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back to the Peginiana Show. Tim Kelly is back. You
know it's funny. Tim. Somebody just the other day reach
out and goes, you know, you have to have Tim
Kelly back on the show. I'm thinking to myself, it's
so weird that how often that happens, that I haven't
had someone on in a while, and someone will reach
out and I'll like, schedule, so I'm going to be on,
and then someone will be like, well, when are you
gonna have Tim Kelly on next? It's just so funny.
Speaker 2: That was my brother.
Speaker 1: Family, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Actually none of my family actually listened to any of
my shoes or anything. So I think one brother might.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you make it sound you make it sound like
they're pretty much lives.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, what.
Speaker 1: Are they likely? Same thing?
Speaker 2: So I try to explain it. They get a.
Speaker 1: Friendly it's just a different flavors vanilla. You got vanilla
and chocolate, and they both taste the same.
Speaker 2: We're the other day. I was just texting because I
have a brother who lives up in New York. Brother's
near me. I see often, but he's my brother near me.
Is your typical Trump Republican, conservative republican, you know, more
like that, And so he doesn't realize how he's changed
the past twenty years It's kind of funny. He's a
big Trump ruder. I said, you realize Trump got elected
criticizing that the people you thought were great, like Cheney
and Bush. Do you remember that how you were big
You're cheerleading the Iraq war and Bush. Does that create
any cognitive dissonance in you or no? It's just kind
of like it just they forget you know. Trump campaigned,
you know, he was a foreign party candidate, and he
sort of absorbed some of the wrong Paul stuff, particularly
in terms of foreign policy. Do you I mean, so
you so we were talking about Israel and going back,
you know, and what they're doing the Palestinians. He just
he just thinks it's great that the Israel is being
backed by nine states and they're bombing the hell out
of the Palestinians and killing terrorists, Tamas terrorists, and so
I was like, well, you just they're terrorists, the terrorist
I go, yeah. And then people, you know, we're talking
about the people getting arrested, you know, the foreign students here,
they're being uh you know, uh deported for simply organizing
protests or writing commentaries and school newspapers. And that's why
they're they're Hamas supporters, So I said, writing an article
or organizing a protest against Israel's manifest crimes, it's not
terrorism supporting Hamas. No, No, okay, So let me get this straight.
I asked him a pointed question. The text messaggo so, okay,
So protesting or calling out Israel for peppering Lebanon with
exploding pagers, it's terrorism. But actually Israel actually actually peppering
Lebanon with exploding pages isn't terrorism? And he goes correct,
I go, I said, well, then you're just you're just
not rational. I can't I can't even argue.
Speaker 1: Well, irrational, how do you talk to someone like that?
Speaker 2: You know, he's family, So I have to.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, yeah, you know what I'm saying. I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, now, you're not being It's it's obvious, self evident.
You're not being rational on this, just like when you're
not even feeling with the curse your history of the region.
I understand you taking a side, but not admitting that
there's another side to it. It's just simply irrational. It's ahistorical,
and it's igritt and stupid. And said, but when you
default or when you defend Jews or Israel, you nevily
come off looking like an idiot and also like a barbarian.
And that's the price you pay for this philo Semitism
you seem to think is somehow, Uh, it's part of it,
almost like part of their identically patriotic conservative you know,
they get to cheer brown people being bombed, like you know,
it's about Trump. I said, yeah, I voted in November.
What I voted for was I couldn't wait till the
US bomb Yemen. That was on my mind in November
when I voted. And you know, so yeah, well, now, yeah,
I voted for like picking a fight, picking a war
with Iran, for it for Israel's sake. You know. Uh,
but that's where we're at.
Speaker 1: It's politics, sure, And you know, one of the things
that I think about is I know for a fact
that on college campuses, well, first of all, all of
these college protesters are Hama supporters, right, They're they're terrorists,
even the Jewish ones, even the Jewish ones. Yeah yeah,
because I mean I've heard of campuses we're up to
half of the protesters were Jewish.
Speaker 2: So you know, an they they just can't help it.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, And I mean they're left.
Speaker 2: We got to take over a protest, We got to
take it over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean you got to you gotta do
the kosher sandwich. You got to be on both sides.
You got to be on both sides of it. But yeah, Also,
there are college professors and students who are openly anti American,
openly anti white people. How many of them? How many
of them are getting deported?
Speaker 2: Get deported?
Speaker 1: Are they getting deported?
Speaker 2: Do Black Lives Matter protesters get expelled and their degrees pulled,
their phony degrees pulled? No, you know, it's not until
they run a foul of the lobby that this happens.
We're given permission to criticize these people. And you know,
you know, I just don't see how you know, the
White House or the United States being used as a
proxy for Jewish tyranny is a win. But that's how
it's portrayedya.
Speaker 1: Do you think that there's how much clearer can it
get that this government is completely controlled by Jews and
the State of Israel? Would it what would they have
to do? Would they have to, like at the White
House and at the Capitol take down the American flags
and just just roll up the Israeli flags.
Speaker 2: Would that Hasn't that happened already?
Speaker 1: I mean, what happens if that happens, What does your brother?
What does your brother do if that happens?
Speaker 2: Probably just the cope and make an excuse for it,
because at this point I'm dealing there is it's almost,
I guess the grounds crumbling beneath them. They're digging in
their heels deeper. It's like they don't want to mis
Although again, if you go back twenty twenty five years,
say around two thousand and four the election, I was
calling out the Iraq war and this is you know,
Trump ran against that. He blamed the bushes, He called
out you know, Jeb Bush and the neocons for these wars.
Is rhetoric and okay, again, it's a it's cognitive dissonance,
it's double think, if you will, and it's they'll make
any excuse for it. I mean you read about that.
You know this Mahokah Heal. He was arrested by the
way then deported legal residency permanent residence green card a
pregnant wife. But I think it's an American citizen regardless,
It's like, no, they have freedom of speech rights. Now,
if you want to have a law that says if
you're going to come in United States, you can't engage
in any protests or disruption, apply it to everybody. I
understand you're here. So technically the State Department, the white hose,
could kick these people out. There's a lot of other
people that get kicked out, a lot of other dual
citizens that are a problem. But that's not happening. Is
as you you know said, it's not happening. But it
turns out I think you talked about this last week
on your show. The dean of the International Students Association
or program there at Columbia is a former is rarely
intelligence officer, and there's no just things a former intelligence officer,
So you have an intelligence.
Speaker 1: From what I understand, half from what I understand, half
of the half of the faculty at Columbia University is Jewish.
Speaker 2: So that means they're all probably mostly Zionists, meaning they're
loyal to the state of visual. This is a problem
where dilemmas created by Zionism itself. They had a testimony
capital ab donut know how old. It is a couple
of years old, but they were talking about the IHRA's
definition of anti Semitism, and among the many definitions or
characteristics or evidence of anti Semitism is promoting the idea
that Jews are more loyal to Israel than all to
their host countries. And this guy who's a Jew said,
the problem that is that is an essential part of Zionism.
It's a tenet of zion That's what it is. But
we can't call out that. They were actually speaking against
Congress and great because Congress is trying to pass as
Anti Semitism Act, you know, a bill which uses the IHR,
the International Holocaust Members Alliance's definition which if you read it,
you're like, oh, one of the definitions is suggesting that
Jews exaggerate they're victimhood or the Holocaust. Well, that's been proven,
that's been exaggerated and destroyed. That's not even dispute.
Speaker 1: They've walked into their number on Wikipedia. There there are
articles on Wikipedia. There are been articles in the New
York Times. There have been articles in the Israeli newspapers
talking about fake victims, talking about stories that just didn't
pan out. So I guess those people are anti If
you call them out, you're anti Semitic I don't get
it what happens.
Speaker 2: So, you know, and the mere fact that that again,
if anti Semitism is a problem in the Unity, it's
and it's never been a serious problem in the United States.
If anything, there's been. The philo sematism, the that's inherent
in the liberal system is a problem given the nature
of Jews, or how they how they view the world,
their worldview, they how they identify, you know, as a
group that's athwart to the rest of humanity. They're better
and they get this is another substentral tenet of Judaism.
So Jewish Jewish supremacy really is a problem, not white supremacy.
And the fact that where everyone's talking or all the
usual suspects are talking about white supremacy and not talking
about Jewish privilege or Jewish and ordinate power or Jewish
supremacy means that obviously white supremacy isn't a thing, because
if it were, we wouldn't be talking about it. Someone
always says, yeah, white supremacy is a threat. This is
really it's for something. It's a threat. I've never seen
a threat in anybody.
Speaker 1: Well, one of the I guess one of the things
that you know, you really can point to is the
fact that you know, white supremacy to Jewish organizations. Let's
let's just say, you know, to the a d L,
to the Southern Property Law Center. You know, this is
a problem with whites. And if you have a very
very small group, say I don't know one hundred people,
a thousand people who have organized and they talk about,
you know, the supremacy of the white race. Say they
say they're pro Western, well that's that's a huge issue.
But and they basically what happens is they use it
to lump pretty much every white person in when you
have a country that is basically just dropping bombs wherever
they want to. And when you ask, well, you know
you just killed like one hundred and fifty women and
children one day, Well, they were human shields, you see,
we had to kill the terrorists behind them. And then
when you prove, when you prove, well, there were no
there were no terrorists killed. These were all women and children.
