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<v Speaker 1>They welcome back to Eye of the Ball hero Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports fourteen fifty MCI Rivera, your Troy, your one, and

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<v Speaker 1>your Ray.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta breaking news now.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Eye on the.

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<v Speaker 4>Ball breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty eight.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, got some breaking news for today, starting off

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<v Speaker 5>with a quick update with the first four game. We

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<v Speaker 5>got Mount Saint Mary's and American tied at twenty two

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<v Speaker 5>in the back half of the first half.

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<v Speaker 6>So that, I mean, that's gonna be interesting. I think those.

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<v Speaker 1>Are more even teams, right because they're like last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Last night's game North Carolina s San Diego State. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was a runaway even before the game started

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<v Speaker 1>because if North Carolina, it's like one of those If

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona plays well, they should do well. But the think

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<v Speaker 1>about it, they have to play the other team. Like

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<v Speaker 1>last night, if y, if North North Carolina plays well,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll they should.

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<v Speaker 2>Win that game. And they played out of their mind

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<v Speaker 2>with a lot to prove.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean they looked like a team ready, ready

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<v Speaker 7>to make a run and angry about everybody questioned they

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<v Speaker 7>should be in right?

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<v Speaker 2>Who they playing out Memphis? Who they playing?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, miss Olmos.

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<v Speaker 2>That should be fun.

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<v Speaker 8>That should be the game. Yeah, they could win that

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<v Speaker 8>one too, I think so. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Also, the other game was oh man, it was an

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<v Speaker 5>nobody went all the way down to the end.

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<v Speaker 1>The play, the play itself was it was won. I

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<v Speaker 1>had one of those plays you put you were way

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<v Speaker 1>before you were born, the macshot where they threw it

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<v Speaker 1>from under the under the basket from this end to

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<v Speaker 1>that end. They fumbled it and McMillan picked it up

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<v Speaker 1>and put it in just like yesterday, right, just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of found the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>And put it in.

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<v Speaker 8>Was that eighty eight or eighty nine?

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<v Speaker 1>It was eighty eighty six eighty seven, so okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>could have been even before that eighty six.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>And other tournament news.

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<v Speaker 5>Funny enough, Pima is advancing to the quarterfinals after ninety

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<v Speaker 5>nine to sixty five win against Sunny Niagara and they're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna be playing the eight seed Davidson Davy Community College.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, actually both teams have the women did.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the women's did too, and they're gonna play Lincoln

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<v Speaker 5>Land Community College tonight.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, nobody really talks about Pima athletics, but Pima basketball,

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<v Speaker 7>for both men's and women's they have been so consistent

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<v Speaker 7>over the last several years Peabody and coach uh I

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<v Speaker 7>can't remember. Why am I not getting off the name?

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<v Speaker 7>You know what I'm trying to think of the women's

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<v Speaker 7>basketball coach Old House do a terrific job there, well

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<v Speaker 7>respected coaches, just a tremendous job there.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, I mean, and then the men's team hasn't lost.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think all year. No, I think I think

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<v Speaker 5>they're like thirty three or something. So that's I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>could be wrong, but yeah, that's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Bringing it back to more yo a stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>The baseball team beat Kansas yesterday, so eight and oh

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<v Speaker 5>or eight two to oh, sorry, and they're thirteen at home,

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<v Speaker 5>thirteen and zero at home. Now, they had a nine

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<v Speaker 5>game homestretch, one undefeated in that too.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, Kansas was playing high level, high level baseball

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<v Speaker 7>coming into that series. I believe they won like seven

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<v Speaker 7>in a row before a loss here and there. But

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<v Speaker 7>look at the Big twelve, some good baseball being played,

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<v Speaker 7>and yet no respect. I don't think any Big twelve

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<v Speaker 7>team ranked yet in the eight people or the rankings don't.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not ap but you know what I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 7>the national rankings, and Arizona looks like they're on the

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<v Speaker 7>cups of that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they've been ever since that tournament in Texas. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>they've been kind of on a roll.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think they were suspected to be good, good.

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<v Speaker 8>In terms of for this conference. I think so.

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<v Speaker 7>They're ranked in the top twenty five to start the year.

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<v Speaker 7>Again that tournament. Early on in the season, they struggled mightily,

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<v Speaker 7>found their way back. And you know, this is a

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<v Speaker 7>big twelve conference. Arizona, Kansas playing well, Oklahoma State playing well.

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<v Speaker 7>Outside that, there's not the depth that there was in

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, keeping it going. Softball moved up into the ten spot.

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<v Speaker 5>They were eleven last week, moved up into ten. They

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<v Speaker 5>played GCU tonight and then have the ASU series over

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<v Speaker 5>the weekend up in Tempe. So it'll be pretty pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>Some more news that we kind of know about already.

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<v Speaker 5>The girls start their tournament tomorrow here against NAU and

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<v Speaker 5>the w B I T, which I found out is

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<v Speaker 5>actually different from.

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<v Speaker 6>The w n I T. It's told the two different terms,

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<v Speaker 6>two different things.

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<v Speaker 5>So I guess the w n I T is privately

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<v Speaker 5>owned while the w B I T is n cua

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<v Speaker 5>A owned. Also, all those games are going to be

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<v Speaker 5>like on ESPN affiliates like for the w B I T.

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<v Speaker 5>It's also a different number of teams stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, a little interesting in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me give you a heads up because you might

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<v Speaker 1>not might do it again. So when we're covering college games,

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<v Speaker 1>this is probably you don't know where maybe the style stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>When they're college the women, they're women. Okay, when they're

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<v Speaker 1>in high school they're girls. Okay, that's just how it is,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Yeah, because I call the girls to that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense.

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<v Speaker 6>Keeping it in the vault. But yeah, other big news.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh talked about it a little bit earlier.

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<v Speaker 5>The football team started their spring trainings spring ball yesterday,

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<v Speaker 5>and I guess some of the big things that came

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<v Speaker 5>out of that was Brennan putting a big emphasis on culture,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, trying to establish the culture and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me, I said, because everybody has that right,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody has to have their culture. What does it mean here?

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<v Speaker 1>He talked about that originally when he came. You weren't there, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't go to you were there, and he you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he had his notes and he wanted to speak about

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<v Speaker 1>a few things. Bullet point type of stuff in culture,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I didn't want to ask any questions.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not my space football, And I'm thinking what does

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<v Speaker 1>he mean by that? Because everybody wants to have a culture.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think that's his?

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<v Speaker 6>What do you get?

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<v Speaker 8>What his? Or what Arizona historically?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, his is because historically what is historically?

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<v Speaker 7>What is I think historically for Arizona. If you're looking

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<v Speaker 7>at the tomy Larry Smith and even Jim Young and

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<v Speaker 7>Mike Stoops, Era's uh toughness, it's gritty. It's running the football,

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<v Speaker 7>hard nosed defense, and recruiting the Polynesian community.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so is what you get out of it?

