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Speaker 2: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jacobs aus
Speaker 2: got a guy riding with us today.
Speaker 3: I remember your name.
Speaker 2: You're the only one I forget. Let me ask you
Speaker 2: both what you guys want to do when you grew up.
Speaker 3: I want to give you a sports writer and you
Speaker 3: and then I did. And then it was like it
Speaker 3: was like, is that it?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No, no, I get it. I toltally you get it.
Speaker 3: You know it's funny because I wasn't one hundred percent sure.
Speaker 3: Do you remember when I was trying to decide on
Speaker 3: a major You sually want to go into law or somebody? Well,
Speaker 3: my brother was a lawyer, and I couldn't think of
Speaker 3: anything else.
Speaker 2: And were cops were the cops?
Speaker 3: I wasn't going to be a cop? Were they already cops? Yeah?
Speaker 3: There was no chance I was going to be a cop. Zero.
Speaker 3: You've tried that line, Yeah, zero. I saw those guys
Speaker 3: and it was making a mess of them. So I
Speaker 3: and they were really good cops. No they weren't retired, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: but yeah they are now. I wasn't going to do
Speaker 3: that though. Look I had I decided early on I
Speaker 3: wasn't going to take any job that required that I
Speaker 3: have a gun for me to have the opportunity to
Speaker 3: go home every day.
Speaker 2: So, okay, did it change? And living in your life?
Speaker 3: What happened was I really had no idea. So I,
Speaker 3: you know, talking to my brother Rick, the lawyer, you know,
Speaker 3: he said, well, if that's what you want to do,
Speaker 3: don't do what I did. Which what he did is
Speaker 3: he he had he was a political science major, so
Speaker 3: coming out of college, he either had to go to
Speaker 3: law school or he was going to be a teacher.
Speaker 3: He said, get it. Get a major that you can
Speaker 3: get a job with. And you know I like to
Speaker 3: write in high school, you know, I love my English classes.
Speaker 3: So I took journalism. Yeah, he said, don't don't be
Speaker 3: an English major, you know, journalist, be a bro journalist. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the journalism. And so I did, and probably my sophomore year,
Speaker 3: my first reporting class. The first day I said that's it.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to law school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, So I'll come back to that in a second.
Speaker 3: Riot baseball okay, okay.
Speaker 2: Wow you know so both you guys, both you guys
Speaker 2: have the same dream II this So what then then
Speaker 2: what the reality hit?
Speaker 3: And then what I turned sixteen? I was like, I
Speaker 3: want I want money, got a job, a.
Speaker 2: Job, and you're still working for a degree and all
Speaker 2: that stuff.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: The reason I say, you know what I should have
Speaker 2: been maybe we should have been a GM of a
Speaker 2: college football program, especially at Alabama. Well you know GM,
Speaker 2: have you in our time? We didn't hear no GM.
Speaker 2: It's like a recruiting coordinator director.
Speaker 3: That's what it should be, right or he said have
Speaker 3: a football or just the football program for the athletic
Speaker 3: park just to flip pop.
Speaker 2: So the new GM at Washington at at Alabama, Courtney Morgan,
Speaker 2: he went with the boor to to Alabama. He's gonna
Speaker 2: make eight hundred thousand dollars a year now, the most
Speaker 2: highly paid GM recruiting coordinator. And that's how we knew
Speaker 2: him back for the day personnel, right, that guy eight
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars a year to do that, Uh to
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 3: Didn't didn't you know the recruiting coordinator make you know,
Speaker 3: sixty thousand a year like two years ago pretty much.
Speaker 2: There's another guy. I think it was to Texas Tech.
Speaker 2: He made about four hundred thousand, and he was the
Speaker 2: highest one till then. Now they got the eight hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty five and he came from Washington blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: so he went with him there. Now Alabama's gonna payhim
Speaker 2: eight hundred and twenty five. I was misspokes to do that.
Speaker 3: Obviously.
Speaker 2: We know chase players, to chase to chase players, and
Speaker 2: we know how much we love recruiting.
Speaker 3: Right, you know I would do it for that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: of course, as much as I hated that, I would
Speaker 3: do it for that.
Speaker 2: And Alabama can afford it. They have the money up
Speaker 2: the wazoo, right. Uh, No, wonder schools are hurting for
Speaker 2: money they're paying these guys?
Speaker 3: What are they're exactly? Why do they think they need
Speaker 3: to pay him that much?
Speaker 2: Recruit That's how important the recruiting is. Eight and twenty
Speaker 2: five dollars.
Speaker 3: It's still pretty important if you're paying him two hundred
Speaker 3: thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Without question, without question. We've seen some guys in our time. God,
Speaker 2: who was the recruited was it? Bill Bullmorgan was not
Speaker 2: the recruiting guy back in the day, Pat Hill was not.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: We'd have to go back in the archives to see
Speaker 2: who they were.
Speaker 3: But uh, Rob Bianello is a recruiting coordinator, right right.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get him on too. I try to do
Speaker 2: that pair next week. But recently even the GM was
Speaker 2: like kind of the right hand man to someone. Whoever
Speaker 2: that guy was, and what the hell did he do?
Speaker 3: Well? That was the so is that is the GM?
Speaker 3: Now the director of operations?
Speaker 2: Well depends how you have them, because the direction.
Speaker 3: Of operations does more than recruiting. Well, this guy is
Speaker 3: just a recruiting guy. That's not. Well, I guess they're
Speaker 3: giving him a GM title, But to me, a GM
Speaker 3: is not somebody who just it's a general manager generally
Speaker 3: manages the program.
Speaker 2: And that was the guy. That was that guy for
Speaker 2: something right right? He was also is kind of his
Speaker 2: driver or whatever, and I didn't understand what the hell
Speaker 2: he was doing there outside of protecting something right, And okay,
Speaker 2: so how is he gonna do that? He kind of
Speaker 2: ran interference and then now they have a couple of guys.
Speaker 2: Jet had his guy. I think he's still around, the
Speaker 2: skinny guy the dark hair. And now there's another guy
Speaker 2: out there just kind of helping out.
Speaker 3: I don't get it. But do you really need these people?
Speaker 3: Well you can maybe you need those people because there's
Speaker 3: so much more to do. The bigger question, do you
Speaker 3: need to pay these people this much? Okay?
Speaker 2: And there was another guy and now he's gone, he
Speaker 2: went to Oregon.
Speaker 3: I'm happy. Well I'm calling up I'm calling up the
Speaker 3: football supports. Okay, yeah, okay. So we've got a chief
Speaker 3: of staff. Who is His name is Ben I think
Speaker 3: at theens or.
Speaker 4: Okay, so I think he's new. I think he's new. Okay,
Speaker 4: he's the chief of staff. But you also have a
Speaker 4: gentle manager. See what gays guys Crowley my point? Okay,
Speaker 4: So then you have a director of football operations. How
Speaker 4: come then assistant athletic director football operations.
Speaker 2: Okay, we didn't know about these jobs that were open.
