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<v Speaker 1>Books are gay. Don't you know the Supreme Court might

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<v Speaker 1>say books are gay? Don't you know, Helen, don't you

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<v Speaker 1>know the books are gay? Helen reading is gay?

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone? Well, according to a group of mine, kid ain't

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<v Speaker 2>going to be no home. Sexual parents who took the

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<v Speaker 2>issue with diverse education being shared in classrooms took their

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<v Speaker 2>hatred all the way to the Supreme Court. Now, mind you,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't want to ban books. They just want their

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<v Speaker 2>children to know that queer people exists, and we're preferred.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want people to know queer people. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want their children to know that queer people exists.

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<v Speaker 2>And we prefer if their child could just opt out

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<v Speaker 2>a storytime where teachers may read a book about you

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<v Speaker 2>gay Penglands, raising a baby chick, or whatever which happens.

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<v Speaker 2>So tell the streets, because really that's how we get you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the moral outcry against diversity. The fact that the

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court is willing to hear this case should have

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<v Speaker 2>us all worried when it comes to teaching kindness and

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<v Speaker 2>differences to our youth is being overshadowed by parental rights

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<v Speaker 2>and religion affecting public education. This article is the named

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court takes a parent's bid to opt out of

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<v Speaker 2>LGBTQ content elementary schools. This is written This comes from

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<v Speaker 2>NBC News, written by Lawrence Harley and Jering, seventeenth, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five. Phoebe, I'm sure you've got opinions.

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<v Speaker 1>I have many opinions. I have gay opinion, I have

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<v Speaker 1>not so gay opinions. I have gay books, I have

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<v Speaker 1>not so gay books. I have books by dictators, I

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<v Speaker 1>have books by anarchists, I have books by communists, I

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<v Speaker 1>have books by fascists. I have books on objectivism. And

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<v Speaker 1>I have books written by friends of mine which are

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<v Speaker 1>all about trans people and trans kids and transparents. And

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<v Speaker 1>my goodness, if the states like these people want us

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<v Speaker 1>to do saw my book collection, lock them down with

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<v Speaker 1>a feather, is all I can say. But this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>what we're really getting at here. What's being missed here

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<v Speaker 1>is the groups that are undertaking this are minorities in

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<v Speaker 1>and of themselves in a world where minorities are not

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<v Speaker 1>the most liked at the moment, shall we say so,

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<v Speaker 1>they have decided that they're going to knock on the

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<v Speaker 1>door of let's be discriminatory. Little do they know that

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<v Speaker 1>this quote religious freedom mark is going to come back

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<v Speaker 1>to buy them when I don't know. The religious freedom says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't really like you either, so you'll be next.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is where the wholes streams starts. You may

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<v Speaker 1>dislike the person who married the person that you dislike,

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<v Speaker 1>but that doesn't mean you get to interfere and say

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<v Speaker 1>that your children get to grab ignorant because that ignorance

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<v Speaker 1>will allow the ignorance against you to come back and

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<v Speaker 1>allow your ignorance. Now children, because of your ignorance and

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<v Speaker 1>your creation of the ignorant children to get them discriminated against,

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<v Speaker 1>you discriminated against. And what we should be doing is

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<v Speaker 1>the exact opposite. The groups that have decided to take

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<v Speaker 1>this up are minority groups, Muslim groups, Eastern Orthodox Christians.

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<v Speaker 1>These are not those kinds of people that you should

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<v Speaker 1>be going, oh, yes, let's go and have these groups

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<v Speaker 1>pander to us, because these kinds of individuals are not

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<v Speaker 1>the most open minded. But little do they know that

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<v Speaker 1>there are even less open minded people out there. They

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<v Speaker 1>will happily throw them under the bus to ara.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, apparently it's it violates your religious freedom. Now if

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<v Speaker 3>somebody else is different than you who knew. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>apparently just gay people existing violates other people's religious religious freedoms.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm sorry, it violates my freedom of expression that

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<v Speaker 1>these religious people exist. Now you see, it's my freedom

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<v Speaker 1>of expression that there's now being violated upon you see.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean exactly is this is the whole problem with

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<v Speaker 3>their argument is just because something exists that you don't

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<v Speaker 3>agree with doesn't mean you just you get to pretend

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<v Speaker 3>that it doesn't exist. It exists. And I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>understand that the country is changing. I know it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>feel like it, but the country is becoming more secular.

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<v Speaker 3>The country is becoming less religious. Poll Off for Pole

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<v Speaker 3>is demonstrating that, and I can And so when that

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<v Speaker 3>is happening around you, and you continue to be a

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<v Speaker 3>religious person and you see the country around you getting

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<v Speaker 3>less religious, that can be scary, right, that can be

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<v Speaker 3>scary when every when the people around you stop behaving

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<v Speaker 3>this the way that they used to, that they start

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<v Speaker 3>that they believe different things that you believe. It may

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<v Speaker 3>seem like you're going to you're going to be the

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<v Speaker 3>loser in this, in this war or or they consider

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<v Speaker 3>to be a war. But the fact is that there's

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<v Speaker 3>not going to be a loser here. That the what

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<v Speaker 3>these people are fighting against is what they should be champion.

