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<v Speaker 1>Fun seven hundred WLW twelve oh seven Memorial Day. Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Carroll in for the great American Bill Cunningham. So glad

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<v Speaker 1>to be here. I'm glad you are here as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Big Dave, the broadcast sheriff running things in the seven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred WLW Command Center. Always glad to have him on hand.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a great show I think coming up today.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Powell, we'll be here in a half an hour

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<v Speaker 1>from now. Scott Powell is a great historian, he's a writer,

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<v Speaker 1>he's an entrepreneur, has lived just an unbelievable life. He

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<v Speaker 1>is a great commentator on the passing scene and always

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<v Speaker 1>has the ability, I think, to put into perspective and

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<v Speaker 1>really good perspective, and put into words exactly why days

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<v Speaker 1>like today are so meaningful to all of us as

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<v Speaker 1>individuals and to all of us as a nation. And

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<v Speaker 1>so Scott Powell has joined me on a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different holidays, and I'm glad to have him here. A

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<v Speaker 1>little bit later on today. Evangeline de vol we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>here in the one o'clock hour.

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<v Speaker 2>She is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Tireless advocate for children here in Hamilton County, Ohio and

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<v Speaker 1>the world, and she speaks truth to what is a

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<v Speaker 1>part of the really, I mean really part of the

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<v Speaker 1>darkest underbelly of the United States as it relates to

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<v Speaker 1>children and what happens to children who get trafficked in

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<v Speaker 1>this country and just some of the worst things imaginable

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<v Speaker 1>that happened to children, and her entire life is about

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<v Speaker 1>making sure that those sorts of things don't happen and

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<v Speaker 1>doing what she can to stop those things from happening.

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<v Speaker 1>She is also on the board of a great organization,

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<v Speaker 1>my buddy Dan Varner, who's just a outstanding musician and

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<v Speaker 1>plays a lot of plays, a lot of gigs in

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<v Speaker 1>around the Anderson Township area and really all over the country.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a Nashville recording artist. He has an organization

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<v Speaker 1>called the Varner Foundation for Children and Families, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is an organization that works with foster children. And Evangeline

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<v Speaker 1>Davol is on the board of his organization. And when

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<v Speaker 1>I say tireless, I mean she is tireless because not

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<v Speaker 1>only does she do that, but she does just a

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<v Speaker 1>whole list of other things as well. And that's how

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<v Speaker 1>I met her through my buddy Dan Varner, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate his friendship and Evangeline. I haven't hadn't seen

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<v Speaker 1>her in a while. And Dan Varner had a fundraiser

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<v Speaker 1>event that he invited me to be part of a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago, and that was a great event.

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<v Speaker 1>So Evangeline is going to be on, and then my

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<v Speaker 1>buddy Jim Serger will be here at one thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll talk to Jim. He's got another book coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got actually I think I think he's got two

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<v Speaker 1>books that are getting ready to come out. If I

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<v Speaker 1>read his if I read his message to me correctly.

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<v Speaker 1>You may remember we had Jim on some time ago

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<v Speaker 1>when his book came out about the the when he

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<v Speaker 1>was a young man, a young lad, him and his

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<v Speaker 1>buddy's got to go see David Lee Roth and Eddie

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<v Speaker 1>van Halen and see the band van Halen when they

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<v Speaker 1>played at Gosh. I want to say it was it

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm mistaken on well, I don't have to, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was either. I want to say it was Cincinnati Gardens.

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<v Speaker 1>Might have been the Guards, might have been. It was

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<v Speaker 1>probably the Guards. I'll double check on that. But he

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<v Speaker 1>was so moved by that concert that he wrote a

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<v Speaker 1>book about it, and just a great a great story

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<v Speaker 1>about about youth and the sort of things that impact

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<v Speaker 1>people's lives and the and the pure joy of seeing

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<v Speaker 1>a band like that and a show like that that

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<v Speaker 1>impacted his life in a very positive way. And Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Surer is just an absolute bright light of positivity.

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<v Speaker 2>But today is.

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<v Speaker 1>Memorial Day, and the one thing I always like to

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<v Speaker 1>do on Memorial Day, I'm not going to do it

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I plan to do this at the after

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<v Speaker 1>the news at too, and I'm going to tell the

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<v Speaker 1>story of a gentleman I met many many years ago

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<v Speaker 1>during my days of Fox nineteen. And this individual's name

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<v Speaker 1>he went by the name of Squeaky, and Squeaky told

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<v Speaker 1>me a story, recounted a story that involves D Day

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<v Speaker 1>in his service on D Day that has stuck with

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<v Speaker 1>me all these years. And you know, out of all

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<v Speaker 1>the travels I had when I was in the TV business,

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<v Speaker 1>out of all the interviews I did, all the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all the meetings I covered, all the stories I put forth,

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<v Speaker 1>this one, this one story, this one interview, the words

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<v Speaker 1>he spoke to me stuck with me like none other.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always, if I have the ability, I always

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<v Speaker 1>retell that story on Memorial Day. Because it is just

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<v Speaker 1>it is a Memorial Day story that stuck with me

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<v Speaker 1>through all these years, and I'll be doing that in.

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<v Speaker 2>The two o'clock hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I would like to hear from you, especially, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got guests between now and the end of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>but in the two o'clock hour, I would, I would

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully like to hear from you and maybe recount your

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<v Speaker 1>own stories of someone in your family, a loved one,

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<v Speaker 1>someone who met something to you, someone that you know

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<v Speaker 1>that made the ultimate sacrifice so we can enjoy the

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<v Speaker 1>freedoms that we have. If you would like to relate

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<v Speaker 1>any of those stories, we'll open up the phone lines

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<v Speaker 1>in the two o'clock hour and we'll see, well, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what happens. You never know how those things

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<v Speaker 1>are going to work out, but on this Memorial Day,

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<v Speaker 1>as we sit in for Bill Cunningham, we will see

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<v Speaker 1>how that goes in the two o'clock hour. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a Monday, it is a holiday. I know, student report today,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Dennison enjoying some well deserved time off, So we

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<v Speaker 1>will muddle through on our own without the Stooge report today.

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<v Speaker 1>And I really can't say it. I can't say it

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<v Speaker 1>any better than Richard K.

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<v Speaker 1>As I looked at my social media feed today on

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<v Speaker 1>the X, I saw this posted by Richard K. Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought to myself, you know what, I just

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<v Speaker 1>can't I can't say it any better than this. And

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<v Speaker 1>so these are the words of Richard K. Jones, short

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<v Speaker 1>and sweet about Memorial Day. And Richard K. Jones, the

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff of Butler County, posted this Today we remember and

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<v Speaker 1>honor the brave men and women who made the ultimate

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<v Speaker 1>sacrifice in service to our country. Their courage, dedication, and

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<v Speaker 1>love for our nation will never be forgotten. On this

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<v Speaker 1>Memorial Day, we pause to reflect on their legacy and

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<v Speaker 1>express our deepest gratitude. Let us carry their memory with us,

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<v Speaker 1>just not today, or I'm sorry, not just today, but

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<v Speaker 1>every day. And he posted that along with a photo.

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<v Speaker 2>That is.

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<v Speaker 1>Army soldiers in their battle dressed uniforms and it reads,

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<v Speaker 1>just in case you forgot why you have a three

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<v Speaker 1>day weekend. And so I saw that and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>to myself, you know what, I can't say it better

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<v Speaker 1>than any any better than than Richard Jones did, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm not going to try. Well, what else is

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<v Speaker 1>going on? So that's all the Memorials Day stuff we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have. We hope to have brad brad Winstrop,

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<v Speaker 1>Congressman brad Winstrop on in this first half hour, but

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<v Speaker 1>we have not been able to make our connection with

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<v Speaker 1>the former congressman and current colonel in the United States

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<v Speaker 1>State's Army Reserve. And brad Winstrip Is is a true American,

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<v Speaker 1>American patriot. I think he's an American hero, not only

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<v Speaker 1>for his service in uniform, but his service in Congress

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<v Speaker 1>and what he has done over the years. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen Brad If you've been fortunate enough to uh, to

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<v Speaker 1>see brad winstrip in action when it comes to making

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to putting in perspective, uh the uh what

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<v Speaker 1>it means to honor those who wear the uniform and

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<v Speaker 1>what it means to be in service to this country.

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<v Speaker 1>And this guy has done it in multiple ways by

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<v Speaker 1>being a member of Congress, by wearing the uniform, by

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<v Speaker 1>you know, being the man that he is that does

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<v Speaker 1>what everything he can for his family, the things he

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<v Speaker 1>his country. Brad winstrip is just an outstanding in all

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<v Speaker 1>those areas, so we will continue to try and make

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<v Speaker 1>our connection with him until then, what else the the

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<v Speaker 1>let me get let me I got so many things

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<v Speaker 1>here I want to This was another and one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things I was going to ask Brad Winsor about

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<v Speaker 1>was once we got through all the Memorial Day stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>which was the most important thing was the continued revelations

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<v Speaker 1>that continue to come out about the Biden administration, because

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<v Speaker 1>he saw a lot of it up close and personal

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<v Speaker 1>when he was there in Congress. And one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that among the numerous things that have come out

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Tapper and Thompson I think Alex Thompson, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>the co author on that book. A lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that have come out have been somewhat shocking. But

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<v Speaker 1>this was another very interesting set of circumstances that was

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<v Speaker 1>talked about by Alex Thompson. And Alex Thompson was doing

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<v Speaker 1>was doing an interview talking about the book, and he

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<v Speaker 1>talks about. A long time aide to former President Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden admitted that the White House staff felt justified, justified

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<v Speaker 1>somehow in doing undemocratic things during Biden's term in office

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<v Speaker 1>because they believe that President Donald Trump posed an existential threat.

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<v Speaker 2>To American democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>The revelation came during an appearance by Thomas on the

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<v Speaker 1>Fox New Sunday with Shannon Breen. He talked about insider

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<v Speaker 1>unelected aids saw themselves as the real decision makers.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're in a position of responsibility like that, how

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<v Speaker 1>to that point? Was where you say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>to step in and we're going to make those decisions

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<v Speaker 1>for And I was talking to the former judge Kurt

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<v Speaker 1>Hartman the other night, and I said, if this is true,

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<v Speaker 1>if these people actually did this and use that auto

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<v Speaker 1>pen without his acknowledgment, or without his blessing, or without

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<v Speaker 1>his go ad, I said, is that criminal? And he

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<v Speaker 1>looked at me and he said yeah, he said. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a former judge. He thinks that kind of activity,

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<v Speaker 1>if it happened, is indeed criminal. That these aids, these

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<v Speaker 1>staffers that many of us don't know their names, saw

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<v Speaker 1>themselves as the as more than the gatekeepers, they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>more than just the ones who controlled access to an

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<v Speaker 1>ailing president. They saw themselves as the ones who would

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<v Speaker 1>make the decisions in his stead. If you believe, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of these people do, sincerely believe

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<v Speaker 1>that Trump was an existential threat to democracy. You can

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<v Speaker 1>rationalize anything, including sometimes doing undemocratic things, Thompson said. And

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<v Speaker 1>again he's describing the mindset of these people who worked

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<v Speaker 1>around Joe Biden in the White House. Thompson also cited

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<v Speaker 1>a quote from his reporting in which a long time

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<v Speaker 1>Biden made openly admitted the president just had to win

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<v Speaker 1>and then he could disappear for four years. He only

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<v Speaker 1>had to show proof of life every once in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>The aide told Thompson his aides could pick up the slack.

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<v Speaker 1>The disappointing thing is and look, I have not read

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<v Speaker 1>I do not see myself reading this book. Maybe if

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<v Speaker 1>When you're voting for president, you're voting for the aids

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<v Speaker 2>Is that true?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it does. But yet these are the

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask Brad Weinster was when when you

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<v Speaker 1>hear a revelation like this doesn't that cheapen the office

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, this goes way beyond a media cover up.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember I was talking to ah, my buddy

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<v Speaker 1>Trump derangement syndrome. And you would think that people who

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<v Speaker 1>to look at issues like you know, these these talking points,

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this is a kin to Mark Milli trying

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<v Speaker 1>launches a nuclear war, you know I'll have your back.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be here to you know, to give your heads

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<v Speaker 1>how out of control they were. And I didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>the revelations from this book were going to be that

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<v Speaker 1>most serious ways. And we'll see what happens. Twelve twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>a bottom of the hour. Then we'll be joined by

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<v Speaker 1>on seven hundred WLW. All right back on the big one,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Carolyn for the Great American Bill Cunningham. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of the guests that Bill Cunningham has on quite often,

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<v Speaker 1>Of the Discovery Institute and Scott Powell. Welcome again to

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you, Dan.

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<v Speaker 4>It's great to be with you on this Memorial Day

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<v Speaker 4>and great to be with the audience.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it certainly is.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love having you on on day's like today

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<v Speaker 1>because there are not many who can put into words

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<v Speaker 1>to a fold to us as a nation. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd like you to take a stab at that right now,

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Memorial Day, the importance of this day and

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think it's safe to say that, particularly with

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<v Speaker 4>been through a lot that in some cases people feel that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, their lives, their orientation to their nation has

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<v Speaker 4>blessed nation, but we've been through a lot. Really it's betrayal,

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<v Speaker 4>it's uh, you know, we we've had not only dishonest, dishonesty,

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<v Speaker 4>gross mismanagement, theft, but even things that would border on

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<v Speaker 4>sedition or treason. But with holidays like Memorial Day, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>insturmount are apparently insurmountable problem. You know, most people rightly

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<v Speaker 4>associate Memorial Day with paying homage to those who gave

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<v Speaker 4>their lives for American War. It is one of America's

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<v Speaker 4>equal opportunity, life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness. But the

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<v Speaker 4>of the Civil War. At that time, America was as

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<v Speaker 4>or more divided than it is today. The Civil War

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<v Speaker 4>was a greater cost than all the other all of

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<v Speaker 4>after the Civil War that many thought reconciliation impossible. Yet

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<v Speaker 4>forgiveness began with the humble and virtuous actions from the vanquished,

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<v Speaker 4>that is the South and not the victorious North. So

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<v Speaker 4>and it was on April twenty five, eighteen sixty six,

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<v Speaker 4>that a group of women from Columbus, Mississippi, chose to

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<v Speaker 4>men who died at the Battle of Shiloh. The Battle

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<v Speaker 4>Civil War, and their purpose was simple.

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<v Speaker 3>It was to honor the dead with decorations of flowers.

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<v Speaker 3>At that time, Columbus, like the rest of the South,

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<v Speaker 3>But the Columbus women were a prayerful group and they

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<v Speaker 3>cavalier mass burial treatment of Confederate army fatalities on northern

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<v Speaker 3>in many cases, and so it was that their equal

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<v Speaker 3>for a national reconciliation movement. Can you believe it?

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<v Speaker 4>That simple act by those women was the beginning of

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<v Speaker 3>We honor our women.

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<v Speaker 4>They placed bouquets of flowers on the graves of Union

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<v Speaker 4>and Confederates having inflicted more casualties on the North than

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<v Speaker 4>both sides, the North and the South, were accountable for

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<v Speaker 4>this most costly war. And so so this decoration day

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<v Speaker 4>came to be known as the Day of Reconciliation and

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<v Speaker 4>commemoration to honor those loss while fighting the Civil War,

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<v Speaker 4>but its observance really wasn't very consistent for many years.

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<v Speaker 4>And the contribution by officers and soldiers from the South

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<v Speaker 4>and winning the Spanish American War, this is an incredible story.

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<v Speaker 4>The Southerners still had this spree de corps. They were

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<v Speaker 4>next major war, the Spanish American War, and they wanted

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<v Speaker 4>is that ultimately Reconciliation Day did ultimately become Memorial Day.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there was a recognition that we had subsequent

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<v Speaker 4>holiday paying tribute to all casualties, all that lost their

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Scott Powell, it is it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I I listen to you talk all day and and

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<v Speaker 1>it's so interesting the way you tell these stories and

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<v Speaker 1>you go back to that, to that that first simple

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<v Speaker 1>fallen on both sides, and you think, you think about that,

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<v Speaker 1>at what's happening around the country today, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're starting to slowly get back to that, to realizing

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<v Speaker 1>especially on a daylight today, you know, the laying of

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<v Speaker 1>That is a very simple act that the president does

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<v Speaker 1>every year. When you look at the communities, you know

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<v Speaker 1>there are I think there are around here the Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>and the Tri State area. I think there are more

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<v Speaker 1>Memorial Day events going on today than I can remember

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<v Speaker 1>in past years, whether whether it's a parade or a

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<v Speaker 1>community event, or someone's giving a speech, or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some sort of outreach going on to veterans. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's all kinds of things like that going on.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, these are not grand, giant production things. These

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<v Speaker 1>are simple things that in a lot of cases, it's

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<v Speaker 1>either someone at a legion hall, individuals within their community,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a town council that's deciding to take these small,

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<v Speaker 1>simple steps. But it's those simple things I think that

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<v Speaker 1>wind up having the most meeting. I was talking with

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<v Speaker 1>a guest the other night and we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of saying the Pledge of Allegiance in school.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember when I was a kid that we

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<v Speaker 1>did this, and I went to Catholic school and we

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<v Speaker 1>did this every day. We said the Pledge of Allegiance

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<v Speaker 1>in school and I think for a while, a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>we got away from that sort of thing. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you have just that simple act of standing and addressing

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<v Speaker 1>the flag every day, it instills those values, especially in

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<v Speaker 1>young people, that can last a lifetime and really make a.

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<v Speaker 4>Difference absolutely well, you know, I think it's important for everybody,

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<v Speaker 4>and particularly your audience is probably opened to this message

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<v Speaker 4>more than others. Is that we are in a spiritual battle.

