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Speaker 1: This the focus for this week's show is going to
Speaker 1: be about the selections for NBA All Star Obviously, people
Speaker 1: are are pretty much keeping their eyes tuned and aware
Speaker 1: with the upcoming changes and the way that the NBA
Speaker 1: All Star Game or All Star Game Slash twenty is
Speaker 1: going to be played. I wonder what kind of name
Speaker 1: they're going to really come up with that. But I
Speaker 1: think the most important aspect of this show is this
Speaker 1: the conversation about who's been selected, uh to be a
Speaker 1: part of this year's NBA All Star you know, And
Speaker 1: I know where my sediments lie. I'm a firm believer
Speaker 1: that it's more than about, you know, the the weekend
Speaker 1: itself and saying and players is h is, you know,
Speaker 1: being part of playing an NBA All Star Game. I'm
Speaker 1: more about the mindset of this person's performance. If we're
Speaker 1: you know, basically depicting through the course of the first
Speaker 1: of the season all the way up until whatever they
Speaker 1: deem as the cutoff point of what their performance reflects
Speaker 1: is indicative of being an All Star, right, And even
Speaker 1: if you're on a losing team, if you have a
Speaker 1: player who is performing at a high level, one that
Speaker 1: is comparable to their contemporaries, and they're being, you know,
Speaker 1: lauded and applauded as being considered as an All Star,
Speaker 1: why doesn't that person have that same kind of consideration.
Speaker 1: And we've seen the waffling back and forth with the
Speaker 1: way that the committee determines it. What we use to
Speaker 1: kind of gauge that between fan voter, votership and the manager.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, the coaches and ultimately the peers and the
Speaker 1: percentages that deem that as everything like that. But I'm
Speaker 1: just of the mindset that for us to make sure
Speaker 1: that we're highlighting all of the guys who are doing
Speaker 1: remarkable work through the course of the first half of
Speaker 1: the season, you should be considered as an All Star.
Speaker 1: Whether you're participating in a game that clearly most of
Speaker 1: these players are not putting one hundred percent effort into
Speaker 1: or not, I think they should still be considered as
Speaker 1: All Stars.
Speaker 3: I'll agree with the sentiment in terms of of the
Speaker 3: aspect of talent and what a lot of these players
Speaker 3: mean to the overall product of the league. So it
Speaker 3: can't always be encapsulated by the thirty guys, if you will,
Speaker 3: or whatever number it is that gets ultimately selected. You know,
Speaker 3: for this I guess it's not thirty twenty four, So
Speaker 3: that part of it too, And that's something that people
Speaker 3: always consider, like, hey, well, should there just be more
Speaker 3: guys added to the proverbial aspect because it doesn't really
Speaker 3: matter anyway, But you know, some of those some of
Speaker 3: those folks they like the designation. Some of them like,
Speaker 3: you know what, I'd rather prefer the extra days off.
Speaker 3: And as as always, I think we live in a
Speaker 3: society where sometimes players and fans want it kind of
Speaker 3: both ways. But I think from a talent perspective, there's
Speaker 3: always more than the selected All Stars. So it'd be
Speaker 3: an interesting way to kind of designate what that ultimately
Speaker 3: means for the league as it pushes forward.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, so we're going to get into some of the
Speaker 1: reserves selections for the All Stars from both the East
Speaker 1: and West.
Speaker 2: I'm knowing a lot of predictions.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry we are. We are opening up the crystal
Speaker 1: Ball were in Shaw, Swami uh and Cal Copperfield is
Speaker 1: on it right so so yeah, so we'll be opening
Speaker 1: up our our collective prediction prediction hats of who we
Speaker 1: think is gonna be selected for the East and West.
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Speaker 1: Cal and I start talking about those East and West
Speaker 1: predictions under reserves for All Stars, So don't go anywhere.
Speaker 1: We're back, Cali Warrenshaw Baseline NBA Podcast, time to discuss
Speaker 1: NBA All Star Reserves, and it's time.
Speaker 2: For us to open up our crystal ball. You like that.
Speaker 1: I wish there was some okay exactly are you?
Speaker 3: Uh? You know? Mysterio?
Speaker 1: So Sean, while I illuminate, you can pontificate. All right,
Speaker 1: So all right, so here we go, man, let's talk
Speaker 1: about it. We'll start with the Eastern Conference because when
Speaker 1: the East is in the house, Oh my gosh, right,
Speaker 1: who do we have tabbed to be part of the
Speaker 1: All Star reserve lineup for this year's NBA All Star Extravaganza.
Speaker 3: Sure, I love that man, you were with the words
Speaker 3: play today.
Speaker 2: I got some good sleepars just so you know.
Speaker 1: Either that or I drank a really good mal Beck
Speaker 1: and I'm still buzzing off that.
Speaker 2: So for for.
Speaker 3: Those following at home, the NBA alls are reserved have
Speaker 3: yet to be announced. The recording of this show, and
Speaker 3: it's it goes by the aspect of, hey, you need
Speaker 3: two guards, three front three front court players, and two wildcards.
Speaker 3: So those wild cards can be you know, basically exactly
Speaker 3: about anybody, even guard or front court player. So I
Speaker 3: my selections are a little bit it. It's a hybrid
Speaker 3: of what I think the fans want, kind of what
Speaker 3: I want, and kind of old school methodology in terms
Speaker 3: of thinking like how much your reward winning and how
Speaker 3: much do you reward a team that you know should
Speaker 3: just have a certain All Star and certain presence there,
Speaker 3: you know, versus the fans just want to see this individual.
