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Speaker 1: host of The Secret Teachings, author, researcher, and really good
Speaker 1: friend Ryan Gable, Welcome back, brother. It's good to see you.
Speaker 2: You too, buddy. Thanks for having me back on as always.
Speaker 1: Man, we have so much stuff going on. We had
Speaker 1: and the first thing that I want to start with
Speaker 1: is something that I don't believe that a lot of
Speaker 1: people are talking about right now, and that is the
Speaker 1: robot in the White House. Now. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's because people have been desensitized to a lot of
Speaker 1: this robot stuff, you know, those fake AI robot videos
Speaker 1: that are online all the time where they got AI
Speaker 1: doing all kinds of crazy wild stuff, like you know,
Speaker 1: dancing and like fighting, and that the robots are way
Speaker 1: better all this stuff than humans are. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was that or if it was something else,
Speaker 1: or that people thought that this video that we're currently
Speaker 1: watching right now with Milania Trump inside of the White
Speaker 1: House with the humanoid robot was fake in some sort
Speaker 1: of AI video, but I did not see anybody talking
Speaker 1: about this at all, and I thought that that was
Speaker 1: so interesting. And the further you get into this video,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you watch this entire thing, but
Speaker 1: what she says later after the robot introduces itself, which
Speaker 1: we're getting going to listen to here, she's talking about
Speaker 1: how that they can download so the consciousness of anybody
Speaker 1: inside of this humanoid robot, and then they can teach children.
Speaker 1: That's the entire part. The whole unveiling of this robot
Speaker 1: in the White House is to teach children. What did
Speaker 1: you think of this?
Speaker 2: I did see this. I have not myself done a
Speaker 2: show in it yet. I'm looking at right now, a robot,
Speaker 2: a woman who, according to conspiracy theorists, is from Venus.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard that theory. She's actually
Speaker 2: a Venusian. Others argue that she's from the Plates and
Speaker 2: that's not a joke. That's actually what a lot of
Speaker 2: people argue. And then I'm looking at maybe what is
Speaker 2: a transgender man woman, So it's a new joke. A robot,
Speaker 2: a transgender and a platinge walk into a bar. But
Speaker 2: in all seriousness, when I heard that, and I did
Speaker 2: hear the part about training it to teach children. I
Speaker 2: wrote a book a long time ago. It's not really
Speaker 2: one I promoted anymore, but it was about technology and
Speaker 2: robot and I remember just when you said that, it
Speaker 2: reminded me of this robot they had called Plato, named
Speaker 2: after the philosopher Plato, and it was about teaching kids
Speaker 2: companionship and teaching kids math and science and philosophy, I guess.
Speaker 2: And that was ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen years ago,
Speaker 2: and now they are just walking next to the first lady.
Speaker 2: So things have changed pretty quickly in regard to how
Speaker 2: available this technology is and how much it's being pushed
Speaker 2: to the public. Part of it is obviously a natural
Speaker 2: development of technology. Some of it I think is artificial,
Speaker 2: and some of it is motivated by malicious intent, in
Speaker 2: my opinion than more so than benevolency. I'll send you
Speaker 2: a video when we're done with the show.
Speaker 3: Writer.
Speaker 2: I went to get sushi the other night and we
Speaker 2: had I forget what I ordered. Maybe my wife ordered
Speaker 2: to bowl of soup or something, and this robot delivered
Speaker 2: it to the table. And it's just this four wheeled robot.
Speaker 2: It delivered it, and it says, you know, here's your food,
Speaker 2: and all I got thoguzamas, and it turns around and
Speaker 2: rolls away. And that's just such an ingrained part of
Speaker 2: life over here. It's not really as common as you
Speaker 2: might expect, but it is such an ingrained part of
Speaker 2: life that you see a robot at the mall cleaning
Speaker 2: the floors. You see robot delivering a bowl of soup
Speaker 2: or a bottle of sake or something at a restaurant.
Speaker 2: There's other workers there too, a lot of workers, but
Speaker 2: it's still they incorporate robots into things. There's some train
Speaker 2: stations I've seen, But over here it's just part of
Speaker 2: life in a different way than it's being, as far
Speaker 2: as I can tell, being pushed in the United States.
Speaker 2: I mean, when the president was first in office, the
Speaker 2: second time he was an office, first reinaugurated for this term,
Speaker 2: the first thing he did was team up with tech
Speaker 2: companies and team up with technocrats. And of course that's
Speaker 2: where jade Vance comes as well. But more to the point,
Speaker 2: this is a technocratic regime. We've even seen recently the discussions.
Speaker 2: I mean, this was going on months ago, but now
Speaker 2: we're seeing more discussions about how I think Musk had
Speaker 2: talked about this. Musk's father was involved in this as well.
Speaker 2: But this idea that the United States, Greenland, Canada is
Speaker 2: all part of what is the North American Union. And
Speaker 2: as I and you and many others have probably noticed,
Speaker 2: there are a lot of things such as the North
Speaker 2: American Union, which was a big conspiracy theory, something that
Speaker 2: the conspiracy theorists were crazy for talking about, and now
Speaker 2: it's make America great. And it's a very similar thing
Speaker 2: with electric cars. And with Musk, he's Democrats, so we
Speaker 2: support him. He's a Republican and we don't support him.
Speaker 2: But then now you have people like Info Wars giving
Speaker 2: away electric cars even though they said they were the
Speaker 2: car of the future that would control us and drive
Speaker 2: us to the police station if we posted something on
Speaker 2: social media they didn't like. And suddenly that's okay because
Speaker 2: Musk is a Republican or something now. And it's a
Speaker 2: similar thing with robots. The people that told us that
Speaker 2: the robots are going to take over, the robots are
Speaker 2: going to be invading our privacy are suddenly like, oh, look,
Speaker 2: there's a robot at the White House. It's really cool,
Speaker 2: and if you don't like it, then you must be
Speaker 2: anti American. I've just seen, as I'm sure you've noticed too, writer,
Speaker 2: there's a giant shift, a tremendous amount of hypocrisy and
Speaker 2: double standards, a lot of delusion and paranoia and schizophrenia
Speaker 2: as far as I can tell. And I think people
Speaker 2: are so confused they don't know what to think or
Speaker 2: what to do anymore. So they've just kind of become
Speaker 2: like children and they just oh, it's funny or it's
Speaker 2: not funny, and they just move on from there. I
Speaker 2: think that's how most Americans tend to view things nowadays,
Speaker 2: because there's too much there's too much information, and there's
Speaker 2: too much confusion. There's too much disinfo, misinfo. There's even
Speaker 2: too much truthful information. We're even suspicious of that, so
Speaker 2: we create conspiracies where there aren't any. It's hard to
Speaker 2: know what's going on. But that's my assessment initially of
Speaker 2: the robots story. Plus, we could also last thing. We
Speaker 2: could also teach our children ourselves.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: It's it's weird that we live in a country where
Speaker 2: up in Oregon they've cut math and reading requirements to
Speaker 2: graduate high school, so you just don't have to have
Speaker 2: that knowledge. So a country that does that then says, oh,
Speaker 2: we need robots to teach the kids. Well, you could
Speaker 2: just teach them how to read and write, and you
Speaker 2: could also. I mean, that's a part of growing up,
Speaker 2: and that's a part of like what a family in
Speaker 2: a community does, is that they teach children. You don't
Speaker 2: you don't delegate that to a machine. And I guess
Speaker 2: unless you're super rich and you have like a nanny
Speaker 2: that teaches them and you're busy all the time, it's
Speaker 2: a It's something that is concerning because I think that
Speaker 2: the generation of kids that might be raised in that
Speaker 2: educational type quote unquote education of environment are the same
Speaker 2: ones that don't know any They don't know a life.
Speaker 2: You and I might be the last generation of people
Speaker 2: that know what a life is like before a cell phone.
Speaker 2: And I don't think anybody's going to really have any
Speaker 2: kids aren't going to have any perspective on that. They're
Speaker 2: going to be raised in that environment. That's what it is.
Speaker 2: And again over here in Japan, that is a normal thing,
Speaker 2: but it's a different type of thing. I think over
Speaker 2: here it's like a it's like a natural developmental thing,
Speaker 2: and in the US it's there's something else happening. I
Speaker 2: can't really put my finger on it, but it seems
Speaker 2: more authoritarian than just, oh, let's have a robot deliver
Speaker 2: soup because it's cute. Over Here in Japan, there's a
Speaker 2: difference between what's happening.