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<v Speaker 3>They should be looking for more inclusion because as fewer

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<v Speaker 3>and fewer people become religious, they're going to become the minority.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, what is the twenty five tea, your twenty sixties.

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<v Speaker 3>Christians will be minority in the in the United States

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<v Speaker 3>based on current statistics, and so they need to get

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<v Speaker 3>instead of uh, trying to fight against other minorities, they

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<v Speaker 3>should they should really be trying to strengthen minority protections.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the next question. What does it matter? What

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<v Speaker 1>does it matter?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so my problem, okay, like this is if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to have your kid opt out of fucking story time?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, my.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing is, though, like these does have extane circumstances,

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<v Speaker 2>because like if you know, uh, if a teacher is

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<v Speaker 2>going to read a book about you know, like Marlon Bundo,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, about a gay buddy living in the White House,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, which just says that there's a gay buddy,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, it's just a children's story. And then

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<v Speaker 2>little Timmy whose parents are like, I don't want I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want my kid to know the gay people exists.

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<v Speaker 2>He has to lead a classroom. Everybody's going to know

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<v Speaker 2>and that cads like look at the big look look

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<v Speaker 2>at the kid going to be raised a big So

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<v Speaker 2>it also singles out these kids too. And we all

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<v Speaker 2>we were all children once and we and your social

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<v Speaker 2>group and being teased and ostracized in any way it

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<v Speaker 2>empowers the group to recognize that you are the outsider

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<v Speaker 2>and also too's it doesn't disservice to these kids because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I would like children to learn to be

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<v Speaker 2>more kind and more inclusive to people that aren't like them.

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<v Speaker 2>That I got that education, I and like, I consider

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<v Speaker 2>myself a very nice person, and I think that other

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<v Speaker 2>children don't. You don't have to like. Just because your

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<v Speaker 2>child cares about gay people doesn't make them gay. Guess

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<v Speaker 2>what My son is sist and straight, has a trans

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<v Speaker 2>older sibling and I'm queer.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, poor you weird?

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<v Speaker 2>Huh it's all.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't centry, but yeah, make you make a val

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<v Speaker 1>point here. Children are shits towards.

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<v Speaker 3>Other children.

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<v Speaker 1>And sits to each other. They don't care that mummy

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<v Speaker 1>or daddy or whoever has a moral objection to this,

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<v Speaker 1>that and the other. No there's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>little shit to the kid that's walking out of the classroom,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why the Supreme Court said all States sponsored

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<v Speaker 1>prayer in school is a no, even if there's an

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<v Speaker 1>opt out, because you are discriminating against the kids that

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<v Speaker 1>walk out the classroom. And this is what people don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't have a public education system that is cherry

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<v Speaker 1>pick and choose what next. I don't believe in the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth being one hundred million.

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<v Speaker 4>Years old or two billion years old, or whoever old

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<v Speaker 4>the Earth is. Therefore I'm going to offer my georganatic

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<v Speaker 4>geography lessons. No, the Earth is six thousand years old.

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<v Speaker 4>You're teaching plate tectonics. That is against this, that, and

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<v Speaker 4>the other. Therefore, you may not go.

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<v Speaker 3>To geography classes.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you teaching teaching the Big Bang? No cargo to

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<v Speaker 1>physics classes? Where does this end? With all these parental

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<v Speaker 1>rights bullshit? The problem that parents that bring these lawsuits

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<v Speaker 1>have is they forget the fundamentals of being a parent.

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<v Speaker 1>Here they believe that their job as a parent is

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<v Speaker 1>to create a fact simile of themselves. What you actually

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<v Speaker 1>want to do. You want to create an independent, healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>well adjusted individual who can stand on their own two

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<v Speaker 1>feet and get on in the world, not be a

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<v Speaker 1>facsimile of you. And that's what's the problem here, Aaron.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have fact similis of you or do you

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<v Speaker 1>have individuals around you?

