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Speaker 1: Sports fourteen fifty MCI Rivera, your Troy, your one, and
Speaker 1: your Ray.
Speaker 2: You gotta breaking news now.
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Speaker 4: Ball breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty eight.
Speaker 5: All right, got some breaking news for today, starting off
Speaker 5: with a quick update with the first four game. We
Speaker 5: got Mount Saint Mary's and American tied at twenty two
Speaker 5: in the back half of the first half.
Speaker 6: So that, I mean, that's gonna be interesting. I think those.
Speaker 1: Are more even teams, right because they're like last night.
Speaker 1: Last night's game North Carolina s San Diego State. I
Speaker 1: thought that was a runaway even before the game started
Speaker 1: because if North Carolina, it's like one of those If
Speaker 1: Arizona plays well, they should do well. But the think
Speaker 1: about it, they have to play the other team. Like
Speaker 1: last night, if y, if North North Carolina plays well,
Speaker 1: they'll they should.
Speaker 2: Win that game. And they played out of their mind
Speaker 2: with a lot to prove.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean they looked like a team ready, ready
Speaker 7: to make a run and angry about everybody questioned they
Speaker 7: should be in right?
Speaker 2: Who they playing out Memphis? Who they playing?
Speaker 8: Oh, miss Olmos.
Speaker 2: That should be fun.
Speaker 8: That should be the game. Yeah, they could win that
Speaker 8: one too, I think so. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Also, the other game was oh man, it was an
Speaker 5: nobody went all the way down to the end.
Speaker 1: The play, the play itself was it was won. I
Speaker 1: had one of those plays you put you were way
Speaker 1: before you were born, the macshot where they threw it
Speaker 1: from under the under the basket from this end to
Speaker 1: that end. They fumbled it and McMillan picked it up
Speaker 1: and put it in just like yesterday, right, just kind
Speaker 1: of found the ball.
Speaker 2: And put it in.
Speaker 8: Was that eighty eight or eighty nine?
Speaker 1: It was eighty eighty six eighty seven, so okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: could have been even before that eighty six.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And other tournament news.
Speaker 5: Funny enough, Pima is advancing to the quarterfinals after ninety
Speaker 5: nine to sixty five win against Sunny Niagara and they're
Speaker 5: gonna be playing the eight seed Davidson Davy Community College.
Speaker 6: Well, actually both teams have the women did.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the women's did too, and they're gonna play Lincoln
Speaker 5: Land Community College tonight.
Speaker 7: You know, nobody really talks about Pima athletics, but Pima basketball,
Speaker 7: for both men's and women's they have been so consistent
Speaker 7: over the last several years Peabody and coach uh I
Speaker 7: can't remember. Why am I not getting off the name?
Speaker 7: You know what I'm trying to think of the women's
Speaker 7: basketball coach Old House do a terrific job there, well
Speaker 7: respected coaches, just a tremendous job there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean, and then the men's team hasn't lost.
Speaker 5: I don't think all year. No, I think I think
Speaker 5: they're like thirty three or something. So that's I mean,
Speaker 5: could be wrong, but yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Bringing it back to more yo a stuff.
Speaker 5: The baseball team beat Kansas yesterday, so eight and oh
Speaker 5: or eight two to oh, sorry, and they're thirteen at home,
Speaker 5: thirteen and zero at home. Now, they had a nine
Speaker 5: game homestretch, one undefeated in that too.
Speaker 7: You know, Kansas was playing high level, high level baseball
Speaker 7: coming into that series. I believe they won like seven
Speaker 7: in a row before a loss here and there. But
Speaker 7: look at the Big twelve, some good baseball being played,
Speaker 7: and yet no respect. I don't think any Big twelve
Speaker 7: team ranked yet in the eight people or the rankings don't.
Speaker 7: It's not ap but you know what I'm talking about
Speaker 7: the national rankings, and Arizona looks like they're on the
Speaker 7: cups of that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they've been ever since that tournament in Texas. You know,
Speaker 5: they've been kind of on a roll.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think they were suspected to be good, good.
Speaker 8: In terms of for this conference. I think so.
Speaker 7: They're ranked in the top twenty five to start the year.
Speaker 7: Again that tournament. Early on in the season, they struggled mightily,
Speaker 7: found their way back. And you know, this is a
Speaker 7: big twelve conference. Arizona, Kansas playing well, Oklahoma State playing well.
Speaker 7: Outside that, there's not the depth that there was in
Speaker 7: the PAC twelve.
Speaker 5: Yeah, keeping it going. Softball moved up into the ten spot.
Speaker 5: They were eleven last week, moved up into ten. They
Speaker 5: played GCU tonight and then have the ASU series over
Speaker 5: the weekend up in Tempe. So it'll be pretty pretty interesting.
Speaker 5: Some more news that we kind of know about already.
Speaker 5: The girls start their tournament tomorrow here against NAU and
Speaker 5: the w B I T, which I found out is
Speaker 5: actually different from.
Speaker 6: The w n I T. It's told the two different terms,
Speaker 6: two different things.
Speaker 5: So I guess the w n I T is privately
Speaker 5: owned while the w B I T is n cua
Speaker 5: A owned. Also, all those games are going to be
Speaker 5: like on ESPN affiliates like for the w B I T.
Speaker 5: It's also a different number of teams stuff like that.
Speaker 5: So yeah, a little interesting in there.
Speaker 1: Let me give you a heads up because you might
Speaker 1: not might do it again. So when we're covering college games,
Speaker 1: this is probably you don't know where maybe the style stuff.
Speaker 1: When they're college the women, they're women. Okay, when they're
Speaker 1: in high school they're girls. Okay, that's just how it is,
Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, because I call the girls to that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: makes sense.
Speaker 6: Keeping it in the vault. But yeah, other big news.
Speaker 6: Uh talked about it a little bit earlier.
Speaker 5: The football team started their spring trainings spring ball yesterday,
Speaker 5: and I guess some of the big things that came
Speaker 5: out of that was Brennan putting a big emphasis on culture,
Speaker 5: you know, trying to establish the culture and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So let me, I said, because everybody has that right,
Speaker 1: everybody has to have their culture. What does it mean here?
