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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Backflips and Nerds, the Baseball podcast

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<v Speaker 1>with a British twist. I am Darius Austin and we

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<v Speaker 1>are here with our slightly belated twenty twenty six preseason

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<v Speaker 1>prediction extravaganza. Yes, I know some of you may point

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<v Speaker 1>out that the season has started to that. I say,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like to look at the standings until May.

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<v Speaker 1>So does it really matter? Probably not. I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to go back and look at who was in first

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<v Speaker 1>place on four games into the season last year, but

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<v Speaker 1>it really doesn't matter. I couldn't be bothered. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>just say we haven't learned anything about the teams. The

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<v Speaker 1>Nationals are not great. I'm not going to come in

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<v Speaker 1>and say the Nationals are winning nine five games. That's

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<v Speaker 1>my point. Anyway, in the background, you can hear the

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<v Speaker 1>one egg spur I deemed worthy enough to join me

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<v Speaker 1>on this podcast. I've cut these the dead wood. I've

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<v Speaker 1>just recruited our number one prognosticator, austral Damas as he's

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<v Speaker 1>called himself. How's okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Also, the nostrils are are being absolutely decimated by early

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<v Speaker 2>early season hay fever. I feel dreadful today, which reminds

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<v Speaker 2>me of when I was in San Francisco a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years ago, and so I died to stay on

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<v Speaker 2>Powell Street because it is tree pollen that gets me,

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<v Speaker 2>and and there were some very very pretty blossoming trees

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<v Speaker 2>down there. And I feel as dreadful now as probably

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<v Speaker 2>the San Francisco Giants do after the very short start

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<v Speaker 2>to the season. And what that's taught me is, don't

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<v Speaker 2>ever go to Washington because I feel dreadful right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, they're pretty into their blossoms there, I've heard,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm going to stay away from that.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the word on the street. I'm good, thank you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've not been to Washington. They did have that whole

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<v Speaker 1>jersey that was themed around the blossom, so I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a pretty big thing to look at it today,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hated it. I looked at it thinking, you bastard,

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<v Speaker 1>to stay away from me. You've felt allergic looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the hat I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I did. Yeah. Fantast sporting Milwaukee Brewers today in honor

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<v Speaker 2>of the team that did the best last year with

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<v Speaker 2>the old record, I've got the lovely blue and gold

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<v Speaker 2>uniform which was which is a gift from a recent birthday,

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'm ready to prognosticate.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a beautiful looking uniform. I'm sure we were all

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<v Speaker 1>wrong about the Brewers last year, so we will obviously

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<v Speaker 1>agree with it. To remind people, if you've not seen

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<v Speaker 1>one of these before, we've been doing this for quite

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<v Speaker 1>a few years now. But we are going to go

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<v Speaker 1>through and we're going to predict win totals for all

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<v Speaker 1>of the teams. If you are watching this on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>you will see the little spreadsheet we've got together here.

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<v Speaker 1>The number at the top you see, twenty four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty. That is how many wins there are in

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<v Speaker 1>a Major League Baseball season. And we're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>through and we're going to allocate some wins to everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>And once we really learning.

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<v Speaker 1>Are writing that down there we go. I believe you're

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<v Speaker 1>that we used to have an A team and a

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<v Speaker 1>B team. Podcast rob was on the B team. We

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<v Speaker 1>won't comment on who normally did better, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you had this restriction, did you. Robbie used to

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<v Speaker 1>just throughout the winters and it didn't matter what they

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely it didn't matter, you know, because because it's all

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<v Speaker 2>about breaking the boundaries man, and you know, like like

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<v Speaker 2>finding your way to victory and glory, you can't be

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<v Speaker 2>constrained by numbers. Well, welcome, we can because of the CBA.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Where we are constrained by numbers, and I will be

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<v Speaker 1>rigidly enforcing this number to make sure we get to

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<v Speaker 1>exactly zero wins remaining at the end. So what we

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<v Speaker 1>normally happens is we get to the end and we

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<v Speaker 1>are out in one or the other direction, normally over,

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<v Speaker 1>but we have been under in the past, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we have to go through and say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>the Rockies are a you know, forty win team. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>just take some off then and then we're done. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's the aim of the name of the game. We

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<v Speaker 1>will go through. We'll just randomly pick teams each and

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<v Speaker 1>at some point we believe that mister ben Carter may

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<v Speaker 1>turn up, probably just to talk about the Mets for

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<v Speaker 1>a few minutes and give them one hundred and five wins.

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<v Speaker 1>So if he joins us, he joins us. If not,

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<v Speaker 1>it would just be me and Rob arguing over whether

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<v Speaker 1>we think our respective predictions are really good or not.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. Can I add something we could do this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is us us working this out on the fly,

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<v Speaker 2>rather than having a proper meeting before to discuss the format.

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<v Speaker 2>The B team we used to have our tiebreaker game.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got that up my sleeve if we need to,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got my random number generator. And what we can

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<v Speaker 2>do is we can if we really cannot agree on

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<v Speaker 2>a number, we can hit that random number generator, hit

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<v Speaker 2>a random stat and then whoever gets closest to that

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<v Speaker 2>stat and can have their prognostication to be the defining

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<v Speaker 2>one until we have to make it up at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure that sounds like probably, especially in this situation where

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<v Speaker 1>there are only two of us, may be quite a

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<v Speaker 1>sensible idea. Because we don't it doesn't sound sensible at all. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>given that this is you, Darius, and I'm doing this

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<v Speaker 1>based on vibes, Yeah, well, vibes are very important in

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<v Speaker 1>the Prediction Pod. We don't base it on a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of data. Generally speaking, you can embody the spirit of

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<v Speaker 1>mister Pringle on today's episode. So, without further ado, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess we should pick a team and I'll let you

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<v Speaker 1>go first. Rob, you can pick. You've got all thirty

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<v Speaker 1>to choose from who do you want to predict?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what humans are like when they say

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<v Speaker 2>you shouldn't actually give people a choice, because then they

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<v Speaker 2>can't do it. I'm now I'm now spoilt for choice,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm going to go with a really popular choice

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<v Speaker 2>of the Minnesota Twins. How exciting. What a way to

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<v Speaker 2>kick it off a Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep people hooked for this episode by bringing up the

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<v Speaker 1>Twins first.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, absolutely, we're burying the lead here. I reckon

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<v Speaker 2>the Minnesota Twins are going to win, and win is

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<v Speaker 2>probably a strong word. Seventy games because I am feeling

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<v Speaker 2>generous to start the day off.

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<v Speaker 1>Cently seems like the right ballpark to me. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have any confidence that they actually want to do anything

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<v Speaker 1>with this team. I know they keep saying, the owners

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<v Speaker 1>keeps saying they want to win, but everything they've done

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<v Speaker 1>around that suggests they don't want to win. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to fight you on seventeen. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>can start off with seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fine. And basically all they've done is they've they've

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<v Speaker 2>done what every losing team does, is they've passed Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Bell around, and hey, look, Josh Bell, I'm sure he's

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<v Speaker 2>a great chap, he's a serviceable major league player, But boy,

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<v Speaker 2>does that guy seem to find the team that is

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<v Speaker 2>going to suck that year. So I think mister Bell

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<v Speaker 2>being there is a bad sign. And they've done sweet

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<v Speaker 2>fa all else all off season, so I think, well,

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<v Speaker 2>let's start with seventy, A nice, happy round.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventy nice seventy. I'm going to put in the seventy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Bell is fascinating case. I'm sure he must be

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<v Speaker 1>in the top ten of players likelings to get traded

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<v Speaker 1>and the deadline, so that's fascinating scenario. They've cooked themselves

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<v Speaker 1>up there. Let's go get Josh Bell.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a man who's eard an awful lot of money

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<v Speaker 2>by doing not particularly that.

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<v Speaker 1>I presume he's a tremendous clubhouse guy. Must have had

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<v Speaker 1>a great reviews because everybody wants to sign him, and with.

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<v Speaker 2>The money he's got, at least the drinks will will

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<v Speaker 2>certainly be on him now at some point, because again,

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<v Speaker 2>the guy's got cash are probably more cash than the

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<v Speaker 2>entire rest of that Twins Twins lineup has. So yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the Minnesota Twins, let's not dwell on them too long.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not I'm going to do get this out of

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<v Speaker 1>the way, because they are the most mid team in

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<v Speaker 1>the history of baseball, the San Francisco Giants. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>give them eighty one. That is what they are, that

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<v Speaker 1>is what they have been four years. They didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>do anything to disabuse us of that notion. This offseason.

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<v Speaker 1>They made the Adrian Howser signing, for example, which is

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<v Speaker 1>about as mid as you can get.

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<v Speaker 2>Quite like Tadrian Houser. Yeah, I like all of the

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<v Speaker 2>all the Giants.

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<v Speaker 1>I quite like them all that that that's the whole

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<v Speaker 1>point that they're not terrible. You know, they're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to lose a hundred games. Outside of that one miraculous season.

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<v Speaker 1>They have basically been a five hundred team for about

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<v Speaker 1>the last half decade.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you say they're not one hundred games, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're on course for zero sixty two at

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<v Speaker 2>the moment, are they not?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>They won, they won last night. So who do they

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<v Speaker 1>play Padres?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, they're not very good either. Maybe we'll come

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<v Speaker 2>to that later.

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<v Speaker 1>H Hot hot take preview for Rogunnett and do you

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<v Speaker 1>have do you want to argue with eighty one or

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<v Speaker 1>is that fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you really can't with the with the Giants,

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<v Speaker 2>they've gone from being like this really really interesting, ever

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<v Speaker 2>present gonna win every other year. Franchise two also runs.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they are they're just dumb, but they're not bad.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not bad. They are fine. That is that I

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<v Speaker 2>quite like, you know, William Damas is an interesting player,

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<v Speaker 2>and then there's some other guys and that's about it really.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, so I can't argue with eighty one. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we should. We should lock them in for eighty one.

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<v Speaker 2>And I really don't see that one budget much.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well lock them in for eighty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say moving any it direction on that, but

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<v Speaker 1>we can always come back to it. Where would you

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<v Speaker 1>like to go next?

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<v Speaker 2>So we've started with two really exciting teams. Just couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be more exciting. So I think I am going to

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<v Speaker 2>move on to the Marlins. So the Miami Marlins, I

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<v Speaker 2>think last year they run differential indicated the team they

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<v Speaker 2>really were, and their record really flattered them. And they

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<v Speaker 2>did seventy nine wins last year. It's only going down.

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<v Speaker 2>People seem quite high on them. They've actually done all

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<v Speaker 2>right in the first three games of the season, but

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<v Speaker 2>I've got them for seventy three and that might be

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<v Speaker 2>generous by the time we come to the end of

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<v Speaker 2>this and we've predicted far too many wins.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there are bits of the Marlins that I like.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Aary Perez. I think there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>pitching potential there, and they've got some more pitches on

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<v Speaker 1>the way. I think the lineup is pretty bad, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't trust them to not blow it up. Last

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<v Speaker 1>year it wasn't going that badly, so they didn't completely

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<v Speaker 1>tear it apart. But you know, there are guys in

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<v Speaker 1>this team who are definitely getting traded at the deadline

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<v Speaker 1>if they're you know, ten games under five hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah as hell. Wasn't it like they were? They were

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<v Speaker 2>last couple of years. So is there anything less left

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<v Speaker 2>in San Dielo, Cantara. Who knows. But what do you

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the low seventies as well. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's no downside really, I mean he won't

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<v Speaker 2>Marlins pithag from last season. Where are we seventy two

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I think seventy three is fine. I

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<v Speaker 2>Oh he's not. He's just recruiting old Rays. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>Probably, yeah, but maybe maybe not that one. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>Three, then let's stick on seventy three. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>I think they might go down towards the end.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, where shall we go. I feel like I should

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<v Speaker 1>pick somebody also not very exciting, just to keep this

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<v Speaker 1>left on the board.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to say the Rocket. Someone will save them.

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<v Speaker 2>See if Ben turns up absolutely interesting to the Chicago

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<v Speaker 2>more interesting this year than they were last year because

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<v Speaker 1>They were just kind of bad. Now they've got Murakami

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<v Speaker 1>at the old strikeout record, which will be interesting. And

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<v Speaker 1>there are some guys, some young guys. Yeah, Miguel Vargas

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they've got some pitching prospects on the way

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<v Speaker 1>and the miners. It's it's looking it's looking up for

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<v Speaker 1>the White Sox. Low bar, but yes, very low. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the guys on the team that you know, five

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<v Speaker 1>years ago would have been all they're interesting but never

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<v Speaker 1>quite turned out that way. I mean, how much you're

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, but uh yeah, I mean they lost

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, cos Montgomery is interesting. I think the Catchers,

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<v Speaker 1>But I think they've got some potential to be part

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<v Speaker 1>of the next good White Sox team. There are some

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<v Speaker 1>pieces here. A couple of years ago you just looked

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<v Speaker 1>at seemly thought there is literally nobody here who I

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<v Speaker 1>Sox team. And that's not true anymore. That said, they're

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<v Speaker 1>still very bad basketball too, and I think that the

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<v Speaker 1>going to win an awful bad now dull bad, like

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<v Speaker 1>is we're not having enough discourse because these are our

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<v Speaker 1>our predictions are far too close. I had him for

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five, so yeah, happy to settle on your sixty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Settle Okay, well, coming rop, you've got a pig sign

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<v Speaker 1>controversial then wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I did have a couple. Yeah, yeah, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to fuck you about the Brewers. Okay, I'm wearing the

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<v Speaker 2>Brewers let's do the Brewers. I think the Brewers were

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<v Speaker 2>all smoking mirrors. I think their ninety seven was alone rubbish.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the Brewers this year are going to

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<v Speaker 2>end up on still very good eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were going to go way lower from

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<v Speaker 1>that intro.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, and I mean eight wins the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, honestly, I could see them being worse. I know

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<v Speaker 1>what you mean about the smoking mirrors. It feels like

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<v Speaker 1>the pieces are never that impressive. I still look at

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<v Speaker 2>Where's it going from?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it didn't like, how did they score that many runs?

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<v Speaker 1>That like just couldn't figure it out?

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<v Speaker 2>And cheerios as well. Now, yeah, I could I could

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<v Speaker 2>go lower. I could go lower on the Brewers. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just do it. Let's go crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been such a number. The number is eighty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty four is rough, eighty four is split difference. Uh no,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, Let's stay bold, Let's stay let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>see the look on Ben's face when he turns up,

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<v Speaker 1>if he turns up when we approach with eighty four,

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<v Speaker 1>eighty four on the Brewers, throwing shade here, Okay, it's in.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's still the best thing we've projected so far,

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<v Speaker 1>so it might have been enough to win that division too. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the Cubs. I think the Cubs are

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<v Speaker 1>got the much better lineup. I still have questions about

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<v Speaker 1>the pitching, but I really like Kate Horton. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a lot of potential. And yeah, just that

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<v Speaker 1>the depth of that lineup is is pretty incredible. Incredible

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<v Speaker 1>defensively as well. You know, having dance by Swanson and

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<v Speaker 2>Is incredible stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, that's that's the question.

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<v Speaker 2>With the bat, he obviously looked like an MVP candidate

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<v Speaker 2>for the first half and then like a guy they

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<v Speaker 1>That's a concern. But his defense in center field maybe

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot. You know, he doesn't need to be

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<v Speaker 1>a superstar with the bat. You know, you watched Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>kim I for years. Kevin kim I didn't have to hit,

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<v Speaker 1>did he He did not. He was still he was

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<v Speaker 1>still a four or five win player, even when he

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<v Speaker 1>could be like that, but with a bit more power.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's the possibility. I think he's probably going to

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<v Speaker 1>be like Haby Buyers, really but in center field, and

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<v Speaker 1>some he's going to have like incredible seasons. In some

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<v Speaker 1>he swings at things outside the zone.