Speaker 1: We've come a long way since the rumbas, the rumbas
Speaker 1: that you put in your house and and you know,
Speaker 1: clean your floors and stuff. But it's interesting that you
Speaker 1: bring up Plato because that is the exact person the Milenia.
Speaker 1: Trump references that we can recreate the ancient Greek philosopher
Speaker 1: Plato as a humanoid robot to teach children. Hey, that's
Speaker 1: exactly who she said, and we're gonna hear what this
Speaker 1: robot says. You're just a second your.
Speaker 3: First lady in Milania. Trump for inviting me to the
Speaker 3: White House. It is an honor to be at fostering
Speaker 3: the future together as Global Coalition inaugural meeting, I'm Fig three,
Speaker 3: a humanoid built in the United States of America. I
Speaker 3: am grateful to be part of this historic movement to
Speaker 3: empower children with technology and education, welcome them, Benito Yokoso.
Speaker 1: So then it goes on to say welcome and I
Speaker 1: think fourteen to fifteen different languages there. We don't have
Speaker 1: to listen to all of that. But I just thought,
Speaker 1: why is no one talking about that. This seems like
Speaker 1: a really big deal. When is the last time humanoid
Speaker 1: AI robot has walked into the White House. It's kind
Speaker 1: of a big deal, and I think that it should
Speaker 1: be a big deal, and everyone's just like, is it
Speaker 1: even real? I mean, that's the only thing that I
Speaker 1: can think that people are thinking that they don't want
Speaker 1: to comment on it because but you can just type
Speaker 1: it in, Type it into Google. Go to Google right now,
Speaker 1: typing AI humanoid robot visits White House, You'll see New
Speaker 1: York Times articles. You'll see all of the article. It's real,
Speaker 1: it really happened, They really did this.
Speaker 2: Well, that goes back to my point about how it's
Speaker 2: so hard to tell what's real and what's not real,
Speaker 2: is that they're really concerning things like this. I think
Speaker 2: this is concerning for a number of reasons that would
Speaker 2: take several hours to go into the details about. But
Speaker 2: things that are actually concerning and genuinely potentially destructive even
Speaker 2: though their soul is constructive. Those things just get ignored
Speaker 2: and the algorithm pushes nonsense. This again also connects to
Speaker 2: what I was referencing with the North American Union. Pete
Speaker 2: Heggs at the Secretary of Defense was talking about how
Speaker 2: I think he used the term the Greater North America,
Speaker 2: and so it would be the make Greater North America
Speaker 2: great again, which would include the US and Canada and
Speaker 2: Greenland among other countries. Again, this is all part of
Speaker 2: the I mean, if you had to define what a
Speaker 2: global conspiracy was even ten years ago, it was they're
Speaker 2: going to control where you drive and where you go,
Speaker 2: and what you buy and what you can sell and
Speaker 2: mark the beast motif there, and you're not going to
Speaker 2: have sovereignty, and you're going to be part of these
Speaker 2: big unions that are merged into a world government, and
Speaker 2: they're going to control you with electric cars. That's how
Speaker 2: they're going to get you out of your vehicles. They're
Speaker 2: going to give you one, but you can't really drive it.
Speaker 2: They go from driver lists to self driving entirely, and
Speaker 2: there's going to be robots that do this and teach
Speaker 2: your kids, and it's like a blend of like real
Speaker 2: things and then also some little bit of paranoia. But
Speaker 2: people used to be opposed to this, and now the
Speaker 2: people that you in my assessment, the people that used
Speaker 2: to be opposed to this are the ones that not
Speaker 2: only are they're either advocating for it and justifying it
Speaker 2: or they're oblivious to it because they're more concerned with
Speaker 2: like what QAnon is doing on the internet. They've been
Speaker 2: sucked into that, like all the resistance to the like
Speaker 2: the North American Union and one World this and One
Speaker 2: World that, and robots. I've been sucked into q and on,
Speaker 2: which is counterintelligence things like QAnon, so that when you
Speaker 2: actually get a freaking robot at the White House, you know,
Speaker 2: program to say these things, they're they're nowhere to be
Speaker 2: found because they've been they've been following q andon and
Speaker 2: looking for the real JFK, which I'm I'm convinced that
Speaker 2: should be like a reality TV show, Who's the real
Speaker 2: JFK or RFK or whoever the hell it is, who
Speaker 2: have this Kennedy guys that's supposed to be alive or
Speaker 2: whoever it is, But is a JFK junior? Okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: JFK Junior or Wan Salvin or whatever his name is.
Speaker 1: It's just come on, Ryan, get your Q facts straight, bro.
Speaker 2: Come on, Yeah, I gotta watch my p's and watch
Speaker 2: my cues. By the way, I also thought it was
Speaker 2: interesting because I just listened to that robot for the
Speaker 2: first time. I did not watch the video and when
Speaker 2: you played it. I'm not a linguistic person, like I
Speaker 2: am not really good at learning other languages. I am
Speaker 2: still learning Japanese and I feel like I'm in the
Speaker 2: just rudimentary Japanese still, And I know that that robot
Speaker 2: mispronounced the word yokoso. Yokoso is like welcome, and it's
Speaker 2: pronounced yokos, not yokoso. Yokoso has a totally different meaning.
Speaker 2: So as advanced as these things are, it still can't
Speaker 2: pronounce one of the first words you learn when you're
Speaker 2: learning Japanese. I don't have much confidence that these things
Speaker 2: can do anything but distract and mislead us, and especially
Speaker 2: when they're presented as being it's Plato, it's highly intelligent.
Speaker 2: I mean Plato was also if you read his writings,
Speaker 2: he was also kind of a eugenicist. So I don't
Speaker 2: know if I really want Plato teaching my kids anything.
Speaker 2: And I certainly don't want people that design weapons of
Speaker 2: war and advocate for religious holy war designing robots and
Speaker 2: putting them in my house so that the police can
Speaker 2: show up. Since the robot heard me saying, you know,
Speaker 2: I really don't support this warrant Iran and then I
Speaker 2: get arrested for being you know, anti American or something.
Speaker 2: I just don't trust it on that basis alone. As
Speaker 2: an issue of privacy. And yes, I understand that I
Speaker 2: have a phone. I try to turn that off, keep
Speaker 2: that enough pouch and put that off to the side,
Speaker 2: and not try not to talk too much around it.
Speaker 2: I just don't want to bring something like that into
Speaker 2: my home, or I shouldn't bring that into school. Who's
Speaker 2: going to pay for that too, by the way, because
Speaker 2: schools already can't afford like some schools can't afford like
Speaker 2: basic supplies. What school's going to put a robot in there?
Speaker 2: And what are you going to? What are they going
Speaker 2: to do? What are these kids? Teachers can't even break
Speaker 2: up school fights if they try to, they can get sued.
Speaker 2: What are they going to? The school doesn't have money
Speaker 2: to deal with the lawsuits? They don't have money to
Speaker 2: pay teachers what they what they probably deserve. In some
Speaker 2: cases they probably don't deserve it. But like the schools
Speaker 2: can't afford to put these robots in there. A friend
Speaker 2: of mine writer, I don't know if I told you this,
Speaker 2: but a friend of mine, his brother put an order
Speaker 2: in for one of these. I don't know. It's a
Speaker 2: different kind of robot, but it's very similar to this.
Speaker 2: This thing was like twenty five thousand dollars for someone
Speaker 2: like us to buy it. I don't I mean, how
Speaker 2: many teachers are in a school. Is you think schools
Speaker 2: that don't have money for anything but a football program
Speaker 2: are going to spend all that money on robots? How
Speaker 2: are you going to sink all that The kids are
Speaker 2: just going to trash them. I want to smash it.
Speaker 2: I see those little robots delivering food. When I lived
Speaker 2: in Tucson, I wanted to smash the things. I'm not
Speaker 2: an adolescent. What a kid's going to do to them?
Speaker 2: It's just so stupid as far as I'm concerned, such
Speaker 2: a waste of money and resources.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing is that the government. You're going
Speaker 1: to sign a grant with the government and then the
Speaker 1: government is going to lease the schools and the states
Speaker 1: all of these robots. That's what I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. That's it, and it's going to
Speaker 2: be subsidized probably to get them in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the only way that you can do it.