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<v Speaker 4>This battles, you know, has been actually raging since the

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<v Speaker 4>beginning of you know, the bidding of time, as in

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<v Speaker 4>Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, the fall

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<v Speaker 4>of Man, and that introduced you know, division and evil

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<v Speaker 4>into an evil force. And this force has really been

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<v Speaker 4>in ascendance in America because we have abandoned we have

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<v Speaker 4>really abandoned God to a larger extent than ever before.

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<v Speaker 4>We have marginalized Christianity. We have and in so doing,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, God's protective hand, because God protects us through

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<v Speaker 4>spiritual forces, we have lost in some ways that protective

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<v Speaker 4>hand of God. And and and we've seen the results

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<v Speaker 4>of that, I mean, the the level of uncivility, incivility,

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<v Speaker 4>urban chaos, uh has really is unprecedented in America. And

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<v Speaker 4>so I think our real hope is that we see

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<v Speaker 4>a spiritual revival. The spiritual revival will bring about cultural revival,

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<v Speaker 4>and that cultural revival, of course, will bring about a

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<v Speaker 4>greater political alignment, because politics is actually a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people look to politics as solving the problem. No, politics

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<v Speaker 4>is downstream of what people believe of the culture. And

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<v Speaker 4>the culture traditionally has been shaped by the most powerful forces.

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<v Speaker 4>And the most powerful force of all is the force

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<v Speaker 4>of God and God's hand in society. And when we've

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<v Speaker 4>had God's hand in society, things have gone much better

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<v Speaker 4>when we have walked away from God. And this is

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<v Speaker 4>not true just for America. It was true for Israel.

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<v Speaker 4>It is true for you know, it's true for any society,

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<v Speaker 4>but particularly the Judaeo Christian society, because Judaism and Christianity

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<v Speaker 4>is the ultimate truth. I have studied the other religions,

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<v Speaker 4>they do not even hold a candle to the depth

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<v Speaker 4>of truth that is in the Holy scriptures in the Bible.

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<v Speaker 4>The Bible is a user's manual for every possible problem

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<v Speaker 4>you could have in life.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an interesting way to put that.

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<v Speaker 4>It really is. It will help you through every difficulty.

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<v Speaker 4>It will heal your relationships. It will give you hope

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<v Speaker 4>and purpose and oi uh and uh so so is

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<v Speaker 4>so we are agda Christian nation.

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<v Speaker 3>But uh, you know, I think back.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I may have a few years on you, Dan,

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<v Speaker 4>but if I if I think back the way life

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<v Speaker 4>was in the late fifties and early sixties, I would

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<v Speaker 4>not And that's where I was, and suddenly I was

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<v Speaker 4>transported in time to the President America. I wouldn't recognize

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<v Speaker 4>the President of America.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you would have to say, how did we

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<v Speaker 1>get here from from.

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<v Speaker 2>From being being there?

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I think about those things, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just those basic bedrock principles and the simple things that

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<v Speaker 1>make a difference in our lives, and I think about

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get back and have great reliance on those

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of things is not going to be It's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be an easy thing because there's so many

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<v Speaker 1>in this country today who want to uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>who want to look counter you know, or or look

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, look at that and and and think

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, we can't have this sort of thing

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<v Speaker 1>because it's not inclusive enough. It doesn't include everybody. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, when I when I look at

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<v Speaker 1>the something like the Constitution. You know, that's the beauty

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<v Speaker 1>of the Constitution. Rush Limbaugh said. One time, he said

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<v Speaker 1>he asked a caller, he said, do you know what

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<v Speaker 1>the smallest minority in the world is? And the caller

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<v Speaker 1>was dumbfound and you know, they couldn't answer the question.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, the smallest minority is the individual, each individual,

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<v Speaker 1>you and yourself and you there is no one else,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you're a twin, there is no one else

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<v Speaker 1>exactly like you. Therefore you are the smallest. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>the brilliance of the Constitution because it is meant for

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<v Speaker 1>the individual. And therefore, anyone who is lucky enough to

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<v Speaker 1>be an American citizen and you know, subject to this

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<v Speaker 1>jurisdiction thereof the Constitution. You're covered by the Constitution and

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<v Speaker 1>no one no matter who you are or what you

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<v Speaker 1>believe or what you do, you are not excluded from that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think if we you know, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>get away from that. And a lot of people don't

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<v Speaker 1>don't recognize it or look at it like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, the Americans need to be reminded of

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<v Speaker 4>the very blessed position that we hold because we are

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<v Speaker 4>the first, the United States of America is the first

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<v Speaker 4>nation in all of human history that was founded on

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<v Speaker 4>basically two major axioms. Number one, that people had unalienable

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<v Speaker 4>rights to life, to liberty, to the pursuit of happiness.

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<v Speaker 4>And number two, that it was the role of government

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<v Speaker 4>to protect these rights enshrine in the Bill of Rights,

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<v Speaker 4>because there are more rights than just what was articulated

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<v Speaker 4>in the Declaration of Independence. You know, there's a right

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<v Speaker 4>of due process and the right of your privacy being

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<v Speaker 4>honored without you know, either can't the police, can't just

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<v Speaker 4>show up and barge into your house, and a whole

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<v Speaker 4>host of other other rights. But uh, we forget that.

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<v Speaker 4>No other nation had this before, No other nation was

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<v Speaker 4>founded this way. We were founded on ideas. We weren't

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<v Speaker 4>founded on the spoils of war or really one uh

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<v Speaker 4>you know, one culture, one language, one ethnic group. We

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<v Speaker 4>were you know, I mean, we were a multi ethnic

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<v Speaker 4>country from the very beginning. And yes we we Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 4>slavery had crept into America.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't ask for it.

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<v Speaker 4>It came to our shores, if you will, and it

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<v Speaker 4>sort of came in and then it got embedded in

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<v Speaker 4>the agricultural South, which was very labor intensive. But do

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and most people don't know this, and they

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<v Speaker 4>should know it, because there's so much nonsense and disinformation

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<v Speaker 4>about the founding of America that we were founded on

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<v Speaker 4>the basis of slavery totally falls. When the Constitutional Convention

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<v Speaker 4>took place, and you had delegates from the southern states

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<v Speaker 4>and the northern all of the states, all thirteen states,

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<v Speaker 4>with the exception of Rhode Island which did not did participate.

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<v Speaker 4>They did vote for the ultimate ratification. But they knew

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<v Speaker 4>the delegates of the Constitution Convention had one purpose, and

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<v Speaker 4>that was to create a new government. And they knew

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<v Speaker 4>that they couldn't solve the problem of slavery. That would

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<v Speaker 4>be impossible, but they knew it was important, it was

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<v Speaker 4>morally important to make a statement. So an article one,

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<v Speaker 4>section nine of the Constitution there is that that section

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<v Speaker 4>says specifically that all slave trade would cease in the

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<v Speaker 4>United States by eighteen oh seven. By eighteen oh eight,

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<v Speaker 4>there would be no more slave trade. It was a

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<v Speaker 4>twenty year you know, sort of a will allow this

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<v Speaker 4>to go on for twenty more years, but then it stops.

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<v Speaker 4>By law, by constitutional law, slave trade was to stop.

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<v Speaker 4>We were the first nation in human history also to

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<v Speaker 4>outlaw slave trade. We did it before Great Britain did.

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<v Speaker 4>And people don't even know this greatness of America. And yes,

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<v Speaker 4>it wasn't fully realized really until Martin Luther King, who

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<v Speaker 4>really you know, he really delivered on Jefferson's Declaration of

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<v Speaker 4>Independence that all people were created equal. He said that

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<v Speaker 4>in the declaration. Of course it wasn't it wasn't realized.

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<v Speaker 4>But the march of progress, and this is God's hand

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<v Speaker 4>in American history raised up another man, Martin Luther King,

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<v Speaker 4>an imperfect man. Remember, God only has sinners to work through.

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<v Speaker 4>No one's perfect. You know, the great King David Solomon,

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<v Speaker 4>they were all sinners, they all made huge mises, and

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<v Speaker 4>yet God use them. And it's the same for our

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<v Speaker 4>president today. I believe he's not a perfect man, but

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<v Speaker 4>God is using him. But in any case, Martin Luther

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<v Speaker 4>King delivered. He cast a vision that in the future

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<v Speaker 4>he looked forward to a society where his children and

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<v Speaker 4>grandchildren would be evaluated by the content of their character

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<v Speaker 4>and not the color of their skin.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that amazing How many people want to just gloss

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<v Speaker 1>over that and act as if that that is no

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<v Speaker 1>longer the standard that we should abide by it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the point is that we by driving Christianity out

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<v Speaker 4>of our culture, we lost the momentum that Martin Luther

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<v Speaker 4>King established and we've allowed the evil forces to sort

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<v Speaker 4>of dominate the narrative. Critical race theory, diversity, equity. These

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<v Speaker 4>were all derivatives, derivatives of Marxism. Marx was one of

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<v Speaker 4>the most demonic people in human history. Two of his

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<v Speaker 4>daughters committed suicide. He was abusive to his wife. He

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<v Speaker 4>never could pay for any bills. He relied on the

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<v Speaker 4>large ess of Angles and others to bail him out.

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<v Speaker 4>He was an evil man, and he created this ideology

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<v Speaker 4>of Marxism, which is morphed into many different neo Marxist ideologies.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's all nonsense. It's contrary to God.

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<v Speaker 1>We continue to see the results of that today. But

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Powell, our time is gone. As always, my friend,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you being here and uh, I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>have a great rest of your weekend. And thank you, Jill,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for the time. As always, it

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<v Speaker 1>is it is the highlight of my day when I

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<v Speaker 1>get to have you on the show.

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<v Speaker 4>You're you're very kind, man, you're you're you're quite a guy.

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<v Speaker 4>And I say God bless you and your ministry and

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<v Speaker 4>all you all your listeners get you know, dial into

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<v Speaker 4>to Bill Cunningham and Dan Carroll because uh, talk radio

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<v Speaker 4>is not easy and they need they need more listeners

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<v Speaker 4>to drive up those advertising revenues so they can do

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<v Speaker 4>more and more so that so that their reach can

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<v Speaker 4>go further. We've got to turn this country.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the best, You're the best. Thank you, man, have

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<v Speaker 1>our great rest of your day. Okay, thanks, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go, one and only Scott Powell. Look them

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<v Speaker 1>up at the Discovery Institute. You'll be glad you did.

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<v Speaker 1>Twelve fifty five seven hundred WLW. Al right back on

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<v Speaker 1>the big one, seven hundred WLW. It's one o nine

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<v Speaker 1>Memorial Day game. Carroll in for Bill Cunningham. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you're having a great, great day, great three day weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>As we get ready to wrap up the weekend, Reds

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball coming up just after three o'clock. Chick Ludwick is

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<v Speaker 1>going to have the inside pitch for you, and uh, well,

632
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<v Speaker 1>hopefully the Reds will get off that skid they are

633
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<v Speaker 1>on currently. Let's welcome in our next guest. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a woman that I met when I was a couple

635
00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:53.400
<v Speaker 1>of years ago when I was at an event with

636
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:57.599
<v Speaker 1>the Dan Varner Foundation. There was another event a couple

637
00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:01.639
<v Speaker 1>of weekends ago, and and she was a little cross

638
00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:03.519
<v Speaker 1>with me because I had not invited her back on

639
00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the show since then, and so I told her that

640
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I would invite her back, and here she is, and

641
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Evangeline Devaal, it is great to have you back on

642
00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:12.960
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WLW.

643
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:13.480
<v Speaker 2>How are you.

644
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:20.960
<v Speaker 5>I'm well, Dan, how are you well?

645
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I had you on, I had you on for one

646
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:25.000
<v Speaker 1>interview and then and then we never did follow up again.

647
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:28.360
<v Speaker 1>But it's great to have you back on today. Well,

648
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:30.639
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. Let's talk a little bit. I

649
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:33.039
<v Speaker 1>know you've got other foundations that you do work for.

650
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:35.519
<v Speaker 1>I want to get into all that, but we have

651
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:39.519
<v Speaker 1>a just a fantastic event for the Dan Varner Foundation

652
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:43.400
<v Speaker 1>a couple of weekends ago with Belle Tara and I mean.

653
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:44.599
<v Speaker 2>Byron Larkin was there.

654
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I got to hang out with Solomon Willcotts and some

655
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:50.440
<v Speaker 1>other great names from it, especially around the East Side.

656
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:53.440
<v Speaker 1>But talk a little bit about the Varner Foundation and

657
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:55.639
<v Speaker 1>the work that they do and the reason I really

658
00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:59.679
<v Speaker 1>love the Varner Foundation is because every dime, every penny

659
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:02.719
<v Speaker 1>that is donated to the Varner Foundation goes to the

660
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:05.480
<v Speaker 1>mission of helping kids in foster care.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you. No, I would love to tell you about

662
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:13.519
<v Speaker 5>the Varner Foundation, obviously about the event, but can I

663
00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:16.159
<v Speaker 5>just take like a couple of minutes or just one

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<v Speaker 5>minute to talk about Memorial Day from maybe a different person?

665
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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, Thank you. So I grew up overseas because

666
00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:29.360
<v Speaker 5>my dad was with a multi national company and every

667
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<v Speaker 5>my parents were British. Every Memorial Day, it didn't matter

668
00:40:33.320 --> 00:40:37.519
<v Speaker 5>where we were, Hong Kong or Argentina, it just didn't matter.

669
00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:43.119
<v Speaker 5>My dad would invite my mom and dad servicemen that

670
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:45.519
<v Speaker 5>were stationed in that country to come over from a

671
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:49.039
<v Speaker 5>rail day because it was so darn important to him.

672
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:50.360
<v Speaker 6>Dad.

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<v Speaker 5>My dad is a missionary's kid, or was a missionary's kid,

674
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:57.639
<v Speaker 5>and he was born in China and very very young

675
00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:01.079
<v Speaker 5>when or to start it and he and his family

676
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:04.920
<v Speaker 5>will put it put into a Japanese prisoner of war camp.

677
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:09.679
<v Speaker 5>And my father everybody had a job. My dad was

678
00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:13.280
<v Speaker 5>as a kid, small kid, was working in the kitchen

679
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:19.559
<v Speaker 5>and then he got contracted malaria and the Japanese put

680
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:22.960
<v Speaker 5>him in the sewers to work because most people that

681
00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:29.000
<v Speaker 5>contracted Larry didn't didn't survive. Had it not been for

682
00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:33.800
<v Speaker 5>the American forces that broke through the camp and rescued

683
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:37.760
<v Speaker 5>my dad and his family, he came, he went back

684
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:42.599
<v Speaker 5>to England on a hospital ship, my life would be

685
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:46.360
<v Speaker 5>completely different. And my dad, he spent his whole life

686
00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:50.880
<v Speaker 5>being so thankful to the American forces that and they

687
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:53.280
<v Speaker 5>lost from men when it happened that broke through the

688
00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:56.719
<v Speaker 5>camp and rescued him in the same So this means

689
00:41:56.760 --> 00:41:58.679
<v Speaker 5>a lot to me. So I just wanted to share

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00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:00.360
<v Speaker 5>that that's great.

691
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<v Speaker 1>Well, I thank you for that, And I mean the

692
00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:07.400
<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about the importance of Memorial Day and

693
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:10.519
<v Speaker 1>it is it is great to hear that that story,

694
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<v Speaker 1>So I thank.

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00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:11.280
<v Speaker 2>You for that.

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<v Speaker 5>From a little different perspective anyway, the Warner Foundation for

697
00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:21.199
<v Speaker 5>Children and Family, there are five of us that founded

698
00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:23.719
<v Speaker 5>it with Dan, or four of us that founded it

699
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:28.920
<v Speaker 5>with Dan back five years ago, and it mainly came

700
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:31.079
<v Speaker 5>out of the fact that because of the other work

701
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:35.119
<v Speaker 5>that I do, it became very very obvious that I

702
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:37.480
<v Speaker 5>had a lot of children in poverty that I worked

703
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:40.800
<v Speaker 5>with that were taken into foster care or pinship care

704
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:44.159
<v Speaker 5>and then returned in work shape than they'd ever been

705
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:48.199
<v Speaker 5>before they started. And when I started to dig into

706
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:50.199
<v Speaker 5>that and look into it, and Dan and I have

707
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:53.679
<v Speaker 5>been friends ever since you did a fundraiser for my

708
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:59.960
<v Speaker 5>other nonprofit, I found that there was such a huge

709
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:04.280
<v Speaker 5>both is this huge gap in need for fostering parents

710
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.440
<v Speaker 5>and kinship, And that's what kind of got us all started.

711
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:11.400
<v Speaker 5>What's so neat about the Warner Foundation for Children and

712
00:43:11.519 --> 00:43:14.320
<v Speaker 5>Families and that it stands in the resource gap for

713
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:19.639
<v Speaker 5>families that are fostering, whether it's a kinship grandmother, grandfather,

714
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:24.800
<v Speaker 5>uncle and aunt, or a traditional foster family, is that

715
00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:31.679
<v Speaker 5>nobody else does this that we've enabled to find it's

716
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:34.239
<v Speaker 5>and it's one of the reasons that fifty percent of

717
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:37.599
<v Speaker 5>the people that are fostering in the United States will

718
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:40.480
<v Speaker 5>give it up within the first year because they don't

719
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:44.320
<v Speaker 5>feel supported in and they don't have the resources resources

720
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:47.000
<v Speaker 5>that these kidneys that are really out of the box mean.