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<v Speaker 2>They've give him a fair bit of cash for someone

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<v Speaker 2>with a lot of a lot of years left on

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<v Speaker 2>his contract, So let's give him a fair bit of cash.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think they believe, so I think they've

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<v Speaker 1>got to believe in something. Yeah, So I believe in

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<v Speaker 1>the Cubs, and I think they're going to win nighty games.

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<v Speaker 2>See they did ninety two last year, and yeah, essentially

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<v Speaker 2>the only real thing that's changed on that team is

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<v Speaker 2>we've exchanged Kyle Tucker for Alex Bregman. Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>Carle Tucker is only two games better than Alex Brogman.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Krtucker was hurt, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's a fair point.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe over a full season, maybe maybe not. But

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<v Speaker 1>a thanks breakman stays in the field, he's probably a

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, all right, I can see it. Yeah, fine, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go, let's go, let's go. You said ninety, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I said ninety. I had it a couple less than that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I can go with ninety. Let's let's put that

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<v Speaker 2>in there, but put a pin in it because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>pinning it. I'm willing to drop that a couple when

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<v Speaker 2>we need to. It was greed on your little little

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<v Speaker 2>chart there. I'm now fully understanding the color the color

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<v Speaker 2>have red teams with low numbers, gray teams in the middle,

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<v Speaker 2>and green teams at the top, which of course is

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<v Speaker 2>completely normal thing to do. But I hadn't understood what

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<v Speaker 1>It's not very color line friendly. But this is also,

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<v Speaker 2>So so we had ninety for the Cubs, we had

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<v Speaker 2>eighty four for the Brewers. Okay, right, let's try and

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<v Speaker 2>talk about somebody a little bit more interesting. I like

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<v Speaker 2>the red Sox. I think the Red Sox have had

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<v Speaker 2>a really fun off season. I think watching that documentary

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<v Speaker 2>about them, the most boring man in the front office

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<v Speaker 2>has done a decent job. So I really like the

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<v Speaker 2>moves they've made. I like Sunny Gray. I think has

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<v Speaker 2>been quite underrated since he flopped with the Yankees, but

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<v Speaker 2>outside of that, I think he's been pretty damn good

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<v Speaker 2>the whole DWN time. I like Wilson Contrerez. Ranger Suarez

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<v Speaker 2>is a really good pick up for them. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they were a team that did quietly did quite well

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<v Speaker 2>last year, Like it wasn't not a fanfare about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think they've got better. Yes, they've lost Bregman,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's really the sort of the headline there. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in on the Red Sox last year at eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>This year, I'm I'm gonna see I'm gonna see ninety two. Hmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do agree with you that I like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of what they did. I mean, the rotation looks great,

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<v Speaker 1>and the depth is incredible as well, Like it's really

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<v Speaker 1>They've got so much depth, which I like a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the infield is the question is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>Durbin really that good? What's happening with Meyer? What's happening

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<v Speaker 1>with Christian Campbell? If he materializes? But the outfield is stagged?

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I like Contrellas too, so yeah, the biggest I.

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<v Speaker 2>Had was no first basement. Now they have a decent

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, who knows what's happening with Dress

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<v Speaker 1>and Cassas as well, But maybe they just trade him

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<v Speaker 1>for something that they need at some point during the scene.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a It's a good problem to have, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can see it. This is going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>tough division to shake out, I think, But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>hear ninety two and think there's no way the Red

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<v Speaker 1>Sox are doing that. So let's go with it and

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<v Speaker 1>then we can fight about the air at least later maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we will. I think we will fight about

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<v Speaker 2>the air least. I think they're all good. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're all good. Yeah, that's the problem with the aarlist.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean all of them, all of them, not the

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<v Speaker 2>way everyone else is predicting it, all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the Blue Jays were the least goods last season,

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<v Speaker 1>then they ended up winning the division. So but I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think we maybe did have them all that

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<v Speaker 1>or over five hundred when we did ours last year.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's it's tough. Why don't we Why don't

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<v Speaker 1>we stick around in there? The Oriols are staring right

421
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<v Speaker 1>at me, So I'm going to talk about the Oriols,

422
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<v Speaker 1>and I think I think they're going to get better.

423
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<v Speaker 1>Pitching still disappoints me a bit, but I think I

424
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<v Speaker 1>think they'll be above five hundred. I think they're going

425
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<v Speaker 1>to be in that wild card mix. I'm just not

426
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<v Speaker 1>quite sure they've done enough on the on the pitching side,

427
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<v Speaker 1>I still think they might not could be really really

428
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<v Speaker 1>really good. But yeah, maybe Trevor Rodgers is great, and

429
00:22:05.240 --> 00:22:08.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe Kyle Bradish can go back to being great. You've

430
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<v Speaker 1>watched a lot of shame pars and the Oils extended him,

431
00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:13.200
<v Speaker 1>so I guess they think he's going to be goold.

432
00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:18.319
<v Speaker 1>But uh, yeah, I know, Chris Bassett kind of washed.

433
00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Maybe Zach Eflin wasn't up to most last season. Yeah,

434
00:22:21.880 --> 00:22:24.519
<v Speaker 1>it gets thin real fast here, and you could easily

435
00:22:24.559 --> 00:22:26.400
<v Speaker 1>look up at this team in August and go, what,

436
00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:29.440
<v Speaker 1>They've got one good starter and then nothing.

437
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<v Speaker 2>So they'll have pictures, which is an improvement on last year.

438
00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:36.200
<v Speaker 2>I think what they've done is they've significantly increased the floor,

439
00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:39.519
<v Speaker 2>which was dire, and now it's just bad.

440
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I want to say, like eighty six, I

441
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<v Speaker 1>think that'll get him in the wildcard mix, but maybe

442
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<v Speaker 1>a little step behind the guys who are going to

443
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<v Speaker 1>be in the division mix.

444
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<v Speaker 2>Bit rich for my blood. I mean, Peter Alonzo, I

445
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<v Speaker 2>think I just can't look past how bad he's you know,

446
00:22:58.759 --> 00:23:02.599
<v Speaker 2>it's right there the day comparison, like it's it's staring

447
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<v Speaker 2>me in the face.

448
00:23:03.519 --> 00:23:03.920
<v Speaker 3>I think it.

449
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<v Speaker 2>It hinges a lot on that man, and I think

450
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<v Speaker 2>I just can't see it. I think it's going to

451
00:23:09.240 --> 00:23:13.480
<v Speaker 2>be a delicious, delicious failure. I think it's going to

452
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<v Speaker 2>go bad straight away, like immediately, bad straight away, immediately,

453
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<v Speaker 2>absolutely immediately. Look like the first like three weeks are

454
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<v Speaker 2>going to be spectacular and then like nothing. That's that's

455
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<v Speaker 2>the prediction. And I think that leads the Orioles to

456
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<v Speaker 2>an eighty two win team. In my mind, I've still

457
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<v Speaker 2>got them as a winner. Eighty six, eighty six, should

458
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<v Speaker 2>should we do it?

459
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<v Speaker 1>Can we go eighty four?

460
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<v Speaker 2>Can we we split? Let's do a tie break. Let's

461
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<v Speaker 2>do a type break.

462
00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Let's use your type break. We've got it, so right, let's.

463
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<v Speaker 2>Let's you know. And now now in the this is

464
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<v Speaker 2>going to seem really seamless as I as I work

465
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<v Speaker 2>this out. So I've got a random number generator. You

466
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<v Speaker 2>pick a stat, and then I will pick a random player,

467
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<v Speaker 2>and then whoever gets closest to that stat is the

468
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<v Speaker 2>winner on their baseball reference page or whatever like well

469
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<v Speaker 2>that you have to find it because you're the stat man.

470
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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to find a player first, so I

471
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<v Speaker 2>can't see the stat by mistake the player one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Okay,

472
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<v Speaker 2>So you are looking for an outfielder. Pick pick an

473
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<v Speaker 2>outfield stat that you can look up quickly and out

474
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<v Speaker 2>any outfield stat like a different any any field, any

475
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<v Speaker 2>lineup stat, any stat.

476
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<v Speaker 1>For a hitter, any stat for a hitter. Okay, stolen bases,

477
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<v Speaker 1>stolen bases.

478
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, right now, I'm going to tell you the name

479
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<v Speaker 2>of the bloke, and it is uh Colby Mayo, Coby Mayo.

480
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<v Speaker 2>So now you need to you need to get it

481
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<v Speaker 2>before you look it up. And we'll pick a number

482
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<v Speaker 2>each and whoever is closest is the winner, and we're

483
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<v Speaker 2>working career No last season, last season? How many stolen

484
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<v Speaker 2>bases Coby Mayo get Yeah? Did he did he play?

485
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<v Speaker 2>He barely played? Didn't he Well, it doesn't matter which

486
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<v Speaker 2>to vision, like, maybe it was in the miners. Who knows,

487
00:25:09.559 --> 00:25:13.160
<v Speaker 2>oh mine league counts? What last year? Wherever he was?

488
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<v Speaker 2>How many bases.

489
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<v Speaker 1>Wherever he played?

490
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<v Speaker 2>Wherever he played?

491
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'll say three. Then if we include three, I'm

492
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<v Speaker 1>going to.

493
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<v Speaker 2>Take the over. I'm going to go four. How many

494
00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:38.079
<v Speaker 2>did Kobe Mayo? For? Look, this is this would be

495
00:25:38.160 --> 00:25:41.119
<v Speaker 2>better if I had stolen bases? Aha, stolen bases in

496
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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five, you had its spot on the ad three.

497
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<v Speaker 2>So well done, you win? Will you go with your

498
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<v Speaker 2>your estimate?

499
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we're going eighty six on the Orioles thanks

500
00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:56.519
<v Speaker 1>to Coby may.

501
00:25:58.559 --> 00:26:00.359
<v Speaker 2>See, it's a really non clunky game. You see that

502
00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:02.720
<v Speaker 2>looks really really seamless, especially when it's all live.

503
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:07.799
<v Speaker 3>Right.

504
00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you go eighty six on them, scoot to the

505
00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:18.759
<v Speaker 2>other end and let's do the Reds. Another exciting team.

506
00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:21.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure Gav will say that they were on

507
00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:24.480
<v Speaker 2>for a hundred wins or something crazy, because Gav likes

508
00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:28.079
<v Speaker 2>to go hard on the Twins. I'm saying they are

509
00:26:28.319 --> 00:26:34.160
<v Speaker 2>a pretty boring eighty They've done nothing. There's nothing's happened

510
00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:37.400
<v Speaker 2>there Like this. This team is basically the team they

511
00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:39.839
<v Speaker 2>had last year. They weren't very good. It's it's a

512
00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:42.279
<v Speaker 2>little bit better. They've all got a little bit more

513
00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:45.799
<v Speaker 2>sort of improved. But they've they've you know, they got

514
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<v Speaker 2>rid of the likes of Nick Martinez, who was okay,

515
00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:52.279
<v Speaker 2>Gavin Lux you know, who was potentially okay, never really

516
00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:55.960
<v Speaker 2>really became anything. And they've not done much other than

517
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<v Speaker 2>add a Henio Suarez. So like it's it's a a

518
00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:03.440
<v Speaker 2>bit better than last year's results, which was maybe not

519
00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:06.119
<v Speaker 2>actually better. Maybe I'm wrong. They did eighty to three

520
00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:09.880
<v Speaker 2>last year. I just saw that. Okay, I'm gonna revise

521
00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:12.400
<v Speaker 2>it to eighty three. They're going to repeat it's eighty three.

522
00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:14.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they did enough. It's just it's just

523
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:18.640
<v Speaker 2>a blat. Yeah.

524
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<v Speaker 1>I like the pitching, like, I mean, it would help

525
00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:25.920
<v Speaker 1>if Green hadn't got hurt. Yes, I like Chase Burns

526
00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:29.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot. I think Andrew Rabbit is good. Nick Midelo,

527
00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:31.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe had his career year last year.

528
00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:33.400
<v Speaker 1>But it's a lot of potential on the pitching side.

529
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:36.720
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's just I think the bullpen is bad.

530
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:39.559
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of the lineup is bad. You

531
00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:43.599
<v Speaker 1>know Ellie's side. I mean, I know will hit home runs,

532
00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:45.839
<v Speaker 1>but it will be in a weird up and down

533
00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:47.000
<v Speaker 1>frustrating way.

534
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:48.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

535
00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:51.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel strongly enough about the Reds to argue

536
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:54.039
<v Speaker 1>with eighty three. I don't think I might be a

537
00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:54.640
<v Speaker 1>bit high on that.

538
00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Initially had eighty and then I realized I'd said that

539
00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:00.400
<v Speaker 2>they did nothing, and so they've they've maybe a little

540
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:02.920
<v Speaker 2>bit better, but then realize that I've actually predicted them less.

541
00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:06.599
<v Speaker 2>So I had eight in my head. But I mean,

542
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:09.079
<v Speaker 2>if we stick with eighty three, there's there's some right

543
00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:10.720
<v Speaker 2>pickings for some wins we need later on.

544
00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'll stick with eighty three. You can argue that

545
00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:18.079
<v Speaker 1>the Pirates are like maybe a bit better than last year,

546
00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:19.519
<v Speaker 1>and so that might contribute.

547
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:29.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. All right, let's do the Atlanta Braves.

548
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Who are good? Who are cursed? I think I think so. Yes.

549
00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:39.440
<v Speaker 1>What entertains me about the Braves is that even though

550
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:42.200
<v Speaker 1>they seem to keep having all these tragedies before them,

551
00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:46.480
<v Speaker 1>all the projection systems still really even though it's like,

552
00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>well half their rotation is falling apart, and yeah, yeah,

553
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:55.119
<v Speaker 1>who's pitching at this point? Who's who's pitching at this point?

554
00:28:55.359 --> 00:28:56.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, one of one of the guys who's not

555
00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:01.559
<v Speaker 1>her is Chris Sale. You know, I hope Chris Sales

556
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:04.319
<v Speaker 1>stays healthy. But usually usually there's some sort of time

557
00:29:05.480 --> 00:29:09.599
<v Speaker 1>needs a couple of weeks at least, then it's yeah,

558
00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:15.079
<v Speaker 1>like Bryce Elder, like, what we're doing here. It's not

559
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:19.279
<v Speaker 1>it's not good, it's strided done. It doesn't look like

560
00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:23.519
<v Speaker 1>old Strider anymore. Rain had a Lopez throwing eighty nine.

561
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:28.000
<v Speaker 1>But then you know, you also say this line up

562
00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:30.599
<v Speaker 1>was like maybe the best line up or time, like

563
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:32.799
<v Speaker 1>not that long ago, and they've still got most of

564
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:38.880
<v Speaker 1>those guys. So yeah, I just I feel like they're

565
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:42.160
<v Speaker 1>going to fall off, but maybe not as much as

566
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:44.519
<v Speaker 1>like you'd think from all the tragedies that performed them

567
00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:50.319
<v Speaker 1>so to like eighty eight, yeah, I mean where it's

568
00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>an improvement on last year. But last year was like

569
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:54.359
<v Speaker 1>a real like injury disaster.

570
00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:58.680
<v Speaker 2>I had the blessed, I had the blessed. I thought

571
00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:01.079
<v Speaker 2>you were going to go go lower than that, And

572
00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:05.279
<v Speaker 2>my rationale was was, yeah, they they're all injured to

573
00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:07.279
<v Speaker 2>start with, but then sort of second half they're going

574
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:09.599
<v Speaker 2>to come back a bit because they do have a

575
00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:14.519
<v Speaker 2>decent team and you know decent like healthier Kunya, healthy

576
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:16.519
<v Speaker 2>Murphy like that, they could really make a bit of

577
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:21.319
<v Speaker 2>a difference. So I had them way lower, but let's

578
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:23.359
<v Speaker 2>let's go somewhere in the middle. Then I can see

579
00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:28.839
<v Speaker 2>maybe eighty five scrape into a world car position.

580
00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:34.319
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they're eighty five too bothered about that?

