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Speaker 3: M It is Thursday, February sixth, twenty and twenty five.
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Speaker 1: Just to oay you hold on straight. That's that's my thing.
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Speaker 4: I was talking to the producer and he lives in Michigan,
Speaker 4: and I say, I say, Sean, how cold it is
Speaker 4: gray today? And and and in Tampa it was eighty one.
Speaker 4: Oh man, you know what he say, Swerve when you land,
Speaker 4: its gonna be twenty seven.
Speaker 3: I say, damn, hey, that's the high the low. It's
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Speaker 1: Man, So can you go from eighty one to twenty seven.
Speaker 3: Just like that two and a half hours. It's gonna
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Speaker 3: You know that we got high. He even got basketball,
Speaker 3: and we got a live event. Let's put that up
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Speaker 3: and Straight and all the rest of the crew will
Speaker 3: be at mash with so many Misschigan State athletes.
Speaker 2: I mean, we got a lot of RSVPs. Some of
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Speaker 4: My mama used to say, say it when you go
Speaker 4: over them people house don't ack a donkey.
Speaker 1: Guess what. She can't tell me what to do now,
Speaker 1: So I'm like wonky. Hey, but I would like for all.
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Speaker 1: Didn't put it on the on the show.
Speaker 2: That's right. People don't know that intro with you screaming.
Speaker 3: That was from the last live event that we did
Speaker 3: after a spring football game over at Fieldhouse. This is
Speaker 3: now doing something with Mash. It's gonna be fun. A
Speaker 3: lot of people there are a lot of excitement. And
Speaker 3: we're gonna watch a hockey game too against the school
Speaker 3: down the road. Michigan State's gonna be playing against Michigan twice.
Speaker 3: You're gonna be at the game in mon on Tomorrow night.
Speaker 3: It's the basketball game on Saturday when is old no
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Speaker 2: Big ten record.
Speaker 3: And then we're going to mash on Saturday night, and
Speaker 3: anybody who's around please jam to place up. It's gonna
Speaker 3: be fun. Before we get into our jam packs show.
Speaker 3: We got special yesterday. We got a huge recruiting blitz
Speaker 3: that we got to go through the signing day. There
Speaker 3: was a National Signing Day yesterday. By the way, we
Speaker 3: gotta get to that.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think about that sign of day straight.
Speaker 1: It's so quiet.
Speaker 4: It didn't get the It ain't give me the word
Speaker 4: with vocabulary where I'm working on my vocal. I'm not
Speaker 4: on your level yet, but give me the It didn't
Speaker 4: give me.
Speaker 1: The tension.
Speaker 4: Because the tension like it gave Early Signing Day. Early
Speaker 4: Signing Day, I mean it was on ESPN two. It
Speaker 4: was all on Twitter day about time by time, so
Speaker 4: I guess all the big names and all that sign
Speaker 4: but then you kind of forget about So I look
Speaker 4: at it like like, we had a lot of people signed.
Speaker 3: Do that mean they not on the level of the
Speaker 3: other guys? No, no, no, no, no, not at all. I
Speaker 3: think that you know, we're gonna get into that. And
Speaker 3: you said they had four sign these yesterday. I mean
Speaker 3: the nice class rounding out the class. But there was
Speaker 3: some big names that signed around, and you look for
Speaker 3: quality players. We're gonna get into that. We've got look
Speaker 3: man recruiting. When we talked recruiting, but now's who brings
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Speaker 3: Gotta get that good evening, Maureen, listen and Spartan fan.
Speaker 3: Trevor's in the house, Brad Gray. I mean, there's a
Speaker 3: lot of people in the house tonight getting ready for this.
Speaker 3: But listen, we got to get into a couple of
Speaker 3: things right now. Missisi State right now is facing Arizona
Speaker 3: out there in Arizona in Tucson.
Speaker 2: As a matter of facts, where it's the season opener.
Speaker 3: Uh, it's gonna be at the Candrea Classic, kicking things
Speaker 3: off with a double header against number sixteen Arizona kicked
Speaker 3: off about an hour ago.
Speaker 4: So we starting off with the number sixteen rate team
Speaker 4: in the country right in their hometown. Right Ooh, I
Speaker 4: don't want my babies to go out there, not not
Speaker 4: the fame we've been practiced inside.
Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, man, we're gonna talk to you about that.
Speaker 1: Why we play.
Speaker 4: The girl scouts of you know what I'm saying, the
Speaker 4: little lead, Why we got to jump out there and
Speaker 4: the fire so fast.
Speaker 2: Baptism by fires, that's what they want.
Speaker 4: To do, deaptize me. I want to put the ass
Speaker 4: like these little kids doing them to Pop Warner. Hey,
Speaker 4: imagine you you lost the game and you walk across
Speaker 4: shaking hands, and somebody got a built and then making
Speaker 4: Joey trying to tell me, iut what built day is?
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, yeah, going to jail.
Speaker 2: No no, ain't nobody.
Speaker 1: But you're doing.
Speaker 3: Especially down in Miami. They ain't County Brown County Park.
Speaker 3: You can't won the game. Game over.
Speaker 4: They walk across the shake hand, got bilps in their
Speaker 4: head telling about built days.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, we got we gotta slow that down.
Speaker 3: You gotta go down there and keep your babies out
Speaker 3: of jail, because that ain't right right there, you know,
Speaker 3: swear you know what this month is, right?
Speaker 2: Black History Month?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 3: Black History Month is the month of February. Yesterday, we
Speaker 3: celebrated something. In addition to Black History Month, we celebrated
Speaker 3: National Girls and Women's in Sports Day. Women in sports
Speaker 3: continue to break barriers and inspire the next generation.
Speaker 2: Swerve today and every day.
Speaker 3: We're proud to celebrate our women's student athletes and staff
Speaker 3: special day for special ways.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna be I'm gonna be real professional for
Speaker 4: Kyrie and Sean. Right, I just want to salute all
Speaker 4: the ladies. I'm a fan of women's sports. I mean,
Speaker 4: I watch gymnastics. I watch you see you see my
Speaker 4: education on softball. Two days ago, I watched women basketball. Now,
Speaker 4: I mean, I just don't want to watch. I watched
Speaker 4: women football. But it's the one where they.
Speaker 2: Were come up, man, here we go, here we go.
Speaker 2: Forget it that.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I support it. That's all, you know.
Speaker 3: I actually saw one live and I know, listen, we
Speaker 3: love all women in sports and in general in general,
Speaker 3: we do.
Speaker 4: So Mari, I hope that was I mean, Carrie Cayrie
Speaker 4: worked backstay. I hope that was good. I didn't say anything,
Speaker 4: you know, I just wanted, you know, women's sports.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, man, you know, speaking of women's sports
Speaker 3: and some of your babies.
Speaker 2: Right here, small forward, big again packed.
Speaker 3: Michigan State's women's basketball Grace Van Slewton is one of
Speaker 3: ten candidates for the Cheryl Miller a ward handed out
Speaker 3: angling to the nation's top small four.
Speaker 1: All I can say is beasts.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, beasts.
Speaker 4: I mean inside game, midge ring jumper defense, Oh beast
Speaker 4: an acompliment my other two nieces where they don't have
Speaker 4: to do so much because we got a beast right here.
Speaker 4: And number four is a beast too. That's why I
Speaker 4: can't wait to the tournament. I hope by the tournament
Speaker 4: times grade. Mama Hall, I have my blanket and I
Speaker 4: can put my blanket on like like how the people
Speaker 4: be at the games.
Speaker 1: But I ain't got it.
Speaker 3: Mama Hall will have a bank blanket at the event
Speaker 3: on Saturday. The blanket will be there, but not for you, Swerve,
Speaker 3: It's for somebody else. Sorry, but it will be there
Speaker 3: along with George. Jordan's delivering the thing.
Speaker 1: Mama.
Speaker 2: She ain't gonna be able to make it to this one.
Speaker 2: She's coming to the next one.
Speaker 4: You know what, I may slap the shit out of No.
Speaker 4: I saw him, I saw him working night like he
Speaker 4: done got I know Jordan got a couple more abs.
Speaker 2: Yeah he got small abs.
Speaker 4: Now, I've thought about slapping this shit out, but I
Speaker 4: ain't gonna do it. No, No, he did.
Speaker 2: Real Now that's a that's a that's a real linebacker
Speaker 2: right there.
Speaker 3: You better watch your ass all right, listen, we gotta
Speaker 3: keep it moving here because we got to bring on
Speaker 3: our presonal guests. But right now, we still got to
Speaker 3: talk about the fabulous freshman from Michigan State Tennis, Matthew
Speaker 3: Forbes I do this has been named victim Freshman of
Speaker 3: the Week SWERVE after earning a pair of single victories
Speaker 3: this past week, including a ranked win.
Speaker 1: But my only question to you do is shock you?
Speaker 4: No, thank you, don't shock you.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be.
Speaker 4: He's gonna be the name and take the control of
Speaker 4: the lead like my nephew, Oh is leading away because
Speaker 4: there's three ways you learn, watching, listen, and doing. And
Speaker 4: he got a hell of a leader, a hell of
Speaker 4: a player in front of him, and he's already a
Speaker 4: hell of a athlete.
Speaker 1: You know what that means.
Speaker 4: We're gonna have another big time player, just like Oh
Speaker 4: walk Away. And we got the kid that's from what
Speaker 4: North Carolina?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's him, that's him.
Speaker 1: Come on, I know I got CTV, but boy, come.
Speaker 2: On, Matt Forbes.
Speaker 3: Do we had a video of him so people can
Speaker 3: for the people in the back, do we have that.
Speaker 1: I do this shit? I do this shit.
Speaker 3: H yeah, man, come on, man, how you cannot love
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Speaker 1: Hey just full of shit.
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Speaker 3: recruiting in Michigan State football specifically, and we talk about
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Speaker 3: the experts, baby, that's all we do. We bringing a
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Speaker 2: This is Sparta, big dog.
Speaker 3: What's up, Cory see rup Jay straight.
Speaker 5: What's going on?
Speaker 2: Baby?
Speaker 3: Hey man, I know you've been dealing with some technical
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Speaker 2: There in these lands.
Speaker 3: And I heard they hit some power line and knocked
Speaker 3: all power out. But you found a way. That's what
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Speaker 4: S Yes, sir, I hope they're not the power I
Speaker 4: had the cigar lambs, because that's that I would be
Speaker 4: kissed off the power.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go over there. I'ma go over there with
Speaker 5: a generator. Make sure you're good.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Hey, guys, look, I know you guys have been following
Speaker 3: this in depth mission state football recruiting at a high level.
Speaker 3: You know, when you look at this class and what
Speaker 3: they were able to do. This is the second class
Speaker 3: in this particular staff coming here last year with not
Speaker 3: much runway.
Speaker 2: They didn't have a lot of time to get things together.
Speaker 3: And they were able to u secure guys like Nick
Speaker 3: Marsh who had a huge impact in his first year
Speaker 3: this year.
Speaker 2: Just yesterday. Obviously gonna get into the kids to sign
Speaker 2: early on. But yesterday they were four.
