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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. One

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<v Speaker 1>Peter five eight, be of sober spirit. Be on the

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<v Speaker 1>alert your adversary. The devil prowls around like a roaring

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<v Speaker 1>lion seeking someone to devour. Now why this matters or

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<v Speaker 1>why I bring it up at all? It kind of

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<v Speaker 1>points to how the enemy works and what the devil

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<v Speaker 1>does to get in to your life, to get a

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<v Speaker 1>foothold in your life. As you could imagine that one

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<v Speaker 1>Peter five to eight verse that I read to you

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<v Speaker 1>is the imagery if you've ever seen a lion on

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<v Speaker 1>the prowl, that kind of moving back and forth, waiting

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<v Speaker 1>to pounce. But they wait for that perfect, perfect moment,

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<v Speaker 1>as does the enemy. And there are things that you

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<v Speaker 1>do every day that open up little doors or windows

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<v Speaker 1>into your life. And the things with spirituality that people

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand. And something that makes it difficult to even

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<v Speaker 1>understand what I do and Christianity is that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>come barging into your life. You see, the door to

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<v Speaker 1>your heart is one way. You have the key, you

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<v Speaker 1>have the lock, you have the knob. Everything is in

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<v Speaker 1>your hands. Who you open it for is up to you. Fame, fortune, power,

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<v Speaker 1>what money, whatever it is that you think you want that,

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<v Speaker 1>if you open up that door for that, if you

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<v Speaker 1>say it all costs, no matter what it takes, that's

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<v Speaker 1>when you welcome in the enemy. Ephesians four twenty seven says, simply,

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<v Speaker 1>do not give the devil an opportunity. Don't give any foothold. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not about finding the devil in every nook and

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<v Speaker 1>cranny in your life. It's about seeing the consequences of

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<v Speaker 1>you inviting the devil into your life. It's not that

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<v Speaker 1>the devil's going to show up pitchfork in hand, sharpening

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<v Speaker 1>his horns and breathing fire and saying so uh, guiding

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<v Speaker 1>plans tonight. I just kind of hoping we can hang out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not how it works. Tewod Corinthians eleven fourteen says,

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<v Speaker 1>no wonder for even Satan disguises himself as an angel

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<v Speaker 1>of light. It's very easy to be distracted by the

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<v Speaker 1>things of the world and to want them in such

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<v Speaker 1>a way that you're willing to just crack open the

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<v Speaker 1>window or crack open the door to get noticed or

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<v Speaker 1>to move ahead. And that's all it takes. That little

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<v Speaker 1>opening ushers in a world of pain. If you find

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<v Speaker 1>parents to say I just want to be a best

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<v Speaker 1>friend or a buddy to my child. That is a

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<v Speaker 1>lazy parent that doesn't want the accountability that comes with

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<v Speaker 1>being a parent. And as a believer, when you proclaim

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<v Speaker 1>Christ as your savior, when you say that I am

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<v Speaker 1>at the helm in your life, it is so important

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't open these windows to the enemy because

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<v Speaker 1>he wants you the most. He wants nothing more than

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<v Speaker 1>to take someone that has faith and has proclaimed that

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<v Speaker 1>faith in public and drag them through the mud. His

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<v Speaker 1>desire is to destroy, to destroy everything you have, to

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<v Speaker 1>make it look like you're going to get every wish

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<v Speaker 1>you could possibly wish for, only to use those things

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<v Speaker 1>against you. It's so you know, there's been books and

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<v Speaker 1>television shows and movies written about these very things, searching

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<v Speaker 1>after those goals. The entire Twilight Zone series is basically

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<v Speaker 1>based upon the misconception of what you want and what

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<v Speaker 1>you get in life. All you want is to be

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<v Speaker 1>alone and to read. Well, then you lose your glasses, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they get broken. I saw an episode yesterday where it

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<v Speaker 1>involved the time machine and a man that was brought

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<v Speaker 1>from the eighteen hundreds, right as he was about to

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<v Speaker 1>be hanged. He was brought into modern society. The whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing ends with another criminal cornering that eighteen hundred criminal,

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<v Speaker 1>killing him and then putting himself in the time machine

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<v Speaker 1>that he didn't even know what it was, and ending

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<v Speaker 1>up going back to the eighteen hundreds at the exact

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<v Speaker 1>moment and was hanged. Now, it's easy to sit back