Speaker 3: So there'll be some some pretty significant snumbs on both
Speaker 3: sides with the East and West for me. But to
Speaker 3: just kind of rattle off, the first two guys in
Speaker 3: at the guard spots I have for me are Daris
Speaker 3: Garland and Kate Cunningham. I think Cleveland is going to
Speaker 3: need at least two representatives on this for just how
Speaker 3: they've kind of ran away with the Eastern Conference up
Speaker 3: to this point, and Garland has been just as important
Speaker 3: as Donovan Mitchell, I think to the to the stage,
Speaker 3: and Kate Cunningham we've talked about basically the last three
Speaker 3: episodes of how he's leading that Detroit team. Jaylen Brown,
Speaker 3: I think it's kind of a no brainer at one
Speaker 3: of the front court spots, and then the last two
Speaker 3: front court spots for me are a little dicey. Pascal
Speaker 3: Siakam I think is deserving because the Pacers have started
Speaker 3: to make a run. He's been better than how Burned
Speaker 3: all season long in my personal opinion. But then Franz
Speaker 3: Wagner from Orlando, I think the Magic deserveive representative. But
Speaker 3: then there's the aspect has you know, has Franz played
Speaker 3: enough games, you know, as we're recording twenty eight of
Speaker 3: their forty five games, so that might be a hindrance.
Speaker 3: But I'm going to go with them because I think
Speaker 3: Orlando's been a great story and he's been he was
Speaker 3: really light in the world on fire for you know,
Speaker 3: more games than even Paula has been able to play
Speaker 3: through the course of this year. And then my final
Speaker 3: two in terms of the wild cards, I think Trey
Speaker 3: Young from where Alanda has been able to do. And
Speaker 3: then LaMelo Ball who was actually the fans picked to
Speaker 3: start in the game. And I understand he's on a
Speaker 3: losing team, but I think if you're looking for that
Speaker 3: flayer on that excitement, his game is suited for All Stars.
Speaker 3: So those are my seven guys. Obviously there's some guys
Speaker 3: I left off, but love to kind of throw it
Speaker 3: to you, brother, to kind of see where you stand
Speaker 3: on this.
Speaker 1: So I kind of like where your selections are, you know,
Speaker 1: I personally feel, you know, Pascal Siakam is really the
Speaker 1: reason why the Indiana Pacers are even I guess, salvaging
Speaker 1: what would consider as a very disappointing season or giving
Speaker 1: people the perceptions that overachieved.
Speaker 3: Turned it around.
Speaker 2: No, they've turned it around. He's gonna it's consistent.
Speaker 1: But I could argue that he arguably is really the best,
Speaker 1: the best player because Tyree Salverton has just absolutely struggled
Speaker 1: this year. There's no getting around it. He's been so
Speaker 1: up and down and yet for where his position is,
Speaker 1: what his role is, that the way that their offense
Speaker 1: has been set up. I don't want to be labored
Speaker 1: the point about this, but I'm just saying that I
Speaker 1: think there's some players who you can clearly tell they're
Speaker 1: going to be impacted because of the style of play
Speaker 1: that the teams are currently on, what they've been contributing to,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna look beyond the numbers to determine whether
Speaker 1: or not they're going to actually be snubbed they're deserving.
Speaker 1: And that's the reason why I focused right in on
Speaker 1: Pascal Siakam right now, because he's one of those guys
Speaker 1: Shaw who's always kind of benefited from having a much
Speaker 1: more stable backcourt lineup that has allowed him.
Speaker 2: To produce the way that he produces.
Speaker 1: But I think from Jump Street, his level of consistency
Speaker 1: has far has far surpassed a lot of what we're
Speaker 1: talking about from the other guys that you've selected in
Speaker 1: the Darius Garlands of Cape Cunninghams. All of these guys
Speaker 1: are primary ball handlers right and in many ways have
Speaker 1: reflected being kind of like the the floor generals that
Speaker 1: have not just set up success for their other role
Speaker 1: players but for themselves have been able to put up
Speaker 1: really great statistics. Pascal Siakam, Franz Wagger, I think was compromised.
Speaker 1: More so the fact that you know his injury at
Speaker 1: the time that he showed you peak France right would
Speaker 1: would have probably made him an easy get. So I
Speaker 1: don't see him necessarily being snubbed because I think now
Speaker 1: that they've got Paolo Moncarro the back, that there is
Speaker 1: that that tandem combination has been identifiable with the with
Speaker 1: the Orlando Magic, and then you look again with the
Speaker 1: Trey Young and LaMelo Ball again floor generals right like,
Speaker 1: who have gone like nuts crazy and have elevated their
Speaker 1: teams in some respects, I mean, minus the Charlotte Hornet
Speaker 1: who have struggled.
Speaker 2: But Labelo Ball.
Speaker 1: He must see TV and I'm sure fans would love
Speaker 1: to see him out there on the basketball court. If
Speaker 1: nothing else, they'd love to see his brother probably do
Speaker 1: you know, at a halftime uh show. So all that
Speaker 1: being said, I don't snub any of the guys that
Speaker 1: you have mentioned. I think the one person who I
Speaker 1: be very much on the fence with is probably Pascal
Speaker 1: Siakam because I'm sure that they're going to probably do
Speaker 1: some politics on that aspect of it.
Speaker 3: That's interesting. I think I'm the one I'm most dubious
Speaker 3: about or scared about is Franz just because of the
Speaker 3: game is played. And I think there's this tendency because
Speaker 3: remember these are the coaches selections, so they have some
Speaker 3: preferential treatment to guys that they like. So I think
Speaker 3: a guy like Evan Mobley because he's shown some strides
Speaker 3: and Cleveland's been so good, I just know that Cleveland.
Speaker 3: I don't know that Cleveland needs three All Stars. I
Speaker 3: just don't know that that's really the case. And the
Speaker 3: Mobley's quite that quite that good just yet. But I
Speaker 3: wouldn't hate it. And I think the other guy too
Speaker 3: when you're talking about that at that forward spot is
Speaker 3: Zach Lavine potentially, you know, if you want to qualify
Speaker 3: him as that. But then the old the old adage
Speaker 3: of bam Adebayo and out of Bayo's had a down year,
Speaker 3: coaches love that guy. I mean, there's a lot to love,
Speaker 3: but I think there's just someone like you. Sometimes they
Speaker 3: just kind of rubber stamp.
