WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.280 --> 00:00:06.519 A Cast Classics. Sweet Bobby investigates Karata and Bobby, who 2 00:00:06.519 --> 00:00:09.919 have an unusual relationship. The romance might play it online, 3 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:13.439 but in many ways it's a traditional love story until 4 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:16.800 Kirat discovers the disturbing truth. 5 00:00:17.000 --> 00:00:21.839 That kind of reinforce the fact that I was right. 6 00:00:22.920 --> 00:00:24.000 I'd coote him retounded. 7 00:00:24.239 --> 00:00:27.359 To find out more about Sweet Bobby and other ACAST classics, 8 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:31.320 head to acast dot com Forward slash Classics. 9 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:41.320 This is Where Did the Road Go? 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Now join your host Sorayah on 19 00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:24.439 this week's edition of. 20 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:26.200 Where Did the Road Go? 21 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:30.599 And as usual, I am joined by my co host Luke. 22 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:34.760 Always a pleasure, and we have something pretty special for 23 00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:36.359 you tonight. We're going to get to in a moment. 24 00:01:37.159 --> 00:01:39.239 I do want to make one comment. Someone had left 25 00:01:39.280 --> 00:01:43.000 a comment off of that intro, kind of laughing at 26 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:47.319 the open minded or the question or skeptical question with 27 00:01:47.359 --> 00:01:49.680 an open mind, or however it's said in the intro. 28 00:01:50.239 --> 00:01:53.480 And as anyone who listens to this show knows, there 29 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:55.680 is a big difference between the people who call themselves 30 00:01:55.680 --> 00:02:00.359 skeptics and actual skepticism. Skepticism is not debunking, and most 31 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:03.840 skeptics are debunkers. At least the people who you know, 32 00:02:03.959 --> 00:02:07.280 go out and publicize themselves as skeptics are people trying 33 00:02:07.319 --> 00:02:11.080 to create a trying to keep the status quo. And 34 00:02:11.319 --> 00:02:14.719 a real skeptic doesn't necessarily set on any one idea 35 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:18.360 and take it as dogma. Real skeptic questions everything, especially 36 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:20.759 their own beliefs. So to be a skeptic in question 37 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:25.919 openly is exactly what a skeptic, a real skeptic, should do. 38 00:02:26.319 --> 00:02:29.599 And just in case anyone doesn't get that, because I know, 39 00:02:29.599 --> 00:02:32.159 the term skeptic is thrown around so easily nowadays and 40 00:02:32.199 --> 00:02:36.039 misused so easily by people who are complete debunkers who 41 00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:41.840 are not actually skeptics. So tonight we are talking for 42 00:02:41.919 --> 00:02:45.639 the first time with mister John Shooter, and are you 43 00:02:45.639 --> 00:02:46.000 with us. 44 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:50.319 John, I am. I guess that's me. Then that is you. 45 00:02:51.120 --> 00:02:54.719 And you have some research you've been doing along with 46 00:02:54.759 --> 00:02:57.319 your wife and some other people that no one really 47 00:02:57.360 --> 00:02:58.199 knows anything about. 48 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:02.080 Well some put in the UK no about it, but 49 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:06.439 most people in the States really have no idea about it. 50 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:10.479 And uh, this is a comet they came through on 51 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:12.000 and five sixty. 52 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:19.479 Two A d uh. Yeah, Okay, I'll come back to 53 00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:20.680 that date in the moment. 54 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:23.800 Okay, we need to we need to set the the 55 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:26.919 give us the setting and the the the way things 56 00:03:26.919 --> 00:03:27.639 were back then. 57 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:31.120 Okay, Well, the first thing I'm going to say is 58 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:36.000 that there are three dates for the comet or a 59 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:40.879 comic or several comics in the record. We're talking five 60 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:49.159 six two five, Oh dear, five five, three, four and 61 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:53.039 one two years later, and you'll find a lot of 62 00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:57.280 people who go looking for this comic get the wrong 63 00:03:57.360 --> 00:04:01.240 one and it get me fixed up a bit. So 64 00:04:01.639 --> 00:04:03.919 there was a lot of stuff in the sky around 65 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:07.639 those times. So I would just put a question mark 66 00:04:07.680 --> 00:04:09.759 over five to six to two. Maybe it was a 67 00:04:09.800 --> 00:04:17.800 few years earlier, So right now, the year five six two. 68 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:23.800 The Romans had basically disappeared not too long ago, but 69 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:28.600 one hundred years before. The Romans had come