581
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Would you be happy if you were a Braves fan

582
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:40.920
<v Speaker 2>with eighty five though? I mean, given the way they've

583
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:43.880
<v Speaker 2>been handing out contracts over the you know, long term contracts,

584
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:46.599
<v Speaker 2>we should be right in the middle of their like

585
00:30:46.920 --> 00:30:49.960
<v Speaker 2>their heyday now, and it's it's just not happened. I mean,

586
00:30:50.039 --> 00:30:52.480
<v Speaker 2>it's lucky they've had they had that World Series because

587
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:54.200
<v Speaker 2>they've not got as much to show for it as

588
00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:55.079
<v Speaker 2>they really should have done.

589
00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a lot riding on this year, isn't there.

590
00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:01.599
<v Speaker 1>Like a lot of these guys they signed to long

591
00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:03.519
<v Speaker 1>term deals, you want to see them bounce back, Like

592
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:07.319
<v Speaker 1>if Riley's not any better and Harris isn't any better

593
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:10.599
<v Speaker 1>and Stryder doesn't look like he's going to get back

594
00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:12.119
<v Speaker 1>to his best, and you can't like, well, now we've

595
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:13.720
<v Speaker 1>just got a lot of guys on long term deals

596
00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:17.720
<v Speaker 1>who would like maybe their average players, and we're kind of,

597
00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:21.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, a bit restricted here. I think it's going

598
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:25.279
<v Speaker 1>to be a pretty interesting year from them in that regard, because, yeah,

599
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>when they were locking all those guys up, it it's like, oh,

600
00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:28.559
<v Speaker 1>they're just you know, it's unfair.

601
00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:30.920
<v Speaker 2>How can they have all this talent? And now a

602
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:33.160
<v Speaker 2>lot of that talent, you know, we have a lot

603
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:36.519
<v Speaker 2>of questions about and there's going to be a lot

604
00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:39.920
<v Speaker 2>of Mauricio Dubonne early in the season, which there's a lot. Yeah,

605
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:43.960
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot, you know. And like the pickups, well,

606
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:48.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, Mike Yastremski, joonah Heim, like these aren't Braves

607
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:53.279
<v Speaker 2>level exciting pickups. These are very very like everything's falling

608
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:55.160
<v Speaker 2>apart and here's some guy all for the whole kind

609
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:58.599
<v Speaker 2>of signings. And I wasn't overly impressed with their with

610
00:31:58.680 --> 00:32:00.279
<v Speaker 2>their off season personally.

611
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:06.400
<v Speaker 1>No, Kim Kim getting hurt was unlucky. But yeah, last

612
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:10.119
<v Speaker 1>year anyway, a load bearing part of your team is

613
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:13.880
<v Speaker 1>concerning and They seem to have contented themselves to just

614
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:17.920
<v Speaker 1>not have anybody that good in left field, which is

615
00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>a choice that I probably wouldn't have made.

616
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:30.759
<v Speaker 2>Eighty five. That'll do, Okay, you are up, I am up,

617
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:34.680
<v Speaker 2>and I am going to take the.

618
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh.

619
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:41.000
<v Speaker 2>The Detroit Tigers. They're an interesting, interesting option this year.

620
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:44.960
<v Speaker 2>They had a really weird one. Last year. They were

621
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:47.480
<v Speaker 2>the best team in baseball. They were the worst team

622
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:49.599
<v Speaker 2>in baseball, and they were just about enough of the

623
00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:54.160
<v Speaker 2>team in baseball. And it's really really hard to see

624
00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:57.200
<v Speaker 2>what these guys actually are. I think the team is

625
00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:02.720
<v Speaker 2>probably reeling from the insane deal that has been signed

626
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:08.640
<v Speaker 2>by one Tariff Schooble. I imagine that's probably hamstring them

627
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:11.599
<v Speaker 2>a little bit in what plans they maybe had. They

628
00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:14.799
<v Speaker 2>kind of have this horrible decision. Now it's it's do

629
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:17.680
<v Speaker 2>we do we back that for all that money or

630
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:21.559
<v Speaker 2>do we get rid of it. You talk about recreating

631
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:23.559
<v Speaker 2>players in the aggregate, and most of the time that's

632
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:26.480
<v Speaker 2>a load of rubbish, which is an excuse for getting

633
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:29.079
<v Speaker 2>rid of some big wages. But with that kind of money,

634
00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:34.119
<v Speaker 2>you really genuinely could do an awful lot. And they've

635
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:37.839
<v Speaker 2>they've they've seemingly backed him with the Vowders signing was

636
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:40.079
<v Speaker 2>it was a nice one for them. So I think

637
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:42.000
<v Speaker 2>they are on the up. I think you've also got

638
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:46.039
<v Speaker 2>a young team that is stabilizing a bit. Perhaps they

639
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:49.519
<v Speaker 2>will know how better to pace themselves. Maybe they'll find themselves.

640
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, they won't quite have the highs, but they

641
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.200
<v Speaker 2>certainly hopefully won't have those ridiculous lows. I could see

642
00:33:55.240 --> 00:34:04.839
<v Speaker 2>them being a mild improvement to an eighty eight winter. Yeah,

643
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.160
<v Speaker 2>like what who are the real Tigers?

644
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:14.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm still unconvinced by lots of parts

645
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:19.159
<v Speaker 1>of this team. Yeah, I'm sure Kevin McGonigal will be

646
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:23.159
<v Speaker 1>good at some point. I'm sure Max Clark will come

647
00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:25.119
<v Speaker 1>up and we will place Parking Meadows of Parking Meadows

648
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:28.119
<v Speaker 1>is no good. Riley Green just strikes out a lot.

649
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:30.960
<v Speaker 2>He was going to be so good.

650
00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and I think he still can be good.

651
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:37.679
<v Speaker 2>What's by it? You know, as is there anything left

652
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:40.960
<v Speaker 2>in the tank for Verlander? You know, Yeah, it didn't

653
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:41.400
<v Speaker 2>look like it.

654
00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Last night for Verlander, that's for sure. But then they

655
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:49.239
<v Speaker 1>have scooball and they have rambas so that that helps

656
00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:51.840
<v Speaker 1>quite a bit. If you can get thirty plus starts

657
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:53.360
<v Speaker 1>out of those two guys. That will take you a

658
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:59.960
<v Speaker 1>long way. And the division is bad. Yeah, eighty eights

659
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:03.320
<v Speaker 1>sounds fine. You know they can take those wins off

660
00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:05.719
<v Speaker 1>the Twins and the White Sox pretyvious. They can't they

661
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:11.119
<v Speaker 1>Kevin McGonagall sounds like a Harry Potter character. I'm gonna

662
00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:13.079
<v Speaker 1>throw that out there, one if that dozen things of

663
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:16.039
<v Speaker 1>the Characulus, like that's quite on vogue at the moment

664
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:17.480
<v Speaker 1>they got that series coming out.

665
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:23.320
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't there the professor McGonagall, that's the one. There you go.

666
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:26.360
<v Speaker 2>I knew i'd read that somewhere. There we go. The

667
00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:28.280
<v Speaker 2>comparison is not as good as I thought it was

668
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:30.719
<v Speaker 2>fair enough. Okay, we'll take one off then in eighty seven,

669
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:31.320
<v Speaker 2>not eighty eight.

670
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:34.039
<v Speaker 1>Eighty seven eighty seven for that because of.

671
00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:36.559
<v Speaker 2>The lack of appropriate Harry Potter adjacency.

672
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:39.880
<v Speaker 1>That is what they got last year. So I don't

673
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:43.159
<v Speaker 1>think that it's crazy, I believe. So I think they're

674
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:43.599
<v Speaker 1>going to be better.

675
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:45.559
<v Speaker 2>That come on. I mean, sure they're gonna they've got

676
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:46.760
<v Speaker 2>to be better. They've got to be a bit of

677
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:48.119
<v Speaker 2>maturity gone on there, surely.

678
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.360
<v Speaker 1>But what it's better mean because they played way over

679
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:55.639
<v Speaker 1>their heads winning winter at the start of the year,

680
00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:58.480
<v Speaker 1>and then they like had the world's worst collapse at

681
00:35:58.519 --> 00:35:59.039
<v Speaker 1>the end of the year.

682
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:04.159
<v Speaker 2>That collapse was quite short, wasn't it. Mhmm, oh, I

683
00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:06.320
<v Speaker 2>believe do I spy a third window?

684
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:07.360
<v Speaker 3>Hello?

685
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:10.559
<v Speaker 2>You do? Here? He is joining us? Now?

686
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:16.199
<v Speaker 1>Is mister Ben Carter damage assessing the damage? Tell us

687
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:18.400
<v Speaker 1>here we are Ben live reaction. Which number are you

688
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:19.280
<v Speaker 1>most horrified by?

689
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:19.440
<v Speaker 2>That?

690
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:20.519
<v Speaker 1>You can't believe we've done?

691
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:23.239
<v Speaker 3>Just scan those.

692
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:26.639
<v Speaker 2>Numbers, I mean, looking at the graphic. I think I

693
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:30.639
<v Speaker 2>think the merge of the Dodgers and the pad was probably.

694
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Don't know, why does that we should do one of

695
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:33.639
<v Speaker 1>them next, just so that it cleans it up.

696
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:36.960
<v Speaker 3>I think he's been nicer Cincinnati by the rest of it.

697
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't really have a problem with I did say that, Yeah,

698
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:43.039
<v Speaker 2>Rob wanted to go lower on the Reds, and then

699
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:45.559
<v Speaker 2>he realized he was predicting them as being worse than

700
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:48.480
<v Speaker 2>last year, and he said they hadn't changed, so then

701
00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:49.280
<v Speaker 2>he changed his mind.

702
00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:53.199
<v Speaker 3>That I like, But I just can't in my head

703
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:57.039
<v Speaker 3>get the Reds being good to sit right, I.

704
00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Guess you know it's not bad, But if we need

705
00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:06.199
<v Speaker 2>to lose them later. We definitely know where we're going. First,

706
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:09.679
<v Speaker 2>we thought were horrified that we that we nursed the Brewers.

707
00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:12.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we could have been nice Clebritors. So I'm good.

708
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:14.400
<v Speaker 3>Sorry for crashing your two man party.

709
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Hey, let's getting a bit intimate in here, so you know,

710
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:20.639
<v Speaker 2>it's it's always good to spread out. But you know,

711
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:23.280
<v Speaker 2>we were we were agreeing far too much.

712
00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:27.400
<v Speaker 1>We need more discourse because Gav's not Gave would have

713
00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:29.199
<v Speaker 1>come in here and said the Yankees are a seventy

714
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:30.880
<v Speaker 1>win team, and then we could have had a good argument.

715
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:35.519
<v Speaker 1>You know, we have savdyes of Rockies and the Mets.

716
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:38.320
<v Speaker 3>Ben, so yeah, the fun stuff.

717
00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:39.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, on purpose.

718
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:42.719
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, we just did the Tigers. I guess I

719
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:44.400
<v Speaker 1>guess it can be your go, Ben. If you want

720
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:46.599
<v Speaker 1>to pick a team, then let's do it.

721
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:49.280
<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's well we haven't you haven't touched the Al

722
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:50.760
<v Speaker 3>West yet. Should we do a team from there?

723
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:53.159
<v Speaker 2>How do we not do that?

724
00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:56.920
<v Speaker 3>How about the Mariners? It was deliberate, you were leaving

725
00:37:56.960 --> 00:37:57.559
<v Speaker 3>that one till last.

726
00:37:58.559 --> 00:37:59.000
<v Speaker 2>No, not.

727
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:04.320
<v Speaker 3>To the World Series? Right'll be good again?

728
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:05.039
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

729
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Not quite but close.

730
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:08.440
<v Speaker 2>No, nearly.

731
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:10.880
<v Speaker 3>They went to the World Series. They didn't win it,

732
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:11.679
<v Speaker 3>but they were in it.

733
00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:19.840
<v Speaker 2>They didn't work. Yes, fans then just did a rob.

734
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:24.039
<v Speaker 3>Maybe this year they will win it. No, I I

735
00:38:24.280 --> 00:38:27.199
<v Speaker 3>think they're going to be good again. Also, how great

736
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:29.760
<v Speaker 3>does the atmosphere look at that said already? I feel

737
00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:32.199
<v Speaker 3>like that opening series just seeing the like crowds there

738
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:34.760
<v Speaker 3>for like game one of one, six two, that was amazing.

739
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:36.559
<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's so that such a fun crowd

740
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:38.360
<v Speaker 3>when that team is good, which hasn't been very often lately.

741
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:39.679
<v Speaker 3>But I think they're gonna be good again this year.

742
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:43.719
<v Speaker 3>I think they win eighty eight games and maybe they

743
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:45.119
<v Speaker 3>do make it to the Word Series this year. And

744
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:46.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm just early not wrong.

745
00:38:48.199 --> 00:38:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I would I would get higher.

746
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:51.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go lower.

747
00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:56.519
<v Speaker 1>Okay, now there we go. Benet immediately got an argument.

748
00:38:57.639 --> 00:38:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we've got a fight on our hands. Yeah, absolutely,

749
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:03.440
<v Speaker 2>I had. I think they're clearly the best team in

750
00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:06.880
<v Speaker 2>this domnion, Like, I don't think it's that close clearly.

751
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:09.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's clear. I think they're close.

752
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I think it's I think it's whole central everywhere else.

753
00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:13.400
<v Speaker 1>You look at the other teams and I'm like, look

754
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:15.239
<v Speaker 1>at the Astrois and some guys the Astrois are playing

755
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:17.360
<v Speaker 1>and like, what are you doing? This is not the

756
00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:20.519
<v Speaker 1>old Astros. There's some really bad spots in that line.

757
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:24.239
<v Speaker 3>Some quite old line, which is anymore.

758
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:30.079
<v Speaker 1>Yes, no, and agree with their outfield is Bryce Matthews

759
00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:33.440
<v Speaker 1>and Jerry Locafida are in a platoon out there like

760
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:38.760
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not yeah exactly, and yet here we are.

761
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:41.800
<v Speaker 2>What did the Mariners add though? I mean they they've

762
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:44.920
<v Speaker 2>lost Polanco, who had a fantastic year. Yes, he played

763
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:48.079
<v Speaker 2>above his above his you know is his skills, but

764
00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:52.039
<v Speaker 2>he's gone and they haven't got Suarez anymore. So they've

765
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:54.880
<v Speaker 2>lost some power there in a in a notoriously difficult

766
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:57.000
<v Speaker 2>to hit home run run park, a bloker could do it.

767
00:39:57.280 --> 00:39:59.880
<v Speaker 2>And they picked up what like Brendan Donovan and Rob

768
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:03.000
<v Speaker 2>ref Snyder, Like, how is Rob Refsnyder still a major leaguer?

769
00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:06.480
<v Speaker 2>The bloke has been the most the most background, like

770
00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:09.559
<v Speaker 2>twenty sixth man roster for the for the last ten years.

771
00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:12.480
<v Speaker 2>And that's what they're hanging their hat on. I mean, really,

772
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:13.800
<v Speaker 2>is that is that what we're doing?

773
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:18.360
<v Speaker 1>The pinching was very hurt last year and they still

774
00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:21.199
<v Speaker 1>won night agains. That's that's not what I.

775
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:23.239
<v Speaker 3>Think they're hitting was a lot better than people thought

776
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:24.960
<v Speaker 3>last year. Is Carl Raally doing that again?

777
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Maybe here is no, absolutely not.

778
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:31.920
<v Speaker 1>They've got a full season of Josh Nayler this year.

779
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:36.000
<v Speaker 1>We sho didn't have Taylor Mega deal out to cole

780
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Almon Emerson, who I think is going to come up

781
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:38.599
<v Speaker 1>and be good for them.

782
00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:42.719
<v Speaker 2>And pray though, isn't it.

