Speaker 1: So the other day I found out that the CIA
Speaker 1: is preparing some kind of criminal referral against me, a
Speaker 1: crime report to the Department of Justice on the basis
Speaker 1: of a supposed crime I committed. What's that crime, well,
Speaker 1: talking to people in Iran before the war. They read
Speaker 1: my texts. So the crime under consideration apparently would be
Speaker 1: the Foreign Agent Act or something like that, acting as
Speaker 1: an agent of a foreign power.
Speaker 2: So I had an entire episode prepared for you guys
Speaker 2: based off of the past four days that I've been off.
Speaker 2: There has been a tremendous amount of breaking news stories.
Speaker 2: And last night, after I get done with post production
Speaker 2: for the episode, which we'll follow right after with this,
Speaker 2: I see a report come out from Tucker Carlson saying
Speaker 2: that he's being He has been for the third time
Speaker 2: that we know of. Obviously he's been spied on NonStop,
Speaker 2: but for the third time that we know of our
Speaker 2: own government. His own government has been spying on him,
Speaker 2: that is surveilling his communications. And obviously that would golling
Speaker 2: enough just if it was just that he's being spied on.
Speaker 2: But then it gets even crazier because Ryder died Trump
Speaker 2: sick event, Laura Loomer is taking credit for this. She
Speaker 2: is taking credit for his potential prosecution. A fellow journalist,
Speaker 2: a fellow American.
Speaker 1: Not too worried about an actual criminal case against me
Speaker 1: for a bunch of reasons. One, I'm not an agent
Speaker 1: of a foreign power. Unlike a lot of people commenting
Speaker 1: on US politics and global affairs. I have only one loyalty,
Speaker 1: and that's the United States and have never acted against it.
Speaker 1: It's interested for the only interests I care about, because
Speaker 1: I'm from here and I have a lot of kids,
Speaker 1: so that's not a concern. I've also never taken money
Speaker 1: from anybody, don't need it, don't want it, and that's provable.
Speaker 1: And moreover, it's my job to talk to everybody all
Speaker 1: the time and try and figure out what's happening around
Speaker 1: the world. That's literally what I do for a living,
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to stop doing that, nor should I.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm also an American talk to anybody.
Speaker 2: So what disturbs me most about this is that you know,
Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson has contacts with a lot of governments, a
Speaker 2: lot of foreign governments. He has contacts within Israel as well.
Speaker 2: He talks about it openly talks about all of his
Speaker 2: conversations pretty forthright and pretty open manner. That includes, perhaps
Speaker 2: to his detriment or to his endangerment, his conversations with
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, which he has been very open about, his
Speaker 2: frustrations and his disappointment. In fact, he went on friend
Speaker 2: of the Show and friend of mine, Brett Weinstein's show
Speaker 2: that everybody saw Brett Weinstein on Tucker Carlson, But I
Speaker 2: don't think most people have seen the episode where Tucker
Speaker 2: Carlson went on Brett Einstein. It came out the same
Speaker 2: day so on the Dark Horse podcast, and in it,
Speaker 2: Tucker really kind of lets the cat of the bag.
Speaker 2: He really goes deep into why he believes Trump ultimately
Speaker 2: made this decision, and I'll just cut to the chase.
Speaker 2: It seems as if he believes that Donald Trump was threatened,
Speaker 2: that he was forced into this, that he went against
Speaker 2: his will. So you should ask yourself, is this because
Speaker 2: he was having communications with the Iranians? Or is this
Speaker 2: because he has betrayed in scare quotes, the President of
Speaker 2: the United States. But even more disturbing, and as I said,
Speaker 2: all of this is disturbing, You've got if it's true
Speaker 2: that this CIA referral is coming as a consequence of
Speaker 2: an investigation because of a tip, a snitch line tip
Speaker 2: from Laura Lomer. Well, then we have a real problem
Speaker 2: because Laura Lumer should not be taken seriously because Laura Lumer, well,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be as safe about this as I can.
Speaker 2: She appears to not be representing American interests when it
Speaker 2: comes to her dutiful reporting, that's my opinion. So in short,
Speaker 2: what we have in our upside down funhouse image lunacy
Speaker 2: world is someone who appears to be in violation of FARA,
Speaker 2: which is the Foreign Agent Registration Act, that is, representing
Speaker 2: a foreign government when it comes to lobbying our own
Speaker 2: and doing so in an undisclosed fashion. Accusing Tucker Carlson,
Speaker 2: someone who, in my opinion, does incredibly quality journalists journalism
Speaker 2: and also is a legitimate, courageous truth teller the type
Speaker 2: that we absolutely need right now, and accusing him of
Speaker 2: what they are guilty of. Yes, accusing Tucker Carlson of
Speaker 2: being a foreign agent, as she has been doing for
Speaker 2: many months now when it comes to guitar. But now,
Speaker 2: if Tucker's correct that this allegation comes as a consequence
Speaker 2: of his conversation with Iranians just prior to the war beginning. Well,
Speaker 2: then it would be because he's in the employ of
Speaker 2: Iran or representing Iranian interests. As absurd and laughable as
Speaker 2: that is, that appears to be what's happening here.
Speaker 1: There are some people who are mad at me for
Speaker 1: my views about Israel, and they have some latitude. And
Speaker 1: one of the reasons they pass on criminal complaints in
Speaker 1: a fact, to law enforcement is to justify warrants for
Speaker 1: spying on Americans, So that is an absolutely real thing.
Speaker 3: But the main reason.
Speaker 1: They do it is to leak the existence of the investigation,
Speaker 1: such as it is, to the media and then humiliate
Speaker 1: and terrify the subjects of this op And that's of
Speaker 1: course happened to me repeatedly many times, including in famously
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, when I was still at Fox News
Speaker 1: and trying to set up an interview with Vladimir Putin
Speaker 1: and the NSA, I heard from someone there had grabbed
Speaker 1: my text messages with an American citizen and had leaked
Speaker 1: them to news outlets. Those texts were basically my attempts
Speaker 1: to set up an interview with the foreign head of
Speaker 1: state and they leaked them to The New York Times
Speaker 1: in order to stop the interview, which they successfully did,
Speaker 1: by the way, and they admitted that they were spying.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is not a fantasy, It actually happened.
Speaker 2: No theme throughout my show over the past six months,
Speaker 2: if not the past years, that I've become convinced that
Speaker 2: the vast majority of influencers are in the employee of
Speaker 2: either lobbyists foreign powers. They are not truth tellers but
Speaker 2: rather mercenaries. And a good example of this is with
Speaker 2: Laura Lumer that she just yesterday actually was in India. Yes,
Speaker 2: Laura Lumer in India. Laura Lumer, who has just drilled
Speaker 2: into Indians for years and years and years, appears to
Speaker 2: have been paid to go there and give a tome.
Speaker 2: Prior to heading out to India to give that talk,
Speaker 2: she deleted all of her very very hate filled messages
Speaker 2: about Indians before she got on the plane. But that
Speaker 2: didn't prevent this from happening.
Speaker 4: Slight study and speeches will be facilitated.
