WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.520 --> 00:00:05.400 This is the Baseline discussing the hot button topics of 2 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:06.719 the NBA. 3 00:00:07.200 --> 00:00:09.119 Welcome everybody, your tune to the Baseline. 4 00:00:09.160 --> 00:00:12.240 Cali Warrn Shark discussing the hot button topics of the NBA. 5 00:00:12.599 --> 00:00:16.920 Rocking and rolling into twenty twenty five. I know everybody 6 00:00:16.960 --> 00:00:19.320 has got a little something going on. You know, we 7 00:00:19.559 --> 00:00:24.039 just fresh off of NBA Rivals week and then you 8 00:00:24.039 --> 00:00:26.640 know as well too. Man, we're right up on the 9 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:29.480 precipice of NBA All Star weekend, NBA Trade deadline, a 10 00:00:29.480 --> 00:00:32.079 lot of stuff happening, a lot of chitter chatter going 11 00:00:32.079 --> 00:00:35.159 on in some spaces and some teams and organizations, and 12 00:00:35.200 --> 00:00:37.439 we're all here for it, man, loving every single moment 13 00:00:37.479 --> 00:00:38.960 of it. We roll out the red carpet to my 14 00:00:39.039 --> 00:00:41.640 right hand man www dot shar Sports dot Net, Bikahuna, 15 00:00:41.640 --> 00:00:43.359 P and C. My man, mister Warrenshar repping out of 16 00:00:43.399 --> 00:00:46.679 Fort Lauderdale, Florida. What's good man, I'm still on location. 17 00:00:47.679 --> 00:00:49.840 But you know, the show must go on. 18 00:00:50.520 --> 00:00:52.200 The show must always go on. And you are a 19 00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:54.920 gentleman and a scholar for your dedication to the Baseline 20 00:00:55.079 --> 00:00:57.039 Day podcast. Always great to be here with you, brother. 21 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:01.439 You know your favorite week Rivals week is now yeah, man, 22 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:05.319 as you do to Yeah, we're about to march on 23 00:01:05.359 --> 00:01:07.280 into some other content. Man, it's gonna be It's gonna 24 00:01:07.280 --> 00:01:08.680 be a good one. All Star stuff to talk about 25 00:01:08.680 --> 00:01:09.560 this week. Man, I'm excited. 26 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:10.040 Yeah. 27 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:11.760 This the focus for this week's show is going to 28 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:15.640 be about the selections for NBA All Star Obviously, people 29 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:18.359 are are pretty much keeping their eyes tuned and aware 30 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:21.439 with the upcoming changes and the way that the NBA 31 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:25.519 All Star Game or All Star Game Slash twenty is 32 00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:26.959 going to be played. I wonder what kind of name 33 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:29.560 they're going to really come up with that. But I 34 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:31.519 think the most important aspect of this show is this 35 00:01:31.599 --> 00:01:34.599 the conversation about who's been selected, uh to be a 36 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:37.719 part of this year's NBA All Star you know, And 37 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:40.840 I know where my sediments lie. I'm a firm believer 38 00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:44.760 that it's more than about, you know, the the weekend 39 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:49.480 itself and saying and players is h is, you know, 40 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:52.719 being part of playing an NBA All Star Game. I'm 41 00:01:52.760 --> 00:01:57.079 more about the mindset of this person's performance. If we're 42 00:01:57.120 --> 00:01:59.879 you know, basically depicting through the course of the first 43 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:01.879 of the season all the way up until whatever they 44 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:05.760 deem as the cutoff point of what their performance reflects 45 00:02:05.799 --> 00:02:09.319 is indicative of being an All Star, right, And even 46 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:11.759 if you're on a losing team, if you have a 47 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:14.280 player who is performing at a high level, one that 48 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:18.000 is comparable to their contemporaries, and they're being, you know, 49 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:20.520 lauded and applauded as being considered as an All Star, 50 00:02:20.719 --> 00:02:23.199 why doesn't that person have that same kind of consideration. 51 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:25.800 And we've seen the waffling back and forth with the 52 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:28.400 way that the committee determines it. What we use to 53 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:33.400 kind of gauge that between fan voter, votership and the manager. 54 00:02:33.520 --> 00:02:37.120 I'm sorry, the coaches and ultimately the peers and the 55 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:39.759 percentages that deem that as everything like that. But I'm 56 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:41.400 just of the mindset that for us to make sure 57 00:02:41.439 --> 00:02:43.560 that we're highlighting all of the guys who are doing 58 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:45.919 remarkable work through the course of the first half of 59 00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:48.759 the season, you should be considered as an All Star. 60 00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:51.520 Whether you're participating in a game that clearly most of 61 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:54.159 these players are not putting one hundred percent effort into 62 00:02:54.879 --> 00:02:56.919 or not, I think they should still be considered as 63 00:02:56.960 --> 00:02:57.479 All Stars. 