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Speaker 1: Because I had texted you there's Nazis at the capitol,

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you know, and I had some people like, oh, you

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shouldn't call people not to use No, dude, these are Nazis.

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These are actually real deal Nazis. If you look up

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Blood Tribe online, these white nationalists very openly, blatantly utilize

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the swastika profess you know, to their their love for Hitler,

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with their saluting and element all nine. Yeah, and their leader,

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if I'm not mistaken, has a bolt or the lightning

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bolt or whatever it is on the tattooed on the

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side of his face.

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Speaker 2: He's bald. He was actually here in conquered.

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Speaker 1: Not only was he spotted, he was photographed by one

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of the photographers, and they were Their intention was really

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to try and intimidate people and try to so fear,

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and they failed miserably because immediately what we did was

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not engaged them. We uh, one of our peeps got

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out their phone and pulled out some choice music and

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put it up to our bullhorn. And then I actually

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have my own amplifier with me, so I added mine

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to the mix to try and bolster the mix, and

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we just drowned them out. Literally, We're just drowning them out.

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So yeah, they were saying they weren't calling blood. You know,

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they say really hateful things. These people are true white

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supremacists to the absolute degree of definition.

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Speaker 3: Right now. I have something to get off my chest about.

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And I kind of woke up this morning with this

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thought in my head. And this isn't directed at anybody

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specific or you know, so, but I have to say this.

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So inevitably when you post and we'll probably play the videos.

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There's a couple of videos that we'll talk about in

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a minute that they will play and of course for

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audio only listeners, you'll you'll, you know, we'll describe what's

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happening in the video in the video, but well, one

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of them, one of them is is self explanatory. But uh,

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but so inevitably, and it's it's so predictable, especially in

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these times, when you start posting this stuff, uh, you

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know about you know, there's Nazis here, there's video, and

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and you put up videos and everything. There's there's this

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reflexive reaction among some people who will then attack you

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for posting something about you know, there's Nazis here, and

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and they and and immediately they go to well, you know,

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they have a First Amendment right to be there and

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do this. But here's the thing about that. So the

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people who do that kind of thing, they see something

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like this and they can't wait to defend the Nazis.

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They're so excited to just jump in there and say, oh,

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they have a First Amendment right to be there. They

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never complete the loop. And here's what I mean by that,

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And this is the thought that I woke up with today.

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How come the people who do that, because they're right,

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they're correct to point out, yes, sure, they do have

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a first Amendment right. You have a first Amendment right

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to do whatever you want. You have a first Amendment

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right to go out and talk about how much you

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hate brown people, or how much you love the N word,

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or whatever hateful shit you want to put out into

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the world. You have a right to do that. Absolutely,

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you have a first Amendment right. But why can't they

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ever say because nobody ever says this part. When you

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post something like that, they never say, yeah, they have

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a first Amendment right to do that. And by the way,

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you have a first Amendment right to go on social

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media and condemn it, but they they never do that.

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All they do their automatic reflex is defend the Nazis.

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But they never complete the loop. They never say they

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have a right to do that. And by the way,

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you have a right to condemn them for doing that,

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and I support not only do I support their First

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Amendment right to do that, but I support your First

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Amendment right to say, hey, I think this is wrong.

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They always leave that other part out, And why is that?

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I would just ask the people, the people who are

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so eager and so goddamn excited to get on social

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media and defend the Nazis, And then of course when

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you call them, when you call them on it, they'll say, oh,

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I'm not defending what they're doing. I'm just defending their right. Okay, great,

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you're defending their right. By the way, why don't you

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defend my right to say these people are bags of

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shit and I hate them just as much as they

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hate me. Why don't you defend my right to condemn them?

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But no, all their anger is directed at you for

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posting something that Nazis are here. It's it's it's you know,

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we can say it here. This is an FM radio

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that is fucked up. And every single person who sees

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this or hears this. Who does that ship where you

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see something like that and your immediate reflex response is, oh,

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I have to defend their First Amendment right, fuck you?

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what they're doing. But you'll never do that, will you.

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: They never do that. They never do I've not once,

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I've not once seen one of these Nazi defenders say

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be there. They have a right to be there. Oh

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and by the way, you are correct also to condemn them,

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and I defend your right to do that as well.

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do that. That's my rant.

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Speaker 2: I got you, I got you.

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Speaker 3: I apologize for a swearing and everything. But then.

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Speaker 2: That's why that's why we did it this way.

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Speaker 1: That's that's why we're doing it this way, and so

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we can speak freely without oh gosh, I'm sorry, huh,

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I have got to do better with camera, right, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, that's okay, most people are going to listen to

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the audio anyway.

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Speaker 2: True.

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Speaker 1: The thing of it is is I did respect their

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First Amendment right to free speech. And if you look

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at my history dating all the way back to the

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days when I was a.

