1 00:00:28,359 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho. 2 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,119 This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, we're 3 00:00:37,119 --> 00:00:40,520 going to bring you this week's episode of The Big Story. 4 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,039 But first I do want to encourage you. If you're 5 00:00:43,119 --> 00:00:48,200 enjoying the podcast, please follow us using your favorite podcast software. 6 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,000 Also want to promote our other podcast and today I'm 7 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,280 highlighting the Amazing World of Radio, where in honor of 8 00:00:56,439 --> 00:00:59,799 June Lockhart, we have a special episode that will be 9 00:01:00,119 --> 00:01:03,320 least tomorrow and you can check that out as well 10 00:01:03,359 --> 00:01:07,920 as last week's Thanksgiving special at Amazing Dark, Great Detectives 11 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:13,200 dot net. But now, from December seventh, nineteen forty seven, 12 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,400 here is the case of the Final Curtain. 13 00:01:20,079 --> 00:01:22,719 Speaker 2: Hell Mel present The Big Story. 14 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 3: Morning, mister Wilson, Morning, ma'am. 15 00:01:26,879 --> 00:01:27,719 Speaker 4: Will it be today? 16 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:28,599 Speaker 5: I'd like a tube of. 17 00:01:28,519 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: Toothpaste toothpaste, yeah. 18 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 5: Josh, coul cream hu and a pound of arsenic arsenith yeah. 19 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 6: Ray. 20 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 2: I'll have to ask you what it's for man, Well. 21 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 3: Surely it's for Rest. 22 00:01:46,799 --> 00:01:50,359 Speaker 2: The Big Story another in a thrilling series based on 23 00:01:50,439 --> 00:01:54,959 true experiences of newspaper reporters. Tonight, do Albrey, medic of 24 00:01:54,959 --> 00:01:58,439 the Hartford Daily Current goes the Pellmell Award for the 25 00:01:58,519 --> 00:01:59,560 Big Stories. 26 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,039 Speaker 4: Now the exciting and authentic story of the case of 27 00:02:13,159 --> 00:02:14,039 the Final Curtain. 28 00:02:24,319 --> 00:02:28,479 Speaker 2: You are Aubrey Matic, assistant city editor of the Hartford 29 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,639 Daily Current. You're sitting at your desk one afternoon, idly 30 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,360 tapping out a story and reflecting that things are pretty 31 00:02:36,439 --> 00:02:40,319 quiet around the offices of the Current. When suddenly. 32 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:43,199 Speaker 3: Are you a reporter? 33 00:02:44,319 --> 00:02:46,479 Speaker 4: Yes, I just got to talk to you. 34 00:02:46,479 --> 00:02:47,199 Speaker 7: I've got to tell. 35 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 3: You about it. 36 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 4: I did it. It's as if I did it with 37 00:02:50,719 --> 00:02:51,319 my own hands. 38 00:02:51,319 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 7: But I didn't mean to. 39 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 3: Honestly, I didn't. 40 00:02:53,599 --> 00:02:56,599 Speaker 4: I didn't mean to do what. Hey, Look, take it easy. 41 00:02:56,759 --> 00:02:58,680 I told the police, but. 42 00:02:58,680 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: They didn't believe me. 43 00:03:00,199 --> 00:03:01,319 Speaker 4: You've got to believe me. 44 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: You've just got to I've got to talk to. 45 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:04,599 Speaker 4: But I'll take it easy. 46 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 3: If I don't what I. 47 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,319 Speaker 7: Was doing, it would have been different. 48 00:03:07,319 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 8: But you don't. 49 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 4: Too after and then it's too late. Relax, cigarette, Yes, 50 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:20,879 please better know. 51 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: I guess. 52 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,719 Speaker 2: So I suppose you start from the beginning and tell 53 00:03:25,759 --> 00:03:26,520 me what's on your mind. 54 00:03:26,879 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 4: Would you really listen? That's what I'm here for. 55 00:03:31,319 --> 00:03:35,879 Speaker 7: I have a tiny apartment. My father had been visiting 56 00:03:35,919 --> 00:03:39,120 me for a long time. I got back home one 57 00:03:39,199 --> 00:03:41,240 day and I could hear him rehearsing Shakespeare as I 58 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,080 came down the hall. 59 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,159 Speaker 5: Maybe that's what started that. 60 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:45,039 Speaker 3: I hated it. 61 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,639 Speaker 7: He used to be an actor, and he never got 62 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:48,080 over it. 63 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: I opened the hall door. 64 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 9: There's no blur in the mind to suffer the slings 65 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:58,360 and arrows of outrageous that I'm home, or to take 66 00:03:58,479 --> 00:04:04,080 arms against the sea of trouble than by opposing kids. Hello, Lucy, 67 00:04:05,319 --> 00:04:08,919 just brushing up on my diaphragm control. 68 00:04:11,039 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: Dad. 69 00:04:12,719 --> 00:04:14,479 Speaker 7: Won't you ever forget you were an actor? 70 00:04:15,159 --> 00:04:18,079 Speaker 4: Were an actor? My dear, you forget yourself? 71 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,759 Speaker 2: Do I you see from your tone of voice? I 72 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:26,199 judge that I have overstayed my visit with you. Dad. 73 00:04:26,879 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 7: I don't mean to be cruel, but I guess you 74 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,839 have in a way. I can't ever have my friends up. 75 00:04:33,879 --> 00:04:36,240 You're always here quoting things at them. We're telling them 76 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:37,399 about the parts your claim. 77 00:04:37,399 --> 00:04:38,319 Speaker 3: It's just not fair. 78 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,959 Speaker 7: I see, Oh Dad, I don't mean to hurt you. 79 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,360 It's the last thing I wanted to do. 80 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 4: Expecting a letter from my producer. You should have something 81 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:46,839 for me this way, oh Dad. 82 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:48,959 Speaker 10: Dad. 83 00:04:48,959 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 7: In luck, when I was in Windsor. Last week I 84 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,120 stopped in to see that missus. 