Speaker 3: Paul sent out.
Speaker 4: You then went on to say our country was built
Speaker 4: by white Europeans, not third world invaders from India. I
Speaker 4: think you should do more than just express regret. From
Speaker 4: what I can see, you're brazen d racist and Islamophobia,
Speaker 4: and I'm sorry to say that we have articulately DeVore
Speaker 4: Bama in this country where we welcome all. But your
Speaker 4: comment smack of anti Indianism was still Islamophobia and even
Speaker 4: worse racism, which has no place, ma'am in today's world.
Speaker 5: So get real, ma'am.
Speaker 4: Sorry to say that, but that comments are unacceptable to
Speaker 4: be as an Indian and as a world citizen.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: As hilarious as that was and is, it's also really
Speaker 2: disturbing because if she is correct in taking credit for
Speaker 2: these really slanderous, baseless accusations against Tucker Carlson, with it
Speaker 2: leading to a CIA operation to spy on him and
Speaker 2: ultimately refer him for criminal charges, it's disturbing, to put
Speaker 2: it mildly, that someone with a reputation like Lumer could
Speaker 2: lead to the unjust persecution and potentially prosecution of someone
Speaker 2: who I consider to be highly reputable in Tucker Carlson,
Speaker 2: someone who I consider to be tremendously important, particularly in
Speaker 2: this moment, particularly given his opposition to the war in Iran,
Speaker 2: particularly given his opposition to someone that he campaigned for
Speaker 2: and on behalf of for a very long time. And
Speaker 2: Donald Trump and Tucker goes on to make the point
Speaker 2: that this is to be expected in times of war,
Speaker 2: that you will have increasing hostility towards journalism, you will
Speaker 2: have a diminishment of our privacy rights, our rights, more broadly,
Speaker 2: our first speech rights, which is obviously what this is.
Speaker 2: And on a personal level, I take this very seriously,
Speaker 2: in no short part because I'm friends with Brett Weinstein.
Speaker 2: In fact, I got a call from Brett about a
Speaker 2: week ago asking me, well, I'm not going to disclose
Speaker 2: what we talked about, it's not that relevant. But regardless,
Speaker 2: in that same period, I now know that he was
Speaker 2: almost certainly scheduling his appearance with and his appearance of
Speaker 2: Tucker to be on his show in the following days.
Speaker 2: And now I know that Tucker Carlson was being spied
Speaker 2: on by the CIA, which means that based off of
Speaker 2: our completely absurd anti terrorism and homeland defense law, that
Speaker 2: would mean that based off of a connection that if
Speaker 2: you can normally, the way it's supposed to work, just
Speaker 2: so you understand, is that it's supposed to be that
Speaker 2: they have a right to spy on foreigners, not Americans.
Speaker 2: We are supposed to have privacy rights. I know it's
Speaker 2: a laughably absurd claim, but that is what our founders
Speaker 2: intended with the Constitution. But in the wake of nine
Speaker 2: to eleven, the way that they found a mechanism to
Speaker 2: circumvent our god given rights was to spy on foreigners.
Speaker 2: And if a foreigner had any contacts with an American, well,
Speaker 2: then they could then spy on them, because they're not
Speaker 2: spying on them, they're spying on them for the purposes
Speaker 2: of spying on a foreigner. That's the arguments pfable as
Speaker 2: it is, they take it one big step further than
Speaker 2: that by then enabling themselves to spy on anyone who
Speaker 2: the subject of the operation of the investigation has been
Speaker 2: communicating with, which means that very likely Tucker Carlson's communications
Speaker 2: with Brett Weinstein would also be under their purview, and
Speaker 2: therefore perhaps my communications with Brett would also be under
Speaker 2: that umbrella. Now I'm not particularly concerned about this because
Speaker 2: my communications with Brett are very benign and totally in
Speaker 2: pursuit of the best interests of this country, so I
Speaker 2: don't care. And additionally, I'm not at all concerned because
Speaker 2: already assumed that they were spying on all of us. So,
Speaker 2: you know, it's just kind of comes with the territory,
Speaker 2: particularly given the lane that I'm in and the topics
Speaker 2: that I cover. It would I would be naive not
Speaker 2: to expect it. It doesn't make it any less disturbing
Speaker 2: that this is where we are at as a people,
Speaker 2: that our government spies on us twenty four to seven,
Speaker 2: that our government tries to scare the living daylights out
Speaker 2: of journalists who are in pursuit of not just the truth,
Speaker 2: but in my opinion, perhaps even more importantly peace. So
Speaker 2: I'll wrap with this. I hope that you guys will
Speaker 2: stand up for and stand behind Tucker Carlson or Brett
Speaker 2: if they harass him, or me if they harass me.
Speaker 3: But I doubt it.
Speaker 2: I just I think it's really it's just a terrible precedent.
Speaker 2: It's a terrible paradigm to exist under that they would
Speaker 2: think that they could do this to us, That they
Speaker 2: think that they can essentially scare dissidence into being quiet
Speaker 2: and allowing for illegal, unconstitutional, disastrous wars to be perpetrated
Speaker 2: without any dissent. I think it's a sickness. I think
Speaker 2: it's a disease, literally, and we have to fight back
Speaker 2: against it, so I encourage you guys to do so.
Speaker 2: As far as I'm concerned, Tucker Carlson has done nothing wrong.
Speaker 2: There's been no evidence to the contrary that he has
Speaker 2: done anything wrong at all. So just keep that in mind,
Speaker 2: because I'm sure the reports are to be flooding your
Speaker 2: timelines over the next twenty four to forty eight hours
Speaker 2: as the story just broke a few hours ago, and
Speaker 2: I would encourage you to really reserve judgment until you
Speaker 2: know definitively what's up, because I trust Tugri Cralson I do.
Speaker 7: Iran does have a conventional military. They are a proud
Speaker 7: and they are a big cunt. Possible case scenario is
Speaker 7: Iran says, Okay, you humiliated us, You've killed all of
Speaker 7: our leaders. We're going to go make this a regional
Speaker 7: mess and try to get as many people involved as possible.
Speaker 3: They're going to go after Americans.
Speaker 7: They're going to go after Saudis, They're going to go
Speaker 7: after everybody imaginable, just to create a big mess and
Speaker 7: to try to draw the world into it. Just understand,
Speaker 7: the Iranian people are widely respected and not necessarily are
Speaker 7: always in sync with leadership. But if and when the
Speaker 7: people of Iran feel like Persia is being defaced and
Speaker 7: humiliated and disrespected, we don't know where that is going
Speaker 7: to go. And that's my final reason why I am
Speaker 7: always skeptical of military intervention. And when a lot of
Speaker 7: the sometimes warmongering wing gets too excited, you don't know.
