WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.880 --> 00:00:13.359 Hello, everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the 2 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:15.679 Poker Go Podcast. 3 00:00:15.800 --> 00:00:17.440 My name is Donnie Peters. 4 00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:23.399 It's one o nine am on Tuesday, July seventh. This 5 00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:26.000 episode is going to be largely about Day two a 6 00:00:26.239 --> 00:00:30.160 b C of the w s OP Main Event, the 7 00:00:30.199 --> 00:00:34.079 same day that I busted out of the greatest poker tournament. 8 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:34.399 In the world. 9 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:36.960 But it is what it is. We'll talk about it 10 00:00:37.719 --> 00:00:40.600 towards towards the end of this episode. We're gonna hit 11 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:44.479 on some of the happenings from the first of two 12 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:48.079 day two s at the World Series of Poker in 13 00:00:49.000 --> 00:00:51.960 the Granddaddy of the mall, the WSP Main Event, and 14 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:55.119 then I think we have two winners to touch on 15 00:00:55.200 --> 00:00:58.520 as well from events that I haven't touched on yet, 16 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:01.520 so I'll hit on those and then we'll. 17 00:01:01.359 --> 00:01:02.079 Get up out of here. 18 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:05.120 We are getting into the thick of it for the 19 00:01:05.319 --> 00:01:08.760 WSP Main Event. You know, it's feels like it's starting 20 00:01:08.799 --> 00:01:13.319 to get more real and deeper and you can start 21 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:16.920 to feel the tension building in the air, but it's 22 00:01:16.959 --> 00:01:21.120 also so far away from anything, like we're like, the 23 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:23.280 first Day two just ended, so these players are going 24 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:25.400 to Day three. It's likely that you don't make the 25 00:01:25.400 --> 00:01:27.640 money till early on day four, so you still have 26 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:30.760 a whole another full day of play before you're even 27 00:01:30.760 --> 00:01:33.000 in the money. I mean, it's like this tournament is 28 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:35.840 just such a grind and you kind of forget about 29 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:38.079 it because you're lost in all these other tournaments that 30 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:41.319 are happening, and they operate at a much faster pace. 31 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:44.359 You know, they're anywhere from two days most of the 32 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:46.840 more three days. Some of them might extend to four days. 33 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:48.760 Of course, you have a couple like the Monster Stack, 34 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:51.480 for example, or the Milli Maker that that do go 35 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:54.280 a little bit longer, but you're kind of just used 36 00:01:54.319 --> 00:01:57.239 to being in or close to the money on a 37 00:01:57.319 --> 00:01:59.920 day one, if not, you're into the money on a 38 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:02.120 day two, and then you're playing down to a final 39 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:04.200 table and you're going to a winner on day three. 40 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:08.080 That's generally what you see the most of But not 41 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:09.800 that up is to be made event, not that we 42 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:12.240 don't know that, but it's just you kind of have 43 00:02:12.280 --> 00:02:14.919 to catch yourself at times when you're walking through the 44 00:02:14.919 --> 00:02:16.599 field and you're like, oh my gosh, this person has 45 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:18.520 so many chips. This person has this many chips, Like, 46 00:02:18.560 --> 00:02:21.080 oh my gosh, you know, and it's like, yeah, but 47 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:25.479 that person might not even cash, just with how how 48 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:27.919 much can happen between now and hitting the money and 49 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:30.000 all that sort of crazy stuff. But that's what we're 50 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:32.280 gonna talk about. The player that I caught up with 51 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:36.000 today was the one and only Tony Dunst. He bagged 52 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:39.560 a pile of chips on a day too ABC. So 53 00:02:39.599 --> 00:02:42.639 I caught up with Tony Dunst. Well, we'll catch up 54 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:45.560 with him later on. 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I checked Poker News, I checked 68 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:27.520 keV mess Twitter. I tried to get these numbers dialed 69 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:31.199 in as much as possible. I guess just forgive me 70 00:03:31.240 --> 00:03:34.639 if they're incorrect, but I think they're pretty correct. We 71 00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:38.039 had operating at you know, a decrease year over year. Yes, 72 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:41.960 the big talking point that I saw and heard today. 