to Britain 70 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:34.160 largely for resources team copper, that kind of thing lead 71 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:41.720 training with the Cornish. Before them, the Phoenicians had been 72 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:46.120 doing that. The Romans took over the trade and they 73 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:50.439 were doing a roaring trade with the Welsh the Cornish 74 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:54.639 and taking minerals out. So they invaded England and they 75 00:04:54.759 --> 00:04:59.600 subjected most of England. They didn't actually get the bit 76 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:03.720 they were after, which was Cornwall, because they were a 77 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:08.639 fairly stroppy lot and put up a fierce fight. So 78 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:12.879 the Romans kind of gave up and just started trading 79 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:15.519 with them like they used to before and just slapped 80 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:19.120 attacks on it and carried on like before. So that 81 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:22.839 was pretty alright with the Romans, and they just left 82 00:05:22.839 --> 00:05:29.160 them alone and they started taking over Britain. Meanwhile, we 83 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:35.199 have a church being set up in the UK which 84 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:40.000 was probably I say it was before the Roman Church 85 00:05:40.120 --> 00:05:46.319 really got started, and we had a religious center centered 86 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:51.279 around Wells, Glastonbury and or Cardiff, which is just across 87 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:54.920 the River seven in Wales, I mean over here. That 88 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:57.800 makes a big difference now ones in Wales one side 89 00:05:57.800 --> 00:05:59.839 of the rivers in Wales the other side. Isn't it 90 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:05.040 a couple of miles across, It's quite looked, quite wide. 91 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:07.680 They've got a bridge over it. It's one of the 92 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:12.839 biggest bridges in the world. But nevertheless, you can get 93 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:15.079 from one to the other in a day and a boat, 94 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:19.399 couple of horses. It's not that far apart. So we 95 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:25.399 had a religious center going on there. The Romans kind 96 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:28.720 of came and went, and maybe they took our version 97 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:31.800 of Christianity with them and adopted it and melded it in, 98 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:36.000 and maybe they didn't. It doesn't matter. But nevertheless there 99 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:40.240 was an established English Christian church there which was has 100 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:44.720 its roots not anything to do with Rome, which will 101 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:49.759 come into play later on. So we have a bus 102 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:56.120 service running stuff into the far East from from tire 103 00:06:56.199 --> 00:07:02.839 and Sidon into the UK. That's still going pretty well, 104 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:06.079 pretty swimmingly. Everybody's making quite a lot of money. The 105 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:08.120 Romans have a lot of trouble with the Celts in 106 00:07:08.199 --> 00:07:12.160 northern Europe, who overwhelmed the walls again and again, and 107 00:07:12.199 --> 00:07:18.519 eventually the Legions have pulled out of Britain and Britain's 108 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:23.199 left to fend for itself. Also, we're told. So one day, 109 00:07:23.560 --> 00:07:26.839 I'm about fourteen, and I'm in school and I'm listening 110 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:30.759 to all this stuff. Okay, so the Romans have gone yep, 111 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:35.199 and then the Anglo Saxons and the Vikings and all 112 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:41.800 these guys came in Yep, and they built cities next 113 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:46.399 to the Roman cities. And I'm thinking to myself, being 114 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:50.319 a lazy fellow, why not would you do that? I mean, 115 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:55.519 You've got all this town and forum and Basilica and 116 00:07:55.680 --> 00:08:00.480 temples and stuff, and these guys come along, and I'm 117 00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:06.240 told they build Viking cities, Anglo Saxons, well we call 118 00:08:06.279 --> 00:08:10.160 them cities small towns by today's standards, and they build 119 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:15.000 them next door to it, and they pull all the 120 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:18.480 stone out and they build these new towns. And I'm 121 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:23.040 sitting there thinking to myself, I'm a lazy fellow. I 122 00:08:23.040 --> 00:08:26.800 would just go in, take the place over, get some paint, 123 00:08:27.959 --> 00:08:30.360 put a few roses