Speaker 1: But there's a bunch of other stuff going on to
Speaker 1: we got. I found this phenomenon really interesting, Ryan, is
Speaker 1: that it seems like a lot of people now want
Speaker 1: to call aliens demons. Okay, we even have JD. Vance
Speaker 1: on this podcast and this gentleman is asking him when
Speaker 1: or the UFO file is gonna come out. I got
Speaker 1: the clip here, we're gonna listen to it. But it
Speaker 1: seems like that there a lot of people have been
Speaker 1: pushing this alien demon stuff and it makes absolutely no
Speaker 1: sense to me because we haven't even proven the fact
Speaker 1: that aliens even exist. Okay, there's been no proof, no
Speaker 1: evidence that aliens even exist, and now we've just kind
Speaker 1: of jumped over that. We've jumped over the proof and
Speaker 1: the evidence of proving that extraterrestrials actually exists, and then
Speaker 1: we're automatically labeling them demons. And I don't think that
Speaker 1: any of these people have ever encountered in actual what
Speaker 1: could be described as a demon or an evil spirit,
Speaker 1: because if they would have, then I don't think that
Speaker 1: they would be calling these things demons because the aliens
Speaker 1: don't exist. Extraterrestrials do not exist, and if they do,
Speaker 1: they're not coming here. It's an entire government. We've talked
Speaker 1: about this so many times, and I don't really want
Speaker 1: to get roped back into that. If people want to
Speaker 1: know my thoughts on extraterrestrials and aliens, just go back
Speaker 1: and watch all of my previous shows. I pretty much
Speaker 1: laid it out pretty easily for people to follow along.
Speaker 1: But let's listen to this clip, and I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to pause periodically through this discussion because it's around two
Speaker 1: minutes long, just to get over anything they might try
Speaker 1: and fly it for.
Speaker 5: You're gonna release all the UFO files.
Speaker 2: We're working on it.
Speaker 6: It's funny. When I came in, I was obsessed with
Speaker 6: the UFO files, and then you start getting really busy
Speaker 6: worrying about the economy and national security and things like that.
Speaker 6: But I've still got three more years as vice president.
Speaker 6: I will get to the bottom of the UFO files.
Speaker 1: How many presidents. Have we heard say that, Ryan, I'm
Speaker 1: going to get to the bottom of the UFO files.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say the exact same thing. How
Speaker 2: many times have we heard Obama, Clinton, Bush, etc. Say
Speaker 2: the exact same thing. It's a cheap way to get votes.
Speaker 1: We're going to get the bottom of this, I promise
Speaker 1: next three years, next three years.
Speaker 6: I want to do it.
Speaker 1: Whenever I'm out there running with Erica Kirk as my
Speaker 1: VP and I'm president in twenty twenty eight, that's probably
Speaker 1: going to happen.
Speaker 2: Bron Peter Tiel is the Secretary of State.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's ahead of a national security finding.
Speaker 2: That word that that blood for his veins peak.
Speaker 5: Have I what have you done a peak?
Speaker 3: You know? So?
Speaker 1: I actually haven't.
Speaker 5: I have no Dependence Day and I.
Speaker 1: Have I have.
Speaker 6: Not been able to spend enough time on this to
Speaker 6: really understand it. But I am going to trust me, I'm.
Speaker 5: Obsessed with this.
Speaker 6: I've already had a couple of times where I'm like,
Speaker 6: all right, we're going to Area fifty one, We're going
Speaker 6: out to New Mexico. We're just sort of get to
Speaker 6: the bottom of this.
Speaker 1: No, the Area fifty one thing. Again, these people think
Speaker 1: that all of the UFO secrets lie Area fifty one.
Speaker 1: That could be the only place in the United States
Speaker 1: where it possibly is what has been made infamous by
Speaker 1: bab Bleazar and bab Blazar story which Bibazar I've heard
Speaker 1: is getting ready to come back on Joe Rogan. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's true or not, if that's happening,
Speaker 1: but I saw a post on it online on social
Speaker 1: media that he's getting ready to make his triumphant return
Speaker 1: back to Jo Rogan's.
Speaker 2: Podcast, the idea of Area fifty one. My feelings are
Speaker 2: similar to yours. That's part of the narrative that's been
Speaker 2: spun by the Pentagon for how many years since Roswell
Speaker 2: It's been seventy five years of disinformation and misinformation the
Speaker 2: Robertson Panel report to the recent story from the Wall
Speaker 2: Street Journal, I believe it was about how the Pentagon
Speaker 2: was responsible for creating these UFO stories and these narratives. Now,
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that there's not an archetypical characteristic to
Speaker 2: these things, that they might not have something to do
Speaker 2: with fairies and shamans and those types of things related
Speaker 2: to alternate realities and experiences and consciousness and various substances
Speaker 2: that take you there, which they certainly do. But I
Speaker 2: don't think it has anything to do with Area fifty one.
Speaker 2: This kind of stuff from the government officials. Is it
Speaker 2: just about as silly as how about we storm Area
Speaker 2: fifty one? Oh my god, they're going to shoot us.
Speaker 2: They must be keeping the aliens a secret or you
Speaker 2: might just be walking onto a secret military base. But
Speaker 2: it's probably the it's probably the former that makes more sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people get really upset whenever I just say this
Speaker 1: stuff and then I don't, you know, provide the evidence
Speaker 1: and the proof behind it. But then whenever I provide
Speaker 1: the evidence and the proof, they just don't say anything.
Speaker 1: They're just like, oh, there's just no comments, there's just nothing.
Speaker 1: But whenever I just say it without pulling up that
Speaker 1: the Pentagon secretly planeted alien Area fifty one conspiracy theory
Speaker 1: to hide weapons program, which was a real article that
Speaker 1: came out. We did our entire show on this from
Speaker 1: the California Post. I'll bring it up. I'll bring it up.
Speaker 1: I'll bring it up just to satisfy those people that, oh,
Speaker 1: you don't know what you're talking. You need to do
Speaker 1: more research. Writer aliens are one hundred percent review. There's
Speaker 1: no shitever mean is responsible for the doing that. They
Speaker 1: would never do that in the million years. Writer, Come on,
Speaker 1: bro okay right here it is Pentagon secretly planet Area
Speaker 1: fifty one UFO conspiracy theory, the high Classified Weapons Program
Speaker 1: bombshell report.
Speaker 2: Although it's not really a bombshell report from the Wall
Speaker 2: Street Journal because that theory has been around on every
Speaker 2: Discovery History Channel show I've ever watched in my life.
Speaker 2: That the UFO story was pushed to cover up for
Speaker 2: SR seventy one F one seventeen. Actually I see that
Speaker 2: in the article F one seventeen Nighthawk, and of course
Speaker 2: those stories that the Pentagon planted. It was all part.
Speaker 2: It was part of a very very large dis and
Speaker 2: misinformation campaign which also included it also included the idea
Speaker 2: that there is something that we can't explain, we don't
Speaker 2: know what it is, and we should monitor UFO groups
Speaker 2: in case they find out what it is before we do,
Speaker 2: or before other countries figure out what it is before
Speaker 2: we do, which is kind of left out of the equation.
Speaker 2: There is something there, what is it? It could be plasma,
Speaker 2: it could be some atmospheric phenomenon, or it could be
Speaker 2: it could be anything something we haven't identified in the
Speaker 2: physical visible world. We're still learning a lot about the
Speaker 2: world all the time. We're finding new things, and there's
Speaker 2: probably things that maybe it's plasma, maybe it's something else.
Speaker 2: There's probably something above us. There's probably something out there,
Speaker 2: which then takes us to what jade Vance is saying,
Speaker 2: because when people talk about demons and aliens, first of all,
Speaker 2: it's based on a very rigid religious belief, and that
Speaker 2: religious belief for Christians is strange to me because in
Speaker 2: the same way that Christians tend to support, evangelicals tend
Speaker 2: to support Israel, and they tend to support the destruction
Speaker 2: of ala Axa and the building of the Temple, which
Speaker 2: would just eradicate the teachings and the sacrifice of Christ
Speaker 2: and bring back animal sacrifice. So it's kind of contrary
Speaker 2: to Christianity. It's the same thing with demons, because Evangelical
Speaker 2: Christians tend to be kind of different types of Christians
Speaker 2: than Catholics, and it's from Catholic faith where we derive
Speaker 2: a lot of these more classical demons. So it's very
Speaker 2: confusing where all this stuff gets grouped together. And then
Speaker 2: if you actually pull it apart and zoom out, the
Speaker 2: word demon comes from Damon right. So it's a spirit.