Speaker 1: He talked about that originally when he came. You weren't there, right,
Speaker 1: you didn't go to you were there, and he you know,
Speaker 1: he had his notes and he wanted to speak about
Speaker 1: a few things. Bullet point type of stuff in culture,
Speaker 1: and you know, I didn't want to ask any questions.
Speaker 1: That's not my space football, And I'm thinking what does
Speaker 1: he mean by that? Because everybody wants to have a culture.
Speaker 1: What do you think that's his?
Speaker 6: What do you get?
Speaker 8: What his? Or what Arizona historically?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: No, his is because historically what is historically?
Speaker 7: What is I think historically for Arizona. If you're looking
Speaker 7: at the tomy Larry Smith and even Jim Young and
Speaker 7: Mike Stoops, Era's uh toughness, it's gritty. It's running the football,
Speaker 7: hard nosed defense, and recruiting the Polynesian community.
Speaker 2: Okay, so is what you get out of it?
Speaker 10: So yeah, working with the underdog always going to be doubted.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, but isn't That's okay, That's always been the culture.
Speaker 1: It's like when people talk about the space of the
Speaker 1: nil and the money the kids are going to get, Well,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna be I'm saying speaking this Arizona that week.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna get the Ohio State guys, Texas guys
Speaker 1: because they have all that money, right, Well, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to go to the three stars and coach them up.
Speaker 1: Guess what before you were born Troy before you were
Speaker 1: born one. That's just how it is. Whether Nil was
Speaker 1: here or not, It's always been the case.
Speaker 8: I'll say this.
Speaker 7: The only time where it's been different and it didn't
Speaker 7: last on was Jetfish because they expected to win that
Speaker 7: third season when once the quarterback changed happened and once
Speaker 7: he saw them played tight against Washington and USC there
Speaker 7: wasn't a game they thought they could have went out there.
Speaker 7: So the culture changed for for that period I'm saying
Speaker 7: for for what Jetfish was establishing. They got ted Taro
Speaker 7: McMillan away from Oregon, they got some other.
Speaker 1: So you're probably telling me because I'm not speaking out
Speaker 1: of my my butt here, But Jed had a different mentality, right.
Speaker 1: He had not a swagger, but he had a There
Speaker 1: was a confidence is a great word. He had that
Speaker 1: my stuff doesn't stink and it's going to be better
Speaker 1: than yours kind of rich Rod had that to a
Speaker 1: degree to degree.
Speaker 2: But but maybe Jed's a little different.
Speaker 7: Jed is the best recruiter Arizona Football's ever had. I
Speaker 7: would say I think he's the best recruiter Arizona's ever had.
Speaker 8: Troy.
Speaker 10: I mean, I think with rich Rod it was a
Speaker 10: little bit of doubt coming from Michigan and how that
Speaker 10: ended with with Jed, it was a little bit of
Speaker 10: the unknown, So why not take a chance on it?
Speaker 7: And I think with rich Rod, the mentality is of yeah,
Speaker 7: you may you know, get us in the first half.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna help coach you. I'm gonna make the adjustment.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna beat you in.
Speaker 1: And he did because he was He's a smart football coach.
Speaker 1: But I think mentality to heat he realized he only had.
Speaker 2: The three stars.
Speaker 1: The old KG is right, the three stars, and maybe
Speaker 1: we'll get a four star and we'll coach him.
Speaker 8: When you don't recruit, well, you come a no no, no, no.
Speaker 2: No exactly, Hey make me America great again?
Speaker 7: Where Jad, I'm not going down that right where Jad
Speaker 7: he was out offering for or five star kids and
Speaker 7: they're saying, you're Arizona.
Speaker 8: Why are you offering right?
Speaker 7: Because we don't care where Arizona and we're gonna be better.
Speaker 7: Want to be a part What you need? You need that,
Speaker 7: you need that, you need that, and you what that
Speaker 7: costs a lot of money now now? And then I well,
Speaker 7: once once they prove it, I'm saying I'm saying for
Speaker 7: the coach. Once the coach proves he can do it,
Speaker 7: it costs a lot of money.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I totally agree with you, Joy, because
Speaker 1: you you saw that with him. It was not a
Speaker 1: it was a subtle but not subtle thing because he
Speaker 1: was Jed and this is I've been here, I've been here.
Speaker 7: Here's my resume. But you need that, and it was
Speaker 7: and it was different. I don't know if I should
Speaker 7: say this, but I'm gonna. I'm gonna say this. No, no,
Speaker 7: I'm not I'm not cussing. I'm not cussing. But Jed's
Speaker 7: first meeting with the alumni association. Every coach meets with
Speaker 7: the alumnis and oh hi, I'm da da da da.
Speaker 7: He showed them the facilities at Alabama, Oregon, we did Georgia,
Speaker 7: some high level secs and he goes, you want to
Speaker 7: be as good as them, We need your money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he was great at that.
Speaker 7: And they're like, excuse me, Like, you guys are on
Speaker 7: a twenty game losing streak. It's your first thing on job.
Speaker 7: Who you know? Are you to tell me that? But
Speaker 7: he was right, yeah, but you don't right.
Speaker 2: And eventually eventually I'm not gonna dog him. We're not
Speaker 2: gonna not gonna.
Speaker 1: He did what he did and this town needs to
Speaker 1: be thankful for that.
Speaker 7: This this town will hate to hear this, but it's
Speaker 7: one of the most impressive turnarounds in college football. Yeah,
Speaker 7: you went from Kansas level football and no offense Kansas,
Speaker 7: but let's be honest, Kansas football isn't very good. So
Speaker 7: all of a sudden at the end of the season
Speaker 7: in that third year, if they didn't have the slow
Speaker 7: start with Jada de Laura, you're talking about a team
Speaker 7: that could have competed for the college football playoffs.
Speaker 8: And I think only.