73 00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:45.719 You know, you saw some stuff on social media. I 74 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:48.080 heard stuff talking to my friends and text messages and 75 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:50.919 group chats and whatnot. When I was playing, you know, 76 00:03:50.960 --> 00:03:53.719 at the table, you heard some chatter as well about 77 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:57.120 are they gonna hit nine thousand, Like that's the big number, right, 78 00:03:58.280 --> 00:04:01.919 And I think that they are, especially after what we 79 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:04.039 saw today that we'll get into in just a second. 80 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:06.319 I think they are. And I also want to point 81 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:09.280 out that it's not the sky is falling if they 82 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:11.960 get let's say, eighty nine hundred, or if they get 83 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:14.400 nine thousand, just because last year was nine thousand, seven 84 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:17.000 hundred and thirty five, you know, and just because yes, 85 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:20.040 we did have two years above ten thousand. I mean, 86 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:21.720 it's not the end of the world. This stuff is 87 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:23.199 going to go up and down. I say it all 88 00:04:23.240 --> 00:04:25.079 the time. Yes, we're going to talk about the numbers, 89 00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:27.560 and yes we're going to compare them to previous years. 90 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:30.480 It's the talking point, you know, it's a barometer for 91 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:34.120 for where poker is but it's not it's not like 92 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:37.079 the sky is falling. I mean right now as things stand, 93 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:41.600 through the first floor starting fights and the first day two, 94 00:04:42.399 --> 00:04:46.079 there are eighty three hundred and eighty nine entries total 95 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:49.759 in the Doubissippy main event as long as my numbers 96 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:54.079 hold correct. For Day two ABC, you had three hundred 97 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:58.279 and twelve late entrance come in. So players that that 98 00:04:58.519 --> 00:05:01.560 joined on like either right before the start of day two, 99 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:03.879 they skipped all of day one, they could come in 100 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:06.879 some point between or during the first two levels and 101 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:09.879 then up until that third level started, so you had 102 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:11.720 the first two levels in the first two breaks to 103 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:13.959 get in there. There was one player at my starting 104 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:15.839 table that did that. There was a couple other players 105 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:17.680 or a bunch of other players as I mentioned, three 106 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:18.720 hundred and twelve players. 107 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:19.639 Throughout the field that did that. 108 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:24.160 Last year Day two ABC, I believe I had this number. 109 00:05:24.160 --> 00:05:26.680 I pulled it from Poker News. Had two hundred and 110 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:29.000 sixty five entries, is what they wrote in the end 111 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:31.959 of day recap for this day, So three hundred and 112 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:34.759 twelve this year, which which aligns with what I was 113 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:39.279 thinking that players are becoming more aware of the value 114 00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:42.639 to coming in late. You know, they realize Listen, I 115 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:45.279 can still come in at the start of day two 116 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:48.360 with a ton of chips. Fifty big lines is a ton, 117 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:50.720 and you basically you get to skip a day and 118 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:53.879 a half of poker, a long grind of a day 119 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:56.759 and a half of poker, because we know how slow 120 00:05:56.839 --> 00:05:59.959 and methodical the WSP made of men structure is player friendly, 121 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:04.319 like the epitome of player friendly structure. Right, But if 122 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:06.319 you want to skip all that sort of stuff, you 123 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:08.879 want to play a little bit more meaningful poker but 124 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:11.480 still have a healthy