85 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 4: Taylor for you? And who might I ask? Is that 86 00:04:56,319 --> 00:04:57,399 missus Taylor. 87 00:04:57,399 --> 00:05:01,399 Speaker 3: She runs a home in Windsor for the infern Surely. 88 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 4: You don't pretend to put me in that class. 89 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,639 Speaker 3: That's just what she calls her home. For one thousand dollars. 90 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:08,560 She takes care of. 91 00:05:08,439 --> 00:05:10,399 Speaker 5: You completely, gives you room and board from the day 92 00:05:10,439 --> 00:05:11,480 you get there until. 93 00:05:12,959 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: Well until until LA bring down the final is that it? 94 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 4: Well? 95 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: Yes, are you suggesting that I go to this home 96 00:05:21,439 --> 00:05:22,079 for the infirm? 97 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:22,519 Speaker 4: Loose here? 98 00:05:23,199 --> 00:05:25,319 Speaker 3: That it would be nice for you? 99 00:05:24,639 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 7: You'd have you'd have a nice room of your own, 100 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,439 and I know that every minute you'd had company and being. 101 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,759 Speaker 11: Taken care of them. 102 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 5: If you don't like it there, you don't have to stay, 103 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,319 but you will like it there. 104 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,639 Speaker 4: So this is Missus Taylor's establishment, is it? 105 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 5: Yes? 106 00:06:00,959 --> 00:06:02,759 Speaker 7: Now remember that please be charming to. 107 00:06:02,759 --> 00:06:04,519 Speaker 4: Her, Lucy. 108 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: I have played two packed crowds in a tent in Kansas. 109 00:06:09,439 --> 00:06:12,160 I have done my forty weeks at the Empire Theater 110 00:06:12,319 --> 00:06:17,399 on Broadway. Presidents have watched me act, and you tell 111 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,240 me I must captivate this ill the la proprietress of 112 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:22,480 the Boarding Establishment. 113 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, please here come someone, Yes, missus Taylor, I'm Lucy Wellington. 114 00:06:27,199 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 3: Of course, then this must be your father, it is well, 115 00:06:30,879 --> 00:06:31,639 would you come in. 116 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 4: Charming home you, missus Taylor. 117 00:06:37,639 --> 00:06:38,079 Speaker 3: Thank you. 118 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 5: I hope you'll be happy here with us. 119 00:06:41,759 --> 00:06:42,199 Speaker 4: Yes. 120 00:06:42,399 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 5: Now, I suppose you want to say goodbye to your daughter, 121 00:06:44,439 --> 00:06:46,560 So I'll just leave you folks alone for a minute 122 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,759 or two, and then I'll be back to get you settled. 123 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 3: You just make yourselves at home. 124 00:06:53,879 --> 00:06:59,319 Speaker 7: Well, dad, Lucy, do you think you'll be happy here? 125 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 4: Don't worry about me. 126 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 11: I want you to be happy, dad, Lucy. I can 127 00:07:08,079 --> 00:07:11,439 be honest with myself at times. 128 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 4: My life is over. 129 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 11: I've taken all my bows and curtain calls, and I'm 130 00:07:19,399 --> 00:07:24,079 just sitting in an empty theater waiting for my execute. 131 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,000 This is as good a place as any to wait. 132 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 7: If you don't like, if you'll let me know and 133 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:31,680 I'll bring you back home. 134 00:07:31,959 --> 00:07:32,319 Speaker 4: Thank you. 135 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 7: I I guess i'd better go. 136 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 4: Good night, good night. 137 00:07:41,759 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 11: Parting is such sweet sorrow that I would say good 138 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:53,480 night till it be morrow. Oh I forgot you don't 139 00:07:53,560 --> 00:08:00,800 like to hear me more? Good Bye, Lucy, good Bye 140 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:07,920 God bless you. 141 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 5: Ooh grish is mister Wellington. You startled me standing so 142 00:08:12,959 --> 00:08:14,160 still there by the door. 143 00:08:16,079 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 4: Who it's a statement. 144 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,959 Speaker 2: I I just said goodbye. 145 00:08:24,519 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 4: To my daughter. 146 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 5: Well, saying goodbye to kin folk is always a little 147 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,279 hard on the heartstrings, mister Wellington. 148 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:33,519 Speaker 3: But you'll be happy here. I'm sure everybody is. 149 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 5: Why. Nobody ever leaves my home, except of course when 150 00:08:38,759 --> 00:08:40,200 they die. 151 00:08:55,360 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 10: Mister Wellington, Who is it me, Luke Briggs? I come 152 00:09:00,639 --> 00:09:01,960 by a game of cribbage. 153 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 4: Come in, Come in, my friend, Thank you kindly. I 154 00:09:08,399 --> 00:09:09,919 see you got the cards out. 155 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's just the thing to make the time pass. 156 00:09:14,879 --> 00:09:17,360 It doesn't seem as if I'd been here at missus 157 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,039 Taylor's for almost two months, does it. 158 00:09:20,399 --> 00:09:24,159 Speaker 10: Sty'll like it here, of course, not looking support as 159 00:09:24,159 --> 00:09:25,360 you might, just. 160 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:30,039 Speaker 4: A little indigestion, I see. Mister Wellington. 161 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,519 Speaker 3: You got to get out of here. 162 00:09:34,279 --> 00:09:35,279 Speaker 4: What are you talking about? 163 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 10: You paid your thousand dollars in advance. 