Speaker 1: Heay back with you here on EXUS and Bros. Glad
Speaker 1: you're with us on this Monday time for Mondays with
Speaker 1: Mitch Mitch Lion's our friend Mitch Lion's Wealth dot Com
Speaker 1: joining us here like he does every Monday and sometimes
Speaker 1: when it's big football news as well. And he had
Speaker 1: a busy weekend. How are you, Mitch? Good to talk
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 2: I'm doing great. I'm doing great.
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing fine well. I was playing golf yesterday in
Speaker 1: the rain. You were doing what this past weekend?
Speaker 3: I was turkey hunting, which was great.
Speaker 2: We had some great weather up in Sears, Michigan at
Speaker 2: our hunting property and didn't see any gobblers. Unfortunately they're
Speaker 2: all on camera, you know, all April. But I couldn't
Speaker 2: get up there in April, so we gave it a
Speaker 2: gave it a shot. This week saw some hens, but
Speaker 2: going guinny gobblers coming in.
Speaker 1: That interests me because I've been deer hunting, I've never
Speaker 1: been turkey hunting. What's the thrill of turkey hunting compared
Speaker 1: to deer hunting, elk hunting, big game hunting, anything like that.
Speaker 3: I think it's part.
Speaker 2: The fun part is when you when you get a
Speaker 2: gobbler and you're able to call him in. You know,
Speaker 2: it's no different than I guess if you're grunting and
Speaker 2: had a buck answering and coming in on that. So
Speaker 2: he gets the heart pumping. But as you more than that,
Speaker 2: it's just time out in the woods. You know, it's
Speaker 2: not with my son's great time, great time in the
Speaker 2: woods with him, and it's just relaxing to get out
Speaker 2: in the morning and watch nature come alive.
Speaker 3: I love it. How how long have you been hunting?
Speaker 2: You know? I grew up hunting with my dad, deer
Speaker 2: hunting primarily. I haven't I haven't hunted turkey a ton,
Speaker 2: but we've got some honting propery. So we started doing
Speaker 2: that a couple of years ago, and it's it's good time.
Speaker 3: What's the biggest catch you've ever had? The biggest catch
Speaker 3: or biggest thing I had?
Speaker 2: I just had a really nice nine point buck off
Speaker 2: some corn property in my wife's family. She's I probably
Speaker 2: about fifteen years ago, but I was that one got
Speaker 2: the heart race and it was bigger than any deer
Speaker 2: I've ever seen in my life, and just a big
Speaker 2: old corn fed monster. And so that was a lot
Speaker 2: of fun.
Speaker 3: Love that. What else do you hunt? I mean, have
Speaker 3: you ever done the big game hunting?
Speaker 2: No, you know, I've not.
Speaker 3: I don't know. That just doesn't do it for me.
Speaker 2: The whole pay, you know, thousands of dollars. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm exotic analysts. This ever never been my deal.
Speaker 3: Are you a fisherman too?
Speaker 2: I do like to fish a little bit. We have
Speaker 2: a place up in Cadillac on Lake Cadillacs, so we'll
Speaker 2: get out and fish for some bass and pike and bluegill.
Speaker 2: I got a couple grandsons now, so we're gonna have
Speaker 2: to get them and gratiated into it this summer, so
Speaker 2: that'll be fun.
Speaker 1: I love that, man, I do. I think it's a
Speaker 1: way to spend time with people who mean something in
Speaker 1: your life, and you get a chance to really bond
Speaker 1: I think in hunting trips and fishing trips and things.
Speaker 3: Of that nature.
Speaker 1: Mitch Lions, Mitch Lions Health wealth dot Com joining us
Speaker 1: here on ex'es and bros. Don't forget the Mitch Lions
Speaker 1: well poll question. He's got the book Retirement of Steel,
Speaker 1: he's got the documentary Retirement Deception, and my favorite, the
Speaker 1: retirement red zone that really helps protect and create more
Speaker 1: income as you get older. Michigan State in need of
Speaker 1: a new athletic director. Alan Haller's out after three and
Speaker 1: a half year is he did some really good things.
