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<v Speaker 1>Coming to you from Iconic Studio, a at proven winners,

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<v Speaker 1>Color Choice Shrubs. It's time for the Gardening Simplified radio

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<v Speaker 1>podcast and YouTube show with Stacey Hervella, me, Rick Weist,

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<v Speaker 1>and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Well, the trees

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<v Speaker 1>are going to take some much deserved time off and

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<v Speaker 1>we will benefit fall color. My favorites have always been

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<v Speaker 1>maples and dogwoods, it Ta and fother Gia which Hazel's

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<v Speaker 1>a favorite of mind and of course gink O. I

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<v Speaker 1>love Ginko trees, Viburnham, service berry, oak leaf, Hydrangea and

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<v Speaker 1>many more as favorites for fall color. And there's many

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<v Speaker 1>great choices. As a matter of fact, Stacey, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I have a new fall color favorite. Kodiak Orangevella.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, great choice. That's a great class.

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<v Speaker 1>Just beautiful and also Spice Girl Korean Spice Viburnham. That

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<v Speaker 1>would be Viburnham CARLICII. Right, yep, nailed it. I'm hot already.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a standout choice for adding spectacular fall color to

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<v Speaker 1>your landscape. And we love our fall color. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>magical time of the year. One of my favorite fall

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<v Speaker 1>color spots is Lake of the Clouds, it's in the

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<v Speaker 1>Porcupine Mountains Wilderness State Park in Michigan. Way up there

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<v Speaker 1>in the up you can see the fall color from

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<v Speaker 1>dramatic cliffs. If you're watching on YouTube, you can see

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<v Speaker 1>some of the pictures that I took, or will put

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<v Speaker 1>them in our shown notes. But Stacy, everybody has their

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<v Speaker 1>favorite fall color spot.

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<v Speaker 2>I would think, I mean, I don't, No, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like I wouldn't say that I have one particular spot

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<v Speaker 2>because it's kind of just like wherever, you know, wherever

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going. Yeah, but I do have a favorite fall

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<v Speaker 2>color tree.

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<v Speaker 1>You do.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, sugar maple.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's got to be sugar got to be sugar mapole.

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<v Speaker 1>The star of northeast US. The color is sugar maples

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<v Speaker 1>than the backbone of New England's stunning fall foliage. And

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<v Speaker 1>they're talking about its distribution possibly moving further north due

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<v Speaker 1>to climate change over the next century. So that would

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<v Speaker 1>be let's see if I get this right, Stacey, Acer sacarum.

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<v Speaker 1>That's correct, close enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and not to be confused, even though this is

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<v Speaker 2>very confusing with Acer saccharinum, which is the silver maple.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why taxonomists did this to us. They

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<v Speaker 2>must hate us. So acer saicarum, sugar maple good, acersaccharinum

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<v Speaker 2>silver maple bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it? Got it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I love sugar maples. I mean, think about maple syrup,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course the fall color. But it's claim to

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<v Speaker 1>fame actually because of its tight grain and light color.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the kind of wood that makes up twenty nine

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<v Speaker 1>of the thirty NBA hardwood basketball courts. That's what they

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<v Speaker 1>make basket.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not know that that is interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so there you go. Now it's somewhat autumnated. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you see what I did there?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I read it first, so I had at.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I had it here in my notes. The

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<v Speaker 1>timing of color production is quite consistent from year to year,

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<v Speaker 1>although unusual weather patterns can affect it, diminish or advance timing.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, this past year we dealt with some drought.

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<v Speaker 1>We want sunny days and chili nights to get the

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<v Speaker 1>anto cyanins. That's the red color. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's pretty predictable. We're going to get great yellows

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<v Speaker 1>and oranges, but that antho cyanin pigment creates the reds.

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<v Speaker 1>And if we get rainy and windy weather, it could

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<v Speaker 1>affect the color, okay, So we're looking for sunny days

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<v Speaker 1>and chilly nights and that will bring out that pigment.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, we love anthocyanins. Anto cyanins are found in

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<v Speaker 1>lots of foods like blueberries and grapes, supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>really good for you. You can get your antho cyanins

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<v Speaker 1>from a good glass of red wine. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>great fall color.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank goodness for the anthocyanins.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it now. Chrysanthemums are to fall what turkeys

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<v Speaker 1>are to Thanksgiving. Fall combinations now have become very very popular,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been hearing more and more people, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>using supertunias in fall combinations because petunias are somewhat light

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<v Speaker 1>frost tolerant. So it's a great, a great thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I like fall color in my perennials too. Hu

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<v Speaker 1>karas like the adulce toffee tart and fall in love sweetly.

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese anemonies.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Japanese and eemonies are so pretty. They can

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<v Speaker 2>be a bit rambunctious, but you know, if you put

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<v Speaker 2>them in the right spot, and they don't really make

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<v Speaker 2>a pest of themselves. You're so grateful for them because

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<v Speaker 2>those flowers are so unbelievably pretty, so abundant. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like a no rainer kind of plant. If you've

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<v Speaker 2>got the right spot for it, you're right rambunctious.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a rhizotomous type of root. They look delicate,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're very, very tough. And who needs friends when

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<v Speaker 1>you've got anemonees.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you'll need friends because you're going to want to

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<v Speaker 2>split them up and share them inspired the wealth around,

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<v Speaker 2>so you will need friends.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, there you go, And I love autumn crocus.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a true crocus. It's culture cum, a group

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<v Speaker 1>of fall flowering bulbs in the lily family. Other names

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<v Speaker 1>for these plants include meadow, saffron, Naked Lady, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course culture com.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Culture cooms are really such an amazing plant because

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<v Speaker 2>they're not a plant that you a color that you