around the door, call it home, 124 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:32.279 fishbash boss, job done. 125 00:08:32.399 --> 00:08:35.159 I mean, and you see that around the world too. 126 00:08:36.679 --> 00:08:41.000 Well yeah, but in this case, I'm thinking, well, well, 127 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:45.120 why would they do that? I Mean, it's only one 128 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:48.759 hundred this comet arrived in five six two a d. 129 00:08:49.639 --> 00:08:55.240 Or ten years earlier or thereabouts, And so were are 130 00:08:55.320 --> 00:08:59.360 you talking about one hundred years after the Romans move out? Now? 131 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:03.320 Do you look around in any of your old established cities, 132 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:06.639 you know, Boston, whatever, on the east coast and one 133 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:09.960 hundred year old buildings holding up pretty well. The roof's 134 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:13.000 still on probably, and if it's not, you could fix it. 135 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:18.840 But they didn't. They built stuff next door. And that 136 00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:23.519 always puzzled me. And I was told, well, and as 137 00:09:23.559 --> 00:09:25.840 soon as the Romans went, all the roads went to 138 00:09:25.960 --> 00:09:30.000 rubbish and fell apart, and they didn't bother with it, 139 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:32.279 and they used their old tracks and maybe they used 140 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:35.759 the Roman roads and maybe they wouldn't. And I'm thinking, well, 141 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:38.240 I'm a lazy kind of guy. It's easy to fix 142 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:41.320 up a road than build a new one or use 143 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:46.039 an old one. What's going on? So that was always 144 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:48.240 sat at the back of my mind and I thought, 145 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:51.840 this is rather odd, this doesn't sound right, And then 146 00:09:53.480 --> 00:09:56.679 I don't know, now, it must be fifteen years ago 147 00:09:56.799 --> 00:10:00.679 or so. I started watching a channel in the UK 148 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:08.240 called Edge Media or the Controversial channel, which was belonging 149 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:11.080 to Edge Media. Great show run by a guy called 150 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:13.679 theo Charmers, and I still talk to to this day. 151 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:19.000 And he had a couple of guys on called Wilson 152 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:24.039 and Blackett, who really were the start of a lot 153 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:26.480 of the thinking and work I've been doing for the 154 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:30.720 last ten years or more in my spare time. And 155 00:10:30.799 --> 00:10:34.120 these are two guys, a Welsh guy and a guy 156 00:10:34.200 --> 00:10:40.000 from the north on the east side. They're very different characters, 157 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:44.279 and they get on like a house on fire, and 158 00:10:44.440 --> 00:10:47.279 they started digging around some of these mysteries. And I'm 159 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:50.200 sitting there and they said this comic. There was a 160 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:53.840 comic in five six two a d. And I thought, 161 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:59.759 I never heard of that. Yeah, And it streaked down 162 00:10:59.799 --> 00:11:04.799 break and set it on fire end to end, and 163 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:11.600 the place burned continuously, the whole country for eleven days. 164 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:13.240 Wow. 165 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:20.200 And I thought, well, this might explain quite a lot. 166 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:25.159 And then the other thing I didn't understand was we've 167 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:28.919 got Roman history running full till you know, you can 168 00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:35.600 practically go to any large building in the UK and 169 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:38.159 you can probably find out what was in it from 170 00:11:38.200 --> 00:11:44.559 some records somewhere, because the Romans were meticulous record keepers. 171 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:50.440 And the whole history stopped just after the Romans left 172 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:55.080 and basically, we hear the best part of nothing in 173 00:11:55.200 --> 00:11:58.840 July eight hundred or so when bed the venerab will Bead, 174 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:03.840 who was I guess from Viking blood that arrived on 175 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:07.679 the east coast of his parents did, found himself in 176 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:11.000 the monastery and he started writing the history of Britain. 177 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:15.200 And between those two dates there is almost nothing written. 