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<v Speaker 10>So yeah, working with the underdog always going to be doubted.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, but isn't That's okay, That's always been the culture.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like when people talk about the space of the

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<v Speaker 1>nil and the money the kids are going to get, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna be I'm saying speaking this Arizona that week.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not gonna get the Ohio State guys, Texas guys

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<v Speaker 1>because they have all that money, right, Well, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to go to the three stars and coach them up.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what before you were born Troy before you were

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<v Speaker 1>born one. That's just how it is. Whether Nil was

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<v Speaker 1>here or not, It's always been the case.

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<v Speaker 8>I'll say this.

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<v Speaker 7>The only time where it's been different and it didn't

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<v Speaker 7>last on was Jetfish because they expected to win that

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<v Speaker 7>third season when once the quarterback changed happened and once

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<v Speaker 7>he saw them played tight against Washington and USC there

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<v Speaker 7>wasn't a game they thought they could have went out there.

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<v Speaker 7>So the culture changed for for that period I'm saying

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<v Speaker 7>for for what Jetfish was establishing. They got ted Taro

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<v Speaker 7>McMillan away from Oregon, they got some other.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're probably telling me because I'm not speaking out

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<v Speaker 1>of my my butt here, But Jed had a different mentality, right.

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<v Speaker 1>He had not a swagger, but he had a There

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<v Speaker 1>was a confidence is a great word. He had that

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<v Speaker 1>my stuff doesn't stink and it's going to be better

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<v Speaker 1>than yours kind of rich Rod had that to a

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<v Speaker 1>degree to degree.

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<v Speaker 2>But but maybe Jed's a little different.

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<v Speaker 7>Jed is the best recruiter Arizona Football's ever had. I

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<v Speaker 7>would say I think he's the best recruiter Arizona's ever had.

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<v Speaker 8>Troy.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, I think with rich Rod it was a

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<v Speaker 10>little bit of doubt coming from Michigan and how that

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<v Speaker 10>ended with with Jed, it was a little bit of

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<v Speaker 10>the unknown, So why not take a chance on it?

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<v Speaker 7>And I think with rich Rod, the mentality is of yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>you may you know, get us in the first half.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna help coach you. I'm gonna make the adjustment.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna beat you in.

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<v Speaker 1>And he did because he was He's a smart football coach.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think mentality to heat he realized he only had.

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<v Speaker 2>The three stars.

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<v Speaker 1>The old KG is right, the three stars, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get a four star and we'll coach him.

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<v Speaker 8>When you don't recruit, well, you come a no no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>No exactly, Hey make me America great again?

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<v Speaker 7>Where Jad, I'm not going down that right where Jad

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<v Speaker 7>he was out offering for or five star kids and

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<v Speaker 7>they're saying, you're Arizona.

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<v Speaker 8>Why are you offering right?

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<v Speaker 7>Because we don't care where Arizona and we're gonna be better.

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<v Speaker 7>Want to be a part What you need? You need that,

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<v Speaker 7>you need that, you need that, and you what that

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<v Speaker 7>costs a lot of money now now? And then I well,

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<v Speaker 7>once once they prove it, I'm saying I'm saying for

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<v Speaker 7>the coach. Once the coach proves he can do it,

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<v Speaker 7>it costs a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, I totally agree with you, Joy, because

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<v Speaker 1>you you saw that with him. It was not a

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<v Speaker 1>it was a subtle but not subtle thing because he

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<v Speaker 1>was Jed and this is I've been here, I've been here.

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<v Speaker 7>Here's my resume. But you need that, and it was

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<v Speaker 7>and it was different. I don't know if I should

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<v Speaker 7>say this, but I'm gonna. I'm gonna say this. No, no,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not I'm not cussing. I'm not cussing. But Jed's

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<v Speaker 7>first meeting with the alumni association. Every coach meets with

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<v Speaker 7>the alumnis and oh hi, I'm da da da da.

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<v Speaker 7>He showed them the facilities at Alabama, Oregon, we did Georgia,

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<v Speaker 7>some high level secs and he goes, you want to

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<v Speaker 7>be as good as them, We need your money.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And he was great at that.

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<v Speaker 7>And they're like, excuse me, Like, you guys are on

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<v Speaker 7>a twenty game losing streak. It's your first thing on job.

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<v Speaker 7>Who you know? Are you to tell me that? But

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<v Speaker 7>he was right, yeah, but you don't right.

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<v Speaker 2>And eventually eventually I'm not gonna dog him. We're not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna not gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>He did what he did and this town needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be thankful for that.

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<v Speaker 7>This this town will hate to hear this, but it's

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<v Speaker 7>one of the most impressive turnarounds in college football. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>you went from Kansas level football and no offense Kansas,

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<v Speaker 7>but let's be honest, Kansas football isn't very good. So

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<v Speaker 7>all of a sudden at the end of the season

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<v Speaker 7>in that third year, if they didn't have the slow

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<v Speaker 8>And I think only.

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<v Speaker 8>What have you been drinking? I think just that one team,

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<v Speaker 5>Also, to kind of add to that, Jed was really good,

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<v Speaker 6>I remember when like that came out and I was like, man, no,

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<v Speaker 1>Now what you can kind of look back and get

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<v Speaker 1>the full view of it. Very impressive, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>you were just talking about him the bravado that he had.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't do it with us much, but I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>To these nitwos. Oh you know what I'm saying. These

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I deal with the NFL these guys all

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<v Speaker 7>And he definitely had an ego because he looked at

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<v Speaker 7>when Kenny Dellingham went from Oregon to ASU.

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<v Speaker 8>He did not like Kenny Dillingham very.

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<v Speaker 7>Much because there was similar soyl in terms of offensive

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well see it, so you have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>So now you have he leaves and he takes with

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<v Speaker 2>Now you have a.

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<v Speaker 1>Brennan Brennan who doesn't have that. Maybe he does and

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<v Speaker 1>we don't see it, but he doesn't have that. So

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona lost that.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it lost somewhat of an edge to the coaching staff. Yes,

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<v Speaker 7>I think I think Jed set the tone for his

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<v Speaker 7>knew were going to be very good coaches. Brennan, Brennan Carroll,

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<v Speaker 8>So you're kind of on your way out.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, you're no longer the offensive line coach being

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<v Speaker 7>You get him from ASU's administration. All of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 7>your running backs are good, your offensive line is good.

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<v Speaker 7>It starts to develop. You set the tone from the

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<v Speaker 7>from the top down, where I think Brennan and his

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<v Speaker 7>a really good assistant coaching staff, But do you trust

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<v Speaker 1>So I know you've been here just you know, ten

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<v Speaker 2>Who has bigger egos?

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<v Speaker 1>But these college coaches, right, they make a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>money and you have, but you have to have those.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're gonna have a big ego, you better well

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<v Speaker 1>win some games.

