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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho.

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This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, we're

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going to bring you this week's episode of The Big Story.

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But first I do want to let you know about

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our other podcast, and I want to encourage you to

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wherever you get your podcast from, or at our website

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at Great Adventures dot impo. Well Now from January twenty second,

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nineteen forty nine, here is the Jigsaw Crime.

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Speaker 2: Well No Famous Cigarette presents the Big Story.

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Speaker 3: Two foam conversations place about the same time, one between

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a man named Tom Cooey and his wife.

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Speaker 4: Don't talk like that, Tom Dog. I can't help it

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to you.

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Speaker 3: If he goes I'm like this, I swear I'll kill him.

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Speaker 5: Ed Rumley's a crump.

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Speaker 4: You won't do anything.

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Speaker 2: Some partner lazy lies to me, never does any work,

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blames me.

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Speaker 3: I swear one more stunt like that one in Galaston,

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and I swear I'll kill him. The other was between

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the first man's partner Ed Rumley and his brother and Galison.

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Speaker 6: He pockets fifty bucks. I know it for a fat

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jack fifty bucks. I need tell me took in twenty

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five and foot step with me.

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Speaker 5: Look and talk to him. He's your partner.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, my partner, some partner, some swindler.

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Speaker 6: I'll tell you one thing, Jackie. One more deal like that,

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just one Tom Cooey's gonna be a dead man.

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Speaker 2: The big story here is America. It's found in its fury,

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it's joy, and it's sorrow. As batically reported by the

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men and women of the.

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Speaker 5: Great American newspapers.

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Speaker 2: Little Rock, Arkansas on the pages of the Arkansas Gazette,

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the story of a puzzle whose pieces would not match

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until a reporter put them together.

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Speaker 5: Then they spelled murder.

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Speaker 2: Joseph Wurgius of the Little Rock, Arkansas Gazette, for his

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brilliant work in this jigsaw crime, goes the pell Mell

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Award for the Big Story. Now, the story as it

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actually happened, Joe Worgers' story as he lived it, Little Rock, Arkansas.

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Speaker 3: All your life, you Joe Worgis of the Arkansas Gazette,

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did one thing well.

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Speaker 6: The police reporting.

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Speaker 4: He did it so well.

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Speaker 3: There wasn't a crime committed in Little Rock in the

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last thirty one years, and most of Arkansas for that matter,

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that you weren't connected with, not just reporting it, but helping, sleuthing,

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asking questions, finding answer. So at fifty five you were

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something of a legend in Little Rock. No crime was

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complete without Joe Orgis on the spot. And that was

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why you were sore at the young new lieutenant homicide

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Sam hauled saw because the first you knew of it

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was when you.

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Speaker 5: Heard hauld his report.

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Speaker 3: Arnie found an empty lot adjacent to farm of sy Travers,

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Rose City, two miles north of Little Rock, dead one week,

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face disfigured, clues, none, identification impossible. You've got to the

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scene of the crime, Travers farm two hours after the

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police two hours. Usually you beat them by at least

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half an hour. With your son Jean or Cob on

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the paper. You walk up to the new lieutenant two

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hours late and say it right out, what's the idea?

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Speaker 5: Eh? Oh, hello, Joe, what's the idea?

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Speaker 6: Lieutenant? You know my son Jeans hiet what idea? Well,

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don't I read anymore? Man's murdered. No clues, identification, difficult.

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Don't you call me anymore?

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Speaker 5: Ah, Look, Joe, the weather is bad.

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Speaker 3: I got the news at seven this morning, and it's

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a goose chase.

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Speaker 6: I didn't want to.

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Speaker 3: Get you out of better Necessarily, I'm used to cold weather,

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bad weather, any.

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Speaker 6: Kind of weather, and I like school chases. Maybe you

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think I'm getting old?

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Speaker 5: Is that?

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Speaker 7: Ah?

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Speaker 4: Credits?

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Speaker 5: You know? I respect you and all that.

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Speaker 6: Okay, okay, now what do you mean? Identification is difficulty

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my report?

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Speaker 5: I said impossible.

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Speaker 6: No such a thing, Lieutenant, Where is he down that dip?

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Where the cop is? Can I look? Take a few pictures.

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No such thing as impossible.

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Speaker 5: You're quite a guy, aren't you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and let's walk on over.

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Speaker 3: I wrote identification impossible on my report because one, we

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don't know who's dead, so we don't know who kills him.