783
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give you some Rob Refsniders. That's what

784
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:50.960
<v Speaker 1>everyone was shouting out for. No, I'm just gonna I'm

785
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:52.800
<v Speaker 1>just gonna tell rot. I think the big problem the

786
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Mariton has had was that this line up is pretty

787
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:58.400
<v Speaker 1>lefty heavy, and so you know there is a concern

788
00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:03.480
<v Speaker 1>when they face left handed pitching. Rob Refsnider's career career

789
00:41:03.599 --> 00:41:06.880
<v Speaker 1>batting line against left handed pitching two eighty three, eighty one,

790
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:10.000
<v Speaker 1>four forty. That's an eight twenty two aps. So now

791
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:14.119
<v Speaker 1>only your twenty six man nonsense. This is quality platoon.

792
00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:18.800
<v Speaker 2>Bat respects very platoon like. He never does a full

793
00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:20.639
<v Speaker 2>season anyway. Does it mean yeah, maybe at the Red.

794
00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:26.079
<v Speaker 1>That's not not what he's there for. Is there to

795
00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:27.079
<v Speaker 1>hit left handed pitching?

796
00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:32.679
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I mean I had him at eighty five. I

797
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:35.639
<v Speaker 2>said a slight regression. I thought they had a mammoth

798
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:38.880
<v Speaker 2>year where everything went right for them. I didn't see

799
00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:41.280
<v Speaker 2>it going quite as right this year, but I can.

800
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:44.719
<v Speaker 2>I could probably see to Ben's middle ground. I'm certainly

801
00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:46.880
<v Speaker 2>not going higher than that without without a fire, okay

802
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:49.239
<v Speaker 2>with I don't think everything went right after all of

803
00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:49.840
<v Speaker 2>them last year.

804
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Gilbert was hurt, Kirby was hurt. We all looked the

805
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:55.599
<v Speaker 1>rotation and went, oh great, And actually I didn't get

806
00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:57.039
<v Speaker 1>a lot of innings out of the guys you thought

807
00:41:57.039 --> 00:41:57.280
<v Speaker 1>they were.

808
00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:03.239
<v Speaker 2>Can get a log any cub anyway, Darius, I think

809
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I had the Tigers. I think it's your go Yeah,

810
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:08.360
<v Speaker 2>I think it is me. Let's stay here, let's do

811
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:11.760
<v Speaker 2>the Angels, and let's say that the Angels are finally

812
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:13.559
<v Speaker 2>going to do it. They're finally going to lose one

813
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:16.440
<v Speaker 2>hundred games for the first time in their history, sixty

814
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:22.400
<v Speaker 2>two wins. I think that's a bad baseball team. It's

815
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:25.119
<v Speaker 2>a bad this is the this is the team now

816
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:28.599
<v Speaker 2>that I'm like, what are they doing? Even the Rockies

817
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:30.239
<v Speaker 2>sometimes now I'm like, oh, I kind of liked what

818
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:33.280
<v Speaker 2>they're interesting. They're trying some things. The Angels, I don't

819
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:37.159
<v Speaker 2>know what, like Adam Frasier. What the Angels trying to do?

820
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:39.760
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea what the Angels are trying to do.

821
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:42.239
<v Speaker 2>It seems directionless, completely pointless.

822
00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:48.079
<v Speaker 3>I have them a bit of men, yes, a little bit,

823
00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:50.639
<v Speaker 3>not a lot. Yeah, I do feel great getting on

824
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:53.000
<v Speaker 3>a pedestal and vouching for the Angels.

825
00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Like mid sixties you mean, yeah, yeah, I don't know.

826
00:42:57.760 --> 00:42:59.679
<v Speaker 3>I think I just saw healthy mic travel three games

827
00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:00.960
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, Wow, they're going to be great,

828
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:01.760
<v Speaker 3>because isn't he good?

829
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:05.199
<v Speaker 1>And I have not left he definitely plays full season.

830
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:08.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know. It's kind of crazy. You look

831
00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:09.960
<v Speaker 3>at some of the like the players they had last

832
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:11.679
<v Speaker 3>year who had like really good seasons and they were

833
00:43:11.719 --> 00:43:15.000
<v Speaker 3>still dreadful. So it's not hard to see them being

834
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:16.840
<v Speaker 3>worse this yearn't I don't know if I could name

835
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:18.360
<v Speaker 3>you many of their pictures, so.

836
00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:20.840
<v Speaker 1>That, yeah, pitching is real bad.

837
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:23.840
<v Speaker 2>I think boring is right up there, right up there,

838
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:26.079
<v Speaker 2>addy though, Isn't it like they've they've finally not got

839
00:43:26.119 --> 00:43:29.920
<v Speaker 2>the big stars where everything was going wrong and every

840
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:32.239
<v Speaker 2>single year we all predicted are this is the year,

841
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:35.000
<v Speaker 2>this is the year. So I reckon this year won't

842
00:43:35.039 --> 00:43:37.480
<v Speaker 2>be the awful year because because we can't predict that.

843
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:41.159
<v Speaker 2>So I had, yeah, mid mid sixties, like sixty six,

844
00:43:41.239 --> 00:43:46.360
<v Speaker 2>sixty seventy. I don't see they're worse than that. Come on,

845
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:54.000
<v Speaker 2>you've got rubbish Grayson Rodriguez, because he's clearly brilliant. So

846
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:55.119
<v Speaker 2>you want to do sixty six?

847
00:43:55.280 --> 00:43:55.400
<v Speaker 3>Is that?

848
00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Is that what we say?

849
00:43:56.840 --> 00:43:57.719
<v Speaker 3>Let's do sixty four.

850
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:01.480
<v Speaker 2>I won sixty sixty four. All right, I'll accept that

851
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:04.920
<v Speaker 2>for now. Again, I know where I'm I know where

852
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:06.360
<v Speaker 2>my losses, where my winds are going.

853
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:08.000
<v Speaker 1>They're's gonna tell us we're too high.

854
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's look at at that we need. Let's do

855
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:21.519
<v Speaker 2>the San Diego Padres. So can even that out on

856
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:25.840
<v Speaker 2>the on the graphic there, the San Diego Padres have

857
00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:29.320
<v Speaker 2>got worse. I think that's fairly fairly obvious. They're just

858
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:32.000
<v Speaker 2>getting a little bit older. Those stars haven't really starred

859
00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:36.800
<v Speaker 2>like your Bogarts is and your you know, yeah, your

860
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Machiados aren't aren't the power force. They're still decent players,

861
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:42.599
<v Speaker 2>They're still going to be a good team. I don't

862
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:44.400
<v Speaker 2>think they've got better. I think they've got a little

863
00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:48.000
<v Speaker 2>bit worse. There's obviously weird stuff going on behind the

864
00:44:48.039 --> 00:44:51.320
<v Speaker 2>scenes there with with with your ownership. So I think

865
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:53.840
<v Speaker 2>they take a step back from their ninety win season

866
00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:56.480
<v Speaker 2>last year and they go down to eighty five, and

867
00:44:56.599 --> 00:44:57.679
<v Speaker 2>that might be a bit generous.

868
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I could have been talked into anything between eighty and

869
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:04.880
<v Speaker 1>eighty five.

870
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:09.440
<v Speaker 3>I think had eighty five. I feel like they're really

871
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:11.960
<v Speaker 3>high variants. Like, if you told me they won seventy

872
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:13.519
<v Speaker 3>five games, I wouldn't be that shocked. If you told

873
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:15.480
<v Speaker 3>me they won ninety, I'd be a little bit shocked

874
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:18.199
<v Speaker 3>they won ninety five. But like that upside is pretty clear,

875
00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:20.280
<v Speaker 3>but also it feels like it could all bottom out

876
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:24.000
<v Speaker 3>this year. But I like them to mostly be good

877
00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:25.199
<v Speaker 3>because they have enough good players.

878
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:31.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think they're a team that like if another

879
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:33.639
<v Speaker 1>starting pitcher gets hurt, I think it's going to go

880
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:34.840
<v Speaker 1>bad real fast.

881
00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:35.599
<v Speaker 3>That's good.

882
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:39.679
<v Speaker 2>No, they signed a lot of guys, but I don't

883
00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:44.199
<v Speaker 2>think any of them are any good. So it feels

884
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:47.880
<v Speaker 2>like a like a red flag. That's that's the ViBe's

885
00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:48.599
<v Speaker 2>flag for me.

886
00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:53.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, healthy Jackson Merrill is really good.

887
00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah he's obviously this is really good, which maybe still good.

888
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:04.280
<v Speaker 2>The red hot takes that he's good. That is good.

889
00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Bullpen is bullpen is absolutely fire. I'll give I'll give

890
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:12.800
<v Speaker 1>him that, not just millions, the whole lot is incredible.

891
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:20.719
<v Speaker 2>On league minimum is by any normal measure, a really

892
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:26.840
<v Speaker 2>good deal. But it's the age. I don't know, I

893
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:27.320
<v Speaker 2>don't think it.

894
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:30.519
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to pay a guy who is not

895
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:37.599
<v Speaker 1>actually like good player anymore? Any money enough to give

896
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:40.000
<v Speaker 1>point eight war last season?

897
00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:43.159
<v Speaker 2>But he could be good. He could have been fip

898
00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:45.440
<v Speaker 2>because he can be good.

899
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:49.920
<v Speaker 1>The vibes though, yeah, the vibes are not great if

900
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:52.840
<v Speaker 1>they don't ask him to field and maybe platoon him

901
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:55.400
<v Speaker 1>a bit like, yeah, it could be all right fully minimum,

902
00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:56.559
<v Speaker 1>you might as well find out.

903
00:46:58.119 --> 00:46:58.960
<v Speaker 3>If it is right.

904
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:00.679
<v Speaker 1>Let's not go over.

905
00:47:03.559 --> 00:47:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Like the Mighty riff Slider.

906
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:08.239
<v Speaker 1>You laugh. But Rob Refsnyder has been out here in

907
00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:09.519
<v Speaker 1>Nick Castianus for a while now.

908
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:12.599
<v Speaker 3>Depressing.

909
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, this isn't the rod Refiner the podcast.

910
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Apparently. I'm just gonna say the name Bradley Rodriguez because

911
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:25.679
<v Speaker 2>he's my my reliever guy this year in the pres Wallpen.

912
00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:29.280
<v Speaker 2>And it looks like a made up name. It looks like.

913
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Somebody type O Bradley, but that is actually his name,

914
00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:37.599
<v Speaker 1>brad and he's great.

915
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:40.639
<v Speaker 2>So if you get a chance, go go watch him. Anyway,

916
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:45.920
<v Speaker 2>We've done the Padres and it's back to Ben.

917
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:50.000
<v Speaker 3>To me on, then let's do the Mets. Everyone's waiting

918
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:51.400
<v Speaker 3>for me to throw them out there.

919
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:54.519
<v Speaker 2>Meet the Mets. Here we go. I reckon, there's some

920
00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:55.239
<v Speaker 2>variants here.

921
00:47:56.079 --> 00:47:58.360
<v Speaker 3>You guys are going to believe this. But I've got

922
00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:04.639
<v Speaker 3>the Mets winning the NA least. I think it all

923
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:06.960
<v Speaker 3>went wrong for them last year. Surely it can't all

924
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:09.039
<v Speaker 3>way wrong for them again this year. They've spent a

925
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:12.320
<v Speaker 3>lot of money, brought in some good players, brought in

926
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:17.159
<v Speaker 3>some squint and maybe they're good players. And I still

927
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:20.519
<v Speaker 3>have question marks about about the rotation. And they're puting

928
00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:23.519
<v Speaker 3>a lot on Nolan McLean Shoulders, who seems to be awesome,

929
00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:26.599
<v Speaker 3>but he is still I believe rookie eligible and asking

930
00:48:26.679 --> 00:48:29.960
<v Speaker 3>him to be your ace seems like a big I guess.

931
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:31.039
<v Speaker 3>I know with Pearlton now he doesn't have to be

932
00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:32.360
<v Speaker 3>the ace, but I think he still has to be

933
00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:35.559
<v Speaker 3>very good for them to be good. But the lineup

934
00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:39.199
<v Speaker 3>is is legit. If Lindaor's how many injury isn't anything serious,

935
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:41.239
<v Speaker 3>which I don't think it is. I love them getting

936
00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:43.760
<v Speaker 3>Lewis Robert Jr. We all know what one Soto is,

937
00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:47.639
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I can't. I just can't quit this drug

938
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:49.559
<v Speaker 3>that is in New York Mets and I think they

939
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:52.119
<v Speaker 3>win ninety games and the division.

940
00:48:55.599 --> 00:48:57.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean what I see is a team gone like

941
00:48:57.920 --> 00:48:59.760
<v Speaker 2>oh I didn't go get rid of everybody, get a

942
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:02.039
<v Speaker 2>whole what do new people who are basically the same

943
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:04.800
<v Speaker 2>kind of like ah, like you know, and we're just

944
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:07.440
<v Speaker 2>we're just doing the whole thing again, like ah, everything's mad,

945
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:10.039
<v Speaker 2>It's just make it all happen all the manza. And

946
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:12.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't actually think that the result is

947
00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:14.679
<v Speaker 2>going to be any different. And I have them down

948
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:16.719
<v Speaker 2>for the exact same results as they had last year

949
00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:18.480
<v Speaker 2>it was eighty three wins and just missing out in

950
00:49:18.480 --> 00:49:22.840
<v Speaker 2>the playoffs. I just don't see it, Like what's you know,

951
00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:25.840
<v Speaker 2>like for every guy who had added, they've taken someone

952
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:28.840
<v Speaker 2>away who who is you know, or a couple of

953
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:30.320
<v Speaker 2>guys away to add up to the same kind of

954
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:34.679
<v Speaker 2>kind of kind of results. So like that weird, weird

955
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:38.519
<v Speaker 2>deal with Semian and you know what was that all about?

956
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Like so and half of these guys are going to

957
00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:44.159
<v Speaker 2>be playing out their proper positions as well, because because

958
00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:46.920
<v Speaker 2>it just doesn't add up. It's like they've just sort

959
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:48.880
<v Speaker 2>of swept the floor for like whoever happened to be

960
00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:51.039
<v Speaker 2>around it, or you'll do. There was no kind of

961
00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:53.599
<v Speaker 2>direction to it. It's just like I'll have that one,

962
00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll have that one. I love that one. I love

963
00:49:55.039 --> 00:49:56.920
<v Speaker 2>that one. I don't. I just don't see the plan.

964
00:49:57.440 --> 00:49:58.840
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't feel like a team with a plan. It

965
00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:01.840
<v Speaker 2>feels like a team desperately scrambling at the last things

966
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:04.880
<v Speaker 2>on the shelf before the hurricane hits. And I don't

967
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:06.360
<v Speaker 2>think it gives them anything better.

968
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:11.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't disagree, but maybe it worked.

969
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I think I lean more on Ben's side here.

970
00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:22.159
<v Speaker 2>I think they're probably going to be top five in

971
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:24.800
<v Speaker 2>the league and run scored. Whether the pitching falls apart

972
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:28.760
<v Speaker 2>is the question that's that's a very real possibility. But

973
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:30.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think I look at this line up

974
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:32.679
<v Speaker 2>and I think they're going to score a lot of runs.

975
00:50:33.039 --> 00:50:35.239
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of kind of insane the names they've got

976
00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:35.840
<v Speaker 2>in this line up.

977
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the defense is probably going to be terrible, and yeah,

978
00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:43.119
<v Speaker 1>if Nolan McClain isn't any good, then I don't know

979
00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:46.920
<v Speaker 1>who we relying on here. Clay Holmes ready Parolta code,

980
00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:49.400
<v Speaker 1>I think it. Yeah, it's just ready Parolter, isn't it. Yeah,

981
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:51.960
<v Speaker 1>But again, you know they have a lot of depth.

982
00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:54.599
<v Speaker 1>They have some interesting guys in the minus two I

983
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:58.280
<v Speaker 1>think could come up and fill in. I don't disagree with.

984
00:50:58.280 --> 00:51:00.280
<v Speaker 2>Your anyway, should be brilliant. And he turn that to

985
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:02.719
<v Speaker 2>be an absolute disaster. After one good start.

986
00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Young guy, you're gonna have to narrow it down for

987
00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:07.000
<v Speaker 1>the better.