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<v Speaker 7>Heck, they're soccer coaches with big egos, and you're you're

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<v Speaker 7>not making the money that the football and the basketball

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<v Speaker 7>and the you know coaches are making.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you think? Same thing ego wise. So

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<v Speaker 1>you've been around, you saw something that Brennan doesn't have that, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Not not as much as Jet Fish did.

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<v Speaker 10>You know Fish would walk around campus, go to the

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<v Speaker 10>little Starbucks right there, and you know he would have

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<v Speaker 10>that charmed him. Yeah, yeah, you go, hey, coach, Hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 10>how you doing. Yeah, he's a salesman, salesman and you

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<v Speaker 10>you wanted to go and support Arizona football because of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and that's what made him good too. He knew

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<v Speaker 7>I'll say this, when he was at a basketball game,

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<v Speaker 7>pizza at a U of a game. Oh cool, thanks

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<v Speaker 7>for the pizza, because you and me, he's just a

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well tom Temmy's that, but he's he's got that

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<v Speaker 7>But the difference is you're the head coach of Arizona basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>Right away, he's won games, yeah yeah, yeah, and right away,

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, welcome back to Why in the Ball Here on

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<v Speaker 1>Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve your Troy. We got

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<v Speaker 1>Jue with us, and we got Ray. Now we've got

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<v Speaker 1>Jay on the phone. Jay Hawaii sounds like you got

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<v Speaker 1>a role full of people over there just bringing my

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<v Speaker 1>kids to work Today's so they're all here, my child

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<v Speaker 1>support people, yeah, my driver, right, Yeah, this show wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>go without them.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, we're talking about a lot of different things. So

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things we're talking about just randomly about

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<v Speaker 1>football and coaching. And you've been here a long time

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<v Speaker 1>obviously seeing some coaches. Uh, and we're talking about Jed specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>with the other coaches sprinkled in with egos, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we're thinking that you have to have that ego to

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<v Speaker 1>be a good one, right, to be a good coach.

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<v Speaker 3>I just have a bit of an ego for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So so the guys that you saw from let's before

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Young, I guess you were how many you have,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years old?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe then?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was in junior high and early high school

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<v Speaker 3>when jim Young was here.

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<v Speaker 2>Did he have that?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>There was no way for me to.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell that to him. I mean I knew he was

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<v Speaker 3>a good coach because you know, you got a crappy

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<v Speaker 3>team and went eight and three in his first season.

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<v Speaker 3>You never said that, you said that he was sort

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<v Speaker 3>of a down home kind of kind of guy. But

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<v Speaker 3>again I was in early high school so that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that wasn't as much of a thing to me then

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<v Speaker 3>as you know, as later.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So then then you go to uh Mason, Tony Mason.

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<v Speaker 1>He had to Yeah, he had to have ego, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a big enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Ego that he thought he could break all the rules

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<v Speaker 3>and that was just too bad. He was you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't he didn't feel like he had to play

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<v Speaker 3>by the wolves. And then he you know, he he

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<v Speaker 3>he he. He justified it, you know, in ways that

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<v Speaker 3>you know it could people could say, Okay, I get it,

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<v Speaker 3>but he knew the rules and he just didn't feel

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<v Speaker 3>like he had follow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, So we go u from him to Larry,

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<v Speaker 2>Larry and Dick.

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<v Speaker 3>Neither one of them. I thought that big eagles. I

479
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<v Speaker 3>think Larry got one, okay when they got pretty damn good,

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<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden he said I could be

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<v Speaker 3>the USC coach. You have to have a big ego

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<v Speaker 3>to say I don't do that job right. So I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think he came with it. I think I think

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<v Speaker 3>it developed a bit. But I think had he stayed Steve,

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<v Speaker 3>he would have been he would have stayed the same

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<v Speaker 3>been the same guy. He just your clients said, oh wow,

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<v Speaker 3>you know I'm in that neighborhood. I'm taking that because

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<v Speaker 3>I think I can do that job.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And then Dick, for sure, he was just one

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<v Speaker 2>of a coach.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a guy. He was just a guy. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>He just wanted to coach football. He wanted to do

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<v Speaker 3>He wanted to mentor guys. He wanted to bring in

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<v Speaker 3>guys that he could change their lives in a positive way.

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<v Speaker 3>He never had the ego. In fact, you know, here's

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<v Speaker 3>the funny thing. It a lot of people think he

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<v Speaker 3>got fired. He did not get fired.

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<v Speaker 8>He resigned.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, he was probably going to get fired, but he

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<v Speaker 3>quit before they fired him. You know, he he I

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<v Speaker 3>mean people, you know, like I said, it's been stead

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<v Speaker 3>over over time.

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<v Speaker 8>He got fired.

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<v Speaker 9>No, he quit.

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<v Speaker 3>He resigned at the end of the ASU game is

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<v Speaker 3>last year. And that was his ego. He's like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to take this anymore. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>take this anymore. I want to live my life. I'm leaving.

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<v Speaker 3>And he did that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So you go from him two stoops.

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<v Speaker 8>You forgot one big ego? Who I forget?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, well forget about Oh God.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm ego could fill McHale Macavis. Ego could fill McHale.

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<v Speaker 3>And the minute he got there, the first time I

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<v Speaker 3>met him, I thought, we're in big trouble, big trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I was I was right, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the first time I met him, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>first and person, I met him on the golf course.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a golf tournament and he and he was

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<v Speaker 3>they put him on the hole for he was hitting.

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<v Speaker 3>He would hit a shot for a drive for you

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<v Speaker 3>if you wanted to do. And we walked up there

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<v Speaker 3>and he was like, you guys, suck, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>hit your drive kind of thing. And I'm like, and

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<v Speaker 3>not in a joking way.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, it's huge, e.

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<v Speaker 2>Though, massive yeah, And we saw how that went. Then

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<v Speaker 2>then you get stoops.

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<v Speaker 3>Not not nobody was big in Macimic, but I thought

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<v Speaker 3>we had a big eagle from the standpoint that he felt.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in Twison, Arizona and at the University Arizona, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was at Oklahoma. We won national championships over there,

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<v Speaker 3>and and I don't think he really ever brought himself

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<v Speaker 3>to a level of understanding the fans around here, and

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<v Speaker 3>that we really didn't give a crap where he was.

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<v Speaker 3>We just wanted to win here. And I thought he

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, I thought he never really I thought he

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<v Speaker 3>never really brought his ego down to a level of

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<v Speaker 3>you have a football coach. He kind of still thought,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm in Oklahoma where I win national championships, and

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<v Speaker 3>you guys are beneath me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, that's fair, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Then we went to rich Ron, Right, another big ego, right,

544
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<v Speaker 3>you know, another big eagle guy that just you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't break rules, but he played by his own rule.

