Speaker 1: Fun seven hundred WLW twelve oh seven Memorial Day. Dan
Speaker 1: Carroll in for the great American Bill Cunningham. So glad
Speaker 1: to be here. I'm glad you are here as well.
Speaker 1: Big Dave, the broadcast sheriff running things in the seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW Command Center. Always glad to have him on hand.
Speaker 1: We've got a great show I think coming up today.
Speaker 1: Scott Powell, we'll be here in a half an hour
Speaker 1: from now. Scott Powell is a great historian, he's a writer,
Speaker 1: he's an entrepreneur, has lived just an unbelievable life. He
Speaker 1: is a great commentator on the passing scene and always
Speaker 1: has the ability, I think, to put into perspective and
Speaker 1: really good perspective, and put into words exactly why days
Speaker 1: like today are so meaningful to all of us as
Speaker 1: individuals and to all of us as a nation. And
Speaker 1: so Scott Powell has joined me on a lot of
Speaker 1: different holidays, and I'm glad to have him here. A
Speaker 1: little bit later on today. Evangeline de vol we'll be
Speaker 1: here in the one o'clock hour.
Speaker 2: She is a.
Speaker 1: Tireless advocate for children here in Hamilton County, Ohio and
Speaker 1: the world, and she speaks truth to what is a
Speaker 1: part of the really, I mean really part of the
Speaker 1: darkest underbelly of the United States as it relates to
Speaker 1: children and what happens to children who get trafficked in
Speaker 1: this country and just some of the worst things imaginable
Speaker 1: that happened to children, and her entire life is about
Speaker 1: making sure that those sorts of things don't happen and
Speaker 1: doing what she can to stop those things from happening.
Speaker 1: She is also on the board of a great organization,
Speaker 1: my buddy Dan Varner, who's just a outstanding musician and
Speaker 1: plays a lot of plays, a lot of gigs in
Speaker 1: around the Anderson Township area and really all over the country.
Speaker 1: He is a Nashville recording artist. He has an organization
Speaker 1: called the Varner Foundation for Children and Families, and this
Speaker 1: is an organization that works with foster children. And Evangeline
Speaker 1: Davol is on the board of his organization. And when
Speaker 1: I say tireless, I mean she is tireless because not
Speaker 1: only does she do that, but she does just a
Speaker 1: whole list of other things as well. And that's how
Speaker 1: I met her through my buddy Dan Varner, and so
Speaker 1: I appreciate his friendship and Evangeline. I haven't hadn't seen
Speaker 1: her in a while. And Dan Varner had a fundraiser
Speaker 1: event that he invited me to be part of a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and that was a great event.
Speaker 1: So Evangeline is going to be on, and then my
Speaker 1: buddy Jim Serger will be here at one thirty five
Speaker 1: and we'll talk to Jim. He's got another book coming out.
Speaker 1: He's got actually I think I think he's got two
Speaker 1: books that are getting ready to come out. If I
Speaker 1: read his if I read his message to me correctly.
Speaker 1: You may remember we had Jim on some time ago
Speaker 1: when his book came out about the the when he
Speaker 1: was a young man, a young lad, him and his
Speaker 1: buddy's got to go see David Lee Roth and Eddie
Speaker 1: van Halen and see the band van Halen when they
Speaker 1: played at Gosh. I want to say it was it
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm mistaken on well, I don't have to, but
Speaker 1: it was either. I want to say it was Cincinnati Gardens.
Speaker 1: Might have been the Guards, might have been. It was
Speaker 1: probably the Guards. I'll double check on that. But he
Speaker 1: was so moved by that concert that he wrote a
Speaker 1: book about it, and just a great a great story
Speaker 1: about about youth and the sort of things that impact
Speaker 1: people's lives and the and the pure joy of seeing
Speaker 1: a band like that and a show like that that
Speaker 1: impacted his life in a very positive way. And Jim
Speaker 1: Surer is just an absolute bright light of positivity.
Speaker 2: But today is.
Speaker 1: Memorial Day, and the one thing I always like to
Speaker 1: do on Memorial Day, I'm not going to do it
Speaker 1: right now. I plan to do this at the after
Speaker 1: the news at too, and I'm going to tell the
Speaker 1: story of a gentleman I met many many years ago
Speaker 1: during my days of Fox nineteen. And this individual's name
Speaker 1: he went by the name of Squeaky, and Squeaky told
Speaker 1: me a story, recounted a story that involves D Day
Speaker 1: in his service on D Day that has stuck with
Speaker 1: me all these years. And you know, out of all
Speaker 1: the travels I had when I was in the TV business,
Speaker 1: out of all the interviews I did, all the you know,
Speaker 1: all the meetings I covered, all the stories I put forth,
Speaker 1: this one, this one story, this one interview, the words
Speaker 1: he spoke to me stuck with me like none other.
Speaker 1: And I always, if I have the ability, I always
Speaker 1: retell that story on Memorial Day. Because it is just
Speaker 1: it is a Memorial Day story that stuck with me
Speaker 1: through all these years, and I'll be doing that in.
Speaker 2: The two o'clock hour.
Speaker 1: Also, I would like to hear from you, especially, I've
Speaker 1: got guests between now and the end of the show,
Speaker 1: but in the two o'clock hour, I would, I would
Speaker 1: hopefully like to hear from you and maybe recount your
Speaker 1: own stories of someone in your family, a loved one,
Speaker 1: someone who met something to you, someone that you know
Speaker 1: that made the ultimate sacrifice so we can enjoy the
Speaker 1: freedoms that we have. If you would like to relate
Speaker 1: any of those stories, we'll open up the phone lines
Speaker 1: in the two o'clock hour and we'll see, well, and
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. You never know how those things
Speaker 1: are going to work out, but on this Memorial Day,
Speaker 1: as we sit in for Bill Cunningham, we will see
Speaker 1: how that goes in the two o'clock hour. It is
Speaker 1: a Monday, it is a holiday. I know, student report today,
Speaker 1: Bill Dennison enjoying some well deserved time off, So we
Speaker 1: will muddle through on our own without the Stooge report today.
Speaker 1: And I really can't say it. I can't say it
Speaker 1: any better than Richard K.
Speaker 2: Jones.
Speaker 1: As I looked at my social media feed today on
Speaker 1: the X, I saw this posted by Richard K. Jones,
Speaker 1: and I thought to myself, you know what, I just
Speaker 1: can't I can't say it any better than this. And
Speaker 1: so these are the words of Richard K. Jones, short
Speaker 1: and sweet about Memorial Day. And Richard K. Jones, the
Speaker 1: Sheriff of Butler County, posted this Today we remember and
Speaker 1: honor the brave men and women who made the ultimate
Speaker 1: sacrifice in service to our country. Their courage, dedication, and
Speaker 1: love for our nation will never be forgotten. On this
Speaker 1: Memorial Day, we pause to reflect on their legacy and
Speaker 1: express our deepest gratitude. Let us carry their memory with us,
Speaker 1: just not today, or I'm sorry, not just today, but
Speaker 1: every day. And he posted that along with a photo.
Speaker 2: That is.
Speaker 1: Army soldiers in their battle dressed uniforms and it reads,
Speaker 1: just in case you forgot why you have a three
Speaker 1: day weekend. And so I saw that and I thought
Speaker 1: to myself, you know what, I can't say it better
Speaker 1: than any any better than than Richard Jones did, and
Speaker 1: so I'm not going to try. Well, what else is
Speaker 1: going on? So that's all the Memorials Day stuff we're
Speaker 1: going to have. We hope to have brad brad Winstrop,
Speaker 1: Congressman brad Winstrop on in this first half hour, but
Speaker 1: we have not been able to make our connection with
Speaker 1: the former congressman and current colonel in the United States
Speaker 1: State's Army Reserve. And brad Winstrip Is is a true American,
Speaker 1: American patriot. I think he's an American hero, not only
Speaker 1: for his service in uniform, but his service in Congress
Speaker 1: and what he has done over the years. And I've
Speaker 1: seen Brad If you've been fortunate enough to uh, to
Speaker 1: see brad winstrip in action when it comes to making
Speaker 1: a speech, when it comes to addressing a crowd, when
Speaker 1: it comes to putting in perspective, uh the uh what
Speaker 1: it means to honor those who wear the uniform and
Speaker 1: what it means to be in service to this country.
Speaker 1: And this guy has done it in multiple ways by
Speaker 1: being a member of Congress, by wearing the uniform, by
Speaker 1: you know, being the man that he is that does
Speaker 1: what everything he can for his family, the things he
Speaker 1: does for his community, the things he has done for
Speaker 1: his country. Brad winstrip is just an outstanding in all
Speaker 1: those areas, so we will continue to try and make
Speaker 1: our connection with him until then, what else the the
Speaker 1: let me get let me I got so many things
Speaker 1: here I want to This was another and one of
Speaker 1: the things I was going to ask Brad Winsor about
Speaker 1: was once we got through all the Memorial Day stuff,
Speaker 1: which was the most important thing was the continued revelations
Speaker 1: that continue to come out about the Biden administration, because
Speaker 1: he saw a lot of it up close and personal
Speaker 1: when he was there in Congress. And one of the
Speaker 1: things that among the numerous things that have come out
Speaker 1: over the last several weeks, and a lot of it
Speaker 1: is due to the book that has come out by
Speaker 1: Jake Tapper and Thompson I think Alex Thompson, I believe
Speaker 1: the guy's name is, yeah, Alex Thompson of v Axios,
Speaker 1: the co author on that book. A lot of the
Speaker 1: things that have come out have been somewhat shocking. But
Speaker 1: this was another very interesting set of circumstances that was
Speaker 1: talked about by Alex Thompson. And Alex Thompson was doing
Speaker 1: an interview. Where was he doing this matter? But he
Speaker 1: was doing an interview talking about the book, and he
Speaker 1: talks about. A long time aide to former President Joe
Speaker 1: Biden admitted that the White House staff felt justified, justified
Speaker 1: somehow in doing undemocratic things during Biden's term in office
Speaker 1: because they believe that President Donald Trump posed an existential threat.
Speaker 2: To American democracy.
Speaker 1: The revelation came during an appearance by Thomas on the
Speaker 1: Fox New Sunday with Shannon Breen. He talked about insider
Speaker 1: accounts from his reporting on the Biden administration, and he
Speaker 1: talked about a mindset in the White House in which
Speaker 1: unelected aids saw themselves as the real decision makers.
Speaker 2: How do you.
Speaker 1: If you're in a position of responsibility like that, how
Speaker 1: do you get to that point? How do you get
Speaker 1: to that point? Was where you say, you know what,
Speaker 1: this guy can't do it on his own. We're going
Speaker 1: to step in and we're going to make those decisions
Speaker 1: for And I was talking to the former judge Kurt
Speaker 1: Hartman the other night, and I said, if this is true,
Speaker 1: if these people actually did this and use that auto
Speaker 1: pen without his acknowledgment, or without his blessing, or without
Speaker 1: his go ad, I said, is that criminal? And he
Speaker 1: looked at me and he said yeah, he said. You know,
Speaker 1: this is a former judge. He thinks that kind of activity,
Speaker 1: if it happened, is indeed criminal. That these aids, these
Speaker 1: staffers that many of us don't know their names, saw
Speaker 1: themselves as the as more than the gatekeepers, they you know,
Speaker 1: more than just the ones who controlled access to an
Speaker 1: ailing president. They saw themselves as the ones who would
Speaker 1: make the decisions in his stead. If you believe, and
Speaker 1: I think a lot of these people do, sincerely believe
Speaker 1: that Trump was an existential threat to democracy. You can
Speaker 1: rationalize anything, including sometimes doing undemocratic things, Thompson said. And
Speaker 1: again he's describing the mindset of these people who worked
Speaker 1: around Joe Biden in the White House. Thompson also cited
Speaker 1: a quote from his reporting in which a long time
Speaker 1: Biden made openly admitted the president just had to win
Speaker 1: and then he could disappear for four years. He only
Speaker 1: had to show proof of life every once in a while.
Speaker 1: The aide told Thompson his aides could pick up the slack.
Speaker 1: The disappointing thing is and look, I have not read
Speaker 1: the book. I do not see myself purchasing this book.
Speaker 1: I do not see myself reading this book. Maybe if
Speaker 1: someone is someone you know has me a copy of it,
Speaker 1: maybe I'll take the time to look at it and
Speaker 1: read it. But right now I'm probably not going to.