721
00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:50.039
<v Speaker 5>For instance, one of the things that I talked about

722
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:55.400
<v Speaker 5>at the event was a portable oxygen thanks for a

723
00:43:56.360 --> 00:43:59.480
<v Speaker 5>little person that wasn't even a year old that was

724
00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:02.920
<v Speaker 5>inter care. How that makes such a big difference, and

725
00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:05.800
<v Speaker 5>no place ILSE will pay for this that a care

726
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:09.079
<v Speaker 5>wouldn't pay for Newbity did. So we stand in those

727
00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:11.960
<v Speaker 5>kind of gaps grandparents. I can't tell you how many

728
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:16.679
<v Speaker 5>are cars we fixed or tires because these a lot

729
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:20.199
<v Speaker 5>of these grandparents are on fixed income and they have

730
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:22.360
<v Speaker 5>to take in their kids if they don't want them

731
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:27.639
<v Speaker 5>their regular foster care. And if there's more than two

732
00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:31.519
<v Speaker 5>of them, which often there is, these kids are going

733
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:34.679
<v Speaker 5>to get split up because the system can't handle them

734
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:37.639
<v Speaker 5>all being together. And then on top of that, all

735
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:40.039
<v Speaker 5>the trauma that these kids have gone through some of

736
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:43.920
<v Speaker 5>them is just just horrific and I can't even read

737
00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:47.440
<v Speaker 5>the words sometimes when the branch come in the abuse

738
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:51.119
<v Speaker 5>they had and all the rest of it, and they

739
00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:54.840
<v Speaker 5>need special therapy. They need therapy, to camp, they need

740
00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:58.280
<v Speaker 5>so many other things. Some of them have hearing loss

741
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:01.679
<v Speaker 5>that they've never been addressed. Some of them just just

742
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:06.880
<v Speaker 5>need the whole family needs help. So that's why we're

743
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:11.559
<v Speaker 5>really proud, Dan and I and also Brent Colehath and

744
00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:15.159
<v Speaker 5>Laura Calhoun and Rob Cook. I mean, we're this little

745
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:19.039
<v Speaker 5>trio that go around and try and be the alternative

746
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:23.639
<v Speaker 5>to what's going on right now, and it's unfortunately just

747
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:26.559
<v Speaker 5>getting worse and worse. When we started this five years ago,

748
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:30.280
<v Speaker 5>every two minutes the child was put into foster care.

749
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:32.280
<v Speaker 5>Now it's every minute and a half.

750
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:33.639
<v Speaker 7>Wow. Wow.

751
00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:38.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. And it's thousands and thousands and thousands of these kids.

752
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:41.480
<v Speaker 5>And if we don't get in this to help good

753
00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:46.360
<v Speaker 5>fostering situations, nurture and love of them, care for these kids,

754
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:49.559
<v Speaker 5>then most of these kids, and most of them come

755
00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:54.719
<v Speaker 5>from low income situations, will end up traffic And you know,

756
00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:59.039
<v Speaker 5>I'm all about putting a dent in that Ohio is

757
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:04.320
<v Speaker 5>the third state in the nation percentage wife for the

758
00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:09.320
<v Speaker 5>trafficing case. For facts, and between the fact that the

759
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:14.239
<v Speaker 5>United States as a whole, we are now number one

760
00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:21.559
<v Speaker 5>consumer and number one distributor of child in the whole world.

761
00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:26.039
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm glad you well, Evangelina, I'm glad you brought

762
00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:28.960
<v Speaker 1>that up, because that's why I know you're so passionate

763
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:31.760
<v Speaker 1>about that particular subject. When it comes to child and

764
00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:34.920
<v Speaker 1>child traffick amy, it is absolutely one of the one

765
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:38.360
<v Speaker 1>of the worst stains in the history of this country.

766
00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:40.960
<v Speaker 1>And I wanted to ask you about where are we

767
00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:47.000
<v Speaker 1>on that on battling that scourge right now. I don't

768
00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:49.679
<v Speaker 1>know if if you were shocked by the number that

769
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:53.199
<v Speaker 1>came out when they talked about three hundred thousand plus

770
00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:57.280
<v Speaker 1>migrant children who got into the system under the Biden

771
00:46:57.280 --> 00:47:00.800
<v Speaker 1>administration and then wound up being lost because they didn't

772
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:02.800
<v Speaker 1>follow up on the people who were supposed to be

773
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:05.519
<v Speaker 1>vetted on taking them in and all the rest of it.

774
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:08.639
<v Speaker 1>And I know that has been a priority for Tom

775
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Holman and the Trump administration too, to try and track

776
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:14.880
<v Speaker 1>these kill these children down, find out where they are,

777
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:18.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, and maybe bring to justice those

778
00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:22.880
<v Speaker 1>who are responsible for inflicting this upon these kids. But

779
00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:25.320
<v Speaker 1>where are we on that battle right now? Give me

780
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:27.960
<v Speaker 1>a give me a report. What's the latest do you know

781
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:30.280
<v Speaker 1>on that? And were you shocked by that three hundred

782
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:30.880
<v Speaker 1>thousand number.

783
00:47:32.519 --> 00:47:37.039
<v Speaker 5>I wasn't shocked at all because one of the dating

784
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:39.400
<v Speaker 5>at billi Opia, capital of the United States, and I

785
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:42.840
<v Speaker 5>have a lot of friends that are in police forces

786
00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:47.440
<v Speaker 5>and they're run up and down seventy five and seventy

787
00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:49.880
<v Speaker 5>one and see this every single day.

788
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

789
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:54.079
<v Speaker 5>That when when the border was so open, and this

790
00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:56.920
<v Speaker 5>isn't a political statement at all, but when the border

791
00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:02.280
<v Speaker 5>was so open. The cartels used to together family units,

792
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:05.280
<v Speaker 5>fake family units to be able to travel and get

793
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:09.119
<v Speaker 5>over the quarterer and travel, and most of them headed

794
00:48:09.159 --> 00:48:15.639
<v Speaker 5>towards being forwards Ohio. And because they were carrying over

795
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:18.679
<v Speaker 5>it and point out that's free to go. And so

796
00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:23.280
<v Speaker 5>a lot of these kids, once their usefulness was done,

797
00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:28.079
<v Speaker 5>they were either sold or they were discarded in another way.

798
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:31.639
<v Speaker 5>And that was where I want seventy one and seventy five.

799
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:35.159
<v Speaker 5>I have some friends after one year of running down

800
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:39.079
<v Speaker 5>as that are in the police running down that just

801
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:41.079
<v Speaker 5>gave up. They couldn't do it anymore. It was just

802
00:48:41.119 --> 00:48:45.639
<v Speaker 5>too hard. It was just so hard. And the average

803
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:48.519
<v Speaker 5>age of a child being traffic for sex of eleven,

804
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:54.400
<v Speaker 5>and the average aged age of being able to live

805
00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:57.519
<v Speaker 5>being traffic is only seven years. And then they will

806
00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.840
<v Speaker 5>perish from drug overdos or beatings or something like that.

807
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:04.679
<v Speaker 5>But I think it is getting better in the sense

808
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:07.239
<v Speaker 5>that people now know about it. They didn't really know

809
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:09.960
<v Speaker 5>about it before. They didn't really see what this looks like.

810
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:13.679
<v Speaker 5>And everybody. There's a lot of really good organizations like

811
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:17.719
<v Speaker 5>not for Sale that I'm very passionate about, that are

812
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:20.239
<v Speaker 5>really trying to get out there and do it. One

813
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:23.400
<v Speaker 5>of the biggest problems, and I hate this whole conversation

814
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:26.320
<v Speaker 5>be so negative, but one of the biggest problems is

815
00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:29.880
<v Speaker 5>you have children that don't speak English, don't know where

816
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:32.360
<v Speaker 5>they came from, someone as young that don't even know

817
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:36.679
<v Speaker 5>their name, and here you have the wonderful carrying American

818
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:39.760
<v Speaker 5>authorities trying to figure it out. What do you do

819
00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:41.559
<v Speaker 5>with a child when you don't know what You can't

820
00:49:41.679 --> 00:49:43.679
<v Speaker 5>send them back because you don't know where they came from,

821
00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:48.199
<v Speaker 5>so they're trying to find placements for that. And then

822
00:49:48.559 --> 00:49:52.239
<v Speaker 5>not only is the language barrier, but the trauma these

823
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:55.960
<v Speaker 5>kids have been true, your brain never forgets, the trauma

824
00:49:56.079 --> 00:49:58.559
<v Speaker 5>never does. And they have behavior problems and may not

825
00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:02.599
<v Speaker 5>even some of them are so to traumatize or become

826
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:07.760
<v Speaker 5>non verbal. So there's there's so many layers to what

827
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:10.440
<v Speaker 5>these kids are going through and we just and they

828
00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:13.679
<v Speaker 5>didn't get to choose this, They didn't get to have

829
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:17.039
<v Speaker 5>any say and everything they're happening to them. And if

830
00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:20.840
<v Speaker 5>anything I could get across today, it would be we need,

831
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:23.480
<v Speaker 5>we need to be their voice because they don't have

832
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:28.519
<v Speaker 5>a voice, They're invisible and unless they speak up loudly,

833
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:34.119
<v Speaker 5>what do we do with that, I mean, and it

834
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:36.760
<v Speaker 5>takes all of us to figure it out, not everybody

835
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:39.840
<v Speaker 5>to do what I do, but at least talk about it,

836
00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:44.079
<v Speaker 5>at least at least be aware of it. Well if

837
00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:47.280
<v Speaker 5>you're a senator, right, it's Congress and something.

838
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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, And that's one of the reasons I wanted

839
00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:51.199
<v Speaker 1>to have you on, because I think it's important that,

840
00:50:51.719 --> 00:50:54.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, we bring awareness to this subject, even though

841
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:57.719
<v Speaker 1>it is so negative and and it's it's just horrible

842
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<v Speaker 1>to hear about these sorts of uh, you know, the

843
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:04.760
<v Speaker 1>sort of faith that befalls these little kids and evangelin

844
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:06.480
<v Speaker 1>We've only got a couple of minutes left here. But

845
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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about this while you were talking, and

846
00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:12.199
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about have you been able to figure

847
00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:15.159
<v Speaker 1>out or have you even tried to figure out.

848
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:15.639
<v Speaker 2>Why is it?

849
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:19.440
<v Speaker 1>What is it about Ohio that makes it so attractive

850
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:22.400
<v Speaker 1>to people who engage in this sort of activity.

851
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<v Speaker 5>But I think part of the reason, because yeah, I

852
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:31.199
<v Speaker 5>think part of the reason is because of Dayton. Dayton is,

853
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:36.280
<v Speaker 5>as I said, it's still considered, if not the number

854
00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:39.480
<v Speaker 5>of the capital of Opius here in the United States,

855
00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:42.679
<v Speaker 5>there still is one. A lot of drugs are going

856
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:46.960
<v Speaker 5>through going to Dayton. And if they do go through Dayton,

857
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:50.440
<v Speaker 5>Dayton is a beautiful place, but they're going to go

858
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:54.079
<v Speaker 5>up seventy five and seventy one, go from top to bottom.

859
00:51:54.920 --> 00:51:59.280
<v Speaker 5>It's easy, accent, and it's just it's a straight shot,

860
00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:01.719
<v Speaker 5>and so it's easy, and a lot of them will

861
00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:04.880
<v Speaker 5>continue to go up into Canada. So I think that's

862
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:05.800
<v Speaker 5>I don't.

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00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:06.199
<v Speaker 7>I don't.

864
00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:09.559
<v Speaker 5>I think that's a guess on my part. And once

865
00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:12.519
<v Speaker 5>it has to be so heavily involved in it is

866
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:16.199
<v Speaker 5>us so But other than that, I really don't know.

867
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:20.519
<v Speaker 5>But I do want to say I do want to

868
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:26.679
<v Speaker 5>say that again, kind of hearkening back into my Memorial

869
00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:35.639
<v Speaker 5>Day story. I as Americans, we can fix anything that

870
00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:38.800
<v Speaker 5>we want to say we can. We can rise up

871
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:41.199
<v Speaker 5>and do whatever we want to do. And right now

872
00:52:41.320 --> 00:52:44.719
<v Speaker 5>this is our crisis. Are these kids with and and

873
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:46.800
<v Speaker 5>some of the things that are having these kids to

874
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:49.760
<v Speaker 5>put them into foster care and teamship care, the abuse

875
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:51.840
<v Speaker 5>they go through and all the rest of it. And

876
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:54.679
<v Speaker 5>we don't have to be this way. We when we

877
00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:58.719
<v Speaker 5>make up our minds, damn it, we do it. But

878
00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:01.360
<v Speaker 5>it's it's gonna take all of us to do it.

879
00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:05.599
<v Speaker 5>And and kind of concentrate especially children. Children just don't

880
00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:08.840
<v Speaker 5>have a voice, and they don't they can't speak for themselves,

881
00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:12.440
<v Speaker 5>so they're dependent on speaking for us or for us

882
00:53:12.519 --> 00:53:13.400
<v Speaker 5>to speak for them.

883
00:53:14.239 --> 00:53:17.719
<v Speaker 1>So well, Evangeline in a in a in the l

884
00:53:17.880 --> 00:53:20.079
<v Speaker 1>the last forty five seconds we have here, did I

885
00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:22.039
<v Speaker 1>see on your Facebook page that you have an event

886
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:23.400
<v Speaker 1>coming up on June the second?

887
00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Did I say that?

888
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:30.440
<v Speaker 5>I am? Oh, yeah, that's I am. That's great. I

889
00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:33.880
<v Speaker 5>am stepping after ten years I was. I was the

890
00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:38.719
<v Speaker 5>founder and executive of Next Community Line Center, which is yeah,

891
00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:42.880
<v Speaker 5>and I'm stepping stepping down from that as being the ED.

892
00:53:43.639 --> 00:53:46.320
<v Speaker 5>I'm still going to be the ED at the Varner Foundation,

893
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:50.400
<v Speaker 5>but I feel very strongly that doors are opening for

894
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:56.159
<v Speaker 5>me to speak and read, uh I'm sorry, speak and

895
00:53:56.400 --> 00:54:01.920
<v Speaker 5>write and teach about kids just like the ones that

896
00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:05.719
<v Speaker 5>we talked about, as well as neurodivergent kids and how

897
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:10.199
<v Speaker 5>they're struggling with education and kids are what I live

898
00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:13.679
<v Speaker 5>and breathe all day long, and so that's where I'm

899
00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:18.960
<v Speaker 5>headed that. So if anybody ever needs a speaker for

900
00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:23.960
<v Speaker 5>something on a ton of different topics when it comes

901
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:26.079
<v Speaker 5>to children, I hope that they'll reach out to me.

902
00:54:26.159 --> 00:54:28.920
<v Speaker 5>They can find me at E DE all E B

903
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:34.159
<v Speaker 5>E C O l SO atmail dot com. Right, and

904
00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:36.360
<v Speaker 5>thank you so very much for taking the time to

905
00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:36.880
<v Speaker 5>talk to me.

906
00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:39.679
<v Speaker 1>Well, Evangeline, I promise, I promise I won't wait so

907
00:54:39.800 --> 00:54:40.880
<v Speaker 1>long to have you on again.

908
00:54:41.039 --> 00:54:41.599
<v Speaker 2>I promise.

909
00:54:41.639 --> 00:54:44.880
<v Speaker 5>Okay, please do.

910
00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Please do ye you've got you got my number, you

911
00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:51.480
<v Speaker 1>can you hold me to it? Okay, all right, evangel.

912
00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:53.519
<v Speaker 5>And thank you for all your support.

913
00:54:53.880 --> 00:54:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Evangeline. Have a great rest of your weekend. And

914
00:54:57.039 --> 00:55:00.239
<v Speaker 1>thank you very much, Evangeline. Deal and you can if

915
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:01.920
<v Speaker 1>you didn't get all that, you can just go to

916
00:55:01.960 --> 00:55:04.320
<v Speaker 1>the Varner Foundation and you can look her up through

917
00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:06.800
<v Speaker 1>there as well. One twenty five Dan Carroll in for

918
00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:32.519
<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham on seven hundred WLW seven hundred WLW one

919
00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:35.960
<v Speaker 1>thirty six Memorial Day, Dan Carroll in for Bill Cunningham,

920
00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:38.800
<v Speaker 1>and we are rolling on till three o'clock this afternoon.

921
00:55:38.840 --> 00:55:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Reds Baseball coming up at I think what's first pitch,

922
00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:45.559
<v Speaker 1>Dave was the four h five first pitch four ten,

923
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:49.360
<v Speaker 1>something like that, But Chick Ludwig, we'll be here at

924
00:55:49.719 --> 00:55:52.480
<v Speaker 1>three ten with the inside pitch and then we'll have

925
00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:55.559
<v Speaker 1>some Reds baseball. I believe they are in Kansas City

926
00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:58.440
<v Speaker 1>and they got to do better than what they did

927
00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:00.760
<v Speaker 1>with the three games with the against the Cubs. Trying

928
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:03.519
<v Speaker 1>to reach out to our buddy Jim Serger. Jim Serger,

929
00:56:03.599 --> 00:56:07.039
<v Speaker 1>local author, has written all kinds of books. We were

930
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:09.960
<v Speaker 1>talking to him last time about his book that came

931
00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:14.519
<v Speaker 1>out called Jump the fortieth anniversary of attending the nineteen

932
00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:16.519
<v Speaker 1>eighty four Van Handling concert. He's got a couple of

933
00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:19.440
<v Speaker 1>more books that are getting ready to come out, and

934
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:22.360
<v Speaker 1>we will talk to him about that as soon as

935
00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:26.400
<v Speaker 1>we can make the connection. So we are this is

936
00:56:26.400 --> 00:56:30.480
<v Speaker 1>the way it goes sometimes when we have guests coming

937
00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:32.880
<v Speaker 1>up on the show. But we'll try and reach out

938
00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:35.159
<v Speaker 1>to him and see if we can't get to him

939
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:40.599
<v Speaker 1>before too long. In other news and other stories going on,

940
00:56:41.480 --> 00:56:48.639
<v Speaker 1>the Democrats have an interesting proposal. They need to somehow

941
00:56:48.719 --> 00:56:53.840
<v Speaker 1>reconnect with mail voters. Democrats strategists are struggling to come

942
00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:59.000
<v Speaker 1>up with Donald Trump's decisive right word shift in the electorate.

