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Speaker 1: Friday on the heels of the spirit of a true Patriot, which,
Speaker 1: of course, author Douglas Ernst was very, very very profound
Speaker 1: man of faith. I'm happy to welcome to the fifty
Speaker 1: five cars Morning Show author of All for his Glory,
Speaker 1: The Near Death Experience of a Modern day job, Pastor
Speaker 1: David Scarlett. Pastor David, is a pleasure to have you
Speaker 1: on the fifty five Carsee Morning Show today.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for having me. It's a pleasure. Well.
Speaker 1: And my father had a dear friend of his who
Speaker 1: was a I think he was a hard surgeon. He
Speaker 1: was a physician of some sort who ended up on
Speaker 1: the operating table and died and they brought him back.
Speaker 1: But when he died, he had one of those post
Speaker 1: death experiences, and he was in the operating room looking
Speaker 1: down on the operating table where he was lying. And
Speaker 1: my recollection is he met his mom who had passed
Speaker 1: prior to his passing, and had this unbelievable well post
Speaker 1: death experience, only to be revived by the wonderful physicians
Speaker 1: who were taking great care of him at the time,
Speaker 1: and from that point forward he didn't have a care
Speaker 1: or worry in the world. My understanding is something comparable
Speaker 1: that happened to you. You were a former US marine
Speaker 1: and you're telecommunications executive but also founder of his Glory Ministry.
Speaker 1: Tell my listeners about your story in brief, which of
Speaker 1: course they're going to read about in your book.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's exactly very similar to what you just described.
Speaker 2: I was the least likely, still in the least likely
Speaker 2: person on the face of ear to be a pastor
Speaker 2: and run a ministry that reaches twenty five million people
Speaker 2: in every country of the world. But God had a
Speaker 2: different plan. I rose the corporate ladder after being a marine,
Speaker 2: are director of three Portramong of our companies, lots of ego,
Speaker 2: lots of money, and the Lord had a different plan.
Speaker 2: So on seven seven seven, I got a bad chili
Speaker 2: dog which had bachulism toxin and I ended up dying
Speaker 2: three times. The first time that they put me into
Speaker 2: the Cleveland clinic was Friday the thirteenth. I died that night,
Speaker 2: but I didn't have a near death experience. They revived
Speaker 2: me to put me on a breathing tube. And then
Speaker 2: they tried to pull the plug again, and that's when
Speaker 2: I went to heaven. I immediately saw the panic on
Speaker 2: the doctor's look on their faces. And when you're in
Speaker 2: the Cleveland clinic, I see you, and you see the
Speaker 2: Cleveland clinic doctor's panic, you know it's probably not good.
Speaker 2: And the pain took there was no pain, there was
Speaker 2: no anxiety. Life took me up to the heaven. Saw
Speaker 2: the beauty of heaven. This's just unbelievable, joy, peace, love, pictures.
Speaker 2: Everything is more vivid than we ever see here on
Speaker 2: the earth. Everything was more The music was music that
Speaker 2: I've never heard ever. He showed me these beautiful mahogany
Speaker 2: pictures of my life from the time I was born
Speaker 2: to the time to the age. So I had to
Speaker 2: be dead for I wasn't having probably ten fifteen minutes,
Speaker 2: maybe more, but I think I was only clinically dead
Speaker 2: for two or three minutes. And he showed me a
Speaker 2: couple of key things in those pictures. First, those pictures
Speaker 2: would never take in in my entire life. Those are
Speaker 2: pictures that he took. He showed that in heaven, those
Speaker 2: pictures were perfect, because heaven is perfect. But he later
Speaker 2: told me that my report card was empty. There was
Speaker 2: nothing I did good for him in those pictures. So
Speaker 2: he brought me back and I was just couldn't believe
Speaker 2: I'd just experienced heaven. They stabilized me, and just as
Speaker 2: I'm coming back, I said, I didn't see Jesus when
Speaker 2: I was in heaven. I said, Lord, I want to
Speaker 2: see Jesus. I prayed that because I couldn't talk. And
Speaker 2: before I even got that prayer, right at the end
Speaker 2: of my bed was the Messiah Jesus, and he was
Speaker 2: just glowing, beautiful, beautiful blue eyes and just absolutely love, peace, joy, hope,
Speaker 2: and just overtook the room. So I knew exactly what
Speaker 2: you said that. I had no fear from that point on.