Speaker 1: Adam Nightingale was a higher of his, Jonathan Smith was
Speaker 1: a higher of his. What are the what do you
Speaker 1: think Michigan State is looking for in their new athletic director.
Speaker 2: Well, the game has changed. Allen's a great guy. I
Speaker 2: came into Michigan State with Allen back in nineteen eighty
Speaker 2: eight as a freshman on the football team, so I
Speaker 2: have a lot of love and respect for Allen. But
Speaker 2: the game has changed completely. It's a professional league now,
Speaker 2: and you've got to have somebody out there that can
Speaker 2: rally the spartan faithful to give a lot of cash
Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, it's all about nil.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: These kids are not loyal to a school. The game
Speaker 2: has changed. It's just it's not like when I grew
Speaker 2: up and when you put in your four or five
Speaker 2: years or put in three years of time to even
Speaker 2: step on a field, because these kids are long gone
Speaker 2: by then they're going to chase, you know, chase the dollar.
Speaker 2: Or the opportunity elsewhere, and it's just it's just different.
Speaker 2: So it's going to be haves and have nots really
Speaker 2: quick if it's not already. And Michigan State's in danger
Speaker 2: of becoming the have not if they don't get, you know,
Speaker 2: raise the cash. And I hate it personally. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't like where the college football game has gone.
Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 1: Last week Wednesday night, I was at the Detroit Athletic Club.
Speaker 3: Actually thought I was going to see you there.
Speaker 1: Tom Izzo was there, Greg Campy was there, the president
Speaker 1: of the NCAA was there, George Gervin was there. We
Speaker 1: were talking about nil Is so brought up some incredible points,
Speaker 1: some really good points. But I was talking with some
Speaker 1: of the big donors afterwards, and I just asked him,
Speaker 1: how many times can you dip in to that financial well,
Speaker 1: asking for these guys over and over and over again
Speaker 1: for money to spend on players. What's the end game
Speaker 1: in this situation? Do you think where you're constantly asking
Speaker 1: for big donors for money.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, how high can it go? Well,
Speaker 2: there's no salary cap in college sports right right, at
Speaker 2: least in pros. You've got you know, two three four
Speaker 2: year contracts that the players have to adhere to. You
Speaker 2: don't have a I mean, you know these kids can
Speaker 2: take money in January and leave before September and shoot,
Speaker 2: then you have to pay the money back.
Speaker 3: I mean it's crazy.
Speaker 2: And you know how much do they ask for it? Well,
Speaker 2: they're gonna want more than a kid down the road
Speaker 2: that's making you know, ten thousand dollars more than they
Speaker 2: are this year. So I don't know where it stops, Matt,
Speaker 2: and it's uh, you know again, I don't like it
Speaker 2: at one bed. It's killed. Honestly, it's killed. It for
Speaker 2: me as a fan, I don't know who's on the
Speaker 2: team from year to year. And I'm all about capitalism,
Speaker 2: but this to me is killing. Is killing the sport
Speaker 2: or four fans.
Speaker 1: When you talk with friends and you're at your tailgates
Speaker 1: in each lanting before games, are they giving you similar
Speaker 1: feedback than what you're feeling right now? Does that help justify?
Speaker 1: Because it's the way I feel too, because we are torn,
Speaker 1: You and I are torn on this situation because we
Speaker 1: both believe these kids deserve to be compensated. But as
Speaker 1: I've said for the last far, or five years. This
Speaker 1: is pay to play. It's not an il Andzo said
Speaker 1: the same thing on Wednesday night. What's the feedback you're
Speaker 1: getting from a lot of college football college basketball fans
Speaker 1: that you hang out with.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's much the same as it's how
Speaker 2: I feel, right. I mean, we all follow Michigan State
Speaker 2: because we love Michigan State. I don't get the impression
Speaker 2: that you know, all these kids are in love with
Speaker 2: Michigan State as much as maybe we are, right. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's it's hey, where can I go and get paid?
