WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.519 --> 00:00:13.560 Welcome to the cultop cryptis Strange encounters of frogs and lizards, 2 00:00:13.960 --> 00:00:15.960 dumb my nick children, DoD. 3 00:00:15.880 --> 00:00:17.719 Man, Bigfoot, Mockman. 4 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:22.559 And all their victims. Murray, pictures captured by shot witness, 5 00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:26.719 ufloes breaking laws of physics, Pictures. 6 00:00:26.160 --> 00:00:28.879 Of aliens carving the high rogue lyphics. 7 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:31.000 This is the bizarre world that. 8 00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:31.879 We live in. 9 00:00:32.399 --> 00:00:34.560 So sit back, relax, laugh. 10 00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:40.200 And listen because we're here to talk about some cryptics. 11 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:47.280 This is Tom Thompson Casinos the Raptilian from Strange Group Podcast, 12 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:51.640 and we're here I called the Conspiracy to talk about 13 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:56.200 some bizarre and strange things. So strap in for this 14 00:00:56.399 --> 00:00:58.000 mild and hilarious ride. 15 00:00:58.960 --> 00:00:59.759 Now to the show. 16 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:04.840 Everybody, the curtains are open, we're checking tickets. 17 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:09.519 At the door. It's about to get strange. 18 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:19.840 Everybody that's a bird. 19 00:01:20.040 --> 00:01:24.319 Captains really can't expand your mind, producing a kind of 20 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:27.719 religious exian just exian. Awesome. 21 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:30.879 What is going on everybody out there? What is going 22 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:31.920 on all the hose heads? 23 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:35.640 Uh? Welcome to Strange Brew Podcast. I'm one of your hosts, 24 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:38.599 Tom kat aka Tom Thompson the Raptilian. 25 00:01:39.079 --> 00:01:39.319 Uh. 26 00:01:39.319 --> 00:01:41.599 And who else do I have as my co host? 27 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:45.719 The trippiest reverend kid. You man. 28 00:01:46.480 --> 00:01:48.040 Yeah, I guess I should have I am dressing a 29 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:49.879 hippie again, so I should have been like. 30 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:53.159 What's going on, long hair, what's going on? 31 00:01:53.400 --> 00:01:54.040 Near everybuddy? 32 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:58.439 And we welcome Shane from Inquiries of Reality. We've worked 33 00:01:58.439 --> 00:02:01.799 together a little bit before, but you know, we I've 34 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:03.879 been on your show, but we always talked about having 35 00:02:03.879 --> 00:02:07.079 you on Strange your podcast and uh, and we always 36 00:02:07.079 --> 00:02:09.400 discussed this mushroom episode and how we should definitely do 37 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:11.199 something based on psychedelics. 38 00:02:11.520 --> 00:02:15.479 And welcome Shane. Thanks for having me. Bro looking forward 39 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:15.680 to it. 40 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:19.280 I know we're I'm stoked for this, so obviously everybody 41 00:02:19.280 --> 00:02:22.120 out there, we were talking about mushrooms, magic mushrooms, the 42 00:02:22.159 --> 00:02:25.719 history of it, the idea of whatever it is, and 43 00:02:26.159 --> 00:02:29.520 just like the overall having a whole discussion about you know, 44 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:33.560 the fun guy that makes everyone a fun guy. 45 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:35.680 Definitely makes me a fun guy. 46 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:39.800 I'm a big fan of mushrooms. I've recently become more 47 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:43.520 of a mushroom head, and you know, I want to 48 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:47.520 know about your guys experience before we get into you know, 49 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:50.360 all the nitty gritty details of where it came from 50 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:53.960 and the understanding of this fungus as a whole, uh 51 00:02:54.039 --> 00:02:59.120 Psilocybin cubensis. But I want to know you know, Shane, 52 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:00.919 you're a you're a new guest, and we have talks 53 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:03.960 to obviously do some stuff together. We have ideas coming 54 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:06.199 down the pipeline is to create like a little show 55 00:03:06.240 --> 00:03:08.080 for YouTube. So that's why you always go subscribe to 56 00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:12.400 the YouTube. But let me hear your what got you 57 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:14.159 into mushrooms? So when was the first time you heard 58 00:03:14.199 --> 00:03:15.400 of magic mushrooms? 59 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:19.240 Like, Well, this is a very long story, but I'll 60 00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:20.919 try to give you the short end version of it 61 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:25.000 for now. But essentially I was like just kind of 62 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:27.240 big into like psychedelics in general. Like I was just 63 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:30.879 found like a fascination with like psychedelic art being a teenager. Yeah, 64 00:03:31.759 --> 00:03:33.319 just I don't know that whole like weird side of 65 00:03:33.319 --> 00:03:35.360 things and the whole possibility of there being like another 66 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:38.639 world that like lays beyond our world. So I mean 67 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:40.400 I did like little stuff here and there in high school, 68 00:03:40.400 --> 00:03:42.599 but I didn't really get into it heavy until like 69 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:45.919 after high school and stuff. But essentially, basically part of 70 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:48.479 the story is I started off as an alcoholic and 71 00:03:48.599 --> 00:03:50.960 I ended up using them to get off of alcohol 72 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:55.199 starting with LSD and then expanding into mushrooms itself ended 73 00:03:55.280 --> 00:03:59.680 up becoming a semi mycologist, growing my own stuff and 74 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:01.919 it was just like an expanse from there. 75 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:04.400 But you know, I would like to talk to you 76 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:08.840 about eventually, even on another show, of how specifically you 77 00:04:08.919 --> 00:04:11.159 grew mushrooms and you were like techniques and stuff like that, 78 00:04:11.199 --> 00:04:12.639 because there's different ways you can get like. 79 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:14.759 Half started or whatever. 80 00:04:15.159 --> 00:04:17.319 But I would be interested in doing that because I 81 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:19.600 get all mine off of a site that I trusted 82 00:04:19.639 --> 00:04:20.319 for a long time. 83 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:22.480 Right, But uh, you know, and and. 84 00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:24.959 For the fans, I know you're talking about you're an 85 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:26.079 alcohol you were an alcoholic. 86 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:28.720 I'm drinking a gin and time a really strong one. 87 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:31.920 I mean I'm good now, like honestly, but I mean, 88 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:34.519 even how bad when you're saying you're alcoholic? How bad 89 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:36.680 was it? I don't need you to get any nitty 90 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:39.519 gritty details of like, but like we're like just like 91 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:43.160 full blown like couldn't not drink every day kind of thing? 92 00:04:43.759 --> 00:04:43.959 Was it? 93 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:45.519 Just like I used to drink at work and the 94 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:47.279 end of it was I put myself in the hospital 95 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:47.600 from it. 96 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:50.040 So that's crazy using any kind of an idea. 97 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:53.439 Yeah No, that's yeah fucking and I've always tried to 98 00:04:53.519 --> 00:04:56.680 I've kept it at Bay, you know, the fans and 99 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:59.040 stuff know that, Like I almost died from Fentonoyl and 100 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:00.920 she like that, which is crazy not knowing that I 101 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:03.560 took it thinking it was coke and stuff like that, 102 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:05.480 and it changed my life because it wakes you up 103 00:05:05.480 --> 00:05:07.519 to be like what the fuck. I've always kept out 104 00:05:07.519 --> 00:05:11.720 call babe, but there has been definitely dangerous times. 105 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:13.720 I've told Anton about some of it. It's like it's 106 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:16.240 been where I've you know, a little too much. 107 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:19.360 Where as a teenager dude, it's a mental thing for me, 108 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:21.680 at least, it was a matter of, like obviously anybody 109 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:23.800 it's doing these type of podcasts and researching things, Like 110 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:25.920 your brain works a little bit differently than most people, 111 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:27.800 so it's a matter of like trying to fit in, 112 00:05:27.839 --> 00:05:29.639 you know, and like kind of dilute my brain out 113 00:05:29.639 --> 00:05:31.439 to kind of be like everybody else. So I was 114 00:05:31.439 --> 00:05:32.839 like drinking for a hot minute, and then I got 115 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:34.240 to a point where it was just like all right, bro, 116 00:05:34.360 --> 00:05:35.680 just embrace your fucking weirdness. 117 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:37.240 And then that yeah, yeah. 118 00:05:37.240 --> 00:05:39.879 It's likechidelics got into the expanding your mind. Good drugs 119 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:41.519 as I like to call them, you know, how. 120 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:46.000 To per said, because lately, Mike, I've told Aunt I 121 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:48.199 was like, you know what, I'm uh what was the 122 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:51.199 uh the Halloween episode or that when we interviewed that 123 00:05:51.240 --> 00:05:53.839 psychopath where I was like, I'm giving the world full Thomas. 124 00:05:54.199 --> 00:05:57.240 Enough is enough, Like it's it's as fucking my balls 125 00:05:57.240 --> 00:05:58.319 are in everybody's faces. 126 00:05:58.360 --> 00:06:03.160 Now, that's exactly what this world is missing, is full Thomas. 127 00:06:04.240 --> 00:06:04.360 Uh. 128 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:07.560 But like it is crazy because like it does and 129 00:06:07.560 --> 00:06:09.800 we'll get into all the things about mushrooms stuff like that, 130 00:06:09.839 --> 00:06:13.319 but it is it does shift your addict. Like I 131 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:17.680 still vape on the show, you know, I like when 132 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:19.639 I'm like having a drink on the show, I vape. 133 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:21.279 But I used to vape every day at work, every 134 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:24.560 break da da da, And now I started microdosing. I 135 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:29.480 don't crave it anymore unless I'm drinking, dude. 136 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:31.240 Honestly, That's kind of where I'm that with shit, is 137 00:06:31.240 --> 00:06:33.360 that after getting into like psychedelics and everything, it just 138 00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:35.439 opens your mind in a different way where it's like 139 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:37.879 if you were somebody that would get addicted to drugs 140 00:06:37.920 --> 00:06:40.360 just because of the way they function, it like pulls 141 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:42.079 you away from that addiction thing because. 142 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:43.040 It seems like it cuts it off. 143 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:45.959 If you're microdosing, will say even twice a week every week, 144 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:49.560 it will cut off the receptors in your brain that 145 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:52.879 allow that addictive person. And my mom will fucking vouch 146 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:55.639 for this. I have an addicted personality, have my entire 147 00:06:55.680 --> 00:06:58.639 life right, so it is crazy. I want to Anton 148 00:06:58.680 --> 00:07:00.800 to get into his stories, but I'll discuss of like 149 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:05.199 why what got me into mushrooms? But Anton, you are 150 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:08.079 a psycho dot to say the least I would say. 151 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:12.199 I mean to to to a certain extent. Yeah, I uh, 152 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:16.319 I definitely. I haven't done ayahuasca. I haven't done enough 153 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:19.600 DMT to break through. I've only ever knocked at that game. 154 00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:23.560 To me too, man, every single time I've ever done it, dude, 155 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:25.439 it's like you get right fucking there. 156 00:07:25.480 --> 00:07:27.639 But I haven't made it to the gate yet. I had. 157 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:30.439 I had two separate DMT experiences to go off that. 158 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:33.079 One of them was at a little festival which we 159 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:35.519 actually went to. After the festival we went to got 160 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:39.600 called off because the groundwater got polluted and we were 161 00:07:39.639 --> 00:07:42.959 just sitting on a little handmade doc uh and somebody's 162 00:07:42.959 --> 00:07:45.120 pond hanging out, and you know, we put a little 163 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:47.480 bit of it on a bowl and the best I 164 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:49.519 got was the clouds went pixelated for a minute, and 165 00:07:49.560 --> 00:07:51.759 I was like, okay. And then the other time I 166 00:07:51.800 --> 00:07:53.240 did it, I smoked it out of a dab rig 167 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:55.879 and my friends were over, and I think I had 168 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:58.279 enough on that one. But the you know, like Leary said, 169 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:00.399 set and setting, I don't think the setting was was right. 170 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:03.920 So I took a big old fucking globber and h 171 00:08:04.519 --> 00:08:09.120 laid back and just felt this overwhelming warmth and love 172 00:08:09.240 --> 00:08:13.000 and joy and saw essentially the Biblical, like the Neo 173 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:15.839 Christian Biblical, having like the gates and the clouds and 174 00:08:15.879 --> 00:08:17.879 all the bullshit. And I was floating and I was 175 00:08:17.920 --> 00:08:20.519 just like, this is fucking sweet, this is cool. And 176 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:22.120 the first thought I had was like, my friends are 177 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:23.879 sitting on my bed right now. I can't die right now. 178 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:24.639 I gotta go back. 179 00:08:25.240 --> 00:08:27.319 And I went back, and I was like, damn it, 180 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:30.160 I'll do that on the DM episode and I'll do 181 00:08:30.240 --> 00:08:32.200 DMT because this is only the last six minutes. 182 00:08:32.399 --> 00:08:34.879 You're you're not doing d MT and recording anything. 183 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:39.360 Yeah, no, pull back, dude, You're like, yeah, I've gotten 184 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:41.279 to the point like right where like I'll hit it 185 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:42.879 when I'm standing up and try to see how far 186 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:44.639 I can go, and like it's. 187 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:45.240 Gotten fucking weird. 188 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:47.159 Bro Like the one time I started seeing Oonie and 189 00:08:47.200 --> 00:08:48.559 my pillow, it was fucking weird. 190 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:49.679 Doggie, my buddy. 191 00:08:49.720 --> 00:08:51.639 I asked my buddy raz about that, and I was like, 192 00:08:51.799 --> 00:08:54.440 cause he's done DMT and I've actually found a place 193 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:57.240 I trust where you can get it a pen and 194 00:08:57.240 --> 00:08:59.480 it's like seven trips or whatever, it depends how long 195 00:08:59.519 --> 00:09:00.399 you have seen hail and. 196 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:00.919 Stuff like that. 197 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:03.039 The only problem with the pens is that them bitches 198 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:05.120 get hot before you can fully blest off, So. 199 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:06.159 You have to make sense. 200 00:09:06.559 --> 00:09:08.519 Yeah, like, if you want to fully blest off, you 201 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:09.960 gotta get the sand. If you're trying to do the carts, 202 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:11.840 you're only gonna get halfway there before that feels like 203 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:12.960 it's gonna explode in your face. 204 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:15.159 That's fine, you got you gotta get those nasty little 205 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:17.679 orange crystals and uh like either yeah, do it out 206 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:18.879 of the dab break, which is how I did it. 207 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:21.159 Just heat it enough to actually vaporize it and then 208 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:22.200 take anton. 209 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:26.440 Is this a d MT episode predamn quick. 210 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:28.519 I mean they're react the same way with your brain, 211 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:30.919 so I mean it still kind of fits, you know, yeah. 212 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:34.320 You said you said psychoonauts. So what little backstory on this? 213 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:35.720 Yeah? What when? 214 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:36.799 What age? Like? 215 00:09:36.840 --> 00:09:39.559 What when do you remember like hearing about magic mushrooms? 216 00:09:39.799 --> 00:09:41.480 What got you into them? 217 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:44.399 My dad is a fucking head, So. 218 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:49.639 He while going through various severe Christian phases, which always 219 00:09:49.679 --> 00:09:51.519 made things difficult for me as a kid. 220 00:09:51.600 --> 00:09:52.200 Yeah, for sure. 221 00:09:53.159 --> 00:09:55.399 But he always was the you know, the kind of 222 00:09:55.480 --> 00:09:57.879 dude that went fishing with his friends and was always 223 00:09:57.960 --> 00:10:00.919 like out, you know, doing mushrooms or smoking weed or 224 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:03.080 you know, doing coke or fucking getting drunk and shit, 225 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:05.440 like it's just he's just a he's ahead. 226 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:08.799 He's an old school, you know, metal headhead. And so 227 00:10:08.840 --> 00:10:11.720 I was always aware of drugs, like always. 228 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:15.879 What was the what age did you first ingest mushrooms? 229 00:10:15.399 --> 00:10:21.279 I first ingested mushrooms, I would honestly say probably twenty really, 230 00:10:21.399 --> 00:10:24.559 Oh so yeah, I didn't know enough people that had it, 231 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:27.080 Like I'd done other psychedelics first, like I did acid 232 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:30.200 before that, I did salvia before I did. 233 00:10:30.039 --> 00:10:32.720 That's easier to get any ways before mushroom. Mushrooms a 234 00:10:32.759 --> 00:10:34.840 little bit harder to get, you know, such a different 235 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:36.240 experience of what I had. 236 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:40.559 I was obsessed with venomous animals and poisonous plants as 237 00:10:40.600 --> 00:10:43.159 a kid, so I was always a little weary where 238 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:45.039 I'm like, what happens if I get mushrooms and I 239 00:10:45.039 --> 00:10:47.759 do them for the first time, and somebody just was like, 240 00:10:47.840 --> 00:10:50.320 I'm gonna go make fucking forty bucks real quick and 241 00:10:50.440 --> 00:10:52.639 gave me a bag of mushrooms they picked from their yard. 242 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:54.960 Weird was the paradoid me. 243 00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:58.240 I didn't know enough people. And then the first time 244 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:00.480 I did it, I ate an ate my first A 245 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:03.320 three point five, my first one, and I was I 246 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:05.799 just had a great time. I sat there with a 247 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:07.480 bunch of friends in the middle of the park and 248 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:10.200 laughed my ass off. I wasn't kicking in fast enough, 249 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:12.080 so we all went and did somersaults down a hill 250 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:14.320 fun I got to. 251 00:11:14.279 --> 00:11:18.279 The bottom of the hill and I was like, oh, oh, 252 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:21.799 that's fucking funny. It's like the dizziness hasn't gone away. 253 00:11:21.840 --> 00:11:23.720 This is awesome. And then you know, it's almost like 254 00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:25.679 that scene in Danacious Tea or I'm just walking touching 255 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:26.320 plants just. 256 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:33.960 Like every he that's fucking funny. 257 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:36.440 It's such a weird different experience than what I had, 258 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:39.559 Like I never heard about like I heard about like 259 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:41.159 obviously asked and stuff like that, but no one we 260 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:44.799 knew how to. But like my friends did mushrooms when 261 00:11:44.879 --> 00:11:47.559 they were like fourteen, like fairly you. 262 00:11:47.799 --> 00:11:50.120 Loved to have done. If I'd have had access to 263 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:53.080 mushrooms when i was fourteen and i'd have started microdosing, 264 00:11:53.399 --> 00:11:56.360 I would probably have actually completed and gone through school 265 00:11:56.360 --> 00:11:57.919 because I would have had some sort of direction. 266 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:01.240 Me too, And that was always but I was always 267 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:03.279 afraid of it. So like I we always like we 268 00:12:03.320 --> 00:12:04.279 smoked tons where we smoked. 269 00:12:04.360 --> 00:12:05.000 We young. 270 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:07.480 I fucking got drunk the first time at like twelve. 271 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:10.039 You know, I've had sex young, did everything young. But 272 00:12:10.080 --> 00:12:12.559 the thing is like with my mind state, and I 273 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:14.799 was in a like juvie and shit like that is 274 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:18.519 that I was afraid of what I might go through 275 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:21.120 and stuff like that. And I saw my friend and 276 00:12:21.159 --> 00:12:22.960 he like, this is a kid that would we would 277 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:24.960 smoke him up and he would be high for like 278 00:12:25.039 --> 00:12:27.600 four hours, like just off a weed. This kid, I 279 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:29.480 don't know, three four hours he would still be stone. 280 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:31.960 I'm like, how he's still high man and. 281 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:33.440 I in high school, and I used to smoke I'd 282 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:34.919 still be a little bit stone the next day. 283 00:12:34.919 --> 00:12:36.600 I don't know why I am how that work. 284 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:39.120 Craze sometimes, Yeah, I would agree. 285 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:40.480 We used to get just as a stupid story. 286 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:42.799 We used to get this kid he's fucking stone, and 287 00:12:42.919 --> 00:12:45.480 uh we had we all had music class together and 288 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:48.320 we for some reason, this teacher was so stupid. He 289 00:12:48.399 --> 00:12:50.960 gave us a We wrote down, like are the instruments 290 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:52.720 that we would want to play, and then everyone kind 291 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:54.559 of got to pick one or whatever like that. He 292 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:56.919 would draw from a thing and pick what people should 293 00:12:56.960 --> 00:12:59.720 be playing, and we all put down tuba as our 294 00:12:59.759 --> 00:13:02.240 number three as a funny thing, and he all gave 295 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:05.039 us two. But was a bad idea because we would 296 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:07.200 get this kid really stone where he couldn't even look 297 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:08.919 at the teacher. You know, music classes set up with 298 00:13:08.919 --> 00:13:10.919 a bunch of chairs obviously, then you have the teacher 299 00:13:10.960 --> 00:13:11.399 in the front. 300 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:12.679 He would like be like this. 301 00:13:14.799 --> 00:13:17.200 Like not even want to look at the teacher, and uh, 302 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:20.600 my guy content like and he would call him out too. 303 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:22.639 It is very funny because then it's just like we 304 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:24.559 all had it too. But we kept blasting and he's like, 305 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:27.320 stop blasting the instrument because like the fun kid to 306 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:29.480 fucking get Stone because he would just laugh at him. 307 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:32.799 And he did mushrooms once and he said a thousand 308 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:34.720 hands felt like they were touching him, and he was 309 00:13:34.759 --> 00:13:37.159 like freaking out, had a bad trip. And it made 310 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:39.840 me conscious of like what it could do to my 311 00:13:40.039 --> 00:13:42.639 mind as a kid. And the crazy thing is, if 312 00:13:42.639 --> 00:13:45.639 I would have done mushrooms earlier, I probably would have 313 00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:47.679 never went through a lot of the bullshit that I 314 00:13:47.720 --> 00:13:49.840 went through because I was like addicted to alcohol and 315 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:51.559 weed and stuff like that at a very young age 316 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:54.720 and it would have changed my life. So I didn't 317 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:57.519 really do it untill I was in my early twenties, 318 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:00.759 maybe even like twenty four to twenty five, and me 319 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:02.840 and Chelsea did it the first time together, and I 320 00:14:02.960 --> 00:14:06.360 remember laughing like crazy and like shadows because we had 321 00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:08.480 the lights off and like just lave lamps going stuff 322 00:14:08.480 --> 00:14:11.000 like a set and setting right, and I just remember shadows. 323 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:12.480 I was like we had a clock on the wall 324 00:14:12.679 --> 00:14:15.120 and the shadow was like moving on the gun. I 325 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:17.120 was like, weird, I'm starting to like see shadows. I 326 00:14:17.159 --> 00:14:19.440 start walking around and I've told ants on the stories 327 00:14:19.480 --> 00:14:20.960 that we were watching, like we're like, what do we 328 00:14:21.000 --> 00:14:24.679 throw on? Let's throw on animal documentary And then like 329 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:27.919 Chelsea was watching like the fish like eat off the 330 00:14:27.919 --> 00:14:30.240 whale's body, and I was like, I can't watch this 331 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:30.799 right now. 332 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:33.200 They're just adding in to mushrooms. 333 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:35.519 If you guys watch any of those like animal documentaries, 334 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:41.879 they talk about Cord with ants takes mushrooms. That's crazy 335 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:45.039 on mushrooms, washing mushrooms like eat all their ship like crazy. 336 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:47.440 Oh yeah, because cordceeps because it's weird because I take 337 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:49.919 Now I'm gonna do a video about this for YouTube 338 00:14:49.919 --> 00:14:51.559 and stuff like that, but I take that quarterceeps lie 339 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:55.759 in Maine lines Maine and turkey tail and turkey tail 340 00:14:55.919 --> 00:14:57.759 defence against cancer and stuff like that, and like I 341 00:14:57.799 --> 00:15:00.639 take all these stuff like daily. So I've like dived 342 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:02.960 really deep into this fun guy stuff. And I found 343 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:06.960 a good trusting place up north called the Ugly Barn 344 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:10.039 and they it's you know, it's a little expensive because 345 00:15:10.039 --> 00:15:13.000 it's like natural and pure, but it's it's helped me. 346 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:13.279 Man. 347 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:15.360 Paul Salmon has some good stuff. I don't know if 348 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:17.080 you can get it in Canada and stuff, but just 349 00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:21.639 the funny story. Bro. It's crazy that like with small 350 00:15:21.679 --> 00:15:24.600 animals it basically is like a parasitic thing, but then 351 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:26.600 with people it gives you energy like ye. 352 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:30.159 What yeah it is were because people used for working 353 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:33.120 out and stuff like that. Yeah, it's crazy because like 354 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:34.879 I did, I got into it recently and then when 355 00:15:34.879 --> 00:15:36.879 we me and Chelsea did it like you know, four 356 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:39.679 four times maybe at the old place we're living at, 357 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:41.279 and I'm just like, I was getting off this kid 358 00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:44.000 and I like, I don't care, I'll say you about 359 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:44.240 this kid. 360 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:45.519 But he was he was this guy I worked with. 361 00:15:45.600 --> 00:15:49.200 He was gay and him and his partner were furries, 362 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:53.440 which is an interesting thing. Uh so he he he 363 00:15:53.480 --> 00:15:55.759 actually as weird as it is. Everything happens for a reason. 