WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.520 --> 00:00:05.400 This is the baseline. Discussing the hot button topics of 2 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:10.240 the nb A welcome everybody, your tune to the baseline. 3 00:00:10.279 --> 00:00:13.199 Cali Warrenshaw discussing the hot button topics. 4 00:00:12.720 --> 00:00:17.120 Of the NBA. The season is right around the corner. 5 00:00:17.120 --> 00:00:19.600 I mean so close you can touch it, you can 6 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:21.039 smell it. 7 00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:27.239 Ever freshets, Yeah, it's a good. 8 00:00:28.399 --> 00:00:32.359 Yeah, exactly that word that word too, because you know, 9 00:00:32.399 --> 00:00:34.439 I like to be making up words as well. But 10 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:42.119 it's kind of like, you know, grilling summertime right out 11 00:00:42.119 --> 00:00:45.960 in the yard with your people's you know, and they 12 00:00:46.039 --> 00:00:47.560 and they know you. 13 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:48.840 You're getting it in right. 14 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:53.119 You know, they can appreciate, you know what I'm saying, 15 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:57.079 the aroma of an exciting season on the precipice. 16 00:00:57.520 --> 00:00:58.359 That's what that is. 17 00:00:58.679 --> 00:00:58.880 You know. 18 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:01.719 As always, man, let me go and run out the 19 00:01:01.759 --> 00:01:03.880 red carpet to my right hand man. He needs no 20 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:06.200 introduction because he usually chimes in and hits me up 21 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:08.760 with the you know, reality check, my man, mister warren 22 00:01:08.799 --> 00:01:10.439 Shot rapping out of Fort Florida to Florida. 23 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:13.920 What's good, brother? Were ready for some NBA season. 24 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:18.439 We're ready for some NBA basketball, Ready for the dramatization 25 00:01:18.560 --> 00:01:20.840 that is the NBA. 26 00:01:21.079 --> 00:01:23.599 He know, we are, brother, It's it's that time of year. 27 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:26.120 It's the best time of the year. NBA is set 28 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:28.640 to tip off. We are about to start or whatever 29 00:01:28.640 --> 00:01:33.159 it is, our twelfth season, diving into the long process 30 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:34.840 of eighty two regularly twelve. 31 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:38.159 I thought it was lucky thirteen. That was Lucky thirteen. 32 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:41.840 No twelve, Okay, maybe I'm getting ahead of myself. Maybe 33 00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:46.319 maybe for us we need lucky thirteen for the you. 34 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:49.480 Know, well, the baseline is not going to stop anything, Okay, 35 00:01:49.519 --> 00:01:52.400 good keeping it pushing, So you know, we might have 36 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:55.200 twelve more years, thirteen more years, who knows, But you know, 37 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:57.640 another season here, twenty four or twenty five season for 38 00:01:57.680 --> 00:01:59.959 the league, and it's abound to be a good one. 39 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:02.480 We're coming off, you know, some personal highs because you know, 40 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:05.920 as fans, our team won the NBA championship, but there's 41 00:02:06.040 --> 00:02:07.439 it's going to be very hard for them to be 42 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:10.000 able to repeat. And there's a lot of conversation that's 43 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:12.479 going to be centered around this league over the course 44 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:14.199 of the next you know, seven to eight months here 45 00:02:14.240 --> 00:02:16.120 as we get into all the way into June, you know, 46 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:18.400 before we crown, we hope what would be a repeatd 47 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:20.479 champion for US, but the league has not had a 48 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:22.639 repeat champion in six years, So we'll see if that 49 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:23.599 trend continues. 50 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:25.319 As well as should you know, I think if we 51 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:27.719 want to really appreciate a team who does go out 52 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:32.840 and win the championship and really to you know, they say, 53 00:02:33.680 --> 00:02:36.439 you know, iron sharpens iron. You know, if there's an 54 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:40.080 expectation that we want to treat these Busts and Celtics 55 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:44.159 with the level of respect that these guys have obviously earned, right, 56 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:47.919 it can only be magnified by what they do the 57 00:02:48.039 --> 00:02:52.120 following season. So it'll be very interesting to see shaw, 58 00:02:52.360 --> 00:02:55.159 you know, like what version of the Boston Celtics come 59 00:02:55.199 --> 00:02:58.319 out the beginning of this this season. It'd also be 60 00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:01.479 interesting to see what the teams that have made a 61 00:03:01.479 --> 00:03:05.319 whole lot of noise in this off season to build 62 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:10.199 and structure a roster that is supposed to