WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.960 --> 00:00:09.720 Bill Cunningham, the Great America, and welcome the Thursday afternoon 2 00:00:09.759 --> 00:00:11.400 in the Tri State. I would note that if it's 3 00:00:11.400 --> 00:00:15.279 seventeen degrees, public schools shut down. We can't operate. The 4 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:18.600 metro bus system is fine, the buildings are fine. But 5 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:21.640 if it's seventeen degrees, CPS says we're done. We're not 6 00:00:21.679 --> 00:00:25.199 going to educate today, which by the way, is totally ridiculous. 7 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:29.559 Continuing as we always do. Kentucky's my home state. Rob 8 00:00:29.600 --> 00:00:32.399 Sanders is the prosecutor of Kenton County. We spent the 9 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:35.320 last day or two talking about homelessness under bridges and 10 00:00:35.399 --> 00:00:38.439 the fact that it's likely the homeless encampments have caused 11 00:00:38.439 --> 00:00:41.159 the difficulties in I four seventy one. The official report 12 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:43.719 not out yet, coming out either today or tomorrow. We're 13 00:00:43.759 --> 00:00:47.039 told maybe on Monday, but until then, Rob Sanders, welcome 14 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:49.799 again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Rob, is there 15 00:00:49.799 --> 00:00:52.759 a policy in Covington or Kenton County to your knowledge, 16 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:56.439 in which, in writing you tell Covington cops in Kenton 17 00:00:56.479 --> 00:00:59.600 County and all the other law enforcement agencies in Kenton 18 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:02.280 County there are certain laws we're not going to enforce. 19 00:01:02.799 --> 00:01:06.000 One of them being criminal trespass. The City of Cincinnati 20 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:08.239 has told it's cops, which is a great unit of 21 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:12.359 CPD Kenkobra, etc. A great unit, saying to them, you 22 00:01:12.439 --> 00:01:16.840 shall not enforce criminal trespass statutes unless in other crimes 23 00:01:16.879 --> 00:01:20.040 being committed. In other words, there's some criminal laws we violate, 24 00:01:20.120 --> 00:01:22.959 we will prosecute some we will not. Is there any 25 00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:25.719 indication in Covington or Kenton County that Rob Sanders says 26 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:29.719 ordering Covington police do not arrest somebody for certain offenses. 27 00:01:31.319 --> 00:01:33.640 Absolutely not, Willie. Thanks for having me back on. 28 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:37.439 I heard your interview yesterday day before with the new 29 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:38.400 FOP president. 30 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:41.000 At least he's new to me. I haven't met him yet. 31 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:44.680 Didn't realize that Lieutenant Dan wouldn't ran anymore. But nevertheless, 32 00:01:44.760 --> 00:01:48.120 the instructions they've been given are not instructions that we 33 00:01:48.200 --> 00:01:50.599 give police on the South side of the River. I 34 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:52.480 think that's one of the reasons that we maintain a 35 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:55.680 very high standard and quality of life for our residents. 36 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:57.719 We have a great community to live, work and raise 37 00:01:57.719 --> 00:02:00.400 a family, and that's why people enjoyed open to the 38 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:01.200 South side of the River. 39 00:02:01.239 --> 00:02:01.560 Willie. 40 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:04.239 That's why we still have that big condo down on 41 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:06.799 the Covington Riverfront with your name on every You're in 42 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:08.840 the people's judge just waiting for you to move in. 43 00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:12.120 Well, I'll tell you what happens when someone is homeless 44 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:16.080 in Covington. Do you allow them to sleep on business fronts? 45 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:19.199 Do allow them? And overpasses to allow them? In parks? 46 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:23.680 Andbury Park and Mount Washington has a terrible problem. How 47 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:27.800 does Covington handle the criminal act of invading a park 48 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:33.039 and occupying it using drugs, fornicating, urinating, and all the rest. 49 00:02:33.560 --> 00:02:35.680 Why is that the what happens in Covington? 