64 00:02:58.680 --> 00:03:01.080 I'll agree with the sentiment in terms of of the 65 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:03.800 aspect of talent and what a lot of these players 66 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:06.319 mean to the overall product of the league. So it 67 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:09.520 can't always be encapsulated by the thirty guys, if you will, 68 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:12.199 or whatever number it is that gets ultimately selected. You know, 69 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:16.240 for this I guess it's not thirty twenty four, So 70 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:18.599 that part of it too, And that's something that people 71 00:03:18.599 --> 00:03:20.439 always consider, like, hey, well, should there just be more 72 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:23.800 guys added to the proverbial aspect because it doesn't really 73 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:26.759 matter anyway, But you know, some of those some of 74 00:03:26.759 --> 00:03:29.159 those folks they like the designation. Some of them like, 75 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:31.039 you know what, I'd rather prefer the extra days off. 76 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:33.240 And as as always, I think we live in a 77 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:35.680 society where sometimes players and fans want it kind of 78 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:38.560 both ways. But I think from a talent perspective, there's 79 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:41.520 always more than the selected All Stars. So it'd be 80 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:43.759 an interesting way to kind of designate what that ultimately 81 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:45.120 means for the league as it pushes forward. 82 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:47.439 Absolutely, so we're going to get into some of the 83 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:50.520 reserves selections for the All Stars from both the East 84 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:51.199 and West. 85 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:53.680 I'm knowing a lot of predictions. 86 00:03:53.680 --> 00:03:56.479 I'm sorry we are. We are opening up the crystal 87 00:03:56.520 --> 00:04:05.639 Ball were in Shaw, Swami uh and Cal Copperfield is 88 00:04:05.719 --> 00:04:09.039 on it right so so yeah, so we'll be opening 89 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:12.319 up our our collective prediction prediction hats of who we 90 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:14.120 think is gonna be selected for the East and West. 91 00:04:14.439 --> 00:04:16.480 As always, be sure to get at my Manshaw aw 92 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:18.160 Sports NBA get at me a game face lead the 93 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:21.439 show's Twitter hand The NBA Baseline available on the major platforms. 94 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:24.120 You can go to www dot the Baseline NBA dot 95 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:26.279 com to not only check this episode, but also all 96 00:04:26.279 --> 00:04:28.759 of the shows that we archive for your listening pleasure. 97 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:30.759 And if you rock with us on the YouTube channel, 98 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:33.319 we say hello to you and you see the blue 99 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:35.040 and white logo that means what we are with the 100 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:37.519 nineteen Media Group Family, nineteen Media Group, you're running these 101 00:04:37.560 --> 00:04:40.519 content streets, so be sure to go to www dot 102 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:43.480 nineteen MediaGroup dot com to not only check us, but 103 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:45.839 the family are great content creators that are out there 104 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:48.360 in the nineteen Media Group space giving you what you 105 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:50.879 like to listen to a little bit of everything for 106 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:55.959 your listening pleasure. 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All right, 147 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:12.360 So all right, so here we go, man, let's talk 148 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:17.120 about it. We'll start with the Eastern Conference because when 149 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:19.160 the East is in the house, Oh my gosh, right, 150 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:23.560 who do we have tabbed to be part of the 151 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:29.000 All Star reserve lineup for this year's NBA All Star Extravaganza. 152 00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:32.399 Sure, I love that man, you were with the words 153 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:33.279 play today. 154 00:07:33.319 --> 00:07:35.240 I got some good sleepars just so you know. 155 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:38.240 Either that or I drank a really good mal Beck 156 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:39.519 and I'm still buzzing off that. 157 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:43.040 So for for. 158 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:45.240 Those following at home, the NBA alls are reserved have 159 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:46.959 yet to be announced. The recording of this show, and 160 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:49.480 it's it goes by the aspect of, hey, you need 161 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:52.879 two guards, three front three front court players, and two wildcards. 