contend, compete, 63 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:13.759 and neutralize what the Boston Celtics were able to do 64 00:03:13.879 --> 00:03:16.520 last season. So all of that is going to come 65 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:19.800 into play in a conversation which leads us into this episode. Right, 66 00:03:19.960 --> 00:03:22.039 this is you know what I'm saying. I call this 67 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:25.240 the Faith Evans episode. We got questions of burning up, 68 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:28.120 you know what I'm saying, the burning questions that I 69 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:29.599 think a lot of people are going to be asking 70 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:32.599 themselves as we you know, get ready or as we 71 00:03:32.639 --> 00:03:36.560 walk into this upcoming NBA season. And while we had 72 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:41.039 some awesome guests on previously to help us preview the conferences, 73 00:03:41.240 --> 00:03:43.560 this is really what the follow up kind of feels like, 74 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:45.599 right Like I know, in most cases, a lot of 75 00:03:45.599 --> 00:03:48.039 people like to have shows that do predictions on you know, 76 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:50.199 who's gonna wind up poisting trophies, and we've done that 77 00:03:50.280 --> 00:03:52.800 even ourselves. We figure we take things a little bit 78 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:55.719 differently because these are going to be some of the 79 00:03:55.759 --> 00:04:02.120 ongoing storylines that will kind of more into additional storylines 80 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:04.319 of things that we're gonna have to follow and watch 81 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:07.800 and trend on as the season, you know, commences, the 82 00:04:07.800 --> 00:04:13.879 season continues forward. So great episode in conceptualization by Manshaw 83 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:17.399 and what we were thinking about, because I don't think 84 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:20.040 we don't get to this point without what happened last 85 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:23.040 season coming to fruition. I think we don't get to 86 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:25.800 this point until we've seen the kind of craziness that 87 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:28.000 took place in the off season, the trades that were 88 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:32.040 happening even in the midnight hour before media day, you know, 89 00:04:32.279 --> 00:04:36.519 takes shape. Teams obviously recognize the riding on the wall, 90 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:38.920 whether they think they smell blood in the water or 91 00:04:38.920 --> 00:04:41.160 whatever the case may be. Everybody is getting ready to 92 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:43.639 shoot their shot. And I think that's what makes it, 93 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:47.319 you know, an interesting episode for us to put down 94 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:49.959 a little bit, is to kind of really hone in 95 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:52.600 more on those topics that I think are going to 96 00:04:52.720 --> 00:04:56.399 kind of resonate with people as they're watching and following 97 00:04:56.439 --> 00:04:58.279 their teams and the season throughout. 98 00:04:59.399 --> 00:05:00.000 Yeah, I agree. 99 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:01.759 I mean, you know, shout out to Ekam and Grant, 100 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:04.720 those two gentlemen join us for our for our previews, 101 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:07.439 you know, but it's it's clutch time, you know, this 102 00:05:07.439 --> 00:05:08.120 this is our time. 103 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:09.240 Are we ready to rock? 104 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:11.079 Can kind of do and put our spin on things 105 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:13.639 only the way that the baseline can. So for us, 106 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:15.399 it's a little bit of a cipher session, you know, 107 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:17.399 tapping into our hip hop roots. 108 00:05:17.399 --> 00:05:19.759 We know with the burning questions, and I'm excited for 109 00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:20.279 this one. Brother. 110 00:05:20.399 --> 00:05:22.319 Like I said, there's some stuff out here and some 111 00:05:22.360 --> 00:05:26.240 of the questions, yes, they are typical. I guess maybe 112 00:05:26.279 --> 00:05:27.759 you know, for the formal standard but you know we're 113 00:05:27.759 --> 00:05:29.480 going to have our take on it for sure, and 114 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:31.120 some of the things that are again are indigenous to 115 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:33.680 us and questions that we specifically have going into this 116 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:34.800 twenty four to twenty five. 117 00:05:34.759 --> 00:05:37.160 The absolutely as always, be sure to get them my 118 00:05:37.240 --> 00:05:39.480 man Shaw at Shaw Sports, NBA, get at me a 119 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:41.519 game face, lead the shows, Twitter, hand A, NBA. Based 120 00:05:41.560 --> 00:05:43.399 on available and all the major platforms, you know where 121 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:45.519 to find us. 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Time 159 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:28.959 now for the breakdown, Cali Won't Shaw Basline NBA podcast. 