Speaker 7: Actually you need to have a lot of humility.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Libbery Lockdown. This is Clint Russell. Thank
Speaker 2: you for tuning in once again. My mom came and visited,
Speaker 2: so I took four days off to spend it with her. Hi, Mom,
Speaker 2: love you very much. Let's get into the show we've got. Look,
Speaker 2: I've been getting a bunch of pushback on a few
Speaker 2: claims that I've made, which is fine, that's normal, particularly
Speaker 2: from a lot of people I like, like Laura Logan,
Speaker 2: et cetera. And I just wanted to show the clips
Speaker 2: because I feel like and in fact, I was fact
Speaker 2: checked by Groc and Groc said that no, Trump and
Speaker 2: heg Seth and Rubio none of them said these things.
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, they have. I have them
Speaker 2: prepared for my show right now. So I want you
Speaker 2: to hear them and you tell me what you think.
Speaker 5: Here's they've been killing our people and killing people from
Speaker 5: all over the world, and I think we have great support,
Speaker 5: and I think if we didn't do it first, and
Speaker 5: they would have done it to Israel and give us
Speaker 5: a shot if that was possible.
Speaker 2: So first up, you got Donald Trump saying that if
Speaker 2: we didn't do it first, they would have done it
Speaker 2: to Israel. Did he say that they would have done
Speaker 2: it to America?
Speaker 3: No, it was Israel.
Speaker 2: All right, Let's shift over to Pete hegset to.
Speaker 8: Our steadfast partner, Israel, your mission is being executed with
Speaker 8: unmatched skill and iron determination.
Speaker 2: Pete Hegseth says that your mission is being fought. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's kind of the vibe I've been getting. And then
Speaker 2: on last week's episode, I already played you the clip
Speaker 2: of Marco Rubio saying the same thing. So we've got three. Basically,
Speaker 2: you can't get any higher. Secretary of State, Department of War,
Speaker 2: President of the United States, all acknowledging that this threat,
Speaker 2: this threat that we it was so imminent and urgent
Speaker 2: that you couldn't go to Congress to get congressional authorization
Speaker 2: for this war. It had to be taken, and particularly
Speaker 2: the threat was against not America but Israel. So for
Speaker 2: the life of me, I don't I don't underst why
Speaker 2: this is still such a contentious point. It's so self evident.
Speaker 2: You have the highest levels of power in our government
Speaker 2: saying it day in and day out, this is a
Speaker 2: war not to our benefit, but rather on the behalf
Speaker 2: of our ally as they see it in Israel.
Speaker 9: What's sad is when the whole world and Americans are
Speaker 9: looking at the situation and we know the reason because
Speaker 9: you're beholden the dB NET and Yahoo m H.
Speaker 3: We don't know why.
Speaker 9: We don't know if it's because if you're getting paid allegedly,
Speaker 9: We don't know if you're We just know you're compromised
Speaker 9: in some way.
Speaker 2: Now, far be it for me to agree with Charlotte
Speaker 2: made the God. We rarely agree, But I think that
Speaker 2: this is just more evidence that we've broken containment. Ladies
Speaker 2: and gentlemen like this is being discussed in mass This
Speaker 2: is being discussed on both sides of the political aisle,
Speaker 2: right wingers, left wingers. Everybody's still having the same conversation.
Speaker 2: We are not in control of our government.
Speaker 10: You know, the people that are cheering on this war
Speaker 10: in Iran, fucking clue why we're there. They don't care.
Speaker 10: They're happy to just see violence, you know. They're happy
Speaker 10: to see things blow up. They're at a bar in Florida.
Speaker 10: They're excited about the Iatola getting whacked. They don't know why,
Speaker 10: they don't know what Iran did to them. They're just
Speaker 10: happy to see violence and chaos. They don't care that
Speaker 10: a Tomahawk missile ripped through a school and killed one
Speaker 10: hundred and sixty five people, many of them between the
Speaker 10: ages of eight and ten years old. They don't care
Speaker 10: because many parts of this country are a moral black hole.
Speaker 10: They are a moral black hole where there is no morality.
Speaker 10: They're a moral You say, well, they maybe they have
Speaker 10: bad morals.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, they have no morals. They're a black hole.
Speaker 3: So you may be thinking that Tim.
Speaker 2: Dillon is being a bit hyperbolic just for comedic sake.
Speaker 3: I don't know, man.
Speaker 2: We got Alex Karp, the eelvolunteer, saying, this is what
Speaker 2: our greatest export is at this current stage of empire decline.
Speaker 11: So that what makes America special right now is our
Speaker 11: lethal capacities, our ability to fight war.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: One of the top performing stocks in America over the
Speaker 2: past couple of years, Volunteer CIA cut out am I Dad, Yeah,
Speaker 2: He the CEO of that company, says that what makes
Speaker 2: America special is our capacity to essentially export violence, our
Speaker 2: capacity to kill people. That's what makes America special at
Speaker 2: this point, And unfortunately I have to agree. Now, I
Speaker 2: don't agree with the positive spin that he's giving it.
Speaker 2: Obviously that also helps line his pockets, now, doesn't it. No,
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I tend to agree that that does
Speaker 2: seem to be what our primary economic exports are death
Speaker 2: and destruction. And in truth, it's hard to blame the
Speaker 2: American people for feeling as if this this is some
Speaker 2: sort of patriotic endeavor when you have talking points like
Speaker 2: this coming from Fox News.
Speaker 1: This is a short term disruption for the long term gain,
Speaker 1: short term pain for the long term.
Speaker 3: Gain, short term pain be for long term gain. We're
Speaker 3: gonna have some short term pain with long term gain,
Speaker 3: short term pay for a long term gain.
Speaker 12: Short term pain.
Speaker 13: Yes, we've got some long term gain, short term spike
Speaker 13: for a long term gain.
Speaker 11: Some short term pain for American consumers.
Speaker 2: We may have to deal with that in the short term,
Speaker 2: short term and temporary, temporary, short term pain. It's gonna
Speaker 2: stuck in the short term, some short term pain, short
Speaker 2: term pain.
Speaker 1: We have to focus on the short term, short term,
Speaker 1: short term, short term, short term, and long.
Speaker 3: Term short term.
Speaker 2: Hopefully this is a short term pain. Well, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: that's not just Fox News. That's CNN and MSNBC, and
Speaker 2: that's across the board. You remember when CNN and MSNBC
Speaker 2: would pretend to be the enemy of Donald Trump. Well,
Speaker 2: that all gets put to the wayside as soon as
Speaker 2: a war is a foot, in which case the talking
Speaker 2: points circulate and everybody starts to sound like a parrot.
Speaker 2: But you might be thinking, well, Clint, I mean, sure,
Speaker 2: that may be affecting the older demographics, which still tune
Speaker 2: in to conventional cable news, but what about the young.
Speaker 2: Certainly they're getting more truthful, hard hitting information, right.
Speaker 12: I think the way you can look at this this
Speaker 12: I haven't heard anyone else say this, but this seems
Speaker 12: to me to be the war to end all wars.
Speaker 12: I know that that's like bumper stickery and whatever, but
Speaker 12: it's the war to say no more of this, no
Speaker 12: more state sponsored jihadism all over the place, and one end.