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Speaker 5: Three we don't find any clothes.

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Speaker 3: No wallet, no identification what Tooever, how about on the underwear,

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for if you let me finish, No identification on the

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underwear or anywhere on the scene of the crime.

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Speaker 6: Oh, there's the body, look jeans see him?

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Speaker 3: Yes, pot always look at a body from like ten

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feet away, gives you perpective?

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Speaker 6: See uh huh? Icy pods.

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Speaker 3: Now take a picture from here, Jean, then one from

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the feet, then a closer.

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Speaker 6: I'll stay here and tell the lieutenant why I said.

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Identification is difficult, but not impossible.

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Speaker 4: I have bluff and.

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Speaker 3: Joe, what tells you the identification and not the identification

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with him?

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Speaker 6: It just gives me ideas.

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Speaker 3: Two men camped out in this field, one the dead man,

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the other the guy.

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Speaker 6: Who did it. Footprints of two men are quite clear.

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Speaker 3: Or okay, two men did camp out travers The pharmer

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says that we could go.

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Speaker 4: Two men ask to sleep.

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Speaker 5: Out in this field.

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Speaker 6: They had a car. Yeah, it looks like amateur crime,

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not a gangster killing. Gangster never pick a place like this.

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Two opens. Gangster never let himself be seen by Travis.

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So what so as amateur.

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Speaker 3: They bungled somewhere they bungled. That's something for somebody to find.

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Speaker 7: Joe.

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Speaker 3: I heard you thee your eyes before, and I heard

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about how you sound cases, But honest.

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Speaker 6: You never heard anything like this before.

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Speaker 4: Well exactly a gene you finished yap.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Now over there, see about one hundred yards over there,

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papers see lots of little pieces of papers, got it

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all over those scraps are junk.

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Speaker 4: You don't mean to tell me.

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Speaker 5: A dig bag, Jean.

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Speaker 6: Pick up everything you see, even if you can't make.

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Speaker 5: It out of that. Oh what do you think you're doing?

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Speaker 6: I said they were amateurs.

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Speaker 3: Amateurs always leave something or somebody who can read it.

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Speaker 6: Column, Yo, I'm a faigure slipping, getting old.

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Speaker 3: Maybe, but i'd advise you not to file that report

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on identification impossible for twenty four hours.

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Speaker 6: Don't have to listen, just my advice, Pom.

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Speaker 4: I'm tired.

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Speaker 6: I can't see anymore.

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Speaker 5: Well you go to bed jeans.

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Speaker 6: Why don't you stop shuffling these scraps of paper. Pie,

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We've been.

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Speaker 3: Out of twenty hours and we haven't got a thing.

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Speaker 6: You'd think the lieutenants right too. I'm getting old. I

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didn't say that, Pie.

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Speaker 3: I'll sit with you all.

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Speaker 6: Day tomorrow and the next day only.

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Speaker 3: Only I sounded awful, big, didn't I? Twenty four hours litennant,

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I shouted, swell at it? Oh not exactly.

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Speaker 6: Ah, Now I.

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Speaker 8: Think I got something.

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Speaker 6: Look seen a letter, part of a letter anyhow? An envelope,

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this little piece of greening? That did it?

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Speaker 4: What have you done?

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Speaker 6: The letter signed to see.

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Speaker 3: Lonely for you dd and in the same handwriting same

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ink is a envelope to Tom c o U And

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there's a letter missing.

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Speaker 8: Why c o u blank y?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: But Pie, that might not be the murdered man or

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the murderer. It might be well.

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Speaker 3: Anybody, true, might be someone who uh picnicked there a

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year ago we tore off the letter and.

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Speaker 5: Left of that, right sure, or.

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Speaker 6: Maybe a passing murderer through it out the window. And

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why am I excited? Because it might also be the

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murdered man or the murderer.

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 6: Well, you begrudge me the answer, I suppose I'll never

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begrudginating father and answer.

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Speaker 3: Come on, Jeane, we're still under the twenty four hours.

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And I really got something for Lieutenant calder.

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 3: His name is cou blank why cooory COOLi something like that,

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and he's got a wife' named Gja.

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Speaker 4: That's all, Joe.

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Speaker 6: The letter was mailed from Bridgeport.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, oh shot, end it alone.

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Speaker 4: I'll put a call through.

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Speaker 6: You don't have to, right, I already did.

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Speaker 3: I put the call through, told the operator to connect

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you here at your office soon.