164 00:09:38,919 --> 00:09:41,639 Speaker 4: You got to get out of here. What do you mean? 165 00:09:41,919 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 10: Missus Grumman paid her thousand dollars in advance. She died 166 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:46,840 last night. 167 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,639 Speaker 4: It took her away just before SunUp. 168 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 10: Well, I'm sorry to know Pete Dawes paid his thousand 169 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:54,360 dollars in advance. 170 00:09:55,039 --> 00:09:58,279 Speaker 4: He died last week. He took him away at midnight. 171 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,440 That comes to everyone, not like it does in this house. 172 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,000 When it's natural. 173 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,879 Speaker 10: It comes in its time, and it comes soft death. 174 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:12,080 Don't care whether you pay a thousand dollars to Missus Taylor. 175 00:10:11,759 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 3: In advance or not. 176 00:10:13,039 --> 00:10:15,879 Speaker 4: What are you driving at I'm safe. 177 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:19,399 Speaker 10: I pay my room board for the week. It's no 178 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,679 proper to Missus Taylor for me to die early. 179 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,879 Speaker 4: But with them that pays in advance, you're crazy list. 180 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 10: Late at night, I can hear horses hoofs coming clop 181 00:10:32,399 --> 00:10:33,480 clop clop. 182 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:34,519 Speaker 4: Up the dirt road. 183 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,159 Speaker 10: I can hear the creak of a wagon as they 184 00:10:37,159 --> 00:10:41,840 back it up against the porch, and footsteps carrying something heavy. 185 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,320 I can hear that something heavy thud into the wagon, 186 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,080 and then the horse's hoofs start up the road again, 187 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:55,639 softer and softer to there's nothing more to hear with 188 00:10:55,799 --> 00:11:01,159 the hooto, And then I know somebody else's died and 189 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,039 they're taken him away in the night. 190 00:11:03,639 --> 00:11:08,799 Speaker 4: Stop it, you're next on this is Terror's list. 191 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,759 Speaker 10: I'm telling you, what makes you say that I've seen 192 00:11:11,799 --> 00:11:17,960 it happen. First a special lemonade, a particular pie made 193 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:23,120 special for someone, and then the might of indigestion, and 194 00:11:23,159 --> 00:11:27,919 then yeah, of course bos coming up the road. 195 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:37,399 Speaker 4: Stop it, stop it stopping a fool. I'm sorry, I 196 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,000 seem to be a little upset to see me. Suppose 197 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,200 we leave our game until tomorrow night, if that's the 198 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:45,279 way you want. 199 00:11:45,039 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 11: It, yes, because I I'd like to lie down for 200 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:48,440 a while. 201 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,879 Speaker 4: I think i'd like to go to sleep. Mm hmm. 202 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 10: If you don't like this place, let me know, let 203 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,240 me know, and I'll bring you home. 204 00:12:12,519 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 9: But it's just a touch of indigestion, just indigestion, just 205 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:18,080 to touch. 206 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 4: You. Got to get out of here. You've got to 207 00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:25,080 get out of you out, Okay. 208 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 5: Nobody leaves my home. Nobody ever leaves my home except 209 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,759 the course when they die. 210 00:12:34,159 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 10: You know, I can tell somebody who's died. I can 211 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,399 hear the horses who've shown the road case. 212 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 3: But they don't leave unless they die. 213 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,639 Speaker 5: Come back, come back, come back this spring first, just 214 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,120 as the springs there don't, don't do And stif I 215 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,799 made it special for you, just. 216 00:12:59,799 --> 00:13:03,159 Speaker 4: For you, No, no. 217 00:13:02,159 --> 00:13:06,919 Speaker 3: No, mister Wellington, wake up. 218 00:13:08,159 --> 00:13:15,399 Speaker 4: Oh missus Taylor. Oh, I must have had a nightmare. 219 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,759 Speaker 5: I should say, you must have just a hoogile outside 220 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:20,279 the window. 221 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,919 Speaker 3: Here, drink this. It's just a sedative. I fixed it 222 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:26,759 special for you. 223 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 4: I don't want to take it away. 224 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 3: It will save you here. Now take the glass, drink 225 00:13:31,919 --> 00:13:32,360 it down. 226 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:41,759 Speaker 5: That's it now, then, mister Wellington, you won't have to 227 00:13:41,799 --> 00:13:43,399 worry anymore. 228 00:14:05,919 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 3: Miss Wellington, this is missus Taylor calling. 229 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,519 Speaker 5: I'm sorry to bother you this time of night, but 230 00:14:11,919 --> 00:14:13,720 it looks like your father's took bear. 231 00:14:14,519 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no need to. 232 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,279 Speaker 5: Come tonight, but I think you better come visit him 233 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:20,279 tomorrow morning. 234 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,039 Speaker 2: We'll be back in just a moment with tonight's big story. 