stack to start, then maybe you 125 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:14.120 come in a little bit later. And yeah, I mean 126 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:16.759 I think players are much more aware of the value 127 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:18.600 of doing so. And we saw two hundred and sixty 128 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:21.439 five people last year and then we see three hundred 129 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:23.920 and twelve players this year. Last year there was a 130 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:26.720 little bit over one thousand total came in for the 131 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:30.160 day two late regiment. Between both day twos, I think 132 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:32.040 we're going to be right around that same number, if 133 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:34.360 not above it. And we're already at a seventeen point 134 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:38.519 seven percent increase for that first day, so that bodes 135 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:41.959 well for getting this number up over nine thousand. We 136 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:45.759 are six hundred and eleven entries short of nine thousand. 137 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:48.680 I think nine thousands of lock. My number was nine 138 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:52.959 one hundred and seventy seven a few episodes ago. Overall, 139 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:55.720 with eighty three hundred and eighty nine entries right now, 140 00:06:56.079 --> 00:06:58.519 that is a decrease over last year at this point 141 00:06:58.519 --> 00:07:03.160 of six point four percent, So a much more palatable decrease, 142 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:05.560 you know. I know again going back to the one 143 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:08.879 A that flight year over year was down sixteen and 144 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:11.959 a half percent. Now we're only looking at a decrease 145 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:14.680 of six point four percent across everything that has happened 146 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:18.399 so far, which is fine. I mean, the economy's kind 147 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:20.600 of be in the shit in terms of like everything's 148 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:23.360 really expensive. People don't have a lot of money. It's 149 00:07:23.439 --> 00:07:27.160 just hard. Crypto's not anywhere near what it once was. 150 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:29.720 You got the ninety percent tax thing. I say all 151 00:07:29.720 --> 00:07:31.279 this stuff over and over again. I just want to 152 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:33.360 drive it home that it's you know, it's not like 153 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:38.399 poker is losing popularity or it's healthy or it's you know, 154 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:40.639 unhealthy or anything like that. I think the game is 155 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:46.680 very healthy. I think that it's as popular as it 156 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:49.720 has ever been in a lot of ways. But unfortunately. 157 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:51.720 You know, I think people just have a little bit 158 00:07:51.800 --> 00:07:55.079 less money to throw around, especially when you get up 159 00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:58.480 to something like a ten thousand dollars buying tournament. Right now, 160 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:02.240 I know this is ultimately the biggest bucket list tournament 161 00:08:02.279 --> 00:08:04.720 that we have in the game. Yes, of course, but 162 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:09.160 it's it's still hard to really make that splurge. Then, 163 00:08:09.240 --> 00:08:10.920 of course, you have the thing that we've always been 164 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:13.879 fighting for many many years, and that's just that online 165 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:14.600 poker isn't what. 166 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:15.160 It once was. 167 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:18.279 So it's not, you know, qualifying as many people, it's 168 00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:21.439 not creating up and coming poker players like it once did, 169 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:23.360 you know, all that sort of stuff. So there was 170 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:26.040 always going to be some drawback coming out of COVID. 