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<v Speaker 1>Come on upout any thirty one to fifty five carsite

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<v Speaker 1>talk station. A very happy Friday to you, really inspirational

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<v Speaker 1>Friday on the heels of the spirit of a true Patriot, which,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, author Douglas Ernst was very, very very profound

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<v Speaker 1>man of faith. I'm happy to welcome to the fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five cars Morning Show author of All for his Glory,

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<v Speaker 1>The Near Death Experience of a Modern day job, Pastor

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<v Speaker 1>David Scarlett. Pastor David, is a pleasure to have you

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<v Speaker 1>on the fifty five Carsee Morning Show today.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you for having me. It's a pleasure. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>And my father had a dear friend of his who

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<v Speaker 1>was a I think he was a hard surgeon. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a physician of some sort who ended up on

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<v Speaker 1>the operating table and died and they brought him back.

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<v Speaker 1>But when he died, he had one of those post

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<v Speaker 1>death experiences, and he was in the operating room looking

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<v Speaker 1>down on the operating table where he was lying. And

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<v Speaker 1>my recollection is he met his mom who had passed

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<v Speaker 1>prior to his passing, and had this unbelievable well post

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<v Speaker 1>death experience, only to be revived by the wonderful physicians

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<v Speaker 1>who were taking great care of him at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and from that point forward he didn't have a care

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<v Speaker 1>or worry in the world. My understanding is something comparable

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<v Speaker 1>that happened to you. You were a former US marine

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<v Speaker 1>and you're telecommunications executive but also founder of his Glory Ministry.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell my listeners about your story in brief, which of

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<v Speaker 1>course they're going to read about in your book.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's exactly very similar to what you just described.

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<v Speaker 2>I was the least likely, still in the least likely

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<v Speaker 2>person on the face of ear to be a pastor

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<v Speaker 2>and run a ministry that reaches twenty five million people

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<v Speaker 2>in every country of the world. But God had a

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<v Speaker 2>different plan. I rose the corporate ladder after being a marine,

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<v Speaker 2>are director of three Portramong of our companies, lots of ego,

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<v Speaker 2>lots of money, and the Lord had a different plan.

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<v Speaker 2>So on seven seven seven, I got a bad chili

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<v Speaker 2>dog which had bachulism toxin and I ended up dying

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<v Speaker 2>three times. The first time that they put me into

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<v Speaker 2>the Cleveland clinic was Friday the thirteenth. I died that night,

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<v Speaker 2>but I didn't have a near death experience. They revived

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<v Speaker 2>me to put me on a breathing tube. And then

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<v Speaker 2>they tried to pull the plug again, and that's when

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<v Speaker 2>I went to heaven. I immediately saw the panic on

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<v Speaker 2>the doctor's look on their faces. And when you're in

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<v Speaker 2>the Cleveland clinic, I see you, and you see the

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<v Speaker 2>Cleveland clinic doctor's panic, you know it's probably not good.

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<v Speaker 2>And the pain took there was no pain, there was

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<v Speaker 2>no anxiety. Life took me up to the heaven. Saw

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<v Speaker 2>the beauty of heaven. This's just unbelievable, joy, peace, love, pictures.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything is more vivid than we ever see here on

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<v Speaker 2>the earth. Everything was more The music was music that

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<v Speaker 2>I've never heard ever. He showed me these beautiful mahogany

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of my life from the time I was born

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<v Speaker 2>to the time to the age. So I had to

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<v Speaker 2>be dead for I wasn't having probably ten fifteen minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe more, but I think I was only clinically dead

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<v Speaker 2>for two or three minutes. And he showed me a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of key things in those pictures. First, those pictures

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<v Speaker 2>would never take in in my entire life. Those are

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<v Speaker 2>pictures that he took. He showed that in heaven, those

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<v Speaker 2>pictures were perfect, because heaven is perfect. But he later

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<v Speaker 2>told me that my report card was empty. There was

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<v Speaker 2>nothing I did good for him in those pictures. So

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<v Speaker 2>he brought me back and I was just couldn't believe

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<v Speaker 2>I'd just experienced heaven. They stabilized me, and just as

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<v Speaker 2>I'm coming back, I said, I didn't see Jesus when

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<v Speaker 2>I was in heaven. I said, Lord, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>see Jesus. I prayed that because I couldn't talk. And

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<v Speaker 2>before I even got that prayer, right at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of my bed was the Messiah Jesus, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>just glowing, beautiful, beautiful blue eyes and just absolutely love, peace, joy, hope,

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<v Speaker 2>and just overtook the room. So I knew exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>you said that. I had no fear from that point on.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it went really bad. I had five surgeries,

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<v Speaker 2>woke up in the stomach surgery right well, they're operating

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<v Speaker 2>on me. Collapse, along, pneumonia, you name it. It happened,

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<v Speaker 2>just barely hanging on. They finally got me stable to

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<v Speaker 2>pull the plug again, and as soon as they did,

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<v Speaker 2>they had all the top doctors and there's probably thirty

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<v Speaker 2>of the top doctors at the Cleveland kind of watching

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<v Speaker 2>sure enough. As soon as that happened, it started cold blue,

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<v Speaker 2>cold blue beeping, and I went up. I hovered above

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<v Speaker 2>them exactly the way you described in the hospital room,

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<v Speaker 2>and I saw them and they were panicking, and I said, Lord,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel fine, I feel your love, your joy. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't why are they panicking? And he said, my son,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to bring you back. You're going to start

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<v Speaker 2>a ministry called by my name, his Lord. You're going

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<v Speaker 2>to come out of the world and it'd be used

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<v Speaker 2>for me. And again, being a director at AT and T,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was the least likely person to come back

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<v Speaker 2>to drop everything and do that for him. And he

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<v Speaker 2>brought me back. And later there was a nurse that

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of mocking this, saying, you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure if you really experienced this. And then I overheard

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<v Speaker 2>two doctors that were in the room, and he says,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever happened in that room, we've never seen a light

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<v Speaker 2>radiate from the top of his bed of his bed before.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I hear you, know, hear the words the

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<v Speaker 1>peace of God, which passes all human understanding. You actually

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<v Speaker 1>did experience a piece of God, and do have an

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<v Speaker 1>understanding about what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Yeah, it's absolutely amazing when you get that was

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<v Speaker 2>called in the Hebrew the shalom, that piece. It can

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<v Speaker 2>only come from him. You don't fear anything. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>fear death. People ask me to do you fear death?

