Speaker 1: Welcome back. Coming up at the bottom of the hour,
Speaker 1: Van Hiles, Well, look ahead. I talked to Van more
Speaker 1: about Old Miss than I did about the Ohio game.
Speaker 1: Such a blowout, and I'm more interested in Van, as
Speaker 1: a former defensive back, trying to describe what it's going
Speaker 1: to take for the Wildcats to handle this Old Miss offense.
Speaker 1: So that comes up at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1: Maggie Davis at BBN tonight in hour number two, as
Speaker 1: well as our melt of the Ohio U highlights and
Speaker 1: my conversation with Oscar Combs that we had with him
Speaker 1: back earlier this year when he first learned that he
Speaker 1: was being inducted into the Kentucky Sports Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: which happened last night. A couple of notes from campus
Speaker 1: before we really dive into college sports. Big Blue Madness
Speaker 1: coming up on Friday, October eleventh in Rupp Arena at
Speaker 1: seven o'clock tickets presented by Ronald McDonald House Charities at
Speaker 1: the Bluegrass Big Blue Madness that is distributed eclusively online
Speaker 1: at ticketmaster dot Com through the Ticketmaster app starting at
Speaker 1: five o'clock this Friday. So if you want tickets for
Speaker 1: Big Blue Madness this Friday, get on ticketmaster dot com
Speaker 1: or through the Ticketmaster app, and of course it begins
Speaker 1: at seven o'clock. As I said in rupp Arena. Now,
Speaker 1: Monday of that week, on October seven is UK Pro Day.
Speaker 1: You can't get into that, but you can see it.
Speaker 1: We're going to stream it for you on SEC Plus
Speaker 1: Jack Gibbons and I will have that for you. Whatever
Speaker 1: action there is, we'll have that for you. And I'm
Speaker 1: hoping with a lot of interviews from some of the
Speaker 1: people who are there. So it's a big week coming up.
Speaker 1: Not that we're looking past football at all, but that
Speaker 1: second week in October is when things really really crank up.
Speaker 1: And by the way, in case you're wondering, no in
Speaker 1: person ticket distribution because they're still working on the renovation
Speaker 1: of Memorial forgive me. They keep officially calling it Historic
Speaker 1: Memorial Coliseum. But I'm old school, and maybe old school
Speaker 1: I should call it historic, but that that relabeling it's
Speaker 1: going to be hard for me to get used to anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know a lot of you love to camp out
Speaker 1: or love to see the video of people camping out,
Speaker 1: but not this year. You drive down Euclid Avenue and
Speaker 1: you can see there on the Avenue of Champions. There's
Speaker 1: still a lot going on at Memorial Coliseum, so that's big.
Speaker 1: The second week of October is when basketball cranks up.
Speaker 1: And while we're talking Kentucky basketball, a little bit later on,
Speaker 1: Maggie Davis and I will talk about Mark Pope, who
Speaker 1: sat down with Maggie for an interview for BBN tonight.
Speaker 1: But she posted a couple of clips apart from her
Speaker 1: interview with Pope and then a clip from one of
Speaker 1: the Louisville stations where both coaches talk about the rivalry,
Speaker 1: the UKU of l rivalry, and I've kind of spliced
Speaker 1: to get to the back and forth between Mark Pope
Speaker 1: and Pat Kelsey, the new U of BUKA, both guys
Speaker 1: in their first seasons, and they seem to like each
Speaker 1: other and they love the rivalry.
Speaker 2: This rivalry is beautiful and it's and there's no holds barred.
Speaker 2: It's a backyard brawl and it matters, and it matters
Speaker 2: to everybody involved.
Speaker 1: You know, I got.
Speaker 2: Introduced to this rivalry, uh when I first got here
Speaker 2: thirty years ago, and it is as good as it
Speaker 2: gets in the sport of basketball, not just college basketball,
Speaker 2: but at any level, and we're excited about it like
Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's a defining moment in every single
Speaker 2: Kentucky season. It's something we take really seriously and I
Speaker 2: love it.
Speaker 3: It's one of the great rivalries in collegiate sports. It is.
Speaker 3: I know how important it is to the people of
Speaker 3: this town. You know. I've gotten to know Mark a
Speaker 3: little bit, you know, and I can't probably shouldn't say
Speaker 3: it very loud, but try not to like him. But
Speaker 3: it's a pretty good dude.
Speaker 4: I was like, why you got to.
Speaker 3: Be not why you got to be a good dude.
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to like dislike you, you know.
Speaker 2: I think Pat's terrific. I think he's a great coach.
Speaker 2: I think he's doing a great job. He's in use
Speaker 2: so much energy and Louisville and and I have a
Speaker 2: ton of respect for him. I'm incredibly excited to compete
Speaker 2: against him, and and both of us will be at
Speaker 2: a point in a frienzy where we want to rip
Speaker 2: each other's heads off during the game because that's how
Speaker 2: you're supposed to be, and then I'm going to continue
Speaker 2: to like him after the game.
Speaker 3: I'm just excited to be a part of it it is.
Speaker 3: I think rivalries are what makes college sports great. And
Speaker 3: you know, they stop being rivalries if you don't win
Speaker 3: one every once in a while. So let's let's think
Speaker 3: and go.
Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go.
Speaker 2: In athletics, we have a beautiful opportunity to compete harder
Speaker 2: than anybody can possibly imagine that people can compete and
Speaker 2: then to like show mutual respect and love each other
Speaker 2: aside from that. I think that's really important. That's a
Speaker 2: real thing. And we know you talk.
Speaker 1: That's Mark Pope and Pat Kelsey, And it's going to
Speaker 1: be fun when these teams get together because right now
Speaker 1: they're the mystery teams and I can't wait for the
Speaker 1: soundbites that week from both Pope and Kelsey coming up
Speaker 1: a little bit later on, as I said, we'll here
Speaker 1: from Oscar Combs. One of the guys who practiced a
Speaker 1: lot and very well thank you in Memorial Coliseum was
Speaker 1: Tony Delk and he joined Oscar Combs and a couple
Speaker 1: of others last night in Louisville at the Kentucky Sports
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame Induction ceremony. They make the announcement in
Speaker 1: the spring. The induction ceremonies last night at Freedom Hall
Speaker 1: by the Louisville Sports Commission, is a state wide Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. It's not a Louisville deal. That's been kind
Speaker 1: of a mislabeling of this event through the years, and
Speaker 1: I was deeply involved with it for twenty five years.
Speaker 1: But people like to dismiss it as being a Louisville thing,
Speaker 1: but it's not. It's aid. In fact, one night we
Speaker 1: inducted four UK basketball players, four former UK basketball players
Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame at the same time, so
Speaker 1: it's a big deal. And Tony Delk, of course, part
Speaker 1: of the nineteen ninety six NCAA title team, was the
Speaker 1: most outstanding player in the Final four that season. They
Speaker 1: joined Teddy Bridgewater, the great UFL quarterback who recently retired,
Speaker 1: and Roy Pickerel, who was fifty three years with sports
Speaker 1: information at Kentucky Wesley. And Roy is such a great guy,
Speaker 1: and I was delighted to see that he went in.
Speaker 1: I hated that I couldn't go to the ceremony to
Speaker 1: be there for Oscar as we were last year when
Speaker 1: Tom Leach went in, but they scheduled it on a
Speaker 1: Monday night when we have all the state wide radio
Speaker 1: shows The Stoop Show and BBN Radio and of course
Speaker 1: the state wide BBI. So again theough congratulations, and we'll
Speaker 1: hear my conversation with Oscar from back in the spring
Speaker 1: coming up. A little bit later on, I mentioned we're
Speaker 1: going to talk mostly college sports in this segment. Pro
Speaker 1: sports coming up in our next second because the Bengals
Speaker 1: losing one they probably shouldn't have lost. But the news
Speaker 1: right now in college athletics in general, the PAC twelve
Speaker 1: trying to stage a comeback. We talked about that the
Speaker 1: other day, went after Boise State, Fresno State, Colorado State,
Speaker 1: San Diego State from the AAC, but they all said no,
Speaker 1: thank you. Now Utah State has said yes please, so
Speaker 1: they'll leave the Mountain West and join the PAC twelve,
Speaker 1: which gives both of those conference conferences seven members. A
Speaker 1: peace but I would love to know why those schools
Speaker 1: in the AAC turned it down. Perhaps because the new
Speaker 1: PAC twelve doesn't have a new TV deal for the
Speaker 1: current members who won't play together until twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: Mountain West has a deal that expires in twenty months,
Speaker 1: so everybody's looking for a media partner right now. It's
Speaker 1: just all the craziness, and they're trying to split up
Speaker 1: whatever money is left after the SEC network and the
Speaker 1: Big ten network and to an extent, the Big twelve
Speaker 1: network have taken a majority of the money. So it
Speaker 1: always comes back to money. And no longer do they
Speaker 1: care about geographic affiliations. That's just gone for good until
Speaker 1: unless college football breaks off, does its own things and
Speaker 1: lets everybody else go back to what they've been doing
Speaker 1: when they really did think about rivalries and geography and
Speaker 1: not making kids fly back and forth across the country
Speaker 1: every other week. Football Wildcat says, you know, take an
Speaker 1: old miss down in Oxford this week, and they will
Speaker 1: do so with a wide receiver who was the highest
Speaker 1: graded wide receiver in the country if you subscribe to
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus in their way of doing business. Dane
Speaker 1: Key was actually with Dante Thornton Junior of Tennessee. They
Speaker 1: both graded out at ninety one point five to lead
Speaker 1: every wide receiver in Division one football. Isaiah Horton of
Speaker 1: Miami was third, and I don't know that you would
Speaker 1: recognize any of the other name. Miami actually had two
Speaker 1: in the top seven, but Dane Key with career numbers
Speaker 1: for catches and yardage rate of the highest. And you'll
Speaker 1: hear a little bit of my conversation with Dane coming
Speaker 1: up in hour number two. Oh, while we're talking Wildcats,
Speaker 1: we're not going to talk much about this game in
Speaker 1: the next segment when we talk about pro football. But
Speaker 1: Buffalo destroyed Jacksonville forty seven to ten. The Jaguars of course,
Speaker 1: Luke Fordner, who's not starting as I understand it anymore,
Speaker 1: and a josh heinz Allen who is but was not
Speaker 1: much of a factor last night. Buffalo, of course, features
Speaker 1: Ray Davis in his first season since leaving Kentucky. Seven
Speaker 1: carries twenty two yards, and his first touchdown as a
Speaker 1: professional came late in the game. I think it was
Speaker 1: the last touchdown Buffalo scored in this route, and it
Speaker 1: was in Buffalo. By the way. Ray also had a
Speaker 1: one catch for one yard. But I do enjoy seeing
Speaker 1: the reaction of teammates when a guy like Ray, who
Speaker 1: comes off the bench gets a moment like that, gets
Speaker 1: a touchdown, and I root for the Bills because of him.