Speaker 7: Michigan Oregon were the only two teams and maybe a Georgia,
Speaker 7: a physical team that Yeah, they're not beating those teams.
Speaker 7: The rest of the country, they could beat them on
Speaker 7: any given night.
Speaker 8: What have you been drinking? I think just that one team,
Speaker 8: just that one team.
Speaker 5: Also, to kind of add to that, Jed was really good,
Speaker 5: like what you kind of mentioned it with the alums,
Speaker 5: but like working his like network, because I mean, you know,
Speaker 5: you get Pete Carroll's son. Obviously, he goes to Washington,
Speaker 5: he gets Bill Belichicks, But I mean, why is Belichick
Speaker 5: and two soon like that.
Speaker 6: I remember when like that came out and I was like, man, no,
Speaker 6: he was.
Speaker 1: Now what you can kind of look back and get
Speaker 1: the full view of it. Very impressive, and I think
Speaker 1: you were just talking about him the bravado that he had.
Speaker 1: He didn't do it with us much, but I'm sure
Speaker 1: in the back of his mind, I kind of talk.
Speaker 2: To these nitwos. Oh you know what I'm saying. These
Speaker 2: are hooky guys.
Speaker 1: You know, I deal with the NFL these guys all
Speaker 1: the time, and these guys are asking me questions, what
Speaker 1: do you think he left?
Speaker 7: And he definitely had an ego because he looked at
Speaker 7: when Kenny Dellingham went from Oregon to ASU.
Speaker 8: He did not like Kenny Dillingham very.
Speaker 7: Much because there was similar soyl in terms of offensive
Speaker 7: quarterback coach, guru coach Kenny Dillon him. He goes over
Speaker 7: to a su and everybody's like, oh, they got the
Speaker 7: quarterback whisper. I remember him talking to some of us
Speaker 7: on that. He goes, I'm going to developing quarterbacks too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well see it, so you have a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff because we're going to be running out of time. Okay,
Speaker 1: So now you have he leaves and he takes with
Speaker 1: him his bravado.
Speaker 2: Now you have a.
Speaker 1: Brennan Brennan who doesn't have that. Maybe he does and
Speaker 1: we don't see it, but he doesn't have that. So
Speaker 1: Arizona lost that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it lost somewhat of an edge to the coaching staff. Yes,
Speaker 7: I think I think Jed set the tone for his
Speaker 7: staff of how they were going to bring. I don't
Speaker 7: think a lot of those coaches, I don't think everybody
Speaker 7: knew were going to be very good coaches. Brennan, Brennan Carroll,
Speaker 7: he basically got kicked out of the NFL. He went
Speaker 7: from an offense offensive line coach, the game passing game
Speaker 7: control coach, to run game control coach to Arizona.
Speaker 8: So you're kind of on your way out.
Speaker 7: I mean, you're no longer the offensive line coach being
Speaker 7: demotor kind of there. And then you have some other
Speaker 7: like Scottie Graham, never coached to day in his life.
Speaker 7: You get him from ASU's administration. All of a sudden,
Speaker 7: your running backs are good, your offensive line is good.
Speaker 7: It starts to develop. You set the tone from the
Speaker 7: from the top down, where I think Brennan and his
Speaker 7: coaching staff I think it's in terms of on paper,
Speaker 7: a really good assistant coaching staff, But do you trust
Speaker 7: the head coach to set the down?
Speaker 1: So I know you've been here just you know, ten
Speaker 1: years or whatever, I've been here a long time and
Speaker 1: not just but.
Speaker 2: Who has bigger egos?
Speaker 1: But these college coaches, right, they make a ton of
Speaker 1: money and you have, but you have to have those.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna have a big ego, you better well
Speaker 1: win some games.
Speaker 7: Heck, they're soccer coaches with big egos, and you're you're
Speaker 7: not making the money that the football and the basketball
Speaker 7: and the you know coaches are making.
Speaker 1: So what do you think? Same thing ego wise. So
Speaker 1: you've been around, you saw something that Brennan doesn't have that, but.
Speaker 2: Not not as much as Jet Fish did.
Speaker 10: You know Fish would walk around campus, go to the
Speaker 10: little Starbucks right there, and you know he would have
Speaker 10: that charmed him. Yeah, yeah, you go, hey, coach, Hey, guys,
Speaker 10: how you doing. Yeah, he's a salesman, salesman and you
Speaker 10: you wanted to go and support Arizona football because of that.
Speaker 2: Well, and that's what made him good too. He knew
Speaker 2: how to play the game.
Speaker 7: I'll say this, when he was at a basketball game,
Speaker 7: or he was on campus the camp, the students and
Speaker 7: everybody knew, oh that's the football coach. Brennan's passing out
Speaker 7: pizza at a U of a game. Oh cool, thanks
Speaker 7: for the pizza, because you and me, he's just a
Speaker 7: normal dude, like, oh okay, cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well tom Temmy's that, but he's he's got that
Speaker 1: personality too. He's got that Oh shucks, but I'm Tommy Lloyd.
Speaker 7: But the difference is you're the head coach of Arizona basketball.
Speaker 1: Right away, he's won games, yeah yeah, yeah, and right away,
Speaker 1: even when he first came here, he said, that's Timmy Lloyd.
Speaker 2: You know this new guy.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna shut you off here. Okay, thanks, thanks
Speaker 1: for We're gonna come back with Jay. Who knows we're
Speaker 1: gonna talking to him about this ego stuff. Who bigger
Speaker 1: than Jay?
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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back to Why in the Ball Here on
Speaker 1: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve your Troy. We got
Speaker 1: Jue with us, and we got Ray. Now we've got
Speaker 1: Jay on the phone. Jay Hawaii sounds like you got
Speaker 1: a role full of people over there just bringing my
Speaker 1: kids to work Today's so they're all here, my child
Speaker 1: support people, yeah, my driver, right, Yeah, this show wouldn't
Speaker 1: go without them.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Hey, we're talking about a lot of different things. So
Speaker 1: one of the things we're talking about just randomly about
Speaker 1: football and coaching. And you've been here a long time
Speaker 1: obviously seeing some coaches. Uh, and we're talking about Jed specifically,
Speaker 1: with the other coaches sprinkled in with egos, and then
Speaker 1: we're thinking that you have to have that ego to
Speaker 1: be a good one, right, to be a good coach.