Speaker 2: It's something between God and man, which is the spirit.
Speaker 2: It's the soul. It's that voice that you hear inside
Speaker 2: of you. It's the real you. I am the I
Speaker 2: am It is what Chrishna says in the bagabad Gita
Speaker 2: or what the old the old Sanskrit, there's a term
Speaker 2: for it meaning that I am that or I am
Speaker 2: that that I am something to that effect in the
Speaker 2: Old Sanskrit, and that the idea is, it's the soul,
Speaker 2: it's the spirit. And that's why Jesus is the son
Speaker 2: of God. He's not just a man. He's also not God.
Speaker 2: He's the son of God. And that's what the soul is.
Speaker 2: The soul is the son of God. We are souls
Speaker 2: in bodies. And that idea gets roped into UFO stuff too,
Speaker 2: because the aliens are here to steal our souls that
Speaker 2: were just containers in the grays, or eating our souls
Speaker 2: or something like that. You've heard before. It's a lot
Speaker 2: of things that you could probably understand better if you
Speaker 2: read not you or your audience writer, but just generally speaking,
Speaker 2: if you just read like really basic myths, really basic mythology,
Speaker 2: you could probably understand it better if you just read
Speaker 2: Joseph a little bit of Joseph Campbell, or a little
Speaker 2: bit of a little bit of Carl Young. He had
Speaker 2: his own interesting perspectives on UFOs. But the bottom line
Speaker 2: and what the point I'm getting at is that to
Speaker 2: say that aliens or demons is to first of all,
Speaker 2: as you said, it's to misunderstand what UFO disclosure is,
Speaker 2: and that is they've disclosed nothing new except that there's
Speaker 2: things that can't identify, which does not mean that they're alien.
Speaker 2: And two, whatever this thing is we're dealing with, it
Speaker 2: can't be demons by the Christian definition, because the demon,
Speaker 2: by the Christian definition, was basically anything that was not Christian.
Speaker 2: Everything that was not Christian was idle worship. Everything that
Speaker 2: was not Christian, even if Christianity was derived from it
Speaker 2: or evolved from it, was considered an enemy of Christianity.
Speaker 2: That included music, nice clothing. The early Church was actually
Speaker 2: very communistic, quite literally communistic, and quite Marxist in some
Speaker 2: ways as well. You had to give all your wealth
Speaker 2: to the church. It was a cult basically that's not
Speaker 2: to denigrate the Church. I'm just a Christianity. I'm just
Speaker 2: saying that the early Church was precisely that. And so
Speaker 2: the again, the underline point I'm getting that here is
Speaker 2: if you're going to argue that they're demons, you're just
Speaker 2: by definition wrong because it can't. They can't be demons
Speaker 2: if the demon is the voice inside of you. Now,
Speaker 2: they might be something that's more monstrous or more hollywood esque,
Speaker 2: but that's not the point here. The point is to
Speaker 2: claim that they're demons is to fundamentally misunderstand your own religion,
Speaker 2: if you're a Christian specifically, and to fundamentally misunderstand what
Speaker 2: the word demon means, the damon the spirit inside of you,
Speaker 2: and to misunderstand that and to extrapolate it and externalize
Speaker 2: it is just the height of like laughable ignorance, That's
Speaker 2: my assessment of it.
Speaker 1: Regardless of the terminology that we use on this, people
Speaker 1: will refer to them as demons. Demons are not a
Speaker 1: physical entity, Okay, And just because you someone calls them demons,
Speaker 1: they think that they're referring to one thing, but they're
Speaker 1: actually referring to something completely different. Evil spirits do exist
Speaker 1: I have encountered them. I know what they are, I
Speaker 1: know how they feel. They're psychological. They want to mess
Speaker 1: with you psychologically, they want to break your mind. That's
Speaker 1: what an evil spirit is. Evil spirit is psychological. It's
Speaker 1: there to degrade you, berage you make, you make decisions
Speaker 1: in your life that are not in your best trajectory
Speaker 1: where you should be going, and wants to take you back.
Speaker 1: It must to pull you back and wants you to
Speaker 1: essentially destroy you from within. So that's my definition of
Speaker 1: what people would personify as a demon, and I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure that you would. I agree with some of that
Speaker 1: because I feel like that you have also experienced certain
Speaker 1: things like that. Now we can use different terminology and
Speaker 1: call them different things, but evil entities do exist in
Speaker 1: my opinion one percent.
Speaker 2: Yes, I've had my own experiences with those things. I
Speaker 2: actually had a brief interview with Linda Moulton how at
Speaker 2: one point, who I think she's kind of lost her marbles, honestly,
Speaker 2: But I had an interview with her one time where
Speaker 2: I told her my experience and she told me that
Speaker 2: there were other people who had talked to her about
Speaker 2: that journalistic point of view, having had the same experiences
Speaker 2: when they were younger, and I didn't see that as
Speaker 2: verification of like some confirmed belief. I just happened to
Speaker 2: be talking to her and told her that, and they
Speaker 2: were very weird, niche things that I remembered experiencing. And
Speaker 2: then she said, oh, a lot of other people have
Speaker 2: told me very similar things, and then you. I talked
Speaker 2: to one time writer and you told me something so similar.
Speaker 2: So there is a parallel. I don't know if that's
Speaker 2: the unconscious mind. I don't think everything can be reduced
Speaker 2: to Youngian psychology, but some of it certainly can. And
Speaker 2: I want to give you an example of what we're
Speaker 2: talking about here. I pulled This is one of those
Speaker 2: things that if you're interested in demons, get a book
Speaker 2: on demonology. And yeah, there are some really recent ones
Speaker 2: that have been written, but I would if you can
Speaker 2: find a copy. This is like a special edition. But
Speaker 2: if you can find an old copy of this or
Speaker 2: a you can find a PDF of this online for free.
Speaker 2: This is the most authoritative source ever written on demons.
Speaker 2: This is this is the demonology source. This is where
Speaker 2: most of the modern depictions of demons. This is where
Speaker 2: most of the modern descriptions and definitions of demons come
Speaker 2: from it's calling de Plancy's Dictionary Infernal. I have this
Speaker 2: two volume leather bound set, most expensive book I own,
Speaker 2: books I own, And if you go through it and
Speaker 2: read it, well, just example, we'll read this little tiny
Speaker 2: It's like two sentences about Bohemoth, the elephant with this
Speaker 2: very very large belly. It says this, It says a
Speaker 2: demon who in this is Behemoth, a demon who, in
Speaker 2: spite of his dignities, is heavy and stupid. His strength
Speaker 2: is in his loins. His domains are greed and the
Speaker 2: pleasures of the belly. Now, obviously there isn't an elephant
Speaker 2: with a giant belly who's really greedy and eats a lot.
Speaker 2: It's symbolic, it's a metaphor, and like you were saying,
Speaker 2: it's the spirit, the thing that possesses you. In traditional demonology,
Speaker 2: the thing that possesses you originally was a disease. So
Speaker 2: if you knew the name of the disease, you could
Speaker 2: expel the source of that. So today we would say
Speaker 2: COVID be gone, and we would use a plunger to
Speaker 2: put a put a thing into somebody, to put a
Speaker 2: shot into somebody, And we have our mantras and we
Speaker 2: have our white lap coats. Well in the old world,
Speaker 2: that's what they did too, they just didn't call it.
Speaker 2: I mean maybe in a way they did refer to
Speaker 2: as modern medicine. But when you had an exorcism, you
Speaker 2: have you know, you'd have a cross, and they still
Speaker 2: do these today, the Church does. But you have a cross,
Speaker 2: that's your plunger looks like a cross. And then you
Speaker 2: have your holy water, which is the little vial of
Speaker 2: what we call inoculation. And then the white robes of
Speaker 2: the doctor are the robes of the priest, and we
Speaker 2: exercise the demon Behemoth begone or Covid begone, and so
Speaker 2: Behemoth clearly is representative of here is the pleasure of
Speaker 2: the belly, so that would be gluttony. And then he's greedy,
Speaker 2: so that would be greeting gluttony. Those are two of
Speaker 2: the seven deadly sins. That's where this is derived from.