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Speaker 6: As she got a missus.

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Speaker 3: Jis cou blank y in Bridgeport? Well, don't say it,

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but a hold a homicide.

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Speaker 5: Hey, thank you?

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Speaker 4: Hello, Hello, this is missus Delia cooey.

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Speaker 6: Oh, hello, Missus Cooley. The name is Cooley. Who is this,

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Missus Cooley? My name is Joe Wurgers from Little Rock, Arkansas.

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And nothing to be alarmed that.

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Speaker 8: Just your husband's name is Tom?

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Speaker 5: Is that right?

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Speaker 4: That's right?

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Speaker 6: Have you heard from him? No, man, just just a

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routine newspaper check. Have you heard from him?

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Speaker 4: No? I thought it was him calling. See it's been

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a long time, over ten days, and he always writes

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or phones me.

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Speaker 6: Have something happened?

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Speaker 3: No, Missus Cooley, it's nothing, definitely, just we may have

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some information for you. If we do, we'll get in

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touch with you. Missus Cooley. How old is your husband?

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Speaker 4: He's thirty two?

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Speaker 6: Something is the man? As I said, if anything comes up,

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we'll call you back. Don't worry.

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Speaker 4: Why didn't you tell her? Joe?

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Speaker 5: Tell her what?

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Speaker 6: Lieutenant?

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Speaker 8: I tell her to come down and identify the body? Well,

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it's her husband we found in the field.

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Speaker 5: Now you know it as well.

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Speaker 6: As I might be. But then again it might not.

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Speaker 8: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 6: Did you take a good look at that body?

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Speaker 8: I spent a day going over that body.

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Speaker 5: Did you see his teeth? I saw his teeth.

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Speaker 3: Are those the teeth of a man thirty two?

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Speaker 6: A false upper plate?

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Speaker 4: Well, it's happened before.

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Speaker 6: To look at his feet?

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Speaker 3: Bunions on his feet, sir? Are those the feet of

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a man of thirty two?

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Speaker 6: That man was fifty at least?

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Speaker 8: Well, just because a guy has a plate in his

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mouth and bunions will.

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Speaker 4: Well, maybe he's a thirty two.

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Speaker 3: Year old male carriers possible, But I say our man's

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fifty five.

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Speaker 6: He's a day all right. I've said my piece. What

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are you going to do?

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Speaker 3: File the death certificate in the name of Tom Cooey?

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Speaker 4: What are you going to do?

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Speaker 5: First?

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Speaker 6: Give you some free advice? Don't?

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Speaker 3: And second, I'm going back and finished by jigsaw puzzle.

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Speaker 6: I've been working on a gene.

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Speaker 3: There's still a few pieces of paper.

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Speaker 5: Have me worried?

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Speaker 6: You've got Lieutenant Hall to worried.

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Speaker 3: But you're worried too, Joe wurges. A few pieces of

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paper have you worried? One I have torn receipt with

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a number seventy three thousand, five hundred and sixty nine,

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and the other the name of a Post Office Hudson

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Terminal post Office, and a somewhat similar piece of paper.

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If you wonder if the two go together. If you

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have on the disarrayed table in front of you two

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pieces of a receipt for a registered letter for suppose

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you have PI, then maybe the amateur.

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Speaker 6: Murderer tore up his receipt and you'll find his name.

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Oh that's one thousand and one at least two thousand

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and one gene.

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Speaker 3: It might be the murdered man tore up to receipt,

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or it might be neither of them did it. Maybe

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it's seventy three and sixty nine to one gems. But

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I like long shots. You play the long shot a

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phone call to a friend in the post office at

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Hudson Turmo, and you find that the letter was mailed

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three months ago by a man named Ed Rumley, who

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has brother Jack in Sacramento, California. So you put through

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a call the Sacramento and mister.

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Speaker 5: Rumley, you've got a brother named Ed. That's right.

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Speaker 6: He's about fifty five edge fifty four full supper plate

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in is mouth.

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Speaker 5: That's right. Say what is this?

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Speaker 3: Bunion's honest feet bad bunions?

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Speaker 5: Yes, but what's this all about?

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Speaker 3: And mister Rumley, you'd better hop a plane and get

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out the Little Rock as soon as you can.

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Speaker 6: I'm afraid your brother has been murdered.

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Speaker 5: We'll be back in just a moment with tonight's big story.

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Speaker 2: This is Sy Harris returning it to your narrator and

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the big story of Joe Burgess as he lived it.