Speaker 1: I'm just from I'm just reading the accounts that that
Speaker 1: that are flowing from these various interviews that Thompson and
Speaker 1: Jake Tapper are doing. Access to Biden was tightly controlled
Speaker 1: by an inner circle of unelected staffers. And how rich
Speaker 1: is it now that we well, we sort of already
Speaker 1: worn out that that that bit of complaining from Democrats
Speaker 1: that Elon Musk was unelected, no one, no one elected
Speaker 1: him to do anything. But these were unelected staffers who
Speaker 1: managed the schedule and limited who could speak directly to him.
Speaker 1: When you're voting for president, you're voting for the aids
Speaker 1: around him, is what this aid said?
Speaker 2: Is that true?
Speaker 1: When you voted for Trump, did you vote for the
Speaker 1: people who were going to be around him? Does your
Speaker 1: vote for president give leave to those around him to
Speaker 1: act in his stead?
Speaker 2: Does it?
Speaker 1: I don't think it does. But yet these are the
Speaker 1: way these people felt to act. And the one thing
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask Brad Weinster was when when you
Speaker 1: hear a revelation like this doesn't that cheapen the office
Speaker 1: of the presidency. Doesn't that sort of just play fast
Speaker 1: and loose with how important this office should be. I mean,
Speaker 1: isn't that exceedingly disrespectful to the American people, to the
Speaker 1: people who vote, to the people who take seriously what
Speaker 1: this country is really supposed to be about. And you've
Speaker 1: got these people who not only fiddle it around with
Speaker 1: the election, but then saw sought to act in his stead.
Speaker 1: And I mean, this goes way beyond a media cover up.
Speaker 1: And I remember I was talking to ah, my buddy
Speaker 1: Joe Hoft over at joehoff dot com and when and
Speaker 1: this is when the the autopen story first broke and
Speaker 1: he was talking about I said, I said, do you
Speaker 1: think this autopen story is a big deal? And do
Speaker 1: you think this autopen story really has legs? And it's
Speaker 1: going to be in a pen? He said, it may
Speaker 1: wind up being the most important thing that we found
Speaker 1: out about the Biden White House. And so when I
Speaker 1: see things like this, you know how these staffers are saying, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you know Donald Trump and I and this is this
Speaker 1: is just another tangent. This is just another component of
Speaker 1: Trump derangement syndrome. And you would think that people who
Speaker 1: make make their way into the responsible position of actually
Speaker 1: working in the White House would be level headed enough
Speaker 1: to look at issues like you know, these these talking points,
Speaker 1: these Democrat Party talking points that go out all over
Speaker 1: the place and get repeated ed nauseam that Donald Trump
Speaker 1: is an existential threat. You would think they would be
Speaker 1: level headed enough to be able to look at that
Speaker 1: on their own and and you know, be able to
Speaker 1: come to the conclusion, well, you know, this is just
Speaker 1: some hyperbole. This this is just really an absolute exaggeration
Speaker 1: that we have enough checks and balances in this country.
Speaker 1: You know, this is a kin to Mark Milli trying
Speaker 1: to spin this narrative and create the notion that Trump
Speaker 1: somehow would go off the rails and launch a nuclear
Speaker 1: war that would threaten China to the point to where
Speaker 1: Millie felt the need, or at least he that's the
Speaker 1: way he explains it, that he felt the need to
Speaker 1: call his counterpart in China and say, look, if Trump
Speaker 1: launches a nuclear war, you know I'll have your back.
Speaker 1: I'll be here to you know, to give your heads
Speaker 1: up and do everything I can to make sure it
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. It is it is absolutely insane, how out
Speaker 1: of control these people are from top to bottom, and
Speaker 1: how out of control they were. And I didn't think
Speaker 1: the revelations from this book were going to be that
Speaker 1: big of a deal because we knew about it, we
Speaker 1: talked about it in real time. And now that this
Speaker 1: kind of stuff is coming out about how others were
Speaker 1: taking it upon themselves to make the decision for the
Speaker 1: most important office in the world. Not something that should
Speaker 1: be taken lightly. It should be frowned upon in the
Speaker 1: most serious ways. And we'll see what happens. Twelve twenty five.
Speaker 1: We've got to get to a break news coming up
Speaker 1: a bottom of the hour. Then we'll be joined by
Speaker 1: our friend Scott Powell as we roll on through this
Speaker 1: Memorial Day, Dan Carolyn for the Great American Bill Cunningham
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW. All right back on the big one,
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW twelve thirty five, make twelve thirty six now,
Speaker 1: Dan Carolyn for the Great American Bill Cunningham. And one
Speaker 1: of the guests that Bill Cunningham has on quite often,
Speaker 1: and I'm lucky enough that I get to have him
Speaker 1: on from time to time, is our buddy Scott Powell.
Speaker 1: Of the Discovery Institute and Scott Powell. Welcome again to
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Dan.
Speaker 4: It's great to be with you on this Memorial Day
Speaker 4: and great to be with the audience.
Speaker 2: Well, it certainly is.
Speaker 1: And I love having you on on day's like today
Speaker 1: because there are not many who can put into words
Speaker 1: and put it into perspective exactly why a day like
Speaker 1: today is so meaningful to us as individuals, so meaning
Speaker 1: to a fold to us as a nation. And uh,
Speaker 1: i'd like you to take a stab at that right now,
Speaker 1: talk about Memorial Day, the importance of this day and
Speaker 1: and what it what it means to this country at large.
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's safe to say that, particularly with
Speaker 4: your audience, dand that they have they felt like they've
Speaker 4: been through a lot that in some cases people feel that,
Speaker 4: you know, their lives, their orientation to their nation has
Speaker 4: been shaken to its foundation. We all acknowledge we're a
Speaker 4: blessed nation, but we've been through a lot. Really it's betrayal,
Speaker 4: it's uh, you know, we we've had not only dishonest, dishonesty,
Speaker 4: gross mismanagement, theft, but even things that would border on
Speaker 4: sedition or treason. But with holidays like Memorial Day, you know,
Speaker 4: we're reminded of values that provide actual solutions to our
Speaker 4: insturmount are apparently insurmountable problem. You know, most people rightly
Speaker 4: associate Memorial Day with paying homage to those who gave
Speaker 4: their lives for American War. It is one of America's
Speaker 4: most patriotic holidays because of doing just that, honoring those
Speaker 4: who gave their lives for American What it stands for justice,
Speaker 4: equal opportunity, life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness. But the
Speaker 4: holiday really has roots that go back to the aftermath
Speaker 4: of the Civil War. At that time, America was as
Speaker 4: or more divided than it is today. The Civil War
Speaker 4: cost at least six hundred and twenty thousand men, and
Speaker 4: many put the number up to seven hundred thousand. It
Speaker 4: was a greater cost than all the other all of
Speaker 4: America's successive wars combined, and the country was so divided
Speaker 4: after the Civil War that many thought reconciliation impossible. Yet
Speaker 4: forgiveness began with the humble and virtuous actions from the vanquished,
Speaker 4: that is the South and not the victorious North. So
Speaker 4: there's a lesson there, I think for all of Us,
Speaker 4: and it was on April twenty five, eighteen sixty six,
Speaker 4: that a group of women from Columbus, Mississippi, chose to
Speaker 4: visit Friendship Cemetery, the burial ground for about sixteen hundred
Speaker 4: men who died at the Battle of Shiloh. The Battle
Speaker 4: of Shiloh was one of the famous battles in the
Speaker 4: Civil War, and their purpose was simple.
Speaker 3: It was to honor the dead with decorations of flowers.
Speaker 3: At that time, Columbus, like the rest of the South,
Speaker 3: was occupied by Union army forces. Because the Confederacy was
Speaker 3: defeated and the Union occupied most of the urban areas
Speaker 3: and some towns, people were fearful of creating a new
Speaker 3: animosity if the decorations would favor Confederate over Union graves.
Speaker 3: But the Columbus women were a prayerful group and they
Speaker 3: had no such intention, despite having heard about the Union's
Speaker 3: cavalier mass burial treatment of Confederate army fatalities on northern
Speaker 3: battlefields where there was just there were just mass graves
Speaker 3: in many cases, and so it was that their equal
Speaker 3: decoration of the graves of both sides became a catalyst
Speaker 3: for a national reconciliation movement. Can you believe it?
Speaker 4: That simple act by those women was the beginning of
Speaker 4: a national reconciliation movement, And just a few days later,
Speaker 4: as second claimant for originating Decoration Day, which is the
Speaker 4: predecessor to Memorial Day, took place on the on Bellisle,
Speaker 4: located in the James River in Richmond, Virginia, which had
Speaker 4: been the capital of the Confederacy, And on May thirtieth,
Speaker 4: eighteen sixty six, women again played a key role.
Speaker 3: We honor our women.
Speaker 4: They placed bouquets of flowers on the graves of Union
Speaker 4: soldiers who passed away at the Confederate prison Prison of
Speaker 4: War camp that was located on that island. So, you know,
Speaker 4: in spite of the war's staggering death toll, and it was,
Speaker 4: and Confederates having inflicted more casualties on the North than
Speaker 4: the Union did to the South. I mean, they were
Speaker 4: tough fighters and great leadership under people like Stonewall Jackson
Speaker 4: and Roberty Lee. You know, President Lincoln actually recruited Robbery
Speaker 4: Lee to be the to be his general for the
Speaker 4: Union Army, and Robberie Lee turned him down because it
Speaker 4: would mean that if war, if he went to war,
Speaker 4: he'd have to fight against his family and his friends
Speaker 4: from Virginia because he was a Virginian and he couldn't
Speaker 4: do that. President Lincoln expressed no blame or bitterness towards
Speaker 4: the Confederacy and in the in his second inaugural address,
Speaker 4: which of course he he he never got a chance
Speaker 4: to serve that, but he held that he held that
Speaker 4: both sides, the North and the South, were accountable for
Speaker 4: this most costly war. And so so this decoration day
Speaker 4: came to be known as the Day of Reconciliation and
Speaker 4: commemoration to honor those loss while fighting the Civil War,
Speaker 4: but its observance really wasn't very consistent for many years.
Speaker 4: And the contribution by officers and soldiers from the South
Speaker 4: and winning the Spanish American War, this is an incredible story.
Speaker 4: The Southerners still had this spree de corps. They were
Speaker 4: great fighters, and they were instrumental in America winning its
Speaker 4: next major war, the Spanish American War, and they wanted
Speaker 4: no time. It was like I think the war lasted
Speaker 4: not even a week. It was an eighteen ninety eight
Speaker 4: and this provided a catalyst for erecting what came to
Speaker 4: be known as the Reconciliation monument in Arlington Cemetery, a
Speaker 4: project overseen by four presidents and finally unveiled in nineteen
Speaker 4: fourteen by President Woodrow Wilson. Anyway, the long story short
Speaker 4: is that ultimately Reconciliation Day did ultimately become Memorial Day.
Speaker 4: You know, there was a recognition that we had subsequent
Speaker 4: wars and war deaths need to be honored, and so
Speaker 4: it was that Memorial Day came to be the ultimate
Speaker 4: holiday paying tribute to all casualties, all that lost their
Speaker 4: lives in in uh in the course of war for
Speaker 4: the United States.
Speaker 2: Well, Scott Powell, it is it is.
Speaker 1: I I listen to you talk all day and and
Speaker 1: it's so interesting the way you tell these stories and
Speaker 1: you go back to that, to that that first simple
Speaker 1: act of death, of of decorating the graves of the
Speaker 1: fallen on both sides, and you think, you think about that,
Speaker 1: and you think about the country today, and I look
Speaker 1: at what's happening around the country today, and I think
Speaker 1: we're starting to slowly get back to that, to realizing
Speaker 1: that it is it is the simple things that we
Speaker 1: do that really wind up making the biggest difference. And
Speaker 1: especially on a daylight today, you know, the laying of
Speaker 1: the wreath at the at the Tomb of the Unknown.
Speaker 1: That is a very simple act that the president does
Speaker 1: every year. When you look at the communities, you know
Speaker 1: there are I think there are around here the Cincinnati
Speaker 1: and the Tri State area. I think there are more
Speaker 1: Memorial Day events going on today than I can remember
Speaker 1: in past years, whether whether it's a parade or a
Speaker 1: community event, or someone's giving a speech, or you know,
Speaker 1: there's some sort of outreach going on to veterans. I
Speaker 1: think there's all kinds of things like that going on.
Speaker 1: And again, these are not grand, giant production things. These
Speaker 1: are simple things that in a lot of cases, it's
Speaker 1: either someone at a legion hall, individuals within their community,
Speaker 1: you know, a town council that's deciding to take these small,
Speaker 1: simple steps. But it's those simple things I think that
Speaker 1: wind up having the most meeting. I was talking with
Speaker 1: a guest the other night and we were talking about
Speaker 1: the idea of saying the Pledge of Allegiance in school.