Speaker 2: And so if you were to read this, like if
Speaker 2: you're really interested in demonology, read a book on it.
Speaker 2: Don't go to YouTube, don't go to Instagram, don't go
Speaker 2: to TikTok, don't go to Reddit, Go get one of
Speaker 2: the authoritative sources on it from people that actually know
Speaker 2: what they're talking about, like Colin de Plancy, And if
Speaker 2: you read this, it becomes very clear immediately that we're
Speaker 2: not talking about literalisms. We're talking about figurative things. And
Speaker 2: so in the same way that we call alcohol spirits,
Speaker 2: people have bastardized interpretation too. They use the term alcohol
Speaker 2: alcohol and they say, well, that's where the word alcohol
Speaker 2: comes from. It doesn't in Arabic, but the word spirit.
Speaker 2: The idea of the spirits, like the gin kind of
Speaker 2: sounds like gin. Let you drink the spirits. That's what
Speaker 2: we call them spirits, because when you drink alcohol, you
Speaker 2: act differently. Some people act kinder and nicer. Some people
Speaker 2: take a drink it pass out, they're a lightweight. And
Speaker 2: some people can drink excessively and have very few reactions.
Speaker 2: And like, I don't drink myself, but once in a
Speaker 2: while I will have a glass of sake and I
Speaker 2: feel nothing from it. I don't feel warm and fuzzy,
Speaker 2: I don't feel lightheaded, I don't feel loopy. If I
Speaker 2: drink a bunch of it, no reaction. Some people drink
Speaker 2: a ton and they get really violent. And so in
Speaker 2: the ancient world, you drank a bunch, you got really violent,
Speaker 2: you got really rowdy, you started grabbing on people, you
Speaker 2: started you know, you vomited, you started stumbling around. Oh
Speaker 2: my god. They're possessed by a demon, by a spirit.
Speaker 2: It must be the spirit in this drink that they drink.
Speaker 2: So that's why we called it spirits, because they're possessed
Speaker 2: by something. But really, if you read the stories of
Speaker 2: Dionysus or Bacchus, the gods of wine in Greece and Rome,
Speaker 2: it's it's actually, it's actually science. It's not really so
Speaker 2: superstitious because the way that Bacchus and Dionysus are described
Speaker 2: is is they're describing in the myths how alcohol is
Speaker 2: processed by the body. Monsters angry, like when someone's turned
Speaker 2: into a werewolf, or someone's turned into you know, a
Speaker 2: witch is familiar you, and you begin to act like
Speaker 2: the associated corresponding animal. You begin to act like a wolf,
Speaker 2: you begin to act like a cat, feline. So all
Speaker 2: of that is important because if you don't understand, like
Speaker 2: two sentences in the Central Source of what one particular
Speaker 2: demon is described as, then you have no business that
Speaker 2: aliens are demons, Because we don't even know what an
Speaker 2: alien is. First of all, as you said. The second
Speaker 2: of all, as I'm describing it, can't be a demon
Speaker 2: because a demon is not in the interpretations contemporary times,
Speaker 2: is not the same as where like the original depictions
Speaker 2: and ideas of demons came from, which was metaphor and allegory.
Speaker 1: Sorry I accidentally brought that up. One hundred percent agree
Speaker 1: with you. Let's finish up this JD Vance interview workout.
Speaker 6: But trust me, anybody who's curious about this, I'm more
Speaker 6: curious than anybody, and I've got three years of the
Speaker 6: very tippy.
Speaker 1: Top of the classification.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 5: Okay, so you haven't been in an area fifty one yet?
Speaker 5: Not yet?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Hangar eighteen, Right, Hangar eighteen, another one from right Patterson
Speaker 1: Air Force Base.
Speaker 2: Thanks Jimmy Church. I know Jimmy Church helps spread that
Speaker 2: nonsense and more contemporary times. There's a TV show about it,
Speaker 2: Hangar eighteen.
Speaker 6: I've heard that as well, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: I haven't looked into it yet.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, all right, Well we're waiting for we
Speaker 5: saw alien.
Speaker 1: I don't think there.
Speaker 6: I don't think they're aliens. I think they're demons anyway,
Speaker 6: but that's a longer discussion.
Speaker 5: Well, I can't let you go without it.
Speaker 1: There was That was the bombshell. He does anything that
Speaker 1: they're aliens, they're actually demons.
Speaker 2: Isn't it interesting that you can say, or jd. Vance
Speaker 2: Freather can say, I don't know what they are. I
Speaker 2: haven't looked into it. I'll get to the bottom of it, though,
Speaker 2: so I he has no answers, but I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: that they're demons. If you don't, you don't know what
Speaker 2: it is, you haven't looked into it. How can you
Speaker 2: even have an assessment of it. I don't understand how
Speaker 2: that works. I've never read it. But my interpretation is
Speaker 2: the book is often.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter Ryan, it's demons. That's all you need
Speaker 1: to know.
Speaker 2: Have you considered that this factors into this new quote
Speaker 2: I'll say in air quotes religious revitalizing of the United States.
Speaker 2: We're going to rededicate the country to God and Christ
Speaker 2: is king. I think this factors into it. As a
Speaker 2: kind of semi sophisticated form of propaganda, get people riled
Speaker 2: up about, Oh, their demons are attacking us. They're probably Muslims.
Speaker 2: They're going to crash UFOs into buildings, is what I
Speaker 2: would expect them to say at some point.
Speaker 1: Well, I believe that Luella Zondo was the first person
Speaker 1: on this bandwagon. You don't remember that from around two
Speaker 1: years ago where you said that the aliens or demons.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, this was also pushed in the Dan Fara documentary,
Speaker 2: right the age of disclosure. They were talking about that
Speaker 2: in this documentary too.
Speaker 1: I didn't watch that documentary.
Speaker 2: It's oh yeah, well you didn't miss anything. You if
Speaker 2: you've ever watched a ufhot documentary, it was basically the
Speaker 2: same documentary but just released more recently. It was the
Speaker 2: same people and most people that have been caught selling
Speaker 2: the most absurd lies. I mean Louis E. Lazondo and
Speaker 2: to the Stars Academy. They promised to build spaceships and
Speaker 2: they took all the money and never build anything with it.
Speaker 2: There's a whole bunch of that happening on the internet,
Speaker 2: happening in the UFO community. But there's a bunch of that.
Speaker 2: And Dan Farr is the guy. He went on Joe
Speaker 2: Rogan and he told Joe Rogan, He's like, you know,
Speaker 2: I think that Donald Trump's going to be the disclosure president.
Speaker 2: And then I mean it was like what seventy two
Speaker 2: hours later, suddenly everybody's, Oh, Trump's going to disclose the UFOs.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, because Dan Farres said that on Joe
Speaker 2: Rogan and a lot of people watched Joe Rogan and
Speaker 2: got the idea and then started repeating it. And then
Speaker 2: suddenly the president's daughter said, Oh, yeah, he's thinking about
Speaker 2: disclosing it. So was Dan Farr a plant to plant
Speaker 2: that idea in the minds of the public, or was
Speaker 2: the idea just like genuinely, Like was it genuine the
Speaker 2: presidents and Dan Farr just happened to know that. I
Speaker 2: don't think that's the case. I think it was a plant.
Speaker 2: I think it's propaganda. I don't buy it. I don't
Speaker 2: believe it, and I certainly wouldn't trust a government that's
Speaker 2: lied to me for seventy five years about something suddenly
Speaker 2: tell me that it's true. I don't know why people
Speaker 2: think that that's a good idea, because they're going to
Speaker 2: feed you that you want to hear, Which goes back
Speaker 2: to that Wall Street Journal article, the one that you
Speaker 2: pulled up. The New York Post version of the Wall
Speaker 2: Street Journal article. If you trust the government they're going
Speaker 2: to disclose aliens or UFOs, but you don't trust that
Speaker 2: they ran to disinfo campaign. But if the same Wall
Speaker 2: Street Journal had published aliens are real, that's the headline,
Speaker 2: you would believe it. So you'll believe it if it
Speaker 2: confirms your belief, but you won't believe it if it
Speaker 2: doesn't confirm your belief. We're dealing with a lot of
Speaker 2: faith here, more than fact or reality.