988
00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:17.199
<v Speaker 2>And hearing lies the problem. But yeah, I would go

989
00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:19.920
<v Speaker 2>more towards the ninety than the eighty three.

990
00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:23.719
<v Speaker 3>Come on, Rob, get on the bandwagon. There's so much

991
00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:24.599
<v Speaker 3>room on the bandwagon.

992
00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:29.280
<v Speaker 2>It's lovely, so much m ninety three for the for

993
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:34.239
<v Speaker 2>that New York mets I said, I said ninety and

994
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:38.280
<v Speaker 2>I had what eighty three? Okay, well let's let's let's

995
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously there's two of you, so it should

996
00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:43.119
<v Speaker 2>pull slightly harder that way. So what like eighty eighty eight?

997
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I could do eighty eight.

998
00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:47.039
<v Speaker 3>That seems fair.

999
00:51:48.159 --> 00:51:49.679
<v Speaker 2>All you're gonna do is chip it away when we

1000
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:51.440
<v Speaker 2>need We need wins at the end, so that, yeah,

1001
00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:53.559
<v Speaker 2>I know what we're gonna what's gonna happen here? Don't

1002
00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:55.039
<v Speaker 2>don't think I don't see what you guys are.

1003
00:51:55.159 --> 00:51:57.239
<v Speaker 1>We haven't been very aggressive on anybody yet, so it's

1004
00:51:57.280 --> 00:51:58.719
<v Speaker 1>possible the alternative will be true.

1005
00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:03.519
<v Speaker 2>Rob what how do you name that? You was just picture?

1006
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Tell you what. Let's let's let's sort this out now

1007
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:11.079
<v Speaker 1>and be aggressive on somebody and did the Dodgers, who

1008
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:16.559
<v Speaker 1>I think pretty dramatically underperformed their talent last season and

1009
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:20.039
<v Speaker 1>won the Mod Series. And I'm just gonna say a

1010
00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:23.239
<v Speaker 1>hundred because it's the Dodgers and it's the ludicrous.

1011
00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:28.000
<v Speaker 2>What else is that to say we're not getting younger?

1012
00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Are they? That's you have to see a problem with them.

1013
00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:34.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, not many of us are to be to

1014
00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:38.239
<v Speaker 2>be honest, that is that is a truthful fact. But

1015
00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:42.079
<v Speaker 2>uh yeah, yeah, yes they're They're easily the best team

1016
00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:45.400
<v Speaker 2>out there. There's there's no denying it. I think one

1017
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:47.360
<v Speaker 2>hundred is a bit high after what they had last year.

1018
00:52:48.159 --> 00:52:50.800
<v Speaker 2>They haven't got I mean, they've added Kyle Tucker. That

1019
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:55.119
<v Speaker 2>is obviously a big, big, big improvement. I think Mookie

1020
00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Betts shouldn't be underestimated this year is obviously last year

1021
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:01.960
<v Speaker 2>he had that horrific wasting disease to start the season,

1022
00:53:03.039 --> 00:53:04.960
<v Speaker 2>and if he comes back at anything like sort of

1023
00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:09.159
<v Speaker 2>regular fitness. That that that's three four wins added immediately,

1024
00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:12.440
<v Speaker 2>so I could see him going up hundreds a bit higher.

1025
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:13.239
<v Speaker 2>I had ninety eight.

1026
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:18.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I also had ninety. I think, like Rob said,

1027
00:53:18.039 --> 00:53:19.960
<v Speaker 3>you can kind of squint and see how it could

1028
00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:22.320
<v Speaker 3>all go wrong in terms of an aging lineup and

1029
00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:27.119
<v Speaker 3>a rotation that is prone to injuries. But it's still

1030
00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:30.639
<v Speaker 3>the Dodgers. I am not concerned about them being bad.

1031
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:32.639
<v Speaker 3>I just think I probably am a bit lower, and

1032
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:35.280
<v Speaker 3>then then I have been in years past because of that.

1033
00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:37.320
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, if you want to say a hundred, I

1034
00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:38.800
<v Speaker 3>think they had the likeliest team to win a hundred,

1035
00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:40.159
<v Speaker 3>So wouldn't I wouldn't fight it that much.

1036
00:53:40.199 --> 00:53:42.559
<v Speaker 1>By Yeah, you both said ninety eight, so we can

1037
00:53:42.639 --> 00:53:43.199
<v Speaker 1>do ninety eight.

1038
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:46.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna that's the guy I was thinking of.

1039
00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:52.480
<v Speaker 1>If if Jena Tom's good or not, do we it's

1040
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:53.800
<v Speaker 1>not really have very much experience.

1041
00:53:57.239 --> 00:53:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think he came up, did a fantastic first start.

1042
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Everyone's like, Wow, he's going to be brilliant, and then

1043
00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:05.840
<v Speaker 2>he ended up like a seven or eight e ra A. Yeah, Yeah,

1044
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:09.280
<v Speaker 2>it definitely went bad after the first Yes, but I

1045
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:12.199
<v Speaker 2>think did he only make it six or seven starts

1046
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:14.360
<v Speaker 2>like it wasn't It wasn't.

1047
00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:15.519
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't very many.

1048
00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:21.599
<v Speaker 2>And he's quite young. Anyway, Moving on it, why I go,

1049
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:26.119
<v Speaker 2>it's your game? Which division are we short on? Let's

1050
00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:29.199
<v Speaker 2>talk about the Texas Rangers, because everyone loves it when

1051
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:33.159
<v Speaker 2>I talk about them. They're pretty parents. I don't think

1052
00:54:33.199 --> 00:54:35.280
<v Speaker 2>there's much interesting to say about the Rangers. I don't

1053
00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:37.239
<v Speaker 2>think they're going to be very good, but they're not

1054
00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:39.599
<v Speaker 2>going to be very bad either. I think we're looking

1055
00:54:39.639 --> 00:54:42.960
<v Speaker 2>at a in the range of seventy eight to eighty wins,

1056
00:54:43.159 --> 00:54:46.800
<v Speaker 2>so I'm going to say seventy nine. They've not done

1057
00:54:46.840 --> 00:54:53.199
<v Speaker 2>anything particularly spectacular. They've taken on some right wing guys, which, hey,

1058
00:54:53.280 --> 00:54:56.480
<v Speaker 2>if that's your poison, then crack on with that. Uh,

1059
00:54:56.920 --> 00:54:58.719
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of it. Really, there's not There's not an

1060
00:54:58.760 --> 00:55:01.360
<v Speaker 2>awful lot to get excited about with the Rangers, so

1061
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:04.639
<v Speaker 2>I think they sort of just dip a little bit

1062
00:55:05.159 --> 00:55:07.280
<v Speaker 2>and we end up with a seventy eight seventy nine

1063
00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:07.679
<v Speaker 2>man team.

1064
00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I think they're a bit better than that, but I

1065
00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:18.079
<v Speaker 1>was going to say like eight three. I like quite

1066
00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:19.440
<v Speaker 1>a few of their guys, but I don't think the

1067
00:55:19.719 --> 00:55:21.280
<v Speaker 1>complete package is there yet.

1068
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:24.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't like the mascot. That really putting me off.

1069
00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:28.719
<v Speaker 2>I think there's something that a horse had really doesn't

1070
00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:30.599
<v Speaker 2>work for me. I don't I don't like the mascots.

1071
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:34.159
<v Speaker 2>So they definitely lost a win for the mascot because

1072
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:35.559
<v Speaker 2>some of them are going to be stood there looking

1073
00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:41.079
<v Speaker 2>at and thinking that although they don't have any trees

1074
00:55:41.159 --> 00:55:45.599
<v Speaker 2>really in Texas, in the desert, and as we discussed

1075
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:48.840
<v Speaker 2>earlier in this sufferers of hay fever will not be

1076
00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:52.280
<v Speaker 2>as affected. So you know that there's a place whereby

1077
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:55.719
<v Speaker 2>they're playing against teams in California which do have hay

1078
00:55:55.800 --> 00:55:59.679
<v Speaker 2>fever issues, and maybe in the desert they will escape that.

1079
00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:06.960
<v Speaker 2>So there you go. Then I suspect to do with

1080
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:07.639
<v Speaker 2>hay fever.

1081
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:10.559
<v Speaker 3>I was about to make that same point. Yeah, I

1082
00:56:11.360 --> 00:56:13.239
<v Speaker 3>had them down for eighty two, so I was close

1083
00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:17.079
<v Speaker 3>to Darius. I like some of the pitching, especially, I

1084
00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:18.800
<v Speaker 3>think that says more about me than that the pitching

1085
00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:21.719
<v Speaker 3>actually being good. But you know, some of the guys

1086
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:23.559
<v Speaker 3>I just like to watch, like the Graham and Yourvaldi

1087
00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:26.679
<v Speaker 3>and Gore, and then like Jack lights King Rocket might

1088
00:56:26.719 --> 00:56:27.400
<v Speaker 3>be something.

1089
00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:29.679
<v Speaker 1>But I think I think Jack Lighte is gonna be

1090
00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:31.400
<v Speaker 1>pretty good. Actually, yeah, I quite like.

1091
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:32.639
<v Speaker 2>Jack if I'm honest.

1092
00:56:32.719 --> 00:56:35.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but also all of those names I just said

1093
00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:38.480
<v Speaker 3>somewhat prone, if not very prone to injury, so you

1094
00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:41.400
<v Speaker 3>can easually see it falling apart two. So yeah, I

1095
00:56:41.400 --> 00:56:42.960
<v Speaker 3>don't think they're a playoff team, but I probably have

1096
00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:46.719
<v Speaker 3>them above five hundred, just or around that mark. But yeah,

1097
00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:48.159
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna argue it too much.

1098
00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:53.039
<v Speaker 2>They lost quite a lot, but I mean, looking at them,

1099
00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:55.239
<v Speaker 2>they weren't they really weren't great last year. The guys

1100
00:56:55.239 --> 00:56:57.559
<v Speaker 2>they lost. I just I just looked at John Gray,

1101
00:56:57.599 --> 00:56:59.199
<v Speaker 2>who had a bit of a disaster of a year.

1102
00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:03.239
<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize he'd fallen quite that far. So you know,

1103
00:57:03.320 --> 00:57:05.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe it's it's addition by subtraction a little bit

1104
00:57:06.039 --> 00:57:06.599
<v Speaker 2>for these guys.

1105
00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:10.719
<v Speaker 1>And and what could be better for Vibes than starting

1106
00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:12.039
<v Speaker 1>Andrew McCutcheon.

1107
00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:19.880
<v Speaker 2>M hm, absolutely, yes, point, what's that?

1108
00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:22.239
<v Speaker 1>What do you accept? Eighty two or is that?

1109
00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:25.079
<v Speaker 2>Is that too rich? It feels like a real push.

1110
00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:28.360
<v Speaker 2>I can maybe get up to eighty two is a

1111
00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:31.800
<v Speaker 2>lot for that dreadful, dreadful team. That's just just an

1112
00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:35.599
<v Speaker 2>average tape, average dreadful and popular awful team. That was

1113
00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:41.559
<v Speaker 2>very lucky to get to the World Series. Uh, let's

1114
00:57:41.559 --> 00:57:43.719
<v Speaker 2>play a tiebreaker. Let's do a tiebreaker because that went

1115
00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:45.559
<v Speaker 2>so well last time we did it. All right, let's

1116
00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:46.719
<v Speaker 2>do a TIS.

1117
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:50.320
<v Speaker 1>But we're doing tiebreakers now, right?

1118
00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:53.159
<v Speaker 2>What to explain this for the listeners again, because it

1119
00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:55.239
<v Speaker 2>wasn't very clear first time as we we muffled the

1120
00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:58.360
<v Speaker 2>way through it. Uh, we will use a random non

1121
00:57:58.360 --> 00:58:04.039
<v Speaker 2>regenerator to pick a player. Darius will pick a random

1122
00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:06.679
<v Speaker 2>stat or pick a stat and then whoever gets closest

1123
00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:10.519
<v Speaker 2>to that stat for that player gets their their their

1124
00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:13.039
<v Speaker 2>shout wins. So I'm going to do a random number generation.

1125
00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:15.159
<v Speaker 2>It will all become clear. This is what we used

1126
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:18.400
<v Speaker 2>to do on B teams. So our player is number eight,

1127
00:58:18.519 --> 00:58:22.280
<v Speaker 2>is one, two, three, four, five, six, seven eight. I

1128
00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:25.280
<v Speaker 2>know who the player is. Pick a stat, Darius. We're

1129
00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:30.679
<v Speaker 2>looking for for someone in the lineup again, nother hit her? Okay,

1130
00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:36.519
<v Speaker 2>and any stat let's do ops last year ops? Okay,

1131
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:43.159
<v Speaker 2>we are looking at Evan Carter ops. So I'm gonna

1132
00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:46.400
<v Speaker 2>say Evan Carter's opia or Christ. He wasn't very good

1133
00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:51.159
<v Speaker 2>last year, was he? Let's maybe it's better than I thought.

1134
00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:54.519
<v Speaker 2>Through three twelve.

1135
00:58:56.280 --> 00:59:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Three twelve. Wow, that's slow. Ops.

1136
00:59:03.199 --> 00:59:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh so sorry, Okay, I thought you said obp okay, ops,

1137
00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:14.239
<v Speaker 2>let's go. Let's let's go for around five hundred, five hundred.

1138
00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:16.679
<v Speaker 3>I think it was bad, but not that bad. I'm

1139
00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:18.599
<v Speaker 3>gonna say six ten.

1140
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:23.599
<v Speaker 2>Am I also guessing heroes, this just between you two. Yes,

1141
00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:24.199
<v Speaker 2>you've got a guess too.

1142
00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:24.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1143
00:59:24.400 --> 00:59:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Whoever's closest gets the Yeah.

1144
00:59:26.599 --> 00:59:29.400
<v Speaker 1>That's the pick I think he got. He was hurt

1145
00:59:29.480 --> 00:59:32.239
<v Speaker 1>most of the year, so he probably wasn't as bad

1146
00:59:32.280 --> 00:59:33.840
<v Speaker 1>as you think. But you also didn't do very much.

1147
00:59:34.199 --> 00:59:39.039
<v Speaker 1>But I think it was six eighty. Put it's terrible.

1148
00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Go on what we got then, oh, maybe I can

1149
00:59:41.320 --> 00:59:43.559
<v Speaker 2>find him. This is this is where it's really seamless.

1150
00:59:43.639 --> 00:59:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Then you see it's really smooth, and we go straight

1151
00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:50.599
<v Speaker 2>to it and it's you know, b tam shenanigans.

1152
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:51.960
<v Speaker 3>We've never put up of this usually.

1153
00:59:52.119 --> 00:59:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's it worked better way when Russell

1154
00:59:55.480 --> 00:59:59.159
<v Speaker 2>Steve Veto's and everything, didn't you we had, we had

1155
00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:01.400
<v Speaker 2>all sorts going on. I've now even forgotten who was

1156
01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:03.400
<v Speaker 2>looking for. I've just accidently looked up Chris Carter rather

1157
01:00:03.440 --> 01:00:08.760
<v Speaker 2>than Evan Carter. I can tell you his his ops

1158
01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:13.480
<v Speaker 2>wasn't great at all last year. Oh okay, fine, it

1159
01:00:13.719 --> 01:00:20.639
<v Speaker 2>was better than we thought. Twenty five. Oh ps was

1160
01:00:21.159 --> 01:00:25.239
<v Speaker 2>seven twenty eight. I did not think he was that good. Okay,

1161
01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:27.599
<v Speaker 2>But I mean that means Darius, you had the highest one,

1162
01:00:27.599 --> 01:00:29.360
<v Speaker 2>didn't you? So you win? And you said eighty two?

1163
01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:31.000
<v Speaker 3>Did you? I did?

1164
01:00:31.159 --> 01:00:33.159
<v Speaker 2>So that's do eighty two? Okay, eighty two? It is.