Speaker 3: Signees if I'm not mistaken, Uh, three of them from
Speaker 3: one school, Orchard Lake Saint Mary's, the other from Groves
Speaker 3: Local kids they're able to sign. When you look at
Speaker 3: this class, and I'll start with you, Corey, when you
Speaker 3: look at guys like Nick Hardy from Groves, what's your
Speaker 3: opinion on the acquisition of these particular athletes? Nick Hardy
Speaker 3: right here, wide receiver.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so he's a preferred walk on that they added.
Speaker 9: He turned down scholarship offers from four or five other schools,
Speaker 9: just the kind of you know, smaller schools, but come
Speaker 9: to Michigan State, learn from coach Hopkins, and you know,
Speaker 9: play at the biggest level, so kind of achieve his dream.
Speaker 9: So he's betting on himself to come here and get developed.
Speaker 9: So yeah, he's a good in state edition who has
Speaker 9: a chance to you know, show what he can do
Speaker 9: and maybe work his way into playing group and scholarships
Speaker 9: and all that stuff.
Speaker 10: So so yeah, he was.
Speaker 7: Definitely a solid edition.
Speaker 9: Comes from a program that's been winning a lot of
Speaker 9: football games lately, so really solid ad there.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you're talking about Grows. They went to the
Speaker 3: semi finals with not Mistaken this year.
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, and then they were good the year before too,
Speaker 9: they and had that big run well and then Avery
Speaker 9: Gatch were there and a.
Speaker 7: Couple other guys.
Speaker 9: So you get that strong senior class that kind and
Speaker 9: he was a big part of it.
Speaker 10: So mm hm.
Speaker 3: So you know, talking about the Orchard Late Saint Mary's crew,
Speaker 3: I think there's a total of five players that signed
Speaker 3: in Misign State, three of them yesterday.
Speaker 2: Big move.
Speaker 3: You know, what do you know about these guys, Bryce
Speaker 3: and Williams, Antonio Johnson and Darren Jones Jr.
Speaker 5: I think, uh, you know, as Corey talked about, they
Speaker 5: come from winning culture. You know, good football players, good ads,
Speaker 5: I think, decent ads, and you'll kind of go along
Speaker 5: with can you guys me? Okay, yeah, okay, perfect. I
Speaker 5: think it just goes along with with the trend I'm
Speaker 5: seeing is that we're just getting guys that have just
Speaker 5: been you know, good football players produced at they're at
Speaker 5: the level they're on, and just coming them up here
Speaker 5: and developing them and asking us asking them to do
Speaker 5: things we already know they can do. So I like
Speaker 5: the class. I think there's some good foundational pieces and
Speaker 5: we're just kind of building that bottom roster up, the
Speaker 5: ross up from the bottom up, you know, just getting
Speaker 5: good football players in here order. Lake Saint Mary's is
Speaker 5: a good program. All the kids are well coached, They
Speaker 5: come prepared. So I'm excited for that group.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: You know, you talk about what they were able to
Speaker 3: do at orche Lake Saint Mary's, you talk about a
Speaker 3: winning program. Court Like, what have you heard on the
Speaker 3: street about that program and their ability uh to obviously
Speaker 3: come like a little East Lansing East over there in
Speaker 3: uh or to Lake Saint Mary's.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they got some somewhat newer coach, Jermaine Gonzalis took
Speaker 9: over Orchard Lake Saint Mary's has had a long history
Speaker 9: of being a top program. They they kind of got
Speaker 9: away from it from what their turn you know, what
Speaker 9: their standards are. They brought in that new coaching staff.
Speaker 9: And then I mean, obviously, as you saw Division two
Speaker 9: state champions this year, that's probably you know, I put
Speaker 9: that one up as maybe the most talented division in Michigan.
Speaker 9: So I mean, to win that is huge. And then
Speaker 9: as far as getting the players and developing them, I think, uh,
Speaker 9: they're just really honestly getting started too, because with this
Speaker 9: staff being newer, they're gonna start attracting a lot of
Speaker 9: those guys there where you look at like Antonio Johnson
Speaker 9: who signed with Michigan State yesterday. He started off at
Speaker 9: Detroit Martin Luther King and went there in a really
Speaker 9: unique setting because those kids, they you know, they stay
Speaker 9: on campus. They got dorms there, so they kind of
Speaker 9: get prepared for college life.
Speaker 7: They have you know, excellent.
Speaker 9: Facilities for a high school in the state of Michigan. So, uh,
Speaker 9: that's one of definitely one of my favorite stops to
Speaker 9: go to. You know, the red turf on the for
Speaker 9: the football field and just just you know, it feels
Speaker 9: like a little little miniature college campus.
Speaker 2: What so.
Speaker 3: So Portrae Lake Saint Mary's did open the dorms up now,
Speaker 3: so it is more like a IMG style you know
Speaker 3: boarding school.
Speaker 9: Now yea, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they they're living there.
Speaker 9: You know, they go home for the weekend. That's a
Speaker 9: nice thing with a lot of them, you know, because
Speaker 9: they're from the area, so they can go home see
Speaker 9: mom and dad all through the week and everything, or
Speaker 9: you know, go home and get some home cooked food
Speaker 9: on the weekends. But yeah, yeah, so they're they're grinding,
Speaker 9: like I mean, that's a big thing where you look at.
Speaker 7: Like Antonio Johnson, the offensive lineman.
Speaker 9: Like like he's a hell of a player. Uh when
Speaker 9: he transferred from King to there. You know, there's different
Speaker 9: academic standards, so some of his credits didn't go over.
Speaker 9: So that's kind of what derailed his recruitment a little
Speaker 9: bit with some teams because they had to you know,
Speaker 9: he had to bust his ass to get qualified, Like
Speaker 9: he was taking extra load to make up for those
Speaker 9: lost transfer credits. Okay, So, like I mean, because he's
Speaker 9: a kid freshman and sophomore year, you had, you know,
Speaker 9: all the big teams were there, and and then he
Speaker 9: you know, he'd made that transfer the final couple of
Speaker 9: years at Orchard Lake, and I mean, he had to
Speaker 9: play some major catchup to do that decision. So like,
Speaker 9: I mean, you take a kid like that that you know,
Speaker 9: he's busting his ass to qualify. He's not coming to
Speaker 9: Michigan State to be averaged. Like like he didn't just
Speaker 9: take all them extra classes because it's fun. Like so
Speaker 9: a lot a lot of credit to him and his
Speaker 9: coaching staff and the academic advisors, his parents, everybody to
Speaker 9: fowle that through.
Speaker 10: And you know, so he's a kid that, like.
Speaker 9: We saw Orchard Lake three times this year, and like
Speaker 9: he stood out as an offensive linement of course, but
Speaker 9: he's actually a.
Speaker 10: Really good defensive tackle too, So.
Speaker 9: I I mean that that options on the board. But
Speaker 9: he's definitely starting that offensive line for Michigan State and
Speaker 9: really hungry kid that you know, driven and.
Speaker 7: He wants to succeed.
Speaker 9: He didn't lose his opportunity to do to some academic
Speaker 9: stuff early on.
Speaker 3: No, that's a that's a great point there, and like
Speaker 3: we were going to definitely take all the questions that
Speaker 3: are in the chat. Anybody feel free to put questions
Speaker 3: in the live chat.
Speaker 2: We will get to those for sure.
Speaker 3: You know, a big move we're asking him when we
Speaker 3: talked a little bit about Antonio Johnson here with his
Speaker 3: ability to play both sides of the ball. Uh, you know,
Speaker 3: when I see his pictures, he's talking, he's got the
Speaker 3: hand on the ball. He's talking like an offensive lineman.
Speaker 3: The fact that he busted his ass in the classroom,
Speaker 3: Swerve says that he's an offensive lineman. But big movie,
Speaker 3: you've seen that he's a tear on the defensive side
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 5: I think, you know what, this is just my personal opinion.
Speaker 5: I saw that I liked the kids body type and
Speaker 5: he's want to like you and I talked before when
Speaker 5: I look at kids and as far as where I
Speaker 5: project him on the next couple of years, he looks
Speaker 5: like a big ten, like the body type of a
Speaker 5: big ten conterioritylignement. I can see him playing. But look,
Speaker 5: we gotta fill.
Speaker 7: In power.
Speaker 4: You better run for cover. But you know the thing
Speaker 4: about the thing about that kid that that intrigues me,
Speaker 4: and I've got some kind of hope that he had
Speaker 4: to do. He had to do extra work to get qualified.
Speaker 4: Sound like a lot of athletes that I know talking
Speaker 4: about myself. Yeah, wait a.
Speaker 3: Minute, and you want to mind me?
Speaker 1: So you know the history of mine behind.
Speaker 2: Right, What do you think? What's what's up c Rob?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think like like he grew up a lot
Speaker 9: of the person too, like where but he's like that guy.
Speaker 9: He's got that dog to him, you know where, Like
Speaker 9: he's got that confidence when he goes there like he's
Speaker 9: not they're just to mess around. He's there to dominate
Speaker 9: his guy. So but yeah, I think defensive line, offensive line,
Speaker 9: wherever you know they need him, he's gonna do something.
Speaker 2: Sorry, big movie, you got back. I know you have
Speaker 2: a little text, so you're back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I said, I just like seeing athletic dudes
Speaker 5: get put on the defense. I think, especially where you
Speaker 5: see often the way the offenses are going with tempo
Speaker 5: and rpo. As many big athletes we can get on
Speaker 5: the defensive side of the field, I think the sooner
Speaker 5: you'll see us return to that sort of that spartan
Speaker 5: dog defense. So I'm encouraged by that guy. I like
Speaker 5: his film. There's one of the things when I watch
Speaker 5: film and I'm watching high school guys. If if I
Speaker 5: turn the film on, I gotta watch maybe you know
Speaker 5: four or five, six, ten players to figure out which
Speaker 5: one you are, you ain't it and you cut the
Speaker 5: film on. That kid shows up right away. You know
Speaker 5: he's moving bodies. Guys that he hits, they stay hit.
Speaker 5: He plays hard, and that's that's That's one of those
Speaker 5: things when you see a young offensive line, young big guy,
Speaker 5: you don't have to all just a young big guy
Speaker 5: that plays hard. It's in good shape. You know, that's
Speaker 5: encouraging going to that next level because what's coming that
Speaker 5: that that big tak condition is a different level. And
Speaker 5: to see that guy come in already in good shape,
Speaker 5: in decent cardio, that said a lot for him, But
Speaker 5: it also speaks of that program that we're getting five
Speaker 5: kids from. They do a good job of getting those
Speaker 5: guys prepared for the next level.
Speaker 1: So move, let me ask you this.
Speaker 4: And I'm one person that I hate the school from
Speaker 4: down down, down the block, down the street from over yonder,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But how are we and
Speaker 4: I'm not comparing for as you know, ranking or whatever
Speaker 4: it may be far as the player, because I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm wonder those don't believe in that so much. But
Speaker 4: you guys look at more film on these guys than
Speaker 4: we do. How do we compare to the school that's
Speaker 4: wherever they're from down the street over there. Because on
Speaker 4: Twitter and social media, they compare contrasting us and they're
Speaker 4: killing us talking about you know, they they are recruiting us.