160 00:08:29.240 --> 00:08:32.399 And as we're breaking stuff down, breaking it down to 161 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:35.759 the to the very last molecule, brayed us blow it up, 162 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:40.519 just incinerate stuff, you know what I mean, just burning questions. 163 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:43.320 So you know, these are questions that I think, you know, 164 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:48.639 between myself and Shaw or Shaw myself are saying to ourselves, like, 165 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:50.159 these are the things that we're thinking about as we're 166 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:53.080 getting you know, as we're embarking into the NBA season. 167 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:55.080 And a lot of this has also been driven with 168 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:58.279 the conversations that we've had through our special guests over 169 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:01.320 the last month or so in in lieu of what 170 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:04.480 was going to take place for this upcoming season. So Chayl, 171 00:09:04.600 --> 00:09:07.559 let's get right into it. One of the first burning 172 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:11.480 questions that stick out is which team in the East 173 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:16.600 is not green with envy and could actually beat the 174 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:17.559 Boston Celtics. 175 00:09:19.360 --> 00:09:21.559 Who is who is who is going to be. 176 00:09:23.080 --> 00:09:30.000 That devil devilish leprechaun to the Celtics. You know what 177 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:32.279 I'm saying, Who's trying to rob their pot of gold? 178 00:09:32.320 --> 00:09:37.080 Bro I mean, the short answer is to the entire East. 179 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:38.679 Now, I think that our question is the best suit 180 00:09:38.840 --> 00:09:40.960 is like again, it's like who is best suited who 181 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:45.080 actually could potentially make this happen? You know, injuries aside. 182 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:48.559 This is always assuming health for all parties, right, because 183 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:51.480 otherwise those are the qualifiers that proclude people for being 184 00:09:51.480 --> 00:09:53.120 able to do other things that they set out to do. 185 00:09:53.559 --> 00:09:53.720 Uh. 186 00:09:53.759 --> 00:09:55.679 The teams that made the most of the biggest splash 187 00:09:55.679 --> 00:09:57.519 in the Eastern Conference are obviously the seventy six ers 188 00:09:57.519 --> 00:09:59.240 in the New York Micks. But she talked about on 189 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:01.679 our Eastern Conference review and their ability in essence to 190 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:04.039 upset the applecart. 191 00:10:04.200 --> 00:10:05.559 Right can they catch Boston? 192 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:08.799 I personally think the Knicks are going to go so 193 00:10:08.960 --> 00:10:11.840 hard for getting a number one, number one seed. You know, 194 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:14.120 Tims is going to play guys throughout the course of 195 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:16.320 the regular season while we know Boston is gonna have 196 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:20.519 not have Perzinga stil December, maybe even January. Sixers are 197 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:22.639 already having issues, you know, and we didn't play any 198 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:26.120 preseason games for precautionary reasons. It also comes out and 199 00:10:26.159 --> 00:10:27.799 says that he will he may not play back to 200 00:10:27.840 --> 00:10:30.440 backs for the rest of his career, let alone this season, 201 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:34.399 and Paulo Paul George is already playing with the Bone Brewers. 202 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:37.039 Why do players make these admissions out in public? 203 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:38.919 Like it's just me. 204 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:42.960 I understand, Like, I understand that the intent of doing it, 205 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:45.720 you know, is to say something to speak more to 206 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:48.759 you know, I want people to understand I'm not trying 207 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:51.279 to be phony, fake or whatever, and I'm not taking 208 00:10:51.279 --> 00:10:55.279 anything away from it. It's but I oftentimes think, like, bro, 209 00:10:55.480 --> 00:10:57.600 this just is a bad look for you, right, Like, 210 00:10:57.679 --> 00:11:00.639 It's not like we don't know that you're injuries have 211 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:05.720 really hindered your ability to maintain the highest level of 212 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:08.120 play that you've shown us because you've won an MVP. 213 00:11:08.679 --> 00:11:11.919 But we also recognize as well too, that everyone believes 214 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:14.519 the only way that the Sixers will win a championship 215 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:17.279 is that you have to be at the highest peak 216 00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:20.799 of your physical abilities. When it matters the most, which 217 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:22.759 has never been the case for the time that he's 218 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:24.240 been a Philadelphia seventy six er. 