Speaker 1: Because I had texted you there's Nazis at the capitol,
you know, and I had some people like, oh, you
shouldn't call people not to use No, dude, these are Nazis.
These are actually real deal Nazis. If you look up
Blood Tribe online, these white nationalists very openly, blatantly utilize
the swastika profess you know, to their their love for Hitler,
with their saluting and element all nine. Yeah, and their leader,
if I'm not mistaken, has a bolt or the lightning
bolt or whatever it is on the tattooed on the
side of his face.
Speaker 2: He's bald. He was actually here in conquered.
Speaker 1: Not only was he spotted, he was photographed by one
of the photographers, and they were Their intention was really
to try and intimidate people and try to so fear,
and they failed miserably because immediately what we did was
not engaged them. We uh, one of our peeps got
out their phone and pulled out some choice music and
put it up to our bullhorn. And then I actually
have my own amplifier with me, so I added mine
to the mix to try and bolster the mix, and
we just drowned them out. Literally, We're just drowning them out.
So yeah, they were saying they weren't calling blood. You know,
they say really hateful things. These people are true white
supremacists to the absolute degree of definition.
Speaker 3: Right now. I have something to get off my chest about.
And I kind of woke up this morning with this
thought in my head. And this isn't directed at anybody
specific or you know, so, but I have to say this.
So inevitably when you post and we'll probably play the videos.
There's a couple of videos that we'll talk about in
a minute that they will play and of course for
audio only listeners, you'll you'll, you know, we'll describe what's
happening in the video in the video, but well, one
of them, one of them is is self explanatory. But uh,
but so inevitably, and it's it's so predictable, especially in
these times, when you start posting this stuff, uh, you
know about you know, there's Nazis here, there's video, and
and you put up videos and everything. There's there's this
reflexive reaction among some people who will then attack you
for posting something about you know, there's Nazis here, and
and they and and immediately they go to well, you know,
they have a First Amendment right to be there and
do this. But here's the thing about that. So the
people who do that kind of thing, they see something
like this and they can't wait to defend the Nazis.
They're so excited to just jump in there and say, oh,
they have a First Amendment right to be there. They
never complete the loop. And here's what I mean by that,
And this is the thought that I woke up with today.
How come the people who do that, because they're right,
they're correct to point out, yes, sure, they do have
a first Amendment right. You have a first Amendment right
to do whatever you want. You have a first Amendment
right to go out and talk about how much you
hate brown people, or how much you love the N word,
or whatever hateful shit you want to put out into
the world. You have a right to do that. Absolutely,
you have a first Amendment right. But why can't they
ever say because nobody ever says this part. When you
post something like that, they never say, yeah, they have
a first Amendment right to do that. And by the way,
you have a first Amendment right to go on social
media and condemn it, but they they never do that.
All they do their automatic reflex is defend the Nazis.
But they never complete the loop. They never say they
have a right to do that. And by the way,
you have a right to condemn them for doing that,
and I support not only do I support their First
Amendment right to do that, but I support your First
Amendment right to say, hey, I think this is wrong.
They always leave that other part out, And why is that?
I would just ask the people, the people who are
so eager and so goddamn excited to get on social
media and defend the Nazis, And then of course when
you call them, when you call them on it, they'll say, oh,
I'm not defending what they're doing. I'm just defending their right. Okay, great,
you're defending their right. By the way, why don't you
defend my right to say these people are bags of
shit and I hate them just as much as they
hate me. Why don't you defend my right to condemn them?
But no, all their anger is directed at you for
posting something that Nazis are here. It's it's it's you know,
we can say it here. This is an FM radio
that is fucked up. And every single person who sees
this or hears this. Who does that ship where you
see something like that and your immediate reflex response is, oh,
I have to defend their First Amendment right, fuck you?
How about you defend our First Amendment rights to condemn
what they're doing. But you'll never do that, will you.
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: They never do that. They never do I've not once,
I've not once seen one of these Nazi defenders say
I will stand up for their First Amendment right to
be there. They have a right to be there. Oh
and by the way, you are correct also to condemn them,
and I defend your right to do that as well.
Not once have I ever seen anyone on social media
do that. That's my rant.
Speaker 2: I got you, I got you.
Speaker 3: I apologize for a swearing and everything. But then.
Speaker 2: That's why that's why we did it this way.
Speaker 1: That's that's why we're doing it this way, and so
we can speak freely without oh gosh, I'm sorry, huh,
I have got to do better with camera, right, all.
Speaker 3: Right, that's okay, most people are going to listen to
the audio anyway.
Speaker 2: True.
Speaker 1: The thing of it is is I did respect their
First Amendment right to free speech. And if you look
at my history dating all the way back to the
days when I was a.
Speaker 2: State route myself. I defended it and I continue to
do so.