943
00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:02.480
<v Speaker 1>So they look at the people who are voting and

944
00:57:02.760 --> 00:57:07.199
<v Speaker 1>they see how their message is being rejected. But instead

945
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:13.280
<v Speaker 1>of coming up with a message that resonates with voters,

946
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:17.639
<v Speaker 1>say I don't know, a message of maybe truth, a

947
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:21.960
<v Speaker 1>message of maybe, you know, getting away from all this

948
00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:28.039
<v Speaker 1>DEI and transgender nuttiness. No, they need to spend a

949
00:57:28.039 --> 00:57:32.599
<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of money and talk with consultants and figuring out,

950
00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:36.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, why people aren't voting for them. The New

951
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:39.559
<v Speaker 1>York Times published the first installment of a deep dive

952
00:57:39.639 --> 00:57:44.519
<v Speaker 1>into the Democrats' efforts to figure out and correct what

953
00:57:44.679 --> 00:57:48.719
<v Speaker 1>went wrong in the election. The report describes it as

954
00:57:48.760 --> 00:57:53.000
<v Speaker 1>a defeat that felt like both a political and cultural rejection.

955
00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:57.119
<v Speaker 1>You don't say. Among the democrats problems how to reach

956
00:57:57.199 --> 00:58:04.639
<v Speaker 1>young men. Reporter Shane Goldmacher reported on a proposed twenty

957
00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:11.199
<v Speaker 1>million dollar study that would study the syntax, the language

958
00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:16.159
<v Speaker 1>that would that is attractive to young men.

959
00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:18.960
<v Speaker 2>So there go.

960
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:27.559
<v Speaker 1>Their idea is to go out find out how young

961
00:58:27.559 --> 00:58:32.079
<v Speaker 1>men talk to each other and then somehow ure I

962
00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:33.639
<v Speaker 1>don't know if they're going to do this through AI.

963
00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they're going to, you know, put

964
00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:39.840
<v Speaker 1>out a bunch of commercials with you know, whatever language

965
00:58:39.880 --> 00:58:43.199
<v Speaker 1>they figure is hip and understandable to people of that

966
00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:47.760
<v Speaker 1>age group. But somehow this is going to cost twenty

967
00:58:47.800 --> 00:58:52.840
<v Speaker 1>million bucks. The Democrat donors and strategists have been gathering

968
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:56.159
<v Speaker 1>at luxury hotels to talk about how to win back

969
00:58:56.199 --> 00:58:59.800
<v Speaker 1>the working class voters. All right, let's let let's break

970
00:58:59.800 --> 00:59:04.280
<v Speaker 1>that sentence down. They've been gathering at luxury hotels to

971
00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:06.599
<v Speaker 1>discuss out of impact.

972
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<v Speaker 2>Working class voters.

973
00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Maybe not gathering at luxury hotels might be something that

974
00:59:13.400 --> 00:59:17.599
<v Speaker 1>you would think about. Let's see, they've come up with

975
00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:23.599
<v Speaker 1>new projects that read like anthropological studies of people from

976
00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:25.159
<v Speaker 1>far away places.

977
00:59:26.239 --> 00:59:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Let's see.

978
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<v Speaker 1>They say the effort attained obtained by The Times aims

979
00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:35.599
<v Speaker 1>to reverse the erosion of Democrats support among young men,

980
00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:40.639
<v Speaker 1>especially online. It's code named SAM, short for Speaking with

981
00:59:40.760 --> 00:59:46.199
<v Speaker 1>American Men. SAM a strategic plan to study the syntax,

982
00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:51.719
<v Speaker 1>the language and content that gains attention and virtually or

983
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:56.920
<v Speaker 1>a virally in all these spaces recommended buying advertisements and

984
00:59:57.000 --> 01:00:01.960
<v Speaker 1>video games, among other things. So instead of you know,

985
01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:08.440
<v Speaker 1>being being positive about the message that you have, right,

986
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:10.559
<v Speaker 1>instead of going out there and saying, hey, this is

987
01:00:10.599 --> 01:00:14.239
<v Speaker 1>what we stand for, this is what we think is important.

988
01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:18.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, this is what is going to move America forward.

989
01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:22.119
<v Speaker 1>This is I don't want to use, you know, a phrase,

990
01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:23.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, make America great again. But this is a

991
01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:27.320
<v Speaker 1>this is a plan that is going to make America great.

992
01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:31.480
<v Speaker 2>This Instead of.

993
01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Doing that, now they've got to go out and try

994
01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:37.320
<v Speaker 1>and bamboozle you. They've got to go out and try

995
01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:41.599
<v Speaker 1>and you know, through smoke and mirrors, somehow make that

996
01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:45.559
<v Speaker 1>make that connection that is going to serve the you

997
01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:48.360
<v Speaker 1>know not they don't talk about serving the American people. Well,

998
01:00:48.400 --> 01:00:52.519
<v Speaker 1>they talk about serving themselves. Well, they talk about, you know,

999
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:55.360
<v Speaker 1>what is going to make us popular against what is

1000
01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:59.559
<v Speaker 1>going to make people vote for us? Instead of having

1001
01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:06.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, solid ideas, how to put more money in

1002
01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:10.519
<v Speaker 1>people's paychecks, how to get government off your back, how

1003
01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:14.400
<v Speaker 1>to make government more responsive to things that need to

1004
01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:18.239
<v Speaker 1>be done, instead of looking at stuff like that. Now,

1005
01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:22.280
<v Speaker 1>got to have these consultants look at what they're saying

1006
01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:26.360
<v Speaker 1>to each other on the video games. Right, where do

1007
01:01:26.400 --> 01:01:29.519
<v Speaker 1>they want to hang out. Let's go in there and

1008
01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:33.400
<v Speaker 1>create some kind of program that's going to get them

1009
01:01:33.400 --> 01:01:35.239
<v Speaker 1>to vote for us. Is that really what's going to

1010
01:01:36.360 --> 01:01:41.079
<v Speaker 1>attract people to vote for Democrats? And who really votes

1011
01:01:41.119 --> 01:01:43.199
<v Speaker 1>for a political party anymore?

1012
01:01:43.239 --> 01:01:43.599
<v Speaker 2>Anyway?

1013
01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:47.519
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, maybe I'm wrong about this, but

1014
01:01:47.559 --> 01:01:51.119
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, there are some generations that are

1015
01:01:51.119 --> 01:01:56.000
<v Speaker 1>older than I am that, and I think to some

1016
01:01:56.079 --> 01:01:59.159
<v Speaker 1>extent it's it's probably true that people there are some

1017
01:01:59.199 --> 01:02:03.760
<v Speaker 1>people who will vote for Democrats just because that's who

1018
01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:07.840
<v Speaker 1>they've always voted for. But I think, at least I

1019
01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:12.639
<v Speaker 1>hope that in the world we live in today, with

1020
01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:16.079
<v Speaker 1>the availability of all the information that's out there, you know,

1021
01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:21.800
<v Speaker 1>all the stuff on the internet, everything you can possibly read,

1022
01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:25.039
<v Speaker 1>and all the rest of it, that you judge candidates

1023
01:02:25.119 --> 01:02:34.000
<v Speaker 1>individually instead of by whatever political party they represent. I

1024
01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:38.639
<v Speaker 1>would like to think that's true. I really I can't

1025
01:02:38.679 --> 01:02:43.519
<v Speaker 1>think of I can't think of anyone I know who

1026
01:02:43.559 --> 01:02:45.840
<v Speaker 1>goes out and I certainly don't. I don't vote for

1027
01:02:46.960 --> 01:02:52.039
<v Speaker 1>Republicans just because they're with the Republican Party. That is,

1028
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:56.199
<v Speaker 1>to me, that is as stupid as saying that, you know,

1029
01:02:56.280 --> 01:02:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to hire someone because they're a woman, or

1030
01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:01.119
<v Speaker 1>I want to hire someone because they're black, or I

1031
01:03:01.159 --> 01:03:06.559
<v Speaker 1>want to hire someone because they're a minority. I think

1032
01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:12.360
<v Speaker 1>that's a that's just ridiculous. You know, I think you

1033
01:03:12.400 --> 01:03:16.320
<v Speaker 1>can speak in generalities. Obviously, you know what the you

1034
01:03:16.360 --> 01:03:18.920
<v Speaker 1>know what the how the Republicans differ from the Democrats,

1035
01:03:18.960 --> 01:03:24.320
<v Speaker 1>the two political parties differ from each other. But think

1036
01:03:24.360 --> 01:03:28.159
<v Speaker 1>about that in a practical way. How do you go out,

1037
01:03:28.199 --> 01:03:31.159
<v Speaker 1>how do you commission a study that's going to cost

1038
01:03:31.239 --> 01:03:35.320
<v Speaker 1>twenty million dollars to go out and look at young

1039
01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:37.960
<v Speaker 1>people and what they're saying on video games and how

1040
01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:40.079
<v Speaker 1>they're you know, maybe look at their chats and all

1041
01:03:40.079 --> 01:03:41.400
<v Speaker 1>the rest of them. I mean, we know that this

1042
01:03:41.519 --> 01:03:48.159
<v Speaker 1>administration was busy before trying to crack down on freedom

1043
01:03:48.199 --> 01:03:52.519
<v Speaker 1>of speech, especially speech that they didn't like, whether it

1044
01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:57.719
<v Speaker 1>was political speech. And it started with the notion that

1045
01:03:58.320 --> 01:04:01.519
<v Speaker 1>people were putting out things that were a different than

1046
01:04:01.519 --> 01:04:04.800
<v Speaker 1>what the administration was saying when it came to the

1047
01:04:04.840 --> 01:04:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Wuhan virus, if they if the administration didn't like. I

1048
01:04:09.559 --> 01:04:15.480
<v Speaker 1>was talking to doctor Brian C. June Deaf on my

1049
01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:20.639
<v Speaker 1>show on Well it was Saturday night. I had him

1050
01:04:20.679 --> 01:04:24.039
<v Speaker 1>on and he was talking about how he was attacked

1051
01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:28.159
<v Speaker 1>because in the early days of the Wuhan virus, he

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<v Speaker 1>came out and he dared to point out some things

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01:04:31.079 --> 01:04:35.440
<v Speaker 1>that he thought the government was doing wrong, especially as

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01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:39.039
<v Speaker 1>it related to the you know, once the Biden administration.

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01:04:38.599 --> 01:04:40.719
<v Speaker 2>Got in trouble or got into power.

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01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:44.119
<v Speaker 1>And what they were doing wrong about the vaccine and

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01:04:44.199 --> 01:04:46.840
<v Speaker 1>how you know that certain doctors had to be shut

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01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:53.159
<v Speaker 1>up because they didn't agree with the limitations on the

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01:04:53.199 --> 01:04:58.039
<v Speaker 1>treatments that individuals could receive. And so he talked about

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01:04:58.079 --> 01:05:01.559
<v Speaker 1>how his license was threatened. This is what the previous

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01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:06.599
<v Speaker 1>administration did. So when it comes to cracking down on

1062
01:05:06.679 --> 01:05:09.119
<v Speaker 1>freedom of speech, well, you know, they're old hands at

1063
01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:12.880
<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing. And now the idea that they

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01:05:12.920 --> 01:05:17.559
<v Speaker 1>want to monitor the speech of young people and try

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01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:21.519
<v Speaker 1>to I guess, mimic that or copy that or feed

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01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:26.800
<v Speaker 1>it back to them in a certain way, and that

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01:05:28.039 --> 01:05:33.360
<v Speaker 1>by doing that and creating commercials or you know, something

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01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:38.320
<v Speaker 1>that these individuals will see online is going to encourage

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01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:40.960
<v Speaker 1>them to vote Democrat when it comes time for them

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<v Speaker 1>to vote.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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01:05:45.280 --> 01:05:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I look at that plan and I just hope there's

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<v Speaker 1>someone in the room who's smart enough to stand up

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01:05:51.159 --> 01:05:54.719
<v Speaker 1>to that plan and say, you know, what are we

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01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:58.400
<v Speaker 1>doing here? Hey, how is it that you think it's

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01:05:58.440 --> 01:06:00.800
<v Speaker 1>a good idea to spend twenty million dollars doing something

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01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:01.159
<v Speaker 1>like that?

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01:06:03.159 --> 01:06:05.079
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, I don't know where.

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<v Speaker 1>And especially not only do they come up with a

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01:06:08.039 --> 01:06:10.000
<v Speaker 1>plan like that, but they let you know, they let

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01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:15.079
<v Speaker 1>the details of that plan get out and so don't

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01:06:15.079 --> 01:06:16.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't don't you know if you're one of these

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01:06:16.880 --> 01:06:18.480
<v Speaker 1>individual you know they're not going to target They're not

1084
01:06:18.480 --> 01:06:22.360
<v Speaker 1>talking about targeting guys like me. They're talking talking about

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01:06:22.360 --> 01:06:26.480
<v Speaker 1>targeting guys like my son and uh and and probably

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01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:28.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of you listening now have kids that age

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01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:32.239
<v Speaker 1>as well, especially you know, the the you know, I

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01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:35.079
<v Speaker 1>guess they're not that worried about women, because when I'm

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01:06:35.119 --> 01:06:38.519
<v Speaker 1>reading here, doesn't talk about how they're concerned about women

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01:06:38.599 --> 01:06:42.920
<v Speaker 1>voting Democrats. And you got to get those guys, got

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01:06:42.920 --> 01:06:45.960
<v Speaker 1>to find out, you know, study their language, study their

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01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:49.039
<v Speaker 1>speech habits, and then feed it back to them. And somehow,

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01:06:49.079 --> 01:06:54.320
<v Speaker 1>miraculously that is going to uh accrue to your favor

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01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:57.599
<v Speaker 1>when it comes time for these people getting to getting

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01:06:57.639 --> 01:07:03.320
<v Speaker 1>to vote. Absolutely unbelievable. One of my favorite stories from

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01:07:03.519 --> 01:07:10.679
<v Speaker 1>last week was the story of Colonel Stu Powell. And

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01:07:11.119 --> 01:07:14.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not Stu Powell, but Stu Sheller. We had Stuart

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01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Power Powell on on a little bit earlier, Scott Powell,

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01:07:18.280 --> 01:07:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, but Lieutenant Colonel Stu Sheller. And Stu Sheller

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01:07:23.119 --> 01:07:26.880
<v Speaker 1>was one of the guys, or the really the only

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01:07:26.960 --> 01:07:34.079
<v Speaker 1>guy who paid a who paid a price for calling

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01:07:34.119 --> 01:07:37.199
<v Speaker 1>out the leadership of the United States Marine Corps and

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01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:43.559
<v Speaker 1>essentially the military leadership for the withdrawal from Afghanistan, and

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01:07:43.599 --> 01:07:44.599
<v Speaker 1>he paid a price for that.

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01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:46.760
<v Speaker 2>He wrote a book about it.

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01:07:46.920 --> 01:07:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Had a chance to interview him one time, I've met

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01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:53.320
<v Speaker 1>him in person, and what he's got his book is

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01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:59.280
<v Speaker 1>interesting because his book talks about what's going on in

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01:07:59.320 --> 01:08:02.800
<v Speaker 1>the in the military and what really ails the military,

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01:08:02.920 --> 01:08:08.280
<v Speaker 1>especially in terms of those in leadership positions. And so

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01:08:08.679 --> 01:08:11.079
<v Speaker 1>when you look at his book and when you read

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01:08:11.119 --> 01:08:16.840
<v Speaker 1>his book, he talks about how instead of these military

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01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:21.279
<v Speaker 1>commanders and these people who are high up the chain

1114
01:08:21.279 --> 01:08:28.159
<v Speaker 1>of command, instead of acting in the interest the best

1115
01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:32.319
<v Speaker 1>interest of those who are under their command, they act

1116
01:08:32.359 --> 01:08:36.479
<v Speaker 1>in the best interest of themselves. And because of the

1117
01:08:36.520 --> 01:08:42.239
<v Speaker 1>way the military has become structured over the last several decades,

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01:08:42.920 --> 01:08:47.600
<v Speaker 1>and because of the political environment that was part of

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01:08:47.640 --> 01:08:52.039
<v Speaker 1>the Pentagon and part of the command structure, these individuals

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01:08:52.119 --> 01:08:56.680
<v Speaker 1>wound up looking up more for themselves than they did

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01:08:56.680 --> 01:08:58.560
<v Speaker 1>for those who are under them. And that is the

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01:08:58.640 --> 01:09:03.439
<v Speaker 1>exact opposite of the way it's supposed to be. So

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01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:06.079
<v Speaker 1>when the time came to put this plan together to

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01:09:07.600 --> 01:09:12.399
<v Speaker 1>pull out of Afghanistan, too many of these, and the

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01:09:12.520 --> 01:09:16.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, in top leadership positions in the military simply

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01:09:16.159 --> 01:09:20.039
<v Speaker 1>stood by and did nothing while this plan and these

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01:09:20.039 --> 01:09:24.520
<v Speaker 1>actions played itself out. And Stu Sheller, as you'll remember,

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01:09:26.520 --> 01:09:29.039
<v Speaker 1>he probably shouldn't have by the letter of the law,

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01:09:29.079 --> 01:09:32.520
<v Speaker 1>by the letter of the Uniform Code of Military Justice,

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01:09:32.520 --> 01:09:34.000
<v Speaker 1>he should not have done what he did.

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01:09:36.239 --> 01:09:40.560
<v Speaker 2>But he did it in the knowledge, fully aware, in

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01:09:40.600 --> 01:09:41.319
<v Speaker 2>the knowledge that.