171 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:27.639 It was just a more matter of when it was 172 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:30.879 going to happen, and it's starting to happen this year. Again, 173 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:33.159 I look towards next year more so than I look 174 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:35.519 towards this year. Next year, if we start to see 175 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:39.679 a decline again, and if that decline mirrors the decline 176 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:42.279 this year percentage wise, then I would start to raise 177 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:45.080 some alarm bells and be like, hmm, okay, maybe as 178 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:48.840 operators we need to start rethinking some things, maybe as marketers, 179 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:51.759 maybe as promoters, maybe as an industry, as a community, 180 00:08:51.799 --> 00:08:54.559 we need to start rethinking some things. So you know, 181 00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:57.200 we'll cross that bridge when we get to it, because 182 00:08:57.600 --> 00:08:59.679 we're plenty of time away. But I think this is 183 00:08:59.679 --> 00:09:02.679 going to be well over nine thousand, and that's still 184 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:11.639 great for this year. The chip leader coming out of 185 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:16.000 day two a b C is Gaspar Fernandez with seven 186 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:22.159 hundred and fifty four thousand chips. That's three hundred and 187 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:25.759 one big blinds for day three. The big blind for 188 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:29.879 Day three, I believe is gonna be one K, twenty 189 00:09:29.879 --> 00:09:32.279 five hundred, or maybe fifteen hundred, twenty five hundred. 190 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:33.480 I forget it's one of those two. 191 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:38.200 So three hundred and one big blinds for mister Fernandez. Now, 192 00:09:38.399 --> 00:09:41.159 seven hundred and fifty four thousand chips sounds like an 193 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:44.360 absolute freaking truckload of chips. And it is a truckload 194 00:09:44.360 --> 00:09:46.759 of chips. But as I was getting at a little 195 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:51.279 bit earlier, that can go fast. It can go really fast. 196 00:09:51.559 --> 00:09:53.519 I mean, me sitting here on the sidelines, I would 197 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:56.399 I would kill someone for seven hundred and fifty four 198 00:09:56.440 --> 00:09:59.279 thousand chips. I mean hyperbably, of course, But you guys, 199 00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:03.240 get the get my drift there. I looked back at 200 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:08.480 the day two ABC chip leaders for the past four 201 00:10:08.679 --> 00:10:11.399 editions of the WSB Man Men, so twenty twenty two 202 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:14.320 through twenty twenty five, and I wanted to see where 203 00:10:14.360 --> 00:10:17.840 they finished on their first day two or the first 204 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:20.200 day two of the two day twos, and then where 205 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:23.120 they went on to finish in the tournament, just just 206 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:26.519 just to really drive home, you know that you can 207 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:28.879 have a ton of chips on at day two and 208 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:30.960 finished day two going into day three, but you are 209 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:34.240 still so far away from doing anything in this tournament. 210 00:10:34.639 --> 00:10:36.200 And on the flip side of things, you know you 211 00:10:36.240 --> 00:10:39.919 can have ten, twelve big blinds, whatever it is, and 212 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:43.039 you can then be like, you know what, it's a grind. 213 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:46.240 This this structure allows you to be patient. You know 214 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:49.240 you can if you need to, and you can ultimately 215 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:51.960 spin something up and just just grind it out, grind 216 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:54.960 it out, grind it out. So going back to let's 217 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:57.600 start with twenty twenty two, we had Gavin Munroe who 218 00:10:57.639 --> 00:11:00.720 bagged I mean, this number is out of control, one 219 00:11:00.799 --> 00:11:07.519 point six million in chips after day two, four hundred 220 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:13.399 and twenty five big blinds going into day three and 221 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:17.399 Gavin Monroe ended up finishing in eleven hundred and thirtieth 222 00:11:17.480 --> 00:11:21.360 place for fifteen thousand dollars. That's a min cash. He 223 00:11:21.399 --> 00:11:24.000 had four hundred and twenty five big blinds going into 224 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:27.360 day three and he min cashed the tournament. Next year, 225 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:31.919 Christopher Bramer bagged eight hundred and seventy nine thousand, which 226 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:34.639 was three hundred and fifty two big blinds. He did 227 00:11:34.639 --> 00:11:37.720 not cash in the tournament. At least I checked tendonmob 228 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:40.039 he's not there. I checked the Poke News payoffs, he's 229 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:43.480 not there. So Christopher Brammer went from day two ABC 230 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:46.919 Chip leader with three hundred and fifty two big blinds 231 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:49.200 in his stack to day three and he did not 232 00:11:49.480 --> 00:11:54.200 cash in the tournament. Twenty twenty four, Anthony Marisco bagged 233 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:57.600 three hundred and nineteen big blinds. Seven hundred and ninety 234 00:11:57.600 --> 00:12:00.200 seven k was in his stack. He finished in four 235 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:04.080 hundred and eighty first place for thirty five thousand dollars, 236 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:06.879 So a little bit of a deeper run there for Morisco. 