50 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:41.759 If that occurs, generally speaking, the folks that decide to 51 00:02:41.960 --> 00:02:44.840 take up camp in a public space, in a park 52 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:48.319 or in a business entrance or something like that, are 53 00:02:48.960 --> 00:02:52.759 are moved along by the police. They generally aren't arrested 54 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:56.080 unless they're committing some other kind of offense, but they 55 00:02:56.120 --> 00:02:58.280 are encouraged to move on down the road or else. 56 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:00.719 There's going to be a problem because we can't have this. 57 00:03:01.159 --> 00:03:04.000 We can't have homeless shutting down our businesses. We can't 58 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:08.759 have homeless folks discouraging people from visiting all the fine 59 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:13.080 businesses and eating establishments and night spots in the Covington 60 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:18.719 business district. Recently, the Covington legislature passed what's commonly been 61 00:03:18.719 --> 00:03:21.319 known as House Bill five. And although it's been probably 62 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:24.879 the greatest criminal justice for form in terms of improving 63 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:29.280 public safety in my lifetime, in terms of treating violent 64 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:34.439 offenders as violent offenders, and totally redoing Kentucky's parole structures 65 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:37.080 so that violent offenders actually have to stay in prison 66 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:39.560 for the majority of their sentence, all kinds of great 67 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:41.439 things came out of House Bill five. What got all 68 00:03:41.439 --> 00:03:44.360 the attention was the portion of House Bill five that 69 00:03:44.439 --> 00:03:49.719 allowed police to make an arrest for camping on public property, 70 00:03:49.759 --> 00:03:52.240 which is not something that we've had a giant problem with. 71 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:54.280 I don't want to say we've had no problems with it, 72 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:57.520 but it's not been nearly the problem in Northern Kentucky 73 00:03:57.560 --> 00:04:00.000 as it has been in places like Louisville and Lexington, 74 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:03.800 and where police were being given messages much like the 75 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:06.719 ones that the Cincinnati police apparently been given, and that's 76 00:04:06.719 --> 00:04:10.479 to not arrest people for certain offenses, to not enforce 77 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:13.759 certain laws. In northern Kentucky, to my knowledge, we've been 78 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:17.160 doing it all along. And I realized that Covington's born 79 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:20.360 the brunt of a lot of that homelessness. There's been 80 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:23.160 a long ongoing debate in the City of Covington about 81 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:27.639 burdening the city with more than its fair share of 82 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:30.439 the social service organizations and things like that that tend 83 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:33.399 to congregate in Covington, because that's understandably where most of 84 00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:37.399 the homelessness is. But Covington is long encouraged other Northern 85 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:40.759 Kentucky cities to do their part in taking on social 86 00:04:40.839 --> 00:04:43.519 services so that we can move these folks into shelters, 87 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:45.680 that we can find them housing, that we can get 88 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:48.399 them off the streets, out of the parks, and at 89 00:04:48.399 --> 00:04:51.120 the very least out of the public eye, so that 90 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:53.600 if there has to be a homeless encamp and the 91 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:56.600 last place we want it is on main Street or 92 00:04:56.720 --> 00:04:58.879 right in the middle of our entertainment district or right 93 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:02.480 along the interstate. It's visible to everybody that comes and 94 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:05.600 goes from our fine towns. So we've been doing that 95 00:05:05.639 --> 00:05:07.879 for a long time. It's always worked. We've never really 96 00:05:07.879 --> 00:05:10.800 had a big problem with it. It's never been real controversial, 97 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:13.519 and I don't understand why other cities can't learn from 98 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:14.720 that and do the same thing. 99 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:17.040 Well, we need mental hospitals, which we don't have those 100 00:05:17.439 --> 00:05:20.519 facilities anymore. We used to have large mental hospitals. We 101 00:05:20.680 --> 00:05:23.439 really don't have them anymore. And as a consequence, you 102 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:27.399 have group homes voluntarily taking drugs or not taking drugs. 103 00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:31.000 But this particular encampment, the city was told a year 104 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:35.120 ago by ODOT check the overpasses to make sure there's 105 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:38.759 not homeless encampments there, because across the country there's many 106 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:41.959 fires and other circumstances, and that wasn't done. The finger 107 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:46.079 pointing every which way is unbelievable. But as a consequence, 108 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:49.399 you have four to five hundred million dollars in repair 109 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:52.720 costs born by the taxpayer. You have millions and millions 110 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:54.800 of man ours, a wasted time, and it's all because 111 00:05:54.800 --> 00:05:58.120 this city's not paying attention to what's happening in their overpasses. 