Speaker 1: I root for the Bills because I'd love to see
Speaker 1: Buffalo finally win a Super Bowl, but I especially root
Speaker 1: for him now because of Ray Davis. How do you
Speaker 1: not root for Ray Davis? What a good dude and
Speaker 1: had a great season A time I started saying career,
Speaker 1: he had a great career. But the one year at UK,
Speaker 1: I know Kentucky fans still talk about it. Coming up next,
Speaker 1: we will expand our conversation on pro football because the
Speaker 1: Bengals let one get away last night, and an NFL
Speaker 1: veteran now voice on ESPN Radio rips the Cincinnati team
Speaker 1: and its quarterback. That's coming up here on six thirty
Speaker 1: WLAP Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider. Coming up next,
Speaker 1: Van Hiles, that's at the bottom of the hour, Maggie
Speaker 1: Davis of BBN tonight and aural number two, as well
Speaker 1: as our melt of the highlights of the Kentucky Ohio
Speaker 1: You game. So if you missed the radio broadcast, we'll
Speaker 1: have the best parts of it coming up. And again
Speaker 1: my conversation from back when Oscar Combs was named to
Speaker 1: the Kentucky Sports Hall of Fame. Inducted last night over
Speaker 1: in Louisville. The Bengals lost last night to a Washington
Speaker 1: Commander's team that looked really good or did the Bengals
Speaker 1: look bad? Well, they made Cam Taylor Britt look bad.
Speaker 1: He of course said this about the Commanders. He's the
Speaker 1: Bengals d back. Said this about the Commander's offense. He said,
Speaker 1: they don't make him. Meeting Jaden Daniels, the rookie quarterback,
Speaker 1: they don't make him do a lot nice college offense
Speaker 1: intermediate stuff. And of course the Commanders after the win,
Speaker 1: they tweet right back at him. Not bad for a
Speaker 1: college offense. Jadon Daniels two hundred and fifty four passing yards,
Speaker 1: two passing touchdowns, and a rushing touchdown, and the Commanders
Speaker 1: win over the Bengals. And Chris Canty, a former d
Speaker 1: lineman in the NFL, now a voice on ESPN Radio.
Speaker 1: He blasted the Bengals and especially particularly Joe Burrow. Also
Speaker 1: Bengals management, but he went after Joe Burrow as well.
Speaker 5: When your quarterback has a chance to go win the game,
Speaker 5: he's gotta win the game. And Joe Burrow didn't do that,
Speaker 5: Jaydon Daniels did. That's the problem that I have the
Speaker 5: Cincinnati Bengals. They have a very very specific formula for
Speaker 5: how they're gonna have to win games. They're gonna have
Speaker 5: to be led by their offense.
Speaker 4: You know how, I know that, how.
Speaker 5: They spend money. The Cincinnati Bengals are top five and
Speaker 5: spend on the offensive side of the ball. Relative to
Speaker 5: the rest of the league. They're twenty second in cash
Speaker 5: spind on defense.
Speaker 4: News flash, the.
Speaker 5: Defense for the Bengals ain't gonna be as good as
Speaker 5: the offense. The offense is what's gonna have to win today.
Speaker 5: Only problem is the Commander's offense with the rookie quarterback
Speaker 5: in his third start, won the damn game. I'm tired
Speaker 5: of all the excuses for Joe Burrow, all the defense,
Speaker 5: let Joe Burrow, no Joe Burrow, Let Joe Burrow down,
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow, let the offense down, Joe Burrow, let the
Speaker 5: team down. Great stats, great stat line. Oh what's amazing
Speaker 5: is at all of these touchdowns, no interceptions, But what
Speaker 5: did you do when the game was in the balance?
Speaker 5: What did you do when the game was on the line.
Speaker 5: You know the answer is it's not enough. You know how,
Speaker 5: I know it's not enough because your team doesn't have
Speaker 5: a win and you're going into Week four. The damn
Speaker 5: Carolina Panthers got a win before the Cincinnati Bengals did.
Speaker 5: Let that sink in.
Speaker 1: Chris Canty's forgotten more football than I'll ever know. But
Speaker 1: it was interesting to me that, first of all, he's
Speaker 1: not wrong about the way the Bengals spend money, But
Speaker 1: you got to spend it on Burrow, you got to
Speaker 1: spend it on Chase. But this being the ultimate team game,
Speaker 1: he laid so much and quarterbacks always get most of
Speaker 1: the blame on Joe Burrow, who threw for more than
Speaker 1: three hundred yards, had three touchdown passes. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what he was referring to down the stretch he did
Speaker 1: misfire Burrow did, but I just wonder what Canty was
Speaker 1: seeing as he saw Burrow basically failing to deliver for
Speaker 1: his team. I think it was a team wide loss,
Speaker 1: no question. But quarterback makes the most money, gets the
Speaker 1: most credit, gets the most blame. Chris Canty not holding
Speaker 1: back on ESPN Radio. Bengals now zero and three and
Speaker 1: will they make the playoffs? Who knows? Jaguars are a mess?
Speaker 1: We mentioned them earlier. Ray Davis with that touchdown. Another
Speaker 1: cool stat for the Bills. Damar Hamlin got his first
Speaker 1: career interception. He's the guy who, of course, the d
Speaker 1: back who recovered from and survived that terrible hit where
Speaker 1: he nearly lost his life in Cincinnati during a game.
Speaker 1: But now the Jaguars, you got to wonder, and the
Speaker 1: questions are coming, how much longer are they going to
Speaker 1: go with Trevor Lawrence? And they pushed all the chips
Speaker 1: to the table, to the middle of the table on him,
Speaker 1: their quarterback of now and forever more. But it's just
Speaker 1: ain't happening right now in Jacksonville. Interesting story out there
Speaker 1: on NFL players who are surveyed believing they have CTE. That,
Speaker 1: of course, is the affliction that a lot of pro
Speaker 1: football and college football players have had that has led
Speaker 1: to early onset of dementia. But one third of former
Speaker 1: pro players reported in a new survey they think they
Speaker 1: have chronic traumatic and sephalopathy or CTE because they feel
Speaker 1: like they're losing it mentally. This comes from the New
Speaker 1: England Journal of Medicine Neurology, and it was a broad
Speaker 1: survey indicating that so many players now are educated about
Speaker 1: CTE and absolutely positively believe they are suffering from it.
Speaker 1: Some are I'm sure not sure what you can do
Speaker 1: about it, but research is ongoing. Coming up next Van
Speaker 1: Hiles former Kentucky defensive back, played briefly in the NFL
Speaker 1: and is a real whiz on social media when it
Speaker 1: comes to breaking down the Wildcats. That's next on six
Speaker 1: thirty WLAP. Joining us on our celebrity highline is one
Speaker 1: of our favorite guests, one of our favorite people period,
Speaker 1: and that's Van Hiless, the former Kentucky defensive back. You
Speaker 1: hear him on Sunday Morning Sports Talk, you hear him
Speaker 1: Monday Morning Quarterback with Tom Leach, and occasionally here on
Speaker 1: The Big Blue Insider. How was your weekend, sir? Not
Speaker 1: too bad with the way the Wildcats prevailed?
Speaker 6: I guess, yeah, it was a good weekend. Nice get
Speaker 6: that game out the way, so then you have the
Speaker 6: rest of the day to watch other people complain and
Speaker 6: get mad at their their team and players and coaches.
Speaker 6: So it's always nice to get that early start.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and there are people are kind of
Speaker 1: complaining about this week it's an eleven am start, well
Speaker 1: Central time, but you know their bodies will be it'll
Speaker 1: be a noon start. But I got to think, as
Speaker 1: a player, did you like to get up and get
Speaker 1: at them?
Speaker 6: Now, as a player, I actually like the night game,
Speaker 6: so I can see yes, I can see everybody else playing. Oh.
Speaker 6: As a player, the night game was definitely better. As
Speaker 6: a fan, the first game is definitely better in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you didn't mind laying around the hotel or
Speaker 1: wherever you killed time.
Speaker 6: No, for me, unlike some others, probably it was it
Speaker 6: was time for me to do homework, so I got mine.
Speaker 6: I got a little advantage of watching some film and
Speaker 6: then getting some homework done before a game, so I
Speaker 6: wouldn't be late. You know, after game, you're not gonna
Speaker 6: get anything done, so I got mine at them before
Speaker 6: the game.
Speaker 1: See future Engineers of America. You need before I talk
Speaker 1: about the Wildcats. Last night Bengals commanders and Jayden Daniels
Speaker 1: was giving the Bengals fit. The kid rookie out of LSU.
Speaker 1: You're a Louisiana kid who played in the SEC for Kentucky, obviously,
Speaker 1: but since you went back home to Louisiana, do you
Speaker 1: root for LSU? Did you root for this guy?
Speaker 6: I rooted for that guy. I do not like LSU
Speaker 6: at all, not even a little bit so, but I
Speaker 6: like what he showed me at Arizona State, and I'm
Speaker 6: like when I when I saw they make the pick
Speaker 6: if that kid can adapt to Brian Kelly's offense. I
Speaker 6: knew he was going to be great because he's going
Speaker 6: to be playing with great talent around him. Yes, and
Speaker 6: when you have neighbors and the guys on that team
Speaker 6: from last year, you cannot help but be successful if
Speaker 6: you are. He went through adversity, and if you was
Speaker 6: able to get that adversity, it's going to make this
Speaker 6: transition easy for him because of the talent around him.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I had every I didn't know he was
Speaker 6: going to be just good, but I knew it was
Speaker 6: gonna be good.
Speaker 1: He was my choice to win the Heisman because as
Speaker 1: college QBS went, I thought he was the best one
Speaker 1: and probably the best player. If I had to vote,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't van. I wouldn't always vote for a quarterback
Speaker 1: or a guy with offensive said I make an excuse
Speaker 1: to vote for defensive guys, but I think this guy
Speaker 1: was so dynamic. But part of that was because of
Speaker 1: the way he ran the ball, and I wondered would
Speaker 1: he be able to really make that translate to the NFL.
Speaker 1: So far, he has, but we've seen that become a
Speaker 1: disaster for other quarterbacks such as Robert Griffin ID who
Speaker 1: was dynamic but didn't know how to slide. That cost
Speaker 1: him his career. But man, this guy is the real deal, isn't.
Speaker 6: He He's the real deal. He has the This is
Speaker 6: when I know it is a real deal because everybody
Speaker 6: in college or is athletic. There is no quarterback on
Speaker 6: all these teams, and all fives are not great accents.
Speaker 6: When he came to LSU and got the room early,
Speaker 6: kind of like how Will Levis came here and got
Speaker 6: the room early. When you can command a room without
Speaker 6: forcing on someone and players that gravitate to you, that
Speaker 6: takes you so far. So when you get into the
Speaker 6: NFL with grown men, because some of these guys are
Speaker 6: thirty plus years old, if they are able to buy
Speaker 6: into you as a quarterback, that's everything, regardless of how
Speaker 6: you play, which is the most important thing. But you
Speaker 6: also got to get the room first. And when he
Speaker 6: came to LSU and he got that room, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 6: this kid is special.
