Speaker 1: Breaking down all they says, and ohs, this is.
Speaker 2: I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on.
Speaker 1: Blox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to my I on the Ball
Speaker 3: here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, your
Speaker 3: Dave Silver. You know, now we have some programming changes, Dustin,
Speaker 3: don't preact from the Indianapolis Star.
Speaker 4: It should be calling any moment now.
Speaker 3: He's trying to get on a plane to get back
Speaker 3: home after last night's game. So he'll be on early
Speaker 3: if we can get a hold of him here in
Speaker 3: the next minute or so. He's already changed his flight
Speaker 3: three times, or they changed it on him for three times.
Speaker 4: He's just trying to get from Denver to Indy.
Speaker 3: So he was supposed to go like earlier today early
Speaker 3: this morning, got canceled, and then he was supposed to
Speaker 3: go later tonight and got canceled, and then he got
Speaker 3: canceled again, and then now he's on a flight now
Speaker 3: that leaves in about twenty.
Speaker 5: To get back to Indianapolis. Yea from Oklahoma City from Yeah, well,
Speaker 5: I guess he's in Denver. They went to Denver first.
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, interesting how you can travel like in a triangle.
Speaker 4: To get back.
Speaker 3: Right. Well, I told you I was trying to get
Speaker 3: to Denver right here in a couple of weeks, and
Speaker 3: you know goes direct. You've been there a number of
Speaker 3: times direct. Well on the back is Denver to San
Speaker 3: Diego to hear I thought that one. That's like a
Speaker 3: four hour I've there and coming.
Speaker 5: I've done one of those where I've gone New Orleans
Speaker 5: San Diego to soon Like wait a minute, I just
Speaker 5: flew over my city. Sometimes works that way. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: so you know, it is what it is. I'm hoping
Speaker 5: we get a call from him anytime now. So he's
Speaker 5: covering the NBA Finals or now. Yeah, he's one more
Speaker 5: one or two more games, right, I think he's going
Speaker 5: to go seven. Last night's game was fantastic.
Speaker 3: I said this to Chris because we made this wager, right,
Speaker 3: I thought it would go six for sure, maybe seven,
Speaker 3: because I thought Indianapolis is a pretty damn good team.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: And it's funny because both Math and O'Connell have done
Speaker 3: fantastically well well.
Speaker 5: TJ last night was certainly a key to getting them
Speaker 5: into the game and keeping them there. And then we
Speaker 5: we've been talking kind of off the air about just
Speaker 5: how they took him out. I don't know if it
Speaker 5: was a situation he got tired or whatever. They wanted
Speaker 5: to get their their starter back in. But Halliburton has
Speaker 5: been hurt and didn't do anything offensively really, and TJ,
Speaker 5: you know, had eighteen points and was kind of leading
Speaker 5: the charge in the third quarter at six.
Speaker 4: Had his own little six to zero run at one point.
Speaker 5: So yeah, he's been one of the you know, guys,
Speaker 5: kind of under the radar most of his career anyway,
Speaker 5: but then it's kind of cool that it gets in
Speaker 5: the spotlight in these kind of games.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have no question he was. He has been
Speaker 3: the energizer bunny for that team the last few games.
Speaker 3: It's funny how he is, and he's just he's the
Speaker 3: oldest or he's the oldest or second oldest guy on
Speaker 3: the team, got on the one of the youngest teams.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right out there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, six for eight shooting, they outscored, they outscored the
Speaker 5: Thunder thirty four to twenty eight in that third quarter.
Speaker 4: It was basically TJ leading the way.
Speaker 5: So it was kind of fun to watch that and
Speaker 5: having Richard Jefferson on the call every once in a while.
Speaker 4: He'll slip in a little.
Speaker 5: U of a reference between TJ and Benedict.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to have him text us to call us,
Speaker 3: okay five two oh, don't give him the number.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, Hi.
Speaker 3: I'm telling him, not his number, but us our number
Speaker 3: to four one six seventy four four zero old to
Speaker 3: see if he says what he says, Okay, cool. We
Speaker 3: can have him on as long as we as long
Speaker 3: as we can because he's just waiting for that that airplane.
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens anything else.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, he's just following the news of this
Speaker 5: whole coaching situation with the u of a. You know,
Speaker 5: Michael lev of course has been on top of it,
Speaker 5: as is Brian Peterson, and they're already talking about who
Speaker 5: they're going to get in. Maybe a Nathan Banister was
Speaker 5: a guy that played here a number of years ago,
Speaker 5: and he's been coaching that.
Speaker 4: He was a pitcher.
Speaker 5: He's been the pitching coach at Grand Canyon, So that
Speaker 5: could be a name to the CHIP might consider or
Speaker 5: whoever makes that call. He was on the twenty sixteen
Speaker 5: Arizona team that made it to the College Series Championship.
Speaker 5: It's already in seven years or no, what am I saying?
Speaker 4: Nine years? Nine years?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's got to be about thirty, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's probably forty thirty, thirty one young?
Speaker 4: You feel old?
Speaker 3: These guys are so they're they're little kids, I know,
Speaker 3: do you feel old? Because and thirty is not young anymore?
Speaker 3: Because you know the guy the coach that's going to
Speaker 3: San Diego State, there's thirty four.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like Josh. Josh is no longer a
Speaker 3: young kid too. I think he's like forty four Josh Passner.
Speaker 5: Yeah, at Vegas, so you know, yeah, I mean all
Speaker 5: the announcements are coming from him, from Kevin Vance going
Speaker 5: to STSU. Even the Mountain West Conference has it on
Speaker 5: their website. Now to Torry Pines High guy, Yeah, it's
Speaker 5: you go home?
Speaker 4: You know, of course you go home. What's home for you?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, so Tony gwinn Well, home was basically
Speaker 5: San Jose.
Speaker 4: Oh would you go home.
Speaker 5: If I got a TV job back in the day,
Speaker 5: of course?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 4: Yeah? But did you go home now? No, because everyone's
Speaker 4: gone left.
Speaker 3: I felt that too when I went home for my
Speaker 3: anniversary reunion. I love my home, but no, it's over.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he's only the guy.
Speaker 5: He's only the seventh head baseball coach. I remember there
Speaker 5: was a guy NA named Jim Deetz who was the
Speaker 5: coach back and then like Bud Black who has gone
Speaker 5: on to become a manager and been fired a few times,
Speaker 5: he was there, Tony Stephen Strasbourg, Tony Quinn, Tony Gwinn junior.
Speaker 4: I mean a lot of guys played junior coach there too.