Speaker 2: And then it went really bad. I had five surgeries,
Speaker 2: woke up in the stomach surgery right well, they're operating
Speaker 2: on me. Collapse, along, pneumonia, you name it. It happened,
Speaker 2: just barely hanging on. They finally got me stable to
Speaker 2: pull the plug again, and as soon as they did,
Speaker 2: they had all the top doctors and there's probably thirty
Speaker 2: of the top doctors at the Cleveland kind of watching
Speaker 2: this time to make sure nothing would go rock and
Speaker 2: sure enough. As soon as that happened, it started cold blue,
Speaker 2: cold blue beeping, and I went up. I hovered above
Speaker 2: them exactly the way you described in the hospital room,
Speaker 2: and I saw them and they were panicking, and I said, Lord,
Speaker 2: I feel fine, I feel your love, your joy. I
Speaker 2: don't why are they panicking? And he said, my son,
Speaker 2: I'm going to bring you back. You're going to start
Speaker 2: a ministry called by my name, his Lord. You're going
Speaker 2: to come out of the world and it'd be used
Speaker 2: for me. And again, being a director at AT and T,
Speaker 2: and I was the least likely person to come back
Speaker 2: to drop everything and do that for him. And he
Speaker 2: brought me back. And later there was a nurse that
Speaker 2: was kind of mocking this, saying, you know, I'm not
Speaker 2: sure if you really experienced this. And then I overheard
Speaker 2: two doctors that were in the room, and he says,
Speaker 2: whatever happened in that room, we've never seen a light
Speaker 2: radiate from the top of his bed of his bed before.
Speaker 1: So when I hear you, know, hear the words the
Speaker 1: peace of God, which passes all human understanding. You actually
Speaker 1: did experience a piece of God, and do have an
Speaker 1: understanding about what it is.
Speaker 2: Oh, Yeah, it's absolutely amazing when you get that was
Speaker 2: called in the Hebrew the shalom, that piece. It can
Speaker 2: only come from him. You don't fear anything. You don't
Speaker 2: fear death. People ask me to do you fear death?
Speaker 2: Not at all. When it's time to go home, I'm
Speaker 2: going home and I'm not worried about it. One bet.
Speaker 2: The only thing different this time than the first time
Speaker 2: is my report card's going to be full because I'm
Speaker 2: going to do what he told me to do, be
Speaker 2: a servant for him and the rich souls.
Speaker 1: Well, David, were you a man of faith before this happened.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you experienced an enlightenment like few people
Speaker 1: would ever understand going through this experience. But I mean,
Speaker 1: how deep was your faith in your connection with with
Speaker 1: with your with your Christianity and your religion prior to
Speaker 1: this happening to you?
Speaker 2: Well, I was raised. My mother was a prayer warrior.
Speaker 2: She prayed for me many many years, twenty five years
Speaker 2: until I would get to the point in my life
Speaker 2: that I would pick up a Bible. So I thought
Speaker 2: it was about me. If I was going to get there,
Speaker 2: it's going to be my own doing. So I was
Speaker 2: a nine one one Christian, I would only pray when
Speaker 2: I was in trouble. As soon as the Lord got
Speaker 2: me out of trouble, I went back to my worldly ways.
Speaker 1: It was like a c ande Christian right Christmas in Eastern.