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Speaker 4: And wrote it.

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Speaker 3: First, Lieutenant Sam Halder announces that the identification of a

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murdered man is impossible, and you, Joe Wurgeses of the

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Arkansas as that proved that wrong. Then he announces that

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the murdered man is one term Cooie, and you blandly

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write a lead story for your paper that the murdered

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man is Ed Rumley.

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Speaker 6: The thing on the safe side, you don't run the story.

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Speaker 3: Because the identification by Rumley's brother on his way from

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California hasn't been made yet. But when Rumley's brother arrives

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and takes one look at the body, you'll know you're right.

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Speaker 6: The murdered man is Ed Rumley. So you run your

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story and you and the lieutenant get on with the case.

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Speaker 5: So your brother and Koey were partners.

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Speaker 6: Mister Rumley, that's right.

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Speaker 8: Return, and he and Kuey didn't get along. They hated

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each other.

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Speaker 6: Yes, that's true.

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Speaker 3: They well partner's in business, sold udo polished together and

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they weren't doing well.

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Speaker 4: They fought a lot. I was it a surprise to.

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Speaker 5: You your brother was killed.

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Speaker 6: I knew they had trouble, but I never thought it

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would come to this.

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Speaker 5: Do you think who he did it? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Why don't we let the man go to his hotel, Lieutenant.

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He's had a great shock his brother's death and all that. Yeah, yeah, sorry,

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mister Rumley, that's all right, thank you, thank you. Now,

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joe oh, I think we sent out a dragonet for

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a man.

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Speaker 6: Named Kooy term c o u e y All right, right,

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but here you're both wrong. It isn't two minutes later

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when I gut start and opened the door and let's in.

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Speaker 3: A tall man wearing a palm beach suit. Lieutenant holler,

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I'm Tom Cooey, you're Cooy. Yes, I have got a

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story in the paper that it had been killed.

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Speaker 6: I thought I could be a help.

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Speaker 3: Got here as soon as I could, so well where

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he been, Well, that's as you see, I didn't even

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bother to change my clothes.

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Speaker 6: I was in Florida. I took a plain and got

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here as soon as possible.

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Speaker 3: That's just good friend, Lieutenant Jeans outside, you might if

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I get.

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Speaker 5: A dog, go ahead?

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Speaker 8: You do anything like sit down the skooy anyway I

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can help, Lieutenant.

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Speaker 5: Well, just tell me you and Rumby were partners.

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Speaker 6: Yes, that's right, auto polish line. But about three months

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ago we broke up.

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Speaker 5: We weren't doing too well.

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Speaker 6: We split what we had to stock.

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Speaker 5: I took the car and he just parted friendly.

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Speaker 6: Why it was the song of the year.

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Speaker 4: You have no idea how it's distresses.

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Speaker 6: Just hold of mister cooey. Pictures go ahead, Jean, one

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from the fire, then one from the front.

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Speaker 4: Uh, what are you shooting pictures for now? Joe? Okay,

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you were friends with Rumley? Were you ever in this territory?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Yes, we have a little rock with the guy.

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Speaker 5: Recently.

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Speaker 6: No, about six years ago.

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Speaker 4: I was not recently.

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Speaker 8: No, every Knatsville.

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Speaker 6: Uh, you're ago for pleasure, but not recently.

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Speaker 4: Where did you last see Rumley?

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Speaker 6: Well, let me see now, must be four.

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Speaker 4: Months ago, and where did you see him? Lad? Richmond?

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Speaker 6: We split up in Richmond as I said, he took

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the stock polish and I took the car and.

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Speaker 4: That was the last time I saw him.

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Speaker 5: Well, thanks for coming in, mister Ken.

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Speaker 8: Can I do a work you don't have to wish

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for Joe?

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Speaker 4: You are going to go? Are you go?

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Speaker 6: Maybe Trappator? See him the farmer from one of the

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mass travers of permission to camp on the farm. Remember, yeah,

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I remember?

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, And mister Ko, I'll have to keep you

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for a few hours.

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Speaker 6: I'll make it twenty four lieutenant. Why just to be

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on the safe side fus, just a few hours.

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Speaker 5: Mister Kohe.

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Speaker 4: Just routine travers.

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Speaker 8: It was on your property, they say that night I tried. Now,

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just look at this man and tell me did you

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ever see him before?

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Speaker 4: Was he one of the men?

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Speaker 6: And man, I've never show him before?