112 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:01.800 It's a failure of compassion. Is not compassionate to tell 113 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:06.560 someone mentally ill it's okay to live outside, take drugs, panhandle, 114 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:09.800 go back under the bridge, set fires underneath four seventy one, 115 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:13.800 no consequences. Ken Kober basically said yesterday it was a 116 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:16.279 homeless encampment, and we're told more or less to leave 117 00:06:16.319 --> 00:06:18.319 them alone, and so we're not going to rouse them 118 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:21.600 away from bridge overpasses when the city doesn't want us 119 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:25.800 to prosecute. In fact, if we disregard a directive from 120 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:28.759 the city manager's share along, if we disregard it, we 121 00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:31.319 might face discipline in a sense. So hell, we're not 122 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:33.439 going to put ourselves out there. And the other thing 123 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:37.079 of Rob Sanders that cops do not want to rouse 124 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:41.040 a whole bunch of homeless individuals because the homeless homeless 125 00:06:41.079 --> 00:06:43.600 shelters they don't want to go into because there's rules 126 00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:45.720 and regulations. You can't do what you want to do 127 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:48.879 and a homeless shelter, but damn it, society has rules 128 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:49.519 you have to follow. 129 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:49.800 Now. 130 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:53.720 Secondly, there was an article in the inquire about possible 131 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:59.160 death threats against Rob Sanders having your throat slit. What 132 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:00.680 can you tell us about with that? I know it's 133 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:02.519 a sense of theive issue. What can tell us about that? 134 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:04.480 If anything, Willie? 135 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:05.680 I don't want to go into a whole lot of 136 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:08.399 details except that this is an unfortunate reality that a 137 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:11.240 lot of public officials face in many different realms, but 138 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:15.120 especially in the criminal justice system. Certainly not the first 139 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:19.079 death threat that I've received. I'm not special by any 140 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:21.160 means when it comes to that. I know other prosecutors 141 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:25.160 had received death threats as well. Assistant prosecutors to get 142 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:27.920 death threats. Cops get their lives threatened all the time, 143 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:32.000 Judges get death threats. But in this case, when you 144 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:36.560 have a very specific death threat about a location that 145 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:40.639 I do in fact frequent in terms of that attack 146 00:07:40.759 --> 00:07:43.439 being planned at the gym that I go to, and 147 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:45.439 he had the right gym, and he was a member 148 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:48.000 of that gym, did have access to that gym, that 149 00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:50.639 obviously raises red flags. And when the police start looking 150 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:55.399 into it and people that know this suspect this individual 151 00:07:55.800 --> 00:07:58.279 start indicating the police that he's not acting right, that 152 00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:01.439 he hasn't been home in days, and that he's having 153 00:08:01.519 --> 00:08:02.720 some sort of mental break. 154 00:08:02.839 --> 00:08:05.680 Obviously, that is when things go to a whole other 155 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:08.519 level that it's not just my life. 156 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:10.600 That is at stake, It is the lives of anybody 157 00:08:10.680 --> 00:08:13.040 that's around me, whether it be my family, whether it 158 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:15.480 be my co workers, whether it be other court workers 159 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:17.519 or other people around the courthouse, or even other people 160 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:19.920 in the gym. Will it's just nobody wants to be 161 00:08:19.959 --> 00:08:22.839 around any kind of violence like like that. Nobody wants 162 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:25.319 the violence like that. And frankly, if we tolerate that 163 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:28.000 kind of violence and those kinds of threats, nobody's going 164 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:29.720 to be willing to take the job a prosecutor, and 165 00:08:29.720 --> 00:08:31.879 nobody's going to be willing to take the job of judge. 