Speaker 2: And I get it. Man if I was eighteen years old,
Speaker 2: nineteen twenty years old, listen, I didn't come from money,
Speaker 2: so I would have been excited doing backflips for somebody
Speaker 2: to hand me one hundred bucks, much less, you know,
Speaker 2: a million dollars. So I get it from that standpoint.
Speaker 2: But again, as a fan, I really don't like it,
Speaker 2: and you know it's killing it.
Speaker 1: You did you see the clip of Shaduur Sanders with
Speaker 1: a call of Tom Brady, Deon Sanders, Tom.
Speaker 3: Brady, Shadever Sanders.
Speaker 1: I did not, Okay, So Dean Sanders is asking Tom
Speaker 1: Brady if his son should be worried about a Rolls
Speaker 1: Royce because he's got a Rolls Rice and Tom Brady
Speaker 1: says his ass should be in the film room. He
Speaker 1: should be more worried about film than cars, and that's
Speaker 1: I think that puts it, Yeah, exactly, but that kind
Speaker 1: of puts it in a pretty good perspective, coming from
Speaker 1: one of the grace of all time. All Right, before
Speaker 1: I let you go, Mitch Lyonswealth dot Com joining us
Speaker 1: here on Mondays with Mitch the Pistons run.
Speaker 3: And the difference of clutch players.
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson hits that big clutch shot to finish off
Speaker 1: the Pistons and people view him as one of the
Speaker 1: biggest clutch players of all time. I think that's a
Speaker 1: little premature. What does it take to be the clutch player?
Speaker 1: And what is your overall thought on how the Pistons
Speaker 1: did this year, surprising so many from fourteen wins a
Speaker 1: year ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, clutch player man is just mentally tough, unbridled confidence
Speaker 2: in yourself right and knowing you're not always going to
Speaker 2: make that shot, but it doesn't affect you, right like
Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson. You know, whatever he turns the ball over,
Speaker 2: he makes a miss is a shot. He's coming right
Speaker 2: back at you right the next time. It's kind of
Speaker 2: like MJ or Kobe, Right. I mean, just absolute confidence.
Speaker 2: And it's not because they're just cocky. It's because they've
Speaker 2: earned that confidence training at the highest level. Right. You
Speaker 2: don't you don't rise to the occasion, you sink to
Speaker 2: your level of training. And these guys that are stepping
Speaker 2: up like that, that's because they practice at game speed.
Speaker 2: They they train at game speed, and they have ultimate
Speaker 2: confidence because of it. Now, as far as the pistons, uh,
Speaker 2: I'll go ahead.
Speaker 3: No, go ahead, Yeah, a lot of pistons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pistons. I mean, I think there's a lot to
Speaker 2: be excited about. It was a great series. I mean,
Speaker 2: they've got a lot of young players that have never
Speaker 2: been in that situation. Uh, they've got some players that
Speaker 2: had been. But you know, I think that that was
Speaker 2: a fantastic six game series. They're gonna they're gonna learn
Speaker 2: a lot from that. I don't think they were going
Speaker 2: to get past the Celtics ultimately anyway. But I think
Speaker 2: as far as you know, Caid uh, taking the next
Speaker 2: step next year, you know, maybe playing a little better
Speaker 2: down the stretch, he's been there. Hopefully he'll gain from
Speaker 2: that experience, and uh, you know, they'll get some guys,
Speaker 2: some guys back from injury that they didn't have on
Speaker 2: the playoff roster, and I'm sure they're gonna, you know,
Speaker 2: try to improve.
Speaker 3: Through free agency.
Speaker 2: But I think the future is really bright and I'm
Speaker 2: excited for the Pistons.
Speaker 1: Love the perspective, Love the website Mitch Lionswealth dot com,
Speaker 1: the book, the documentary, and the advice. Always great to
Speaker 1: visit with you. We'll talk soon. Thanks a lot, Mitch
Speaker 1: appreciate it. As always, on Mondays with Mitch