Speaker 2: I couldn't applied he but you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: There's a long list right apparently.
Speaker 3: Director of player development okay, which I thought should be
Speaker 3: the general manager. But then a director of recruiting operations.
Speaker 3: Isn't that the director of player development my appoint? Then
Speaker 3: a director of scouting.
Speaker 2: My point, And maybe you should get Mike Flores in
Speaker 2: here one of these days, because he's back in our time.
Speaker 3: He was kind of all this stuff. Yeah, he became.
Speaker 3: He was a recruiting coordinated for a while.
Speaker 2: What were what were the nineteen eighties and nineties missing
Speaker 2: that these guys have now?
Speaker 3: I mean, was it all bad back that they were
Speaker 3: missing the transfer portal? They were missing nil, they were
Speaker 3: missing social media and the internet where where people could
Speaker 3: easily communicate with other people at other schools. And so
Speaker 3: go down the list of people, just your top four
Speaker 3: their titles? Uh uh okay, chief of staff.
Speaker 2: That wasn't there before.
Speaker 3: We didn't general manager, we didn't have that Director of
Speaker 3: football operation. We probably had that. It's maybe underwell, because
Speaker 3: you have a director of recruiting operation. That's what you had,
Speaker 3: is a director of recruiting operations or the recruiting coordinator. Okay,
Speaker 3: and then all right, director player development. Okay, what does
Speaker 3: that mean?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: It's four jobs. Director of scouting, I don't think that
Speaker 3: was it. That was the recruiting coordinator too. They were
Speaker 3: doing all the research on who was who and getting
Speaker 3: filmed and all. That was the one dude. So now
Speaker 3: you're looking at probably a million. It looks like there's
Speaker 3: four people, four people who did who are doing what
Speaker 3: the recruiting coordinators to do.
Speaker 2: Back in the day, Yeah, where's schools in trouble?
Speaker 3: Well? The director of football operations has an assistant director
Speaker 3: for football. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't want to brought that out, but I bought
Speaker 2: it because Bama was paying. There was eight hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty five dollars. Eight hundred and twenty five thousand dollars,
Speaker 2: I should say, which is crazy to me. Crazy to me,
Speaker 2: and a time when money is of the essence in
Speaker 2: this programs. Maybe not to Alabama because they have it coming,
Speaker 2: like I said, out of everywhere, but people like cars
Speaker 2: or programs like Arizona and otherwise.
Speaker 3: How do you find the money to do this? I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 2: I just found it kind of funny, kind of funny
Speaker 2: and sad at the same time, because back in the day,
Speaker 2: we didn't need that.
Speaker 3: Back in the day, we just needed what car to
Speaker 3: go to the grocery store. We didn't need three. I
Speaker 3: never understood that, like people have multiple cars. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: do this one for work and this one's for my A. Right,
Speaker 3: here's that one car. Yeah, you know, I want to
Speaker 3: travel waste now on gas and electric. I get it.
Speaker 3: But you're you're right? I mean, come on, how many
Speaker 3: times can you get in the car and go just
Speaker 3: one car? Yeah?
Speaker 2: All right, you understand what I'm saying, right, Jake, you understand.
Speaker 2: I mean that's kind of crazy. It's kind of crazy
Speaker 2: all these people. And I guess they justified it because
Speaker 2: they did it. They hired these people. But I could
Speaker 2: I just imagine asking desire this or even Dave Ikey
Speaker 2: or even Jim Lavingdon.
Speaker 3: Right, maybe next time.
Speaker 6: We do that.
Speaker 3: Is there really a need for this? I think it's
Speaker 3: one of those things where other people are doing it,
Speaker 3: so we gotta do it otherwise we're falling behind. Right,
Speaker 3: do you believe that? I know that's I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's well, if you're the recruiting, if
Speaker 3: you're let's say you're the you're the one guy doing
Speaker 3: all four of those jobs. And you see that Oregon
Speaker 3: has four guys doing that job, and Washington has four
Speaker 3: guys doing that job, and UCLA as four guys doing
Speaker 3: that job. Then you're thinking, wait a minute, what the
Speaker 3: hell am I doing? Right?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Doing them all the time. I'm gonna go do I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go somewhere where I can be one of those,
Speaker 3: one of four instead of one of one. Sure right, sure, sure, no,
Speaker 3: I'm sure.
Speaker 2: I'm sure at the FBC's or the smaller schools that's
Speaker 2: there is one guy because you can't afford to pay
Speaker 2: for people, right, or the smaller schools like the Colorado
Speaker 2: States or the New Mexicos or whatever, or you have
Speaker 2: these these limited funds. Even more so, I just don't
Speaker 2: understand it. Yeah, I just found it kind of strange,
Speaker 2: not strange, but kind of funny that they're paying these money,
Speaker 2: these types of money. A one hundred and twenty five
Speaker 2: thousand and under the three year contract to deal a
Speaker 2: deal the Boosters will put it into place for highest
Speaker 2: Paige front office figure. Unbelievable. That's a lot I should
Speaker 2: have become one of those guys.
Speaker 3: Is it too like to change careers? I think so
Speaker 3: I have an easier time of being a pro baseball player. Yeah,
Speaker 3: well take me a couple of years to really get shape.
Speaker 3: It need be the Mirac, there'd be a movie on you.
Speaker 3: But you know I'm you already going through the roster.
Speaker 3: I'm actually in the u of a salaries day. Okay, okay,
Speaker 3: but you know, hey, if they can pull it off,
Speaker 3: they can pull it.
Speaker 2: Off, and they needed to pull it off.
Speaker 3: I understand that. And it's a criticism. You can get it.
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't Yeah, this is not criticism, it's just stuff.
Speaker 2: The thought that I had because all these if one
Speaker 2: if monkeys see monkey do temping, kind of like you said, Well,
Speaker 2: these guys are doing it.
Speaker 3: Why can't we? How can we pull this off? And
Speaker 3: and here we are? Yeah, okay, now I'll keep I'll
Speaker 3: keep searching, I'll.
Speaker 2: Keep Okay, Well, welcome to the show. Today is what
Speaker 2: Monday and Tuesday, Wednesday, Tuesday. We have a pretty good show.
Speaker 3: Today.
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk to you of a volleyball coach. Tree
Speaker 2: of stuff, right, treet of Stubbs.
Speaker 3: I shall be going in. This is the four o'clock hour.
Speaker 3: They're getting ready to get their season started. It's her
Speaker 3: second year, coming off a year right eight and twenty
Speaker 3: three last year. Her first year is as the head coach.