166 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:34.679 We're already having trouble finding people that are willing to 167 00:08:34.720 --> 00:08:38.159 take the job a police officer, and understandably, so, you know, 168 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:39.600 we take it very seriously. 169 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:41.000 In Kenton County. Anytime somebody tells the. 170 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:42.919 Police officer that when I get out of here, I'm 171 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:44.759 gonna find you, or I'm gonna find your family and 172 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:46.600 I'm gonna hurt you, or I'm gonna hurt them, or 173 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:48.399 any number of different threats they can make. 174 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:50.879 You know, for a long time, police. 175 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:53.080 Officers endure things like that and people just think it's 176 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:54.919 part of the job. But not in Kenton County to 177 00:08:55.039 --> 00:08:58.320 take it very seriously because the police officers don't have 178 00:08:58.840 --> 00:09:01.519 they don't deserve to have'll be looking over their shoulder 179 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:04.639 all the time. So anytime somebody makes threats like that 180 00:09:04.639 --> 00:09:07.320 against a police officer, it might be something they're saying 181 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:10.600 out of anger, out of drunkenness out of drug intoxication 182 00:09:10.639 --> 00:09:13.279 while they're being arrested, and they're pissed off. But we 183 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:17.000 take that very seriously because it doesn't excuse that behavior. 184 00:09:17.399 --> 00:09:20.200 And I don't expect the police to take it any 185 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:22.039 more or less serious when it happens to me than 186 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:25.080 I do when it happens to them. And I anticipate 187 00:09:25.159 --> 00:09:27.200 in this case, like any case that we have against 188 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:31.159 the life of a police officer, it'll be taken very seriously. Ultimately, 189 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:33.960 it'll probably have to call in a special prosecutor to 190 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:36.399 handle the case because I'm gonna end up being a 191 00:09:36.440 --> 00:09:39.200 witness in the case, I'm sure. But once we get 192 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:41.879 this case bound over the grand jury, we'll contact the 193 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:44.799 Journey General's office and let the justice system run its course. 194 00:09:44.960 --> 00:09:47.320 I know one thing. If you threaten to judge, have 195 00:09:47.480 --> 00:09:49.879 you threatened to kill a cop or a prosecutor, the 196 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:53.399 system will arise and make sure that person number one 197 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:55.519 is full due process rights. Okay, we got to make 198 00:09:55.559 --> 00:09:57.120 sure you have the rights of this and the rights 199 00:09:57.120 --> 00:09:59.039 of that. You got the fourth, you got, the fifth, 200 00:09:59.080 --> 00:10:00.960 you got, the seventh, got the eighth, got the ninth, 201 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:03.799 got the tenth, got the fourteenth, get all the amendments. 202 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:06.279 A guy or the woman gets all the benefits of 203 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:10.720 the criminal justice system, but once you're convicted, now you're 204 00:10:10.759 --> 00:10:12.559 dealing with different circumstance. 205 00:10:12.879 --> 00:10:15.720 Yeah, it's unfortunate, will it that Kentucky law right now 206 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:19.480 treats of retaliation against participants in the legal processes. What's 207 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:23.000 the technical term of that that threat that crime is called? 208 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:26.240 It treat it as a non violent offense. And I 209 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:30.039 can tell you that it's certainly violent to me when 210 00:10:30.039 --> 00:10:32.840 it's my life that's that's at stake, when it's my 211 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:36.120 throat that's being threatened to be slashed. I'm sure it's 212 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:38.360 violent to all the judges and all the police officers 213 00:10:38.360 --> 00:10:40.240 that have been threatened in other cases, and the judge 214 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:43.120 that was threatened in this case. But you know, that's 215 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:45.679 something that Kentucky law needs to revisit. And I don't know, 216 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:48.879 maybe maybe it'll take legislators having their life set in 217 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:51.080 which I know probably happens from time to time or 218 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:54.240 on occasion, but maybe that's something that we can convince 219 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:57.799 them to revisit before it's a legislator's life that is threatened, 220 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:00.720 so that we can treat it as a violent offense. 221 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:02.360 As it should be, is it should have been treated 222 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:02.879 all along. 