Speaker 1: Well, Rob Vandergreve seems to have won the room from
Speaker 1: everything we've heard at Kentucky and I interviewed Dane Key
Speaker 1: after the game course he had a career day literally,
Speaker 1: and he talked about being on the same page and
Speaker 1: working with his quarterback. So do you like what you've
Speaker 1: seen from Vandergrive.
Speaker 6: It's getting there, and it's to be expected. When you
Speaker 6: haven't played, when you haven't started game since the senior
Speaker 6: year in high school and you've been in college three years,
Speaker 6: it's going to be a transition period. I don't think
Speaker 6: his transition period is as bad as some others would say.
Speaker 6: I think it's to be expected. And this game is
Speaker 6: going to grow, the same way will Let his game
Speaker 6: grew in twenty twenty one, the same way Terry Wilson
Speaker 6: game grew when he came here in twenty eighteen. You
Speaker 6: can't expect the world all of these guys the first
Speaker 6: couple of games. Unfortunately for Prop, his second and third
Speaker 6: game was against two of the best defenses in the SEC.
Speaker 6: That's just the unfortunate nature that happened to him with
Speaker 6: the scheduling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I knew he knew what he was getting into.
Speaker 1: He had played as obviously for Georgia. He had prepared
Speaker 1: for South Carolina as a backup. But until you're out
Speaker 1: there in the bullets are flying, as they say, you
Speaker 1: just don't know, do you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you have no idea, and this offensive line isn't
Speaker 6: as good as what George's offensive line was, So that's
Speaker 6: another thing you got take into consideration. There's a whole
Speaker 6: lot of different moving parts, let alone that you have
Speaker 6: to run a new offense from a new OC who's
Speaker 6: a new OC for the whole team. So no one
Speaker 6: has any information for you that can help you study,
Speaker 6: help you smooth off the transition, because everybody has the
Speaker 6: same transition. So that's that's just difficult on him and everyone,
Speaker 6: but definitely on the quarterback. When you are the man
Speaker 6: in the room and you are not totally comfortable with
Speaker 6: the offense, it can cause some issues.
Speaker 1: So you like what you've seen from him so far.
Speaker 6: If you take away the South Carolina game, I liked
Speaker 6: a lot of what I've seen. There's the South Carolina
Speaker 6: game of fluke or is that kind of where the
Speaker 6: norm is? I don't know. These other three games. I
Speaker 6: really like what I've seen, but that South Carolina game
Speaker 6: is still in the back of my mind. We need
Speaker 6: to get a few games far away from that to say, Okay,
Speaker 6: that was just a fluke. I think it was a fluke,
Speaker 6: but I need more information and more data is okay, Yeah,
Speaker 6: that's definitely a fluke.
Speaker 1: Well, they just weren't ready emotionally, their focus was not there.
Speaker 1: So it was a lot like a bad horse raising
Speaker 1: and you can throw it out. But losing a game
Speaker 1: like that at home you're expected to win. Now, how
Speaker 1: do you make that? You know, make up for that?
Speaker 1: Tough to do in then.
Speaker 6: SEC isn't it make you make up for it this week?
Speaker 6: This is a road game that probably not a lot
Speaker 6: of people are expecting you to win. They what like
Speaker 6: a sixteen seventeen eighteen point on the underdog already, So
Speaker 6: this is a game where you can steal a game
Speaker 6: to get you back to where you should be. So
Speaker 6: this is the week to prepare. If they prepare like
Speaker 6: they prepared, and focus and disciplinets and fundamentals and sound
Speaker 6: and all those good cliche like they did at Georgia,
Speaker 6: I feel good about this old miss game. If they
Speaker 6: come like that, if they play like they play two
Speaker 6: weeks ago, I feel good about it.
Speaker 1: Well, that brings me to my biggest question. If you
Speaker 1: had a chance, not that you're any smarter than Brad White,
Speaker 1: but as a guy who played defensive back, at the
Speaker 1: highest level with this jail break offense, what would you
Speaker 1: say to Kentucky defensive backs. You got to assume they're
Speaker 1: going to prepare as best they can. But once once
Speaker 1: the game begins for real, what's the best advice you
Speaker 1: can give them, because they're going to be really tested.
Speaker 6: For me as a DC is I'm simplifying because I
Speaker 6: don't have the luxury to match personnel with what they
Speaker 6: are doing. Maybe I see everything that you don't have
Speaker 6: that uh, that ability the match personnel with down the
Speaker 6: distance and all that good stuff. Simplify. Then the guys
Speaker 6: have to trust their themselves and they're stinks in their abilities.
Speaker 6: That's all. It's a confidence thing when you play in
Speaker 6: this conference. If you're not confident, it will get exposed.
Speaker 6: So you've got to play confidently, not afraid to get beat, deep,
Speaker 6: not afraid to get beat. Because those guys on scholarship too,
Speaker 6: they're gonna catch balls. So if they catch it all,
Speaker 6: it's no big deal. Just don't give up the big play.
Speaker 6: That's really it. Make them keep snapping the ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, how did that manifest this?
Speaker 1: So playing with confidence against this offense.
Speaker 6: So for me, It's like you have studied all you
Speaker 6: can study. You see things before the snap. Okay, they
Speaker 6: come out of a certain formation, this is what they're
Speaker 6: probably gonna run. That's the confidence when you're not when
Speaker 6: you're not able to, as I would say, eliminate routes
Speaker 6: before snap. Now you're just guessing. But if I can
Speaker 6: eliminate half the routes that they can run out this formation,
Speaker 6: now I can anticipate. Anticipate It is a totally different
Speaker 6: thing from guessing, because now I have an idea of
Speaker 6: what they might run, and now I can jump on
Speaker 6: that when they run it. The guys have to get
Speaker 6: in the film room, have to get into a game plan,
Speaker 6: have to know what have an idea of what they're
Speaker 6: going to do before they snap.
Speaker 1: You also can't just let Jackson Dark sit back there
Speaker 1: and pick and choose. I mean, they've got to get
Speaker 1: help up front, don't they.
Speaker 6: Yes, you have to play a little bit of both.
Speaker 6: You have there sometimes where you can confuse a quarterback.
Speaker 6: You can't rely on that all the time, but there
Speaker 6: are instances where you can simulate the blitz and drop out.
Speaker 6: But then there's sometime you're gonna asimilate the blitz and
Speaker 6: actually come, So you have to mix it up. You
Speaker 6: can't blitz all the time because then he's gonna get
Speaker 6: It's like someone pitching fastball, fastball, fastball. Eventually he's gonna
Speaker 6: time it up. They's the same thing. You can't blitz
Speaker 6: all the time. You got to mix it up. And
Speaker 6: Brad White does a great job of that anyway, So
Speaker 6: I don't know if that's an issue. Now his guys
Speaker 6: just have to execute.
Speaker 1: That was my next question. What do you think of
Speaker 1: the way Brad White picks and chooses when it's time
Speaker 1: to blitz, because obviously we've talked about this before. You'd
Speaker 1: love to be able to get to the quarterback without blitzing,
Speaker 1: which sometimes you got to come right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you look as a I can speak at it
Speaker 6: from a corner. Is I don't want to play man
Speaker 6: a man all day every day. It's taxing because I
Speaker 6: don't think fans understand that dbs don't come off the field.
Speaker 6: They're not like receivers run a go route and then
Speaker 6: they tap themselves out and then the nerve receiver comes in
Speaker 6: a corner stays on the field. So therefore, if you're
Speaker 6: gonna put me in a man the man situation eighty
Speaker 6: percent of the game. I better be in the best
Speaker 6: shape of my life to even command that. Then it
Speaker 6: doesn't matter how good is ship I am. A fresh
Speaker 6: receiver is coming in every other play. So when you
Speaker 6: mix it up, you allow a corner to mix up
Speaker 6: his his techniques and his advantages to possly bet a
Speaker 6: guy into a trap coverage or or rest on the
Speaker 6: play because he just ran a nine route like those
Speaker 6: Those things are important for decent cordina to understand. Are
Speaker 6: your corners tired and I just run an hour route?
Speaker 6: Or we might need to run a different coverage than this.
Speaker 1: They didn't I assume in nine routes of deep ball.
Speaker 6: Yes, I'm sorry. Now, as a goal, it's a fly.
Speaker 6: The old terminology is gotcha.
Speaker 1: Well I'm old, so yeah, you need to run. Van
Speaker 1: Hiles is my guest when we're Kentucky defensive back. We'll
Speaker 1: come back and talk more Kentucky football with v Styles
Speaker 1: on the other side of the break here on the
Speaker 1: Big Moon Sider six thirty WLAP Welcome back for talking
Speaker 1: football with Van Hies. We love talking football with Van
Speaker 1: because he teaches us things. He's a very good coach.
Speaker 1: Whether it's in person or on the radio. And as
Speaker 1: I said earlier, you heard him on Sunday morning Sports Talk,
Speaker 1: you heard him with Tom Leech, you see him or
Speaker 1: on the internet. But you also know him as the
Speaker 1: co host of The Locker four to one one, the
Speaker 1: host of Driving with Styles. And we're talking the course
Speaker 1: about Kentucky and Ole Miss and I keep looking back
Speaker 1: van at the game two years ago when everything seemed
Speaker 1: to go long for Kentucky, but they somehow hung close
Speaker 1: until the second half, and you know, Will Levis got hurt,
Speaker 1: and you know, everything was and then in the second
Speaker 1: half they somehow turned things around, drove for the winning touchdown,
Speaker 1: but there was a flag on the play, and you
Speaker 1: know the rest. But what impressed me the most was
Speaker 1: that was a tremendous crowd and they're expecting another one
Speaker 1: on Saturday. They had a great one last week with
Speaker 1: Georgia Southern coming to Oxford. But the fact that Kentucky
Speaker 1: was able to really prevail in the second half in
Speaker 1: spite of that was huge. How do you do that?
Speaker 1: What advice would you give Kentucky for you know, the
Speaker 1: young guys who haven't really been on the road much.
Speaker 1: How would they deal with it.
Speaker 6: It's all comes from leadership, the guys who have been there,
Speaker 6: and they can tell them that we were appenalty away
Speaker 6: from stealing a game from them. Yeah, this defense has
Speaker 6: that experience to do the same thing. I would say
Speaker 6: this defense is probably than that defense on paper. So
Speaker 6: this defense has the ability to limit ole Miss to
Speaker 6: twenty twenty one point seventeen twenty one point. I think
Speaker 6: if we can limit them to that, I think we
Speaker 6: have a really good chance of winning this game. If
Speaker 6: they score in the thirties, I don't feel so confident,
Speaker 6: But if we can do what we did last year
Speaker 6: I think they scored twenty two to twenty one points,
Speaker 6: I feel very confident that this game will will come
Speaker 6: down kind of like what it did a couple years ago,
Speaker 6: come down to the team with the last possession with
Speaker 6: it was a chance to win the game. And I
Speaker 6: think this defense has a chance to make plays on
Speaker 6: an offense that has not played a defense this tough yet,
Speaker 6: and that could be to our advantages. They haven't played
Speaker 6: someone this tough, and that defense has not played a
Speaker 6: team who can just run it down their throat consistently
Speaker 6: like we have. So they got a little rude awakening
Speaker 6: for them themselves too, because are they ready to face
Speaker 6: this team. Yes, they're going to prepare and all that stuff,
Speaker 6: but it's nothing like when someone punch in the mouth
Speaker 6: the first time. So that's be interesting to see how
Speaker 6: they adjust.