1165
01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:34.840
<v Speaker 2>You see how seamless that was, Ben It was. It

1166
01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:38.079
<v Speaker 2>was like magic, you know, like the listeners won't know

1167
01:00:38.199 --> 01:00:40.800
<v Speaker 2>anything was chaotic about that whatsoever.

1168
01:00:41.880 --> 01:00:43.400
<v Speaker 1>You should have seen Rob's face when I told him

1169
01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:44.800
<v Speaker 1>we were going to make all these totals that up

1170
01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:46.559
<v Speaker 1>to twenty four hundred and thirty. It was like a

1171
01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:48.559
<v Speaker 1>blown his mind. But they never did that on the

1172
01:00:48.599 --> 01:00:49.239
<v Speaker 1>B Team show.

1173
01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:54.960
<v Speaker 2>We didn't didn't care for the rules. Yeah we won anyway.

1174
01:00:54.960 --> 01:01:00.679
<v Speaker 2>System I say we one one every year, carry carrying

1175
01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:01.039
<v Speaker 2>straight on.

1176
01:01:02.920 --> 01:01:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Russell absolutely ragged on the Blue Jays last year. I

1177
01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:06.440
<v Speaker 1>remember that distinctly.

1178
01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:10.159
<v Speaker 3>I didn't backfire at all. Yeah, I just do the

1179
01:01:10.199 --> 01:01:12.880
<v Speaker 3>Blue Jays. Now there is a team that did make

1180
01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:16.400
<v Speaker 3>the World Series last year. If I call correctly yes,

1181
01:01:17.119 --> 01:01:21.760
<v Speaker 3>to correct my earlier comment, I do think they're going

1182
01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:23.639
<v Speaker 3>to be good again. I do think that is a

1183
01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:28.119
<v Speaker 3>very hard division this year, as always, I suppose I

1184
01:01:28.199 --> 01:01:30.840
<v Speaker 3>think they will be better than the Orioles, but worse

1185
01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:33.400
<v Speaker 3>than the Red Sox. In fact, let's I'm going to

1186
01:01:33.440 --> 01:01:35.519
<v Speaker 3>split the difference between those two and put eighty nine.

1187
01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:38.480
<v Speaker 3>I had them a little bit lower in my own

1188
01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:41.280
<v Speaker 3>projections at eighty seven, but if we're doing Oriols eighty six,

1189
01:01:41.320 --> 01:01:42.840
<v Speaker 3>then maybe we give them an extra couple of wins.

1190
01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:46.360
<v Speaker 2>I had ninety, so I'm not I'm in the same

1191
01:01:47.639 --> 01:01:49.639
<v Speaker 2>bracket as you there. I think there was there was

1192
01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:52.920
<v Speaker 2>a bit of momentum with them last year, maybe not

1193
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:55.679
<v Speaker 2>quite as good as they ended up, but there's no

1194
01:01:55.760 --> 01:01:58.039
<v Speaker 2>doubt that they are a very good team. And you're

1195
01:01:58.039 --> 01:01:59.880
<v Speaker 2>absolutely right. This whole division is going to chip away

1196
01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:02.840
<v Speaker 2>each other and and course and damage. So I had ninety.

1197
01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:09.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like eighteen nine ninety. That seems fine to me.

1198
01:02:09.320 --> 01:02:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I think they were a little bit lucky last season

1199
01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:13.559
<v Speaker 1>to get as many wednesd as they did not and

1200
01:02:13.639 --> 01:02:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I didn't they were a good team. Like the off season,

1201
01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:18.480
<v Speaker 1>will pen is bad. Don't like the corp ass all,

1202
01:02:19.199 --> 01:02:22.400
<v Speaker 1>so that could be a problem. Yeah, I think I

1203
01:02:22.440 --> 01:02:23.400
<v Speaker 1>think eighty nine is fine.

1204
01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:26.960
<v Speaker 3>We should also factor in that they got absolutely boat

1205
01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:30.320
<v Speaker 3>raced by the Rockies last night and Cody Potts got injured, which.

1206
01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, great that as far as days going, Yeah, you don't.

1207
01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:39.239
<v Speaker 2>You don't want to see that getting boat raced by

1208
01:02:39.239 --> 01:02:42.360
<v Speaker 2>the Rockies. It's Do you like how we spent about

1209
01:02:42.360 --> 01:02:44.880
<v Speaker 2>ten minutes talking about the Rangers and then we've we've

1210
01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:49.440
<v Speaker 2>we've agreed on the Al Pennant winners in about thirty seconds.

1211
01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:52.199
<v Speaker 3>Well, they're going to be good. That's a good thing.

1212
01:02:52.199 --> 01:02:53.480
<v Speaker 3>We all agree. Yeah, they're good.

1213
01:02:53.559 --> 01:02:58.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, you started that with the Rangers rocking.

1214
01:02:58.199 --> 01:02:58.599
<v Speaker 2>That's you're.

1215
01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:00.880
<v Speaker 3>Right.

1216
01:03:01.960 --> 01:03:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Let's pick a team that we might have some disagreements over.

1217
01:03:04.840 --> 01:03:09.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to take the A's, the Sacramento A's, Yes,

1218
01:03:09.719 --> 01:03:12.360
<v Speaker 1>John Fisher, I am going to call them that you're

1219
01:03:12.440 --> 01:03:12.840
<v Speaker 1>right to do.

1220
01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:13.039
<v Speaker 3>So.

1221
01:03:14.199 --> 01:03:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're going to score a lot of runs and

1222
01:03:17.480 --> 01:03:20.199
<v Speaker 1>they might allow a lot more runs because the pitching

1223
01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:23.400
<v Speaker 1>is still real bad. So I think they're going to

1224
01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:27.880
<v Speaker 1>be like a seventy seven win team, not a lot

1225
01:03:27.920 --> 01:03:31.320
<v Speaker 1>of fun. Yeah, not not playoff contenders or anything.

1226
01:03:35.239 --> 01:03:38.599
<v Speaker 2>Key editions of Jeff McNeil and Adam Aaron Savali don't

1227
01:03:38.639 --> 01:03:41.760
<v Speaker 2>really feel you with confidence, but god, I fear Aaron

1228
01:03:41.800 --> 01:03:44.119
<v Speaker 2>Savali in the summer in Sacramento that is going to

1229
01:03:44.199 --> 01:03:52.159
<v Speaker 2>get may that said, I think they maybe were a

1230
01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:56.360
<v Speaker 2>little bit under their expectations last year. I think possibly

1231
01:03:56.440 --> 01:04:02.440
<v Speaker 2>partly adjusting to you know, using a greenhouse as are

1232
01:04:02.559 --> 01:04:06.360
<v Speaker 2>the dressing room. But I think maybe there's a little

1233
01:04:06.400 --> 01:04:08.760
<v Speaker 2>bit of that adjustment period and this is going to

1234
01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:11.960
<v Speaker 2>come up later again with the Rays. I think maybe

1235
01:04:12.199 --> 01:04:15.039
<v Speaker 2>perhaps that shock of playing that first year in that park,

1236
01:04:15.159 --> 01:04:16.519
<v Speaker 2>they kind of get over that a little bit. They

1237
01:04:16.639 --> 01:04:19.079
<v Speaker 2>understand it a little bit better. The players who are

1238
01:04:19.079 --> 01:04:21.159
<v Speaker 2>playing there maybe a little bit more prepared for it.

1239
01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:27.280
<v Speaker 2>So I don't think they're all that awful. I think

1240
01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:29.039
<v Speaker 2>they're a little bit better than last year. I had

1241
01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:30.360
<v Speaker 2>them for seventy nine.

1242
01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:36.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I felt similarly. I think I had them for

1243
01:04:36.239 --> 01:04:39.679
<v Speaker 3>seventy I hadn't for eighty. I really want to believe

1244
01:04:39.679 --> 01:04:41.239
<v Speaker 3>in them, because, like you say, the lineup is really

1245
01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:43.239
<v Speaker 3>good and it has a lot of players that I

1246
01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:45.519
<v Speaker 3>like in it. So it feels like they're going to

1247
01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:47.119
<v Speaker 3>be quite a fun team to watch bat. It's just

1248
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:48.840
<v Speaker 3>they're going to be a really not fun team to

1249
01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:54.519
<v Speaker 3>watch pitch, especially in that ballpark. So yeah, I don't know.

1250
01:04:54.599 --> 01:04:56.599
<v Speaker 3>It feels like they're kind of a trendy like dark

1251
01:04:56.639 --> 01:04:58.440
<v Speaker 3>horse playoff team again this year, aren't they which they

1252
01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:01.400
<v Speaker 3>were last year? And maybe things go better this year,

1253
01:05:01.800 --> 01:05:05.239
<v Speaker 3>but I I don't want to predict that to happen.

1254
01:05:05.320 --> 01:05:07.960
<v Speaker 3>So I've got them to eighty. But don't feel strong me.

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01:05:09.519 --> 01:05:10.519
<v Speaker 2>What did you have, Darius?

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01:05:11.519 --> 01:05:16.679
<v Speaker 1>I said, seventy seven? Okay, seven world class together.

1257
01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Let's do that. Yeah, seventy eight okay, Oh, it's my goal. Right.

1258
01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:33.719
<v Speaker 2>Let's look at the well, let's look at the Cardinals.

1259
01:05:33.719 --> 01:05:37.239
<v Speaker 2>I've seen a bit of them over the weekend. JJ

1260
01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:39.840
<v Speaker 2>weather Hot looks like he's going to be good. And

1261
01:05:39.960 --> 01:05:42.079
<v Speaker 2>that's about all I can say that's good about the Cardinals.

1262
01:05:45.280 --> 01:05:48.800
<v Speaker 2>That they're fine, They're they're okay, They're they're a little

1263
01:05:48.800 --> 01:05:51.599
<v Speaker 2>bit less good than okay. I don't think they're massively

1264
01:05:51.679 --> 01:05:55.159
<v Speaker 2>less good than okay, but they're not uprooting any trees

1265
01:05:55.199 --> 01:05:57.840
<v Speaker 2>and exciting us this year. But but hey, weather Hop

1266
01:05:57.880 --> 01:05:59.880
<v Speaker 2>does look good. I'm not gonna he really does look good.

1267
01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:06.639
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna say maybe a sort of seventy nine,

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01:06:06.880 --> 01:06:10.519
<v Speaker 2>seventy eight, they're just a bit under good in a

1269
01:06:11.239 --> 01:06:13.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's going to be a particularly rewarding division.

1270
01:06:13.719 --> 01:06:15.599
<v Speaker 2>I think I think middling is what most of this

1271
01:06:15.679 --> 01:06:17.679
<v Speaker 2>division is going to end up being. So I think

1272
01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:20.039
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna they're gonna be the bottom end of the middling.

1273
01:06:20.159 --> 01:06:22.239
<v Speaker 2>So maybe maybe a little bit. Le's maybe he's seventy seven,

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01:06:22.360 --> 01:06:25.039
<v Speaker 2>seventy six. I can't see him going much lower than that.

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01:06:25.119 --> 01:06:28.000
<v Speaker 2>They're they're fine, They're okay, They're not bad. The pitching

1276
01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:29.480
<v Speaker 2>is a worry.

1277
01:06:31.639 --> 01:06:37.039
<v Speaker 1>I think they're pretty bad. Yeah, yeah, okay, the pitching,

1278
01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:39.280
<v Speaker 1>I think I think a worry is understanding it. I

1279
01:06:39.360 --> 01:06:41.679
<v Speaker 1>think the pitching is dreadful. It's pretty dreadful.

1280
01:06:41.760 --> 01:06:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean their opening day Star Tours

1281
01:06:43.920 --> 01:06:45.199
<v Speaker 2>Matthy Librator.

1282
01:06:44.800 --> 01:06:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Which, yeah, it's done some like interesting things maybe, but yeah,

1283
01:06:50.280 --> 01:06:53.199
<v Speaker 1>Dustin May got absolutely shill act over the weekend was

1284
01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:57.280
<v Speaker 1>ugly to watch, and the lineup is not really like, yeah,

1285
01:06:57.280 --> 01:06:58.519
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you about weather hot, I think it's

1286
01:06:58.519 --> 01:07:01.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a great player, wins could short stop, and

1287
01:07:01.519 --> 01:07:04.360
<v Speaker 1>then it's a lot of do we have anything? I

1288
01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:07.679
<v Speaker 1>think is the rest of the philosophy for this Cardinals lineup, Like,

1289
01:07:07.840 --> 01:07:09.920
<v Speaker 1>let's just give it a try and see what happens

1290
01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:14.239
<v Speaker 1>is good bursting. Yeah, Burleston's solid. Yeah, he's a good thing.

1291
01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:16.400
<v Speaker 1>But there's there's there's a lot of we're trying it out,

1292
01:07:16.440 --> 01:07:18.800
<v Speaker 1>you know. No, No, Don Gorman can't hit k like

1293
01:07:19.039 --> 01:07:20.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not happening.

1294
01:07:22.119 --> 01:07:25.079
<v Speaker 3>Again in year fourteen of the this is the year

1295
01:07:25.159 --> 01:07:27.320
<v Speaker 3>Jordan Walker breaks out. At least that's what it feels.

1296
01:07:28.400 --> 01:07:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I've been burned too many times spent by Jordan Walker.

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01:07:31.880 --> 01:07:33.440
<v Speaker 1>It's still probably like twenty four, isn't he?

1298
01:07:34.760 --> 01:07:37.199
<v Speaker 3>He probably is really young. Yeah, he's twenty four.

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01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:39.920
<v Speaker 1>It's twenty three.

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01:07:40.079 --> 01:07:44.559
<v Speaker 2>See hey, twenty four season. Yeah, this is what happens

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01:07:44.599 --> 01:07:46.159
<v Speaker 2>when you come up with like nineteen or whatever it

1302
01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:46.639
<v Speaker 2>was he was.

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01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Was he twenty one? Maybe he was twenty one ready, Yes,

1304
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:50.760
<v Speaker 1>I think it was twenty. Wasn't it because he came

1305
01:07:50.840 --> 01:07:54.400
<v Speaker 1>up by an opening day or close to it? Anyway, No,

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01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:55.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe.

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01:07:57.119 --> 01:08:00.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I had them for seventy. It feels weird predicting

1308
01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:02.840
<v Speaker 3>the Cardinals be bad because they always seem to be

1309
01:08:02.960 --> 01:08:04.760
<v Speaker 3>kind of in and around the mix or at least

1310
01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:06.719
<v Speaker 3>five hundred. But this I think this is the year

1311
01:08:06.800 --> 01:08:08.519
<v Speaker 3>it bombs out a bit for them, And I think

1312
01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:09.960
<v Speaker 3>they kind of know it. I don't think they're really

1313
01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:12.760
<v Speaker 3>trying to compete. This isn't a roster that looks like

1314
01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:15.480
<v Speaker 3>one that would compete. So so yeah, let's see what happens.

1315
01:08:15.519 --> 01:08:17.399
<v Speaker 3>Maybe a few of these guys, do you know, break

1316
01:08:17.439 --> 01:08:19.079
<v Speaker 3>out and you've got something. But I don't think it's

1317
01:08:19.119 --> 01:08:21.600
<v Speaker 3>the year that they shock everyone and make a run

1318
01:08:21.680 --> 01:08:23.560
<v Speaker 3>in that division. So I had him a bit lead

1319
01:08:23.560 --> 01:08:24.640
<v Speaker 3>than you're Robert at seventy.

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01:08:25.560 --> 01:08:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I'm bloom is very much looking at

1321
01:08:27.760 --> 01:08:30.680
<v Speaker 1>future years. I do not think he is planning to compete.

1322
01:08:32.279 --> 01:08:37.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I suppose they lost Contreras, Michaelis, Aeronado Gray. They

1323
01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:39.920
<v Speaker 2>was significant what went out. I maybe didn't consider that

1324
01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:42.479
<v Speaker 2>quiet enough. I can come down. I can come down.

1325
01:08:44.560 --> 01:08:45.800
<v Speaker 1>When do you go to seventy or seventy?

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01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Ok? No, that's too low. Seventy three?