219 00:11:25.399 --> 00:11:28.559 Yeah, I mean firm to say that is one thing 220 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:31.000 will come out in application that that remains to be 221 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:33.440 seen because I think everybody who's if you're following sports 222 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:36.320 radio or o their podcast, the questions are like, all right, well, 223 00:11:36.360 --> 00:11:38.000 in theory, if you're back to back is you know, 224 00:11:38.120 --> 00:11:41.159 Charlotte and Atlanta or Charlotte in Portland or something like that, 225 00:11:41.240 --> 00:11:42.519 then yeah, maybe you don't need to play. 226 00:11:42.639 --> 00:11:44.639 But if you're back to back is Boston and New York, 227 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:45.919 then you may want. 228 00:11:45.759 --> 00:11:49.200 To consider reconsiderative, right, right, So. 229 00:11:49.279 --> 00:11:51.360 You know, I think everything is with the grain of salt, right, 230 00:11:51.399 --> 00:11:53.159 But I think you know, those are the teams that 231 00:11:53.279 --> 00:11:56.559 you know, on paper, constructed themselves in essence to be 232 00:11:56.600 --> 00:11:59.200 able to take on the Boston Celtics by the roster 233 00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:02.200 moves that they made, getting more periminteral help on the 234 00:12:02.240 --> 00:12:05.759 wings and now trying to also add in theory some 235 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:08.200 some additional shooting, especially the Knicks trying to go five 236 00:12:08.240 --> 00:12:10.080 out and being able to space the Celtics, same with 237 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:11.440 the Celtics space everybody else. 238 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:13.480 So those are the two teams that kind of come 239 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:13.840 to mind. 240 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:15.919 There's obviously some other teams in here that feel like, 241 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:18.279 you know, they're probably being slept on, but I'll kind 242 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:19.919 of pass the eight to you in terms of your 243 00:12:19.960 --> 00:12:22.440 thought process on the Sixers, the Knicks, and anybody else 244 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:24.080 who might be able to beat Boston and the East. 245 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:29.639 I mean, the best equipped team I think would be 246 00:12:30.120 --> 00:12:32.759 the New York Knicks. And it's really not even just 247 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:37.679 for what they're trying to do offensively shaw as much 248 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:41.919 as what I think people can expect to see of 249 00:12:42.200 --> 00:12:43.679 the Knicks defensively. 250 00:12:44.360 --> 00:12:45.080 I feel like. 251 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:51.720 Where things can go awry is this false sense of 252 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:55.399 believing that Tom Thibodeau's is going to have an innovative 253 00:12:55.440 --> 00:12:57.840 way of getting the Knicks to suddenly just start scoring 254 00:12:57.879 --> 00:13:00.159 one hundred and thirty something points per game. I think 255 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:03.240 that's purely on the talent of what you have with 256 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:08.879 Brunson and with the Big Bodega. You know, it's hard 257 00:13:08.919 --> 00:13:12.000 pressed not to feel like the Knicks have the best 258 00:13:12.120 --> 00:13:16.360 type of roster that can compete against the Boss's Celtics, 259 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:18.720 whether or not they're going to be able to execute 260 00:13:19.080 --> 00:13:21.559 at that level. Given the fact that all of your 261 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:24.080 pieces are really new pieces to that puzzle. 262 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:26.159 That to me is going to be the bigger question. 263 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:33.039 The most formidable team from a matchup perspective, I feel 264 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:35.440 like could be the Milwaukee Bucks because of the fact 265 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:38.960 that you do have Dillard, I'm say Lillard and you 266 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:43.600 have Giannis together for as long as a season already 267 00:13:43.639 --> 00:13:47.279 ahead of the iterations that you're getting from the Sixers 268 00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:49.559 and the Knicks, and then you also maybe throw the 269 00:13:49.559 --> 00:13:51.399 Miami Heat into the mix. But I think a lot 270 00:13:51.399 --> 00:13:54.600 of that is really predicated on how aggressive vam Adebayo 271 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:57.039 is going to be for this upcoming season and what 272 00:13:57.159 --> 00:13:59.759 version of Jimmy Butler is going to be a part 273 00:13:59.799 --> 00:14:03.799 of the you know, Nicks. I'm sorry this this this 274 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:07.840 Heat version as well too, So it's it's kind of interesting, 275 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:09.320 and I know people are like, well, what about the 276 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:12.480 Indiana Pacers. I think that there's still the new kids 277 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:14.639 on the block. I still think that there's some proving 278 00:14:14.679 --> 00:14:17.600 to do. But I think when it really comes down 279 00:14:17.639 --> 00:14:20.759 to it, when you're talking about matchups and styles, most 280 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:23.840 well rounded team from my