364 00:15:55.960 --> 00:15:58.039 This kid got me into Alan Watts and I love 365 00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:00.600 Alan Watts. And he would tell me he was like 366 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:03.759 oh yeah me and fucking uh he called him his 367 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:07.120 husband and they were even married though, and they would 368 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:10.799 do acid and dress up like furries and fuck. And 369 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:12.320 I was like, dude, what animals were they? 370 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:12.919 I gotta know. 371 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:19.360 Wolves for some reason. Three? 372 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:23.480 Yeah, it like dog they did the dog fetiship too? 373 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:26.360 Okay? Were they were they pups? Because it's a whole 374 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:29.399 different thing. Were they leather mask puffs all? Both both 375 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:31.840 both okay, and they get that. 376 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:33.960 He showed me the costumes and he went to like 377 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:35.360 the furry cor like he was showing me and my 378 00:16:35.399 --> 00:16:37.759 buddy Joe when we worked together, and he had the 379 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:40.720 full on costume, and I feel like it was like 380 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:42.840 just looking at natural, like it not natural, but like 381 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:45.080 it looked like just the normal, like brown fur and 382 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:48.240 fucking white belly, and like Anteon's. I was like, don't 383 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:50.080 kink shame, it's fucking straight. 384 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:52.759 Anyone's young adults. 385 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:54.919 I don't care what he's so straight pople combine those 386 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:57.159 two the pup and the and the furry thing where 387 00:16:57.159 --> 00:16:59.080 they'll dress up as a furrey but then add the 388 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:02.159 puff stuff to the a yeah, yeah. 389 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:02.759 Oh yeah absolutely. 390 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:05.160 I've seen I've seen people win full body for costumes 391 00:17:05.200 --> 00:17:07.720 with a leather pop mask, and I'm just like, good 392 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:08.799 for you, good for you. 393 00:17:09.759 --> 00:17:10.680 It's kind of crazy. 394 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:12.359 The fact that they were like he told me, they 395 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:14.599 would like, do mushrooms are especially acid and they would 396 00:17:14.680 --> 00:17:17.240 like like like he was just way too open with 397 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:19.160 me sometimes where I was like, oh cool, like I 398 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:20.279 just want to get mushrooms off. 399 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:22.720 You have either of you ever had sex on acid? 400 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:24.319 No, I haven't done us. 401 00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:26.599 I thought I broke my dick, no joke, and my 402 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:28.240 girlfriend is playing into it. She's like, I think your 403 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:30.759 dick is sideways. 404 00:17:31.319 --> 00:17:33.240 That's what Chelsea would do. That's what girl. 405 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:34.920 There's one of those like you pull back too far 406 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:35.920 and then you hit the middle thing. 407 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:39.960 That's why I broke it. 408 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:43.000 It's it's done now because that this year, I wanted, 409 00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:44.599 like I've told Ante that we want to get away 410 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:47.440 to a cabin and do it together and experience it 411 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:52.160 because it's it wasn't as really available as mushrooms were. 412 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:54.400 I knew tons of dudes that were doing mushrooms all 413 00:17:54.400 --> 00:17:56.519 the time, and I was in especially like I knew, 414 00:17:56.759 --> 00:17:59.720 you know, I was sixteen, seventeen dudes that are doing mushrooms, 415 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:01.279 and they this is when I start getting balls deep 416 00:18:01.279 --> 00:18:04.480 in the reptilian conspiracies and listen to David Ike and 417 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:07.079 all stuff, and I was like, I was legitimately afraid 418 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:09.319 if I did mushrooms that I would see reptiles. 419 00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:11.240 That was one of the mushrooms. 420 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:13.240 When you were a teenager and you were still completely 421 00:18:13.319 --> 00:18:16.319 hormonal and unbalanced, you'd be like a joel Ostine Christian 422 00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:18.599 right now, and we would not be speaking to each other. 423 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:20.319 I don't know about that. I don't know if i'd 424 00:18:20.319 --> 00:18:22.359 go down. I've never been into religion ever. 425 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:24.400 Ever, it could go the other way though, man, Like 426 00:18:24.440 --> 00:18:26.640 I knew a bunch of people like in high school 427 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:29.680 that started out as like, you know, I wouldn't say 428 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:32.240 they were proper weirdos, because we were the proper weirdos, 429 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:35.680 but like they were, they tiptoed into the weirdo circle 430 00:18:35.759 --> 00:18:38.200 and then they started doing like I remember, like it 431 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:40.200 started with them robo tripping, which is fine if you 432 00:18:40.359 --> 00:18:44.279 just just trend, it's fine. Uh de extra morphine? 433 00:18:44.400 --> 00:18:45.480 What the fuck is that shit? 434 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:48.680 You eat entire fucking jar of robotos and capsules? 435 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:50.799 Oh that sounds not like a fun What's the one 436 00:18:50.799 --> 00:18:52.720 where you do the fucking a bunch of benadryl all 437 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:54.319 at once and you feel all heavy and. 438 00:18:54.319 --> 00:18:56.359 Shadow Okay, so I've never I've never gone down the 439 00:18:56.359 --> 00:18:56.920 bend drill thing. 440 00:18:56.920 --> 00:18:58.480 That's one where they're like the spiders. 441 00:18:58.519 --> 00:18:58.720 Man. 442 00:18:58.759 --> 00:19:01.279 I'm like, I've had benadryll for allergies before and then 443 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:04.039 fought through the tired and it's a fucking trip. 444 00:19:04.119 --> 00:19:07.880 But dude, I remember that it took a whole fucking 445 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:09.759 bottle and I remember being faced out of my floor 446 00:19:09.799 --> 00:19:11.839 in the dark at night and I literally thought that 447 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:13.559 the shadows were trying to get me. It was fucking 448 00:19:13.599 --> 00:19:15.559 the one of the worst experiences, bro. 449 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:16.240 That's crazy. 450 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:18.960 I was out with alcohol extra Morphis in the day 451 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:21.000 because it was the easiest thing for all of us 452 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:22.240 to get and we would just do it in like 453 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:25.279 you know, eight or nine people groups and uh, yeah, dude, 454 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:27.920 you have some of the craziest most like I had 455 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:29.160 a time travel one with that. 456 00:19:29.319 --> 00:19:30.759 I went to hell with that one. 457 00:19:31.039 --> 00:19:33.599 That's so weird. That's another top friend. It's so crazy, 458 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:35.559 Like I had. I knew this fucking kid, he like 459 00:19:35.599 --> 00:19:37.400 love Neirvana. It looked like a fucking it looks like 460 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:41.359 I do now I'm just weird. Weird thing is he's 461 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:44.440 dead now and I drugs took his life in recently 462 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:47.480 and I grew up with this schedic. Yeah it's sad, 463 00:19:47.480 --> 00:19:48.799 but he was like, I remember the one time we're 464 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:50.599 hanging out my house no one was home. During high 465 00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:53.759 school he was he was actually dating this chick that 466 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:55.640 dated me first and say it was kind of a 467 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:57.799 weird situation because I knewer and he's like going through 468 00:19:57.799 --> 00:20:00.359 my mom's pills and like looking through like this is 469 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:03.359 lithium minute, and I'm like, oh man, fucking I was 470 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:05.440 into that. I was never into that shit, never into pills. 471 00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:07.799 I like drank and smoke wheed. That was my fucking 472 00:20:07.880 --> 00:20:09.279 jam for a long time. 473 00:20:09.720 --> 00:20:11.799 I never fucked up pills either, for the longest time, 474 00:20:11.920 --> 00:20:14.839 just because like I was always on a ton of 475 00:20:14.839 --> 00:20:16.640 fucking pills as a kid, and it was the last 476 00:20:16.640 --> 00:20:17.759 thing in the world that I wanted to do. 477 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:20.880 You're gonna take soul off? Oh could go on concerto? 478 00:20:20.920 --> 00:20:22.240 Oh going, And I was like, I'm not taking any 479 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:24.400 of that shit. Fuck you my uh, I'll get drunk. 480 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:27.599 My my egg donor uh just decided that that was 481 00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:29.519 the best way to get me put on disability and 482 00:20:29.559 --> 00:20:32.359 get money for her. So that's why I was like, Oh, okay, cool, 483 00:20:32.440 --> 00:20:33.039 let's just you know. 484 00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:35.319 But that's a story for a different fucking for. 485 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:39.119 But when I started smoking weed, I was like twelve 486 00:20:39.119 --> 00:20:41.720 the first time I smoked weed, yes, And then like 487 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:44.839 I was like sixteen when I started consistently smoking every day, 488 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:47.480 and it was it just changed everything, Like I didn't 489 00:20:47.480 --> 00:20:50.279 need anything or any assistance from any of the ship 490 00:20:50.319 --> 00:20:51.559 that they had me on, not that I needed it 491 00:20:51.559 --> 00:20:53.640 in the first place, but you know, when you're a young, 492 00:20:53.640 --> 00:20:55.640 impressionable kid, they're like, yeah, this works. 493 00:20:55.640 --> 00:20:58.079 You're like, okay, dude. Literally same both for me and 494 00:20:58.160 --> 00:21:00.440 I started smoking. I was like thirteen. Then I was sixteen. 495 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:02.480 I had like anger issues and ship and so my 496 00:21:02.480 --> 00:21:04.279 mom was like forcing me to go to therapy, but 497 00:21:04.319 --> 00:21:06.000 I didn't talk to the dude. And then I started 498 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:08.359 smoking weed heavy and I started coming in just like 499 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:11.079 totally relaxed, and he's like, whatever you're doing, it's working 500 00:21:11.119 --> 00:21:11.480 for you. 501 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:15.599 So that's so funny all of us. 502 00:21:16.920 --> 00:21:20.720 And this is this is I have no opens a window, like. 503 00:21:21.839 --> 00:21:24.119 This is why you subscribe to the Patreon because I 504 00:21:24.119 --> 00:21:26.039 said that I want Shane on for a Stranger Danger 505 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:27.920 episode where we can get to know each other a 506 00:21:27.960 --> 00:21:30.759 little more and kind of like it's all on censorship 507 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:33.759 because like I grew up going to therapy and never 508 00:21:34.079 --> 00:21:35.559 fucking it never worked to me. 509 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:39.799 I've to be honest, I've had more great medication, not 510 00:21:39.880 --> 00:21:43.240 so much. I've had more revelations. Mushrooms are my therapy. 511 00:21:43.359 --> 00:21:47.880 Yeah, exactly, I've had more revelations and more with mushrooms. 512 00:21:47.960 --> 00:21:52.200 Mushrooms have fixed my head in the past year more 513 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:54.559 than any therapist has ever done for me. 514 00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:59.920 Ever, so same with mushrooms, weed and LSD, hands down. Yeah, 515 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:00.880 So let's get in. 516 00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:02.839 Let's actually just get into this stuff because we can 517 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:05.119 talk about like stories and stuff throughout this kind of thing. 518 00:22:05.160 --> 00:22:09.039 So magic mushrooms, once the term used to strike fear 519 00:22:09.079 --> 00:22:12.200 into the hearts of most people in Western culture, are 520 00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:15.240 now witnessing something of a comeback, and people are realizing 521 00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:18.200 that not only are they maybe perhaps not bad, but 522 00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:21.359 they might even be pretty amazing. We're going to take 523 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:24.240 you on a brief journey into the world of magic 524 00:22:24.279 --> 00:22:28.279 mushrooms and our long relationship with them, which is pretty 525 00:22:28.319 --> 00:22:30.480 interesting because obviously this goes way back in the day 526 00:22:30.720 --> 00:22:33.640 and just like a psychedelic trip it creates, it creates. 527 00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:37.480 The history of psilocybin has been long and wind and 528 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:40.160 winding journey, just the same as you would feel on 529 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:40.960 a mushrooms. 530 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:44.759 It's a long journey. It's crazy, man, Like, how far 531 00:22:44.880 --> 00:22:47.640 this shit does go back in our history is mind blowing. 532 00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:50.480 Well, I mean, if we're going to the Terrence McKenna level, 533 00:22:50.519 --> 00:22:54.920 I mean it goes back to prehistory, which still the 534 00:22:54.960 --> 00:22:55.720 reason that we are. 535 00:22:55.920 --> 00:23:00.440 Yeah, we'll get into the story down the road. I 536 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:04.480 wanted to. Chelsea just walked down the stairs and she's like, 537 00:23:04.519 --> 00:23:05.160 what the fuck. 538 00:23:05.880 --> 00:23:10.279 Uh, oh my god, Chelsea comes, snatch that fucking wig off. 539 00:23:10.160 --> 00:23:14.839 Of We'll get into the stone a theory because that's 540 00:23:14.839 --> 00:23:18.160 like a big thing, which even in our plans for 541 00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:21.839 actually the Christmas special this year will be all about 542 00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:25.200 how the magic mushroom is connected, uh to Santa Claus 543 00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:27.640 and ship like that, So that will be fun. Oh 544 00:23:27.720 --> 00:23:28.720 you mean the mushroom shaman. 545 00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:31.240 Yeah, there's just some fucking deep shit with that. So 546 00:23:31.319 --> 00:23:34.119 from it's used some religious rituals and ancient cultures and 547 00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:37.759 civilizations to its rise to stardom and the counterculture movement 548 00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:41.440 obviously in the sixties, from the breakthrough breakthrough scientific research 549 00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:44.519 to the dark ages of magic mushrooms. The history of 550 00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:49.400 psilocybin in many ways mirrors the human history through though 551 00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:52.720 you may not learn about it at school. Human history 552 00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:54.960 is full of the drug use. 553 00:23:56.200 --> 00:23:58.759 Yeah, I mean that's why I like the whole you know, 554 00:23:58.799 --> 00:24:01.920 all the culture is still tess with intoxicants and sex. 555 00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:02.799 It's like that's. 556 00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:05.720 Literally human existence. It's literally talking about Go back to 557 00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:07.720 the Greeks. Bro they had that was at a Yearly festival. 558 00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:11.240 They'd all basically take like magic wine and they all 559 00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:14.519 just like have an orgy with each other, and Yearly gave. 560 00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:16.920 Little boys a second off because that's what fucking Romans did, 561 00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:19.200 and then. 562 00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:19.880 They're definitely doing that. 563 00:24:20.519 --> 00:24:24.519 Just want to picture. I just want to picture, like, 564 00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:27.440 you know, normal aged people, a bunch of you know, 565 00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:29.480 oiled up Greek dudes sucking each other, not kids. 566 00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:29.880 I can't. 567 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:31.920 I can't help because now that I've I've always bring 568 00:24:31.960 --> 00:24:35.240 it up, but I dived into the kids because the 569 00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:37.720 Roman thing in Saturn Alien Ship, all that stuff is 570 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:38.759 like fucking deep. 571 00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:41.440 Well, Saturn Alias because that ended up in human sacrifice. 572 00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:43.160 Yeah, a lot of stuff does well. We'll get to 573 00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:45.319 and we'll get into the assec things. But I just 574 00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:47.160 want to say it right now because I didn't know this. 575 00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:50.160 We're gonna get in the assexs soon. But did you 576 00:24:50.200 --> 00:24:55.160 guys know that the Aztecs would give fucking mushrooms to 577 00:24:55.519 --> 00:24:58.079 people that they were going to sacrifice? 578 00:24:58.920 --> 00:25:01.160 I hope that today And that's that's pretty nute. 579 00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:03.640 No fucking frightening that beagle give the guys that ripped 580 00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:04.240 dot in his heart. 581 00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:07.359 I actually was watching a YouTube video about it, which 582 00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:09.559 I did look it up, and there is because they 583 00:25:09.559 --> 00:25:12.920 would do rituals and ceremonies ingesting mushrooms, and they would 584 00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:14.880 also like do it to towards their gods, right, they 585 00:25:14.920 --> 00:25:18.200 would sacrifice someone for the gods, and and we'll get 586 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:20.400 into like the gods of the flesh of the gods 587 00:25:20.440 --> 00:25:22.960 is what they call the mushroom. But I never knew 588 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:24.880 that they would and I could see him doing it anyways, 589 00:25:24.920 --> 00:25:26.200 right because it was part of the ritual you have 590 00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:30.200 to ingest also some sort of like also this component 591 00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:32.680 of it would I'm sure it like went into the rituals. 592 00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:35.720 But the fact that you'd be tripping balls, who knows. 593 00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:37.720 How much they gave you and then this guy's like 594 00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:39.920 staying over you with a knife and back, got it? 595 00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:42.519 Call it whatever the fuck they say in Indiana Jones. 596 00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:45.319 Dude, in all fairness, though, if you were going to 597 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:47.759 be sacrificed, like, I don't think there's any other way 598 00:25:47.759 --> 00:25:49.839 to do it, like fucking load me up with as 599 00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:51.200 many fucking drugs as possible. 600 00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:53.079 You're gonna get into that experience. 601 00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:55.039 Otherwise you're gonna be sitting there at that last second 602 00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:56.680 like all right, wait wait, I changed my mind. 603 00:25:56.720 --> 00:25:59.279 I don't want to do this, so here's here. 604 00:25:59.319 --> 00:26:00.680 Yeah he was here was my thing with that. 605 00:26:01.799 --> 00:26:03.599 I feel like that could work either way. Say you're 606 00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:07.240 like a rival tribe that's being sacrificed because you're you know, 607 00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:08.680 you've been conquered or what have you. 608 00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:10.720 And they give you that, you could probably you probably 609 00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:11.240 freak out. 610 00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:13.119 But if you're one of those people that they're like, 611 00:26:13.240 --> 00:26:16.039 you are the chosen sacrifice for the gods, you're going 612 00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:18.160 to be with that. Yeah, yeah, and they load you 613 00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:22.039 to the gills on strong hallucinogizing you very well maybe 614 00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:25.960 in whatever after life already by the time they're cutting 615 00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:26.319 into you. 616 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:29.000 And you don't really have fear in some extent to. 617 00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:32.480 Although the thought of getting stabbed while tripping is the 618 00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:33.640 most horrific thing though. 619 00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:34.640 I couldn't imagine what that was. 620 00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:37.960 Somebody just coming towards you with it and you're like, oh 621 00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:40.440 my god, just like you know Aaron said that too, 622 00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:42.480 where it's like, would you rather be shot like a 623 00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:43.359 shot of stab shot? 624 00:26:43.359 --> 00:26:44.079 One hundred percent? 625 00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:46.160 I wouldn't now want to get the feeling of like 626 00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:48.640 just getting like you know, you're Linda Casse being it 627 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:51.519 and just like getting stabbed fucking forty times, like fucking no, 628 00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:52.880 so crazy. 629 00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:53.599 Let's depends you're. 630 00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:55.680 Getting sabbed the first time in all fairness though, and 631 00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:59.160 be like Stu, like, man, you're coming too deep. It's 632 00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:00.640 like that's the point I was trying to cut you 633 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:01.039 too deep. 634 00:27:01.559 --> 00:27:04.319 Yeah, I'm getting stabbed in the jugular where I'm barely 635 00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:07.039 feeling it versus getting shot in the kneecap or the gut. Yeah, 636 00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:08.000 they'll take the stabbing. 637 00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:10.920 Yeah, So that's what I'm saying. From ancients using opium 638 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:14.839 to Hitler taking math, there's no shortage of priest, emperor's, tyrants, 639 00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:18.599 and normal folk indulging in mind altering substances. The drug 640 00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:21.759 with perhaps the longest recorded history of in human use 641 00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:26.079 is psilocybin, and psychoactive compound that's in magic mushrooms, so 642 00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:29.759 people that don't know when you it's the The second 643 00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:34.440 compound in mushrooms is psilocybin or psilocybincn. Cubensis. 644 00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:38.200 And then when you ingest it, it turns into silicon, 645 00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:41.839 which it could reacts in your gut and and then 646 00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:45.319 it goes into your nervous system essentially, and that's why 647 00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:47.319 like it's weird because the way it affects you is 648 00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:49.799 is interesting because the way it goes in your nervous system, 649 00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:51.759 Like there's sometimes are like I'm cauld I do them 650 00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:54.559 all the time. I'm like, I feel like it's eve 651 00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:57.000 when my hair feels weird, like on my skin, like 652 00:27:57.039 --> 00:27:59.119 it's it's it's a weird feeling where my hair feels 653 00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:02.319 like I can feel it grown wing. 654 00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:03.799 Twitch sometimes or you like feel like like a twitch 655 00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:04.880 and you like your arm. 656 00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:06.519 Yeah, And it's. 657 00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:07.920 Weird if I my curple because I have carple title 658 00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:10.480 if it's bad, one day it will like show me 659 00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:12.680 like why I took and I'll get into maybe in 660 00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:14.359 the end of this way. I've tried Blue Meanies. I've 661 00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:17.720 thrasher in the fridge and Golden Teacher. Blue Meanies are 662 00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:21.599 fairly strong thrashers through like really strong and uh it 663 00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:23.599 was like I did a t of seven grams of it, 664 00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:26.279 the highest dose of ticket as a tea, not ingesting 665 00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:29.920 it like through uh eating it. But the one time 666 00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:32.359 we did Blue Meanies, like it fucking my wrist, I 667 00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:34.920 was like, oh, I can feel I could feel it inside, 668 00:28:35.079 --> 00:28:36.839 Like my carpal title is fucking weird. 669 00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:41.400 I feel like, will you mhmm. The blue Meanies, they're 670 00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:42.079 the obi ones. 671 00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:44.720 What do you mean? Ob One's Obie. 672 00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:47.319 So just a little bit of a backstory about blue meanies. 673 00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:49.400 In the nineties, there's this guy that was coming up 674 00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:51.559 with genetics and his name is jet Fuel, and he 675 00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:54.240 came up with the ob one Blue Meanies. So that's 676 00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:57.000 like the the original o G Blue Meanies. And then 677 00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:01.079 there's side variations that people have created. I just one, yeah, 678 00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:03.039 and those are blue. Those are just called blue meanings. 679 00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:04.960 But if they're the ob one blue means and they're 680 00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:08.000 from the original genetics of the original stuel, that's cool. 681 00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:09.880 And I was just talking like what, as far as 682 00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:13.559 I know, white widow and the weed strain doesn't exist anymore. 683 00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:14.880 It's been so. 684 00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:17.200 New that as being weed laced with coke, And then 685 00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:19.160 all of a sudden people just started calling strains that. 686 00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:21.200 No white white widow was like, I grew up smoking 687 00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:22.920 white window on AK and stuff like that. Right, that 688 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:25.799 was like AK forty seven, these like main strains, right, 689 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:28.559 And I was talking to a chick at the dispensary. 690 00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:30.319 I was like, did you guys ever get white widow? 691 00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:31.759 And she's like, because they have like black widow. I 692 00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:33.759 was like, oh, that's interesting, and she's like, white widow 693 00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:37.440 as far as she's looked into, has been lost in 694 00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:39.079 crosby a wit widow in. 695 00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:41.319 Colorado all the time. Like when the dispensaries first opened 696 00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:44.119 up out there, they always had ak, they always had 697 00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:46.160 train wreck, they always had white widow, they always had 698 00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:52.079 Northern I was always like the big main strains. 