Speaker 3: I just have a bit of an ego for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So so the guys that you saw from let's before
Speaker 1: Jimmy Young, I guess you were how many you have,
Speaker 1: fifteen years old?
Speaker 2: Maybe then?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was in junior high and early high school
Speaker 3: when jim Young was here.
Speaker 2: Did he have that?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 8: There was no way for me to.
Speaker 3: Tell that to him. I mean I knew he was
Speaker 3: a good coach because you know, you got a crappy
Speaker 3: team and went eight and three in his first season.
Speaker 3: You never said that, you said that he was sort
Speaker 3: of a down home kind of kind of guy. But
Speaker 3: again I was in early high school so that you know,
Speaker 3: that wasn't as much of a thing to me then
Speaker 3: as you know, as later.
Speaker 1: Okay, So then then you go to uh Mason, Tony Mason.
Speaker 1: He had to Yeah, he had to have ego, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a big enough.
Speaker 3: Ego that he thought he could break all the rules
Speaker 3: and that was just too bad. He was you know,
Speaker 3: he didn't he didn't feel like he had to play
Speaker 3: by the wolves. And then he you know, he he
Speaker 3: he he. He justified it, you know, in ways that
Speaker 3: you know it could people could say, Okay, I get it,
Speaker 3: but he knew the rules and he just didn't feel
Speaker 3: like he had follow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So we go u from him to Larry,
Speaker 2: Larry and Dick.
Speaker 3: Neither one of them. I thought that big eagles. I
Speaker 3: think Larry got one, okay when they got pretty damn good,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden he said I could be
Speaker 3: the USC coach. You have to have a big ego
Speaker 3: to say I don't do that job right. So I
Speaker 3: don't think he came with it. I think I think
Speaker 3: it developed a bit. But I think had he stayed Steve,
Speaker 3: he would have been he would have stayed the same
Speaker 3: been the same guy. He just your clients said, oh wow,
Speaker 3: you know I'm in that neighborhood. I'm taking that because
Speaker 3: I think I can do that job.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then Dick, for sure, he was just one
Speaker 2: of a coach.
Speaker 3: He was a guy. He was just a guy. You know.
Speaker 3: He just wanted to coach football. He wanted to do
Speaker 3: He wanted to mentor guys. He wanted to bring in
Speaker 3: guys that he could change their lives in a positive way.
Speaker 3: He never had the ego. In fact, you know, here's
Speaker 3: the funny thing. It a lot of people think he
Speaker 3: got fired. He did not get fired.
Speaker 8: He resigned.
Speaker 3: Now, he was probably going to get fired, but he
Speaker 3: quit before they fired him. You know, he he I
Speaker 3: mean people, you know, like I said, it's been stead
Speaker 3: over over time.
Speaker 8: He got fired.
Speaker 9: No, he quit.
Speaker 3: He resigned at the end of the ASU game is
Speaker 3: last year. And that was his ego. He's like, I
Speaker 3: don't have to take this anymore. I don't want to
Speaker 3: take this anymore. I want to live my life. I'm leaving.
Speaker 3: And he did that, right.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you go from him two stoops.
Speaker 8: You forgot one big ego? Who I forget?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well forget about Oh God.
Speaker 3: I'm ego could fill McHale Macavis. Ego could fill McHale.
Speaker 3: And the minute he got there, the first time I
Speaker 3: met him, I thought, we're in big trouble, big trouble.
Speaker 3: And then I was I was right, yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean the first time I met him, you know,
Speaker 3: first and person, I met him on the golf course.
Speaker 3: There was a golf tournament and he and he was
Speaker 3: they put him on the hole for he was hitting.
Speaker 3: He would hit a shot for a drive for you
Speaker 3: if you wanted to do. And we walked up there
Speaker 3: and he was like, you guys, suck, I'm going to
Speaker 3: hit your drive kind of thing. And I'm like, and
Speaker 3: not in a joking way.
Speaker 8: You know, it's huge, e.
Speaker 2: Though, massive yeah, And we saw how that went. Then
Speaker 2: then you get stoops.
Speaker 3: Not not nobody was big in Macimic, but I thought
Speaker 3: we had a big eagle from the standpoint that he felt.
Speaker 3: I'm in Twison, Arizona and at the University Arizona, and
Speaker 3: I was at Oklahoma. We won national championships over there,
Speaker 3: and and I don't think he really ever brought himself
Speaker 3: to a level of understanding the fans around here, and
Speaker 3: that we really didn't give a crap where he was.
Speaker 3: We just wanted to win here. And I thought he
Speaker 3: I thought, I thought he never really I thought he
Speaker 3: never really brought his ego down to a level of
Speaker 3: you have a football coach. He kind of still thought,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm in Oklahoma where I win national championships, and
Speaker 3: you guys are beneath me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's fair, I think.
Speaker 3: Then we went to rich Ron, Right, another big ego, right,
Speaker 3: you know, another big eagle guy that just you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: he didn't break rules, but he played by his own rule.
Speaker 3: But I love Rod because he was he was a
Speaker 3: he was a big giant ego, but he was our
Speaker 3: big giant ego, and he was winning games and we
Speaker 3: were having fun, his his his his teams were exciting,
Speaker 3: and we were going to bowl games.
Speaker 2: Yeah okay, So then he's gone and then we get some.
Speaker 3: Oh god, he's right up to with Macavic.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And I think his reputation, at least in
Speaker 1: his mind, tried to solve issues, but he.
Speaker 2: Had it was bad.
Speaker 3: It was just bad, right, right, No, you're you one
Speaker 3: hundred percent correct. I was just like, what the hell?
Speaker 3: You know? You know, you got fired from your job.
Speaker 3: You really shouldn't have any kind of an ego, right, right, right?
