WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.920 --> 00:00:03.759 Welcome back. Coming up at the bottom of the hour, 2 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:06.160 Van Hiles, Well, look ahead. I talked to Van more 3 00:00:06.200 --> 00:00:08.960 about Old Miss than I did about the Ohio game. 4 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:11.759 Such a blowout, and I'm more interested in Van, as 5 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:14.759 a former defensive back, trying to describe what it's going 6 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:17.559 to take for the Wildcats to handle this Old Miss offense. 7 00:00:17.559 --> 00:00:19.600 So that comes up at the bottom of the hour. 8 00:00:19.719 --> 00:00:22.199 Maggie Davis at BBN tonight in hour number two, as 9 00:00:22.199 --> 00:00:25.760 well as our melt of the Ohio U highlights and 10 00:00:26.160 --> 00:00:29.600 my conversation with Oscar Combs that we had with him 11 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:32.520 back earlier this year when he first learned that he 12 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:35.079 was being inducted into the Kentucky Sports Hall of Fame, 13 00:00:35.119 --> 00:00:43.520 which happened last night. A couple of notes from campus 14 00:00:43.560 --> 00:00:46.759 before we really dive into college sports. Big Blue Madness 15 00:00:46.799 --> 00:00:52.119 coming up on Friday, October eleventh in Rupp Arena at 16 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:56.280 seven o'clock tickets presented by Ronald McDonald House Charities at 17 00:00:56.280 --> 00:01:01.280 the Bluegrass Big Blue Madness that is distributed eclusively online 18 00:01:01.320 --> 00:01:05.959 at ticketmaster dot Com through the Ticketmaster app starting at 19 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:10.680 five o'clock this Friday. So if you want tickets for 20 00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:15.680 Big Blue Madness this Friday, get on ticketmaster dot com 21 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:19.280 or through the Ticketmaster app, and of course it begins 22 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:22.439 at seven o'clock. As I said in rupp Arena. Now, 23 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:27.040 Monday of that week, on October seven is UK Pro Day. 24 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:28.920 You can't get into that, but you can see it. 25 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:32.439 We're going to stream it for you on SEC Plus 26 00:01:32.599 --> 00:01:36.040 Jack Gibbons and I will have that for you. Whatever 27 00:01:36.079 --> 00:01:38.680 action there is, we'll have that for you. And I'm 28 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:40.879 hoping with a lot of interviews from some of the 29 00:01:40.879 --> 00:01:43.640 people who are there. So it's a big week coming up. 30 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:46.400 Not that we're looking past football at all, but that 31 00:01:46.519 --> 00:01:50.400 second week in October is when things really really crank up. 32 00:01:51.680 --> 00:01:54.120 And by the way, in case you're wondering, no in 33 00:01:54.200 --> 00:01:58.439 person ticket distribution because they're still working on the renovation 34 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:03.640 of Memorial forgive me. They keep officially calling it Historic 35 00:02:03.680 --> 00:02:07.439 Memorial Coliseum. But I'm old school, and maybe old school 36 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:10.879 I should call it historic, but that that relabeling it's 37 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:14.080 going to be hard for me to get used to anyway. Yeah, 38 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:15.759 I know a lot of you love to camp out 39 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:18.919 or love to see the video of people camping out, 40 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:22.599 but not this year. You drive down Euclid Avenue and 41 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:25.280 you can see there on the Avenue of Champions. There's 42 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:29.879 still a lot going on at Memorial Coliseum, so that's big. 43 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:34.479 The second week of October is when basketball cranks up. 44 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:37.240 And while we're talking Kentucky basketball, a little bit later on, 45 00:02:37.280 --> 00:02:40.759 Maggie Davis and I will talk about Mark Pope, who 46 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:43.879 sat down with Maggie for an interview for BBN tonight. 47 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:47.400 But she posted a couple of clips apart from her 48 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:51.360 interview with Pope and then a clip from one of 49 00:02:51.360 --> 00:02:56.400 the Louisville stations where both coaches talk about the rivalry, 50 00:02:56.479 --> 00:02:59.400 the UKU of l rivalry, and I've kind of spliced 51 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:01.520 to get to the back and forth between Mark Pope 52 00:03:01.879 --> 00:03:04.800 and Pat Kelsey, the new U of BUKA, both guys 53 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:08.000 in their first seasons, and they seem to like each 54 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:10.199 other and they love the rivalry. 55 00:03:10.960 --> 00:03:15.639 This rivalry is beautiful and it's and there's no holds barred. 56 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:19.280 It's a backyard brawl and it matters, and it matters 57 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:20.759 to everybody involved. 