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<v Speaker 2>expect to see in fall. They have this like really

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<v Speaker 2>crazy pastel kind of color. But the trick with culture coms,

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<v Speaker 2>especially coming off the heels of our bulbs show, is

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<v Speaker 2>that they are fall planted fall bloomers. Yes, so most

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<v Speaker 2>things that are going to plant are going to bloom

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<v Speaker 2>later in the season. You're planting in spring like Lily's

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<v Speaker 2>and that kind of thing. Whereas culture cum, you're only

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<v Speaker 2>going to find it in the fall. You're going to

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<v Speaker 2>plant it, it's going to flower, and then it puts

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<v Speaker 2>out this really ugly foliage in the spring. They get

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<v Speaker 2>super ratty looking, but you got to put up with it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's worth it because when that comes back in fall.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, that's why they call them naked ladies,

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<v Speaker 2>is because there is nothing and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>you go out one morning and there's this purple flower

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<v Speaker 2>and you're like, what, I totally forgot a planet this there.

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<v Speaker 2>They're an amazing thing, but they are a plant, I

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<v Speaker 2>think for savier gardeners who know to look for them

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<v Speaker 2>and to plant them in fall. So kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>little tricky little trick there to enjoying good culture comes.

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<v Speaker 1>And in fall, like you said, blooming with the I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to call it easter colors. Yes in fall, and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can find them. Sometimes in garden centers you'll

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<v Speaker 1>find them blooming on display right if they haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>cared for, cooled properly. But certainly a great plant to

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<v Speaker 2>So say something else interesting about culture. Yeah, so a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people don't realize this, but a chemical derived

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<v Speaker 2>from culture culture keene is the original plant mutator chemical

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<v Speaker 2>that they used to induce mutations in plant breeding. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's been a lot of changes since then, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was really the extract from colchicum that was one of

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<v Speaker 2>the first things they could treat seed and so forthwith

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<v Speaker 2>to try to induce the mutations that would bring about

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<v Speaker 2>new colors, new forms, all.

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<v Speaker 1>That kind of stuff that's fascinating, that is really cool. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we get inspired by fall color, and I get inspired

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<v Speaker 1>to write a limb of rick. So here it comes,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you're ready or not. Colors that compel a visual

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<v Speaker 1>ground swell. Fall color is the buzz. We love it

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<v Speaker 1>just because falls. Well that ends well, so growing season, goodbye.

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<v Speaker 1>The winter Season's nine, So start the coffee debate. Pumpkin

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<v Speaker 1>flavor to celebrate. Nope, no more, mister spice guy, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not into pumpkin spice. Are you do you like pumpkin spice?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I like this spice. This is that accompany

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing, But no, I do not wish

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<v Speaker 2>to have pumpkin in my coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, same here, same here, all right, Well, for more

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<v Speaker 1>color in fall. Of course, we appreciate and enjoy asters.

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned before mums and asters are just like mums.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it's important to set on your schedule to

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<v Speaker 1>pinch those guys in spring into early summer so they're shorter,

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<v Speaker 1>squattier and full of flour. In fall, pansies and viola's

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<v Speaker 1>of course, crab apples and their fruit. Wow, what great

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<v Speaker 1>fall color, and of course dogwood fruit also. Now with pansies,

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<v Speaker 1>remember the roots cannot absorb water from frozen soil, so

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<v Speaker 1>they will overwinter. But I have found that pansies perform

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<v Speaker 1>really well in the north where we get snow covered.

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<v Speaker 1>When you don't get snow cover, sometimes you can lose

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<v Speaker 1>the pansy beds because that snow is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah and dry out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's insulating for the pansies. So there's many

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful ways to add great color. And of course we

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<v Speaker 1>have ornamental kale and cabbage, swiss charred, a variety of plants.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, Stacy, I see more and more in garden centers,

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<v Speaker 1>in greenhouses, combination planters. I'm seeing more of that instead

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<v Speaker 1>of just chrysanthemal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And you know what else has become really popular

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<v Speaker 2>over the last several years is the ornamental hot peppers. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>those are very cool to see because those bring a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of color and people always say, can I eat them?

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean the answer to that is, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>if you want. They're not usually developed for flavor, so

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of times, you know, what's the breeding goal?

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<v Speaker 2>These were developed for color and containers. They might not

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<v Speaker 2>be the tastiest pepper. They might be extremely hot, they

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<v Speaker 2>might be extremely mild. But yes, in theory, if you

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<v Speaker 2>are sure that it is a pepper and not. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they even sell those Jerusalem cherries anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember those back in the day. Yeah, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a long time out. Oh but that's another new

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<v Speaker 2>cool thing that you see around.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see what colorful plant Stacy has to share with

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<v Speaker 1>us in Plants on Trial. That's coming up next here

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<v Speaker 2>gardening friends, and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show,

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<v Speaker 2>where the order of the day is fall color. You're

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<v Speaker 2>seeing it, We're seeing it. You can't go anywhere without

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<v Speaker 2>seeing it. And you know, of course you've got flowers.

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't talked a lot about flowers that are colorful

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<v Speaker 2>in fall. But you know, one thing when you're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about moms and astors and all of that in the

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<v Speaker 2>previous segment, are you familiar with the perennial Sheffield mums?