1327
01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Are we playing a game?

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01:08:50.439 --> 01:08:53.720
<v Speaker 2>Then? Fine, we can play the game. Let's let's play

1329
01:08:53.800 --> 01:08:55.640
<v Speaker 2>this really seamless exciting game again.

1330
01:08:56.920 --> 01:09:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, right, break, this is the third time. Now Robbie

1331
01:09:01.680 --> 01:09:03.079
<v Speaker 1>should be flowing on this.

1332
01:09:04.279 --> 01:09:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, Hey, Hey, pick me a start. I'm rolling

1333
01:09:07.279 --> 01:09:07.760
<v Speaker 2>the numbers.

1334
01:09:08.520 --> 01:09:11.039
<v Speaker 1>Are we picking a hit a stat again or Pat?

1335
01:09:11.319 --> 01:09:14.000
<v Speaker 2>That's a good point one, two, three, four. But this

1336
01:09:14.079 --> 01:09:20.640
<v Speaker 2>is really technical five six, seven, eight nine, nineteen twenty. No,

1337
01:09:20.800 --> 01:09:25.119
<v Speaker 2>we are looking at for a picture picture any pitching

1338
01:09:25.159 --> 01:09:30.239
<v Speaker 2>stat Okay, that that be shuld want to pick h

1339
01:09:31.560 --> 01:09:35.239
<v Speaker 2>Let's do strikeouts? Why not strikeouts? Okay, and we're looking

1340
01:09:35.279 --> 01:09:41.800
<v Speaker 2>for Jojo Romero. Okay. I quite liked him. I think

1341
01:09:41.800 --> 01:09:43.279
<v Speaker 2>I had him on my fantasy team last year.

1342
01:09:44.720 --> 01:09:47.079
<v Speaker 1>He pitched pretty well, didn't he. I think he was

1343
01:09:47.159 --> 01:09:47.560
<v Speaker 1>quite good.

1344
01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:49.119
<v Speaker 2>I think it was quite good. It was quite a

1345
01:09:49.159 --> 01:09:52.479
<v Speaker 2>good main setup guy for that and he got he

1346
01:09:52.560 --> 01:09:55.119
<v Speaker 2>got some sayings once they traded Hellsley to the nets

1347
01:09:55.159 --> 01:09:58.840
<v Speaker 2>as well. He throws, he throws hard, So I think

1348
01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:02.479
<v Speaker 2>I think it's he's he is a strikeout guy. I think.

1349
01:10:04.199 --> 01:10:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I think he pitched all year. I don't remember him

1350
01:10:06.039 --> 01:10:06.399
<v Speaker 1>being hurt.

1351
01:10:07.680 --> 01:10:10.199
<v Speaker 2>So let's say he probably got through sixty seventy innings.

1352
01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:15.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to say eighty four.

1353
01:10:16.760 --> 01:10:17.439
<v Speaker 2>Feels low to me.

1354
01:10:20.199 --> 01:10:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Wow, you really think he's a strikeout guy, don't you.

1355
01:10:22.840 --> 01:10:26.520
<v Speaker 2>I think he's a strikeout guy. I'm gonna go for

1356
01:10:26.840 --> 01:10:28.920
<v Speaker 2>for ninety five.

1357
01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:32.479
<v Speaker 1>Wow, I'm going to go for sixty seven.

1358
01:10:32.680 --> 01:10:35.119
<v Speaker 2>For the kids of Churus. I really should have been

1359
01:10:35.119 --> 01:10:41.880
<v Speaker 2>looking this up last I also did this. Okay, twenty twenty.

1360
01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:50.079
<v Speaker 2>This is great, this is brilliant. It's not even as

1361
01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:54.600
<v Speaker 2>if this is a difficult one to find. Strikeout. Okay, yep,

1362
01:10:54.680 --> 01:10:56.079
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't as good as we thought. He was only

1363
01:10:56.319 --> 01:11:01.479
<v Speaker 2>fifty five. He pitched sixty one innings of fifty five strikeouts.

1364
01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:05.079
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's that's a Darius win. Again, we were

1365
01:11:05.119 --> 01:11:08.319
<v Speaker 2>down to seventeen for the Cardinals. So why did I

1366
01:11:08.399 --> 01:11:10.479
<v Speaker 2>pitch this game? Which I'm terrible at when I'm playing

1367
01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:12.239
<v Speaker 2>against Darius. This is ridiculous.

1368
01:11:12.960 --> 01:11:14.880
<v Speaker 1>I was all prepared to just do it the normal way, Rob,

1369
01:11:14.920 --> 01:11:18.000
<v Speaker 1>and then you came in with you my b team.

1370
01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Craziness be seen.

1371
01:11:19.800 --> 01:11:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Craziness All right, Ben?

1372
01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:24.119
<v Speaker 3>Did you do that?

1373
01:11:24.199 --> 01:11:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Or did Rob do that?

1374
01:11:27.039 --> 01:11:29.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? It's my turn, I think, So let's let's do

1375
01:11:29.359 --> 01:11:34.039
<v Speaker 3>the Washington Nationals. They're going to be bad, aren't they. Yeah?

1376
01:11:35.359 --> 01:11:36.880
<v Speaker 3>I know some people think they might be the worst

1377
01:11:36.920 --> 01:11:38.960
<v Speaker 3>in the base Way. I think the Rockies will be worse.

1378
01:11:39.239 --> 01:11:41.119
<v Speaker 3>I probably think the White Socks will be worse too,

1379
01:11:41.199 --> 01:11:43.760
<v Speaker 3>but I don't think they're going to be tearing up trees.

1380
01:11:43.800 --> 01:11:45.880
<v Speaker 3>I had them down for sixty four, just avoiding the

1381
01:11:46.520 --> 01:11:49.479
<v Speaker 3>one hundred lost Mark, So I think you're like enough

1382
01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:52.479
<v Speaker 3>guys that are like kind of interesting. Again, it's a

1383
01:11:52.520 --> 01:11:54.800
<v Speaker 3>little bit similar to the Cardinals, but worse than the Cardinals,

1384
01:11:54.840 --> 01:11:57.039
<v Speaker 3>but kind of like seeing what some guys have. We

1385
01:11:57.079 --> 01:11:59.640
<v Speaker 3>obviously know James Wood is good, despite my protestations, But

1386
01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:02.199
<v Speaker 3>side of that, it's a bunch of like, maybe we've

1387
01:12:02.239 --> 01:12:05.319
<v Speaker 3>got something, you know, maybe we don't. Hopefully we see

1388
01:12:05.359 --> 01:12:07.399
<v Speaker 3>some playing time for Harry Ford, yeah, which would be

1389
01:12:07.399 --> 01:12:09.359
<v Speaker 3>final though shame he didn't make the opening day roster.

1390
01:12:11.239 --> 01:12:12.800
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I think some of the like Joey Vema

1391
01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:14.520
<v Speaker 3>has been enough to a nice start. What saying that?

1392
01:12:14.600 --> 01:12:17.159
<v Speaker 3>Like Wema Via anyway, he's enough to a nice start. Like,

1393
01:12:17.199 --> 01:12:19.119
<v Speaker 3>there's some guys that I think could be quite fun,

1394
01:12:20.119 --> 01:12:22.279
<v Speaker 3>but I still think, Yeah, I think they're gonna ultimately

1395
01:12:22.399 --> 01:12:25.159
<v Speaker 3>be bad, especially because they traded away Gore. I don't

1396
01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:27.640
<v Speaker 3>even know if their rotation has got anyone good in

1397
01:12:27.680 --> 01:12:30.119
<v Speaker 3>it at this point. So yeah, sixty four for me,

1398
01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:31.880
<v Speaker 3>and that might even be generous.

1399
01:12:32.319 --> 01:12:33.800
<v Speaker 1>What are you saying about a friend of the podcast,

1400
01:12:33.880 --> 01:12:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Miles Michael has Ben.

1401
01:12:36.640 --> 01:12:39.720
<v Speaker 3>I love Miles michaelas but buddy, hang them up.

1402
01:12:40.960 --> 01:12:42.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's bad.

1403
01:12:43.119 --> 01:12:44.359
<v Speaker 1>Weamer, I believe it.

1404
01:12:44.479 --> 01:12:46.399
<v Speaker 3>Is wema. Is it okay?

1405
01:12:46.520 --> 01:12:49.279
<v Speaker 2>Jerry Weimer him a bit too German, he went, He

1406
01:12:49.319 --> 01:12:50.880
<v Speaker 2>went on that here.

1407
01:12:53.960 --> 01:12:54.199
<v Speaker 3>I was.

1408
01:12:54.319 --> 01:12:56.319
<v Speaker 2>I was in the same area. I was sixty six

1409
01:12:57.479 --> 01:13:01.640
<v Speaker 2>had them repeating last year. But yeah, I'm in certainly

1410
01:13:01.640 --> 01:13:03.800
<v Speaker 2>in the same area for what is a quite bad

1411
01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:09.800
<v Speaker 2>team off the charts because you know all that cherry blossom.

1412
01:13:09.920 --> 01:13:12.000
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's it's the hay Fever's going to be

1413
01:13:12.039 --> 01:13:13.960
<v Speaker 2>what what kills them? All Right?

1414
01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm docking them a point for the hate fever. Rob

1415
01:13:16.920 --> 01:13:24.359
<v Speaker 1>so and keep the difference. Okay, let's have a look.

1416
01:13:26.920 --> 01:13:29.239
<v Speaker 1>Why don't we do what you mentioned the ben Let's

1417
01:13:29.279 --> 01:13:35.560
<v Speaker 1>just do the Rockies. I was I was disappointed that

1418
01:13:35.640 --> 01:13:37.680
<v Speaker 1>they didn't end up with the worst record last year

1419
01:13:37.720 --> 01:13:40.279
<v Speaker 1>because they were definitely the worst team in the history baseball.

1420
01:13:41.680 --> 01:13:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Have they improved a little bit? Yeah, probably a little bit,

1421
01:13:45.039 --> 01:13:46.560
<v Speaker 1>which probably means they're going to win.

1422
01:13:46.680 --> 01:13:47.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

1423
01:13:47.560 --> 01:13:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Can we give them fifty five wins?

1424
01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:55.159
<v Speaker 2>Is that is that fair? I think that's bold. Yeah.

1425
01:13:55.159 --> 01:13:58.279
<v Speaker 2>I had them lowered two. I had them improving, but

1426
01:13:58.359 --> 01:14:00.359
<v Speaker 2>not by that much that I mean that they had

1427
01:14:00.439 --> 01:14:03.279
<v Speaker 2>forty three wins last year. That's that's quite a leap.

1428
01:14:04.319 --> 01:14:06.199
<v Speaker 2>And I mean, what have they added.

1429
01:14:08.880 --> 01:14:12.159
<v Speaker 1>A bunch of random stuff? Yeah, pretty much.

1430
01:14:12.239 --> 01:14:13.720
<v Speaker 2>Have a look. Who's the highlight here?

1431
01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

1432
01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Who is a Kintana? Yes, the the aging home run

1433
01:14:17.800 --> 01:14:20.880
<v Speaker 2>merchant is going to do really really well in cause. Yeah, absolutely,

1434
01:14:22.920 --> 01:14:26.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm not feeling that much. Willie Castro, he was almost

1435
01:14:26.479 --> 01:14:30.720
<v Speaker 2>good ten years ago. Nope, So no, I'm I'm more

1436
01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:35.239
<v Speaker 2>on the ben end of the scale of j Well.

1437
01:14:35.279 --> 01:14:36.560
<v Speaker 3>I was going to put the now for fifty, but

1438
01:14:36.600 --> 01:14:38.319
<v Speaker 3>then I was so impressed by performance last night. I'm

1439
01:14:38.319 --> 01:14:39.039
<v Speaker 3>giving him fifty one.

1440
01:14:41.159 --> 01:14:43.279
<v Speaker 2>I had fifty as well, so I will go to

1441
01:14:43.319 --> 01:14:44.000
<v Speaker 2>your fifty one.

1442
01:14:44.479 --> 01:14:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go to fifty one. I'm happy to

1443
01:14:46.760 --> 01:14:48.600
<v Speaker 1>end fifty one. I'm never going to because anybody whoays

1444
01:14:48.640 --> 01:14:51.119
<v Speaker 1>the lower on the rockets, I will.

1445
01:14:51.039 --> 01:14:54.159
<v Speaker 3>Say, like, I think the new front office maybe knows

1446
01:14:54.199 --> 01:14:57.039
<v Speaker 3>what they're doing. I'm somewhat optimistic about the long, long,

1447
01:14:57.159 --> 01:14:59.640
<v Speaker 3>long term future of this team, but as of right now,

1448
01:14:59.680 --> 01:15:00.560
<v Speaker 3>they are bad.

1449
01:15:01.159 --> 01:15:04.560
<v Speaker 2>You you keep you keep your pecker up that you go, Yeah, absolutely,

1450
01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:05.479
<v Speaker 2>good luck to you.

1451
01:15:05.560 --> 01:15:08.239
<v Speaker 3>I think is a good baseball player.

1452
01:15:08.479 --> 01:15:11.319
<v Speaker 1>What I will say is it's encouraging that they've actually

1453
01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:15.319
<v Speaker 1>got and hired somebody from outside the organization. That's that's

1454
01:15:15.399 --> 01:15:17.800
<v Speaker 1>the thing that gives me some hope that they've realized

1455
01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:20.279
<v Speaker 1>that they are doing things wrong, because for most of

1456
01:15:20.359 --> 01:15:22.720
<v Speaker 1>the previous decade it didn't seem like they had realized,

1457
01:15:23.359 --> 01:15:24.920
<v Speaker 1>and so they just kept getting worse.

1458
01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:29.479
<v Speaker 3>It is hilarious that Kyle Freeland was the opening day

1459
01:15:29.520 --> 01:15:31.479
<v Speaker 3>starter again. I think he's a record holder for the

1460
01:15:31.560 --> 01:15:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Rockies now and he's just I'm just gonna do it forever,

1461
01:15:34.119 --> 01:15:35.479
<v Speaker 3>isn't it getting worse and worse and worse.

1462
01:15:35.760 --> 01:15:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Him and Senseer Teller are just incredible out there, like

1463
01:15:39.720 --> 01:15:41.359
<v Speaker 1>just out there every week, doesn't matter.

1464
01:15:46.239 --> 01:15:50.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the heroes, heroes for turning up that cheery note. Rob,

1465
01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:53.399
<v Speaker 2>it's you. Well, let's we we just did Ben, Let's

1466
01:15:53.399 --> 01:15:55.840
<v Speaker 2>go to mind. I'm going to take the Tampa Bay Rays,

1467
01:15:56.439 --> 01:15:58.760
<v Speaker 2>who I don't think are as bad as everyone is

1468
01:15:58.880 --> 01:16:01.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of making out. I think they're the forgotten part

1469
01:16:01.439 --> 01:16:06.039
<v Speaker 2>of that division, and I alluded to it earlier. I genuinely,

1470
01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:10.279
<v Speaker 2>having sat in that horrendous stadium last year, think the

1471
01:16:10.439 --> 01:16:14.520
<v Speaker 2>heat was a major factor for that team. There was

1472
01:16:14.560 --> 01:16:17.239
<v Speaker 2>also a little bit of social media they did on

1473
01:16:17.399 --> 01:16:19.239
<v Speaker 2>when they were all walking in saying, oh, what are

1474
01:16:19.279 --> 01:16:22.079
<v Speaker 2>you looking forward? To much about the Trump. Every single person,

1475
01:16:22.159 --> 01:16:25.199
<v Speaker 2>to a man said the AC And now I think

1476
01:16:25.399 --> 01:16:28.079
<v Speaker 2>they started okay last year and they died, died of

1477
01:16:28.159 --> 01:16:29.840
<v Speaker 2>death as it went towards summer, because I think that

1478
01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:33.399
<v Speaker 2>heat was draining. I sat in that stadium for two games,

1479
01:16:33.640 --> 01:16:35.119
<v Speaker 2>one of them was a day game, and I can

1480
01:16:35.199 --> 01:16:37.279
<v Speaker 2>tell you I have never been hotter in my life.