Speaker 4: He played well, he played there. If he goes yeah,
Speaker 4: so we'll see.
Speaker 3: Arizona is one of those programs that will rebuild and
Speaker 3: find a guy and be okay. But pitching had been
Speaker 3: the key ingredient that they had lacked right up until
Speaker 3: the last couple of years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, they brought in all these guys.
Speaker 5: They basically switched out the pitching staff this this year
Speaker 5: from last year's and here they are, you know, making
Speaker 5: the College World Series and then most of them are
Speaker 5: going to probably be coming back there. Everyone's saying that's
Speaker 5: going to be the strong suit for next year's team
Speaker 5: is that most of the pictures are still going to
Speaker 5: be around.
Speaker 4: So yeah, except for except for the stopper.
Speaker 5: Well maybe he's he can come back. He wants to.
Speaker 5: He's I mean, I think he's eligible and they're not.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure about his draft status.
Speaker 4: Oh, if you playing, if you can play it again?
Speaker 4: Why not? Yeah, we get a little n I L.
Speaker 4: I don't know what the n I L is in baseball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's yeah. We talked about this little yesterday. Who
Speaker 3: was here, Oh Troy, and they were talking like if
Speaker 3: not more goes goes to the football program, and then
Speaker 3: the rest kind of cannibalize that.
Speaker 4: That's nothing, right, that's nothing. We've got to call.
Speaker 3: I think this might be him. Hello, you're on the
Speaker 3: air and one of the ball who's this?
Speaker 8: Hey, it's justin to Pure Star Dustin.
Speaker 4: How are you?
Speaker 3: Thanks for man, I'll be messing with you on that flight.
Speaker 4: Yes they are.
Speaker 9: Now it's pushed back and it's leaving at six eighteen
Speaker 9: and so oh so we're good.
Speaker 8: We're good.
Speaker 4: Okay, cool, cool, cool?
Speaker 5: Now you're doing Oklahoma City to Denver then to Indianapolis.
Speaker 9: Yes, that's what it was. We got stuck. We've gotten
Speaker 9: stuck in Denver.
Speaker 3: Is the issue Helen Nuggets doing?
Speaker 4: They're not here right? Right?
Speaker 3: So tell us we want we have so many questions
Speaker 3: for you got and one of the reasons we met
Speaker 3: you before was you were here for the TJ. McConnell
Speaker 3: stuff a few months ago. Uh, what's going on with
Speaker 3: the rotation that Carlisle has with him?
Speaker 9: Well?
Speaker 8: He, I mean that's basically what it's been the whole year.
Speaker 9: I mean, I think it's and obviously understandable when Tyrus
Speaker 9: Haliburton is having as bad at the day as he did,
Speaker 9: certainly with the calf uh and what Notamy McConnell has
Speaker 9: basically the way he played that the minutes he played
Speaker 9: yesterday are pretty similar to what he's played all year,
Speaker 9: which he's just a backup point guard, which generally means
Speaker 9: he comes in late, you know, mid to late first
Speaker 9: quarter and stays into the mid mid to late second quarter,
Speaker 9: comes in mid to late third quarter, stays in the
Speaker 9: mid late mid to late fourth quarter, and basically it's
Speaker 9: sort of you know, starters end up taking three shifts,
Speaker 9: backups end up taking two shifts more or less, and
Speaker 9: you're basically expected, because you're gonna kind of go across.
Speaker 8: The quarter, to just go all out for two periods.
Speaker 9: So if you're gonna mess with that rotation and mess
Speaker 9: with the usual assignments, you know, it changes.
Speaker 8: Up the rhythm a little bit.
Speaker 9: And so part of the reason why McConnell's effective he
Speaker 9: is in that is he's going max effort, expecting not
Speaker 9: to come out or not to go back in after
Speaker 9: he comes back out in the fourth quarter. Basically when
Speaker 9: he goes in there, expecting to just spill it that
Speaker 9: entire time.
Speaker 8: So it obviously looks a little bit.
Speaker 9: Weird when he's, you know, basically the second or third
Speaker 9: most effective player.
Speaker 8: So I understand why everybody's a little bit but not sure.
Speaker 9: But still that's the reason why is that that's just
Speaker 9: that's the shift that he's used to and.
Speaker 4: He's done very well with it.
Speaker 3: This may be a dumb question because you've covered him
Speaker 3: for a while now, but it would lead me to
Speaker 3: believe that he's one of the better interviews, more accessible,
Speaker 3: great stories.
Speaker 8: McConnell.
Speaker 9: Yes, absolutely, I mean he's just i mean, super intelligent guy,
Speaker 9: you know, obviously been.
Speaker 8: In the league for ten years, certainly has a great story.
Speaker 8: I mean, he's one of those guys that that.
Speaker 9: You can point to at you know, for a player
Speaker 9: at any level and say, see this is this is
Speaker 9: an example. I mean This is the sort of guy
Speaker 9: who made it despite being u as small as he is,
Speaker 9: as short as he is, uh, and a guy that
Speaker 9: just just works, you know, as hard as he'll get
Speaker 9: out to get there. But you know, I mean he's
Speaker 9: he's not only a coach's son, but a coach's nephew.
Speaker 9: Uh and everything else. I mean, he obviously grew up,
Speaker 9: you know, in the game. Basically he's so uh, you know,
Speaker 9: he's basketball royalty in Pittsburgh. I mean just they are,
Speaker 9: you know, basically, you know, his aunts is really the
Speaker 9: most decorated player in the family. Still, she's an Olympian.
Speaker 9: Susan mcconnells. Cerio is one of the one of the
Speaker 9: truly great players in the eighties and nineties and has
Speaker 9: gone on to become a great coach at several levels.
Speaker 9: She coached the WNBA, she coached at you know, the
Speaker 9: college level.
Speaker 8: She's a high school coach. Again, She's won state championships
Speaker 8: as a high school coach.
Speaker 9: Uh, and they've accomplished so much so it makes him
Speaker 9: obviously very good at.
Speaker 8: Dealing with media. Uh. You know, he's hilarious. He's a
Speaker 8: you know, a bit you know, he's he's a bit
Speaker 8: of a you know, wise cracker.
Speaker 9: Basically, he's been getting on me all week because I
Speaker 9: had to miss the first two games of the series
Speaker 9: for a wedding, and he is just he has just
Speaker 9: been berating me the entire time for this. At every
Speaker 9: time on my show up he's like, oh, welcome to
Speaker 9: Oklahoma City.
Speaker 8: Finally make it. Thanks TJ.
Speaker 9: I appreciate it, but just uh, he's been a fun
Speaker 9: out of cover.