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<v Speaker 3>You don't want fac similies of me around one of

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<v Speaker 3>me in the world? Is is one more than there

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<v Speaker 3>probably needs to be To be honest, No, ially agree

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<v Speaker 3>with you on this on this point. Your your job

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<v Speaker 3>as a parent is not to create copies of yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>It is to create people that can create individuals, human

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<v Speaker 3>beings that know who they are and that can provide

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<v Speaker 3>for themselves and take care of themselves as they as

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<v Speaker 3>they grow older. Eventually your kids are going to learn

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<v Speaker 3>that they're gay people in the world. Eventually your kids

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<v Speaker 3>are going to learn that they're Muslims in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, whatever group you fear, eventually your kids are

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<v Speaker 3>going to learn that that group exists. And do you

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<v Speaker 3>want to teach your kids to be fearful and bigoted

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<v Speaker 3>and hate hatred against things that they don't understand, or

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<v Speaker 3>do you want to give people your kids the knowledge

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<v Speaker 3>and understand of how the world is and how it

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<v Speaker 3>works and so they're not scared, so they're not unhappy,

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<v Speaker 3>because being fearful leadst to being unhappy and least to

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<v Speaker 3>bad things, in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Supreme Court, in its infant wisdom, it's decided

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<v Speaker 1>to take up another junk case. It took up for

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<v Speaker 1>Prishtone last year, which was junk cakes that it had

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<v Speaker 1>no it's about to take up and it's probably had

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<v Speaker 1>no choice about to take up this junk case. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that the Supreme Court is being forced to

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<v Speaker 1>take up these cases because lower court judges are not

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<v Speaker 1>doing their jobs properly and are allowing junk cases to

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<v Speaker 1>get further and further and further through the system where

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<v Speaker 1>they should just be throwing them out in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>Help, Yes, And now I think it's I do think

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot of this is politically motivated because just

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<v Speaker 2>and it gets attention. But I also think that there's

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<v Speaker 2>these smaller course that just don't want to deal with this,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I think that it's a combination of motivated

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<v Speaker 2>reasoning that we don't you know, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with this because this is something that we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have time to be what we have bigger fish to fry, like,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if you're like a smaller Court, and you have

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<v Speaker 2>local politics that you have to deal with that you're

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<v Speaker 2>just like, oh my god, like like I just pass

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<v Speaker 2>us on. But I also think it's politically motivated because

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<v Speaker 2>also as well, if you are these smaller courts, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you don't want to be the thing to rule

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<v Speaker 2>on this case because you don't want to, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>cause the stink. So bring it to the Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 2>Let them decide, and then you can be like hands off,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I kind of agree with them, but like hands off, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be involved, so it can be

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<v Speaker 2>you know, yes and no. At the same time, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think the Supreme Court should be listening to this

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<v Speaker 2>because we have cyclar education for a reason.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why we learned about things like the Holocaust and

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<v Speaker 2>about slavery when we were growing up, because it was

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<v Speaker 2>very important to learn about those things so you don't

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<v Speaker 1>All those things just a symptom of irrelevant wokeness that's

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't this just.

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<v Speaker 1>More wokeness, more indoctrination in our children and people just

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<v Speaker 1>being forced to accept things that just will never affect

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<v Speaker 2>Because your poor kid, I'm sorry, what if your kid

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<v Speaker 2>grows up to be, you know, queer, what are you

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<v Speaker 2>going to do then? Like no amount of like pretending

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<v Speaker 2>like if someone sees like a like like you're going

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<v Speaker 2>square people. It's going to happen. They live in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>they have the internet, they have television, they have friends,

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<v Speaker 2>they like they are not an island unto themselves. And

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that also if you want to send your

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<v Speaker 2>us as square people exist, fine, send your kid there.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't get to do that in public education. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't want your child to learn about diverse

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<v Speaker 2>groups of people, don't send them to the public school. Why

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<v Speaker 2>are you trying to force that standard? And you want

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<v Speaker 2>to you want to op the kid out? Now, great,

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<v Speaker 2>now you're teaching. Now you're teaching your kids they're the other.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of having that backfire in fact, and the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that you're part of a minority religion, like you're

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<v Speaker 2>part of the Islamic religion and you're doing this, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like you're shooting yourself in the foot. I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>love the irony about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they don't want this whole. They don't want this

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<v Speaker 3>in school because they know, deep down they don't have

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<v Speaker 3>a leg to stand on, right, they cannot defend their bigotry,

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<v Speaker 3>and so they want it out of schools so that

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<v Speaker 3>they don't have to confront their bigotry. Because it's out

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<v Speaker 3>of school, they can continue to teach the bad stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But if it's in schools, you know, gay people exist,

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<v Speaker 3>trans people exist, other races exist, then they have to

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<v Speaker 3>actively teach their kids. Oh no, no, that we have

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<v Speaker 3>to hate. We have to hate those people, We have

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<v Speaker 3>to not like those people, and they have to they

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<v Speaker 3>have to confront that. So of course they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>So I hear from the pair of you that you're

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<v Speaker 1>just part of the the You're just part of the

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<v Speaker 1>woke minority now that's becoming majority. Now let's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>take over. These are just good old family values that

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<v Speaker 1>we should just not be interfering with how parents raise

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<v Speaker 1>their children, right, Aaron, We shouldn't be interfering with how

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<v Speaker 1>parents raise their children. And if a parent says, look, school,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't agree with this. It goes against my religion

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to raise my children in a specific

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<v Speaker 1>way that doesn't agree with this. Aren't we just interfering

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<v Speaker 1>with how parents raising their children through the long arm

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<v Speaker 1>of the state in the mandated school so they have

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<v Speaker 1>to go from two from eight till three every day

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<v Speaker 3>Then don't put them in If you don't like what

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<v Speaker 3>the schools are teaching, then don't put them in a school.