699 00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:53.279 Coming from somebody that works in the cannabis industry, Dude, 700 00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:56.440 every single strain isn't what you think it is like 701 00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:57.799 coming from the inside. 702 00:29:58.119 --> 00:29:59.200 Like if they don't, if. 703 00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:01.119 They just they just called it whatever the fuck they want, 704 00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:04.319 know where they come from. There's no such thing as 705 00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:06.839 a sativa or an India anymore. Everything is just so 706 00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:10.799 interest that everything's a hybrid now, Like the industry from 707 00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:12.839 the inside is totally different than what people see on 708 00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:13.160 the outs. 709 00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:16.039 As a full episode for Strange Brew, I think that'd 710 00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:19.839 be a great easily, Dude, come from the inside of marijuana. 711 00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:20.880 That's fucking kiss fan. 712 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:23.759 You're just sitting there and have a bunch of weed 713 00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:25.359 in the vault and then they'll just start calling you random 714 00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:26.279 ass names and they saw. 715 00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:27.079 That's fucking sad. 716 00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:29.559 And I don't know if it's different from Express, where 717 00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:32.079 he's just walking around being like this is this, this 718 00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:32.759 is this. 719 00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:35.480 Literally that, and they call everything. They put the word 720 00:30:35.559 --> 00:30:37.079 jungle in it where I work, and I'm just like, no, 721 00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:38.720 don't do that. You have the word jungle in it 722 00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:40.119 just sounds like some trash weed. 723 00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:44.599 Yeah, yeah, like Nipper but the bull that everybody poured 724 00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:45.319 their booze into. 725 00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:46.640 And You're like, I. 726 00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:49.079 Would like to do I don't know how can it is? 727 00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:51.119 And as much as like I love the dispenser, I 728 00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:53.240 go to one specific one that all the people are 729 00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:54.960 like the greatest people ever, like the one chick there. 730 00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:57.039 Well, the company that owns my company now is a 731 00:30:57.079 --> 00:30:59.359 Canadian company. It's called Terra Sentence, so I'm sure it's 732 00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:01.640 all the same work. And the company that I work 733 00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:04.319 for is called Gauge, which was originally a Canadian company 734 00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:05.480 and then it came to Michigan. 735 00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:08.720 You know what I do now? Yeah, I just smoke, 736 00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:09.599 you know what I mean? 737 00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:12.880 Like, I find what I like, right, wedding cake I 738 00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:14.640 just got recently, I find what I like, and then 739 00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:17.359 I'm like, ah, more of that. These mango like fucking 740 00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:19.440 small joints are fucking delicious. Anyways, that's it for the 741 00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:23.200 weed episode. But like, obviously this drug has been in 742 00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:26.839 our history and you know, in our like it's crazy, 743 00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:32.160 like it's so it's a surrounded humanity for since our beginning. 744 00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:35.519 Magic mushrooms is a broad name given to any mushrooms, 745 00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:41.519 uh in the psilosibe genome and the like the genetics 746 00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:45.079 of what creates and like this mushroom, and there's tons 747 00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:45.319 of them. 748 00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:47.720 Obviously this is just a fucking there's so. 749 00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:53.440 Many different There's there's over two hundred uh known species 750 00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:57.680 of psilocybin q benss, which is fucking crazy, two hundred. 751 00:31:57.759 --> 00:31:59.400 That's why I'm like, just like, do you need to 752 00:31:59.440 --> 00:31:59.880 keep buying? 753 00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:00.519 Did she like? 754 00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:02.680 You find one you like and you stick with that? 755 00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:05.559 And I'm like, no, I want to keep experimenting. And 756 00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:08.039 then I've never tried penis envy and they're supposed to 757 00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:09.599 be one of the strongest mushrooms. 758 00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:11.000 Have you had ape before? 759 00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:13.920 No, So i I'll go through what I've had. I'll 760 00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:16.440 say that's albino penis envy. But everybody knows it as ape. 761 00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:18.640 So before I. 762 00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:22.640 Start with B plus like normal, like I didn't mind 763 00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:26.680 B plus. Then I tried Blue Meanies and those were 764 00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:30.960 like far more potent. Uh and uh because I put 765 00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:33.319 it on that psychedelic page because I did Blue Meanies 766 00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:37.720 that was and Blue Meanis were strong and I like 767 00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:41.279 them because the best visuals I've ever had was chewing 768 00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:44.039 Blue Meanies where me and Chelsea were I've told that. 769 00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:44.799 I teld about the story. 770 00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:47.480 We were listening to, like we had music on and 771 00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:50.160 then we fucking were listening to Lance Moore set and 772 00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:54.079 we're like he looks she looks just like the dude 773 00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:57.519 from Food Fighters, like just like him, and we're like 774 00:32:57.720 --> 00:32:59.400 it was weird and we're sitting there and then like 775 00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:01.680 I laid back and I was like, it's crazy this 776 00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:05.200 ship you could see because I could see geometric patterns, 777 00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:08.599 like like I'm saying, like three D shit, And I 778 00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:10.920 always describe it as you know when Harry Potter when 779 00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:13.039 he puts on the cloak and you can kind of 780 00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:15.960 see him, you know what I mean. Yeah, and like 781 00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:17.160 and it was in front. 782 00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:17.519 Of my face. 783 00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:20.240 All this stuff was like moving around and it's like 784 00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:25.480 it's an incredible experience. And I tried blue Banshees. Those 785 00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:29.200 were pretty fucking nice. Mesotepic those are my mesotepic tech. 786 00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:34.240 They're the ones that Mary Marina Sambini, the chick from Mexico, 787 00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:38.759 she does rituals with them. Yeah, I like them because 788 00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:42.640 they are like, to me, lighter. Where on haul it 789 00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:45.079 was like two days for Halloween or whatever. I did 790 00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:47.039 like three grams and I carved my pumpkin trip and 791 00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:49.119 balls and I was like, but I could. It's not that, 792 00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:51.480 you know, the heavy feeling you get in your brain 793 00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:53.480 like that, It doesn't do that. 794 00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:56.640 You know, you can't focus on stuff. You're kind of 795 00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:58.559 just like one track mine on something. 796 00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:00.240 And your brain is like, you don't feeling in your 797 00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:03.039 brain the heaviness. I can't even describe the fuzziness that 798 00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:06.079 is my buddy describes it. And I didn't have that, 799 00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:08.280 But you can still, like you can. I could go 800 00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:10.599 out and do things on this strain. That's why I 801 00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:13.559 like that strain. And I'm gonna go towards it more often. 802 00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:18.320 And then uh, and then I got uh my Golden Teacher. 803 00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:22.440 I don't like I've tried Golden Hillbilly or Hillbilly gold 804 00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:26.119 didn't like liked it. It's a good it's fine. But 805 00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:28.920 I told Anton that I've noticed that the Golden Teacher, 806 00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:30.039 the stuff with gold in it. 807 00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:33.039 Uh, It's that's like the most generic strain I could 808 00:34:33.079 --> 00:34:33.800 possibly think of. 809 00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:36.039 That's like the gorilla glue number four of mushrooms. 810 00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:39.320 Yeah, it makes you feel I don't like it. Like 811 00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:42.800 it makes me feel tired. Every time I've done Golden Teacher, 812 00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:45.719 I feel like tired and depressed at first. Then it 813 00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:48.239 kicks in, but the beginning of it sucks. 814 00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:50.960 Okay, it's called Golden Teachers. They're trying to teach you 815 00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:51.360 some shit. 816 00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:53.199 Yeah, and I don't want to be learning right now. 817 00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:54.039 I want to be tripping. 818 00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:57.159 But and then so I still have my fridge and 819 00:34:57.199 --> 00:34:59.039 I'm like, yeah, maybe I'll do them sometime or whatever. 820 00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:03.280 Blue b and she the the thinnest stems I've ever 821 00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:06.239 seen out of a mushroom. And it's it's a strain 822 00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:09.760 between blue meanies obviously, and there's another one, and I 823 00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:12.320 like them. They're pretty potent because the thicker the stems 824 00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:15.679 supposedly the more stilocybin it holds. And uh, they were 825 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:17.679 really thin where you're able to just eat them. 826 00:35:18.039 --> 00:35:18.800 And then I got the. 827 00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:21.440 Thrasher chewing on a fucking chunky n oh. 828 00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:24.320 Man, if I'm not gonna do this because they'll probably 829 00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:26.079 get pulled from if we put this up on YouTube 830 00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:29.360 or whatever, right, but the thrasher ones I have are 831 00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:32.239 have the thickest stems. I think I showed an antel 832 00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:34.599 like a video. It's so thick it's ridiculous. 833 00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:36.639 And they're supposed to be some of the most potent 834 00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:38.519 next to like the penis semi ones that I'm gonna 835 00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:39.079 try next. 836 00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:40.519 It's crazy. 837 00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:43.000 All I'm saying is throw those bitches in an electric grinder. 838 00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:44.320 Yes, you know I. 839 00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:47.079 Usually makes those I was gonna say, I usually make 840 00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:47.800 shrem tach tea. 841 00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:50.400 That's usually my way of going yeah, yeah, I do 842 00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:52.760 that too. And then then and that's why I want. 843 00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:54.519 I'm gonna do a video for YouTube about this of 844 00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:57.079 how to make the Beginner's Guide, because I've had people 845 00:35:57.079 --> 00:35:59.800 ask me to talk about it just because my experience. 846 00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:02.639 But there's there's so many strains and I'm like, I 847 00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:05.679 will go through this journey for as long as I 848 00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:08.400 live if I'm able to access them and try different strains. 849 00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:10.199 But obviously, like when I have a kid and stuff 850 00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:12.199 like that, Like, I'll be more wary of doing. 851 00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:14.679 This on an off time. You do it at night. 852 00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:16.960 That's usually my go to, just to throw in something 853 00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:18.960 I'm off tomorrow. 854 00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:26.400 Have you ever heard of enigma? No, it's a strain 855 00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:27.079 of mushrooms. 856 00:36:27.199 --> 00:36:30.800 Oh really, not Jim Carrey. So let me explain these things. 857 00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:31.760 They're fucking weird, dude. 858 00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:33.840 They grow like coral, Like they look like a brain, 859 00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:35.840 and they're really really hard to grow. Like there's a 860 00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:37.599 trick to them that you know, is one of those 861 00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:39.000 like trade secrets. I don't want to give it out 862 00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:41.199 because there's like Facebook pages dedicated to how to grow 863 00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:41.880 these damn things. 864 00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:44.840 But you need to talk to me on a Patreon 865 00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:47.920 so I want to know. Yeah, I'll tell you after 866 00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:48.679 the show for sure. 867 00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:52.599 But pretty much like they're they're a mutation of ape, 868 00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:54.519 which is all bino penis NDI, but it's like a 869 00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:57.239 stronger mutation and it grows like thick ass coral. Dude. 870 00:36:57.239 --> 00:36:59.360 That's probably one of the best mushrooms I've ever had. 871 00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:02.360 The really, but they hit you like they're mentally light, 872 00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:03.920 but they hit you heavy at the same time, like 873 00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:05.920 they're really heavy on the visuals like the really the. 874 00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:08.840 Trime as a tech ones that like you should I 875 00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:11.840 think you would like those ones. It's interesting because I'm 876 00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:14.239 just diving down these different like strains and stuff like 877 00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:17.480 that and what it makes me feel. And like my 878 00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:19.320 buddy that I grew up with and stuff like that, 879 00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:20.840 he was getting into him for a while and changed 880 00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:23.239 his life as much as he's changed mind. And uh, 881 00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:26.079 I want to start going forward, especially before where you like, 882 00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:27.519 I'm getting married next year. I want to have like 883 00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:29.480 we're thinking about having kids and all this stuff. I 884 00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:31.840 want to start like categorizing it. Like I've said to Anton, 885 00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:34.079 We're like like even if it's for five, man's either 886 00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:37.000 writing it down or videotape myself and be like, hey, 887 00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:40.320 this is how I'm feeling right now. That and like 888 00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:43.280 so people understand what strain they might want to go with, 889 00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:46.440 because I think it's important to like learn about this stuff. 890 00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:48.079 And I was joking as like if I could work 891 00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:50.559 at a shrewmery, I would one hundred percent do that. 892 00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:51.559 I'd run one. 893 00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:53.440 You gotta do it at the start and then at 894 00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:55.880 the peak. So then at the start, Yeah, like I'm 895 00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:57.800 feeling good, I'm feeling light at the peak. You know, 896 00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:02.719 you'll be having like your primal makeup on no Shitting'll 897 00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:03.920 be like, yeah, you. 898 00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:06.440 Know, my joke is obviously I get back into the history. 899 00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:08.800 But my joke is always uh that, uh, I'm gonna 900 00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:10.719 end up like I'm gonna go in the forest. I'm 901 00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:16.199 gonna be Rob Williams and Jumanji just talking like freaking out, dude. 902 00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:18.079 That's always my biggest fear of doing mushrooms in the 903 00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:20.159 woods is just I'll just disappear into the woods and 904 00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:22.119 I'll just you'll find me like three weeks later, you know, 905 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:23.960 wearing like a giant leaf loin cloth. 906 00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:26.199 Yeah, like talking a primitive language. 907 00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:29.880 Do a live special and just talk about mushrooms overall 908 00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:33.320 and our experiences because, like Anton knows, during the summer, 909 00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:36.559 we have a projector outside in these comfortable like chairs 910 00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:38.840 that we put cushions on, and I was doing mushrooms 911 00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:42.480 every every weekend, and we're watching movies like I watched 912 00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:46.480 The Village High as Fuck, like on four grams of mushrooms, 913 00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:48.679 where everything around the movie was. 914 00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:52.119 Like a no no, and then I was like at 915 00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:53.960 the end of it, I was like, oh shit, I 916 00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:55.639 realize because I haven't seen so I was thirteen. My 917 00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:57.599 buddy fell asleep in the movie theater when we saw it, 918 00:38:57.800 --> 00:38:58.440 and like, I. 919 00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:01.320 Was like for him and I, okay, it is whatever. 920 00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:04.360 I like n Night Shambalan to an extent he's doing 921 00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:05.239 it was different. 922 00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:08.079 It was like a one time watch movie. Once the 923 00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:10.480 twist is ruined, it's over, but it's worth watching one I. 924 00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:13.239 Forgot about like that one just. 925 00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:15.400 Has the biggest plot hole out of everything. I was like, 926 00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:17.719 you mean to tell me not one fucking plane flew 927 00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:23.000 over that village. 928 00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:25.079 Oh oh yeah, I don't even think about that. 929 00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:27.239 Nobody was like, I'm just gonna venture and create my 930 00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:30.039 own area lit the days. Like at the end I 931 00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:30.800 started realizing. 932 00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:33.159 I was like, oh yeah, the big twist and I 933 00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:35.639 was like, oh, trip it out, Okay. It made me 934 00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:38.880 twist when I watched The Witch on Mushrooms, which tripped 935 00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:42.199 me out crazy. That ship was fucking nuts man. That 936 00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:46.079 movie starts talking to the man, and then was like, 937 00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:49.280 I don't think it's as crazy as you think it is. 938 00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:51.800 And I'd gotten this thought about all the times I've 939 00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:54.159 used weiji boards and mess with the occult and how 940 00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:57.239 long Witchcraft and that demonic force stays with inside of 941 00:39:57.239 --> 00:39:57.960 our history. 942 00:39:58.199 --> 00:39:59.599 It was like a crazy trip. 943 00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:01.559 I was like, you get scared and end up Christian. 944 00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:03.360 Yeah, I could see it. 945 00:40:03.400 --> 00:40:05.320 And then but every time I took a piss and 946 00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:07.199 I could see like looking out to we have a 947 00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:08.639 big back here and looking out to the back of 948 00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:11.639 it is like fucking crazy. Let's get back into it 949 00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:14.400 because I want to do a whole live and we'll discuss, uh. 950 00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:19.360 Just one thing on movies, on mushrooms. So I've told 951 00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:21.119 this story before, but Shane, I don't know ever told 952 00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:23.239 you this story. So my buddy and I got I 953 00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:25.000 don't know what the strain was. It was just at 954 00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:26.400 the time where it was like, oh, let's just fucking 955 00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:28.400 you know, get some rooms. We got some good rooms, 956 00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:30.920 like okay, cool, and we both ate like about four 957 00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:34.239 grams each And the whole time I was like, let's 958 00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:37.480 go camping, let's go you know, let's just take a weekend, 959 00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:42.000 go do whatever. Because for me, when I'm tripping, I'm like, 960 00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:44.039 I'm not gonna say I have to be, but I 961 00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:47.719 greatly prefer to be either near running water or anywhere 962 00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:49.800 that I can just take my shoes off fact the 963 00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:51.079 mud and just chill. 964 00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:51.599 That's cool. 965 00:40:51.719 --> 00:40:53.400 That's how I ground myself when I'm tripping. 966 00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:55.760 Yeah, Like if you're tripping balls on mushrooms, bro, like, 967 00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:57.639 you gotta have outside time, even if you pop out 968 00:40:57.639 --> 00:40:59.800 for like five minutes every hour like joint. 969 00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:02.599 Or so, I need to like just go, like not 970 00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:06.119 primal to the ongo bungo like fucking level, but like 971 00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:08.559 just like I'm gonna go, you know, walk around with 972 00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:10.800 my toes thoroughly in the mud and just sit near 973 00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:12.079 a tree and just soak it in. 974 00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:15.079 Like and the one time when we dropped acid, I 975 00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:16.000 sat in a creek. 976 00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:17.400 For an hour just it was just running and there 977 00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:19.000 was a little fuzzy rock that I went and just 978 00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:21.440 laid on and looked up and the canopy of trees 979 00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:23.960 had a perfect triangle and the sunlight just that was great. 980 00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:28.360 But anyways, that's neither here nor there. My buddy's like, no, 981 00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:34.480 let's watch Meet the Feebles. Oh God, I love Peter Jackson. 982 00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:37.159 I've a dead alive tattoo. I absolutely love Peter Jackson. 983 00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:39.719 I've only seen Meet the Feebles once before and I 984 00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:43.000 didn't remember it. And let me tell you, obviously, I'm 985 00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:44.679 sure you know because you laugh when you heard it. 986 00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:47.239 But for anyone who doesn't know that, I've never seen it. 987 00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:50.239 Pretty fucked up and pretty great when you're you know, 988 00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:53.719 drunk or stone. But on Mushrooms, all of the character 989 00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:58.079 stories individually are so human and fucked up that that's 990 00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:00.639 all I could focus on. And by the end of 991 00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:03.079 the movie, I turned and he's just got his hoodie 992 00:42:03.320 --> 00:42:05.920 scrunched up around his face and he goes, we should 993 00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:06.840 have gone camp and I'm. 994 00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:10.440 Sorry, I'm so sorry, and I was like, you fucking 995 00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:11.320 did this. 996 00:42:11.320 --> 00:42:12.000 This is our night. 997 00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:14.480 Now we're all just sitting here like, well, I'm depressed. 998 00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:17.000 And Anton wants to do a Patreon episode and I 999 00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:18.639 was like, I'll do mushrooms and watch it. He's like, no, 1000 00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:21.039 let's just drink and watch it, because I've never like. 1001 00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:24.039 You will absolutely not take mushrooms and watch Meet the Feebles. 1002 00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:26.199 There's a lot of movies that you watch sober and 1003 00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:27.960 you're like, this would be great to watch on mushrooms, 1004 00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:28.960 then you instantly regret it. 1005 00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:30.800 Dark O Riztil is also one of those movies. 1006 00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:34.719 Oh yeah, dark Crystal sure is saying with puppets and shit, man, 1007 00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:37.079 I've watched some dark shit, like I watched I watched 1008 00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:39.920 it follows on like two grams of mushrooms. That shit 1009 00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:41.280 was fucking crazy horrores that. 1010 00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:43.880 Place his films just just a little fun part. Everybody 1011 00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:46.440 knows my fucking weird win to go shadow people story. 1012 00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:48.840 The part in that movie where they're sitting in abandoned 1013 00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:51.199 lot behind a building that's Northfield. That's the place that 1014 00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:54.239 I'm always telling everybody about film that shit in Michigan. 