Speaker 12: Once that happens, Once these countries calm down and things
Speaker 12: start turning, and we know the Gulf States are thriving
Speaker 12: because they've put aside some of this Jihattis lunacy. People
Speaker 12: will start being more successful and more successful, flourishing. People
Speaker 12: are less inclined to become crazy radicals, and that's not
Speaker 12: what the people of Iran want.
Speaker 3: It is not what they had when they had the
Speaker 3: shop Aroun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a podcast, and he's said, you know, no
Speaker 2: one said this yet, but it's the war to end
Speaker 2: all wars. You know, you know where that phrase comes from.
Speaker 2: Since he said no one said it yet, that would
Speaker 2: be HG. Wells in nineteen fourteen describing World War One. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right, that was the first of many, many wars
Speaker 2: of actually a war of century, of total war, which
Speaker 2: is what the nineteen hundreds were. That was the war
Speaker 2: to end all wars that began the twentieth century, and
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Speaker 2: thinking to yourself, surely Ben Shapiro has learned his lesson
Speaker 2: after supporting the Iraq war, in the Afghanistan War, the
Speaker 2: tire global.
Speaker 3: War and tear. No.
Speaker 2: No, he hasn't, and I can tell you why. Because
Speaker 2: this war is to benefit Israel, which is his true
Speaker 2: passion in life. So that's why he's getting this one
Speaker 2: wrong yet again, you saw thirty two thousand people shot
Speaker 2: in the streets.
Speaker 14: I know that we're supposed to forget about all that
Speaker 14: because opponents of the war, as we'll get to, are
Speaker 14: very very upset about a girls school that got hit
Speaker 14: in the war. And then we're supposed totally present that
Speaker 14: the Iranians don't slaughter innocent Iranians at the rate of
Speaker 14: tens of thousands the minute they pop their heads out
Speaker 14: of the ground. The Kurds, for example, live on the
Speaker 14: eastern side of the border with Iraqs. You have Iraqi
Speaker 14: Curds on one side, Iranian Curds on the other. We
Speaker 14: could see serious incursions into Iran from both Azerbaijan and
Speaker 14: from Iraqi Kurdistan by Iranian Kurds, and if that happened,
Speaker 14: there would be a serious challenge to IRGC forces. Those
Speaker 14: forces are now isolated from Iran because of the fracturing
Speaker 14: of the IRGC leadership class. Basically, with the destruction of
Speaker 14: the top levels of the IRGC, the lines of command
Speaker 14: have now broken down and you have specific IRGC areas
Speaker 14: governed by specific IRGC commanders, and so the entire structure
Speaker 14: could begin to collapse piece by piece, and if that happens,
Speaker 14: then more and more Iranians in the center of the
Speaker 14: country will understand that the moment has come for action,
Speaker 14: and finally the United States could simply bomb until the
Speaker 14: bombing is done.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you, I'm not guessing at Ben Shapiro
Speaker 2: being wrong. We already know he's wrong because in that
Speaker 2: monologue he says that there is an expectation or potentiality
Speaker 2: the Kurds, after having been betrayed by the United States
Speaker 2: of America and undoubtedly by Israel as well, have already announced. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we're not falling for that again. You guys pulled the
Speaker 2: rug on us in Iraq. You pulled the rug on
Speaker 2: us in Syria. We're not going into Iran on your behalf,
Speaker 2: no think, but certainly we can rely on the left
Speaker 2: wing to get this right. He's basically saying, listen, we're Christians.
Speaker 2: We don't need to defend these Jews at all. Their
Speaker 2: Holy Book is irrelevant to us. It's just barbarism in there.
Speaker 1: Does Israel have the right to that land because you're
Speaker 1: appealing to Genesis, You're saying that's the original deed.
Speaker 3: It would be fine if they took it all.
Speaker 11: I mean, I thought that was fascinating and well worth watching.
Speaker 11: And the way he went after Huckabee based on a
Speaker 11: differentiation between the New Testament and the Old Testament. He's
Speaker 11: basically saying, listen, we're Christians. We don't have to care
Speaker 11: about the Old Testament at all. Right, there's a lot
Speaker 11: of barbarism in there. He went after the whole Amlachite business.
Speaker 11: You know, that's just that's just genocide, right, Like, listen,
Speaker 11: we don't we don't need we don't need it to
Speaker 11: defend these Jews at all. Their Holy Book is irrelevant
Speaker 11: to us. It's just barbarism in there. Christ is king.
Speaker 11: All we have to care about is Jesus.
Speaker 2: So you have to believe that the Democrat voting Sam Harris,
Speaker 2: who's also an atheist ethnically Jewish but atheist, he would
Speaker 2: obviously find Mike Huckabee's position that Israel has a right
Speaker 2: to the entirety of the Middle East to be laughably
Speaker 2: absurd because he's an atheist, he doesn't believe in the Bible.
Speaker 2: There's no way he could think that Huckaby is in
Speaker 2: the right. He would have to decide with Hucker Carlson.
Speaker 2: He would have to no, no, he doesn't because at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, despite calling himself an atheist,
Speaker 2: there is no person on earth that Sam Harris hates
Speaker 2: more than Muslims. Because there has never been a war
Speaker 2: in the Middle East that Sam Harris didn't support, literally never.
Speaker 2: But we haven't ran out of hope yet. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm sure, I'm sure given how much Bill Maher hates
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, he's got to be opposed to this right.
Speaker 6: Also this week war did you hear about that thing?
Speaker 6: And we bombed Iran and it's going on now? Have
Speaker 6: you expected me to say I hate it? I don't. Sorry,
Speaker 6: when he puts boots on the ground, yeah, that I'll
Speaker 6: hate it now I know too many happy Iranian Americans. Sorry,
Speaker 6: And you cannot name one horrible thing that has happened
Speaker 6: in the Middle East in the last fifty years and
Speaker 6: not connected to this fascist theocracy.
Speaker 2: Bill Maher says there that you can't name one tradge,
Speaker 2: one bad thing that's happened in the Middle East that
Speaker 2: didn't connect her. I run, okay, how about the Iraq War,
Speaker 2: the Afghanistan War, Gaza Lebanon.
Speaker 3: I mean, sure, you get the look.
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is that is such an unbelievably bias position.
Speaker 2: Again coming from an atheist allegedly who obviously is as
Speaker 2: bloodthirsty as anybody on the right wing, you will find
Speaker 2: basically sounds like Lindsay Grant. And what makes this worse
Speaker 2: and more irritating, Despite the fact that we've now got
Speaker 2: twenty plus years of just disastrous quagmires in the Middle East,
Speaker 2: you still have this incredibly short term analysis that people
Speaker 2: are putting forward. We're just going to drop bombs and
Speaker 2: then we'll go home and everything will be fine. Well,
Speaker 2: here's the problem. Bill Trump today alone has said that
Speaker 2: we have now wiped out Iran's complete one hundred percent
Speaker 2: of their military capability. He then followed up in the
Speaker 2: same post saying that the straightuh Hormuze needs to be
Speaker 2: reopened by the people who use it, to which I say,
Speaker 2: if Iran has been one hundred percent militarily defeated, then
Speaker 2: why do we need any assistance. Trump thing goes on
Speaker 2: to say that he wants the Europeans to help, he
Speaker 2: wants the Chinese to help. The Chinese are not going
Speaker 2: to help. We have already kicked the hornets nest. It's
Speaker 2: like when your enemy's making mistake, don't stop them. That's
Speaker 2: how they view what we're doing here. So obviously they're
Speaker 2: not going to assist. But moreover, the obvious real lesson here,
Speaker 2: or the real truth here, is that Donald Trump is lying.