58 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:21.919 You know, I got. 59 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:25.560 Introduced to this rivalry, uh when I first got here 60 00:03:25.879 --> 00:03:29.879 thirty years ago, and it is as good as it 61 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:33.039 gets in the sport of basketball, not just college basketball, 62 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:36.439 but at any level, and we're excited about it like 63 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:39.800 it's it's it's it's a defining moment in every single 64 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:43.400 Kentucky season. It's something we take really seriously and I 65 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:44.199 love it. 66 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:47.599 It's one of the great rivalries in collegiate sports. It is. 67 00:03:48.520 --> 00:03:50.240 I know how important it is to the people of 68 00:03:50.280 --> 00:03:53.080 this town. You know. I've gotten to know Mark a 69 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:57.080 little bit, you know, and I can't probably shouldn't say 70 00:03:57.120 --> 00:03:59.879 it very loud, but try not to like him. But 71 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:01.439 it's a pretty good dude. 72 00:04:02.719 --> 00:04:03.639 I was like, why you got to. 73 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:04.960 Be not why you got to be a good dude. 74 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:06.680 I'm supposed to like dislike you, you know. 75 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:09.599 I think Pat's terrific. I think he's a great coach. 76 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:11.719 I think he's doing a great job. He's in use 77 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:15.680 so much energy and Louisville and and I have a 78 00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:18.360 ton of respect for him. I'm incredibly excited to compete 79 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:20.519 against him, and and both of us will be at 80 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:22.120 a point in a frienzy where we want to rip 81 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:24.759 each other's heads off during the game because that's how 82 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:27.560 you're supposed to be, and then I'm going to continue 83 00:04:27.560 --> 00:04:28.480 to like him after the game. 84 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:31.879 I'm just excited to be a part of it it is. 85 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:35.560 I think rivalries are what makes college sports great. And 86 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:37.879 you know, they stop being rivalries if you don't win 87 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:40.199 one every once in a while. So let's let's think 88 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:40.560 and go. 89 00:04:40.920 --> 00:04:41.920 Let's go, let's go. 90 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:48.120 In athletics, we have a beautiful opportunity to compete harder 91 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:52.800 than anybody can possibly imagine that people can compete and 92 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:55.680 then to like show mutual respect and love each other 93 00:04:55.720 --> 00:04:57.759 aside from that. I think that's really important. That's a 94 00:04:57.800 --> 00:05:00.600 real thing. And we know you talk. 95 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:04.519 That's Mark Pope and Pat Kelsey, And it's going to 96 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:07.319 be fun when these teams get together because right now 97 00:05:07.399 --> 00:05:10.079 they're the mystery teams and I can't wait for the 98 00:05:10.120 --> 00:05:14.360 soundbites that week from both Pope and Kelsey coming up 99 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:15.759 a little bit later on, as I said, we'll here 100 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:18.800 from Oscar Combs. One of the guys who practiced a 101 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:22.519 lot and very well thank you in Memorial Coliseum was 102 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:25.639 Tony Delk and he joined Oscar Combs and a couple 103 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:29.199 of others last night in Louisville at the Kentucky Sports 104 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:33.000 Hall of Fame Induction ceremony. They make the announcement in 105 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:37.360 the spring. The induction ceremonies last night at Freedom Hall 106 00:05:37.439 --> 00:05:39.839 by the Louisville Sports Commission, is a state wide Hall 107 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:42.279 of Fame. It's not a Louisville deal. That's been kind 108 00:05:42.279 --> 00:05:45.600 of a mislabeling of this event through the years, and 109 00:05:45.639 --> 00:05:48.000 I was deeply involved with it for twenty five years. 