Speaker 2: Exactly, and probably not even that. It's just you know,
Speaker 2: something that was good that I needed help with, and
Speaker 2: once he helped me, I was out the door. But
Speaker 2: I had a severe mentor marital problem, and that's in
Speaker 2: the book, and that shook me to my core just
Speaker 2: before this near death experience, Like if I wouldn't have
Speaker 2: had that, that's what triggered me to say, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: maybe it's not about me, Maybe I need to search.
Speaker 2: And I got into the Bible, studied King David, and
Speaker 2: then that started my walk. So I truly believe that
Speaker 2: if that wouldn't have happened, I wouldn't have made it.
Speaker 2: To have it, I was saved, but I was not saved.
Speaker 1: So since you talk about it in the book, I
Speaker 1: guess I can ask you, perhaps was your marital issues
Speaker 1: work related?
Speaker 2: Perhaps? Yes, I was a workaholic and my wife. I
Speaker 2: took over as a director for Ohio and had to
Speaker 2: move my wife and young step daughter, and I was
Speaker 2: just a workaholic, and that created an affair on her
Speaker 2: part that went really bad. And most people would have
Speaker 2: just left. But I had a choice, do I leave
Speaker 2: or do I stay and humble myself? And how am
Speaker 2: I going to get out of this? Because I was
Speaker 2: always able to get out of things myself through the
Speaker 2: rising of the corporate world, and I couldn't, so I
Speaker 2: had to get on my knees and seek the Lord.
Speaker 2: And that's what started the process. And again, if that
Speaker 2: wouldn't happen, I don't think I would have made it
Speaker 2: to happen.
Speaker 1: Wow, and amazing what you've done with the ministry, And
Speaker 1: if my listeners are interested in checking it out, it's
Speaker 1: his glory dot M the growth of that. It's just
Speaker 1: I don't know. Clearly you have been blessed. I would
Speaker 1: imagine you were blessed in business, but your life wasn't fulfilled.
Speaker 1: This happened to you, Lord Almighty. You almost ate a
Speaker 1: hot dog to die, and then you built this amazing,
Speaker 1: huge church. I'm just reminded of if there was a
Speaker 1: line from the movie Pappion a Steve McQueen and he
Speaker 1: was standing as a dream sequence and he's stand in
Speaker 1: front of a judge who says you are guilty of
Speaker 1: a wasted life? Yeah, is that the kind of thing
Speaker 1: when you're when you when you said that you were
Speaker 1: told your report card was empty? Is it some sort
Speaker 1: of Was that that the kind of realization or or
Speaker 1: is it a way of summarizing how you felt reflecting
Speaker 1: on your life.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. You know, you could be the CEO
Speaker 2: of AT and T, you could create the iPhone. At
Speaker 2: the end of the day, that doesn't impress God, and
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. It's only what we do for him
Speaker 2: once we accept them in our heart and become servants.
Speaker 2: And that's hard for people to get up the ladder
Speaker 2: and to become a servant and give that all up.
Speaker 2: But that's that's why Satan was thrown out of heaven.
Speaker 2: Is his pride. We have to get rid of pride.
Speaker 2: God can't work with a pride, and once we get
Speaker 2: rid of that pride, we can be used for this purpose.
Speaker 2: He can do amazing things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you what, Pastor David Scarle, it's been
Speaker 1: a real inspirational conversation. I'll have my listeners get a
Speaker 1: copy of every book. We'll put it on my blogman
Speaker 1: podcast page fifty five carosee dot com all for his
Speaker 1: glory the near death experience of a modern day job.
Speaker 1: You know, I'll tell you what. While you're you're you're
Speaker 1: dealing with other of the of the deadly sins, figure
Speaker 1: out a way to get rid of the sin of envy.
Speaker 1: I think that is the root of most all of
Speaker 1: society's problems. Yeah, I agree, David. It's been a pleasure
Speaker 1: having you on the program. So keep up the great
Speaker 1: work and I'll encourage my listeners to get a copy
Speaker 1: of the book and get inspired themselves.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, and God bless you, and God
Speaker 2: bless your care your listeners.
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