Speaker 2: Hence the quandary.
Speaker 3: Bam is probably more likely to get the All star
Speaker 3: nod than that Franz is, although I don't think statistically
Speaker 3: it would make a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: Hence the quandary, right Shaw, because again, what are what
Speaker 1: is going to tip the scale in order to favor
Speaker 1: one or if not any of these players uh to
Speaker 1: get in at the expense of somebody else who probably
Speaker 1: is equally deserving. To your point, you know when you
Speaker 1: say down year, down year by what we have previously
Speaker 1: come to expect from Bamana Bayou, because every year should
Speaker 1: be incrementally better than the year previous, given the way
Speaker 1: that that team has been structured, given the circumstances, which
Speaker 1: again speaks more to what those other contributions are that
Speaker 1: bam probably makes for this Miami Heat team, if not
Speaker 1: for them to still be even in playing contention right
Speaker 1: at times. So that's the part that's really kind of disturbing,
Speaker 1: is the fact that we're not gonna we're not gonna
Speaker 1: count that. We're relying on the you know, the head
Speaker 1: coaches who will have a say in this to look
Speaker 1: at that, and they probably are determining that a whole
Speaker 1: lot more than the popularity aspect of what a player
Speaker 1: is basically doing. So you know, I'm just more curious again,
Speaker 1: where where where that line or what those factors are
Speaker 1: and who's actually levying those factors. More so for the
Speaker 1: type of players, because typically it's an even keels thing
Speaker 1: when we look at the performances from some of these
Speaker 1: players and how they operate. But this year, it's it's
Speaker 1: been kind of noticeable. And I think part of it too,
Speaker 1: is because of the fact that we have a lot
Speaker 1: of you know, a lot of new head coaches right
Speaker 1: that are representing in the Eastern Conference that I think
Speaker 1: are having an impact.
Speaker 2: On us, being introduced to some of.
Speaker 1: These players who are now getting an opportunity to really shine,
Speaker 1: so that it's it's it's kind of the one person
Speaker 1: that I'm really curious about, Sean, you mentioned Jalen Brown.
Speaker 1: Is it just me or as as great as a
Speaker 1: season as I think we're saying that Jalen Brown is
Speaker 1: having it's still yet a relatively quiet season, maybe because
Speaker 1: we expected him to be a starter alongside of Jason Tatum.
Speaker 3: To some degree, I think he hasn't been, as I
Speaker 3: want to say, not as impactful, but it's just it
Speaker 3: feels different. But it's the same thing with Bam. It
Speaker 3: feels different, you know, and the numbers I think even
Speaker 3: reflecting that for both of those guys. But I think
Speaker 3: with Boston still, despite how mediocre they've been over the
Speaker 3: last month and change of the season, they still sit
Speaker 3: in the second seat in the Eastern Conference, do you
Speaker 3: know the pedigree? And that's where it's kind of like, hey, well,
Speaker 3: this is something that I don't see your rubber stampion
Speaker 3: Jalen Brown in, but something still deserves two All Stars
Speaker 3: based on kind of their importance to the league being
Speaker 3: the defendant champions and their current actual league standings, you know,
Speaker 3: at this stage of the season. So real quick, though,
Speaker 3: I want to just kind of highlight my snubs because
Speaker 3: there's gonna be a lot of people like, no, Damian
Speaker 3: Lillard and how can you not put jam in?
Speaker 1: Because exactly right, No, I mean, and to the point
Speaker 1: Shaw again, is what Damian Lillard doing considered All Star
Speaker 1: worthy for this season?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: You look at his numbers, right, Damian Lillard's posting some
Speaker 1: pretty good numbers. But then again, are you contempt Are
Speaker 1: you comparing that to the level of what the Jalen
Speaker 1: Brunson's are doing and even the da Darius Garlands are doing.
Speaker 1: And saying, yeah, he's just not all star worthy enough
Speaker 1: to be in this to be a part of this list.
Speaker 2: And that's where I tend.
Speaker 1: To, you know, because he's putting together some really good
Speaker 1: numbers and the Milwaukee Bucks are still a top four
Speaker 1: team in the Eastern Conference.
Speaker 2: So how does that not resonate?
Speaker 3: Well? Remember remember this is me speaking, man, and I
Speaker 3: understand you if you if you want what I think
Speaker 3: the coaches are gonna actually do. I think a guy
Speaker 3: like Bam or Evan Mobley gets in over Wagner, and
Speaker 3: I think Dame gets in over La mellow Ball from
Speaker 3: my pigs, because I think that's just the coaches like, hey,
Speaker 3: these are the guys. We know, they're tried and true,
Speaker 3: we love the way they play, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2: See, but I was trying to. I was trying to.
Speaker 1: I was trying to draw out you know what I'm saying, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know alter ego Shaw, like like, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, the other side of Shaw is cal Shaw.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I was trying to draw
Speaker 2: that out.
Speaker 1: I wanted I wanted to see where on the on
Speaker 1: the on the line you wanted to be at with
Speaker 1: this whole thing. But I understand you're laying out a
Speaker 1: level of That's why I call you the diplomat, because
Speaker 1: you're laying out a level of diplomacy where it's just like,
Speaker 1: don't get mad yet, don't you know, bring out the
Speaker 1: break out the tiki torches just yet and start burning effigies.
Speaker 2: I'm just letting you know.
Speaker 3: I'm standing on my own business. But I also understand
Speaker 3: the politics of the NBA. So if I was a
Speaker 3: coach and had a spot, that's actually those are the
Speaker 3: guys who I'd go with. But I know that for
Speaker 3: for the most part, the coaches like Chalk. They're like, hey,
Speaker 3: we like the same guys. We like who we like,
Speaker 3: And LaMelo's ball is not esthetically pleasing for a lot
Speaker 3: of folks and they just feel like he's chucking. But
Speaker 3: I think the fans he was a leading vote getter
Speaker 3: by the fans standpoint in the East the East Guard,
Speaker 3: so the fans want to see him there. But I
Speaker 3: don't know if the coaches will actually go with my selection.