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Speaker 4: That is my Joe.

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Speaker 3: I'd still say make it twenty four hours, lieutenant.

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Speaker 6: What given to an old man's whim? Lieutenant? Okay, okay,

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I'm awfully sorry, mister kohed just a few more.

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Speaker 7: Hours, stee, we'reges see where are you at? O?

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Speaker 4: Where s? Where's your father?

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Speaker 5: See?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Lieutenant, but he said he'd be I've been.

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Speaker 5: Waiting half the day for him.

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Speaker 4: He said he'd be here at six.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna let Koy go.

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Speaker 6: He said, please to wait twenty four hours? He said, Lieutenant,

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twenty four hours? What four?

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Speaker 3: The man's innocent? Why am I holding him suspicion to murderer?

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I've got no suspicion to murder.

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Speaker 5: What's your old man doing anyway?

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Speaker 6: I don't know, Lieutenant, but he said please to wait.

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Speaker 3: Well at seven, he's gotten to light o'clock, not a

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bit at moore. Tell him that I don't know where

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I'll find him eight o'clock.

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Speaker 4: I don't care.

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Speaker 7: He marg, Yes, Lieutenant Faulder, it's aint fifteen.

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Speaker 4: And he's not here yet. Did you hear from him?

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Speaker 6: No, Sir, I didn't.

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Speaker 4: Okay, bring Coley and sergeant, I'm releasing him. Don't see

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so he's lieutenant?

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Speaker 6: What ah did you find anything? I think it's a

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fine idea to bring Cooey in, but I don't think

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you want to release it?

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Speaker 4: What did you find?

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Speaker 6: What have you got? But tell me you want to

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developed patience to gen Patience is an askest in the

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old as weller.

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Speaker 4: Than the young. Yo. What did the yes, mister Cooey

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I did.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 6: Go ahead, Joe, mister Cooley, sit down that chair. You'll

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be more comfortable than standing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead, sit down, Go ahead, shoe. Uh.

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Speaker 6: I have a document here, mister Koe just a second

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that says, you know. It's the letter I forgot the

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mail for my wife. Ah.

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Speaker 3: Here it is, I let us in your wife and

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kooy from deed from dearly. Oh, don't be alarmed, perfectly

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harmless letter. Miss you love you write more often, But

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that's not what I'm ask It's an envelope I called

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your attention.

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Speaker 6: But what about it?

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Speaker 3: The postmark chloral postmark. This was sent to you a noster,

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then forward to you in Little Rock. Note it bears

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three postmarks, Bridgeport where she mailed it, from Knoxville, and

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Little Joe, suggesting that mister Cooey was at one time

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in Knoxville and later in Little Rock, two facts which

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if I remember.

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Speaker 6: Correctly, he did not.

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Speaker 4: Why are you uh well?

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Speaker 6: I uh oh, yes, yes, I I guess I was.

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Speaker 3: Now were that much cleared? We asked this question, mister Cooey,

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were you ever in Rose City?

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Speaker 6: Rose City, to refresh your memory, was.

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Speaker 3: The place where Ed Rumley met his death On the

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farm of a man named Travers in Rose City.

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Speaker 6: Ever there, Oh, never good.

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Speaker 3: You also told us you never sold or will be

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a polish in Knoxville or Little Rock or Rose City

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in the company of Ed Rumley. Yes, that's true. I

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was in Knoxville and Little Rock, but not with Rumley.

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We broke up in Rechimond four months ago.

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Speaker 6: I told you, Oh, yes, so you did. But if

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it should be establish.

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Speaker 3: That you did sell the polish in all those cities

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with Rumley within the past month, you might look like

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a lion.

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Speaker 6: I said, I never did, and that's all I've got

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to say. And here in my pocket, I have no

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that's my colorphone bill. Here I have seven.

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Speaker 3: Depositions from auto store owners in Little Rock and Rose

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City swearing that you and Ed Rumley together sold them

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polish within the past month.

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Speaker 4: Well, how could they swear that when I never do?

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Speaker 6: You recall my son to your picture?

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Speaker 3: Well, armed with that picture and the photo of mister

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Rumley before you murdered it.

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Speaker 6: I never did anything. These photos, I say. I went

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to the auto stores and asked if they saw you,

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and these depositions say they did. Seven. Lieutenant called seven fairly.

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Speaker 4: Conclusively all right, cool, let's have the truth.