Speaker 3: She was a longtime assistant under under Dave Rubio, So
Speaker 3: we'll kind of talk to her about, you know, I know,
Speaker 3: just what she's got, what she's got in store for
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, maybe some lessons she might have learned
Speaker 3: last year being in the in the main seat instead
Speaker 3: of on the sidelines. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: And then in the second hour we have mister Stewart,
Speaker 2: Is that.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Phillip Stewart, the head coach at Morana, head
Speaker 3: football coach at Marana. But also he's doing a thing
Speaker 3: this Thursday. Thursday, he's holding a media day at Morana
Speaker 3: for all the fall sports at Miranda, trying to generate
Speaker 3: some media attention, which is a great thing. It happens
Speaker 3: to be in the middle of our show, so we
Speaker 3: can't be a participant in that, but that's a cool
Speaker 3: thing that he's doing. Right well, I mean I want
Speaker 3: to ask him, you know, is this a learning experience
Speaker 3: for these athletes to learn how to, you know, speak
Speaker 3: to the media. You know, you got guys like you know,
Speaker 3: Javier and Andy Morales and some of those who work
Speaker 3: through all sports toose on stuff and go interview a
Speaker 3: lot of these kids after games and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Then you you know, get get comfortable with the new
Speaker 2: person at the Daily Star.
Speaker 3: Yeah, forgot to do. Yeah, they've got it. Yeah, they
Speaker 3: got a new person at the day at the Daily Star.
Speaker 3: So you know what one of those things. Okay, I
Speaker 3: just found what real quick? Lauren Bossler. Lauren, because you
Speaker 3: work at the University of Arizona, we get to see
Speaker 3: your salary. She is the director of football Operations. She
Speaker 3: is making seventy six and seventy five dollars a year.
Speaker 3: The chief of staff is not listed. So this is
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four uh fiscal your database. So he
Speaker 3: I don't know if you just started, or he wasn't
Speaker 3: in that database, or why why he's not in that database?
Speaker 3: I do not know, but there there's a one, so
Speaker 3: I you know, it's it's I almost hate, you know,
Speaker 3: jumping into these people's private stuff, but I guess it's
Speaker 3: not private fury. It's out there right right.
Speaker 2: No power power to them. Hey, if I got that job,
Speaker 2: but I had that job, I'm go ahead and criticize me.
Speaker 2: I don't care I have that job. But to me,
Speaker 2: it's it's like, Wow, do you really need all this stuff?
Speaker 2: You need someone to clean the floors and and the kitchen,
Speaker 2: and the and the and the bathrooms. I think you
Speaker 2: need four people. I do because I don't do it.
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying. It's like the car analogy.
Speaker 2: Just need one car, really, m you need a car,
Speaker 2: you need you need a truck, you need a convertible,
Speaker 2: you need a truck.
Speaker 3: That's my point.
Speaker 2: Now you're spending all this money for something that you
Speaker 2: kind of really don't need.
Speaker 3: I got, I got the truck. Just have friends.
Speaker 2: I need your truck. In fact, soon we'll talk. You
Speaker 2: gotta go, We gotta talk to mister Stewart.
Speaker 3: All right, let's let's get out of here. We're gonna
Speaker 3: come back. Philip Stewart, head football coach, and Moranta will
Speaker 3: be on the window.
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Speaker 1: the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports fourteen fifteen.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to Myning the Ball here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jickenszauz. Now on
Speaker 2: the phone, we have Philip Stewart, the head coach at
Speaker 2: Morana with the football program.
Speaker 3: Coach. How you doing, I'm doing all right?
Speaker 5: How about you?
Speaker 3: We're doing well? Thank you?
Speaker 2: Hey, We've had a few coaches here in the last week,
Speaker 2: or high school coaches talking about their program and what's
Speaker 2: up ahead, and to a man, they say, Morana is
Speaker 2: going to be a team to watch.
Speaker 3: How's that sound?
Speaker 5: Oh, hey, that's pretty good. You know, we've been doing
Speaker 5: a lot of work. So for teams to notice what
Speaker 5: we've been doing these fast years, you know that that
Speaker 5: goes out to my coaches, to my players, like the
Speaker 5: hardwork that didn't put in. So hey, that's exciting to hear.
Speaker 3: And not just coaches.
Speaker 2: Are you talking about a new g and uh the
Speaker 2: new guys cd O h Y McKee and the cell
Speaker 2: point guy or the former cell point guy, just dudes
Speaker 2: who know?
Speaker 5: Yeah that that so? Like I said, man, that's shout
Speaker 5: out to my coaches, staff, you know, my players, they've
Speaker 5: been working hard these faster years. Than for people to
Speaker 5: start to take notice. Man, you know, that's all I
Speaker 5: can ask for as a head coach, like, hey, we
Speaker 5: are putting in the work and people out there are
Speaker 5: seeing the work that we're doing is starting to show.
Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say, what, what what has been
Speaker 3: the key to that? Though? You say you're doing the work,
Speaker 3: but you know this is building a program, right, and
Speaker 3: that that's what you're doing over there. What do you
Speaker 3: think has been the thing that you've done best to
Speaker 3: build this program? Steve? Steve calls the secret sauce over there.
Speaker 5: So so I don't want to say it's a secret sauce.
Speaker 5: Is just I think first is you know, giving the
Speaker 5: guys a goal. Hey, what is all trying to do
Speaker 5: with this season? You know, I always knew with my
Speaker 5: seniors in May, hey what are you trying to do
Speaker 5: with this upcoming season? And once they tell me, like
Speaker 5: this senior class, this is my senior class. I happened
Speaker 5: since they were freshmen. And the first thing they said
Speaker 5: was we want to go in the stay titles. And
Speaker 5: I said, my job as a coach and the coaching
Speaker 5: staff is to get y'all ready for that. So they
Speaker 5: gave me the goal of what they want to reach.
Speaker 5: So I put it up in the work. We show
Speaker 5: up every day in the summer twice a day. I
Speaker 5: mean in the day, we show up twice a day.
Speaker 5: Taking care of business off the field, you know, being
Speaker 5: in classroom now that we're in school, you know, making
Speaker 5: sure we take great grade because all those little things
Speaker 5: are going to add up to what we're trying to do,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. And I think the biggest
Speaker 5: thing is giving them a goal for them that's reachable.
Speaker 5: And I think we've been able to reach those goals
Speaker 5: every year. And I think now as a senior class,
Speaker 5: we want to put it all together and be able
Speaker 5: to go chase the state titles. So like I said,
Speaker 5: it ain't no secret to it. We're working, We're putting
Speaker 5: in the work. We're showing up every day, twice a day,
Speaker 5: every day in the summer, you know. And then now
Speaker 5: that the school started, we're showing up the practice. We're
Speaker 5: doing the things in the classroom and doing the all
Speaker 5: the necessary off the field to get us ready for
Speaker 5: on the field.
Speaker 2: So four years ago, if these were freshmen and you
Speaker 2: had them, did you see the potential in them? You know?
Speaker 3: For three years later, four years later.