Speaker 3: That's why I think a guy like Dame probably gets in.
Speaker 3: But again, I stubbed mobilely. I subbed I snubbed Dame,
Speaker 3: I snubbed Tyrese Maxi and Tyler Hero to a lesser
Speaker 3: degree as well. So those are the main guys that
Speaker 3: are not on my list that you know might be
Speaker 3: in the running for one of these spots.
Speaker 1: As we're discussing, Yeah, I think the one person who
Speaker 1: I think I would have been on the fence. So like,
Speaker 1: let's maybe look at guys that we would say on
Speaker 1: the fence. I say Tyrese Maxey certainly on the fence,
Speaker 1: simply because I don't think that he was prepared to
Speaker 1: shoulder the load as much as he has and especially
Speaker 1: as well too with the presence of Paul George. Again,
Speaker 1: this is why I was not completely like I'm not
Speaker 1: saying this, you know, as it pertains to this was
Speaker 1: about Tyrese Maxey being an All Star. What I think
Speaker 1: what I was alluding more to was, is Tyrese Maxey
Speaker 1: prepared to be that, say Jalen Brunson of the team
Speaker 1: where he can continue to elevate and score the basketball
Speaker 1: the way that he does while setting up Joel Embiid
Speaker 1: and Paul George for success and unfortunately, the injuries that
Speaker 1: Paul George and Joel Embiid have suffered, have marginalize his
Speaker 1: ability to be a really quality floor general because while
Speaker 1: he's doing it now with you know, with role players,
Speaker 1: which you know, you can make the argument, Man, that's
Speaker 1: tough setting for a kid that you know clearly is
Speaker 1: on the uptick. I think that's what's gonna wind up
Speaker 1: hurting him, and it's going to put him on the
Speaker 1: fence because he did get injured himself as well too,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of struggled as far as shooting the
Speaker 1: basketball goes. A lot of that is because it's an
Speaker 1: inherent bad situation, so to speak, because he's not been
Speaker 1: able to work with the true, you know team that
Speaker 1: he was supposed to be working with, just for us
Speaker 1: to really gauge and see is he that guy? I
Speaker 1: still think that he is, But I just don't think
Speaker 1: that this will be the year that he winds up
Speaker 1: getting in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that has to be okay, especially
Speaker 3: given the record. Yes, he's played thirty seven games and
Speaker 3: you know, he's been there, you know, for a good
Speaker 3: majority of what they've done, and he's he's on a
Speaker 3: terrific tear as we're even discussing it right now, you know,
Speaker 3: He's over twenty twenty eight points per game for the
Speaker 3: last I think ten games in a row or something
Speaker 3: like that or whatever he's averaging I think twenty eight
Speaker 3: points something for the season. He's really but caring a
Speaker 3: load that he just shouldn't be caring. I think with
Speaker 3: the help that was supposed to be in total Piladelphia.
Speaker 1: Maybe next year, my guy, Maybe next year the one
Speaker 1: person I will say, Sew that I know you hadn't
Speaker 1: made mention of, but I kind of want to make
Speaker 1: sure I give him his flowers too. And it really
Speaker 1: sucks because again the formatting. You know, I don't want
Speaker 1: to I want to get on my soapbox again. But
Speaker 1: Josh Hart, what can we say about this guy? How
Speaker 1: do we not find a way for this guy to
Speaker 1: not be considered all star worthy or all star? You
Speaker 1: know again, I know that we give credence to players
Speaker 1: because for the team he is such a valuable person,
Speaker 1: but I think it also resonates with that same type
Speaker 1: of value when you have a team as successful as
Speaker 1: the New York Knicks. I'm not saying you got to
Speaker 1: have three guys in there, and clearly Karl Anthony Towns
Speaker 1: and Jalen Brunson. Are those dudes, you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But when you look at what Josh Hart is especially
Speaker 1: doing for his position, his role, I know that we're saying.
Speaker 1: You know, when we talk about six Man of a Year,
Speaker 1: these are the kind of things that I think resonate
Speaker 1: with a guy being considered six Man of a Year
Speaker 1: and him that all year long.
Speaker 2: How is that not considered you know, all star worthy?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Again, we may have to redefine what this is supposed
Speaker 1: to mean, but in the end, I'm just more cureous,
Speaker 1: you know, concerned that we're not giving enough credit to
Speaker 1: some of these particular you know, players who are doing
Speaker 1: that kind of work that I just considered would be
Speaker 1: All Star worthy.
Speaker 3: Josh Hatter is an All Star in my mind. I
Speaker 3: think if you go to your opening monologue about what
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Speaker 3: what he means to this team, what he does as
Speaker 3: in terms of like he's probably the the the epitome
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Speaker 3: as you know, so I would be I'd be over
Speaker 3: the moon if he were able to get an All
Speaker 3: Star not as a result of it. I just don't
Speaker 3: think that where this is going to trend for despite
Speaker 3: how well he's played this year in that starting role
Speaker 3: that a lot of people weren't sure if he was
Speaker 3: going to start as much as this year, but he's
Speaker 3: been able to do that. And you know, whatever it is,
Speaker 3: you know, I think eight triple doubles this season or
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Speaker 1: NBA Podcast. Time for us to shift our attention now
Speaker 1: to the Western Conference. We're going to try to predict
Speaker 1: who we think are going to be the reserve players
Speaker 1: for the West. Just to give it a little bit
Speaker 1: of background, down show the Western Conference starters Steph Curry,
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, Shay Gillis, Alexander Lebron James, and Nicola Jokic.
