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Speaker 1: Back in nineteen eighty four, my family lived on a

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farm on the edge of town in the heart of Kentucky.

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The house sat on a hilltop with a big black

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barn behind it and a long, narrow valley beyond that.

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The house set well above the roadway and even higher

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above the valley. The valley sat even lower and was

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surrounded by woods. I was sixteen and feeling pretty low.

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My girlfriend had just called me on the phone and

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broken up with me after two months. She didn't even

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give me a reason. It was February, but the weather

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was beginning to show signs of spring after a long winter.

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The temperature was somewhat in the mid forties, and there

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were only a few patches of snow here and there.

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I needed to get away and think, so I headed

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for my favorite spot for me, that the woods. I

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spent a great deal of time there, and sometimes with friends,

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but usually alone. My father had left my mother when

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I was young, so the male role models in my

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life were my two uncles. They taught me to hunt

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and fish, and to appreciate the beauty and wonder of

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nature in those woods. They were a couple of great guys.

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Looking back, I really missed those times that we spent together.

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I walked down to the bottom of the valley, like

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I generally did. I was deep in thought about why

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my girl would break up with me, and I wasn't

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paying attention when I heard a thumping sound. It was

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something solid hitting the grass covered ground. I looked around

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and saw a rock about twenty feet from me, rolling uphill.

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I figured it was either my sister or my brother

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playing a trick on me, so I turned to look

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back the way I came, expecting to see one of them,

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and I scanned around looking, but they weren't there. As

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I turned to my left, still looking for my siblings,

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I saw a twenty foot patch of snow with four

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human shaped footprints in it. It was a little unnerving

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to see the footprints because first, whoever made these prints

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wasn't wearing shoes. It wasn't freezing out, but it was

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still cold. Walking in the snow would have made it

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feel even colder. Second, these prints were huge. I walked

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over and compared them to my boot. They were nearly

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twice as long as my foot and much wider, and

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the stride was a lot longer than I could have made.

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I was still examining the footprints when I heard another

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rock hit the ground, and I turned in the direction

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of the sound, and I saw the rock twenty feet

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away rolling downhill. This time it was bigger than the first,

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roughly the size of my fist, and I knew immediately

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it couldn't have been my brother or sister. I was

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far older and stronger than them, and I doubt I

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could have thrown it from any possible hiding spots. I

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then thought it might have been one of my friends

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who lived close. I knew Tommy was out of town

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visiting relatives, and Scotty had been in bed all week

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with a bad case of the flu. They were the

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only ones who ever came over, so I looked around again.

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Who was throwing rocks at me? The tracks probably should

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have sent me running home, but I honestly thought someone

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was playing a prank on me. My uncle's taught me

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that tracks made in the snow will expand when they melt,

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so I figured it was just a joke. I walked

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forward with a lot of confidence. You better knock it off.

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I'm throw rocks too, I said. Another rock was chucked

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at me. This time I saw it in mid flight,

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so I knew it was coming from the left corner

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of the woods near the property line. It was two

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hundred feet from me, and I thought, whoever was throwing

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these rocks must have a pretty good arm. Another rock

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landed ten feet to my right. I was getting angry now,

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so I walked over and picked it up before it

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stopped rolling. It was a little bigger than I would

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have normally wanted to throw, but in my frustration, I

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threw it back. Then I screamed an insult at whoever

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this was for good measure. My throw was way off

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the mark. It hit the ground well short of the

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tree line, so I looked around for another rock to throw.

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I found a few in the grass between the patches

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of snow, so I picked one up that fitted my

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hand better. This time, it hit a tree just inside

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the woodline. Then I saw a movement eighty feet to

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my left in the nearest section of trees. It was

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a lot closer to me than where the rocks were

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coming from. I only got a glimpse, maybe four or

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five seconds at most. Most of it was obscured by

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the thick brush and trees. I saw a dark upper

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portion of a massive right shoulder blade and a huge

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moving arm about seven feet off the ground. Also, I

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saw what looked like thick legs as it ran behind

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a tree. It was completely covered in reddish hair that

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bounced as it disappeared into the trees. I was nearly

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awe struck. Its movements were so graceful and fluid. It

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was completely different from how a deer or a human

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would move. Now I knew immediately it wasn't a bear

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or a cougar. It was too large. Both bears and

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cougars are extremely rare in Kentucky, and neither of them

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throw rocks. I barely had time to register what I

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was seeing when another rock landed five feet from me.