Speaker 4: So justin I'll borrate you too. Was it your wedding
Speaker 4: or somebody else's?
Speaker 9: It was my wife's best friends well in the speech,
Speaker 9: so I would have been in some serious trouble.
Speaker 5: There was a great TV moment you probably saw, you know,
Speaker 5: the highlights of I don't know if you saw when
Speaker 5: it was actually happening with the family. I guess maybe
Speaker 5: he's after one of the games in Indianapolis with you know,
Speaker 5: Grandpa's there and you know every the dad's there and
Speaker 5: then was it Sam came over and took pictures.
Speaker 4: I mean it was.
Speaker 5: It was a good TJ moment for us here to
Speaker 5: watch this movie.
Speaker 9: Absolutely, yeah, no, I know I didn't. We talked to
Speaker 9: TJ a little bit about that. After he doesn't get
Speaker 9: to get the many games. Obviously he's aging, you know,
Speaker 9: I mean TJ's thirty three, so you can imagine how old.
Speaker 9: You know, his grandfather certainly is up there in h
Speaker 9: and and so it just you know, it doesn't get
Speaker 9: to travel very much. But it was nice that he
Speaker 9: got to be there and see, uh the NBA Finals,
Speaker 9: and he just said, that's just something that's uh, you know,
Speaker 9: a very very very big deal for him.
Speaker 3: You know, when you came here in December, I think
Speaker 3: it was, I think it was December, maybe early January. Uh,
Speaker 3: it's no surprise to me when when they got the finals,
Speaker 3: I said, this team is kind of spunky and in
Speaker 3: pesky and just a pain in the ass. They're gonna
Speaker 3: give Oklahoma City a pretty good run. But I said,
Speaker 3: you know, teams that go or did what they did
Speaker 3: for TJ. When they came here and physically came here,
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, the chemistry and this team must be fantastic.
Speaker 9: Yeah, no, it absolutely is. And and they've they've built
Speaker 9: that over three years. But I mean, to your point,
Speaker 9: uh Rick Carlisle has done a great job of just
Speaker 9: fostering that kind of team building. I mean, basically he's
Speaker 9: kind of made made a point to make sure everybody's
Speaker 9: celebrating everybody's milestones and everybody's involved in that.
Speaker 8: And it goes down to like, you know, they.
Speaker 9: Sing Happy Birthday for staffers basically like after practice, if
Speaker 9: it's somebody's birthday, uh, the rookies have to sing to them.
Speaker 9: And so there's they they gather at half court and
Speaker 9: do stuff like that. You know last year before you know,
Speaker 9: before it was McConnell for his Ring of Honor ceremony,
Speaker 9: they did it for Benanic Maffew last year, you know
Speaker 9: when he was uh made it for being I think
Speaker 9: I think it was for being either an All American
Speaker 9: or being Packed twelve Player of the Year.
Speaker 8: You know, that's the two reasons.
Speaker 9: And even when when Masman was inducted, I mean, they said,
Speaker 9: we're going to be back next year for TJ and
Speaker 9: so they you know, basically signed up to do that
Speaker 9: and made sure, okay, yea, everybody's gonna be there, but
Speaker 9: it's gonna make this trip. And you know, they do
Speaker 9: stuff like that for each other and and you know,
Speaker 9: some of that is really pushed by Carlisle, but you know,
Speaker 9: some of that the stuff they enjoy doing on their
Speaker 9: own I mean they.
Speaker 8: Really go out of the way for each other. They
Speaker 8: go out of the way for other people.
Speaker 9: I mean a lot of these guys will make a
Speaker 9: point to go to Indiana Fever games or even to
Speaker 9: see the G League team and see those guys and
Speaker 9: cheer them on. It's it's a really big piece of
Speaker 9: that and that's that's helped them develop a lot of
Speaker 9: chemistry over the last two years.
Speaker 8: And that's made in the team that they are.
Speaker 9: I mean, they are pesky, they are pain and that
Speaker 9: comes from being a team that's willing to exhaust you,
Speaker 9: that goes at you the entire time, and and is
Speaker 9: willing to play different roles and for guys to be
Speaker 9: willing maybe if they don't, if they only come off
Speaker 9: the bench, they only play fifteen, ten, you know, twenty
Speaker 9: minutes to go all out, and that that's a big
Speaker 9: reason why they are where they are.
Speaker 5: You know too, Rick Carlisle had those years with the
Speaker 5: Celtics bec what in the eighties they were kind of
Speaker 5: like that team too. They were, you know, a bunch
Speaker 5: of I mean a couple of superstars, a couple of
Speaker 5: role players, but just the legendary Celtic name on your
Speaker 5: Jersey was a big deal. How much of that you
Speaker 5: think carries over to what he's been doing as a
Speaker 5: head coach and he's been there a long time.
Speaker 8: No good but a good amount.
Speaker 9: I mean, I think I taught I did a story
Speaker 9: on Rick earlier in these playoffs just about his offense,
Speaker 9: you know, basically just the way he's changed offensively.
Speaker 8: And wait, he's kind of embraced.
Speaker 9: This idea of it being randomized movement, of not calling
Speaker 9: a lot of plays and not necessarily running a lot
Speaker 9: of plays. I mean, you know, obviously Halliburton has the
Speaker 9: opportunity to call plays, but in a lot of cases
Speaker 9: it's not even plays.
Speaker 8: It's randomized movement.
Speaker 9: It's just running a pick and roll or just you know,
Speaker 9: kind of doing sort of basic stuff but being unpredictable
Speaker 9: so that somebody can't diagnose what you're doing in the moment.
Speaker 9: You're just kind of problem solving and playing off with
Speaker 9: each other.
Speaker 8: And I asked him, what made you trust.
Speaker 9: That, because I mean he used to be a guy
Speaker 9: that called a lot of stuff and was very, very
Speaker 9: very hands on.
Speaker 8: He said, you know, it was playing with the eighties Celtics.
Speaker 9: It was, you know, being around a guy a lot
Speaker 9: of guys that were just high level basketball minds and
Speaker 9: trusting them to just play through things and just just flow.
Speaker 9: And he said, like I I developed that from there,
Speaker 9: and and you know, I have a couple of guys
Speaker 9: on this team that I trust to be those kinds
Speaker 9: of players.
Speaker 8: And you know, just seeing knowing that he could work.
Speaker 9: I mean, I think Rick has really come a long
Speaker 9: way in terms of being able to just just flat
Speaker 9: trust guys and be willing to delegate, you know what
Speaker 9: within his.
Speaker 8: Coaching staff, but with within his team.