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<v Speaker 3>But I love Rod because he was he was a

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<v Speaker 3>he was a big giant ego, but he was our

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<v Speaker 3>big giant ego, and he was winning games and we

549
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<v Speaker 3>were having fun, his his his his teams were exciting,

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<v Speaker 3>and we were going to bowl games.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah okay, So then he's gone and then we get some.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, he's right up to with Macavic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, And I think his reputation, at least in

554
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<v Speaker 1>his mind, tried to solve issues, but he.

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<v Speaker 2>Had it was bad.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just bad, right, right, No, you're you one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred percent correct. I was just like, what the hell?

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<v Speaker 3>You know? You know, you got fired from your job.

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<v Speaker 3>You really shouldn't have any kind of an ego, right, right, right?

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<v Speaker 2>And you fell forward that job, he fell forward into

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<v Speaker 2>this job.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we go from him now to the now

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<v Speaker 1>to the guy who can You kind of started this conversation, Jed,

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<v Speaker 1>who who?

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<v Speaker 2>Who? Go ahead? I want to just get your thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>through a quick Jed.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty good sized ego. But you know, some some will

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<v Speaker 3>say it was confidence in himself that right. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>guy was a tennis player who became a major college

571
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<v Speaker 3>football coach, so he wasn't afraid to take chances. He

572
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<v Speaker 3>wasn't afraid to tell people, Look, I'm pretty damn good

573
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<v Speaker 3>at what I do. So in that regard, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think it was an unhealthy big ego. But I thought

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<v Speaker 3>you did have a big ego.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and that's why we still does. Yeah, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why we kind of started this conversation. I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people in Tucents need to say thank you

579
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<v Speaker 1>for doing what we did.

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<v Speaker 2>But he wouldn't be who he was or is without that.

581
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<v Speaker 3>Ego, right, I agree with that one hundred percent. You know,

582
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<v Speaker 3>he he had to believe in himself that he could

583
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<v Speaker 3>do these things, because he was not anybody that you

584
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<v Speaker 3>looked at and said he could do those things.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, really, I mean the underdog mentality most of his career, right,

586
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<v Speaker 7>a guy that like tennis guy. And you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 7>on Florida's campus. Can I be one of your analysts?

588
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<v Speaker 7>It's like who are you? It's like, well, you'll learn

589
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<v Speaker 7>my name, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, okay, so you go for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'd be interested to see how all of that

592
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<v Speaker 3>has changed or not changed at Washington, right. You know,

593
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<v Speaker 3>I'm at Washington. I'm not at Arizona. I'm at a

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<v Speaker 3>place that's one national championships and there's that expectation. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be interested to see what he'd liked up there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, give your example of the first meeting with the guys.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, when Jed first came to campus. You know,

598
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<v Speaker 7>they meet with the alumni via zoom or whatnot, and

599
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<v Speaker 7>you know, introduced the new head coach and he had

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<v Speaker 7>a slide ready for them, uh, talking to all the

601
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<v Speaker 7>former football players of locker rooms and facilities at Georgia, Oregon,

602
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<v Speaker 7>Alabama and big time programs like that, and he said,

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<v Speaker 7>you guys want to compete at that level we need

604
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<v Speaker 7>your money. We need that money to compete at that

605
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<v Speaker 7>level because they have that money. And he's white gap

606
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<v Speaker 7>and he's right.

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<v Speaker 1>The good thing that he's very good salesman and a

608
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<v Speaker 1>pretty good coach as we as it turns out, then turned,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, after two years, turned this program into what

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<v Speaker 1>we never thought possible, right at least at that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>So you you have to understand that his ego worked

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<v Speaker 1>for this place.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, Yeah, he had to believe he could come

614
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<v Speaker 3>and do this in Arizona, and he did so.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and again I think he oh, sorry, Jay, go ahead, No,

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<v Speaker 7>go ahead, go ahead, No, I was gonna say, I

617
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<v Speaker 7>think not only did it show in terms of how

618
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<v Speaker 7>he carried himself in terms of how he coached, but

619
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<v Speaker 7>on the recruiting field, on the recruiting trips and recruiting field,

620
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<v Speaker 7>you go and offer five star kids that Arizona wasn't

621
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<v Speaker 7>even offering before, and usually you'd get a laugh and

622
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<v Speaker 7>he's like, no, you know, we're offering you. We're going

623
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<v Speaker 7>to be good and you should be a part of

624
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<v Speaker 7>it because you'll be remembered. You'll start at Arizona, you'll

625
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<v Speaker 7>get big time minutes, big time snaps, and you'll help

626
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<v Speaker 7>turn around a program. And that's the recruiting pitch he

627
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<v Speaker 7>sold and it worked and they got to tuo McMillan.

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<v Speaker 8>Out of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, no, okay, yeah, I mean I yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's transition into what they have now another do

631
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<v Speaker 2>you tell me?

632
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? But you know, let's let me say this and

633
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<v Speaker 3>going back to Dick again, to be a major college

634
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<v Speaker 3>football coach, you've got to have some sort of an ego, right,

635
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<v Speaker 3>because it's a hard job. People crap all over you

636
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<v Speaker 3>all the time, whether you're doing a good job or not,

637
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<v Speaker 3>as you know with with Tommy Lloyd, and so you

638
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<v Speaker 3>have a belief in yourself that you're good enough to

639
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:14.160
<v Speaker 3>do this. So he's got some bit of an ego maybe,

640
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<v Speaker 3>But in terms of when you compare these guys, yeah,

641
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<v Speaker 3>he's definitely in the Dick Toby range more so than

642
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<v Speaker 3>the even you know, rech rod or or Stoops you

643
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:28.319
<v Speaker 3>know Stoops range. You know, you got to have a

644
00:29:28.400 --> 00:29:31.359
<v Speaker 3>bit of an ego to uh, to be able to

645
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<v Speaker 3>withstand all the stuff you've got to withstand in this job.

646
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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

647
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:39.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we'll see there's a conversation what what what what?

648
00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:40.400
<v Speaker 3>What led to this conversation.

649
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:42.640
<v Speaker 1>We were talking about just the success of I think

650
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:45.039
<v Speaker 1>he started with Jed right, Yeah, and we kind of

651
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:47.519
<v Speaker 1>just manifested into just the kind of egos that you

652
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:50.039
<v Speaker 1>need at this level. Now, you know, we have Tommy

653
00:29:50.160 --> 00:29:52.279
<v Speaker 1>who's kind of got one, but you don't really see

654
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>it because he's just a happy But it's kind of good.

655
00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>But no question, just this year, this year, because of

656
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<v Speaker 1>how he has handled us and handles he's handled the

657
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<v Speaker 1>outside world.

658
00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:05.079
<v Speaker 7>And I forget who I was so much of himself

659
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<v Speaker 7>to himself. Yeah, which is interesting. Yeah, you know, kind

660
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<v Speaker 7>of I forget who I was talking to about this,

661
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<v Speaker 7>but you've seen it grow. I think one of the

662
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<v Speaker 7>big things is you've gone from a Pac Twell conference,

663
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<v Speaker 7>where you were the dog on the street, you were

664
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<v Speaker 7>gonna you were probably gonna go top dog, yeah talking basketball,

665
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<v Speaker 7>to the Big Twelve, where you are now the underdog.