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It came from the same direction as the others. Then

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I heard heavy footfalls in the woods from that same direction.

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There were definitely more than one of them. To say

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I wasn't terrified would be a bold faced lie. I

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knew I had to get out of there. I was

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alone and on The nearest house was over half a

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mile away, on the other side of the valley and

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flanked by thick trees. I knew the elderly couple who

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lived there. They were nice people, but they wouldn't have

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been able to hear me even if they were outside,

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which they rarely were. My house was over three quarters

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of a mile away, and my mom and siblings had

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been inside watching TV when I left. At that moment,

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I forgot all about my girlfriend. Survival was my priority.

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I wanted to run, but I remembered what my uncles

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had told me about predators. Never turn your back on them,

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and running will kick in their instinct to chase. Fear

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turned into anger as I picked up as many rocks

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as I could find and started throwing them back towards

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the woods as fast as I could. I at least

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a string of obscenities and foul language as I did,

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all the while moving backwards a few dozen paces at

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a time. Years later, during my time in the military,

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I learned to call that a tactical retreat. More rocks

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are being thrown back at me now, and from two

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different directions. I switched targets back and forth as I

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slowly made my way back down the valley. Locked in

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combat with an unseen enemy. I was outnumbered and out

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gun but I kept throwing and moving and cussing and cursing.

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I doubted the cussing helped me, but it made me

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feel braver. It was probably only five minutes before I

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felt the hill under my feet, but it felt like hours.

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That meant I was closer to the relative safety of home.

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By now, those creatures had stopped throwing rocks at me.

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My accuracy had dropped off dramatically by then, anyway, and

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I scanned the woods once more for movement and listened

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for sounds. I didn't see or hear anything, and exhausted

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and sweating like i'd run a marathon, I took off

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my coat and stood there for another five minutes before

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I felt it was safe enough to turn and high

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tailor at home. I didn't tell my mother and siblings

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what had happened. I didn't want to scare them. The

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next day I told one of my uncles, who brought

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his shotgun over and slipped down into the valley with

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me to retrace my steps. I showed him the tracks

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in the snow. There were huge gouges in the hard

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dirt where the rocks and landed. We walked into the

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woodline where I had seen the one running. That's where

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I compared the size and height of the trees to

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the spot where I saw the shoulder and the arm.

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This thing must have been massive, but we didn't find

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any tracks there. We left the area, but not before

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I noticed that my uncle was being unusually quiet. After

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we got back to the house and well away from

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my mom, he told me that he'd had a strange

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experience there many years before. My eldest uncle served in Vietnam.

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He's a quiet man who rarely shows his emotions or

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gets upset. When he came home from the war, he

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couldn't wait to get back into his beloved woods where

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he could hunt and fish. And then he finally got

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the chance, and it was a bittersweet experience. It isn't

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an easy transition from life of daily combat back to

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a peaceful civilian existence. The woods of Kentucky looked nothing

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like the jungles of Southeast Asia, but the oppressive feeling

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of the dense vegetation and the limited visibility are similar.

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It took him quite a while to get over the

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nagging fear of someone waiting behind every bush to kill him.

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Slowly he worked his way back to his favorite fishing spots.

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Once he was comfortable, he began to hunt again. One

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day he was out hunting squirrel alone with his twenty

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two rifle. He was also carrying a revolver in his

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hip holster. He walked for hours and saw a few

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squirrels that they were too small to trouble with. When

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he decided to take a break, he sat down under

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a large tree on top of a heavily wooded ridge line.

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From there, he had a clear view down into the

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nearby holler. He'd been sitting there for about ten minutes

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when he saw movement below. He only saw bushes moving,

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but he suspected it was a deer. It was too

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early for deer season, but knowing their paths might help

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him decide where to build a stand later. He decided

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to go down check it out. He got up and

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slowly made his way down to the holler. The trees

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and underbrush made it impossible to get a clear view

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of whatever was moving around, but he found a little

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path that had made Whatever it was, he knew it

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wasn't a deer. It looked almost like a small bulldozer

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had made the path, like six deer had walked inside

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by side. He never seen them move that way, and

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plus the vegetation looked like it had been smashed aside

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and pulled out of the way. He didn't find any tracks,

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but it was clear that something heavy had walked through here.