Speaker 1: Yes, they have every right to stand there and do
their zighail thing. I draw a line when they hold
up barriers and stuff, Colonel, they'll be blood. I think
it's crossing the line when you're starting to get into
a little bit of violence. But that said, in this instance,
they did not do that. In this instance, they lined
up in front of our state house. They may or
may not have been stepping on our permit, but they
said their piece. We didn't engage them, but we had
the right to our First Amendment, and we used music,
We use speeches from Martin Luther King, We use things
like that to try to drown out their hate. And
that is our right to do, and that's our right
to do. And when they did their formation and started
doing these military removers, which incidentally, there was a really
funny moment where they're trying to be these big badasses
not to scare you, and everybody turned to the left
and one dude who like totally went to the other direction.
Speaker 2: Like turned around the opposite way from the rest of them.
You little torps, can you you get that pot right.
Speaker 1: And of course they're all masks right because there's and
a lot of people were yelling at them, cowards, take
off your masks, yep, this is the way you want
to be.
Speaker 2: Take off your mask, show us who you are towards.
And they weren't.
Speaker 1: They weren't doing that, and they actually started to march out.
We did not engage, We did not stop them, We
did not prohibit them from their free speech. We had
every right to shout them down. I had every right
to call them nazi scum, to say that that they're cowards,
to call it whatever I damn well fucking felt like
saying in that moment. I had every damn right to
say short of violence, yep. Yeah, getting good trouble in
my tribe. And my tribe is all inclusive. We get
in good trouble in my tribe. And that's exactly how
we handled that. On the state House grounds, Yeah, where
we were all were where we were all, and you
know what, and everybody kept setting up their stuff. They
weren't stopping us. We kept setting up the tents and
the table. So I say we they I mostly sat
because I can't.
Speaker 2: I'm not very.
Speaker 1: Useful when it comes to setting up tents and things.
I have other useful things about me, but it didn't
stop us. It didn't stop people from New Hampshire from
getting together and telling these out of staters to go
fuck themselves that we were don't we don't put up
that shit.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 3: Miriam is in the chatroom by the way, Actually, well
she's not in the she's not in the main chat room,
so you probably can't see her. But I open up
the Facebook feed. I don't know why some comments show
in the actual chat room and some show up separately.
But but she did say and conquered that swastika flags.
That's repulsive, and thank you for the heads up.
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 2: She was there, Yeah.
Speaker 1: She was there, and I she actually came to protest
and actually in to sit with me and to see
everybody and interact with the community. And she protested right
alongside of us. I did warner of when I saw
what was going on. I didn't want anybody to walk
into it unprepared. But thankfully we didn't have to put
up with them for too long. Yeah, they were short lived,
but then they proceeded to march down the street, so we.
Speaker 3: We have let's see if I can pull this up here,
because we've got uh, okay, let's do this one. This
is the one where you first. This is the video
that you took. Let's see if I can get this
to there.
Speaker 1: We go there.
Speaker 3: I stopped, all right, yep. So for people listening to
the audio, nasty yatsy.
Speaker 2: Suck, nasty suck, you were drowning them at.
Speaker 1: Nazi suck, Nazi suck, Nazi suck, Nazi suck, Nazi suck.
Speaker 2: You started by suck because I stuck over.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's gonna little, it's gonna take you the words cads.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: So that's the video of them walking through and and
of course they're all.
Speaker 1: We find chant, hate and and that. And like I said,
our our method of dealing with them was to try
and drown.
Speaker 2: Them out right, and we successfully did that.
Speaker 1: I will say when they were at the steps, they
were trying very desperately to be loud, but we were louder.
Speaker 3: Now there's another there's another who I don't want to
play that one again. There's another another these guys.
Speaker 1: Then they proceed out of the New Hampshire State House
and they were in a a they're trying to like
a military. I do well, I'm for the listeners. I
always wanted to give them the view of what happened.
So those guys came mar So they're marching out of
the State House. They go through the arches, they take
them right onto Main Street and they proceed to start
marching all the way down Main Street down to where.
Speaker 2: The co op was.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then there's a second video, which was not
my video, taking by somebody else on a rooftop and
in broad daylight in the middle of Concord, New Hampshire,
they attacked some body on the street. There's four of
them attacking this one person, and one of them goes
out of his way. You're gonna see it in the video.
He's gonna go out of his way to get a
good five or six wax in with an item, with
an object, a weapon, whatever he had in his hand across.
Speaker 2: The guy's back.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And the guy himself.
Speaker 1: Who was being attacked is in a protective pose with
his you know, arms up, trying to protect his head
and face and kind of tucked in. He's literally trying
to protect himself from the four people that are around him.
Speaker 2: And Matt, I'll let you play the video.
Speaker 3: Let's take a look at this as it's twenty three
seconds here it is come back.
Speaker 2: He's gone back. It's not an object. I was wrong.
Those fists camera in his other hand. He's fucking they're
fucking scared.
Speaker 1: My understanding is they did have a U haul in
their tradition, they had a U haul in the parking lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so you guys, a lot of you have
probably seen them. They've showed up around the country. I
am assuming that they probably showed up because they saw
our protests planned, because it was advertised, we had a permit.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a secret, non brite. Anybody from New Hampshire,
come on down. These guys. Most of them not from
New Hampshire. They're not from New Hampshire. A lot of
some of them are from Florida. They come from all
over the place.