Speaker 9: And and then I think has created the style of
Speaker 9: play that they have. I mean, like he he obviously
Speaker 9: still is capable of drawing something up in the dirt,
Speaker 9: you know, at a at a moment's notice and making adjustments,
Speaker 9: and a lot of what they're doing is him. And
Speaker 9: you know he does put his thumb on the scale
Speaker 9: when he has to, but he also just trusts his guys.
Speaker 9: It's a big reason why you know, Haliburton hits that
Speaker 9: game winner in Game one. He doesn't call a timeout,
Speaker 9: he doesn't call a play to advance the ball. Uh,
Speaker 9: he just believes in those guys to kind of play
Speaker 9: through it and that it's going to be harder to
Speaker 9: cut for them if you don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 4: Does this say your last name?
Speaker 2: Please?
Speaker 8: Do?
Speaker 3: Pierre ac do pierrek Okay talking to Dustin Doe Perk
Speaker 3: from the Indianapolis Star. So before we get to Mathron,
Speaker 3: there's another coach out there that struck me, and then
Speaker 3: Dave sent me some information. Is the assistant coach, right,
Speaker 3: Jenny Bosik?
Speaker 4: Is it right?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Busick? Just to me.
Speaker 3: She's calling place too, and I'm thinking, who is this
Speaker 3: woman has this impact because she sits right.
Speaker 4: Next to TJ.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 9: No, absolutely, I mean, the the the whole entire staff
Speaker 9: has a lot of authority.
Speaker 8: I mean basically a lot is invested in each of
Speaker 8: them with us.
Speaker 9: Jenny Busak or Mike Winer or Lloyd Pierce or Jim
Speaker 9: Boyle and you know Engineera Parkrom and all of those
Speaker 9: folks have a lot of input, but Jenny does especially
Speaker 9: Obviously it stands out that she's a woman. But I mean, like,
Speaker 9: you know, Rick believes that she can be the first
Speaker 9: you know, female head coach in the NBA, or or
Speaker 9: she can be you know, she was high up in
Speaker 9: in UH and in the women's ranks in w n
Speaker 9: b A and believes that he could do that again.
Speaker 9: She's she's made a huge impact. He's been a big
Speaker 9: part of really re you.
Speaker 8: Know, kind of reconsidering their defense.
Speaker 9: I mean, obviously last year, toward the beginning of last year,
Speaker 9: they were one of the worst defenses in the NBA
Speaker 9: and they were just trying to outscore people. And they've
Speaker 9: made just dramatic steps over the last two years to
Speaker 9: become a middle of the pack defense and really over
Speaker 9: the last three months they were a top ten defense.
Speaker 9: She's had a lot to do with that. She has
Speaker 9: a lot to do with their skill development. Works a
Speaker 9: lot with those guys they're shooting DJ in particular, she's
Speaker 9: worked worked very closely on TJ's.
Speaker 8: Shot, and obviously TJ's outshot.
Speaker 9: Shot is not a big is not a huge piece
Speaker 9: of his game, but he's tried to make sure that
Speaker 9: if you're going to go under on him or you're
Speaker 9: just going to not cover him from three, but he's
Speaker 9: able to take advantage of that. He's become better and
Speaker 9: better as time has gone on. I think he's shooting
Speaker 9: really well in these playoffs and those opportunities, again doesn't
Speaker 9: take a lot of them, but I mean, he just
Speaker 9: wants to make sure that he takes the advantage of
Speaker 9: the opportunity when it's there.
Speaker 8: Andrew Nemhar is another person.
Speaker 9: She's worked very very closely, with a ton of respect
Speaker 9: on that staff for her and what she's done, and
Speaker 9: she's made a really big impact. I mean, she's somebody
Speaker 9: that it's just again, she's always right in the front
Speaker 9: of the line and if there's something going down, if
Speaker 9: there's kind of fisticus or whatever, she generally is there
Speaker 9: to kind of get it in there separate and she's
Speaker 9: very good at just connecting with the players.
Speaker 8: Developed just terrific relationships with those guys.
Speaker 5: Did it take the guys a bit just to be
Speaker 5: accustomed to having a women's coach.
Speaker 8: Like that, Not that I know of.
Speaker 9: I mean, obviously I wasn't there when she was hired,
Speaker 9: so I've only I think she came over with with
Speaker 9: Rick and so I've been only been around since she's
Speaker 9: been on staff, so I haven't had to watch that.
Speaker 9: But I think there have been a lot of these
Speaker 9: guys are very easily coachable by women, honestly, and again,
Speaker 9: like I said about TJ, I mean, you know, like
Speaker 9: like nobody needs to tell TJ McConnell the women's can
Speaker 9: coach basketball. Nobody needs to tell him that at all.
Speaker 9: And but you know, I mean, Andrew Mamhart is really
Speaker 9: taken to her very easily. Tyree Salibert is somebody it's
Speaker 9: got a lot of respect for the women's game.
Speaker 8: You know, his dad was a girl's coach when he was.
Speaker 9: Growing up, so you know, And and it's just a
Speaker 9: good personality of guys.
Speaker 8: I mean, there's not a lot of you.
Speaker 9: Know, it's not that you know, I mean, they they
Speaker 9: are guys, but you know, it's not there's not so
Speaker 9: much for cheese moo that they're not willing to listen
Speaker 9: to women. They understand that, you know, women can really
Speaker 9: play this game too, and therefore they can really coach
Speaker 9: this game.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 9: So you see a ton of respect on their side,
Speaker 9: not only for for Jenny, but just other Uh you know,
Speaker 9: women on staff in different roles, whether it's the nutritionists
Speaker 9: or the massage therapists or just anybody else that hasn't
Speaker 9: or the trainers or anybody that has an impact, uh,
Speaker 9: you know, basically in.
Speaker 8: The women's game.
Speaker 9: And again, like I said, they they make a point
Speaker 9: to get over to watch the Indiana Fever when they can't.
Speaker 9: So it's a it's a group that is very respectful
Speaker 9: of the role that women have taken in basketball in
Speaker 9: this day and age.
Speaker 4: Well. TJ's sister, right, Phoenix Mercury.
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: So let's talk about Benedict real quick, because he had
Speaker 3: a fantastic Game three.
Speaker 4: I think it was. What's his situation, Yeah.