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Speaker 3: It's about time. Okay, Okay, we sold the polish together,

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but that's all. I left town two weeks ago and never.

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Speaker 6: Saw Rumley again.

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Speaker 3: Another lie one of the depositions, as you sold pollup

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together the day of the murder one week ago.

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Speaker 6: You hated him and he hated you. Bromiley's brother says that,

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and soold of your wife. As a matter of fact,

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you gentlemen, both threatened to kill each other.

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Speaker 4: Now could he start talking?

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Speaker 6: Okay, we're in the field together. If we can't Dot

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and Travis Field, we were broke, that's why we can't die.

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Rummley threatened me. We're about to go to sleep that night.

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When he threatened me, I had to do it. He

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would have killed me. He had a club maybe you

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say it was the carjack. I don't know, and he

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tried to kill me.

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Speaker 8: I took it away from him with self defense.

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Speaker 6: I didn't even think of what.

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Speaker 4: I was doing.

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Speaker 6: Oh, how the man lies.

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Speaker 3: Gene, note how criminals lie. First, it was premeditated. You

473
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removed not only his clothes but also the labeled from

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the underwear. You were careful to leave his body face.

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Speaker 6: Down the water hoping you would leave him unrecognized. And

476
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you know how I know that. Oh, it was not

477
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a hot night. The weather bureau, with whom I have

478
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just checked, tells me the night the question was a

479
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very cold. Man.

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Speaker 3: You slept with your clothes on, and when the deed

481
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was done, you removed his clothes. You dragged the body

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two hundred jobs to the gully and left it there.

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Speaker 6: Do you want me to prove each of these points

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or would you sign the full confession I prepared for you?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think mister COOOI needs a fountain to lieutenant,

486
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but you know he lost his in Travis Field. I

487
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found it if you wanted to to kooy, but I

488
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don't think you have much use for it where you're going,

489
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do you, Lieutenant.

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Speaker 4: Well, Jeane, we better get along.

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Speaker 6: It's my after nine o'clock. I had better get to bed.

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You know I can't take these late hours anymore. I'm

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not as young as I used to do.

494
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Speaker 2: In just a moment, we'll read you a telegram from

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Joseph Worges of the Little Rock, Arkansas Gazettes with the

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final outcome of tonight's big story. Now we read you

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that telegram from Joseph Worgs of the Little Rock Arkansas Gazette.

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Speaker 3: Realizing his story of self defense wouldn't stand up in court,

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gillern Tonight's Big Story, pleaded guilty to the murder and

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thereby escaped the electric chair.

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Speaker 6: Sentenced to life imprisonment in the penitentiary.

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Speaker 3: He escaped after serving four years, but was recaptured two

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years later. My sincere appreciation for tonight's Pellmell Award.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, mister Wogs.

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Speaker 2: The makers of Pellmell Famous Cigarettes are proud to have

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named you the winner of the pell Mell five hundred

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dollars Award for notable service in the field of journalism.

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Listen again next week, same time, same station, and pell

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Mell Famous Cigarettes will present another big story, A big

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story from the front page which is of the Joliet,

511
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Illinois Harold News byline William M. Hart, a big story

512
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about a reporter who tried to stop an explosion of

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dynamite human dynamite. The Big Story is produced by Bernard J.

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Poctor with music by Vonna Mitzelenski. The night's program was

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written by Arnold Pearl. Your narrator was Bob Sloan and

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Martin Wilson played the part of mister Wigs.

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Speaker 5: In order to protect the names.

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Speaker 2: Of people actually involved in Tonight's authentic Big Story, the

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names of all characters in the dramatization were.

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Speaker 5: Changed, with the exception of the reporter mister Wigs.

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Speaker 2: This is Ernest Chapple speaking for the makers of Palmel

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Famous Cigarette.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. Well, first of all, let's go ahead and

524
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provide the rest of the cast. In addition to mister

525
00:27:09,799 --> 00:27:17,079
Wolfson of the cast Joyce Gordon as Delia, and then

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we had Larry Haynes, Art Corney, Michael O'Day and Joe DeSantis.