178 00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:19.960 I was told in school between those two dates, and 179 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:23.720 we called those the Dark Ages. And after being almost 180 00:12:23.799 --> 00:12:26.519 nothing is written down, a few bits and pieces here 181 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:29.799 and there, until the Normans come along in catalog absolutely 182 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:34.519 everything right down to how many sheep and individual farms 183 00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:38.879 caught in the back end of nowhere. So all of 184 00:12:38.919 --> 00:12:42.919 a sudden we've got from everything being recorded until about 185 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:51.360 four sixty AD until somewhere around middle seven hundreds, almost 186 00:12:51.399 --> 00:12:55.000 nothing's recorded. And then there's a bit of a jump 187 00:12:55.000 --> 00:12:58.039 and the Normans write everything down, and we called those 188 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:04.039 the Dark Ages. So I started researching what this event was, 189 00:13:04.759 --> 00:13:08.799 the five six' to two commit And wilson And blackett 190 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:13.080 have done an incredible amount of. WORK i, mean it 191 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:17.960 is unbelievably. GOOD i can't give these guys enough. Credit 192 00:13:19.000 --> 00:13:24.600 they are, lampooned just like in your standard intro. SORAYAH 193 00:13:25.120 --> 00:13:30.399 i mean they are spurned and yet everything they've told 194 00:13:30.440 --> 00:13:33.000 me with the reference That i've checked, out AND i 195 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:36.360 haven't checked all of them, out because they have thousands 196 00:13:36.399 --> 00:13:41.080 of references in their, books unlike most of these wishy 197 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:44.639 washing THINGS i. THINK i Think signas is, THIS leo is, 198 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:47.480 that blah blah blah blah. Blah trust, Me i'm an. 199 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:53.399 Author these guys are full of, footnotes cross, notes references 200 00:13:54.360 --> 00:14:00.120 where these parchments, are which museum they're, in which parish 201 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:03.960 hall they're, in which floor they're, in which cabinet they're. 202 00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:08.120 In AND i tried a few, out not, many but 203 00:14:08.360 --> 00:14:13.799 they were exactly where these guys said it. Was SO i, thought, 204 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:17.320 okay well that's a good. Base now these guys got 205 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:19.960 in quite a lot of trouble with the. Authorities for, 206 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:24.919 well that's a whole different show and they ought to 207 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:30.159 be telling the, story but enough to say they got 208 00:14:30.279 --> 00:14:35.200 in quite a bit of, trouble right. RIGHT i, mean 209 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:43.399 these guys really upset the establishment because they started Rewriting british, 210 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:49.279 HISTORY i mean to the, core and strange things started, 211 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:52.840 happening like their. Houses their house kept getting burnt down 212 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:59.440 and it's their. Story you get old Of Alan wilson's 213 00:14:59.480 --> 00:15:02.679 if you can get you'll have a great, story, Right 214 00:15:02.919 --> 00:15:05.759 but that really has nothing much to do with the. 215 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:10.840 Comet apart from these guys did basically all the spade 216 00:15:10.840 --> 00:15:16.240 work over twenty odd year's meticulous. Finding, now they weren't 217 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:19.360 trying to find a. Comet they were trying to find 218 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:25.080 the truth Behind King. Arthur what all that was about 219 00:15:25.120 --> 00:15:27.759 the Famous King. Arthur they were trying to find out 220 00:15:27.879 --> 00:15:31.799 about The Holy grail connected to. Him they were trying 221 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:34.559 to find out about The ark of The, commandant and, 222 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:38.559 well basically the whole of the alternative history movement is 223 00:15:38.600 --> 00:15:41.879 what they were trying to find out. About in the 224 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:45.720 middle of, this they trip over this five six two. Comet, 225 00:15:47.480 --> 00:15:57.679 Okay now the story starts somewhere In. Norway now The 226 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:07.360 norwegians now occupy about the left quarter Of. Scandinavia, yeah 227 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:12.120 but in those days they occupied most of What sweden 228 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:17.399 is today and with the top bit Of. Denmark but 229 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:22.440 that was not you know that that, well that's what 230 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:28.840 they did. Then and they in their, writings which had 231 00:16:28.840 --> 00:16:31.240 to be tracked down Through, iceland Which i'll come, to 232 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:36.000 they found a bright light appeared in the sky lit 233 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:40.519 the place up cast, shadows SO i guess it must 234 00:16:40.519 --> 00:16:44.000 have been. Dark and if it was, light it was 235 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:49.559 really light because this bright light was casting. Shadows it 236 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:53.559 comes screaming Over norway and it disappears in the direction 237 00:16:54.320 --> 00:16:59.519 Of Great. Britain and they called it The Great Britain. 