Speaker 5: So seeing them as freshmans as babies just crazy. Now
Speaker 5: I see them driving, I'm scared, you know, So, you know,
Speaker 5: seeing them all grown up. But with this freshman class,
Speaker 5: they have seen My first year went seven and three,
Speaker 5: you know, the second year we went ten and two,
Speaker 5: last year went five and five, So they've seen all
Speaker 5: the ups and downs. You know, they see, hey, we
Speaker 5: have to show up in the summer if we want
Speaker 5: to win in August. Hey we have to have leadership
Speaker 5: if we want to win games that are closed. They're
Speaker 5: seeing all these things year in the year out, and
Speaker 5: now that they're older, I think they're all ready to
Speaker 5: put together. I got eighteen seniors this year, so most
Speaker 5: of them have stuck around, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So they have seen all the ups and downs, the
Speaker 5: bumps and bruises. So I think this year is gonna
Speaker 5: be special due to the fact that a lot of
Speaker 5: them stuck around. They trusted the process. And now I'm
Speaker 5: starting to see that from my younger class and my juniors,
Speaker 5: my sophomores, and my new freshmen that came in. I
Speaker 5: have one hundred and what forty kids in the program.
Speaker 5: Due to the fact that they're seeing the success, they're
Speaker 5: seeing the process. We're not trying to skip any steps,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. We're not just trying to
Speaker 5: win one game. We're trying to, you know, chase the
Speaker 5: state championship, make the playoffs, right, So that's where the
Speaker 5: program is getting field. Because this senior class has stayed
Speaker 5: and showed people, Hey, if we just put in the words,
Speaker 5: it's gonna work for us, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So that's where I think it's been going on the
Speaker 5: last four years.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm looking at your schedule and you did
Speaker 3: this last year. You open with sell Point. You know
Speaker 3: arguably you know, the top or one of the top
Speaker 3: programs in the city. Are you doing that on purpose
Speaker 3: to keep your guys focused? I would say, you know
Speaker 3: in the off season and say, you know, we're not
Speaker 3: We're not sliding into the season. We're we're going all
Speaker 3: in game one. That is that on purpose or did
Speaker 3: you just kind of.
Speaker 5: It's always impurpose and everything we do we have a
Speaker 5: purpose to it. If we want to be the best,
Speaker 5: we have to beat the best. And they said a
Speaker 5: state title, And the only way you're gonna get to
Speaker 5: a state title, you're gonna have to go through those
Speaker 5: teams and seen it. So why not play them, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So we scheduled team like South Point,
Speaker 5: we scheduled team like Igaly, and you know, we battle
Speaker 5: them all the way to the end.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: Unfortunately we lost those two games, but our players seeing hey,
Speaker 5: we can play with anybody in the state. We just
Speaker 5: have to work at it. And like I said, it
Speaker 5: ain't no shortcuts. We're not skipping those steps. We're gonna
Speaker 5: keep working because we believe we can go out and
Speaker 5: win a state title. But we're gonna have to do
Speaker 5: it the right way. And it starts on August thirty
Speaker 5: versus Southwest And if we can get that win, we
Speaker 5: know we can compete with anybody else in the city.
Speaker 2: How is in four years and we know who Morano
Speaker 2: is right, just kind of north of Tucson and just
Speaker 2: right on the outskirts. How has this happened? I mean
Speaker 2: we saw last week we talked to the coach from
Speaker 2: Wilcox a little league girls, right, and how in the
Speaker 2: world did that happen?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: And they go to the World Series? Now, what's going
Speaker 2: on in Marana that's making this happen?
Speaker 5: Hey, shout out to Willcox. That's why I started my
Speaker 5: coaching career about that what they did, coaching McCumber, Patrick
Speaker 5: McCumber taking those girls and did what they did, like
Speaker 5: shout out to them. But here in Willcox it reminds
Speaker 5: me a lot of Willcox. I mean here in Miranda,
Speaker 5: it reminds me a lot of Willcox small towns, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. And I just think the players
Speaker 5: are seeing what the biggest thing is for people to
Speaker 5: see what we're doing, you know what I'm saying. We,
Speaker 5: like you said, we twenty minutes off the freeway, so
Speaker 5: a lot of people don't get to see what we're doing.
Speaker 5: The social media and all that, we're pushing what we're doing,
Speaker 5: and I think a lot of kids coming out of
Speaker 5: middle school it's like, wait, I live right here by
Speaker 5: Moround and they're doing all these good things, and we're
Speaker 5: starting to get a lot of these kids in the
Speaker 5: surrounding area to stay here, you know, and not drive
Speaker 5: thirty or forty because you know, most schools in southern
Speaker 5: Arizona's open enrollment, and not drive thirty forty minutes to
Speaker 5: go to South Point or go to Tucson High or
Speaker 5: driving way down across the city to go to all
Speaker 5: these other schools when we can go to a school
Speaker 5: right here. So a lot of that is getting it
Speaker 5: out of what they're doing over here as a program
Speaker 5: and getting a lot of these kids to stay locally
Speaker 5: around And I think that's what's helping us build the program.
Speaker 5: And the last is to my coaching. Man, the one
Speaker 5: thing I believe they're doing with these kids, they're coaching
Speaker 5: them again trying to just win one game, win two games.
Speaker 5: We're trying to build a program here, and you can't
Speaker 5: win it with just one or two players. You have
Speaker 5: to coach everyone, to build everybody up, because that's the
Speaker 5: only way it's going to I believe it's gonna work.
Speaker 3: It's a bit of a loaded question, but you obviously
Speaker 3: you know so I'm very enthusiastic, very fired up. How
Speaker 3: much of this is work and how much of this
Speaker 3: is fun?
Speaker 10: For you?
Speaker 5: All of it's fun. I don't even think I sleep
Speaker 5: that night. My coach is like, dude, you always up.
Speaker 5: I'm not because this doesn't tire me out. You know, man,
Speaker 5: I played football for a long time. But I'm saying
Speaker 5: half of my life I played football, and now I
Speaker 5: get to coach and I get to be able to
Speaker 5: be inspirational to a lot of these kids. So that's
Speaker 5: not hard work because I think this is what I'm
Speaker 5: supposed to be doing. So it doesn't wear me out.
Speaker 5: I know where is. My family are like, you're always
Speaker 5: doing this, You're always doing that. For the boys. I said,
Speaker 5: I know, but that's not it's not tiring me out.
Speaker 5: It's what I do. I get so a lot of them.
Speaker 5: To me, it's fun and being able to see these
Speaker 5: kids reach their goal, you know, go out and like coach,
Speaker 5: I want to get strong in the weight room and
Speaker 5: see them reach their goal in the weight room. Hey,
Speaker 5: I want to make all as reach their goal in
Speaker 5: the uh you know, in school. To me, that's it's
Speaker 5: all worth it, you know what I'm saying. So again,
Speaker 5: it's not work. I think this is this is a
Speaker 5: good time. This is all fun for me. I going
Speaker 5: out to tunnel with them. It brings back the memories
Speaker 5: when I was playing. So to me, it's all fun
Speaker 5: and games. That's why you always see me smiling and
Speaker 5: I'm always excited to get to talk about the tigers.
Speaker 5: So I'm always down to talk about it.