Speaker 2: If Iran has been one hundred percent militarily defeated, you
Speaker 2: don't need to be posting and asking for help by
Speaker 2: anybody else. You don't need help, especially with Trump. You
Speaker 2: know he would love to take a victory lap. We
Speaker 2: did this all on our own, and da dah dah,
Speaker 2: and we're just the best. We're the best. And it's
Speaker 2: over in two weeks and it was in and out.
Speaker 2: We're done. Additionally, we've now deployed five thousand marines to
Speaker 2: the region, which are likely going to be used to
Speaker 2: try and free up the straight of hormones. Now, if
Speaker 2: Iran's been defeated, you certainly don't need five thousand marines
Speaker 2: to release the blockade, right, it should be easily done
Speaker 2: with a dozen people.
Speaker 3: Nope, And here's the problem.
Speaker 2: In June of twenty twenty five, right before we decided
Speaker 2: to bomb their nuclear facilities, we were in negotiation with
Speaker 2: the Iranians and they were at the negotiating table with US,
Speaker 2: and it seemed as if there was a potentiality for
Speaker 2: a real agreement that essentially lifted the sanctions that have
Speaker 2: been crippling Iron economically for years now, probably a decade,
Speaker 2: and in return they would either allow for inspections again
Speaker 2: or give up their medium enriched uranium. And during that process, yeah,
Speaker 2: we hit them hard. Now you fast forward to February
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty six, just last month, just a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks ago. Again we are at the negotiating table.
Speaker 2: This time because the Iranians have already realized that we
Speaker 2: will kill them. In the middle of negotiating, they have
Speaker 2: the Omanians, I don't know if that's what you call
Speaker 2: the oman Is being used as intermediary to try and
Speaker 2: negotiate peace, and the representatives from Oma just the day
Speaker 2: before we take out their leader and their top fifty
Speaker 2: leadership and bombed the living hell out of them. Oman says.
Speaker 2: Iran has agreed to everything. They're ready to roll. All
Speaker 2: they want is to maintain a basically a civilian level
Speaker 2: nuclear facility for medicine and whatnot.
Speaker 3: But nope, we bombed the hell out of them.
Speaker 2: And what has come out since then is that it
Speaker 2: was Kushner, Jared Kushner who had Netanyahu's sleeping in his
Speaker 2: bed as a child. Little conflict of interests, I'd say there,
Speaker 2: as well as Steve Whitkoff, who was the lead envoy
Speaker 2: negotiator with the Iranians, and the Iranians now believe that
Speaker 2: they were basically shivved, They were stabbed in the back
Speaker 2: well believing that negotiating towards a peace settlement was a possibility.
Speaker 3: In fact it was not that. In fact, this was
Speaker 3: headed to war no matter what.
Speaker 2: So here's the problem, just from a purely like setting
Speaker 2: judgments aside here and just analyze this with me under
Speaker 2: a game theory framework. If you are negotiating with someone
Speaker 2: and you know that they might kill you mid negotiation,
Speaker 2: can you take them seriously about anything? The answer is no.
Speaker 2: And that is where the Iranians and honestly the rest
Speaker 2: of the world is now feeling and having to reassess
Speaker 2: and interact with America under the presumption that you are
Speaker 2: not a good faith actor, that in fact you are
Speaker 2: just setting us up to be murdered. So under that paradigm,
Speaker 2: that means that peace negotiations cannot be fruitful because you
Speaker 2: cannot trust anything that America or Israel has to say,
Speaker 2: which is obviously the rational position to hold. And it's
Speaker 2: unfortunate because this is oftentimes how we're told to perceive
Speaker 2: the Iranians, that they're irrational, that they're prepared to blow
Speaker 2: up their entire country as long as it injures one
Speaker 2: American or one Israeli. And it's like, well, who's the
Speaker 2: irrational actor? If our side is the one who's willing
Speaker 2: to murder our negotiation partners mid negotiation and bomb the
Speaker 2: hell out of a country mid negotiation, well then who's
Speaker 2: the irrational one? Who's the one that's reckless? I would argue,
Speaker 2: it's pretty clearly US. So now, under game theory, the
Speaker 2: only thing that you have, the only chip or card
Speaker 2: you have to play, given that you are terribly out manned,
Speaker 2: but you do have very difficult terrain to invade.
Speaker 3: You have a capacity to.
Speaker 2: Defend yourself, but you don't have really any capacity to
Speaker 2: harm America, at least not on our homeland. The only
Speaker 2: card that the Iranians are left to play is to
Speaker 2: close the Straight of Hormones, which today they announced that
Speaker 2: they will be closing it for at minimum three months
Speaker 2: now as I've already told you guys in prior episodes
Speaker 2: the straight of hormz is responsible for thirty percent of
Speaker 2: the oil transit of the world every single day. So
Speaker 2: if Trump is lying about his capacity to open up
Speaker 2: the straight of hormones, that means we are in for
Speaker 2: a world of hurt economically, like catastrophic. We're talking two
Speaker 2: hundred plus dollars per barrel of oil, which would have
Speaker 2: cascading effects throughout not just our stock market, but through
Speaker 2: the global economy, but through every single product we buy because,
Speaker 2: as you probably are aware, so much of what we
Speaker 2: consume has oil in it or in the production of it.
Speaker 2: But here's the tragedy. This is the only card iran
Speaker 2: has to play. If you recognize that your negotiating partner
Speaker 2: cannot be reasoned with, the only card they have to
Speaker 2: play is to make it so painful for us, you
Speaker 2: and I, the people who don't even support this war,
Speaker 2: to make it politically untenable for them Trump, whitcof, Kushner,
Speaker 2: the Israelis to ever do this again. That is the
Speaker 2: only leverage they have. The Iranians have to punish us
Speaker 2: economically to try and defend themselves militarily. And I think
Speaker 2: that's exactly what they're going to do.
Speaker 8: The only thing prohibiting transit in the Straits right now
Speaker 8: is Iran shooting at shipping.
Speaker 3: It is open for transit. Should Iran not do that?
Speaker 2: So in short, despite that word salad, yeah or fucked,
Speaker 2: they don't actually have a plan for this. And in fact,
Speaker 2: the Trump was warned by one of his top generals
Speaker 2: don't do this, that they will obviously shut down the
Speaker 2: Straight of Hormoz. And guess what, According to I think
Speaker 2: it was a Washington Post I read the article from
Speaker 2: Trump said, I believe that we will beat them so
Speaker 2: badly with this surgical strike, this decapitation strike. We take
Speaker 2: out their top fifty leadership. Obviously command and control will fall,
Speaker 2: the people will rise up. There will be no moment
Speaker 2: at which Iran is still standing by which they can
Speaker 2: give orders to shut down the Straight of Hormoz. This
Speaker 2: is honestly what Trump thought. That was wrong, And I'll
Speaker 2: tell you how stupid this is. This is a true story.