235 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,480 Now we return you to our narrator, Bob Sloan and 236 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:52,759 tonight's big story. You, Aubrey Maddock, Assistant City Editor, Sit 237 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,600 at your desk at the Heart for Daily Current, and 238 00:14:55,639 --> 00:14:59,279 listen intently to the half hysterical girl. And she sobs 239 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,440 out a weird in an unbelievable story. Finally, she says, 240 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:06,000 that's about the. 241 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 3: Whole of it, mister Maddock. 242 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 7: When I got to the home the next morning, Dad 243 00:15:10,039 --> 00:15:13,440 was dead. He died just ten minutes after missus Taylor 244 00:15:13,519 --> 00:15:14,279 coll What. 245 00:15:14,279 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 4: Did she give as the cause of death? 246 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 3: Gastric ulcers cause. 247 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:18,879 Speaker 7: He was poisoned. 248 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 3: He never had a sign of any kind of alswer. 249 00:15:21,399 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 4: He was poisoned by that horrible woman, and I made 250 00:15:23,399 --> 00:15:24,120 him go there. 251 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,559 Speaker 2: Let me ask you just one question, Miss Wellington. You 252 00:15:26,639 --> 00:15:29,320 outlined a very complete story of just how your father died. 253 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:30,679 Speaker 4: How do you know all these things? 254 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:33,799 Speaker 7: The last time I saw Dad at the home, he 255 00:15:33,919 --> 00:15:36,080 was so frightened underneath. I should have known then, I 256 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,480 should have taken him away then, but I didn't know 257 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:39,080 he's dead. 258 00:15:39,159 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 2: Well, that doesn't answer my question. You told me how 259 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,759 he died. You even told me what he dreamed. How 260 00:15:43,799 --> 00:15:44,960 can you possibly know all this? 261 00:15:45,639 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 7: Well, I don't actually know it, I suppose, but it 262 00:15:50,639 --> 00:15:51,720 could have been something like that. 263 00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 3: It must have been something like that. 264 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 4: Mm hmm. 265 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: Well, if so, it's the biggest, hottest lead on the 266 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,639 story I've ever gotten. But if not, it's most malicious, 267 00:16:00,679 --> 00:16:02,480 evil piece of slander I've ever heard. And does a 268 00:16:02,519 --> 00:16:04,039 newspaper man, I guess it's up to me to find 269 00:16:04,039 --> 00:16:04,639 out which it is. 270 00:16:04,799 --> 00:16:05,559 Speaker 3: What are you going to do? 271 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,399 Speaker 4: I'm going up to Windsor to take a look around. 272 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,759 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, something I can do for you. You own 273 00:16:20,799 --> 00:16:22,799 this drug store? Yes, I do get most of the 274 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,000 local trade here in Windsor. 275 00:16:24,159 --> 00:16:24,879 Speaker 4: Sure, do you. 276 00:16:24,879 --> 00:16:25,679 Speaker 12: Sell poison here? 277 00:16:26,799 --> 00:16:28,399 Speaker 2: Why do you want to know? I'm very interested in 278 00:16:28,399 --> 00:16:31,279 the sale of poison in Windsor during the past few years. Well, 279 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,039 I don't see the state require every druggist to keep 280 00:16:34,039 --> 00:16:36,679 a poison register showing who bought what kind of poison, when, 281 00:16:36,759 --> 00:16:37,240 and for what. 282 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 4: Yes, let's see it. Who are you AnyWho? Just a 283 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:45,720 guy who's interested in poisons? Where's the register right here? Thanks? 284 00:16:48,519 --> 00:16:49,919 August September. 285 00:16:49,919 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: October October twenty first, Missus Beatrice Taylor six answers of 286 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,799 arsenic use for rats and mice. That's Missus Taylor or 287 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,519 their home out on prospect. 288 00:17:01,759 --> 00:17:02,159 Speaker 4: Uh huh. 289 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 2: February seventeenth, Missus Beatrice Taylor thirteen ounces of. 290 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,319 Speaker 4: Arsenic use for bugs and mice. 291 00:17:10,039 --> 00:17:13,839 Speaker 2: And again, May twenty sixth, Missus Beatrice Taylor ten ounces 292 00:17:13,839 --> 00:17:15,960 of arsenic acid use for rats and mice. 293 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 4: Ten ounces on the twenty sixth of May. 294 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 2: Look here, isn't this quite a bit of poison for 295 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,160 any one person to buy? No, can't say so. Most 296 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,759 of the folks around here by arsenic poison for exterminating purposes. 297 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,079 I see, well, just the same. I think I'll go 298 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:35,559 and have a few words with missus Taylor. 299 00:17:35,799 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 4: Just for the record, mister. 300 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:51,079 Speaker 5: Maddock, I can't tell you how glad I am. 301 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:51,559 Speaker 3: That you came. 302 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 4: Why is that, Missus Taylor. 303 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 5: Well, these rumors that one of my borders was poisoned 304 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,279 and naturally upset me. It's nonsense, of course, but still 305 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,160 talk if that hurts the reputation of a nursing home. 306 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 4: Did you think of that when you bought the poison? 307 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 3: What do you mean? 308 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:06,759 Speaker 2: I mean that I've been downe at the local drug 309 00:18:06,799 --> 00:18:09,240 store and find that you purchased pounds of arsenic enough 310 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,440 to poison a lot of borders. 311 00:18:10,839 --> 00:18:11,559 Speaker 3: Mercy. 312 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,039 Speaker 5: You don't think I bought that for anything except rats 313 00:18:14,079 --> 00:18:14,599 and mice? 314 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:15,079 Speaker 4: Do you? 315 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,759 Speaker 2: What should I think? Maybe you use it for rats 316 00:18:17,799 --> 00:18:21,039 and mice. But Jay Wellington died of a gastric ulcer 317 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,680 just four days after your last arsenic purchase. 