So either the women and children automatically become terrorists or
it's like, well, oopsie, how do you? And then so
if one forms an opinion about a certain group, and
it doesn't have to be about Jews in general. Let's
just say people who can call themselves Zionists. How so
you're not allowed to form an opinion about a group
that calls themselves something acts as a group is literally
a country and a government and a polity, but a
bunch of guys who may get together at a I
don't know a bar. That's their terrorists, their potential terrorists,
and they have to their lives have to be destroyed.
I don't think we live. I think we're done, tim,
I don't think we're I don't think this is a
country anymore, don't. I don't think that this can be saved.
If that's the way, If that's the way everything's going
to be carried out. And I understand history. I understand
that usually when this group of people, whatever country they
get into, usually comes to a head, and usually they
end up being punished in some way or being kicked
out of the country. But they didn't have they didn't
have insane amounts of power like the power of technology,
the power of controlling governments, the power of controlling the press,
controlling people's minds, controlling the textbooks, controlling what they see
on TV. So how do you how do you not think, okay,
this is this is done there, the United States has
ceased to exist, and where do we go from here?
Speaker 2: Well, inevitably, their influence leads to national decomposition because that's
their that's their ethnic strategy, and they talk about it.
That's why they're rapidly in favor of like mass illegal immigration,
particularly immigration from you know, the Third World, overwhelming or
flood in the country with non whites because they see whites.
What I mean by whites is, of course, obviously there
is no strictly speaking of white people in that in
terms of a coherent ethnic group with interest. Doesn't they
they don't exist. They You're just the United States, the
American citizens. They're come from you know, large occidental Western
European countries. Then eventually what Central Europe, Southern Europe, uh,
you know, Eastern Europe, and they came and they formed
their sort of ethnogenesis occurred, and you had a country
that was largely based on Western ideals, principles influenced by Christianity,
also by Enlightenment ideas and Freemasonry, so or you hah,
that conflict, that's what America is. So America became the
sort of this Masonic mixing bowl. They were still guided
by Western principles for better or for worse, even the
bad ideas that were Western, and so it created a
liberal system, and a liberal system. If anything, America is
has been former anti Catholic than anti Jewish. In fact,
there was never an explicitly anti Jewish party. There was
anti Masonic party, and there was there was the No
Nothings of course, that were started by a Jew by
the way, which I'm still if you had to see
of apology from the ADL, I sent them an email.
I haven't gotten the apology yet for that. But for
all their concerns about popery and these things and Roman Romanism,
well well yeah, it's obviously the Catholic has became more
numerous in the country, were going to be more influential,
and that's why the system militated against Catholicism in America
in the twentieth century, and the Jews and Protestants were
behind that. But the what happened is with liberalism we
talk about taking over the country is in the past,
the countries that expelled them weren't liberal societies. There are
largely integral confessional states and they recognize this group as
an alien group with a different cosmology, worldview and values.
And you know, if you don't share the values of
the political community, you can't be part of that community.
You can come as guests, but you have to abide
by restrictions. But that's very illiberal. So in the wake
of the French Revolution and Napoleon and the emancipation of
the Jews, the system opened up to them, and he Christen.
You talk, technology was a force multiplier. You talk about
mass media, you know, large invented by by by goys,
by the way, but it was utilized Hollywood, the camera,
you know, mass media, uh, radio than television, you know,
the cinema. And so they've they've leveraged this because they've
able you through nepotism of financi which canery networking. These
are things that are largely denied to other ethics, particularly
you know, white Americans or ethnic whites. There was talk
about the Old Boy Network and the Lost Belie. The
funny thing is you could talk about that after you
really couldn't. It was considered impolite before, but it was
considered simply unacceptable after World War Two to talk about
the Jewish network, right, and the Jewish circular economy and
Jewish scheming even though it abounded. They even published books
like like the Authoritarian Personality. They talked about, you know,
dynamic silence and using financial Jewish financial power to midplate
far policy. It's of course, the British Empire had been
taken over by Jewish financial power in the nineteenth century,
and so much of what the British Empire did in
the nineteenth and twentieth centuries largely was done at the
best of Jewish power. In the final analysis, particularly World
War One, and you know, you have the bow for
Declaration and you just read the Baffl Declaration, like, oh,
they're going to use their influence in usually use their
influence in America. They get the country into the war,
despite the fact the vast majority of Americans were against
American entry and into that conflict. So if this is
a beleaguer to press minority that everyone hates, how are
they doing that? And at worked they did it? You know,
they got us into the war, you know, and that
leads to World War Two, and you know, and of
course the debacle of the First World War and the
post war settlement with with the Versaiah Treaty in Weimar
creates conditions in Germany for the rise of Hitler, and
this is admitted that it was the excesses and demands
on Germany, the war guilt clause and sort of the
erect the you know, the idea for retribution. It leads
to the conditions that leads to the rise of Hitler.
Even though that's admitted in the official narrative of World
War Two, they never take any responsibility for advocating those policies.
Does everyone go back and say, oh, well, maybe balf
Or shouldn't have written a letter to Lord Roth's child
to get American too. The war and a peace settlement
could have been struck in nineteen sixteen and we could
have been avoided all the trouble after that. They just don't.
We can't see those events in that context. He gets
cut off. It's like, oh, no, World War two history
begins in nineteen thirty eight in Munich and that's it,
or nineteen thirty six or something, or with Crystal Knock
or something. You know. But it's not like you don't
see how this is all related.
Speaker 1: There's no slippery The slippery slope doesn't exist.
Speaker 2: So even if you accept the official narrative. As Hitler
is the bodoment of all that is evil, you have
to put him in context. How did he come to power?
Why did he come here? What was he reacting to?
What was that a reaction to? And oh why mare?
That was like this intense period of national decomposition. You know,
the country is being raped, you know, your child prostitution,
women and daughter prostitutes because of the currency. Yeah, all
that in the economy and all you know, it's you know,
all because of the consequences of Versailles, uh, promotional pornography,
you know, you know in Germany, which offended these sensibilities
of most Germans at the time. This is there's gonna
be reaction to this. But they, you know, at the
same time they talk about all that was progressive. You know.
Speaker 1: Well, I think one of the problems that we have
is is that we're only allowed to we're taught and
only allowed to look at history as good and evil,
black and white. The I think the interwar period it's
probably the most one of the most interesting periods to
study in history because basically atheism is on the rise,
socialism in all its forms in the in the kind
that the Bolsheviks are promoting in the kind that Mussolini
is promoting, in the kind that you know, the National
Socialists are promoting. That's that's just the day. That's just
what that is.
Speaker 2: Racial hygiene and racial science was the norm. It wasn't
unique to the Third Reich. In fact, anything, a lot
of that was borrowed from from America.
Speaker 1: Oh, most of it was borrowed from America. I mean
that that that's clear.
Speaker 2: German word.
Speaker 1: Patrick Wood. Patrick Wood outlines that in one of his books,
you know, and he's not someone who you know, talks
about Jewish power, but he outlines that where eugenics started
and where it became huge, and the fact that basically
every country in the world was practicing eugenics at the
time was speaking about was looking at the world re
eugenical lens and wonder what that was the United States.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oliver went to Holmes, was a Buck versus Bell,
three generations of iimbusciles enough and they sterilized. You had
to sterilize people as they were considered, you know, clean
enough or smart enough. And they say this was a
practice and this this was kind of memory because in
the nineteenth century you had the collapse of metaphysics among
the elite, and sort of the was that the the
assault on Biblical on the Bible through the New UH
with the new higher learning or something, and the promotion
of Darwinism and to the sense of Darwinism was promoted,
it wasn't because of its scientific rigor or values, because
it presented a certain cosmology that benefited the elite at
the time. And you would sort of the demystification and
the metapha that the death of God if you will,
like meets you wrote about this and the effect that
they would have on how people look at things. And
you have to look at the rise of the Third
Reich in that context some of the views that were
expressed by some of the people. It was mixed, like
any government if anything, you know, the Third direct was
probably as atheistic as the US government officially is. By
the way, you know, Uh, I think even under the
Third Reich that the churches were state supported, I think
I'm not. I know they are in the in the
bundest Republic, the post war government West Germany, uh, but
the United States. So some of these things are like Hitler,
the racialism and some of the the Nordicism, and this
idea of German you know, the uber mentioned and the untermentioned,
these things are wildly exaggerated. And really the views or
even the the members of the Nazi Party weren't that
on racial matters, weren't much different than the say Winston
Churchill at the time broadly speaking. And so the idea
of that, you know, Germany seeing itself as you know,
the Superman, the superior race, and they had to conquer
and kill everyone else. That's that's that's not true. What
Hitler was trying to do is unify the country under
a sort of a a voke culture of evoke narrative.
He couldn't do it under religious terms because Germany had
been shattered because of the Reformation centuries before. So Hitler
the Hitler, the baptized Catholic. But you know, obviously he strayed.