Speaker 3: Well wait a minute, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta
Speaker 3: call you out on this because I'm you know, looking
Speaker 3: for pictures for you for our social media that we
Speaker 3: posted that you look mean in all your pictures. You're
Speaker 3: not smiling. I don't know what you're saying about you
Speaker 3: smiling day like you look scary. You know you look
Speaker 3: you know who you remind me of having those pictures
Speaker 3: Calvin Fan and he was one of the meanest football
Speaker 3: players we ever ever passed through Tucson.
Speaker 5: Maybe it's the stern look, it's the Cowboys. I'm another
Speaker 5: nice guy. I don't. I don't one thing I pride
Speaker 5: myself on. I don't have to yell at the guys.
Speaker 5: I don't have to purse them out. I don't have
Speaker 5: to do any of that. I'm like the nice guy.
Speaker 5: I'm the one that's saving them from all the other
Speaker 5: coaches like I'm here, man, let me talk to you.
Speaker 5: I don't know what you mean. And the pictures maybe
Speaker 5: just the camera getting.
Speaker 3: The bad as well.
Speaker 2: The funny thing about it, good coaching programs have the
Speaker 2: good guy and the bad guy, or do you know
Speaker 2: you what I'm saying, the guy who brings the hammer
Speaker 2: and the other guys who kind of sues them. So
Speaker 2: you're the good guy, and that's I'm.
Speaker 5: The good guy. I threw there, I threwed it all over,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. But but when I do
Speaker 5: get stern with them sometimes I have to, and they
Speaker 5: know I mean business. You know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 5: like I said, I believe I played the I played
Speaker 5: the sport now out of ten. A lot of those
Speaker 5: kids are out there because they want to be out there,
Speaker 5: So why make it hard, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: The cutting them out and doing all that, they ain't
Speaker 5: doing nothing for him. So I try to love on them.
Speaker 5: I try to show them that, hey, I love you
Speaker 5: out here. Man, I'm trying to push you to be
Speaker 5: the best you are. And a lot of them they
Speaker 5: respond to it, you know what I'm saying. They come
Speaker 5: to me when a coach today is not today. Hey man,
Speaker 5: take a day off today Today it might not be today.
Speaker 5: Take today off, come back tomorrow. We'll try it again,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So I'm just here trying
Speaker 5: to love on them. And I think they respect that
Speaker 5: I respect them as a person, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And I think that that bond I have with my
Speaker 5: kids is the reason why they keep coming out every year.
Speaker 2: So let me go back to a question that we
Speaker 2: asked and I'm hoping, well, you may have answered it.
Speaker 2: So you're you're taking on South Point. You're going after
Speaker 2: the guys to show them how good they are. And
Speaker 2: you said, you know, in order to be the best,
Speaker 2: you have to beat the best, but sometimes that Backfirst
Speaker 2: you get to play the team and then you get
Speaker 2: beat or whatever. You're not afraid apparently you're not afraid
Speaker 2: of losing the kids right away. We talked about this
Speaker 2: with the Penn State ninety eight. Yeah, where Arizona was,
Speaker 2: you know, had reached the top and kind of felt
Speaker 2: like they were in the top four, top five. We're
Speaker 2: in the top four, top tip went to Penn State
Speaker 2: and got their ass kind of to them and that
Speaker 2: kind of just changed the trajectory of the season.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, what you do. And like, like you said,
Speaker 5: I don't think it a backfire to me as a
Speaker 5: teaching moment. Maybe we wasn't ready or what did we
Speaker 5: do you know that cost us to lose that game?
Speaker 5: Like last year we lost, and I think we lost
Speaker 5: the next three or four games and then boom it clicked.
Speaker 5: We went on a five game winn the Street still
Speaker 5: make the playoffs, you know what I'm saying. So it
Speaker 5: all depends on how you look at it. I looked
Speaker 5: at as a teaching moment, what were the things that
Speaker 5: we did right? A lot of the reason why we
Speaker 5: lost that game last year. It wasn't what they were doing,
Speaker 5: it was what we were doing to ourselves. You know,
Speaker 5: the pymanties to self inflicted wounds. That's not going to
Speaker 5: help you be a good team, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Or doing your own thing out there, that's not going
Speaker 5: to help us be the good team. You know, when
Speaker 5: you want to be a good team, you got to
Speaker 5: be structure. You got to be sound defensively and offensively.
Speaker 5: And I'm trying. I believe that me and the coaching
Speaker 5: staff were coaching our guys to be that way. So
Speaker 5: you can't say it backfire, But I don't look at
Speaker 5: his backflie. I think it was a teach moment and
Speaker 5: I think we learned from it this offseason, and I
Speaker 5: think we were ready this year to show the world
Speaker 5: that dang Miranda is pretty good, you know, saying so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, good for You're talking to Philip Stewart, head football
Speaker 3: coach at Miranda High School. So you are the football coach,
Speaker 3: but uh, we see you're doing a media day for
Speaker 3: all of your all of your fall sports at Miranda.
Speaker 3: Tell us a little bit about you know where that came,
Speaker 3: about why you're doing that and what you expect to
Speaker 3: get out of it, if any man anything.
Speaker 5: So for me me, I don't ever just think about
Speaker 5: my football players. I'm the te coach here. I also
Speaker 5: coached track here, so I work with a lot of
Speaker 5: different athletes daily. And my my me as a a
Speaker 5: person is we have a lot of good athletes here
Speaker 5: at Miranda, and I believe putting them on that pedal stool,
Speaker 5: like come having guys come out for the media day
Speaker 5: to interview all these different athletes that we have here,
Speaker 5: it's not only good for their sport, but it's good
Speaker 5: for them, you know what I'm saying. Like you wouldn't
Speaker 5: even know that we have a top five swimmer in
Speaker 5: the state, or top five golf player or top five
Speaker 5: you know, cross country like team. Like people wouldn't even
Speaker 5: know that because football overshadows a lot of it. So
Speaker 5: me going into it, I'm like, how about we do
Speaker 5: this for all the sports? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Let's let everybody be on top. Let everybody be the
Speaker 5: face of the Miranda, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 5: that's kind of how I look at it. And even
Speaker 5: the football players, like, hey invite the flag, football girls
Speaker 5: and you know they always trying to include everybody, because
Speaker 5: that's the one thing I always do. I don't ever
Speaker 5: let nobody not include somebody. I'm all about the inclusion.
Speaker 5: So I think the football players just rubbing off on them, like, hey,
Speaker 5: let's include everybody for our media day and make it
Speaker 5: a big Morana thing, you know what I'm saying. Eventually,
Speaker 5: I'm hoping it grows that big. But like I said,
Speaker 5: I can only do so much. And I got a
Speaker 5: few people that's gonna come out on Thursday and do
Speaker 5: the media day. And I have a few coaches that's
Speaker 5: going to send a few players to try to put
Speaker 5: their players voice out there, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: hopefully draw bigger crowds to their games or to their sports. So,
Speaker 5: like I said, we all work together here, and I
Speaker 5: trained all these different athletes here, so why not want
Speaker 5: all let him to be a part of this.