Speaker 9: I mean, obviously had a tough end in Game four
Speaker 9: and not a great game in Game five, but obviously
Speaker 9: Game three was terrific. Certainly you have been a lot
Speaker 9: of up and down for him, simply because you know,
Speaker 9: he's he's probably one of the most talented one on
Speaker 9: one scores that they have, maybe that maybe the second
Speaker 9: or third. Obviously, I think he's you know, you know,
Speaker 9: going back to his rookie year, he was one of
Speaker 9: the highest scoring rookies in Pacers history and is the
Speaker 9: third leading scorer in his draft class. But he's not
Speaker 9: an easy fit with the style of play that they have,
Speaker 9: and it's just so much about the ball popping around,
Speaker 9: and he's more comfortable as an isolation guy that's going
Speaker 9: to break you down off the dribble and try to
Speaker 9: go at you one on one and he's.
Speaker 8: Really trying to had to hone off a lot of edges.
Speaker 9: To make it work, and he's made a lot of progress,
Speaker 9: but they've you know, Aaron E. Smith and Andrew Demhard
Speaker 9: are just more easy fits at those two wings positions,
Speaker 9: so he's moved in and out of the starting lineup.
Speaker 8: But again, he has had some really.
Speaker 9: Big performances in these playoffs when he's been called upon,
Speaker 9: you know, had a couple of twenty plus point outings
Speaker 9: and shows that he could still make a really impact
Speaker 9: and so it can still make an impact in the series. Obviously,
Speaker 9: is coming up to some decision points in his career.
Speaker 8: He's going to be at extension eligible this year.
Speaker 9: You know, next year he'll be eligible for free agency
Speaker 9: if he doesn't sign an extension, So they're gonna have
Speaker 9: to make some tough decisions going forward in terms of
Speaker 9: where that's going to go. But they still are pleased
Speaker 9: with a lot of the progress that he's made over time.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be some prize if you guys go back
Speaker 3: one more time to Oklahoma City, because, like I say,
Speaker 3: the Pacers are feisty and they're still talented. We'll see
Speaker 3: what happens with the diagnosis with the MRI.
Speaker 9: Yeah, no, absolutely, that's a big piece for Tyres with
Speaker 9: the with the calf, you know, apparently it's the calf
Speaker 9: strained reported.
Speaker 8: So you know, we'll see how serious that is. And
Speaker 8: the tough part is is that, you know, maybe he
Speaker 8: could play a calf strain through a capturing. Maybe he can't.
Speaker 9: But obviously we've seen an NBA Finals when the cashtrain
Speaker 9: has turned in to something much much worse over the
Speaker 9: course of trying to play through it. So it's definitely
Speaker 9: something you want to be cautious with because if something
Speaker 9: goes wrong, that's the type of thing that.
Speaker 8: Costs you a year.
Speaker 9: So we see where what they find out, you know,
Speaker 9: when they look at that, if they see it's something
Speaker 9: that they need to be more careful with, or if
Speaker 9: he's able to play through it and obviously not going
Speaker 9: to Uh, we'll see when we find out about that
Speaker 9: and when that information is going to come through.
Speaker 4: Well, dustin safe travels. Hope you get on a plane
Speaker 4: at some point.
Speaker 8: Here's hoping as well.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Li said, good luck, We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 8: Appreciate you, thank you so much, thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was just no Brick from the Indianapolis Star
Speaker 3: covering the Pacers and Kareem DJ and Benedict.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good. There's always seems to be a wildcat
Speaker 5: in the NBA finals. I don't know how many years.
Speaker 3: Everyone w't talk about eleven straight years?
Speaker 4: Pretty amazing. Is any other college.
Speaker 8: Able to do?
Speaker 3: No, they did all that research, Sure they did no
Speaker 3: final fours in ladles the last seven years.
Speaker 4: Sorry, got to go with this. We're way over, but
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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to my on the ball here on
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Speaker 3: That was cool talking to Dustin from the Indian start. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just to get update on what was going on
Speaker 3: in that rotation that they were using.
Speaker 5: Me, which makes a lot of sense when you figure
Speaker 5: he is the backup point guard and you know, as
Speaker 5: a viewer somebody, you know, maybe rooting for Indiana, you're wondering, why.
Speaker 4: Is he still on the car right right? So well,
Speaker 4: but he kind of explained it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is the rotation how it works when you're
Speaker 5: when you're the second guy and you come in for
Speaker 5: a few minutes and you know, give the starters a break.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no question.
Speaker 3: So good that. We'll see what happens here. The game
Speaker 3: six is on Thursday night. Try to see if they
Speaker 3: get it back to game seven probably Saturday or Sunday, right,
Speaker 3: probably Sunday Sunday. And yeah, they have like five weeks
Speaker 3: between games, so it feels like that way. Anybody want
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Speaker 3: Talk about the Pacers, talk about you a baseball, basketball, whatever, recruiting.
Speaker 5: About recruiting, how much I hate it. Yeah, it's kind
Speaker 5: of tough to cover from our standpoint.
Speaker 4: Yeah, nowadays.
Speaker 3: The good thing is, you know, back when I did
Speaker 3: it back and I feel like I'm one hundred years old.
Speaker 3: We call the kids, right, if they pick up the phone,
Speaker 3: you're good. If they didn't, well you didn't have a
Speaker 3: story until you know, and then you're hoping that your
Speaker 3: your competition didn't have the story. Whatever. Peace, if you
Speaker 3: make a decision, call me the first to call. Please, please.
Speaker 4: And then now they just break themselves on the interw
Speaker 4: with or own thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I mean, I think as much as
Speaker 5: we don't maybe like to talk about it, but I
Speaker 5: think it would be pretty interesting if they do get
Speaker 5: this quarterback who he's the only quarterback in the class. Right,
Speaker 5: he's from Downey, California, And again he's gonna choose between
Speaker 5: Arizona and UCLA. He's gonna make his announce his announcement
Speaker 5: on June twenty seven, so we have what like ten
Speaker 5: days to worry about this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but good junior year. I mean he was.
Speaker 5: He's ranked tenth in the country, tenth best quarterback in
Speaker 5: the country. He's currently at the Elite eleven quarterback camp
Speaker 5: in Los Angeles, so he's doing that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: Twenty three and seven record over three years, he completed,
Speaker 5: he threw, he's film fifty three touchdown passes. I mean, again,
Speaker 5: these statistics, who knows what they really mean. But the
Speaker 5: coaches see the potential and they get to watch the
Speaker 5: game film and they all that kind of stuff. But
Speaker 5: he would become the second Southern California quarterback to maybe
Speaker 5: be a U of a QB after Noah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, see, we had Noah on yesterday. It was a
Speaker 3: pretty good interview just because of who he is. And
Speaker 3: one of the things I said to him is, you
Speaker 3: know the coaches rave about him, rave about his leadership, well,
Speaker 3: rave about his demeanor, wave about his present and I
Speaker 3: can't remember and maybe you can help me with his
Speaker 3: Dave another player where coaches just rave about a player,
Speaker 3: not so much as athletic ability and once he did
Speaker 3: on the court, you know, like like Richard can jump
Speaker 3: and do all these things with Gilbert blah blah blah,
Speaker 3: but raved about him as a person. Yeah, And I said,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe Steve Kerr. I didn't cover Steve Kurr
Speaker 3: back in the day, but you can just sense that
Speaker 3: that was the case. And you remember a guy just
Speaker 3: being raved about like that.