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<v Speaker 1>Sheffield mums, I've heard of it, not.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they are a fall perennial. This is not

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<v Speaker 2>today's plant on trial. But I did want to get

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<v Speaker 2>this out because you were talking about like how people

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<v Speaker 2>over winter try to grow their regular decorative mums as perennials,

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<v Speaker 2>and in many cases that is possible. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>at the market are just not suited to growing year round,

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<v Speaker 2>so people try to overwinter these things grow them permanently

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<v Speaker 2>in their garden, and it is possible. But Sheffield mums

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<v Speaker 2>are true perennials, and they have like a daisy kind

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<v Speaker 2>of shape, a pale pink kind of nice, almost fern

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<v Speaker 2>like foliage, and the most beautiful fragrance. And these are

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<v Speaker 2>true perennials that will actually spread quite nicely in your garden.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is another one, like when we were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about bulbs, when we were talking about fall berries. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>these are plants that typically suffer from the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>they don't look like much when the majority of people

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<v Speaker 2>take note of these things. Now, in fact, you might

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<v Speaker 2>still be able to get them in the garden center

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<v Speaker 2>because now they're like, well, people might actually buy these

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<v Speaker 2>since they're covered in flowers. But I would say Sheffield

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<v Speaker 2>moms are a perennial that you should definitely keep an

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<v Speaker 2>eye out for and consider adding to your garden if

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<v Speaker 2>you're looking for more flower color in fall in your garden.

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<v Speaker 2>See they're nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, they're nice, And I just looked them up.

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<v Speaker 1>They're very nice and you can buy them in a

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they just deserved. It's just one of those things,

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<v Speaker 2>like the culture, you just need to know that they're

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<v Speaker 2>out there and know what you're looking for. So We've

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<v Speaker 2>talked about flowers, we've talked about colorful fruit, and fall,

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<v Speaker 2>we've talked about colorful foliage because of course that's what

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<v Speaker 2>gets all the credit. Fall.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was munbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but you know one thing that we don't really

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<v Speaker 2>talk about is evergreens, broad leaf evergreens getting color because

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about fall foliage. And what's happening, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>is that the plant is converting taking all of that chlorophyl.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been using the chlorophyll to make energy and sugars

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<v Speaker 2>all season long, and you know, the shorter days are

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<v Speaker 2>triggering that to stop. So it translocates all of that chlorophyll,

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<v Speaker 2>stores all that energy to help it get through winter,

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<v Speaker 2>and that unmasks all the pigments that were there all along.

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<v Speaker 2>So the fall color is there under the green all

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<v Speaker 2>season long, and then the green goes away and you

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<v Speaker 2>see these amazing colors. But that's not the only way

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<v Speaker 2>that foliage can change color, because the cooler temperatures these

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<v Speaker 2>shorter days also trigger color change in some broad leaf evergreens.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you brought that up. Let me quickly ask

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<v Speaker 1>PGM rhododendric, would you agree that's great? Fall color.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, PJM. Rhododendron is an evergreen and it turns purple,

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<v Speaker 2>like a deep purple. That can be quite interesting. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that it tends to be best if you

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<v Speaker 2>set it off with something brighter. A lot of those

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<v Speaker 2>really dark colors sometimes they just become kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>black hole in the garden. But like, imagine pairing that

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<v Speaker 2>with something like Msnia hubric dii, which is like that yellow,

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<v Speaker 2>and it turns yellow really fine thread like foliage in

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<v Speaker 2>fall just beautiful. So there are these other ways that

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<v Speaker 2>fall color can develop, and you will certainly see that

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<v Speaker 2>in today's plant on trial, which is trace amigos abelia.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that plant is a chameleion.

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<v Speaker 2>It is kind of a chamelion and not like that

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<v Speaker 2>bed chameleon plant that we've been talking about a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of the summer right, totally different. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>worry about this and taking over your garden. So okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Trace Amigos, as you might be able to guess by

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<v Speaker 2>the name three Friends, is really a bunch of different

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<v Speaker 2>colors at once. It is a variegated abelia. So under

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<v Speaker 2>normal circumstances throughout the summer, the foliage is just going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a nice, tidy, kind of mint green and

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<v Speaker 2>white variegated. And I know variegation, of course, can be

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<v Speaker 2>very polarizing. Some people like it, some people don't. I

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<v Speaker 2>do think this is one of those variegations that is

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<v Speaker 2>quite neat and tidy, so people do tend to like it.

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<v Speaker 2>And in spring, again when the days are shorter and

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<v Speaker 2>the temperatures are cooler, as well as in fall, this

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<v Speaker 2>plant turns all sort of colors. You really have to

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<v Speaker 2>see it to believe it. So most notably, what you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to notice is that the top of the new

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<v Speaker 2>growth turns a bright pink, so that variegation maintains. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just that the white turns a really pretty pink and

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<v Speaker 2>just completely lights up the plant. And then as that

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<v Speaker 2>starts to age, what happens is that's turning yellow and orange,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that white margin is all lit up in

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<v Speaker 2>all of these different colors. Now that goes away during

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<v Speaker 2>the heat of summer when the days are the longest

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<v Speaker 2>and the weather is the warmest. But again in spring

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<v Speaker 2>and fall, you get this amazing development of color like

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<v Speaker 2>you really haven't seen, and that pink color it's very

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<v Speaker 2>similar to what's happening with panicle hydranges later in the

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<v Speaker 2>season too. It's just bringing about these changes in the

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<v Speaker 2>plant cells that let these colors flourish. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>people don't really consider that you can have an evergreen

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<v Speaker 2>that's still actually kind of colorful and fall.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's very cool. Yes, I guess that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>call it a chameleon.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's yeah, right. So you'll certainly see pictures of this,

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<v Speaker 2>of course if you're joining us on YouTube, or you

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<v Speaker 2>can go to our show notes at Gardening Simplified on

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<v Speaker 2>air dot com and see pictures of this, because it

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<v Speaker 2>is something that you really are going to want to

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<v Speaker 2>see for yourself. Now. I talked about Abelia a couple

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<v Speaker 2>months ago when we did our dog show, our show

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<v Speaker 2>All about Dogs, because Abelia is a very tough plant,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's an especially underappreciated plant. Now, partly

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<v Speaker 2>it's because it most abelias and Tracey and Migos is

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<v Speaker 2>no exception here are more warm or mild climate plants.