Speaker 1: And I remember when I was a kid that we
Speaker 1: did this, and I went to Catholic school and we
Speaker 1: did this every day. We said the Pledge of Allegiance
Speaker 1: in school and I think for a while, a long time,
Speaker 1: we got away from that sort of thing. But when
Speaker 1: you have just that simple act of standing and addressing
Speaker 1: the flag every day, it instills those values, especially in
Speaker 1: young people, that can last a lifetime and really make a.
Speaker 4: Difference absolutely well, you know, I think it's important for everybody,
Speaker 4: and particularly your audience is probably opened to this message
Speaker 4: more than others. Is that we are in a spiritual battle.
Speaker 4: This battles, you know, has been actually raging since the
Speaker 4: beginning of you know, the bidding of time, as in
Speaker 4: Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, the fall
Speaker 4: of Man, and that introduced you know, division and evil
Speaker 4: into an evil force. And this force has really been
Speaker 4: in ascendance in America because we have abandoned we have
Speaker 4: really abandoned God to a larger extent than ever before.
Speaker 4: We have marginalized Christianity. We have and in so doing,
Speaker 4: you know, God's protective hand, because God protects us through
Speaker 4: spiritual forces, we have lost in some ways that protective
Speaker 4: hand of God. And and and we've seen the results
Speaker 4: of that, I mean, the the level of uncivility, incivility,
Speaker 4: urban chaos, uh has really is unprecedented in America. And
Speaker 4: so I think our real hope is that we see
Speaker 4: a spiritual revival. The spiritual revival will bring about cultural revival,
Speaker 4: and that cultural revival, of course, will bring about a
Speaker 4: greater political alignment, because politics is actually a lot of
Speaker 4: people look to politics as solving the problem. No, politics
Speaker 4: is downstream of what people believe of the culture. And
Speaker 4: the culture traditionally has been shaped by the most powerful forces.
Speaker 4: And the most powerful force of all is the force
Speaker 4: of God and God's hand in society. And when we've
Speaker 4: had God's hand in society, things have gone much better
Speaker 4: when we have walked away from God. And this is
Speaker 4: not true just for America. It was true for Israel.
Speaker 4: It is true for you know, it's true for any society,
Speaker 4: but particularly the Judaeo Christian society, because Judaism and Christianity
Speaker 4: is the ultimate truth. I have studied the other religions,
Speaker 4: they do not even hold a candle to the depth
Speaker 4: of truth that is in the Holy scriptures in the Bible.
Speaker 4: The Bible is a user's manual for every possible problem
Speaker 4: you could have in life.
Speaker 2: That's an interesting way to put that.
Speaker 4: It really is. It will help you through every difficulty.
Speaker 4: It will heal your relationships. It will give you hope
Speaker 4: and purpose and oi uh and uh so so is
Speaker 4: so we are agda Christian nation.
Speaker 3: But uh, you know, I think back.
Speaker 4: You know, I may have a few years on you, Dan,
Speaker 4: but if I if I think back the way life
Speaker 4: was in the late fifties and early sixties, I would
Speaker 4: not And that's where I was, and suddenly I was
Speaker 4: transported in time to the President America. I wouldn't recognize
Speaker 4: the President of America.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you would have to say, how did we
Speaker 1: get here from from.
Speaker 2: From being being there?
Speaker 1: But you know, I think about those things, you know,
Speaker 1: just those basic bedrock principles and the simple things that
Speaker 1: make a difference in our lives, and I think about
Speaker 1: trying to get back and have great reliance on those
Speaker 1: sorts of things is not going to be It's not
Speaker 1: going to be an easy thing because there's so many
Speaker 1: in this country today who want to uh you know,
Speaker 1: who want to look counter you know, or or look
Speaker 1: as you know, look at that and and and think
Speaker 1: to you know, we can't have this sort of thing
Speaker 1: because it's not inclusive enough. It doesn't include everybody. And
Speaker 1: I think, you know, when I when I look at
Speaker 1: the something like the Constitution. You know, that's the beauty
Speaker 1: of the Constitution. Rush Limbaugh said. One time, he said
Speaker 1: he asked a caller, he said, do you know what
Speaker 1: the smallest minority in the world is? And the caller
Speaker 1: was dumbfound and you know, they couldn't answer the question.
Speaker 1: And he said, the smallest minority is the individual, each individual,
Speaker 1: you and yourself and you there is no one else,
Speaker 1: even if you're a twin, there is no one else
Speaker 1: exactly like you. Therefore you are the smallest. And that's
Speaker 1: the brilliance of the Constitution because it is meant for
Speaker 1: the individual. And therefore, anyone who is lucky enough to
Speaker 1: be an American citizen and you know, subject to this
Speaker 1: jurisdiction thereof the Constitution. You're covered by the Constitution and
Speaker 1: no one no matter who you are or what you
Speaker 1: believe or what you do, you are not excluded from that.
Speaker 1: And I think if we you know, I think we
Speaker 1: get away from that. And a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: don't recognize it or look at it like that.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, the Americans need to be reminded of
Speaker 4: the very blessed position that we hold because we are
Speaker 4: the first, the United States of America is the first
Speaker 4: nation in all of human history that was founded on
Speaker 4: basically two major axioms. Number one, that people had unalienable
Speaker 4: rights to life, to liberty, to the pursuit of happiness.
Speaker 4: And number two, that it was the role of government
Speaker 4: to protect these rights enshrine in the Bill of Rights,
Speaker 4: because there are more rights than just what was articulated
Speaker 4: in the Declaration of Independence. You know, there's a right
Speaker 4: of due process and the right of your privacy being
Speaker 4: honored without you know, either can't the police, can't just
Speaker 4: show up and barge into your house, and a whole
Speaker 4: host of other other rights. But uh, we forget that.
Speaker 4: No other nation had this before, No other nation was
Speaker 4: founded this way. We were founded on ideas. We weren't
Speaker 4: founded on the spoils of war or really one uh
Speaker 4: you know, one culture, one language, one ethnic group. We
Speaker 4: were you know, I mean, we were a multi ethnic
Speaker 4: country from the very beginning. And yes we we Unfortunately,
Speaker 4: slavery had crept into America.
Speaker 3: We didn't ask for it.
Speaker 4: It came to our shores, if you will, and it
Speaker 4: sort of came in and then it got embedded in
Speaker 4: the agricultural South, which was very labor intensive. But do
Speaker 4: you know, and most people don't know this, and they
Speaker 4: should know it, because there's so much nonsense and disinformation
Speaker 4: about the founding of America that we were founded on
Speaker 4: the basis of slavery totally falls. When the Constitutional Convention
Speaker 4: took place, and you had delegates from the southern states
Speaker 4: and the northern all of the states, all thirteen states,
Speaker 4: with the exception of Rhode Island which did not did participate.
Speaker 4: They did vote for the ultimate ratification. But they knew
Speaker 4: the delegates of the Constitution Convention had one purpose, and
Speaker 4: that was to create a new government. And they knew
Speaker 4: that they couldn't solve the problem of slavery. That would
Speaker 4: be impossible, but they knew it was important, it was
Speaker 4: morally important to make a statement. So an article one,
Speaker 4: section nine of the Constitution there is that that section
Speaker 4: says specifically that all slave trade would cease in the
Speaker 4: United States by eighteen oh seven. By eighteen oh eight,
Speaker 4: there would be no more slave trade. It was a
Speaker 4: twenty year you know, sort of a will allow this
Speaker 4: to go on for twenty more years, but then it stops.
Speaker 4: By law, by constitutional law, slave trade was to stop.
Speaker 4: We were the first nation in human history also to
Speaker 4: outlaw slave trade. We did it before Great Britain did.
Speaker 4: And people don't even know this greatness of America. And yes,
Speaker 4: it wasn't fully realized really until Martin Luther King, who
Speaker 4: really you know, he really delivered on Jefferson's Declaration of
Speaker 4: Independence that all people were created equal. He said that
Speaker 4: in the declaration. Of course it wasn't it wasn't realized.
Speaker 4: But the march of progress, and this is God's hand
Speaker 4: in American history raised up another man, Martin Luther King,
Speaker 4: an imperfect man. Remember, God only has sinners to work through.
Speaker 4: No one's perfect. You know, the great King David Solomon,
Speaker 4: they were all sinners, they all made huge mises, and
Speaker 4: yet God use them. And it's the same for our
Speaker 4: president today. I believe he's not a perfect man, but
Speaker 4: God is using him. But in any case, Martin Luther
Speaker 4: King delivered. He cast a vision that in the future
Speaker 4: he looked forward to a society where his children and
Speaker 4: grandchildren would be evaluated by the content of their character
Speaker 4: and not the color of their skin.
Speaker 1: Isn't that amazing How many people want to just gloss
Speaker 1: over that and act as if that that is no
Speaker 1: longer the standard that we should abide by it.
Speaker 4: Well, the point is that we by driving Christianity out
Speaker 4: of our culture, we lost the momentum that Martin Luther
Speaker 4: King established and we've allowed the evil forces to sort
Speaker 4: of dominate the narrative. Critical race theory, diversity, equity. These
Speaker 4: were all derivatives, derivatives of Marxism. Marx was one of
Speaker 4: the most demonic people in human history. Two of his
Speaker 4: daughters committed suicide. He was abusive to his wife. He
Speaker 4: never could pay for any bills. He relied on the
Speaker 4: large ess of Angles and others to bail him out.
Speaker 4: He was an evil man, and he created this ideology
Speaker 4: of Marxism, which is morphed into many different neo Marxist ideologies.
Speaker 4: But it's all nonsense. It's contrary to God.
Speaker 1: We continue to see the results of that today. But
Speaker 1: Scott Powell, our time is gone. As always, my friend,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you being here and uh, I hope you
Speaker 1: have a great rest of your weekend. And thank you, Jill,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for the time. As always, it
Speaker 1: is it is the highlight of my day when I
Speaker 1: get to have you on the show.
Speaker 4: You're you're very kind, man, you're you're you're quite a guy.
Speaker 4: And I say God bless you and your ministry and
Speaker 4: all you all your listeners get you know, dial into
Speaker 4: to Bill Cunningham and Dan Carroll because uh, talk radio
Speaker 4: is not easy and they need they need more listeners
Speaker 4: to drive up those advertising revenues so they can do
Speaker 4: more and more so that so that their reach can
Speaker 4: go further. We've got to turn this country.
Speaker 1: You're the best, You're the best. Thank you, man, have
Speaker 1: our great rest of your day. Okay, thanks, all right,
Speaker 1: there you go, one and only Scott Powell. Look them
Speaker 1: up at the Discovery Institute. You'll be glad you did.
Speaker 1: Twelve fifty five seven hundred WLW. Al right back on
Speaker 1: the big one, seven hundred WLW. It's one o nine
Speaker 1: Memorial Day game. Carroll in for Bill Cunningham. I hope
Speaker 1: you're having a great, great day, great three day weekend.
Speaker 1: As we get ready to wrap up the weekend, Reds
Speaker 1: Baseball coming up just after three o'clock. Chick Ludwick is
Speaker 1: going to have the inside pitch for you, and uh, well,
Speaker 1: hopefully the Reds will get off that skid they are
Speaker 1: on currently. Let's welcome in our next guest. This is
Speaker 1: a woman that I met when I was a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago when I was at an event with
Speaker 1: the Dan Varner Foundation. There was another event a couple
Speaker 1: of weekends ago, and and she was a little cross
Speaker 1: with me because I had not invited her back on
Speaker 1: the show since then, and so I told her that
Speaker 1: I would invite her back, and here she is, and
Speaker 1: Evangeline Devaal, it is great to have you back on
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: How are you.
Speaker 5: I'm well, Dan, how are you well?
Speaker 1: I had you on, I had you on for one
Speaker 1: interview and then and then we never did follow up again.
Speaker 1: But it's great to have you back on today. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Let's talk a little bit. I
Speaker 1: know you've got other foundations that you do work for.
Speaker 1: I want to get into all that, but we have
Speaker 1: a just a fantastic event for the Dan Varner Foundation
Speaker 1: a couple of weekends ago with Belle Tara and I mean.
Speaker 2: Byron Larkin was there.
Speaker 1: I got to hang out with Solomon Willcotts and some
Speaker 1: other great names from it, especially around the East Side.
Speaker 1: But talk a little bit about the Varner Foundation and
Speaker 1: the work that they do and the reason I really
Speaker 1: love the Varner Foundation is because every dime, every penny
Speaker 1: that is donated to the Varner Foundation goes to the
Speaker 1: mission of helping kids in foster care.
Speaker 5: Thank you. No, I would love to tell you about
Speaker 5: the Varner Foundation, obviously about the event, but can I
Speaker 5: just take like a couple of minutes or just one
Speaker 5: minute to talk about Memorial Day from maybe a different person?
Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you. So I grew up overseas because
Speaker 5: my dad was with a multi national company and every
Speaker 5: my parents were British. Every Memorial Day, it didn't matter
Speaker 5: where we were, Hong Kong or Argentina, it just didn't matter.
Speaker 5: My dad would invite my mom and dad servicemen that
Speaker 5: were stationed in that country to come over from a
Speaker 5: rail day because it was so darn important to him.
Speaker 6: Dad.
Speaker 5: My dad is a missionary's kid, or was a missionary's kid,
Speaker 5: and he was born in China and very very young
Speaker 5: when or to start it and he and his family
Speaker 5: will put it put into a Japanese prisoner of war camp.
Speaker 5: And my father everybody had a job. My dad was
Speaker 5: as a kid, small kid, was working in the kitchen
Speaker 5: and then he got contracted malaria and the Japanese put
Speaker 5: him in the sewers to work because most people that
Speaker 5: contracted Larry didn't didn't survive. Had it not been for
Speaker 5: the American forces that broke through the camp and rescued
Speaker 5: my dad and his family, he came, he went back
Speaker 5: to England on a hospital ship, my life would be
Speaker 5: completely different. And my dad, he spent his whole life
Speaker 5: being so thankful to the American forces that and they
Speaker 5: lost from men when it happened that broke through the
Speaker 5: camp and rescued him in the same So this means
Speaker 5: a lot to me. So I just wanted to share
Speaker 5: that that's great.
Speaker 1: Well, I thank you for that, And I mean the
Speaker 1: we've been talking about the importance of Memorial Day and
Speaker 1: it is it is great to hear that that story,
Speaker 1: So I thank.
Speaker 2: You for that.
Speaker 5: From a little different perspective anyway, the Warner Foundation for
Speaker 5: Children and Family, there are five of us that founded
Speaker 5: it with Dan, or four of us that founded it
Speaker 5: with Dan back five years ago, and it mainly came
Speaker 5: out of the fact that because of the other work
Speaker 5: that I do, it became very very obvious that I
Speaker 5: had a lot of children in poverty that I worked
Speaker 5: with that were taken into foster care or pinship care
Speaker 5: and then returned in work shape than they'd ever been
Speaker 5: before they started. And when I started to dig into
Speaker 5: that and look into it, and Dan and I have
Speaker 5: been friends ever since you did a fundraiser for my
Speaker 5: other nonprofit, I found that there was such a huge
Speaker 5: both is this huge gap in need for fostering parents
Speaker 5: and kinship, And that's what kind of got us all started.
Speaker 5: What's so neat about the Warner Foundation for Children and
Speaker 5: Families and that it stands in the resource gap for
Speaker 5: families that are fostering, whether it's a kinship grandmother, grandfather,
Speaker 5: uncle and aunt, or a traditional foster family, is that
Speaker 5: nobody else does this that we've enabled to find it's
Speaker 5: and it's one of the reasons that fifty percent of
Speaker 5: the people that are fostering in the United States will
Speaker 5: give it up within the first year because they don't
Speaker 5: feel supported in and they don't have the resources resources
Speaker 5: that these kidneys that are really out of the box mean.
Speaker 5: For instance, one of the things that I talked about
Speaker 5: at the event was a portable oxygen thanks for a
Speaker 5: little person that wasn't even a year old that was
Speaker 5: inter care. How that makes such a big difference, and
Speaker 5: no place ILSE will pay for this that a care
Speaker 5: wouldn't pay for Newbity did. So we stand in those
Speaker 5: kind of gaps grandparents. I can't tell you how many
Speaker 5: are cars we fixed or tires because these a lot
Speaker 5: of these grandparents are on fixed income and they have
Speaker 5: to take in their kids if they don't want them
Speaker 5: their regular foster care. And if there's more than two
Speaker 5: of them, which often there is, these kids are going
Speaker 5: to get split up because the system can't handle them
Speaker 5: all being together. And then on top of that, all
Speaker 5: the trauma that these kids have gone through some of
Speaker 5: them is just just horrific and I can't even read
Speaker 5: the words sometimes when the branch come in the abuse
Speaker 5: they had and all the rest of it, and they
Speaker 5: need special therapy. They need therapy, to camp, they need
Speaker 5: so many other things. Some of them have hearing loss
Speaker 5: that they've never been addressed. Some of them just just
Speaker 5: need the whole family needs help. So that's why we're
Speaker 5: really proud, Dan and I and also Brent Colehath and
Speaker 5: Laura Calhoun and Rob Cook. I mean, we're this little
Speaker 5: trio that go around and try and be the alternative
Speaker 5: to what's going on right now, and it's unfortunately just
Speaker 5: getting worse and worse. When we started this five years ago,
Speaker 5: every two minutes the child was put into foster care.
Speaker 5: Now it's every minute and a half.
Speaker 7: Wow. Wow.
Speaker 5: Yeah. And it's thousands and thousands and thousands of these kids.
Speaker 5: And if we don't get in this to help good
Speaker 5: fostering situations, nurture and love of them, care for these kids,
Speaker 5: then most of these kids, and most of them come
Speaker 5: from low income situations, will end up traffic And you know,
Speaker 5: I'm all about putting a dent in that Ohio is
Speaker 5: the third state in the nation percentage wife for the
Speaker 5: trafficing case. For facts, and between the fact that the
Speaker 5: United States as a whole, we are now number one
Speaker 5: consumer and number one distributor of child in the whole world.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you well, Evangelina, I'm glad you brought
Speaker 1: that up, because that's why I know you're so passionate
Speaker 1: about that particular subject. When it comes to child and
Speaker 1: child traffick amy, it is absolutely one of the one
Speaker 1: of the worst stains in the history of this country.
Speaker 1: And I wanted to ask you about where are we
Speaker 1: on that on battling that scourge right now. I don't
Speaker 1: know if if you were shocked by the number that
Speaker 1: came out when they talked about three hundred thousand plus
Speaker 1: migrant children who got into the system under the Biden
Speaker 1: administration and then wound up being lost because they didn't
Speaker 1: follow up on the people who were supposed to be
Speaker 1: vetted on taking them in and all the rest of it.
Speaker 1: And I know that has been a priority for Tom
Speaker 1: Holman and the Trump administration too, to try and track
Speaker 1: these kill these children down, find out where they are,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, and maybe bring to justice those
Speaker 1: who are responsible for inflicting this upon these kids. But
Speaker 1: where are we on that battle right now? Give me
Speaker 1: a give me a report. What's the latest do you know
Speaker 1: on that? And were you shocked by that three hundred
Speaker 1: thousand number.
Speaker 5: I wasn't shocked at all because one of the dating
Speaker 5: at billi Opia, capital of the United States, and I
Speaker 5: have a lot of friends that are in police forces
Speaker 5: and they're run up and down seventy five and seventy
Speaker 5: one and see this every single day.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 5: That when when the border was so open, and this
Speaker 5: isn't a political statement at all, but when the border
Speaker 5: was so open. The cartels used to together family units,
Speaker 5: fake family units to be able to travel and get
Speaker 5: over the quarterer and travel, and most of them headed
Speaker 5: towards being forwards Ohio. And because they were carrying over
Speaker 5: it and point out that's free to go. And so
Speaker 5: a lot of these kids, once their usefulness was done,
Speaker 5: they were either sold or they were discarded in another way.
Speaker 5: And that was where I want seventy one and seventy five.
Speaker 5: I have some friends after one year of running down
Speaker 5: as that are in the police running down that just
Speaker 5: gave up. They couldn't do it anymore. It was just
Speaker 5: too hard. It was just so hard. And the average
Speaker 5: age of a child being traffic for sex of eleven,
Speaker 5: and the average aged age of being able to live
Speaker 5: being traffic is only seven years. And then they will
Speaker 5: perish from drug overdos or beatings or something like that.
Speaker 5: But I think it is getting better in the sense
Speaker 5: that people now know about it. They didn't really know
Speaker 5: about it before. They didn't really see what this looks like.
Speaker 5: And everybody. There's a lot of really good organizations like
Speaker 5: not for Sale that I'm very passionate about, that are
Speaker 5: really trying to get out there and do it. One
Speaker 5: of the biggest problems, and I hate this whole conversation
Speaker 5: be so negative, but one of the biggest problems is
Speaker 5: you have children that don't speak English, don't know where
Speaker 5: they came from, someone as young that don't even know
Speaker 5: their name, and here you have the wonderful carrying American
Speaker 5: authorities trying to figure it out. What do you do
Speaker 5: with a child when you don't know what You can't
Speaker 5: send them back because you don't know where they came from,
Speaker 5: so they're trying to find placements for that. And then
Speaker 5: not only is the language barrier, but the trauma these
Speaker 5: kids have been true, your brain never forgets, the trauma
Speaker 5: never does. And they have behavior problems and may not
Speaker 5: even some of them are so to traumatize or become
Speaker 5: non verbal. So there's there's so many layers to what
Speaker 5: these kids are going through and we just and they
Speaker 5: didn't get to choose this, They didn't get to have
Speaker 5: any say and everything they're happening to them. And if
Speaker 5: anything I could get across today, it would be we need,
Speaker 5: we need to be their voice because they don't have
Speaker 5: a voice, They're invisible and unless they speak up loudly,
Speaker 5: what do we do with that, I mean, and it
Speaker 5: takes all of us to figure it out, not everybody
Speaker 5: to do what I do, but at least talk about it,
Speaker 5: at least at least be aware of it. Well if
Speaker 5: you're a senator, right, it's Congress and something.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, And that's one of the reasons I wanted
Speaker 1: to have you on, because I think it's important that,
Speaker 1: you know, we bring awareness to this subject, even though
Speaker 1: it is so negative and and it's it's just horrible
Speaker 1: to hear about these sorts of uh, you know, the
Speaker 1: sort of faith that befalls these little kids and evangelin
Speaker 1: We've only got a couple of minutes left here. But
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this while you were talking, and
Speaker 1: I was thinking about have you been able to figure
Speaker 1: out or have you even tried to figure out.
Speaker 2: Why is it?
Speaker 1: What is it about Ohio that makes it so attractive
Speaker 1: to people who engage in this sort of activity.
Speaker 5: But I think part of the reason, because yeah, I
Speaker 5: think part of the reason is because of Dayton. Dayton is,
Speaker 5: as I said, it's still considered, if not the number
Speaker 5: of the capital of Opius here in the United States,
Speaker 5: there still is one. A lot of drugs are going
Speaker 5: through going to Dayton. And if they do go through Dayton,
Speaker 5: Dayton is a beautiful place, but they're going to go
Speaker 5: up seventy five and seventy one, go from top to bottom.
Speaker 5: It's easy, accent, and it's just it's a straight shot,
Speaker 5: and so it's easy, and a lot of them will
Speaker 5: continue to go up into Canada. So I think that's
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 7: I don't.
Speaker 5: I think that's a guess on my part. And once
Speaker 5: it has to be so heavily involved in it is
Speaker 5: us so But other than that, I really don't know.
Speaker 5: But I do want to say I do want to
Speaker 5: say that again, kind of hearkening back into my Memorial
Speaker 5: Day story. I as Americans, we can fix anything that
Speaker 5: we want to say we can. We can rise up
Speaker 5: and do whatever we want to do. And right now
Speaker 5: this is our crisis. Are these kids with and and
Speaker 5: some of the things that are having these kids to
Speaker 5: put them into foster care and teamship care, the abuse
Speaker 5: they go through and all the rest of it. And
Speaker 5: we don't have to be this way. We when we
Speaker 5: make up our minds, damn it, we do it. But
Speaker 5: it's it's gonna take all of us to do it.
Speaker 5: And and kind of concentrate especially children. Children just don't
Speaker 5: have a voice, and they don't they can't speak for themselves,
Speaker 5: so they're dependent on speaking for us or for us
Speaker 5: to speak for them.
Speaker 1: So well, Evangeline in a in a in the l
Speaker 1: the last forty five seconds we have here, did I
Speaker 1: see on your Facebook page that you have an event
Speaker 1: coming up on June the second?
Speaker 2: Did I say that?
Speaker 5: I am? Oh, yeah, that's I am. That's great. I
Speaker 5: am stepping after ten years I was. I was the
Speaker 5: founder and executive of Next Community Line Center, which is yeah,
Speaker 5: and I'm stepping stepping down from that as being the ED.