Speaker 3: All you have to do is give him that look
Speaker 3: and say come and.
Speaker 5: Give it in the class. Now they think I'm hard
Speaker 5: on them. My boys think I'm so easy on all
Speaker 5: the other players. So I'm hard on all of them.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you. I could be wrong.
Speaker 2: You have somebody going big time to the Division one.
Speaker 2: Did someone commit for your program?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Dednel Roebuck right now is committed to the
Speaker 5: University of Washington. You know, I still don't believe a
Speaker 5: lot of people understand how big that is, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. I think they just launt just another
Speaker 5: offer because he has a few of them, but then
Speaker 5: offered to one of those P five schools. It's huge,
Speaker 5: and I don't think a lot of people really understand that,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Me growing up in Texas,
Speaker 5: you know, having those offers like that, it was like
Speaker 5: it's huge, Like you send to go get your school
Speaker 5: paid for, You're you're putting yourself in a rim with
Speaker 5: other players that you know what I'm saying. To be honest,
Speaker 5: I don't even think the people out of school understand
Speaker 5: what's happening right now. They're walking with a guy that
Speaker 5: can potentially go play in the NFL, and they're looking
Speaker 5: at him every single day, speaking and talking to him
Speaker 5: every single day, and I don't even think they know
Speaker 5: this guy is gonna be one of those guys one day.
Speaker 3: Awesome, that's that's terrific, But it's.
Speaker 5: Very oftome and I tell him all the time, like, hey, dude,
Speaker 5: it's not a lot of people that gets this. It's
Speaker 5: not something that happens every day for people. Because I said,
Speaker 5: if you think about it, it's almost for twenty five
Speaker 5: hundred kids here, and we got one guy going to
Speaker 5: the University of Washington. That's how hard it is. You
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like, that's how rare it is, right,
Speaker 5: And like I said, I don't think a lot of
Speaker 5: people really understand how rare that is for him to
Speaker 5: have that. So I always tell him to like, hey,
Speaker 5: keep working, because you're going to be one of them
Speaker 5: guys that we look back, like, hey, I went to
Speaker 5: school with him, right, Like I used to coach that guy.
Speaker 5: He's going to get dressed in their.
Speaker 2: One of those guys we'll coach who appreciate your time,
Speaker 2: good luck. We'll keep an eye on you.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 3: I appreciated all for having me man smile, smile with those.
Speaker 5: Lee and we appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Thank you appreciate I appreciate it. Okay, we got to
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Speaker 3: That was a lot of fun. Stewart was a good guay.
Speaker 3: He sounds a good guy again, he looked mean in
Speaker 3: those he doesn't there's even do they even have the
Speaker 3: coaching staff on the website. Everyone was like arms crossed,
Speaker 3: you know, uh, not frowning, but just stern looking.
Speaker 2: Jay Jay, this is football, the same backgammon. There was
Speaker 2: a fight, Yeah, there was a There was a fight
Speaker 2: this weekend. Fantastic fight Saturday night on ESPN, uh and
Speaker 2: UFC two and somewhere else, uh that I saw and
Speaker 2: it was. It went twelve rounds. It was a brutal one.
Speaker 2: It was fun to watch. I'm sure one dude didn't
Speaker 2: have his his left hand. He hurt his left hand
Speaker 2: like in the fifth round, so he's slugging with one hand.
Speaker 2: And one of the great lines from that fight at
Speaker 2: the end was you don't play boxing. You don't play boxing.
Speaker 2: You don't play boxing. Right, this is a job, man,
Speaker 2: And if you're getting your ask kick there, you're kicking
Speaker 2: somebody else's ask. That's what you're paid to do. You
Speaker 2: don't play boxing. What a fantastic line.
Speaker 3: That is kind of funny. You know, I stopped boxing,
Speaker 3: so I don't really you know, pay much attention you know,
Speaker 3: I was again one of those guys who loved the Heyday.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, well it was great. And I think
Speaker 3: the last time I really watched a lot of boxing
Speaker 3: was as far back as when you know, Marvin Hagler's
Speaker 3: Sugar Ras and that's been a while. Tommy, hearns all
Speaker 3: those guys.
Speaker 2: I run into certain things. So I told you about
Speaker 2: all the Tyson thing, right to take a look at that.
Speaker 2: For that, I'm trying to get one of the documentary
Speaker 2: guys on the show. He went to New Mexico State.
Speaker 2: He's in New York down. Uh. He was at New
Speaker 2: Mexicoated about six years before I was, So I'm trying
Speaker 2: to get him on.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then they had the Muhammad Ali PBS Muhammad Ali
Speaker 2: kind of feature, which was fantastic too. There were certain
Speaker 2: things that I followed him forever, just about him and
Speaker 2: his his life and you know, the Parkinson stuff, and
Speaker 2: it was just what a fascinating man. Just obviously I'm
Speaker 2: telling you stuff you already.
Speaker 3: Know, right, love him or hate him, he was interesting.
Speaker 2: Interesting, yeah, to the very end. Yeah, you know, he
Speaker 2: became a humanitarian at the end, and he probably shouldn't
Speaker 2: have fought maybe half a dozen times after he was done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he did. Yeah, you know, the only time
Speaker 3: I saw him in person was unfortunately when you know,
Speaker 3: he was already not doing well. And Louisville was that
Speaker 3: base regional, No a.
Speaker 2: Regional that I well, there was there were they were here,
Speaker 2: they were here.
Speaker 3: Yeah baseball. He but at a basketball regional, either regional
Speaker 3: or first and second round, and he was there and
Speaker 3: I saw him.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, well he was here for baseball maybe twelve
Speaker 2: years ten years ago.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah.
Speaker 2: So if you have a chance for to watch those,
Speaker 2: the Tyson stuff was fantastic. Obviously become a really Tyson interesting,
Speaker 2: kind of a fun guy.
Speaker 3: Tyson. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Have you have you listened to his podcast now, which
Speaker 2: you would never believe this is would be a great thing.
Speaker 2: It's pretty damn good. Yeah, because he's he's he's a
Speaker 2: philosophy guy. But you think, what did he just say?
Speaker 2: And it's kind of smart, you know, smart stuff. And
Speaker 2: then then he gets into the fights with Jake Paul.
Speaker 2: That should be fun. That should be fun. And he's
Speaker 2: sixty one sixty sixty one. Uh. Del Hoya was on
Speaker 2: a podcast too. He says he's got to be careful.
Speaker 2: He's got to be careful, Jake Paul. It means something
Speaker 2: to Jake Paul and Tyson not so much, right, So
Speaker 2: he's got to be and but you but he's still
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson. Yes, you don't know who's gonna show up?
Speaker 3: Wait yeah, wait, yeah, I still don't want to get
Speaker 3: hit by you. No, nor no, I still don't want
Speaker 3: to get hit by him. We shifted, Okay, I still
Speaker 3: don't want to get hit by him. He's fifty eight he.