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<v Speaker 2>Tracey and Migos is hardy down to usda' Zone six

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<v Speaker 2>heat tolerant through USDA Zone nine. We have no problem

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<v Speaker 2>growing at whatsoever here in Michigan. In the cooler end

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<v Speaker 2>of its range is going to be semi evergreen, which

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<v Speaker 2>means that it's going to keep pretty much just the

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<v Speaker 2>leaves at the tips of the branches, and the inner

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<v Speaker 2>leaves will fall off and be replaced next year. In

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<v Speaker 2>milder areas than that, it will be completely evergreen and

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<v Speaker 2>you will enjoy this color change really probably all through

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<v Speaker 2>winter clear until next spring due to those cooler, cooler

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<v Speaker 2>temperatures and shorter days. But what I really Abelias are

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<v Speaker 2>great foliage plants, but I think that the flowers are

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<v Speaker 2>especially something that deserves more attention. Now I have a

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<v Speaker 2>hearty abelia in my garden. It's a variety that we

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<v Speaker 2>used to offer through proven winners called Ruby Anniversary. The

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<v Speaker 2>thing has been flowering now for a solid two and

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<v Speaker 2>a half months. The flowers are extremely fragrant, and they

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<v Speaker 2>attract butterflies, hummingbirds, and mumblebees like they are just flocking

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<v Speaker 2>to this thing. Now. With a plant like Trace a Migos,

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<v Speaker 2>because you have this variegated foliage, a lot of times

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<v Speaker 2>those flowers just get lost. Because the flowers on Trace

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<v Speaker 2>and Migos are white. They're really nice, pure white, and

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<v Speaker 2>because it's a variegated plant. You can't really, they're not

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<v Speaker 2>popping out of the foliage.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And let me ask you real quickly with the

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<v Speaker 1>white flowers, to you, does it smell like jasmine?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm yeah, you could probably say that. I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>strike one of the closest corollaries to it. It's definitely

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<v Speaker 2>like a light floral scent. I would say if I

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<v Speaker 2>had to compare it to any other flowering plant, that

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<v Speaker 2>would probably be like the closest.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's why pollinators love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, they do. And that's what's really cool about

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<v Speaker 2>this is you don't necessarily see the flowers, but you'll

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<v Speaker 2>smell the flowers, and you will see all of this

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<v Speaker 2>activity being attracted to the flowers, and so it's just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like a fun little feature. And I like

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<v Speaker 2>personally that Abelia is not one of those plants that

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<v Speaker 2>just like has its moment where it's just covered in

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<v Speaker 2>flowers and then nothing, like there's something to be said

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<v Speaker 2>for that. You should definitely have those plants in your garden,

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<v Speaker 2>but you should also have plants like Abelia that just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like always have flowers on them from everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>from like June until frost. Because it's really never without

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<v Speaker 2>some flowers. It's never like that stop you in your

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<v Speaker 2>tracks and you know, can't believe what you're seeing. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's just consistently flower I like that, like reliability, it's

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<v Speaker 2>something you can turn to and it's going to look really,

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<v Speaker 2>really great. Tracing me Abelia comes to us from mine

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<v Speaker 2>nurseries in France, where abelia tend to be a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more popular and even treated almost as like a gift plant.

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<v Speaker 2>So especially like these foliage abelias, they will sell them

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<v Speaker 2>at garden centers in colorful little pots that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of complement the foliage and just use them as

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<v Speaker 2>a tabletop decoration. You know, here we need to, oh God,

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<v Speaker 2>dig a big hole in the yard and plants your abelia.

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't quite adapted that mentality. Usually if we're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a shrub, I'm going to want to plant

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<v Speaker 2>this in my garden. I want it to be with

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<v Speaker 2>me for the rest of my life and I need

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<v Speaker 2>to be successful with it. So it kind of has

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<v Speaker 2>that novelty feature that had, you know, something that you

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<v Speaker 2>just want to buy as an impulse item, as well

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<v Speaker 2>as really fantastic presence in the landscape.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I'm going to plant it and have it

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<v Speaker 1>with me the rest of my life. Are the deer

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<v Speaker 1>going to eat it?

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<v Speaker 2>The deer are not going to eat it. So Abelia

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<v Speaker 2>is very deer resistant. The deer have never touched my

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<v Speaker 2>ruby anniversary, and I think that tends to be true

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<v Speaker 2>of the rest of the Abelias. Their foliage is. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't have like a bad smell or you know, hairs

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<v Speaker 2>or thorns or any of those things that normally deter deer.

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<v Speaker 2>But the foliage is kind of glossy and leathery, and

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<v Speaker 2>so maybe they just don't like that it's not toxic.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really know exactly what it is that they

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<v Speaker 2>don't like it for, but I will take it because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to question. They can go eat all

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<v Speaker 2>the toxic taxes that they want and leave the non

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<v Speaker 2>toxic abilia alone. That's when when for us as gardeners. So,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, this is going to be hardy down

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<v Speaker 2>to Usdzone six, heat tallerant through USDA Zone nine, definitely

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<v Speaker 2>going to benefit from some mulch because it has shallow roots.