1015 00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:56.079 That's crazy because we can always do a revisit to 1016 00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:57.519 the wedding wi you've covered it. But like, that's what 1017 00:42:57.559 --> 00:42:59.159 I'm saying about that live that we want to do 1018 00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:02.760 about talk about cryptids as a whole, even, like just 1019 00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:04.960 getting into all sorts of different cryptids would be really 1020 00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:08.159 fun because like me and Billy covered the Michigan dog 1021 00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:09.159 Man and Billy loved that. 1022 00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:12.079 Sure, He's like, what the fun. 1023 00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:14.199 So let's get back into this. So obviously there's all 1024 00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:17.800 these different strains of mushrooms. You know, they all contain psilocybin. 1025 00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:20.840 Do the number of species and the diversity of those species. 1026 00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:23.280 Magic mushrooms can be found in many places of the world. 1027 00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:26.639 There's like tons in Canada, tons in Europe and stuff 1028 00:43:26.639 --> 00:43:29.159 like that. Like it's it's surprising now where I'm like, 1029 00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:31.880 can I go looking for them? Because Paul Stamm it's 1030 00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:34.800 like my homie, Like I would love to if I 1031 00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:36.480 could ever get him on the show, If I ever 1032 00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:38.559 had the opportunity to get him on the show, I 1033 00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:40.960 would absolutely adore that because I love that man. I've 1034 00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:42.920 watched so many of his talks. But he lives in 1035 00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:45.960 BC now because like there's and he like goes mushroom 1036 00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:49.280 hunting and stuff like that, and uh so. 1037 00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:51.039 Obviously it's it can be. 1038 00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:53.719 It's a found in places in the worlds, and no 1039 00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:56.679 wonder we have such long kinship to it. 1040 00:43:57.039 --> 00:43:57.599 In humanity. 1041 00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:00.480 Magic mushrooms have been used since the birth of someation 1042 00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:03.960 twelve thousand years ago, and possibly used even before then 1043 00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:08.519 when cave people were existing. Because this is a cave 1044 00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:11.960 drawing of mushrooms where obviously it looks like mushrooms. You 1045 00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:14.920 know it's interpretation, right, but we're showing a picture and 1046 00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:18.840 it's like one of the most famous cave drawings when 1047 00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:21.440 it comes to magic mushrooms. 1048 00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:25.320 Fucking of weird A bunch of penises? Is it weird 1049 00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:26.960 that the mushroom looks like a penis, but it's like 1050 00:44:26.960 --> 00:44:27.199 an I. 1051 00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:28.119 Guess is with wigs on. 1052 00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:30.719 Yeah, my question is I don't know if you have 1053 00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:31.960 it already added in here, so I don't want to 1054 00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:34.000 jump too far ahead. But just like, the whole reasoning 1055 00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:37.480 behind why people theoretically would have started eating mushrooms is like. 1056 00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:41.519 Why because well, the whole idea is like I saw 1057 00:44:41.519 --> 00:44:44.079 a meme. It's like, thank god that person that they 1058 00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:46.519 always the one person that ate stuff to understand if 1059 00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:49.320 it was edible or not, because you know what I mean, 1060 00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:51.719 Because that's the idea of like that we needed to 1061 00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:54.800 consume stuff to survive, right, and at the beginning of 1062 00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:57.440 our existence, are we influenced by aliens or whatever? 1063 00:44:57.519 --> 00:44:57.679 Right? 1064 00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:00.239 But like how do we how do we know it's 1065 00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:02.280 good and bad? You know that guy that eats the 1066 00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:04.400 fucking uh Joe Rogan talks about the ship, right, you 1067 00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:07.880 eat the fucking the berry on the tree, and then 1068 00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:11.039 then uh fucking Fred falls down and dies. You're like, okay, 1069 00:45:11.159 --> 00:45:13.239 not eating that berry. I was like, all right, it's 1070 00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:15.079 a little fun fact. 1071 00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:17.800 The next one family of rats, if they find a 1072 00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:19.599 new food, one of them will eat it, and they'll 1073 00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:21.199 wait twenty four hours before the rest eat it. 1074 00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:24.719 Fucking create rats. Are high highly more intelligent than we 1075 00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:25.519 give them credit for. 1076 00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:27.920 Dude, I used to breed rats. I had like thirty 1077 00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:30.400 hairless rats. Dude, Like, I know a lot about rats, ud, 1078 00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:33.159 They're fucking smartest shit. It's crazy going back into what 1079 00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:35.280 I was saying, just the whole concept of you're. 1080 00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:37.199 Gonna be like that guy from have you Seen Them? Wait? 1081 00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:42.000 If you're seen that movie with U Crystal Clover, the 1082 00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:42.440 rat's a. 1083 00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.800 Movie guy committed with all the fucking rats. 1084 00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:49.719 But dude, just the whole concept though, of just falling 1085 00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:52.960 around herds and seeing ship and then seeing mushrooms. 1086 00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:53.440 You're out of it. 1087 00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:55.039 So there's something that looks like a dick growing out 1088 00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:56.840 of shit, and somebody was just like, yep, I'm gonna 1089 00:45:56.840 --> 00:45:57.079 eat that. 1090 00:45:57.159 --> 00:45:58.079 I know I eat that. 1091 00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:00.800 So I've always thought too part of the thing that 1092 00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:04.360 I would assume influenced modern humans is watching other animals 1093 00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:07.199 that are similar to them, watching what they eat. You're 1094 00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:09.199 just like, Okay, that thing is eating that and it 1095 00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:11.519 didn't die. I just watched that bird go and eat 1096 00:46:11.559 --> 00:46:13.760 those berries and it's fine. And then it's like that's 1097 00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:16.400 what those berries and it's fucking dead, And. 1098 00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:18.400 I'm like, what if it happened to eat that bird 1099 00:46:18.440 --> 00:46:19.800 and then he like punches the bird. 1100 00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:23.760 Animals usually regret eating psychedelic mushrooms though, because bears will 1101 00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:27.000 do that shit. Sometimes videos like their cubs stripping fucking balls. 1102 00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:29.239 But I try to grow some strooms in my backyard. 1103 00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:31.320 Brow and the rats and just other animals. It looks 1104 00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:33.119 like everything would come up and take one little tiny 1105 00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:34.480 bite off it and they wouldn't touch it ever. 1106 00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:37.400 Really, man, we have to do a pat at least 1107 00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:39.079 a Patriot episode, so it's not like out in the 1108 00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:42.239 airwaves too much or we talk about stuff like this, 1109 00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:45.039 because I'd be curious of what you've done, how you 1110 00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:48.679 end up structuring, because I know I just before this episode, 1111 00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:52.480 I listened to a magic there's the two books in 1112 00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:57.039 one Magic Mushroom Guide. It was by someone with the 1113 00:46:57.119 --> 00:46:59.400 last name Leary, but it wasn't Timothy Leary. It was 1114 00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:01.599 like Terrence. I wonder if it's his brother a cousin. 1115 00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:04.559 I haven't looked into it, but it was two books 1116 00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:06.519 and one the first book was great, and the second 1117 00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:09.559 book was all about how you cultivate mushrooms. And I 1118 00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:10.760 was like, I don't want to listen to this while 1119 00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:13.000 I'm driving. I need to like sit down and like 1120 00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:15.800 understand because it just tells you the basics how to 1121 00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:17.679 set everything up, and it did. You can't taint it 1122 00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:19.400 unless you're like looking at it, you know what I mean. 1123 00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:20.440 I can. 1124 00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:22.400 I can give you the full fucking process as far 1125 00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:23.119 as outside goes. 1126 00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:24.199 Bro I live in Michigan. 1127 00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:27.199 So like when you grow tubs and they start getting mold, 1128 00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:30.199 that's when you toss them. So just for ships and giggles, dude, 1129 00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:31.679 I would just take that shit and bury it outside 1130 00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:33.159 and see if new stuff you're close. 1131 00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:36.880 To where there's there is there is an opportunity where 1132 00:47:36.920 --> 00:47:39.400 we could all hang out. That's what's crazy, because you 1133 00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:42.320 are I'm I'm in fucking Southern Ontario there because me 1134 00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:44.119 and Anton really wanted. 1135 00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:45.559 To do an honorary Southern Ontario. 1136 00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:48.840 Yeah, so like, man, there's a way to Troy, Michigan. 1137 00:47:48.920 --> 00:47:50.559 So I'm like right on the border going in here 1138 00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:51.679 in Buffalo though. 1139 00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:53.599 We're so close, we're like literally an hour and a 1140 00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:54.599 half away from each other. 1141 00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:56.760 I see Canada every day on my way to work. 1142 00:47:57.360 --> 00:47:59.280 The first can It every time I go down to 1143 00:47:59.280 --> 00:47:59.559 the city. 1144 00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:04.159 Canada on the other side, Like hello Canada, Canada, it 1145 00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:05.760 was cool until Trudeau took over. 1146 00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:08.119 Tom and I had a plan at one point when 1147 00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:10.519 we first started doing this together that it was during 1148 00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:11.920 the middle of COVID and we were going to go 1149 00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:14.119 over to the you know the things you put the 1150 00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:16.199 quarter in and the view finders and what have you. 1151 00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:18.639 We're going to hold up a sign and like film 1152 00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:20.400 it and shit be like, yeah. 1153 00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:23.239 Here is hey guy. Fuck you. 1154 00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:27.280 Oh hey, you an old fairness dude. 1155 00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:28.440 From wherever we're at in Detroit. 1156 00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:31.119 You could probably honestly jump in the water swim over 1157 00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:33.039 there in like ten minutes and nobody would even notice you. 1158 00:48:33.119 --> 00:48:35.159 And you'd be like, I'm in Canada. I'm in Michigan. 1159 00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:38.000 You're probably Anton's about an hour and like half an 1160 00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.360 an hour and a half. Like I've like from like 1161 00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:43.400 where he is from me about hour forty five. Maybe 1162 00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:46.239 if you include traffics like that, you might be even closer. 1163 00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:49.880 I'm old enough to remember when a there was a 1164 00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:52.280 time where I could just go to Canada when I like, 1165 00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:54.039 without a special ID or anything like that. 1166 00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:55.199 Sixteen year old MEI. 1167 00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:57.480 They're just like yep, go ahead, like okay. And we 1168 00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:00.320 also used to take wheels, used to take a boat 1169 00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:04.199 on Lake Ontario and go from the States to Canada, 1170 00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:06.239 and all you ever had to do is be like, yeah, I'm. 1171 00:49:06.119 --> 00:49:07.960 Docked over here to see you. 1172 00:49:08.039 --> 00:49:09.800 Now you can't come to another state. 1173 00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:12.039 Yeah yeah it was, and and the thing is now 1174 00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:16.400 you can't unless you're from another country. Not gonna get 1175 00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:20.119 into fucking my views on fuck face, black face, but 1176 00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:23.039 the first record use of silicide mushrooms three minutes. 1177 00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:26.239 It's gonna happen many, like even in years from now. 1178 00:49:26.360 --> 00:49:28.880 Everyone remember there was a piece of shit that run 1179 00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:31.840 ran Canada and he did it for way too long. 1180 00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:34.480 Oh no, that's no judgment. That's just my personal enjoyment. 1181 00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:36.440 I love Cluar always like how do we keep this show? 1182 00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:40.840 Kind of like where it's it's timeless in aspect, but 1183 00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:43.119 I'm like, I can't help but mention what's happening in 1184 00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:45.719 my country because it's crazy the stuff that is happening 1185 00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:48.480 in Canada and even the States. But like Hannah's becoming 1186 00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:51.480 like authoritarianism and like, oh yeah, go kill yourself, you 1187 00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:52.079 have mental health. 1188 00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:54.599 It's tons of fucking crazy shit that's happening in this country. 1189 00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:58.079 So the first record use of silicide mushrooms dates back 1190 00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:02.280 to around seven thousand BCE, which is crazy, and I 1191 00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:04.599 would like to get a Patriot episode about fucking Christ 1192 00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:07.639 and stuff like that from paintings found in that tin 1193 00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:12.760 Tin Tanza Tanza riff rock, which I think is that. 1194 00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:15.880 I'm pretty sure it's this image that was showing earlier, 1195 00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:20.239 which is crazy, and this was an Algeria. These rock 1196 00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:24.920 paintings depict several images of humanoid figures holding mushrooms that 1197 00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:28.840 actually might be this one. I looked and there's so 1198 00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:32.000 and I've tried, like there's there's statues, there is one. 1199 00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:33.880 I was gonna say that's the fucking garden, but. 1200 00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:36.920 That's There's so many different things and I looked for 1201 00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:40.400 in our angient culture, and I've thought this this might 1202 00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:44.079 be it also though, because that's. 1203 00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:48.480 Seen the mushroom man one. What that's like the mushrooms 1204 00:50:48.480 --> 00:50:50.000 growing on his shoulders. It's supposed to be one of 1205 00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:52.920 the earliest like ideas of like an entity based on mushrooms. 1206 00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:58.320 No, this might be it also because this looks. 1207 00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:00.719 Like a face and then mushrooms growing on his shoulders. 1208 00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:01.800 I looked everywhere for. 1209 00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:05.800 Images that we could show, and there's like Google's Google, right, Oh, 1210 00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:10.280 this one, that one yep. Yeah, that's crazy cool and 1211 00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:11.880 he's got dick big old did. 1212 00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:14.480 That was one of the first like known like mushroom 1213 00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:15.960 entity like depictions. 1214 00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:19.480 That's crazy. I bet you someone fucking saw this show. 1215 00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:21.639 Was that a Terrice his wife? 1216 00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:24.800 No, No, that drew that go back to the picture, 1217 00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:28.360 Kat Garson McKenna. 1218 00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:32.599 I was gonna I was gonna be like, I don't 1219 00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:34.320 really know who would marry. 1220 00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:36.079 If anyone's sucking the mushroom, it's Paul Stamon. 1221 00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:37.039 Who would marry this guy? 1222 00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:38.360 What do you mean who? 1223 00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:41.159 The man is a fucking like extremely well educated. 1224 00:51:41.559 --> 00:51:41.719 Uh. 1225 00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:43.440 He does look like a cross between Tommy Chong and 1226 00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:45.320 Allen Ginsburg, but that's true. 1227 00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:45.760 Uh. 1228 00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:50.039 He also that dude has talked to interdimensional elf interchangeable 1229 00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:52.480 construct beings like. 1230 00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:54.800 I'm gonna get there. I'm gonna get there. I'm gonna 1231 00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:56.360 fucking I want you. 1232 00:51:56.440 --> 00:51:59.599 Done your five dry grams in silent darkness. Tom No, 1233 00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:02.960 I antalk keep saying that ship seven, Homie seven exactly, 1234 00:52:03.039 --> 00:52:04.440 That's what I'm That's what I'm doing next. 1235 00:52:04.519 --> 00:52:09.559 And Homie from fucking uh Realities are Show. I liked him. 1236 00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:11.800 Uh he fucking he was saying that. 1237 00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:14.639 Uh, he was saying that he used to do like 1238 00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:16.519 these are five six grams and mushrooms and ride a 1239 00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:18.639 subway and I was like, fucking no thanks. 1240 00:52:18.679 --> 00:52:20.159 In Portland, I was crazy. 1241 00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:23.320 I want to imagine who That's what I'm saying. 1242 00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:25.320 Look at the homeless guy like fucking like eight No, 1243 00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:27.000 I couldn't imagine doing that ship. 1244 00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:28.840 And then that's one. I'm like, there's set set up. 1245 00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:32.679 When I've tried, I've tripped balls on public transport before, not. 1246 00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:34.119 On mushrooms, and it's not a good time. 1247 00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:39.400 And I love everybody's gonna stab I love you anyways. 1248 00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:41.320 Let alone you're on mushrooms, you especially feel like the 1249 00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:43.039 old lady and sitting next to you or the lady 1250 00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:45.599 with the ball full the baby and stab you. 1251 00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:51.360 In Toronto Trump other other animals know when you're tripping, 1252 00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:53.559 like is that next cats will. 1253 00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:54.239 Look directly at me. 1254 00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:55.960 That time that I saw the oonie on my pillow 1255 00:52:55.960 --> 00:52:57.400 when I was doing the d MT bro, my cats 1256 00:52:57.400 --> 00:52:58.639 were looking right at that ship too. 1257 00:52:58.679 --> 00:52:59.400 I know they saw that. 1258 00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:02.159 In all the the drop and assid and go into 1259 00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:03.599 the woods and ship. We used to also like drop 1260 00:53:03.599 --> 00:53:06.280 ascid and go fishing. And I've never caught more fish 1261 00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:08.320 in my entire life than when I'm tripping and there's 1262 00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:10.400 always one or two deer that come by, and rather 1263 00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:11.960 than be skittish, just stop and just. 1264 00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:14.559 It's fucking weird, Like what's up with you? Like I've 1265 00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:17.639 done a bunch of mushrooms? Now, yeah, it's it's because. 1266 00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:20.119 Like imagine that on the fucking bus around the subway, 1267 00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:22.960 you know that one unhinged crazy person is looking. 1268 00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:24.639 Directly at you, going, oh yeah, I got one. 1269 00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:25.519 Yeah, don't know. 1270 00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:28.079 You're on the same mental plane as me, aren't. 1271 00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:29.800 You them too? 1272 00:53:29.960 --> 00:53:30.199 God? 1273 00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:32.840 No, no, no, no, that's that's what's crazy, because like 1274 00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:35.480 even like my cat, Like even Chelsea was like, Laya 1275 00:53:35.559 --> 00:53:37.400 looks like some sort of like we have. We used 1276 00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:39.320 to have a cat named Luke and lay and Luke died, 1277 00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:43.119 but like she even said, like she's like, it's crazy. 1278 00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:45.719 They look like a more static and stuff like that. 1279 00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:49.239 And there was one time where like Charlie, he seeing 1280 00:53:49.280 --> 00:53:51.280 my dog, seems to know when I'm a mushrooms. We've 1281 00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:53.119 actually had like the one day I was home alone 1282 00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:54.840 and I did fucking I told Anton, I was like, 1283 00:53:54.840 --> 00:53:57.119 I'm gonna wake up and do a bunch of mushrooms. 1284 00:53:57.199 --> 00:54:00.199 I did, and then I like laid there, like we 1285 00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:02.559 had like a bonding moment. But like there was one 1286 00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:04.159 time where me and Chelsea were tip and she went 1287 00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:06.519 to the washroom and I was tripping balls and he 1288 00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:09.400 was in my lap just like like doing normal dog shit. 1289 00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:11.159 But I was tripping out because he looked like he 1290 00:54:11.239 --> 00:54:14.039 was spazzing out, and I was like, and it looked 1291 00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:16.960 weird in my He looked like some sort of like 1292 00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:19.280 cryptid creature, like almost like. 1293 00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:22.760 Sin to throw into the whole animal thing. 1294 00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:25.119 This cat right here already when I first got him, 1295 00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:27.760 he was like an abused cat. And I connected with 1296 00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:29.920 him because I was tripping balls, dude, and I laid 1297 00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:32.039 on the floor and I pet him for like three hours, dude. 1298 00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:35.400 And his face was so perfectly like symmetrical and looked 1299 00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:36.280 like geometrically. 1300 00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:38.239 It was just like the weirdest thing I've ever seen, bro. 1301 00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:40.360 Like it was like I don't even know how to 1302 00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:42.280 explain it unless you're on psychedelics. But it was like 1303 00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:45.599 I could see like him himself, you know. 1304 00:54:47.559 --> 00:54:49.199 The buildings that make them up. 1305 00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:51.719 But I like didn't just see him pass the cat, 1306 00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:54.000 like I swear, like I saw his like consciousness like 1307 00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:55.440 inside of the cat like. 1308 00:54:55.480 --> 00:54:58.599 It was just there's some things like its into ship 1309 00:54:58.760 --> 00:55:01.599 like uh, and we'll get into it on on. I 1310 00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:03.320 think maybe if we do a live about this stuff, 1311 00:55:03.320 --> 00:55:05.360 like I told Anton, like I just did that seven 1312 00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:09.880 grad tea and I like, my my my aunt has died. 1313 00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:13.760 So my grandparents died, like my grandma mother died and 1314 00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:16.280 my grandfather was in like a long term care and 1315 00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:18.880 then he died not shortly after. And then and this 1316 00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:20.840 is all on my mom's side of the family, and 1317 00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:23.800 there's only like a handful of us left. And then 1318 00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:26.880 my aunt died because she had abused alcohol and stuff 1319 00:55:26.880 --> 00:55:30.159 like that and got a tumor. And then my uncle 1320 00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:33.880 died around the same time, her brother from a drug overdose. 1321 00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:37.280 All these people died around a three year period. And 1322 00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:40.559 I did a huge dose of mushrooms. And I wasn't 1323 00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:43.079 there because of COVID and stuff like that. Of being 1324 00:55:43.079 --> 00:55:44.880 able to be there for my aunt here, no one 1325 00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:47.079 was because the way COVID was going, we weren't able 1326 00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:48.880 to see her. And she would text me stuff while 1327 00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:52.440 she was like delirious, And I said, I had this 1328 00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:55.440 crazy experience where I swear to God, I was like, 1329 00:55:55.480 --> 00:55:57.519 where are you guys? Like, I don't like if you 1330 00:55:57.519 --> 00:56:00.079 guys had another reality. When I was tripping balls and 1331 00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:03.400 I heard my aunt's voice say I'm here and it 1332 00:56:03.559 --> 00:56:05.159 fuck it, I was like, is this in my head? 1333 00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:06.840 Like I start tripping, I was like, is this in 1334 00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:09.760 my head? Like one of my It was crazy. The 1335 00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:13.079 things you can experience on mushrooms is beyond our comprehension. 1336 00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:16.360 That actually led me into the other question that I had, 1337 00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:18.599 which is if you guys have ever had like psychic 1338 00:56:18.639 --> 00:56:20.119 experiences while tripping. 