But then again it was generation. I mean, he went
to this guy went to the trenches and he saw
hell on earth. That's going to shatter one's faith. And
so you have to put it. But we can't do
you can't put Hitler in the context because he's just evil, simple,
you know. And if you blame if you blame the
war then you blame everybody involved in that, particularly those
are prolonged it. And that's that goes back to the
Balfol Declaration of the Jews. But it was like Hitler
was trying to unify the country under this you know,
sort of this Wagnerian myth stuff. He couldn't appeal to
Christianity because Germany was divided, you know, so he did
that and perhaps if he had actually embraced Christianity or Catholicism,
he would have been on a stronger footing. But what
was going on there was a larger thing. Germany was
challenging British judaeo, you know, Basonic power represented by the
British Empire and increasedly by America at the time, and Germany,
if it was going to establish itself. Germany's aggressiveness, at
least proced aggressive was born out of its vulnerability because
it saw what happened during World War One with the
Hunger Blockade, and so Britain was able to impose an
illegal hunger blockade. They're mining international waters to impose it,
which is a violation of international law entreaty. They said,
the only way to do it would you break out
their strategic dilemma. So you expand in the ease, get land,
unify the German people and create a mega state. And
you know, but it was continental. And it turns out
that that Hitler at the same time was also in
the third He was able to negotiate a series of
bilateral trade agreements that was getting around the economic blockade
or the economic warfare that had been declared on that
had been declared on Germany by Judea. It's in the
headline the British newspapers Judea clares war on Germany in
nineteen thirty five or thirty four thirty five. This is
we're thirty three, actually this is two three, you're thirty.
This is like a month after he becomes chancellor. And
so the economic warfare is declared by again, by this beleaguered, powerless,
suppressed group. How do they do this? You know? And
so it's a reaction, you know, the the Nuremberg Laws
is a reaction to these things, you know. And so
again we're not not allowed to put the Nuremberg Laws
in their context. It just it's just for some reason,
for no reason at all, all of a sudden, this happens,
you know.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, what the narrative is is that whenever
there's problems in a in a homeland, in a country
that is pretty ethnocentric, they're going to blame the outsider.
And the narrative is is that's what happened. Jews were
in Germany to just be good Germans and make a
good life for themselves. And you know this is evidence
by the fact that one hundred and fifty thousand Jews
served in the Wehrmacht, and you know, and that I
mean not high put it this way, overrepresented proportions of
even the SS were people who were half Jews. And
so this scapegoating of Jews by Hitler was just him
looking was Germany failed on its own? Sure, the Treaty
of Versailles was I mean that, you know, that was
an annoyance. But what they had they needed to find
a scapegoat, and they needed to find a common enemy.
And they found that common enemy in the group that
is always blamed for everything everywhere they've gone for the
for you know, at that point, for the last nineteen
hundred and thirty years. But I you know, you asked
the question is how come they're the ones who always
get blamed. No one was in Russia. No one was
blaming the German farmers. In the Germans who were in
the Palist settlement, who were you know, who took advantage
of an invite to come in and farm some of
the basically the best soil in the world, and they thrived.
But when everything went bad, the Germans weren't blamed. It
was the Jews and apparently they were just sitting there
doing nothing like it, like they always are. They were
just people were jealous of their success, of which farming
wasn't a success at all. It was money lending, it
was usury, it was alcohol, it was owning the ends
and the brothels. It was taking land that was given
to them by you know, by the crown, and turning
that around and leasing it out to peasants instead of
farming it, which was what the the original the original
intention was. They were given farm equipment which they turned
around and sold. But they, I mean, why are they
always blamed?
Speaker 2: Isn't the sort of acknowledge beause the whole I did
remember in Israel first started. It started the kibbutz thing
where you go for work on a farm, acknowledging that
the you know, you got to surmound and stillness and
used to actually do their own agriculture. I think that's
the why that first started. But yeah, in the peril
of this what you had in the Pale in the
nineteenth century, you had a huge population explosion among the Jews.
And when you say all those things that you're involved
with middle end operations, alcohol, finance, there's only so many
slots if you're not engaged in actual commerce or work yourself,
like every you know, if you're working the farm, you're
somewhat self sustaining and then whatever bumper crop or you know,
you know, surplus, you sell and that's how it works.
But it's a hard life, you know, working in the farm.
It's a way of life, if you will. But if
you're not really into that, you know, real work, and
you have a population explosion, which is experienced in the
Pale of Sement, you're not going to be much opportunity.
Uh So you had this mass migration of Jews westward
in the nineteenth century, first into Germany and then in
the United States. And these are the awe student which
the Jews in Germany didn't like because they were dirty
and we spoke a weird language. But there's also this
is also coming of age just to support of what's
called the Jewish Enlightenment, where they're being introduced to radical
Enlightenment ideas. And this is where Jews, you know, with
the instead of sort of being theological Jews, they become
the ideological Jews, but they're still revolutionary. And this is e.
Michael Jones thesis where they embraced all this radicals at
the same time they're the Jews being Jews. They don't
look at some of the problems they've had with the
host population. Is the only thing they do. It's because
everyone hates Jews. It's it's just a craziness and everyone
hates them and everyone else is the enemy. So they
leave Russia with these tales of woes right with the polgrounds,
which are widely exaggerated or they're not put in their context,
meaning offense reaction to some crime or something, series long
chain of abuses and there's a blow up or something.
This is if you look at the really and one thing,
if you actually look at the real programs, they're widely
exaggerated there and they it's almost like the phone thing
where you tell a story gets worse and worse and
worse with each generation. And to this day Jewish children
are told about Cossacks, and you know, it's part of
their identity. So that's that's so, that's why I have
this thing that where you have the source of Jewish
political radicalism is you've, at least according to EMA News
from I read I agree with it, is you have
obviously you have the theological uh aspect to it, where
the Jews, denying, rejecting Christ become the enemies of logos
and order and they become revolutionary in a sense. But
then in the nineteen and twenty century they become they
embrace radical politics and they just transfer it and that's
why they socialism, communism, and even capitalism, which is which
is arguably more revolutionary than communism in the final analysis.
I don't know where I got off on that.
Speaker 1: Tangentle I was talking. I brought up the Yeah, the
the Middle years, the years in the anti Warriors. Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: One of the things when one of the things I've
been contemplating recently is that there's this a pretty famous
article that was written by Jung about Hitler. Yeah, and
he said, when when he was when you talked to Hitler,
it was like you were talking to the.
Speaker 2: Nation mm hmm.
Speaker 1: And he I think he at one point said that
came to then came to the conclusion that he was
that that they were being possessed by this spirit of this,
you know, like God or something like that.
Speaker 2: So now we're getting metaphysics in a sense.
Speaker 1: There, right, And I think well, and I think one
of the one of the biggest problems when you're discussing
history and when you're discussing or mysticism if you will, sure, sure, yeah,
I think one of the biggest problems is when you're
discussing you're discussing politics, is that people tend to leave
that out because we've been taught everything is black and white.
You know, there's an evil side and there's a bad side,
and they fight each other, and isn't it really crazy
that the good the good side always wins. But what
I see is is if you were to take that
on its face and people said the same thing about Napoleon,
that Napoleon it was like he was speaking for his people,
like there.
Speaker 2: Was he was like the spirit of the age in
a way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, correct, So the spirit of the age possesses people,
and it possesses certain people and they become a most
messianic figures. So if you were thinking if someone was
thinking about a messianic figure for the United States, and
people talk about Trump like that, even if he was
the messianic figure, who would he be representing? Because you
can talk about Napoleon and you can talk about the French,
you can talk about Hitler, and you can talk about
the Germans. You can go back and talk about any
great men, Alexander and the Greeks.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because if you even with the say you
just accept the official narrative of World War two and
the Holocaust, Hitler is it's acknowledged that the problem that
wasn't just Hitler, it was the German people. Right, That's
why you have the war guilt and all the thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, that's why you have a two million
up to two million Jews, I mean Germans after the
war who have to be exterminated. Yeah. So in a
country such as the United States, where you have a
black lobby, you have a Hispanic lobby, you have a
Muslim lobby, you have a Christian lobby, you have a
Jewish lobby. What spirit, what spirit could possibly how could
the spirit of the age possibly ever take over an
American president? Who would he be speaking for? There's no
cohesion historically when you look at those people, those men
who are taken over by the spirit of the age,
it's done for a certain people. Who's America Right now?
We could have forty to fifty million illegals here. We
have from what I heard today, two hundred and fifty
thousand Chinese students like Chinese nationals who are students in
this country, fifty five percent of Columbia University according to
recent numbers, or foreigners. And you know, you just all
you have to do is travel this country and you
see people who just they don't There are whole sections
of the country where if you go to Hialia and Miami,
they don't speak English. So who, how is it even
possible to think somebody could get elected in this country?
And who if somebody was possessing the spirit of the age,
what would that even look like? When there is no
American anymore? And then you have people who are like, well,
we know who the Americans are. They're the scotch Irish,
or they're Northern Europeans. Okay, So who who's going to
get elected and make them there. That's my people, that's
who I'm going to fight for. Everyone else the other
probably what one hundred million people, one hundred and fifty
million people they're going to be How does how does
that even work? How do you even how do you
even think about having a leader who an American leader
who embraces the spirit of the age? What spirit? What
are we talking about?