Speaker 1: We're not recruiting the same guys they recruit.
Speaker 5: We don't have a chance.
Speaker 4: They going after the big names, and you know, how
Speaker 4: do we compare with those guys?
Speaker 1: Because I hate the mother I'm.
Speaker 5: Sorry, I mean, I think you gotta win the off season.
Speaker 5: I mean, like we just right now, let's just you know,
Speaker 5: just be honest. We're we're at as a program. We
Speaker 5: got to find the right guys and and and coach
Speaker 5: them up. And that's just where we're at. That's just
Speaker 5: that the reality of the situation. You know, when you're
Speaker 5: coming off of you know, three three straight losing seasons,
Speaker 5: you're it's tough. So these coaches got to get out
Speaker 5: there and they got to evaluate, and they got to
Speaker 5: teach the game. I mean, but let's just let's just
Speaker 5: be honest. There's a lot more guys that can play
Speaker 5: that we've never heard of than there are guys that
Speaker 5: can play that we've heard of. So just because we
Speaker 5: don't they might not be the five stars that mean
Speaker 5: they can't play football. There's a lot of three stars
Speaker 5: that end up being really good football players. And it's
Speaker 5: interesting enough. I like where we're headed because you're starting
Speaker 5: to see a lot of guys senior film get evaluated
Speaker 5: that probably wouldn't have would have gotten overlooked before. So
Speaker 5: for us, I think we're in a good position. There's
Speaker 5: a lot of good football all players out there that,
Speaker 5: let's face it, the big schools can't get them all.
Speaker 5: So just you know, as long as they check your boxes,
Speaker 5: you think they can play for you.
Speaker 2: I'm all for it. Now.
Speaker 5: At the same time, we do need to have some
Speaker 5: guys on our team that can start for guys we're
Speaker 5: playing against. You know, if you can't play against you
Speaker 5: can't play for the guys we're playing against. We're probably
Speaker 5: not gonna beat it. Our starters got to be good
Speaker 5: enough to me our Our first four to four got
Speaker 5: to be good enough to play for anybody, and then
Speaker 5: we'll fill in from there. But you got to get that,
Speaker 5: you know, the depth, you know, the ones and two
Speaker 5: has got to be good enough to play with anybody.
Speaker 5: And that just comes from coaching and evaluating the teaching.
Speaker 9: Then getting guys that fit what you want to because
Speaker 9: I mean you look at Indiana like like they they've
Speaker 9: built that with guys from James Madison and the tiny schools.
Speaker 10: You know, they're not that that wasn't.
Speaker 9: Built because they had those five stars. That's built that
Speaker 9: they got guys that are good football players that play
Speaker 9: can do what.
Speaker 10: The offense and defense is asking them.
Speaker 2: I've been a.
Speaker 3: Big you know, been bullish on Signetti and what he
Speaker 3: was able to do in Indiana last year. I mean,
Speaker 3: going from Mike basically the bottom of then to that
Speaker 3: you know, nearly a playoff. You know, uh, they did
Speaker 3: play in the playoffs. As a matter of fact, the
Speaker 3: first game you look at them, they did bring over
Speaker 3: the guys that he coached at that smaller school, so
Speaker 3: they knew the system a lot when you look at
Speaker 3: it the whole, the way that the game is set
Speaker 3: up right now, fans for a portal, you know it
Speaker 3: does give every team you know and in hope because
Speaker 3: you can you can really full you know, things over
Speaker 3: very fast by being very active in the port question
Speaker 3: that we have right here from it looks like Ariel
Speaker 3: she asked the question, what are ms us remaining needs
Speaker 3: in the second transfer portal window? Now that's looking out
Speaker 3: a little bit, Can you guys see where the roster
Speaker 3: is right now and give an example of what you
Speaker 3: think Mississi needs to do after?
Speaker 7: Yeah, they need they need a pass rusher.
Speaker 10: In the corner back for sure.
Speaker 4: Let's not break up cornerback because I'm still honey Badger
Speaker 4: down there in Miami and the shorts we just gold teething.
Speaker 4: And there I saw him the you're talking about, Charles,
Speaker 4: I saw him the today straight Yeah go they got
Speaker 4: short song with flip flops.
Speaker 2: Charles Brandley.
Speaker 4: He threw up to you, yeah, right in front of
Speaker 4: my face man ship hurts graight.
Speaker 7: They did pretty good in the portal.
Speaker 9: I think this year with the corners where you got
Speaker 9: what's his name the Texas State could uh losing my
Speaker 9: brain here on who he was. Then one second, I
Speaker 9: look at my phone real quick, Joshua Joshua eating Uh.
Speaker 9: We just redid our transfer portal rankings at twenty four
Speaker 9: to seven yesterday or two days ago. He's up to
Speaker 9: a ninety two rating, which is insanely high, like a
Speaker 9: number seventy player in the entire transfer portal. And then
Speaker 9: there's nage Bert the Eastern Illinois corner. Our guys didn't
Speaker 9: catch up on him. But I've talked to plenty of
Speaker 9: people in the Michigan State staff, like they're saying, that
Speaker 9: guy's a dude. So I think you got better there.
Speaker 9: I think at defensive back, you get so many of
Speaker 9: them out there now that you're always gonna want more,
Speaker 9: so you go get that in the second window, just
Speaker 9: because you can never have enough good defensive backs. But
Speaker 9: I think this is the best year they've had at
Speaker 9: the defensive backs, at adding guys that are going to
Speaker 9: come in and play like like I mean, we can
Speaker 9: you know, Charles was really good last year until he
Speaker 9: was injured.
Speaker 7: But I mean.
Speaker 10: We also can look at the other.
Speaker 9: Two years too, where it wasn't be that So uh,
Speaker 9: you know, it's all about coaching. If you coach these
Speaker 9: guys and you've got some good athletes that are going
Speaker 9: to put in the work, you know, because I thought
Speaker 9: the beginning years, if we go back to the Moult
Speaker 9: Tucker stuff, it was scheme was an issue, like they're
Speaker 9: just playing off you know where like you got third
Speaker 9: and eight, you know where that line is. You don't
Speaker 9: go beyond that line, and they don't.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, So I mean, I mean, because you saw when
Speaker 9: Harlan took over, he must walk them into a bowl
Speaker 9: game when everything in that locker room was fractured because.
Speaker 10: They got rid of that stupield all as the bail
Speaker 10: defense that they were playing right right.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, like when you look at you
Speaker 3: talking about the cornerbacks, because that's the one area of need.
Speaker 3: When you look at the defensive back end right now,
Speaker 3: and you look at guys in the secondary right now,
Speaker 3: you've got to returning guys like Malik Spencer. You've gotten
Speaker 3: the Kaile Martinez I mean, and Dylan hate them that
Speaker 3: can play that that nickel slot spot right there. You
Speaker 3: got a lot of experience and great players in that
Speaker 3: back end. Just having some guys that could play corner
Speaker 3: is necessary. You know, what do you guys think about
Speaker 3: Michigan State defensively as far as being able to meet
Speaker 3: their needs in the recruiting world and the portal?
Speaker 5: You know, I think, I mean, listen, there's guys out there,
Speaker 5: and it wouldn't We'll have a better idea. But like
Speaker 5: the touchover of course said, we definitely want to see it.
Speaker 5: I'd say two edge rushers and probably too Probably two
Speaker 5: corners and a safety would be my guest. And probably
Speaker 5: if we could find a veteran top end speed receiver,
Speaker 5: I think they would also take that as well.
Speaker 9: Yeah, tight end to maybe get another tight end in there,
Speaker 9: but but yeah, I think like you can never have
Speaker 9: enough pass rushers. Again, I think they could. The Polynesian
Speaker 9: kid from Hawaii or whatever that was that was kind
Speaker 9: of last year. He was another big riser for us
Speaker 9: in our rankings. An Alou Lafalle. His dad's a head
Speaker 9: coach at one of the premiere Hawaiian high school programs
Speaker 9: down there, so he knows what he's doing. He's got
Speaker 9: a couple family members that have done it at this level.
Speaker 10: Talking to the.
Speaker 9: Guys that were at Wisconsin covering them, like he was
Speaker 9: really close as a true freshman to you know, being
Speaker 9: that guy, but they wanted to add some extra weight
Speaker 9: on him, which he's been able to do. So he's
Speaker 9: a guy definitely this spring that we're going to keep
Speaker 9: an eye on. Where you see his tape that he put,
Speaker 9: you know, out from spring practice or whatever during the
Speaker 9: season at Wisconsin. Like the speed that he has coming
Speaker 9: off the edge is something Michigan State.
Speaker 10: Hasn't had in a while.
Speaker 9: So and then David Santiago the Air Force Academy, he
Speaker 9: was another guy that rose pretty high in our emails
Speaker 9: with our site. So you know, six foot four, stand
Speaker 9: up edge type of guy. So they got some guys,
Speaker 9: but like as as Ron mentioned that, like you always
Speaker 9: need more because you're losing a couple of guys too,
Speaker 9: like Bogel, and you know you get to hopefully you
Speaker 9: see a step up with Thompson, Jalen Thompson.
Speaker 7: Getting a little bit bigger role.
Speaker 10: So but yeah, I.
Speaker 9: Think defensive end is probably the biggest thing for me
Speaker 9: that they need in the spring to add to what
Speaker 9: they have.
Speaker 3: You know, you talked about a couple of Polynesian players
Speaker 3: there and they haven't seen a huge influx of Polynesian players.
Speaker 2: It's hard to get.
Speaker 3: Once you start doing that, it seems like a trend
Speaker 3: that like start flooding the air waves, you know at
Speaker 3: a particular university. You see that back in the Peko days, right,
Speaker 3: you know, starting with Tupe and you had Dominta Demana
Speaker 3: Peko that that played about thirty five years in the NFL.
Speaker 3: You have guys now, you know, do you credit this
Speaker 3: big swing urge to Leggy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely one hundred percent.
Speaker 9: Like for those type of players, like it's it's one
Speaker 9: hundred percent culture driven.
Speaker 10: It's like they're they're not logo.
Speaker 9: Chasing like you know, some of them do end up
Speaker 9: at Ohio State, Georgia, those type of schools, but that's
Speaker 9: not what drives them. What drives them or most of
Speaker 9: them is the culture and having people that they can
Speaker 9: relate with. So, I mean, you see, since this staff's
Speaker 9: gotten here with Leggi, you brought in a couple high
Speaker 9: school guys in the first class, rust.
Speaker 10: And young and the defensive end.
Speaker 7: Uh, then you.
Speaker 9: Brought in a couple of transfer portal guys like Ben
Speaker 9: Roberts and some of them, and now you've got two
Speaker 9: guys coming in this transfer portal window. I thought they
Speaker 9: probably should have hit that that harder in the twenty
Speaker 9: twenty five class, but you're starting to see in twenty
Speaker 9: twenty six and twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 7: I think they're like.