Speaker 1: Writer, As you know, that is the way that it
Speaker 1: is with everything. People want their confirmation bias to be confirmed,
Speaker 1: and if it's not, then they don't want to hear it.
Speaker 1: But this gentleman is getting ready to get into that
Speaker 1: exchange with Obama.
Speaker 5: Here in jd Evans, Barack Obama is on this podcast
Speaker 5: and he goes, yeah, aliens are real, but like here's
Speaker 5: where they're not. And you know, so Obama says, he
Speaker 5: gets asked point like ali are aliens really?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah?
Speaker 5: And he goes, but they're not an area fifty one
Speaker 5: and where are they?
Speaker 1: Right? There's a great question.
Speaker 5: Okay, so you think they're demons.
Speaker 6: Well, look, I think that celestial beings who fly around,
Speaker 6: who do weird things to people. I think that the
Speaker 6: desire to describe everything celestial, everything is otherworldly, to describe
Speaker 6: it as aliens. I mean, every great world religion, including Christianity,
Speaker 6: the one that I believe in, has has understood that
Speaker 6: there are weird things out there, and there are things
Speaker 6: that are very difficult to explain, and and I naturally
Speaker 6: go when I hear about sort of extra natural phenomenon,
Speaker 6: That's where I go to. Is the Christian understanding that
Speaker 6: extra natural?
Speaker 1: Is that a new word? I don't know if I've
Speaker 1: ever heard anyone ever say that extra natural? Is that
Speaker 1: a new species of aliens?
Speaker 2: Ryan, Yeah, I've never heard that he Maybe he misspoke,
Speaker 2: or maybe they've coined yet another new term. It's UAPs
Speaker 2: an extra natural phenomenon. It's no longer UFOs and.
Speaker 4: The like.
Speaker 1: It's extra natural, extra extra Come get your natural.
Speaker 2: It's like extra strength or you want long lasting or
Speaker 2: extra strength.
Speaker 1: Time to make aliens more menacing. I know what we'll do.
Speaker 1: We'll just add extra onto the front of it, extra natural,
Speaker 1: extra aliens.
Speaker 2: This particular interview, just for the record, this is Benny Johnson, right.
Speaker 2: I see the Benny shows as Benny Johnson Benny Johnson.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know who he used to
Speaker 2: work for. He used to be a director for Turning
Speaker 2: Point USA. And a lot of the people that work
Speaker 2: for Turning Point USA or still do work for Turning
Speaker 2: Point USA, like Josh Hammer. They're all in on this,
Speaker 2: and they're all repeating the same types of talking points,
Speaker 2: whether it's about Iran, or it's about Islam, or it's
Speaker 2: about UFOs and aliens, or it's about the involvement of everybody,
Speaker 2: including the Chinese involved in Charlie Kirk's death, with the
Speaker 2: only exception, of course being Israel. These people are all
Speaker 2: either directly consciously aware paid agents, or they are filling
Speaker 2: a space not maybe not fully being aware of what
Speaker 2: they're doing, or they're sincere beliefs. They're filling a space,
Speaker 2: a void that was created with both the death of
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk and with the movement, the Rise and the
Speaker 2: movements that have come into existence with what we call
Speaker 2: like the modern conservative or modern Christian Conservative revitalizing of
Speaker 2: the United States. I don't know why people just wake
Speaker 2: up one day and they're like, oh, Benny Johnson, I
Speaker 2: should watch him and listen to him, because my YouTube
Speaker 2: or my Instagram, and my ex told me that I
Speaker 2: should watch him.
Speaker 1: That's why these.
Speaker 2: People get famous. They don't get famous because they have
Speaker 2: anything to say. This guy is one of the most
Speaker 2: boring entertainer influencers I've ever watched. There's something about him
Speaker 2: that just bothers me. He looks like, I don't want
Speaker 2: to use the term fed, but he looks like he's
Speaker 2: not organic, he's synthetic. And it's back to that childish
Speaker 2: way that we look at things in the United States.
Speaker 2: We just turn on social media. Oh that's telling me
Speaker 2: to watch this video, so I'll watch it, and that
Speaker 2: becomes your perspective on the world. And Benny Johnson, as
Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned, is just a hack repeating the
Speaker 2: same talking points that Erica Kirk and all the other
Speaker 2: people like Dan Farr and all the other podcasters reputing.
Speaker 2: There's like no independent thought in any of this writer.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, Penny Johnson isn't real.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the opposite end of the spectrum, right
Speaker 2: He's AI. He's fake. He's a robot. And actually, I
Speaker 2: did you see people comparing the robot walking with Malania
Speaker 2: Trump to videos of Joe Biden walking o mg xplanation
Speaker 2: Mark Spationmark, Joe Biden was actually a robot because they
Speaker 2: walked in a similar way, you know, not very coherently.
Speaker 2: Maybe he was.
Speaker 1: Something was going on with Joe Biden. Bro I don't
Speaker 1: know what that was, but uh, something where was happening?
Speaker 1: He did not look like he was the same guy.
Speaker 1: Could be my eyes, could be something going on, But
Speaker 1: I would have to agree with a theorist on that one.
Speaker 1: I don't think that that one was Joe Biden. But
Speaker 1: did you see that Erica Well, the Charlie Kirk's mentor,
Speaker 1: his early mentor, Jeff Webb, died in a freak pickleball accident.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a I didn't know you could die
Speaker 2: in it pickable accident. What he do swallow the pickleball
Speaker 2: and choke? I don't understand how that happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just dies an eye in a freaking pickleball accident.
Speaker 1: And this is another one of those that is really
Speaker 1: weird and really strange that no one really talked about
Speaker 1: because he didn't know if it was real or not.
Speaker 1: But apparently he fell during a pickleball accident and then
Speaker 1: die later due to complications with the fall that he yet,
Speaker 1: but I don't understand how you get Can you really
Speaker 1: fall that hard and then die?
Speaker 2: I mean, I suppose if you fell in a way
Speaker 2: that was, you know, a weird angle or something, and
Speaker 2: maybe I mean, if you have heart problems. I used
Speaker 2: to have issues. If I bent down the wrong way,
Speaker 2: my heart would go into like attacking cardia. So I
Speaker 2: mean that kind of a thing could happen. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but it seems it seems strange that people like Josh
Speaker 2: Hammer Turning Point USA, we're repeating Laura Lumer talking points
Speaker 2: and repeating Israeli talking points, and it seems strange that
Speaker 2: Earlely Kirk's mentor dies in a weird pickleball accident. And
Speaker 2: it seems strange that Benny Johnson, who's also Turning Point USA,
Speaker 2: is pushing the narrative. Oh my god, I had no idea.
Speaker 2: What do you think, mister Vice president? Almost flamboyant, like
Speaker 2: just kind of pretending to play a part that UFOs
Speaker 2: are actually like run by demons. I think it's again,
Speaker 2: it's part of that, it's part of a theological religious thing.
Speaker 2: It's part of the same apocalyptic script that's being played
Speaker 2: out in Iran. I haven't been able to figure out
Speaker 2: exactly what the endgame is, but I think that's that
Speaker 2: it's very connected to it.
Speaker 1: Well, we have a lot of interesting people because we
Speaker 1: are on the topic of UFOs and weird and strange
Speaker 1: anomalies here. We've had a lot of people go missing
Speaker 1: here as of late. And I'm going to bring up
Speaker 1: this article here by the Daily Mail. Another woman tied
Speaker 1: to US scientific secrets vanishes. The case in New Mexico,
Speaker 1: a mother who vanished without a trace last year has
Speaker 1: now been connected to the mysterious death and disappearance of
Speaker 1: five other key scientists and defense officials throughout the United States. Okay,
Speaker 1: this seems to be a growing thing that's happening. Her
Speaker 1: disappearance has taken the number of people from the scientific
Speaker 1: community potentially holding highly sensitive secrets who have gone missing
Speaker 1: or died since June twenty twenty five to six. Of
Speaker 1: those six, five have had nuclear research or missile technology,
Speaker 1: and four of them can now be shown to have
Speaker 1: some type of connection to each other. This latest one
Speaker 1: went missing just four days after the respected NSA NASA
Speaker 1: scientist Monica Rizza mysteriously disappeared while hiking with friends in California,
Speaker 1: both women who had worked at facilities with ties to
Speaker 1: retired Air Force General William Neil was also vanished near
Speaker 1: a hiking trail in Albuquerque, New Mexico, on February twenty seventh,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. All these people are just going missing, Ryan,
Speaker 1: all these scientists, they have been tied to Los Aladmost labs,
Speaker 1: and they're just going missing. It seems like a very
Speaker 1: popular trend for these people to just end up missing.