Speaker 5: I'm still going to be the ED at the Varner Foundation,
Speaker 5: but I feel very strongly that doors are opening for
Speaker 5: me to speak and read, uh I'm sorry, speak and
Speaker 5: write and teach about kids just like the ones that
Speaker 5: we talked about, as well as neurodivergent kids and how
Speaker 5: they're struggling with education and kids are what I live
Speaker 5: and breathe all day long, and so that's where I'm
Speaker 5: headed that. So if anybody ever needs a speaker for
Speaker 5: something on a ton of different topics when it comes
Speaker 5: to children, I hope that they'll reach out to me.
Speaker 5: They can find me at E DE all E B
Speaker 5: E C O l SO atmail dot com. Right, and
Speaker 5: thank you so very much for taking the time to
Speaker 5: talk to me.
Speaker 1: Well, Evangeline, I promise, I promise I won't wait so
Speaker 1: long to have you on again.
Speaker 2: I promise.
Speaker 5: Okay, please do.
Speaker 1: Please do ye you've got you got my number, you
Speaker 1: can you hold me to it? Okay, all right, evangel.
Speaker 5: And thank you for all your support.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Evangeline. Have a great rest of your weekend. And
Speaker 1: thank you very much, Evangeline. Deal and you can if
Speaker 1: you didn't get all that, you can just go to
Speaker 1: the Varner Foundation and you can look her up through
Speaker 1: there as well. One twenty five Dan Carroll in for
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham on seven hundred WLW seven hundred WLW one
Speaker 1: thirty six Memorial Day, Dan Carroll in for Bill Cunningham,
Speaker 1: and we are rolling on till three o'clock this afternoon.
Speaker 1: Reds Baseball coming up at I think what's first pitch,
Speaker 1: Dave was the four h five first pitch four ten,
Speaker 1: something like that, But Chick Ludwig, we'll be here at
Speaker 1: three ten with the inside pitch and then we'll have
Speaker 1: some Reds baseball. I believe they are in Kansas City
Speaker 1: and they got to do better than what they did
Speaker 1: with the three games with the against the Cubs. Trying
Speaker 1: to reach out to our buddy Jim Serger. Jim Serger,
Speaker 1: local author, has written all kinds of books. We were
Speaker 1: talking to him last time about his book that came
Speaker 1: out called Jump the fortieth anniversary of attending the nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty four Van Handling concert. He's got a couple of
Speaker 1: more books that are getting ready to come out, and
Speaker 1: we will talk to him about that as soon as
Speaker 1: we can make the connection. So we are this is
Speaker 1: the way it goes sometimes when we have guests coming
Speaker 1: up on the show. But we'll try and reach out
Speaker 1: to him and see if we can't get to him
Speaker 1: before too long. In other news and other stories going on,
Speaker 1: the Democrats have an interesting proposal. They need to somehow
Speaker 1: reconnect with mail voters. Democrats strategists are struggling to come
Speaker 1: up with Donald Trump's decisive right word shift in the electorate.
Speaker 1: So they look at the people who are voting and
Speaker 1: they see how their message is being rejected. But instead
Speaker 1: of coming up with a message that resonates with voters,
Speaker 1: say I don't know, a message of maybe truth, a
Speaker 1: message of maybe, you know, getting away from all this
Speaker 1: DEI and transgender nuttiness. No, they need to spend a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of money and talk with consultants and figuring out,
Speaker 1: you know, why people aren't voting for them. The New
Speaker 1: York Times published the first installment of a deep dive
Speaker 1: into the Democrats' efforts to figure out and correct what
Speaker 1: went wrong in the election. The report describes it as
Speaker 1: a defeat that felt like both a political and cultural rejection.
Speaker 1: You don't say. Among the democrats problems how to reach
Speaker 1: young men. Reporter Shane Goldmacher reported on a proposed twenty
Speaker 1: million dollar study that would study the syntax, the language
Speaker 1: that would that is attractive to young men.
Speaker 2: So there go.
Speaker 1: Their idea is to go out find out how young
Speaker 1: men talk to each other and then somehow ure I
Speaker 1: don't know if they're going to do this through AI.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're going to, you know, put
Speaker 1: out a bunch of commercials with you know, whatever language
Speaker 1: they figure is hip and understandable to people of that
Speaker 1: age group. But somehow this is going to cost twenty
Speaker 1: million bucks. The Democrat donors and strategists have been gathering
Speaker 1: at luxury hotels to talk about how to win back
Speaker 1: the working class voters. All right, let's let let's break
Speaker 1: that sentence down. They've been gathering at luxury hotels to
Speaker 1: discuss out of impact.
Speaker 2: Working class voters.
Speaker 1: Maybe not gathering at luxury hotels might be something that
Speaker 1: you would think about. Let's see, they've come up with
Speaker 1: new projects that read like anthropological studies of people from
Speaker 1: far away places.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 1: They say the effort attained obtained by The Times aims
Speaker 1: to reverse the erosion of Democrats support among young men,
Speaker 1: especially online. It's code named SAM, short for Speaking with
Speaker 1: American Men. SAM a strategic plan to study the syntax,
Speaker 1: the language and content that gains attention and virtually or
Speaker 1: a virally in all these spaces recommended buying advertisements and
Speaker 1: video games, among other things. So instead of you know,
Speaker 1: being being positive about the message that you have, right,
Speaker 1: instead of going out there and saying, hey, this is
Speaker 1: what we stand for, this is what we think is important.
Speaker 1: You know, this is what is going to move America forward.
Speaker 1: This is I don't want to use, you know, a phrase,
Speaker 1: you know, make America great again. But this is a
Speaker 1: this is a plan that is going to make America great.
Speaker 2: This Instead of.
Speaker 1: Doing that, now they've got to go out and try
Speaker 1: and bamboozle you. They've got to go out and try
Speaker 1: and you know, through smoke and mirrors, somehow make that
Speaker 1: make that connection that is going to serve the you
Speaker 1: know not they don't talk about serving the American people. Well,
Speaker 1: they talk about serving themselves. Well, they talk about, you know,
Speaker 1: what is going to make us popular against what is
Speaker 1: going to make people vote for us? Instead of having
Speaker 1: you know, solid ideas, how to put more money in
Speaker 1: people's paychecks, how to get government off your back, how
Speaker 1: to make government more responsive to things that need to
Speaker 1: be done, instead of looking at stuff like that. Now,
Speaker 1: got to have these consultants look at what they're saying
Speaker 1: to each other on the video games. Right, where do
Speaker 1: they want to hang out. Let's go in there and
Speaker 1: create some kind of program that's going to get them
Speaker 1: to vote for us. Is that really what's going to
Speaker 1: attract people to vote for Democrats? And who really votes
Speaker 1: for a political party anymore?
Speaker 2: Anyway?
Speaker 1: I think, you know, maybe I'm wrong about this, but
Speaker 1: I think, you know, there are some generations that are
Speaker 1: older than I am that, and I think to some
Speaker 1: extent it's it's probably true that people there are some
Speaker 1: people who will vote for Democrats just because that's who
Speaker 1: they've always voted for. But I think, at least I
Speaker 1: hope that in the world we live in today, with
Speaker 1: the availability of all the information that's out there, you know,
Speaker 1: all the stuff on the internet, everything you can possibly read,
Speaker 1: and all the rest of it, that you judge candidates
Speaker 1: individually instead of by whatever political party they represent. I
Speaker 1: would like to think that's true. I really I can't
Speaker 1: think of I can't think of anyone I know who
Speaker 1: goes out and I certainly don't. I don't vote for
Speaker 1: Republicans just because they're with the Republican Party. That is,
Speaker 1: to me, that is as stupid as saying that, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to hire someone because they're a woman, or
Speaker 1: I want to hire someone because they're black, or I
Speaker 1: want to hire someone because they're a minority. I think
Speaker 1: that's a that's just ridiculous. You know, I think you
Speaker 1: can speak in generalities. Obviously, you know what the you
Speaker 1: know what the how the Republicans differ from the Democrats,
Speaker 1: the two political parties differ from each other. But think
Speaker 1: about that in a practical way. How do you go out,
Speaker 1: how do you commission a study that's going to cost
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars to go out and look at young
Speaker 1: people and what they're saying on video games and how
Speaker 1: they're you know, maybe look at their chats and all
Speaker 1: the rest of them. I mean, we know that this
Speaker 1: administration was busy before trying to crack down on freedom
Speaker 1: of speech, especially speech that they didn't like, whether it
Speaker 1: was political speech. And it started with the notion that
Speaker 1: people were putting out things that were a different than
Speaker 1: what the administration was saying when it came to the
Speaker 1: Wuhan virus, if they if the administration didn't like. I
Speaker 1: was talking to doctor Brian C. June Deaf on my
Speaker 1: show on Well it was Saturday night. I had him
Speaker 1: on and he was talking about how he was attacked
Speaker 1: because in the early days of the Wuhan virus, he
Speaker 1: came out and he dared to point out some things
Speaker 1: that he thought the government was doing wrong, especially as
Speaker 1: it related to the you know, once the Biden administration.
Speaker 2: Got in trouble or got into power.
Speaker 1: And what they were doing wrong about the vaccine and
Speaker 1: how you know that certain doctors had to be shut
Speaker 1: up because they didn't agree with the limitations on the
Speaker 1: treatments that individuals could receive. And so he talked about
Speaker 1: how his license was threatened. This is what the previous
Speaker 1: administration did. So when it comes to cracking down on
Speaker 1: freedom of speech, well, you know, they're old hands at
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. And now the idea that they
Speaker 1: want to monitor the speech of young people and try
Speaker 1: to I guess, mimic that or copy that or feed
Speaker 1: it back to them in a certain way, and that
Speaker 1: by doing that and creating commercials or you know, something
Speaker 1: that these individuals will see online is going to encourage
Speaker 1: them to vote Democrat when it comes time for them
Speaker 1: to vote.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I look at that plan and I just hope there's
Speaker 1: someone in the room who's smart enough to stand up
Speaker 1: to that plan and say, you know, what are we
Speaker 1: doing here? Hey, how is it that you think it's
Speaker 1: a good idea to spend twenty million dollars doing something
Speaker 1: like that?
Speaker 2: So I don't know, I don't know where.
Speaker 1: And especially not only do they come up with a
Speaker 1: plan like that, but they let you know, they let
Speaker 1: the details of that plan get out and so don't
Speaker 1: you don't don't you know if you're one of these
Speaker 1: individual you know they're not going to target They're not
Speaker 1: talking about targeting guys like me. They're talking talking about
Speaker 1: targeting guys like my son and uh and and probably
Speaker 1: a lot of you listening now have kids that age
Speaker 1: as well, especially you know, the the you know, I
Speaker 1: guess they're not that worried about women, because when I'm
Speaker 1: reading here, doesn't talk about how they're concerned about women
Speaker 1: voting Democrats. And you got to get those guys, got
Speaker 1: to find out, you know, study their language, study their
Speaker 1: speech habits, and then feed it back to them. And somehow,
Speaker 1: miraculously that is going to uh accrue to your favor
Speaker 1: when it comes time for these people getting to getting
Speaker 1: to vote. Absolutely unbelievable. One of my favorite stories from
Speaker 1: last week was the story of Colonel Stu Powell. And
Speaker 1: I'm not Stu Powell, but Stu Sheller. We had Stuart
Speaker 1: Power Powell on on a little bit earlier, Scott Powell,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but Lieutenant Colonel Stu Sheller. And Stu Sheller
Speaker 1: was one of the guys, or the really the only
Speaker 1: guy who paid a who paid a price for calling
Speaker 1: out the leadership of the United States Marine Corps and
Speaker 1: essentially the military leadership for the withdrawal from Afghanistan, and
Speaker 1: he paid a price for that.
Speaker 2: He wrote a book about it.
Speaker 1: Had a chance to interview him one time, I've met
Speaker 1: him in person, and what he's got his book is
Speaker 1: interesting because his book talks about what's going on in
Speaker 1: the in the military and what really ails the military,
Speaker 1: especially in terms of those in leadership positions. And so
Speaker 1: when you look at his book and when you read
Speaker 1: his book, he talks about how instead of these military
Speaker 1: commanders and these people who are high up the chain
Speaker 1: of command, instead of acting in the interest the best
Speaker 1: interest of those who are under their command, they act
Speaker 1: in the best interest of themselves. And because of the
Speaker 1: way the military has become structured over the last several decades,
Speaker 1: and because of the political environment that was part of
Speaker 1: the Pentagon and part of the command structure, these individuals
Speaker 1: wound up looking up more for themselves than they did
Speaker 1: for those who are under them. And that is the
Speaker 1: exact opposite of the way it's supposed to be. So
Speaker 1: when the time came to put this plan together to
Speaker 1: pull out of Afghanistan, too many of these, and the
Speaker 1: you know, in top leadership positions in the military simply
Speaker 1: stood by and did nothing while this plan and these
Speaker 1: actions played itself out. And Stu Sheller, as you'll remember,
Speaker 1: he probably shouldn't have by the letter of the law,
Speaker 1: by the letter of the Uniform Code of Military Justice,
Speaker 1: he should not have done what he did.