Speaker 9: All like recruiting the area is nice, but if we
Speaker 9: got a dude that can get us the Polynesian guys,
Speaker 9: we need to go get the Polynesian guys.
Speaker 7: So you saw Legie, you spend.
Speaker 9: A lot of time in Hawaii and California and the
Speaker 9: areas that a lot of those guys are playing at.
Speaker 9: So I think you're going to see a much bigger
Speaker 9: focus on adding more of that in the twenty twenty
Speaker 9: sixth class.
Speaker 5: In the piggyback off of that, also tapping into some
Speaker 5: of the past players. You know the Bob A Pieces
Speaker 5: of the World and the Damien Hire rooms, and you
Speaker 5: know guys that have been here that can you know,
Speaker 5: show these gentlemen, these young men, what you know what
Speaker 5: Michigan State's about, and that the cold weather isn't all
Speaker 5: that bad, that they can play come here play great football,
Speaker 5: you know, go to the league. Like you said, Pecko played,
Speaker 5: you know, he played when it was black and white TV.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 10: So he just.
Speaker 5: Retired last week, right right right, you know he came
Speaker 5: in with you guys and finished playing in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5: So no, but seriously, like you know Michigan statement, we
Speaker 5: have a you know, rich tradition of having Polynesian players here,
Speaker 5: and you know it. I don't think I don't truthfully,
Speaker 5: I don't think we do a good enough job, you know,
Speaker 5: telling people that story. We need we need to you know,
Speaker 5: we need to get Bob A. P's out here. We
Speaker 5: need I ranted the Damien High Room. I rented a
Speaker 5: Damien at the building because we had a couple of
Speaker 5: his cousins out, you know, his twin cousins from Utah
Speaker 5: in the summer that we're recruiting. So we need to
Speaker 5: take advantage of that. Like it's a great place. We've
Speaker 5: we've had players here from that and the Sea coach
Speaker 5: do that. I think I think he's just beginning. Of course,
Speaker 5: we're just scratching the service on that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm speaking of delmach how his son is a
Speaker 9: hell of a player in the twenty twenty sixth class
Speaker 9: Joseph So Uh, Michigan State's got to offer out to him.
Speaker 9: So but yeah, so that all of the former guys
Speaker 9: need to kind of rally around him and you know,
Speaker 9: bring him over here too.
Speaker 10: But but yeah, he's a.
Speaker 1: Got a lot of coach.
Speaker 4: Now, we got a great quoture at east Landson, and
Speaker 4: I can tell you that we got plenty of nationalities
Speaker 4: that that just love football.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, there's a lot of that.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Look, look you talk about a guy that with the
Speaker 3: high school recruiting that's a Probalynesia player.
Speaker 2: You know, we'll be going to or a little bit here,
Speaker 2: linebacker Leonard I you I love them, you know Marine.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I am excited for the Hawaiian names. I
Speaker 3: love politician names. But are you lined back two undred
Speaker 3: and fifteen pounds? You know, this is a kid that
Speaker 3: helped Cahuku to a twelve and two record in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two for the Stag title and they finished rank
Speaker 3: number one.
Speaker 1: To say the wife first of all, I would never
Speaker 1: spell I you like that?
Speaker 7: That's funny.
Speaker 9: The December press conference, somebody asked them how Jonathan Smith
Speaker 9: how to say it, and he's like, you like, it's
Speaker 9: exactly how it's saying, because they were expecting it to
Speaker 9: be something, you know, weird and off the wall, and
Speaker 9: they're like, no, it's just literally.
Speaker 5: What it says, Big mother, what do you think about? Yeah,
Speaker 5: they hit the player. You know, he's he's a player,
Speaker 5: the mature player, you know, had a year of you know,
Speaker 5: had a couple of years off. So we're getting a
Speaker 5: mature guy physically developed already. You know, I think we're again.
Speaker 5: Anytime we can get big, physical guys that are that
Speaker 5: are explosive, that that love ball, I think that's a
Speaker 5: win for us. And and getting that guy in the field,
Speaker 5: getting them out here and have them called back home
Speaker 5: and FaceTime all that with his buddies and telling them
Speaker 5: how graded is out here, you know, only opens up
Speaker 5: that avenue, that pipeline for our football. But that kid's
Speaker 5: a stud I'm men tell you right now that when
Speaker 5: I see them find guys like that, I get excited
Speaker 5: because that was that was real good evaluation tonight.
Speaker 2: That kid's a player.
Speaker 9: And they have experience with the Mormon mission. Guys like that,
Speaker 9: like like if you gave that to Jonathan Smith, John L.
Speaker 9: Smith or something like that that's not used to it.
Speaker 9: Maybe maybe he fumbles it, but these guys are used
Speaker 9: to taking guys that have went on those missions and
Speaker 9: getting them back into football shape and back in line.
Speaker 9: So because they did that at Oregon State and stops
Speaker 9: on the West coast where it's more common.
Speaker 7: Uh so, so.
Speaker 2: A two year mission.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so he'll be here and uh.
Speaker 10: Maybe maybe a little before May, but.
Speaker 9: I think his mission is over in March. But but yeah,
Speaker 9: so yeah, so he was like in the Samoa or
Speaker 9: something the last couple of years.
Speaker 4: See, we got we got coaches like that on the
Speaker 4: staff that can go into that coaches they had me
Speaker 4: move move on the staff. I can get all the
Speaker 4: kids out of the project, cause that's what I'm.
Speaker 2: Real cheese.
Speaker 1: I can go get them keys. We need some of
Speaker 1: them too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not gonna We're not gonna win the way
Speaker 2: we want to win.
Speaker 5: If everybody touched their shirts into their jeans and has
Speaker 5: no face of here, we ain't go.
Speaker 2: We gotta we got.
Speaker 5: Hey, Hey, we got to ask some that came from
Speaker 5: that neighborhood. If you left your bike outside, it used
Speaker 5: to be your bike.
Speaker 4: Hey, I had a coach, had a coach say he
Speaker 4: wanted to recruit the kids that got the red eyes.
Speaker 3: Hey, somebody put on one of our social media platforms,
Speaker 3: big movie. You wanted you to tell the GP story.
Speaker 5: I don't know what that meant, oh mane of one
Speaker 5: of one of the GP stories or any one of
Speaker 5: your best ones. Oh man, you know what in nineteen
Speaker 5: ninety man, I came into ninety one. Man, you know
Speaker 5: my first man? Okay, funny story, Man, I couldn't you
Speaker 5: know that two twenty five tests? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I want, I want a big move back.
Speaker 5: Then I was one hundred and eighty pound move when
Speaker 5: that two twenty five test ball killed me. And uh,
Speaker 5: GP wouldn't call me armstrong man. He called me armed.
Speaker 5: He said, I got to earn the rest.
Speaker 2: He took the strong off.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 2: That was caroused advertising. You're just armed right now? Man?
Speaker 2: How many reps you get? Man to twenty five win the.
Speaker 7: First time?
Speaker 1: Man? About my test in Man, that was it? That
Speaker 1: was it?
Speaker 4: That was it.
Speaker 5: Run I did it the sprint test, and that that
Speaker 5: that half mile was easy. The weight room, brot jack.
Speaker 1: We had to do a mile and a half.
Speaker 2: Half Yeah, mom and a half.
Speaker 1: Ship that wasn't easy.
Speaker 2: Oh, that was. That was easy.
Speaker 5: I killed the man and a half the sprint test,
Speaker 5: the weight room. The weight room was when you went
Speaker 5: in the doctor's office before they saw you. I ain't
Speaker 5: had nothing but long wrist back then, man, I ain't
Speaker 5: had no arms, had long wrists.
Speaker 2: And that's gentlemen, that has made it.
Speaker 1: Are you seriously run? That's what.
Speaker 6: She is?
Speaker 2: Highly here?
Speaker 5: It is right here.
Speaker 7: His cat.
Speaker 9: Yeah, she's been now, she's been waiting behind my computer
Speaker 9: this whole time. I've just been waiting for the jump in.
Speaker 2: What's her name?
Speaker 7: Lulu?
Speaker 4: You know it's a lou sub and uh and Jimmy John,
Speaker 4: I get it all the time listen, but no, no,
Speaker 4: I mean you can train them a little bit, but
Speaker 4: they they're doing what they want to do.
Speaker 1: So do you talk to the cat and you yeah, definitely, Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm actual because I wouldn't.
Speaker 9: Never have a cat we got we got one of
Speaker 9: them where we get her treats and she'll like like
Speaker 9: shake your hand and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Like you got more than one cat?
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I got to.
Speaker 2: Remember the one that was I remember the one that
Speaker 2: was climbing on you.
Speaker 9: That one.
Speaker 1: So what's the thing, what's the thing around ther neck.
Speaker 9: I think we got some new shampoo or something at
Speaker 9: her skind like, so she kept licking herself. So we
Speaker 9: gotta keep her from looking liquor for.
Speaker 7: What.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, listen in my next life, I'm serious,
Speaker 4: I want to be an animal because these dogs and
Speaker 4: they get so much like if I see another person
Speaker 4: in the stroller walking the dog, I'm gonna lose it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you wasn't like my neighborhood.
Speaker 5: Then, man, they got the strollers, they got, they got
Speaker 5: they got the cross body bag for the dog. Man, hey, man,
Speaker 5: But look, man, I gotta I gotta give this show
Speaker 5: some props because I see a lot of shows and
Speaker 5: y'all talk a lot of things, crossed a lot of spectrums.
Speaker 5: But the one thing I cant y'all proce for, and
Speaker 5: none of y'all went out there and put that shoe
Speaker 5: polishing y'all beard, man, So I appreciate y'all keeping up
Speaker 5: keeping it a butty. None of y'all put that shoe
Speaker 5: polished at Carlos Boozer to your beard. You know, none
Speaker 5: of y'all did.
Speaker 2: That, So I appreciate that many a word.
Speaker 5: Bossing you with that jet black on, man, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: ask something, Fu, you don't be up here this weekend
Speaker 5: with the jet black man.
Speaker 4: Brun on my flight leaving in six more hours, and
Speaker 4: nothing I can do if I won't drive up.
Speaker 3: Keeping it one hundred no, Ryan Day, I love that. Listen,
Speaker 3: hey man, look we got we got a couple of
Speaker 3: a couple of more guys. Man, this is great right now.
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's any commercial, any questions coming
Speaker 3: out of chat right now. It's a lot of comments
Speaker 3: were not questions. But when you talking about the offensive
Speaker 3: line being addressed in this class, and you know you
Speaker 3: have Justin Bell coming out of McColl area right now,
Speaker 3: you're six foot six.
Speaker 2: Two hundred and eighty five pound.
Speaker 3: It was a basketball player put off nearly one hundred
Speaker 3: pounds in less.
Speaker 2: Than a year. And the nephew of Dave Seacura.