223 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:05.440 Now lastly, and we spoke off there about this about 224 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:09.960 Brian Thompson, the CEO who was a murdered, an assassination, 225 00:11:10.120 --> 00:11:16.720 really a political killing. Deny, defend and depose those rewards 226 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:20.480 put on the shellcasings on the nine millimeter semi auto 227 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:25.080 that ejected from his pistol. He wanted to send a message. 228 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:29.559 This is in Manhattan, Brian Thompson's CEO of United Healthcare. Deny, 229 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:34.360 defend and depose. There's not much shall we say, room 230 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:37.759 on a shellcasing you put that. Just as an investigator, 231 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:38.559 what do you think about that? 232 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:42.600 Well, certainly somebody's trying to send a message there, William right. 233 00:11:42.639 --> 00:11:44.600 I don't know enough about United health Care in their 234 00:11:44.679 --> 00:11:47.840 situation to know if that's a very specific person that 235 00:11:47.919 --> 00:11:50.639 may have wronged in some way, or at least that 236 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:52.600 person felt as though they had been wronged by that 237 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:55.480 company that was apt to get revenged on the CEO 238 00:11:55.600 --> 00:11:59.559 of the company, or if perhaps this was strictly a 239 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:03.000 business deal gone bad of some sort, somebody putting a 240 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:05.000 hit out on a CEO of a company and just 241 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:08.080 putting those words on a shellcasing in order to throw 242 00:12:08.120 --> 00:12:10.919 investigators off and make them think it was a disgruntled 243 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:14.360 customer of some sorts or something along those lines. But 244 00:12:14.759 --> 00:12:16.799 as you and I talked off their it's very unusual 245 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:19.960 to have and what appears to be at least a 246 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:24.159 professional killing or a very intentional hit that somebody put 247 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:27.759 on the CEO. It's unusual for a hit man to 248 00:12:27.879 --> 00:12:32.399 leave evidence behind, and oftentimes somebody committing a heinous crime 249 00:12:32.519 --> 00:12:35.120 like this would use a revolver because it doesn't eject 250 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:37.720 the shells like a semi automatic weapon would do. But 251 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:40.639 in this case, when they're carving messages into the shell casings, 252 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:44.799 not only are they leaving those pieces of evidence behind, 253 00:12:44.840 --> 00:12:47.200 but they're doing it very intentionally to send a message, 254 00:12:47.200 --> 00:12:49.679 to convey a message of some sort to the rest 255 00:12:49.679 --> 00:12:51.960 of the world about the purpose behind this killing. And 256 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:54.559 certainly it's too fresh and too new for us to 257 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:58.159 know exactly what that message means. But that's something I'm 258 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:00.879 sure investigators are working hard on to trying to try 259 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:01.320 and solve. 260 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:03.720 We'll see what happens at Rob Sanders, I know you're 261 00:13:04.200 --> 00:13:08.360 in Kentucky teaching other prosecutors how to prosecute you just 262 00:13:08.399 --> 00:13:11.080 got elected. Tony Benner told me you had a tough race, 263 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:15.120 barely one in November. You snuck in. What can you 264 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:17.720 tell me about how the citizens of Kenton County dealt 265 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:19.960 with you because there was a concern maybe you couldn't 266 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:20.279 make it. 267 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:23.200 What happened, well, Willie, I was very fortunate I was 268 00:13:23.240 --> 00:13:25.440 up for re elections. Just I'm in the process of 269 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:27.679 finishing up my third term, my eighteenth years. 270 00:13:27.679 --> 00:13:29.679 He elected to come on with attorney here in Kenton County. 271 00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:32.200 But I've just been fortunate enough, left enough by the 272 00:13:32.279 --> 00:13:34.720 voters in Kenton County to be erected elected to my 273 00:13:34.879 --> 00:13:39.840 fourth six year term. Was the lucky beneficiary of running 274 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:42.600 a post. But nevertheless name had to appear on the docket, 275 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:46.120 on the docket, on the ballot, and I'm proud to 276 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:48.679 say that I got more votes than any other person 277 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:53.080 running for any office, including President Donald Trump. He didn't 278 00:13:53.080 --> 00:13:55.080 even get as many votes as Rob Sanders did. So 279 00:13:55.159 --> 00:13:57.519 this was a great outcome from me. Very proud of 280 00:13:57.559 --> 00:14:00.759 the work that I do, that my staff does. Fortunate 281 00:14:00.840 --> 00:14:03.360 and blessed to be the kamalth attorney in Kenton County. 