666
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:29.000
<v Speaker 7>Nobody thinks you're physical enough, nobody thinks you're talented enough

667
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<v Speaker 7>to finish in the top three of the Big twelve.

668
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<v Speaker 7>And now now that gives you a little bit of

669
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<v Speaker 7>a chip on your shoulder and therefore a little bit

670
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<v Speaker 7>more of an ego in terms of we're going to

671
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<v Speaker 7>get this sum and we're in we're gonna do it

672
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<v Speaker 7>and surprise people along the way. And this year they

673
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<v Speaker 7>finished third in the Big Twelve. I don't think anybody

674
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<v Speaker 7>thought they were going to do that, and they become

675
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<v Speaker 7>one of the more physical teams in the conference as well.

676
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

677
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<v Speaker 3>No, yeah, I mean I agree, you know, I just

678
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<v Speaker 3>you know, he's he's he's a bit of a self

679
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<v Speaker 3>effacing guy, but he's a kind of a serious guy,

680
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<v Speaker 3>could you know. Yes, he always uh you know, takes

681
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:07.559
<v Speaker 3>responsibilities for his think we played bad, it was my fault,

682
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:10.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, those kinds of things. And again, you've got

683
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:17.519
<v Speaker 3>to have an ego to do that, right to say

684
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<v Speaker 3>I'm willing to take the hit. I'm comfortable enough in

685
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<v Speaker 3>my skin to take the hit for that. So it's

686
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<v Speaker 3>it's not it's kind of a weird thing, right right.

687
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So let's move that from now to now where

688
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:32.039
<v Speaker 1>he has to have an ego and a good team,

689
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:36.200
<v Speaker 1>because all good teams are here. Uh and in the end, Yeah,

690
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<v Speaker 1>any misstep in the next two weeks or three weeks,

691
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<v Speaker 1>uh could happen.

692
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, uh, he's yeah, I mean, he's got

693
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<v Speaker 3>to he can't. You know, I'm right, he's got to

694
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<v Speaker 3>have a good he's got to have a really good team,

695
00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:58.920
<v Speaker 3>and whether he does or not, this year is gonna

696
00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:01.039
<v Speaker 3>he's gonna, you know, addual a lot as to whether

697
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:04.559
<v Speaker 3>or not he gets to stick around Jay. I you know,

698
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think you know, hot hot seats have

699
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<v Speaker 3>gone from a three year thing to a two year thing,

700
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<v Speaker 3>right and.

701
00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:13.759
<v Speaker 7>They just got a new you think No, yeah, No,

702
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:16.480
<v Speaker 7>I was gonna ask Jay his thoughts if he is

703
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:18.880
<v Speaker 7>able to get through that sweet because right now, the

704
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:21.079
<v Speaker 7>Sweet sixteen is that barrier that he hasn't been able

705
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:21.440
<v Speaker 7>to break.

706
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:24.039
<v Speaker 3>I thought we're talking about Are we talking about Tommy

707
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:27.759
<v Speaker 3>or Tommy? Oh, I'm sorry, I'll talk about Bretton. I

708
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:29.559
<v Speaker 3>thought we were still talking about Okay, Okay, I see

709
00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:32.200
<v Speaker 3>what you meant to tom No, Tommy's not anywhere near

710
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:36.039
<v Speaker 3>the hot seat. Tommy is now if you want to

711
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:41.680
<v Speaker 3>go to that, you know, you know he I mean

712
00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:45.519
<v Speaker 3>to me, to me, they got to get to the

713
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:47.640
<v Speaker 3>Sweet sixteen or it's going to be a rough off

714
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:48.480
<v Speaker 3>season for Tommy.

715
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:51.519
<v Speaker 7>Well, I was gonna say, is it a better off

716
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:53.119
<v Speaker 7>season than think of there? Or do they need to

717
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:56.559
<v Speaker 7>get past the Sweet sixteen and break that barrier and

718
00:32:56.680 --> 00:32:58.519
<v Speaker 7>get to the lead, which Tommy hasn't done yet.

719
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:05.559
<v Speaker 3>I don't think they have to because here's what's gonna happen. Okay,

720
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:07.400
<v Speaker 3>all these people are going to be talking about outside

721
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:10.039
<v Speaker 3>of both sides, that are enough. People are saying you suck,

722
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:12.599
<v Speaker 3>You lost twelve games, you're not any good.

723
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:15.480
<v Speaker 8>Okay, but you're better.

724
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:19.039
<v Speaker 3>Get to the Elite eight because you know, I mean,

725
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:21.759
<v Speaker 3>you are who you are. They're a Sweet sixteen team.

726
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:24.759
<v Speaker 3>You know they can get to they can get to

727
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:26.880
<v Speaker 3>the Elite eight. Part of it's that part of that's

728
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:30.440
<v Speaker 3>going to depend on a matchup. But to me, if

729
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:32.920
<v Speaker 3>they get to the Sweet sixteen, that's really what you

730
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<v Speaker 3>can expect. You they finished third in their league, you know,

731
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<v Speaker 3>and they had a decent year. They you know, if

732
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<v Speaker 3>they hadn't struggled so much, and you know, if they

733
00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:44.000
<v Speaker 3>didn't have five losses coming out of non pfer let's

734
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:46.920
<v Speaker 3>say they were they had three fewer losses coming out

735
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:48.400
<v Speaker 3>of non conference, and some of those would have had

736
00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:51.319
<v Speaker 3>to be really good. Wiz, you'd say they're an elad eighteen,

737
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:56.079
<v Speaker 3>but they're not. You know, there's Sweet sixteen team and

738
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<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, I think fans don't be fans.

739
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:01.759
<v Speaker 3>If they get to the lead eight and don't get

740
00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:04.359
<v Speaker 3>to the final four, they're still going to be pissed.

741
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:08.199
<v Speaker 1>Off, Yeah, because they want more, Because they want more, right, right,

742
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:10.400
<v Speaker 1>So are they going to get to the sweet sixteen?

743
00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:16.119
<v Speaker 3>I think they are. I think they are even even.

744
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:17.519
<v Speaker 3>You know, a lot a lot of people are picking

745
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:21.079
<v Speaker 3>Oregon to beat them. But you know, I think this

746
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:25.480
<v Speaker 3>team is different. I think they're different from a toughness standpoint.

747
00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:29.079
<v Speaker 3>I think it's a very confident team. Thank Caleb Love

748
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:32.800
<v Speaker 3>has been playing well for a few games now. They

749
00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:34.679
<v Speaker 3>you know, there's some other guys who are stepping up.