Speaker 2: And you fell forward that job, he fell forward into
Speaker 2: this job.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we go from him now to the now
Speaker 1: to the guy who can You kind of started this conversation, Jed,
Speaker 1: who who?
Speaker 2: Who? Go ahead? I want to just get your thoughts
Speaker 2: through a quick Jed.
Speaker 3: Pretty good sized ego. But you know, some some will
Speaker 3: say it was confidence in himself that right. You know,
Speaker 3: guy was a tennis player who became a major college
Speaker 3: football coach, so he wasn't afraid to take chances. He
Speaker 3: wasn't afraid to tell people, Look, I'm pretty damn good
Speaker 3: at what I do. So in that regard, I don't
Speaker 3: think it was an unhealthy big ego. But I thought
Speaker 3: you did have a big ego.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's why we still does. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: why we kind of started this conversation. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people in Tucents need to say thank you
Speaker 1: for doing what we did.
Speaker 2: But he wouldn't be who he was or is without that.
Speaker 3: Ego, right, I agree with that one hundred percent. You know,
Speaker 3: he he had to believe in himself that he could
Speaker 3: do these things, because he was not anybody that you
Speaker 3: looked at and said he could do those things.
Speaker 7: Right, really, I mean the underdog mentality most of his career, right,
Speaker 7: a guy that like tennis guy. And you know, I'm
Speaker 7: on Florida's campus. Can I be one of your analysts?
Speaker 7: It's like who are you? It's like, well, you'll learn
Speaker 7: my name, okay.
Speaker 2: Right, okay, so you go for him.
Speaker 3: Well, I'd be interested to see how all of that
Speaker 3: has changed or not changed at Washington, right. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm at Washington. I'm not at Arizona. I'm at a
Speaker 3: place that's one national championships and there's that expectation. You know,
Speaker 3: I'd be interested to see what he'd liked up there.
Speaker 2: Well, give your example of the first meeting with the guys.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, when Jed first came to campus. You know,
Speaker 7: they meet with the alumni via zoom or whatnot, and
Speaker 7: you know, introduced the new head coach and he had
Speaker 7: a slide ready for them, uh, talking to all the
Speaker 7: former football players of locker rooms and facilities at Georgia, Oregon,
Speaker 7: Alabama and big time programs like that, and he said,
Speaker 7: you guys want to compete at that level we need
Speaker 7: your money. We need that money to compete at that
Speaker 7: level because they have that money. And he's white gap
Speaker 7: and he's right.
Speaker 1: The good thing that he's very good salesman and a
Speaker 1: pretty good coach as we as it turns out, then turned,
Speaker 1: you know, after two years, turned this program into what
Speaker 1: we never thought possible, right at least at that moment.
Speaker 1: So you you have to understand that his ego worked
Speaker 1: for this place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, Yeah, he had to believe he could come
Speaker 3: and do this in Arizona, and he did so.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and again I think he oh, sorry, Jay, go ahead, No,
Speaker 7: go ahead, go ahead, No, I was gonna say, I
Speaker 7: think not only did it show in terms of how
Speaker 7: he carried himself in terms of how he coached, but
Speaker 7: on the recruiting field, on the recruiting trips and recruiting field,
Speaker 7: you go and offer five star kids that Arizona wasn't
Speaker 7: even offering before, and usually you'd get a laugh and
Speaker 7: he's like, no, you know, we're offering you. We're going
Speaker 7: to be good and you should be a part of
Speaker 7: it because you'll be remembered. You'll start at Arizona, you'll
Speaker 7: get big time minutes, big time snaps, and you'll help
Speaker 7: turn around a program. And that's the recruiting pitch he
Speaker 7: sold and it worked and they got to tuo McMillan.
Speaker 8: Out of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, no, okay, yeah, I mean I yeah.
Speaker 2: So let's transition into what they have now another do
Speaker 2: you tell me?
Speaker 3: Yeah? But you know, let's let me say this and
Speaker 3: going back to Dick again, to be a major college
Speaker 3: football coach, you've got to have some sort of an ego, right,
Speaker 3: because it's a hard job. People crap all over you
Speaker 3: all the time, whether you're doing a good job or not,
Speaker 3: as you know with with Tommy Lloyd, and so you
Speaker 3: have a belief in yourself that you're good enough to
Speaker 3: do this. So he's got some bit of an ego maybe,
Speaker 3: But in terms of when you compare these guys, yeah,
Speaker 3: he's definitely in the Dick Toby range more so than
Speaker 3: the even you know, rech rod or or Stoops you
Speaker 3: know Stoops range. You know, you got to have a
Speaker 3: bit of an ego to uh, to be able to
Speaker 3: withstand all the stuff you've got to withstand in this job.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll see there's a conversation what what what what?
Speaker 3: What led to this conversation.
Speaker 1: We were talking about just the success of I think
Speaker 1: he started with Jed right, Yeah, and we kind of
Speaker 1: just manifested into just the kind of egos that you
Speaker 1: need at this level. Now, you know, we have Tommy
Speaker 1: who's kind of got one, but you don't really see
Speaker 1: it because he's just a happy But it's kind of good.
Speaker 1: But no question, just this year, this year, because of
Speaker 1: how he has handled us and handles he's handled the
Speaker 1: outside world.
Speaker 7: And I forget who I was so much of himself
Speaker 7: to himself. Yeah, which is interesting. Yeah, you know, kind
Speaker 7: of I forget who I was talking to about this,
Speaker 7: but you've seen it grow. I think one of the
Speaker 7: big things is you've gone from a Pac Twell conference,
Speaker 7: where you were the dog on the street, you were
Speaker 7: gonna you were probably gonna go top dog, yeah talking basketball,
Speaker 7: to the Big Twelve, where you are now the underdog.
Speaker 7: Nobody thinks you're physical enough, nobody thinks you're talented enough
Speaker 7: to finish in the top three of the Big twelve.