Speaker 2: But he did it in the knowledge, fully aware, in
Speaker 2: the knowledge that.
Speaker 1: By him doing that he would likely face consequences for it.
Speaker 1: And he did face consequence. So he was thrown in
Speaker 1: the brig drummed out of the Marine Corps for publicly
Speaker 1: condemning the chaotic military withdrawal from Afghanistan. Now, almost four
Speaker 1: years later, he is part of the team that is
Speaker 1: investigating the Biden administration's handling of the evacuation that led
Speaker 1: to the deaths of thirteen US troops in the suicide
Speaker 1: attack at the Kabul Airport. Ironic that I will be
Speaker 1: investigating who should be held accountable for Afghanistan, Lieutenant Colonel Seller,
Speaker 1: who was handed a senior role at the Pentagon by
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, said earlier this week. So it's just how
Speaker 1: much Washington has changed since Trump returned to power. It
Speaker 1: marks an extraordinary turnaround for a figure who was relieved
Speaker 1: of command and court martialed after posting a video criticizing
Speaker 1: senior officers on a day a blast ripped through the
Speaker 1: American personnel guarding the evacuation from the Afghan capital. I've
Speaker 1: been fighting for seventeen years, then, commander of the Advanced
Speaker 1: Infantry Infantry Training Battalion, I am willing to throw it
Speaker 1: all away to say to my senior leaders, I demand accountability.
Speaker 1: So again, he knew what he was getting into when
Speaker 1: he did that, He knew what the consequences would be,
Speaker 1: and he did it anyway because because what he thought
Speaker 1: it was the right thing. And now Pete heg Seth
Speaker 1: and Donald Trump has said, you know what we need.
Speaker 1: This guy who had it was intimately familiar with the
Speaker 1: plan and wanted to know why the top military leader
Speaker 1: or top military leaders whom he was under, didn't step
Speaker 1: up and say this is wrong. This cannot happen like this.
Speaker 1: Last month, he announced he had taken up the post
Speaker 1: of the Pentagon Senior Advisor, and Pete Hegseth the military
Speaker 1: is in desperate need of change, and there can be
Speaker 1: no change without disruptors, he said at the time. For
Speaker 1: those who criticizing or criticize wanting stability in the status quo,
Speaker 1: you are the real problem. And look, you know, on
Speaker 1: one hand, you know, these these top military leaders who
Speaker 1: have served the country for many years and worked their
Speaker 1: way up into these top leadership positions. On one hand,
Speaker 1: it's right for them to be concerned about I guess,
Speaker 1: their own personal futures. But when you really look at
Speaker 1: you know, what's necessary for cohesive leadership in the United
Speaker 1: States military. What's really necessary is that you know, they
Speaker 1: look out for those who are under their command. And
Speaker 1: that is really the the way that I guess, in
Speaker 1: a perfect world that these things are supposed to work.
Speaker 1: Stu Scheller said he was the only guy fired for
Speaker 1: telling the truth about what happened in Afghanistan. Biden, president
Speaker 1: at the time, ordered the withdrawal of the last remaining
Speaker 1: American troops from the country in April of twenty one,
Speaker 1: quickly descended into chaos. We all saw the video. We
Speaker 1: know what happened. Afghan government force has melted away as
Speaker 1: our allies left, setting Taliban troops on a helter skelter
Speaker 1: race too Kabul.
Speaker 2: And the rest is history.
Speaker 1: And now Sheller is going to be one of the
Speaker 1: guys who's investigating what's happening. That is, that is ironic,
Speaker 1: it is poetic justice, and it's everything right in the
Speaker 1: in the most important way that it can be right.
Speaker 1: So God blessed Stu Scheller. I'm gonna I'm going to
Speaker 1: work to get him as a guest on the show
Speaker 1: sometime soon, because I would love to hear from him. Yes,
Speaker 1: he gets involved in this investigation to the extent that
Speaker 1: he is able to talk about it. And with all
Speaker 1: these different investigations going on in Washington, I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people like me are feeling like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's one thing to have the investigation, let's have some
Speaker 1: accountability on the other end.
Speaker 2: One fifty five.
Speaker 1: Dan Carolyn for Bill Cunningham, seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 7: Al right back on.
Speaker 2: The big one, seven hundred WLW. It's Memorial Day. I
Speaker 2: hope your weekend is going great.
Speaker 1: And it is my pleasure to welcome in a buddy
Speaker 1: of mine, a guy I've known for a little while.
Speaker 1: And Jim serger Is is a local author, and I mean,
Speaker 1: you talk about a guy, I mean, what a life.
Speaker 1: You know, this guy graduated from UC spend time the Navy,
Speaker 1: backpack through Asia and now he's turned to just writing
Speaker 1: book after book after book. And Jim Sergert is great
Speaker 1: to have you back on the show. How are you, sir?
Speaker 7: Well, Dan, Happy Memorial Day to EW and thanks for
Speaker 7: having me on this beautiful.
Speaker 2: Day that is it is a beautiful day.
Speaker 1: I think we hopefully were turning the corner and it's
Speaker 1: finally going to start feeling like summertime around here. But
Speaker 1: before we get to your new books and the things
Speaker 1: I want to talk about, you wrote a book not
Speaker 1: long ago called Jump, talking about the anniversary of the
Speaker 1: Van Hallen concert that you and your buddies went to
Speaker 1: see here in Cincinnati. I saw video recently of David
Speaker 1: Lee Roth, and David Lee Roth is going back out
Speaker 1: on tour, and he is, and he may have lost
Speaker 1: a little zip on the fastball, if you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I was wondering, are you planning on
Speaker 1: going to see the David Lee Roth tour and maybe
Speaker 1: relive the greats of that Van Hallen concert from nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty four.
Speaker 7: Well, let's say it like this. You'll never be able
Speaker 7: to relive that concert from forty years You can't recreen
Speaker 7: years old, right, thirteen years old. I mean, that's my
Speaker 7: first concert with Eddie and everybody in the Cincinnati Garden.
Speaker 7: Now you go forward forty one years, it's just David
Speaker 7: Lee Ross. Nothing against David le Gross. I think he's
Speaker 7: one of the greatest showmen ever to take center stage
Speaker 7: and rock and roll. But it's just him by himself.
Speaker 7: The band is not together, so the Blues Brothers, it
Speaker 7: would be like the Blues Brothers in reverse. You know,
Speaker 7: the band is broken up. Yeah, but yes, I am
Speaker 7: gonna go. As a matter of fact, that white guy
Speaker 7: just talked about it. Yes, me and a couple another
Speaker 7: couple are gonna go, and we're gonna go down there.
Speaker 2: Does his tour bring him to Cincinnati?
Speaker 7: It does August twenty first. That is a Thursday down
Speaker 7: at hard Rock right there in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: How about that? That is fantastic.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna try to get him some jump books.
Speaker 1: Dan, at least you should get a picture. You should
Speaker 1: get a photo. He's got to be he's got to
Speaker 1: be open to something like that.
Speaker 7: I like that. David Lee Ross. Absolutely.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 1: Then then you let me know how the show is
Speaker 1: and I'll have you on for your review.
Speaker 2: How about that?
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, I'll put it up on yell. But how
Speaker 7: about that?
Speaker 1: You want to hear Jim Segers play by play of
Speaker 1: the David Lee Ross Show that I am.
Speaker 7: Looking forward to it. I mean, everybody ages, but I
Speaker 7: give him credit going back out there. Still bring him
Speaker 7: true to his vocals and everything else. I applaud him.
Speaker 7: Go for it, you know, keep going fun.
Speaker 2: Why not? I mean, it's not like, you know what
Speaker 2: the thing is.
Speaker 1: It's not like he's a guy that ever took himself
Speaker 1: all that seriously to begin with, because you look at
Speaker 1: the stuff he did in his prime. I mean, he
Speaker 1: was just going out there having a good time. And
Speaker 1: the fact that people liked it and he sold thousands
Speaker 1: and thousands of records I think speaks for itself absolutely.
Speaker 7: So Jump was there number one song ever to hit
Speaker 7: number one? As Van Hailing and then Van Hanlin after
Speaker 7: David le Ross left ended up releasing number one albums,
Speaker 7: but they never got a number one saw? How about that?
Speaker 2: How about that? All right?
Speaker 1: So you've you've got a couple of books in the
Speaker 1: queue that are getting ready to come out, and one
Speaker 1: you told me about is another a book about tunnels
Speaker 1: to towers, and uh, this is I guess say, are
Speaker 1: these books follow up to your earlier books about about
Speaker 1: nine to eleven? The first one A Time to Always Remember,
Speaker 1: and then uh, the Time to Remember Bond of Firefighters.
Speaker 1: This this is another follow up in that strain.
Speaker 7: Is that right, yes, sir, it is. This one is
Speaker 7: This one is Salute the Service being Memorial Day. I'll
Speaker 7: share with you first that this is a compile of
Speaker 7: a bunch of military people, active veterans and act military
Speaker 7: that served during nine to eleven or after nine eleven.
Speaker 7: So what I have each individual do is share their
Speaker 7: nine to eleven day and then how that impacted their
Speaker 7: military career post nine to eleven.
Speaker 2: For example, how about that.
Speaker 7: One gentleman that I interviewed thirty deployments over his whole career.
Speaker 7: Fifteen of them happened after nine eleven, and he retired
Speaker 7: about six years ago, so it changed everything full circle.
Speaker 7: So I interview Air Force, Marines, Navy, coast Guards. There's
Speaker 7: folks that dropped everything and went straight over to kreate, Afghanistan, Iraq.
Speaker 7: They're sharing everything. Now, we don't go into grave detail
Speaker 7: because that's not the mission of the book. The mission
Speaker 7: of the book with tunnel to Towers is everybody can
Speaker 7: remember minute by minute, hour by hour, who they spoke
Speaker 7: to on nine to eleven, who they were with on
Speaker 7: nine eleven, and who they shared a conversation with, who
Speaker 7: are they were concerned with, who they reached out with.
Speaker 7: So this is the third book with Tunnels to Towers.
Speaker 7: All the money goes back to Tunnel to Towers. We
Speaker 7: don't make any money off of this book, and it's
Speaker 7: to help gold Star Families, first responders, families, disabled veterans
Speaker 7: And as of today, they have given out over ten
Speaker 7: excuse me, one hundred and thirty mortgage free homes last
Speaker 7: year and they're in the process of opening up their
Speaker 7: fifth homeless village for veterans in the United States. So
Speaker 7: they have Texas, Florida, Michigan, Maryland, and New Jersey as
Speaker 7: we speak.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a terrific, a terrific, unbelievably great organization.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think the first time we spoke
Speaker 1: was when your book came out, your first nine to
Speaker 1: eleven book came out of Time to Always Remember. And
Speaker 1: so now you've done two more in that vein and
Speaker 1: you correct me if I'm wrong, But it seems to
Speaker 1: me that these books, These nine eleven books have really
Speaker 1: come to mean a lot to you, and really, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: to talk about that a.
Speaker 7: Little bit, Yes, sir. While I served in the Navy,
Speaker 7: my father in law was in the Army Vietnam. My
Speaker 7: brother in law a long time ago, he served active
Speaker 7: duty in the Army. My wife's cousin he was Special
Speaker 7: Forces in the Army. So I think that I've always
Speaker 7: been buddies of my dads that were in the military
Speaker 7: growing up in Cincinnati, and it's always been a part
Speaker 7: of my upbringing. I should say that I've always respected
Speaker 7: veterans and I wanted to do something for them, loving
Speaker 7: this country, putting the country first like they always do.
Speaker 7: So I kept seeing the time nine to eleven, which
Speaker 7: correlates with the date nine to eleven, and you're given
Speaker 7: seven hundred and thirty times basically in the year to
Speaker 7: remember nine to eleven. So that includes military, that included
Speaker 7: first and Fondi's cops, what have you. So this book,
Speaker 7: it's amazing. It brings me great pride for this country
Speaker 7: to create this book, just helping out so many of
Speaker 7: that needed. So that's a mission behind the book.
Speaker 2: Dan Carroll Well and I appreciate you talking about that.
Speaker 1: I know another passion in your life is baseball, and
Speaker 1: I know you were at you were a great American
Speaker 1: ballpark for the remembrance of Pete Rose. And I saw
Speaker 1: you took a picture with Dennis Wildman Walker, So I'm
Speaker 1: sorry you had to endure that.