Speaker 1: There's actually another one that I have a video of.
Speaker 7: One of cal Tech's top scientists was shot to death
Speaker 7: on his own front porch. Deputy SA they found sixty
Speaker 7: seven year old Carl Grillmeyer dead at his home in
Speaker 7: the Antelope Valley early Monday morning. They were responding to
Speaker 7: a report of an assault with the deadly weapon, and
Speaker 7: they were able to find the suspect when they got
Speaker 7: a carjacking call nearby. Grollmeyer was an award winning astronomer
Speaker 7: and was one of the first to discover water on
Speaker 7: a distant planet. More recently, he was tracking comments and
Speaker 7: asteroids that might collide with Earth.
Speaker 2: One of Caltech's top signed that is from February for
Speaker 2: the record. February sixteenth, I believe was the date.
Speaker 1: That one was weird bro. They just straight up killed
Speaker 1: that guy.
Speaker 2: So he was NASA Caltech, and I believe I don't
Speaker 2: know if they had any connection, but I believe Nuno Larrero,
Speaker 2: the director of MIT plasma Science and the Fusion Center,
Speaker 2: they were also murdered in December last year. And I
Speaker 2: don't know if those two things are connected. They might
Speaker 2: be unrelated to the other four people that have gone missing,
Speaker 2: because the other four people, at least three of them.
Speaker 2: Be sure that the Air Force retired US Air Force
Speaker 2: Major General William McCasland, and I know for sure it
Speaker 2: was Melissa Cassius, which is the girl in the article
Speaker 2: that you were just reading. They had their reportedly had
Speaker 2: their phones wiped, factory reset, and the Melissa girl had
Speaker 2: I think it was both her child and her husband.
Speaker 2: They were I guess maybe both suspicious the way that
Speaker 2: she acted the day that she dropped her husband off
Speaker 2: at work, who worked at Los Alamo. I believe it
Speaker 2: was what Los Almo was, the same place she worked.
Speaker 2: And then I think it was maybe it was a school.
Speaker 2: She took lunch to her daughter and they said she
Speaker 2: was acting really strange and then she just vanished, And
Speaker 2: it makes me think. My point is the four people
Speaker 2: that vanished might not be connected to the people that died,
Speaker 2: or they got the memo. You either quote die and
Speaker 2: we disappear you, or we just kill you. You're gonna
Speaker 2: come with us, or we maybe will kill your face.
Speaker 2: You're gonna come with us and you're gonna do what
Speaker 2: we tell you to do. I would expect this to
Speaker 2: be some sort of program, some sort of black operation.
Speaker 2: It might it might even involve foreign countries, because we
Speaker 2: had Charles Lieber at Harvard working for the Chinese. It
Speaker 2: might involve a foreign country. It could be I would
Speaker 2: never think it was Russian, because we're always told it's Russian.
Speaker 2: I would probably think it's another country. But it could
Speaker 2: be a foreign country. And I did not know you
Speaker 2: just played that video, Wrider. I did not know that
Speaker 2: Carl Grillmer. I just knew that he was doing something
Speaker 2: with Moon science, the Moon a Lisa project, I think
Speaker 2: is what they called it. I did not know that
Speaker 2: he was someone that had tracked what was at asteroids.
Speaker 2: So then you got nuclear people disappearing, and you got
Speaker 2: someone tracking asteroids being killed. Kind of sounds like a
Speaker 2: don't look up scenario or a twenty twelve Rollin Emrick
Speaker 2: movie scenario where they kill the people that talk about
Speaker 2: the impending cataclysmic event prevent the public from panicking before
Speaker 2: it's all destroyed. I'm not saying that's what I believe.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's kind of weird that, you know,
Speaker 2: all the stories and all the Hollywood movies, the nuclear
Speaker 2: stuff is how we destroy the asteroid, and those people
Speaker 2: are disappearing and the people tracking it have been killed.
Speaker 2: That that is another angle to this that's very weird.
Speaker 2: I don't really see how any of that has anything
Speaker 2: to do with UFOs, though.
Speaker 1: It doesn't. I think that people are falsely saying that
Speaker 1: it has to do with the UFOs so that people
Speaker 1: don't investigator, look any further or any deeper into it.
Speaker 1: You know, if it has to do with UFOs and
Speaker 1: spooky stuff, then oh, we got to leave that alone, like,
Speaker 1: you know, don't get into it, don't look into it
Speaker 1: any further. I know the six people have gone missing
Speaker 1: in very strange circumstances in the past year that are
Speaker 1: all tied to Los Alamos, and we're scientific people and
Speaker 1: was doing all but don't pay attention to it, you know,
Speaker 1: just just keep on going. We'll just slap that UFO
Speaker 1: title on so that people think that it's aliens, right,
Speaker 1: And what are we going to do about aliens? Ryan,
Speaker 1: We're going to do absolutely nothing about aliens?
Speaker 2: Or there's well not or I shouldn't say, or because
Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying, I'll add to what you're
Speaker 2: saying that there is the possibility. I just thought about
Speaker 2: this today because of the show that I did earlier
Speaker 2: this week about the White House bunker they're building under
Speaker 2: the ballroom. I don't know if you heard about that
Speaker 2: building a bunker under the ballroom. The White House released
Speaker 2: a very mysterious, indescribable picture that was really pixelated that
Speaker 2: showed the President with what appeared to be his finger
Speaker 2: on the red nuclear button. And we've had Laura Lumer
Speaker 2: among others including Josh Hammer and twenty point USA and
Speaker 2: others who have said that there's going to be a giant,
Speaker 2: tens of thousands of people dead terrorist attack carried out
Speaker 2: by the evil Muslims in the US. We had Jade
Speaker 2: Vance claiming that there's going to be tens of thousands
Speaker 2: murdered in a new clear vest that's going to detonate
Speaker 2: by some Iranian terrorists and Muslim terrorists in an American city,
Speaker 2: maybe in a shopping center, maybe in a grocery store. JD.
Speaker 2: Vance actually said that, So when you have talk about
Speaker 2: those types of things and then you have nuclear people disappearing,
Speaker 2: it would not surprise me if something like that did happen,
Speaker 2: that their disappearances are connected, just like UFOs and demons
Speaker 2: and JD vans are connected to the war in Iran,
Speaker 2: and I think Israeli propaganda, I would and more than
Speaker 2: just that, but that's a big part of it. I
Speaker 2: think that these missing scientists and military personnel are probably,
Speaker 2: if that is the case, would probably be connected to
Speaker 2: the Iran situation too. And if that something like this
Speaker 2: does happen, God forbid, they'll blame it on Iran. And
Speaker 2: it was actually some vault tech like company that wanted
Speaker 2: to quote drop the bombs themselves so that they could
Speaker 2: get you know, money back on their investment and experiment
Speaker 2: and carry out the kinds of things that they wanted
Speaker 2: to do in those facilities. I feel like that's a
Speaker 2: crazy thing to suggest and to state I'm not prophesizing
Speaker 2: it by any means. I'm just saying that, just like
Speaker 2: UFOs have a connection to all this stuff with Iran
Speaker 2: and the holy war stuff that's happening, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: that these missing scientists might have something to do with
Speaker 2: it too, if we're talking about nuclear stuff or at
Speaker 2: the very least energy, because now they're talking about just
Speaker 2: wiping out the energy grid in Iran and wiping out
Speaker 2: the desalination centers and killing ninety two million people. But
Speaker 2: I guess that's okay because God said it was fine
Speaker 2: or something. I think.
Speaker 1: So, what you're saying, Ryan is that the suitcase nukes
Speaker 1: were real.
Speaker 2: Well, Jdan, do you remember one.
Speaker 1: Story back about a year ago the suitcase nukes, the
Speaker 1: New Jersey suitcase nukes.
Speaker 2: I remember the story about the misscene material. Was that
Speaker 2: connected to the drones?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were seeing that the military drones were in
Speaker 1: the sky to scan for a suitcase nuke that another
Speaker 1: country I brought a nuke in and that's what the
Speaker 1: military drones were in the sky, and that they were
Speaker 1: worried that another country was going to detonate these nukes
Speaker 1: in New Jersey. And that's why all the military drones
Speaker 1: were above and I was scanning the ground for radioactive material.