238 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:03.360 Comic but Obviously i've got different words for it because 239 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:05.799 they've got their own. Language i'm not even going to 240 00:17:05.880 --> 00:17:10.359 start trying to pronounce their. Stuff it's just like herding 241 00:17:10.920 --> 00:17:16.279 herding cats or knitting. SMOKE i, mean it's if you 242 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:20.119 can recognize half of the letters in, it you're doing. 243 00:17:20.119 --> 00:17:24.880 Well so, anyway they've got this, thing and the story 244 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:29.880 went over and, well Actually i've missed a bit out 245 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:32.839 BECAUSE i started out with their with their, stuff and 246 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:37.680 they hadn't Mentioned. Norway these guys mentioned that it was 247 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:42.400 seen In. Scotland it was seen In Carl. Loyle, NOW 248 00:17:42.640 --> 00:17:46.759 i better people In america don't really know where many 249 00:17:46.759 --> 00:17:49.000 places are In, britain and to be, fair AND i 250 00:17:49.039 --> 00:17:52.880 don't know where many places are In. America but you 251 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:56.279 guys have seen pictures of THE uk and it's vaguely. 252 00:17:56.319 --> 00:18:02.279 Triangular and if you if you measure about halfway down 253 00:18:02.279 --> 00:18:05.880 THE uk and draw a line through. It that's almost 254 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:09.880 where The scottish border. Is most people Think scotland is 255 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:12.279 a little thing on the end Of, england but actually 256 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:17.240 it's a, vast, empty beautiful wilderness and it comes about 257 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:19.920 halfway down the length of THE, uk it really. Does 258 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:24.519 so draw a line about halfway through and there's a 259 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:27.440 very thin bit of THE uk there at that, point 260 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:30.880 and pretty much there is a place called Carl. Loyle 261 00:18:31.359 --> 00:18:38.839 it's just twenty minutes walk From Hadrian's. Wall it's right 262 00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:41.279 on the edge Of Hadrian's. Wall if you've ever seen 263 00:18:41.319 --> 00:18:43.960 that on the, map that's where it. Is there's a 264 00:18:43.960 --> 00:18:48.240 big report there that the comet was seen, overhead and 265 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:52.920 depending on your interpretation of the, words it will appear 266 00:18:53.000 --> 00:19:00.279 to have split into three pieces. Overhead Roughly Carl loyle was. 267 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:03.720 Low it was really, low and it scared that heck 268 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:09.359 out of. Everybody i'm sure right now this comic one 269 00:19:09.440 --> 00:19:16.079 piece went right down the length Of. Britain there was a, 270 00:19:16.119 --> 00:19:20.000 guy let me just make Sure i've got the right. 271 00:19:20.079 --> 00:19:25.119 Guy there's a guy In france Called gregory De, tours 272 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:31.279 and he WAS i think he worked in an abby 273 00:19:31.319 --> 00:19:34.359 and he was some sort of recorder and he wrote 274 00:19:34.440 --> 00:19:39.960 about this and a year later and there's quite a few. 275 00:19:40.039 --> 00:19:46.920 Reports there's thirty two reports Around europe describing, this this whole. 276 00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:50.640 Event this is not an isolated. Event it covers countries. 277 00:19:51.759 --> 00:19:56.640 Anyway this thing is swept Down england and it quote 278 00:19:57.319 --> 00:20:04.440 Sweat england with fire from end to. End, gregory who 279 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:09.400 was In, brittany which is across the, channel now that's 280 00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:13.839 a fair. Step that's about eighty two one hundred, miles 281 00:20:13.880 --> 00:20:17.440 depending which bit Of brittany and which bit Of england 282 00:20:17.559 --> 00:20:19.319 you want to, choose but you, know it's a fair. 283 00:20:19.359 --> 00:20:28.000 Step he, said the sky was like daylight for eleven. Days. 284 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:33.799 Wow and he was talking About. Britain he wasn't talking About, 285 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:41.160 france so he could see across eighty odd. Miles you 286 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:47.160 were mere glowing the sky for eleven. Days so the 287 00:20:47.240 --> 00:20:50.400 stories go that it set the place on fire from 288 00:20:50.559 --> 00:20:55.920 end to end and according to other, sources two million 289 00:20:56.000 --> 00:21:03.759 people round figures. Died, wow two. MILLION i mean that 290 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:07.119 that is a world class. Catastrophe but it all happened 291 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:12.839 pretty much isolated on