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<v Speaker 3>Or get your friends together and start a school of

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<v Speaker 3>your own, homeschool them. You have choices, You have options,

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<v Speaker 3>or when they come home, teach them what you want

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<v Speaker 3>to teach them. That that contradicts whether they're teaching in school.

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<v Speaker 3>But when we come together as a society and we

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<v Speaker 3>say we have decided it is beneficial to society that

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<v Speaker 3>we educate our kids, that we educate our kids for

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<v Speaker 3>twelve years, that they get a high school diploma and

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<v Speaker 3>they go out into the world. We do this. Most major,

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<v Speaker 3>most countries in the world do this, especially first world countries.

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<v Speaker 3>There's value in educating your your kids. And because when

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<v Speaker 3>you bring these people together, you have to figure out

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<v Speaker 3>what can we all agree to teach each other? Right,

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<v Speaker 3>So what can we agree Well, how about we use

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<v Speaker 3>evidence and things that have evidence for them, and we'll

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<v Speaker 3>teach that to our kids. Things that can be shown

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<v Speaker 3>to be to comport with reality, we can teach true things. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>what what can't we do that? Well, we can't do

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<v Speaker 3>that with religion. Right, there's no evidence, there's no for religion,

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<v Speaker 3>which there's so many religions, which so that has to

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<v Speaker 3>stay out of schools.

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<v Speaker 1>But you haven't proved that it doesn't exist. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>have proven that negative, And we don't teach you in school.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't teach that there's universe aring faerries on the

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<v Speaker 1>Teach why not?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's no universal.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't I don't advocate for teaching it in schools.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I've got the evidence in the books though, the

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<v Speaker 1>books though, the Bible books, the Quran, the Torah, the Buta,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they're all the evidence there. That's all the

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<v Speaker 1>evidence you need are having.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are claims, not evidence. Those are claims.

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<v Speaker 1>The point I'm getting it, and this is the point

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting at you. This is the point I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>at here. These are all claims made by these groups

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<v Speaker 1>that these individuals are X Y and Z, A, B

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<v Speaker 1>and C and go against it. There's nothing to substantiate,

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<v Speaker 1>anything to back up what they're saying, apart from propaganda

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<v Speaker 1>and nonsense. For anybody that's been watching this has been

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<v Speaker 1>taking me seriously. You haven't seen me before on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>You haven't watched this show before, and you shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>taking me as holding those positions that I just espoused about, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you should teach all this, that and now, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>not how the world works. The world works based on me,

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<v Speaker 1>Helen Aaron, you, the listener, the producer, the people who'll

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<v Speaker 1>be on the show next week, and the people who

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<v Speaker 1>were on the show last week actually sitting down and

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<v Speaker 1>going what actually makes sense here. I am skeptical of

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<v Speaker 1>religion because it does not make sense. I am skeptical

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<v Speaker 1>of these claims by these parents because they are nothing

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<v Speaker 1>but nonsense. And I am skeptical of judges who rule

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<v Speaker 1>in favor of them as having any understanding of the

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<v Speaker 1>law and they're not doing their jobs properly. Skepticism is

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that you should be teaching your children, not ignorance,

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<v Speaker 1>and teaching your children ignorance by taking them out of

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<v Speaker 1>things that make you uncomfortable. From still your children uncomfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>but you uncomfortable. It is the most ridiculous and nonsensical

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<v Speaker 1>thing that you can choose to do in this world.

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<v Speaker 1>Creating ignorance and creating nonsense is not how we should

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<v Speaker 1>be doing. I am skeptical of you and your positions

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<v Speaker 1>on that, because it doesn't make any sense to a rational,

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<v Speaker 1>open minded individual who wants to embrace everybody as another

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<v Speaker 1>human being without going, well, you've got this skin color,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got this disability or ability, and so on and

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<v Speaker 1>so on. This is what we have got to this

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<v Speaker 1>point in the United States of America, the wealthiest country

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<v Speaker 1>on earth, is tying itselves in knots over things that

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<v Speaker 1>most of the rest of the world have realized is

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<v Speaker 1>a heap of shit. And if you believe that these

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of corn cases are a heap of shit, tell

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<v Speaker 1>us that they're a heap of shit. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>agree with these kinds of cork cases, tell us that too,