Speaker 5: Especially at the collegiate level too, where you know they're
Speaker 5: still young. Yeah, you know, maybe are they even maybe
Speaker 5: you know, Teddy Bruski would become a better leader once
Speaker 5: he you know, gets to twenty five and yeah, he
Speaker 5: is playing a few years in the NFL, but leadership
Speaker 5: might be kind of tough for some of these kids. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they're coming out of high school, they're the big man
Speaker 5: on campus. They come to college and you know, maybe
Speaker 5: they don't really know too much about out leadership. But obviously, Noah,
Speaker 5: you could just tell the way the way the coach
Speaker 5: has felt about him.
Speaker 3: And the players and the players he's like the pipe
Speaker 3: piper this team. I mean, I felt this and I
Speaker 3: said this again yesterday. I've said it since he showed
Speaker 3: up against Stanford and took over for Delora that and
Speaker 3: I was criticized for it by a couple of people
Speaker 3: that he showed up and the guys played harder for him.
Speaker 5: Well, I think, you know, he sent a message too
Speaker 5: coming back. You know a lot of guys did not
Speaker 5: come back, and you know, I think a lot of
Speaker 5: people maybe felt players were abandoning the program. Well, here
Speaker 5: he was where he could have left, I'm sure, and
Speaker 5: probably had offers team elsewhere like Tam Mac and those
Speaker 5: two guys, you know, as a team as a pair,
Speaker 5: you know, showed some bravery I guess, and came back
Speaker 5: and you know it's gonna pay off for Team AC
Speaker 5: for sure. I don't know about Noah's professional career, but
Speaker 5: maybe he'll become a.
Speaker 4: Coach or something like that.
Speaker 3: Sure, and who knows, you from these guys, maybe he
Speaker 3: could find a way because if he has that leadership quality,
Speaker 3: find a spot to be on a roster or whatever.
Speaker 3: You know, I wouldn't understate him or underestimate him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I mean there's a few other avenues to
Speaker 5: get to professional football too, whether it's even you know,
Speaker 5: Canada or these other spring leagues that are popping up
Speaker 5: and indoor football things like that.
Speaker 4: There could be a chance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and don't and don't cry for don't cry for No,
Speaker 3: he's going to be making some coin on this revenue
Speaker 3: show type of thing.
Speaker 4: Nil thing. So the kids are doing all right.
Speaker 3: So anybody who missed that interview yesterday, you can go
Speaker 3: to the iHeart podcast and findance his iHeartMedia, uh and
Speaker 3: search iHeartMedia and iron the ball. He'll find it from yesterday.
Speaker 3: It was a good, good one.
Speaker 5: I thought, is he pretty optimistic about this coming season?
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's now here with the guys doing the workouts
Speaker 3: individual that individual but you know, the guys workouts for
Speaker 3: the no coaches, and we talked about that being you know,
Speaker 3: this is the chemistry building portion of their careers where
Speaker 3: you can go out and compe with each other or
Speaker 3: the patterns and the timing.
Speaker 4: And all that stuff. But losing his number one receivers.
Speaker 4: I brought that story, Uh.
Speaker 3: I brought that conversation up that he had to find
Speaker 3: his other right hand man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there are a few.
Speaker 3: There are a few, he says, yeah. No, we're working
Speaker 3: on that now and we'll see what happened.
Speaker 5: I mean, there's gonna have to be somebody. I mean,
Speaker 5: really it's it's the offense. And then yeah, he'll have
Speaker 5: to find, you know, maybe a favorite target or someone's
Speaker 5: gonna step up in the spring and the fall workouts
Speaker 5: to be that number one receiver for him.
Speaker 3: So I see, yeah, no question. There was also something
Speaker 3: I wanted to bring up. I can't remember now, football, basketball, baseball.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a quiet summer, right. We're almost like
Speaker 3: the middle of the middle of June. We are past
Speaker 3: the middle of June, almost the middle of sir.
Speaker 5: Now, are we officially done? Everything's over all the track
Speaker 5: and field's done.
Speaker 4: As far as you know. So that's it. Bered Harvey's done.
Speaker 4: Off we go into the summertime. Yeah. Yeah, it was interesting.
Speaker 3: I watched some of the track over the weekend and
Speaker 3: all the programs, how strong they are. You know, that's
Speaker 3: another sport that you have to be really, really really good.
Speaker 5: I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think we have
Speaker 5: the big twelve championships here next year.
Speaker 4: Wherever you know the track field.
Speaker 3: Really it seems like it wouldn't be big enough for
Speaker 3: Oh no, well, we had packed twelve championships here A
Speaker 3: couple of times.
Speaker 4: I tell you how many times I've done that yeah, so,
Speaker 4: I mean that was a pretty good league. Obviously.
Speaker 5: I don't know, of course, I don't know how great
Speaker 5: the Big twelve is, but I'm sure it's not the
Speaker 5: caliber of the Pack twelve.
Speaker 3: Yeah okay, yeah, I didn't know that and an attended one,
Speaker 3: although Arizona has a history of a pretty good, strong
Speaker 3: history of strong track athletes.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: The NBA Draft is next week too, and I yeah,
Speaker 5: some of the some of the mock drafts and stuff
Speaker 5: like that. Again, those are take those for what they're worth.
Speaker 3: But are you in Thursday? Yeah, okay, maybe we'll try to.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to try to find Carter. No, Caleb, Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: try to get him on we go ahead.
Speaker 5: So Carter, yes, panic, Carter in the top ten. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and they're saying he's probably going to be like nine
Speaker 5: to fifteen, one of those picks depends on which team
Speaker 5: is up and what they need.
Speaker 4: Sure, he's he's going to be in a good spot.
Speaker 4: So you had no question, in fact, probably take a
Speaker 4: pay cut. No, he's no.
Speaker 3: Question, And that's all the potential right to see what
Speaker 3: so to see what he has because he didn't score
Speaker 3: what six points? I think you're right. I don't even
Speaker 3: know the rebounds, but impactful when he was in there.