Speaker 2: Well, you're dealing with a problem. When you're dealing with
a polyglot society or empire. How does it managed? In
the past, something like the absterg Empire had what had
a Catholic monarch, right, and there's it brought in all
these disparant groups under Catholicism. The United States originally was
not a nation state. It was a confederation, if you will,
a union of sovereign states that broadly speaking, agreed to
create a common market in mutual defense backed not much
more ambitious than that, really, But immediately you had those
within the government had greater ambition, people like Hamilton, you know,
the Whigs, Henry Clay, Lincoln, and they unified the country
under these sort of American ideals. The civic creed of America,
you know, would unify America, but it was still, you know,
assumed that everyone was going to be European abstraction, you know, extraction, right,
white men. I think the first immigration law that was
passed in the seventeen nineties, I think it was seventeen
ninety two was a citizenship was restricted to a white
man of good character and understood that. You know, the
black slaves, no, they you know, they're not citizens. They're people,
but they're not citizens. They just simply don't. American Indians
were an ailing factor. American Indians were on par with
foreign nations if you look at the the commerce clause,
like America whereas the president has right go straight basically
is it the commerce Club mentioned that, but basically foreign
nations and Indian tribes I meaning they're on par with
foreign nations. In fact, I don't think American Indians became
citizens till the nineteen twenties. Obviously, black speaking, full citizens
in the wake of the Civil War, with the with
the thirteenth fourteenth for well probably the fourteenth thevent would
apply directly to that. So that's so you've had this
sort of this gradual we have had. We've had three
republics in the United States. We're the third Republic right now.
You had obviously had the Old Republic that endured roughly
until eighteen sixty one. You could see the Second Republic
when we're out of the Civil War, reconstruction roughly up
to you well, you could say great Depression of World
War One, the thirties or forties, right these eighty years
cycles now we're dealing because of the intrigues of saying that.
You know, largely the Jewish intellectuals in the twentieth century,
working through the you know, the American Jewish Committee Adluh
and the Cultural Marxist the Franfurt School, they largely decomposed
what unified America. And although America was various different ethnic whites,
they had a broad idea of what America was. There's
sort of ethnogenesis that are curb pe you knew what America.
America was a cowboy, it was John Wayne. These ideas
broadly vaguely Christian, but that didn't hold because it was
intentionally taken apart and decomposed. And you could see that
in things like the nineteen sixty five Immigration Act, which
when it was signed we were promised that it would
not changed the ethnic making of the country. It's interesting
at the time politicians had to give that lip service.
You go ahead, forty fifty years in the future, if
you expressed this same concern, you would call it a racist.
But they knew that changing the country's demographics, is ethnicity,
would changed the country's politics. That's what the Great Replacement
is all about. It's anti white because what you know,
they call it white because these are deracinated white ethnics,
and so they're easily oh, you're just white. You know.
It's a bit more complicated than that, but it's it's
basically it's a war on everything that's Western Christian, broadly Christian,
and the weaknesses. You know, I have my point of
view and my background is this is something that sort
of was baked in the cake of the founding of
the country because it was based on Enlightenment liberal principles,
and these are flawed ideas, and it's based on bad theology,
bad sociology, bad philosophy, and it's going to it's producing
the very thing that was meant to do. You arguably,
and you just and I mean, you can have these
liberal pretensions, you can have liberal institutions if it's based
on a firm foundation of hierarchy and authority, and because
America was so decentralized up until the twentieth century, it
tended to work. You had local hierarchies and these things
are often illiberal. You could oologize it and tell horror
stories that we hear about the South and all that.
You can do that with any society, focus on the negative,
not putting the negative in its proper context, like the
South in the twenty and they before nineteen fifty four. Well,
you can't look at the problems in the South and
the you know from eighteen sixteen six to nineteen sixty
five that century without putting the context of the Civil War, reconstruction,
the destruction that that that was wrought on the South,
and the anarchy that was imposed on the South right
after the Civil War. So there was a reaction to it.
They had a lot of crime down there, a lot
of problems with blacks, but that wasn't the narrative, you know,
So that was that was So you know, it's again
and this is when you when you when the when
the political leadership, working with interest groups like the American
Jewish Community ADL, purposely conspire to change the ethnic makeup
of the country to change his politics. You get we
have today, which is ungovernable mess. So there is no
representative of the people. You can't because there are there
is no longer an American people to represent, you know.
And so what it devolves to was, ultimately you can't
rely on civic institutions. You can't rely on the constitution,
you can't rely on the legislative process. You certainly can't
rely on the judiciary. That's a clown show. So it
eventually what you get is someone who cuts the Gordian
knot and you get a strong man. You know, you
can say that's Trump. Well, Trump is evidently still controlled
by the very powers that decompose the country. Look at
our foreign policy. You know, it's a mess, but it's
you know, it's something that's going to have to work
itself out eventually, and I don't think it's gonna work
itself out under the contours of the current system. So
we're seeing a collapse of the third Republican. What's on
the other end, the fourth system is any man's bed,
But I think it's going to be decentralized, you know,
So we're going to revert to perhaps a more manageable system.
The original founding was manageable, and you had a motive
of a vending in the twenty century when you had
sort of ethnic enclaves in the north, you the South,
that the social engineers came. We had some sweet tell
us in the forties about racier relations. Is if you
do anything about the problems Gunnar Myerdol in American Dilemma
some Swedes telling. Of course he didn't write that book
is written by Jews at the University of Chicago. He
was just a ghost writer. But you know, you know,
but if I point that out, I'm a racist because
I read books.
Speaker 1: Well. One of the I guess one of the problems
you mentioned there is that you get these people who
control your foreign policy. And I think one of the
things that even even like Michelle Fuco pointed out was
that when you when you have an empire or when
you have a huge focus overseas and it's warlike, eventually
it's going to come home. And I think the War
on Terror, you saw the War on Terror come home
in many ways. You saw that culminating in the Biden administration,
where I don't think either one of us think Biden
was in charge pulling any strings obviously, I mean everything,
it seems like everything was being signed with the with
the robot pen whatever they call that thing, but it was.
It ended up coming home and being a war on
whoever spoke out pretty much against the post war consensus.
And they didn't even have to speak out against the
post war consensus. They just had to be a threat
to it. They had a question, they could just question one,
not like a person like myself who questions the entire thing.
They just had to question one aspect of it, and
they could get on the radar and they could be targeted.
Look at the J sixers. I mean, these are the
half of them were boomers who just walk through a
door because they're retarded.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you when you ask me if I question
the post work and census, I do. But I'm talking
about the English Civil War.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Peloponnesian War. But the now look
at what you're look what's happened. So a lot of
these wars were for Israel. I mean pretty much everything
that's happened since since the nineties, most of the wars
are just basically for Israel. Well, Israel, Ukraine's winding down
hopefully maybe who the hell knows. Israel is just bombing
anything that they can they can and want to, and
the United States is now involved and their lobbing bombs
into Yemen and the wars. That war is coming home,
the especially the war in Gaza. The war in Gaza
is a war where Jews went to a place where
most of them have no tie to. Most of them
are Europeans. I saw a video the other day, Every
Prime Minister of Israel change her name.
Speaker 2: Oh there was was that Jimmy Dorris show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jimmy dor Yeah, Jimmy door was showing. Yeah, featured
that video. Everyone, every single one has a European last
name ends in Ski or Berg or something like that.
And when when they went to the Middle East, they
changed it to make it sound more well what Semitic, Yeah,
more you know, I know, I know, Semitic relates to
a language. Make it sound more like they're from that area,
more more along line with classic like Mizrahi Jew names
or something like that. People from that area. They just
changed their names because their names were a lot of
them had their ancestors had gone to Germany and just
taken German names or taken Russian names.
Speaker 2: Yes, which is why I'm so confused German Russians with Jews. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, so you go to you you watch them now
basically bombing the living ship with stuff that we supply them.
Speaker 2: Just the starving death.
Speaker 1: Yeah, starving them. I mean if they send they'll send
in ambulances and they'll wait. You know, there was this
one there was this one report I saw where, you know,
some Zionists on Twitter was like, look at these animals.
One of their people, one of their people is dead
and a dog is eating them. And we're like, yeah,
you know why because if someone goes out there to
try and recover the body, you'll shoot them. That's why
they're not recovering bodies. You fucking scumbag, you know. And
so now they're doing this they have all they're full
of pisson vinegar. People in the United States are starting
to quote unquote notice, especially since October seventh, that holy crap,
these people are literally insane. They're they're fighting a race
war right now and something.
Speaker 2: People don't realize this and US government, Donald Trump or
Joe Biden, people in the areas, we've attached yourselves to
this crazy state, and it's getting crazier because the Messrai
are becoming more influential and there's no negotiating here. They
don't negotiate, they don't effect of any And then you
have the other. Yeah, you have these the evangelical Christians
who believe this sort of this eschological eschaological thing where yeah,
we'll promote a war and this will force Jesus to
come down again or something, and this is guiding policy.
So this idea of us and negotiate, and it's the
idea of the US is an honest broken This is absurd.
It's like the same thing with Ukraine, with Trump was
trying to negotiate. US isn't an honest broker in these conflicts.
They either they support them or they fermented them. You know.
It's like wait, and the Russians know this, everyone else
knows this. There's no honest there's no element in the
US government right now that wants to negotiate honestly with
the with the that one guy was a bowland or
bowler who he's a Jew himself, who actually gave some
time to the to the Hamas, was immediately kicked out
his Trump's envoy to that because he said they might,
you know, they they're worth talking to. We can't have that.
The same time, the hunger blockade is completely illegal. It's
a violation only of international law. The UN has condemned it,
and it's against US law, you know that they're simply
according to the US law. You know, Israel is no
longer qualified legally to receive aid because they're involved in
illegal you know, uh, blockading of a humanitarian aid and
the who this Yemen to the extent that they're you know,
closing threatening the shipping lanes there, particularly as relationships. I
don't think they've ever attacked an American ship, even though
America has attacked them or has attacked them through the
proxies like Saudi Arabia with the past sorry ten years,
fifteen years or something. They're simply enforcing a UN resolution
that the US doesn't support because it's Israel, you know.