Speaker 7: And now now that gives you a little bit of
Speaker 7: a chip on your shoulder and therefore a little bit
Speaker 7: more of an ego in terms of we're going to
Speaker 7: get this sum and we're in we're gonna do it
Speaker 7: and surprise people along the way. And this year they
Speaker 7: finished third in the Big Twelve. I don't think anybody
Speaker 7: thought they were going to do that, and they become
Speaker 7: one of the more physical teams in the conference as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, I mean I agree, you know, I just
Speaker 3: you know, he's he's he's a bit of a self
Speaker 3: effacing guy, but he's a kind of a serious guy,
Speaker 3: could you know. Yes, he always uh you know, takes
Speaker 3: responsibilities for his think we played bad, it was my fault,
Speaker 3: you know, those kinds of things. And again, you've got
Speaker 3: to have an ego to do that, right to say
Speaker 3: I'm willing to take the hit. I'm comfortable enough in
Speaker 3: my skin to take the hit for that. So it's
Speaker 3: it's not it's kind of a weird thing, right right.
Speaker 1: Okay, So let's move that from now to now where
Speaker 1: he has to have an ego and a good team,
Speaker 1: because all good teams are here. Uh and in the end, Yeah,
Speaker 1: any misstep in the next two weeks or three weeks,
Speaker 1: uh could happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, uh, he's yeah, I mean, he's got
Speaker 3: to he can't. You know, I'm right, he's got to
Speaker 3: have a good he's got to have a really good team,
Speaker 3: and whether he does or not, this year is gonna
Speaker 3: he's gonna, you know, addual a lot as to whether
Speaker 3: or not he gets to stick around Jay. I you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, I think you know, hot hot seats have
Speaker 3: gone from a three year thing to a two year thing,
Speaker 3: right and.
Speaker 7: They just got a new you think No, yeah, No,
Speaker 7: I was gonna ask Jay his thoughts if he is
Speaker 7: able to get through that sweet because right now, the
Speaker 7: Sweet sixteen is that barrier that he hasn't been able
Speaker 7: to break.
Speaker 3: I thought we're talking about Are we talking about Tommy
Speaker 3: or Tommy? Oh, I'm sorry, I'll talk about Bretton. I
Speaker 3: thought we were still talking about Okay, Okay, I see
Speaker 3: what you meant to tom No, Tommy's not anywhere near
Speaker 3: the hot seat. Tommy is now if you want to
Speaker 3: go to that, you know, you know he I mean
Speaker 3: to me, to me, they got to get to the
Speaker 3: Sweet sixteen or it's going to be a rough off
Speaker 3: season for Tommy.
Speaker 7: Well, I was gonna say, is it a better off
Speaker 7: season than think of there? Or do they need to
Speaker 7: get past the Sweet sixteen and break that barrier and
Speaker 7: get to the lead, which Tommy hasn't done yet.
Speaker 3: I don't think they have to because here's what's gonna happen. Okay,
Speaker 3: all these people are going to be talking about outside
Speaker 3: of both sides, that are enough. People are saying you suck,
Speaker 3: You lost twelve games, you're not any good.
Speaker 8: Okay, but you're better.
Speaker 3: Get to the Elite eight because you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: you are who you are. They're a Sweet sixteen team.
Speaker 3: You know they can get to they can get to
Speaker 3: the Elite eight. Part of it's that part of that's
Speaker 3: going to depend on a matchup. But to me, if
Speaker 3: they get to the Sweet sixteen, that's really what you
Speaker 3: can expect. You they finished third in their league, you know,
Speaker 3: and they had a decent year. They you know, if
Speaker 3: they hadn't struggled so much, and you know, if they
Speaker 3: didn't have five losses coming out of non pfer let's
Speaker 3: say they were they had three fewer losses coming out
Speaker 3: of non conference, and some of those would have had
Speaker 3: to be really good. Wiz, you'd say they're an elad eighteen,
Speaker 3: but they're not. You know, there's Sweet sixteen team and
Speaker 3: I think, you know, I think fans don't be fans.
Speaker 3: If they get to the lead eight and don't get
Speaker 3: to the final four, they're still going to be pissed.
Speaker 1: Off, Yeah, because they want more, Because they want more, right, right,
Speaker 1: So are they going to get to the sweet sixteen?
Speaker 3: I think they are. I think they are even even.
Speaker 3: You know, a lot a lot of people are picking
Speaker 3: Oregon to beat them. But you know, I think this
Speaker 3: team is different. I think they're different from a toughness standpoint.
Speaker 3: I think it's a very confident team. Thank Caleb Love
Speaker 3: has been playing well for a few games now. They
Speaker 3: you know, there's some other guys who are stepping up.
Speaker 3: You know, Trey Uh, Trey Townsend had a good few games.
Speaker 9: Uh, you know, uh.
Speaker 3: Your part of we're talking about this, part of this
Speaker 3: is you're wondering about Jayden Bradley and his I don't
Speaker 3: say his stamina right now, He's been playing a lot
Speaker 3: of minutes and because del Also is more or less
Speaker 3: not very functional, you know, kJ is having to come
Speaker 3: in and play in del Orso spot and Jayden Bradley's
Speaker 3: not getting you know, as much time off as maybe
Speaker 3: he could use. He's playing, he's playing with thirty seven
Speaker 3: minutes a game right now over the last several games,
Speaker 3: so you wonder about his legs and his ability to
Speaker 3: you know, to make it through this stuff.
Speaker 8: But I think that.
Speaker 3: I think they're good enough to get to the sweet sixteen,
Speaker 3: and then it just depends on who they play. I say,
Speaker 3: they get to the sweet sixteen and it's not Duke
Speaker 3: to somebody else. Well, then you get into the final eight,
Speaker 3: and I think they can beat Duke. I don't know
Speaker 3: if they will, but I think they can. It's the
Speaker 3: same way I think that even though they lost twice
Speaker 3: to Houston, I think they can beat Houston. I'd rather
Speaker 3: not see those guys, but I think they can beat them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think they would have a harder time against
Speaker 1: Houston a third time than they would against Duke.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 7: I think, Yeah, a great Duke isn't as physical as
Speaker 7: who say they don't slow it down that way?
Speaker 8: Can they choose?