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<v Speaker 1>and watch all the pieces unfold, but when it's your life,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're actually as my producer Neil often says, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the pool, it's hard to see what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on in the waters. That's why they have lifeguards outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the pool. And I know it's not fun to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the devil. It just sounds like bad Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>Morning radio, actually is what it's said, and that's the

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<v Speaker 1>last thing we want to sound like. But you have

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<v Speaker 1>to know that the enemy is real, and the enemy

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<v Speaker 1>plays a part in your life, and the size of

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<v Speaker 1>that part is up to you, and how you deal

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<v Speaker 1>with it is up to you. These spiritualists and these

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<v Speaker 1>people that are so they seem so open minded about things,

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<v Speaker 1>are only opening themselves up to every possibility the enemy

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<v Speaker 1>has for them. But as a person of faith, as

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<v Speaker 1>someone who proclaims Christianity. You are to defend yourself against

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<v Speaker 1>these things. How I'll tell you, the enemy is one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things that a lot of people don't know

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<v Speaker 1>whether to make real to make fake. It's this cartoon character, pitchfork,

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<v Speaker 1>this image of the devil, Satan, the enemy, the deceiver,

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<v Speaker 1>the destroyer, the liar. Ephesians four to twenty seven says,

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<v Speaker 1>do not give the devil an opportunity. That there are

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<v Speaker 1>things that you do in your life where you just

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<v Speaker 1>crack open the door. You think, ah, it's gonna be okay.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just gonna let the enemy in. And as believers,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to protect yourself because he's waiting for opportunities.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not about these folks that say that the

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<v Speaker 1>devil's under you know, the devil made me do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Devil's under every rock in your life. But the devil

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<v Speaker 1>is real. And there are opportunities that you make even

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<v Speaker 1>easier for the enemy to get in your life. But

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<v Speaker 1>you have the control there. It says in scripture that

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<v Speaker 1>Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to come to you right in your face and

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<v Speaker 1>say I'm the devil. Let me in because you wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>James four seven says, submit therefore to God, resist the devil,

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<v Speaker 1>and he will flee from you. Resist, resist the things

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<v Speaker 1>of the world, Resist the things of the enemy. Resist

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<v Speaker 1>those things that would have you going against your moral

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<v Speaker 1>code and what you believe. Romans sixteen twenty says, the

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<v Speaker 1>God of Peace will soon crush Satan under your feet.

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<v Speaker 1>The grace of our Lord Jesus be with you. That

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<v Speaker 1>is what ends up at the end. Until that time,

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<v Speaker 1>you are to put on the full armor of God.

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<v Speaker 1>When you have a moment, go to Ephesians six and

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<v Speaker 1>read read about that armor and what you are to

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<v Speaker 1>do to embolden yourself, to strengthen yourself, to protect yourself

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<v Speaker 1>from the enemy, because he's looking for those openings, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if you proclaim Christianity to be your faith. He's looking

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<v Speaker 1>for that opportunity, that opening to come in and to

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<v Speaker 1>destroy as only the devil does.

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<v Speaker 2>Ron.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Jesus Christ. Show hi you right, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>good sir. How can I help you?

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<v Speaker 3>I had a question about Exodus when they're in the plagues, when.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy had killed all of Pharaoh's horses.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, my question is how did Pharaoh then.

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<v Speaker 2>Chase Moses to the Red Sea, where to get those horses?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it doesn't state This is often confused because of

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<v Speaker 1>the way that it reads. It actually talks about the

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<v Speaker 1>cattle in the field and the horses, and some people

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<v Speaker 1>missed that part. It's talking about the cattle in the field.

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<v Speaker 1>The pharaohs and the kings did not keep their animals

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<v Speaker 1>in the field the same way. So if it was

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<v Speaker 1>his horses and these are the ones that carry his

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<v Speaker 1>chariots and the like, they aren't the ones that are

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<v Speaker 1>in the field. Often the term all is used that

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<v Speaker 1>way as well. In scripture, you'll find that the term all,

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<v Speaker 1>just like in modern day, is sometimes talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>great majority of, or the greater part of, or all

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<v Speaker 1>of a particular category, and not necessarily all, as in

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<v Speaker 1>the total sum of So in the context, if you

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<v Speaker 1>read it over again and you take a look, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>see that it's talking about the cattle in the field specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>and the horses and the oxen and that. And when

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<v Speaker 1>it's referring to all, it's not referring to all the