110 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:51.600 But people like to dismiss it as being a Louisville thing, 111 00:05:51.680 --> 00:05:54.439 but it's not. It's aid. In fact, one night we 112 00:05:54.519 --> 00:06:00.000 inducted four UK basketball players, four former UK basketball players 113 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:02.560 into the Hall of Fame at the same time, so 114 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:06.600 it's a big deal. And Tony Delk, of course, part 115 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:09.199 of the nineteen ninety six NCAA title team, was the 116 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:13.720 most outstanding player in the Final four that season. They 117 00:06:13.839 --> 00:06:18.319 joined Teddy Bridgewater, the great UFL quarterback who recently retired, 118 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:22.519 and Roy Pickerel, who was fifty three years with sports 119 00:06:22.560 --> 00:06:25.920 information at Kentucky Wesley. And Roy is such a great guy, 120 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:27.920 and I was delighted to see that he went in. 121 00:06:28.079 --> 00:06:31.120 I hated that I couldn't go to the ceremony to 122 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:34.079 be there for Oscar as we were last year when 123 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:36.399 Tom Leach went in, but they scheduled it on a 124 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:39.319 Monday night when we have all the state wide radio 125 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:43.920 shows The Stoop Show and BBN Radio and of course 126 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:47.720 the state wide BBI. So again theough congratulations, and we'll 127 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:51.120 hear my conversation with Oscar from back in the spring 128 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:54.680 coming up. A little bit later on, I mentioned we're 129 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:58.000 going to talk mostly college sports in this segment. Pro 130 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:01.600 sports coming up in our next second because the Bengals 131 00:07:02.199 --> 00:07:06.240 losing one they probably shouldn't have lost. But the news 132 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:09.839 right now in college athletics in general, the PAC twelve 133 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:12.560 trying to stage a comeback. We talked about that the 134 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:17.519 other day, went after Boise State, Fresno State, Colorado State, 135 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:22.040 San Diego State from the AAC, but they all said no, 136 00:07:22.319 --> 00:07:26.079 thank you. Now Utah State has said yes please, so 137 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:29.879 they'll leave the Mountain West and join the PAC twelve, 138 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:35.120 which gives both of those conference conferences seven members. A 139 00:07:35.240 --> 00:07:40.920 peace but I would love to know why those schools 140 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:44.800 in the AAC turned it down. Perhaps because the new 141 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:47.720 PAC twelve doesn't have a new TV deal for the 142 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:50.680 current members who won't play together until twenty twenty six. 143 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:54.519 Mountain West has a deal that expires in twenty months, 144 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:59.399 so everybody's looking for a media partner right now. It's 145 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:02.879 just all the craziness, and they're trying to split up 146 00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:07.079 whatever money is left after the SEC network and the 147 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:09.759 Big ten network and to an extent, the Big twelve 148 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:13.600 network have taken a majority of the money. So it 149 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:17.360 always comes back to money. And no longer do they 150 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:22.959 care about geographic affiliations. That's just gone for good until 151 00:08:23.120 --> 00:08:27.120 unless college football breaks off, does its own things and 152 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:30.439 lets everybody else go back to what they've been doing 153 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:36.960 when they really did think about rivalries and geography and 154 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:40.240 not making kids fly back and forth across the country 155 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:44.159 every other week. Football Wildcat says, you know, take an 156 00:08:44.159 --> 00:08:46.960 old miss down in Oxford this week, and they will 157 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:49.879 do so with a wide receiver who was the highest 158 00:08:49.919 --> 00:08:54.120 graded wide receiver in the country if you subscribe to 159 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:57.480 Pro Football Focus in their way of doing business. Dane 160 00:08:57.600 --> 00:09:03.200 Key was actually with Dante Thornton Junior of Tennessee. They 161 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:07.360 both graded out at ninety one point five to lead 162 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:10.919 every wide receiver in Division one football. Isaiah Horton of 163 00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:16.039 Miami was third, and I don't know that you would 164 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:18.120 recognize any of the other name. Miami actually had two 165 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:22.480 in the top seven, but Dane Key with career numbers 166 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:27.440 for catches and yardage rate of the highest. And you'll 167 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:29.600 hear a little bit of my conversation with Dane coming 168 00:09:29.679 --> 00:09:33.519 up in hour number two. Oh, while we're talking Wildcats, 169 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:36.039 we're not going to talk much about this game in 170 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:38.399 the next segment when we talk about pro football. But 171 00:09:38.840 --> 00:09:43.440 Buffalo destroyed