Speaker 5: Well, what do you know, you know, listen, just a big,
Speaker 5: big ten sized kid frame, big ten frame. You know,
Speaker 5: that's that's the first thing you see with offensive lineman
Speaker 5: is do they have the requisite size?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 5: The one thing that else concerned me that that amount
Speaker 5: of weight in a short period of time, that's a
Speaker 5: that's a that's a concern for me because you don't
Speaker 5: know if connective tissue. I'm not the doctor anything like that,
Speaker 5: but you put on that kind of weight, you know,
Speaker 5: you putting some strain on connective tissue and things like that.
Speaker 5: So it'll be interesting. But not him specifically, but it's
Speaker 5: a general offensive lineman. We just got to stay healthy.
Speaker 5: Like I like the bodies, I like the pieces, but man,
Speaker 5: we haven't had them on the field enough with each
Speaker 5: other to get any kind of you know, cohesion to
Speaker 5: figure out what we have. So we get those guys healthy,
Speaker 5: I think we have a chance to have a functional,
Speaker 5: you know, good big body, big ten offensive line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 9: I think the kids in the transfer portal, like you
Speaker 9: got Golvin the center from Wake Forest, like like he
Speaker 9: would be he would have been the best player on
Speaker 9: the offensive line and it's not even closed last year,
Speaker 9: so adding him is huge.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 9: And then obviously Connor Moore the Montana State UH offensive
Speaker 9: tackle where he was the big, big one.
Speaker 7: You know, where like he got the headlines.
Speaker 10: So so you're you're definitely.
Speaker 9: Improved there, but you know, it's a matter of staying
Speaker 9: healthy and working together.
Speaker 3: Hey, I like to see how they recruited him a
Speaker 3: kid from Montana State. I know, swear thinks it's Joe
Speaker 3: Montana State, this and that. I said, they put you
Speaker 3: talk about a full core press. I mean they brought
Speaker 3: the men on the court side down there. He had
Speaker 3: not the head coach, the old line coach looking him
Speaker 3: up and down, the president and the athletic director and
Speaker 3: Tom Izzol Come on.
Speaker 9: I mean, I mean, he can't sell the He canceled
Speaker 9: the Ohio State and Auburn because they did that, like
Speaker 9: like they knew what they were doing. Like, yeah, that's
Speaker 9: a big one. So I mean, you get those guys
Speaker 9: and uh even uh Luca Luca from Oregon State. He's
Speaker 9: the guy that was a coach, m guy who was in.
Speaker 7: Line to he started last year for Oregon.
Speaker 10: State, and uh, you know he'll be a guy that
Speaker 10: will put.
Speaker 7: Some reps in there.
Speaker 9: And then uh, Chris Phillips and guy have ambrocious the
Speaker 9: two interior guys that got hurt early in the season
Speaker 9: where they were kind of the guys and then sometimes
Speaker 9: I mean, like we don't want to be that guy.
Speaker 10: But sometimes when.
Speaker 7: A certain player leaves, you.
Speaker 10: Might just get better because that guy's not gonna be
Speaker 10: on the fucking field again, and we know who that is.
Speaker 2: You didn't have a question talking about the Yeah, I.
Speaker 9: Know, I mean, and you saw like that was trending
Speaker 9: away from that. But then with so many injuries to
Speaker 9: fill up some brocious then you had to move them.
Speaker 9: But I mean you saw Stanton Rameil, the freshman took
Speaker 9: over left tackle there. Yeah, so like the reps, the
Speaker 9: reps were going away, and then you had those two
Speaker 9: injuries and then you were pors to kind of like
Speaker 9: patch it together for the rest of the year. And
Speaker 9: some games that worked, like Iowa, some games that definitely
Speaker 9: did not work, I think not to.
Speaker 5: I think that that where you're staying to start. What
Speaker 5: we're talking about here is having offensive linemen and really
Speaker 5: just across the board guys that can win individual matchups.
Speaker 5: And when when we were when teams were able to
Speaker 5: isolate our offensive lineman on certain guys, those guys just
Speaker 5: couldn't win individual matchups. And we're getting more and more
Speaker 5: guys that are gonna be able to win those individual
Speaker 5: matchups up front, right, And you know straight, you're an
Speaker 5: old lime, You're old old lineman. If your tackles could win,
Speaker 5: if your tackles you can isolate your tackles, and that
Speaker 5: means your interior guys can combo will climb without half
Speaker 5: to help on tackle on on on edge guys, you're
Speaker 5: that much better interior. But if you got an interior
Speaker 5: liightnment that can't win individual battles, you really can't help. No, no,
Speaker 5: you're trying to help what you're trying to help with
Speaker 5: a tight end or a back. So now you're exposing
Speaker 5: another area. So you gotta be you gotta be firm
Speaker 5: up front and especially in the interior. And I do
Speaker 5: like where we're headed with these interior offensive lightnments.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I mean thinking more experience and size and athleticism.
Speaker 2: When you look at that that that.
Speaker 3: Box for the defense, right, you know, swerve and I'm
Speaker 3: gonna let you talk after this one because you've got
Speaker 3: a lot to say right now. But you know five
Speaker 3: six seven man box, right, you look the linebackers and
Speaker 3: defensive lineman.
Speaker 2: Always know that the linebackers make tackles, that's what they do.
Speaker 3: The defensive lineman they make tackles for losses if you
Speaker 3: can't block their ass. So you have to be able
Speaker 3: to focus on those four three, four five down linemen
Speaker 3: whatever is in front of you, and and move them
Speaker 3: against their will when you're in the run game, and
Speaker 3: obviously keep them, keep you g clean, quarterback clean so
Speaker 3: that they can you know, get to their first second
Speaker 3: and maybe sometimes third read and hit guys like Nick
Speaker 3: marsh is gonna be open the passing game a lot.
Speaker 2: Swerve. You've been patient.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm proud of you because we've got to
Speaker 3: talk about money backs right now.
Speaker 2: But go ahead.
Speaker 4: All I'm saying is if you look at the playoffs, right,
Speaker 4: we look at the playoff you look.
Speaker 2: At the Ohio State.
Speaker 1: Ohio State was able to pass the ball.
Speaker 4: You know, even when they big time receiver in that
Speaker 4: championship game didn't have a catch the whole second half.
Speaker 4: He had the biggest catch at the end to put
Speaker 4: the game away, all right. So what I'm saying is,
Speaker 4: and they also had a running game, So we get
Speaker 4: these offens alignment. We also got to look at the
Speaker 4: scheme that we gotta we got to put in so
Speaker 4: our guys can be able to execute and have success
Speaker 4: on the field. You understand what I'm saying. Do we
Speaker 4: have a big time receiver, Yes, he's proven that. You
Speaker 4: know what I mean, do we have a running back,
Speaker 4: but do we have another other receiver can companiment him.
Speaker 4: But then you got to ask what scheme we're gonna
Speaker 4: have because we got a quarterback. They gotta live on.
Speaker 4: You know, you may you know you can question anything
Speaker 4: any quarterback, you know what I mean? Like she look
Speaker 4: at beck Big didn't play the worst years. He just
Speaker 4: went and got four billion dollars.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, I think it's
Speaker 4: the scheme. I think we have the players, but we
Speaker 4: gotta put these guys in the best situation to be
Speaker 4: successful that we can have a successful offense.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think the biggest improvement in the off season
Speaker 9: is wide receiver from the transfer port a h But
Speaker 9: I mean last year you had Nick Mars, who was
Speaker 9: a true freshman. That was amazing, But then you didn't
Speaker 9: know what you're getting week to week game the game
Speaker 9: from anybody.
Speaker 10: Else in that unit. Where they added is that four.
Speaker 9: Guys or five guys in the transfer portal, they all
Speaker 9: have a lot of experience, a lot of catches, they
Speaker 9: know how to run routes, and they're faster guys too,
Speaker 9: which is what you saw at Oregon state where you know,
Speaker 9: they use those little guys, they would put line them
Speaker 9: up outside inside, you know, just to move those matchups
Speaker 9: like you're talking about. So I think that part of
Speaker 9: it's good. You got Bray and Collier. He'll come in
Speaker 9: as a true freshman. He's here now already, you know,
Speaker 9: so he's going to get that added strength that he
Speaker 9: needs to go there. But like that dude, like if
Speaker 9: you look at his numbers all time in the state
Speaker 9: of Ohio, his receptions, his yards, his touchdowns, the state
Speaker 9: championship yards and touchdowns he had, like their rank as
Speaker 9: some of the greatest that's ever been seen in Ohio.
Speaker 7: And that doesn't just happen, you know, by accident.
Speaker 9: Like that kid knows how to run route at a
Speaker 9: much further level than most freshmen. He's got the hands
Speaker 9: and all of that stuff.
Speaker 3: But you know now that you.
Speaker 9: Killed it in the portal and you have Nick Marsh
Speaker 9: back at wide receiver, now you don't get to force
Speaker 9: him and ask him to do things he's not ready
Speaker 9: to do. So now you can put him into package
Speaker 9: is that are utilize him the way that's best to
Speaker 9: use him as a freshman.
Speaker 3: Are we sure Nick Marsh's Beck because I thought that
Speaker 3: he was going to the school down the road according
Speaker 3: to some assholes out there. Anyway, I digress, but Collier
Speaker 3: really excited about having him his family, they've been on
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 2: Great kid, exciting family to look passionate about Missis State football.
Speaker 2: That's what you need to have here, guys. I want
Speaker 2: to just you know, talk a little.
Speaker 3: Bit about a legacy player by the name of Jace
Speaker 3: CLARIZI right, Okay, this is the guy who truly flip
Speaker 3: this commitment to Alabama and somehow in the ninth hour,
Speaker 3: you guys, tell me what the story was on this one.
Speaker 3: You talk about the running back that's got speed, the
Speaker 3: third down back and do it all, you know, to
Speaker 3: play in the slot.
Speaker 1: What happened?
Speaker 2: How would we get him back? Talk to us?
Speaker 10: Jonathan Smith?
Speaker 9: Yeah, he got involved with I mean that's the next
Speaker 9: step where I think he's kind of learning where out west.
Speaker 7: Know you had Oregon in USC, but.
Speaker 9: You didn't have a lot of dog recruiters out there,
Speaker 9: like it was pretty It's not like the Big ten
Speaker 9: in the Midwest where it just managers more at the
Speaker 9: SEC country like these guys, like the head coaches have
Speaker 9: to be present in the recruitment.
Speaker 10: You saw him play a.
Speaker 9: Major role in Jason, like you mentioned in Aiden, and
Speaker 9: now you're starting to see that he's understanding this year
Speaker 9: for twenty twenty six. Like he can't come in at
Speaker 9: the end. He's got to be there for those guys
Speaker 9: throughout the thing, because James Franklin's going to be there,
Speaker 9: Sharon Moore is going to be there. What's his name,
Speaker 9: Freeman at Notre Dame's going to be there, like like
Speaker 9: you you can't not match that, like so, so I
Speaker 9: think that was a big thing.
Speaker 3: And then Core, you gotta talk to him, okay, because
Speaker 3: you know, you know, I'm not there every day like
Speaker 3: you guys, are there any big move you get there?
Speaker 2: Mia swear.
Speaker 3: We are sitting in the game down here in IMG.