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<v Speaker 1>total sum of all the animals. It's referring And you

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<v Speaker 1>see this too, because it's even separating the Israeli animals

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<v Speaker 1>and all of this. So it's in context. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>all of the animals, it's all of the animals in

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<v Speaker 1>the field in that particular category. And therefore, when you

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<v Speaker 1>come across it, some people think, oh, well, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like a contradiction. It is not. It is a category

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<v Speaker 1>distinction as to what's going on, and in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>it's talking about the cattles in the field and not

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<v Speaker 1>the pharaohs. All of the Pharaoh's true cattle and war

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<v Speaker 1>horses that would be separate and installs and stables and

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<v Speaker 1>not in the field as the rest. James, Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I am well, James, how are you fine?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a driver. I don't get to attend church on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>but I attend through the radio. Well, very thankful for

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<v Speaker 2>your show.

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<v Speaker 1>We sure would love to have you in church. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy you're joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>My question deals with and it may be a green

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<v Speaker 2>thing on my part that I haven't been able to overcome,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm an early Christians, so I'm struggling with a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of questions. But the one on my mind today

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<v Speaker 2>is uh, justification between someone who say, let's has had

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<v Speaker 2>money all their lives, fancy cars, all the girls, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all the good stuff, and becomes a Christian and gets

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<v Speaker 2>their rewards at heaven compared to a person who has

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<v Speaker 2>been poor and desolate all their life, who also has

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<v Speaker 2>their reward in heaven. It just it seems like one

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<v Speaker 2>is getting the rewards on heaven and earth and one

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it. I just I wondered if you could touch

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<v Speaker 2>on the I don't know the fairness of it. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's not supposed to be fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's excellent. I mean you you bring up a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of really good points, James, and I know that

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't seem fair, But it's also perspective as well.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of qualifiers in your question, meaning that, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to kind of qualify one what is fair too.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to qualify what's good and what's what's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the rewards, because one reward to somebody is

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<v Speaker 1>not a reward to another person. Ye, So the assumption

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<v Speaker 1>that having wine women in song as a reward, I

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<v Speaker 1>understand where it comes from. But uh, that's more you know,

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<v Speaker 1>country music theology than it is Bible theology. There the

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<v Speaker 1>key is My producer Neil always jokes that he can

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<v Speaker 1>teach a man to get any woman he once, as

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<v Speaker 1>long as the guy can learn to want the women

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<v Speaker 1>he can get. And so when it comes to life,

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<v Speaker 1>God wants you to see life differently, not to see

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<v Speaker 1>those as rewards in the same way that the world does,

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<v Speaker 1>but to see to be in a state of joy

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<v Speaker 1>when those things are absent. Most people James tend to

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<v Speaker 1>find ah think that joy. They mistake joy and happiness.

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<v Speaker 1>Happiness is a momentary feeling of joy due to a happening,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning that if you get something, you know, a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of cake, then you go whoo, I got a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of cake. I'm happy, and you go this is great.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the cake's gone and you go, ah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no more cake. Yeah, you know what, you'd get along

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<v Speaker 1>just very well with the crew here at the Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>Christ Show. So there's this this thing where it's not

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<v Speaker 1>about the cake. If it's only about the cake, the

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<v Speaker 1>cake's gonna come and it's gonna go. You're eventually gonna

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<v Speaker 1>around and say, well, it's because of this or because

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<v Speaker 1>of that, sociologically whatever, But ultimately the key is not

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<v Speaker 1>the bad. You will come to know God through tribulation

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<v Speaker 1>and trials, not through reward. Yeah, that's just the way

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<v Speaker 1>of beauty in life. If you look at a fish swimming,

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the productive part in itself. And so you

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<v Speaker 1>in your life and go, Okay, it's done, it's over.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got nothing more to give. Or you can use them,

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<v Speaker 1>like the fish and the bird, to propel you into

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<v Speaker 1>a state of understanding about those things and on. Once

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<v Speaker 1>you get to a place where you understand them, you

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<v Speaker 1>find the joy. That's not happiness, it's true joy, which

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<v Speaker 1>happens in good times, bad times, all of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's not that someone has more and that

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<v Speaker 1>some Christians are going to have double the flavor if anything,

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<v Speaker 1>having those things, being rich and having those those anchors

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<v Speaker 1>on earth can be it can be an albatross around

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<v Speaker 1>the neck of the Christian and make it very difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to connect with God. So it's a matter of balance,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you have money or don't, whether you have things