750
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:37.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, Trey Uh, Trey Townsend had a good few games.

751
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:40.840
<v Speaker 9>Uh, you know, uh.

752
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:45.199
<v Speaker 3>Your part of we're talking about this, part of this

753
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:49.239
<v Speaker 3>is you're wondering about Jayden Bradley and his I don't

754
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:51.320
<v Speaker 3>say his stamina right now, He's been playing a lot

755
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:55.760
<v Speaker 3>of minutes and because del Also is more or less

756
00:34:56.599 --> 00:35:00.920
<v Speaker 3>not very functional, you know, kJ is having to come

757
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:04.239
<v Speaker 3>in and play in del Orso spot and Jayden Bradley's

758
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:07.239
<v Speaker 3>not getting you know, as much time off as maybe

759
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:09.400
<v Speaker 3>he could use. He's playing, he's playing with thirty seven

760
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:11.840
<v Speaker 3>minutes a game right now over the last several games,

761
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:15.239
<v Speaker 3>so you wonder about his legs and his ability to

762
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:17.199
<v Speaker 3>you know, to make it through this stuff.

763
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<v Speaker 8>But I think that.

764
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<v Speaker 3>I think they're good enough to get to the sweet sixteen,

765
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:24.480
<v Speaker 3>and then it just depends on who they play. I say,

766
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<v Speaker 3>they get to the sweet sixteen and it's not Duke

767
00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:29.559
<v Speaker 3>to somebody else. Well, then you get into the final eight,

768
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:31.960
<v Speaker 3>and I think they can beat Duke. I don't know

769
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<v Speaker 3>if they will, but I think they can. It's the

770
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:35.599
<v Speaker 3>same way I think that even though they lost twice

771
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:39.000
<v Speaker 3>to Houston, I think they can beat Houston. I'd rather

772
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:41.039
<v Speaker 3>not see those guys, but I think they can beat them.

773
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think they would have a harder time against

774
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Houston a third time than they would against Duke.

775
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:45.159
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I agree.

776
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:49.159
<v Speaker 7>I think, Yeah, a great Duke isn't as physical as

777
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:50.840
<v Speaker 7>who say they don't slow it down that way?

778
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:52.320
<v Speaker 8>Can they choose?

779
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:55.840
<v Speaker 1>They're not like Arizona because they're they're more finesse, physical

780
00:35:56.199 --> 00:35:56.920
<v Speaker 1>and they have talent.

781
00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:00.199
<v Speaker 7>You know, Houston just be rough you up, and I

782
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:04.679
<v Speaker 7>think I think has become more physical tough.

783
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:07.599
<v Speaker 2>Who does Duke play in the next round.

784
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:10.280
<v Speaker 7>Potentially Baylor or in Mississippi State, and I would I

785
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:13.079
<v Speaker 7>would give the edge to Baylor in terms of getting

786
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:13.480
<v Speaker 7>to Duke.

787
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:16.239
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, so we'll see, I mean, we'll see

788
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Arison Eversons capable of Obviously everything has to go well though.

789
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:25.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, you know, Arizona's not a you know,

790
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:27.800
<v Speaker 3>they're not a one seed, and not chis that you

791
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:30.079
<v Speaker 3>have this expectation that they're one of the best teams

792
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:32.960
<v Speaker 3>in the tournament. But they are somebody that's got good

793
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:36.519
<v Speaker 3>enough players, you know, to to make a deep run

794
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:40.800
<v Speaker 3>under the right circumstance. Uh And and that that's that's

795
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:43.800
<v Speaker 3>what they are. And people have to understand that. Anybody's saying,

796
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<v Speaker 3>ohth you're better go to the final four, Tommy, yeah,

797
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:47.199
<v Speaker 3>you know.

798
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<v Speaker 2>That those are man, those are the ones I believe

799
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<v Speaker 2>that the programs of blue Blood.

800
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<v Speaker 3>You know, we were saying on BBC there.

801
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:03.920
<v Speaker 2>We gotta go way over. Thanks Jake, Thanks Jake.

802
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:07.719
<v Speaker 3>All right, man, it's fun tuck you guys later, ellone.

803
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<v Speaker 2>You know, we gotta go and come back. Maybe take

804
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<v Speaker 2>a caller too.

805
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<v Speaker 4>This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 4>Want to take part in the show? Call up Steve

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<v Speaker 4>now went five to two oho seventy four.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, welcome back to everybody. Oh Steve, your Troy, your

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<v Speaker 1>one and your ray one. I don't know why fend

877
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<v Speaker 1>your own your neddamn name.

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00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:00.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm quite offended.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't see you. Yes, yeah, you're my favorite son.

880
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:06.880
<v Speaker 2>So there's that.

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00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:09.280
<v Speaker 1>If you guys want to call if I do five

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00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:12.159
<v Speaker 1>to two OHO four one six seventy four, forty, you'd

883
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:14.599
<v Speaker 1>like to hear from you. We kind of went sideways

884
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:16.119
<v Speaker 1>on that conversation, but it was a good one. About

885
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:19.400
<v Speaker 1>the egoists. Yeah, we don't really talk about that. I'm

886
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:23.559
<v Speaker 1>talking about Tommy Miller, Sean Sean had Sean hadwin in

887
00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:26.519
<v Speaker 1>a different way, you know, and Tommy has one, but

888
00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:27.360
<v Speaker 1>just a different way.

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00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:32.360
<v Speaker 2>We'll see what happens. Now, you gotta call cool. Hello,

890
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:36.519
<v Speaker 2>you're on the air nine the ball. Who's this? Yeah?

891
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:43.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, wait, Hello, you're on the air nine in

892
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:43.519
<v Speaker 2>the ball.

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00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:46.039
<v Speaker 22>Hi, Steve, this is done.

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00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Hey Don, how are you?

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00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:52.480
<v Speaker 22>I'm good. I just it's just funny to hear Jay

896
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:56.840
<v Speaker 22>talk and a lot of other people too about giving

897
00:41:56.960 --> 00:42:02.599
<v Speaker 22>Tommy a pass in what sense? In what sense?

898
00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if he if he doesn't get to a certain point.

899
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:10.199
<v Speaker 22>He's nowhere near the hot seat. He comes, he comes,

900
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:15.199
<v Speaker 22>he's he's you know, instead of instead of coaching the game,

901
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:20.920
<v Speaker 22>he's watching the crowd and the timeout festivities at fog Allen.

902
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:25.280
<v Speaker 22>And then, uh, you know, he crumbs the program. He

903
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:28.719
<v Speaker 22>crumbs McHale, you know, and he acts like he built it.

904
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:32.039
<v Speaker 22>You know, he was given the keys to the Cadillac,

905
00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:36.360
<v Speaker 22>and uh, poor ol Brannan is taking the bus.

906
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:39.519
<v Speaker 7>Was it a Cadillac or was it a broken down vehicle?