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<v Speaker 2>If you are in zone six, I would recommend adding

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<v Speaker 2>this to your spring planting list rather than trying to

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<v Speaker 2>plant it now. But other if you're in zone seven

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<v Speaker 2>through nine, definitely plant it now. It's going to reach

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<v Speaker 2>two to three feet tall by about three to five

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<v Speaker 2>feet wide, so a nice front of the border, front

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<v Speaker 2>of the landscape. Plant for just some great color that

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<v Speaker 2>you don't really have to do anything at all to enjoy.

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<v Speaker 2>So check out our pictures at guard Simplified, on air,

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<v Speaker 2>dot com or on YouTube. And if you are interested

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<v Speaker 2>in adding Trace Amigos Abelia to your gardener landscape, make

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<v Speaker 2>sure you let your local garden center know. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>take a little break when we come back. We're opening

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<v Speaker 2>welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show, where one of

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<v Speaker 2>the ways we try to simplify gardening for you is

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<v Speaker 2>by answering your gardening questions and you can send those

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<v Speaker 2>to us at Gardeningsimplified on air dot Com. You just

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<v Speaker 2>go there. There's a contact us form and you can

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<v Speaker 2>even send us pictures if you're dealing with something that

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to need to see photos of, which is

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<v Speaker 2>always helpful. I don't know how they used to help

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<v Speaker 2>people go before digital cameras. I have no idea how

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<v Speaker 2>that works.

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<v Speaker 1>They sketch stuff out on a nap.

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<v Speaker 2>They just kind of use their psychic powers or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but we can definitely get you better

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<v Speaker 2>information if you can send us a photo. We're also

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<v Speaker 2>still have time to send us a Halloween horror story

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<v Speaker 2>if you have one. Halloween garden horror story could be anything.

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<v Speaker 2>So far, we've got some interesting ones, nothing involving you know,

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<v Speaker 2>ghosts or body parts, so but you know yet, there's

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<v Speaker 2>still a chance that you could send it to us,

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<v Speaker 2>so you can also just do that through the contact

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<v Speaker 2>format Gardenings Simplified on air dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>You never know what you're going to dig up.

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<v Speaker 2>You never do, I mean, you really don't, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually for me it's just like pieces of glass and

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<v Speaker 2>broken dishes living in an old house. But you never know.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, in Europe, you hear all the time people digging.

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<v Speaker 2>Up bombs, Yeah, bombs and World War two, Yeah, old

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<v Speaker 2>ruins and entire cities. And usually we don't have anything

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<v Speaker 2>quite like that here, but hey, let us know if

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<v Speaker 2>you did, so, do reach out to us if you

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<v Speaker 2>have a garden horror story to share, or we just

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<v Speaker 2>want to ask a question. So what's our first question?

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<v Speaker 2>You know that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Really interesting on a bilia. I have a question for

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<v Speaker 1>you to start, and that is why do lizards tell

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<v Speaker 1>great jokes? Because there's stand up chameleons. Okay, here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>I weren't like scales tail and no iguana.

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<v Speaker 1>Stand up kamelia. Okay. Question from Vicky. Any ideas on

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<v Speaker 1>why the squirrels are going crazy? This year? We've noticed

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<v Speaker 1>frantic digging by at least one squirrel in our yard.

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<v Speaker 1>The front yard is half torn up, the backyard one

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<v Speaker 1>area mainly, but holes everywhere. Plus we've observed this every

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<v Speaker 1>day all day. One morning, just before it was fully light,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a squirrel digging up the area in my backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the worst. And this behavior has been observed throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the day and into the early evening. Is this a

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<v Speaker 1>sign of extreme weather. Is it one crazy maniacal OCD squirrel? Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I've observed this, you know, and I have too,

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<v Speaker 2>although I would say for myself, I don't think that

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<v Speaker 2>the squirrel seemed to be acting any more maniacal than

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<v Speaker 2>they do every fall. My neighborhood squirrels, you know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>like yesterday I saw a squirrel sitting in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the street eating a nut, and I'm like, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>you're in the middle of the street, will you please move?

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<v Speaker 2>They're crazy, like I got eat this saint right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean, I think it all just is

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<v Speaker 2>a matter of what you're seeing and when you're seeing them,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course of the food supply, because the more

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<v Speaker 2>food that they have, the more they're going to try

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<v Speaker 2>to bury because they're trying to stockpile it all. And

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<v Speaker 2>of course squirrels are quite territorial, so I guess it

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<v Speaker 2>also depends on how much they're out competing their fellow squirrel.

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<v Speaker 2>Now in my neighborhood, I have several walnut trees, and

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<v Speaker 2>they love burying those walnuts they do, and that tastes

479
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<v Speaker 2>a pretty big hole.

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<v Speaker 1>Walnuts and of course oaks. Now I talked I interviewed

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<v Speaker 1>once a science writer from USA Today, and he explained

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<v Speaker 1>to me had written a book and he explained to

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<v Speaker 1>me that a squirrel's mental capacity actually expands in fall.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was the hippocampus or whatever, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a fifteen or twenty percent increase because they've got to

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<v Speaker 1>store away these nuts. And I still believe because when

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<v Speaker 1>I watched them, they rub it on the side of

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<v Speaker 1>their head and then they put it in the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they put their scent on these nuts

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<v Speaker 1>that they put in the ground. But last year was

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<v Speaker 1>a mass year, and I think these squirrels just innately

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<v Speaker 1>understand that, Boy, it was feast last year. Odds are

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be fam in next spring. Let's do

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of storage. And I think that's why they're

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<v Speaker 1>digging like crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, Plus, the term mass year is most

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<v Speaker 2>typically associated with oaks, but there are other trees that

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<v Speaker 2>have banner years of fruits. And so certainly if you

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<v Speaker 2>have walnuts or other things that they dig and berry

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<v Speaker 2>that are having a banner year, then yeah, they're just

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<v Speaker 2>going to have more to bury. And that's just preparation.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, the same thing happens with chickadees. That

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<v Speaker 2>that's part of Douglas Talumy's work, is that chickadee's their

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<v Speaker 2>brain enlargest so that they can remember where they stored

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<v Speaker 2>all of those little seeds and stashed them in trees

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<v Speaker 2>and so forth. But I wonder what the squirrels think

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<v Speaker 2>when they dig it up and they're like, oh, crud,

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<v Speaker 2>this was you know, this was Brad's nut that he buried.