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<v Speaker 1>or don't, James, it's about where your heart is. That's

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you so much. That helps me a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>You're welcome, James. I'm so glad you call. You'd be

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<v Speaker 1>safe on the streets there, and you call any time.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it when when new believers are are getting

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<v Speaker 1>that sincerity. It's it's you know how children, Oh Heaven

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<v Speaker 1>bless them when they point at somebody who's heavy and says,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, say you're fat, or this tastes yucky or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is. They they kind of unfiltered attitude. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're a babe in Christ, you're a new Christian,

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<v Speaker 1>oftentimes the same thing, and it's great. It comes from

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<v Speaker 1>a pure place of wanting to ask questions and wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to find out the answer to something that just doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>seem to quite make sense to you. And that honesty

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<v Speaker 1>is beneficial. So when James calls up with something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>I always always like it. Now, to further expand on that,

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<v Speaker 1>keep in mind that the things that the world thinks

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<v Speaker 1>are a reward aren't always a reward. The world comes

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<v Speaker 1>comes at things kind of like the hedonistic type attitude,

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<v Speaker 1>and the hedonists really came from a place, a philosophical

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<v Speaker 1>So the hedonists would say, well, simple explanation, that which

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not true. I know that there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people that thrust their fists into the heavens and say, God,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you putting me through this pain? But think

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<v Speaker 1>pleasure is good, then you weigh them based on what

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<v Speaker 1>in character, not building your wealth, because in scripture it

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<v Speaker 1>or rusts. It doesn't mean anything. You can't take it

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<v Speaker 1>with you, it doesn't have any true value. What hopefully,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're successful here on earth, you use that to

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<v Speaker 1>propel yourself to do more things, to interact with more people,

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<v Speaker 1>to be more productive. I'm dealing with your purpose, your

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<v Speaker 1>gifts and abilities. What is the meaning of life? Simply this,

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<v Speaker 1>to utilize your gifts and abilities along lines of excellence,

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<v Speaker 1>to the edification of others and to the edification of yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>to the glory of God. Any money you get, or

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<v Speaker 1>any any special attention or favor you have in life,

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<v Speaker 1>you're to use it in that way to edify others

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<v Speaker 1>and to propel yourself along with others. It's not about

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<v Speaker 1>getting the biggest house or any of those things. Not

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<v Speaker 1>that any of that's wrong. It's okay to have things.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems that the pendulum in life tends to go

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<v Speaker 1>hard left or hard right with people. Nobody finds that

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<v Speaker 1>balance in the center. It's like, oh so it's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I hear people complaining about, you know, pastors

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<v Speaker 1>that have homes, these large homes or and there is

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<v Speaker 1>a limit. I think if you're a pastor, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>place where you should understand that the appearance it gives

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<v Speaker 1>you're producing. However, on the flip side, that you as

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<v Speaker 1>an outsider looking at a pastor, should understand that many

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<v Speaker 1>pastors have other jobs and other interests and other things

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<v Speaker 1>that are in their life that bring the money. Whether

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<v Speaker 1>they write, whether they're musicians, Some of them hold down

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<v Speaker 1>other jobs. Often they're married to somebody who has money

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<v Speaker 1>or has other jobs as well. So these things should

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<v Speaker 1>be taken into account so it doesn't look like somebody's

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<v Speaker 1>fleecing the flock when certainly they are not. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>about just the accumulation of these things. It's about what

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<v Speaker 1>these things bring to your life in other's life, and

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<v Speaker 1>how you deal with them when you do have them,

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<v Speaker 1>and how you deal with them when you don't not

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<v Speaker 1>having things. My producer Neil always is thankful that he

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money, and he's thankful because the creativity

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<v Speaker 1>that it forced upon him. He had to learn to

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<v Speaker 1>do things differently and to be more creative because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the toys were broken or it didn't have toys or

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<v Speaker 1>all creative in their own right. How does that happen? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>be broke? You know, when you don't have money, it

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<v Speaker 1>in other areas and then that can be helpful. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's a positive thing that comes out of something that

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<v Speaker 1>might be perceived as negative. It's very easy to just

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<v Speaker 1>broad brush and say, Okay, well, everything that feels good

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<v Speaker 1>just not the way life works. There's a lot of pain.