282 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:06.480 So now all fifty seven comalth attorneys We're on the 283 00:14:06.480 --> 00:14:09.759 ballot in Kentucky just this past November and we had 284 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:13.360 eighteen newly elected comalth attorneys. So I'm in Lexington, Kentucky 285 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:17.279 today training some of my new fellow comonwalth attorneys, including 286 00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:19.799 my new neighbor next door Mike Zimmerman, who'll be taking 287 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:22.759 over the kamal with attorney's office in Campbell County and 288 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:25.600 his office in Newport. He's down here with me, and 289 00:14:25.720 --> 00:14:28.200 of course Lewis Kelly from Boone County. He's been around 290 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:31.360 for a term. He just got reelected his second term. 291 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:35.320 Lewis is down here teaching the newcomalalth attorneys alongside me. 292 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:38.159 So it's a nice little day trip for us. 293 00:14:38.080 --> 00:14:40.360 To get out of the office and meet our newest 294 00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:43.480 elected comalth attorneys, sell any prosecutors, and to come all 295 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:46.399 out of Kentucky. And we're giving them a few pointers 296 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:49.320 on how to run things, hopefully not screw anything up, you. 297 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:51.279 Know, learn from our mistakes along the way, that sort 298 00:14:51.279 --> 00:14:51.559 of thing. 299 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:55.399 But I'm blessed and fortunate that I'll be around, be 300 00:14:55.440 --> 00:14:57.759 doing more interviews with you, Willie for the next couple years, 301 00:14:57.759 --> 00:14:58.919 and I'm looking forward to well, how. 302 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:02.480 About you running for Attorney General US Senate. You're undefeated, 303 00:15:02.600 --> 00:15:05.320 untied on scored on. Why don't you run for something else? 304 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:06.000 Or are you happy? 305 00:15:06.039 --> 00:15:06.200 You know? 306 00:15:06.279 --> 00:15:08.600 People say to me, why don't you do this? 307 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:08.960 Do that? 308 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:11.279 And I said, look, I have what I seek. I 309 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:13.639 want happiness, fulfillment. I like to do what I'm doing. 310 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:15.919 Somebody pays me a few bucks to do it. I'm 311 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:18.120 motivated to do the job. Why do I want something 312 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:20.919 when I already have happiness and peace and joy. I 313 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:22.759 know Kamala Harris gave me a lot of joy in 314 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:25.919 this election. But nonetheless, have you thought about running for 315 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:27.840 something bigger and better? Or is this the best it 316 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:30.240 can be? And if you're happy with what you're doing, 317 00:15:30.679 --> 00:15:32.799 if you have what you seek, don't move. 318 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:34.000 Well, Willie. 319 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:35.799 I love what I do and I could die to 320 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:37.840 come on with attorney in Kent and Kenny and didn't 321 00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:39.840 have spent my entire career there, and I. 322 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:42.200 Will die happy. I love my job, I love the 323 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:43.120 people I work with. 324 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:45.559 I love serving the citizens Kent and County, working with 325 00:15:45.600 --> 00:15:48.080 the awesome police departments that we have in Kent County 326 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:49.240 and all in northern Kentucky. 327 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:52.039 So I'm happy where I am. 328 00:15:52.679 --> 00:15:55.240 But most importantly, I'm not about to turn my office 329 00:15:55.279 --> 00:15:58.799 over because some Democrat, you know, soft on crime, hug 330 00:15:58.840 --> 00:16:02.200 at the pointe that Andy Basheer would have taken. 331 00:16:02.039 --> 00:16:04.200 My place if I were to step down and move 332 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:05.279 on to some other office. 333 00:16:05.279 --> 00:16:08.240 So until we have a Republican governor, I won't even 334 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:10.799 think about any other offices or any other jobs. Not 335 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:13.000 saying that I'm thinking about any other jobs as it is, 336 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:16.320 but I promise you I'm at least here until we 337 00:16:16.399 --> 00:16:19.320 get a new governor. So the next governor's race not 338 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:22.600 till twenty twenty seven, that's Andy basher you know, runs 339 00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:24.240 for mitchim McConnell's seat or something. 340 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:24.840 Along those lines. 