1339 00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:22.079 That's what I was literally about to say. 1340 00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:24.719 Bro, there was this time sit there when I was 1341 00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:26.920 tripping that I would do this thing with my friends 1342 00:56:26.920 --> 00:56:28.199 and they were able to do it too. Bro. I mean, 1343 00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:29.760 I still don't even know how to explain this, because 1344 00:56:29.800 --> 00:56:33.480 you and we'd be able to still like feel and 1345 00:56:33.519 --> 00:56:35.280 see like the room around us, and we'd have one 1346 00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:37.360 person to be like put up numbers with their fingers 1347 00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:39.280 and we get them right like every fucking time. 1348 00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:39.599 Dude. 1349 00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:41.159 It was like the creepiest thing ever, Like you can 1350 00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:42.840 get like a full feel of your serados and I 1351 00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:43.400 should try. 1352 00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:44.159 Absolutely. 1353 00:56:44.440 --> 00:56:48.280 We've had like full on like not not like a 1354 00:56:48.320 --> 00:56:52.239 full conversation, but a full communication before with just looking 1355 00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:52.880 at each other. 1356 00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:55.960 That's, you know, while while tripping and stuff, and it's. 1357 00:56:55.840 --> 00:56:58.119 I've had a visions on mushrooms too, twice of being 1358 00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:00.199 the same person at two different times, and I was 1359 00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:01.719 like a viking, like mushroom shaman. 1360 00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:01.920 Dude. 1361 00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:04.079 It was fucking weird. It was like our past. 1362 00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:07.440 It was so hard that I couldn't see anything besides 1363 00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:07.880 this vision. 1364 00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:08.079 Dude. 1365 00:57:08.119 --> 00:57:08.760 It was fucking weird. 1366 00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:10.960 It's crazy. That's where I want to get. I'll keep 1367 00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:13.119 fucking reaching for it. I'm gonna like and. 1368 00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:16.039 I was a seven grammar. That was a heroic dose. See, 1369 00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:18.199 and I've done that. I've done a six point it 1370 00:57:18.239 --> 00:57:20.760 was like six point five or something like that tea, 1371 00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:24.480 which I have noticed, right obviously from not doing the 1372 00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:26.960 tea because of deluci to an extent of just eating 1373 00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:30.360 them raw, my trip lasts longer, obviously, and you have 1374 00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:33.679 like more vivid experiences, right. 1375 00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:36.039 I don't know about you guys, but I always get 1376 00:57:36.119 --> 00:57:38.760 like puky from when I eat, like the actual matters. 1377 00:57:38.760 --> 00:57:41.000 So I always do t tech just because it gets 1378 00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:41.440 rid of that. 1379 00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:44.000 Like I've had stomach shit. 1380 00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:47.119 I get I say, I have pretty bad stomach issues, 1381 00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:47.599 and I was like. 1382 00:57:47.559 --> 00:57:49.639 It will go away after an hour about an hour, 1383 00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:54.239 how do you start tripping balls hardest? Look, I've never 1384 00:57:54.280 --> 00:57:54.920 thrown up yet. 1385 00:57:55.159 --> 00:57:57.840 Yeah, I would throw up every single time I'd eat him, bro, 1386 00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:00.159 But I always know that right after I puked, I'd 1387 00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:02.119 be looking in the toilet and everything will go geometric 1388 00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:03.719 and that's when the trip like sortaty hit. 1389 00:58:03.800 --> 00:58:06.320 We'll bring that up. I got lot of stuff to 1390 00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:09.400 go through. Uh, So let's near the end. I want 1391 00:58:09.400 --> 00:58:12.039 to ask you guys about the mirror thing, if you 1392 00:58:12.079 --> 00:58:12.840 ever looked at yourself? 1393 00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:13.480 But wait for that. 1394 00:58:14.360 --> 00:58:17.679 So obviously there's depictings you have, like obviously ancient k 1395 00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:19.960 I knew this would happen because we've all experience mushrooms, 1396 00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:21.920 so that it's like, whoa have you had this experience? 1397 00:58:23.159 --> 00:58:27.159 But of course this. 1398 00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:30.159 Cannot be obviously taken as a evidence of like you know, 1399 00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:34.480 these these paintings that maybe they use psychedelic mushrooms. But 1400 00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:38.880 also it's given why uh, but given how widespread magic 1401 00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:42.599 mushrooms have been used throughout history, it seems unlikely that 1402 00:58:42.760 --> 00:58:45.679 it's not the case kind of thing, right, So throughout 1403 00:58:45.719 --> 00:58:49.280 this first recorded evidence of human use of psychedelic mushrooms, 1404 00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:52.559 we can speculate that they have been used longer than 1405 00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:57.039 these paintings even suggest. In fact, Terence mckinna, you know, 1406 00:58:57.199 --> 00:59:00.000 the guy looks like he's ready to eat some cheese 1407 00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:00.760 all the time. 1408 00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:04.719 For both I just getna get a milk steak with 1409 00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:06.639 jilly beans on the side. 1410 00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:09.440 I love Terrece Wikina, but like he does look like 1411 00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:10.559 some sort of rat creature. 1412 00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:16.159 I loved the way he talks, voice his body perfectly. 1413 00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:19.679 It's sound true. I am a rat, I am a mouse. 1414 00:59:19.719 --> 00:59:22.880 But his voice is weirdly enticing. That is, he's one 1415 00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:25.159 of those voices that's like a very nerdy guy's voice. 1416 00:59:25.159 --> 00:59:26.719 But you could listen to that shit for like four 1417 00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:27.400 hours easily. 1418 00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:29.199 Also, I don't know that anyone's checked it out, but 1419 00:59:29.199 --> 00:59:31.559 I'm gonna show it. There's a podcast called It existed 1420 00:59:31.599 --> 00:59:33.320 for a long time, but it's Psychic Salon. 1421 00:59:34.239 --> 00:59:34.679 It's great. 1422 00:59:34.679 --> 00:59:36.519 I've listened to a bunch of episodes. I went back 1423 00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:39.719 because they have like recordings of Timothy Leary and Terrence 1424 00:59:39.800 --> 00:59:42.920 McKenna and all these other psychonauts from like the sixty seventies. 1425 00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:44.639 Probably it was probably. 1426 00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:46.440 Around like the eighties by the time they were actually 1427 00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:49.440 recording this stuff. But it's pretty interesting because all this 1428 00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:52.760 stuff is like there's talks of Terrence mckinna like uh 1429 00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:57.360 in like colleges and Timothy Leary at Harvard and so 1430 00:59:57.599 --> 00:59:59.519 it's it's I showed psychic Salon. 1431 00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:00.440 It's fucking sick. 1432 01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:02.440 And I only knew about that because Joe Rogan mentioned 1433 01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:03.880 it and I was like, oh, and I look into 1434 01:00:03.880 --> 01:00:06.599 that and it was it was fucking crazy man. 1435 01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:10.800 So yes, I was just say. 1436 01:00:10.840 --> 01:00:14.400 My two favorite Soaks voices to listen to are Alan 1437 01:00:14.440 --> 01:00:15.960 Watts and Robert anteon Love. 1438 01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:19.000 I love Alan Watts with you have no idea that guy, 1439 01:00:19.079 --> 01:00:20.559 He's got me through so much fucking bullshit. 1440 01:00:20.679 --> 01:00:22.800 They both have very cigarette soaked vocals. 1441 01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:25.440 I love it, obviously. 1442 01:00:25.519 --> 01:00:29.119 So Terence McKinnon propos was the idea that human consciousness, 1443 01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:32.039 maybe it was made possible by ingesting these fun guy 1444 01:00:32.360 --> 01:00:36.639 more of this shortly, as well as obviously spreading far back, 1445 01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:40.719 Psilocybin mushrooms have been used obviously in a broad geographical 1446 01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:43.760 spread of around the world. Right so in fact, these 1447 01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:46.440 mushals appear to have been eaten wherever they were grown. 1448 01:00:46.559 --> 01:00:51.360 Much in obviously we have South and East Asia religious 1449 01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:56.440 imagery appearing obviously that it influenced mushrooms Vikings, as Shane's 1450 01:00:56.519 --> 01:00:58.679 kind of been talked about him thinking he was a 1451 01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:02.159 Viking fruit of the gods. Yes, proposed, Uh, they actually 1452 01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:07.159 they reported in stuff that taking I am a mascaria, 1453 01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:10.400 which is sounds crazy. 1454 01:01:11.239 --> 01:01:13.360 That's the red and white cap one. 1455 01:01:13.480 --> 01:01:14.679 Right, there's another one that's. 1456 01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:16.360 Yeah. 1457 01:01:16.519 --> 01:01:19.840 And when they be filtered through a reindeer first, Yes, 1458 01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:21.039 that's the whole thing connection. 1459 01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:24.599 Actually, yeah, I was gonna say, it's actually a neurotoxin. 1460 01:01:24.679 --> 01:01:27.119 It's not actually psilocybin, so it's a totally different like 1461 01:01:27.199 --> 01:01:30.480 chemical compound that creates it. But if you ingest it yourself, 1462 01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:32.320 it's a neurotoxin and it's not good for you to 1463 01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:34.800 fox you up. But if reindeer ingest it and then 1464 01:01:34.840 --> 01:01:37.079 you drink your urine, it pushes it out, but it 1465 01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:39.400 filters out the neurotoxin parts and then you get a trip. 1466 01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:45.079 It's more of like a drunk like psychedelic a normal one. 1467 01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:47.039 I don't give a fuck. 1468 01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:53.039 I've seen atmosphere these art exhibits where they'll actually have 1469 01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:55.239 reindeer eating aminita and they'll just give out reindeer pists 1470 01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:56.480 for people to drink, and they do it as like 1471 01:01:56.559 --> 01:01:57.679 art exhibits. 1472 01:01:57.480 --> 01:02:02.199 That sounds fucking awesome, fucking crazy, which is fucking nuts, 1473 01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:03.760 and that will be coming down the road because I 1474 01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:06.079 do want to do our Christmas episode about that this year. 1475 01:02:07.079 --> 01:02:07.960 But druids are a. 1476 01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:13.679 Thought to have eaten uh the the these caps, oh, 1477 01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:24.159 this is fucking libertarian caps, liberty caps, psilocybin semi semi lencintia, 1478 01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:26.119 and so what I can't pronounce with. 1479 01:02:26.119 --> 01:02:28.199 The those are I think the little wood dwellers I'm 1480 01:02:28.199 --> 01:02:29.800 not mistake and the ones that girl on wood and 1481 01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:32.199 they're like crazy fucking strong that it's like one gram 1482 01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:33.159 is like a dose. 1483 01:02:33.159 --> 01:02:35.960 Well okay, and getting into even like Paul Samas stuff 1484 01:02:35.960 --> 01:02:36.119 like that. 1485 01:02:36.199 --> 01:02:38.840 He's like about how he he's like obviously through his 1486 01:02:39.239 --> 01:02:43.440 life is experienced all sorts of psychedelics, looked for them 1487 01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:47.199 and looked for mushrooms, specifically where him and his brother 1488 01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:50.239 at one point actually coined a certain strength camera which 1489 01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:52.679 one it was, and they found it and they brought 1490 01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:54.920 it home and this is one of his famous stories 1491 01:02:54.920 --> 01:02:58.280 that he told in Shoe Rogan and that he ingested it. 1492 01:02:58.360 --> 01:03:01.880 So they picked up bunch and this is the one 1493 01:03:01.880 --> 01:03:06.599 where he had the premonition that all these animals would 1494 01:03:06.599 --> 01:03:09.800 be dead, and they he marked down the end of 1495 01:03:09.800 --> 01:03:12.119 the world, and then within a week. 1496 01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:14.920 The next week he drove there was a huge drought 1497 01:03:14.920 --> 01:03:15.360 that happened. 1498 01:03:15.360 --> 01:03:18.719 He had a vision of all these animals being dead 1499 01:03:19.760 --> 01:03:22.239 and he drove past it. After this drought happened and 1500 01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:25.920 all these animals died. It's like a crazy story. But 1501 01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:28.599 he talks about how they found a certain strain and 1502 01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:31.760 they had to take twenty grams. He's like, they just 1503 01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:33.760 kept eating him to get the same effect that it 1504 01:03:33.760 --> 01:03:37.480 would be for ten eight, nine, ten grams. So imagine 1505 01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:41.079 how this sit there and eat that many to get 1506 01:03:41.119 --> 01:03:42.440 the same effect. 1507 01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:45.679 Stamens has eaten so many mushrooms that it's nothing for him. 1508 01:03:46.920 --> 01:03:49.000 He hasn't died, man, Like, that's crazy. 1509 01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:53.199 I fucking this after talking about this, man, I don't know, 1510 01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:56.800 I'd stay up tonight and fucking dude. So the earliest 1511 01:03:56.800 --> 01:04:00.719 evidence of magic mushrooms used it It was a mural 1512 01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:04.079 that was found in Northern Australia which depicts mushrooms and 1513 01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:08.280 psychedelic illustrations, which I do think it's either this image 1514 01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:11.719 that we're showing now or I it might be this 1515 01:04:11.800 --> 01:04:17.400 one because there's two prominent images. Uh that we get 1516 01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:21.480 this idea that obviously magic willships have existed for so long. 1517 01:04:21.440 --> 01:04:23.360 This one would probably be no, the second. I would 1518 01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:24.639 assume it would be the first one, not the second 1519 01:04:24.679 --> 01:04:26.679 one if we're talking in Australia, because yes, that's what 1520 01:04:26.800 --> 01:04:29.880 it was. That's white folk and we're talking about Aboriginal tribes. 1521 01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:32.960 So plus another one is Garden of Eden that's just 1522 01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:34.960 heavily like western you know. 1523 01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:37.000 And and and I was talking to a dude at 1524 01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:39.440 work about this because like I work with everyone, like 1525 01:04:39.719 --> 01:04:42.079 I work with the guy that like he he works 1526 01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:44.440 in he's a Jehovah witness, but he doesn't like he practiced. 1527 01:04:44.440 --> 01:04:45.480 He doesn't really practice it. 1528 01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:47.159 He's like he just works out all the time and 1529 01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:50.440 you know, smokes weed and he actually does mushrooms too. 1530 01:04:50.639 --> 01:04:53.039 I gave him some, Uh, he bought some of the 1531 01:04:53.039 --> 01:04:53.920 Golden Teachers off me. 1532 01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:54.559 He still has some. 1533 01:04:55.039 --> 01:04:57.519 And it's interesting because I'm like the one that's not 1534 01:04:57.559 --> 01:05:00.280 really religious. And I said to the one dude and 1535 01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:02.280 he's like really Christian but believes it comes from. 1536 01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:04.599 His heart or whatever, blah blah, and uh. 1537 01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:07.599 And the funny thing is Anton, guess what he has 1538 01:05:07.639 --> 01:05:10.519 a gay brother, just like how you have a very 1539 01:05:10.599 --> 01:05:13.000 religious brother, And I said it was I was like, 1540 01:05:13.039 --> 01:05:16.760 it's kind of funny how uh, how very religious people 1541 01:05:16.840 --> 01:05:19.639 seem to have the brother that's like no gay or 1542 01:05:19.679 --> 01:05:22.480 something like that, because I think it it it's for 1543 01:05:22.519 --> 01:05:25.119 a reason to switch it should at least like have 1544 01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:27.599 them more accepting and switch their consciousness, you know what 1545 01:05:27.639 --> 01:05:27.960 I mean? 1546 01:05:29.519 --> 01:05:34.920 Isn't that interesting? Isn't that weird? I remember that it's 1547 01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:38.559 just like people he's a Christian Orthodox, isn't he. 1548 01:05:38.519 --> 01:05:42.360 Like Eastern Eastern Orthodoxy? 1549 01:05:42.360 --> 01:05:42.599 See? 1550 01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:45.159 And the guy I work with this super like Christian 1551 01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:47.679 and his brothers also grey. So I was like the 1552 01:05:47.760 --> 01:05:50.559 parallels almost of like you know what I mean of 1553 01:05:50.599 --> 01:05:53.000 like that, it seems like people are super religious, like 1554 01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:56.440 it almost like whatever reality does is put someone in 1555 01:05:56.480 --> 01:05:57.400 a specific place. 1556 01:05:58.360 --> 01:06:02.000 Eastern Orthodoxy is for people who are gigantic fucking nerds, 1557 01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:04.599 and like Christianity. 1558 01:06:04.800 --> 01:06:07.920 I just thought that was just like learnless. It's like okay. 1559 01:06:07.960 --> 01:06:09.480 But I told him, I was like, oh, there's a 1560 01:06:09.519 --> 01:06:13.880 theory that like essentially that the whole religious construct was 1561 01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:16.760 actually just from a mushroom. And he was like, oh maybe, 1562 01:06:16.880 --> 01:06:18.880 I'm like, like you believe all the stuff that you're 1563 01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:20.719 told through a fucking book that was written by. 1564 01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:23.559 Then, the talk convincing a woman to eat an apple, 1565 01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:25.599 That's that's fucking perfectly normal. 1566 01:06:25.599 --> 01:06:26.880 But you being like, well, maybe you. 1567 01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:29.000 Know, these psychedelic experiences that people have back in the 1568 01:06:29.079 --> 01:06:32.000 day may have led to them structuring their beliefs, you know, 1569 01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:35.239 which are of course just a smattering of other beliefs 1570 01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:37.360 that were taking text and the. 1571 01:06:37.320 --> 01:06:40.119 Burning fucking bush. How is that psychedelics? 1572 01:06:40.360 --> 01:06:42.159 Oh yeah, exactly, Yeah. 1573 01:06:41.960 --> 01:06:42.599 Fucking crazy. 1574 01:06:42.639 --> 01:06:45.960 So obviously this goes through what fuck it, our prominent history. 1575 01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:49.199 The earliest evidence was that the depictions and I do 1576 01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:53.480 think it's this one from the depictions of these these 1577 01:06:53.880 --> 01:06:57.760 cave drawings. Archaeologists have dated it back to ten thousand BCE. 1578 01:06:58.440 --> 01:07:01.280 Rock paintings in Spain suggest the magic mushrooms were around 1579 01:07:01.480 --> 01:07:07.039 and around prehistoric hit people in Europe around four thousand BCE. 1580 01:07:07.559 --> 01:07:11.000 Magic mushrooms have since obviously, like I said, been in 1581 01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:14.079 our civilation for civilization for about twelve thousand years ago, 1582 01:07:14.719 --> 01:07:17.039 and possibly used me even before then. It was also 1583 01:07:17.079 --> 01:07:22.239 obviously used by Aztecs and rituals, including hallucinogenic substance known 1584 01:07:22.320 --> 01:07:26.400 as called the God the flesh of the gods, which 1585 01:07:26.440 --> 01:07:28.559 we mentioned earlier, where that's where they took it from. 1586 01:07:28.599 --> 01:07:31.360 That it might have also been shrooms. They don't necessarily know, 1587 01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:33.079 but it probably was. 1588 01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:35.239 Shit. 1589 01:07:35.320 --> 01:07:37.320 They are they not saying it was aliens. 1590 01:07:37.679 --> 01:07:40.159 They thought mushrooms were given to them from one of 1591 01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:42.280 their gods. Don't know how to fucking say the name, 1592 01:07:42.280 --> 01:07:45.039 but it's x O C H I P I L 1593 01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:47.280 L I like brain fart on how to say it? 1594 01:07:47.559 --> 01:07:49.440 Yeah, Oh no, I do that all the time, don't 1595 01:07:49.480 --> 01:07:51.320 you worry. I constantly I want. 1596 01:07:51.199 --> 01:07:52.840 To attempt to try to try to butcher that name 1597 01:07:52.840 --> 01:07:54.519 because I know I'm gonna totally fuck it up. 1598 01:07:54.599 --> 01:07:57.440 See this is see that's the way I was talking about. 1599 01:07:57.480 --> 01:08:01.639 This is the thirteenth century uh Fresco depictures Adam and 1600 01:08:01.679 --> 01:08:04.400 Eve of the Tree of Knowledge, which that's the whole 1601 01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:06.519 idea of the Tree of Knowledge. Might just be someone 1602 01:08:06.679 --> 01:08:11.079 ingesting mushrooms and then like having like this these fruitions. 1603 01:08:11.239 --> 01:08:13.039 You know, it gets crazy, man, just. 1604 01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:16.520 A consciousness awakening of just realizing like the world around them, 1605 01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:20.159 you know, percent from a different perspective completely changes, like 1606 01:08:20.199 --> 01:08:21.039 how you view the world. 1607 01:08:21.319 --> 01:08:23.880 Yeah, and like I sent anton the pronunciation, but I 1608 01:08:23.880 --> 01:08:24.840 don't think he has pulled up. 1609 01:08:24.840 --> 01:08:27.239 But it's teooniak. 1610 01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:30.119 I'm not going to pronounce anyways, it's where did you? 1611 01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:32.880 I send it in text on the on our chat. 1612 01:08:32.960 --> 01:08:34.840 I'm using my I'm using my phone. 1613 01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:36.920 It's the language of the aztext. 1614 01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:41.159 It literally translates into god mushroom and this is it's 1615 01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:44.359 not it's not lightning because this is what they saw 1616 01:08:44.359 --> 01:08:47.000 it as, right, It's not that the Astecs, along with 1617 01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:50.720 other Central and set uh South American cultures, worship to 1618 01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:55.239 magic mushrooms. And uh, it's crazy because the huge, huge 1619 01:08:55.279 --> 01:09:00.960 amount of aztec icnography and sculptures depicting mushroom added beings 1620 01:09:01.640 --> 01:09:05.720 thought to be deities. We're everywhere, like, where's the one? 1621 01:09:06.039 --> 01:09:07.760 This is fucking crazier, is that want I have? It's 1622 01:09:07.800 --> 01:09:08.479 fucking nuts. 1623 01:09:09.039 --> 01:09:12.600 A little mushroom army, little stone mushroom army. Yeah, I 1624 01:09:12.760 --> 01:09:14.359 cut it out as imagery. I don't know where that 1625 01:09:14.880 --> 01:09:15.359 is now. 1626 01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:18.600 It makes me mad, But this is an example of it, obviously, 1627 01:09:19.319 --> 01:09:22.520 but fucking weird. There's like literally tons of them and 1628 01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:26.319 uh even yeah these literally these guys, these isn't my mine. 1629 01:09:26.399 --> 01:09:29.800 Mushroom stones in Guatemala. 1630 01:09:29.039 --> 01:09:32.680 There's a dog one too, so way on the left 1631 01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:33.560 middle row. 1632 01:09:33.640 --> 01:09:36.520 Oh yeah, it's crazy because they're worshiping this stuff. They 1633 01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:38.479 took it like because they would see this thing it'd 1634 01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:40.960 ingested and it would be like what their whole culture 1635 01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:45.640 would be like, uh, structured around to an extent because 1636 01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:47.399 it would give you and then the thing is that's 1637 01:09:47.399 --> 01:09:49.239 why I like, yeah, it could take you down a 1638 01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:50.319 weird path where you're. 1639 01:09:50.199 --> 01:09:52.640 Like, this is the thing that the gods gave us. 1640 01:09:52.760 --> 01:09:55.399 And then one guy's like, I had a vision that 1641 01:09:55.439 --> 01:09:59.199 we have to sacrifice the firstborn child to the gods. 1642 01:09:59.279 --> 01:10:02.000 And it's like, this guy's got it fucking crazy. 1643 01:10:02.039 --> 01:10:04.039 I just imagine somebody taking his shits on the mushrooms 1644 01:10:04.039 --> 01:10:06.520 then looking at a field of mushrooms and they all 1645 01:10:06.560 --> 01:10:08.359 grow those little faces, and all of them just start 1646 01:10:08.359 --> 01:10:13.000 telling you, yeah, yeah, man, like sacrifice your child, love everybody, 1647 01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:15.199 the world willpend. They all just have different voices, and 1648 01:10:15.199 --> 01:10:16.880 it's like, all right, I'm gonna pick that one that 1649 01:10:16.880 --> 01:10:18.640 looks like a dog. He's saying some evil shit, but 1650 01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:19.319 I think he's right. 1651 01:10:20.159 --> 01:10:24.039 Then you're Berkowitz fucking crazy. 1652 01:10:24.079 --> 01:10:26.319 It is so transmissions from serious Man. 1653 01:10:26.279 --> 01:10:30.359 So nuts Man, so Early Spanish Invaders observed and sometimes 1654 01:10:30.359 --> 01:10:34.039 actually partook in these mushroom ceremonies, and it appears that 1655 01:10:34.479 --> 01:10:38.760 it was a ritual and reserved mostly for upper classes 1656 01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:42.479 of Aztec societies, which eventually, even if Shane was going 1657 01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:44.720 I would like to dive into the Aztec cultures like that, 1658 01:10:44.760 --> 01:10:47.439 it would be everything in this show like ends up 1659 01:10:47.720 --> 01:10:50.199 branching off in a spiderweb to other things that we 1660 01:10:50.279 --> 01:10:53.199 could talk about, because obviously there's tons of all these 1661 01:10:53.359 --> 01:10:57.119 iconographies in it, and as high quality, high quantities of 1662 01:10:57.159 --> 01:10:59.399 these mushrooms were hard to come by, that's why it 1663 01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:02.239 was kind of struck sure for like the rich as 1664 01:11:02.279 --> 01:11:05.600 the way we're going with the World Economic Forum and yeah, 1665 01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:07.920 you're not gonna eat meat only Klaus Schwab can eat 1666 01:11:07.920 --> 01:11:08.720 meat kind of thing. 1667 01:11:09.159 --> 01:11:11.560 Well, so basically, if it's one of those like you know, 1668 01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:14.159 we know the benefit of taking these things, but if 1669 01:11:14.159 --> 01:11:17.800 the servant class ever learns that they're fucked so true, 1670 01:11:17.840 --> 01:11:19.520 then we might have a problem. 1671 01:11:19.600 --> 01:11:21.319 So let's just restrict it for us. 1672 01:11:21.520 --> 01:11:23.159 Well, so I was saying, I think they confuses me 1673 01:11:23.239 --> 01:11:25.399 the most about this whole decriminalizing thing is that I 1674 01:11:25.399 --> 01:11:28.000 feel like the main reason why they've like kept psychedelics 1675 01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:29.960 away from people and schedule them as like the worst 1676 01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:32.359 drugs is because they don't want people to work up 1677 01:11:32.840 --> 01:11:34.399 to wake up. So it's like, why the hell did 1678 01:11:34.399 --> 01:11:35.479 they decriminalize them. 1679 01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:38.680 I have a theory is because the idea is that 1680 01:11:38.760 --> 01:11:42.479 big Farmer wants to take hold of psilocybin and essentially 1681 01:11:44.359 --> 01:11:48.279 synthesize it so it's created by big Pharma and then 1682 01:11:48.279 --> 01:11:50.640 so they can sell it. But the thing is, you 1683 01:11:50.720 --> 01:11:53.520 can't patent nature the same way you can't if the 1684 01:11:53.520 --> 01:11:56.640 coronavirus was created. If it was created by nature, you 1685 01:11:56.680 --> 01:11:58.960 can't patent it. And it was patent in two thousand 1686 01:11:58.960 --> 01:11:59.239 and one. 1687 01:11:59.560 --> 01:12:00.920 So how I know. 1688 01:12:01.279 --> 01:12:03.399 I know you're in Canada, but like, sweetie, this is America. 1689 01:12:03.439 --> 01:12:04.720 You can patent fucking anything. 1690 01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:07.399 I know. You can patent age. There's names on it. 1691 01:12:07.640 --> 01:12:08.119 They will. 1692 01:12:08.159 --> 01:12:10.840 There's a pattern for AIDS, patent for the fucking influenza, 1693 01:12:10.880 --> 01:12:13.239 there's a pattern for like every single disease known to man. 1694 01:12:13.920 --> 01:12:15.399 That was what I was saying though about the whole 1695 01:12:15.399 --> 01:12:16.359 weed thing. Brother, they're trying. 1696 01:12:16.359 --> 01:12:18.680 The tobacco thing, which we can get into further on now, 1697 01:12:18.840 --> 01:12:21.399 is like they're separating you from the spirituality of the plant. 1698 01:12:21.439 --> 01:12:24.239 So they start synthetically producing silicides. I didn't put anything 1699 01:12:24.279 --> 01:12:27.720 into the original plant obsolete. Then the spirituality is disconnecting. 1700 01:12:27.920 --> 01:12:28.840 They'll never be able to do that. 1701 01:12:28.880 --> 01:12:29.079 Now. 1702 01:12:29.359 --> 01:12:30.319 That's the thing about mushroom. 1703 01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:33.039 Even in weed though, but like mushrooms essentially because it 1704 01:12:33.039 --> 01:12:35.960 will grow on its own. My cillium grows underneath the 1705 01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:37.640 fucking earth, and they'll never be able. 1706 01:12:37.479 --> 01:12:39.319 To make it up like eighty percent of the fucking ground. 