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<v Speaker 1>By him doing that he would likely face consequences for it.

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01:09:47.159 --> 01:09:51.520
<v Speaker 1>And he did face consequence. So he was thrown in

1135
01:09:51.600 --> 01:09:55.319
<v Speaker 1>the brig drummed out of the Marine Corps for publicly

1136
01:09:55.399 --> 01:10:01.359
<v Speaker 1>condemning the chaotic military withdrawal from Afghanistan. Now, almost four

1137
01:10:01.439 --> 01:10:04.239
<v Speaker 1>years later, he is part of the team that is

1138
01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:10.520
<v Speaker 1>investigating the Biden administration's handling of the evacuation that led

1139
01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:13.760
<v Speaker 1>to the deaths of thirteen US troops in the suicide

1140
01:10:13.800 --> 01:10:20.079
<v Speaker 1>attack at the Kabul Airport. Ironic that I will be

1141
01:10:20.159 --> 01:10:24.640
<v Speaker 1>investigating who should be held accountable for Afghanistan, Lieutenant Colonel Seller,

1142
01:10:25.199 --> 01:10:30.760
<v Speaker 1>who was handed a senior role at the Pentagon by

1143
01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump, said earlier this week. So it's just how

1144
01:10:34.920 --> 01:10:39.079
<v Speaker 1>much Washington has changed since Trump returned to power. It

1145
01:10:39.119 --> 01:10:42.680
<v Speaker 1>marks an extraordinary turnaround for a figure who was relieved

1146
01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:47.399
<v Speaker 1>of command and court martialed after posting a video criticizing

1147
01:10:47.479 --> 01:10:53.000
<v Speaker 1>senior officers on a day a blast ripped through the

1148
01:10:53.039 --> 01:10:58.479
<v Speaker 1>American personnel guarding the evacuation from the Afghan capital. I've

1149
01:10:58.479 --> 01:11:02.479
<v Speaker 1>been fighting for seventeen years, then, commander of the Advanced

1150
01:11:02.479 --> 01:11:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Infantry Infantry Training Battalion, I am willing to throw it

1151
01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:12.279
<v Speaker 1>all away to say to my senior leaders, I demand accountability.

1152
01:11:13.520 --> 01:11:18.960
<v Speaker 1>So again, he knew what he was getting into when

1153
01:11:19.039 --> 01:11:21.079
<v Speaker 1>he did that, He knew what the consequences would be,

1154
01:11:22.520 --> 01:11:24.920
<v Speaker 1>and he did it anyway because because what he thought

1155
01:11:24.920 --> 01:11:30.840
<v Speaker 1>it was the right thing. And now Pete heg Seth

1156
01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:32.640
<v Speaker 1>and Donald Trump has said, you know what we need.

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01:11:32.680 --> 01:11:38.119
<v Speaker 1>This guy who had it was intimately familiar with the

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01:11:38.159 --> 01:11:44.399
<v Speaker 1>plan and wanted to know why the top military leader

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01:11:45.439 --> 01:11:49.920
<v Speaker 1>or top military leaders whom he was under, didn't step

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01:11:50.039 --> 01:11:53.399
<v Speaker 1>up and say this is wrong. This cannot happen like this.

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01:11:55.880 --> 01:11:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Last month, he announced he had taken up the post

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01:11:57.640 --> 01:12:02.720
<v Speaker 1>of the Pentagon Senior Advisor, and Pete Hegseth the military

1163
01:12:02.800 --> 01:12:04.560
<v Speaker 1>is in desperate need of change, and there can be

1164
01:12:04.640 --> 01:12:08.359
<v Speaker 1>no change without disruptors, he said at the time. For

1165
01:12:08.439 --> 01:12:12.479
<v Speaker 1>those who criticizing or criticize wanting stability in the status quo,

1166
01:12:13.079 --> 01:12:19.560
<v Speaker 1>you are the real problem. And look, you know, on

1167
01:12:19.560 --> 01:12:26.199
<v Speaker 1>one hand, you know, these these top military leaders who

1168
01:12:26.319 --> 01:12:29.920
<v Speaker 1>have served the country for many years and worked their

1169
01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:34.520
<v Speaker 1>way up into these top leadership positions. On one hand,

1170
01:12:34.199 --> 01:12:38.439
<v Speaker 1>it's right for them to be concerned about I guess,

1171
01:12:38.439 --> 01:12:43.479
<v Speaker 1>their own personal futures. But when you really look at

1172
01:12:43.880 --> 01:12:48.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, what's necessary for cohesive leadership in the United

1173
01:12:48.399 --> 01:12:53.079
<v Speaker 1>States military. What's really necessary is that you know, they

1174
01:12:53.159 --> 01:12:58.560
<v Speaker 1>look out for those who are under their command. And

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01:12:58.600 --> 01:13:02.119
<v Speaker 1>that is really the the way that I guess, in

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01:13:02.119 --> 01:13:04.439
<v Speaker 1>a perfect world that these things are supposed to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Stu Scheller said he was the only guy fired for

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01:13:11.520 --> 01:13:17.199
<v Speaker 1>telling the truth about what happened in Afghanistan. Biden, president

1179
01:13:17.239 --> 01:13:19.239
<v Speaker 1>at the time, ordered the withdrawal of the last remaining

1180
01:13:19.239 --> 01:13:22.359
<v Speaker 1>American troops from the country in April of twenty one,

1181
01:13:22.840 --> 01:13:25.439
<v Speaker 1>quickly descended into chaos. We all saw the video. We

1182
01:13:25.520 --> 01:13:31.000
<v Speaker 1>know what happened. Afghan government force has melted away as

1183
01:13:31.039 --> 01:13:35.199
<v Speaker 1>our allies left, setting Taliban troops on a helter skelter

1184
01:13:35.359 --> 01:13:36.479
<v Speaker 1>race too Kabul.

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01:13:38.680 --> 01:13:39.800
<v Speaker 2>And the rest is history.

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01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:43.479
<v Speaker 1>And now Sheller is going to be one of the

1187
01:13:43.479 --> 01:13:47.760
<v Speaker 1>guys who's investigating what's happening. That is, that is ironic,

1188
01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:52.760
<v Speaker 1>it is poetic justice, and it's everything right in the

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01:13:54.319 --> 01:13:56.359
<v Speaker 1>in the most important way that it can be right.

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01:13:57.680 --> 01:14:00.359
<v Speaker 1>So God blessed Stu Scheller. I'm gonna I'm going to

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01:14:00.439 --> 01:14:02.319
<v Speaker 1>work to get him as a guest on the show

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01:14:02.880 --> 01:14:05.920
<v Speaker 1>sometime soon, because I would love to hear from him. Yes,

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01:14:06.199 --> 01:14:09.159
<v Speaker 1>he gets involved in this investigation to the extent that

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01:14:09.239 --> 01:14:12.039
<v Speaker 1>he is able to talk about it. And with all

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01:14:12.039 --> 01:14:14.640
<v Speaker 1>these different investigations going on in Washington, I know a

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01:14:14.680 --> 01:14:17.039
<v Speaker 1>lot of people like me are feeling like, you know,

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01:14:17.079 --> 01:14:20.399
<v Speaker 1>it's one thing to have the investigation, let's have some

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01:14:20.439 --> 01:14:21.840
<v Speaker 1>accountability on the other end.

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<v Speaker 2>One fifty five.

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01:14:23.039 --> 01:14:32.119
<v Speaker 1>Dan Carolyn for Bill Cunningham, seven hundred WLW.

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01:14:36.520 --> 01:14:37.239
<v Speaker 7>Al right back on.

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01:14:37.159 --> 01:14:41.239
<v Speaker 2>The big one, seven hundred WLW. It's Memorial Day. I

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01:14:41.239 --> 01:14:42.680
<v Speaker 2>hope your weekend is going great.

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01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:49.239
<v Speaker 1>And it is my pleasure to welcome in a buddy

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01:14:49.279 --> 01:14:50.960
<v Speaker 1>of mine, a guy I've known for a little while.

1206
01:14:51.039 --> 01:14:54.840
<v Speaker 1>And Jim serger Is is a local author, and I mean,

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01:14:55.079 --> 01:14:57.000
<v Speaker 1>you talk about a guy, I mean, what a life.

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01:14:57.319 --> 01:15:00.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, this guy graduated from UC spend time the Navy,

1209
01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:06.960
<v Speaker 1>backpack through Asia and now he's turned to just writing

1210
01:15:07.000 --> 01:15:09.760
<v Speaker 1>book after book after book. And Jim Sergert is great

1211
01:15:09.760 --> 01:15:11.560
<v Speaker 1>to have you back on the show. How are you, sir?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, Dan, Happy Memorial Day to EW and thanks for

1213
01:15:14.680 --> 01:15:16.479
<v Speaker 7>having me on this beautiful.

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01:15:16.079 --> 01:15:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Day that is it is a beautiful day.

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01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:21.159
<v Speaker 1>I think we hopefully were turning the corner and it's

1216
01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:23.760
<v Speaker 1>finally going to start feeling like summertime around here. But

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01:15:23.920 --> 01:15:26.359
<v Speaker 1>before we get to your new books and the things

1218
01:15:26.399 --> 01:15:29.039
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about, you wrote a book not

1219
01:15:29.199 --> 01:15:33.680
<v Speaker 1>long ago called Jump, talking about the anniversary of the

1220
01:15:34.479 --> 01:15:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Van Hallen concert that you and your buddies went to

1221
01:15:36.880 --> 01:15:41.880
<v Speaker 1>see here in Cincinnati. I saw video recently of David

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01:15:41.960 --> 01:15:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Lee Roth, and David Lee Roth is going back out

1223
01:15:44.800 --> 01:15:49.039
<v Speaker 1>on tour, and he is, and he may have lost

1224
01:15:49.079 --> 01:15:50.840
<v Speaker 1>a little zip on the fastball, if you know what

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01:15:50.880 --> 01:15:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. But I was wondering, are you planning on

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01:15:55.760 --> 01:15:58.760
<v Speaker 1>going to see the David Lee Roth tour and maybe

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01:15:58.800 --> 01:16:02.880
<v Speaker 1>relive the greats of that Van Hallen concert from nineteen

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01:16:02.920 --> 01:16:03.359
<v Speaker 1>eighty four.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, let's say it like this. You'll never be able

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01:16:06.840 --> 01:16:10.640
<v Speaker 7>to relive that concert from forty years You can't recreen

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01:16:10.800 --> 01:16:13.800
<v Speaker 7>years old, right, thirteen years old. I mean, that's my

1232
01:16:13.880 --> 01:16:16.960
<v Speaker 7>first concert with Eddie and everybody in the Cincinnati Garden.

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01:16:17.840 --> 01:16:21.439
<v Speaker 7>Now you go forward forty one years, it's just David

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01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:24.239
<v Speaker 7>Lee Ross. Nothing against David le Gross. I think he's

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01:16:24.279 --> 01:16:26.800
<v Speaker 7>one of the greatest showmen ever to take center stage

1236
01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:29.960
<v Speaker 7>and rock and roll. But it's just him by himself.

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01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:32.960
<v Speaker 7>The band is not together, so the Blues Brothers, it

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01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:35.319
<v Speaker 7>would be like the Blues Brothers in reverse. You know,

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01:16:35.399 --> 01:16:38.840
<v Speaker 7>the band is broken up. Yeah, but yes, I am

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01:16:38.920 --> 01:16:40.760
<v Speaker 7>gonna go. As a matter of fact, that white guy

1241
01:16:40.880 --> 01:16:43.600
<v Speaker 7>just talked about it. Yes, me and a couple another

1242
01:16:43.640 --> 01:16:45.680
<v Speaker 7>couple are gonna go, and we're gonna go down there.

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01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Does his tour bring him to Cincinnati?

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01:16:49.560 --> 01:16:52.920
<v Speaker 7>It does August twenty first. That is a Thursday down

1245
01:16:52.960 --> 01:16:54.760
<v Speaker 7>at hard Rock right there in Cincinnati.

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01:16:54.880 --> 01:16:56.720
<v Speaker 2>How about that? That is fantastic.

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01:16:57.199 --> 01:16:59.000
<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna try to get him some jump books.

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01:16:59.079 --> 01:17:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Dan, at least you should get a picture. You should

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01:17:02.680 --> 01:17:04.920
<v Speaker 1>get a photo. He's got to be he's got to

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01:17:04.920 --> 01:17:06.159
<v Speaker 1>be open to something like that.

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01:17:06.600 --> 01:17:10.720
<v Speaker 7>I like that. David Lee Ross. Absolutely.

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01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:10.960
<v Speaker 6>Well.

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01:17:11.039 --> 01:17:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Then then you let me know how the show is

1254
01:17:14.159 --> 01:17:15.920
<v Speaker 1>and I'll have you on for your review.

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01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:16.560
<v Speaker 2>How about that?

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01:17:16.960 --> 01:17:20.359
<v Speaker 7>Yes, sir, I'll put it up on yell. But how

1257
01:17:20.399 --> 01:17:22.840
<v Speaker 7>about that?

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01:17:22.960 --> 01:17:25.800
<v Speaker 1>You want to hear Jim Segers play by play of

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01:17:25.840 --> 01:17:27.720
<v Speaker 1>the David Lee Ross Show that I am.

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01:17:27.600 --> 01:17:30.239
<v Speaker 7>Looking forward to it. I mean, everybody ages, but I

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<v Speaker 7>give him credit going back out there. Still bring him

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<v Speaker 7>true to his vocals and everything else. I applaud him.

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<v Speaker 7>Go for it, you know, keep going fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Why not? I mean, it's not like, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>the thing is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like he's a guy that ever took himself

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01:17:46.960 --> 01:17:49.960
<v Speaker 1>all that seriously to begin with, because you look at

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01:17:50.000 --> 01:17:52.199
<v Speaker 1>the stuff he did in his prime. I mean, he

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01:17:52.319 --> 01:17:54.600
<v Speaker 1>was just going out there having a good time. And

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that people liked it and he sold thousands

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01:17:56.720 --> 01:18:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and thousands of records I think speaks for itself absolutely.

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<v Speaker 7>So Jump was there number one song ever to hit

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01:18:03.840 --> 01:18:08.159
<v Speaker 7>number one? As Van Hailing and then Van Hanlin after

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01:18:08.279 --> 01:18:12.439
<v Speaker 7>David le Ross left ended up releasing number one albums,

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01:18:12.560 --> 01:18:16.399
<v Speaker 7>but they never got a number one saw? How about that?

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01:18:16.439 --> 01:18:18.119
<v Speaker 2>How about that? All right?

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01:18:18.680 --> 01:18:20.960
<v Speaker 1>So you've you've got a couple of books in the

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01:18:21.039 --> 01:18:24.159
<v Speaker 1>queue that are getting ready to come out, and one

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01:18:24.199 --> 01:18:27.359
<v Speaker 1>you told me about is another a book about tunnels

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<v Speaker 1>to towers, and uh, this is I guess say, are

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<v Speaker 1>these books follow up to your earlier books about about

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<v Speaker 1>nine to eleven? The first one A Time to Always Remember,

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01:18:36.199 --> 01:18:39.479
<v Speaker 1>and then uh, the Time to Remember Bond of Firefighters.

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<v Speaker 1>This this is another follow up in that strain.

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<v Speaker 7>Is that right, yes, sir, it is. This one is

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<v Speaker 7>This one is Salute the Service being Memorial Day. I'll

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<v Speaker 7>share with you first that this is a compile of

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01:18:55.479 --> 01:19:00.840
<v Speaker 7>a bunch of military people, active veterans and act military

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01:19:01.000 --> 01:19:04.359
<v Speaker 7>that served during nine to eleven or after nine eleven.

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<v Speaker 7>So what I have each individual do is share their

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01:19:08.560 --> 01:19:11.560
<v Speaker 7>nine to eleven day and then how that impacted their

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01:19:11.600 --> 01:19:13.920
<v Speaker 7>military career post nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, how about that.

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<v Speaker 7>One gentleman that I interviewed thirty deployments over his whole career.

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<v Speaker 7>Fifteen of them happened after nine eleven, and he retired

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01:19:26.880 --> 01:19:32.439
<v Speaker 7>about six years ago, so it changed everything full circle.

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01:19:33.399 --> 01:19:38.760
<v Speaker 7>So I interview Air Force, Marines, Navy, coast Guards. There's

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01:19:38.800 --> 01:19:44.000
<v Speaker 7>folks that dropped everything and went straight over to kreate, Afghanistan, Iraq.

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<v Speaker 7>They're sharing everything. Now, we don't go into grave detail

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01:19:47.880 --> 01:19:50.439
<v Speaker 7>because that's not the mission of the book. The mission

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01:19:50.479 --> 01:19:53.520
<v Speaker 7>of the book with tunnel to Towers is everybody can

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01:19:53.560 --> 01:19:57.119
<v Speaker 7>remember minute by minute, hour by hour, who they spoke

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01:19:57.199 --> 01:19:59.399
<v Speaker 7>to on nine to eleven, who they were with on

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01:19:59.479 --> 01:20:02.920
<v Speaker 7>nine eleven, and who they shared a conversation with, who

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01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:05.079
<v Speaker 7>are they were concerned with, who they reached out with.

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01:20:05.520 --> 01:20:09.119
<v Speaker 7>So this is the third book with Tunnels to Towers.