Speaker 2: I guess he said he was sixty, So sixty one,
Speaker 2: and Jake Paul's like twenty eighties ninething like that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's there than me. Yeah all right, yeah
Speaker 3: now and you know, good interesting stuff. Hey were you doing?
Speaker 3: We're you gonna do this?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 3: Final for economic impact stuff for Phoenix is Phoenix? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I feel like we okay, we're gonna take it away
Speaker 3: from you. Jack mcgrudy reporting for Forbes. We all know
Speaker 3: he writes for the Forbes of sports money. Final four
Speaker 3: generated a four hundred and twenty nine million dollar economic
Speaker 3: impact for not just Phoenix, but the state of Arizona,
Speaker 3: according to a study done by an Asu. An ASU
Speaker 3: study ye in the Sidemen Research Institute at ASU. It
Speaker 3: was four hundred twenty nine million dollars, which was more
Speaker 3: than one hundred million dollars more than what the twenty
Speaker 3: seventeen Final Four, which had an impact of three hundred
Speaker 3: and twenty four million. It's when it was held here,
Speaker 3: So what.
Speaker 2: Well in today's dollars too. I mean you you were
Speaker 2: able to see it differently than I saw it. And
Speaker 2: I say that because I stayed in the Glendale area
Speaker 2: for four day whatever it was, and you know how
Speaker 2: much I didn't like. I don't like the separation right
Speaker 2: with the fund down there downtown and the games over here.
Speaker 2: For the game is you were able to you had
Speaker 2: a place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we stayed out and uh yeah, and uh you know,
Speaker 3: went into Temp a couple of times for dinner and stuff.
Speaker 3: And the place was it was hopping.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: Now we didn't go into any of the Final four events,
Speaker 3: but the place was you know, the whole place was hopping.
Speaker 3: You know. We went to a sports bar and watched, uh,
Speaker 3: the the Iowa women's women's game. The place was jammed.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 3: It took us, I mean it took us forty five
Speaker 3: minutes to get a to get a table, and then uh,
Speaker 3: it was it was and then it took service was
Speaker 3: slow because it was so damn busy. Right, well, they
Speaker 3: were busy as hell.
Speaker 2: And my kind of point was too is because the
Speaker 2: distance it took you almost an hour to get across town.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, sometimes to get to the game, to get
Speaker 3: to the games, we would hit we were we were
Speaker 3: staying not far from the airport, really north of the airport.
Speaker 3: We got on the when we hit the freeway, when
Speaker 3: we got on the on the ten. It was slow
Speaker 3: from there all the way out to all the way
Speaker 3: out to the freeway and coming back.
Speaker 2: But no, and and people came perdue. Yeah, Purdue came
Speaker 2: in droves, obviously, Yukon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they said the championship game had the attendance
Speaker 3: of seventy four the third largest ever in the final four.
Speaker 2: Which were the first two was the first one in Phoenix.
Speaker 2: Because man, we have decent seats, but even you had
Speaker 2: good seats.
Speaker 3: Obviously I had these. I had pretty good seats at
Speaker 3: this one.
Speaker 2: And my and my first two there at Phoenix. We're
Speaker 2: away from the you know court and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: That's too many people, Yeah, just too many people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the combined combined attendance for the two
Speaker 3: days was one.
Speaker 2: So there was more for the semi final. So it
Speaker 2: had to be win No. Seventy five yea seventy five
Speaker 2: plus seventy fours. Crazy, well, because you had all four teams. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you had four teams that were there having fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fun. It was fun.
Speaker 2: I just wish they all play it in Glendale. And
Speaker 2: I don't see why they couldn't have.
Speaker 3: All everything in Glendale. Well I know, I mean, I
Speaker 3: guess Glendale has a convention center. I just don't know
Speaker 3: it's big enough to handle.
Speaker 2: And there has the football field as a football field
Speaker 2: right there, they can have put everything in there, tail
Speaker 2: gates and all that, right, yeah, right, Well we talked
Speaker 2: about that with with our girl Jamie Jamie J Jay
Speaker 2: J Perry, Yah J Perry.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was my big complaint to her and
Speaker 2: to uh Bagnano and yeah, but that was beyond her
Speaker 2: control obviously. Yeah, but you all want to stay centralized
Speaker 2: New Orleans, San Antonio, Indianapolis. Everything was downtown and everything's fun.
Speaker 3: Here's a here's an interesting thing that so the the
Speaker 3: one in Houston you have before twenty twenty three, there
Speaker 3: was not there was not blown economic impact study, but
Speaker 3: it was estimated that the economic impact in Houston was
Speaker 3: two hundred and seventy millions. Yes, compared to the four
Speaker 3: twenty four, twenty four for twenty nine.
Speaker 2: I think the site means something too. You know, Phoenix
Speaker 2: people go in March. Yeah, it's not hot, it's nice. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Scott stals around the corner. It was.
Speaker 3: You know, it was beautiful the whole the whole week
Speaker 3: in there. You know that the Monday of the game,
Speaker 3: my son and I went golfing that morning at a
Speaker 3: great time. It was good. It was very cool and
Speaker 3: so yeah, you know, we did a lot of stuff there.
Speaker 3: It was It was a fun weekend, you know, the
Speaker 3: first time, the first Final four that that I worked
Speaker 3: up there. We came home every day. We just had
Speaker 3: stuff going on. We didn't you know, we didn't stay,
Speaker 3: but we decided we wanted to take it all in,
Speaker 3: got a hotel room and stayed in the area, and
Speaker 3: it was it was way more fun. We had a
Speaker 3: great time doing it. I know when they'll do it again, but.
Speaker 2: Probably another five years because they're realizing exactly the numbers
Speaker 2: right when you're making four to fifty four sixteen.
Speaker 3: It was they said again in the story says whatever
Speaker 3: this means, right, two hundred and fifty six x point
Speaker 3: nine millions dollars over the three days was added to
Speaker 3: Arizona's gross domestic product.
Speaker 2: I never remember stuff like this. And did he compare
Speaker 2: it it all to the Super Bowl?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: No, because those are obviously big dumbers. But remember super
Speaker 3: Bowl is one day. I know it's a week of stuff,
Speaker 3: but it's one game. You know, there's people who come
Speaker 3: in get out, right. You see the you see the
Speaker 3: uh the uh private planes park that uh you know
Speaker 3: fly in on you know sometimes on game day, fly in,
Speaker 3: go to the game, flyout.
Speaker 2: So you're a gambling man. We get six minutes here
Speaker 2: and anybody want to call Please do to my question?
Speaker 3: You think I am right? Would I say? You're not
Speaker 3: like addicted to it?
Speaker 1: You to.
Speaker 3: You're not too?
Speaker 2: If someone kidnapped Jay and brings us in, here's so,
Speaker 2: here's here's your gamble. Uh. If I gave you five
Speaker 2: to one that Arizona five to one, Arizona's gonna make
Speaker 2: the Final four the next five years?