Speaker 2: George Bush, George HW. Bush, the Junior in two thousand
Speaker 2: and three, when they were talking about you know, Iraq, Afghanistan,
Speaker 2: Iran as potential arenas for war George Bush was smart
Speaker 2: enough to say, yeah, Iranza no goes on because of
Speaker 2: the straight or horror moves, primarily also because of the
Speaker 2: mountainous regions and making it impossible for a ground invasion.
Speaker 3: It's just ultimately suicide.
Speaker 2: There was top generals at that point that we're threatening
Speaker 2: to resign over it, to resign over plans of a
Speaker 2: ground invasion into Iran. So this is a dead end
Speaker 2: and our military brass has known that for decades.
Speaker 3: And this is going to be complicated.
Speaker 2: But I want to explain it to you guys, because
Speaker 2: I had an opportunity to respond to Thadeus Russell about
Speaker 2: this a couple hours ago, and it's just it's very complex,
Speaker 2: but it's also I think it's very rational and logical.
Speaker 2: So let me tell you what I think is happening
Speaker 2: and why. But it's important to understand how the empire
Speaker 2: actually functions. The American Empire is clearly a real thing,
Speaker 2: but it's not so much a physical empire in that,
Speaker 2: you know, like the Greeks of the Romans, Like we're
Speaker 2: going around and we're actually putting boots on the ground
Speaker 2: and we're conquering every square inch of land that we control.
Speaker 2: How our modern empire works. Our modern empire functions under
Speaker 2: a more soft power, even though it's oftentimes brutal, but
Speaker 2: it's it's considered soft power. Sanctions, CIA, USAID funding, opposition parties,
Speaker 2: things of that nature. The more kind of less it's
Speaker 2: not less overt. We're not actually just putting five hundred
Speaker 2: thousand troops and invading a country like Ukraine, for instance.
Speaker 2: Our overthrow was done without troops or very minimal troops.
Speaker 2: And then the other tier of soft power would be
Speaker 2: that we negotiate with other countries, offering security guarantees or
Speaker 2: financial assistance, like, for instance, we give a ton of
Speaker 2: money to a bunch of Muslim countries to get along
Speaker 2: with Israel. We also have offered security guarantees to many
Speaker 2: Muslim countries to get along with Israel. I know, it's
Speaker 2: an interesting trend that keeps popping up over and over again.
Speaker 2: Like Donald Trump in his first term, I've heard Timpoole
Speaker 2: and a bunch of people, you know, give a lot
Speaker 2: of credit to Trump for the Abrahamacords. But what really
Speaker 2: were the Abrahamic Coords? In my estimation, it was not
Speaker 2: so much about peace in the Middle East. It was
Speaker 2: about getting everybody in the Middle East who was oppositional
Speaker 2: to Israel to be under our thumb so that they
Speaker 2: would allow for Israel to do what they did in Gaza,
Speaker 2: to do what they're now doing in Iran, which is
Speaker 2: why we took out Iraq, why we took out Afghanistan
Speaker 2: and Libya and Syria. Is that this is about another empire,
Speaker 2: an empire that is not our own, that does not,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, benefit us at all. Now I'll explain
Speaker 2: that in a second, but the key thing to understand is,
Speaker 2: as I said, our empire is not so much physical
Speaker 2: as much as it is coercive, as much as it
Speaker 2: is financial in nature. We use bribery, we use protection
Speaker 2: rackets to get people to do our bidding. So we
Speaker 2: don't control the entire world, but we control most of
Speaker 2: the world with this mechanism. And the underlying mechanism by
Speaker 2: which we control is that we are the global reserve currency.
Speaker 2: We're able to print money that has maximal purchasing power
Speaker 2: domestically and diminishing power as it gets pushed out into
Speaker 2: the rest of the world. But the rest of the
Speaker 2: world is required to use it because we'll kill you
Speaker 2: if you don't. So it's certainly an empire, but it's
Speaker 2: a modern variation of it. However, the reason I believe
Speaker 2: that our empire is being sacrificed right now is for
Speaker 2: another empire, an empire that is physical in nature, an
Speaker 2: empire of expansion, an empire specifically for Israel, not even
Speaker 2: for America, and it is very physical. And I'm not
Speaker 2: just talking about Gozla or the West Bank, but also
Speaker 2: portions of Lebanon and Yemen and probably Iraq, possibly Iran,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure at that point at this point, but
Speaker 2: Syria for sure. So in short, to put a tidy
Speaker 2: little ball on this, what I believe is happening is
Speaker 2: that we are jeopardizing our empire because as of today,
Speaker 2: the Iranians have announced that they are willing to allow
Speaker 2: ships to sail through the straight oh Hormoz as long
Speaker 2: as they are selling that oil or gas in Yuan. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a problem because that means that they are essentially
Speaker 2: blockading anything that goes through there that is being transited
Speaker 2: or sold via the US dollar, which means that the
Speaker 2: Petro dollar reserve status is kind of massively under threat.
Speaker 2: The orionions, however you want to feel about them, are
Speaker 2: playing for keeps. They're playing hardball and they're playing smart.
Speaker 2: This is exactly the lever of pressure that you would
Speaker 2: want to apply to an empire if you were trying
Speaker 2: to defeat them. Sure, we don't have the power to
Speaker 2: strike you domestically, but we have the power to undermine
Speaker 2: your entire shit, your entire operation. Bro Like, that's about
Speaker 2: as hardball as it gets. So in summary, we are
Speaker 2: trading our soft power, dollar based empire on behalf of
Speaker 2: Israel burgeoning physical empire in their region, their expansionary programs,
Speaker 2: and that, ladies and gentlemen, is why you would have
Speaker 2: someone like Miriam Adelson polling up two hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: million dollars to put Trump into power.
Speaker 3: And this is the payoff.
Speaker 10: Now.
Speaker 2: As I covered on the prior episode, there is massive
Speaker 2: suppression that's going on, not just from social media algorithms,
Speaker 2: but also on the ground. It is illegal to post
Speaker 2: footage or most footage within Israel of strikes that are
Speaker 2: landing from Iran. There's also been a total internet blackout
Speaker 2: within Iran, probably because they're afraid of subterfuge, cyber attacks,
Speaker 2: things of that nature, but also to suppress dissidence that
Speaker 2: might rise up against them. But regardless, it's made it
Speaker 2: almost impossible to get any footage of what's actually happening there.
Speaker 2: We've also gotten virtually no footage of all of the
Speaker 2: damage that's been happening to American basis throughout the region,
Speaker 2: even though we now know that there's been at minimum
Speaker 2: thirteen KIA on the American side. But there was something
Speaker 2: that took place yesterday that people Most people didn't even
Speaker 2: know what happened, but those that did take notice understood
Speaker 2: that this could be something very, very big. This is
Speaker 2: Scott Besson.