162 00:07:52.879 --> 00:07:55.120 So those wild cards can be you know, basically exactly 163 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:58.360 about anybody, even guard or front court player. So I 164 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:02.319 my selections are a little bit it. It's a hybrid 165 00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:04.759 of what I think the fans want, kind of what 166 00:08:04.839 --> 00:08:07.839 I want, and kind of old school methodology in terms 167 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:10.839 of thinking like how much your reward winning and how 168 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:12.839 much do you reward a team that you know should 169 00:08:12.839 --> 00:08:15.360 just have a certain All Star and certain presence there, 170 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:17.800 you know, versus the fans just want to see this individual. 171 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:20.600 So there'll be some some pretty significant snumbs on both 172 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:22.839 sides with the East and West for me. But to 173 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:25.160 just kind of rattle off, the first two guys in 174 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:27.199 at the guard spots I have for me are Daris 175 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:30.800 Garland and Kate Cunningham. I think Cleveland is going to 176 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:32.960 need at least two representatives on this for just how 177 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:34.840 they've kind of ran away with the Eastern Conference up 178 00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:38.039 to this point, and Garland has been just as important 179 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:40.080 as Donovan Mitchell, I think to the to the stage, 180 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:42.600 and Kate Cunningham we've talked about basically the last three 181 00:08:42.639 --> 00:08:46.279 episodes of how he's leading that Detroit team. Jaylen Brown, 182 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:48.440 I think it's kind of a no brainer at one 183 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:52.000 of the front court spots, and then the last two 184 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:55.240 front court spots for me are a little dicey. Pascal 185 00:08:55.279 --> 00:08:58.720 Siakam I think is deserving because the Pacers have started 186 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:00.320 to make a run. He's been better than how Burned 187 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:03.960 all season long in my personal opinion. But then Franz 188 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:07.519 Wagner from Orlando, I think the Magic deserveive representative. But 189 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:09.759 then there's the aspect has you know, has Franz played 190 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:12.200 enough games, you know, as we're recording twenty eight of 191 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:15.159 their forty five games, so that might be a hindrance. 192 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:17.200 But I'm going to go with them because I think 193 00:09:17.279 --> 00:09:19.360 Orlando's been a great story and he's been he was 194 00:09:19.399 --> 00:09:21.240 really light in the world on fire for you know, 195 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:22.840 more games than even Paula has been able to play 196 00:09:23.039 --> 00:09:24.960 through the course of this year. And then my final 197 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:27.200 two in terms of the wild cards, I think Trey 198 00:09:27.240 --> 00:09:29.600 Young from where Alanda has been able to do. And 199 00:09:29.639 --> 00:09:31.960 then LaMelo Ball who was actually the fans picked to 200 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:34.080 start in the game. And I understand he's on a 201 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:36.080 losing team, but I think if you're looking for that 202 00:09:36.120 --> 00:09:38.879 flayer on that excitement, his game is suited for All Stars. 203 00:09:38.879 --> 00:09:41.840 So those are my seven guys. Obviously there's some guys 204 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:43.480 I left off, but love to kind of throw it 205 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:44.759 to you, brother, to kind of see where you stand 206 00:09:44.759 --> 00:09:44.919 on this. 207 00:09:45.320 --> 00:09:48.440 So I kind of like where your selections are, you know, 208 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:52.399 I personally feel, you know, Pascal Siakam is really the 209 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:56.159 reason why the Indiana Pacers are even I guess, salvaging 210 00:09:56.200 --> 00:09:58.919 what would consider as a very disappointing season or giving 211 00:09:58.919 --> 00:10:01.320 people the perceptions that overachieved. 212 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:01.559 Turned it around. 213 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:05.000 No, they've turned it around. He's gonna it's consistent. 214 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:08.080 But I could argue that he arguably is really the best, 215 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:11.720 the best player because Tyree Salverton has just absolutely struggled 216 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:14.639 this year. There's no getting around it. He's been so 217 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:19.679 up and down and yet for where his position is, 218 00:10:19.720 --> 00:10:22.000 what his role is, that the way that their offense 219 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:23.480 has been set up. I don't want to be labored 220 00:10:23.480 --> 00:10:25.360 the point about this, but I'm just saying that I 221 00:10:25.399 --> 00:10:29.000 think there's some players who you can clearly tell they're 222 00:10:29.039 --> 00:10:32.440 going to be impacted because of the style of play 223 00:10:32.440 --> 00:10:35.639 that the teams are currently on, what they've been contributing to, 224 00:10:36.159 --> 00:10:39.440 and it's gonna look beyond the numbers to determine whether 225 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:41.600 or not they're going to actually be snubbed they're deserving. 