237 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:11.000 And then last year twenty twenty five, Alexei Kravchuk bagged 238 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:15.039 three nine hundred and thirty seven thousand, five hundred, which 239 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:18.240 is good for three hundred and seventy five big lines. 240 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:22.399 He had a twenty seven thousand, five hundred dollars score 241 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:26.440 for finishing in six hundred and fourth place. So again, 242 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:30.480 like you you can think that. Listen, Gaspar Fernandez bagging 243 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:33.039 seven hundred and fifty four thousand, you know that's a 244 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:35.320 ton of chips, more than three hundred big lines heading 245 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:37.879 to day three. Let's let's lock them in for the 246 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:41.480 top one hundred. I mean, no, no, no, no, Like this, 247 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:45.159 a lot can happen between now and then, Like there 248 00:12:45.159 --> 00:12:47.559 are obviously coolers. You can just hit a bad amount 249 00:12:47.559 --> 00:12:49.519 of cards. You can do something where like you just 250 00:12:49.559 --> 00:12:52.440 start doubling up like a few different people. Next thing 251 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:54.600 you know, you doubled up six seven people at your table. 252 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:57.039 Your stack has been cut in half, and then you know, 253 00:12:57.159 --> 00:12:59.960 things just kind of spiral from there. So this is 254 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:02.519 an absolutely crazy tournament. And I just wanted to kind 255 00:13:02.559 --> 00:13:05.360 of point out there that just because somebody bags a 256 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:09.360 boatload of chips entering day three doesn't necessarily mean they're 257 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:12.559 going to have an incredible score much later on. As 258 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:17.559 I laid out by the last four chip leaders prior 259 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:22.720 to Gasper Fernandez in the WSP main event entering or sorry, 260 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:26.879 finishing day to ABC, and I'll do the same for Tuesday. 261 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:29.639 When we talk about Day two d some of the 262 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:33.879 notables who did bag chips. In addition to Gaspar Fernandez, 263 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:36.240 you had Tony Dunst. I said, we're going to talk 264 00:13:36.279 --> 00:13:38.799 to him or I have an interview to play with him. 265 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:42.879 He bagged four hundred and seventy nine thousand, one hundred 266 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:46.519 and ninety one big blinds for mister Dunst. 267 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:47.279 I mean he was. 268 00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:50.159 I was following him on his Instagram just checking out 269 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:53.759 his stories. He had a pretty good Day one obviously, 270 00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:56.399 had a really really good pre dinner Day two, and 271 00:13:56.440 --> 00:13:59.159 then a big rush post dinner Day two as well. 272 00:13:59.879 --> 00:14:02.240 I spoke with him for I don't know, five minutes 273 00:14:02.360 --> 00:14:04.960 or so after play. You know, Tony is one of 274 00:14:04.960 --> 00:14:08.679 the best, always willing to give time, so I wanted 275 00:14:08.679 --> 00:14:12.519 to chat with him. He hadn't played a tournament, a 276 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:14.879 live ws A B tournament all summer, but of course 277 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:17.919 this is the main event, and if you're anyone in poker, 278 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:20.440 you're trying not to miss it the best you can. 279 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:23.759 It's his twentieth World Series of Poker Mino, which is 280 00:14:23.799 --> 00:14:26.679 just which is crazy because I remember the first time 281 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:30.559 I saw Tony don in person, and to me back then, 282 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:34.440 he was still Bond eighteen, right, he was Bond eighteen online. 