purview is gonna wind up 281 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:26.519 being the New York Knicks. But the biggest caveat with 282 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:29.679 that is you know, you're asking a lot of guys 283 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:33.159 to do a lot of things in a season in 284 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:37.799 which all of them are coming from different circumstances as situations, 285 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:41.159 and somebody's gonna have to make the ultimate sacrifice play. 286 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:42.879 And I don't know if there's enough time for them 287 00:14:42.919 --> 00:14:44.720 to be able to do that even in a season, 288 00:14:45.200 --> 00:14:47.559 given the way that the Celtics have shown us what 289 00:14:47.679 --> 00:14:49.440 they had to do in order to get to this 290 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:52.559 point just to win a championship, and you're asking, and 291 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:55.840 you're basically asking these guys to leap frog that formula 292 00:14:55.840 --> 00:14:56.840 of success. 293 00:14:56.879 --> 00:14:58.840 Hard pressed, hard hard, hard pressed. 294 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:00.919 But I think it's gonna to come down to maybe 295 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:04.360 the Knicks and possibly the Bucks, depending on what version 296 00:15:04.440 --> 00:15:08.919 of Giannis and Lillard actually come out this season cohesively 297 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:12.120 together and with the mentality in a mindset that they 298 00:15:12.159 --> 00:15:15.200 felt like they were being disrespected and not being taken seriously, 299 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:17.279 which they didn't do what they were supposed to do 300 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:17.840 last season. 301 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:20.399 Yeah, well, walk as to all of famers, and we're 302 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:22.360 going to get to them here in a short minute. 303 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:23.159 The next thing. 304 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:26.399 For me, I like that not only because of the 305 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:28.559 roster moves they made, but they also show a level 306 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:31.720 of grit and toughness that Celtics at times have seemed 307 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:34.480 to lock. Now, obviously they got over the hump, but 308 00:15:34.559 --> 00:15:36.960 New York has this ever tay Die mentality. The biggest 309 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:38.840 questions for me is not really the FC and their 310 00:15:38.840 --> 00:15:41.480 starting lineup. You know that's going to be solid, but 311 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:43.759 one of Brunson or Towns is kind of always going 312 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:45.320 to need to be on the floor. I'm just not 313 00:15:45.399 --> 00:15:48.200 sold on Bridges as a primary scorer. So if you 314 00:15:48.279 --> 00:15:51.480 can't have Bridges leading the offense, so to speak, I 315 00:15:51.639 --> 00:15:54.320 just don't. I don't think that's not for championship level 316 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:58.320 basketball at least, So Brunchon and and and Towns need 317 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:00.360 to be out there. And then if they staying an 318 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:02.519 injury to one of those two, then they do get 319 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:04.679 really really a thing. I know Ojan Andobi is like, oh, 320 00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:06.519 I could probably do it, but nah, bro. 321 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:09.720 This is this is exactly the reason to your point, Shaw, 322 00:16:09.799 --> 00:16:13.879 where I think the biggest indictment that I think you 323 00:16:13.879 --> 00:16:16.879 can make about this trade and getting the big Bodega 324 00:16:17.320 --> 00:16:22.720 is losing Dante DiVincenzo. And I say this people so 325 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:26.639 that people can really understand, you know what what you're asking, 326 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:33.440 you know, Karl Anthony Towns to do is essentially you're 327 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:37.279 asking him to be what you had gained through DiVincenzo, 328 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:42.159 who's while he's shooting was was great, awesome. Right, You're 329 00:16:42.159 --> 00:16:46.559 now saying that's you know, uh, pass the torch to Bridges, 330 00:16:47.080 --> 00:16:48.440 Pass the torch to Anobi. 331 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:49.000 Yeah. 332 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:52.240 I've said this before Shaw and maybe I just just 333 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:55.799 nauseate people and saying is those guys are volume shooters. 334 00:16:56.000 --> 00:17:00.200 Those guys need numerous touches to find rhythm to how 335 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:03.559 they score that basketball. You do not have the luxury 336 00:17:03.960 --> 00:17:08.119 of playing like that, even if you have Brunson and 337 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:11.240 you have the big cat on your roster, because those 338 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:14.440 guys are gonna need the ball, right, and now you're 339 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:17.319 asking Brunson to what, take a step back. You're asking 340 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:19.279 him to not be as aggressive. You're asking the cat 341 00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:20.960 not to be as aggressive because you got to find 342 00:17:20.960 --> 00:17:25.079 a way to get Anobi and Bridges, you know, into 343 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:28.519 the mix. Some guys may only need six or seven shots. 