907
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:43.280
<v Speaker 7>Because Sean did not have a running Sean did not

908
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:44.920
<v Speaker 7>have a running At the end of his coaching career

909
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:45.920
<v Speaker 7>in Arizona.

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00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:50.039
<v Speaker 22>It's been it's been competitive since nineteen eighty five. They were, Oh, no, no,

911
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:53.199
<v Speaker 22>I've been I've been here the whole thing. No, the

912
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:54.480
<v Speaker 22>program is the program.

913
00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:56.559
<v Speaker 1>No, No, I have to disagree with you at the

914
00:42:56.679 --> 00:42:59.800
<v Speaker 1>end because Sean, Sean was sputtering at the end. Although

915
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:03.159
<v Speaker 1>although he did have the cupboard of Matherin and and

916
00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Matherine and Dalen Terry, who else.

917
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Was there at Coloco and Coloco? But we didn't know

918
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:08.440
<v Speaker 2>how good those guys.

919
00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:16.679
<v Speaker 22>So so Arizona basketball was busted down to the stone.

920
00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:18.280
<v Speaker 2>No no, no, no, no, no no no.

921
00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:22.360
<v Speaker 1>It was a yes, yes, you are time up and

922
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.480
<v Speaker 1>the other thing, Donny, go ahead and you finishing to finish?

923
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Over you go ahead?

924
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:31.599
<v Speaker 22>Okay here you I'll get off of that for a second.

925
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:35.800
<v Speaker 22>You were asking about people's X factors, Yes, going into

926
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:38.239
<v Speaker 22>the tournament, going into the Big twelve, and going into

927
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:43.760
<v Speaker 22>the national tournament. Now mine is Tommy Lloyd himself. In

928
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:48.000
<v Speaker 22>your article, Steve, he told you or he he said

929
00:43:48.079 --> 00:43:51.079
<v Speaker 22>that he mostly did the all access for his friend

930
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:53.760
<v Speaker 22>that works at ESPN, right, and he made the big

931
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:57.199
<v Speaker 22>old show. And then in the post in the postgame

932
00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:02.800
<v Speaker 22>press conference, he admitted that Houston was forcing the defensive

933
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:07.480
<v Speaker 22>switches that Arizona was was making and getting favorable matchups

934
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:12.400
<v Speaker 22>for themselves, and he says, we got to own it. Well,

935
00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:14.960
<v Speaker 22>what happened to the coach figuring out a plan to

936
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:20.440
<v Speaker 22>take that away from the other teamgree So he makes

937
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:23.440
<v Speaker 22>a show in the time out and then at the

938
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:26.519
<v Speaker 22>end he threw his players under the bus where he

939
00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:30.880
<v Speaker 22>didn't he did not take the blame. It wasn't on him.

940
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<v Speaker 22>He goes, we got to own it. Well, you know what,

941
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:36.599
<v Speaker 22>he needs to own that part. And that's the part

942
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:40.880
<v Speaker 22>that gets me that Tommy gets a pass because Arizona

943
00:44:41.079 --> 00:44:46.840
<v Speaker 22>wasn't busted down. Arizona wasn't UTEP basketball, which can rise

944
00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:50.599
<v Speaker 22>up and be competitive at any moment, just like New Mexico.

945
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:53.880
<v Speaker 22>If Lude had gone to New Mexico, that that's where

946
00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:56.440
<v Speaker 22>you know, we'd be, where they'd be where we are now.

947
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<v Speaker 1>H You know, I kind of agree with this point

948
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:04.760
<v Speaker 1>of the of the of the showmanship on the TV

949
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:08.480
<v Speaker 1>and asking the guys to to be or to close out.

950
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Yet he didn't have the plan or this. They didn't

951
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:13.760
<v Speaker 1>execute it for whatever reason, they just didn't and and

952
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:17.559
<v Speaker 1>done to the point of Houston's pretty damn good, you know,

953
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:18.719
<v Speaker 1>pretty damn good.

954
00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:22.679
<v Speaker 22>So you are taking I'm not taking anything away from

955
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:26.039
<v Speaker 22>Houston because they are good. Our guys are good too,

956
00:45:26.360 --> 00:45:30.360
<v Speaker 22>But for us to go you know, it goes back

957
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:34.800
<v Speaker 22>to the this team not defending the three the three

958
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:38.800
<v Speaker 22>point shots. Oh geez, let's see from since when. No, No,

959
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:41.960
<v Speaker 22>you remember, You're right, you know, and it's it's like,

960
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:44.599
<v Speaker 22>how how how has it been so long?

961
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

962
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:48.400
<v Speaker 22>That or Or is the big well just too good

963
00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:51.840
<v Speaker 22>to defend the Three. No, you're right that he hasn't

964
00:45:51.880 --> 00:45:54.480
<v Speaker 22>figured that out. I mean he's the coach, he's the

965
00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:56.360
<v Speaker 22>one that's supposed to make the plan done.

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00:45:56.760 --> 00:45:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Let me say this, you are one hundred percent right.

967
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:01.840
<v Speaker 1>If they lose Friday, I'm not defending the three. Shame

968
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:04.280
<v Speaker 1>on them because they had thirty games to figure that out.

969
00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:06.360
<v Speaker 1>I totally agree with you. And if they lose down

970
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:08.719
<v Speaker 1>the road too, that's one of the things they need

971
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:11.760
<v Speaker 1>to stop. To your point, I totally disagree. Agree with you,

972
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:12.320
<v Speaker 1>hold on.

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00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:15.519
<v Speaker 22>And the thing I agree with is this team is

974
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:19.719
<v Speaker 22>good enough to beat just about anybody, maybe except for Houston,

975
00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:22.039
<v Speaker 22>because that's.

976
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:23.119
<v Speaker 2>Almost in the mind now.

977
00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:26.519
<v Speaker 22>But I mean, do we play them. I was gonna

978
00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:28.159
<v Speaker 22>call in earlier in the week and I was gonna say,

979
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:31.199
<v Speaker 22>there's no such thing as a moral victory. Yeah, you

980
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:35.079
<v Speaker 22>played really good list last weekend. Yeah, even in that

981
00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:39.679
<v Speaker 22>loss to Houston, Arizona played really good. Yeah, And it

982
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:42.119
<v Speaker 22>would have been if we if they could have figured

983
00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:45.960
<v Speaker 22>something out here and there, you know, a turnover one

984
00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:48.719
<v Speaker 22>you know, one or two turnovers last or getting you know,

985
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:52.880
<v Speaker 22>or or something you know. Okay, Houston, Houston misses a

986
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:56.599
<v Speaker 22>couple of two more shots and maybe that game falls different,

987
00:46:57.119 --> 00:46:58.760
<v Speaker 22>and who knows what happens.

988
00:46:58.760 --> 00:46:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So let's go back.

989
00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:02.000
<v Speaker 22>To your supert closer to Houston than the record.