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Speaker 2: State route myself. I defended it and I continue to

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do so.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they have every right to stand there and do

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their zighail thing. I draw a line when they hold

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up barriers and stuff, Colonel, they'll be blood. I think

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it's crossing the line when you're starting to get into

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a little bit of violence. But that said, in this instance,

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they did not do that. In this instance, they lined

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up in front of our state house. They may or

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may not have been stepping on our permit, but they

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said their piece. We didn't engage them, but we had

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the right to our First Amendment, and we used music,

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like that to try to drown out their hate. And

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that is our right to do, and that's our right

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to do. And when they did their formation and started

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doing these military removers, which incidentally, there was a really

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funny moment where they're trying to be these big badasses

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not to scare you, and everybody turned to the left

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and one dude who like totally went to the other direction.

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Speaker 2: Like turned around the opposite way from the rest of them.

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You little torps, can you you get that pot right.

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Speaker 1: And of course they're all masks right because there's and

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a lot of people were yelling at them, cowards, take

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off your masks, yep, this is the way you want

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Speaker 2: Take off your mask, show us who you are towards.

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Speaker 1: They weren't doing that, and they actually started to march out.

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did not prohibit them from their free speech. We had

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every right to shout them down. I had every right

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to call them nazi scum, to say that that they're cowards,

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to call it whatever I damn well fucking felt like

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saying in that moment. I had every damn right to

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say short of violence, yep. Yeah, getting good trouble in

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my tribe. And my tribe is all inclusive. We get

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in good trouble in my tribe. And that's exactly how

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we handled that. On the state House grounds, Yeah, where

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we were all were where we were all, and you

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know what, and everybody kept setting up their stuff. They

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weren't stopping us. We kept setting up the tents and

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the table. So I say we they I mostly sat

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because I can't.

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Speaker 2: I'm not very.

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Speaker 1: Useful when it comes to setting up tents and things.

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I have other useful things about me, but it didn't

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stop us. It didn't stop people from New Hampshire from

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getting together and telling these out of staters to go

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fuck themselves that we were don't we don't put up

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that shit.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 3: Miriam is in the chatroom by the way, Actually, well

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she's not in the she's not in the main chat room,

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so you probably can't see her. But I open up

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the Facebook feed. I don't know why some comments show

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in the actual chat room and some show up separately.

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But but she did say and conquered that swastika flags.

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That's repulsive, and thank you for the heads up.

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 2: She was there, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: She was there, and I she actually came to protest

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and actually in to sit with me and to see

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everybody and interact with the community. And she protested right

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alongside of us. I did warner of when I saw

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what was going on. I didn't want anybody to walk

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into it unprepared. But thankfully we didn't have to put

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up with them for too long. Yeah, they were short lived,

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but then they proceeded to march down the street, so we.

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Speaker 3: We have let's see if I can pull this up here,

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Speaker 1: We go there.

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Speaker 3: I stopped, all right, yep. So for people listening to

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the audio, nasty yatsy.

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Speaker 2: Suck, nasty suck, you were drowning them at.

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Speaker 1: Nazi suck, Nazi suck, Nazi suck, Nazi suck, Nazi suck.

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Speaker 2: You started by suck because I stuck over.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's gonna little, it's gonna take you the words cads.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: So that's the video of them walking through and and

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Speaker 1: We find chant, hate and and that. And like I said,

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our our method of dealing with them was to try

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Speaker 2: Them out right, and we successfully did that.

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Speaker 1: I will say when they were at the steps, they

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were trying very desperately to be loud, but we were louder.

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Speaker 3: Now there's another there's another who I don't want to

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Speaker 1: Then they proceed out of the New Hampshire State House

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and they were in a a they're trying to like

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a military. I do well, I'm for the listeners. I

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always wanted to give them the view of what happened.

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So those guys came mar So they're marching out of

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the State House. They go through the arches, they take

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them right onto Main Street and they proceed to start

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marching all the way down Main Street down to where.

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Speaker 2: The co op was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And then there's a second video, which was not

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my video, taking by somebody else on a rooftop and

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in broad daylight in the middle of Concord, New Hampshire,

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they attacked some body on the street. There's four of

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them attacking this one person, and one of them goes

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out of his way. You're gonna see it in the video.

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He's gonna go out of his way to get a

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good five or six wax in with an item, with

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an object, a weapon, whatever he had in his hand across.

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Speaker 2: The guy's back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And the guy himself.

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Speaker 1: Who was being attacked is in a protective pose with

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his you know, arms up, trying to protect his head

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and face and kind of tucked in. He's literally trying

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to protect himself from the four people that are around him.

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Speaker 2: And Matt, I'll let you play the video.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a look at this as it's twenty three

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Speaker 2: He's gone back. It's not an object. I was wrong.

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fucking scared.

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Speaker 1: My understanding is they did have a U haul in

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their tradition, they had a U haul in the parking lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so you guys, a lot of you have

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probably seen them. They've showed up around the country. I

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am assuming that they probably showed up because they saw

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our protests planned, because it was advertised, we had a permit.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't a secret, non brite. Anybody from New Hampshire,

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come on down. These guys. Most of them not from

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New Hampshire. They're not from New Hampshire. A lot of

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some of them are from Florida. They come from all

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over the place.