1707 01:12:39.319 --> 01:12:41.479 Bro It's fucking crazy. I love mushrooms, man. 1708 01:12:42.039 --> 01:12:44.760 But anyways, basically, people make sure you start running your 1709 01:12:44.800 --> 01:12:47.680 heirloom strains now, start growing them where you know where 1710 01:12:47.680 --> 01:12:49.520 they're from, and preserve them as much as possible. 1711 01:12:49.560 --> 01:12:52.039 So I act ills just a little trick for anybody. 1712 01:12:52.159 --> 01:12:54.079 So because this is some shit you can take home. 1713 01:12:54.119 --> 01:12:56.680 If you find some psychedelic strains and you want to 1714 01:12:56.760 --> 01:12:58.199 keep them and you just want to preserve them and 1715 01:12:58.199 --> 01:13:00.399 not have to worry about growing them, you take them 1716 01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:03.119 with a fresh head before the gills rip and the 1717 01:13:03.159 --> 01:13:05.520 sports drop. You put it on a piece of tinfoil, 1718 01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:07.560 put a glass cup over it, let it sit twenty 1719 01:13:07.600 --> 01:13:10.039 four hours. You'll get a nice little imprint of all 1720 01:13:10.079 --> 01:13:12.239 the spores. Close that shit up in tinfoil, boom, you 1721 01:13:12.279 --> 01:13:12.880 got it saved. 1722 01:13:13.000 --> 01:13:14.840 So that's that's crazy. 1723 01:13:15.239 --> 01:13:17.640 So when I'm grinding it up right and all that 1724 01:13:17.760 --> 01:13:21.720 like fucking smoke poof comes up. I are you able 1725 01:13:21.720 --> 01:13:23.159 to take that and then grow them again? 1726 01:13:23.319 --> 01:13:24.479 What you want to suck that in? 1727 01:13:24.960 --> 01:13:27.000 That's the spores, That's what I was talking about. That 1728 01:13:27.119 --> 01:13:29.439 dusting that you get that's on that tinfoil. We can 1729 01:13:29.439 --> 01:13:31.560 get into the process later on, but essentially you put 1730 01:13:31.600 --> 01:13:34.439 it into a liquid search and uh then you've it's 1731 01:13:34.439 --> 01:13:36.399 pretty much how you re germinate, and you know it's I. 1732 01:13:36.439 --> 01:13:38.680 Want to know how you do this because you have 1733 01:13:38.800 --> 01:13:40.880 like great knowledge on this stuff, and I want to 1734 01:13:40.880 --> 01:13:42.680 know it because I'm so I love mushrooms. 1735 01:13:42.720 --> 01:13:45.920 Man, They're my life now. And it's crazy because like 1736 01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:46.640 all that, Like and. 1737 01:13:46.640 --> 01:13:49.000 I joked, I do videos and me grinding them up 1738 01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:50.359 and make them my micro doses and stuff like that 1739 01:13:50.399 --> 01:13:52.880 from my like Instagram stores, and I like made a 1740 01:13:52.920 --> 01:13:54.800 joke where I was like, yeah, I've tried to inhale this. 1741 01:13:54.880 --> 01:13:57.720 It doesn't do anything because I've been like over like 1742 01:13:57.760 --> 01:14:00.720 the grinder, this is like nothing happens. Don't worry. 1743 01:14:01.319 --> 01:14:03.520 I don't mean, I just mean, like, don't let it go. 1744 01:14:03.560 --> 01:14:05.000 To waste no I inhale. 1745 01:14:05.039 --> 01:14:07.239 It liked because it's so like you have to carefully 1746 01:14:07.239 --> 01:14:10.640 open the lid and it goes poof fucking crazy, like 1747 01:14:10.720 --> 01:14:13.159 Johnny Knoxville when he's like farting over somebody's face. 1748 01:14:13.199 --> 01:14:16.000 You know, Oh my god, I love that fucking bit. 1749 01:14:16.520 --> 01:14:19.920 So don't be fooled and obviously imagining that just because 1750 01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:22.880 the societies took mushrooms, that they were totally peaceful and wonderful, 1751 01:14:23.359 --> 01:14:27.239 as we said earlier. One report claims that upon obviously, uh, 1752 01:14:27.319 --> 01:14:29.640 there was when they would actually have a new emperor. 1753 01:14:29.960 --> 01:14:33.319 Many prisoners were sacrificed, their flesh eaten and their hearts 1754 01:14:33.359 --> 01:14:37.359 cut out, and everyone took mushrooms. 1755 01:14:37.399 --> 01:14:40.399 Fucking crazy. There's nothing else, but I would be quite 1756 01:14:40.439 --> 01:14:41.399 a trip, you know. 1757 01:14:42.279 --> 01:14:44.680 I mean, I feel like you're killing me with that hair. 1758 01:14:45.119 --> 01:14:46.680 You just look so natural when you flip it, and 1759 01:14:46.680 --> 01:14:47.800 you've been flipping it this whole show. 1760 01:14:47.840 --> 01:14:48.720 Bro, I did have that. 1761 01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:50.880 You wonder why I randomly laught, It's because you're killing 1762 01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:51.119 me with that. 1763 01:14:51.279 --> 01:14:53.479 I don't know you should have ant I was making fun. 1764 01:14:53.560 --> 01:14:56.840 We did the Halloween special. I don't know if you 1765 01:14:56.880 --> 01:14:59.239 saw it, but I dressed like a hippie. Billy had 1766 01:14:59.279 --> 01:15:01.680 no costume, so I was like, you got a suit 1767 01:15:01.960 --> 01:15:03.079 and he was like yeah, And I was like, I'm 1768 01:15:03.079 --> 01:15:05.119 gonna get you clown makeup and you're gonna be Trudeau 1769 01:15:05.239 --> 01:15:07.680 and he was and it was The Halloween special was 1770 01:15:07.720 --> 01:15:10.239 probably some of the funniest, if that's a word, the 1771 01:15:10.239 --> 01:15:14.680 most funny ship we've ever done, just because the content. 1772 01:15:14.800 --> 01:15:17.439 It was just, man, the context of all the conversations 1773 01:15:17.479 --> 01:15:19.800 were right there, and uh, Billy didn't know what he 1774 01:15:19.840 --> 01:15:20.960 was going to be. And then I was like, and 1775 01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:22.640 we're putting the makeup on him, and I was like, man, 1776 01:15:22.680 --> 01:15:24.319 you look like scary. And then I took like a 1777 01:15:24.399 --> 01:15:26.399 granted mushrooms that were We're doing that and it was 1778 01:15:26.439 --> 01:15:26.960 a great time. 1779 01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:29.319 You couldn't even I couldn't even look at it. He 1780 01:15:29.439 --> 01:15:31.960 looked up and went over the camera and just the 1781 01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:32.800 makeup down through. 1782 01:15:33.880 --> 01:15:36.199 I couldn't even look at the dude. So the asked 1783 01:15:36.319 --> 01:15:39.239 the cover of the episode. I remember, yes, it was 1784 01:15:39.319 --> 01:15:41.279 just like, oh, man, fucking frightening. 1785 01:15:41.520 --> 01:15:43.960 The Aztecs were by no means the only interest of 1786 01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:48.159 indigenous cultures uh to take part obviously in these regulatory 1787 01:15:48.319 --> 01:15:53.239 like the regularly using psilocybin mushrooms uh obviously the best known, 1788 01:15:53.560 --> 01:15:55.079 but there they are the best known when it comes 1789 01:15:55.119 --> 01:15:57.079 to this stuff magic mushrooms. 1790 01:15:57.319 --> 01:15:57.520 Uh. 1791 01:15:57.560 --> 01:16:01.520 Psychedelics are to be used by also different cultures. Arguably 1792 01:16:01.640 --> 01:16:06.000 even the most famous is ayahuasca, UH, the mystical DMPTY 1793 01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:09.359 containing concoction that was used to communicate with the spirit world. 1794 01:16:09.600 --> 01:16:12.600 Because of this, psilocybin was used in religious and spiritual 1795 01:16:12.600 --> 01:16:16.199 ceremonies for a divination calling upon spirits, like if you 1796 01:16:16.199 --> 01:16:19.079 go back even to me and antonin a whole episode 1797 01:16:19.119 --> 01:16:21.760 about the scrying mirror, you know, the black mirror and 1798 01:16:21.800 --> 01:16:24.720 staring into it, and were it set us down? This 1799 01:16:24.720 --> 01:16:28.239 this talk about psychedelics, of that idea of like looking 1800 01:16:28.319 --> 01:16:30.920 into the different realms of stuff. 1801 01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:33.560 The reason why you can't get into the mirror realm 1802 01:16:33.640 --> 01:16:35.640 is because the other you on the other side is 1803 01:16:35.640 --> 01:16:37.119 blocking you as you push your hand in. 1804 01:16:37.359 --> 01:16:41.279 That's fucking good, you know crazy, So obviously. 1805 01:16:43.039 --> 01:16:44.920 You have to do that thing where you fucking envision. 1806 01:16:44.640 --> 01:16:47.239 Yourself shrinking and disappearing in the mirrors. 1807 01:16:47.239 --> 01:16:49.760 That's not I just imagine somebody trying to sneak up 1808 01:16:49.760 --> 01:16:51.079 on the mirror and they're doing that thing, or they 1809 01:16:51.079 --> 01:16:52.760 walk over the side and then they pop in real quick. 1810 01:16:54.960 --> 01:16:56.640 Yeah yeah, all right, I gotta I gotta get them 1811 01:16:56.640 --> 01:16:57.920 on this one quick and then you turn around they 1812 01:16:57.960 --> 01:17:02.479 try to spin real quickly, scary wack around. 1813 01:17:02.720 --> 01:17:04.880 So said, it was the one time you do it 1814 01:17:04.920 --> 01:17:08.720 and it works, and it's the most terrifying things. 1815 01:17:07.560 --> 01:17:09.359 That ripple ship. You see in movies where you touch 1816 01:17:09.399 --> 01:17:13.319 it and it's like water. So suppose on the other 1817 01:17:13.399 --> 01:17:14.800 side your bol like, what the fuck? 1818 01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:19.079 It was used for healing and an aesthetic, which I 1819 01:17:19.079 --> 01:17:22.760 think is crazy Antesia for paying, which I was like, 1820 01:17:23.079 --> 01:17:26.880 I guess, but it could make you feel every single thing. 1821 01:17:27.520 --> 01:17:28.680 That's why I won't smoke. 1822 01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:30.560 We can get a tattoo, man, you feel ship and 1823 01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:31.359 moment I've done. 1824 01:17:31.239 --> 01:17:34.079 That, it's so much it sucks, dude, I'm going to 1825 01:17:34.119 --> 01:17:36.159 tell and I was like, this is fucking horrible. I 1826 01:17:36.199 --> 01:17:38.279 would much rather just go into a sober because you can, 1827 01:17:38.359 --> 01:17:40.319 like you can trance out into the pain. 1828 01:17:40.439 --> 01:17:40.640 Yeah. 1829 01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:43.079 Yeah, it's you focus on it too much on your stone. 1830 01:17:43.079 --> 01:17:45.039 You can't do it on anything. I just will eat 1831 01:17:45.039 --> 01:17:46.680 it ships on a food going sober. 1832 01:17:48.680 --> 01:17:48.840 Man. 1833 01:17:48.880 --> 01:17:51.199 That's because I've definitely showed up at least a two 1834 01:17:51.239 --> 01:17:53.199 tattoo stone and it was not fun. 1835 01:17:54.600 --> 01:17:58.880 It was edibles even worse. I couldn't imagine psychedelics. I 1836 01:17:58.880 --> 01:18:01.720 imagine that like Musher, So that sounds fucking I would. 1837 01:18:01.640 --> 01:18:04.039 Rather chew a bunch of mushrooms than do a high 1838 01:18:04.039 --> 01:18:06.560 dose of edibles. I've had two experience where I felt. 1839 01:18:06.359 --> 01:18:08.600 Like I was dying, where I couldn't breathe, and it 1840 01:18:08.680 --> 01:18:11.600 was fucking man, Edibles, you do too much, fuck you up. 1841 01:18:12.079 --> 01:18:13.840 Just a fun experience, bro, that I got to share 1842 01:18:13.840 --> 01:18:18.840 on this show. Gabby, my girlfriend, she did some edibles 1843 01:18:19.039 --> 01:18:20.680 like a week or two ago, and I didn't know 1844 01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:22.560 she ate them, and we watched fourteen oh eight. Bro, 1845 01:18:22.840 --> 01:18:25.520 she was like, you know in that psychedelic mindset, dudeyah, 1846 01:18:25.520 --> 01:18:28.239 and she was like mind fucks and she was like she. 1847 01:18:28.239 --> 01:18:29.840 Fucking was like, all right, I'm done, I'm going to bed. 1848 01:18:29.960 --> 01:18:31.680 She came in and like laid on the bed sideways, 1849 01:18:31.680 --> 01:18:34.600 and I'm like, you're lying, You're like, so that was 1850 01:18:34.640 --> 01:18:35.880 an awful movie to watch. 1851 01:18:36.279 --> 01:18:36.720 Shut her. 1852 01:18:37.319 --> 01:18:39.399 She told me that she got super into the show 1853 01:18:39.479 --> 01:18:42.520 and she like loves fucking strange Bruce, so fucking showed her. 1854 01:18:42.600 --> 01:18:46.119 That's fucking sick, dude. It is funny because like it 1855 01:18:46.199 --> 01:18:48.439 can really fuck you up. And we actually have a 1856 01:18:48.520 --> 01:18:51.600 talk to do do a commentary in fourteen oh eight, 1857 01:18:51.640 --> 01:18:52.119 because I. 1858 01:18:52.079 --> 01:18:52.600 Love that movie. 1859 01:18:52.640 --> 01:18:54.359 When I was younger, me and my buddy that for 1860 01:18:54.520 --> 01:18:56.880 I got we got stoned and watched it. I was 1861 01:18:56.920 --> 01:18:58.960 like sixteen, and I was not going to actually air 1862 01:18:58.960 --> 01:19:00.760 it about at anton and they saying we should, like, 1863 01:19:00.840 --> 01:19:02.760 do it, do a commentary on it because it is 1864 01:19:02.800 --> 01:19:04.680 such a trippy Absolutely yeah. 1865 01:19:04.880 --> 01:19:06.399 Do not to get a hold on a whole other 1866 01:19:06.439 --> 01:19:08.239 sign tangent about it. So I'm just gonna throw this 1867 01:19:08.279 --> 01:19:09.920 idea in there, but I would love to hop on 1868 01:19:09.960 --> 01:19:12.039 that shit talking about that because I've been fascinated by 1869 01:19:12.039 --> 01:19:14.600 this concept and theory lately that rather than they're being 1870 01:19:14.720 --> 01:19:17.279 like places that are haunted or like entities like we 1871 01:19:17.319 --> 01:19:19.520 think they are, it's more of like a location that's 1872 01:19:19.560 --> 01:19:22.560 conscious and like I will watch that movie a couple 1873 01:19:22.600 --> 01:19:24.760 of days after I started thinking about this concept and 1874 01:19:24.760 --> 01:19:27.079 I was just like, whoa dude, shit happening for a 1875 01:19:27.079 --> 01:19:30.279 fucking reason, Like it's literally about the hotel room itself, 1876 01:19:30.319 --> 01:19:32.840 and not like they're actually being like a conscious person. 1877 01:19:33.439 --> 01:19:35.159 Yeah mind, like more. 1878 01:19:35.079 --> 01:19:37.520 Like a vortex or a lay line type situation that's 1879 01:19:37.640 --> 01:19:41.039 just like an entity all in of itself that's just 1880 01:19:41.239 --> 01:19:45.760 perhaps you know, like unperceivable or like one specific area 1881 01:19:45.880 --> 01:19:50.000 in a building that has Yeah, more like that, Okay, so. 1882 01:19:50.319 --> 01:19:51.439 We'll get it into like that would be. 1883 01:19:52.119 --> 01:19:55.399 More like a like an area is like conscious okay, 1884 01:19:55.479 --> 01:19:57.800 Like like like the area is like I don't know 1885 01:19:57.840 --> 01:19:59.800 how to explain it, Like like we perceive conscious as 1886 01:19:59.840 --> 01:20:01.600 being like tied to something physical, you know, like a 1887 01:20:01.640 --> 01:20:04.520 body or whatever. But if there's like things beyond that, 1888 01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:07.840 and they're just like a consciousness to a location. And 1889 01:20:07.880 --> 01:20:11.039 because there's a consciousness to that location, it's not that 1890 01:20:11.079 --> 01:20:12.439 those like souls are trapped there. 1891 01:20:12.479 --> 01:20:13.079 It's more than that. 1892 01:20:13.279 --> 01:20:15.000 Like part of that consciousness is that it can like 1893 01:20:15.079 --> 01:20:19.119 replay things like reality. That's that's the whole idea of 1894 01:20:19.199 --> 01:20:21.800 likes being you know, just weird ship. 1895 01:20:22.079 --> 01:20:24.520 Would you qualify the into base and as one in 1896 01:20:24.600 --> 01:20:25.960 such area? 1897 01:20:27.760 --> 01:20:30.399 I haven't dug into that one, so you had to come. 1898 01:20:30.840 --> 01:20:32.560 I don't know, I feel like that's that's beyond that. 1899 01:20:33.640 --> 01:20:35.640 But yeah, just like some of these like haunted locations 1900 01:20:35.640 --> 01:20:37.800 that people view where it's just like like, for example, 1901 01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:42.520 the replay paranormal ship where they don't actually like interact 1902 01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:46.760 with the people around there kind of just like. 1903 01:20:45.319 --> 01:20:49.359 Like because that's more of like the location or place 1904 01:20:49.399 --> 01:20:51.239 being like a cautious thing, you know, a. 1905 01:20:51.199 --> 01:20:55.439 Permanent imprint into into a location. Which like that's why 1906 01:20:55.439 --> 01:20:57.600 I said the Season hotel because that's just like just 1907 01:20:57.920 --> 01:21:00.880 rife with paranormal activity and it's just like because of 1908 01:21:00.920 --> 01:21:04.079 the trauma that has been in one area. I do 1909 01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:06.720 think they could, like because we've talked about before, the 1910 01:21:06.800 --> 01:21:09.119 idea of like I tell Anton people, if people walk 1911 01:21:09.159 --> 01:21:11.399 into a bar, they thought they're having a drink, having 1912 01:21:11.439 --> 01:21:12.680 a good time to go back the next day, the 1913 01:21:12.680 --> 01:21:14.880 bar wasn't even opened, and then they saw on the 1914 01:21:14.920 --> 01:21:17.680 fucking wall there's a picture of people that they saw 1915 01:21:18.039 --> 01:21:20.560 from fucking like fifty years ago. It's fucking crazy. There's 1916 01:21:20.680 --> 01:21:22.800 so many things we can get into, especially just. 1917 01:21:22.800 --> 01:21:24.800 Another concept with that room thing I was saying too. 1918 01:21:24.800 --> 01:21:27.159 You go into like Japanese folklore with like the yokai, 1919 01:21:27.159 --> 01:21:29.399 and they talk about like after something exists for one 1920 01:21:29.479 --> 01:21:31.319 hundred years, if you if you like take care of 1921 01:21:31.319 --> 01:21:34.720 it whatever, like it becomes conscious. Yeah, like literally like that, 1922 01:21:34.800 --> 01:21:36.600 but like a like a room or like a place. 1923 01:21:36.960 --> 01:21:38.399 But there's the other side of it where if you 1924 01:21:38.439 --> 01:21:40.880 don't treat it good, that it becomes like an angry spirit, 1925 01:21:41.159 --> 01:21:42.640 and that can be what some of the hauntings are 1926 01:21:42.680 --> 01:21:44.880 is that it's like a location that becomes conscious. 1927 01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:47.479 Going off of like the Geese ideas should come on. 1928 01:21:47.600 --> 01:21:50.319 I've we've talked about, we talked about strange Japanese legends, 1929 01:21:50.399 --> 01:21:52.960 but you should come on. We dive back into because 1930 01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:55.159 I know Anton wants to get back into like some 1931 01:21:55.239 --> 01:21:59.479 of the hauntings and weird paranormal events that happened in 1932 01:21:59.560 --> 01:22:01.800 Japanese culture and stuff like that, because I believe it. 1933 01:22:02.079 --> 01:22:05.079 Want to talk about the Kappa pulling offls out of buttholes, yeah, 1934 01:22:05.119 --> 01:22:06.119 oh yeah, man. 1935 01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:09.520 Or the fucking thing that there's tons of ship and 1936 01:22:09.720 --> 01:22:14.520 you're good, so obviously like you have like you have, 1937 01:22:15.640 --> 01:22:18.439 and it will go into your butthole. You have certain 1938 01:22:18.439 --> 01:22:19.439 ancient cultures like the. 1939 01:22:19.520 --> 01:22:24.039 Uh oh god, what's the oh my god, it starts 1940 01:22:24.039 --> 01:22:27.319 with the tea, I'm forgetting it. The nutsack raccoon, Oh. 1941 01:22:27.239 --> 01:22:30.000 Theis Yeahki, yeah yeah. 1942 01:22:30.239 --> 01:22:32.720 I never look at Mario the same think knowing that 1943 01:22:32.840 --> 01:22:34.840 it's not a fucking flying squirrel. It's supposed to be 1944 01:22:34.880 --> 01:22:36.119 flying by a giant ball bag. 1945 01:22:36.159 --> 01:22:43.760 It's a nuts yep, right now. I love Japanese folklor 1946 01:22:44.800 --> 01:22:47.479 walk into that spider woman in the woods is fucking great. 1947 01:22:47.960 --> 01:22:49.319 It's very over sexualized. 1948 01:22:49.319 --> 01:22:52.119 They're very into buttholes and dicks. 1949 01:22:52.880 --> 01:22:56.119 So obviously you have, like all these ancient cultures right 1950 01:22:56.159 --> 01:22:59.439 getting into Central Americans using it through rituals. Obviously, Peyoti 1951 01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:03.880 morning cory seeds. Uh, Salvia, the actual plant of salvia. 1952 01:23:04.159 --> 01:23:05.279 Fucking salvia. 1953 01:23:05.479 --> 01:23:07.279 Selvia is fucking stupid, man. They used to sell that 1954 01:23:07.279 --> 01:23:08.439 sh in fucking convenie stores. 1955 01:23:08.640 --> 01:23:09.359 Have you done it? 1956 01:23:09.479 --> 01:23:11.840 Yeah, numerous times, and it got the more I did it, 1957 01:23:11.840 --> 01:23:12.319 the more I. 1958 01:23:12.279 --> 01:23:14.239 Was like, it's not like, have you done it properly? 1959 01:23:14.359 --> 01:23:14.560 Yeah? 1960 01:23:15.359 --> 01:23:15.479 Yea. 1961 01:23:18.760 --> 01:23:20.560 It was Hamilton's Farmatopia. 1962 01:23:20.600 --> 01:23:22.800 He actually went to Mexico and they did the ship 1963 01:23:22.800 --> 01:23:25.199 You're supposed to like ingest it like raw. 1964 01:23:25.399 --> 01:23:29.920 You're it's crazy. Existed for like raw for two three years. 1965 01:23:29.960 --> 01:23:32.520 It used to be like in all all these convenience stores, 1966 01:23:32.760 --> 01:23:35.319 and uh, I just quickly. The first time I smoked it, 1967 01:23:35.359 --> 01:23:37.079 I was with these people were sitting on a picnic bench, 1968 01:23:37.960 --> 01:23:40.479 and I was with these two chicks and my buddy, 1969 01:23:40.680 --> 01:23:42.840 and then it felt like I had my headphones around 1970 01:23:42.880 --> 01:23:45.079 my neck and it felt there's a snake around my neck. 1971 01:23:45.319 --> 01:23:48.199 And this one ship I was with Quinn, she was like, 1972 01:23:48.319 --> 01:23:50.840 my like a friend, she's a weird looking girl, but 1973 01:23:50.880 --> 01:23:53.960 she looked looked at extern green and I was like, whoa. 1974 01:23:54.119 --> 01:23:57.000 Like it was like ten minutes it was not, it's not, 1975 01:23:57.399 --> 01:23:59.720 and then it was rep man, it was there's some 1976 01:23:59.720 --> 01:24:00.279 weird shit. 1977 01:24:00.760 --> 01:24:04.760 Uh. So, when the Spanish brutally conquered Indigenous Americans, people 1978 01:24:05.279 --> 01:24:08.960 obviously outlawed rituals involving psychedelic materials, labeling in them as 1979 01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:13.199 barbaric and against the Catholic Church. No, I wonder why. 1980 01:24:13.680 --> 01:24:14.800 Because of these secred. 1981 01:24:14.560 --> 01:24:17.680 Rituals that involve magic mushrooms, they had to go underground. 1982 01:24:18.439 --> 01:24:24.000 So indigenous tribes in uh Siberia used hallucinogaic mushrooms called 1983 01:24:24.039 --> 01:24:28.239 the animiscaria, which obviously we talked about consuming through reindeer piss, 1984 01:24:28.720 --> 01:24:31.279 which is fucking crazy that they even learned they even 1985 01:24:31.359 --> 01:24:33.479 found out how to do that is like mind blowing. 1986 01:24:34.199 --> 01:24:37.399 Who was the first guy that was like one person. 1987 01:24:40.279 --> 01:24:42.319 You even going into the ayahuasca thing? Who the fuck 1988 01:24:42.399 --> 01:24:43.479 figured out that you take? 1989 01:24:43.600 --> 01:24:44.399 Yeah, that's crazy. 1990 01:24:44.479 --> 01:24:46.720 Most of mark and then the shrub that doesn't even 1991 01:24:46.760 --> 01:24:48.680 grow anywhere fucking near it and you put it together 1992 01:24:48.720 --> 01:24:50.239 and then boom you get ayahuasca. 1993 01:24:50.279 --> 01:24:52.199 Like, well, isn't the whole thing with that that the 1994 01:24:52.239 --> 01:24:55.039 plants spoke to the shaman and were like to go here, 1995 01:24:55.119 --> 01:24:55.800 and you go here. 1996 01:24:55.960 --> 01:24:58.279 That's yes, they plants told. 1997 01:24:58.159 --> 01:25:01.039 Them that I would a lesser psychede was probably at 1998 01:25:01.039 --> 01:25:03.520 play or even just a forest elemental or just some 1999 01:25:03.560 --> 01:25:06.119 sort of conscious you know, maybe the consciousness of the. 2000 01:25:06.159 --> 01:25:09.000 Land is what what showed them that going back into 2001 01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:11.760 that fucking whole concept with the like laices and locations 2002 01:25:11.760 --> 01:25:13.560 being conscious and not being like tied to like a 2003 01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:14.399 physical vessel. 2004 01:25:14.680 --> 01:25:17.000 Yeah, exactly true. Man, all relates back. 2005 01:25:17.039 --> 01:25:21.079 So obviously an ancient Greece if a mis ritual ceremonies 2006 01:25:21.079 --> 01:25:24.560 that worshiped the gods and and there's all these weird 2007 01:25:24.600 --> 01:25:28.279 mysteries surrounding that. They they drank a psychoactive concoction that 2008 01:25:28.319 --> 01:25:30.399 contained a mixture of psychedelic mushrooms. 2009 01:25:30.720 --> 01:25:30.880 Uh. 2010 01:25:30.880 --> 01:25:33.960 The ceremonies were so secret that if you would reveal 2011 01:25:34.039 --> 01:25:37.760 details gained from them, you could have the death penalty. 2012 01:25:37.800 --> 01:25:39.760 So if you're like, oh, yeah, I went, uh, I 2013 01:25:39.800 --> 01:25:41.720 went hung out with all these weirdos that at a 2014 01:25:41.840 --> 01:25:44.279 bunch of little boys under their robes and I had 2015 01:25:44.279 --> 01:25:47.239 these crazy spiritual experiences and it's just like and they 2016 01:25:47.279 --> 01:25:49.479 told someone and then this guy's like, hey, do you 2017 01:25:49.479 --> 01:25:49.760 hear that? 2018 01:25:49.800 --> 01:25:51.840 Fucking uh? I don't know a Greek name. 2019 01:25:52.239 --> 01:25:54.880 A fucking Robbie told this guy about this experience and 2020 01:25:54.920 --> 01:25:55.800 they fucking killed him. 2021 01:25:55.840 --> 01:25:59.920 We're even like talking about it. It's crazy. So, yeah, 2022 01:26:00.119 --> 01:26:02.600 figures out like Plato, I want to join a mushroom cult. 2023 01:26:02.640 --> 01:26:03.800 That sounds pretty fun. 2024 01:26:04.039 --> 01:26:06.079 Uh, we should that that might be an episode down 2025 01:26:06.079 --> 01:26:07.840 the road, because as I dive deeper into psychondolics, I 2026 01:26:07.840 --> 01:26:10.239 would like to talk about more things to do with psychedelics, obviously, 2027 01:26:10.439 --> 01:26:12.399 and there is like mushroom cults and all sorts of 2028 01:26:12.439 --> 01:26:16.359 weird things. Famous figures like Plato, Homer Not from The Simpsons, 2029 01:26:16.560 --> 01:26:19.359 and Aristotle attended rituals like these. 2030 01:26:20.079 --> 01:26:20.800 Is that crazy? 2031 01:26:20.880 --> 01:26:26.039 It's crazy permanent, like the prominent these mushrooms were in 2032 01:26:26.119 --> 01:26:27.720 our ancient culture and stuff like that. 2033 01:26:27.760 --> 01:26:29.079 It's fucking nuts, man. 2034 01:26:30.039 --> 01:26:32.800 Dude, look at the cave like that's literally a psychedelic trip. 2035 01:26:33.279 --> 01:26:38.079 I can't imagine being a cave like balls, So fucking nuts. 2036 01:26:38.159 --> 01:26:39.479 Oh you know what I'm talking about though, Right the 2037 01:26:39.479 --> 01:26:41.319 cave with the whole like they were living in the 2038 01:26:41.319 --> 01:26:43.239 cave and they didn't know that the world existed outside 2039 01:26:43.319 --> 01:26:43.600 the cave. 2040 01:26:43.960 --> 01:26:47.600 Oh yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's a crazy yeah because that 2041 01:26:47.640 --> 01:26:50.760 shit's that sounds like like that's our reality for mushrooms 2042 01:26:50.760 --> 01:26:53.680 as a whole hundred percent. And even this idea of 2043 01:26:53.720 --> 01:26:56.159 how our structure is in our society of people that 2044 01:26:56.279 --> 01:26:58.720 like trust the government even and they don't realize the 2045 01:26:58.760 --> 01:27:01.920 world outside of it and stuff that. Right, So obviously 2046 01:27:01.920 --> 01:27:05.680 ancient egypt Agan Egyptians, and I'm starting to read the 2047 01:27:05.720 --> 01:27:08.039 Egyptian Book of the Dead, which I know it's going 2048 01:27:08.119 --> 01:27:11.079 to be kind of tough to get through, uh, but 2049 01:27:11.279 --> 01:27:13.359 it's I I really want to do a whole episode 2050 01:27:13.359 --> 01:27:14.399 about the Egyptian Book. 2051 01:27:14.199 --> 01:27:15.359 Of the Dead. I totally I talked about this in 2052 01:27:15.359 --> 01:27:16.039 the Tibetan. 2053 01:27:15.760 --> 01:27:17.840 Book of the Day because I have two dope ass 2054 01:27:17.920 --> 01:27:20.439 books that that will look like they got the cool. 2055 01:27:20.640 --> 01:27:20.880 Uh. 2056 01:27:20.960 --> 01:27:23.359 They have like a like a gold looking string through 2057 01:27:23.399 --> 01:27:25.920 the spine of it, and it's a fucking dope looking book. 2058 01:27:27.279 --> 01:27:28.560 And I want to get all this stuff. But they 2059 01:27:28.640 --> 01:27:30.720 dabbled into the food of the gods. They were believe 2060 01:27:30.720 --> 01:27:33.439 they were placed on earth by the god of Cyrus, 2061 01:27:33.800 --> 01:27:35.479 and god like a Cyrus is like the god of 2062 01:27:35.520 --> 01:27:37.479 the dead, and shit like that. So they all go 2063 01:27:37.640 --> 01:27:40.520 so fucking deep because of how special they were. They 2064 01:27:40.600 --> 01:27:45.279 only consumed them for religious reasons, mostly by priests and 2065 01:27:45.359 --> 01:27:48.399 upper class. Of course, they consolidate it towards the top, right, 2066 01:27:49.840 --> 01:27:52.199 and now running into this stuff. So like obviously, Terrence mckinna, 2067 01:27:52.439 --> 01:27:57.479 famous psychonaut he's a component of everything and all things trippy, 2068 01:27:57.680 --> 01:28:00.760 proposed the psychedelic mushrooms were a crucial old development and 2069 01:28:00.840 --> 01:28:03.239 human consciousness. And his book Food of the Gods, he 2070 01:28:03.279 --> 01:28:07.840 claims that obviously primates uh descended from the trees and 2071 01:28:08.119 --> 01:28:12.039 entered a like obviously and came down to the earth 2072 01:28:12.119 --> 01:28:14.880 and and you know, as these trees and uh and 2073 01:28:14.920 --> 01:28:17.760 in these entered the savannahs is how he put it, 2074 01:28:18.680 --> 01:28:22.560 and retreated back to the savannas and enroached whatever this 2075 01:28:22.640 --> 01:28:26.319 thing is weird, the primates begin to obviously consume as 2076 01:28:26.319 --> 01:28:28.439 they came down from the trees whatever how we formed it, 2077 01:28:28.640 --> 01:28:31.079 how he said it, and they started consuming mushrooms. 2078 01:28:31.399 --> 01:28:33.439 Uh, and this. 2079 01:28:33.680 --> 01:28:38.600 May have influenced their consciousness to an extent. 2080 01:28:39.279 --> 01:28:41.479 He love a little Adam bomb in the background it's 2081 01:28:41.520 --> 01:28:44.279 just like everything else is like wow, awesome, awesome. 2082 01:28:44.119 --> 01:28:48.760 The aliens fucking shaking hands, she can hands, the astronaut hey. 2083 01:28:48.720 --> 01:28:50.920 And the that's the egg of life or the sea 2084 01:28:50.960 --> 01:28:51.319 of life. 2085 01:28:52.479 --> 01:28:54.319 Yeah, it's crazy because. 2086 01:28:54.079 --> 01:28:58.600 Like I remember exactly what. I have a thing of 2087 01:28:58.800 --> 01:29:01.960 Gilgamesh holding that pin on my corpord I'm looking at right. 2088 01:29:01.840 --> 01:29:06.199 Now, so show out to Jim, figure this is this. 2089 01:29:06.199 --> 01:29:09.039 This painting is from twenty twenty one, which is crazy 2090 01:29:10.239 --> 01:29:12.880 as far as the signature goes. And if you look 2091 01:29:12.960 --> 01:29:15.359 up the stone Eate theory you'll see this imagery. 2092 01:29:15.560 --> 01:29:19.119 It's fairly cool. I'd love to have actually this poster and. 2093 01:29:19.159 --> 01:29:21.159 The idea that it has, like the alien chicken AI 2094 01:29:21.239 --> 01:29:23.159 and the astronaut wards, like did that come from mushrooms? 2095 01:29:23.159 --> 01:29:25.359 Because like then we're the like the whole alien thing. 2096 01:29:25.520 --> 01:29:30.119 Like does the idea that we evolved from taking mushrooms? 2097 01:29:30.199 --> 01:29:33.239 Does that now just take away the idea that aliens 2098 01:29:33.279 --> 01:29:33.479 ex this? 2099 01:29:33.720 --> 01:29:34.399 I don't think so. 2100 01:29:34.880 --> 01:29:37.159 I don't think or could play into the alien thing, 2101 01:29:37.239 --> 01:29:39.239 like just a funny concept I was thinking about, you 2102 01:29:39.279 --> 01:29:41.319 know how like when ships will go from one place 2103 01:29:41.359 --> 01:29:43.479 to another, there'll be like muscles that will attach themselves 2104 01:29:43.479 --> 01:29:46.079 and then get dropped in other areas. What if mushrooms 2105 01:29:46.119 --> 01:29:51.479 were like intergalactic muscles their ship and they just fucking spread. 2106 01:29:51.159 --> 01:29:54.279 The ship one of I can't remember exactly what it was, 2107 01:29:54.319 --> 01:29:56.399 but one of the ships that went up came back 2108 01:29:56.439 --> 01:29:59.640 down with a green mold on it, so it's possible 2109 01:29:59.640 --> 01:30:00.840 for it survive in space. 2110 01:30:01.279 --> 01:30:02.279 Plus, that goes into. 2111 01:30:02.079 --> 01:30:04.960 Panspermia, where it's like, you know, asteroids and comets hit 2112 01:30:05.000 --> 01:30:07.800 planets and may have been free of other planets which 2113 01:30:07.840 --> 01:30:09.920 carried those and that live within it, and then it 2114 01:30:10.039 --> 01:30:12.119 hits and it finds that perfect breeding ground and it 2115 01:30:12.159 --> 01:30:12.880 grows out of it. 2116 01:30:13.159 --> 01:30:16.319 That's crazy because obviously he saw like maybe they were 2117 01:30:16.359 --> 01:30:19.680 like you know, roaming around and herds of prey and 2118 01:30:19.760 --> 01:30:24.039 they would continue to come across you know, fresh dung, poopy. 