318 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,079 Speaker 3: You're not serious about this. 319 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 4: I'm very serious, mister Maddock. 320 00:18:28,759 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 5: We're both intelligent folks. We can look at this whole 321 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,440 nonsensical story intelligently. Now, Now, if you were setting out 322 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,880 to poison somebody. Would you buy the poison at a 323 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,519 local drug store? Would you buy it where everybody knows 324 00:18:40,519 --> 00:18:43,519 you by name, and where everybody knows everybody else's business. 325 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,279 Speaker 3: Well, not if you'd steal. 326 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,039 Speaker 5: It or get it some underhanded way, if you were 327 00:18:48,039 --> 00:18:50,240 going to use it for murder, now, wouldn't you? 328 00:18:51,079 --> 00:18:54,559 Speaker 2: I suppose so. Of course, I've only heard miss Wellington's 329 00:18:54,559 --> 00:18:55,200 side of the story. 330 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,039 Speaker 5: That for child is half out of her mind with 331 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,480 grief and guilt because she didn't get. 332 00:18:59,279 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 3: Here in time to be with her father at the end. 333 00:19:01,559 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 4: She was terribly upset. 334 00:19:02,839 --> 00:19:05,559 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, she was a mite harsh with him from 335 00:19:05,559 --> 00:19:06,279 time to time. 336 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:07,759 Speaker 3: That praised on her mind. 337 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,559 Speaker 5: Now that he's gone, I can understand how she feels, 338 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,599 or child, Lord knows I. 339 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 3: Try to be forgiving. 340 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 4: She's very bitter. 341 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 3: About you, mister Maddick. Would you like to know why? Yes, 342 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,839 all right, I'll tell you. She claims her. 343 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 5: Father had five hundred dollars when he came to the 344 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,759 home and she thinks I've stolen it. Why because she 345 00:19:28,759 --> 00:19:31,480 can't find it with her father's things, fighting over that 346 00:19:31,519 --> 00:19:35,039 poor soul's grave for money too. He didn't have a cent, 347 00:19:35,759 --> 00:19:37,799 and if he did, I'd never touch a thing that 348 00:19:37,799 --> 00:19:38,680 didn't belong to me. 349 00:19:39,599 --> 00:19:43,079 Speaker 2: You're being very fair, Missus Taylor knows I try to be. 350 00:19:44,599 --> 00:19:46,839 Speaker 5: About times. It does seem like I have more than 351 00:19:46,839 --> 00:19:47,759 my share of trouble. 352 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 4: Well, I'm sorry to have added to it, Missus Taylor. 353 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:51,799 Speaker 3: Oh that's quite all right. 354 00:19:51,839 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 5: Mister Maddick, thank you for taking bothered dropping here. 355 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 2: Oh, there's no bother at all, man, I have another 356 00:19:58,480 --> 00:19:59,960 visit to pay in Windsor anyhow. 357 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:12,759 Speaker 4: Mmmm. This is the office of the Windsor County Clerk. 358 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,279 Where's the clerk right here? You me? 359 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm Aubrey Madic of the Heartfred Daily Cary. 360 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 4: I've been meaning to talk to one of you newspaper people. 361 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,839 Speaker 11: Well, your paper last February paid up for the US 362 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,440 to then come last April. I was away for two 363 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,759 weeks and it seemed me or to get my money 364 00:20:29,759 --> 00:20:31,039 back for those two weeks. 365 00:20:31,079 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: Well, look, pop, I'll take it up personally with the 366 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:33,720 circulation manager. 367 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 11: But right now, right neighborly of your young fellow life 368 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:36,599 the paper. 369 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 4: Fine, I'm glad to hear it. 370 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 11: What farm articles you got? Good recipies? My wife always 371 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:43,640 looks for them. Recipe. 372 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you keep the death certificates for Windsor County here, 373 00:20:48,759 --> 00:20:49,640 sure do well? 374 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 4: Then, for the love repeat, can I see them? 375 00:20:52,079 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 11: It's all shouting about, Sure you see them. 376 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,279 Speaker 2: You come through the endless certificates and just on a chance, 377 00:21:05,319 --> 00:21:07,440 you make notes of all the death that took place 378 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,440 at Missus Taylor's home, and you do a little extra 379 00:21:10,599 --> 00:21:13,480 checking and what do you find makes. 380 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 4: You sit up straight and whistle? What's up? Younger? My 381 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,839 hair pop up on end? 382 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,279 Speaker 2: Hey, sorry, no time for chit chat now here? 383 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 4: Where are you going with them? 384 00:21:24,279 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 2: The heart for chief of police? You do take the 385 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,240 certificates to the police chief later. At first, you do 386 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,920 a little checking with some of Missus Taylor's neighbors and 387 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,400 former borders. You visit the relatives of some of the deceased, 388 00:21:44,759 --> 00:21:48,000 and then, armed with explosive information, you take the death 389 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,480 certificates and your big story to the Hartford Chief of Police. 