Speaker 1: They're not like Arizona because they're they're more finesse, physical
Speaker 1: and they have talent.
Speaker 7: You know, Houston just be rough you up, and I
Speaker 7: think I think has become more physical tough.
Speaker 2: Who does Duke play in the next round.
Speaker 7: Potentially Baylor or in Mississippi State, and I would I
Speaker 7: would give the edge to Baylor in terms of getting
Speaker 7: to Duke.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, so we'll see, I mean, we'll see
Speaker 1: Arison Eversons capable of Obviously everything has to go well though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, Arizona's not a you know,
Speaker 3: they're not a one seed, and not chis that you
Speaker 3: have this expectation that they're one of the best teams
Speaker 3: in the tournament. But they are somebody that's got good
Speaker 3: enough players, you know, to to make a deep run
Speaker 3: under the right circumstance. Uh And and that that's that's
Speaker 3: what they are. And people have to understand that. Anybody's saying,
Speaker 3: ohth you're better go to the final four, Tommy, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: That those are man, those are the ones I believe
Speaker 2: that the programs of blue Blood.
Speaker 3: You know, we were saying on BBC there.
Speaker 2: We gotta go way over. Thanks Jake, Thanks Jake.
Speaker 3: All right, man, it's fun tuck you guys later, ellone.
Speaker 2: You know, we gotta go and come back. Maybe take
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Speaker 1: on that conversation, but it was a good one. About
Speaker 1: the egoists. Yeah, we don't really talk about that. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about Tommy Miller, Sean Sean had Sean hadwin in
Speaker 1: a different way, you know, and Tommy has one, but
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Speaker 22: Hi, Steve, this is done.
Speaker 2: Hey Don, how are you?
Speaker 22: I'm good. I just it's just funny to hear Jay
Speaker 22: talk and a lot of other people too about giving
Speaker 22: Tommy a pass in what sense? In what sense?
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he if he doesn't get to a certain point.
Speaker 22: He's nowhere near the hot seat. He comes, he comes,
Speaker 22: he's he's you know, instead of instead of coaching the game,
Speaker 22: he's watching the crowd and the timeout festivities at fog Allen.
Speaker 22: And then, uh, you know, he crumbs the program. He
Speaker 22: crumbs McHale, you know, and he acts like he built it.
Speaker 22: You know, he was given the keys to the Cadillac,
Speaker 22: and uh, poor ol Brannan is taking the bus.
Speaker 7: Was it a Cadillac or was it a broken down vehicle?
Speaker 7: Because Sean did not have a running Sean did not
Speaker 7: have a running At the end of his coaching career
Speaker 7: in Arizona.
Speaker 22: It's been it's been competitive since nineteen eighty five. They were, Oh, no, no,
Speaker 22: I've been I've been here the whole thing. No, the
Speaker 22: program is the program.
Speaker 1: No, No, I have to disagree with you at the
Speaker 1: end because Sean, Sean was sputtering at the end. Although
Speaker 1: although he did have the cupboard of Matherin and and
Speaker 1: Matherine and Dalen Terry, who else.
Speaker 2: Was there at Coloco and Coloco? But we didn't know
Speaker 2: how good those guys.
Speaker 22: So so Arizona basketball was busted down to the stone.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 1: It was a yes, yes, you are time up and
Speaker 1: the other thing, Donny, go ahead and you finishing to finish?
Speaker 2: Over you go ahead?
Speaker 22: Okay here you I'll get off of that for a second.
Speaker 22: You were asking about people's X factors, Yes, going into
Speaker 22: the tournament, going into the Big twelve, and going into
Speaker 22: the national tournament. Now mine is Tommy Lloyd himself. In
Speaker 22: your article, Steve, he told you or he he said
Speaker 22: that he mostly did the all access for his friend
Speaker 22: that works at ESPN, right, and he made the big
Speaker 22: old show. And then in the post in the postgame
Speaker 22: press conference, he admitted that Houston was forcing the defensive
Speaker 22: switches that Arizona was was making and getting favorable matchups
Speaker 22: for themselves, and he says, we got to own it. Well,
Speaker 22: what happened to the coach figuring out a plan to
Speaker 22: take that away from the other teamgree So he makes
Speaker 22: a show in the time out and then at the
Speaker 22: end he threw his players under the bus where he
Speaker 22: didn't he did not take the blame. It wasn't on him.
Speaker 22: He goes, we got to own it. Well, you know what,
Speaker 22: he needs to own that part. And that's the part
Speaker 22: that gets me that Tommy gets a pass because Arizona
Speaker 22: wasn't busted down. Arizona wasn't UTEP basketball, which can rise
Speaker 22: up and be competitive at any moment, just like New Mexico.
Speaker 22: If Lude had gone to New Mexico, that that's where
Speaker 22: you know, we'd be, where they'd be where we are now.
Speaker 1: H You know, I kind of agree with this point
Speaker 1: of the of the of the showmanship on the TV
Speaker 1: and asking the guys to to be or to close out.
Speaker 1: Yet he didn't have the plan or this. They didn't
Speaker 1: execute it for whatever reason, they just didn't and and
Speaker 1: done to the point of Houston's pretty damn good, you know,
Speaker 1: pretty damn good.
Speaker 22: So you are taking I'm not taking anything away from
Speaker 22: Houston because they are good. Our guys are good too,
Speaker 22: But for us to go you know, it goes back
Speaker 22: to the this team not defending the three the three
Speaker 22: point shots. Oh geez, let's see from since when. No, No,
Speaker 22: you remember, You're right, you know, and it's it's like,
Speaker 22: how how how has it been so long?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 22: That or Or is the big well just too good
Speaker 22: to defend the Three. No, you're right that he hasn't
Speaker 22: figured that out. I mean he's the coach, he's the
Speaker 22: one that's supposed to make the plan done.
Speaker 1: Let me say this, you are one hundred percent right.
Speaker 1: If they lose Friday, I'm not defending the three. Shame
Speaker 1: on them because they had thirty games to figure that out.