Jacksonville forty seven to ten. The Jaguars of course, 172 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:46.519 Luke Fordner, who's not starting as I understand it anymore, 173 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:49.360 and a josh heinz Allen who is but was not 174 00:09:49.480 --> 00:09:52.679 much of a factor last night. Buffalo, of course, features 175 00:09:52.759 --> 00:09:57.080 Ray Davis in his first season since leaving Kentucky. Seven 176 00:09:57.159 --> 00:10:02.279 carries twenty two yards, and his first touchdown as a 177 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:05.960 professional came late in the game. I think it was 178 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:09.519 the last touchdown Buffalo scored in this route, and it 179 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:12.399 was in Buffalo. By the way. Ray also had a 180 00:10:12.399 --> 00:10:17.919 one catch for one yard. But I do enjoy seeing 181 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:22.279 the reaction of teammates when a guy like Ray, who 182 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:25.360 comes off the bench gets a moment like that, gets 183 00:10:25.360 --> 00:10:30.120 a touchdown, and I root for the Bills because of him. 184 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:31.840 I root for the Bills because I'd love to see 185 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:35.759 Buffalo finally win a Super Bowl, but I especially root 186 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:37.399 for him now because of Ray Davis. How do you 187 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:40.159 not root for Ray Davis? What a good dude and 188 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:44.240 had a great season A time I started saying career, 189 00:10:44.240 --> 00:10:47.440 he had a great career. But the one year at UK, 190 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:50.720 I know Kentucky fans still talk about it. Coming up next, 191 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:54.840 we will expand our conversation on pro football because the 192 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:59.159 Bengals let one get away last night, and an NFL 193 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:04.440 veteran now voice on ESPN Radio rips the Cincinnati team 194 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:07.200 and its quarterback. That's coming up here on six thirty 195 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:11.639 WLAP Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider. Coming up next, 196 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:14.080 Van Hiles, that's at the bottom of the hour, Maggie 197 00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:17.080 Davis of BBN tonight and aural number two, as well 198 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:19.879 as our melt of the highlights of the Kentucky Ohio 199 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:22.799 You game. So if you missed the radio broadcast, we'll 200 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:25.279 have the best parts of it coming up. And again 201 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:28.720 my conversation from back when Oscar Combs was named to 202 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:33.159 the Kentucky Sports Hall of Fame. Inducted last night over 203 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:37.039 in Louisville. The Bengals lost last night to a Washington 204 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:39.519 Commander's team that looked really good or did the Bengals 205 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:43.000 look bad? Well, they made Cam Taylor Britt look bad. 206 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:47.240 He of course said this about the Commanders. He's the 207 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:50.879 Bengals d back. Said this about the Commander's offense. He said, 208 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:54.720 they don't make him. Meeting Jaden Daniels, the rookie quarterback, 209 00:11:55.039 --> 00:11:58.159 they don't make him do a lot nice college offense 210 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:02.840 intermediate stuff. And of course the Commanders after the win, 211 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:06.639 they tweet right back at him. Not bad for a 212 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:10.799 college offense. Jadon Daniels two hundred and fifty four passing yards, 213 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:15.679 two passing touchdowns, and a rushing touchdown, and the Commanders 214 00:12:15.679 --> 00:12:18.519 win over the Bengals. And Chris Canty, a former d 215 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:22.159 lineman in the NFL, now a voice on ESPN Radio. 216 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:28.360 He blasted the Bengals and especially particularly Joe Burrow. Also 217 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:31.799 Bengals management, but he went after Joe Burrow as well. 218 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:34.559 When your quarterback has a chance to go win the game, 219 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:37.559 he's gotta win the game. And Joe Burrow didn't do that, 220 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:41.200 Jaydon Daniels did. That's the problem that I have the 221 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:45.080 Cincinnati Bengals. They have a very very specific formula for 222 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:47.159 how they're gonna have to win games. They're gonna have 223 00:12:47.240 --> 00:12:48.679 to be led by their offense. 