Speaker 3: We saw damn helicopter come in with James Franklin.
Speaker 2: Now I'm talking about James Franklin.
Speaker 3: Okay, playoff appearance, guys, So can we get us a
Speaker 3: sparking helicopter.
Speaker 2: I know we got the money. Let's do that. Jay,
Speaker 2: get Jonathan a helicopter and do that. Man, it changes everything,
Speaker 2: it does. I mean Mario christ Paul's flying helicopters in
Speaker 2: Chicago now.
Speaker 1: But straight we just saw J. L.
Speaker 4: Smith in the atl looked like he was in the hood.
Speaker 4: You saw that picture where you bought the truck.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's out of the character.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that big boy. I wish we had that picture
Speaker 4: to put it in. It was on Facebook like he was.
Speaker 4: It looked like a wrap of.
Speaker 1: Cover that.
Speaker 10: Yeah, like Shade talking about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah he slim shady and had his boyd what what
Speaker 3: what slim the eight mile whatever? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: twelve that was out of his character, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? It looked at good.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 9: Well that's the thing too, is I think those guys
Speaker 9: you're gonna see, uh, those guys get a little bit
Speaker 9: more involved where that's Curtis Daniel's former Michigan State player
Speaker 9: who has Patchwork Record Studios, which is the top studio
Speaker 9: in Atlanta, which people that foul hit rap and hip hop,
Speaker 9: like Atlanta's the mecca right now. And then Big Big Block,
Speaker 9: Big Block, Malik Spencer's dad is like the also that
Speaker 9: big dude where Rick Ross and all of those guys.
Speaker 9: So so like you know, they it wasn't by accident,
Speaker 9: and I think that that was.
Speaker 7: A huge trip.
Speaker 9: That's gonna matter. Like I know, Leggy released the video
Speaker 9: a couple of days ago. Uh that was edited, and
Speaker 9: I can promise you Curtis Daniel did that without even
Speaker 9: having to ask him, because that was stuff that you
Speaker 9: saw uh early on in mouse Sing when he was
Speaker 9: doing stuff there that you weren't seeing with Jonathan Smith yet.
Speaker 9: So I think, uh that was part of that meeting,
Speaker 9: is like, hey, we've gotta make this, you know, fun
Speaker 9: for the kids and like have those photos like you're
Speaker 9: talking about, and you know, put that video out that
Speaker 9: you know, it's got a song that matters to the
Speaker 9: people watching it and gets them hype to see it.
Speaker 9: Like like all that stuff matters. It's all about imaging
Speaker 9: of parents.
Speaker 3: Hey what you got? What do you know about that
Speaker 3: Atlanta experience that Georgia love.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what a few years ago, man, right
Speaker 5: when we were recruiting uh Malie Spencer. You know, we
Speaker 5: had a really good name in Atlanta Metro high school football.
Speaker 5: We had a good name. You know, we were we
Speaker 5: were you know, we were out there. And I'll tell
Speaker 5: anybody if you can get into Beaufort or Grayson or
Speaker 5: you know, some of these. You know, heck, if we
Speaker 5: just get Gwinnett County North Gette, there's enough. There's there's
Speaker 5: enough good football players in Gwinnett County that you know,
Speaker 5: we can we can do some things and and and sometimes. Man,
Speaker 5: when you get away from the Midwest, Michigan State's name
Speaker 5: is actually better and more well received when you get
Speaker 5: away from some of the negativity that we see from
Speaker 5: some of the media around here. We don't have to
Speaker 5: fight against that. And having patchwork in the middle of
Speaker 5: the city, now have you been there. It is right
Speaker 5: in the middle of midtown Atlanta, right in the middle
Speaker 5: of the city. It's that's my guy, Freddy Curtis Daniel's
Speaker 5: been there thirty years, so he ground from the ground up,
Speaker 5: built that and knows everybody you need to know in
Speaker 5: the city of Atlanta. And it was great to see
Speaker 5: Coach Smith and those guys down there, because that is
Speaker 5: a resource that we have to take advantage off. If
Speaker 5: any of our coaches, I hope that if they listen
Speaker 5: to the show, they watch the show. If any of
Speaker 5: our coaches are in Atlanta Metro and they don't pick
Speaker 5: up the phone to call Curtis, you fumble.
Speaker 9: And even if you go back to like Coach D
Speaker 9: with Rich Homi Kwan, like Coach D wasn't you know,
Speaker 9: Coach D's Coach D.
Speaker 7: But he embraced that because he knows that the kids
Speaker 7: to embrace that. And that's what it's all about.
Speaker 10: At this level.
Speaker 5: You know, we're recruiting fifteens, you know, fifteen and seventeen
Speaker 5: year olds. What I think at fifties, you know, it's cool,
Speaker 5: they're like, hey, old man, go to bed, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. So we gotta we gotta state. We
Speaker 5: gotta remember the kids were trying to the people were
Speaker 5: trying to our audience, our target audience, you know, our
Speaker 5: fifteen to seventeen year olds.
Speaker 2: So let me that.
Speaker 9: Then you three played there like, uh, a college football
Speaker 9: locker room at Michigan State isn't gonna get compared to
Speaker 9: a church service all the time.
Speaker 10: And you know there's some.
Speaker 7: There's some stuff that happens, and there's some dogs down there.
Speaker 4: You know, if we can get if we can get
Speaker 4: Eminem to come on the sideline like Colorado had everybody from.
Speaker 2: Little Wayne, and.
Speaker 4: We can get you know, Eminem and who else in
Speaker 4: the middle was a trick trick and what's the one out.
Speaker 2: Of Flint uh who Dayton Family.
Speaker 1: Percolator? I hate that time for the oh we can
Speaker 1: get sell them beside if it's you up hip.
Speaker 5: Hop, you know, you know it has no what Here's
Speaker 5: the thing, though, it has to be authentic, Like you
Speaker 5: can't do it for the sake of doing it and
Speaker 5: have it and have it be whack. If we're not
Speaker 5: gonna if it's not gonna be dope and it's not
Speaker 5: gonna like be authentic. Kids can see through that, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, They can see through the phoniness.
Speaker 5: So we gotta be true to what we are.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: Here's the thing, y'all know this man, Everybody not gonna
Speaker 5: want to be a spartan dog. It's not for everybody.
Speaker 5: But what we can do is invite the right people
Speaker 5: to be spartan dogs. And I think we're getting good
Speaker 5: at I think this stab is getting good at figuring
Speaker 5: out what fits, you know, what fits what they're trying
Speaker 5: to do and what fits this place?
Speaker 1: What you think is in jail John Smith? J Smith
Speaker 1: when he turned on his car, what do you think is.
Speaker 7: Is?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what what do you think on this playlist?
Speaker 2: You know, man.
Speaker 5: You know what he was, he was a quarterback man.
Speaker 5: He was probably listening to you know, some John Tash
Speaker 5: or something like that. Man, some real, some real thoughtful
Speaker 5: you know he probably know he might he might even
Speaker 5: listen to an audio book on like centering Yourself or
Speaker 5: something like that. Seems real, like a real, carefully measured guy.
Speaker 5: So I don't know that he's listening to anything crazy.
Speaker 7: Right, And and Ocho stands up for him, and they
Speaker 7: chance his name is mentioned.
Speaker 2: So I'm not saying I'm not saying he's not.
Speaker 5: I'm saying I think I think you know his his
Speaker 5: his uh, you know his his playlist would have a
Speaker 5: lot more you know, things that that are kind of
Speaker 5: chilled than what you would think. You know, probably you
Speaker 5: know some Kenny g and you know something like that
Speaker 5: Michael Michael Ball.
Speaker 6: You know what.
Speaker 1: You'll think was on mail Up?
Speaker 3: What was on Male.
Speaker 1: The Point Little Point player?
Speaker 7: Wrong?
Speaker 2: Hey yeah, ain't black man. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the quarterback position. And this is something
Speaker 3: everybody wants to talk about. We can't have a recruiting
Speaker 3: show not talking about the quarterback. Leohannon, this guy, you know,
Speaker 3: they came in here, uh six three fifteen Pounder had
Speaker 3: an eight and six record, But he's from Survive.
Speaker 2: You know, they're talking about Cally Baby. That's a Trinity.
Speaker 7: League, Trinity.
Speaker 10: League, cap league in America.
Speaker 2: Good program, good program.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, he had the injury after a few games
Speaker 9: this year, but he got off to a really good start.
Speaker 9: He's healthy now, he's training. He's an early and rollie.
Speaker 9: So so yeah, he'll obviously this year he's it's gonna
Speaker 9: be about development and red shirt and stuff. But like
Speaker 9: if if you can play in that league, you can play.
Speaker 9: And then if you look at his junior season there,
Speaker 9: like they're offensive line, it was trash like like so
Speaker 9: I he was on ESPN a couple of games where
Speaker 9: he's running for his life just making place. It kind
Speaker 9: of reminds me of like the kid at Vanderbilt when
Speaker 9: he played was at Alabama, where like he's running for
Speaker 9: his life, but every single time he's making that play
Speaker 9: and getting the ball out, it's like, uh so he's
Speaker 9: got a lot of that where he you know, like
Speaker 9: can adapt and get the ball out quickly and lots
Speaker 9: of different arm angles getting it out, and so yeah,
Speaker 9: definitely someone to to you know, see what he looks
Speaker 9: like this spring coming off of the injury. But but
Speaker 9: everything we've heard is he's back one hundred percent and
Speaker 9: going through uh workouts as as if it's no injury.
Speaker 5: So okay, you know, but I'll tell you just just
Speaker 5: you know. Tangentially related related to that is, is you
Speaker 5: notice something here you said Survive very good high school
Speaker 5: program or Tory Late Saint Mary's very good high school program,
Speaker 5: East Lansing High School, very good high school program.
Speaker 2: You see the trend here.
Speaker 5: You know, we're starting to get kids that are coming
Speaker 5: from winning cultures, that are coming from being coached hard,
Speaker 5: They're coming from high expectations. They're coming so there's gonna
Speaker 5: be a there's always that transition from high school to college.
Speaker 5: But if you've come from a program where winning is expected,
Speaker 5: w being where you're supposed to be, going to class,
Speaker 5: you know all the right things, that transition isn't as
Speaker 5: difficult if you came from somewhere where they just threw
Speaker 5: the balls out and you played and you know, and
Speaker 5: then football season was over and young with your buddies.
Speaker 5: They're they're coming from places where it matters, and you know,
Speaker 5: getting on campus here, it's gonna again, it's gonna be
Speaker 5: that that that adjustment period, but it's not gonna be
Speaker 5: like you know, for guys like me that came in
Speaker 5: and you know, college football felt like I was, Yeah,
Speaker 5: so we're recruiting kids that they're coming from really good
Speaker 5: high school football programs, and I think that's a that's
Speaker 5: kind of going to give us.
Speaker 2: A leg up. Yeah.
Speaker 9: I mean if you look at just go through the list.
Speaker 9: Derek Simmons at Frank and Mooth, they played, uh state
Speaker 9: semi finals, right, maybe state championship even so we'll.