Speaker 7: That's my buddy there, wild Man, that's my buddy. I
Speaker 7: always love seeing him and all the fans. What a
Speaker 7: great night. That was terrific, terrific night. You know, growing
Speaker 7: up in Anderson Township, you know, back in seventy seven,
Speaker 7: seventy six, all I wanted to be was Pete Rose
Speaker 7: and half my sub division one absolutely, so yes, it
Speaker 7: was a terrific night to honor him. It was well
Speaker 7: done by the red I applaud them. So it was
Speaker 7: a great night. And so Louie, baseball is in my boy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had wild Man on the next night after that happened.
Speaker 1: And and I mean, do you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: He'd be hard pressed to find anyone, you know, other
Speaker 1: than you and wild Man who are are more passionate
Speaker 1: about the history of Pete Rose in this town.
Speaker 7: I drug my dad up to Dayton, Ohio. I was
Speaker 7: leaving for the Navy gonna be stationed in Japan, and
Speaker 7: I said, Dad, let's go up to Dayton, Ohio. Pete
Speaker 7: Rose is at a baseball card show. He said, okay,
Speaker 7: let's go. So January like fifteenth, nineteen ninety two, before
Speaker 7: I shipped off overseas, my dad and I went up
Speaker 7: there and it was a short line, moved very very quickly,
Speaker 7: and people, you sign this, and then my dad said, Hey,
Speaker 7: how's your brother Dave doing? And then they kind of
Speaker 7: hit it off, you know, just for a few seconds.
Speaker 7: So that was a good piece of history with my dad.
Speaker 7: Nine on a little road trip. Love road trips with baseball.
Speaker 7: A lot of fun.
Speaker 2: That is fantastic.
Speaker 1: And I know, coming up a little bit later on
Speaker 1: in February next year, you're talking about a book you're
Speaker 1: working on about baseball.
Speaker 2: That is going to be coming up.
Speaker 7: Correct.
Speaker 2: What is a Jim Serger book on baseball going to
Speaker 2: look like?
Speaker 7: Well, I'll tell you what. I've never written a full
Speaker 7: fledged fictional book before. So this is a fictional book
Speaker 7: called Everybody Bunch about a manager who was also a coach.
Speaker 7: And what I mean by that is you got to
Speaker 7: have both. At the high school level, you have to
Speaker 7: be a manager and a coach. You can't have one
Speaker 7: without the other. So I build a fictitious story on
Speaker 7: all the stuff that I had seen. A couple of
Speaker 7: high schools here in town helped me out build the story,
Speaker 7: allow me access to their practices, and I build a
Speaker 7: fictitious story of how you can do that. Just torit
Speaker 7: his memories. My dad played, you know, from University of
Speaker 7: Cincinnati baseball. I played for Midland Chiefs for one year.
Speaker 7: Mylok Rockets for state runner ups in nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 7: So baseball has always been in my blood absolute So
Speaker 7: I thought it would be a great project for me,
Speaker 7: something that is a serious challenge for me to do.
Speaker 7: Putting a lot of quotes in something in commons, I've
Speaker 7: ever done any of that, Dan, I'm only good at referencing.
Speaker 7: So this is a terrific project. I've heard good reviews.
Speaker 7: I've already sent it out to free people. They gave
Speaker 7: me positive reviews on the book. So that book will
Speaker 7: be coming out in February. Right, there's the high school
Speaker 7: season start?
Speaker 2: Is that is fans? Well, congratulations on that.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm looking at the list of books
Speaker 1: as you've written, I mean you're really starting to stack
Speaker 1: them up. I mean, you have been going at this
Speaker 1: for a little while now, and tell you you know,
Speaker 1: I've always been interested about people who were able to
Speaker 1: write books, just about the process and in I find
Speaker 1: that I don't know why, but I find that that
Speaker 1: process compelling. My wife reads a series of books by
Speaker 1: Diana gambled On, and we went up to Canada actually
Speaker 1: and attended an event with her, and she was doing
Speaker 1: some Q and A sessions and we were in one
Speaker 1: of those sessions and I got to ask her about
Speaker 1: the process of writing the book that was. You know,
Speaker 1: that's what I was interested in, you know, about the
Speaker 1: physical process of writing a book. What's that like for you?
Speaker 1: When when Jim Serger decides I'm going to write a book, what,
Speaker 1: you know what, what's kind of like a day in
Speaker 1: the life of Jim Suger, Like when you're involved in that.
Speaker 7: The biggest thing is, I don't proofread it while I'm
Speaker 7: creating it, because my chain of thought will instantly catch
Speaker 7: a word that is misspelled, and then as a writer,
Speaker 7: you want to stop and fix that one misspelled word,
Speaker 7: and then you forgot where your train of thought was
Speaker 7: taking you down or your past was taking you down.
Speaker 7: So my objective is when I write, is I keep
Speaker 7: writing to get in a word count maybe three thousand.
Speaker 7: Maybe I write for two hours straight and I don't
Speaker 7: proof read my book until I'm done writing the book.
Speaker 7: Then I go back and try to catch as many mistakes,
Speaker 7: and then there goes those comments again, Dan, Okay, all right,
Speaker 7: I try to catch as many as I can. I
Speaker 7: will have read the book probably about nine times before
Speaker 7: I turn it over to the editor, and then he
Speaker 7: will take it from there. So the process myself is
Speaker 7: I think where a lot of authors stop is they
Speaker 7: never finish it. Well, it's just a rough draft, that's
Speaker 7: all it is. It's but it's a finished item. It's
Speaker 7: something tangible in your hand that you can say, I
Speaker 7: did it. Now, I got to go on to step two.
Speaker 7: I gotta edit it. Now, I gotta go on to
Speaker 7: step three. I gotta line edit it. I mean, there's
Speaker 7: a lot of steps that followed. But to a new writer,
Speaker 7: finish it. Don't worry about anything. Who cares. You're gonna
Speaker 7: have the spill words, all right, That's just the way
Speaker 7: it's going to go. That's why you have.
Speaker 2: An editor, right, God bless that.
Speaker 1: God bless the editors that I mean, I used to
Speaker 1: I guess I used to do that on a small,
Speaker 1: much smaller scale when I was writing stories for TV
Speaker 1: every night, because you know, you go out, you do
Speaker 1: the interviews and put it together. You write the story
Speaker 1: and then you're going to sit down with a producer
Speaker 1: or a producer is going to look at it, and
Speaker 1: you know you're you've got a minute and a half
Speaker 1: to tell that story and it comes in at two
Speaker 1: and a half minutes. So now you've got to start
Speaker 1: cutting and uh, you know that process. Do you find
Speaker 1: that process hard? To cut out stuff that I do?
Speaker 7: I do because I'll be like, oh, I love this reference,
Speaker 7: and my editor will say, well, that's a really nice story,
Speaker 7: but that has nothing to do with this book. Now,
Speaker 7: really nice that you shared that, but there has nothing
Speaker 7: to do with the story.
Speaker 1: So you could save all those and put those in
Speaker 1: another book, you know, all the stuff, all this stuff,
Speaker 1: it's like all the stuff that wound up on the
Speaker 1: cutting room floor.
Speaker 7: Yes, absolutely, And everybody out there save your ideas. Just
Speaker 7: save ideas, put them in a file camp that you know,
Speaker 7: don't throw them away. If an idea comes to you,
Speaker 7: write it down on an index card on a piece
Speaker 7: paper and state it. Because you wouldn't believe how much
Speaker 7: stuff I have in drawers up theres that I saved,
Speaker 7: just a little miscellaneous stuff you know, you picked up
Speaker 7: at a ball game and a football game and a
Speaker 7: hockey game what have you. And you're like, man, that
Speaker 7: would make for a great story as a reference. So
Speaker 7: I do that all the time.
Speaker 2: That is out that that is fantastic.
Speaker 1: Jim, let me ask you, tell me a little bit
Speaker 1: about Memorial Day. What does what does Memorial Day with
Speaker 1: you know, with your history of service and your and
Speaker 1: your family and and all the rest of it. What
Speaker 1: does Memorial Day at the at the Serger household look like?
Speaker 7: It's a huge thank you to those that have fallen.
Speaker 7: It goes on for years. It's not just one day.
Speaker 7: In the Serger family, I give thank you to all
Speaker 7: of them, all three hundred and sixty five days. We
Speaker 7: can't just pendpoint one day just to say thank you.
Speaker 7: Recognize them instead of flag down. It's got to be tomorrow,
Speaker 7: it's got to be two weeks from the day. We
Speaker 7: got to do it in another month. You've got to
Speaker 7: do in December, you know, recognize the falling. Give salute
Speaker 7: to them, Salute them. I mean Memorial Day. I was
Speaker 7: asking somebody the other day what does Memorial Day mean?
Speaker 7: And they said, well, instantly, I think of half off
Speaker 7: mattress sale. And I said, you know what, as a nation,
Speaker 7: that is true, we were like half off mattresses. Well,
Speaker 7: that's not what Memorial Day is about. Memorial Day is
Speaker 7: about all of those that have gone before us, that
Speaker 7: have served this amazing, beautiful country. I mean, I'm looking
Speaker 7: up right now in this cloud. The sun's coming through.
Speaker 7: I mean, it's Chris, it's clear again. Sweats your mind.
Speaker 7: This is an all American day right now, all Americans,
Speaker 7: and we need to celebrate that and remember to say
Speaker 7: thank those tonight when we cheers our bottles or whatever
Speaker 7: beverage of choice, tell them thank you. You know what
Speaker 7: I mean.
Speaker 1: I think that's a great sentiment, and it's you know,
Speaker 1: I was talking with with Scott Powell a little bit earlier,
Speaker 1: and he was talking about the history of Memorial Day
Speaker 1: and how it started as Decoration Day. And you know,
Speaker 1: it was a group of Confederate women that went out
Speaker 1: to decorate the grave sites of those who had fallen.
Speaker 1: I think he said it was at the Battle of Shiloh.
Speaker 1: But and I was remarking about how it's those simple things.
Speaker 1: It's really the simplest of things, the simplest of gestures
Speaker 1: that wind up having having the greatest meaning. Have you
Speaker 1: found that in life that you know, it's the production.
Speaker 1: It's just every sort of day to day stuff that really.
Speaker 2: Winds up to.
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, I agree with you on that. It's the
Speaker 7: little things. It really is. I mean, they always say,
Speaker 7: don't sweat the small stuff, but it's actually the small
Speaker 7: stuff that creates the big picture that everybody's like, this
Speaker 7: is amazing. So it's always the small stuff that turns
Speaker 7: from a snowball into an avalanche and we're like, oh,
Speaker 7: this is awesome. Yeah, so simple. Let's decorate the tombstones,
Speaker 7: let's decorate the cemetery, let's trim around them, let's cut
Speaker 7: the grass or whatever. Whatever somebody's little part is. It's awesome.
Speaker 7: And I thank them for doing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's a and again, it's not something you
Speaker 1: don't you don't have to wait for, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: a ruling. You don't have to wait for some government
Speaker 1: office to tell you to do it. That that's a
Speaker 1: great thing about being an American is you can step
Speaker 1: up and do these things on your own, and you
Speaker 1: wind up making a difference in someone else's life, and
Speaker 1: you probably wind up making a difference in your own
Speaker 1: life as well.
Speaker 7: Absolutely. One thing is I always say thank you to
Speaker 7: a vet when I see the hat on or the
Speaker 7: shirt on, as a matter what day it is, just
Speaker 7: say thank you, thank you. Maybe strike up a little
Speaker 7: bit of a conversation, you know. Of course, when I'm
Speaker 7: at the VA, I'm always talking to them. One day
Speaker 7: I went down there for half an hour. I ended
Speaker 7: up being out there.
Speaker 2: For four How about that.
Speaker 7: I was talking to Charlie and I was talking to Frank,
Speaker 7: you know, hearing what they had to say. Just awesome
Speaker 7: to be a part of that. It really is, It
Speaker 7: really is.
Speaker 1: Dan Well, Jim Sergan, we we got to run. I
Speaker 1: always appreciate your time and your perspective on life and
Speaker 1: and things and the you know, when when the books
Speaker 1: hit the shelves, we'll have you on again and we'll
Speaker 1: talk about him again, because I think, you know, Tunnel
Speaker 1: is the tower. Tunnel the Towers is just a great cause.
Speaker 1: And I can't thank you enough for spending the time
Speaker 1: and coming on the show as always.
Speaker 7: Well, Jim, sure, I appreciate it, all right.
Speaker 2: You take care of yourself, and I'm sure we'll be
Speaker 2: running into each other. We run into each other all
Speaker 2: the time anyway.