Speaker 1: If not for those two breakdowns communications breakdowns against South Carolina,
Speaker 1: I think across the board, Kentucky's defensive performances all year
Speaker 1: have been pretty solid. I mean, we know that everything
Speaker 1: else went wrong against SC but and after watching South
Speaker 1: Carolina LSU, I'm even more impressed with Kentucky's defensive effort
Speaker 1: against South Carolina. Like I said, they just had a
Speaker 1: couple and you broke them down on your video splits
Speaker 1: that that wasn't anything to sneeze at, was it.
Speaker 6: Oh? And that's the thing about this team and this defense.
Speaker 6: If they handle their alignment and our assignment. The most
Speaker 6: important thing with defense, there's knowing where you're supposed to
Speaker 6: line up and knowing what your assignment is. If you
Speaker 6: can do that consistently, you will be a great defense.
Speaker 6: And on that day a fourth were still talking about
Speaker 6: it is that we didn't know our assignment perfectly. We
Speaker 6: kind of knew what we're supposed to do or what
Speaker 6: if they do something that. Here's the thing about coaching.
Speaker 6: I can't coach you to every situation. Sometimes you have
Speaker 6: to know the principles and the concepts and the procedures
Speaker 6: that will help you eliminate you having a blown coverage
Speaker 6: because you were just following the connected dots. They didn't
Speaker 6: do that on two or three play. I mean it's
Speaker 6: the same route that they ran like three times. We
Speaker 6: never were able to adjust to it as a player
Speaker 6: for whatever reason that was. And unfortunately it happened in
Speaker 6: a very important game, second game of the season, and
Speaker 6: that game is gonna come to haunt us for the
Speaker 6: rest of the season. I promise you this second game
Speaker 6: is going to come back to hunt us for a
Speaker 6: long time. It's going to leave us ault tasting these
Speaker 6: senior's mouth. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more unless they can just pull off
Speaker 1: an upset that it rases that somehow, but that's so
Speaker 1: hard to do in the sec Obviously, a few minutes
Speaker 1: love with Van Hiles. You know this, This Kentucky defense
Speaker 1: has got tools up front. They've got Maxwell Harrison a
Speaker 1: pick sick. You had to love that. I know the
Speaker 1: other day. But I fear for or wonder about the
Speaker 1: cornerback on the opposite side of the fields from Harriston.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Yep, Yeah, he's gonna probably get picked on more than that.
Speaker 6: But the great thing about the way we play is
Speaker 6: that with that front seven, you have to trust that.
Speaker 6: As a corner, you have to trust that they're going
Speaker 6: to get to the quarterback. They might not sack them,
Speaker 6: but he's not gonna be able to sit there back
Speaker 6: there and just pack the ball with no one at
Speaker 6: his feet. So as a corner, you have to trust
Speaker 6: your technique and say, he's not gonna beat me deep
Speaker 6: because I got guys, those fronts are gonna get to
Speaker 6: him eventually, Webb, it's not gonna hold the ball for
Speaker 6: five seconds. So have that confidence, have that ability to
Speaker 6: also use the ruse to the advantage. In college, and
Speaker 6: you can you can hit a chuck the receiver anywhere
Speaker 6: down the field if you're in position. You just bump
Speaker 6: them and jam them and then go and release. I
Speaker 6: don't know if a lot of guys do that anymore,
Speaker 6: but that's the only way after box because the rule
Speaker 6: is there's no fireyard truck route, if you keep your
Speaker 6: shoulder square and have confidence in the front foor to
Speaker 6: front seven, you can keep your shoes the square and
Speaker 6: then press and then bump the receiver on the top
Speaker 6: of this route and prevent a deep route all the time.
Speaker 6: I got to have that confidence.
Speaker 1: Well before I let you go, let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: If you or we've talked a lot about grilling and
Speaker 1: cooking and things like that. If you are I don't
Speaker 1: know how much you get to tailgate because you you
Speaker 1: coach now, and I don't know how many college games
Speaker 1: you want to go to. But if you were going
Speaker 1: to prepare a tailgate like a big spread, what would
Speaker 1: you or what have you prepared? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 6: How much time do I have? I'm not coaching because.
Speaker 1: You're a fan.
Speaker 6: I'm a fan. Yeah, I am a humongous brisket guy.
Speaker 6: So I'm going Brisket to the hill, brisket, tacos, brisky
Speaker 6: take case of Dias, brisket sliders, brisket nachos. That's my
Speaker 6: angle to go to. That's my go to. I'm definitely
Speaker 6: doing brisket, and I might add a Louisiana flair, maybe
Speaker 6: have some gumbo or maybe if I have time, I
Speaker 6: can do some shrimp and grits. So that was an
Speaker 6: afternoon game. You maybe do the shrimp and grits for
Speaker 6: the ten o'clock nine o'clock crowd, So that would probably
Speaker 6: be Those are my three. Those are things I would
Speaker 6: think about.
Speaker 1: You read my mind because I was going to ask you.
Speaker 1: I knew that you were gonna have grits in the summer.
Speaker 1: I happen to like grits. What is the secret? I
Speaker 1: know we don't have all night or all day, but
Speaker 1: what is the secret to making those grits really stand out?
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, use a little half and half
Speaker 6: with your are depends on how you like. You can
Speaker 6: go half and half like half water, half half and half,
Speaker 6: whatever you normally do. And you have to cook them.
Speaker 6: I my wife, excuse me. I cooked my grits for
Speaker 6: over an hour, probably ah an hour and fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, little stuff for you, right, No.
Speaker 6: No instant come on, no, no instant grits. No, So
Speaker 6: you have to cook it that long to take out
Speaker 6: that greediness. Once you cook it about an hour, I
Speaker 6: probably go another fifteen or thirty. It takes a long time,
Speaker 6: but it's smooth and it's not gritty.
Speaker 1: And see, I think that's what people don't like about
Speaker 1: grits is the consistency, the texture, you know, and which
Speaker 1: I can understand if they're gritty, and I'm good. I
Speaker 1: can take them if they're gritty. But man, when you've
Speaker 1: had them properly prepared, there's no going back, is there?
Speaker 6: Yeah? You you? And the most important part about the
Speaker 6: grits when you're cooking them, it's probably the first minute
Speaker 6: you have to consistently stir it or whisk it. I
Speaker 6: whisked out of stirred, you whisk it. But once it
Speaker 6: gets to that where it kind of thickens, then you
Speaker 6: just let it cook. Add some butter, and add some
Speaker 6: salt and peppers the well you want. I'm a big
Speaker 6: cheese grit guy. I gotta add tons of tons of cheese.
Speaker 6: So once it thickens up, then you can just let
Speaker 6: it cook.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm hungry.
Speaker 6: I'm always hungry.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you are. Yeah. But uh. And and one last,
Speaker 1: when you're talking shrimp, are you going jumbo or you're
Speaker 1: going a certain kind or it doesn't matter.
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna grill them anyway. I'm not the biggest
Speaker 6: shrimp guy. But but the sauce that's made from the
Speaker 6: shrimp is way more important than the shrimp in mine
Speaker 6: in my opinion. The srimp and grits. Yeah, I can
Speaker 6: deal with shrimp. But I'm more of a crawfish.
Speaker 1: Guy, gotcha understood, And I like I like some crawfish
Speaker 1: now and then. We just don't get many opportunit unities
Speaker 1: up north here, as you know, when you were living
Speaker 1: up here, were you're just craving food from back home
Speaker 1: all the time.
Speaker 6: A little bit. But I was able to cook anyway.
Speaker 6: And so I will cook on Sunday and last me
Speaker 6: the whole week, I'll cook. I'll eat the same thing
Speaker 6: all Ready's a riot to jump a live I just
Speaker 6: eat it a whole week. Just took it, once picked
Speaker 6: a big ol'd pot.
Speaker 1: You had it nailed, Van Heiles. You can always hear
Speaker 1: him on Sunday Morning Sports Talk with Anthony White and
Speaker 1: the Gang. You can also hear him on Monday Mornings
Speaker 1: with Tom Leach, check him out on the Locker four
Speaker 1: one one and host of Driving with Styles. Thank you, brother,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you again soon anytime. Up next.
Speaker 1: Maggie Davis of BBN tonight, and we'll revisit our conversation
Speaker 1: with Oscar Combs, inducted last night into the Kentucky Sports
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Plus we'll relive the highlights of Kentucky's
Speaker 1: went over. Ohiou that's all I had here on the
Speaker 1: Big Boon Sider six thirty WLA Welcome back to the
Speaker 1: Big Boone Sider. Joining us now in our celebrity hotline
Speaker 1: is Maggie Davis a BB and Tonight. We love talking
Speaker 1: UK sports with Maggie. I'm going to get to football
Speaker 1: in a minute, but of course this is overlap period
Speaker 1: and you all are hard at work for BB and
Speaker 1: Tonight on everything on campus. Well, you had a chance
Speaker 1: to sit down with Mark Pope. Evidently they still haven't
Speaker 1: gotten to all the requests for interviews since Mark got here,
Speaker 1: but you guys, of course had a chance to sit
Speaker 1: down and chat with him. What was your I don't
Speaker 1: want to say best, but maybe favorite takeaway from that interview?
Speaker 7: Well one, I think. Yes, he has been doing a
Speaker 7: million things since the second he got here, so it's
Speaker 7: definitely been interesting to watch him get acclimated to life
Speaker 7: just being the Kentucky Bens basketball coach. I'm obviously grateful
Speaker 7: for his time sit down with us last week. Talked
Speaker 7: a little bit about the Blue White preseason event that
Speaker 7: is coming up. I know tickets have already gone on
Speaker 7: sale and the people around UK and the people around
Speaker 7: Club Blue are so excited for that event. So obviously
Speaker 7: I was happy to sit down and talk with him
Speaker 7: a little bit about that. But to me, it's just
Speaker 7: so interesting to have a couple of minutes. You know
Speaker 7: how it goes Dick When you sit down, You're waiting
Speaker 7: for the interview to start. You've got the mics plugged in,
Speaker 7: he's getting miked up, figuring it all out, waiting for
Speaker 7: it to start. And then afterwards you have a minute
Speaker 7: or two to chat before you leave, and obviously you're
Speaker 7: sort of on the whole time. But it's interesting to
Speaker 7: see how he is in those moments because he's so nice,
Speaker 7: he's so personable, he's so outgoing, he's so excited and
Speaker 7: thankful to be here. He's ready to engage with the fans,
Speaker 7: right he wants to pump you up and get excited,
Speaker 7: and you kind of are waiting for this letdown and
Speaker 7: it's just not coming right Like before the interview starts,
Speaker 7: that's how he is. After the interview's over, that's how
Speaker 7: he is. And I don't know if you would mind
Speaker 7: me sharing this or not, but we sat in these
Speaker 7: really tall chairs at one point for a different interview
Speaker 7: earlier in the week that'll be coming up on our
Speaker 7: show a little bit closer to basketball season. And you know,
Speaker 7: he's getting ready to move on. Like we said, he
Speaker 7: had a full line of inner. He was ready to go, right,
Speaker 7: and he's moving down down the aisle toward the next one,
Speaker 7: and I just sort of asked, you know, someone with
Speaker 7: uk oh, where did these chairs go? I'll carry them back?