Speaker 5: It's going to be you know, he's got he's what
Speaker 5: is he nineteen eighteen?
Speaker 4: He's a kid, you know. Let's see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's what the NBA is that we talk
Speaker 3: about Indianapolis and Oklahoma the two youngest teams out there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's to say, was it Dylan was just
Speaker 5: talking about.
Speaker 4: Dustin was just talking about to.
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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to my on the Ball here on
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Speaker 3: You got about I don't know twelve minutes, eleven minutes.
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Speaker 5: It is really cool how so many UFA players wind
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Speaker 4: Steve, Hi, Dave?
Speaker 6: This is done. Hi, guys doing what's the word?
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Speaker 6: Oh Man, bad news today? I guess Kevin Van's got
Speaker 6: a head coaching job at San Diego State, so we
Speaker 6: got to find us a new pitching coach.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, we've been talking about that, guys. I think
Speaker 3: an impact.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know, I think Chip is pretty well connected,
Speaker 6: so you know it is. I mean it's a good thing.
Speaker 6: I mean he's he hired a good dude that's able
Speaker 6: to get himself to a head coaching job. So now
Speaker 6: he's just got to go find another one. Yeah, there's
Speaker 6: a lot of guys out there.
Speaker 5: One of the names we're seeing is Nathan Banister, who
Speaker 5: just pitched here, you know, in the last decade. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: so he could be on his way back. Possibly he's
Speaker 5: been coaching a Grand Canyon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's true.
Speaker 6: That would be a step up and then maybe somebody
Speaker 6: that might stick around.
Speaker 4: A little while. And Grant Cannon has owned Arizona.
Speaker 6: That true, Well, they played that game. They played the
Speaker 6: games against Arizona with purpose, and and and and Chip
Speaker 6: has been playing those games to get guys innings, you know, uh,
Speaker 6: position players and pictures and so. But you know, it
Speaker 6: is what it is. But I did want to I
Speaker 6: did want to tell you a recruiting story because how
Speaker 6: you were saying about how terrible the whole process is.
Speaker 6: Years and years ago, Cherokee Parks chose Duke over Arizona
Speaker 6: and others. And I had a guy ask me. He goes, well,
Speaker 6: what's Arizona going to do? You know Parks is going
Speaker 6: to Duke. They go, well, I think I heard Luke
Speaker 6: said he was going to just cancel the season.
Speaker 3: Right right, because he do that a lot, and say that,
Speaker 3: oh the world is going to end.
Speaker 4: And who did Arizona instead?
Speaker 5: We must I'm sure Arizona got somebody just as good,
Speaker 5: if not better.
Speaker 3: What year was, Well, would you look at it just
Speaker 3: when he came out the year that he came out.
Speaker 4: But go ahead, done, we'll find the information.
Speaker 6: Cherokee Parks would have been very early nineties, like ninety two,
Speaker 6: ninety three, my.
Speaker 3: First years, So that would have been like kind of
Speaker 3: Sean Rooks was already here. God, Chris Mills was already here.
Speaker 3: Man Raos, well back.
Speaker 6: In those days, when did when did Arizona not have
Speaker 6: any players?
Speaker 4: No, no, you're you're exactly right. Here's done.
Speaker 3: And this is even better because he didn't go after
Speaker 3: all the five star guys, so ninety one, so it
Speaker 3: must have been right before I took.
Speaker 4: Ninety one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was kind of Kevin flannagain that group,
Speaker 3: you know, but you're right done. It didn't matter. He
Speaker 3: was going to find well.
Speaker 6: And then and at that time, you know, well, Lulut
Speaker 6: is a coach, a teaching coach, was a teaching coach,
Speaker 6: so he got guys that could fit whatever it was
Speaker 6: he wanted to do. And at that time and then
Speaker 6: he was able to change because we went from the
Speaker 6: Tucson Skyline when we had Stokes, Rooks and Williams, and
Speaker 6: then he got smaller and was able to coach that.
Speaker 6: And there was there was a time I remember I
Speaker 6: read an articles and interview with Sean Elliott and he
Speaker 6: had said that he was surprised at how little guys
Speaker 6: knew about basketball when they got to the league, right
Speaker 6: compared to what they were being taught at Arizona.
Speaker 3: No question, that story's been told a number of times.
Speaker 3: But you're spot on because they were they said, you know,
Speaker 3: they talk about John Wooden put on the socks and
Speaker 3: the fundamentals and this and that loot was a lot
Speaker 3: like that, and then they'd have those fundamentals sewed in
Speaker 3: by the time they were out. You know, maybe some
Speaker 3: boring stuff, but they were ready. They were ready when
Speaker 3: they got there.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, who would have thought how long did
Speaker 6: Judde Bushler stay in the league? And here this guy
Speaker 6: came to Arizona as a volleyball player and he was
Speaker 6: in the league what ten years or something? He was
Speaker 6: in the league a long time. Good spot. Yeah, Rooks
Speaker 6: and him and some of the guys and all the
Speaker 6: other guys that have gone around the world and and
Speaker 6: and coached you know, league championship teams you know in
Speaker 6: in China and and and all these other places, and
Speaker 6: it's like, you know, we were never good, we never
Speaker 6: went without. But the whole recruiting thing, it's like it's exhausting, Oh.
Speaker 4: No question.
Speaker 3: But to your point, he didn't go after although he
Speaker 3: tried to, probably to go after the big ten guys.
Speaker 3: Hell I followed him forever. Uh so, but he you're
Speaker 3: exactly right. He put pieces together to make him a
Speaker 3: good basketball team.
Speaker 6: And and how long did he have where the team
Speaker 6: voted on whether a guy could come.
Speaker 4: They've done it, done it in a number of times.
Speaker 3: They could tell him no, he's just not the right fit,
Speaker 3: you know, and Bobby have to sign off on some
Speaker 3: of his.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well she didn't like the Steve Kurr too at
Speaker 4: the time. Really this guy what? Yeah? Yeah, this guy really?
Speaker 3: Because you remember they went to the practice. It was
Speaker 3: last minute recruiting. They both went out there and I
Speaker 3: think he was God, it's in the book. I don't
Speaker 3: want to miss the mess up the book. But they
Speaker 3: went to watch him. You're gonna take that guy?
Speaker 8: Is he really?
Speaker 4: And then then he turned out to be Steve Kerr?
Speaker 6: Is that is that? Is that the heck of a thing?
Speaker 6: Missus coach says, Really, I don't, I don't know, right,
Speaker 6: I don't. Let's go get a nice tea, honey, let's
Speaker 6: think about it.
Speaker 4: To really go for it.