Speaker 3: Would you take to take that? I think it's gonna
Speaker 3: would absolutely, Okay, I think I think my, yeah, I
Speaker 3: think my I think I take that you won't give.
Speaker 10: Me that.
Speaker 2: I possibly could. I'm just saying this because you pick
Speaker 2: that up from somewhere. No, no, no, no, because because
Speaker 2: we're talking about the final four. It's been a long
Speaker 2: time since, and we know how difficult it is. You
Speaker 2: gotta be lucky, you gotta be healthy, you gotta be good,
Speaker 2: all that stuff, and it just hasn't happened for whatever reason.
Speaker 2: You can go back and dissect every game the last
Speaker 2: five ten years.
Speaker 3: Just gotta get hot, Steve, teams get hot. I mean
Speaker 3: who you said?
Speaker 2: Just?
Speaker 3: I mean, who would have thought San Diego State was
Speaker 3: gonna get to a championship game two years ago? And
Speaker 3: they did? True? It just there's just an episode players,
Speaker 3: I know. But a lot of things have to fall
Speaker 3: into place, you know that, and they fall into place
Speaker 3: for someone. Right And now, last year, yes, arguably the
Speaker 3: best team won the championship, right, But did you think
Speaker 3: that the year before when Yukon won it? Yeah, and
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know that you did. I don't
Speaker 3: know that you thought Yukon's the team going in Well
Speaker 3: them in Houston, Houston. So it's it. You know, you
Speaker 3: gotta be good, which Arizona has been. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 3: but then all the things, all the things have to
Speaker 3: fall into place. You got to not have an off
Speaker 3: shooting night by your shooting guard, you know, to to
Speaker 3: to keep winning games and those kinds of things. You know,
Speaker 3: so it and look, you know you didn't think Arizona
Speaker 3: was gonna win it a ninety seven. You know, they
Speaker 3: had first round loss written all over them, and they
Speaker 3: had first and then they and then they almost had
Speaker 3: the first round loss then won damn.
Speaker 2: So what would you take if I give you five
Speaker 2: to one?
Speaker 3: You wouldn't take three to one? Probably not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not enough. Yeah, I think it's maybe four
Speaker 2: to one, five to one, five years.
Speaker 3: And five years, Yeah, I think I I yeah, I
Speaker 3: would be I'd I'd be willing to bet the time
Speaker 3: it can get a Final four in the next five
Speaker 3: years because he's what he's what he's established Steve, is
Speaker 3: that he's gonna have good players every year. Yeah, right now,
Speaker 3: the question is does it all come together.
Speaker 2: Well, he's always gonna have anchest chance, always gonna have
Speaker 2: that bunch of chance. And it's funny because last year,
Speaker 2: after after remember he talked to Ball, he talked about
Speaker 2: bollowing what he meant to him, and he was like
Speaker 2: raising his son. He was important to remember that. It
Speaker 2: was a great press conference. I was walking out with
Speaker 2: him with Nate and I said, you know what, you're
Speaker 2: a smart man. I said, you're a smart man. Tommy
Speaker 2: kind of joking with it because he was. He was
Speaker 2: being a dad, pretty much being a dad, and he says,
Speaker 2: you know what, Steve, We're gonna break through this one
Speaker 2: of these days.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think he thought it was gonna happen this year, right,
Speaker 2: And it didn't happen obviously, but but I think so too.
Speaker 2: Over time, it's going to take some patience.
Speaker 3: Right, and again, you know the way teams changed now too.
Speaker 3: You can, as you've said, you can get lightning in
Speaker 3: a bottle, you know, for one year because you got
Speaker 3: the right guys from the portal, you got the right
Speaker 3: guys who stayed.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: I as at my breakfast club this morning and there's
Speaker 3: a guy in the club who played basketball in Indiana,
Speaker 3: so he's a big Indiana fan. But he's a big
Speaker 3: u of a fan too. We were talking about doing
Speaker 3: more Bollo and whether or not he fits with, well,
Speaker 3: just just get ready to you know, to grip the
Speaker 3: anytime Bala goes to the free throw line. Right, That's
Speaker 3: not really what I said, but you know what they
Speaker 3: probably said. But you know, and then we got to talk.
Speaker 3: He goes, do you think you know? He asked me,
Speaker 3: are you happy Caleb Love is back? And I said,
Speaker 3: you know, And I sat there and I thought, I said,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm about fifty to fifty on that, because
Speaker 3: how can you not be welcome back to Pack twelve
Speaker 3: Players of the Year. But on the other hand, we
Speaker 3: think about how he finished last year. You know, is
Speaker 3: that Caleb Love gonna come out this year again? Right? Sure?
Speaker 3: But it gets back to the things of all the
Speaker 3: things that have to come together. If Caleb Love doesn't
Speaker 3: shoot as poorly as he did over the last few games,
Speaker 3: five or six games of the season, maybe they win
Speaker 3: a national championship. And so if that doesn't happen this year,
Speaker 3: maybe they do win a national championship. I'm not putting
Speaker 3: it all on him, I'm saying, but you know, all
Speaker 3: those things have to come together, and when they do,
Speaker 3: and you've got the talent to win a national championship,
Speaker 3: then you'll win one. But if they don't, you know,
Speaker 3: it hasn't been coming together for Duke, It hasn't been
Speaker 3: coming together for Michigan State. It hasn't been coming together
Speaker 3: for all these programs. You know, it came together twice
Speaker 3: for Yukon.
Speaker 2: I do think that your fifty to fifty is about
Speaker 2: consistent with the regular general public. Yeah, I believe, because
Speaker 2: he's polarizing. Yeah, he very and that's about fifty to fifty.
Speaker 3: There are people who feel that the way he played
Speaker 3: at the tail end of the season kind of let
Speaker 3: everybody down. And I'm sure he feels bad about letting
Speaker 3: everybody down. It wasn't like he was trying to play bad,
Speaker 3: he just didn't. He went into a slum.
Speaker 2: I do think that because he was told he couldn't
Speaker 2: make it in the NBA this year and maybe done,
Speaker 2: he's got some incentive to be better, right, and not
Speaker 2: better by what he shows, but overall better, right, you know,
Speaker 2: blore games and pru more game exactly because we know
Speaker 2: he can score. Right now, it's maybe score more efficient.
Speaker 2: What else can you get everybody else involved? Because there's
Speaker 2: there's gotta be more to his game, right, That isn't.
Speaker 3: Right he's shown that he's not a good enough shooter
Speaker 3: just just to be like, to be able to be
Speaker 3: able to get in the nbaker. You can improve his
Speaker 3: shooting a little bit, but he's got to be able
Speaker 3: to do other things. He's got to create more and
Speaker 3: better shots. Right, He's got to get open. He's gotta
Speaker 3: he's got to create a little bit.
Speaker 2: And become more of an a sist guy. If I
Speaker 2: see this guy open.
Speaker 3: Right, and guess who has to do that too.
Speaker 10: I know.
Speaker 3: He laughed at that question about because he goes downhill exactly. Okay,
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