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<v Speaker 2>Not at all. When it's time to go home, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going home and I'm not worried about it. One bet.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing different this time than the first time

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<v Speaker 2>is my report card's going to be full because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to do what he told me to do, be

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<v Speaker 2>a servant for him and the rich souls.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, David, were you a man of faith before this happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously you experienced an enlightenment like few people

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<v Speaker 1>would ever understand going through this experience. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>how deep was your faith in your connection with with

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<v Speaker 1>with your with your Christianity and your religion prior to

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<v Speaker 1>this happening to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was raised. My mother was a prayer warrior.

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<v Speaker 2>She prayed for me many many years, twenty five years

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<v Speaker 2>until I would get to the point in my life

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<v Speaker 2>that I would pick up a Bible. So I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was about me. If I was going to get there,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be my own doing. So I was

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<v Speaker 2>a nine one one Christian, I would only pray when

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<v Speaker 2>I was in trouble. As soon as the Lord got

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<v Speaker 2>me out of trouble, I went back to my worldly ways.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like a c ande Christian right Christmas in Eastern.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and probably not even that. It's just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>something that was good that I needed help with, and

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<v Speaker 2>once he helped me, I was out the door. But

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<v Speaker 2>I had a severe mentor marital problem, and that's in

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<v Speaker 2>the book, and that shook me to my core just

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<v Speaker 2>before this near death experience, Like if I wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>had that, that's what triggered me to say, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's not about me, Maybe I need to search.

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<v Speaker 2>And I got into the Bible, studied King David, and

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<v Speaker 2>then that started my walk. So I truly believe that

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<v Speaker 2>if that wouldn't have happened, I wouldn't have made it.

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<v Speaker 2>To have it, I was saved, but I was not saved.

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<v Speaker 1>So since you talk about it in the book, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I can ask you, perhaps was your marital issues

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<v Speaker 2>Perhaps? Yes, I was a workaholic and my wife. I

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<v Speaker 2>took over as a director for Ohio and had to

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<v Speaker 2>just a workaholic, and that created an affair on her

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<v Speaker 2>part that went really bad. And most people would have

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<v Speaker 2>just left. But I had a choice, do I leave

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<v Speaker 2>or do I stay and humble myself? And how am

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<v Speaker 2>I going to get out of this? Because I was

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<v Speaker 2>always able to get out of things myself through the

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<v Speaker 2>rising of the corporate world, and I couldn't, so I

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<v Speaker 2>had to get on my knees and seek the Lord.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what started the process. And again, if that

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't happen, I don't think I would have made it

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, and amazing what you've done with the ministry, And

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<v Speaker 1>if my listeners are interested in checking it out, it's

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<v Speaker 1>his glory dot M the growth of that. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Clearly you have been blessed. I would

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<v Speaker 1>imagine you were blessed in business, but your life wasn't fulfilled.

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<v Speaker 1>This happened to you, Lord Almighty. You almost ate a

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<v Speaker 1>hot dog to die, and then you built this amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>huge church. I'm just reminded of if there was a

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<v Speaker 1>line from the movie Pappion a Steve McQueen and he

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<v Speaker 1>was standing as a dream sequence and he's stand in

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<v Speaker 1>front of a judge who says you are guilty of

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<v Speaker 1>a wasted life? Yeah, is that the kind of thing

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<v Speaker 1>when you're when you when you said that you were

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<v Speaker 1>told your report card was empty? Is it some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of Was that that the kind of realization or or

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<v Speaker 1>is it a way of summarizing how you felt reflecting

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right. You know, you could be the CEO

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<v Speaker 2>of AT and T, you could create the iPhone. At

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, that doesn't impress God, and

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter. It's only what we do for him

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<v Speaker 2>once we accept them in our heart and become servants.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's hard for people to get up the ladder

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<v Speaker 2>and to become a servant and give that all up.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's that's why Satan was thrown out of heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>Is his pride. We have to get rid of pride.

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<v Speaker 2>God can't work with a pride, and once we get

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<v Speaker 2>rid of that pride, we can be used for this purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>He can do amazing things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll tell you what, Pastor David Scarle, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a real inspirational conversation. I'll have my listeners get a

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<v Speaker 1>copy of every book. We'll put it on my blogman

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<v Speaker 1>podcast page fifty five carosee dot com all for his

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<v Speaker 1>glory the near death experience of a modern day job.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'll tell you what. While you're you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with other of the of the deadly sins, figure

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<v Speaker 1>out a way to get rid of the sin of envy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is the root of most all of

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<v Speaker 1>society's problems. Yeah, I agree, David. It's been a pleasure

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<v Speaker 1>having you on the program. So keep up the great

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<v Speaker 1>work and I'll encourage my listeners to get a copy

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<v Speaker 1>of the book and get inspired themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, and God bless you, and God

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<v Speaker 2>bless your care your listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, sir, have a wonderful weekend. A forty fifty

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