But they're they're they're violating the law openly, and again
no one's calling them out on it within the US government.
Speaker 1: Well that's because they control the US government. Yeah, and
they bra and they brack about it. I'm not This
isn't a conspiracy theory. This isn't me invoking like terms
from the eighties like Zog, they brack up at it.
They they openly brag about it. Net Yahoo was caught
on what was even caught He was giving a public
spec the other day saying, look, how we've look, how
we've controlled anti semitism in the United States. And that's
what it is is I was making. I was making
the point that they have this war, that that they've
been going on this you know, this rossen Grieg since
October seventh, and as soon as people started waking up
to it in the United States, and not only people
just regular on the street, but you know, a lot
of quo quote unquote content creators and podcasts start talking
about it. Well, the war comes home. Now it's a
war on people who are talking about it, who are
who are noticing it, who are saying, this is just
this is just a race war. And you know, I
thought this was something that they you know, that they hated,
that this was in their history that you know that
makes them the eternal victim. And there are people who
are actually out there celebrating the fact that you know,
people on college campuses who you know are here legally
in some way, shape or form, are being deported for
supporting Hamas or are they being kicked out because they're
criticizing Israel and these people who are like, well, you know,
at least we're getting rid. It's like, okay, so this
is at least we're getting you know, we need deportations. Okay,
it's one person. Aren't you the same person who's complaining
that Trump isn't deporting enough people? But this one person
makes you happy. This is your cope. Your cope is
that they're getting rid of this one person that you
don't like, probably doesn't like white people. Okay. When does
this filter down to Americans? When does it filter down
to Americans whose families are heritage Americans or families who've
been here for one hundred years, one hundred plus years.
When do we start getting you know, thrown in jail,
When do we start getting arrested? When do our lives
start getting torn apart? Because as they brag about, they
control our government, they control our politicians, they control basically
everything in this country. They control Hollywood, they control banking,
they control the media. They brag about it. This isn't
a conspiracy theory. They brag about it. And while they're
basically on an extermination campaign, and if you talk about it,
there's something wrong with you. And the power of the
United States government, the biggest government of all time, and
a government that has no problem killing their own citizens.
By the way, what am I supposed to back?
Speaker 2: Am?
Speaker 1: I supposed to stand by and cheer this? Sure, I
wanted Trump. I preferred Trump over over Kamala all day
because I mean, I think it would be ten times Actually,
this would be ten times worse under Kamala. Look who
she's married to me you think it would be any
different at least I think now that I'm thinking more
about it is I think this more than you know
have Some people said I'd rather have Kamala be elected
because it would radical lot That would radicalize more people.
You know, if Kamala got elected, a lot of people
are going to sit back and be like, let Trump
do whatever he wants. But if Kamala gets elected, that
will radicalize No. I'm thinking this is gonna this more
than anything, is going to start radicalizing people, and it's
going to start radicalizing the right people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's again, it's just it's exposing again just how
much control they have, and that's by partisans both parties.
It doesn't matter who's installed in the White House. And
you've noticed that when Trump first started this momentum with
these high profile executive orders regarding immigration and the cultural war,
with us AID being shut down, doge in these things.
But what happens, Uh, you have jugitial obstructionism. You have
these judges. They're saying, you know, you can't do this,
and you know because Trump the Mistress has and should
continue to ignore those things and not get to cut uh,
you know, bog down in litigation because it's not legitimate,
and let the political process work out, mean, challenge the
judicial power in these things and see what happens there,
because you just can't let judges circuit court judges tell
you how to defend the border. And that's ridiculous obviously,
when these sort of court judges like the Boseburg you know,
who's a Jew from San Francisco, Scull and Bones whose
father worked for Sergeant Striver's office Economic Opportunity, which was
carrying out its own color revolutions internally in the sixties,
supporting local you know gangs. These are basically these are
terrorist operations to break up ethnic neighborhoods. That's what it
was caught doing. So he comes from that, mealiu, if
you will, that an attitude, the sort of managerial state, unaccountable,
crypto bureaucracy is doing these things. This is his attitude.
So and you know his families. His daughter makes money
off a program, is fun of the USAID, and his
wife is a big activist. So these aren't you know,
dispassionate uninterested parties. These are actual these just political activism.
But look how now the Trump administration is obsessed with
acting as a proxy for Israel. The only reason why
there isn't a nuclear agreement with Iran and why there's
any conflict between Nited States and Iran is because of Israel.
Otherwise there's no reason for a conflict. The embassy thing
was forty six years ago, forty five years ago, remember
nineteen seventy nine, and you know, and you have to
put that in its context. You know, why did that happen?
It had something to do with events back in nineteen
fifty three, you know. But we're told that's ancient history.
But then again, what happened supposed to happen in Poland
night between nineteen thirty nine and nineteen forty five is
always relevant in one camp or a few camps or
something that's that's not ancient history. We always have to
remember even though what we're told happen is constantly changing.
So I don't how to remember a story that keeps changing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I just at this point, I think that,
you know, one of the things I said a good
thing about Trump getting elected was would just it would
give us vastly more room to plan and do things
than if Kamala got elected. I mean, remember, yeah, Trump
is Trump is acting like this freaking arch zionist right now,
which is you.
Speaker 2: Know, it's embarrassing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's embarrassing. Remember at least there, at least there
is a portion of America out there of our people
that he doesn't hate. Yes, and Kamala hated. There are
whole sections that who she represented hated and wanted dead.
I mean that, I mean there is that's not hyperbole.
And they wanted people dead. They were calling people fascists,
they were throwing people, I mean, throwing people in jail
for how for how long? Throwing people in jail through
women in jail for preying outside of a porch clinics, yea.
Speaker 2: The Merck Carlands fbis harassing Catholics. The Jew Merrick Grland
was harassing Catholics.
Speaker 1: I think it well, I mean well, I mean I
think we know what. I think, we know how they
feel about Catholics.
Speaker 2: The story, it's like, why is this happening. It's because
you're a liberal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're liberals and they're leftists. No, because they're
possessed by a spirit of hatred of whites and Christianity.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And you know, not to mention all the victims
of January six, right, the thousand or so that were
in prison, part so.
Speaker 1: That people who weren't even there, people who aren't people
don't even know people, people who weren't even there were
thrown in jail, people who were in telegram groups talking
about going there, and you know, saying well, this is
what we should do, this is what we should do
to stop this ill and they got thrown in jail too.
So it is even with Trump's hyper zionism, is he better? Probably?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we won't have a training Easter a hunt on
the Easter Sunday, I mean yeah. So that's that's a
function of these culture issues is to consume your time
and absurdities like arguing about transgenderism. I know, we have
to talk about it because you know, they're infesting our
schools and taking over libraries. Then they blame you for
talking about it, like what what what am I supposed
to do there? You know, my children are being raped
in public, mentally raped, or being being groomed in schools,
you know, and so Uh. But at the same time
you have this, you know, Trump's maneuvered into being a
proxy for Israel, which isn't surprising. Unfortunately, I just suspected
that would happen and it did. Uh. He's trying to
like today's isn't today Liberation Day?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he announced a whole bunch of tariffs that he
was going to He's matching up tariffs.
Speaker 2: And why liberation Day for higher terrorfs? Why is he
using that technology for? Well, it does a signal a
coherent long term strategy to reorient the US economy, to
reshore industry return you know, receipt from empire, develop a
hemispheric strategy of multipolarity, of basically a balance of power strategy,
getting away from the unipolarity and the bipolarity that you know,
we've been used to since nineteen you know, forty five
and a return to normalcy, reshoring, rebuilding the US economy,
reorienting it, and negotiating some sort of transition period that
the dollar doesn't collapse in the process because the sentim
you have to maintain the dollars reserve status to navigate this,
or are these tarriffs just fit you know these so
there's you know, scatter brain threats like well, you know,
I want to punish Canada. I want to they're not
enforcing the vorder, you know it's because of you know,
drugs or something. Or is it a long term strategy
saying to them you can't if it is a long
term strategy, which I support, to develop a sort of
a weird has he ever has Trump ever heard of
list the economist of Count Vita the Russian idea of
internal and Putin apparently gives a talk recently talking about
this out the The reality is they Russia and adversaries
of the Anglo American Jewish power is you have to
He didn't phrase it in that term, but that's what
he's talking about. Basically, the American Empire of the West
is that sanctions are just the norm. They're trying to
prevent a circular internal economy from developing this Belton Road
and all that so they can maintain their dominance. Putin
understands that that's what Ukraine is a symptom, that an
expression of this thing. Basically it's the mckinder doctor and
that led to the second first and second World or
in the past century, you know, is so it's it's
basically it's going to be spheres of influence, economic blocks,
internal development, that sort of thing. And so the the
this the sort of this the EU's lust for war
even though they don't have an industry or an army,
and the Ukraine this is their attempt to break that
up and it's not succeeding because Europe Russia's actually become
economically more independent, stronger after the UH the after the
Ukraine War than they were before because basically they've dealt
with the sanctions and they've responded well in the sures
that they're sanctioned proof and all that. If that's the reality,
then Trump uh has to reach you know, is you
going to retrieve from empire? Is you going to pull
back the bases, slash the military budget, deal with the
debt and negotia eight the dollars transition into one of
many currencies backed up by real by US industry and
real production, which means have to re short not just
based on finance and chicanery, which the US county has
been for decades. If he's going to negotiate that, he's
going have to end the empire. And part of the
end of that empire is extricating ourselves from this little
plot of land in the Middle East, Israel, which is
the size of New Jersey, and separating ourselves from Israel
and from Jewish power. But is there any consciousness of
that in the Trump administration or any you know, there
isn't that from what I can tell. It's it's they're
working across purposes here. You can't be worried about Israel
and Iran at the same time try to carry out
domestic reforms. You got to end the empire, you know,
and we could be a we could be a regional empire.