224 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:50.639 You know how, I know that, how. 225 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:53.440 They spend money. The Cincinnati Bengals are top five and 226 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:56.159 spend on the offensive side of the ball. Relative to 227 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:59.279 the rest of the league. They're twenty second in cash 228 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:00.559 spind on defense. 229 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:02.679 News flash, the. 230 00:13:02.559 --> 00:13:04.720 Defense for the Bengals ain't gonna be as good as 231 00:13:04.759 --> 00:13:08.279 the offense. The offense is what's gonna have to win today. 232 00:13:08.759 --> 00:13:12.440 Only problem is the Commander's offense with the rookie quarterback 233 00:13:12.559 --> 00:13:18.120 in his third start, won the damn game. I'm tired 234 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:20.679 of all the excuses for Joe Burrow, all the defense, 235 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:23.320 let Joe Burrow, no Joe Burrow, Let Joe Burrow down, 236 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:26.039 Joe Burrow, let the offense down, Joe Burrow, let the 237 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:30.759 team down. Great stats, great stat line. Oh what's amazing 238 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:33.759 is at all of these touchdowns, no interceptions, But what 239 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:36.080 did you do when the game was in the balance? 240 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:38.360 What did you do when the game was on the line. 241 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:40.600 You know the answer is it's not enough. You know how, 242 00:13:40.600 --> 00:13:43.159 I know it's not enough because your team doesn't have 243 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:46.039 a win and you're going into Week four. The damn 244 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:49.720 Carolina Panthers got a win before the Cincinnati Bengals did. 245 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:50.679 Let that sink in. 246 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:54.480 Chris Canty's forgotten more football than I'll ever know. But 247 00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:57.759 it was interesting to me that, first of all, he's 248 00:13:57.919 --> 00:14:00.159 not wrong about the way the Bengals spend money, But 249 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:01.759 you got to spend it on Burrow, you got to 250 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:05.279 spend it on Chase. But this being the ultimate team game, 251 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:07.519 he laid so much and quarterbacks always get most of 252 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:10.000 the blame on Joe Burrow, who threw for more than 253 00:14:10.039 --> 00:14:14.039 three hundred yards, had three touchdown passes. I'm not sure 254 00:14:14.080 --> 00:14:17.519 what he was referring to down the stretch he did 255 00:14:17.559 --> 00:14:22.320 misfire Burrow did, but I just wonder what Canty was 256 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:28.039 seeing as he saw Burrow basically failing to deliver for 257 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:30.360 his team. I think it was a team wide loss, 258 00:14:30.440 --> 00:14:33.240 no question. But quarterback makes the most money, gets the 259 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:36.840 most credit, gets the most blame. Chris Canty not holding 260 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:42.000 back on ESPN Radio. Bengals now zero and three and 261 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:44.799 will they make the playoffs? Who knows? Jaguars are a mess? 262 00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:48.320 We mentioned them earlier. Ray Davis with that touchdown. Another 263 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:52.080 cool stat for the Bills. Damar Hamlin got his first 264 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:55.039 career interception. He's the guy who, of course, the d 265 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:59.279 back who recovered from and survived that terrible hit where 266 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:02.679 he nearly lost his life in Cincinnati during a game. 267 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:06.759 But now the Jaguars, you got to wonder, and the 268 00:15:06.840 --> 00:15:09.279 questions are coming, how much longer are they going to 269 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:12.720 go with Trevor Lawrence? And they pushed all the chips 270 00:15:12.720 --> 00:15:15.120 to the table, to the middle of the table on him, 271 00:15:15.480 --> 00:15:19.679 their quarterback of now and forever more. But it's just 272 00:15:19.720 --> 00:15:23.840 ain't happening right now in Jacksonville. Interesting story out there 273 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:31.159 on NFL players who are surveyed believing they have CTE. That, 274 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:34.519 of course, is the affliction that a lot of pro 275 00:15:34.559 --> 00:15:38.759 football and college football players have had that has led 276 00:15:38.799 --> 00:15:42.559 to early onset of dementia. But one third of former 277 00:15:42.639 --> 00:15:46.000 pro players reported in a new survey they think they 278 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:51.960 have chronic traumatic and sephalopathy or CTE because they feel 279 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:55.559 like they're losing it mentally. This comes from the New 280 00:15:55.600 --> 00:15:59.440 England Journal of Medicine Neurology, and it was a broad 281 00:15:59.519 --> 00:16:05.519 survey indicating that so many players now are educated