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<v Speaker 2>Bread's a shirt. I don't want to get in his way,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And they're like, better not touch this one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll but I'll go find one that I buried. I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder what goes on in that big squirrel brain question.

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<v Speaker 1>So, I mean, think about how black walnuts staining your

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<v Speaker 1>deck or staining their drive, you know, and what does

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<v Speaker 1>it do to squirrel's teeth. I mean, man's that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good I mean, there's so many things that come to mind.

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<v Speaker 1>We better just move along.

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<v Speaker 2>You wish we could have this conversation all day.

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<v Speaker 1>We heard from two listeners that have the same symptoms

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<v Speaker 1>on two different trees. Drew writes about his Venus dogwood

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<v Speaker 1>in Toronto. Donna writes about her Temple of Bloom hepticodium

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<v Speaker 1>in Oklahoma. Both plants show the same damage. Very brown,

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<v Speaker 1>very crispy leaf edges with a touch of still healthy

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<v Speaker 1>green in the center. What's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I thought this was interesting that they

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<v Speaker 2>both came in around the same time, two different trees

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<v Speaker 2>with as you'll see on YouTube or in our shown

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<v Speaker 2>it's at Gardening Simplified on air dot Com, the damage

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<v Speaker 2>on the both plants looks see exact same. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>a simple answer in its droughtstress. And basically what's going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen when a plant starts to experience severe droughtstress

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<v Speaker 2>is of course the leaf edge has a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>potential for water loss in it, and it's also the

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<v Speaker 2>furthest point from the roots, so it's where the water

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<v Speaker 2>is going to basically stop flowing, you know. First, that's

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<v Speaker 2>where they're going to start to dry out. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>start to dry out from the center out, they start

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<v Speaker 2>to dry out from the outer edge in And I

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<v Speaker 2>think another important thing to remember about trees, especially in

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<v Speaker 2>drought stress, is that the damage actually may have occurred

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<v Speaker 2>months prior. Just because it's finally manifesting itself does not

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<v Speaker 2>mean that the damage is happening. You know, recently, people

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<v Speaker 2>ten that's often the case with plants that wilt, and

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<v Speaker 2>trees do wilt. I mean, if you are familiar with

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<v Speaker 2>a tree, you can kind of tell when it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>stressed and wilting. But I'd say for the average person,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't say, WHOA, that tree's you know, really really wilting.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an immediate response. But a lot of this browning

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<v Speaker 2>it can be cumulative. It can be due to many

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<v Speaker 2>many weeks of you know, dry weather. And remember too,

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<v Speaker 2>even if you're watering it, sometimes there's competition from neighboring trees.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of reasons why this could happen. But

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<v Speaker 2>my advice of fixing it would be to, yeah, provide

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<v Speaker 2>supplemental water. Both of these trees are fairly young as well,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're going to need a lot more water than

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<v Speaker 2>an established tree because their root systems aren't fully developed yet.

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<v Speaker 2>And mulch, mulch those babies that will help conserve so

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<v Speaker 2>so much water.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a great point that it doesn't happen overnight.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I look at the pictures, I see other

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<v Speaker 1>plants surrounding the trees that have different water needs, and

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<v Speaker 1>people have to be reminded that with these trees, just

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<v Speaker 1>a trickle watering for a few hours, a deep watering.

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<v Speaker 1>It brings up that old argument frequent light or deep infrequent,

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<v Speaker 1>And in the case of a tree, I say deep infrequent.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing, as far as mulch is concerned, there's

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<v Speaker 1>existing mulch there, Stir it. By the time we get

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00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:54.079
<v Speaker 1>into August September long season, that mulch becomes compacted, almost hydrophobic.

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<v Speaker 1>Stir it. Make sure that the water is getting down

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<v Speaker 1>to the roots, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And another great thing you see these around us, especially

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<v Speaker 2>like in municipal tree plantings, but the tree gators, those

573
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:06.960
<v Speaker 2>green bags that you see zips around new tree plantings.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're not familiar with them, they are basically a

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<v Speaker 2>waterproof bag with kind of a pressure sensitive tape on

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom that when you fill it up, it just

577
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:20.640
<v Speaker 2>seeps out over a long period. And those are a

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<v Speaker 2>very very effective way to get especially young trees established.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't look the best of course in your backyard

580
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<v Speaker 2>when you have this beautiful tree, but you only need

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00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:29.759
<v Speaker 2>to use them for two or three years, and that

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<v Speaker 2>can help a lot, just as long as, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>you remember to fill the bag.

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<v Speaker 1>Calli writes to us. I have a piece rose. I

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<v Speaker 1>want a plant in the ground. I was away from

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<v Speaker 1>home this week, came home to this white stuff on

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<v Speaker 1>one branch. Do I cut off that branch or treat it?