Speaker 7: And they went all the way around the other corner
Speaker 7: of the courts. And he goes, oh, come on, I'll
Speaker 7: help you teamwork. And he picks up a chair and
Speaker 7: carries it all the way over. And it sounds like
Speaker 7: such a little thing, right, but that is not something
Speaker 7: that you have to do in the position that he's in.
Speaker 7: And I just think it says a lot about Mark
Speaker 7: Pope the person. And pretty soon we're going to start
Speaker 7: seeing a lot more of Mark Pope the coach. And
Speaker 7: I'm excited for that too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And you know what's cool is when you
Speaker 1: when you sit down and talk to him about anything
Speaker 1: involving UK basketball. It's so interesting. And Joe b was
Speaker 1: a little bit like this, but you know, of course,
Speaker 1: his time with UK as a player dated back to
Speaker 1: the forties and fifties. I can't remember exactly when. But
Speaker 1: Mark has lived it, you know, within the last twenty years,
Speaker 1: or he's been through a Blue White game. He knows,
Speaker 1: you know how crazy the Big Blue Nation is just
Speaker 1: for that event, much less an intersquad game or a
Speaker 1: real game, you know.
Speaker 7: Or a rivalry game. Right because I had the chance
Speaker 7: to ask him about the UK U of L series
Speaker 7: as well. Obviously, Pat Kelsey was asked about that a
Speaker 7: little bit earlier in the week two and he said
Speaker 7: very nice things about Pope.
Speaker 1: And these two.
Speaker 7: Guys are seemingly buddy buddy right now. But I love
Speaker 7: that they both acknowledge that when day day rolls around,
Speaker 7: they're going to want to beat each other, you know,
Speaker 7: the heck out of each other, because that's what a
Speaker 7: rivalry should be. And it goes back to your point
Speaker 7: of Mark Pope has lived that. He said something to
Speaker 7: me along those lines of, you know, I got introduced
Speaker 7: to this rivalry thirty years ago, and it's just as
Speaker 7: intense now as it was then. And obviously that's a
Speaker 7: pinnacle of every college basketball season, not just for UK
Speaker 7: fans and mobile fans, but just sort of the greater
Speaker 7: college basketball fan in general. And I think this year
Speaker 7: is going to be extra exciting with two new coaches
Speaker 7: and full new rosters and just all of the changes
Speaker 7: that have happened really to both programs over the last
Speaker 7: year or so, and the excitement around that game in
Speaker 7: particular is going to be I think a little different
Speaker 7: than it has been even in recent years, even though
Speaker 7: it is always a headscape.
Speaker 1: Talking to Maggie Davis of BBN tonight, you had a
Speaker 1: chance to sit down with Mark Pope and you talked
Speaker 1: to a lot of the players as well. I know
Speaker 1: they're practicing up at six point thirty in the morning.
Speaker 1: Everybody across the country is probably practicing early in the morning.
Speaker 1: But you know what, I've been talking to some people
Speaker 1: of late Maggie about what to expect from this Kentucky team,
Speaker 1: and at least when in media members and some fans,
Speaker 1: they're not expecting a whole heck of a lot. I
Speaker 1: guess it's just because this is just a brand new
Speaker 1: roster and really a unique process for Kentucky basketball. But
Speaker 1: they're looking further down the road. I don't know about you,
Speaker 1: but I've got a feeling this team might win more
Speaker 1: games than people think. Have you gotten any feeling like that?
Speaker 7: I have gotten that to an extent, and I think,
Speaker 7: you know, especially this point in the year, I really
Speaker 7: love and respect at BBN is trying so hard to
Speaker 7: be like cool, calming, rational, and oh, we're just you know,
Speaker 7: let's get to the second weekend, or let's make it
Speaker 7: two or three games in the SEC tournament down in Nashville.
Speaker 7: And I think all of that will be a welcome
Speaker 7: change because that just has to happen the last couple
Speaker 7: of years. But I think that first real game, when
Speaker 7: it's Kentucky versus Duke, all of that changes. All of
Speaker 7: that is over rational goes out the window, and all
Speaker 7: of a sudden, it is we want to win by
Speaker 7: twenty five, maybe thirty, and if not, we're going to
Speaker 7: be upset. And there's nothing wrong with that, especially when
Speaker 7: it's Wildcats and Blue Devils that that's going to be
Speaker 7: a game with a lot of excitement and energy around
Speaker 7: it too. Like Obviously Duke doesn't have quite the same
Speaker 7: newness as Kentucky does this season, but they do have
Speaker 7: one of the best players in America. John Shire is
Speaker 7: so relatively new there. So I think just that first
Speaker 7: edition of Kentucky Duke with Mark Pope at the Helm,
Speaker 7: it's going to be a really interesting one. And the
Speaker 7: fact that it comes so early in the season, I
Speaker 7: think going into that game, people are going to try
Speaker 7: and temper expectations like these teams are not a finished
Speaker 7: product in November, right. I mean we've had these conversations
Speaker 7: a lot with Mark Stoops even not to switch sports
Speaker 7: on you, but over the past couple of weeks of life,
Speaker 7: we're not who we're going to be in week two, right.
Speaker 7: We have a lot of changes that can still come.
Speaker 7: We have a lot we can still get better at.
Speaker 7: It is a long season, and I think the same
Speaker 7: can be said in that lead up to the Kentucky
Speaker 7: Duke game. But once of all tips off, I think
Speaker 7: ye expectations certainly changed, right.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, The tone, the tenor the texture, all
Speaker 1: of it changes, especially if Kentucky ends up on the
Speaker 1: wrong side of the scoreboard. And I'm s your post
Speaker 1: about Pat Kelsey and I remember when Patino got here
Speaker 1: and he spoke glowingly of Denny Krum. He had so
Speaker 1: much respect. Here's a guy who's won two national titles,
Speaker 1: and Patino kind of dismissed, at least to me attitudeally,
Speaker 1: the uk U of L series is something that was
Speaker 1: quaint but not nearly as important as Nick Celtics or
Speaker 1: something he was involved in. And he found out very
Speaker 1: quickly that that's not the case. Plus Maggie, when he
Speaker 1: lost a recruit to U of L, that's when things changed.
Speaker 1: So you do wonder about that because you know these
Speaker 1: two guys probably at times will knock heads over the
Speaker 1: same recruit. So that changed in my opinion, that changes everything.
Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely, And as time goes on. I mean, I
Speaker 7: think they're absolutely saying and doing all the right things
Speaker 7: right now, but things can change. I mean, in general,
Speaker 7: a coach of these two programs has been at the
Speaker 7: Helm for five to ten years, right. It was a
Speaker 7: little different at Louisville with the Kenny Brooks era and
Speaker 7: everything or Kenny Brooks chief elis where is my head
Speaker 7: talking about women's basketball now? But anyway, it just was
Speaker 7: a little bit different with the Caine era, I should say,
Speaker 7: and that's obviously changed a little quicker the most, but
Speaker 7: in general, coaches stay with these two programs for a
Speaker 7: longer period of time, so it's going to be interesting
Speaker 7: to see how the relationship changes, maybe not this year,
Speaker 7: but really in the next five years. Right like that
Speaker 7: could be a realistic timeline for how these two coaches
Speaker 7: changed twelves over the course of their careers.
Speaker 1: Maggie Davis, my guess. You see her work Monday through
Speaker 1: Friday alongside Keith Farmer on BBN Tonight. Don't forget BBN
Speaker 1: Game Day on Saturdays, and we'll come back and talk
Speaker 1: football with Maggie on the other side of the break
Speaker 1: here on six thirty WLAPL Well, come back, We're talking
Speaker 1: with Maggie Davis of bb and tonight BBN Game Day.
Speaker 1: Before I ask you about the Wildcats. Well, a former Wildcat,
Speaker 1: Ray Davis, got his first NFL touchdown last night. That
Speaker 1: was kind of fun, wasn't it.
Speaker 7: It was so fun. I'm so happy for Ray. He's
Speaker 7: one of the best guys to come to this program
Speaker 7: in recent years, and I just love how much he
Speaker 7: still loves UK and how much he loved coming back
Speaker 7: to visit. He was at a game I already wan
Speaker 7: this year, and who knows, he could be back for
Speaker 7: another one, just depending on how the NFL schedule plays out.
Speaker 7: But so cool to see him get a little shine
Speaker 7: in an NFL game last night. Obviously it's the big blowout,
Speaker 7: not a super close score by the time that that happened,
Speaker 7: but regardless, he gets to say, hey, I scored a
Speaker 7: touchdown in a professional football game, and he can have
Speaker 7: that forever, hopefully just the first of many though.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And the best part to me was the
Speaker 1: reaction on the sideline when the cameras found Josh Allen
Speaker 1: and his teammates. And that's always the case when backups
Speaker 1: throwing a three pointer or score a touchdown or whatever.
Speaker 1: You love seeing that, don't you.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 7: And I think it also says a lot about the
Speaker 7: kind of relationship he can have with some of his teammates, right,
Speaker 7: I mean, you don't know unless you're on that team,
Speaker 7: you're in that locker, or whatever the.
Speaker 6: Case may be.
Speaker 7: But to see his teammates celebrate him like that, I
Speaker 7: think really says a lot about the kind of role
Speaker 7: he has on this team. And maybe despite the fact
Speaker 7: that no he's not a starter. He is well respected
Speaker 7: and people are excited for him to have that moment.
Speaker 7: I think was really cool.
Speaker 1: Let's talk now about Kentucky and Ole miss And have
Speaker 1: you ever been down there? Have you ever been to
Speaker 1: the grove? Did you go down last time?
Speaker 7: No, I've never been. I was really hoping it was
Speaker 7: going to work out this time, but just not in
Speaker 7: the parts for me. We are sending somebody. We're sending
Speaker 7: Sierra Newton, who will do a fantastic job. So I'm
Speaker 7: excited to see her coverage. But nope, I have not
Speaker 7: been down there, but I've heard it's a great time.