That's what powers have always been, and you know, you know,
sort of be a good neighbor policy that it was
before before Wilson wilsoniansm in the in the First World War,
or maybe before the Spanish American War, that was sort
of they are leaping the empire at least, you know,
a blue navy and a have an ocean, whereas as
opposed to a continental empire, which is fundamentally different by
the way how they operate. There's a there's a sort
of a if you're a sea power, you act like
you know, you act like Britain, and you're become Leviathan,
and you become you engage in all this chican you
become you know, a a scheming you know. What's the
uh uh what they call England yuh albion what they
called it, England's nickname.
Speaker 1: Oh you got me?
Speaker 2: Ah, So, the the idea is, uh, if you're a
land power engaged in messy industry, you're you're basically you're
you're the culture of the nation is different, you know,
you know, it's it's like the difference between Germany and
Great Britain, you know, or it's the sea powers versus
the land power. Perfidious Albion is what I was thinking.
The term perfidious Albion, and America has been sort of
a successor to that. Now it's you know, the perfidious
uh you know, uh, I guess like America or whatever.
Speaker 1: Well, what I was thinking is going back to the
metaphysical conversation I was talking about, is is that if
you're going to have I think, going forward, having any
hope of the blessings of God, the spirit of the
Age coming from God and giving you the blessings you need,
you're you're going to have to concentrate on being around
your own people, and we're going to with your own people,
and you know, basically gate keeping the crap out of it.
And I think that is I think that's something that
can be done in this country. The gate keeping part.
Speaker 2: If you appeal a lot, you have to repeal. You
get ahold of repealed the sixty five Immigration Act, you
have to maybe develop reverse quotas, acknowledge that actually some
value to that. You have to repeal the sixty four
Civil Rights Act. You know, that's a people have been
you know, brainwashed. But these things are just sort of
Sacker saying they're unalloyed good things. You know, it's basically
you have to it's an assault on modernity.
Speaker 1: And one I think I think that's one of the
reasons why you have to have you know, you have
to be surrounded with people who think like you do.
MH and and share, you know, sharing a sharing your culture,
sharing your language, sharing your heritage. And yeah, I think
that once people get get the idea that by coming
together and being in a group that has a focus
and has a purpose, that you can you're you're not
gonna be able to reverse those on a national level,
but you'll definitely and especially while this is a occupied
country where you basically can't get I mean, what was
what was a number one third of the judges in
the DC district were born in another country? Ye, and yeah,
well that happens, that happens purpose.
Speaker 2: Yes, it doesn't happen because America land of opportunity and
these people no, no, they're being installed to deconstruct and
decompose what remains of America. That they're eight, they're foreign agents,
they're commisaurs. No.
Speaker 1: Well, and if if people can do that purposefully, wilfully,
then you can accomplish a lot willfully and purposely if
you want to do it. And I think people have
gotten this idea that, oh, but the cities, there's so
much power in the cities. And I was talking to
guy John Moody recently, who's a big food food advocate,
hangs out with guys like Joel Saladson does events with him,
and yeah, he made the point that the more powerful
and the more focused that rural communities get, that weakens
the cities because then you don't have to rely upon
on them. It takes a lot of power away from them.
You can also choose not to do business with them
because you're building, you're building up. You can choose not to.
You know, if you have a farm and you're like,
if you just concentrate on selling to any place but
a city, you can weaken them. You can weaken their power.
The more the more power you have at the local level,
the county level, the less that that town, that city,
that that big city, you know, the Atlantas and the
the Birmingham's and the you know, the Nashville's, less power
they have over you. But people don't want to hear
that because most people don't know the name of their mayor,
they don't know anyone on their city council, and they've
been conditioned believe that the only way anything can be
done is on the national level. A lot of people
don't Most people don't even vote in their state, voting
their state elections, vote for their governor, Yeah, there are
states that are better than others. I think my state
is does a really good job of people voting in
their state wide elections. But for the most part, people
just want to elect, just want to elect the president
and pray that, you know, he's that messianic figure that's
going to come to save them. I don't I don't
see that happening, not in the multicultural paradise and the
multi racial paradise that we existed.
Speaker 2: There are some structural changes you could to encourage that.
One would be to repeal the seventith Amendment and also
have state legislatures actually elect the president. That's what it
used to be until I think Jackson was the first
president where most he actually elected with the most states.
With the electoral college was decided at a large, the
legislators could vote to say, hey, we appoint the electors,
and that's how elections. That way, legislatures, state legislatures elected
to their people would decide who the president is. We
would be bespared presidential politics, which would be great, but
also it would focus more on the states, meaning most
people would be interested in their state politics. So that
were the case, because that's where the decisions are being made.
Of course, having senators appointed by this state legislatures. The
original idea would do the same thing as they'd be
ambassadors for the sovereign states. But all that was averse
because there was a matter rush for democracy in chase
the oligarchs, the people who control like democracy because they
control the printing press or they controlled media, so they
can easily, do you know, with mass media, manipulate public opinion,
public passions, and that's why they're in favor of mass democracy,
universal franchise, and that's why they want teenagers and women voting.
You know, it's like, oh yeah, to really make it
easy to maniplate the people er the guys of democracy.
And of course there are difference of democracy, as we
see in Europe with the a f D in Germany
or what's happening in Romania. And let you know, it's
not you're not democratic unless you support sodomy and mass migration,
what you know, all the usual you know, uh uh,
you know ideas or you know that that comprised you know,
you know global homo or the the enthusiasms, if you will,
the modern modernity. If you're not support of all that stuff,
you're not democratic. You only democratic democratic if you support
all the so called progressive agenda. So that's you could
do that, and that's one of the things says, well,
let's have that structural change, and that would force interest
into the states and more localism. That's one thing you
could do, and that's probably not gonna happen, of course,
because we would be told that's undemocratic, even though the
Senate by its very name undemocratic. So is the judiciary.
So again, they used democracy, but they're embraced judicial activism
when it serves them too, as they have in the
last century. But there's an interesting how, you know, even
like going back to the Trump administration is he reported
he appointed Robert F. Kennedy Junior as the head of
the Department of Health Human Services. Of course, given RFK
Junior's activism regarding food and medicine and skepticism towards vaccines,
a lot of people were, well, this is really revolutionary.
But what does RFK Junior do. His first major announcement
is announcing anti sempittism is a public health matter.
Speaker 1: It's like what, well, yeah, and you know, and why,
you know, I appreciate your you know, talking about repealing
the Civil Rights Act and repealing the seventeenth then all
these things, we can't even get a president in there
who will remove judges who are basically blocking his constitutional
what he is authorized to do by the Constitution.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I mean until you get someone in there with
the will to say, you know, well we're going to
go back to the constitution. Okay, well we're going to
go back to the constitution.
Speaker 2: A will to power.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's still But but you know, even if
you get that president, okay, who who is he the
president of? What's America? What's an American? At this point,
I mean, I still hold out hope that Trump is
going to Trump is going to deport a lot of people,
you know, millions of people. A lot of people probably
think at this point that that's cope and and problem.
You know, you know, it's just hope. I'm hoping he
does it. I'm not saying he's going to do it.
But if he doesn't, I mean, what is America.
Speaker 2: Yes articulated reason to do it is the millions of
foreigners coming into the country is knowing a violation of
the country's sovereignty, said threat to its national security and
its identity. That is self evident. You know, it's you
can tolerate.
Speaker 1: Does he know what? Does he know what America's identity is?
Speaker 2: No, because he's a boomer and there's nothing wrong with
being born Durween nineteen forty six and nineteen sixty four.
But that generation was brainwashed, inculcated a certain amount of
presuppositions or ideas. One of his worship of Jews, right,
and it's a problem. And uh again it's somebody said,
does he know a good clip? Does he know that
when he was shutting down USAA USAID and going after
all this culture stuff that he was raising his oblique
attacks on Jewish power. I don't know if he knew
that or not. He was right because when the moment
you shut them and all the woke stuff, it's all
the stuff is Jewish, you know, all the feminists, queer
clap trap that these programs produced, whether it's you know, uh,
transgender wrote operas in Venezuela or here turns it turns
out USA it actually paid Time magazine the main Zielenski
man of the year. That's our free press. No one
reads Time Magazine anymore, So it doesn't matter, I suppose,
But you know, it's like, why, it's just this is
supporting international development. You know. Obviously, Time magazine, I mean,
has always been an organ of the regime. It's been
a propaganda organ. That's another thing Americans that Henry Lewis
was scull and bones. He had he had an agenda
of the American Center was there to program and brainwashed
you know, half wits or mid wits about you know,
the US government's role in the world. Because he was
upset when he was served in worldar One that the
Doe Voice no idea why they were dying and drows
in the trenches that needed to be programmed, to be brainwashed.