226 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:43.480 And that's the reason why I focused right in on 227 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:46.080 Pascal Siakam right now, because he's one of those guys 228 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:48.879 Shaw who's always kind of benefited from having a much 229 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:52.559 more stable backcourt lineup that has allowed him. 230 00:10:52.399 --> 00:10:53.720 To produce the way that he produces. 231 00:10:53.759 --> 00:10:56.639 But I think from Jump Street, his level of consistency 232 00:10:56.759 --> 00:10:59.360 has far has far surpassed a lot of what we're 233 00:10:59.360 --> 00:11:01.200 talking about from the other guys that you've selected in 234 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:03.759 the Darius Garlands of Cape Cunninghams. All of these guys 235 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:06.799 are primary ball handlers right and in many ways have 236 00:11:06.879 --> 00:11:10.840 reflected being kind of like the the floor generals that 237 00:11:10.919 --> 00:11:13.559 have not just set up success for their other role 238 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:15.600 players but for themselves have been able to put up 239 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:21.320 really great statistics. Pascal Siakam, Franz Wagger, I think was compromised. 240 00:11:21.320 --> 00:11:24.519 More so the fact that you know his injury at 241 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:27.600 the time that he showed you peak France right would 242 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:29.840 would have probably made him an easy get. So I 243 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:32.519 don't see him necessarily being snubbed because I think now 244 00:11:32.559 --> 00:11:35.679 that they've got Paolo Moncarro the back, that there is 245 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:38.879 that that tandem combination has been identifiable with the with 246 00:11:38.919 --> 00:11:41.399 the Orlando Magic, and then you look again with the 247 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:44.000 Trey Young and LaMelo Ball again floor generals right like, 248 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:47.879 who have gone like nuts crazy and have elevated their 249 00:11:47.919 --> 00:11:50.399 teams in some respects, I mean, minus the Charlotte Hornet 250 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:51.080 who have struggled. 251 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:52.120 But Labelo Ball. 252 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:54.600 He must see TV and I'm sure fans would love 253 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:56.399 to see him out there on the basketball court. If 254 00:11:56.440 --> 00:11:58.159 nothing else, they'd love to see his brother probably do 255 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:01.919 you know, at a halftime uh show. So all that 256 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:04.440 being said, I don't snub any of the guys that 257 00:12:04.519 --> 00:12:06.240 you have mentioned. I think the one person who I 258 00:12:06.360 --> 00:12:08.919 be very much on the fence with is probably Pascal 259 00:12:08.960 --> 00:12:11.240 Siakam because I'm sure that they're going to probably do 260 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:13.200 some politics on that aspect of it. 261 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:17.480 That's interesting. I think I'm the one I'm most dubious 262 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:19.559 about or scared about is Franz just because of the 263 00:12:19.559 --> 00:12:22.399 game is played. And I think there's this tendency because 264 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:24.679 remember these are the coaches selections, so they have some 265 00:12:25.000 --> 00:12:27.679 preferential treatment to guys that they like. So I think 266 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:29.840 a guy like Evan Mobley because he's shown some strides 267 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:32.440 and Cleveland's been so good, I just know that Cleveland. 268 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:34.960 I don't know that Cleveland needs three All Stars. I 269 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:36.600 just don't know that that's really the case. And the 270 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:40.000 Mobley's quite that quite that good just yet. But I 271 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:42.480 wouldn't hate it. And I think the other guy too 272 00:12:42.519 --> 00:12:46.320 when you're talking about that at that forward spot is 273 00:12:47.039 --> 00:12:49.279 Zach Lavine potentially, you know, if you want to qualify 274 00:12:49.360 --> 00:12:51.360 him as that. But then the old the old adage 275 00:12:51.360 --> 00:12:54.080 of bam Adebayo and out of Bayo's had a down year, 276 00:12:54.440 --> 00:12:56.840 coaches love that guy. I mean, there's a lot to love, 277 00:12:57.279 --> 00:12:59.039 but I think there's just someone like you. Sometimes they 278 00:12:59.080 --> 00:12:59.960 just kind of rubber stamp. 279 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:01.360 Hence the quandary. 280 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:03.480 Bam is probably more likely to get the All star 281 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:06.120 nod than that Franz is, although I don't think statistically 282 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:07.000 it would make a lot of sense. 