Speaker 7: I know fans are a little bombed by another morning
Speaker 7: kickoff eleven am local time down there in Central Time Land.
Speaker 7: But either way, I'm pretty sure the fans are going
Speaker 7: to make the most of it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, you know, they'll just have to get
Speaker 1: up earlier with their chandeliers and chafing dishes in the group.
Speaker 7: I always hear about the chandeliers.
Speaker 1: True, It's all true. And I the first time I
Speaker 1: ever went there. We went through the grove and it
Speaker 1: was nice. People at tables set up and tents and
Speaker 1: all that. You go back, you know fifteen years later, like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, but uh yeah, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: one of those great SEC traditions. But ole Miss football
Speaker 1: is SEC traditions. Their glory days were way back in
Speaker 1: the day. But obviously Lane Kiffin's got them playing pretty
Speaker 1: good football right now. What kind of game do you expect?
Speaker 7: I think this is a game. We talk a lot
Speaker 7: about games when they're good on good right, strength on strength.
Speaker 7: Its great defense against a great offense, and I think
Speaker 7: that's what we're going to see on that side of
Speaker 7: the ball. I mean, ole Miss's offense has been absolutely
Speaker 7: firing on all cylinders of trying to pull up the
Speaker 7: exact numbers, but I'm pretty sure they're averaging somewhere in
Speaker 7: the forties or the fifties in terms of points per
Speaker 7: game because they have just been blowing teams out of
Speaker 7: the water. Yeah, here we go seventy six to zero
Speaker 7: against Furman, fifty two to three against MCSU already, the
Speaker 7: sixth at Wake Forest on the road, and then fifty
Speaker 7: two to thirteen against Georgia Southern. Obviously not quite the
Speaker 7: schedule that even a team might Kentucky has played with
Speaker 7: two SEC games already on the cast resume versus none
Speaker 7: so far for the Rebels, But either way, just the
Speaker 7: margin of victory alone is impressive. But I think it
Speaker 7: also says a little bit, maybe a lot, about Howling
Speaker 7: Kiffin not only wants to play, but how he wants
Speaker 7: to win. He's not afraid to blow teams down, He's
Speaker 7: not afraid to kid Jackson's are. His stats are helped
Speaker 7: bolster his resume for some postseason awards. Obviously, I think
Speaker 7: he's stuck in right now in Heisman voting, sort of
Speaker 7: an early look at that already, he's obviously been very impressive.
Speaker 7: Has the Rebels quarterback again this year, So I think
Speaker 7: that offense is very, very, very dangerous. It helps that
Speaker 7: Kentucky's strength up to this point seems to be its defense,
Speaker 7: and so stopping the run has really been the strength.
Speaker 7: But we're definitely going to see Kentucky's passing defense put
Speaker 7: to the test this Saturday. And then on the other
Speaker 7: side of the ball, it's just who can make the
Speaker 7: most of the opportunities, right like ken, Kentucky's offense get
Speaker 7: it going against the unit of ole Miss's defense. It's
Speaker 7: a little bit weaker than their offense, but still certainly talented,
Speaker 7: top ten team for a reason. On the road, rowdy environment,
Speaker 7: it's that fan base's first taste of SEC ball as well.
Speaker 7: So regardless of the kickoff time, they're going to be
Speaker 7: excited to have an SEC team in town. And I
Speaker 7: think it's going to be a little bit crazy as
Speaker 7: always down there in Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And the thing to remember as well is this
Speaker 1: Ole Miss defense is better. You know, you're right, and
Speaker 1: the offense executes better than the defense, but this is
Speaker 1: a better Old Miss defense than we've seen probably since
Speaker 1: Kiffen's been there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that that could be right. It's just
Speaker 7: not the pinnacle of what Elaine Kiffen's team makes you
Speaker 7: think about, right me, such an offensive coach that I
Speaker 7: think maybe they kind of fly a little bit under
Speaker 7: the radar. We'll see if that's still the case after
Speaker 7: this week, but I do think Kentucky's defense has a
Speaker 7: real opportunity here to show up and show out, just
Speaker 7: like they have against Georgia. I mean, I know every
Speaker 7: person in Kentucky, maybe in America. Gosh, I saw this
Speaker 7: guy everywhere was talking about the stat of Kentucky League
Speaker 7: Georgia under twenty points for three meetings in a row
Speaker 7: in Lexington and that those are the only three times
Speaker 7: that that's happened. Right, Kentucky's defense knows how to play Georgia.
Speaker 7: They know how to show up. Broad White knows how
Speaker 7: to team against that coach and that system. I'm excited
Speaker 7: to see how that can translate against a different team,
Speaker 7: but still a very, very talented, high caliber team.
Speaker 1: What has been your take through four games now on
Speaker 1: Brock Vandergriff.
Speaker 7: I think Brock vander Griff has had just about as
Speaker 7: weird of a start as we could imagine, and it's
Speaker 7: been very challenging for me to come away with one
Speaker 7: consistent feeling about the Kentucky quarterback position at this point. Obviously,
Speaker 7: Game one we were there, the rain, the delay, the lightning,
Speaker 7: everything was just weird. Right, You've never got a chance
Speaker 7: to get in a rhythm. I don't feel like that
Speaker 7: was There was really nothing Brock could have showed us
Speaker 7: in such a choppy, weird, disjointed game. So no big
Speaker 7: takeaways in week one, which is weird. Week two disappointing
Speaker 7: all around. Not a good effort, not a good product
Speaker 7: to put out by the Kentucky offense, not necessarily up
Speaker 7: to part by the defense either, now that we've seen
Speaker 7: them play a much more efficient game. But I just
Speaker 7: don't think that Bronx Vander Griff had a ton of
Speaker 7: time or a lot of options, to be frank with you,
Speaker 7: in that game either, I mean, you go back. I
Speaker 7: watched that game, I think three times, because I guess
Speaker 7: I hate myself. I don't know. I watched that game
Speaker 7: several times, and every time I watched it, it was like,
Speaker 7: good lord, he just had no time to throw or
Speaker 7: to make anything happen because of the offensive line. So
Speaker 7: I really didn't have a big roth takeaway in Week
Speaker 7: two either. I thought he looked really good against Georgia.
Speaker 7: That was really the first time I felt like we
Speaker 7: saw him play a more consistent game. And then Ohio
Speaker 7: obviously is a non conference opponent, it's a different level
Speaker 7: of competition, but I was pretty pleased with how he
Speaker 7: looked there as well. I think the Gavin Wimsit experiment
Speaker 7: is interesting. He obviously played a good, solid role against Ohio.
Speaker 7: But I'll be interested to see how bush Hand and
Speaker 7: march Soup's really the whole staff works him in or
Speaker 7: doesn't work him in against Ole Miss this Saturday, just
Speaker 7: to see how Brock does in his first road SEC
Speaker 7: test will be an interesting thing to watch. But the
Speaker 7: running game really has been the most interesting part of
Speaker 7: the offense. I mean, I think I just talked about
Speaker 7: what's made it hard to sort of assess the passing
Speaker 7: game specifically just because of all of the weirdness at
Speaker 7: the start of the season, but the running game I
Speaker 7: really did not have confidence in heading into the season,
Speaker 7: especially once Chip train him was announced out and you
Speaker 7: just look at the lack of depth or perceived the
Speaker 7: lack of depth in that room and just didn't have
Speaker 7: super high hopes. But Demi Sumocarnbay has taken that on
Speaker 7: the tin and has played really well. Jason Patterson looked
Speaker 7: really good early hopefully Kentucky gets him back, and Jamarion
Speaker 7: Wilcox I think has definitely her pass expectation. So it's
Speaker 7: been interesting to see that room find it's rhythm despite
Speaker 7: not having the sort of pre season expectations we're used
Speaker 7: to talking about a KITUCKI running back room.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing Chip training will be a game time decision,
Speaker 1: but he would give them one more club in the
Speaker 1: bag man Wilcox and you know, they were kind of
Speaker 1: dropping hints and it sounded like what they had seen
Speaker 1: in practice. The players were saying the same things about him.
Speaker 1: They couldn't wait to see it on the playing field.
Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely, and I heard that too. And it's just
Speaker 7: hard to tell, especially before that first game, how much
Speaker 7: is really like truly honest and genuine and like, yes,
Speaker 7: this guy's gonna play versus like, is this a freshman
Speaker 7: or a redshirt freshman who needs a little talking up
Speaker 7: or is it somebody we want people to have to
Speaker 7: prepare for that maybe they're not going to see, you know,
Speaker 7: it's just hard to know. But now that we've actually
Speaker 7: seen Wilcox out there getting reds, being very efficient with
Speaker 7: the ball, I thought he can add another dimension to
Speaker 7: this offense as well. Like you said, a chip train
Speaker 7: of comes back. That's somebody that ole miss has not
Speaker 7: had any tape on it. Yeah, this season, and that
Speaker 7: could be another interesting part too.
Speaker 1: She is Maggie Davis. You see her work on BBN
Speaker 1: Tonight and BBN Game Day. Thank you, ma'am, and we
Speaker 1: will talk to you again soon.
Speaker 7: Thank you so much. Talk soon.
Speaker 1: By the way, you can follow Miss Maggie on Twitter
Speaker 1: or x whatever it is you'd like to call it
Speaker 1: at Maggie Davis TV and on her ex feed or
Speaker 1: Twitter feed as a combination of sound bites from her
Speaker 1: sit down with Mark Pope, and it's linked to a
Speaker 1: SoundBite from my buddy and a frequent guest on our show,
Speaker 1: Ken Spencer from WHAS when he did a sit down
Speaker 1: with Pat Kelsey and he talked to Kelsey about the
Speaker 1: importance of the rivalry with Kentucky. So Maggie got Mark's
Speaker 1: response and reaction to that that series. I don't know
Speaker 1: about the quality of basketball, but in terms of the
Speaker 1: intensity between the fans and the coaches, both of those coaches,
Speaker 1: as you know, are incredibly intense. So that's going to
Speaker 1: remain fun, I think through the years. But if and
Speaker 1: when both of those guys can get their programs back
Speaker 1: in the top ten, top fifteen, that'll make it a
Speaker 1: whole lot better. And there were years you remember both
Speaker 1: teams were in the top ten, top five. Up next
Speaker 1: to highlight melt from Kentucky's win over Ohio. You and
Speaker 1: we'll look back on my conversation with new Hall of
Speaker 1: Famer Oscar Combs here on six thirty WLAP Welcome back
Speaker 1: to the Big Blue Insider. If you missed Saturday's radio broadcast.
Speaker 1: If you were at the game or watching on TV
Speaker 1: without your radio on, we forgive you, but you need
Speaker 1: to hear it because well, there were a lot of
Speaker 1: good things for the Wildcats, a lot of highlights. We
Speaker 1: got them for you right here. Tom Leach Jeff Pecor
Speaker 1: had the action as the Wildcats took on the Bobcats.