Speaker 2: I do remember that was one of the original stories.
Speaker 2: I think. Didn't it turn out to well? They claimed
Speaker 2: it turned out to be like a I think it
Speaker 2: was like a piece of metal or something. They were
Speaker 2: actually quote tracking. It went from a suitcase nuke to
Speaker 2: that and it transformed into something else again. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I do, I do kind of remember that.
Speaker 1: I mean, the brain back out that suitcase nude brown.
Speaker 1: Do you remember when that Tesla exploded? Which one?
Speaker 2: Which one? There's so many of them that have exploded
Speaker 2: in flames.
Speaker 1: It was around that exact same time of the New
Speaker 1: Jersey drones where because Sean Ryan had that guy on
Speaker 1: that was talking about the nukes or whatever, and that
Speaker 1: the New Jersey Drones was it's the one that exploded
Speaker 1: outside of Trump Tower, I believe.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, in Vegas. I remember that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, there's definitely some at the very least loose connections
Speaker 2: between all of these things, between the UFO subject or
Speaker 2: file or narrative and then the nuclear one. Of course,
Speaker 2: there's always been a connection between those two things. There's
Speaker 2: clearly some connection between those two things and the war
Speaker 2: with the Iran and considering that the situation in Iran
Speaker 2: is openly being discussed as a whole war, and of
Speaker 2: course a holy war would imply gods and angels and
Speaker 2: demons and things from other planets or places. And maybe
Speaker 2: the Muslims they are terrorists, they're gonna fly UFOs in
Speaker 2: the buildings, or maybe the Jews are aliens and they're
Speaker 2: better than us and we should worship them. And it
Speaker 2: could be a mixture of both those things and something
Speaker 2: else that could be people creating these narratives to run
Speaker 2: psychops on the public, which is what they admittedly did
Speaker 2: at the Pentagon for seventy five years. So again we're
Speaker 2: back to that how the thing about how we can't
Speaker 2: figure out what's really what's not real? Who knows? Drives
Speaker 2: people mad?
Speaker 1: Under over sideways upside down around about who knows Ryan?
Speaker 1: Who knows Brother? But I am interested to see where
Speaker 1: all the stuff goes and where we're going to be
Speaker 1: at here soon and if this Iran war is getting
Speaker 1: ready to be I mean, Trump just said a couple
Speaker 1: of days ago that we've basically won, but yeah it
Speaker 1: we're going to deploy ground troops, Like why would we
Speaker 1: do that if we've we've already won.
Speaker 4: Oh, I think we've won. We've knocked out their navy,
Speaker 4: their air force, we've knocked out their anti aircraft, we've
Speaker 4: knocked out everything. We're roaming free. From a military standpoint,
Speaker 4: all they're doing is clogging up the straight. But from
Speaker 4: a military standpoint, they're finished.
Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't a war, it's preemptive. And then it
Speaker 2: is a war because we won it. And then it
Speaker 2: also still wasn't a war even that we won the war,
Speaker 2: and then there was threats about us straight of hor
Speaker 2: moves that we also were simultaneously in control of, and
Speaker 2: then we weren't. And then now we're gonna deploy ground
Speaker 2: troops and destroy their power and water, and then we're
Speaker 2: going to call them crazy for telling the Western world
Speaker 2: that the US and Israel have already tried to do
Speaker 2: those things with geoengineering. And then we're actually going to
Speaker 2: do it with bombs, and then we'll kill them and
Speaker 2: say it's okay and justified because they're not Christians, even
Speaker 2: though a lot of them are Christians. I'm confused by
Speaker 2: the whole thing. It's just a bunch of psychotics, schizophrenic, paranoid, delusional,
Speaker 2: religious zelots that are waging a war to fulfill some
Speaker 2: act prophecy. As far as I can tell, I'm not
Speaker 2: really invested in it. But hey, people want to slaughter
Speaker 2: each other, not my problem. I suppose it's about the
Speaker 2: only conclusion I can come to.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's that deep. It might
Speaker 1: be that Israel wants to get rid of Iran because
Speaker 1: all of the oil and the trade has to go
Speaker 1: through Iran. So if they need to reroute that trade
Speaker 1: and make that trade and the oil come through Israel,
Speaker 1: that's what I think, and I think that that's the
Speaker 1: reason why they want to take out They want to
Speaker 1: shut down the Strait of Hamuz and they want to
Speaker 1: create that in Israel, so everything from the Middle East
Speaker 1: has to come through Israel.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, be very careful with what you're saying,
Speaker 2: because you're stepping into my territory. You want to be
Speaker 2: careful saying that. That's a very anti Semitic trope. How
Speaker 2: dare you say that?
Speaker 3: Writer?
Speaker 2: But I think that what you just said kind of
Speaker 2: brings us back to UFOs because with the idea of
Speaker 2: there being an energy crisis, the idea that they're being
Speaker 2: energy lockdowns the idea of there being a lack of
Speaker 2: or very expense. There's not a lack of there's just
Speaker 2: a there's just high cost of oil. I mean, oil
Speaker 2: has still always been flowing out of Iran and Russian
Speaker 2: natural gas. They say we're putting sanctions on them, and
Speaker 2: then we of course buy things that are already contracted
Speaker 2: in the same way that you know, we say the
Speaker 2: Russians are sanctioned, but then Tucker goes to Russia and
Speaker 2: films how all these American companies are still getting their
Speaker 2: products into Russia. Just like Anthony Bourdain went to Tehran.
Speaker 2: You can't watch that video anymore on you but he
Speaker 2: went to Tehran and you just go through Tehran like
Speaker 2: we sanctioned him. But there's like Coca Cola and American
Speaker 2: companies all over the place. So sanctions apparently didn't work,
Speaker 2: they didn't take I don't know how that. I don't
Speaker 2: understand that. But I think the point is what you
Speaker 2: said about oil. Oil is a big part of it.
Speaker 2: And in regard to the energy, and I think that
Speaker 2: again that ties in with the whole UFO narrative, right,
Speaker 2: free energy and flying saucers. And there's something I can't
Speaker 2: put my finger on it. But there's a connection to
Speaker 2: that as well. And no, I don't mean that the
Speaker 2: Iranians have stargates. I find that to be utterly absurd,
Speaker 2: projects scam, a lot nonsense. But I do believe that
Speaker 2: there is a connection between the oil issue, the coming
Speaker 2: quote energy crisis, energy war, energy lockdowns, water problems. You know,
Speaker 2: Nesle and the World Economic Form been saying that for years.
Speaker 2: The same guy that ran Nestley's now running the World
Speaker 2: Economic Form. There's going to be a water war. There's
Speaker 2: definitely a connection to the UFO there as well. So
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but there's something boiling
Speaker 2: just below the surface we have. We're gonna have to
Speaker 2: crack open the shell to figure out what it is.
Speaker 2: It might crack by itself at some point. But I
Speaker 2: am more hypervigilant now about official narratives than I ever
Speaker 2: have been. I don't believe anything, nor do I believe
Speaker 2: the opposite of what I'm told. I find it all
Speaker 2: to be gaslighting and very much or welly and propaganda
Speaker 2: to say the least.
Speaker 1: Well Brother, thanks so much for coming on. Really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: A wonderful show. It's always amazing talking with you. Can
Speaker 1: you let people know where they can find you online,
Speaker 1: Plug your website, Plug your book you just wrote. You
Speaker 1: just finished a new book, correct.
Speaker 2: That's correct, A pretty big one, eight hundred pages, ten
Speaker 2: font and maybe maybe several hundred pictures, documents, records, articles,
Speaker 2: et cetera. It's called Protocols of Goiam. You can a
Speaker 2: copy of it at TST radio dot info physical and digital.
Speaker 2: And that book actually explains a lot of the Holy
Speaker 2: War religious stuff that we're talking about now. I wrote
Speaker 2: it before all of this stuff began. For the records
Speaker 2: about for a few weeks now a few months at
Speaker 2: TST radio dot info. That's we can get that or
Speaker 2: a cult arcana if you want to learn more about
Speaker 2: the demon stuff we discussed, and if you want to
Speaker 2: email me r D g A b l E. R.
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