527
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This episode was a strong one. I think that the

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characterization is very different from your typical Big Story episode,

529
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which is usually about this sort of unassuming a reporter

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who does his job and has this one case that

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is his big moment. The way that he's written and

532
00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:53,359
played feels like if you tuned in not knowing that

533
00:27:53,559 --> 00:27:56,240
this was supposed to be based on a true story,

534
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you would not suspect it. But the fact of the

535
00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:04,799
matter is that the real life Joe Warges was a

536
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,599
larger than life character. He did not have the national

537
00:28:09,759 --> 00:28:17,559
profile of Dorothy Kilgallon or a Bulter Winshoal because, to

538
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,039
be honest, he was based in Arkansas and not New

539
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,359
York City. But Joe Gazette, as he was known, went

540
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to work as a newspaper reporter when he was glad

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of nineteen and stayed with it for forty nine years

542
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out of fifty. Took like a one year sabbatical in

543
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the middle of that, but he had a massive legacy.

544
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,920
Quoting from the Encyclopedia of Arkansas, he was a natural

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00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,559
detective and helped the police break down suspects and solve crimes.

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During the heyday of the national pulp detective magazines the

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thirties through the fifties, Warges was a free contributor to

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and subject of journals like True Detective that publicized crime mysteries.

549
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So probably at least some of the fictional detective heroes

550
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:22,240
may have been indirectly inspired by Joe Worges because a

551
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lot of people who grew up to be crime writers

552
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they read these sort of magazines. Police literally relied on him.

553
00:29:31,279 --> 00:29:35,920
They knew where he could be reached even when the

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00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,960
newspaper couldn't, and they would notify him if something broke,

555
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,799
which you know, the idea that he was taken aback

556
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,039
that he wasn't notified in this episode. Yeah, that is true.

557
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,960
You if you were in Arkansas Little Rock area and

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00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,799
someone was breaking in the crime area, you would call

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00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:02,599
Joe Wergis. You would make sure that he knew what

560
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was going on. I mean, according to this even they

561
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even scheduled execution so that he could be there. And

562
00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:17,279
according to the Encyclopedia We'regis was actually featured in multiple

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episodes of The Big Story, though this appears to be

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the only one in circulation. And I love the way

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Wilson portrayed him. I was amused during the part when

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he was confronting the suspect and was doing this thing.

567
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Oh wait, no, no, no, that's my grocery list, and

568
00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:44,279
I thought, oh my goodness, he's doing Colombo before Peter Falk. Now,

569
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I think most of the facts of this case, the

570
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,400
story behind The Big Story. Doctor Joe Webb tracked down

571
00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:59,279
the real incident, and the victim was George Riolo and

572
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the killer was Walter Beal, and both were actually from

573
00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:10,640
Westchester County, but Riolo was originally from California. Now, the

574
00:31:10,759 --> 00:31:13,920
big difference with the case is that it did not

575
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happen in nineteen forty nine, when Worges would be about

576
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,160
fifty two, give or take, actually happened back in nineteen

577
00:31:24,359 --> 00:31:28,960
thirty one when Warges was thirty five, So a lot

578
00:31:29,079 --> 00:31:34,200
of references to him being old or be a bit

579
00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:38,519
over the hill. Nobody would have had that assumption in

580
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:42,559
nineteen thirty one. It's probably one of those conceits of

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00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,079
the program that it is acted like each case is

582
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:51,680
somewhat recent to make the accomplishment seem fresh. Warges would

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actually keep on writing and being a living legend until

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he retired in nineteen sixty six. Two of his sons

585
00:32:03,119 --> 00:32:07,400
I had four sons would go on to work in journalism,

586
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with his son Gene becoming a publisher and editor of

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a paper and being a crusader against corruption in state politics.

588
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So probably one of the more fascinating subjects for one

589
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:28,839
of these big story episodes we've encountered so far. Listener

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comments and feedback now, and we have a few comments

591
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regarding the episode A Blond Date with Murder. We start

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with Peter on Spotify. I guess it wasn't such a

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harmless little fib after all, society can still learn a

594
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lesson from this story. I think that there are lessons

595
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to be learned from real life that should teach us

596
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to be more circumspect about how we talk and warn

597
00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:01,160
us against that. But we he seemed not to want

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to learn those lessons. Dawn comments, whoever told the actress

599
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she could play a young girl live out the music

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was spectacularly inappropriate for the story, the focus on the

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00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,519
consequence of gossip and not the fact that a policeman

602
00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:22,440
went on a killing spree. By modern sensibilities, it misses

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the mark completely. A good story told well usually stands

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the test of time. This one had an expiration date

605
00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:34,680
well mark. I definitely think there's something to the perspective.

606
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I think on some of the points the music, it

607
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:43,599
feels like with the big story that you kind of

608
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:48,559
get the same sort of music and score every episode.