283 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:37.279 He had the blog online. I read it a lot. 284 00:14:38.240 --> 00:14:41.639 He was Bond Bond eighteen online. You followed him all 285 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:43.639 that sort of stuff, and I remember seeing him. I 286 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:47.240 think we were in New Zealand for an a m 287 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:50.679 ZPT event and we were walking through the case. I 288 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:53.039 was walking through the casino and I saw him kind 289 00:14:53.080 --> 00:14:56.919 of I don't know, maybe thirty yards away going down 290 00:14:56.960 --> 00:14:59.840 an escalator while I was going up an escalator, and 291 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:03.360 I was like, oh, man, that's Bond eighteen over there, Like, 292 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:06.840 that's Bond eighteen. You know, you see that first that person, 293 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:11.159 You see that that figure in person for the first time, 294 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:13.120 and you're kind of like, oh, like that's who that is, Like, yeah, 295 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:15.240 that's him right there, you know, like that's the guy. 296 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:20.159 So anyway, now fast forward many many years later. Here's 297 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:22.679 my chat with Tony Duns two bagged four hundred and 298 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:27.639 seventy nine thousand. All right, Tony Duns, you put a 299 00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:29.320 crap ton of chips in the bag. What the heck's 300 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:29.720 going on? 301 00:15:30.279 --> 00:15:33.159 I just had one of the bussats of poker my 302 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:36.519 entire life. I just hit every river, especially after dinner, 303 00:15:36.559 --> 00:15:38.960 for just like three hours straight. I hit every river. 304 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:42.600 Somebody usually had something they could pall with too. A 305 00:15:42.639 --> 00:15:44.679 few times I was bluffing, they folded. Just one of 306 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:45.799 those days, everything clicks. 307 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:49.360 You've had a handful of deep runs in this tournament before, 308 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:51.000 so judging by what you just said, is this the 309 00:15:51.039 --> 00:15:53.519 best start that you've had entering day three? 310 00:15:53.679 --> 00:15:56.799 Probably? I think maybe way back in twenty ten when 311 00:15:56.840 --> 00:15:59.240 I went on a run. I ran very hot on 312 00:15:59.320 --> 00:16:01.960 Day two or day somewhere around there. But as far 313 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:05.000 as being off to like an early start, this is 314 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:06.519 probably as good as it's been. 315 00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:08.279 What have you been up to? 316 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:09.960 Because he didn't play a lot of the World Series, 317 00:16:09.960 --> 00:16:11.399 but you're here for the main event, of course. 318 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:12.080 What you've been doing. 319 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:15.360 I played some online poker leading up, been traveling a 320 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:18.080 decent amount, taking care of some things with family at home, 321 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:21.720 and spending more time on prediction markets doing gambling. You know, 322 00:16:21.799 --> 00:16:24.519 with the tax change this year, it becomes a little 323 00:16:24.559 --> 00:16:26.720 bit tougher to put a lot of volume in at 324 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:30.200 poker and at gambling, but thankfully prediction markets are tax 325 00:16:30.279 --> 00:16:32.679 like capital gains, so they're not really subject to that. 326 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:36.279 And it's been an interesting and pretty fun opportunity. The 327 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:38.480 last you know, a year or so is the popularity 328 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:39.120 is blown up. 329 00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:41.600 Now, all of that said, all the busy stuff you 330 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:43.240 got going on in your life, you're not going to 331 00:16:43.279 --> 00:16:46.200 miss this one, right, this may this event event you're 332 00:16:46.200 --> 00:16:46.720 never gonna miss. 333 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:48.559 I'll never miss the main event. I'll play the main 334 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:52.600 event every single year until I'm physically mentally incapable for sure. 335 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:53.399 What is it? 336 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:56.440 What is or described to me just just how special 337 00:16:56.480 --> 00:16:58.360 this event is and why you're not going to miss it. 338 00:16:58.639 --> 00:17:01.600 I mean, just look around at this sea of people 339 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:06.440 and tables in this place, everybody chasing the same dream 340 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:10.519 and just playing a huge ten k, slow, deep stacked 341 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:14.319 tournament with so many people at varying levels of poker 342 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:17.960 and backgrounds. It's just like