about 282 00:16:05.559 --> 00:16:11.399 CTE and absolutely positively believe they are suffering from it. 283 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:14.360 Some are I'm sure not sure what you can do 284 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:17.960 about it, but research is ongoing. Coming up next Van 285 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:21.519 Hiles former Kentucky defensive back, played briefly in the NFL 286 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:24.840 and is a real whiz on social media when it 287 00:16:24.879 --> 00:16:27.639 comes to breaking down the Wildcats. That's next on six 288 00:16:27.799 --> 00:16:31.080 thirty WLAP. Joining us on our celebrity highline is one 289 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:33.799 of our favorite guests, one of our favorite people period, 290 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:37.279 and that's Van Hiless, the former Kentucky defensive back. You 291 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:40.399 hear him on Sunday Morning Sports Talk, you hear him 292 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:43.639 Monday Morning Quarterback with Tom Leach, and occasionally here on 293 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:47.000 The Big Blue Insider. How was your weekend, sir? Not 294 00:16:47.080 --> 00:16:49.080 too bad with the way the Wildcats prevailed? 295 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:54.759 I guess, yeah, it was a good weekend. Nice get 296 00:16:54.799 --> 00:16:57.720 that game out the way, so then you have the 297 00:16:57.720 --> 00:17:00.799 rest of the day to watch other people complain and 298 00:17:01.159 --> 00:17:03.840 get mad at their their team and players and coaches. 299 00:17:03.960 --> 00:17:06.039 So it's always nice to get that early start. 300 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:08.319 Yeah, you know, and there are people are kind of 301 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:10.960 complaining about this week it's an eleven am start, well 302 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:13.839 Central time, but you know their bodies will be it'll 303 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:16.200 be a noon start. But I got to think, as 304 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:17.920 a player, did you like to get up and get 305 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:18.559 at them? 306 00:17:20.039 --> 00:17:22.359 Now, as a player, I actually like the night game, 307 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:26.759 so I can see yes, I can see everybody else playing. Oh. 308 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:30.000 As a player, the night game was definitely better. As 309 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:33.200 a fan, the first game is definitely better in my opinion. 310 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:36.119 Yeah, so you didn't mind laying around the hotel or 311 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:37.240 wherever you killed time. 312 00:17:38.359 --> 00:17:42.799 No, for me, unlike some others, probably it was it 313 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:45.119 was time for me to do homework, so I got mine. 314 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:48.480 I got a little advantage of watching some film and 315 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:52.000 then getting some homework done before a game, so I 316 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:54.400 wouldn't be late. You know, after game, you're not gonna 317 00:17:54.400 --> 00:17:56.599 get anything done, so I got mine at them before 318 00:17:56.599 --> 00:17:56.880 the game. 319 00:17:57.000 --> 00:18:01.960 See future Engineers of America. You need before I talk 320 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:07.799 about the Wildcats. Last night Bengals commanders and Jayden Daniels 321 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:10.559 was giving the Bengals fit. The kid rookie out of LSU. 322 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:15.680 You're a Louisiana kid who played in the SEC for Kentucky, obviously, 323 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:19.480 but since you went back home to Louisiana, do you 324 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:21.519 root for LSU? Did you root for this guy? 325 00:18:22.759 --> 00:18:25.519 I rooted for that guy. I do not like LSU 326 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:30.000 at all, not even a little bit so, but I 327 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:33.359 like what he showed me at Arizona State, and I'm 328 00:18:33.400 --> 00:18:36.160 like when I when I saw they make the pick 329 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:41.039 if that kid can adapt to Brian Kelly's offense. I 330 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:43.160 knew he was going to be great because he's going 331 00:18:43.240 --> 00:18:45.599 to be playing with great talent around him. Yes, and 332 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:49.240 when you have neighbors and the guys on that team 333 00:18:49.240 --> 00:18:53.039 from last year, you cannot help but be successful if 334 00:18:53.079 --> 00:18:56.160 you are. He went through adversity, and if you was 335 00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:58.799 able to get that adversity, it's going to make this 336 00:18:58.880 --> 00:19:01.799 transition easy for him because of the talent around him. 337 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:03.960 So yeah, I had every I didn't know he was 338 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:05.680 going to be just good, but I knew it was 339 00:19:05.680 --> 00:19:06.200 gonna be good. 340 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:09.720 He was my choice to win the Heisman because