one, island so it didn't get fed. 292 00:21:12.920 --> 00:21:17.200 In there aren't many apart from this Guy gregory Of 293 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:20.759 tours In. FRANCE i can't find any other eyewitnesses From 294 00:21:20.839 --> 00:21:23.920 france who said they saw. Anything nobody In germany saw, 295 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:29.839 anything you, know nobody in The. Frankish, well you, know 296 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:33.519 you want. Me it was a fairly, local like a, 297 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:37.160 channel you want, me something coming, down cutting a swathe 298 00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:42.240 probably eighty to one hundred miles across as it came Down. 299 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:45.799 Britain maybe, wider but it wasn't like hundreds of miles. 300 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:50.640 Wide it was fairly. Local and so it settled that on. 301 00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:55.279 Fire so many people were, killed and the king at 302 00:21:55.319 --> 00:22:01.519 the time. Survived he scrapes to gather what he can 303 00:22:01.759 --> 00:22:06.240 and he takes however many he, can and he manages 304 00:22:06.279 --> 00:22:09.359 to get across To. France the FIRST i thought he 305 00:22:09.480 --> 00:22:12.200 went To, normandy because that's the obvious place to, go 306 00:22:12.279 --> 00:22:17.079 because it's the nearest. Point but they. Didn't they set 307 00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:23.599 out Of, cardiff which is in, well Probably, caldiff and 308 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:27.359 god knows how many other places as. Well but they 309 00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:30.960 from basically south Of, england and they sailed across The 310 00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:34.400 channel and they ended up In, brittany about five thousand of, 311 00:22:34.440 --> 00:22:37.599 them a bit of a shock to The. French five 312 00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:41.480 thousand people is probably half of the population of the 313 00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:45.519 whole Of brittany at the. Time so they turn up 314 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:51.960 and the name of this king Is King, arthur and 315 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:56.759 he turned up with his. Knights now as soon as 316 00:22:56.799 --> 00:23:03.079 anybody Says King, arthur they get treated with ridicule and. 317 00:23:03.160 --> 00:23:08.039 Schools one of the main reasons for that is that 318 00:23:08.079 --> 00:23:11.839 there was a guy Called jeffrey Of. Monmouth Now monmouth 319 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:19.319 is An anglicized now town in the very south east Of. 320 00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:24.440 Wales it's pretty much Opposite. Bristol if anybody knows Where bristol, 321 00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:28.720 is it doesn't matter if you. Don't But jeffrey Of 322 00:23:28.759 --> 00:23:33.359 monmouth said about writing An english history one of the 323 00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:37.119 earliest attempts after The. Romans there was a guy Called 324 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:39.880 bede who had an attempt before that that will come back. 325 00:23:39.920 --> 00:23:46.119 To jeffrey Of monmouth basically wrote down the stories Of King, 326 00:23:46.279 --> 00:23:51.799 arthur and it would appear he got it all mixed. 327 00:23:51.880 --> 00:23:54.640 Up we're not all mixed, up but he got some 328 00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:58.759 of it mixed. Up as soon as you Mentioned King, 329 00:23:58.920 --> 00:24:03.279 arthur all their storians, go, Oh jeffrey of the Of, monmouth. 330 00:24:03.319 --> 00:24:07.839 Rubbish you can't believe. Him you can't believe a word he. 331 00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:11.359 SAYS i, mean If arthur was you, know the guy 332 00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:13.359 he says he, was he would have lived for four 333 00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:20.240 hundred years or, sorry two hundred. Years, well, yeah that's 334 00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:24.160 kind of. True he would have been you, know over 335 00:24:24.200 --> 00:24:28.079 two hundred. Years but one there were two King arthur's 336 00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:32.519 And wilson And blackett proved well to, me to my, 337 00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:38.160 Satisfaction they've got A welsh genealogy based out Of welsh, 338 00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:40.839 writing which a lot of people will tell you there 339 00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:44.519 is No welsh, writing but there Is welsh. Writing he got, 340 00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:49.599 banned really, no he got. Banned it got banned when 341 00:24:49.960 --> 00:24:53.000 basically The english took the place. Over they banned The welsh, 342 00:24:53.079 --> 00:24:55.720 language they banned The worlfs, writing and they managed to 343 00:24:55.799 --> 00:24:59.680 batter it down to well about one hundred and tent 344 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:05.960 and speakers from a huge. Number and they were trying 345 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:08.119 to wipe it. OUT i mean even WHEN i was a, 346 00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:14.200 kid they were trying to wipe it. Out and basically they, said, 347 