Speaker 1: I found this to be a more fascinating starting line
Speaker 1: up because it pretty much but the exception maybe Kevin Durant,
Speaker 1: but what pretty much speaks to is yeah, this seems
Speaker 1: a little bit right, and maybe Steph Curry. I think
Speaker 1: Steph Curry has had someone of a down year in
Speaker 1: comparison to what his previous years are and where the
Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors are clearly there's been a lot of
Speaker 1: strong even though he's the best player on that team.
Speaker 1: It's interesting Sean though, because now you start focusing on
Speaker 1: the reserves, do you find or do do you think
Speaker 1: that there's an easier path forward to determining how the
Speaker 1: West reserves will be will be predicted?
Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit more difficult because there's
Speaker 3: so much variance between especially you have to get past okay, see,
Speaker 3: and then all those other teams are starting to kind
Speaker 3: of bunch up together, and we have some surprise teams
Speaker 3: in here. Without giving it away just just yet, but
Speaker 3: to answer your question is like, what do you do
Speaker 3: with the team like Houston? What do you do a
Speaker 3: team kind of like Memphis? Like John is an All
Speaker 3: Star but as he played enough games. Those are kinds
Speaker 3: of conversations that make it really tough when it comes
Speaker 3: to the Western Conference. And then when you have those
Speaker 3: like those legends, those luminaries, if you will, of Steph
Speaker 3: Kadi and Lebron like all right, Like they just kind
Speaker 3: of have to be in the starting lineup because that's
Speaker 3: just this is who we know, this is who we
Speaker 3: the this is the generation of the NBA that many
Speaker 3: of us, many of the fan groups of today, and
Speaker 3: that's who they've grown up with. So the West is very,
Speaker 3: very difficult. It makes for some intriguing conversation because there's
Speaker 3: more snubs, there's more guys with the talent level that
Speaker 3: probably again should qualify, but there's just not enough spots,
Speaker 3: you know, when you've taken into all the variables that
Speaker 3: you need to take into consideration.
Speaker 2: I find I agree, but I'm gonna push back a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 1: I think it might be a little bit more clearer
Speaker 1: just because of the level of injuries that a lot
Speaker 1: of the star players have suffered. I just think maybe
Speaker 1: we're afraid to pull the trigger on saying this guy
Speaker 1: is worthy of being an All Star and because again,
Speaker 1: what are we looking at. Are we looking at their
Speaker 1: overall body of work, comparing what they've did in previous
Speaker 1: years to what they're showing you now, and if it
Speaker 1: measures somewhere close in that range, he's still deserving Or
Speaker 1: are we just saying that, like, look, man, there are
Speaker 1: other guys who've put in more games, more effort in time,
Speaker 1: their teams are clearly a little bit more successful. Well,
Speaker 1: why not go ahead and say that person's look. For example,
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid to say that a guy like Jalen
Speaker 1: Green should be deserving of an All Star if he
Speaker 1: clearly has shown you he's one of the more exciting
Speaker 1: players in his numbers of incrementally better, and he's attributed
Speaker 1: to the Houston Rockets being one of the best teams
Speaker 1: in the Western Conference. But again, when you compare his
Speaker 1: numbers to say, the ones have already always get put
Speaker 1: in that conversation. Are those numbers comparable? Are those numbers
Speaker 1: considered All Star worthy? I don't think the question would
Speaker 1: be had if John Morant had enough games under his belt,
Speaker 1: but I would not be afraid to pick him over
Speaker 1: say John Moran if John Moran hasn't played enough games,
Speaker 1: even though when he's on the court he could arguably
Speaker 1: be you know, All Star worthy in the blink of
Speaker 1: the blink of a hat. But outside of that, I
Speaker 1: would not snub a guy like Jalen Green for being
Speaker 1: available because they say the best ability is your availability.
Speaker 1: And some of these guys clearly just have been available,
Speaker 1: and that's okay. John Murran is gonna be All Star
Speaker 1: for like fifteen times over twice on Sunday whenever we
Speaker 1: feel like it's just he's not in a position to
Speaker 1: have that, say, per se, even though I know we
Speaker 1: would want him to.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it's again, it's always a matter of perspective.
Speaker 3: So I think, without you know, delaying, as you outlined
Speaker 3: the starters for this, my selections, if it were me picking,
Speaker 3: I have Anthony Edwards and Darn Fox at the guard spots.
Speaker 3: Fox is a very very is the shakiest of my
Speaker 3: selections here. The Kings have really kind of come on
Speaker 3: here in the last two and then again it's always
Speaker 3: the issue of do you need two Kings and between
Speaker 3: Fox and sa Bonus, But because of some of my
Speaker 3: front court selections, Sabonus does not get on there Smoiller alert.
Speaker 3: So I got Edwards and Fox. I got Wemby as
Speaker 3: the runaway guy, you know, in terms of who needs
Speaker 3: to be on there in the front court spot. And
Speaker 3: then because of the jav factor in Memphis, Jaron Jackson
Speaker 3: has been the most consistent and most available, you know
Speaker 3: for them, averaging twenty three game. You know, he's never
Speaker 3: been a plus plus rebounder, but six and a half rebounds,
Speaker 3: getting a block and a steel, like, he's been really
Speaker 3: important to what Memphis has done and has been there.
Speaker 3: If Anny Davis, I think speaks kind of for himself.
Speaker 3: And then my wildcards get into that aspect of what
Speaker 3: we're talking about a little bit. In the Eastern Conference
Speaker 3: a little while ago. I think the Rockets deserve a guy.
Speaker 3: It's interesting that you you know, you went with Jalen Green.
Speaker 3: I'm going with Shangoon. I think as the guy.
Speaker 2: There, absolutely the best player, no no question.