Speaker 3: I listened to you on the oh okay okay to
Speaker 3: see short as the Secretary missus s.
Speaker 13: I have to say it's a first, I'm sure a
Speaker 13: loss as well that an interview. He's been pulled away
Speaker 13: to go to the situation room. How was the President
Speaker 13: was he was? He stressed, Uh No, the President is
Speaker 13: in great spirits. The Iranian mission is proceeding well ahead
Speaker 13: of schedule. And you know, I have to tell you
Speaker 13: well that I've a teenage teenager who's considering a military service,
Speaker 13: and I could give this team my highest compliment from
Speaker 13: President Trump to the head of the Joint Chiefs, to
Speaker 13: the Secretary of War, I would say that I would
Speaker 13: trust my child's life in their hands.
Speaker 2: Now, for those that aren't familiar with Scott Assent, he's
Speaker 2: our Treasury secretary, like top economic advisor basically to President Trump.
Speaker 2: So if you're not familiar with him, you probably don't
Speaker 2: know how he normally speaks. He doesn't speak like that.
Speaker 2: He was shaken, like deeply shaken, and to have him
Speaker 2: pulled mid interview tells you that it was something urgent.
Speaker 2: To put it mildly right, you don't pull one of
Speaker 2: your top spokespeople from an interview unless it's mandatory, and
Speaker 2: they said it was mandatory. So he gets pulled aside,
Speaker 2: he comes back hours later and he is like, clearly,
Speaker 2: like why does it goes shaken? So there's two possibilities
Speaker 2: in my opinion. One and unfortunately, I don't know what
Speaker 2: he said to that interviewer prior. Maybe he said something
Speaker 2: that Trump didn't like, so he just went back there,
Speaker 2: got his ass chewed out, and then came back out
Speaker 2: and was all shaken, and that's why he conveyed it
Speaker 2: in that fashion.
Speaker 3: It's possible.
Speaker 2: The other possibility, and this is a very interesting one,
Speaker 2: since that moment bib Netnaw, who has not been seen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2: Also was another Israeli intelligence meeting or briefing today which
Speaker 2: bib Netnyaw, who always attends, wasn't there. There was also
Speaker 2: a press conference from net Yahoo that came out yesterday
Speaker 2: that people are pointing out that he had six fingers,
Speaker 2: that he was missing teeth in one of the frames,
Speaker 2: and they're very theorizing that it was Ai. So it
Speaker 2: makes you wonder. It really does make you wonder if
Speaker 2: Netnyaho was taken out by Iran and that they are
Speaker 2: covering it up for.
Speaker 3: I don't know what purpose you would cover up.
Speaker 2: I guess to try and negotiate an exit strategy maybe
Speaker 2: or to find an air apparent.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Now Today Israel denied it and they say that Netnya,
Speaker 2: who's fine. Okay, maybe, But regardless of whether or not
Speaker 2: that actually has happened, I still think it's really telling
Speaker 2: that you would have a moment where the Treasury secretary
Speaker 2: would be pulled aside and then come back.
Speaker 3: Why does it ghosts stumbling.
Speaker 2: Over his words obviously like shaken and looked like he
Speaker 2: was scared to death, And then you got to really
Speaker 2: like rewind back and listen to what he said. He says,
Speaker 2: I just want to say that I would my son
Speaker 2: is of age for the military, and I would be
Speaker 2: proud to have him, you know, under the command of
Speaker 2: Pete hag Sath or Donald Trump or whatever.
Speaker 3: It's like.
Speaker 2: That was like a Fieldy test to end all Fielty tests,
Speaker 2: like you, hey, will you let us risk your son's life?
Speaker 2: And he's like yeah, And he's saying that in a
Speaker 2: very shaken fashion. So something to you know, pay attention
Speaker 2: to is that there is real stress right now. And
Speaker 2: I think that it belies the fact that Trump is
Speaker 2: pretending we've already won this war. It's only been two weeks.
Speaker 2: There are one hundred percent militarily destroyed. You know, everything's
Speaker 2: going great, and there's short term pain for some long
Speaker 2: term gain, right, I think not now. I'm not rooting
Speaker 2: against us, as I've said many times, I am critical
Speaker 2: of Donald Trump and the Trump administration because I love
Speaker 2: this country and because I want us to succeed and
Speaker 2: prevail and be prosperous and free and peaceful. But the
Speaker 2: reason I'm critical is because we're not being any of
Speaker 2: those things. The dollar is dying as a consequence of
Speaker 2: our empire. The empire is dying as a consequence of
Speaker 2: our relationship to Israel, and some of the opposition to
Speaker 2: these wars has also been dying. And I'll maybe get
Speaker 2: into that in my next episode. That would be Charlie
Speaker 2: Kirk and I actually had this conversation with my mom
Speaker 2: down at the pool today. We were talking about, you know,
Speaker 2: whether or not Trump is still on our side, because
Speaker 2: you know, she wants to believe or she's she wants
Speaker 2: to she's hopeful, and some of the pushbacks she gave
Speaker 2: me on some of my criticisms was like, well, there
Speaker 2: are certain things that Trump can do and other things
Speaker 2: that he can't, So we just have to hope basically
Speaker 2: a limited capacity of what he can endeavor to accomplish.
Speaker 2: So we just have to hope that some of the
Speaker 2: things that he endeavors to accomplish will be to our benefit.
Speaker 2: And what I expressed to her is that, well, I
Speaker 2: have no animosity towards Jewish people. It is so evident
Speaker 2: to me at this junction that, yeah, I agree with
Speaker 2: her that there is a limited amount of capacity of
Speaker 2: things that you're going to be able to accomplish, particularly
Speaker 2: in the first year or two of your presidency, and
Speaker 2: you're going to have to pick and choose. So which
Speaker 2: are you going to pick and choose? And what I
Speaker 2: think most Trump supporters are realizing at this point, or
Speaker 2: at least a good chunk of them are realizing, is that, yes,
Speaker 2: he has limited things that he can accomplish, and the
Speaker 2: only things that he's really focusing on accomplishing are to
Speaker 2: the benefit of Israel, not America. When it comes to deportations,
Speaker 2: he says, you know, we're going to do mass deportations.
Speaker 2: Then it looks as if he's not even going to
Speaker 2: surpass Barack Obama's deportation figures. And why is he not
Speaker 2: going to surpass Obama? Well, because it's politically untenable. But
Speaker 2: then you have to ask yourself, Wait a second, the
Speaker 2: war in Iran is super unpopular, way more unpopular than deportations.
Speaker 2: But you can still do that. Oh, but whose interest
Speaker 2: is that in? Oh, that's in the interest of Israel
Speaker 2: or Ariam Adelson or your donor class more broadly. And
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, suddenly, suddenly the things that aren't popular
Speaker 2: get done if it's to the benefit of your donors.
Speaker 2: But if it's unpopular and it's to the benefit of Americans.