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Speaker 1: That one dude, the founder guy, if I'm not mistaken,

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is from Maine. Okay, so unfortunately he is a New

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England dude. But that's the bald guy you see in

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the videos who isn't wearing the mask. He's the only

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one really isn't wearing a mask. The rest of them

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cowards covered had to toe so you can't figure out

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what they are or who they are. Yeah, and they

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were highly hitling, like they did that shit in.

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Speaker 2: Front of our state house.

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Speaker 1: And we didn't physically attack them, we didn't try and

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physically stop them. We tried to silence them with our

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own voices. And that's why we need more people to

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come out when we do these events and show up

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in force and make our voices louder.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's such a waste of life, you know, to

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to even engage and hate. Because the thing that I

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always say is, you know you can you can put

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you know, you can hate people. And there's varying degrees

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of hate and ignorance and racism and so forth. But

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when you take it to a degree where I mean,

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and it's all bad, all all racism and bigotry and

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and any kind of prejudice is bad. But when you

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take it to a degree where you're actually putting time

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and effort and energy and organization into it, Jenny just

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disappeared from the stream. But when you when you put

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time and energy and effort into it, it's you're you're

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you're wasting your life on this stuff. Because here's the thing.

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You can hate people all you want. You can wish

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that we lived in some sort of you know, fantasy

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land ethno state that you have in your mind or

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whatever it is. But someday you're going to die, and

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when you die, all the people that you hate so much,

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whether they're black or brown, or gay or trans or whomever,

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is the the uh the target of your hatred. At

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the end of it all, when you're dead and gone,

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they'll still be here. All the people you don't like

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will still be here. The white Ethno state that you

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fantasize about will never exist. It can't. So you're just

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wasting If this is what you're spending your life doing,

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putting your energy into this, you're just wasting your life

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because someday you're going to be dead and gone, and

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all the people you hate will still be here and

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you will have accomplished precisely nothing. So you know it

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doesn't you know, call me a woke liberal or whatever

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you want to call me, but I think you're wasting

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your time. I think you're wasting your life on this stuff.

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So that's that's my view of it. So I'm not

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sure what. Oh I think Jenny is rejoining us here?

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Speaker 2: Hello?

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Speaker 3: Really all right?

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Speaker 2: I was trying to check the chat messages. Oh accidentally goofed.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I gotcha. Brian Mackie commented on Facebook. He said,

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scared to show their faces and only a handful, not

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much of a movement left. I guess, well, but they

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do feel emboldened. I mean, I can't you know, I

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say this a lot.

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Speaker 2: There's more of them than you think.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh clearly. I never I can't remember anything

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like this happening when I was a kid, where you know,

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they feel so emboldened is to just go out and

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openly do this stuff. And you know, the political climate

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in the country is, like I said, a lot of

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people think racism is cool again, and they're all in,

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you know, and it's it's really, you know, in some

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ways we've come so far, and yet in some ways

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we also seem to be going backward rapidly.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we're going backward a lot lately.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are basically KKK with black hoods

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instead of white ones. Yes, that's the only difference. They're

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just another version of that. And we as a society

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in America had progressed beyond that.

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Speaker 2: I thought that that.

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Speaker 1: Kind of behavior wasn't acceptable in the streets because it

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was a time when the KKK marched proudly down the

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street in DC. Yes, there was a time when that

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was widely accepted and it was okay to be racist,

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and we supposedly were beating that in America.

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Speaker 2: But now we're going backwards. Now we're seeing it. Not

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only is.

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Speaker 1: It, it's becoming popular, you know, to be a racist.

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It's so acceptable. You can turn on YouTube and find

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that any number of videos that people have taken out

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in public and find somebody saying things that you would

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never even stay behind a closed door, you know. And

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that's what scares me to a point. But I like

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to believe that there's more of us than there are

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of them, and the more of us that empower each

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other and become more active and activated, then we can

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start to because we can't let this win. Right This

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just happened in Cocking, New Hampshire. They march down the

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street and assaulted somebody on the sidewalk in main Street,

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USA and then.

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Speaker 2: Jumped in their U haul. Yeah, like I am.

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Speaker 1: I feel like everybody in New Hampshire should be standing

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up right now and getting together and joining together and

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saying not in our state right. But unfortunately, like you

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said earlier, I've been met by some folks who want

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to attack me for pointing this out right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're very concerned about the First Amendment rights of

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the Nazis. Couldn't give a shit about your First Amendment right?

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Speaker 2: Or I point out the hate? How dar my video

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the hate?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we see you, the people that the Nazi defenders,

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we see you. We understand why you leave out the

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part where you know where you say, by the way, Jenny,

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I also stand for your First Amendment right now, you

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leave that part out.

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Speaker 2: We see you only.

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Speaker 1: When it agrees with them, then I can have my

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First Amendment rights.

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Speaker 2: See, that's why you're not really you're not really the

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true believer that you think you are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's when you can stand in front of a

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Nazi like I did and not go in the wrong direction,

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but instead use your own liberties to protect the people

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around you and yourself.

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Speaker 2: So I'd say join me. Maybe you need to question

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what side you're on.