Speaker 7: So yes, sir, we do, we do, all right. All
Speaker 7: the best of you and your yes, sir, the best
Speaker 7: of you as well. Thank you, sir.
Speaker 2: All right, Thanks buddy, we'll talk to you later. There
Speaker 2: you go.
Speaker 1: Jim Serger, and any book by him you want to
Speaker 1: pick up is going to be well worth the time.
Speaker 1: You just google Jim Serger books and you will find
Speaker 1: what's going on there. It's two twenty five. We got
Speaker 1: news coming up to the bottom of the hour, and
Speaker 1: I promised that I would tell my Memorial Day story
Speaker 1: and during the two o'clock hour, and we will do
Speaker 1: that coming up on seven hundred w WELW seven hundred
Speaker 1: WLW two thirty seven, Dan Carroll till three chick what
Speaker 1: comes in after that, and he will get you ready
Speaker 1: for Reds baseball. Tonight's and it's Memorial Day. Pools are open,
Speaker 1: barbecues are going, and we had a great time at
Speaker 1: our swim club last night. I know all the folks
Speaker 1: are there again today. I'll be joining them before too long.
Speaker 1: And it really doesn't feel like pool weather, but that
Speaker 1: didn't stop the kids and some adults who were brave
Speaker 1: enough to jump in that pool.
Speaker 2: Yester that water was cold.
Speaker 1: I stuck my tone in there, and that water was
Speaker 1: as cold as it could be. It is time now too,
Speaker 1: I said, I was going to do this top of
Speaker 1: the two o'clock hour, but I messed up my scheduling
Speaker 1: with Jim Serger and I thought he was going to
Speaker 1: be on at one thirty five. It turned out he
Speaker 1: was on after the news too. So in any case,
Speaker 1: any case, I always like to tell the story that
Speaker 1: affected me many years ago, and this goes back to
Speaker 1: when I was a reporter at Fox nineteen.
Speaker 2: I was working day.
Speaker 1: My photographer Dave Smith, and I went out that day
Speaker 1: to get video and report on the parades and speeches
Speaker 1: and the different Memorial Day observations that were taking place
Speaker 1: around town. So we did a few interviews along the way,
Speaker 1: and we wanted to do more than just your standard
Speaker 1: Memorial Day package, so we talked about it and at
Speaker 1: one point Dave, who, by the way, one of the
Speaker 1: greatest Jeopardy player I ever saw. Dave Smith decided that
Speaker 1: we should go to a VFW hall or an American
Speaker 1: legion and he said, I bet we can find someone there,
Speaker 1: some guys who were there who will talk to us.
Speaker 1: And I said, you know what, that sounds like a
Speaker 1: good idea. Let's do it. So we headed for an
Speaker 1: American Legion hall. We wound up at the American Legion
Speaker 1: Hall in Mount Washington, and this is the mid nineties.
Speaker 1: And so we got there and we are in the
Speaker 1: Legion Hall and as we talked to the men and
Speaker 1: women that we found there, many were happy to speak
Speaker 1: to us in person, but they declined to speak to us.
Speaker 1: You know, we offered them an invitation to speak on camera,
Speaker 1: and they declined to speak to us on camera. These
Speaker 1: were mostly combat veterans with incredible, compelling stories to tell,
Speaker 1: but like so many veterans of the World War Two
Speaker 1: or Korea Korean era, they were reluctant to recount their
Speaker 1: own personal time serving in harm's way, many of them
Speaker 1: telling me that what they did in the war was
Speaker 1: not about them, it was about those who did not
Speaker 1: come home. Compounding all this, it was Memorial Day, a
Speaker 1: day that I came to found out that was a
Speaker 1: day that was not only sacred but deeply personal. For
Speaker 1: these veterans. Every single one of them carried with them
Speaker 1: the horrors of war and the memories of those many
Speaker 1: of their closest friends and fellow soldiers who were fallen
Speaker 1: so many years ago. They think about them every day,
Speaker 1: but on this day those memories come to the surface,
Speaker 1: and the idea that they would go on camera to
Speaker 1: talk to some young TV reporter about those experiences was
Speaker 1: less than appealing. So we heard these sentiments repeated many
Speaker 1: times that day, and it was all very respectful, and
Speaker 1: Dave and I were getting to the point where we
Speaker 1: thought it was best that we thanked them for their
Speaker 1: time and be on our way and move on. So
Speaker 1: it was at this point that we were approached by
Speaker 1: a man who introduced himself to us as Squeaky not
Speaker 1: a very big guy, wearing an army jacket from the
Speaker 1: World War two era. Turned out it was the same
Speaker 1: one he used to wear back in the day, still
Speaker 1: fit him at that time.
Speaker 2: Years later.
Speaker 1: He told us E Tena's talking to his friends at
Speaker 1: the Legion Hall and that he would be willing to
Speaker 1: go on camera to tell his story.
Speaker 2: So we agreed.
Speaker 1: So we found a spot there at the Legion Hall
Speaker 1: that was slightly secluded, set up the camera and some
Speaker 1: very well done lighting. Dave Smith was just exceptional at
Speaker 1: setting up lighting that fit perfectly for this situation, and
Speaker 1: we sat down and before the camera was rolling, we
Speaker 1: started to talk. And over my time at Fox nineteen,
Speaker 1: I reported hundreds of different stories and interviewed countless individuals,
Speaker 1: but none of those ever stuck with me the way
Speaker 1: that my time was. Squeaky has stuck with me, and
Speaker 1: I came to find out they called him squeaky because
Speaker 1: of an injury that he suffered in combat. Piece of
Speaker 1: shrapnel hit him in the throat and damaged his well cars,
Speaker 1: so initially it was thought he told us that he
Speaker 1: may never speak again, but doctors were able to repair
Speaker 1: the damage to a degree, and the surgery leaving him
Speaker 1: with a very high pitched voice, and that is how
Speaker 1: he came to earn the nickname Squeaky because of the
Speaker 1: way his voice sounded. So I asked him if he
Speaker 1: would like us to use his proper name to identify
Speaker 1: him in our report, but he declined that, saying that
Speaker 1: Squeaky was fine because that's how his friends knew him,
Speaker 1: and if they saw Squeaky on TV, they'd know who
Speaker 1: it was, and if he used his real name, they
Speaker 1: might think it was some other guy. So that was
Speaker 1: a little insight into his humor. He said, now, Squeaky's
Speaker 1: good enough. That's how they know me. That's what I'll
Speaker 1: go by in your report. So we said fine. So
Speaker 1: we started to talk on camera, and I asked him
Speaker 1: about the importance of Memorial Day for all of us
Speaker 1: and why this day was so important and so meaningful
Speaker 1: to him, And to this day I have never forgotten
Speaker 1: what he said. On June sixth, nineteen forty four, he
Speaker 1: was a young man on board a navy ship, a
Speaker 1: troop carrier, a troop ship they called it, off the
Speaker 1: coast of France. This was d Day, day one of
Speaker 1: Operation Overlord. That day, he was convinced that he would
Speaker 1: be headed to Normandy Beach alongside one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: six thousand other soldiers as part of the Allied invasion.
Speaker 1: As fate would have it, on that day, he was
Speaker 1: instructed that he would not be going ashore. Instead, his
Speaker 1: duty that day would be to man and maintain the
Speaker 1: cargo netting that his fellow soldiers used to go over
Speaker 1: the side of the ship to the assault craft, the
Speaker 1: landing craft that weighted below. Now, these soldiers were geared
Speaker 1: up with all the equipment they would need for the fighting,
Speaker 1: and so that required them to need assistants to get
Speaker 1: over the rail of the ship and onto the cargo netting.
Speaker 1: This part of the transfer, just getting over the edge,
Speaker 1: had its own set of dangers. And it was during
Speaker 1: this process of assisting these soldiers over the side that
Speaker 1: Squeaky came face to face with so many of the
Speaker 1: men that he knew. Many of them he had served
Speaker 1: with since his first day at basic training, all the
Speaker 1: way up to this day. It was then he told
Speaker 1: me what he remembers when these or what he remembered
Speaker 1: that these men said to him as they went over
Speaker 1: the side of the ship, these young men knowing they
Speaker 1: were headed to hell on earth, knowing that they were
Speaker 1: the first wave, knowing that there was a very good
Speaker 1: chance they were likely to never return, and that this
Speaker 1: day may very well be their last. At this point
Speaker 1: I could see his eyes well up with tears, and
Speaker 1: he looked at me and he said, almost every single
Speaker 1: one of them, the ones I knew, the ones I
Speaker 1: didn't know, As they were going over to meet whatever
Speaker 1: fate awaited them. They looked at him and said, don't
Speaker 1: forget about us, And his reply to them was his
Speaker 1: promise that he would not that he would not forget
Speaker 1: about them. Squeaky never forgot the looks on the faces
Speaker 1: of those young men that he saw that day, and
Speaker 1: two days later, when it was his time to go ashore,
Speaker 1: he learned about how many had fallen on that beach
Speaker 1: and how much had been lost, and the faces and
Speaker 1: the words don't forget about us, they were seered into
Speaker 1: his memory, and his promise to them that he would
Speaker 1: not forget about them became a sacred vow. And so
Speaker 1: that's why this day, Memorial Day, is so meaningful to
Speaker 1: men like Squeaky. Had he not been selected for duty
Speaker 1: of assisting soldiers that day get over the edge of
Speaker 1: the ship, he might very well have been part of
Speaker 1: that first wave, and God only knows what may or
Speaker 1: may not have happened to him on that day. He
Speaker 1: told me he believed that God spared him on that
Speaker 1: day so he could carry the memories of those who
Speaker 1: made the ultimate sacrifice, and so he would never forget
Speaker 1: those who went ashore that day. He felt that God
Speaker 1: had reached down and touched him in a way that
Speaker 1: that was the purpose of his life, was to never
Speaker 1: forget those men and what they did that day. Several
Speaker 1: years ago I learned that Squeaky had passed away, and
Speaker 1: I truly believe that his oath to remember those lost
Speaker 1: in the cause of freedom has been fulfilled, and that
Speaker 1: there is a special place in heaven for the Squeakies
Speaker 1: of this world. And so I decided years ago and
Speaker 1: that as long as I'm able, and if I'm lucky
Speaker 1: enough to be behind this microphone on Memorial Day, I
Speaker 1: am going to tell the story of Squeaky and what
Speaker 1: he said to me that day. I do this with
Speaker 1: respect and in hope that the memories of all of
Speaker 1: those who paid the price for freedom will be honored,
Speaker 1: and that the men who went over the side of
Speaker 1: the ship that day will not be forgotten. And if
Speaker 1: I have anything to say about it, the man I
Speaker 1: met that day, known as Squeaky, he'll never be forgotten either,
Speaker 1: and God bless him. And I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know why it is that particular story that above all
Speaker 1: others that I did well. I was a reporter for
Speaker 1: Fox nineteen has stuck with me more than anything else,
Speaker 1: more than anything else I can remember doing back in
Speaker 1: those days. But Squeaky, God bless you wherever you are,
Speaker 1: and all men and women who serve in the military,
Speaker 1: God bless you, and God bless those who who pay
Speaker 1: the ultimate sacrifice so we can enjoy the freedoms that
Speaker 1: we enjoy. Doug Collins was on Fox News earlier this morning.
Speaker 2: Dave, do we have that audio? Cut number one? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Can we play that audio real quick?
Speaker 7: Here?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: Cut number one Doug Collins, the Secretary of Veterans Affairs.
Speaker 1: Because he summed it up quite nicely, I thought, no, I.
Speaker 6: Did when you think about it until later today, I'll
Speaker 6: be at Arlington, and last night was at the concert.
Speaker 6: When you think about those who gave that ultimate sacrifice,
Speaker 6: when you think about the families who were home, I
Speaker 6: remember being when I was in Iraq and I was
Speaker 6: having to work and we would lose folks in the
Speaker 6: hospital and sending them home. What I was thinking about
Speaker 6: was the families who were now without. So today, on
Speaker 6: this Memorial Day, not only do we remember those who
Speaker 6: gave that last full measure devotion, but remember today as
Speaker 6: you go about life, that there are some who are
Speaker 6: still looking at an empty chair. They're looking at a
Speaker 6: visit or someone that they would pick up the phone
Speaker 6: and talk to.
Speaker 2: That they no longer can.
Speaker 6: It's about those who gave that sacrifice that we remember
Speaker 6: today because our country is built on the shoulders of
Speaker 6: those who gave for us.
Speaker 1: And you can't say it much better than that. Thank
Speaker 1: you for listening. I'm Dan Carrol. Chick Ludwig is up
Speaker 1: next on the Home of the Red seven hundred WLW