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<v Speaker 1>CALLI lives in Northeast Texas, Zone eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I don't know for sure whether this is

590
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<v Speaker 2>mealybug or scale. Most likely it looks like mealybug to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are some big mealy bugs. Even the meali bugs

592
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<v Speaker 2>are bigger down into bigger in Texas apparently. And you know,

593
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<v Speaker 2>it's not uncommon for something to just proliferate like this,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in a warm climate, you know, where things could

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<v Speaker 2>be moving along fine and like you seem to overnight

596
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:15.160
<v Speaker 2>have this suddenly appear. So Kelly, I would say, absolutely

597
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:18.720
<v Speaker 2>cut that thing off, throw it away, wash your hands,

598
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:20.759
<v Speaker 2>because they're going to have like little eggs and so

599
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:23.400
<v Speaker 2>forth that you could easily spread. I mean, mellibug is

600
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<v Speaker 2>not the worst that an outdoor plant can have. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you can minimize you know what you're putting out

602
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<v Speaker 2>in the garden and how much it spreads, your rose

603
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:34.240
<v Speaker 2>will certainly thank you. And roses I don't find usually

604
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:36.400
<v Speaker 2>get mealibugs. So it is strange that this one seemed

605
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<v Speaker 2>to explode, so yeah, that's true. I've never seen one.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just on one step, so I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's cut it out and move on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, then the ros will be fine, none the worse

609
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<v Speaker 2>for the wear. So yeah, get that thing off, put

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<v Speaker 2>it in the ground, and as in many cases, once

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<v Speaker 2>something is in the ground, can spread its roots. Is

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<v Speaker 2>getting more regular water, doesn't have the stress of growing

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<v Speaker 2>in the container, it will often be able to resist

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<v Speaker 2>any of those pest infestations a lot more easily. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to take a little break. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 2>garden center.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. It's time for

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<v Speaker 1>branching news and Stacy, I thought this story is really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>The Tennessee Department of Tourist Development was the first to

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<v Speaker 1>introduce C Coast Viewers now c as an se SA

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<v Speaker 1>C Coast Viewers powered by Enchroma to enable color blind

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<v Speaker 1>visitors to see the changing colors in fall at twelve

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<v Speaker 1>parks and scenic overlooks.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that so interesting? Yeah? I wonder how that works.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's fun to research it because they actually

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<v Speaker 1>give you the opportunity to see fall colors the way

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<v Speaker 1>they appear to someone who's color blind and then compare

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<v Speaker 1>it to what you see through these viewers. So really

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<v Speaker 1>neat Virginia State Parks are making autumn war vibrant also

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone. By installing these special viewfinders for colorblind visitors,

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<v Speaker 1>they allow them to see the stunning shades of scarlet

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<v Speaker 1>and gold that everyone else gasps at in October. These

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<v Speaker 1>nifty viewfinders work magic for those with red green CVD,

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<v Speaker 1>making the autumn experience magical whether you're color blind or not.

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<v Speaker 1>That is very, very interesting. While people with normal color

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<v Speaker 1>vision see more than one million hues and that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>seem right to me. That's a million hues and colors.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to research that. But the three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty million people in the world with color blindness

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<v Speaker 1>only see an estimated ten percent of them. As a result,

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<v Speaker 1>their worldview is less vibrant and dull, and some colors

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<v Speaker 1>appear muddled or indistinguishable. You know, I was. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>in segment one about fall colors, and I mentioned Porcupine

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<v Speaker 1>Mountains here in the far north of Michigan and the

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<v Speaker 1>up and standing on those cliffs and looking at those

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<v Speaker 1>colors usually early October, first or second week of October.

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<v Speaker 1>It really truly takes your breath.

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<v Speaker 2>Word it is. It's something you really have to see

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<v Speaker 2>to believe. And we've got some of the best fall

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<v Speaker 2>color in the world here in the US and Canada,

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<v Speaker 2>of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Incredible, Stacy, you shared a story with me that I

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<v Speaker 1>thought was really interesting, the invention of the modern chainsaw.

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<v Speaker 1>Some time shortly after the end of second the Second

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<v Speaker 1>World War, a logger named Joseph Buford Cox was out

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<v Speaker 1>in the woods using his axe. He split open a

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<v Speaker 1>stump and found it was full of timber worms the

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<v Speaker 1>four inch long larva of the timber beetle. Joe took

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<v Speaker 1>a minute to look the worms over as they continued

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<v Speaker 1>to bore into the stump trying to get away from him.

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<v Speaker 1>Sawdust dropped away from their jaws and prodigious streams, and

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<v Speaker 1>Joe watched them sink slowly into the stump. Some were

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<v Speaker 1>going against the grain, cross cutting, some were going with

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<v Speaker 1>it ripping. All of them were going at it at

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<v Speaker 1>about the same speed. Joe was watching a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>timber grubs practically falling through a stump, grinding their way

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<v Speaker 1>through the way we picture a chainsaw today doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>And Joe thought, well, maybe I can learn something about

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<v Speaker 1>this that would lead to a better power saw. So

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<v Speaker 1>back at his home in Portland, he set up a

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<v Speaker 1>little experience station in the basement magnifying glass some timber

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<v Speaker 1>worms and he inspected their teeth and noted they had

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<v Speaker 1>a C shape, and that started the whole thing. He

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<v Speaker 1>worked on a basic design of a timberworm's jaws and

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<v Speaker 1>basically sketched out a cutting chain that looked similar to

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<v Speaker 1>a motorcycle drive chain with a cutting tooth sticking out

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<v Speaker 1>every few links. The cutting teeth were hook shaped chisels

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<v Speaker 1>that would bite into the wood and essentially carved the chips.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he added a bump in the metal just

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the chisel on each link, filing down

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<v Speaker 1>the bump, so he could control how big a bite

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<v Speaker 1>each chisel took and the rest is a history. This

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<v Speaker 1>is right around the mid to late nineteen forties, launched

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<v Speaker 1>his company, the Oregon Saw Chain Corporation, with a payroll

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<v Speaker 1>of four employees. But boy, it took off from there