an interesting experience. And I 343 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:20.759 think if you play poker, if through a living, after 344 00:17:20.839 --> 00:17:22.799 a while, it can kind of beat you down and 345 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:24.319 you you know, have a lot of days where it 346 00:17:24.359 --> 00:17:26.319 just feels like the grind and you lose for months 347 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:28.200 on end if you're a tournament player, and then when 348 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:31.200 you come here you're just surrounded by people who love 349 00:17:31.279 --> 00:17:36.160 the experience of playing poker and chasing the big score 350 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:39.000 and having this like once in a lifetime run. So 351 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:40.519 it's just a great energy to be a man. 352 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:43.160 How would you say your career has changed? You know, 353 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:46.400 you came up as an online guy, you transitioned into 354 00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:48.759 you know, part on the industry side with some commentary 355 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:51.000 and stuff. Yeah, now you're like it in a way, 356 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:53.480 a grizzled vet in a lot of ways, you know. 357 00:17:53.519 --> 00:17:55.440 I mean, how would you kind of describe your career. 358 00:17:55.359 --> 00:17:59.799 Art a grizzled vet playing his twentieth main event. But 359 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:02.119 right that, I really came up just as a player, 360 00:18:02.519 --> 00:18:07.200 started doing content and the like, you know, late two thousands, 361 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:10.200 writing a bunch on blogs and stuff, training sites, and 362 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:12.960 then land with the WPT in twenty ten and got 363 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:15.759 a ton of experience doing our online streams, getting to 364 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:17.640 work with some of the best commentators in the game, 365 00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:19.319 you know, getting to sit in the booth with a 366 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:22.240 legend like Mike Sexton, and to play a whole bunch 367 00:18:22.279 --> 00:18:24.279 of our events and have the chance to be on 368 00:18:24.319 --> 00:18:27.839 the tour, you know, around our players and learning from 369 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:30.119 some of the best. And now you know, I've taken 370 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:32.720 on a consulting role with WPT as well, so hopefully 371 00:18:32.759 --> 00:18:36.799 having some influence on the product and getting player feedback 372 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:39.799 to help shape the way we do our tournaments. So 373 00:18:39.880 --> 00:18:43.599 hopefully some you know, kind of new interesting changes in 374 00:18:43.640 --> 00:18:46.319 the mix, uh coming up with WPT. But yeah, just 375 00:18:46.359 --> 00:18:48.799 you know, happy to have been part of the poker 376 00:18:48.839 --> 00:18:50.599 world for such a long time. When I was like 377 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:54.400 a high schooler watching WPT and World Series on TV, 378 00:18:54.920 --> 00:18:56.319 this was the lifestyle that. 379 00:18:56.279 --> 00:18:56.920 I was hoping for. 380 00:18:57.319 --> 00:18:58.440 All right, last question here. 381 00:18:58.480 --> 00:19:00.200 Obviously we talked about how good of a star you 382 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:01.559 had going into day three. 383 00:19:01.599 --> 00:19:03.599 What's it going to take to really make a count. 384 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:07.440 Getting past day six? Because I've come into day six 385 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:10.000 with lots of chips two of the last three years, 386 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:13.359 and remember thinking I was like eight out of I 387 00:19:13.400 --> 00:19:15.279 don't know, eighty one hundred players anything like that where 388 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:18.039 you start to really believe that you're in striking distance 389 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:20.400 up the final table. Fuck, I'm in the top ten 390 00:19:20.440 --> 00:19:23.319 and chips of the one hundred left and both day 391 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:25.279 six as I've busted out. So that's the level of 392 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:27.359 the game I need to get past right now, and 393 00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:29.640 I would be pretty happy with whatever came after that. 394 00:19:31.200 --> 00:19:32.960 Thank you to Tony for taking the time there. 395 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:35.119 I know the players want to get out of there 396 00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:37.720 at the end of the night, but Tony was gracious 397 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:40.319 enough to chat with me. He's had many deep runs, 398 00:19:40.359 --> 00:19:42.880 as we talked about in the WSFP main event, and 399 00:19:42.920 --> 00:19:46.359 it's interesting to hear how in a way he kind 400 00:19:46.359 --> 00:19:48.640 of feels a little bit of pressure, like having this 401 00:19:48.720 --> 00:19:52.559