283 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:10.840 Hence the quandary, right Shaw, because again, what are what 284 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:15.120 is going to tip the scale in order to favor 285 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:19.799 one or if not any of these players uh to 286 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:22.240 get in at the expense of somebody else who probably 287 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:25.679 is equally deserving. To your point, you know when you 288 00:13:25.720 --> 00:13:28.679 say down year, down year by what we have previously 289 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:32.399 come to expect from Bamana Bayou, because every year should 290 00:13:32.399 --> 00:13:35.320 be incrementally better than the year previous, given the way 291 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:39.240 that that team has been structured, given the circumstances, which 292 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:42.639 again speaks more to what those other contributions are that 293 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:45.399 bam probably makes for this Miami Heat team, if not 294 00:13:45.519 --> 00:13:48.639 for them to still be even in playing contention right 295 00:13:49.399 --> 00:13:52.039 at times. So that's the part that's really kind of disturbing, 296 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:54.679 is the fact that we're not gonna we're not gonna 297 00:13:54.679 --> 00:13:58.080 count that. We're relying on the you know, the head 298 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:00.679 coaches who will have a say in this to look 299 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:03.080 at that, and they probably are determining that a whole 300 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:06.120 lot more than the popularity aspect of what a player 301 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:10.440 is basically doing. So you know, I'm just more curious again, 302 00:14:10.960 --> 00:14:15.679 where where where that line or what those factors are 303 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:19.200 and who's actually levying those factors. More so for the 304 00:14:19.240 --> 00:14:22.440 type of players, because typically it's an even keels thing 305 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:24.320 when we look at the performances from some of these 306 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:27.360 players and how they operate. But this year, it's it's 307 00:14:27.399 --> 00:14:30.360 been kind of noticeable. And I think part of it too, 308 00:14:30.440 --> 00:14:31.960 is because of the fact that we have a lot 309 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:34.159 of you know, a lot of new head coaches right 310 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:36.919 that are representing in the Eastern Conference that I think 311 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:38.559 are having an impact. 312 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:40.879 On us, being introduced to some of. 313 00:14:40.840 --> 00:14:45.879 These players who are now getting an opportunity to really shine, 314 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:48.919 so that it's it's it's kind of the one person 315 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:51.279 that I'm really curious about, Sean, you mentioned Jalen Brown. 316 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:55.519 Is it just me or as as great as a 317 00:14:55.679 --> 00:14:58.440 season as I think we're saying that Jalen Brown is 318 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:02.399 having it's still yet a relatively quiet season, maybe because 319 00:15:02.399 --> 00:15:06.720 we expected him to be a starter alongside of Jason Tatum. 320 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:10.879 To some degree, I think he hasn't been, as I 321 00:15:10.919 --> 00:15:13.759 want to say, not as impactful, but it's just it 322 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:15.559 feels different. But it's the same thing with Bam. It 323 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:18.159 feels different, you know, and the numbers I think even 324 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:20.799 reflecting that for both of those guys. But I think 325 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:24.039 with Boston still, despite how mediocre they've been over the 326 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:26.679 last month and change of the season, they still sit 327 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:29.320 in the second seat in the Eastern Conference, do you 328 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:32.159 know the pedigree? And that's where it's kind of like, hey, well, 329 00:15:32.360 --> 00:15:34.159 this is something that I don't see your rubber stampion 330 00:15:34.200 --> 00:15:36.919 Jalen Brown in, but something still deserves two All Stars 331 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:39.360 based on kind of their importance to the league being 332 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:42.600 the defendant champions and their current actual league standings, you know, 333 00:15:42.639 --> 00:15:44.840 at this stage of the season. So real quick, though, 334 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:47.200 I want to just kind of highlight my snubs because 335 00:15:47.840 --> 00:15:49.720 there's gonna be a lot of people like, no, Damian 336 00:15:49.759 --> 00:15:52.039 Lillard and how can you not put jam in? 337 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:57.440 Because exactly right, No, I mean, and to the point 338 00:15:57.480 --> 00:16:01.639 Shaw again, is what Damian Lillard doing considered All Star 339 00:16:01.720 --> 00:16:03.120 worthy for this season? 340 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:03.559 Right? 