390 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,079 I didn't make too much of the arsenic purchases at first, Chief. 391 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,000 Poison might have been for rets in spite of Jay 392 00:21:57,039 --> 00:21:59,920 Wellington's sudden death just four days after the last purchase, 393 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,799 could be coincident. Sure, yeah, that's what I thought. Missus 394 00:22:03,839 --> 00:22:07,279 Taylor told a very convincing story maybe a little too convincing. 395 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,160 So just on a hunch, I dropped in at the 396 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,240 college clerk's office and I, well, take a. 397 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,319 Speaker 4: Look at these statistics. 398 00:22:13,519 --> 00:22:15,839 Speaker 2: What are they? The number of deaths at the Taylor 399 00:22:15,839 --> 00:22:19,400 Home during the past five years forty eight, eh, forty 400 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,519 eight not surprising? What do you mean that's an awful 401 00:22:22,519 --> 00:22:24,920 out of deaths? Matic gets a home for all people, 402 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,519 A death rates bound to be a that's where you're wrong. 403 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,000 I checked the figures on the Hertford Old People's Home 404 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,680 just to compare. You know how much bigger the Hertford 405 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,799 Home is than Missus Taylor's about five times as big, 406 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,839 six times as big, and yet the number of deaths 407 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,640 is the same in both homes, forty eight in five years. 408 00:22:42,759 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 4: How about that doesn't look good? It isn't. And here's 409 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,160 another insting point. 410 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 2: At least twenty of the deaths Missus Taylor reported looked 411 00:22:50,759 --> 00:22:53,759 highly suspicious, and each of those twenty boarders were of 412 00:22:53,759 --> 00:22:56,480 the class that paid one thousand dollars outright for board 413 00:22:56,559 --> 00:22:59,319 until death. I checked the others and found out that 414 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,000 the week to week boy have held to a normal 415 00:23:01,039 --> 00:23:04,279 death rate. Now does that or does that not look 416 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,480 like mass murder. It does, but no proof. We'll take 417 00:23:08,519 --> 00:23:10,680 care of that autompsy exactly. 418 00:23:11,079 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 4: We'll get in touch with you. 419 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 3: Why, mister Madick. 420 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 2: Yes, miss Taylor, and this is the heart for the 421 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,920 chief of police with me. We'd like to ask you 422 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:31,680 some questions. 423 00:23:31,759 --> 00:23:33,799 Speaker 3: Why surely you come in. 424 00:23:35,839 --> 00:23:38,319 Speaker 5: If you' just come into the parlor, I haven't dusted yet, 425 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,359 be making a special dessert for one of my borders. 426 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 3: Sit down, won't you? 427 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 2: Missus Taylor? The daughter of one of your deceased patients 428 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,039 reported some suspicious facts about her father's death. 429 00:23:49,519 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 3: Oh you mean that Wellington girl again? 430 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 4: What about it, Missus Taylor? 431 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,319 Speaker 5: Like I told mister Mattick here, I'm anxious to clear 432 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,480 up all these false rumors. So you just ask me 433 00:23:59,519 --> 00:24:01,920 any question didn't you want, and I'll do my best 434 00:24:02,039 --> 00:24:02,839 to answer them. 435 00:24:02,799 --> 00:24:05,279 Speaker 2: All right, Missus Taylor, how do you account for the 436 00:24:05,279 --> 00:24:08,039 fact that you bought poison in large quantities? 437 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 3: Like I said before, it was for rats and mice. 438 00:24:10,559 --> 00:24:12,759 Speaker 2: What about the manner in which you removed human bodies 439 00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:15,079 from the home during the night. Miss Wellington and others 440 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,680 have stated that bodies were gone before their relatives arrived here. 441 00:24:17,839 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 3: Well, I like to get the body out of the house. 442 00:24:19,519 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 5: As soon as death occurs, it disturbs the other borders. 443 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 2: And why was it that the highest death rate was 444 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,519 amongst those who paid you one thousand dollars. 445 00:24:26,279 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 4: Outright for board. 446 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,599 Speaker 5: I can't imagine where you got such an idea. 447 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: Why were bodies shipped secretly out of the county without 448 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:32,359 a permit? 449 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 5: Why? 450 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,599 Speaker 2: Why did an autopsy on Jay Wellington and another one 451 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,200 of your borders show that both died of poison and 452 00:24:38,319 --> 00:24:39,640 not natural causes. 453 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,839 Speaker 3: An autopsy? You did an autopsy? 454 00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 4: Come along, missus Taylor. I have a warrant for your arrest. 455 00:24:51,759 --> 00:24:53,039 Speaker 3: You can't prove anything. 