Speaker 3: Go with.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so like we'll go with guys that made semi
Speaker 9: finals state championships are won it. Frank and Mooth, Derek
Speaker 9: Simmons did that. Aiden West and Maryland won the state championship.
Speaker 9: Jays Clarizio made the the the semi finals, right move?
Speaker 7: Or did they go to state my finals?
Speaker 9: Braylen Collier, Uh state championship They lost last second on
Speaker 9: that one. They kind of got hosed Dakota with Malone
Speaker 9: and justin Bell semifinals, uh Handing had the injury.
Speaker 10: Uh let's see who we got.
Speaker 9: And then the all of the five Orchard Lake Saint
Speaker 9: Mary's kids won the Division two state championship. So so
Speaker 9: I mean that's a lot a lot of winning. And
Speaker 9: then Drew Nichols, he's the most under ranked player in
Speaker 9: my opinion in the class. I think he's only sixteen
Speaker 9: right now or he just turned seventeen, you know, so
Speaker 9: he's young for an offensive lineman at Mariatta Myriada Valley
Speaker 9: in California, which is another good program. I think he's
Speaker 9: gonna be the guy that far outweighs what we have
Speaker 9: him ranked. I think, like I don't call out a
Speaker 9: lot of the rankings, but like that's the guy that
Speaker 9: I've been saying should have been up quite a bit
Speaker 9: when you look at a the tape he has and
Speaker 9: to the fact that he's doing a year younger than
Speaker 9: what his grade is for most guys. So I mean
Speaker 9: that matters, like because you look at him, he's got
Speaker 9: a baby face, and so there's a lot a lot
Speaker 9: of growth that's gonna happen with that kid. Still still
Speaker 9: where I mean, he's already huge, Like what is he
Speaker 9: six four sixty five almost like three hundred pounds close
Speaker 9: to it to eighty five to ninety So.
Speaker 3: Man, look, man, this is this is this is great
Speaker 3: information and insight as to what's going on in the
Speaker 3: recruiting world behind the scenes, not only when the high
Speaker 3: school world.
Speaker 2: I mean we talked about the guys who just signed yesterday,
Speaker 2: those four players, one from Groves, three from.
Speaker 3: Orchard Lake, Saint Mary's, and then all the other high
Speaker 3: school players, but also the transfer portal and all the
Speaker 3: different acquisitions made there.
Speaker 2: Guys. You know, when you look at what's going on in.
Speaker 3: College football athletics as a whole, I don't know, did
Speaker 3: you guys see all the I mean, it's it seems
Speaker 3: like it's literally changing every day.
Speaker 2: You know, all of us see it. And this is
Speaker 2: far we we follow it every day.
Speaker 3: I mean we're getting updates, you know, sometimes three four
Speaker 3: updates a day, new changes.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys have.
Speaker 3: Heard about this new I mean, this is this is
Speaker 3: a bill here, this is something we were talking about
Speaker 3: running this It feels like a year ago now, but
Speaker 3: it was like and we're talking about in Georgia, they're
Speaker 3: introducing a bill that allows for all nil funds that
Speaker 3: are paid to athletes to have state taxes nullified. So
Speaker 3: smart bill, I mean, think about the creativity like that.
Speaker 3: That's not even really where I was going with it
Speaker 3: because we're talking about that seems like last year's new Seriously,
Speaker 3: But I think what do you got to say about that, Corey?
Speaker 3: Like you know, they're going to have a state that
Speaker 3: says anybody that ever sees nil here doesn't have to
Speaker 3: pay taxes.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's kind of a crazy thing because I think
Speaker 9: you're seeing the opposite of that with the college thing.
Speaker 9: Is there, Wait, you got to pay taxes on this
Speaker 9: money that you're giving these guys and stuff like that.
Speaker 9: Sounds like that Bards, But I mean that's the same thing.
Speaker 9: Like you said, I was always changing where now they
Speaker 9: have like something where they're talking about how we've been
Speaker 9: talking about, like I feel like how many times I've
Speaker 9: been on the show that we've talked about where you
Speaker 9: need like that CEO commissioner that oversees everything and enforce
Speaker 9: his rules like they Ross Dellinger just did a thing
Speaker 9: today where he announced that they that's what they're talking
Speaker 9: about doing now and they're finding ways to do that
Speaker 9: and like where they'll put the profit sharing throughout the
Speaker 9: entire power for the pay guys and get rid of
Speaker 9: a lot of the the nil stuff that doesn't have
Speaker 9: anything behind it. You know, like you're not in a
Speaker 9: commercial or motivating it, you know. So that's the stuff
Speaker 9: that we've been talking about on the show, like it's
Speaker 9: that to Congress, and they're kind of coming up with
Speaker 9: that way, which I think that's where it's always had
Speaker 9: to go. Is that whoever that guy is, it's got
Speaker 9: to be set up where there's that guy that runs
Speaker 9: it and there's penalty for for breaking the rules like
Speaker 9: there are in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Think I'm gonna ask you this because I mean you
Speaker 3: you you know the insights. I mean, you played the game.
Speaker 3: You understand. How are they going to police because they're
Speaker 3: talking about tampering police, How are you gonna police that?
Speaker 3: Knowing how the tampering world really works, how are you
Speaker 3: gonna police that?
Speaker 5: I don't I don't know that you can because we're
Speaker 5: talking about you know, human communication. I mean this this
Speaker 5: these things people. Some of this stuff has been happening
Speaker 5: since we played it, just the mechanism might be a
Speaker 5: little bit differently. For example, we wanted to transfer back
Speaker 5: in the day, you talk to your high school coach
Speaker 5: that he called the school and say hey, I got
Speaker 5: a guy. He still might be interested. So it was
Speaker 5: stuff happening behind the scenes even back then. So to
Speaker 5: say that you're gonna be able to get teams not
Speaker 5: to not to try. Good luck with that. I think
Speaker 5: that the fix is is this, I want kids to
Speaker 5: still be able to transfer. I think one thing we
Speaker 5: had to do. We got to separate the portal from
Speaker 5: NIL because I think there are two two separate and
Speaker 5: two separate entities that oftentimes get kind of bootstrapped together
Speaker 5: in clouds of the clouds of you.
Speaker 2: So let's talk about the portal first. I think I
Speaker 2: think you should be able to transfer.
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't like that. You know, coaches can
Speaker 5: tell you what you do. You don't want me to
Speaker 5: play for you, but you don't want me to leave,
Speaker 5: sort of.
Speaker 2: I don't like that. But what I do, what I
Speaker 2: would like to see is this.
Speaker 5: If you're a freshman and you you portal before the
Speaker 5: end of your freshman academic year, you lose that year.
Speaker 5: I'm tired of seeing freshmen portal. You haven't even been
Speaker 5: there long enough. Number two, if you're if if even
Speaker 5: if let's say let's say you stay and you're a
Speaker 5: freshman or a sophomore, I got a real quick fix
Speaker 5: for you.
Speaker 2: Real quick fix.
Speaker 5: If you're transferred as a freshman, you have immediate eligibility,
Speaker 5: but you're a junior when you get there.
Speaker 2: And here's why I want. I want those schools to
Speaker 2: have to consider if this kid's worth it or not?
Speaker 2: Whoa a junior? Yeah? You're just no, No, you played
Speaker 2: your and you try for next year. You're gonna be
Speaker 2: a junior. You're gonna lose a year.
Speaker 3: Hm in a worldlope, Right, they're they're getting they're trying
Speaker 3: to give guys not only right now, it's five years
Speaker 3: and they and it may get to unlimited eligibility because
Speaker 3: you know, how do you how do you police that?
Speaker 3: There's a lot of things unpacked when you talk about eligibility.
Speaker 3: And you know when you look at that Corey, I'll
Speaker 3: ask you this. You know you have guys like, yeah,
Speaker 3: Jeremiah Smith and that's getting recruited by everybody.
Speaker 2: Right, he just had he came out of what school?
Speaker 7: Was it?
Speaker 1: Swear?
Speaker 2: Was the Columbus.
Speaker 3: Shaman I this other c I'm sorry, so Sharman I
Speaker 3: down there in Floyda. You know now, my you know
Speaker 3: the word is that he can get four and a
Speaker 3: half million?
Speaker 5: Now, is that?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 2: Tampering. I mean it somehow you don't even have to
Speaker 2: call the kid.
Speaker 3: If you have you know somebody in the media that
Speaker 3: can broadcast that that number and you can back channel.
Speaker 3: Obviously everybody's got a trainer or a coach and all
Speaker 3: these different things that can get to one another. How
Speaker 3: like police in that is is an absolute monster coreat
Speaker 3: So you know what, what's the remedy to that? You know?
Speaker 2: To me, I think maybe two transfer portal windows are
Speaker 2: too much.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think there should be one transfer portal.
Speaker 9: You know there or like I say, like if say
Speaker 9: you entered in December or whatever that window is, even
Speaker 9: if you come back, you're not eligible to come.
Speaker 7: Go to the spring portal windows, like there's no reason.
Speaker 10: You go twice, Like there's just no reason. Like at
Speaker 10: some point you got to.
Speaker 7: Live with your decision and figure it out.
Speaker 9: Like so I think, like whether it's one window, which
Speaker 9: I would like, or two windows but you can only
Speaker 9: go one calendar year once would be nice.
Speaker 7: And then I mean as far as policing.
Speaker 9: It, like obviously it's never going to be perfect, like
Speaker 9: you look at the NBA is not perfect. How Jimmy
Speaker 9: Butler have a one hundred twenty one million dollar deal
Speaker 9: five minutes after he was traded. But he wasn't even
Speaker 9: officially traded to Golden State last night. So I mean,
Speaker 9: it's never gonna be perfect. But a good way to
Speaker 9: make it perfect is when you catch them. Because everybody
Speaker 9: knows what the.
Speaker 10: Other school is doing, they just know that there's no
Speaker 10: penalty for it.
Speaker 9: So go hammer the dude, Go hammer that program for cheating.
Speaker 9: And guess what, when they get lose ten scholarships, maybe
Speaker 9: they're gonna think about back channel at the next time.
Speaker 9: Where yes, you're not gonna catch everything, but just like
Speaker 9: a football game, you're not gonna catch every hole that happens.
Speaker 9: But if you catch enough of this stuff, then you
Speaker 9: know it's gonna it's gonna get better.
Speaker 5: Well, I think there's other piece of this too in
Speaker 5: it that folks you know, and then I get it.