Speaker 3: It makes sense for them, So he fits my first
Speaker 3: wildcard spot. And then the aspect of okay, see just
Speaker 3: really budgeting the rush of the Western Conference, I think
Speaker 3: they need a second guy. And then that's where my
Speaker 3: guy Jaalen Williams gets on here too. But you know,
Speaker 3: he's he's he's shaky because I think he's had he's
Speaker 3: had moments. He's averaging over twenty game, you know, like
Speaker 3: counting stats are there, but there is a lot of
Speaker 3: talent in the Western Conference that I'm now omitting as
Speaker 3: a result, especially when you're thinking about it from a
Speaker 3: wildcard spot, so that leads me with no Kyrie, That
Speaker 3: leads me with no so Bonus and some other big
Speaker 3: names out there in the Western Conference, you know, Sames
Speaker 3: Harden and what the Clippers are doing, Like you know.
Speaker 1: That, I'm surprised that that one I'm a little surprised by.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you're not pro James Harden. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying I am a little surprised that you wouldn't
Speaker 1: go with James Harden because by all accounts, James harden
Speaker 1: availability and his numbers are really not that shabby. Again,
Speaker 1: when you put it in comparison to the other people
Speaker 1: that are playing in his position, Like I could make
Speaker 1: the argument that James Harden probably should be a starter
Speaker 1: over Steph Curry, but not saying that Steph Curry's numbers
Speaker 1: are not you know, commendable, They're great, but again in
Speaker 1: the landscape of what you're seeing from what he's been
Speaker 1: currently doing performance wise, and again this is all the
Speaker 1: way up going to the NBA, going up to NBA
Speaker 1: All Star Weekend. I'm just saying that, like Harden has
Speaker 1: you know, puts up some pretty gaudy numbers, monster numbers,
Speaker 1: and the Clippers are still hanging around. You know, if
Speaker 1: if not a starter, I would see him more so
Speaker 1: as a as as clearly as a as a reserve.
Speaker 1: I would think that Clippers should at least have one.
Speaker 2: But you might go Zubac, you might go you know, hey, yeah.
Speaker 3: I like and I like Zoo as well too. I
Speaker 3: think he's He's been severely underrated his entire career, but
Speaker 3: this season he's really stepped into it. So I think, again,
Speaker 3: not to split hairs, but the Clippers are doing better
Speaker 3: than Sacramento is for the majority part of the season,
Speaker 3: even up to this point. So if you would have
Speaker 3: said Harden makes it in over Fox and Fox ends
Speaker 3: up getting snubbed, then I can't really be mad at that.
Speaker 3: But that means Fox and Sabonis don't get on the team,
Speaker 3: and I feel like for what they both contribute, that's hard,
Speaker 3: you know, And I think with with with the Clippers,
Speaker 3: you know, I again, I love what Harden is doing.
Speaker 3: Zoo's been amazing. I think, tylu he serves as much
Speaker 3: credit for the clippers success as anybody else does as
Speaker 3: well too. But I can't fight you on the hardened
Speaker 3: thing again, if you wanted to sub out Fox for Harden,
Speaker 3: I would say hey bye by all means, just understanding
Speaker 3: that neither king would actually get.
Speaker 2: On the roster.
Speaker 1: Well, I actually I hate to say this because I
Speaker 1: and I know you'd fight me on this. I would
Speaker 1: rather see Sabonis in there before Fox, right. And again,
Speaker 1: this is why I don't like the I don't like
Speaker 1: the idea of of you know, two front court or
Speaker 1: three front court, two guard, Like I don't care for that,
Speaker 1: Like you're all sorry, you're an all star, get get
Speaker 1: rid of the front court.
Speaker 2: Is it's really about the player? Yeah, exactly, so, as you.
Speaker 1: Know, as far as I'm concerned, I've just thought that
Speaker 1: Sabonis's play while Digaron Fox was going through his struggles, right,
Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter if.
Speaker 3: It's so, because like I'm not going to fight you
Speaker 3: on the Fox or Sibonis thing. One of those guys
Speaker 3: is interchangeable for me. And then even the aspect of
Speaker 3: heart and over Fox, but like I said, they both
Speaker 3: can't get on. But what I do want to question
Speaker 3: you one then, because where I'm right to have trouble
Speaker 3: is the Jalen Williams thing. So do you believe that
Speaker 3: two Thunder guys should be on there, because then that's
Speaker 3: what I think.
Speaker 1: Jaalen Williams is having an awesome year. I think I
Speaker 1: think Jayleen Wiins is having an awesome year. Awesome, okay, and.
Speaker 3: It would be having a more awesome year than I
Speaker 3: think he's.
Speaker 1: Let me put it like this, I think he's having
Speaker 1: a much more awesome year than Jaron Jackson Junior. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that Jared Jackson Junior shouldn't be in consideration.
Speaker 1: Jared Jackson Junior is really playing well, but he is
Speaker 1: I think from a defensive perspective, and I think defense
Speaker 1: still should count for something. Jared Jackson Junior has not
Speaker 1: nearly been as contributory from the defensive side of things
Speaker 1: as much as he's been to the offensive side of things.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the overall game.
Speaker 1: Jalen Williams, by leaps and bounds, is responsible for the
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City Thunder being one of the top three teams
Speaker 1: defensively because of his absolute versatility and the ability to
Speaker 1: score that basketball. Being that second guy to Shay Gillis Alexander. So,
Speaker 1: if we're up to me, no question, Jayalen Williams can
Speaker 1: the person I think I was going to be on
Speaker 1: defence with a little bit more so was Jared Jackson
Speaker 1: Junior because of the fact that he got injured and
Speaker 1: when he's come back, no doubt he is the second
Speaker 1: best and I think at times arguably is one of
Speaker 1: the best scorers on that team, while Josh still gets.
Speaker 2: His legs underneath him.
Speaker 1: But defensively, I don't see I don't see nearly as
Speaker 1: much of the conc contributions that he makes that he
Speaker 1: was doing in previous years. And that's easily why I
Speaker 1: would put Victor Womanyama in there, and I would easily
Speaker 1: put Anthony Davis in there.
Speaker 2: No question.