990
00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I don't disagree with you, don't. Just they're right there,

991
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:06.679
<v Speaker 1>and like you said, after the first last one, they

992
00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:09.880
<v Speaker 1>paid here. They've worked on this eleven years right, Arizona's

993
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:13.000
<v Speaker 1>four years into it. Eventually it'll happen, But who knows

994
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:15.960
<v Speaker 1>when we're gonna check some What was the Shawn's last

995
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:16.480
<v Speaker 1>couple of years.

996
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:20.079
<v Speaker 10>So in the twenty twenty twenty twenty one season, there

997
00:47:20.119 --> 00:47:22.639
<v Speaker 10>was the COVID season seventeen to nine, the one work

998
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:24.480
<v Speaker 10>got canceled at the end because of COVID twenty one

999
00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:27.960
<v Speaker 10>and eleven, the last full season seventeen and fifteen.

1000
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:31.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I think you're trying to rewrite history. Done

1001
00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:33.400
<v Speaker 1>and all due respect, you're trying to run At the

1002
00:47:33.559 --> 00:47:36.480
<v Speaker 1>end of his his tenure, they were sputtering, and it

1003
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:38.960
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a pretty sputtering. It was other things off the

1004
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:41.079
<v Speaker 1>court and all that stuff as we know it.

1005
00:47:41.400 --> 00:47:44.440
<v Speaker 22>And it was the off the court stuff, which when

1006
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:48.719
<v Speaker 22>when when that stuff came out, it was somebody told me,

1007
00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:53.079
<v Speaker 22>they're going, why would why would DeAndre Ayton come to Arizona.

1008
00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:58.920
<v Speaker 22>Something's fishy because Sean Miller is not a big He's

1009
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:02.920
<v Speaker 22>not a big man coach, you know.

1010
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:06.599
<v Speaker 8>Well, I mean I was, I was at that point

1011
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:06.920
<v Speaker 8>in time.

1012
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:09.719
<v Speaker 2>No, I hear you. But he was also a good,

1013
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:12.039
<v Speaker 2>good recruiter, you know, to a certain degree.

1014
00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:15.119
<v Speaker 22>But the thing is, to your point, a good recruiter,

1015
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:19.159
<v Speaker 22>and it's stunk and and maybe all that outside stuff.

1016
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:22.199
<v Speaker 22>I mean, I'm sure you know he was looking over

1017
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:26.480
<v Speaker 22>his shoulder and his and his attention was divided, which

1018
00:48:26.679 --> 00:48:29.320
<v Speaker 22>we know that when Sean Miller, Sean Miller is, he

1019
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:31.519
<v Speaker 22>wants to be on the court. He wants to be

1020
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:34.960
<v Speaker 22>on the court, you know, And and that and I

1021
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:39.559
<v Speaker 22>just I just think that the program is still the program,

1022
00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:44.719
<v Speaker 22>and the program and everything that it entails. McHale's Center,

1023
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:48.480
<v Speaker 22>the history, all of that counts for something. All of

1024
00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:52.000
<v Speaker 22>it counts for something. And how good was Tommy Lloyd's

1025
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:55.079
<v Speaker 22>first season with Sean Miller's leftovers.

1026
00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:59.920
<v Speaker 7>That Sean Miller, that Sean Miller wasn't underachieving. Sorry, that's

1027
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:02.679
<v Speaker 7>Sean Miller was under a teeming with Dalen Harry was

1028
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:05.119
<v Speaker 7>nowhere close to the NBA. Christian Cloco was nowhere close

1029
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:07.719
<v Speaker 7>to the NBA or even being a playable in terms

1030
00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:08.400
<v Speaker 7>of Star Wars.

1031
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:13.880
<v Speaker 22>I'll back up, it's not it was.

1032
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:17.800
<v Speaker 8>Hold on, hold on, hold on, and.

1033
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:21.440
<v Speaker 3>On.

1034
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:23.320
<v Speaker 8>Ben matherm wasn't a lottery bank.

1035
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:24.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand your point.

1036
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:27.159
<v Speaker 1>Done only and are you trying to defend Sean or

1037
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:29.719
<v Speaker 1>trying to to to rag on Tommy.

1038
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:33.920
<v Speaker 22>I'm trying to defend the program. And how much credit

1039
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:34.960
<v Speaker 22>the program.

1040
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:35.719
<v Speaker 2>Brings to the table.

1041
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:38.360
<v Speaker 22>This isn't just it's not just Tommy, but.

1042
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:39.320
<v Speaker 8>Who builds the program?

1043
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:40.079
<v Speaker 22>Just Tommy?

1044
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:41.800
<v Speaker 8>Who builds the programs?

1045
00:49:42.199 --> 00:49:45.400
<v Speaker 2>So so continue So so what you.

1046
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:48.960
<v Speaker 22>Guys are So what you're trying to what you're trying

1047
00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:52.679
<v Speaker 22>to express to me, is it Tommy built this thing

1048
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:53.400
<v Speaker 22>from the stuff?

1049
00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:54.360
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no.

1050
00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:55.239
<v Speaker 3>What I do.

1051
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:58.039
<v Speaker 22>What I'm saying is is I don't agree with that,

1052
00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:00.760
<v Speaker 22>and he's still acts that way.

1053
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:03.840
<v Speaker 7>No, Yukon was an elite program. They were broken down.

1054
00:50:03.960 --> 00:50:05.840
<v Speaker 7>They were not the Yukon of old. And then all

1055
00:50:05.880 --> 00:50:07.840
<v Speaker 7>of a sudden, Dan Hurley comes in. Win's back back

1056
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:11.400
<v Speaker 7>national championships. They're back where they were, Donny.

1057
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:13.800
<v Speaker 1>The average price in this town is what the house maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say four to fifty, just average. Okay, So Temmy

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<v Speaker 1>inherited a house that was like a two seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>and needed some work, and now he's got it to

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<v Speaker 1>about four fifty. It's he had to work with this.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no question he did some pretty good players.

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<v Speaker 2>But guess what to.

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<v Speaker 1>Choice point, Sean wasn't doing anything with this team. You

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<v Speaker 1>ever did you ever did a hot women woman?

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<v Speaker 2>Donny? You know how difficult that is?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 22>Yeah, No, No, he's saying. You know what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 22>is all I'm saying is is Tommy dude didn't do everything.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, but he did.

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<v Speaker 22>Kay were there the whole time. He said, he's in

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<v Speaker 22>his fourth year and he doesn't have it sold out. Okay,

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<v Speaker 22>we go as far as seats goes, We're going back

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<v Speaker 22>to nineteen eighty five. Oh no, we didn't get sold

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<v Speaker 22>out until sewn until Shawn Elliott graduated high school. Shohn

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<v Speaker 22>Elliotts freshman year was the first year they were sold out.

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<v Speaker 2>We gotta go.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta go, but we'll have this discussion next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Promise we aim out the next two days. Thank you, done,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you,