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He told me he should have left right then and there,

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but he was young and curiosity got the better of him.

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He moved forward, pondering what kind of critter could make

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such a path. Was it a bear? No, Black bears

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aren't much whiter than a deer. Besides, he'd never seen

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a bear in this part of the state. Cougars and

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mountain lions came to mind, but he quickly ruled them

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out as well. Suddenly there was a loud crash, like

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a tree breaking under a great strain, and it echoed

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across the haller. Then the woods grew eerily quiet. There

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were no birds chirping, no bees buzzing, no worlds or

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any other animals making any sounds. Alarmed, and reverting back

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to his military training, he quickly veered off the trail

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and hid down among the tall grass on his belly.

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He lay there in the silence for several minutes, wondering

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if his mind was playing tricks on him. He was

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about to move away when he heard a sound that

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I was familiar with. First, there was a thump several

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yards away, and then another one a little closer. He

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looked up over the tall grass and he saw a

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rock coming in his direction. He crawled away, hoping that

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that would throw his attacker off his position, and it

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almost worked. The next rock landed farther away, but it

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was adjusting for his movement. He decided that this thing

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must be a human. He couldn't think of anything else

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in Kentucky that could throw rocks. With his rifle and pistol,

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my uncle felt reasonably assured that he was sick, so

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he stood up and he called out. He doesn't remember

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what he said, but it was something to the effect

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of asking them not to throw rocks at him, but

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no one answered. He then told them that he was armed,

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and he expected to get an answer, or at least

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hear them leave, but he got neither. He began to

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make his way out of there. Like me, He walked backwards,

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with his eyes scanning for threats. He moved quickly. It

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was too late to worry about being quiet. Whatever it was,

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it knew exactly where he was. Another rock hit the

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ground at his feet and bounced into his right leg.

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It didn't hurt him. But it startled him greatly. He

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didn't lose his cool. He pulled his rifle up and

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scanned the area in a quick three sixty. He was

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still convinced it was people, so he threatened to shoot

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if another rock was thrown. Well, something moved in the bushes,

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but he couldn't see what it was. It had to

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be a human. He wasn't prepared to accept any other alternative.

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He kept backing up and moving his head from side

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to side, and then an incredibly loud growl broke the

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silence and reverberated through his chest. He said he'd never

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heard anything like it before or since. At this point,

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my uncle knew two things. It was very close, and

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it wasn't human. Instinct kicked in. He fired into the bushes,

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shifted position, chambered another round, and then he fired again.

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He doubted he hid anything, but he was hoping to

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scare it off. And then another rock flew at him.

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It landed a little further away than the last, but

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that was enough. He turned and bolted for a nearby

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grove of trees. It didn't offer much shelter, but it

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was better than nothing. He pulled at his pistol and

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sat there for maybe an hour, waiting for or another confrontation.

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His nerves were on edge. He's not a religious man,

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but he said he did a lot of praying that day.

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But nothing more happened, and soon the sounds of the

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woods were turned to normal, as if nothing had ever happened.

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He was feeling foolish, and he made his way back

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to the ridge and looked over the area one more time.

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He didn't see anything unusual and gladly went home empty handed.

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He didn't tell anyone else about his experience for a

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long time. He didn't think anyone would believe him. Eventually

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he told his brother later. He told me. In a way,

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my uncle and I bonded that day, we both had

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a strange experience that we couldn't explain. At least, he'd

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been armed with throwing rocks back at something that's throwing

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rocks at me. Probably wasn't very smart, but it seemed

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like my best option at the time. Fortunately, neither of

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us had seen anything. Since, now that I'm older and

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perhaps a bit wiser, I don't think that whatever was

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throwing rocks at us was trying to hurt us. I

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think it was warning us to get out of the area.

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At least, that's my two cents worth. You can believe

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whatever you choose to believe.