Speaker 1: The person I think I would have been on the
Speaker 1: fence about has been Jaron Jackson about that. But again,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be mad if he doesn't get in, but
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be like all up in arms if he
Speaker 1: gets in and say the guys I'm talking about don't
Speaker 1: get in because of it.
Speaker 3: So I mean, that's tough. I mean, the Grizzlies are
Speaker 3: fifth in defensive rating this year. He is their anchor
Speaker 3: of that defense. He has the best defensive rating on
Speaker 3: their team. A ring a steel in a block steal,
Speaker 3: in a half.
Speaker 1: But that's why I guess that to your point, to
Speaker 1: your point, you got me, I guess to your point,
Speaker 1: this is why you're saying that it is a much
Speaker 1: tougher path to delineate who's gonna come in as the reserves.
Speaker 2: I get, I can, I will.
Speaker 1: I will concede to that point on that, on that
Speaker 1: one Shaw just simply because of the guys that were
Speaker 1: highlighting in that that conversation, that discussion for yes, okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just start to interweave, you know, the conversation.
Speaker 3: It's like, all right, well this guy, do you value this,
Speaker 3: do you want that or whatever. We haven't even talked
Speaker 3: about Devin Booker. I mean, yes, the Phoenix Suns have
Speaker 3: been you know, disappointment.
Speaker 1: Well do you think do you think do you think
Speaker 1: I think it's the injury. But do you think that
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant should be a starter over Devin Booker?
Speaker 3: No, I don't think. I think I think Wemby could
Speaker 3: have should have gotten that spot, and Durant is still
Speaker 3: an All Star. But you know, yeah, this is this
Speaker 3: is the combination of the fans, the coaches, and the
Speaker 3: players who make that who make that determination. So KD
Speaker 3: legacy wise kind of gets in. But I think Wemby
Speaker 3: has been more available and you know, should have started
Speaker 3: alongside Joker and Lebron you know this this year. But again, Kevin,
Speaker 3: Kevin Durant had an amazing season.
Speaker 1: So look, and I'm not taking anything away from it. Again,
Speaker 1: all star worthy, right, And I guess if all Stars
Speaker 1: all Star starters, right like it is he considered, should
Speaker 1: it be considered All Star starter? And you know what
Speaker 1: it is, shaw, I think when we got away from
Speaker 1: the position right now, we're in this era of positionless basketball,
Speaker 1: we're just lumping together the skill sets of all of
Speaker 1: these players, and then I guess just maybe looking at
Speaker 1: these numbers and analytics and just saying okay, and then
Speaker 1: I think the outlier is what do the fans think?
Speaker 2: You know here? Let me give you some crumbs to that.
Speaker 1: But I think that's part of the reason where we've
Speaker 1: gotten away from putting the onus on fans doing their
Speaker 1: due diligence in order for them to really appreciate what
Speaker 1: those numbers are supposed to mean as it compares to
Speaker 1: what the players are actually doing on that basketball court,
Speaker 1: not just for their teams, but also for the conference
Speaker 1: in and of itself among their contemporaries, because I agree
Speaker 1: with you, I don't see in a world where it
Speaker 1: makes sense that Victor women Yama should not be considered
Speaker 1: a starter, even though it's because what the San Antonio
Speaker 1: Spurs are not a top five team in the Western Conference,
Speaker 1: makes absolutely no sense. From fifteen twenty years ago, we
Speaker 1: have been having those same kind of conversations when you
Speaker 1: had the San Antonio Spurs that had David Robinson and
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I think once we get out of
Speaker 3: and I say this with a certain grain of salt,
Speaker 3: once we get out of the Lebron Curry kd era,
Speaker 3: it's going to be probably Wemby as a leading vote getter.
Speaker 3: I think as an ERA parent, Anthony Edwards could close
Speaker 3: in terms of the fan popularity vote like a lot
Speaker 3: of people like ant Man and a lot of people
Speaker 3: are just going to be forced to learn and understand
Speaker 3: the greatness of Webby. I think those two guys have
Speaker 3: the inside track once those other guys are out of
Speaker 3: the way to lead and vote getting doesn't matter. It
Speaker 3: doesn't mean that they'll deserve it every year, but they're
Speaker 3: going to command the popular potential vote one. Last guy,
Speaker 3: I want to talk about your thoughts on Kyrie Irving
Speaker 3: twenty five, five and five basically over forty percent from
Speaker 3: the three point line, you know, just under fifty percent
Speaker 3: from the floor. The maps, yes, haven't been what they
Speaker 3: wanted to be, and Luca bin Out obviously impacts that.
Speaker 3: But your thoughts on Kyrie not making my list or
Speaker 3: would you have Kyrie somewhere on this All Star All Star.
Speaker 1: I think Kyrie goes in even before Dianaron Fox. Quite honestly,
Speaker 1: to me, I'm sorry, Like again, I am not saying
Speaker 1: Adir and Fox's numbers are not comparable and are not
Speaker 1: worthy of And I think it's certainly helped him that
Speaker 1: the Sacramento Kings have turned things around since the firing
Speaker 1: of Mike Brown. But when I look at what Kyrie
Speaker 1: Irving has been able to do so far this year,
Speaker 1: his level of availability, the fact that he's literally had
Speaker 1: to shoulder this team while Donkicic has been on the
Speaker 1: mend and arguably with this conversation, changed somewhat if donkic
Speaker 1: And was a part of this roster. In the Dallas
Speaker 1: Mavericks say had more like ten more wins than what
Speaker 1: they currently have right now, would we be arguing about that.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at this and I'm saying Kyrie Irving
Speaker 1: should be an All Star, no question, whether you just
Speaker 1: started him or you put him on the reserves. This
Speaker 1: is one of the few years that even I'm not
Speaker 1: even just looking at his numbers specifically, but just looking
Speaker 1: at what his overall game and totality with the numbers
Speaker 1: translate to, I think it would be worthy of such
Speaker 1: now in a situation where it's absolutely flooded with guard
Speaker 1: play of everyone playing out their minds, yeah, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be upset or mad about it. But again, this is
Speaker 1: a scenario where I'm my mindset is if everything was
Speaker 1: all all, you know, wild card worthy, there would be
Speaker 1: certain guys that I just think, given what they're doing
Speaker 1: so far this season, would you surpent. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to be mad if Kyrie doesn't get in, but to
Speaker 1: be sorely disappointed because I do think with what he's doing,
Speaker 1: it should be worthy of it.