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<v Speaker 1>going through an operation, and all the pain and and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, recovery and all of these things. However, that

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<v Speaker 1>is for a greater good. Studying, for finals, going through school,

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<v Speaker 1>the struggles of the the initial parts of relationship, all

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<v Speaker 1>of these things. You know, people say that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>marriage is hard all the time. I hear that marriage

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<v Speaker 1>is not hard. Marriage is easy. Life is always easier

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<v Speaker 1>with a partner. What's difficult is being selfless. That's what's difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>Is you finding the ability to throw away all that

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<v Speaker 1>selfish attitude and live for someone else and dedicate your

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<v Speaker 1>what's difficult. Marriage is very easy. Two heads are always

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<v Speaker 1>better than one, four hands are better than one. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's there's so much to it that makes life easier.

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<v Speaker 1>What makes it more difficult is being selfless. And in

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<v Speaker 1>life it's the same thing. There's going to be times

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<v Speaker 1>where you give up the pleasures or the so called pleasures,

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<v Speaker 1>and really it's for a greater good. It's for a

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<v Speaker 1>greater benefit. Bill, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, sir, hi Hi, I had a little question for

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<v Speaker 3>you in regards to faith, okay, which may not be

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<v Speaker 3>approprictly timed for our day and age, but faith comes

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<v Speaker 3>in many different faces. Power of walking on water is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it something that humans can aspire to through faith,

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<v Speaker 3>through teachings well, such as this.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there are things that took place when I was

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<v Speaker 1>here on Earth two thousand years ago that had a

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<v Speaker 1>purpose to help understand who I was and why I

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<v Speaker 1>was here, and they had a specific purpose. Now, as

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<v Speaker 1>far as great signs and wonders, there are those that

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<v Speaker 1>believe that they those same things can take place now,

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<v Speaker 1>and that there are statements in scripture that say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I did great things, but you will do great things also,

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<v Speaker 1>And people assume, okay, well, that means here there's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be great signs of wonders still, And there's a theological

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<v Speaker 1>debate about that. You can argue that in Matthew Matthew

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<v Speaker 1>chapter fourteen, where you read about the walking on water

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<v Speaker 1>six and John six as well, that you when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at that, you're dealing with not only me walking

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<v Speaker 1>on water, but encouraging others to do it at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time as well. And their faith was not in

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<v Speaker 1>the place where they could if you remember, and they

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<v Speaker 1>fell through the water. So that implies that that there

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<v Speaker 1>is a capability there that wasn't ever shown or it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't ever documented. The fear is that you get to

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<v Speaker 1>these places where you get shamans, or you get groups

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<v Speaker 1>as if they're doing something, and then it shows that

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<v Speaker 1>automatically they have great faith. There's trickery out there, and there,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said, theologically, there are those that argue that

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<v Speaker 1>that isn't for now, That sign and wonders of that

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<v Speaker 1>type were there for a specific reason at a specific

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<v Speaker 1>time to point down a specific path, and that path

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<v Speaker 1>is already seen through the special design of scripture and

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<v Speaker 1>the words written down, and that it doesn't need to

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<v Speaker 1>be recreated. So it has there's theological twists to it

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<v Speaker 1>as well. But effectively, if you look just through scripture

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<v Speaker 1>hear people quote all the time about you know, love

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<v Speaker 1>talks about the different gifts and abilities as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>what part those gifts and abilities play in life. And

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<v Speaker 1>like tongues or prophecy deal today and are useful for today.

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<v Speaker 1>There if you think of life Bill as a child,

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<v Speaker 1>and that the child's growing older throughout the centuries. But

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<v Speaker 1>you can see that God dealt with the world this

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<v Speaker 1>child differently at different stages of the child's life. So

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<v Speaker 1>there are times where those things are important and important

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<v Speaker 1>where they're no longer necessary or not important, and they

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<v Speaker 1>So there are some that say, well, these things don't

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<v Speaker 1>exist in that sense. In that way, the power still

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<v Speaker 1>exists there and the use may be specific. It wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be somebody doing it, you know, as a carnivalact walking

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<v Speaker 1>across the water. It would be for great purpose, just

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<v Speaker 1>as it was when I was showing the disciple that

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<v Speaker 1>it had a purpose. It wasn't like, hey, walk o,

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<v Speaker 1>walka WALKA look what I can do. Check this out.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm not falling through the water. There was

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<v Speaker 1>purpose there and they were to have to be purpose

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<v Speaker 1>now KFI AM six forty on demand