Speaker 2: You can't get it done all right, then you start
Speaker 2: to recognize like, oh, well, then clearly you're not on
Speaker 2: our side. Because if there is a limited amount of
Speaker 2: things that you can accomplish and you are opting to
Speaker 2: not do the things that you promised us, like not
Speaker 2: more wars in the Middle East, and it said you're
Speaker 2: delivering more wars in the Middle East on behalf of
Speaker 2: your donors, Well, then you have completely abdicated your duty
Speaker 2: to your voters, to your supporters. And as I've said,
Speaker 2: the reason I approach this with such urgency, the reason
Speaker 2: I feel this betrayal so deeply, is that we needed
Speaker 2: a hero. Thirty nine trillion in debt is a hiccup away.
Speaker 2: We're going to be forty trillion deep in the hole
Speaker 2: by the end of this year. There is no time
Speaker 2: for fuck ups. There is no time for games or
Speaker 2: mistakes or selling out or being a fraud, none of that.
Speaker 2: You have to be real right now. And if you're
Speaker 2: not real, I'm gonna hold your feet to the fire.
Speaker 2: And the reason I know that this is viable, the
Speaker 2: reason I know that this is valuable is because Donald
Speaker 2: Trump is He is surrounded by yes men. He is
Speaker 2: surround his voting base. The rider dies are largely sycophantic.
Speaker 2: They largely just praise him. Anytime he makes a mistake.
Speaker 2: It's five d chess. Oh, you just don't understand he's
Speaker 2: actually going to be doing this. Oh you think that
Speaker 2: in the short term this is a problem, But long
Speaker 2: term he's going after Fauci.
Speaker 3: Right, No, he's not so. At his core.
Speaker 2: What drives Donald Trump Well, in my opinion, there's a
Speaker 2: distinct possibility he's being driven by his survival instincts, that
Speaker 2: he's actually under threat. As Brett Weisen talked to Tucker
Speaker 2: Carlson about yesterday, the golden.
Speaker 8: Pager that was given to President Trump strikes me as
Speaker 8: another raw shock test, just like Babe's statement after Charlie
Speaker 8: Kirk's murder. You can read it into totally different ways, right.
Speaker 8: The normal way to read it is that.
Speaker 3: This was maybe a.
Speaker 8: Tasteless celebration of a successful operation and YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 8: On the other hand, it can obviously be read as
Speaker 8: a threat. I can imagine the meeting in which somebody says, hey,
Speaker 8: maybe we should send President Trump a golden pager after
Speaker 8: our successful operation somebody should immediately shoot that idea down
Speaker 8: and say no, we can't do that because it could
Speaker 8: be read in another way.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 8: So, anyway, as we are struggling to understand what is
Speaker 8: taking place in our country, why it was received that
Speaker 8: way too?
Speaker 13: You do? I do?
Speaker 8: Well, you're not making me feel better.
Speaker 3: I mean, come on now, come on right? You know, yeah,
Speaker 3: what was that?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 2: It's important for you to remember that Tucker Crosson, prior
Speaker 2: to about two weeks ago when the war started, had
Speaker 2: a really good relationship with Donald Trump. So when Tucker
Speaker 2: Crolson says, yeah, I think it was received that way
Speaker 2: in as a threat, that's fascinating. That should be front
Speaker 2: page news nationwide. So in my view, there were two possibilities.
Speaker 2: Either a Donald Trump is under mortal threat and there's
Speaker 2: literally nothing he can do to get out of this
Speaker 2: and he's just trying to keep him and his family
Speaker 2: alive possible. Or B, and I am coin flip on this,
Speaker 2: I really don't know which it is. Is that his
Speaker 2: ego has been satiated by the pro Zionist orbiters around him.
Speaker 2: They've convinced him that he's some sort of messianic figure
Speaker 2: within Judaism.
Speaker 3: This is true.
Speaker 2: They say this constantly. You've got Mark Levin constantly saying
Speaker 2: he's the first Jewish president. You've got Lindsey Graham saying
Speaker 2: he's reagen plus plus plus and blah blah blah, and
Speaker 2: the more bombs he drops, the more patriotic and the
Speaker 2: more George Washington he is. And this is purely an
Speaker 2: ego play that they have found a way to manipulate
Speaker 2: Donald Trump based off of ego. So we've got two possibilities.
Speaker 2: As I said, mortal threat or it's an ego play.
Speaker 2: So as far as I'm concerned, there's not much I
Speaker 2: can do. If this is a mortal threat thing and
Speaker 2: Trump is just trying to survive his presidency and get
Speaker 2: out and keep his family alive, well then how am
Speaker 2: I going to convince him of anything?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: But if it is an ego play, if he is
Speaker 2: selling us out based off of him being manipulated by
Speaker 2: his advisors, well then the alternative ego attack that we
Speaker 2: have is to not inflate his ego, to call out
Speaker 2: as loudly as possible that you are betraying us, and
Speaker 2: your legacy will be one of betrayal. And we expected
Speaker 2: you to be the hero that you marketed yourself to
Speaker 2: be and you're not that, and every fucking street corner
Speaker 2: you walk down in America you're going to be yelled
Speaker 2: at for that exact purpose that we know exactly who
Speaker 2: you are and what you did, and that you are
Speaker 2: a coward and a trader to this country. Or you
Speaker 2: can be the hero that you marketed yourself to be.
Speaker 2: You can disclose the Epstein files, you can end the
Speaker 2: endless wars, you can go after Fauci and the entire
Speaker 2: deep state, the FBI that tried to kill you, probably
Speaker 2: like you can do all of these things, or you
Speaker 2: go down as the greatest what if in history? What
Speaker 2: if you had had courage, What if you had been honest?
Speaker 2: What if you would actually pursued the things that you promised. So,
Speaker 2: if it's an ego play, we go after his legacy.
Speaker 2: We say you either deliver or you are reviled. Those
Speaker 2: are your options. Be a hero, be lauded, be loved,
Speaker 2: or be a villain, be yelled at, be hated. So well,
Speaker 2: obviously I'm just driven by truthful analysis of what I
Speaker 2: see happening. There's also tactical reasoning to the approach that
Speaker 2: I have is that I believe that if we can
Speaker 2: shift the zeitgeist in America, particularly amongst his base, the
Speaker 2: people who he thinks love him still to say, hey,
Speaker 2: you're actually not delivering. You're actually not on our side,
Speaker 2: and the clock is ticking. We are approaching the midterms.
Speaker 2: You're going to lose the midterms because you chose to,
Speaker 2: instead of delivering on your campaign promises, to deliver on
Speaker 2: your donor promises by starting a war in Iran. So
Speaker 2: the Democrats are not going to win the Senate, the
Speaker 2: Democrats are not going to win the House, and you're
Speaker 2: going to get impeached. So now we're never homeboy. We
Speaker 2: have no time left to play around. We have no
Speaker 2: time left for five D chess. We have no time
Speaker 2: left to just put all of our desires and needs
Speaker 2: and really necessities aside to assuade your egotistical concerns. We're
Speaker 2: not going to pretend you're delivering when you're not. And
Speaker 2: if that still doesn't work, well, then yeah, his life
Speaker 2: is probably under threat and you can guess by who.
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