344 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:31.119 DiVincenzo was kind of that dude, right, Like he was 345 00:17:31.160 --> 00:17:33.640 doing so many other things to help out that he 346 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:36.079 opened up that ability for him to be able to 347 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:37.000 get that many shots. 348 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:38.559 But he made his shots. 349 00:17:38.839 --> 00:17:40.920 I don't know if you're getting that same thing, you know, 350 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:44.359 with with bridges and with Anobi even when they're healthy. 351 00:17:44.519 --> 00:17:46.319 And I think that to me is the one thing 352 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:48.279 that scares me the most when I look at this roster. 353 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:53.039 When you need guys with minimal shots to have access 354 00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:56.119 to can make the majority of them, you know who 355 00:17:56.160 --> 00:17:57.680 on the Knicks are they going to look at to 356 00:17:57.680 --> 00:17:59.480 to be able to do that? If not, you have 357 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:02.079 to put the own back on the Cat and Brunson 358 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:05.640 to shoulder that load and be efficient with their scoring 359 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:09.920 ability because teams like the Sixers, teams like the Celtics 360 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:13.279 are going to minimize the amount of touches that teams 361 00:18:13.279 --> 00:18:15.279 like the Knicks want to have for them to be 362 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:16.400 able to score the basketball. 363 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:18.759 Yeah, so I mean they have to be stars in 364 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:19.119 their role. 365 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:21.599 So with whatever shots they get, whether those be corner 366 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:24.440 threes or above the break threes or you know, slashes 367 00:18:24.519 --> 00:18:26.079 and you know, maybe getting out on the break a 368 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:28.640 little bit, I don't know. Bing bridges I think are 369 00:18:28.680 --> 00:18:32.759 the key to some level offensive consistency for for the Knicks, 370 00:18:32.799 --> 00:18:35.000 but they need to be set up. That's why I'm 371 00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:36.880 saying we're losing brunts or if they were to lose 372 00:18:36.880 --> 00:18:39.759 Brunton in any amount of time, they would really really get. 373 00:18:39.680 --> 00:18:41.079 Things, struggle to score offensively. 374 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:43.480 But that's not the that's you know, that's not talking 375 00:18:43.480 --> 00:18:46.200 about today right now. I think on paper, they are 376 00:18:46.200 --> 00:18:49.160 best suited. They have those level of toughness, They feel like, hey, 377 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:51.960 they could have been there last year. They are well coached, 378 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:54.440 and they're going to play their starters a crap ton 379 00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:56.599 of minutes. So as long as that doesn't get them, 380 00:18:56.720 --> 00:18:58.720 you know, in the infirmary award, I think the Knicks 381 00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:01.400 are going to be right there. The Sixers probably have 382 00:19:01.519 --> 00:19:05.240 the single most biggest domination threat in terms of EMBIID. 383 00:19:05.680 --> 00:19:08.759 But again it's always about the mentality and then will 384 00:19:08.759 --> 00:19:10.960 they be healthy you know when when when things come 385 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:12.640 up and then think about us too. Is like if 386 00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:15.680 the Celtics plays their cards right, two of these three 387 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:17.359 teams are probably going to play each other before they 388 00:19:17.359 --> 00:19:20.440 even get to Boston. So you know that's where things 389 00:19:20.559 --> 00:19:22.519 kind of land. So why don't we switch gears here 390 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:26.359 you now from this conversation and talk about your Milwaukee Bucks, 391 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:27.519 and why don't you lead us into that? 392 00:19:28.599 --> 00:19:33.079 So which team will stand on business? Which team will 393 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:38.599 channel their Marlowe Stanfield, right, they your name is your 394 00:19:38.680 --> 00:19:42.359 name right? No more of you know what I'm saying, 395 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:45.640 You know, petty hand to hand getting some props because 396 00:19:45.680 --> 00:19:47.079 you know, you made a couple of deals in here 397 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:49.079 and there and you got like your quote unquote Big 398 00:19:49.119 --> 00:19:52.359 three or whatever the case. Maybe now is the time, 399 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:55.279 right if you are the Milwaukee Bucks or the Phoenix Suns. 400 00:19:55.880 --> 00:19:59.240 To me, Shaw, this really comes down to which one 401 00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:01.160