2119 01:30:24.600 --> 01:30:24.920 Uh. 2120 01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:29.319 And then obviously which psilocybe qubensus loves to grow. And 2121 01:30:29.399 --> 01:30:32.560 McKinnon takes the evidence maybe of the rapid shift towards 2122 01:30:32.640 --> 01:30:36.399 more social and conscious behaviors that occurred during obviously a 2123 01:30:36.439 --> 01:30:38.920 short period of time, which I, you know, you have 2124 01:30:39.039 --> 01:30:42.680 the idea where the fucking you know, the idea of 2125 01:30:42.720 --> 01:30:46.560 that we came the evolution theory as there's a missing link, 2126 01:30:46.600 --> 01:30:49.359 which I do believe to an extent, because this is 2127 01:30:49.399 --> 01:30:52.680 only an idea. My belief is how we were created 2128 01:30:53.000 --> 01:30:55.039 was that Aliens took us off the year, off the 2129 01:30:55.119 --> 01:30:57.439 Earth for about one hundred years and actually modified us 2130 01:30:57.680 --> 01:31:00.920 to bring us back down to buying gold because they 2131 01:31:00.960 --> 01:31:03.479 had no gold on their planet because they destroyed themselves 2132 01:31:03.520 --> 01:31:07.000 with Lyra and the whole war that happened supposedly. But 2133 01:31:07.159 --> 01:31:09.479 I like that theory because to me, it makes sense 2134 01:31:09.479 --> 01:31:12.640 that Aliens would take off some sort of Semian ancestor 2135 01:31:12.680 --> 01:31:15.239 from this planet that they maybe even saw help grow 2136 01:31:15.399 --> 01:31:17.439 to the extent that it's at, and then use this 2137 01:31:17.560 --> 01:31:20.039 as a slave race to an extent, which could be true, 2138 01:31:20.079 --> 01:31:20.800 could not be true. 2139 01:31:20.840 --> 01:31:23.920 It's just a theory, but doesn't that Like I feel 2140 01:31:23.920 --> 01:31:27.600 like that theory is slightly more of like a pessimistic 2141 01:31:27.600 --> 01:31:30.880 one because you're like, oh, fuck, Warren, slavery exists everywhere 2142 01:31:30.880 --> 01:31:31.479 in the universe. 2143 01:31:31.560 --> 01:31:32.600 But that, yeah, I know. 2144 01:31:32.680 --> 01:31:35.439 And I'm obviously a huge belief in the reptilians and 2145 01:31:35.479 --> 01:31:38.479 that people are dark entities influencing our content. 2146 01:31:38.560 --> 01:31:40.359 I'm about as close to a cosmic nihilist as you 2147 01:31:40.399 --> 01:31:42.760 can get, but in a weird zany sort of way. 2148 01:31:42.840 --> 01:31:44.359 So I feel you on that. 2149 01:31:44.680 --> 01:31:46.640 I mean, what if I've thought about this theory. What 2150 01:31:46.680 --> 01:31:48.760 if if we're looking at like the missing link, like 2151 01:31:48.800 --> 01:31:51.600 it's actually on an Aki DNA, and it could theoretically explain, 2152 01:31:51.680 --> 01:31:54.520 like reptilians and like cryptids and shit, that they just 2153 01:31:54.560 --> 01:31:57.319 created different races to do different jobs, like reptilians to 2154 01:31:57.319 --> 01:32:00.359 do some shit underground, bigfoots to fucking clear out trees, 2155 01:32:00.399 --> 01:32:03.760 and shit, fucking mothmend to take things to farther locations, 2156 01:32:04.239 --> 01:32:06.239 created people to be like a jack of all trades, 2157 01:32:06.600 --> 01:32:09.880 and that missing connection between all of us is actually 2158 01:32:09.920 --> 01:32:12.199 on an achy DNA, and that explains all the humanoid 2159 01:32:12.239 --> 01:32:14.119 looking shit, is that the humanoid park comes from on 2160 01:32:14.159 --> 01:32:14.800 an achy DNA. 2161 01:32:14.840 --> 01:32:16.800 It's kind of a cool theory because everything is theorized, 2162 01:32:16.880 --> 01:32:19.439 right where like I I will always until the day 2163 01:32:19.479 --> 01:32:22.439 I die, will believe in aliens and that whatever aliens 2164 01:32:22.479 --> 01:32:26.560 be here or dimensional creatures and stuff like that, I'll 2165 01:32:26.560 --> 01:32:27.960 always have that belief, right. 2166 01:32:27.840 --> 01:32:31.439 So five rings to the moth Royalty if they were 2167 01:32:31.439 --> 01:32:34.439 all deceived for another DNA was created. 2168 01:32:34.840 --> 01:32:37.760 So obviously we can't really prove the stone ape theory, 2169 01:32:37.800 --> 01:32:41.159 but it's it's an interesting one, and it's fucking crazy 2170 01:32:41.199 --> 01:32:46.680 because it it would it does make kind of sense. 2171 01:32:47.039 --> 01:32:49.520 It's personally one of my favorites, honestly, like out of 2172 01:32:49.560 --> 01:32:53.199 all the human consciousness origins so simple. 2173 01:32:53.199 --> 01:32:55.520 But that could possibly be why it makes the most sense. 2174 01:32:55.680 --> 01:32:58.159 And then who knows if they were influenced by say 2175 01:32:58.199 --> 01:33:00.680 it alien to like you know what I mean, like 2176 01:33:00.720 --> 01:33:03.039 that they reached this higher consciousness in the alien maybe 2177 01:33:03.239 --> 01:33:06.039 was like, oh, they're ready to evolve type of shit. 2178 01:33:06.560 --> 01:33:08.560 And they could have dropped that ship on accident, like 2179 01:33:08.600 --> 01:33:10.439 it just attached to the ship and just fucking grows 2180 01:33:10.439 --> 01:33:13.079 everywhere and they come back gods, but it's actually just 2181 01:33:13.119 --> 01:33:14.600 like the muscles of their ship. They're like, fuck it, 2182 01:33:14.640 --> 01:33:15.800 to scrape it off before we leave. 2183 01:33:16.039 --> 01:33:17.359 But before it bring to anything else. 2184 01:33:17.359 --> 01:33:18.920 That that makes the theory of the whole thing in 2185 01:33:18.960 --> 01:33:24.119 the Bible, how when they talk about them the was 2186 01:33:24.119 --> 01:33:27.039 it the Nephilim, I think coming back down to Earth 2187 01:33:27.119 --> 01:33:29.880 and seeding with the people because they they left us 2188 01:33:30.079 --> 01:33:32.359 and didn't know what we would become, right, And then 2189 01:33:32.399 --> 01:33:35.159 they're like they come back and that's what they and 2190 01:33:35.159 --> 01:33:38.920 this is in ancient text of them wanting to mate. 2191 01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:42.039 They found the women of Earth is strictly biblical. 2192 01:33:42.199 --> 01:33:44.520 Yeah, that they wanted to mate with the people, and 2193 01:33:44.640 --> 01:33:46.760 the Bible is the Bible, right, I don't. I'm not 2194 01:33:46.840 --> 01:33:49.000 religious body sense of the imagination. 2195 01:33:49.079 --> 01:33:51.359 There are there are always stories of demigods and other 2196 01:33:51.359 --> 01:33:53.720 cultures though that are children descendants of the gods. 2197 01:33:53.800 --> 01:33:56.760 So it's like I think you if you read between 2198 01:33:56.840 --> 01:34:00.039 the lines of Bible and ancient text and Hinduism, I 2199 01:34:00.119 --> 01:34:03.079 need religious construct And I like Russell Brand's theory that 2200 01:34:03.119 --> 01:34:07.880 every every religion almost pretty much says that we live 2201 01:34:07.920 --> 01:34:11.640 in an illusatory state illusion that we all have to 2202 01:34:11.640 --> 01:34:14.560 participate in. But it's an illusion, but we just don't 2203 01:34:14.640 --> 01:34:18.560 understand it yet. And there is that guy Andrew Schultz. 2204 01:34:19.119 --> 01:34:21.119 His podcast is great. I'll shout out because it's awesome. 2205 01:34:21.159 --> 01:34:22.760 They sit there and they drink, they have a really 2206 01:34:22.760 --> 01:34:25.119 cool setup and they have tons of cool guests on 2207 01:34:25.319 --> 01:34:27.520 and he had Russell Brand on a Russell Brand I 2208 01:34:27.520 --> 01:34:29.239 don't give a show what people think about him. I've 2209 01:34:29.279 --> 01:34:31.560 liked him for a long time and he's someone that 2210 01:34:31.600 --> 01:34:33.840 goes against the norm and he has his own fucking 2211 01:34:33.920 --> 01:34:35.760 theories about shit, and I like it. 2212 01:34:35.920 --> 01:34:39.520 My favorite Russell Brand theory and it's controversial, I know, 2213 01:34:39.640 --> 01:34:42.760 but when the world hands you at Jeffrey, just stroke 2214 01:34:42.800 --> 01:34:43.439 the furry wall. 2215 01:34:43.560 --> 01:34:46.760 Yeah, I know, it's funny to shut that out. 2216 01:34:47.520 --> 01:34:51.119 I have a weed shop literally like a two minute 2217 01:34:51.119 --> 01:34:53.600 walk for me, Like it's so close, and I was 2218 01:34:53.600 --> 01:34:54.159 like looking for it. 2219 01:34:54.199 --> 01:34:55.199 I don't now really go there. 2220 01:34:55.199 --> 01:34:56.560 I have one shot that I really like because the 2221 01:34:56.600 --> 01:35:00.840 people are fucking awesome and. 2222 01:34:59.439 --> 01:35:04.359 They had Ajeffrey and I loved it. Fucking great strain. 2223 01:35:04.600 --> 01:35:07.800 It was so nice, like got you superstone, but now 2224 01:35:07.840 --> 01:35:09.319 where you're like anxious and stuff like that. 2225 01:35:09.359 --> 01:35:10.439 And I told Anton about it. 2226 01:35:10.880 --> 01:35:12.560 So I feel like, I that might have been a 2227 01:35:12.600 --> 01:35:14.479 mushroom night for me, or I was out drinking and 2228 01:35:14.520 --> 01:35:16.039 I remember you texted it and I'm. 2229 01:35:15.880 --> 01:35:19.720 Like, wait, no, no, no, you didn't make a Jeffrey. 2230 01:35:19.840 --> 01:35:20.520 Yeah, he asked me. 2231 01:35:20.520 --> 01:35:24.159 That's just that Trump doesn't the combination of drugs wouldn't work. 2232 01:35:24.680 --> 01:35:25.920 It can't smoke all of that. 2233 01:35:26.039 --> 01:35:27.359 Yeah, so crazy. 2234 01:35:27.439 --> 01:35:29.760 So and then we're gonna bring it into obviously what is 2235 01:35:29.800 --> 01:35:33.239 happening nowadays, right, because what we're sure of that mushrooms 2236 01:35:33.319 --> 01:35:36.720 arrived the United States in the twentieth century with little 2237 01:35:36.720 --> 01:35:39.640 help from an executive of the JP Morgan Bank which 2238 01:35:39.680 --> 01:35:41.640 is crazy considering you know, they try to kill people 2239 01:35:41.640 --> 01:35:44.640 on the Titanic. To fucking further along their agenda, go 2240 01:35:44.760 --> 01:35:48.600 back to that episode. He discovered them on vacation and 2241 01:35:49.119 --> 01:35:52.600 thinks that these are fun quotations and I should bring 2242 01:35:52.680 --> 01:35:55.560 them to my buddies. That's literally like how they phrased 2243 01:35:55.560 --> 01:35:58.279 how he phrased it. So he does jump ahead a 2244 01:35:58.279 --> 01:36:03.439 bit to nineteen fifty seven, and then R. Gordon Wasson, 2245 01:36:03.800 --> 01:36:06.520 a successful banker and big fan of magic mushrooms, is 2246 01:36:06.520 --> 01:36:10.079 traveling through Mexico where he learns more about this stuff, 2247 01:36:10.479 --> 01:36:15.199 and he finds himself in a mes tech ceremony. This 2248 01:36:15.239 --> 01:36:17.199 strain that I've tried that I actually really like. 2249 01:36:17.720 --> 01:36:20.279 Because it's you could literally go out and do things 2250 01:36:20.359 --> 01:36:22.760 on it, not like blue Meanies or other kind of 2251 01:36:22.760 --> 01:36:26.840 strange right, and conducted by a shaman, and it features shrooms. 2252 01:36:26.880 --> 01:36:30.279 They get all fucking stone. Wasson claims he. 2253 01:36:30.279 --> 01:36:34.560 Didn't do any but he was he was all used 2254 01:36:34.600 --> 01:36:35.680 to that exercise before. 2255 01:36:35.720 --> 01:36:36.880 I don't know what that means. 2256 01:36:36.520 --> 01:36:40.359 He's been aware of these exercises, these mushroom rituals. I 2257 01:36:40.359 --> 01:36:43.680 think he claims he didn't do them just in case 2258 01:36:43.760 --> 01:36:46.000 maybe the business people are like, and why do you 2259 01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:48.319 do it? Fucking drugs, dude? While they're like snorting a 2260 01:36:48.359 --> 01:36:49.119 huge lot of coke. 2261 01:36:49.920 --> 01:36:51.840 All of the stockholders were like, look, we all do it, 2262 01:36:51.920 --> 01:36:54.319 just don't admit to its will vomit. 2263 01:36:54.880 --> 01:36:57.560 He does write about his experience because he ends up 2264 01:36:57.560 --> 01:37:00.560 doing them in Life magazine, calling this article seeking the 2265 01:37:00.560 --> 01:37:03.800 Magic Mushroom. The piece is credited with naming the magic 2266 01:37:04.399 --> 01:37:07.000 This is the piece, the article that actually supposed to 2267 01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:10.800 be coins the whole use of magic mushrooms and making 2268 01:37:10.800 --> 01:37:13.760 folks more aware of them. Around the same time, American 2269 01:37:13.800 --> 01:37:17.319 scientists starts studying shrooms, and so they enlist the help 2270 01:37:17.359 --> 01:37:22.720 of a Swiss scientist, Albert Hoffman, known as the father 2271 01:37:22.840 --> 01:37:25.800 of LSD, which would up leading into our LSD conversation. 2272 01:37:26.159 --> 01:37:29.520 He's probably really interesting guy, to say the least. He 2273 01:37:29.560 --> 01:37:32.640 also was the first person who distracts psilocybin from the mushrooms. 2274 01:37:32.880 --> 01:37:37.680 Wasson brings to this state from where he was in Mexico, 2275 01:37:37.840 --> 01:37:42.279 brings the mushrooms whatever. And then Hoffman actually was he 2276 01:37:42.800 --> 01:37:45.399 was the one that was in charge of the chemical 2277 01:37:45.439 --> 01:37:48.439 research of understanding shrooms and he's like, oh, that makes 2278 01:37:48.439 --> 01:37:51.800 people feel a little wacky. Fucking crazy because all this 2279 01:37:52.039 --> 01:37:54.159 was like this guy brings it and this guy studies 2280 01:37:54.159 --> 01:37:55.880 it and then kind of like branches out from there. 2281 01:37:55.920 --> 01:38:00.880 So without Wasson, it might not have been prevalent in 2282 01:38:00.920 --> 01:38:03.720 the Hippy error as it was to an extent, isn't. 2283 01:38:03.520 --> 01:38:05.399 It isn't it amazing too, like like not to get 2284 01:38:05.439 --> 01:38:07.439 onto the mk lgor thing because that's that's totally sidebar. 2285 01:38:07.600 --> 01:38:10.960 But the fact that all of this stuff pre counterculture 2286 01:38:11.000 --> 01:38:14.680 movement was being heavily researched in universities. 2287 01:38:14.239 --> 01:38:15.960 In prestigious universities. 2288 01:38:16.279 --> 01:38:18.560 Leary was in Harvard, for fuck's sake, and it's like 2289 01:38:20.000 --> 01:38:24.079 it just like something had to occur, like something had 2290 01:38:24.079 --> 01:38:25.800 to occur, And whether or not it was just the 2291 01:38:25.840 --> 01:38:27.880 social awakening of people being like I'm not going to 2292 01:38:27.920 --> 01:38:31.119 fight this fucking war, like, uh, we have way too 2293 01:38:31.199 --> 01:38:32.960 much invested in this war. Get your ass in the 2294 01:38:32.960 --> 01:38:36.760 fucking grinder, Like whether it was just that, and now 2295 01:38:36.800 --> 01:38:39.079 they're like, we need a society, be society to be 2296 01:38:39.199 --> 01:38:43.399 more docile and more aquarian, if you will, which is 2297 01:38:43.520 --> 01:38:45.119 why it's being legalized now. 2298 01:38:45.159 --> 01:38:48.439 But poor some flora into the water like Hitler. 2299 01:38:48.479 --> 01:38:51.319 I think the simplest answer is that the generation that 2300 01:38:51.640 --> 01:38:54.840 was involved in the counter culture are now the oldest 2301 01:38:54.960 --> 01:38:58.439 generation around essentially, So I think I think that's the 2302 01:38:58.439 --> 01:38:59.960 most reasonable. 2303 01:38:59.640 --> 01:39:00.920 Altern into business manage. 2304 01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:03.199 They've been doing it this whole fucking time, just doing 2305 01:39:03.239 --> 01:39:05.159 it under underground, and now they're like, all right, we 2306 01:39:05.159 --> 01:39:06.880 got to legalize it now because we've been doing the 2307 01:39:06.880 --> 01:39:08.000 ship for fucking years. 2308 01:39:08.199 --> 01:39:10.359 So we'reading into this secrets out. We can't keep a 2309 01:39:10.359 --> 01:39:13.000 lid on this anymore. So Uh, let's we're gonna get into. 2310 01:39:12.880 --> 01:39:15.319 A ProTouch side though, because that's what we're using to 2311 01:39:15.359 --> 01:39:16.319 control people's minds. 2312 01:39:16.680 --> 01:39:19.680 Yeah, and the thing is the LSD conversation that we 2313 01:39:19.720 --> 01:39:21.479 will have after I try and stuff like that will 2314 01:39:21.520 --> 01:39:24.760 also lead into before we cover mk Ultra, which I 2315 01:39:25.000 --> 01:39:28.279 I anton we've like discussing you in these big, huge 2316 01:39:28.319 --> 01:39:30.760 episodes like how how that we know? Like I've said 2317 01:39:30.800 --> 01:39:33.199 before we did Dahmer, we did almost four hours where 2318 01:39:33.239 --> 01:39:35.560 we can do these big ass topics where we're getting 2319 01:39:35.560 --> 01:39:38.520 into Jimmy Savill. Now we've done Antarctica, where I want 2320 01:39:38.520 --> 01:39:39.640 to do like I want to do. 2321 01:39:39.640 --> 01:39:40.640 Mkultra in a sitting. 2322 01:39:40.880 --> 01:39:43.119 I want to just cover it all and fucking push 2323 01:39:43.119 --> 01:39:44.840 it out there and not have to do all these 2324 01:39:44.880 --> 01:39:46.960 like fucking parts of it. It's just talk about it 2325 01:39:46.960 --> 01:39:49.720 as a whole because it's a fucking huge topic. 2326 01:39:50.279 --> 01:39:53.640 We gotta do LSD and then m AKA Ultra because 2327 01:39:53.680 --> 01:39:55.520 I'm saying we'll do it an two separate things. 2328 01:39:55.560 --> 01:39:57.479 Yeah, we're gonna do LSD on its own, and we'll 2329 01:39:57.520 --> 01:39:59.960 have Shane on for that one a thousand percent because 2330 01:40:00.039 --> 01:40:03.399 you definitely have way more experience than I. So I 2331 01:40:03.479 --> 01:40:05.600 will have to talk about a quick sidebar for everyone 2332 01:40:05.600 --> 01:40:08.159 that's like, uh that doesn't maybe has never tried mushrooms. 2333 01:40:08.600 --> 01:40:11.920 Psilocybin doesn't work right away. I can take an hour 2334 01:40:12.359 --> 01:40:15.560 or more to kick in, meaning if you don't feel loopy, 2335 01:40:16.279 --> 01:40:19.680 please don't take more. That night that I was saying 2336 01:40:19.720 --> 01:40:21.119 to you guys, yeah. 2337 01:40:21.199 --> 01:40:22.920 Then I was working, I'm gonna eat more. 2338 01:40:23.119 --> 01:40:24.880 And then I was saying to you guys where I 2339 01:40:24.920 --> 01:40:27.000 was gonna, like, you know, I was off the next 2340 01:40:27.079 --> 01:40:28.840 day and I'm like, I'm gonna do some mushrooms stuff 2341 01:40:28.840 --> 01:40:31.319 like that. And then so I was like, I took 2342 01:40:31.399 --> 01:40:33.840 like three and a half gram something that I was 2343 01:40:33.880 --> 01:40:35.880 gonna not really kicking in after like forty five minutes. 2344 01:40:35.880 --> 01:40:38.079 So I ate like six of my micro dose pills. 2345 01:40:38.239 --> 01:40:39.640 I said to answer, and I told him by this, 2346 01:40:39.680 --> 01:40:41.359 I was like, Mushroom was like, oh, you want to 2347 01:40:41.359 --> 01:40:43.960 fuck around? Eh, you want to fuck around? And then 2348 01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:45.960 I was like I remember, and this is I found 2349 01:40:45.960 --> 01:40:47.399 this artist that I love and I don't give a 2350 01:40:47.399 --> 01:40:49.840 shit people obviously might know about her, but I love 2351 01:40:49.880 --> 01:40:51.039 this artist, London Grammar. 2352 01:40:51.239 --> 01:40:52.399 She has an amazing voice. 2353 01:40:52.760 --> 01:40:57.239 She's like my crush now, crazy like impactful emotional music. 2354 01:40:57.640 --> 01:40:59.680 And halfway through this trip, after I'm like shitting my 2355 01:40:59.680 --> 01:41:02.359 brain out and having all this crazy experiences, sweating in 2356 01:41:02.399 --> 01:41:04.439 the washroom and I'm laying on the couch and my cat, 2357 01:41:04.520 --> 01:41:06.920 my doggre beside me, is like laying there and I'm 2358 01:41:06.920 --> 01:41:08.359 just tripping balls, and I'm like I had the grat 2359 01:41:08.359 --> 01:41:10.920 idea to plug my headphones in to my PS five 2360 01:41:10.960 --> 01:41:13.560 controller so I could listen to the music while watching 2361 01:41:13.560 --> 01:41:16.840 the video. And I was just tripping balls, crying, having 2362 01:41:16.840 --> 01:41:19.760 this emotional experience. Because if you want to fuck around, 2363 01:41:19.760 --> 01:41:21.479 the Mushmill will make you find out. 2364 01:41:24.359 --> 01:41:26.760 But if you don't fuck around, then you'll never find out. 2365 01:41:26.920 --> 01:41:29.880 It's very true, very true. So obviously it comes in waves. 2366 01:41:29.920 --> 01:41:32.199 And I'm gonna do a video for everyone, like follow 2367 01:41:32.199 --> 01:41:34.119 the YouTube stuff because I will be doing like little 2368 01:41:34.119 --> 01:41:36.279 short videos of the best way to be doing the stuff, 2369 01:41:36.319 --> 01:41:38.680 set and setting all that shit, So what's more important. 2370 01:41:38.680 --> 01:41:40.880 Trips can come into waves and they can last five 2371 01:41:40.920 --> 01:41:43.920 to seven hours if you like, maybe the tea might 2372 01:41:43.960 --> 01:41:47.199 be only three. So if you're gonna do mushrooms, don't 2373 01:41:47.239 --> 01:41:49.960 do on a day that you have anything planned, you 2374 01:41:50.000 --> 01:41:52.640 know what, So how it's gonna start, I'll expect like 2375 01:41:52.720 --> 01:41:54.880 euphoria and giggling. The first time I ever did mushrooms, 2376 01:41:54.880 --> 01:41:56.960 I had a laugh attack that one. I me and 2377 01:41:57.039 --> 01:41:59.800 Chelsea mushrooms and I was like just laughing hysterically and 2378 01:42:00.079 --> 01:42:04.399 I was like, I calmed the doma and then I was. 2379 01:42:04.359 --> 01:42:08.119 Like, oh no, it's coming back. Just laughing my fucking 2380 01:42:08.239 --> 01:42:10.039 at all. So fucking funny. 2381 01:42:10.079 --> 01:42:13.399 Obviously, intense feelings of wonder and deep thinking, staring at 2382 01:42:13.399 --> 01:42:18.359 your hands, alternate perception of time, some light visuals and 2383 01:42:18.439 --> 01:42:21.119 lights will be moving. It's not all fun and games 2384 01:42:21.119 --> 01:42:24.119 because it can cause intense paranoia. It depends how your 2385 01:42:24.159 --> 01:42:26.920 state of mind is. Confusion, nausea and a feeling of 2386 01:42:26.920 --> 01:42:29.079 impending doom. You have to be in a good mind state. 2387 01:42:29.119 --> 01:42:32.680 I've taken mushrooms when I am in a low vibration, 2388 01:42:32.800 --> 01:42:33.279 so to speak. 2389 01:42:33.279 --> 01:42:34.800 I was lower and I was like, oh, think OF's 2390 01:42:34.800 --> 01:42:38.520 some mushrooms does not go well, and that you like, 2391 01:42:38.800 --> 01:42:39.560 fuck your life. 2392 01:42:39.720 --> 01:42:45.000 Mean yeah, literally, you will understand that time has no 2393 01:42:45.199 --> 01:42:46.760 fucking meaning when you are in the middle of the 2394 01:42:46.840 --> 01:42:47.359 bad trip. 2395 01:42:48.479 --> 01:42:49.760 It's gonna feel like eternity. 2396 01:42:50.199 --> 01:42:52.840 Thatchoes into My worst mushroom story, bro is that I 2397 01:42:52.880 --> 01:42:55.880 fucking rolled two blunts, smoke two blunts, and came back 2398 01:42:55.880 --> 01:42:58.479 inside and somehow all that time period was fifteen minutes. 2399 01:42:58.520 --> 01:43:01.359 I don't even know how to fuck that's possible, you see, 2400 01:43:01.399 --> 01:43:03.000 And that's also something. 2401 01:43:03.600 --> 01:43:08.920 Dangerous left is being on mushrooms and smoking weed can 2402 01:43:09.159 --> 01:43:12.800 change your trip. And I've also mixed anything experience recently 2403 01:43:12.840 --> 01:43:15.159 where I've like, because I drink and I have alcohol 2404 01:43:15.159 --> 01:43:17.239 readily available, it's like a bar and stuff like that. 2405 01:43:17.439 --> 01:43:20.319 So like to I've done mushrooms plenty of times within 2406 01:43:20.359 --> 01:43:23.159 the past year where I'll like, drink a little as 2407 01:43:23.159 --> 01:43:26.039 I'm coming down, and it's not always a good choice 2408 01:43:26.680 --> 01:43:29.560 because it can shift your brain and it's not fun. 2409 01:43:30.079 --> 01:43:33.439 I feel like Valerian root and five HTP and a 2410 01:43:33.439 --> 01:43:35.560 little bit of magnesium or the go to is for 2411 01:43:35.640 --> 01:43:36.119 after trip. 2412 01:43:38.560 --> 01:43:39.520 Edibles is mine. 2413 01:43:39.560 --> 01:43:41.119 Usually as soon as I start feeling the peak and 2414 01:43:41.119 --> 01:43:42.720 then it comes down, I'll eat some edibles and then 2415 01:43:42.720 --> 01:43:43.760 it'll just kind of smooth. 2416 01:43:44.760 --> 01:43:46.760 Those are great to see, Larry. 2417 01:43:47.039 --> 01:43:48.840 And so I have a new one where it's uh 2418 01:43:49.239 --> 01:43:51.399 vlarier roots, a bunch of different things. It's for sleep 2419 01:43:51.439 --> 01:43:55.479 can and actually it says that if you have it's 2420 01:43:55.520 --> 01:43:58.640 all like natural, but if you have insomnia, and also 2421 01:43:58.680 --> 01:44:00.359 if you have anxiety, you can take it two or 2422 01:44:00.359 --> 01:44:03.319 three times a day, which so that's cool. 2423 01:44:03.800 --> 01:44:05.960 There's that. And so one of the ones that I 2424 01:44:06.000 --> 01:44:08.119 have is just called stress Relief and it has Valerian 2425 01:44:08.520 --> 01:44:11.439 passion flower and a couple other things, and it's just. 2426 01:44:11.399 --> 01:44:13.720 An alcohol tincture. And yes, that's why a couple drops 2427 01:44:13.720 --> 01:44:14.279 the water and. 2428 01:44:14.199 --> 01:44:15.159 It's I love it. 2429 01:44:15.239 --> 01:44:17.000 I take it raw though, and then so it's like 2430 01:44:17.079 --> 01:44:20.640 you're supposed to be a deep breathe, So that's where. 2431 01:44:21.319 --> 01:44:22.840 Do you take it raw? Yes? 2432 01:44:23.119 --> 01:44:25.520 Yeah, yeah, you have to ask Anton. You gotta relax 2433 01:44:25.560 --> 01:44:31.880 it work. Now back to the history Lesson. In nineteen 2434 01:44:31.960 --> 01:44:35.640 sixty Timothy Leary, a counterculture and psychedelic icon. 2435 01:44:36.800 --> 01:44:38.239 He came forward obviously. 2436 01:44:38.319 --> 01:44:41.000 He reads an article about the magic mushrooms the you 2437 01:44:41.000 --> 01:44:43.560 know the life article, He decides to make his way 2438 01:44:43.600 --> 01:44:46.239 to Mexico and tried himself. He does, and he allegedly 2439 01:44:46.279 --> 01:44:50.319 permanently changes his life. And he talks about too that 2440 01:44:50.359 --> 01:44:54.560 it's like one his one five hour trip. Uh, he 2441 01:44:55.039 --> 01:44:58.359 learned more about himself than his entire year's work, like 2442 01:44:58.399 --> 01:45:00.840 being at Harvard and all this shit of how because 2443 01:45:00.880 --> 01:45:03.039 he's a genius either way you want to slice it, 2444 01:45:03.039 --> 01:45:04.680 Timothy Leary as a very smart man. 2445 01:45:05.079 --> 01:45:07.039 Or was this man ryan to remember? 2446 01:45:07.039 --> 01:45:10.520 But I want to say he was like a Freudian psychologist, 2447 01:45:10.720 --> 01:45:15.319 and it just that whole thing was shattered technology. I 2448 01:45:15.399 --> 01:45:16.960 had no idea what he's talking about. 2449 01:45:18.000 --> 01:45:20.720 Leary says he learned more about his brain and hisself 2450 01:45:20.800 --> 01:45:22.439 during the five hour trip than he did in the 2451 01:45:22.479 --> 01:45:25.920 fifteen years of school. He returns to Harvard University, where 2452 01:45:25.920 --> 01:45:30.680 he starts the Harvard Psilocybin Project to conduct experiments based 2453 01:45:30.760 --> 01:45:34.680 around psychedelic drugs. It's all an effort that obviously proves 2454 01:45:34.680 --> 01:45:36.960 his theory that drugs can lead to a higher state 2455 01:45:37.000 --> 01:45:40.800 of consciousness. Alan Ginsberg, a beat poet, catches the wind 2456 01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:43.119 of this and heads to Cabers do drugs in the 2457 01:45:43.199 --> 01:45:46.079 name of science. He quickly becomes a big fan and 2458 01:45:46.159 --> 01:45:50.800 tells his famous friends Jack Kerouac and Charles Mingus about 2459 01:45:50.840 --> 01:45:53.560 the fun he's having and the fungus that led to 2460 01:45:54.039 --> 01:46:00.279 obviously this charge of like the changing the way he thought, Anton, 2461 01:46:00.319 --> 01:46:00.760 can you tell. 2462 01:46:00.640 --> 01:46:03.600 Me Belotle bit? Jack Carrowak ethic you because I don't. 2463 01:46:03.600 --> 01:46:04.000 I'm not so. 2464 01:46:04.239 --> 01:46:06.720 I was actually pretty obsessed with the Beats when I 2465 01:46:06.760 --> 01:46:10.239 was younger, Like, while everybody was like pretty into hippie shit. 2466 01:46:10.680 --> 01:46:11.720 I've talked about it before. 2467 01:46:11.760 --> 01:46:14.000 We had that monster movie show off Beat Cinema, and 2468 01:46:14.000 --> 01:46:16.199 in the background somebody would always be reading Howell. So 2469 01:46:16.199 --> 01:46:17.920 it's like, what the fuck is that I dig the 2470 01:46:17.920 --> 01:46:22.640 beat nicosthetic and like went into it and shit Ginsburg great, 2471 01:46:22.920 --> 01:46:26.239 great poet, complete and utter garbage human being. William S 2472 01:46:26.279 --> 01:46:30.920 Burrows same, but also just a weird chaos magician of sorts. 2473 01:46:31.159 --> 01:46:33.920 Kerauak was kind of the more normal of the three 2474 01:46:33.920 --> 01:46:36.520 of them. As a poem right, yeah, he wrote on 2475 01:46:36.560 --> 01:46:39.319 the Road, but on the Road was written under the 2476 01:46:39.359 --> 01:46:42.079 influence of Ben not Ben's a dream, but. 2477 01:46:42.079 --> 01:46:43.279 Ben's a drex or whatever. 2478 01:46:43.319 --> 01:46:43.560 The fuck. 2479 01:46:43.640 --> 01:46:46.039 The old school speed was that you would. 2480 01:46:45.880 --> 01:46:47.840 Just be able to crack open like put into coffee 2481 01:46:47.840 --> 01:46:49.520 and just fucking drink it if you wanted to. It's 2482 01:46:49.520 --> 01:46:51.880 all written on one scroll of Parish when he just 2483 01:46:51.880 --> 01:46:52.479 sat there and. 2484 01:46:52.760 --> 01:46:54.319 Trippy like wrote it out. 2485 01:46:54.319 --> 01:46:57.239 But they're all like they were the precursors to the 2486 01:46:57.319 --> 01:46:58.039 hippie movement. 2487 01:46:58.880 --> 01:47:01.399 That's fucking cool. And do you know what Charles Mingus is? 2488 01:47:02.720 --> 01:47:05.600 That name sounds familiar, but I've never completely blanket on it. 2489 01:47:06.800 --> 01:47:08.000 So they're into it. 2490 01:47:08.600 --> 01:47:12.840 But Harvard seems to grow tired of Leary Shenanigan's he's 2491 01:47:12.920 --> 01:47:15.600 fired in the mid nineteen sixties, but he doesn't care. 2492 01:47:16.199 --> 01:47:16.800 He starts. 2493 01:47:17.199 --> 01:47:20.520 He starts actually like distributing psychedelics I think even asked 2494 01:47:20.560 --> 01:47:23.119 and stuff like that through the United States at the 2495 01:47:23.159 --> 01:47:25.359 height of his hippy moon, which who knows. Because of 2496 01:47:25.399 --> 01:47:28.520 this journey, we'll probably eventually dive into Timothy Leary and 2497 01:47:28.720 --> 01:47:32.079 because the Famous Dead series, which we haven't got back 2498 01:47:32.079 --> 01:47:33.840 to yet. I have tons of ideas of who we 2499 01:47:33.840 --> 01:47:37.199 want to cover next. But I believe that like Terrence 2500 01:47:37.279 --> 01:47:40.760 mckinna and Timothy Leary should be part of that as 2501 01:47:40.800 --> 01:47:44.279 its whole. But which is crazy because now it's the 2502 01:47:44.359 --> 01:47:47.359 hippie movement, you know, it's free love in the nineteen seventies, 2503 01:47:47.399 --> 01:47:51.760 magic mushrooms officially were made illegal in America. Please don't 2504 01:47:51.760 --> 01:47:55.760 stop doing them, though, I don't know why that was 2505 01:47:55.800 --> 01:47:58.880 written in but writer, and obviously you got Terrence McKinnon 2506 01:47:59.079 --> 01:48:02.920 releases his book Psilocybin Magic Mushroom Grower's Guide in nineteen 2507 01:48:02.960 --> 01:48:05.560 seventy six, which is a huge deal. He says in 2508 01:48:05.600 --> 01:48:09.640 his book that growing shrooms is only slightly more complicated 2509 01:48:09.640 --> 01:48:13.520 than canning or making jelly Shane. 2510 01:48:13.279 --> 01:48:14.000 Do you agree? 2511 01:48:15.000 --> 01:48:17.159 Honestly, it's as long as you know the process and 2512 01:48:17.199 --> 01:48:18.439 you keep everything sterile and clean. 2513 01:48:18.840 --> 01:48:20.640 It's pretty fucking straightforward. 2514 01:48:20.920 --> 01:48:22.640 I got to pick your brain about this stuff because 2515 01:48:22.680 --> 01:48:26.119 I want because I'm I. Because the backyard I have, 2516 01:48:26.760 --> 01:48:29.920 I could easily probably grow it outside. There's like I've 2517 01:48:30.039 --> 01:48:31.199 probably different options. 2518 01:48:31.199 --> 01:48:33.119 I mean, honestly, you'd be better off growing it into 2519 01:48:33.239 --> 01:48:36.520 monotubs inside, I've heard, because you can control the environment better. 2520 01:48:36.760 --> 01:48:38.560 But the outside stuff is just for shits and giggles. 2521 01:48:38.800 --> 01:48:40.960 Do you think when you're stuff molds, throw it outside 2522 01:48:40.960 --> 01:48:42.520 and just see if it starts growing. If stuff grows, 2523 01:48:42.600 --> 01:48:44.319 just fucking take them and use them as personal shit. 2524 01:48:44.680 --> 01:48:49.159 Crazy so cool, So obviously, like fast forward all the 2525 01:48:49.159 --> 01:48:52.960 way to two thousand and eighteen, researchers at John Hopkins 2526 01:48:53.079 --> 01:48:56.359 University confirmed that magic mushrooms can be used medically to 2527 01:48:56.359 --> 01:49:00.359 treat PTSD depression anxiety can also help people quit smoking. 2528 01:49:00.920 --> 01:49:03.920 The following year, admit a mass push for a nationwide 2529 01:49:03.920 --> 01:49:09.039 decriminalization of marijuana. Denver, Colorado decriminalizes magic mushrooms. 2530 01:49:08.560 --> 01:49:10.880 And it's now. It's it's now. 2531 01:49:11.199 --> 01:49:13.560 It's not legalized, but it's a huge step because I mean, 2532 01:49:13.600 --> 01:49:19.000 in Canada, it's fucking crazy. The first Shrewmery opened in Alberta, 2533 01:49:19.920 --> 01:49:23.079 and the second Shoomury opened in Toronto, and then the 2534 01:49:23.119 --> 01:49:25.920 third one I think was in Hamilton and it got raided, uh, 2535 01:49:26.560 --> 01:49:30.199 which is crazy because like the same way it happened, 2536 01:49:30.319 --> 01:49:34.800 This happened with the fucking when they first legalized marijuana 2537 01:49:34.800 --> 01:49:36.840 in Canada, and so you see this, I'd see the 2538 01:49:36.880 --> 01:49:38.920 shop all the time, I'd get weed for them. Before 2539 01:49:38.960 --> 01:49:41.640 it was like dispensaries were everywhere, which they're in every 2540 01:49:41.760 --> 01:49:44.960 fucking corner. And the small city of Branford that's like 2541 01:49:44.960 --> 01:49:48.159 a fucking mini Toronto because of how. 2542 01:49:48.439 --> 01:49:50.720 Like just the shit that ensues there. 