Speaker 1: Here's our uk melt Ada.
Speaker 8: Griff settles into Shaune gun formation, dingle tight end, going
Speaker 8: in motion wide to the right and they give it
Speaker 8: to Wilcox sweeping left.
Speaker 1: He's got a hole across the ford.
Speaker 8: He breaks and tackle into Ohio territory down to the Bobcats.
Speaker 4: Forty five yard line.
Speaker 8: As Shamerion Wilcox running with that physical style that we've
Speaker 8: seen in that time, we got to see a little
Speaker 8: bit of that juice that he has.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you pulled that time.
Speaker 9: They pulled Cox, Eli Cox, I should say, and Dylan
Speaker 9: Ray and they just blasted out that whole left side.
Speaker 9: Nice pickup, nice blocket, I said.
Speaker 1: The field goal unit out there and.
Speaker 9: It's much to the chagrin of.
Speaker 1: A little bit of a low step.
Speaker 8: Barry gets it down and Rainer puts it through and
Speaker 8: Kentucky is on the board first with five forty eight
Speaker 8: left to play here in this opening quarter at Kroger Field,
Speaker 8: Kentucky three ohio nothing back Sumo tar Bank lay fake
Speaker 8: to him and a grip, getting pressure and fires it
Speaker 8: off to the far side and it's caught if through
Speaker 8: that jet from the left hash mark all the way
Speaker 8: to the right sideline to Barry and Brown and it's
Speaker 8: a gain of fourteen out to the thirty nine yard line.
Speaker 9: Yeah, forty nine yards basically in the air and right
Speaker 9: on the money.
Speaker 1: And off the will Cox sweeping right has.
Speaker 8: It out out ross up back down across the forty
Speaker 8: and he can't rank away in there and a big
Speaker 8: game for Javari and will Cox and he gets away
Speaker 8: from that guy is Dustin Johnson over the far side.
Speaker 8: It's see you later. Instead he takes it down to
Speaker 8: the ohio forty. It's twenty one.
Speaker 9: More yard Yeah, really nice blocking and it's Eli Cox
Speaker 9: who's pulling from the center spot like Dermani Dawson used
Speaker 9: to do and makes the nice kickout blocked the second.
Speaker 8: Time they've done that. Two tight ends right Caddis and
Speaker 8: Dingle handoff will Cuxford and clips of tackle angles right
Speaker 8: twenty five uses the State Army gets inside the twenty
Speaker 8: and out of bounds at the seventeen yard line of Ohio.
Speaker 8: Tenty three more yards for Kentucky breaking off those big
Speaker 8: chunk plays that have been missing from the first three weeks.
Speaker 9: That was a Walter Payton Jim Brown for arm right
Speaker 9: to Austin Browley's helmet.
Speaker 4: It just knocked him off of him.
Speaker 8: Wildcats will turn around and go left to right. Will
Speaker 8: we come back to start the second fifteen minutes at
Speaker 8: Roger Field where Kentucky leads Ohio three to nothing.
Speaker 1: From Vander Griff pressure coming.
Speaker 8: Fires into the middle, caught at the one yard line, it'll.
Speaker 4: Be Perston Gold to go. Dan Key tried.
Speaker 8: To stretch it into the end zone, but he was
Speaker 8: already down.
Speaker 4: Perfect brow Yeah, they're right up.
Speaker 1: Back to the line of Screamich. I'll talk to you
Speaker 1: in a second.
Speaker 8: Dustin Johnson making a hit Andander Griff gives it to
Speaker 8: sumocarn Bay and he's head touchdown Kentucky. A little push
Speaker 8: from the fact from Jordan Dingle helped make it happen.
Speaker 8: As the Wildcats get into the end zone. Second play
Speaker 8: of the second quarter, results in the first touchdown of
Speaker 8: the game. The Wildcats have eat ten nothing lead.
Speaker 1: Pull Us takes the.
Speaker 8: Snack, rolls, knock loomall hen Kentucky's got it? Oh and
Speaker 8: then it pops out of JJ Weaver's hands and.
Speaker 4: Did Ohio get it back? JJ? No, Cat's got it.
Speaker 8: Weaver was thinking scoop and score and he kind of
Speaker 8: lost his balance as he'd been over to scoop it up.
Speaker 8: But a teammate was able to fall on the football
Speaker 8: at Kentucky gets its first takeaway of the day and
Speaker 8: Loved was diving for it.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was him that got it.
Speaker 4: JJ Weaver got it back.
Speaker 8: They just rushed three pegrit has plenty of time sliding
Speaker 8: off to his right.
Speaker 1: Now the protection breaks down.
Speaker 4: Throws it up the far side.
Speaker 8: It's caught on game key hand sign Ohio Territory pulled
Speaker 8: down of the forty one yard line.
Speaker 4: Well, that was a nice play by Rock. I was
Speaker 4: getting ready to.
Speaker 9: Say he needs to stay in the pocket instead of
Speaker 9: get out of the pocket.
Speaker 4: But his arm is strong enough. Dave Key just took
Speaker 4: off and he do it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 9: That was about a fifty five yards off his back leg.
Speaker 8: The ndergrip against a four man rush, rolling out to
Speaker 8: his right, fires back into the middle. He's got keen
Speaker 8: in seven and twenty, there's sideline ten pearls, got time
Speaker 8: clerk buckets down to the two yard line.
Speaker 4: Send me with lucklt what Ronnie.
Speaker 1: Would like that move?
Speaker 9: Well, Tom the toughest play for defense to try to
Speaker 9: defend his crossing patterns. And that time they had a
Speaker 9: guy short crossing and Dane about eighteen yards crossing.
Speaker 1: He he'd even stride.
Speaker 4: Ain't he having a big day?
Speaker 8: Second time he set him up inside the five with
Speaker 8: one of his catches, that one for thirty two yards,
Speaker 8: thirty six yards on the right hash part.
Speaker 4: They give it to simlparn Bay and he's got a
Speaker 4: second touchdown right up the middle.
Speaker 8: Kentucky seventeen Ohio nothing. Four oh seven left the play
Speaker 8: in the first half. Seventeen nothing. Kentucky is Ohio prepares
Speaker 8: once again for a third and ten play.
Speaker 1: They bring three drop eight.
Speaker 8: Pulis throws near side and it is broken up down
Speaker 8: at the thirty yard line, and that was the freshman
Speaker 8: to Ryan Nichols breaking it up. Seventeen nothing. Kentucky leads Ohio.
Speaker 8: It is halftime on a Hall of Fame weekend at
Speaker 8: uk empty backfield. Pulis throws all that that's gonna be
Speaker 8: a pick six, and it's Maxwell Hairston time dallas Ons.
Speaker 4: With his third career pen six.
Speaker 9: Well, he locked on late to this. Paulus, he'll learn
Speaker 9: from this. You cannot do this versus sec. The corners
Speaker 9: are too quick.
Speaker 4: Harston bluffy.
Speaker 9: He looked like he was going to lay off one
Speaker 9: the guy that was running to the middle, and he
Speaker 9: baited him and he'd do it out there, and that
Speaker 9: was easy pickies.
Speaker 8: Since the start of the twenty twenty season, Kentucky now
Speaker 8: has eleven pick six is tied with Ohio State and
Speaker 8: Iowa with the most in the nation.
Speaker 4: Through twenty seven nothing. Kentucky leeds with.
Speaker 8: Five twelve to play here in the third quarter, and
Speaker 8: it's a quarterback keeper Vandergraff. He's got the first down
Speaker 8: breaks away from a tackler inside the thirty five, knocked
Speaker 8: down at the thirty two yard line of Ohio for.
Speaker 1: A first down.
Speaker 8: Prodi and Johnson on the tackle they'll spot at the
Speaker 8: Ohio thirty three in a game of fourteen yards for Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Six catches on the day, four.
Speaker 4: Key hundred fifteen yards.
Speaker 8: In short of his career best. That's already a career
Speaker 8: high in yarding. The ander grip, sliding left sets throughout his.
Speaker 4: Near side catch pay for the first down.
Speaker 8: It's diving gram five day, damn day Keith good till
Speaker 8: it was a six or five and.
Speaker 4: He stands up. I know it's a six. Just a
Speaker 4: corner pattern Toobby.
Speaker 9: He fakes the post and it cuts out into the
Speaker 9: sidelines and he's wide open.
Speaker 8: Needed sixteen, got sixteen consecutive completions to Dame Keith.
Speaker 4: They make up first to thirty in two.
Speaker 8: Passes and they give it on the jet sweep. Bavarian
Speaker 8: Brown trying to get outside across the twenty, got an
Speaker 8: alley at the tent at the five touch.
Speaker 4: Wow, Kentucky.
Speaker 9: That finally head on the Jets sweep around the left
Speaker 9: edd dummy. That looked like those dvs were running in
Speaker 9: quicksand I mean they had him dead to rights and
Speaker 9: he just out ran them to the end zone.
Speaker 4: He hit the gas and it was goodbye.
Speaker 9: I mean, Tank was at the five yard line and
Speaker 9: that was like both Jackson ran by him.
Speaker 8: Kentucky thirty four Ohio six did the freshman White app
Speaker 8: wide right, said, looks right and rolls back to his left,
Speaker 8: floats it down the near.
Speaker 4: Side Carlo nice beautiful row.
Speaker 8: My Whimson drops it right into the red basket of
Speaker 8: Anthony Brown Stevens as he went out.
Speaker 9: Of bounds at the thirty one yard line. Really nice play.
Speaker 9: Kenne revers out to his left on the run. He
Speaker 9: squares his shoulders and puts it dark right on number
Speaker 9: five Anthony Brown steven.
Speaker 8: He couldn't drop a nine h or thinner into the
Speaker 8: green than that. Through trips to the right for Whimson,
Speaker 8: tight end left third nineteen Whimsit's setting up deep steps
Speaker 8: up in the pocket, throws it complete Farrier with the
Speaker 8: catch for a first down in the twenty Wow.
Speaker 4: How smart is that kid?
Speaker 8: Farrier?
Speaker 9: He gets right where he has to go for the
Speaker 9: first down and then takes one more step, then comes
Speaker 9: across and Gavin puts it right.
Speaker 8: There, then sets numb the two gotta keep it himself
Speaker 8: and he.
Speaker 4: Goes and standing up.
Speaker 8: Touchdown Kentucky the first one for Owensborough High School's Gavin
Speaker 8: Wemsit Rainer.
Speaker 1: Puts it through.
Speaker 8: We will keep it here.
Speaker 4: As Kentucky moves the lead out to forty.
Speaker 8: One to six over the Ohio Bobcatch.
Speaker 1: Player of the game's dame key And was the game
Speaker 1: plan such that you thought you could get to the
Speaker 1: spots on the field that you did success.
Speaker 10: You know, I wasn't really thinking about like, oh, like
Speaker 10: I'm gonna have a career game. I was really just
Speaker 10: wanting to go out there and play for the team.