So that's why they came out of this Man of
the Year clap traps that the eders of Time magazine
gonna tell us who the great people are? You know,
no one reads it anymore. It's been by It's magazines
are now absolute. Technology doesn't matter anymore. Now I have
other methods of control, and I have social media in
these things. Obviously, it's harder to control because it's it's
not as central anymore. It's not not three or four
networks and a few newspapers, and now it's social media media.
But you know it's yeah, it's just the just the
liberalism's endgame. That's what it is. Again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, you know, I'll say it again,
thinking that this can just be fixed, is you know,
just be fixed by one person coming in. Well, I
mean there's so much, there's so much to dismantle.
Speaker 2: Well, there there is something to the some people have
talked about sort of you know, this is the will
to power. And of course it's apparently if you do
it from the right, it's evil. Or if you're decisive
and you act like a Franco does, you're you're you know,
you're you're you're evil, but you know it's okay. If
you do it from the left, all right, that's just
a bias of you know, academy and the system and
the But the good example of judges, right you have
John Roberts says, well, no, we shouldn't impeach judges. Well,
why is there a method for doing it? Then? Wait
a second, shouldn't whether or not you should be doing
what judge we're talking about, and what is the judge doing.
Judges serve for a period of good life or a
period of good behavior, So there is there is oversight
to the Judiciary Committee, there's a method for impeaching a judge,
so obviously implies that the founding fathers did foresee, it's
a situation where judges, being people or so to the
same temptations original sin, greed, power, lust, whatever. Uh, well,
from time time have to be removed. You know. Obviously
these judges are not are acting in bad faith, and
they should be removed by one way or another. The
problem is that the system sort of the procedures we've established,
whether it's like alleged, our Congress doesn't represent the American
people anymore. It's been stuck at four hundred and thirty
five for how long? When's the less time Congress.
Speaker 1: Expanded over a century?
Speaker 2: Right? Right? Well, guess with the states. What I'm saying
is it's been on that it used to be. I
think when Congress each representative was like thirty thousand people.
Now it's like set like eight six hundred to eight
hundred thousand people. So the hasher to representative doesn't really
serve as as it used to. Right So, and it's
of course because of lobbying and because of corporate power
and corporate personhood, right and you know, the ex important decisions.
Is they're all controlled and in per say, it's controlled
by particular lobby. As you know, it's the ad L
controls Congress or or a pack which is if APAC
is an agent of a foreign government. The fact that
it's not required to register as a foreign agent shows
the control. Even though it's obvious that it's the American
Israeli Political Action Committee, it was used to be, I
think the American Zionist Committee. In fact, it was John
Kennedy and his brother Robert F. Kennedy were trying to
make them register as a foreign agent under under the
under the law the Foreign I think far a Foreign
agenty Registration Act, and just after that John F. Kenny
got has head blown off, you know. But but my
point is is that so we if you don't have
a Congress that represents us, and they're they're they're controlled
by a lobby which represents a foreign power, not just Israel.
I would argue that the Jewish people are a foreign people,
and they admit as much with Zionism they are. They
organize as a foreign collect they're a foreign entity operating
within our government, pursuing their union, their interests as they
see them. In contradistinction and opposition to the general public.
That's how they see themselves. Okay, so we don't have
a representative government. Our judicial branch doesn't operate as it's
supposed to operate. So when you get a system like
that is it's going to require something again to cut
the gordy not into act. So the liberal system has
been so corrupted that we can't rely on normal procedure
at this point. You need someone to act from time
to time. That has occurred in history, like the Spanish
Republic decomposed in the nineteen thirties, and they had a
civil war over it, and it took someone to act,
you know, with force will to act, and that's what happened.
It happened in Germany, and I don't know what happened
in Germany. You know, obviously it wasn't just inevitable, because
if you get in the intrigues of the late thirties
and thirties, you realize war wasn't really started by Hitler.
It's much more complicated than that. And as you said,
the thirties are much more interesting than were led to believe,
you know, and if you look into that, it wasn't
that war was not inevitable. And I would say that
any any German statesman or German leader, fear if you will,
or chancellor who would that asserted Germany's rights and sought
to establish German independence would have found themselves in the
same predicament Hitler did in you know, in nineteen thirty
nine or nineteen forty forty one. You know, it was
a you know, the bigger things were happening, and uh
and so this is the they let me take him
back to going back to America. It's just, you know, again,
the system doesn't work anymore. You know.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, you talk about in Germany and that they're.
Speaker 2: Did it ever? Did it ever work?
Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, well it's it's worse here, and it's on
so much larger a scale. I mean, the Jews didn't
control every member of government in Germany. No, yeah, they didn't.
They didn't. They well, they did control a lot of
the mechanisms of culture. But also they didn't have Israel
at the time. No, they didn't have a state in
the Middle East. They didn't have a place that they
could run to. They also didn't have a place that
they could go to organize. They didn't have a place
where if they committed a crime in one country, they
could they could escape there and there's no extradition. They
didn't have a Yeah, I mean it's a it's a
place where they go to. Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2: In course, back then, if someone called out Jewish paracriticized
Jewish collective behavior, they couldn't accuse you of being Hitler
because no new Hitler was yet.
Speaker 1: Well, they could accuse you of being Henry Ford, the
use you of being Charles Lindberg or Father Coughlin. Now
they just call you woke, right because you know you're
you're you're you're actually noticing that, hey, there's and there's
a group that identifies himself as an ethnic group and
a race and a religion. And the narrative is is
that if you talk about them or you you're allowed
to talk about them. If you're praising them, you're allowed
to talk about them. If you're being sympathetic to their plight,
you're not allowed to talk about them when they collectively
do something wrong, or when you know one like Jeffrey Epstein,
who we know is a part of a network that
goes right back to Israel. But just say it's one,
you're not allowed to point that out. You're not allowed
to point out that. You know, when you look at
basically every in the world. Jewish Congress brags about this,
that every cultural, every cultural movement that has contributed to
the degradation of the culture and religion in this country
and people's faith, they brag and say they were in
charge of it. Dennis Prager says it everyism except Nazism
was backed and run by Jews. But he's bragging. And
if you brag about it, if you go, why are
you bragging about that? I mean, like, you know, Communism
killed one hundred million people in different countries, killed ten
million people before World War Two even started. Why are
you bragging about that? Why is Barbella in respector saying
saying Europe is going to be overrun by immigrants from
the Third World and Jews are going to be blamed
for it. But because they're the ones who are going
to do it, somehow it's necessary. Yeah, And now it's
I mean, if I were like a Swede, I was like,
why is that necessary? Well, because you nine million Swedes
identifying as Swedes being closely related. Is the situation that
Jews fine and tolerable for some reason. And of course
Swedes were softened up for this because they embraced feminism
in the sixties far more than it was ever embraced
like in the United States, which made society much more vulnerable,
you know, to be.
Speaker 2: To those things. One thing that leads to smaller families.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, as you as you said, they when they
get power and they get influence, it usually degenerates and
it usually turns into you know, the point where people,
you know, the overwhelming a good amount of people and
people who are elites or people who are willing to
take power notice it, yeah, and start to say, well,
this little organized minority, which you know, a minority group,
a small group organizes much better than three hundred and
fifty million people. Three hundred and fifty million people can't
organize anything, but you know, one hundred two hundred people,
the two thousand people a Kanesse, the city of London,
you know, the WF they can all. They can organize
because they're a small group and they get it. They
get in a room together and like, okay, well what
we what can we do? What is in our interest?
And if they don't have your interest, if their interest
butts up against your interest. And they have power and
they have the will to use it, and they and
they control, they control the narrative that the press is
going to put out there and say, well, this is
good for everybody, even though it's you know, empirically not
Oh what do you do? I mean, the only thing,
you know, what I've heard from what I've heard from you,
is what you were basically hoping that someone gets elected
who has will to power and stops us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously be nice. If there is a
some sort of magicals, you know, trans mass consciousness and
all of a sudden, Uh, there's a strong majority elected
in both housands of Congress and a president and they
were able to important judges, and there was just the
a will to reimpose traditional American values and the under
the civic creed and and uh, you know the idea
that you had to enforce it. That's not gonna happen.
It's uh, you know, his story is that suggest that
it's like a Roman empire. You need someone like if
you're going to extend it out of Lloyd, you need
some like a Diocletian or something. They come in and
just reimpose the order, and this usually requires restrictions of
some one degree or another. But the authoritarian, uh, reaction
is a reaction, you know. And so if there's any
blame to grounds, to those who precipitated the reaction with
it with the initial action, of course.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know it's you know, it's what's wrong, what's
wrong with It's just like you know, what's wrong with America.
And as I read more about it, think about it,
and it's a Catholic, I become more ambivalent about America
itself because it's it's found again. It was founded on
the theological error, and all problems stem from theological mistakes
and in the human affairs, and so the country was founded.
It was Enlightenment ideas and Protestantism, well Protestantism is a
Jew is a judaizing force. I know, Protestant I don't
like to hear that, but it really is. It's if
you think of you, if you look into it. And
it merged with sort of this American idea of exceptionalism
along with sort of this oh disorganized biblical so you know,
biblical culture, you know, frontier religion and these things. Uh,
And this resulted in this development of what's called dispensationalism
that looked for the Old Testament and these This was
Prottantism because it rejected, it rebelled against the Catholic Church.