456 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,519 Speaker 5: That girl talked too much, but you can't prove anything 457 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:05,640 you can't read. I was too careful. I had an answer, 458 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:08,279 you'll see. 459 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,799 Speaker 3: I'll hang before I admit I did it. 460 00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:16,039 Speaker 4: You're probably right, Missus Taylor. You hang. 461 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 2: In just a moment, We'll read you a telegram from 462 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,440 Aubrey Maddock of the Hartford Daily Current with the final 463 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:44,200 details of tonight's big story. Now we read you that 464 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,119 telegram from Aubrey Maddock of the Hertford Daily Current. Poisoner 465 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,000 in Tonight's Big Story was convicted of first degree murder However, 466 00:25:50,039 --> 00:25:52,119 an appeal was granted and the conviction was changed to 467 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,279 second degree given a life prison sentence. She was subsequently 468 00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:58,359 transferred to the Hospital for the Insane of Middletown. Many 469 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,319 thanks for the Knight's pell Mell Awards, Mattock, The makers 470 00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:03,799 of Pellmell Famous Cigarettes are proud to have named you 471 00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:05,960 the winner of the pell Mell five hundred dollars Award 472 00:26:06,039 --> 00:26:07,960 for notable service in the field of Journalism. 473 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 12: Listen again next week, same time, same station, when pell 474 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,240 Mell Famous Cigarettes will present another Big Story, A big 475 00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:18,400 story from the pages of the Des Moines Tribune Byeline 476 00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:22,640 Russell Wilson, A big story that reached its climax with 477 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:32,480 an automobile rhyme that ended in death Gosh. 478 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 2: The Big Story is produced by Bernard J. Parkter and 479 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,160 directed by Harry Ingram, with music by Vladimisselenski. Tonight's program 480 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,200 was written by Gail Ingram. Your narrator was Bob Sloan, 481 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,000 and Less Tremayne played the part of Aubrey Mattock. All 482 00:26:45,079 --> 00:26:48,119 names in Tonight's story except that of mister Mattock, were fictitious, 483 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,240 but the dramatization was based on a true and authentic case. 484 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,240 This is Ernest Chappell speaking for the makers of Pellmell 485 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,599 Famous Cigarettes and reminding you of the ideal of Christmas 486 00:26:57,599 --> 00:27:01,920 gift pell Mell Famous Cigarettes in their special holiday cotton. 487 00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:22,559 Speaker 13: This is NBC, the National Broadcasting Company. 488 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,799 Speaker 1: Welcome back. So first of all, in addition to Less Tremaine, 489 00:27:27,839 --> 00:27:32,599 the rest of the cast included Alice ron Hart, Ted Osbourne, 490 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:38,119 Agnes Young, John Gibson and Will gear. Now, as to 491 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,240 the story, I do think the fact that Lucy imagined 492 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:46,599 her father's death scene, including a dream, showed that she'd 493 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,039 gotten the gene for dramatics, although Haunch turned out to 494 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,279 be right. Now, once again, I do turn to the 495 00:27:55,319 --> 00:28:00,559 story behind the Big Story website for full detail as 496 00:28:00,599 --> 00:28:04,319 to the real story of this crime. And I'm indebted 497 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:10,480 to doctor Joe Webb and researchers are hard work on 498 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,759 all of these cases. This one was probably one of 499 00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:20,759 the easier ones to research as it's a rather famous one. 500 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:27,720 This one came from nineteen fifteen, was when the investigation occurred, 501 00:28:27,759 --> 00:28:33,920 and the perpetrator was Amy Archer Gilligan, and she was 502 00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:38,319 caught when a reporter started looking into it. Aside from 503 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,720 some of the specific dramatic details. The basics of the 504 00:28:42,759 --> 00:28:47,079 story are pretty sound, and as implied by the amount 505 00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:51,359 that she bought, she used a massive amount of poison. 506 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:56,119 According to the autopsy, what they found was that there 507 00:28:56,279 --> 00:28:59,759 was enough poison in one of the victims to kill 508 00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:05,279 six men. Even by the science of nineteen fifteen, that's 509 00:29:05,359 --> 00:29:09,519 going to be caught. Missus Gilligan didn't have some clever 510 00:29:09,759 --> 00:29:13,799 scientific method to conceal her crime. Her bet was on 511 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,039 no one suspecting desks in a nursing home and no 512 00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:23,039 one expecting innocent old her. These particular killings actually would 513 00:29:23,079 --> 00:29:27,960 become the inspiration for the dark comedy play Arsenic and 514 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,799 Old Lace, which had a successful screen adaptation, as well 515 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,359 as a few radio adaptations as well. 516 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,359 Speaker 6: The story may. 517 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: Also have been the inspiration of a Yours Truly Johnny 518 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,559 Dollar episode with a very similar plot. Now we turn 519 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,039 to listener comments and feedback, and we have a couple 520 00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:50,960 on the Bobby Sacks kid from beyone, and we start 521 00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:55,759 on Patreon where Emmit comments, that was a really gripping story, 522 00:29:55,799 --> 00:29:58,720 but I must admit the ending nearly knocked me off 523 00:29:58,759 --> 00:30:01,839 my chair. It's a how the tenor of the times 524 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,000 affected the retelling of this crime. After all, forgiveness was 525 00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:09,200 the theme after the war, right up to the early fifties. 526 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,000 Around that time, radio detectives began to find fault with 527 00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:17,799 turnstile justice that seemed to be content to blame society 528 00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:21,160 for everything. It's just one more thing that makes listening 529 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,960 to these stories so rewarding. History can't hide between the lines. 