609
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There are other series that meant mix it up to

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00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,680
capture the tone. As to the sensibilities, think you raise

611
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,839
a fair point, although it all wasn't written for our

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00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,599
sensibilities in the twenty first century, and there are many

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00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,440
good or even great stories that cut against our sensibilities,

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00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,719
and certainly the way that some stories are told in

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00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,480
the twenty first century may offend the sensibilities of future generations.

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I think that whenever you're creating something, you are kind

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of limited by the standards of the time and what

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your audience will accept and what, in this case, what

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the network is going to broadcast. Probably having this storyline

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where the focus is on the danger of gossip and

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being malicious made it more palatable to the networks, and

622
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,320
so that the story could actually be made and the

623
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reporter could get their Palmell award, and five hundred dollars

624
00:34:56,559 --> 00:34:59,280
was certainly a big sum of money at the time.

625
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:04,760
Will see that with films that are made today and

626
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,400
stories that are produced in a dramatic way, they are

627
00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:12,880
not told true to life. They are told in ways

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00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:18,320
that fit into our cultural narratives and the narratives of

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the people who are making the productions. I've yet to

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see one where people are like, yeah, that is totally

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00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:31,639
accurate to how everything happened. There are you know, not

632
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,159
to say that no truth is reflected, but it is

633
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,920
colored with the perspective of its time. But I think

634
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:45,039
you do have a point. Over on Facebook, Joey writes,

635
00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:47,360
I can't help but think how the child and the

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00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,320
story would feel if she realized what her feb fed

637
00:35:51,559 --> 00:35:54,239
led to. However, even if her feed was true the

638
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:59,159
friendly neighborhood, Copp's reaction was still way over the top.

639
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And I think, and that's a fair point, Joey, because

640
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:08,119
there are ways that our lies can harm others. But

641
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,519
the way people choose to respond to a lie or

642
00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:16,719
respond to a situation is on them. And the same

643
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,519
thing with the real life policeman who went on a

644
00:36:19,639 --> 00:36:24,719
killing spree after some allegations. If the allegations were false,

645
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,480
there are all sorts of ways he could have chosen

646
00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:30,519
to respond to it. He chose a killing spree, and

647
00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:34,960
that is ultimately on him. And then we go over

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to YouTube comment regarding the episode The Lottery from Mildred,

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00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,360
I like these episodes of The Big Story. Well, thanks

650
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,360
so much, Mildred. I'm glad you're enjoying this series. Well,

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now it's time to thank our Patreon supporter of the day,

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or more per month. Thank you so much for your

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support and that will do it for today. If you're

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enjoying the podcast, please follow us using your favorite podcast

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wherever you download this from. We will be back next

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Tuesday with another episode of the Big Story, but join

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us back here tomorrow for Broadways My Beat, where she.

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Speaker 9: Said the man who's been annoying her with the here

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at ringside?

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Speaker 4: To see him anywhere?

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Speaker 5: Big?

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Speaker 6: How would I know?

667
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Speaker 9: If I so a man running away from something in

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the street, that's an annoyer. I get to urge myself sometimes.

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You know any of these men around us? Yeah, that's

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one there with the two blinds and a male anutenant.

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Speaker 6: That's Chili Crane.

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Speaker 9: His last wife made a settlement on him, a native

673
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,000
village at Malak there someplace he needs probably lay good. Hey,

674
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,239
that one it looks like scientists. Huh, the scientist with

675
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,880
things a dollar around here. I go over to him

676
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,440
and discuss what's new and nuclear fission and there's only

677
00:37:56,519 --> 00:38:00,559
something new. Probably interested him in terms of how soon

678
00:38:00,639 --> 00:38:04,840
she's gonna explode? Do you think him a cult of science?

679
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The one along hence the wall.

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Speaker 5: Uh, Yeah, that is surprised.

681
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Speaker 9: You do not be taken in by the rough and

682
00:38:14,519 --> 00:38:17,440
tumble degree Bob, And that's probably I heard a scream before.

683
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,840
Where is it sounds like I'm addressing room Danny. I

684
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think maybe take me to evict Yeah, sure, sure, come

685
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:27,119
on in here Danny.

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Speaker 6: To meet.

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Speaker 9: Probably take it easy, It's gonna be all right me.

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Wherety go, Miss Margin, Where doty go?

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Speaker 4: Miss Martin.

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Speaker 1: Hope you'll be with us then in the meantime. Sends

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