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01:20:09.119 --> 01:20:11.279
<v Speaker 7>All the money goes back to Tunnel to Towers. We

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01:20:11.319 --> 01:20:13.880
<v Speaker 7>don't make any money off of this book, and it's

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01:20:13.880 --> 01:20:20.439
<v Speaker 7>to help gold Star Families, first responders, families, disabled veterans

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01:20:20.479 --> 01:20:24.840
<v Speaker 7>And as of today, they have given out over ten

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01:20:25.000 --> 01:20:27.680
<v Speaker 7>excuse me, one hundred and thirty mortgage free homes last

1312
01:20:27.720 --> 01:20:30.920
<v Speaker 7>year and they're in the process of opening up their

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01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:35.319
<v Speaker 7>fifth homeless village for veterans in the United States. So

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01:20:35.359 --> 01:20:40.479
<v Speaker 7>they have Texas, Florida, Michigan, Maryland, and New Jersey as

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01:20:40.520 --> 01:20:41.000
<v Speaker 7>we speak.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is a terrific, a terrific, unbelievably great organization.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I think the first time we spoke

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01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:51.279
<v Speaker 1>was when your book came out, your first nine to

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01:20:51.279 --> 01:20:54.760
<v Speaker 1>eleven book came out of Time to Always Remember. And

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01:20:54.880 --> 01:20:57.359
<v Speaker 1>so now you've done two more in that vein and

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01:20:58.479 --> 01:21:00.159
<v Speaker 1>you correct me if I'm wrong, But it seems to

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01:21:00.199 --> 01:21:03.560
<v Speaker 1>me that these books, These nine eleven books have really

1323
01:21:04.399 --> 01:21:08.279
<v Speaker 1>come to mean a lot to you, and really, yes, sir,

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01:21:08.680 --> 01:21:09.600
<v Speaker 1>to talk about that a.

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<v Speaker 7>Little bit, Yes, sir. While I served in the Navy,

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01:21:12.279 --> 01:21:15.680
<v Speaker 7>my father in law was in the Army Vietnam. My

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01:21:15.720 --> 01:21:19.159
<v Speaker 7>brother in law a long time ago, he served active

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01:21:19.239 --> 01:21:22.520
<v Speaker 7>duty in the Army. My wife's cousin he was Special

1329
01:21:22.560 --> 01:21:25.640
<v Speaker 7>Forces in the Army. So I think that I've always

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01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:28.439
<v Speaker 7>been buddies of my dads that were in the military

1331
01:21:28.520 --> 01:21:31.560
<v Speaker 7>growing up in Cincinnati, and it's always been a part

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01:21:31.560 --> 01:21:35.760
<v Speaker 7>of my upbringing. I should say that I've always respected

1333
01:21:35.840 --> 01:21:39.920
<v Speaker 7>veterans and I wanted to do something for them, loving

1334
01:21:39.960 --> 01:21:42.560
<v Speaker 7>this country, putting the country first like they always do.

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01:21:43.119 --> 01:21:46.479
<v Speaker 7>So I kept seeing the time nine to eleven, which

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01:21:46.520 --> 01:21:49.199
<v Speaker 7>correlates with the date nine to eleven, and you're given

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01:21:49.279 --> 01:21:52.399
<v Speaker 7>seven hundred and thirty times basically in the year to

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01:21:52.520 --> 01:21:56.479
<v Speaker 7>remember nine to eleven. So that includes military, that included

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01:21:56.520 --> 01:21:59.880
<v Speaker 7>first and Fondi's cops, what have you. So this book,

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01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:03.319
<v Speaker 7>it's amazing. It brings me great pride for this country

1341
01:22:03.359 --> 01:22:06.439
<v Speaker 7>to create this book, just helping out so many of

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01:22:06.439 --> 01:22:09.399
<v Speaker 7>that needed. So that's a mission behind the book.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Carroll Well and I appreciate you talking about that.

1344
01:22:13.279 --> 01:22:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I know another passion in your life is baseball, and

1345
01:22:16.720 --> 01:22:19.439
<v Speaker 1>I know you were at you were a great American

1346
01:22:19.479 --> 01:22:23.880
<v Speaker 1>ballpark for the remembrance of Pete Rose. And I saw

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01:22:23.920 --> 01:22:26.800
<v Speaker 1>you took a picture with Dennis Wildman Walker, So I'm

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01:22:26.800 --> 01:22:32.920
<v Speaker 1>sorry you had to endure that.

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<v Speaker 7>That's my buddy there, wild Man, that's my buddy. I

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01:22:36.399 --> 01:22:38.479
<v Speaker 7>always love seeing him and all the fans. What a

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01:22:38.520 --> 01:22:42.439
<v Speaker 7>great night. That was terrific, terrific night. You know, growing

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01:22:42.520 --> 01:22:45.800
<v Speaker 7>up in Anderson Township, you know, back in seventy seven,

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01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:48.600
<v Speaker 7>seventy six, all I wanted to be was Pete Rose

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01:22:48.600 --> 01:22:52.560
<v Speaker 7>and half my sub division one absolutely, so yes, it

1355
01:22:52.680 --> 01:22:55.479
<v Speaker 7>was a terrific night to honor him. It was well

1356
01:22:55.479 --> 01:22:58.000
<v Speaker 7>done by the red I applaud them. So it was

1357
01:22:58.039 --> 01:23:01.680
<v Speaker 7>a great night. And so Louie, baseball is in my boy.

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01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:02.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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01:23:02.399 --> 01:23:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I had wild Man on the next night after that happened.

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01:23:05.800 --> 01:23:08.000
<v Speaker 1>And and I mean, do you know what I mean,

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01:23:08.439 --> 01:23:11.600
<v Speaker 1>He'd be hard pressed to find anyone, you know, other

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01:23:11.680 --> 01:23:14.159
<v Speaker 1>than you and wild Man who are are more passionate

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01:23:14.239 --> 01:23:16.000
<v Speaker 1>about the history of Pete Rose in this town.

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<v Speaker 7>I drug my dad up to Dayton, Ohio. I was

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01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:23.039
<v Speaker 7>leaving for the Navy gonna be stationed in Japan, and

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01:23:23.119 --> 01:23:25.279
<v Speaker 7>I said, Dad, let's go up to Dayton, Ohio. Pete

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01:23:25.359 --> 01:23:27.960
<v Speaker 7>Rose is at a baseball card show. He said, okay,

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01:23:28.079 --> 01:23:33.159
<v Speaker 7>let's go. So January like fifteenth, nineteen ninety two, before

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01:23:33.159 --> 01:23:35.880
<v Speaker 7>I shipped off overseas, my dad and I went up

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01:23:35.920 --> 01:23:39.079
<v Speaker 7>there and it was a short line, moved very very quickly,

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01:23:39.560 --> 01:23:42.720
<v Speaker 7>and people, you sign this, and then my dad said, Hey,

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01:23:42.720 --> 01:23:45.119
<v Speaker 7>how's your brother Dave doing? And then they kind of

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01:23:45.199 --> 01:23:47.920
<v Speaker 7>hit it off, you know, just for a few seconds.

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01:23:48.479 --> 01:23:50.880
<v Speaker 7>So that was a good piece of history with my dad.

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01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:54.560
<v Speaker 7>Nine on a little road trip. Love road trips with baseball.

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01:23:54.680 --> 01:23:55.319
<v Speaker 7>A lot of fun.

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01:23:55.840 --> 01:23:56.880
<v Speaker 2>That is fantastic.

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01:23:56.920 --> 01:23:59.920
<v Speaker 1>And I know, coming up a little bit later on

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01:24:00.079 --> 01:24:03.119
<v Speaker 1>in February next year, you're talking about a book you're

1380
01:24:03.119 --> 01:24:05.399
<v Speaker 1>working on about baseball.

1381
01:24:05.119 --> 01:24:06.439
<v Speaker 2>That is going to be coming up.

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01:24:06.479 --> 01:24:06.840
<v Speaker 7>Correct.

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01:24:07.359 --> 01:24:10.159
<v Speaker 2>What is a Jim Serger book on baseball going to

1384
01:24:10.199 --> 01:24:10.560
<v Speaker 2>look like?

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01:24:11.159 --> 01:24:13.680
<v Speaker 7>Well, I'll tell you what. I've never written a full

1386
01:24:13.760 --> 01:24:17.319
<v Speaker 7>fledged fictional book before. So this is a fictional book

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01:24:17.439 --> 01:24:22.520
<v Speaker 7>called Everybody Bunch about a manager who was also a coach.

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01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:24.600
<v Speaker 7>And what I mean by that is you got to

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01:24:24.680 --> 01:24:27.000
<v Speaker 7>have both. At the high school level, you have to

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01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:29.079
<v Speaker 7>be a manager and a coach. You can't have one

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01:24:29.119 --> 01:24:32.800
<v Speaker 7>without the other. So I build a fictitious story on

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01:24:32.840 --> 01:24:34.640
<v Speaker 7>all the stuff that I had seen. A couple of

1393
01:24:34.680 --> 01:24:37.520
<v Speaker 7>high schools here in town helped me out build the story,

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01:24:37.520 --> 01:24:40.800
<v Speaker 7>allow me access to their practices, and I build a

1395
01:24:40.840 --> 01:24:44.399
<v Speaker 7>fictitious story of how you can do that. Just torit

1396
01:24:44.520 --> 01:24:48.279
<v Speaker 7>his memories. My dad played, you know, from University of

1397
01:24:48.279 --> 01:24:51.840
<v Speaker 7>Cincinnati baseball. I played for Midland Chiefs for one year.

1398
01:24:52.319 --> 01:24:57.199
<v Speaker 7>Mylok Rockets for state runner ups in nineteen eighty eight.

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01:24:57.279 --> 01:25:00.399
<v Speaker 7>So baseball has always been in my blood absolute So

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01:25:00.479 --> 01:25:02.680
<v Speaker 7>I thought it would be a great project for me,

1401
01:25:03.439 --> 01:25:06.319
<v Speaker 7>something that is a serious challenge for me to do.

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01:25:06.439 --> 01:25:08.840
<v Speaker 7>Putting a lot of quotes in something in commons, I've

1403
01:25:08.840 --> 01:25:13.840
<v Speaker 7>ever done any of that, Dan, I'm only good at referencing.

1404
01:25:14.439 --> 01:25:18.000
<v Speaker 7>So this is a terrific project. I've heard good reviews.

1405
01:25:18.039 --> 01:25:20.520
<v Speaker 7>I've already sent it out to free people. They gave

1406
01:25:20.520 --> 01:25:23.319
<v Speaker 7>me positive reviews on the book. So that book will

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01:25:23.319 --> 01:25:25.680
<v Speaker 7>be coming out in February. Right, there's the high school

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01:25:25.720 --> 01:25:26.640
<v Speaker 7>season start?

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01:25:27.199 --> 01:25:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Is that is fans? Well, congratulations on that.

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01:25:29.880 --> 01:25:32.000
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I'm looking at the list of books

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01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:33.920
<v Speaker 1>as you've written, I mean you're really starting to stack

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01:25:33.960 --> 01:25:36.640
<v Speaker 1>them up. I mean, you have been going at this

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01:25:36.720 --> 01:25:41.119
<v Speaker 1>for a little while now, and tell you you know,

1414
01:25:41.159 --> 01:25:44.399
<v Speaker 1>I've always been interested about people who were able to

1415
01:25:44.399 --> 01:25:49.439
<v Speaker 1>write books, just about the process and in I find

1416
01:25:49.479 --> 01:25:51.239
<v Speaker 1>that I don't know why, but I find that that

1417
01:25:51.359 --> 01:25:56.119
<v Speaker 1>process compelling. My wife reads a series of books by

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01:25:56.159 --> 01:26:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Diana gambled On, and we went up to Canada actually

1419
01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:03.479
<v Speaker 1>and attended an event with her, and she was doing

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01:26:03.960 --> 01:26:06.199
<v Speaker 1>some Q and A sessions and we were in one

1421
01:26:06.239 --> 01:26:08.000
<v Speaker 1>of those sessions and I got to ask her about

1422
01:26:08.039 --> 01:26:10.840
<v Speaker 1>the process of writing the book that was. You know,

1423
01:26:10.920 --> 01:26:12.960
<v Speaker 1>that's what I was interested in, you know, about the

1424
01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:16.840
<v Speaker 1>physical process of writing a book. What's that like for you?

1425
01:26:17.000 --> 01:26:20.840
<v Speaker 1>When when Jim Serger decides I'm going to write a book, what,

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01:26:21.039 --> 01:26:23.319
<v Speaker 1>you know what, what's kind of like a day in

1427
01:26:23.359 --> 01:26:26.439
<v Speaker 1>the life of Jim Suger, Like when you're involved in that.

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01:26:27.479 --> 01:26:30.840
<v Speaker 7>The biggest thing is, I don't proofread it while I'm

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01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:34.840
<v Speaker 7>creating it, because my chain of thought will instantly catch

1430
01:26:34.880 --> 01:26:38.319
<v Speaker 7>a word that is misspelled, and then as a writer,

1431
01:26:38.520 --> 01:26:41.359
<v Speaker 7>you want to stop and fix that one misspelled word,

1432
01:26:41.760 --> 01:26:43.720
<v Speaker 7>and then you forgot where your train of thought was

1433
01:26:43.720 --> 01:26:46.239
<v Speaker 7>taking you down or your past was taking you down.

1434
01:26:46.640 --> 01:26:48.800
<v Speaker 7>So my objective is when I write, is I keep

1435
01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:51.840
<v Speaker 7>writing to get in a word count maybe three thousand.

1436
01:26:52.399 --> 01:26:55.960
<v Speaker 7>Maybe I write for two hours straight and I don't

1437
01:26:56.000 --> 01:26:59.920
<v Speaker 7>proof read my book until I'm done writing the book.

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01:27:00.840 --> 01:27:04.520
<v Speaker 7>Then I go back and try to catch as many mistakes,

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01:27:04.640 --> 01:27:09.119
<v Speaker 7>and then there goes those comments again, Dan, Okay, all right,

1440
01:27:09.560 --> 01:27:11.560
<v Speaker 7>I try to catch as many as I can. I

1441
01:27:11.560 --> 01:27:15.359
<v Speaker 7>will have read the book probably about nine times before

1442
01:27:15.359 --> 01:27:17.800
<v Speaker 7>I turn it over to the editor, and then he

1443
01:27:17.880 --> 01:27:21.239
<v Speaker 7>will take it from there. So the process myself is

1444
01:27:21.359 --> 01:27:24.239
<v Speaker 7>I think where a lot of authors stop is they

1445
01:27:24.239 --> 01:27:26.840
<v Speaker 7>never finish it. Well, it's just a rough draft, that's

1446
01:27:26.840 --> 01:27:30.960
<v Speaker 7>all it is. It's but it's a finished item. It's

1447
01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:34.039
<v Speaker 7>something tangible in your hand that you can say, I

1448
01:27:34.119 --> 01:27:36.520
<v Speaker 7>did it. Now, I got to go on to step two.

1449
01:27:36.600 --> 01:27:38.520
<v Speaker 7>I gotta edit it. Now, I gotta go on to

1450
01:27:38.560 --> 01:27:40.520
<v Speaker 7>step three. I gotta line edit it. I mean, there's

1451
01:27:40.520 --> 01:27:43.439
<v Speaker 7>a lot of steps that followed. But to a new writer,

1452
01:27:43.720 --> 01:27:47.880
<v Speaker 7>finish it. Don't worry about anything. Who cares. You're gonna

1453
01:27:47.920 --> 01:27:50.119
<v Speaker 7>have the spill words, all right, That's just the way

1454
01:27:50.159 --> 01:27:51.880
<v Speaker 7>it's going to go. That's why you have.

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01:27:51.880 --> 01:27:54.600
<v Speaker 2>An editor, right, God bless that.

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01:27:54.760 --> 01:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>God bless the editors that I mean, I used to

1457
01:27:56.880 --> 01:27:58.359
<v Speaker 1>I guess I used to do that on a small,

1458
01:27:58.720 --> 01:28:01.760
<v Speaker 1>much smaller scale when I was writing stories for TV

1459
01:28:01.880 --> 01:28:04.279
<v Speaker 1>every night, because you know, you go out, you do

1460
01:28:04.279 --> 01:28:06.279
<v Speaker 1>the interviews and put it together. You write the story

1461
01:28:06.520 --> 01:28:08.560
<v Speaker 1>and then you're going to sit down with a producer

1462
01:28:08.640 --> 01:28:10.399
<v Speaker 1>or a producer is going to look at it, and

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01:28:10.520 --> 01:28:12.479
<v Speaker 1>you know you're you've got a minute and a half

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01:28:12.479 --> 01:28:14.720
<v Speaker 1>to tell that story and it comes in at two

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01:28:14.720 --> 01:28:16.800
<v Speaker 1>and a half minutes. So now you've got to start

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01:28:16.800 --> 01:28:19.720
<v Speaker 1>cutting and uh, you know that process. Do you find

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01:28:19.760 --> 01:28:23.439
<v Speaker 1>that process hard? To cut out stuff that I do?

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01:28:23.720 --> 01:28:26.680
<v Speaker 7>I do because I'll be like, oh, I love this reference,

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01:28:27.079 --> 01:28:29.640
<v Speaker 7>and my editor will say, well, that's a really nice story,

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01:28:29.800 --> 01:28:35.600
<v Speaker 7>but that has nothing to do with this book. Now,

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01:28:36.039 --> 01:28:38.439
<v Speaker 7>really nice that you shared that, but there has nothing

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01:28:38.439 --> 01:28:39.359
<v Speaker 7>to do with the story.