341 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:07.279 You look at his numbers, right, Damian Lillard's posting some 342 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:10.159 pretty good numbers. But then again, are you contempt Are 343 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:13.279 you comparing that to the level of what the Jalen 344 00:16:13.320 --> 00:16:16.559 Brunson's are doing and even the da Darius Garlands are doing. 345 00:16:16.600 --> 00:16:20.399 And saying, yeah, he's just not all star worthy enough 346 00:16:20.879 --> 00:16:23.480 to be in this to be a part of this list. 347 00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:26.039 And that's where I tend. 348 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:30.000 To, you know, because he's putting together some really good 349 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:32.559 numbers and the Milwaukee Bucks are still a top four 350 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:34.360 team in the Eastern Conference. 351 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:36.559 So how does that not resonate? 352 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:38.840 Well? Remember remember this is me speaking, man, and I 353 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:41.840 understand you if you if you want what I think 354 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:44.600 the coaches are gonna actually do. I think a guy 355 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:46.840 like Bam or Evan Mobley gets in over Wagner, and 356 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:48.759 I think Dame gets in over La mellow Ball from 357 00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:51.399 my pigs, because I think that's just the coaches like, hey, 358 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:53.399 these are the guys. We know, they're tried and true, 359 00:16:53.639 --> 00:16:55.559 we love the way they play, et cetera, et cetera. 360 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:57.679 See, but I was trying to. I was trying to. 361 00:16:57.720 --> 00:17:00.919 I was trying to draw out you know what I'm saying, Uh, 362 00:17:01.080 --> 00:17:03.240 you know alter ego Shaw, like like, you know what 363 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:05.519 I'm saying, the other side of Shaw is cal Shaw. 364 00:17:05.559 --> 00:17:06.680 You know what I'm saying. I was trying to draw 365 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:07.039 that out. 366 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:08.960 I wanted I wanted to see where on the on 367 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:10.680 the on the line you wanted to be at with 368 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:13.559 this whole thing. But I understand you're laying out a 369 00:17:13.640 --> 00:17:16.160 level of That's why I call you the diplomat, because 370 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:18.480 you're laying out a level of diplomacy where it's just like, 371 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:20.599 don't get mad yet, don't you know, bring out the 372 00:17:20.720 --> 00:17:23.400 break out the tiki torches just yet and start burning effigies. 373 00:17:23.559 --> 00:17:24.519 I'm just letting you know. 374 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:28.000 I'm standing on my own business. But I also understand 375 00:17:28.039 --> 00:17:30.880 the politics of the NBA. So if I was a 376 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:32.559 coach and had a spot, that's actually those are the 377 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:35.759 guys who I'd go with. But I know that for 378 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:38.559 for the most part, the coaches like Chalk. They're like, hey, 379 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:40.240 we like the same guys. We like who we like, 380 00:17:40.279 --> 00:17:42.599 And LaMelo's ball is not esthetically pleasing for a lot 381 00:17:42.640 --> 00:17:44.240 of folks and they just feel like he's chucking. But 382 00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:46.440 I think the fans he was a leading vote getter 383 00:17:46.480 --> 00:17:48.759 by the fans standpoint in the East the East Guard, 384 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:51.200 so the fans want to see him there. But I 385 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:53.279 don't know if the coaches will actually go with my selection. 386 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:55.480 That's why I think a guy like Dame probably gets in. 387 00:17:55.759 --> 00:17:58.319 But again, I stubbed mobilely. I subbed I snubbed Dame, 388 00:17:58.440 --> 00:18:01.519 I snubbed Tyrese Maxi and Tyler Hero to a lesser 389 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:03.599 degree as well. So those are the main guys that 390 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:06.200 are not on my list that you know might be 391 00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:07.759 in the running for one of these spots. 392 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:10.960 As we're discussing, Yeah, I think the one person who 393 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:12.880 I think I would have been on the fence. So like, 394 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:14.720 let's maybe look at guys that we would say on 395 00:18:14.759 --> 00:18:17.400 the fence. I say Tyrese Maxey certainly on the fence, 396 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:21.359 simply because I don't think that he was prepared to 397 00:18:21.400 --> 00:18:26.039 shoulder the load as much as he has and especially 398 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:29.240 as well too with the presence of Paul George. Again, 399 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:31.480 this is why I was not completely like I'm not 400 00:18:31.519 --> 00:18:34.720 saying this, you know, as it pertains to this was 401 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:37.400