530 00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:29,319 And while you can probably find exceptions both ways, I 531 00:30:29,359 --> 00:30:34,319 think there's definite merit to that description of the overall 532 00:30:34,759 --> 00:30:37,960 tone of old time radio. And we have a comment 533 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,240 from Mechanics sixty six, who writes, the more interesting thing 534 00:30:42,319 --> 00:30:46,759 to me about Dorothy Kilgallon is the circumstances surrounding her 535 00:30:46,839 --> 00:30:51,400 suicide or accidental overdose while investigating the death of Jay 536 00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:55,799 Kay very similar to the death of Marilyn Monroe. In fact, 537 00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,920 there's a book about it, Collateral Damage, and that's Mark Shaw. 538 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,599 Now there's a subtitle. I'm not reading it. For one thing, 539 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,480 it's just way too long to remember. But mister Shaw 540 00:31:08,599 --> 00:31:12,799 wrote Collateral Damage and also wrote another book on the subject, 541 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,519 The Reporter Who Knew Too Much. I'm not going to 542 00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:19,240 go deeper into it than that, but I appreciate the 543 00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:24,319 comment and I did not know that anyone had put 544 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,720 Dorothy Kilgallen in that situation or that she had. And 545 00:31:29,839 --> 00:31:32,759 what you can confirm whatever you believe about her death, 546 00:31:32,839 --> 00:31:37,759 that she did interview Jack Ruby and was investigating it 547 00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:41,000 and didn't buy the official story. Oh always good to 548 00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:43,839 learn something new. Thanks so much, appreciate the comment. Now 549 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,240 it's time to thank our Patreon supporter of the day, 550 00:31:46,319 --> 00:31:49,559 and I want to go ahead and thank Paul Patreon supporter, 551 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,000 since Mark's twenty twenty four currently supporting the podcast at 552 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,279 the Shawmus level of four dollars more per month. Thanks 553 00:31:56,319 --> 00:31:58,400 so much for your support, Paul. That will do it 554 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,559 for today. If you're enjoying the podcasts, please follow us 555 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,519 using your favorite podcast software and be sure to rate 556 00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:08,880 and review the podcast wherever you download it from. We'll 557 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,119 be back next Tuesday with another episode of the Big Story. 558 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,480 But join us back here tomorrow for Broadways my beat. 559 00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:20,039 Speaker 6: Where have yourself a wicker and take a load. 560 00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:23,359 Speaker 8: Off for the place you have here, Milton. 561 00:32:23,319 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 14: Wait till you see the floor show Danny Gotta dame here. 562 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,319 Speaker 6: It does a routine and a bit. 563 00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:29,759 Speaker 8: Of hot col melt. 564 00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 6: Do you try the authentic scene? Yet? 565 00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 14: You like fish I got called whoma nuka nuko wah. 566 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:45,599 That could set you crazy. You sit still, I'll slice your. 567 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,119 Speaker 8: Some from the middle, Sit down, melt. 568 00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 6: All right, So I'm sitting. I'm sitting. 569 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,359 Speaker 8: So about a bartender here, Frank Dunn. 570 00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 6: Frankly it showed up yet tonight he commits something. 571 00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:03,319 Speaker 8: He's been murdered. 572 00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 6: Kiss met pure, kiss met fate. 573 00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 8: Danny the way of the department figures it took a murderer. 574 00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 4: To do it. 575 00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:16,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess how do you go out? 576 00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:17,079 Speaker 8: Shot? 577 00:33:18,359 --> 00:33:21,559 Speaker 14: Like I say, kiss met? What are you talking about? 578 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,559 A guy like Frank ittt figured it just don't make 579 00:33:25,599 --> 00:33:26,119 me surprise. 580 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 8: Come on, they'll talk to me. What's on your mind? 581 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,079 Speaker 14: Well, he said, smiles with the tall cool ones. When 582 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,279 Frank wiped the bar in front of a female patronesss 583 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:41,759 it had a meeting all its own personality. Keep talking, well, Danny, 584 00:33:41,799 --> 00:33:46,640 a guy like him, Well, dame would be embarrassed leaving 585 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,839 less than a finn or a phone number. 586 00:33:48,599 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 6: For a tip. 587 00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 8: Did he cause any trouble here? 588 00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 4: Frank? 589 00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:54,839 Speaker 6: No, inoperator with a head on. 590 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 14: Him, Wait until the mail Lescott was occupied elsewhere. Then 591 00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:03,000 well Frank would drop a small onion in a cocktail 592 00:34:03,079 --> 00:34:07,359 glass in such a way that patronesses would leave teethmugs 593 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:07,880 on the bar. 594 00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:11,199 Speaker 1: Hope you'll be with us then in the meantime, send 595 00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:15,360 your comments to Box thirteen at Great Detectives dot net. 596 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,960 Follow us on Twitter, Radio Detectives. Check us out on Instagram, 597 00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:24,079 Instagram dot com, slash Great Detectives from Boise, Idaho. This 598 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,679 is your host, Adam Graham signing off.