Speaker 10: And you know, when you play for the team, I
Speaker 10: just feel like the ball tends to find you. So
Speaker 10: that's really what I was just trying to go out
Speaker 10: there and do and just play for my teammates, and
Speaker 10: whenever the ball came my way, I was just trying
Speaker 10: to make that play.
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna sell bad now. We were just
Speaker 1: about ready to hear from Jeff Chlorol, but he gave
Speaker 1: way to somebody a little more important, and I said,
Speaker 1: coach Mark stoops.
Speaker 11: So I had this off to Tom Leech, Tom telling
Speaker 11: me to host, Okay, coach stops here. Coach is ready
Speaker 11: to get the heck out of here, go home?
Speaker 1: Did the pool?
Speaker 8: Mark, where would you like to start?
Speaker 12: There's a lot to like today, I think, you know,
Speaker 12: just I knew it wasn't just gonna be just like
Speaker 12: real easy.
Speaker 8: You know that, like you and I talk, never is
Speaker 8: against those MAC.
Speaker 12: Teams never and uh, our team, I think really bought
Speaker 12: in early the week, and U was good that they
Speaker 12: just stayed of course and continue to concentrate on us
Speaker 12: and getting better and improving and getting some plays. And
Speaker 12: we got a lot of players in the game, and
Speaker 12: you know, still made a lot of mistakes, but did
Speaker 12: a lot of good things as well.
Speaker 8: So the Wildcats get their second win of the season,
Speaker 8: bounce back from him the heartbreak last week to get
Speaker 8: a decisive win today over Ohio University Kentucky forty one.
Speaker 4: The Bobcats six.
Speaker 1: That's the way we called it on Saturday. As the
Speaker 1: Cats hang up victory number two, they shoot for number three.
Speaker 1: Of course this Saturday down in Oxford, Tom and Jeff
Speaker 1: and I will have it for you pregame with Christy
Speaker 1: and Logan and Jeremy right here. Coming up next. Some
Speaker 1: strange goings on in the Southeastern Conference off the field.
Speaker 1: There's always some weird stuff on the field, but off
Speaker 1: the field involving coaches, well you haven't heard it yet,
Speaker 1: You're gonna hear it next on the Big Blue Insider.
Speaker 1: Six point thirty WLA Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider.
Speaker 1: Last night over in Louisville the Kentucky Sports Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame induction ceremony, and one of the guys who was
Speaker 1: inducted was Mapel Oscar Combs, who created the Cat's Balls,
Speaker 1: really created fan magazines and college athletics. His was the first,
Speaker 1: always was the best in the Cats Pause and then
Speaker 1: joined us later in his career on the UK Radio
Speaker 1: Network and earlier this year, I had a chance to
Speaker 1: talk to Oscar after he had just found out that
Speaker 1: he was going into the Kentucky Sports Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: Joining us down the celebrity highline is a longtime friend
Speaker 1: and colleague and now Hall of Fame Rold the Oscar
Speaker 1: Combs has won several awards to his career. Oscar, congratulations,
Speaker 1: What does this one mean to you? Kentucky Hall of Fame.
Speaker 13: Well, you know, Dick, thank you first of all. And
Speaker 13: I was inducting in the Kentucky Journalist from Hall of
Speaker 13: Fame next to two thousands, and to most Kentuckians they
Speaker 13: would say that would be the ultimate honor for a
Speaker 13: journalist in the state of Kentucky. But I'm more of
Speaker 13: a specialist than just a general practitioner. And I really
Speaker 13: have to say, with apologies to the USK Journey School
Speaker 13: of Journalism, that this was the biggest honor of all
Speaker 13: because it comes from my peers, people in the sports world,
Speaker 13: writers and journalists, and it's all about Kentucky's sports. Uh.
Speaker 13: I don't know where people like Nick gabra on os
Speaker 13: Combs would be if we were born without sports, That's right, I.
Speaker 1: Shud to think. And we've had a lot of enjoyable,
Speaker 1: enjoyable moments, haven't we. And this had to be what
Speaker 1: what was your reactional when you got the call?
Speaker 13: Uh? I know, a numbness couple of minutes and like, no,
Speaker 13: this is not happening, you know, and then uh uh
Speaker 13: I gotta be honest with it, it was just sure joy.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been to the event? I was part
Speaker 1: of it for a long time, and forgive me, I
Speaker 1: can't remember if you were there or not. I'm sure
Speaker 1: you've been at least once, right, No, I haven't said that.
Speaker 13: I was at several of the UK Hall of Fame
Speaker 13: because I was on the voting committee for years. Yeah,
Speaker 13: but I've never I've never been to the Kentucky Sports
Speaker 13: Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you stay.
Speaker 13: It was my first trip to Churchill Downs.
Speaker 1: I heard that, Yeah, that's that's where they had the event.
Speaker 1: And uh, you're not a gambler, you're not a horse player. Uh,
Speaker 1: but what did you think of Churchill?
Speaker 13: Overwhelming?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 13: I mean and and this was a small crowd today
Speaker 13: versus what's going to be their Friday and Saturday. But uh,
Speaker 13: it's two mongas. I mean, it's uh after being there
Speaker 13: for a day and going through this, and the governor
Speaker 13: had a press conference immediately before hours where they're talking
Speaker 13: about you know, dollars for state and what it produces
Speaker 13: the state, the economy, the economic impact, and I understand
Speaker 13: how the horse industry uh carries a lot of weight
Speaker 13: in frank today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah. Talking to Oscar Combs, one of the
Speaker 1: new Hall of Famers at Kentucky Sports Hall of Fame. Uh.
Speaker 1: And of course the event, the actual banquet itself, will
Speaker 1: be in September. When you take a look at some
Speaker 1: of the names that are in that hall, Oscar, Muhammad
Speaker 1: Ali and King Kelly Coleman and people like that, and
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people in there that you
Speaker 1: have covered, You've interviewed it kind of comes full circle,
Speaker 1: doesn't it.
Speaker 13: Yes, it does, Dick. And after I got the phone
Speaker 13: call that said that I was chosen, I went in
Speaker 13: on the website and I started reading all those dates,
Speaker 13: and my goodness, I mean, you know, it's sort of like, uh,
Speaker 13: you know, they're putting oscar combs in there. I mean,
Speaker 13: like I'm sitting behind me, Ali, I mean, just one
Speaker 13: great one after another one. I mean even Secretariat, you know, yeah,
Speaker 13: I guess. And I remember when they put that in.
Speaker 13: I think it was called had a Different Cattle One
Speaker 13: time sports person or you or something, and they had
Speaker 13: to change the name because they didn't cover horse, and
Speaker 13: they put the secretariot in, so they called it, you know,
Speaker 13: sports figure, sports figure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, uh. And when I was involved in it
Speaker 1: was a Kentucky Athletic Hall of Fame and uh, secretaris
Speaker 1: a athlete, so you know, uh, but you covered a
Speaker 1: lot of athletes, a lot of coaches. But obviously you're
Speaker 1: best known for the Cats pause. And I remember when
Speaker 1: you were on this very show one night and I
Speaker 1: realized I had never asked you how in the world
Speaker 1: did you come to create the Cats pause? And you
Speaker 1: took me back to nineteen seventy six. Did you ever
Speaker 1: think that that move, that business and journalism move would
Speaker 1: lead to what it became.
Speaker 13: Had no idea. I just really thought that I could
Speaker 13: make a living out of it, but I didn't know
Speaker 13: it would start a trending. At one point there were
Speaker 13: like sixty two universities that had independent publications like that.
Speaker 13: It's snifically less now as most print minister is. But
Speaker 13: I'm laving on my good friend and your good friend,
Speaker 13: Darryl bal to pull us across the finish line in
Speaker 13: my man mind because in the year and I had
Speaker 13: from now the catch Falls is celebrated fiftieth birthday.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 13: And never in my wildest dreams that I think it
Speaker 13: would like most business is last ten fifteen years. Yeah,
Speaker 13: twenty twenty five maps, you know, And this was something
Speaker 13: that never been tried before, right.
Speaker 1: And Daryl Bird, like you said, is now the editor
Speaker 1: and basically the chief cook and bottle washer, and is
Speaker 1: dealing with just a different age with the Internet. And
Speaker 1: you know, you've still got it's a slick sheet now
Speaker 1: instead of newsprint, but you've also got the website. So
Speaker 1: the way it's changed through the years, Oscar, it just
Speaker 1: kind of rattles your mind, doesn't it.
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's the reason why I say that I'm just
Speaker 13: really powerful that they could make it a couple of years,
Speaker 13: because even the hero leader doesn't print a thirty edition anymore. Right,
Speaker 13: he would have never dreamed that five years ago. Wow,
Speaker 13: I'm picking didn't even exist anymore. Yeah, And I can
Speaker 13: remember the days where we were getting the morning edition
Speaker 13: after the nineteen ninety six SEC championship and after the
Speaker 13: twenty twelve Nice Championship. You know, not having a morning
Speaker 13: paper to cover the championship in your home town. It's
Speaker 13: you know, but that's the world we live in today.
Speaker 1: Well, when did you step away from the magazine itself?
Speaker 1: What year? It was?
Speaker 13: Ninety seven? I had had a back paced surgery in
Speaker 13: ninety In ninety five, I had it again, and my
Speaker 13: doctors told me, id, you're in pretty good shape for everything.
Speaker 13: Sitting you're letting stress get took And he said, what
Speaker 13: we've done this time, it'll take care of you for
Speaker 13: another ten years. He said, but if you want to
Speaker 13: live a long time, get rid of the stress. And
Speaker 13: Kevin to sell the newspaper said, get rid of the stress.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 13: The people that I printed with for years worked for
Speaker 13: him in Shelbyville. Come up one day and took me
Speaker 13: out to lunch and went just talking. And when he
Speaker 13: got to he said, now, if you ever sell this,
Speaker 13: call us first. And one thing led to another, and
Speaker 13: I said, well, it's not for sale, but put down
Speaker 13: a little on that piece of paper there. What kind
Speaker 13: of ballpark you look at? And the guy who's the
Speaker 13: president of the company also did all of my text
Speaker 13: work for the previous fifteen years. Wow, So he didn't
Speaker 13: have to come in and look at the books or anything.
Speaker 13: He did the books and he turned the strip around,
Speaker 13: try to figure in and pod it up. He said,
Speaker 13: don't open this t you get home. And when I
Speaker 13: got home, well, the rest of the.
Speaker 1: History, it literally is. That's the big old That's what
Speaker 1: they called Oscar Robertson of the nie here parts, that's
Speaker 1: what we call Oscar Combs. Now a member of the
Speaker 1: Kentucky Sports Hall of Fame. That's going to do it,
Speaker 1: thanks to my guess, Maggie Davis to Van Hiles, that's it.
Speaker 1: Good night from the garage and Lexington.
Speaker 5: Just when I think you couldn't possibly be any dumber,
Speaker 5: you go and do something like.
Speaker 4: This and totally redeem yourself.
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