Speaker 5: It's easy to compare to it like the pro models
Speaker 5: to college and whatnot. What is the one thing we
Speaker 5: have to consider is that these are all one league
Speaker 5: with the interest of that one league at heart. When
Speaker 5: they're when they're trying to you know, the Cowboys or
Speaker 5: NFL whatever, there how many there's what five power five
Speaker 5: power four conferences with compeding interest. So Michigan's like, it
Speaker 5: doesn't hurt. It doesn't help the Big ten per se
Speaker 5: to become really strict on tampering, to be really strict
Speaker 5: on nil. It doesn't help unless everybody else. Right, So,
Speaker 5: so the issue isn't necessarily the individuals. It's the it's
Speaker 5: who's who's in charge and making sure that we're all
Speaker 5: in the same playing field. I don't want to see
Speaker 5: Michigan State take the high role to become the pillar
Speaker 5: and everybody else, No, don't do that. You're you're working
Speaker 5: against yourself. So what we need is is everybody to
Speaker 5: play on the same playing field. Now that's that's kind
Speaker 5: of that's kind of you know, pie in the sky
Speaker 5: to say you can't expect Ohio State University with these,
Speaker 5: you know, two hundred million dollar budgets to certainly, you know,
Speaker 5: beside they want to become accron But the point is
Speaker 5: they should have the same rules.
Speaker 2: The money is.
Speaker 5: If you can't, if you can't spend the money the same,
Speaker 5: I have the same access. Who cares how much you have?
Speaker 3: So right, there's the thing though, this this is what
Speaker 3: this is the caveat that everybody I think is missing,
Speaker 3: especially for the lower tier schools. Schools is trying to
Speaker 3: play it by the rules and play it safe and
Speaker 3: all that, where there's other schools, you know, there's a
Speaker 3: line in the sand, and they just dive over that
Speaker 3: fucking line, right.
Speaker 2: They don't care, They don't.
Speaker 3: You know why they don't care, guys, It's because there's
Speaker 3: a thing called a TV contract for eight billion dollars.
Speaker 2: Eight billion fucking dollars, guys.
Speaker 3: Okay, So they're not going to take certain schools off
Speaker 3: of that contract and then have to answer to all
Speaker 3: those other people that are out there that they that
Speaker 3: have contributed to that eight eight billion dollars. Okay, in
Speaker 3: the big ten, I know, we have a big problem.
Speaker 3: Everybody's pissed off. What's going on with those assholes with
Speaker 3: you know, I've seen some questions about Connor stallions cited
Speaker 3: from Michigan being on our sideline and the cheating that
Speaker 3: was going on down the road and the fucking guys
Speaker 3: they literally were cheating. But you know what, talking to
Speaker 3: Ryan Day personally, I talked to Ryan Day personally. He said,
Speaker 3: they ain't doing shit to those guys. I don't know
Speaker 3: why everybody's making a big stink of it. This is
Speaker 3: you know, six months ago he.
Speaker 7: Said that to me.
Speaker 2: I heard it. I'm not bullshitting you. Why is he
Speaker 2: saying that, guys?
Speaker 3: Because there's eight billion reasons they're not going to bring
Speaker 3: the hammer two institutions.
Speaker 1: Like that, Well, why are we?
Speaker 3: Why are we pussy footing around with these rules until
Speaker 3: let me tell you something, until you allow the actual labor,
Speaker 3: the players to negotiate with the front office types. None
Speaker 3: of this shit matters. So we should just go ahead
Speaker 3: and we can argue and point the finger in n
Speaker 3: I l transfer port all day. They needed I think
Speaker 3: they need to eliminate. They need to make some changes,
Speaker 3: but everybody needs to come up there and play a
Speaker 3: transparent game together and do it like the pros.
Speaker 1: Do it right now.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I mean as much as like we can.
Speaker 9: We could come up with a million things the bitch
Speaker 9: about with the NIL ear and how it is, But
Speaker 9: look at.
Speaker 7: The Big ten. You could say they've passed the SEC
Speaker 7: because of it.
Speaker 10: And why is that?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 9: Because now everybody is doing what the SEC did for
Speaker 9: all those years. But like that that Dodge charger that.
Speaker 7: Nick Saban was given, everybody's not enough anymore.
Speaker 5: Like.
Speaker 9: So, I mean, so it leveled the field where yes,
Speaker 9: it's not a perfect thing, but Michigan State, guess what,
Speaker 9: they can go get a Connor more out of the
Speaker 9: transfer port, or they can hold on to a Nick
Speaker 9: marsh uh, you know, or in the high school stuff,
Speaker 9: and you could go through that at the Big Ten,
Speaker 9: the Big twelve uh, and the SEC. It's like everybody's
Speaker 9: doing it now where before, yes, like you had teams
Speaker 9: up here like Ohio State and maybe Penn State uh
Speaker 9: doing what they were doing down in the SEC before
Speaker 9: and Io was a thing. But for the most part,
Speaker 9: we the Conference wasn't doing that, like like to the
Speaker 9: level that the SEC was. And now that everybody's able
Speaker 9: to do that, you're seeing way more parody and you're
Speaker 9: starting to see kids understand that opportunity instead of logo
Speaker 9: chasing is important. Like that's not Alabama still getting five
Speaker 9: star guys, but they don't have ten five star guys
Speaker 9: in their depth chart, you know, in their second and
Speaker 9: third string like they used to. Now those guys are
Speaker 9: going to other schools and getting a starting role and money,
Speaker 9: and that's.
Speaker 3: Something we talked about Swerve, Like, you know, there's some schools.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of schools, even lower tier group of
Speaker 3: five schools. I know, it's like Power four schools in
Speaker 3: that group of five as second tier, the MAC and
Speaker 3: AAC and whatever they they're those other names, those other
Speaker 3: conferences that are selling reps. You know, look, you want
Speaker 3: to go to Michigan State and get buried on the
Speaker 3: depth chart or do you want to come over here
Speaker 3: and we'll give you a bunch of you know, reps
Speaker 3: and you're gonna get a lot of film and then
Speaker 3: hell taxes to come get you when you get to
Speaker 3: be a junior that's being sold right now. You know
Speaker 3: that's that's real because you know, guys that are you know,
Speaker 3: I'm happy to be at a Michigan State or you know,
Speaker 3: Illinois or Purdue, whatever the hell that is. You know,
Speaker 3: if you if you really aren't going to crack that
Speaker 3: depth chart, if you're not good enough to get there
Speaker 3: for three years and ship, you might as well go
Speaker 3: to a lord tier school in order to keep playing,
Speaker 3: because that's really where your evaluation comes from and actually
Speaker 3: getting on the field.
Speaker 9: And the other are the guys getting paid in the
Speaker 9: transfer portal because they have production. Like people aren't going
Speaker 9: and say, you know this guy that went to Alabama
Speaker 9: and sat for two years as a five star, like
Speaker 9: he hadn't done anything, so he's not getting that money.
Speaker 9: Where you look at like Michigan State, Josh he and
Speaker 9: Texas State a really good small program, like like they're
Speaker 9: they're absolutely beaters, cool to power for teams, like like
Speaker 9: they get some absolute dudes there for whatever reason, whether
Speaker 9: it's academics, maybe they they were smaller and they physically
Speaker 9: got better. And that's a school that develops kids. So
Speaker 9: Texas State, Montana State kind of more like they played
Speaker 9: for the national championships. The only game they lost was
Speaker 9: the North Dakota State in the National championship.
Speaker 10: Uh, let's see who else we got here?
Speaker 7: Like wake Forest, b y U Army.
Speaker 3: You know, Pillage the people, pillaged, the fill out of
Speaker 3: force whatever you've seen that this year, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? And had a whole run, hit it and swerve.
Speaker 3: I know you'd like to hear this. One of the
Speaker 3: greatest running backs all nine can walk in the third
Speaker 3: came out of Wake Forest, a virtually unknown commodity.
Speaker 2: We played against him in the pens rifle Is that right?
Speaker 2: Big move? Yeah? You know and I heard their culch.
Speaker 5: He since has left, but I heard him speaking a
Speaker 5: couple of years ago and he talked about Wake Force
Speaker 5: and how good they had to be in their evaluation
Speaker 5: because he said they very rarely got walk ons because
Speaker 5: the tuition was seventy grand a year, so their scholarships
Speaker 5: were really really valuable in his mind, and they had
Speaker 5: to be great in their evaluation. And it showed because
Speaker 5: they were getting pros and you know, guys are going
Speaker 5: in there, you know, going away Forest and then going
Speaker 5: to the league. So it doesn't surprise me that that
Speaker 5: we were going there and find some good football players
Speaker 5: because they were great in their evaluation.
Speaker 10: Same with the Indiana running back this year.
Speaker 7: He was a Wake Course kid too, so they started
Speaker 7: doing it.
Speaker 2: People course is like a Northwestern They don't know, people
Speaker 2: don't you know, that's not a common you know.
Speaker 3: Now, let's thing that's a tough school to get into. Anytime,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, K nine, he loved anime. Anytime
Speaker 3: you see anime, you know they got an intelligence.
Speaker 7: Bro.
Speaker 2: You know, Swerve, you don't you don't like anime, but
Speaker 2: you got a different kind of intelligence.
Speaker 5: The only the only anime work, swore said the only anime.
Speaker 5: He like his team, the Turner, the Cake and May.
Speaker 3: The smart. But he always gonna try to act like
Speaker 3: he the double stept. But even one of the smartest
Speaker 3: guys I haven't met my man, don't look a straight
Speaker 3: I live in the South.
Speaker 2: Don't let them. Don't let them country slow dudes for you.
Speaker 2: Don't let him fool you.
Speaker 1: Man.
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Speaker 2: They know they spotted you. They spotted you down there
Speaker 2: at the creek.
Speaker 5: They know all.
Speaker 2: Don't let him fool you.
Speaker 1: I are just here for a good time.
Speaker 2: So the NFL. I mean, it's you know, it's uh
Speaker 2: jay Z, It's you. That's about it.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 2: Listen, this is this has been great man. You know
Speaker 2: we can talk for three four five hours. I know that.
Speaker 2: I know a big movie. You used to doing that.
Speaker 2: You know, listen, I'm running a long battery.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: We we I'm in the car. We we we we
Speaker 2: we appreciate what you.
Speaker 1: We want to say.
Speaker 2: We're gonna put leave.
Speaker 5: Some meat on the phone, some trail on turn But hey,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna pull up on y'all this weekend.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pull up. You better pull up.
Speaker 3: More time for the people, so we know what's up.
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Speaker 3: We're gonna be live Saturday February. This is a couple
Speaker 3: of days from now seven pm, you know, until don't
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Speaker 5: Uh, don't do it, man, And before I hop off,
Speaker 5: y'all show man, thanks for having me on here. Man,
Speaker 5: it's cool talking to two legendary Spartan dogs. All big
Speaker 5: ten swerve. You know you already know how you put
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Speaker 5: hopping on here. But Trevor hit me up in the
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Speaker 1: Know I saw them.
Speaker 3: Telling my city. Big move, says he Low. Hey, man,
Speaker 3: we appreciate you guys coming on man as always, guys,
Speaker 3: swear gott to find the comments before we get out
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Speaker 2: I know you want something.
Speaker 1: Hey listen, great show, a lot of knowledge. We always
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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not looking forward to the twenty seven degrees, but
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Speaker 3: Big on you.
Speaker 1: No, no matter of fact. Corey.
Speaker 5: Let me borrow your cat when I leave, you know,
Speaker 5: and y'all be cool. Ma, I'm gonna hop off man,
Speaker 5: y'all be cool. Thanks for having me on there, all
Speaker 5: right there for a minute.
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