341 00:16:24.879 --> 00:16:26.960 Maybe then we end up with a new governor, one 342 00:16:27.039 --> 00:16:31.000 that would appoint a replacement from within my own office. 343 00:16:31.039 --> 00:16:34.200 I would have a number of different assistant prosecutors that 344 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:37.039 worked for me that I would entrust with running my office. 345 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:39.559 But I'm not going to turn it over to somebody 346 00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:41.480 who I have to wonder what they're going to do 347 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:43.559 and what kind of policies they're going to install, and 348 00:16:43.639 --> 00:16:48.000 how much of a threat that would be the safety ally, 349 00:16:48.519 --> 00:16:52.039 So up here for at least the next several years 350 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:55.559 and God willing a lot longer after that. Lord knows, 351 00:16:55.559 --> 00:16:57.240 if I was doing another job, I might not have 352 00:16:57.320 --> 00:16:59.159 time to do your show, and I'd know that. 353 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:03.000 The thing is, I know you're an honorary Kentucky colonel. 354 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:06.039 I'm a I'm a Kentucky colonel. I could see Colonel 355 00:17:06.119 --> 00:17:11.039 Sanders for Kentucky. I see those signs, Colonel Sanders. Who 356 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:14.000 in the hell would vote against Colonel Sanders for Kentucky. 357 00:17:14.119 --> 00:17:17.440 Just an idea, It's something to think about. Billboards all 358 00:17:17.480 --> 00:17:21.960 over Colonel Sanders for Kentucky. A chicken wing in every pot? 359 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:25.000 We got? What do you think I'm gonna have to 360 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:28.240 jump on that website. 361 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:30.000 Colonel Sanders, chicken wing in every pot? 362 00:17:30.279 --> 00:17:32.759 I mean it would, colonels in Kentucky. 363 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:35.440 You wouldn't but dominate. You get all the votes against 364 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:37.759 an opponent, you get one hundred percent of the vote. 365 00:17:38.440 --> 00:17:40.319 I'm gonna have to change my campaign signed to red 366 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:42.440 and white stripes though, so you know that branding. 367 00:17:43.160 --> 00:17:44.920 But we'll work on that, Willie, We'll work on that. 368 00:17:44.920 --> 00:17:48.039 That's a brilliant IDEA chicken wing in every pot? All right, 369 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:50.680 Colonel Sanders, you're the best thing. Can I call you? 370 00:17:50.799 --> 00:17:54.160 Colonel you're an honorary colonel. Everybody in Kentucky's an honorary colonel. 371 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:54.440 Right. 372 00:17:54.559 --> 00:17:59.240 I got a in a Kentucky colonel, Willie. 373 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:02.119 It got that for me of that designation when I 374 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:02.960 was just a little. 375 00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:06.720 Kid, Colonel Sanders, for Kentucky. It believe me, you would 376 00:18:06.759 --> 00:18:09.759 not lose, all right, Rob, Colonel, thank you very much 377 00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:12.079 for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Gets your eye on, 378 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:14.720 get your head on a swivel, Look left, look right, Okay, 379 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:15.799 just keep looking around. 380 00:18:16.519 --> 00:18:17.640 We're working on that, Willie. 381 00:18:17.640 --> 00:18:20.599 I appreciate the thought though, and the all the expressions 382 00:18:20.680 --> 00:18:23.480 support that I've received from everybody all around Northern Kentucky 383 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:25.519 and Greater Cincinnati. It's really been nice to have folks 384 00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:28.720 reach out, and it's good to know that people care. 385 00:18:28.799 --> 00:18:30.880 But certainly we're gonna be real careful going forward. 386 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:33.880 Please please, Colonel Sanders, thanks for having me. 387 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:34.839 Will you have a great day. 388 00:18:34.920 --> 00:18:37.839 Thank you, Colonel, thank you. Let's continue with more chicken 389 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:41.640 wing in every pot on news Radio seven hundred WULW. 390 00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:45.000 No. 391 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:47.640 Billy Cunningham, the Great American coming up at one o 392 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:52.759 seven today, will be alone. Toldo Sanza, the congressional opponent 393 00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:55.240 of Greg Lansman did a good job running. But let's 394 00:18:55.240 --> 00:18:58.400 face in Hamlin County, about two thirds of that district 395 00:18:58.440 --> 00:19:03.440 is Hamilton County, and Republicans can't win in Hamley County anymore. 396 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:05.319 In my life, Tom, I never thought I would ever 397 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:08.839 say that, but Republicans cannot win in Hamley County. Only 398 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:11.839 one winning is the county engineer, a guy named Beck, who, 399 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:13.400 by the way, is doing a great job, but he 400 00:19:13.480 --> 00:19:16.480 runs on a post because no other engineer wants the job. 401 00:19:16.920 --> 00:19:18.759