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01:28:39.520 --> 01:28:41.319
<v Speaker 1>So you could save all those and put those in

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01:28:41.359 --> 01:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>another book, you know, all the stuff, all this stuff,

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01:28:43.680 --> 01:28:45.159
<v Speaker 1>it's like all the stuff that wound up on the

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01:28:45.199 --> 01:28:46.039
<v Speaker 1>cutting room floor.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, absolutely, And everybody out there save your ideas. Just

1478
01:28:50.920 --> 01:28:54.119
<v Speaker 7>save ideas, put them in a file camp that you know,

1479
01:28:54.199 --> 01:28:56.239
<v Speaker 7>don't throw them away. If an idea comes to you,

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01:28:56.680 --> 01:28:59.680
<v Speaker 7>write it down on an index card on a piece

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01:28:59.720 --> 01:29:02.439
<v Speaker 7>paper and state it. Because you wouldn't believe how much

1482
01:29:02.479 --> 01:29:04.920
<v Speaker 7>stuff I have in drawers up theres that I saved,

1483
01:29:05.359 --> 01:29:07.800
<v Speaker 7>just a little miscellaneous stuff you know, you picked up

1484
01:29:07.800 --> 01:29:09.520
<v Speaker 7>at a ball game and a football game and a

1485
01:29:09.560 --> 01:29:12.079
<v Speaker 7>hockey game what have you. And you're like, man, that

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01:29:12.119 --> 01:29:15.079
<v Speaker 7>would make for a great story as a reference. So

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01:29:15.439 --> 01:29:16.479
<v Speaker 7>I do that all the time.

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01:29:16.760 --> 01:29:19.159
<v Speaker 2>That is out that that is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim, let me ask you, tell me a little bit

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01:29:22.439 --> 01:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>about Memorial Day. What does what does Memorial Day with

1491
01:29:26.680 --> 01:29:29.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, with your history of service and your and

1492
01:29:29.399 --> 01:29:31.479
<v Speaker 1>your family and and all the rest of it. What

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01:29:31.479 --> 01:29:34.680
<v Speaker 1>does Memorial Day at the at the Serger household look like?

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01:29:35.560 --> 01:29:38.039
<v Speaker 7>It's a huge thank you to those that have fallen.

1495
01:29:38.720 --> 01:29:40.880
<v Speaker 7>It goes on for years. It's not just one day.

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01:29:40.880 --> 01:29:43.640
<v Speaker 7>In the Serger family, I give thank you to all

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01:29:43.680 --> 01:29:46.239
<v Speaker 7>of them, all three hundred and sixty five days. We

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01:29:46.279 --> 01:29:48.800
<v Speaker 7>can't just pendpoint one day just to say thank you.

1499
01:29:49.399 --> 01:29:51.880
<v Speaker 7>Recognize them instead of flag down. It's got to be tomorrow,

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01:29:51.920 --> 01:29:53.279
<v Speaker 7>it's got to be two weeks from the day. We

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01:29:53.359 --> 01:29:55.960
<v Speaker 7>got to do it in another month. You've got to

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01:29:56.000 --> 01:29:59.359
<v Speaker 7>do in December, you know, recognize the falling. Give salute

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01:29:59.399 --> 01:30:02.800
<v Speaker 7>to them, Salute them. I mean Memorial Day. I was

1504
01:30:02.800 --> 01:30:05.359
<v Speaker 7>asking somebody the other day what does Memorial Day mean?

1505
01:30:05.399 --> 01:30:07.680
<v Speaker 7>And they said, well, instantly, I think of half off

1506
01:30:07.840 --> 01:30:10.880
<v Speaker 7>mattress sale. And I said, you know what, as a nation,

1507
01:30:11.079 --> 01:30:14.560
<v Speaker 7>that is true, we were like half off mattresses. Well,

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01:30:14.560 --> 01:30:17.680
<v Speaker 7>that's not what Memorial Day is about. Memorial Day is

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01:30:17.680 --> 01:30:20.239
<v Speaker 7>about all of those that have gone before us, that

1510
01:30:20.319 --> 01:30:23.720
<v Speaker 7>have served this amazing, beautiful country. I mean, I'm looking

1511
01:30:23.800 --> 01:30:26.800
<v Speaker 7>up right now in this cloud. The sun's coming through.

1512
01:30:27.039 --> 01:30:29.520
<v Speaker 7>I mean, it's Chris, it's clear again. Sweats your mind.

1513
01:30:29.920 --> 01:30:33.239
<v Speaker 7>This is an all American day right now, all Americans,

1514
01:30:33.760 --> 01:30:36.760
<v Speaker 7>and we need to celebrate that and remember to say

1515
01:30:36.840 --> 01:30:39.680
<v Speaker 7>thank those tonight when we cheers our bottles or whatever

1516
01:30:39.760 --> 01:30:43.159
<v Speaker 7>beverage of choice, tell them thank you. You know what

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01:30:43.239 --> 01:30:43.520
<v Speaker 7>I mean.

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01:30:44.239 --> 01:30:46.359
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a great sentiment, and it's you know,

1519
01:30:46.399 --> 01:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I was talking with with Scott Powell a little bit earlier,

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01:30:49.920 --> 01:30:53.119
<v Speaker 1>and he was talking about the history of Memorial Day

1521
01:30:53.119 --> 01:30:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and how it started as Decoration Day. And you know,

1522
01:30:55.720 --> 01:30:59.680
<v Speaker 1>it was a group of Confederate women that went out

1523
01:30:59.680 --> 01:31:02.840
<v Speaker 1>to decorate the grave sites of those who had fallen.

1524
01:31:02.880 --> 01:31:04.640
<v Speaker 1>I think he said it was at the Battle of Shiloh.

1525
01:31:04.960 --> 01:31:10.119
<v Speaker 1>But and I was remarking about how it's those simple things.

1526
01:31:10.159 --> 01:31:14.039
<v Speaker 1>It's really the simplest of things, the simplest of gestures

1527
01:31:14.359 --> 01:31:17.119
<v Speaker 1>that wind up having having the greatest meaning. Have you

1528
01:31:17.159 --> 01:31:20.600
<v Speaker 1>found that in life that you know, it's the production.

1529
01:31:20.680 --> 01:31:24.239
<v Speaker 1>It's just every sort of day to day stuff that really.

1530
01:31:24.079 --> 01:31:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Winds up to.

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01:31:26.520 --> 01:31:28.600
<v Speaker 7>Yes, sir, I agree with you on that. It's the

1532
01:31:28.680 --> 01:31:31.640
<v Speaker 7>little things. It really is. I mean, they always say,

1533
01:31:31.720 --> 01:31:34.279
<v Speaker 7>don't sweat the small stuff, but it's actually the small

1534
01:31:34.359 --> 01:31:37.560
<v Speaker 7>stuff that creates the big picture that everybody's like, this

1535
01:31:37.720 --> 01:31:41.399
<v Speaker 7>is amazing. So it's always the small stuff that turns

1536
01:31:41.399 --> 01:31:43.960
<v Speaker 7>from a snowball into an avalanche and we're like, oh,

1537
01:31:44.079 --> 01:31:47.880
<v Speaker 7>this is awesome. Yeah, so simple. Let's decorate the tombstones,

1538
01:31:48.119 --> 01:31:51.439
<v Speaker 7>let's decorate the cemetery, let's trim around them, let's cut

1539
01:31:51.479 --> 01:31:55.800
<v Speaker 7>the grass or whatever. Whatever somebody's little part is. It's awesome.

1540
01:31:55.800 --> 01:31:57.079
<v Speaker 7>And I thank them for doing that.

1541
01:31:58.199 --> 01:32:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's a and again, it's not something you

1542
01:32:00.560 --> 01:32:03.439
<v Speaker 1>don't you don't have to wait for, uh, you know,

1543
01:32:03.520 --> 01:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>a ruling. You don't have to wait for some government

1544
01:32:05.760 --> 01:32:08.159
<v Speaker 1>office to tell you to do it. That that's a

1545
01:32:08.199 --> 01:32:10.600
<v Speaker 1>great thing about being an American is you can step

1546
01:32:10.680 --> 01:32:13.399
<v Speaker 1>up and do these things on your own, and you

1547
01:32:13.479 --> 01:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>wind up making a difference in someone else's life, and

1548
01:32:16.279 --> 01:32:18.319
<v Speaker 1>you probably wind up making a difference in your own

1549
01:32:18.319 --> 01:32:18.960
<v Speaker 1>life as well.

1550
01:32:20.119 --> 01:32:23.119
<v Speaker 7>Absolutely. One thing is I always say thank you to

1551
01:32:23.159 --> 01:32:25.039
<v Speaker 7>a vet when I see the hat on or the

1552
01:32:25.079 --> 01:32:27.319
<v Speaker 7>shirt on, as a matter what day it is, just

1553
01:32:27.359 --> 01:32:30.199
<v Speaker 7>say thank you, thank you. Maybe strike up a little

1554
01:32:30.199 --> 01:32:32.600
<v Speaker 7>bit of a conversation, you know. Of course, when I'm

1555
01:32:32.600 --> 01:32:35.880
<v Speaker 7>at the VA, I'm always talking to them. One day

1556
01:32:35.920 --> 01:32:37.520
<v Speaker 7>I went down there for half an hour. I ended

1557
01:32:37.560 --> 01:32:38.319
<v Speaker 7>up being out there.

1558
01:32:38.199 --> 01:32:39.319
<v Speaker 2>For four How about that.

1559
01:32:39.359 --> 01:32:41.680
<v Speaker 7>I was talking to Charlie and I was talking to Frank,

1560
01:32:42.199 --> 01:32:44.800
<v Speaker 7>you know, hearing what they had to say. Just awesome

1561
01:32:44.960 --> 01:32:47.199
<v Speaker 7>to be a part of that. It really is, It

1562
01:32:47.319 --> 01:32:47.800
<v Speaker 7>really is.

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01:32:47.880 --> 01:32:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Dan Well, Jim Sergan, we we got to run. I

1564
01:32:51.960 --> 01:32:55.399
<v Speaker 1>always appreciate your time and your perspective on life and

1565
01:32:55.399 --> 01:32:58.359
<v Speaker 1>and things and the you know, when when the books

1566
01:32:58.439 --> 01:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>hit the shelves, we'll have you on again and we'll

1567
01:33:00.800 --> 01:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>talk about him again, because I think, you know, Tunnel

1568
01:33:02.920 --> 01:33:05.560
<v Speaker 1>is the tower. Tunnel the Towers is just a great cause.

1569
01:33:05.960 --> 01:33:08.239
<v Speaker 1>And I can't thank you enough for spending the time

1570
01:33:08.680 --> 01:33:10.720
<v Speaker 1>and coming on the show as always.

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01:33:10.960 --> 01:33:12.760
<v Speaker 7>Well, Jim, sure, I appreciate it, all right.

1572
01:33:13.319 --> 01:33:14.840
<v Speaker 2>You take care of yourself, and I'm sure we'll be

1573
01:33:14.880 --> 01:33:17.079
<v Speaker 2>running into each other. We run into each other all

1574
01:33:17.119 --> 01:33:18.159
<v Speaker 2>the time anyway.

1575
01:33:17.880 --> 01:33:21.399
<v Speaker 7>So yes, sir, we do, we do, all right. All

1576
01:33:21.439 --> 01:33:24.199
<v Speaker 7>the best of you and your yes, sir, the best

1577
01:33:24.239 --> 01:33:25.439
<v Speaker 7>of you as well. Thank you, sir.

1578
01:33:25.479 --> 01:33:27.319
<v Speaker 2>All right, Thanks buddy, we'll talk to you later. There

1579
01:33:27.319 --> 01:33:27.520
<v Speaker 2>you go.

1580
01:33:27.640 --> 01:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Jim Serger, and any book by him you want to

1581
01:33:30.640 --> 01:33:32.680
<v Speaker 1>pick up is going to be well worth the time.

1582
01:33:33.079 --> 01:33:35.920
<v Speaker 1>You just google Jim Serger books and you will find

1583
01:33:36.520 --> 01:33:39.000
<v Speaker 1>what's going on there. It's two twenty five. We got

1584
01:33:39.039 --> 01:33:40.359
<v Speaker 1>news coming up to the bottom of the hour, and

1585
01:33:40.359 --> 01:33:43.399
<v Speaker 1>I promised that I would tell my Memorial Day story

1586
01:33:43.760 --> 01:33:45.760
<v Speaker 1>and during the two o'clock hour, and we will do

1587
01:33:45.840 --> 01:33:56.880
<v Speaker 1>that coming up on seven hundred w WELW seven hundred

1588
01:33:56.960 --> 01:34:00.199
<v Speaker 1>WLW two thirty seven, Dan Carroll till three chick what

1589
01:34:00.359 --> 01:34:02.760
<v Speaker 1>comes in after that, and he will get you ready

1590
01:34:02.760 --> 01:34:08.000
<v Speaker 1>for Reds baseball. Tonight's and it's Memorial Day. Pools are open,

1591
01:34:08.479 --> 01:34:10.920
<v Speaker 1>barbecues are going, and we had a great time at

1592
01:34:10.960 --> 01:34:13.279
<v Speaker 1>our swim club last night. I know all the folks

1593
01:34:13.319 --> 01:34:15.920
<v Speaker 1>are there again today. I'll be joining them before too long.

1594
01:34:16.840 --> 01:34:20.600
<v Speaker 1>And it really doesn't feel like pool weather, but that

1595
01:34:20.600 --> 01:34:25.039
<v Speaker 1>didn't stop the kids and some adults who were brave

1596
01:34:25.119 --> 01:34:26.079
<v Speaker 1>enough to jump in that pool.

1597
01:34:26.159 --> 01:34:27.159
<v Speaker 2>Yester that water was cold.

1598
01:34:27.640 --> 01:34:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I stuck my tone in there, and that water was

1599
01:34:29.920 --> 01:34:33.640
<v Speaker 1>as cold as it could be. It is time now too,

1600
01:34:34.119 --> 01:34:35.279
<v Speaker 1>I said, I was going to do this top of

1601
01:34:35.279 --> 01:34:37.640
<v Speaker 1>the two o'clock hour, but I messed up my scheduling

1602
01:34:37.640 --> 01:34:39.439
<v Speaker 1>with Jim Serger and I thought he was going to

1603
01:34:39.479 --> 01:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>be on at one thirty five. It turned out he

1604
01:34:41.039 --> 01:34:43.960
<v Speaker 1>was on after the news too. So in any case,

1605
01:34:46.439 --> 01:34:51.800
<v Speaker 1>any case, I always like to tell the story that

1606
01:34:52.359 --> 01:34:56.680
<v Speaker 1>affected me many years ago, and this goes back to

1607
01:34:56.720 --> 01:34:58.399
<v Speaker 1>when I was a reporter at Fox nineteen.

1608
01:34:58.920 --> 01:35:00.640
<v Speaker 2>I was working day.

1609
01:35:01.039 --> 01:35:03.720
<v Speaker 1>My photographer Dave Smith, and I went out that day

1610
01:35:03.760 --> 01:35:08.399
<v Speaker 1>to get video and report on the parades and speeches

1611
01:35:08.479 --> 01:35:12.800
<v Speaker 1>and the different Memorial Day observations that were taking place

1612
01:35:12.840 --> 01:35:16.279
<v Speaker 1>around town. So we did a few interviews along the way,

1613
01:35:16.319 --> 01:35:19.720
<v Speaker 1>and we wanted to do more than just your standard

1614
01:35:19.760 --> 01:35:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Memorial Day package, so we talked about it and at

1615
01:35:23.640 --> 01:35:26.600
<v Speaker 1>one point Dave, who, by the way, one of the

1616
01:35:26.960 --> 01:35:31.079
<v Speaker 1>greatest Jeopardy player I ever saw. Dave Smith decided that

1617
01:35:31.119 --> 01:35:34.399
<v Speaker 1>we should go to a VFW hall or an American

1618
01:35:34.479 --> 01:35:37.479
<v Speaker 1>legion and he said, I bet we can find someone there,

1619
01:35:37.600 --> 01:35:40.239
<v Speaker 1>some guys who were there who will talk to us.

1620
01:35:40.680 --> 01:35:42.279
<v Speaker 1>And I said, you know what, that sounds like a

1621
01:35:42.279 --> 01:35:46.600
<v Speaker 1>good idea. Let's do it. So we headed for an

1622
01:35:46.600 --> 01:35:49.239
<v Speaker 1>American Legion hall. We wound up at the American Legion

1623
01:35:49.279 --> 01:35:53.079
<v Speaker 1>Hall in Mount Washington, and this is the mid nineties.

1624
01:35:53.960 --> 01:35:57.039
<v Speaker 1>And so we got there and we are in the

1625
01:35:57.119 --> 01:35:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Legion Hall and as we talked to the men and

1626
01:35:58.920 --> 01:36:01.800
<v Speaker 1>women that we found there, many were happy to speak

1627
01:36:01.840 --> 01:36:07.119
<v Speaker 1>to us in person, but they declined to speak to us.