Speaker 5: When you look at the roster like ninety one. You know
Speaker 5: Clid Damon. Damon was a freshman, and I remember that
Speaker 5: he didn't go to New York for he didn't. It's
Speaker 5: very rare that he went West East. I mean, all
Speaker 5: the guys are from the West Nevada. Well there's who
Speaker 5: was Brian Nelson. I forget who that was.
Speaker 3: Yeah he was not he was a first walk on.
Speaker 3: He's one of the first walk on.
Speaker 18: Okay, but yeah, I mean that was pretty well, you know,
Speaker 18: probably probably Lout was already calculating, you know, homesickness and
Speaker 18: if I, if I bring with somebody out of New York,
Speaker 18: I might be able to get him to come, But
Speaker 18: is he gonna want to stay right right?
Speaker 6: And that was more of you know those big city kids.
Speaker 6: You know those big city kids are you know?
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it was tough and he did get home.
Speaker 3: I got who that was more of a Jesse Evans
Speaker 3: recruit too, of cold.
Speaker 4: But go ahead, if you had that roster.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, you know, Matt Othick was a senior,
Speaker 5: Stokes junior, Womack junior. You know, Chris Mills was a junior.
Speaker 5: The transfer you just come over from Kentucky. So it
Speaker 5: was you know, it was a good team. It was
Speaker 5: building to the final four and a couple of years
Speaker 5: after that. But I don't know if Cherokee Parks would
Speaker 5: have even made made much of an impact. I mean,
Speaker 5: the big guys were Rooks, you know, is going to
Speaker 5: be a senior, senior so he'd been here his fifth year,
Speaker 5: and Stokes, so that was a pretty pretty decent squad.
Speaker 8: Yep.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So here we go into the dog days of
Speaker 6: summer where there's nothing happening.
Speaker 3: Right, well, this will be the struggle. I'm going to
Speaker 3: be taking time off.
Speaker 6: But thanks Don, we might we might have to get
Speaker 6: Jay in more often just to talk about the no
Speaker 6: never mind, right, yeah.
Speaker 4: I totally agree with you. He's probably not listening, so
Speaker 4: you can talk about it. We'll talk about it Friday.
Speaker 4: Thanks man, Thanks, Thanks guys, Right, take care. We got
Speaker 4: about three minutes, a little less than three minutes.
Speaker 5: We can continue to look at that roster. Kidding it
Speaker 5: was a nondescript roster.
Speaker 3: But you remember that they lost to Santa Clara in
Speaker 3: the finals, but they went seventeen and one. That year
Speaker 3: of ninety three, they seventeen and one. They lost in
Speaker 3: a Fluca game to California and then they lost in
Speaker 3: the first round to Santa Clara with Reggie and then
Speaker 3: Damon and Kalid and Chris was that was rough. That
Speaker 3: was rough because it came on the hills of East Tennessee.
Speaker 5: So they had a twenty five didn't have a twenty
Speaker 5: five nothing run in that game.
Speaker 4: I mean, some ridiculous I remember that.
Speaker 3: I just remember that Chris Mills got into foul trouble
Speaker 3: in the first half, so they had to sit him
Speaker 3: and they couldn't separate themselves from Santa Clara. And everybody
Speaker 3: wants to talk about Steve Nash. Steve Nash was not
Speaker 3: a factor. No, he was just he scored punts from
Speaker 3: the free line. But he was on the team, so
Speaker 3: everyone's wants to talking about it.
Speaker 5: No, I mean that team had Rooks, Mills, Stokes. That's
Speaker 5: a pretty good front course. Well, Mack, yeah, it was
Speaker 5: a freshman.
Speaker 4: He's probably a junior of sophomore. He's a junior. I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: I was thinking.
Speaker 5: So again, all these guys are coming over from southern
Speaker 5: California basically, except for Damon from Portland and Khalid from Queens.
Speaker 5: He got Vegas. Matt Othick was coming from Vegas. They
Speaker 5: were all West Coast guys, and I mean it was.
Speaker 3: But it was not a not a big five star,
Speaker 3: four star dudes. He was just getting basketball players who
Speaker 3: can fit his dimes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he needed a six nine freshman forward,
Speaker 5: skinny forward. He got yos who lasted four years, I'm sure.
Speaker 4: And he was. He was tough. He was tough, and
Speaker 4: he was clutch.
Speaker 3: If he missed a twelve footer, UBC, how the hell
Speaker 3: did he missed that twelve footer because he was so automatic?
Speaker 4: Yep, you know.
Speaker 5: Chris Mills came in with a little bit of baggage
Speaker 5: from Kentucky, but still he wound up having a nice career,
Speaker 5: a long career in the NBA.
Speaker 3: I still say that he's the most underrated former cat
Speaker 3: in my time because he was really really good. Unlucky
Speaker 3: with the with the Santa Claara game, in the East
Speaker 3: Tennessee State game, but he was.
Speaker 4: He was that good. He was.
Speaker 3: He was before his time on the perimeter. He could
Speaker 3: get to rebounds, to do a lot of things. I
Speaker 3: should try to. I still try to find.
Speaker 4: Him because he's in l A doing a lot of stuff.
Speaker 4: And he was. He was big. He's a six foot six,
Speaker 4: but he was thicker. He was thicker.
Speaker 5: Have nim listed at two sixteen, but I know he
Speaker 5: reminds me of Yeah, but even bigger than that.
Speaker 3: He was thicking. But he was good, knew how to
Speaker 3: play the game. Yeah, he was tough. Yeah, Okay, we
Speaker 3: get about a minute, Dave. No, we might have to
Speaker 3: go through these rosters more often. It might be our
Speaker 3: summer summer plan. Well, ninety four, then ninety four they
Speaker 3: went to the final four, right with the same with
Speaker 3: Joe JB.
Speaker 4: Beddey, these guys, Corey, Reggie g.
Speaker 5: Playing Arkansas leading UCLA two zip first inning already, Yeah,
Speaker 5: Ucla tried to steal home really the first inning they
Speaker 5: got thrown out just.
Speaker 4: Inches, generating runs at least trying to.
Speaker 5: Okay, Pack ten school Pack twelve schools are having some trouble. Yeah,
Speaker 5: we'll see what happens in State's done, Arizona's done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, Dave. Sure a good show today. We'll
Speaker 3: see what we have tomorrow. I think Blake is in
Speaker 3: tomorrow and then you'll be back on Thursday.
Speaker 8: Yep.
Speaker 4: Okay, thanks everybody for listening
Speaker 3: Thanks for the calls, Done and anybody else and their
Speaker 3: guests appreciate you guys.