Speaker 3: Well, he brought up a great point that I will
Speaker 3: relent to because if I think even conventional wisdness to
Speaker 3: while I put Fox on my reserve, I think the
Speaker 3: political structure of this is going to keep Fox off
Speaker 3: of this, so that makes room for a hardened or
Speaker 3: Kyrie to kind of get on. Because you mentioned Mike Brown.
Speaker 3: The coaches are making these selections who have been the
Speaker 3: loudest people once Brown was fired to come to Brown's defense,
Speaker 3: it was basically every single coach around the around the league.
Speaker 3: And if they think even a hint that Fox had
Speaker 3: something to do with that, and he did, let's keep
Speaker 3: it a buck, that would probably hurt his chances to
Speaker 3: be selected now as a reserve by the majority of
Speaker 3: the coaches. So that probably ends for more of a
Speaker 3: Kyrie or hardened situation to kind of get in, and
Speaker 3: then we would see then if he Fox or some
Speaker 3: bonus gets in as some symbol as of a wild
Speaker 3: card selection. But that's why I'm interested to see, because
Speaker 3: do the do the coaches feel like the Rockets need
Speaker 3: need need representation, because then then Shuing Gooon doesn't get
Speaker 3: in and then you can put you know, all these
Speaker 3: other guys we've been talking about. The West is going
Speaker 3: to be really interesting to watch. So, yeah, I didn't
Speaker 3: have I didn't have an easy time with this at all.
Speaker 1: The West, I think is going to be interesting to
Speaker 1: watch and I think the West is going to have
Speaker 1: a lot more It's gonna have a lot more treading,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying for us to to really
Speaker 1: kind of look at and and understand when it gets released.
Speaker 1: You know, to your point, the Eastern Conference, maybe from
Speaker 1: a perspective of decisions, it would have been a little
Speaker 1: bit easier, but I think it's there's not nearly as
Speaker 1: many players that you would have to be arguing with
Speaker 1: to determine whether they are or are not worthy. I
Speaker 1: think you could just probably say the East allows you
Speaker 1: to kind of have more conversations of the current state.
Speaker 1: But I think the West definitely challenges exactly what we're
Speaker 1: talking about in what this is supposed to mean. And
Speaker 1: and you know, again, I'll go back to this. I
Speaker 1: want a person who's being acknowledged as an All Star
Speaker 1: to mean something. If if we keep talking about it,
Speaker 1: and we keep putting it as part of these accolades
Speaker 1: that we're giving credence to to a player and their
Speaker 1: legacy and whether or not it's factored into whether or
Speaker 1: not they make it to the Hall of Fame and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, if that's not going to be the case,
Speaker 1: if we're going to basically, you know, go by, you know,
Speaker 1: changing the discussion and errortive so much about this, I
Speaker 1: think it lessens it and and I think at some
Speaker 1: point we got to be like, Okay, he's also great, wonderful,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't know what
Speaker 1: that's supposed to mean, but that's that's nice in this
Speaker 1: situation and this because we have these conversations Shaw, it
Speaker 1: definitely forces us to challenge the status quo about why
Speaker 1: there should be a significance in making these guys, you know,
Speaker 1: all star and what that criteria really needs to be
Speaker 1: so that we're not sitting here fighting with the idea
Speaker 1: that the numbers of some of these guys are actually doing,
Speaker 1: especially in the Western Conference, are just being marginalized because
Speaker 1: we don't know what comparison we're supposed to use or
Speaker 1: determinate what determination needs to be made to say that
Speaker 1: they are deserving to be called as such. You know,
Speaker 1: it's weird because we have what all NBA, and I
Speaker 1: feel like at times All NBA seems to resonate more
Speaker 1: with players than it does about them being considered All stars.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, there's there's a lot of nu once that
Speaker 3: the way a lot of this is being decided, and
Speaker 3: so without the parameters in place, it lends to these
Speaker 3: consistent debates and conversations literally each year because we're all
Speaker 3: clamoring like all right, well we want we want to
Speaker 3: define criteria. And then we got some defined criteria last
Speaker 3: year for NBA you know, end of season awards, and
Speaker 3: like oh then oh we don't like that, No it
Speaker 3: was too hard. So again, right, we're I don't know
Speaker 3: if we'll ever really be happy, but this continues to
Speaker 3: give us some great content here on the baseline and
Speaker 3: all the other shows, podcasts and media that covers the league,
Speaker 3: you know, throughout us throughout his years. Man, this is
Speaker 3: just this is a wild situation. Then I know if
Speaker 3: there's an an insight into how will actually be solved?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, man, well per usual, another great show, another great
Speaker 1: topics of conversation and discussions. And yeah, you know, we
Speaker 1: want to know from you guys, who do you think
Speaker 1: will be snubbed?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Who do you see as being on the outs for
Speaker 1: this year's upcoming NBA All Star Extravaganza right, like you know,
Speaker 1: and will you go to the mat to just say
Speaker 1: that they are deserving as such?
Speaker 2: Like you know what I mean, like, I'd love to
Speaker 2: see that man.
Speaker 1: You know that's that's what they call a pro activation,
Speaker 1: pro activization. Love it once again, Man would like to
Speaker 1: thank you and yours for hopping on board with us
Speaker 1: for the baseline. Calie warren Shaw. We appreciate you guys,
Speaker 1: you know we do, and we'll catch up
Speaker 3: With you next time.