00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:17.880 well we should all be Speaking. English now this is 348 00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:21.400 a bit of a, diversion but this is local to. 349 00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:22.000 Me in my. 350 00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:27.519 Lifetime The welsh were having none of, it and a 351 00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:29.799 lot Of english people who had a lot of money 352 00:25:29.799 --> 00:25:32.759 were going To wales because it's very cheap to buy 353 00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:36.319 a property because any way of earning any money if 354 00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:38.160 you're not in one of the cities is there a, 355 00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:42.039 sheep and there's no money in. That so people would 356 00:25:42.079 --> 00:25:45.319 come along and they would pay twice what the going 357 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:48.319 locals could afford by a place with a nice, view 358 00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:52.440 pay somebody temperance to look after the sheep or get 359 00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:56.599 rid of the. Sheep and you, know they were taking 360 00:25:56.640 --> 00:25:59.559 down all the Old welsh, signs and The welsh had 361 00:25:59.559 --> 00:26:02.960 a back and basically if you were An english person 362 00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:05.880 with A welsh, house they burnt. It they burnt it. 363 00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:07.799 Down they did a lot of. It they burnt a 364 00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:12.599 lot of houses down in the. Sixties wow and, yeah 365 00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:15.440 talk about a. Statement and now if you go To 366 00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:18.680 wales you'll find every street sign is In welsh And. 367 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:21.599 English and if they put one up only In, english 368 00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:24.119 it'll only be up ten minutes because somebody will chop it. 369 00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:28.400 Down NO i mean, really they will chop it down. 370 00:26:28.599 --> 00:26:33.880 Nice so they're very fierce Slot, anyway so The welsh hadow. 371 00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:38.480 Language The welsh had a written, language and when The 372 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:43.160 normans came in with the papacy and all the rest of. 373 00:26:43.200 --> 00:26:47.640 It they did their very best to forbid. Writing ban, 374 00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:51.119 it burn, it destroy it where it was on, rocks 375 00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:53.519 get rid of. It it's the writings of the. Devil 376 00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:59.200 wipe it, out ethnic. Cleansing they didn't manage. It quite 377 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:03.920 a lots of. Vine Alan, wilson there's a well. Speaker 378 00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:09.279 he managed to dig up things out of old parish church, 379 00:27:09.480 --> 00:27:14.640 records so all sorts of strange places, museums and managed 380 00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:17.880 to put an awful lot of this back. TOGETHER i 381 00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:20.839 won't get into the details of all the people who 382 00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:24.480 did it and who wrote. What but because we're beginning, 383 00:27:24.519 --> 00:27:29.519 Too i'm already behind WHERE i thought i'd be by. 384 00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:37.799 Now so so so so we have we have, this 385 00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:42.200 uh this. Report two million people. Died now what else 386 00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:44.799 do we? Know we know that if people went into 387 00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:50.000 the place where where this event had, happened and you 388 00:27:50.079 --> 00:27:54.880 drunk the, water you. Died if your horse drank the, 389 00:27:54.920 --> 00:28:03.799 water it. Died everything, died the plants. Died pretty much 390 00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:08.720 nothing grew there for depending on, sources eleven to fifteen. 391 00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:12.200 Years so you can imagine there's a recovery after about twelve, 392 00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:17.119 YEARS i guess. Yeah And King arthur's if you look 393 00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:21.839 in The King arthur, tales you'll find that these are 394 00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:25.799 referred to as the Bad. Lands, okay So King arthur 395 00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:28.519 goes across The, france keeps his head down till it's 396 00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:32.160 way he thinks it's safe to come, back and they 397 00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:37.119 do ventures into this dangerous. BIT a lot of them don't, 398 00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:39.839 survive and a lot of their stories that you've got 399 00:28:39.839 --> 00:28:44.000 From King arthur The second forays into, this a bit 400 00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:45.720 of a Mad max world if you. Like. 401 00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:55.519