It had to appeal to the Old Testament. And that's
inherently it's going to be a judaizing power once this occurs.
And I know because against Anthi Catholicism is very strong
in America. Is they don't a lot of Americans don't
like to look at that because the their identity. Really
even though they don't go to church anymore, they're still Protestants.
These are the white guys that don't go to church anymore,
the name Michael Jones or Firs Doll so which you know,
the problem with America is a lot of it is
is the power. It's it's evangelical Protestantism, which is used
by the Jewish lobby. Israel exploits that. So you're talking
what America finds itself now is kind of it was
kind of baking into the cake, you know. You know,
obviously nineteen forty eight May nineteen forty eight, when Israel
was found, that was sort of a force multiplier. And
also the fact that when America was founded, you know,
there was no official religion. There was the First Amendment,
and the first members really designed not just to establish
religious tolerance. It was there to kind of make make
sure a religion didn't get in the way of commerce.
But nevertheless, even then, like John Adams has said that
our constitution doesn't function outside the it doesn't function the
absence of a moral people. That's generally truecause no system
functions if the people are a moral there's no like
corporate guidelines or rules or laws or institutions and function.
You can have the best rules set up like our constitution.
If people who are in charge of from forcing her
living under our moral the system crumbles. Ever finding out
that out today, look look around you in modern you know,
in late twentieth century or twenty first century America is
you know, the country's morals have been eroded. Yeah, we
got cut off. I'm sorry. So basically Americas don't like
to face of they have to deal with the consequence
of their choices, right, That's what America is. The avoidance
of responsible That's very very American. Now now as America
becomes more effeminate, that's as it happens, not accountability, the
thirty yearld woman who's you know, uh uh have you
put off children until she's thirty eight? Now she has
to right to have the baby. She maybe having two
abortions under her belt or something. She doesn't be told
that that's a choice he made, that there was a
time for everything, there was a season, and you have
to respect that. You don't. But if you tell her
that you know, you're the ogre, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean people, the one thing that happens
when you get closer to like the end of empire
and the end of an age, is that the truth
is just not accepted anymore. Nobody wants to hear. There
are there are certain people who are starting to wake
up to, you know, the old truths, and they're like, huh,
maybe we need to start looking at those again. But
the majority of people don't want to hear truths. Thirty
eight year old woman doesn't want to hear truths, and
you know, normal people don't want to hear that. Elections
aren't going to fix this. They may give you time
and open up space so that you can try and
build what comes next in your little in your little
corner of the world, but you know, expecting that you're
going to elect somebody who is going to have the
kind of will to power to dismantle something that's been
going for one hundred years and pretty much doesn't need
a president or a Congress to operate. Well, good, good luck, yep.
Speaker 2: Where I was talked to some people at work today.
They were lamenting some of the you know, I guess
going ons at the White House the Trump administration, particularly
regarding Israel and Iran might be at war. And I go, yeah,
fun out in November, you thought you were voting for
the peace candidate, right, And this is the way it works,
he said. Then I regaled him with the night with
what happened in nineteen sixty four. I said, in nineteen
sixty four, Linda and Johnson was well the company he'd
become president because the candidate had in assassinated the year
before in November, and he was portrayed as the peace
candidate because his opponent, Barry Goldwater, he was a hard
right libertarian Republican, was known as a hawk. He was
a big cold warrior, and it was said that you know,
you know, if he's elected, will be at war. In course,
with the sixty four election, I did kind of remind
him these are younger guys. Is well. Sixty four election
was it was a landslide. Were on the historic landslides.
So it was up to nineteen thirty two and nineteen
seventy two really with Nixon and then FDR in nineteen
thirty two he got you know, sixty four sixty two
to sixty percent of the vote, you know, forty four
forty five states. Although the key in that election was
the South was no longer solid. The South went largely
Republican in that election was an indicator of things to come.
But anyway, Elynnon Johnson was portrayed as the peace candidate
and I told him there's a huge landslide. Lyndon Johnson
won and he was No one expected Goldwater to win
that sort of thing. And the joke after that the
following year was this, In nine sixty four, they told
me if I voted for Barry Goldwater, the nation would
be at war. And by gally, I voted for Barry
Goldwater and the nation was at war. You know, it
doesn't matter who you vote for because what was happening
behind the scenes was happening. And you know, Lynnon Johnson
really wasn't in control of it, neither was Barry Goldwater,
and so it would have happened. This technocracy or this
deep state of will was scheming and they were going
to get their war for whatever reason, which is much
disputed why they wanted that war and why it lasted
so long. But the point is, yeah, that's you know, Yeah,
it's one of these things where, yeah, the people never
get what they really want, even assuming they know what
they want when it comes to national politics, right, they
broadly want to avoid war, but they never War is
never popular, mass immigration is never popular. When it happens.
You know, why does it happen? It's never been popular,
but it just happens.
Speaker 1: You have an administrative state that does what it does,
and unless you go in there with the express intention
and will to do everything you can to dismantle it,
and you know, you may get the top of your
head blown off in the process. And I don't even
think they need to do that anymore. I think it's
so it's so far gone that it's like, eh, huh.
I mean, maybe they tried to. Maybe they tried to
take out Trump, you know, a couple of times. Maybe
that's what that was Butler Pennsylvania and what happened at
in Florida.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's maybe there's some factions that still think it
does matter he's present. Yeah, yeah, and you know, some
civic civic nationalist deep state operation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe someone really thought that he had the
wilds of power to come in there and uh and
change and and change everything. I never thought he could
change everything. I thought that there were some things he
could do. I mean, I think basically what we wanted
was the j Sex prisoners, and we wanted mass deportations,
and we got the JA. We got the j Sex prisoners.
Speaker 2: Even the like the so called great men of history
presidents that you know the US Franklin, Roosevelt, or and
Lincoln weren't in control or very easily lost control of
the situation. I think Lincoln, there's some speculation the assassination
of Lincoln was carried out largely because there are elements
that were that wanted to provoke both sides. You know,
they're basically the Rothchilds. The bankers wanted to provoke a
ward to split up the country then make money off
selling lending money to both sides. And Lincoln's greenback scheme, Uh,
undermined that and so by eighteen sixty five, okay, let's
uh work with elements within lincolnministration to assassinate them. That's
what you know with Stanton and Company, and that's what
all that intrigue was with John Wilkes Booth and Montreal,
Canada and the old network tying back to the British.
Very similar dynamics were surround the Kennedy assassination a century later,
actually evolving Montreal and banks and that sort of thing
Jewish banks in Europe. You know. That's why some people now,
you know, have kind of come to inclusion that the
the real cult which with that in the Ny assassination
was the were the Israelis and the Jews, uh, for
several reasons. But it's uh, even like these great but
my point is even these very consequential, influential presidents aren't
completely in control of the affairs. So to think that
modern presidents, you know, the last president really probably who
tried to like challenge anything, it was probably Richard Nixon,
and the system mobilized against him in a different way.
Didn't have to blow his head off. They just orchestrated
the water gatespiracy against them. No, and we were given
a false narrative about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the.
Speaker 2: Probably a slight improvement over how they got rid of Kennedy.
Speaker 1: But well, the interesting thing about Nixon was Nixon won
in a landslide in seventy two. But yeah, there was
no there didn't seem to be this overt move to
punish the American public for it, like there was. There
was still like there was in you know in twenty
after twenty twenty where it's like, you know, half of
this country is semi fascist. So yeah, we need to
do everything we can to crush them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and their definition of fascist, Like I always tell people,
before you start calling people names like this, they think
you're a fascist if if you don't, if you're not
cutting your son's dick off, they're that crazy. By the way,
it's oaritarian personality that's been implemented. And you know why
how was that? How did these egg these academic aheads
and philosophers have their policy implemented If it's just a book.
Speaker 1: Well, Tim, you and I are just a couple of
woke writers who are blaming all of our personal failures
on this one group that just wants to be left
alone and we're just jealous of their success.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. And if yeah, if you, if you notice
these things, it's because you're you're bitter, you're a loser,
you're jealous of their success, and you should receive you
should get psychiatic help perfectly from a Jewish psychiatrist.
Speaker 1: Well that's redundant, tim Tell everybody where they can find
your work.
Speaker 2: Oh our interesting times, Uh potomatic, I have a not Patreon.
They come off long ago. What's that other one stack? Substack? Yeah?
Just oh my, what's what named I use on substack?
Speaker 1: What is that? I haven't been there in a while.
Speaker 2: Substack substant Oh it's I have it as Timothy's newsletter. Anyway,
I haven't don I do get some donations. So yeah,
if you if you like what I have to say,
or don't like what I have to say but are
stimulated by it, you can always send me a few money,
a few dollars.
Speaker 1: I'll make sure to link to the substack and ends
to the automatic appreciate it.
Speaker 2: I used to get good so I used to get
pretty good amount of money monthly for like you from Patreon,
but then Patreon said I was a violation of community
standards or something I don't know so, but then then again,
I don't know why. I'm just I'm just a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1: You were talking about the Omish right, Yes, Doomage lobby,
the Amish Lobby came for you.
Speaker 2: They sleep, They secretly took over the country when everyone
else went to Wolds.
Speaker 1: Tim always a pleasure. Thank you, Take care, Pete
Speaker 2: H.