Speaker 1: That one dude, the founder guy, if I'm not mistaken,
is from Maine. Okay, so unfortunately he is a New
England dude. But that's the bald guy you see in
the videos who isn't wearing the mask. He's the only
one really isn't wearing a mask. The rest of them
cowards covered had to toe so you can't figure out
what they are or who they are. Yeah, and they
were highly hitling, like they did that shit in.
Speaker 2: Front of our state house.
Speaker 1: And we didn't physically attack them, we didn't try and
physically stop them. We tried to silence them with our
own voices. And that's why we need more people to
come out when we do these events and show up
in force and make our voices louder.
Speaker 3: Right, it's such a waste of life, you know, to
to even engage and hate. Because the thing that I
always say is, you know you can you can put
you know, you can hate people. And there's varying degrees
of hate and ignorance and racism and so forth. But
when you take it to a degree where I mean,
and it's all bad, all all racism and bigotry and
and any kind of prejudice is bad. But when you
take it to a degree where you're actually putting time
and effort and energy and organization into it, Jenny just
disappeared from the stream. But when you when you put
time and energy and effort into it, it's you're you're
you're wasting your life on this stuff. Because here's the thing.
You can hate people all you want. You can wish
that we lived in some sort of you know, fantasy
land ethno state that you have in your mind or
whatever it is. But someday you're going to die, and
when you die, all the people that you hate so much,
whether they're black or brown, or gay or trans or whomever,
is the the uh the target of your hatred. At
the end of it all, when you're dead and gone,
they'll still be here. All the people you don't like
will still be here. The white Ethno state that you
fantasize about will never exist. It can't. So you're just
wasting If this is what you're spending your life doing,
putting your energy into this, you're just wasting your life
because someday you're going to be dead and gone, and
all the people you hate will still be here and
you will have accomplished precisely nothing. So you know it
doesn't you know, call me a woke liberal or whatever
you want to call me, but I think you're wasting
your time. I think you're wasting your life on this stuff.
So that's that's my view of it. So I'm not
sure what. Oh I think Jenny is rejoining us here?
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 3: Really all right?
Speaker 2: I was trying to check the chat messages. Oh accidentally goofed.
Speaker 3: Oh, I gotcha. Brian Mackie commented on Facebook. He said,
scared to show their faces and only a handful, not
much of a movement left. I guess, well, but they
do feel emboldened. I mean, I can't you know, I
say this a lot.
Speaker 2: There's more of them than you think.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh clearly. I never I can't remember anything
like this happening when I was a kid, where you know,
they feel so emboldened is to just go out and
openly do this stuff. And you know, the political climate
in the country is, like I said, a lot of
people think racism is cool again, and they're all in,
you know, and it's it's really, you know, in some
ways we've come so far, and yet in some ways
we also seem to be going backward rapidly.
Speaker 2: I feel like we're going backward a lot lately.
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are basically KKK with black hoods
instead of white ones. Yes, that's the only difference. They're
just another version of that. And we as a society
in America had progressed beyond that.
Speaker 2: I thought that that.
Speaker 1: Kind of behavior wasn't acceptable in the streets because it
was a time when the KKK marched proudly down the
street in DC. Yes, there was a time when that
was widely accepted and it was okay to be racist,
and we supposedly were beating that in America.
Speaker 2: But now we're going backwards. Now we're seeing it. Not
only is.
Speaker 1: It, it's becoming popular, you know, to be a racist.
It's so acceptable. You can turn on YouTube and find
that any number of videos that people have taken out
in public and find somebody saying things that you would
never even stay behind a closed door, you know. And
that's what scares me to a point. But I like
to believe that there's more of us than there are
of them, and the more of us that empower each
other and become more active and activated, then we can
start to because we can't let this win. Right This
just happened in Cocking, New Hampshire. They march down the
street and assaulted somebody on the sidewalk in main Street,
USA and then.
Speaker 2: Jumped in their U haul. Yeah, like I am.
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody in New Hampshire should be standing
up right now and getting together and joining together and
saying not in our state right. But unfortunately, like you
said earlier, I've been met by some folks who want
to attack me for pointing this out right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're very concerned about the First Amendment rights of
the Nazis. Couldn't give a shit about your First Amendment right?
Speaker 2: Or I point out the hate? How dar my video
the hate?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we see you, the people that the Nazi defenders,
we see you. We understand why you leave out the
part where you know where you say, by the way, Jenny,
I also stand for your First Amendment right now, you
leave that part out.
Speaker 2: We see you only.
Speaker 1: When it agrees with them, then I can have my
First Amendment rights.
Speaker 2: See, that's why you're not really you're not really the
true believer that you think you are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's when you can stand in front of a
Nazi like I did and not go in the wrong direction,
but instead use your own liberties to protect the people
around you and yourself.
Speaker 2: So I'd say join me. Maybe you need to question
what side you're on.