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<v Speaker 1>and now basic every you know, obviously the patents have

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<v Speaker 1>expired and so all kinds of chainsaws are made, but

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<v Speaker 1>his bug chain is basically used in every chainsaw in

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<v Speaker 1>operation today.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing, right getting that inspiration from hr I sent

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<v Speaker 2>you then after we were talking about the burrs and

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<v Speaker 2>Milkrol has another thing that was inspired by by nature.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's fast original. A website for you to check out,

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<v Speaker 1>because I really enjoy this website, Harvard Forest dot edu.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna put the link at the website, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a great a great website for learning about research,

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<v Speaker 1>fall colors, trees, whatever it may be, but a great website,

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<v Speaker 1>Harvard Forest dot ed U. And I think a great

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<v Speaker 1>time also to remind folks because I have used this often, Stacy,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can explain again if if there's a certain thing,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's chainsaws or maybe it's chameleons, that you're really

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<v Speaker 1>really interested in using your dot edu.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, so this is so helpful, you know nowadays

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<v Speaker 2>of course, if you try to search something, who knows

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<v Speaker 2>what you're gonna get and you want it to be reliable,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you need to have something that you can

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<v Speaker 2>trust and isn't just you know, some up bloggers thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>random thoughts on a topic. So to get reliable results,

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<v Speaker 2>you can just use this command. Type in your words

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<v Speaker 2>that you're gonna use, and then site s I T E.

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<v Speaker 2>Colon two dots dot edu and what that's gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>is limit all of your results to university websites. So

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<v Speaker 2>I typically do this for plants, So I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>use a scientific name and that command, and then everything

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting is from a university website. But depending on

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<v Speaker 2>what you're trying to find out, you might want to

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<v Speaker 2>use like a dot org website. So this will work

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<v Speaker 2>with any type of website extension if you do. If

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<v Speaker 2>you live in a foreign country and you only want

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<v Speaker 2>to see what results that have your country's suffix in

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<v Speaker 2>the URL, it works for that too. And it's just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the more information that comes online, the more

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<v Speaker 2>important it is for all of us to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to find information that is trustworthy, quickly exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great advice for researching information. Okay. Iceland's Farmers Association

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<v Speaker 1>told the BBC that there were shortages of cucumbers and

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<v Speaker 1>farmers have been unable to keep up with spiraling demand

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<v Speaker 1>for cucumbers. A Canadian TikTok creator whose viral cucumber salad

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<v Speaker 1>recipes have received millions of views and shares, is being

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<v Speaker 1>blamed for a shortage of the vegetable in Iceland. According

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<v Speaker 1>to the BBC, TikTok creator Logan Muffett, who shares videos

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<v Speaker 1>with his six million followers, started making cucumber salid content

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<v Speaker 1>in July. He suspects his videos are popular because they're

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<v Speaker 1>super simple, easy to follow and fast recipes. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think next spring in Iceland there will be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of residents who plant maybe a few extra cucumber plants.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, it's very simple. They're one of the

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<v Speaker 2>easiest vegetables to grow, so it's a good thing. But

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe that a Canadian blogger blogger single handedly

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<v Speaker 2>bankrupted Iceland of cucumbers. I'm not saying something, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone should grow cucumbers. They're so easy and it's really

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<v Speaker 2>nice to have cucumbers just outside your back door.

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<v Speaker 1>When there's a shortage, it's cucumber something, that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>So plant more cucumbers. Stacy at this time of the year. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>as I enjoy taking leaves and doing some passive composting,

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<v Speaker 1>active composting using those leaves in my vegetable garden, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't help it. Okay, again, I'm I got a few

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<v Speaker 1>years behind me, and as a kid, it takes me

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<v Speaker 1>back and I just remember so vividly people raking the

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<v Speaker 1>leaves to the curb, squirting some gas on them and

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<v Speaker 1>lighting them up and having the smoke in the neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>in late October and November was so thick. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe that we actually used to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I think for people who are a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit older, the smell of burning leaves is the

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<v Speaker 2>smell that you associate with fault. Yeah, that is for me.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just strange and as stange as a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and dangerous, dangerous for many people. But as

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<v Speaker 1>a kid too, those glowing embers of leaves, the sunsets,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a spooky haze. And as kids we would

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<v Speaker 1>take our bikes and we would ride our bikes through

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<v Speaker 1>those burning piles of leaves. Yeah, I know, dumb, but

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<v Speaker 1>we would. I've got a couple burn marks as mementos

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<v Speaker 1>from that period.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, wait, why would you do that? Did it

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<v Speaker 2>like spark or do something cool or you're just being

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<v Speaker 2>Daredevil's like, what's the appeal here?

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<v Speaker 1>Because the leaves are there, and you've got a bike, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and you got a banana peel bike and you ride

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<v Speaker 1>as fast as you can and sometimes it works and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it doesn't. But just those memories are just unreal

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I'm glad we do what we do today,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is compost leaves in our garden.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well that or I guess the invention of the

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<v Speaker 2>the law and leaf bag.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go.

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<v Speaker 2>It's completely changing. You do see people burn their leaves,

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<v Speaker 2>especially you know, out in the country. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if you have a very dry year like we've

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<v Speaker 2>had in Michigan or you talked about how dry it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't in Ohio, you know, that can be quite dangerous

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<v Speaker 2>because of course they're dry, and they go up very

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<v Speaker 2>quickly and they can coast on the wind, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it can definitely cause some serious issues amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Stacy, thank you, thank you Adrianna, and most

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<v Speaker 1>of all, thanks to you watching on YouTube, listening on

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<v Speaker 1>the radio, or listening to our podcast. We appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you for your support. Have yourself a great week.