2543 01:49:50.760 --> 01:49:53.880 But it's tiny, comparted Toronto, and there was like literally like, 2544 01:49:54.039 --> 01:49:57.840 I don't know, fucking thirty dispensaries in this small city. 2545 01:49:57.880 --> 01:49:59.199 It's like crazy, probably more than that. 2546 01:49:59.239 --> 01:50:01.760 We joking when I lived in Colorado, where it was 2547 01:50:01.760 --> 01:50:03.199 like it got to a point where there were more 2548 01:50:03.199 --> 01:50:04.840 dispensaries than fucking Starbucks. 2549 01:50:05.079 --> 01:50:06.279 Dude broke down the. 2550 01:50:06.279 --> 01:50:08.279 Street one hundred percent. That's exactly the same thing. 2551 01:50:08.319 --> 01:50:11.039 Yeah, forever in Detroit there's eight Mile and on eight 2552 01:50:11.079 --> 01:50:12.640 Mile it was always the thing that you'd count the 2553 01:50:12.680 --> 01:50:14.800 strip clubs because it was like every other building was 2554 01:50:14.840 --> 01:50:17.560 a strip club. Bro, Now you count the dispos because 2555 01:50:17.600 --> 01:50:20.079 it's not every other building, it's every single building is 2556 01:50:20.079 --> 01:50:21.880 a fucking dispo and then here and there you'll find 2557 01:50:21.880 --> 01:50:22.479 a strip club. 2558 01:50:23.880 --> 01:50:26.239 It is crazy because because now it's so prominent, and 2559 01:50:26.279 --> 01:50:28.159 that's why I'm like, and I still buy it. But 2560 01:50:28.239 --> 01:50:30.880 there's my conspiracy brain if what the what the government 2561 01:50:30.920 --> 01:50:33.680 is spreading on this. But I've I've known people that 2562 01:50:33.760 --> 01:50:36.560 have like worked growing it and stuff like that for 2563 01:50:36.640 --> 01:50:39.680 the government, and they said, it's pretty, like other than 2564 01:50:39.720 --> 01:50:41.760 some you can't they can't tell you about everything, but 2565 01:50:41.920 --> 01:50:44.520 like how it's it's pretty. 2566 01:50:44.640 --> 01:50:46.279 They're not spraying it with ship. 2567 01:50:46.279 --> 01:50:47.479 But then you have the idea of like, what are 2568 01:50:47.520 --> 01:50:49.640 they doing to get rid of some of the ship 2569 01:50:49.680 --> 01:50:50.199 that eats it? 2570 01:50:50.319 --> 01:50:53.199 And you just gotta be there's a ton of regulations 2571 01:50:53.199 --> 01:50:54.680 that go into the spray with shit. 2572 01:50:54.760 --> 01:50:56.199 We do that ship in my work, bro, they fucking 2573 01:50:56.199 --> 01:50:58.720 spray that ship. That's what I'm worried about regularly. I 2574 01:50:58.760 --> 01:51:01.079 want to grow my own fucking shit just because of that. 2575 01:51:01.119 --> 01:51:03.439 But it's so easily and readily available as I can 2576 01:51:03.479 --> 01:51:06.159 go down the street and get it right my conspiracy brands, 2577 01:51:06.159 --> 01:51:07.760 I was like, one am I injury? Like, is it's 2578 01:51:07.800 --> 01:51:09.479 gonna be bad for me down the road? Are they 2579 01:51:09.479 --> 01:51:10.359 doing this on purpose? 2580 01:51:10.439 --> 01:51:12.640 And you know what I mean? So, but the whole 2581 01:51:12.720 --> 01:51:13.680 should we strain the rooms? 2582 01:51:13.720 --> 01:51:15.239 You gotta wait like twenty minutes so you can go 2583 01:51:15.279 --> 01:51:16.319 back in the fucking rooms. 2584 01:51:16.520 --> 01:51:18.640 But would that affect you if you're smoking it though? 2585 01:51:19.640 --> 01:51:21.680 I mean you're not like you're rinsing off the buds, 2586 01:51:21.760 --> 01:51:24.239 like the should sit somewhere crazy. 2587 01:51:24.680 --> 01:51:26.239 So obviously it's going to like it. 2588 01:51:26.359 --> 01:51:31.960 Later that same year, Oakland, California obviously decriminalizes uh, psychedelic 2589 01:51:31.960 --> 01:51:34.359 plants and fung guy, But you can't like you're where 2590 01:51:34.359 --> 01:51:37.960 you're making something that's grown naturally. Uh illegal? Is always 2591 01:51:37.960 --> 01:51:41.560 the stupidest bullshit to me. Uh, magic mushrooms have come 2592 01:51:41.720 --> 01:51:44.720 a long way. They will never be fully legal, but 2593 01:51:44.760 --> 01:51:47.199 the Duke caminalization and the medical uses a huge step. 2594 01:51:47.520 --> 01:51:49.800 And uh, I love Paul Stammets uh to bring this 2595 01:51:49.880 --> 01:51:54.159 to a close. But the there's a fantastic fun guy 2596 01:51:54.319 --> 01:51:57.479 on and I think it's on Netflix now, amazing documentary. 2597 01:51:57.800 --> 01:51:58.079 Love it. 2598 01:51:58.920 --> 01:52:01.159 A lot of time into it, and it goes into 2599 01:52:01.159 --> 01:52:02.960 the idea of fun because I take a bunch of 2600 01:52:03.000 --> 01:52:07.319 stuff now where I even want to get into taking Rashie. Sorry, 2601 01:52:07.319 --> 01:52:09.359 I playing my fucking hair because I wig fucked up 2602 01:52:09.399 --> 01:52:11.560 my hair, Like every time I wear a wig, my 2603 01:52:11.640 --> 01:52:13.000 fucking hair goes o bananas. 2604 01:52:14.359 --> 01:52:16.640 But like it, it's fucking crazy, like. 2605 01:52:16.800 --> 01:52:19.039 In all this stuff that I fucking you know, and 2606 01:52:19.199 --> 01:52:21.640 I'm glad I found like that. It's crazy because the 2607 01:52:21.680 --> 01:52:23.319 site that I used to use, I'm gonna ever shut 2608 01:52:23.359 --> 01:52:24.680 it out. But so I used to use to get 2609 01:52:24.760 --> 01:52:27.920 edibles because you can't get strong edibles and dispensaries it's 2610 01:52:27.960 --> 01:52:30.159 ten milligrams, which is fucking pathetic, Like I have. 2611 01:52:30.199 --> 01:52:32.640 To That's what I was about to say. I don't 2612 01:52:32.640 --> 01:52:34.319 know if it was me or not. I saw you 2613 01:52:34.359 --> 01:52:36.239 moving and I was like, okay, I'll give it a second. 2614 01:52:36.520 --> 01:52:40.960 There he goes. I was like, yeah, the fucking maybe, Chelsea's. 2615 01:52:41.079 --> 01:52:42.960 It's raining outside of my house. I literally thought my 2616 01:52:43.000 --> 01:52:46.119 internet went out. I was like, God, damn it. 2617 01:52:46.119 --> 01:52:49.359 It's all good though, because we're we're at the close 2618 01:52:49.399 --> 01:52:53.119 of this. And I fucking loved getting into this stuff 2619 01:52:53.119 --> 01:52:54.680 because I've wanted to do this for a while and 2620 01:52:54.720 --> 01:52:56.920 I I want to do it justice because I I 2621 01:52:56.960 --> 01:53:00.000 it's changed my fucking life, man, and like it is crazy, 2622 01:53:00.439 --> 01:53:02.000 like and I found like the set I was using 2623 01:53:02.079 --> 01:53:06.640 for edibles, and because you can't only get certain man 2624 01:53:06.680 --> 01:53:09.000 the edibles they sell the dispensaries, I'd have to eat 2625 01:53:09.079 --> 01:53:11.920 five of them to really get a good experience, Right. 2626 01:53:12.079 --> 01:53:14.239 That's my problem. Edible, how does they make in Michigan? 2627 01:53:14.319 --> 01:53:16.239 Is two hundred milligrams on an edible that I've. 2628 01:53:16.039 --> 01:53:18.039 Seen that that's way better. 2629 01:53:18.079 --> 01:53:21.239 They could only sell to ten ten milligrams the highest 2630 01:53:21.720 --> 01:53:23.920 that they can sell in the dispensaries. 2631 01:53:23.960 --> 01:53:26.239 And I talked to well, that's a full package, like 2632 01:53:26.319 --> 01:53:28.279 you know, the little each individual gummies. The highest I'll 2633 01:53:28.279 --> 01:53:29.399 see is like twenty per gummy. 2634 01:53:29.560 --> 01:53:32.680 Mm hmm. I'm saying ten and they'll give you my own. 2635 01:53:32.720 --> 01:53:35.039 They will give you a package of one edible as 2636 01:53:35.079 --> 01:53:37.199 ten milligrams, or a drink that's only ten milligrams. 2637 01:53:37.239 --> 01:53:38.399 And I talked to the chick. I was like, you 2638 01:53:38.439 --> 01:53:41.000 can fuck off. I need at least like fifty sixty. 2639 01:53:41.199 --> 01:53:44.520 I need at least yeah, fifty forty to fifty, maybe sixty. 2640 01:53:44.920 --> 01:53:46.600 I used to eat these suckers from the site I'm 2641 01:53:46.640 --> 01:53:48.520 talking about, and they're one hundred and twenty five. And 2642 01:53:48.560 --> 01:53:51.560 that was like a perfect stone right where it's not 2643 01:53:51.600 --> 01:53:54.560 overboard where I told Anton I got a thousand milligram edible. 2644 01:53:54.800 --> 01:53:57.680 I thought it was a bunch of edibles. It was one. 2645 01:53:57.800 --> 01:53:59.479 It look get an ice cream combe me and Chelsea 2646 01:53:59.600 --> 01:54:02.279 cut the off and then we cut it again, and 2647 01:54:02.399 --> 01:54:04.720 I thought I was gonna die, and she was. 2648 01:54:04.840 --> 01:54:06.399 She was this, She's like, I'm just super high. 2649 01:54:06.439 --> 01:54:09.479 She kept saying like this will be done eventually. Eventually, 2650 01:54:09.560 --> 01:54:12.000 I will this will be gone. I will not be 2651 01:54:12.119 --> 01:54:15.640 like this anymore. And I was like, like, try to 2652 01:54:15.680 --> 01:54:17.520 fucking breathe and thinking I was dying. And the one 2653 01:54:17.520 --> 01:54:19.479 time I thought I had COVID during like the COVID night, 2654 01:54:19.520 --> 01:54:21.399 because I couldn't breathe, and she was like, just get 2655 01:54:21.399 --> 01:54:23.399 COVID within an hour, and I was like, yeah, you're right, 2656 01:54:24.560 --> 01:54:25.159 But like, is it. 2657 01:54:25.119 --> 01:54:27.800 A regular thing for edibles that you forget that you 2658 01:54:27.840 --> 01:54:28.600 know how to breathe. 2659 01:54:28.720 --> 01:54:31.159 It's weird, but it's the strangest thing. Yeah, it's just 2660 01:54:31.199 --> 01:54:33.119 like it's like, oh shit, my breathings on manual. I 2661 01:54:33.119 --> 01:54:35.880 gotta yeah it is. I'm good. 2662 01:54:36.239 --> 01:54:39.039 So, like I talked to the one and I was like, hey, dy, 2663 01:54:39.079 --> 01:54:42.279 have alcohol everywhere, something that causes fights, something that like 2664 01:54:42.399 --> 01:54:46.039 people become maniacs on. And I can vouch for even 2665 01:54:46.079 --> 01:54:48.600 me with sometimes I've been drunk on shit like that. 2666 01:54:48.840 --> 01:54:51.119 I became a happy drunk throughout my years, but I 2667 01:54:51.199 --> 01:54:53.680 was a teenager with all my mental health issues. I 2668 01:54:53.760 --> 01:54:56.439 went kind of fucking nuts at times. And the fact 2669 01:54:56.479 --> 01:54:58.359 that you can buy a twenty sixer, Okay, you can 2670 01:54:58.359 --> 01:55:01.439 buy forty, you can buy six. If you choose to 2671 01:55:01.560 --> 01:55:04.560 drink that all in one fucking sitting, that's your choice. 2672 01:55:04.600 --> 01:55:07.800 They allow that to happen. But with edibles, they're. 2673 01:55:07.600 --> 01:55:10.039 Like, oh, if somebody has something happened to them, and 2674 01:55:10.079 --> 01:55:12.159 it's it's like you have the choice to take this 2675 01:55:12.359 --> 01:55:14.600 much or whatever. So the idea that we can we 2676 01:55:14.960 --> 01:55:17.760 focus our whole fucking culture on alcohol a lot of times, 2677 01:55:18.119 --> 01:55:21.079 and there's lcbos or whatever, fucking beer stores or whatever 2678 01:55:21.199 --> 01:55:25.399 are everywhere, but like second alcs are fucking weed you 2679 01:55:25.479 --> 01:55:29.840 can't have because what like, honestly, it's fucking stupid. 2680 01:55:31.239 --> 01:55:34.520 Things to me, is that they view weed like alcohol. 2681 01:55:34.560 --> 01:55:36.800 They're like, you can't drive because it's just like alcohol. 2682 01:55:36.920 --> 01:55:38.840 You can't do this because it's just like alcohol. Like, no, bro, 2683 01:55:38.920 --> 01:55:40.720 it can be as stone as I fucking want to be. 2684 01:55:41.039 --> 01:55:43.520 I'm totally fine driving if I drink like three drinks. 2685 01:55:43.359 --> 01:55:45.119 Bro, I'm not exactly. 2686 01:55:45.800 --> 01:55:50.039 Yeah, that's why I'm i'man an avid summertime bicyclists in 2687 01:55:50.079 --> 01:55:52.279 the in the city with all my friends because we 2688 01:55:52.319 --> 01:55:54.600 just love getting you know, backpack beers and going for 2689 01:55:54.600 --> 01:55:56.000 mike rides because I'm not gett behind the wheel of 2690 01:55:56.000 --> 01:55:58.279 a fucking car. But weed, you can smoke that fucking 2691 01:55:58.319 --> 01:55:59.800 all day every day. I mean, I've been sitting here 2692 01:55:59.800 --> 01:56:02.640 in this the whole time. Yeah, and uh yeah, no, 2693 01:56:02.720 --> 01:56:05.720 it's it's just it's not even kind of the fucking same. 2694 01:56:05.520 --> 01:56:10.239 Thing that I don't even realize that I'm stoned anymore. Yeah, exactly. 2695 01:56:10.279 --> 01:56:11.119 That's no, that's like. 2696 01:56:11.079 --> 01:56:12.800 Literally hitting this packt the entire episode. 2697 01:56:12.840 --> 01:56:16.119 Yeah, no, it's it's not even it's not even mildly 2698 01:56:16.159 --> 01:56:19.520 the same. So I have every experienced smoker knows that. 2699 01:56:19.680 --> 01:56:20.880 So I have a chart pulled up. 2700 01:56:20.880 --> 01:56:23.199 This is your second ELC experience of psilocyber experience. 2701 01:56:23.239 --> 01:56:24.199 So this is so. 2702 01:56:24.159 --> 01:56:26.079 People can break it down that maybe I've never tried it. 2703 01:56:26.119 --> 01:56:28.279 You start small, that's always tell people. And I'll do 2704 01:56:28.319 --> 01:56:31.119 a whole video about this for YouTube. But obviously you 2705 01:56:31.159 --> 01:56:35.199 have like a point five is you know, is like 2706 01:56:35.239 --> 01:56:40.560 a mood enhancement, crisp concentration. Your flow state will get better, 2707 01:56:40.840 --> 01:56:43.479 and then you get like, you know, close to a gram, 2708 01:56:43.520 --> 01:56:47.079 you might be feeling stone, mild euphoria, visual enhancements, short 2709 01:56:47.159 --> 01:56:49.479 term memory anomalies, alternate sounds. 2710 01:56:49.520 --> 01:56:50.920 Then when you better hit a Graham. 2711 01:56:51.119 --> 01:56:54.600 Graham is the is the threshold that's lift off, as 2712 01:56:54.600 --> 01:56:56.880 Paul Stamens would say, And that's when you become you 2713 01:56:56.920 --> 01:57:01.439 see some more vivid colors, closed eyes, visuals, you know, 2714 01:57:01.560 --> 01:57:04.199 distracted thought patterns, enhanced creativity. 2715 01:57:04.600 --> 01:57:04.800 Uh. 2716 01:57:04.840 --> 01:57:06.960 And then once you get started getting like two grams 2717 01:57:07.000 --> 01:57:12.359 to three point five, that's warped kaleidoscope style visions, which 2718 01:57:12.359 --> 01:57:16.079 I've definitely seen numerous times mild hallucinations, three D closed 2719 01:57:16.119 --> 01:57:20.560 eyes visuals, and then distorted sense of time. And then 2720 01:57:20.560 --> 01:57:23.640 obviously the heavy dose when you get three point five 2721 01:57:23.680 --> 01:57:27.880 to five is heavy hallucinations. Ego, your ego dissolves, uh, 2722 01:57:28.000 --> 01:57:30.920 you know, mild disconnect from reality, complete loss of time, 2723 01:57:31.079 --> 01:57:32.239 out of body experiences. 2724 01:57:32.319 --> 01:57:33.479 And then obviously five. 2725 01:57:33.359 --> 01:57:36.479 Plus is like we're ego death where you like, like 2726 01:57:36.560 --> 01:57:39.159 you you see yourself beyond all this bullshit. 2727 01:57:39.199 --> 01:57:41.239 You completely disconnect from what reality is. 2728 01:57:41.840 --> 01:57:45.159 And I've learned that from my experience with psychedelics, reality 2729 01:57:45.399 --> 01:57:46.840 is not as real as we. 2730 01:57:46.840 --> 01:57:50.239 Think it is. I've seen fucking grids in the sky, bro. 2731 01:57:51.760 --> 01:57:55.199 I told geometry, fucking building block shit, just like. 2732 01:57:55.319 --> 01:57:56.279 I told the Anti about this one. 2733 01:57:56.439 --> 01:57:58.199 We're outside, We're like we used to want we do 2734 01:57:58.279 --> 01:58:02.600 psychedelics all how much movies outside taking mushrooms, watching movies, 2735 01:58:02.640 --> 01:58:04.159 and I'd like a lot of times like I knew 2736 01:58:04.199 --> 01:58:05.960 the movie, or like we were like a lot of 2737 01:58:05.960 --> 01:58:07.920 times you watch them, like yeah, we knew. We watched 2738 01:58:07.920 --> 01:58:09.880 like Signs, which was actually kind of fun watching that 2739 01:58:09.880 --> 01:58:13.279 shit outside Buy a fire and I just look up 2740 01:58:13.319 --> 01:58:15.119 in the sky and I can see the stars and 2741 01:58:15.119 --> 01:58:17.000 they're connecting in like a grid formation. 2742 01:58:17.079 --> 01:58:21.600 It was fucking crazy. I was like, whoam fucking nuts? 2743 01:58:22.279 --> 01:58:24.079 Have you guys ever seen the movie Chicken, Little Bro 2744 01:58:24.159 --> 01:58:26.279 where like the bridge falls out of the sky. 2745 01:58:26.239 --> 01:58:28.279 Yeah, that's what it looked like to me. Oh shit, 2746 01:58:29.720 --> 01:58:30.479 it is crazy. 2747 01:58:30.640 --> 01:58:33.760 The dome and uh, you know what to end this like, 2748 01:58:33.960 --> 01:58:38.199 I will personally say that psychedelics have changed my life 2749 01:58:38.600 --> 01:58:42.479 Anton since you started this show with me more than 2750 01:58:42.520 --> 01:58:43.119 a year ago. 2751 01:58:43.279 --> 01:58:45.439 Have you seen the change in me? 2752 01:58:45.960 --> 01:58:46.119 Oh? 2753 01:58:46.159 --> 01:58:47.159 Yeah, absolutely? 2754 01:58:47.199 --> 01:58:49.039 And I really wanted when you were showing all those pictures. 2755 01:58:49.039 --> 01:58:50.079 I want to be like, we get it. 2756 01:58:50.119 --> 01:58:50.279 Bro. 2757 01:58:50.439 --> 01:58:53.039 You listen to Tools, shut the fuck up. And I don't 2758 01:58:53.079 --> 01:58:53.880 like how Tool. 2759 01:58:53.720 --> 01:58:57.399 Took Alex Grays like it just it's. 2760 01:58:56.680 --> 01:58:57.920 Did a ton of art for Tools. 2761 01:58:58.000 --> 01:58:58.199 I know. 2762 01:58:58.359 --> 01:59:02.520 I just don't like we're like this like Tool. I'm sorry, 2763 01:59:02.520 --> 01:59:04.000 Adam Jones and Alex Gray work. 2764 01:59:04.079 --> 01:59:05.319 I don't like toolular opinion. 2765 01:59:05.359 --> 01:59:06.840 I'm also not a fan of Tool, even though I 2766 01:59:06.840 --> 01:59:08.119 am a psych not Yeah. 2767 01:59:07.920 --> 01:59:09.119 I don't like Tool. I'm sorry. 2768 01:59:09.159 --> 01:59:11.199 I loved Tool back in the day, like when I 2769 01:59:11.239 --> 01:59:11.880 was a teenager. 2770 01:59:11.960 --> 01:59:13.720 Tool was the ship, but it was like you. 2771 01:59:13.680 --> 01:59:16.920 Know, math rock, and it was the first that's version 2772 01:59:16.920 --> 01:59:18.239 of that I'd ever heard, and I was like, Wow, 2773 01:59:18.279 --> 01:59:21.159 this is like fucking awesome. Maynard's a piece of shit. 2774 01:59:21.319 --> 01:59:23.000 I saw them live. It was the worst show that 2775 01:59:23.039 --> 01:59:25.039 I saw that year, and I was just like, yeah, 2776 01:59:25.039 --> 01:59:25.800 I'm fucking over this. 2777 01:59:26.039 --> 01:59:30.600 So this image, there's a famous as Gray art of 2778 01:59:30.680 --> 01:59:32.560 like a guy laying on his bed and seeing all 2779 01:59:32.600 --> 01:59:34.960 the eyes. There was a time I took four grams 2780 01:59:35.000 --> 01:59:37.800 of mushrooms and Charlesto. 2781 01:59:37.520 --> 01:59:39.279 To cover for the Spirit Molecule that book. 2782 01:59:39.840 --> 01:59:43.199 Did that artwork for that book. Chelsea's upstairs doing something. 2783 01:59:43.199 --> 01:59:45.119 I don't know she was on them too. But I 2784 01:59:45.239 --> 01:59:47.119 laid down and I had a fucking blind full. I 2785 01:59:47.159 --> 01:59:49.359 put on my eyes and I laid there and I 2786 01:59:49.560 --> 01:59:52.560 literally looked like a thousand eyes were looking at me. 2787 01:59:52.600 --> 01:59:53.600 And I was like, no, not for. 2788 01:59:53.560 --> 01:59:57.399 That, because I've said the anton that I want to 2789 01:59:57.439 --> 01:59:59.399 dive into that stuff eventually. 2790 02:00:00.920 --> 02:00:02.039 Just another weird observation. 2791 02:00:02.079 --> 02:00:04.560 If you're guys ever taken a shower on psychedelics where 2792 02:00:04.600 --> 02:00:06.960 you just feel like you're in this giant, empty vat room, 2793 02:00:07.039 --> 02:00:09.119 it almost feels like that shit from like Stranger Things, 2794 02:00:09.119 --> 02:00:12.039 where it's just like the dark, fucking black area with 2795 02:00:12.039 --> 02:00:14.520 like water on the floor. It's like the most creepy, 2796 02:00:14.520 --> 02:00:16.880 ominous feeling to take a shower on psychedelics, especially when 2797 02:00:16.880 --> 02:00:17.680 you close your fucking eyes. 2798 02:00:18.399 --> 02:00:20.760 So like running, like I said before, running water centers me. 2799 02:00:20.840 --> 02:00:23.199 So if I get really like if i'm having like 2800 02:00:23.199 --> 02:00:25.600 like okay, I'm mild panic or what have you, I 2801 02:00:25.640 --> 02:00:28.039 will go and like I do this mental exercise where 2802 02:00:28.039 --> 02:00:31.720 it's like the water hits you, it turns muddy and crappy, 2803 02:00:31.840 --> 02:00:34.880 and then once the water runs clear, you're good. Like 2804 02:00:35.039 --> 02:00:39.199 I've always wanted to do at least three or four 2805 02:00:39.199 --> 02:00:41.720 grams and go into a sensory deprivation tank because I've 2806 02:00:41.760 --> 02:00:45.319 gone demo tanks, which I love, but I want that 2807 02:00:45.359 --> 02:00:48.840 to be the floating darkness, Like I want to try that. 2808 02:00:48.960 --> 02:00:50.439 I'm at the point where it's like, you know, give 2809 02:00:50.439 --> 02:00:52.399 me a battle that'll either kill me or set me free. 2810 02:00:52.479 --> 02:00:52.800 Let's go. 2811 02:00:53.359 --> 02:00:56.239 You're gonna be in another world at that point, the world. 2812 02:00:57.079 --> 02:00:59.439 My buddy that's been on the show before I stuff 2813 02:00:59.439 --> 02:01:01.520 like that. He's got me super into the stuff, like 2814 02:01:01.840 --> 02:01:06.159 way beforehand, like I've told Anton stuff off air which 2815 02:01:06.199 --> 02:01:08.039 I won't mention, but like I mixed a bunch of 2816 02:01:08.039 --> 02:01:12.680 shit stupidly and had crazy paranoia ingesting like mushrooms and 2817 02:01:12.680 --> 02:01:15.880 some other stuff. But raz he owned. He ended up 2818 02:01:15.920 --> 02:01:17.720 selling it, but he owned a float studio where they 2819 02:01:17.720 --> 02:01:21.479 would do. He also has his girlfriend's very spiritual and 2820 02:01:21.479 --> 02:01:24.159 they would do like they would do ceremonies and like 2821 02:01:24.279 --> 02:01:27.079 sound circles or whatever and all this shit. And I 2822 02:01:27.079 --> 02:01:29.800 did the first time I did the tank, I like 2823 02:01:29.880 --> 02:01:31.640 rubbed my eyes, that'd salt my eyes. 2824 02:01:31.680 --> 02:01:35.600 I couldn't get comfortable, and I like it wasn't the greatest. 2825 02:01:35.640 --> 02:01:38.039 And then I tried again, was nice calming, but he's 2826 02:01:38.119 --> 02:01:39.920 I was like, he did like three he did like 2827 02:01:39.960 --> 02:01:43.600 a half quarter in Canada terms at three point five 2828 02:01:43.760 --> 02:01:45.960 and did it and he's like, it's fucking crazy. He's like, 2829 02:01:46.000 --> 02:01:48.520 you couldn't imagine the type of feelings that you get 2830 02:01:48.560 --> 02:01:51.800 and see and things you go through. And but yeah, 2831 02:01:51.960 --> 02:01:55.600 psychedelics have changed my fucking life, well specifically magic mushrooms. 2832 02:01:55.880 --> 02:01:58.279 I'll get back to you when I try LSD. But 2833 02:01:58.600 --> 02:02:00.920 I really enjoyed this. 2834 02:02:02.479 --> 02:02:05.399 Yes, get your passport, come down for bicycle day because 2835 02:02:05.399 --> 02:02:07.720 I'm really trying to convince a good chunk of my 2836 02:02:07.760 --> 02:02:10.600 friends to do just trip and ride our bikes that day. 2837 02:02:10.800 --> 02:02:11.000 Yes. 2838 02:02:11.479 --> 02:02:13.239 Uh so, let's bring it to a close. Because it's 2839 02:02:13.239 --> 02:02:15.520 been two hours. We have yet to pee. I also 2840 02:02:15.680 --> 02:02:18.680 have to. Uh so, yeah you saw my little message. 2841 02:02:18.960 --> 02:02:21.760 I was like, yeah, I've been fucking for it too. 2842 02:02:21.840 --> 02:02:23.439 So this is what happens when we get like there's 2843 02:02:23.439 --> 02:02:26.079 sometimes like on the Antartic episode, I was like, yeah, 2844 02:02:26.119 --> 02:02:27.920 we gotta like take a break. It's like fucking two 2845 02:02:27.960 --> 02:02:28.800 and a half hours in. 2846 02:02:29.399 --> 02:02:31.800 For once, I don't have to. I always have to piss. 2847 02:02:31.880 --> 02:02:34.000 Like twenty minutes into the episode, I didn't drink anything, 2848 02:02:34.039 --> 02:02:35.359 and all I've been doing is smoking, So I'm like, 2849 02:02:35.399 --> 02:02:37.960 I drink. I don't have to piss. 2850 02:02:38.399 --> 02:02:40.840 Noodle Energy drink got me all fuel. 2851 02:02:40.960 --> 02:02:41.199 Nice. 2852 02:02:41.359 --> 02:02:43.800 Nice, We'll stay away from that ship. I do not 2853 02:02:43.880 --> 02:02:45.279 like energy drinks anyway, Dude. 2854 02:02:45.319 --> 02:02:47.279 I drink bang like it's fucking water. At this point, 2855 02:02:47.319 --> 02:02:47.880 it's bad. 2856 02:02:48.520 --> 02:02:51.600 This is my one, the g fueled Naruto stage Mode thing, 2857 02:02:51.600 --> 02:02:53.439 and it's a limited edition one. So I'm pretty bummed 2858 02:02:53.439 --> 02:02:55.359 out because there's one gas station I know that has these, 2859 02:02:55.359 --> 02:02:56.920 and I've been buying everyone that I can find, and 2860 02:02:57.039 --> 02:02:57.359 I see you. 2861 02:02:57.439 --> 02:02:59.119 Every time I drink it ergy drink. I feel like 2862 02:02:59.159 --> 02:03:02.840 I'm a cocaine have a hear attack, but so. 2863 02:03:03.039 --> 02:03:04.359 I want to feel like I kind of dig it though. 2864 02:03:04.600 --> 02:03:07.199 Dude, Okay, so fun fact, I mean you you know, uh, 2865 02:03:07.239 --> 02:03:09.800 you know what I party and what have you at 2866 02:03:09.800 --> 02:03:12.960 the bars. I would much rather like crack a bang 2867 02:03:13.119 --> 02:03:16.039 or like a heavy super heavy caffeine and energy drink 2868 02:03:16.039 --> 02:03:19.000 after like midnight of drinking to continue drinking then start 2869 02:03:19.039 --> 02:03:20.239 doing bumps like that. 2870 02:03:20.920 --> 02:03:24.159 Well neither for me. So obviously, you know, I hope 2871 02:03:24.159 --> 02:03:26.000 you guys really enjoyed this episode. I thought it was 2872 02:03:26.039 --> 02:03:28.119 pretty cool. Uh And I always want to dive into 2873 02:03:28.159 --> 02:03:31.039 this considering how much you know, mushrooms have changed my 2874 02:03:31.119 --> 02:03:33.199 life and the way I think and stuff like that. 2875 02:03:33.560 --> 02:03:35.800 And uh so obviously you know where to find us 2876 02:03:35.800 --> 02:03:42.840 Stranger Podcast, Stranger podcast dot com and uh. 2877 02:03:41.680 --> 02:03:43.319 Shane shot with two cents. 2878 02:03:43.399 --> 02:03:46.800 Yeah, Shane, shout out all your shit. I try to 2879 02:03:46.800 --> 02:03:47.600 make it quick and easy. 2880 02:03:47.640 --> 02:03:50.800 I do multiple shows increase in all reality bizarre encounters, 2881 02:03:51.279 --> 02:03:53.199 but I put it all under one kind of name 2882 02:03:53.439 --> 02:03:55.399 as Open Minds Media. So if you want to come 2883 02:03:55.439 --> 02:03:57.119 and find all of the different shows that I do, 2884 02:03:57.159 --> 02:03:59.279 come and check out the Open Minds Media link tree, 2885 02:03:59.359 --> 02:04:01.600 which is a L A and K t R period 2886 02:04:01.600 --> 02:04:04.640 E slash Open Underscore Minds, Underscore Media. 2887 02:04:05.119 --> 02:04:07.680 Yes, and there's obviously, uh, there's obviously stuff in the 2888 02:04:07.760 --> 02:04:11.479 works to actually create a YouTube show with Shane that 2889 02:04:11.520 --> 02:04:15.319 will just be specifically for YouTube, because he's gonna build 2890 02:04:15.399 --> 02:04:18.079 up YouTube and create one too. So there's there's stuff 2891 02:04:18.079 --> 02:04:22.119 in the works. Uh, So obviously be prepared and look 2892 02:04:22.159 --> 02:04:24.039 for that stuff because I will let you guys know 2893 02:04:24.119 --> 02:04:25.920 when we start really doing this, when we get the 2894 02:04:25.960 --> 02:04:28.439 first episode, and then you know, I'll get you. Go 2895 02:04:28.479 --> 02:04:31.359 subscribe to Shane's show, show him some love, give him 2896 02:04:31.359 --> 02:04:33.720 a five star review. I had a lot of fun 2897 02:04:33.760 --> 02:04:36.840 with this and Shane Man your rock star. You'll definitely 2898 02:04:36.880 --> 02:04:39.920 hear Shane on a Patriot episode for a Stranger Danger 2899 02:04:40.039 --> 02:04:41.439 and then we can kind of really get to know 2900 02:04:41.520 --> 02:04:42.560 each other and stuff like that. 2901 02:04:43.359 --> 02:04:45.000 Fuck yeah, Shane, thanks for joining us, dude. 2902 02:04:45.000 --> 02:04:46.680 This was a blast, a real good time. 2903 02:04:46.680 --> 02:04:48.199 I can't wait to talk more about this ship too. 2904 02:04:48.279 --> 02:04:48.520 Yes. 2905 02:04:48.760 --> 02:04:51.000 Fuck, I was gonna say thanks for feeling me on guys, 2906 02:04:51.039 --> 02:04:52.680 and I'll have to get both of you guys individually 2907 02:04:52.680 --> 02:04:54.359 and my show at that time a long time ago. 2908 02:04:54.760 --> 02:04:56.720 I still gotta get you because we missed the show 2909 02:04:56.720 --> 02:04:58.039 on Somebody whatever. 2910 02:04:59.479 --> 02:05:02.199 Yeah, you gotta we'll work it all out. We absolutely will, yeah, 2911 02:05:02.279 --> 02:05:03.000 one hundred percent. 2912 02:05:03.439 --> 02:05:05.920 Tons of stuff in the works, obviously, and I'm super 2913 02:05:05.960 --> 02:05:08.399 excited because look out, you know, subscribe to the YouTube 2914 02:05:08.920 --> 02:05:11.720 Stranger podcast because we probably will be doing eventually like 2915 02:05:11.720 --> 02:05:14.239 a psychedelical live where we discussed like Elks as a whole. 2916 02:05:14.560 --> 02:05:16.439 So go shit, you know, go fucking you know what, 2917 02:05:16.479 --> 02:05:18.680 you know what to do, Stay strange your pieces of shit, 2918 02:05:21.079 --> 02:05:23.640 all right, peace. 2919 02:05:23.800 --> 02:05:26.840 A wake up late, a stamplate, anyway to escape? I 2920 02:05:26.960 --> 02:05:30.039 fine it, diddy this, I'm a slave. I'm reminded that 2921 02:05:30.119 --> 02:05:32.640 I hate the way this world been searching for a 2922 02:05:32.720 --> 02:05:36.399 purpose worthless. My nerves get a tense when I sentenced 2923 02:05:36.439 --> 02:05:38.640 a bad vibe and now I'm sick of hearing black 2924 02:05:38.680 --> 02:05:41.880 guys rum about how they blast nice. Well that's fine, 2925 02:05:42.119 --> 02:05:45.159 but it's so repetitive. You're probably being massed at the ship. 2926 02:05:45.439 --> 02:05:48.000 But you go like rossive senselessness, and then for your 2927 02:05:48.079 --> 02:05:50.840 tennis staff my head's sake, and not try not to 2928 02:05:50.920 --> 02:05:54.279 mention that because our friends are quick to judge. Listen enough, 2929 02:05:54.600 --> 02:05:56.920 I don't give a ship because this world's nothing but 2930 02:05:57.039 --> 02:06:00.399 a dream and world leaders fuck kids discussing us as 2931 02:06:00.640 --> 02:06:03.560 this world of corruption and greed is something in me 2932 02:06:03.920 --> 02:06:04.600 and all of us. 2933 02:06:04.640 --> 02:06:06.840 When you look in the mirror and nobody's all you see, 2934 02:06:07.039 --> 02:06:08.520 and guys call your slots. 2935 02:06:08.199 --> 02:06:11.560 Behind your back, you'll find it sad. The man's focuses 2936 02:06:11.640 --> 02:06:14.680 on a fine ass, and time has changed, and what 2937 02:06:14.920 --> 02:06:17.840 and all this child not just mind this and brainwashed, 2938 02:06:18.239 --> 02:06:24.800 all brags of the same god. All the children not 2939 02:06:25.119 --> 02:06:27.880 just mind the same pray wash, all brag to the 2940 02:06:27.920 --> 02:06:33.479 same god, all bray to the same God. 2941 02:06:33.640 --> 02:06:35.680 And hell, I want to go off and go to 2942 02:06:35.720 --> 02:06:37.600 work for work, for what money? 2943 02:06:37.640 --> 02:06:39.039 I got all the money in the world. 2944 02:06:39.359 --> 02:06:42.039 I'm a king man. I'll running underworld. 2945 02:06:42.079 --> 02:06:45.079 Guys, I decide who does what and where they do it? 2946 02:06:45.079 --> 02:06:46.920 At what am I gonna run around? 2947 02:06:46.960 --> 02:06:49.199 And after I got some geenie boxer somewhere for somebody 2948 02:06:49.199 --> 02:06:49.840 else's money. 2949 02:06:50.399 --> 02:06:51.479 I need the money man. 2950 02:06:52.079 --> 02:06:56.079 I wrote games, mindy, a lot of Place, and nine 2951 02:06:56.119 --> 02:06:58.640 plays while I wait for these PAGs run out of space. 2952 02:06:58.840 --> 02:07:01.439 You think thre million mine away, But the ring your 2953 02:07:01.520 --> 02:07:04.039 room watching you, my stairt them not a bother to 2954 02:07:04.600 --> 02:07:07.000 know it all. And I hope my balls, that's troll 2955 02:07:07.119 --> 02:07:10.199 done the halls thinking that was God looking forl wishing 2956 02:07:10.239 --> 02:07:13.319 strong as reality is hitting hard, Let's go to a 2957 02:07:13.319 --> 02:07:14.159 different galaxy. 2958 02:07:14.399 --> 02:07:16.479 Is in foved Get in the car and hit the 2959 02:07:16.560 --> 02:07:17.520 gas and get. 2960 02:07:17.319 --> 02:07:18.640 My ass to somewhere new. 2961 02:07:18.800 --> 02:07:21.399 For people of arege scanned too, fight to win and 2962 02:07:21.520 --> 02:07:23.720 they don't care if you fucking leg damn or not, 2963 02:07:23.960 --> 02:07:26.920 because we're all fighting for the same cause. They want's 2964 02:07:26.920 --> 02:07:30.319 mindless and brainwashed, praying to the same god, one world 2965 02:07:30.399 --> 02:07:33.439 under one government. They have curs will love the sick. 2966 02:07:33.640 --> 02:07:36.159 You wonder why trucks exists. I've had enough of this. 2967 02:07:36.520 --> 02:07:39.000 They're a duffing kids as the force to suck dick 2968 02:07:39.359 --> 02:07:42.199 all these factist, fucking pigs as disgusting as it is 2969 02:07:42.279 --> 02:07:45.560 into reality living in n fallacy, which is actually a 2970 02:07:45.640 --> 02:07:50.000 holographic galaxy. To the research, always jump feet first because 2971 02:07:50.079 --> 02:07:52.479 it will change how you see Earth. The way we 2972 02:07:52.600 --> 02:07:55.600 eat dirt, entry each other makes me hurt to my 2973 02:07:55.720 --> 02:07:56.359 inner card. 2974 02:07:56.680 --> 02:07:58.840 We should be given more to the part. 2975 02:07:59.159 --> 02:08:00.760 As the doors are came close? 2976 02:08:01.239 --> 02:08:02.560 Is this living hell? 2977 02:08:02.680 --> 02:08:14.880 No? Y? 2978 02:08:16.800 --> 02:08:19.960 How have your w How do you know you're in 2979 02:08:20.000 --> 02:08:20.520 the jungle? 2980 02:08:20.840 --> 02:08:23.720 How do you are in your heart? Yeah said, that's 2981 02:08:23.760 --> 02:08:25.000 what I think, That's who you know? 2982 02:08:25.159 --> 02:08:25.960 Just you know this. 2983 02:08:26.640 --> 02:08:27.720 However, I feel feel