1628
01:36:07.680 --> 01:36:10.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, we offered them an invitation to speak on camera,

1629
01:36:10.439 --> 01:36:14.600
<v Speaker 1>and they declined to speak to us on camera. These

1630
01:36:14.640 --> 01:36:19.640
<v Speaker 1>were mostly combat veterans with incredible, compelling stories to tell,

1631
01:36:20.640 --> 01:36:23.359
<v Speaker 1>but like so many veterans of the World War Two

1632
01:36:23.520 --> 01:36:28.920
<v Speaker 1>or Korea Korean era, they were reluctant to recount their

1633
01:36:28.960 --> 01:36:33.920
<v Speaker 1>own personal time serving in harm's way, many of them

1634
01:36:33.960 --> 01:36:38.039
<v Speaker 1>telling me that what they did in the war was

1635
01:36:38.079 --> 01:36:41.159
<v Speaker 1>not about them, it was about those who did not

1636
01:36:41.279 --> 01:36:47.560
<v Speaker 1>come home. Compounding all this, it was Memorial Day, a

1637
01:36:47.640 --> 01:36:50.520
<v Speaker 1>day that I came to found out that was a

1638
01:36:50.600 --> 01:36:54.520
<v Speaker 1>day that was not only sacred but deeply personal. For

1639
01:36:54.600 --> 01:36:57.960
<v Speaker 1>these veterans. Every single one of them carried with them

1640
01:36:58.800 --> 01:37:02.119
<v Speaker 1>the horrors of war and the memories of those many

1641
01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:06.880
<v Speaker 1>of their closest friends and fellow soldiers who were fallen

1642
01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:11.119
<v Speaker 1>so many years ago. They think about them every day,

1643
01:37:11.720 --> 01:37:15.159
<v Speaker 1>but on this day those memories come to the surface,

1644
01:37:16.319 --> 01:37:19.920
<v Speaker 1>and the idea that they would go on camera to

1645
01:37:19.960 --> 01:37:23.680
<v Speaker 1>talk to some young TV reporter about those experiences was

1646
01:37:24.520 --> 01:37:28.680
<v Speaker 1>less than appealing. So we heard these sentiments repeated many

1647
01:37:28.720 --> 01:37:32.439
<v Speaker 1>times that day, and it was all very respectful, and

1648
01:37:32.560 --> 01:37:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Dave and I were getting to the point where we

1649
01:37:35.880 --> 01:37:38.399
<v Speaker 1>thought it was best that we thanked them for their

1650
01:37:38.439 --> 01:37:42.680
<v Speaker 1>time and be on our way and move on. So

1651
01:37:42.880 --> 01:37:45.920
<v Speaker 1>it was at this point that we were approached by

1652
01:37:45.960 --> 01:37:50.199
<v Speaker 1>a man who introduced himself to us as Squeaky not

1653
01:37:50.279 --> 01:37:53.399
<v Speaker 1>a very big guy, wearing an army jacket from the

1654
01:37:53.439 --> 01:37:56.359
<v Speaker 1>World War two era. Turned out it was the same

1655
01:37:56.399 --> 01:37:58.279
<v Speaker 1>one he used to wear back in the day, still

1656
01:37:58.279 --> 01:37:59.600
<v Speaker 1>fit him at that time.

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01:38:00.119 --> 01:38:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Years later.

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01:38:02.039 --> 01:38:04.840
<v Speaker 1>He told us E Tena's talking to his friends at

1659
01:38:04.840 --> 01:38:08.119
<v Speaker 1>the Legion Hall and that he would be willing to

1660
01:38:08.199 --> 01:38:11.479
<v Speaker 1>go on camera to tell his story.

1661
01:38:11.640 --> 01:38:12.399
<v Speaker 2>So we agreed.

1662
01:38:13.279 --> 01:38:16.159
<v Speaker 1>So we found a spot there at the Legion Hall

1663
01:38:16.199 --> 01:38:20.039
<v Speaker 1>that was slightly secluded, set up the camera and some

1664
01:38:21.279 --> 01:38:26.279
<v Speaker 1>very well done lighting. Dave Smith was just exceptional at

1665
01:38:26.319 --> 01:38:31.239
<v Speaker 1>setting up lighting that fit perfectly for this situation, and

1666
01:38:31.279 --> 01:38:33.560
<v Speaker 1>we sat down and before the camera was rolling, we

1667
01:38:33.600 --> 01:38:37.359
<v Speaker 1>started to talk. And over my time at Fox nineteen,

1668
01:38:37.399 --> 01:38:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I reported hundreds of different stories and interviewed countless individuals,

1669
01:38:42.039 --> 01:38:44.960
<v Speaker 1>but none of those ever stuck with me the way

1670
01:38:45.840 --> 01:38:50.640
<v Speaker 1>that my time was. Squeaky has stuck with me, and

1671
01:38:50.680 --> 01:38:53.800
<v Speaker 1>I came to find out they called him squeaky because

1672
01:38:53.840 --> 01:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>of an injury that he suffered in combat. Piece of

1673
01:38:56.960 --> 01:39:00.600
<v Speaker 1>shrapnel hit him in the throat and damaged his well cars,

1674
01:39:01.680 --> 01:39:03.840
<v Speaker 1>so initially it was thought he told us that he

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01:39:04.119 --> 01:39:07.760
<v Speaker 1>may never speak again, but doctors were able to repair

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01:39:07.800 --> 01:39:11.119
<v Speaker 1>the damage to a degree, and the surgery leaving him

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01:39:11.159 --> 01:39:15.199
<v Speaker 1>with a very high pitched voice, and that is how

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01:39:15.239 --> 01:39:18.359
<v Speaker 1>he came to earn the nickname Squeaky because of the

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01:39:18.359 --> 01:39:21.439
<v Speaker 1>way his voice sounded. So I asked him if he

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01:39:21.479 --> 01:39:25.279
<v Speaker 1>would like us to use his proper name to identify

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01:39:25.399 --> 01:39:29.520
<v Speaker 1>him in our report, but he declined that, saying that

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01:39:29.560 --> 01:39:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Squeaky was fine because that's how his friends knew him,

1683
01:39:33.680 --> 01:39:37.640
<v Speaker 1>and if they saw Squeaky on TV, they'd know who

1684
01:39:37.720 --> 01:39:42.520
<v Speaker 1>it was, and if he used his real name, they

1685
01:39:42.600 --> 01:39:46.039
<v Speaker 1>might think it was some other guy. So that was

1686
01:39:46.399 --> 01:39:50.439
<v Speaker 1>a little insight into his humor. He said, now, Squeaky's

1687
01:39:50.439 --> 01:39:53.479
<v Speaker 1>good enough. That's how they know me. That's what I'll

1688
01:39:53.520 --> 01:39:57.479
<v Speaker 1>go by in your report. So we said fine. So

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01:39:57.520 --> 01:40:00.920
<v Speaker 1>we started to talk on camera, and I asked him

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01:40:00.920 --> 01:40:04.600
<v Speaker 1>about the importance of Memorial Day for all of us

1691
01:40:04.640 --> 01:40:07.920
<v Speaker 1>and why this day was so important and so meaningful

1692
01:40:07.920 --> 01:40:12.800
<v Speaker 1>to him, And to this day I have never forgotten

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01:40:12.840 --> 01:40:18.800
<v Speaker 1>what he said. On June sixth, nineteen forty four, he

1694
01:40:18.840 --> 01:40:20.880
<v Speaker 1>was a young man on board a navy ship, a

1695
01:40:20.920 --> 01:40:24.319
<v Speaker 1>troop carrier, a troop ship they called it, off the

1696
01:40:24.319 --> 01:40:29.319
<v Speaker 1>coast of France. This was d Day, day one of

1697
01:40:29.399 --> 01:40:34.079
<v Speaker 1>Operation Overlord. That day, he was convinced that he would

1698
01:40:34.119 --> 01:40:38.079
<v Speaker 1>be headed to Normandy Beach alongside one hundred and fifty

1699
01:40:38.119 --> 01:40:42.439
<v Speaker 1>six thousand other soldiers as part of the Allied invasion.

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01:40:44.760 --> 01:40:47.199
<v Speaker 1>As fate would have it, on that day, he was

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01:40:47.239 --> 01:40:51.319
<v Speaker 1>instructed that he would not be going ashore. Instead, his

1702
01:40:51.439 --> 01:40:54.920
<v Speaker 1>duty that day would be to man and maintain the

1703
01:40:54.960 --> 01:40:58.800
<v Speaker 1>cargo netting that his fellow soldiers used to go over

1704
01:40:58.840 --> 01:41:01.840
<v Speaker 1>the side of the ship to the assault craft, the

1705
01:41:01.920 --> 01:41:09.159
<v Speaker 1>landing craft that weighted below. Now, these soldiers were geared

1706
01:41:09.239 --> 01:41:12.199
<v Speaker 1>up with all the equipment they would need for the fighting,

1707
01:41:13.000 --> 01:41:17.560
<v Speaker 1>and so that required them to need assistants to get

1708
01:41:17.560 --> 01:41:20.520
<v Speaker 1>over the rail of the ship and onto the cargo netting.

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01:41:22.319 --> 01:41:24.680
<v Speaker 1>This part of the transfer, just getting over the edge,

1710
01:41:24.880 --> 01:41:28.319
<v Speaker 1>had its own set of dangers. And it was during

1711
01:41:28.359 --> 01:41:33.359
<v Speaker 1>this process of assisting these soldiers over the side that

1712
01:41:33.479 --> 01:41:37.239
<v Speaker 1>Squeaky came face to face with so many of the

1713
01:41:37.239 --> 01:41:40.760
<v Speaker 1>men that he knew. Many of them he had served

1714
01:41:40.800 --> 01:41:45.000
<v Speaker 1>with since his first day at basic training, all the

1715
01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:49.640
<v Speaker 1>way up to this day. It was then he told

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01:41:49.720 --> 01:41:53.359
<v Speaker 1>me what he remembers when these or what he remembered

1717
01:41:53.359 --> 01:41:57.840
<v Speaker 1>that these men said to him as they went over

1718
01:41:57.880 --> 01:42:02.880
<v Speaker 1>the side of the ship, these young men knowing they

1719
01:42:02.880 --> 01:42:06.399
<v Speaker 1>were headed to hell on earth, knowing that they were

1720
01:42:07.159 --> 01:42:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the first wave, knowing that there was a very good

1721
01:42:11.079 --> 01:42:16.760
<v Speaker 1>chance they were likely to never return, and that this

1722
01:42:16.960 --> 01:42:22.960
<v Speaker 1>day may very well be their last. At this point

1723
01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:26.119
<v Speaker 1>I could see his eyes well up with tears, and

1724
01:42:26.159 --> 01:42:28.800
<v Speaker 1>he looked at me and he said, almost every single

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01:42:28.880 --> 01:42:32.199
<v Speaker 1>one of them, the ones I knew, the ones I

1726
01:42:32.279 --> 01:42:36.239
<v Speaker 1>didn't know, As they were going over to meet whatever

1727
01:42:36.279 --> 01:42:41.159
<v Speaker 1>fate awaited them. They looked at him and said, don't

1728
01:42:41.159 --> 01:42:45.680
<v Speaker 1>forget about us, And his reply to them was his

1729
01:42:45.800 --> 01:42:50.880
<v Speaker 1>promise that he would not that he would not forget

1730
01:42:50.920 --> 01:42:57.359
<v Speaker 1>about them. Squeaky never forgot the looks on the faces

1731
01:42:57.359 --> 01:43:01.199
<v Speaker 1>of those young men that he saw that day, and

1732
01:43:01.239 --> 01:43:03.560
<v Speaker 1>two days later, when it was his time to go ashore,

1733
01:43:04.560 --> 01:43:07.439
<v Speaker 1>he learned about how many had fallen on that beach

1734
01:43:08.359 --> 01:43:11.920
<v Speaker 1>and how much had been lost, and the faces and

1735
01:43:11.960 --> 01:43:17.600
<v Speaker 1>the words don't forget about us, they were seered into

1736
01:43:17.640 --> 01:43:22.239
<v Speaker 1>his memory, and his promise to them that he would

1737
01:43:22.239 --> 01:43:28.960
<v Speaker 1>not forget about them became a sacred vow. And so

1738
01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:31.760
<v Speaker 1>that's why this day, Memorial Day, is so meaningful to

1739
01:43:32.920 --> 01:43:37.039
<v Speaker 1>men like Squeaky. Had he not been selected for duty

1740
01:43:37.079 --> 01:43:39.560
<v Speaker 1>of assisting soldiers that day get over the edge of

1741
01:43:39.600 --> 01:43:44.239
<v Speaker 1>the ship, he might very well have been part of

1742
01:43:44.279 --> 01:43:49.079
<v Speaker 1>that first wave, and God only knows what may or

1743
01:43:49.119 --> 01:43:53.079
<v Speaker 1>may not have happened to him on that day. He

1744
01:43:53.119 --> 01:43:56.399
<v Speaker 1>told me he believed that God spared him on that

1745
01:43:56.520 --> 01:44:01.119
<v Speaker 1>day so he could carry the memories of those who

1746
01:44:01.119 --> 01:44:06.159
<v Speaker 1>made the ultimate sacrifice, and so he would never forget

1747
01:44:06.159 --> 01:44:11.239
<v Speaker 1>those who went ashore that day. He felt that God

1748
01:44:11.279 --> 01:44:16.800
<v Speaker 1>had reached down and touched him in a way that

1749
01:44:16.800 --> 01:44:20.319
<v Speaker 1>that was the purpose of his life, was to never

1750
01:44:20.960 --> 01:44:28.439
<v Speaker 1>forget those men and what they did that day. Several

1751
01:44:28.560 --> 01:44:32.880
<v Speaker 1>years ago I learned that Squeaky had passed away, and

1752
01:44:32.920 --> 01:44:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I truly believe that his oath to remember those lost

1753
01:44:36.039 --> 01:44:41.279
<v Speaker 1>in the cause of freedom has been fulfilled, and that

1754
01:44:41.359 --> 01:44:45.600
<v Speaker 1>there is a special place in heaven for the Squeakies

1755
01:44:45.720 --> 01:44:50.920
<v Speaker 1>of this world. And so I decided years ago and

1756
01:44:50.960 --> 01:44:54.560
<v Speaker 1>that as long as I'm able, and if I'm lucky

1757
01:44:54.640 --> 01:44:58.960
<v Speaker 1>enough to be behind this microphone on Memorial Day, I

1758
01:44:59.039 --> 01:45:03.079
<v Speaker 1>am going to tell the story of Squeaky and what

1759
01:45:03.119 --> 01:45:06.520
<v Speaker 1>he said to me that day. I do this with

1760
01:45:06.600 --> 01:45:11.960
<v Speaker 1>respect and in hope that the memories of all of

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01:45:11.960 --> 01:45:15.399
<v Speaker 1>those who paid the price for freedom will be honored,

1762
01:45:16.399 --> 01:45:18.600
<v Speaker 1>and that the men who went over the side of

1763
01:45:18.640 --> 01:45:23.560
<v Speaker 1>the ship that day will not be forgotten. And if

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01:45:23.560 --> 01:45:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I have anything to say about it, the man I

1765
01:45:26.840 --> 01:45:30.920
<v Speaker 1>met that day, known as Squeaky, he'll never be forgotten either,

1766
01:45:32.960 --> 01:45:39.279
<v Speaker 1>and God bless him. And I don't know, I don't

1767
01:45:39.359 --> 01:45:43.960
<v Speaker 1>know why it is that particular story that above all

1768
01:45:44.039 --> 01:45:47.520
<v Speaker 1>others that I did well. I was a reporter for

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01:45:47.600 --> 01:45:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Fox nineteen has stuck with me more than anything else,

1770
01:45:53.560 --> 01:45:57.800
<v Speaker 1>more than anything else I can remember doing back in

1771
01:45:57.840 --> 01:46:01.680
<v Speaker 1>those days. But Squeaky, God bless you wherever you are,

1772
01:46:02.520 --> 01:46:05.079
<v Speaker 1>and all men and women who serve in the military,

1773
01:46:05.800 --> 01:46:10.159
<v Speaker 1>God bless you, and God bless those who who pay

1774
01:46:10.239 --> 01:46:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the ultimate sacrifice so we can enjoy the freedoms that

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01:46:13.840 --> 01:46:19.479
<v Speaker 1>we enjoy. Doug Collins was on Fox News earlier this morning.

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01:46:19.560 --> 01:46:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Dave, do we have that audio? Cut number one? Yeah?

1777
01:46:24.000 --> 01:46:25.319
<v Speaker 2>Can we play that audio real quick?

1778
01:46:25.359 --> 01:46:25.560
<v Speaker 7>Here?

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01:46:26.239 --> 01:46:26.319
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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01:46:26.399 --> 01:46:29.199
<v Speaker 1>Cut number one Doug Collins, the Secretary of Veterans Affairs.

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01:46:30.159 --> 01:46:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Because he summed it up quite nicely, I thought, no, I.

1782
01:46:36.520 --> 01:46:38.600
<v Speaker 6>Did when you think about it until later today, I'll

1783
01:46:38.600 --> 01:46:40.760
<v Speaker 6>be at Arlington, and last night was at the concert.

1784
01:46:40.800 --> 01:46:43.000
<v Speaker 6>When you think about those who gave that ultimate sacrifice,

1785
01:46:43.000 --> 01:46:45.039
<v Speaker 6>when you think about the families who were home, I

1786
01:46:45.079 --> 01:46:46.880
<v Speaker 6>remember being when I was in Iraq and I was

1787
01:46:46.880 --> 01:46:49.199
<v Speaker 6>having to work and we would lose folks in the

1788
01:46:49.199 --> 01:46:51.479
<v Speaker 6>hospital and sending them home. What I was thinking about

1789
01:46:51.520 --> 01:46:54.520
<v Speaker 6>was the families who were now without. So today, on

1790
01:46:54.560 --> 01:46:56.439
<v Speaker 6>this Memorial Day, not only do we remember those who

1791
01:46:56.479 --> 01:46:59.439
<v Speaker 6>gave that last full measure devotion, but remember today as

1792
01:46:59.439 --> 01:47:01.439
<v Speaker 6>you go about life, that there are some who are

1793
01:47:01.479 --> 01:47:03.760
<v Speaker 6>still looking at an empty chair. They're looking at a

1794
01:47:04.079 --> 01:47:05.840
<v Speaker 6>visit or someone that they would pick up the phone

1795
01:47:05.840 --> 01:47:06.319
<v Speaker 6>and talk to.

1796
01:47:06.319 --> 01:47:07.279
<v Speaker 2>That they no longer can.

1797
01:47:07.640 --> 01:47:10.199
<v Speaker 6>It's about those who gave that sacrifice that we remember

1798
01:47:10.239 --> 01:47:12.840
<v Speaker 6>today because our country is built on the shoulders of

1799
01:47:12.880 --> 01:47:14.279
<v Speaker 6>those who gave for us.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can't say it much better than that. Thank

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01:47:17.479 --> 01:47:20.199
<v Speaker 1>you for listening. I'm Dan Carrol. Chick Ludwig is up

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<v Speaker 1>next on the Home of the Red seven hundred WLW