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. And if they lose down
Speaker 1: the road too, that's one of the things they need
Speaker 1: to stop. To your point, I totally disagree. Agree with you,
Speaker 1: hold on.
Speaker 22: And the thing I agree with is this team is
Speaker 22: good enough to beat just about anybody, maybe except for Houston,
Speaker 22: because that's.
Speaker 2: Almost in the mind now.
Speaker 22: But I mean, do we play them. I was gonna
Speaker 22: call in earlier in the week and I was gonna say,
Speaker 22: there's no such thing as a moral victory. Yeah, you
Speaker 22: played really good list last weekend. Yeah, even in that
Speaker 22: loss to Houston, Arizona played really good. Yeah, And it
Speaker 22: would have been if we if they could have figured
Speaker 22: something out here and there, you know, a turnover one
Speaker 22: you know, one or two turnovers last or getting you know,
Speaker 22: or or something you know. Okay, Houston, Houston misses a
Speaker 22: couple of two more shots and maybe that game falls different,
Speaker 22: and who knows what happens.
Speaker 2: Okay, So let's go back.
Speaker 22: To your supert closer to Houston than the record.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't disagree with you, don't. Just they're right there,
Speaker 1: and like you said, after the first last one, they
Speaker 1: paid here. They've worked on this eleven years right, Arizona's
Speaker 1: four years into it. Eventually it'll happen, But who knows
Speaker 1: when we're gonna check some What was the Shawn's last
Speaker 1: couple of years.
Speaker 10: So in the twenty twenty twenty twenty one season, there
Speaker 10: was the COVID season seventeen to nine, the one work
Speaker 10: got canceled at the end because of COVID twenty one
Speaker 10: and eleven, the last full season seventeen and fifteen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think you're trying to rewrite history. Done
Speaker 1: and all due respect, you're trying to run At the
Speaker 1: end of his his tenure, they were sputtering, and it
Speaker 1: wasn't a pretty sputtering. It was other things off the
Speaker 1: court and all that stuff as we know it.
Speaker 22: And it was the off the court stuff, which when
Speaker 22: when when that stuff came out, it was somebody told me,
Speaker 22: they're going, why would why would DeAndre Ayton come to Arizona.
Speaker 22: Something's fishy because Sean Miller is not a big He's
Speaker 22: not a big man coach, you know.
Speaker 8: Well, I mean I was, I was at that point
Speaker 8: in time.
Speaker 2: No, I hear you. But he was also a good,
Speaker 2: good recruiter, you know, to a certain degree.
Speaker 22: But the thing is, to your point, a good recruiter,
Speaker 22: and it's stunk and and maybe all that outside stuff.
Speaker 22: I mean, I'm sure you know he was looking over
Speaker 22: his shoulder and his and his attention was divided, which
Speaker 22: we know that when Sean Miller, Sean Miller is, he
Speaker 22: wants to be on the court. He wants to be
Speaker 22: on the court, you know, And and that and I
Speaker 22: just I just think that the program is still the program,
Speaker 22: and the program and everything that it entails. McHale's Center,
Speaker 22: the history, all of that counts for something. All of
Speaker 22: it counts for something. And how good was Tommy Lloyd's
Speaker 22: first season with Sean Miller's leftovers.
Speaker 7: That Sean Miller, that Sean Miller wasn't underachieving. Sorry, that's
Speaker 7: Sean Miller was under a teeming with Dalen Harry was
Speaker 7: nowhere close to the NBA. Christian Cloco was nowhere close
Speaker 7: to the NBA or even being a playable in terms
Speaker 7: of Star Wars.
Speaker 22: I'll back up, it's not it was.
Speaker 8: Hold on, hold on, hold on, and.
Speaker 3: On.
Speaker 8: Ben matherm wasn't a lottery bank.
Speaker 2: I don't understand your point.
Speaker 1: Done only and are you trying to defend Sean or
Speaker 1: trying to to to rag on Tommy.
Speaker 22: I'm trying to defend the program. And how much credit
Speaker 22: the program.
Speaker 2: Brings to the table.
Speaker 22: This isn't just it's not just Tommy, but.
Speaker 8: Who builds the program?
Speaker 22: Just Tommy?
Speaker 8: Who builds the programs?
Speaker 2: So so continue So so what you.
Speaker 22: Guys are So what you're trying to what you're trying
Speaker 22: to express to me, is it Tommy built this thing
Speaker 22: from the stuff?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: What I do.
Speaker 22: What I'm saying is is I don't agree with that,
Speaker 22: and he's still acts that way.
Speaker 7: No, Yukon was an elite program. They were broken down.
Speaker 7: They were not the Yukon of old. And then all
Speaker 7: of a sudden, Dan Hurley comes in. Win's back back
Speaker 7: national championships. They're back where they were, Donny.
Speaker 1: The average price in this town is what the house maybe,
Speaker 1: let's say four to fifty, just average. Okay, So Temmy
Speaker 1: inherited a house that was like a two seventy five
Speaker 1: and needed some work, and now he's got it to
Speaker 1: about four fifty. It's he had to work with this.
Speaker 1: There's no question he did some pretty good players.
Speaker 2: But guess what to.
Speaker 1: Choice point, Sean wasn't doing anything with this team. You
Speaker 1: ever did you ever did a hot women woman?
Speaker 2: Donny? You know how difficult that is?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 22: Yeah, No, No, he's saying. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 22: is all I'm saying is is Tommy dude didn't do everything.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, but he did.
Speaker 22: Kay were there the whole time. He said, he's in
Speaker 22: his fourth year and he doesn't have it sold out. Okay,
Speaker 22: we go as far as seats goes, We're going back
Speaker 22: to nineteen eighty five. Oh no, we didn't get sold
Speaker 22: out until sewn until Shawn Elliott graduated high school. Shohn
Speaker 22: Elliotts freshman year was the first year they were sold out.
Speaker 2: We gotta go.
Speaker 1: We gotta go, but we'll have this discussion next week.
Speaker 1: Promise we aim out the next two days. Thank you, done,
Speaker 1: thank you,