as 341 00:19:09.799 --> 00:19:12.279 college QBS went, I thought he was the best one 342 00:19:12.359 --> 00:19:15.200 and probably the best player. If I had to vote, 343 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:18.400 I wouldn't van. I wouldn't always vote for a quarterback 344 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:20.519 or a guy with offensive said I make an excuse 345 00:19:20.599 --> 00:19:24.960 to vote for defensive guys, but I think this guy 346 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:27.880 was so dynamic. But part of that was because of 347 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:30.319 the way he ran the ball, and I wondered would 348 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:32.960 he be able to really make that translate to the NFL. 349 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:36.079 So far, he has, but we've seen that become a 350 00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:41.079 disaster for other quarterbacks such as Robert Griffin ID who 351 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:43.960 was dynamic but didn't know how to slide. That cost 352 00:19:44.039 --> 00:19:47.720 him his career. But man, this guy is the real deal, isn't. 353 00:19:47.480 --> 00:19:52.400 He He's the real deal. He has the This is 354 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:54.920 when I know it is a real deal because everybody 355 00:19:54.920 --> 00:19:59.240 in college or is athletic. There is no quarterback on 356 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:02.640 all these teams, and all fives are not great accents. 357 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:07.079 When he came to LSU and got the room early, 358 00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:09.480 kind of like how Will Levis came here and got 359 00:20:09.480 --> 00:20:13.400 the room early. When you can command a room without 360 00:20:13.480 --> 00:20:18.240 forcing on someone and players that gravitate to you, that 361 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:21.119 takes you so far. So when you get into the 362 00:20:21.279 --> 00:20:23.559 NFL with grown men, because some of these guys are 363 00:20:23.559 --> 00:20:26.480 thirty plus years old, if they are able to buy 364 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:30.599 into you as a quarterback, that's everything, regardless of how 365 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:32.799 you play, which is the most important thing. But you 366 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:34.759 also got to get the room first. And when he 367 00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:37.319 came to LSU and he got that room, I'm like, Okay, 368 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:38.400 this kid is special. 369 00:20:39.039 --> 00:20:41.920 Well, Rob Vandergreve seems to have won the room from 370 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:46.519 everything we've heard at Kentucky and I interviewed Dane Key 371 00:20:46.599 --> 00:20:49.759 after the game course he had a career day literally, 372 00:20:50.279 --> 00:20:52.640 and he talked about being on the same page and 373 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:55.440 working with his quarterback. So do you like what you've 374 00:20:55.480 --> 00:20:56.519 seen from Vandergrive. 375 00:20:58.920 --> 00:21:01.759 It's getting there, and it's to be expected. When you 376 00:21:01.839 --> 00:21:04.519 haven't played, when you haven't started game since the senior 377 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:07.839 year in high school and you've been in college three years, 378 00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:10.839 it's going to be a transition period. I don't think 379 00:21:10.920 --> 00:21:13.920 his transition period is as bad as some others would say. 380 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:18.000 I think it's to be expected. And this game is 381 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:20.039 going to grow, the same way will Let his game 382 00:21:20.119 --> 00:21:23.359 grew in twenty twenty one, the same way Terry Wilson 383 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:26.359 game grew when he came here in twenty eighteen. You 384 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:28.640 can't expect the world all of these guys the first 385 00:21:28.680 --> 00:21:32.880 couple of games. Unfortunately for Prop, his second and third 386 00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:36.039 game was against two of the best defenses in the SEC. 387 00:21:36.359 --> 00:21:39.119 That's just the unfortunate nature that happened to him with 388 00:21:39.200 --> 00:21:39.759 the scheduling. 389 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:43.400 Yeah, and I knew he knew what he was getting into. 390 00:21:43.559 --> 00:21:46.599 He had played as obviously for Georgia. He had prepared 391 00:21:47.559 --> 00:21:51.119 for South Carolina as a backup. But until you're out 392 00:21:51.200 --> 00:21:53.559 there in the bullets are flying, as they say, you 393 00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:54.519 just don't know, do you. 394 00:21:55.440 --> 00:22:02.240 Yeah, you have no idea, and this offensive line isn't 395 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:05.480 as good as what George's offensive line was, So that's 396 00:22:05.519 --> 00:22:08.720 another thing you got take into consideration. There's a whole 397 00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:11.799 lot of different moving parts, let alone that you have 398 00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:14.759 to run a new offense from a new OC who's 399 00:22:14.799 --> 00:22:17.079 a new OC for the whole team. So no one 400 00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:19.960 has any information for you that can help you study, 401 00:22:20.240 --> 00:22:24.279