1481
01:16:37.359 --> 01:16:39.840
<v Speaker 2>I've never sweat so much in my life. Like I

1482
01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:42.319
<v Speaker 2>ordered an ice cream and like it didn't make it

1483
01:16:42.439 --> 01:16:45.119
<v Speaker 2>back to the sea. It was horrendous. There is no

1484
01:16:45.319 --> 01:16:48.199
<v Speaker 2>shade there, there is no breeze there. It was a

1485
01:16:48.399 --> 01:16:52.119
<v Speaker 2>hellish healthscape of a place to play baseball. Baseball should

1486
01:16:52.159 --> 01:16:56.239
<v Speaker 2>not be played outdoors in Florida. It was an absolute no.

1487
01:16:56.640 --> 01:17:00.520
<v Speaker 2>And it wasn't just hot, it was humid beyond d

1488
01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:03.039
<v Speaker 2>And I just I think if anybody is trying to

1489
01:17:03.079 --> 01:17:05.800
<v Speaker 2>play in that game after game after game, that cumulative

1490
01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:08.359
<v Speaker 2>effect of that it was draining, and it cannot be

1491
01:17:08.439 --> 01:17:11.119
<v Speaker 2>good for performance of an athlete over the long term.

1492
01:17:11.239 --> 01:17:14.039
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm gonna say most of them, I would imagine,

1493
01:17:14.039 --> 01:17:17.039
<v Speaker 2>are probably slightly fitter and healthier and more able towithstand

1494
01:17:17.079 --> 01:17:19.960
<v Speaker 2>it than me. But over eighty games in that stadium.

1495
01:17:20.479 --> 01:17:21.720
<v Speaker 2>It was not the way to go. They had to

1496
01:17:21.800 --> 01:17:23.840
<v Speaker 2>move away from the stadium and the heat in the

1497
01:17:23.880 --> 01:17:26.119
<v Speaker 2>middle of summer because it was so bad. So I

1498
01:17:26.239 --> 01:17:27.840
<v Speaker 2>think the Rays are gonna have a bit of a

1499
01:17:27.880 --> 01:17:30.000
<v Speaker 2>bounce back. I don't think the moves they made her

1500
01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:32.199
<v Speaker 2>any good. I think getting rid of brand allowed for

1501
01:17:32.520 --> 01:17:35.439
<v Speaker 2>Gavin Lux was a bit of a disaster move. I

1502
01:17:35.479 --> 01:17:37.600
<v Speaker 2>don't think there's any power in the team whatsoever other

1503
01:17:37.720 --> 01:17:41.840
<v Speaker 2>than junior Cameronero. They're hitting brilliant for average right now,

1504
01:17:41.880 --> 01:17:45.720
<v Speaker 2>and hey, maybe that continues, but I still think they

1505
01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:47.920
<v Speaker 2>are going to be slightly better than their were last year.

1506
01:17:49.199 --> 01:17:51.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm not seeing them tearing up any trees or anything,

1507
01:17:51.239 --> 01:17:53.119
<v Speaker 2>but I am. I'm having them back to evens on

1508
01:17:53.199 --> 01:17:53.720
<v Speaker 2>eighty one.

1509
01:17:57.079 --> 01:17:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Sounds fine.

1510
01:18:00.560 --> 01:18:02.880
<v Speaker 3>I had them quite a lot lower. I think they're

1511
01:18:03.119 --> 01:18:05.800
<v Speaker 3>just as bad as last year, if not worse, but

1512
01:18:05.880 --> 01:18:07.800
<v Speaker 3>with their conditioning. So I haven't done for I haven't

1513
01:18:07.800 --> 01:18:09.680
<v Speaker 3>down for seventy three, which is harsh, but I just

1514
01:18:09.800 --> 01:18:12.439
<v Speaker 3>like the rest of the division is really good. I

1515
01:18:12.439 --> 01:18:15.680
<v Speaker 3>don't think the are like some someone's going to get

1516
01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:17.079
<v Speaker 3>beat up on a little bit, and I think I

1517
01:18:17.159 --> 01:18:19.279
<v Speaker 3>think it's the race this year. Like you said, I

1518
01:18:19.359 --> 01:18:22.720
<v Speaker 3>don't hate their team, but a lot of the good

1519
01:18:22.720 --> 01:18:27.399
<v Speaker 3>pitching's gone. Mclanahan's going to be hurt soon. There's a

1520
01:18:27.680 --> 01:18:31.239
<v Speaker 3>few decent infielders like Camonero is fun, but you know, I, yeah,

1521
01:18:31.319 --> 01:18:33.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't don't see it for them. But maybe I'm

1522
01:18:33.319 --> 01:18:35.079
<v Speaker 3>being mean. Maybe the AC will have more of an

1523
01:18:35.079 --> 01:18:36.479
<v Speaker 3>effect than I realized. That's good insight.

1524
01:18:38.079 --> 01:18:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Come to George stein Rederfield everybody.

1525
01:18:43.680 --> 01:18:45.399
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't. I didn't upload it in the end because

1526
01:18:45.439 --> 01:18:48.279
<v Speaker 2>because it was too much of a hack job. But

1527
01:18:48.479 --> 01:18:50.680
<v Speaker 2>I sat there and I tried to film some some

1528
01:18:50.800 --> 01:18:52.840
<v Speaker 2>of me sat there. It was, it was suffering. It

1529
01:18:53.000 --> 01:18:57.119
<v Speaker 2>was a horrible, horrible place to watch baseball. I genuinely

1530
01:18:57.159 --> 01:18:58.960
<v Speaker 2>would rather have not gone. I mean, it didn't help

1531
01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:01.439
<v Speaker 2>that we got absolutely honked twice by the by the

1532
01:19:01.880 --> 01:19:04.640
<v Speaker 2>the Royals whilst I sat there, But it was it

1533
01:19:04.760 --> 01:19:09.159
<v Speaker 2>was a vicious, awful place to watch baseball. Had Yankee

1534
01:19:09.159 --> 01:19:12.000
<v Speaker 2>stuff everywhere, so you know that really didn't help.

1535
01:19:14.039 --> 01:19:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Sounds terrible, so said, so what.

1536
01:19:19.359 --> 01:19:22.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we've got eighty eighty one and you're saying lower,

1537
01:19:23.439 --> 01:19:26.039
<v Speaker 2>So we're going to repeat on seventy seven?

1538
01:19:29.279 --> 01:19:30.279
<v Speaker 1>Will do you go seventy seven?

1539
01:19:30.359 --> 01:19:30.520
<v Speaker 3>Back?

1540
01:19:32.199 --> 01:19:34.359
<v Speaker 2>I think it's low. I think it's low. But okay,

1541
01:19:35.199 --> 01:19:36.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna play that damn game again.

1542
01:19:39.439 --> 01:19:41.600
<v Speaker 3>I could skip the time and that Darius Cheers, couldn't.

1543
01:19:41.319 --> 01:19:45.359
<v Speaker 1>We Yeah, I've put in seventy seven. That's fine.

1544
01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:51.239
<v Speaker 3>And right, Okay, we're gonna probably have an argument about this,

1545
01:19:51.279 --> 01:19:53.319
<v Speaker 3>but let's do the kinds of City Royals. I they're

1546
01:19:53.399 --> 01:19:55.760
<v Speaker 3>my team for this year. You don't want to hear

1547
01:19:55.800 --> 01:19:57.720
<v Speaker 3>that if you're if you're a Royals fan, because I'm

1548
01:19:57.840 --> 01:19:59.680
<v Speaker 3>terrible at picking teams. But I think the Royal is

1549
01:19:59.720 --> 01:20:02.560
<v Speaker 3>going to be good this year. I think they've got

1550
01:20:03.199 --> 01:20:05.399
<v Speaker 3>an MVP candidate in Wirre. They've got a bunch of

1551
01:20:05.479 --> 01:20:07.079
<v Speaker 3>other players in the lineup that I like a lot.

1552
01:20:07.520 --> 01:20:09.640
<v Speaker 3>You know, mikel Garsia was like the top five of

1553
01:20:09.680 --> 01:20:13.319
<v Speaker 3>their basement in baseball last year. Paspentino's fun. I think

1554
01:20:13.600 --> 01:20:16.119
<v Speaker 3>Caglione shows life this year, and then the pitching, if

1555
01:20:16.159 --> 01:20:18.760
<v Speaker 3>it can stay healthy, big if. I also think is

1556
01:20:18.800 --> 01:20:22.359
<v Speaker 3>really good and underrated and has depth. So call me crazy,

1557
01:20:22.520 --> 01:20:26.279
<v Speaker 3>but I think the Royals win that division. I think

1558
01:20:26.319 --> 01:20:27.079
<v Speaker 3>they win ninety.

1559
01:20:26.920 --> 01:20:31.319
<v Speaker 2>Games, ninety ninety good lord, Yeah.

1560
01:20:31.239 --> 01:20:34.119
<v Speaker 3>I said I like them, and they're gonna end up

1561
01:20:34.119 --> 01:20:34.680
<v Speaker 3>coming down from that.

1562
01:20:34.760 --> 01:20:38.119
<v Speaker 1>But I just went on, you want to plant the flag? Yeah,

1563
01:20:38.560 --> 01:20:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I think they'll make it close for the Tigers. I

1564
01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:44.239
<v Speaker 1>have the Tigers just ahead. But I was on eighty

1565
01:20:44.279 --> 01:20:46.119
<v Speaker 1>five eighty six for the Morris.

1566
01:20:47.520 --> 01:20:47.720
<v Speaker 3>I was.

1567
01:20:47.880 --> 01:20:49.640
<v Speaker 2>I was slightly lower. I was in eighty three just

1568
01:20:49.640 --> 01:20:52.600
<v Speaker 2>because of the scarring memory, which just I just explained

1569
01:20:52.640 --> 01:20:56.600
<v Speaker 2>from watching them in Camper. But I can come up

1570
01:20:56.640 --> 01:21:01.039
<v Speaker 2>to Darius's level. I can't see ninety. If they've sorted

1571
01:21:01.079 --> 01:21:05.159
<v Speaker 2>out their outfield to an extent, but it's still a

1572
01:21:05.279 --> 01:21:09.520
<v Speaker 2>little bit weak on the hitting side. I mean, the

1573
01:21:09.600 --> 01:21:12.319
<v Speaker 2>pitching's okay, but it's it's not right home about so

1574
01:21:13.880 --> 01:21:15.039
<v Speaker 2>ninety seems heavy for me?

1575
01:21:19.680 --> 01:21:24.159
<v Speaker 1>Are you are you accepting it in the middle? I

1576
01:21:25.000 --> 01:21:25.840
<v Speaker 1>do you want to do you want to have a

1577
01:21:25.920 --> 01:21:26.640
<v Speaker 1>tie for the division?

1578
01:21:26.680 --> 01:21:26.800
<v Speaker 3>Ben?

1579
01:21:26.960 --> 01:21:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Is that what you're saying?

1580
01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:29.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Can you put them in a tie with the Tigers?

1581
01:21:30.119 --> 01:21:33.479
<v Speaker 1>Fine? I have no strong feelings like I would not

1582
01:21:33.520 --> 01:21:34.840
<v Speaker 1>be shocked to feel them the Tigers or the or

1583
01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:37.319
<v Speaker 1>else on the central That would not surprise me.

1584
01:21:39.720 --> 01:21:41.760
<v Speaker 2>We'll get to finish the division, Darius, that's your pick.

1585
01:21:43.800 --> 01:21:46.319
<v Speaker 1>Let's finish a division. I'm trying to think who's gonna

1586
01:21:46.319 --> 01:21:48.199
<v Speaker 1>be most entertaining to leave them to the last. Who's

1587
01:21:48.199 --> 01:21:49.760
<v Speaker 1>the least entertaining to leave until last?

1588
01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:52.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, obviously Cleveland.

1589
01:21:52.760 --> 01:21:57.640
<v Speaker 1>It's obviously Cleveland. Let'st of Cleveland. Why why are they here?

1590
01:21:57.960 --> 01:22:00.520
<v Speaker 2>What is the point of Cleveland? Just to annoy us?

1591
01:22:02.439 --> 01:22:05.840
<v Speaker 1>That playoff experience watching that Cleveland lineup in the playoffs

1592
01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:08.720
<v Speaker 1>was just like this. This front office should not be

1593
01:22:08.760 --> 01:22:11.119
<v Speaker 1>allowed to continue getting away with this. I hope the

1594
01:22:11.199 --> 01:22:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Tigers and the Royals just eliminate them from this. And

1595
01:22:15.439 --> 01:22:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they'll hang around because it's it's Cleveland.

1596
01:22:18.239 --> 01:22:20.880
<v Speaker 1>But I'm just going to say eighty one because they're

1597
01:22:20.920 --> 01:22:24.159
<v Speaker 1>really dull and I don't think they're any good. Really,

1598
01:22:24.319 --> 01:22:27.520
<v Speaker 1>They'll just you know, Cleveland their way to a mid season.

1599
01:22:31.680 --> 01:22:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, agreed. I mean Chase the latter is Barry Bonds.

1600
01:22:36.039 --> 01:22:37.439
<v Speaker 3>So maybe we should advise.

1601
01:22:37.159 --> 01:22:38.880
<v Speaker 1>That they have they have a hitter.

1602
01:22:38.960 --> 01:22:42.680
<v Speaker 2>I'll give them that. That's a good, good improvement. I

1603
01:22:44.479 --> 01:22:49.079
<v Speaker 2>haven't forgotten. I reckon they're the anti Angels. I mean,

1604
01:22:49.319 --> 01:22:51.439
<v Speaker 2>like every year we say, oh, this year there's the Angels.

1605
01:22:51.439 --> 01:22:53.199
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna be good. We keep saying this is the

1606
01:22:53.279 --> 01:22:55.279
<v Speaker 2>year that they drop off. Then they're not good anymore.

1607
01:22:55.880 --> 01:22:58.000
<v Speaker 2>They keep doing it, I think they'll be fine. I

1608
01:22:58.079 --> 01:23:01.000
<v Speaker 2>think you know, they've lost two guys who are throwing

1609
01:23:01.039 --> 01:23:03.720
<v Speaker 2>balls the wrong direction on purpose, so you know that

1610
01:23:03.960 --> 01:23:07.359
<v Speaker 2>that's better. So you know, I think you know, they

1611
01:23:07.399 --> 01:23:09.439
<v Speaker 2>won eighty eight games last year, and I don't see

1612
01:23:09.439 --> 01:23:13.119
<v Speaker 2>that they particularly got any worse. And maybe the division's

1613
01:23:13.159 --> 01:23:15.640
<v Speaker 2>got a little bit better around them, but like the

1614
01:23:15.720 --> 01:23:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Twins have got worse, the Royals and the Tigers probably

1615
01:23:18.920 --> 01:23:20.319
<v Speaker 2>about where they were. Maybe the rules are a bit

1616
01:23:20.359 --> 01:23:22.159
<v Speaker 2>better and the White Socks are maybe a little bit better.

1617
01:23:22.239 --> 01:23:24.800
<v Speaker 2>So okay, I can drop a couple of couple of wins,

1618
01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:26.720
<v Speaker 2>but I just there's something about them and they just

1619
01:23:26.840 --> 01:23:29.359
<v Speaker 2>keep finding their way. So I was more like an

1620
01:23:29.399 --> 01:23:32.800
<v Speaker 2>eighty five win, Yeah, I mean that what was the

1621
01:23:32.880 --> 01:23:38.359
<v Speaker 2>pithag last year in eighty two. That's the kind of

1622
01:23:38.399 --> 01:23:39.800
<v Speaker 2>team the Guardians were last year.

1623
01:23:39.720 --> 01:23:45.840
<v Speaker 3>Not a rationalized the Guardians exactly to explain them. So

1624
01:23:45.960 --> 01:23:47.880
<v Speaker 3>your boy never heard of up being.

1625
01:23:48.039 --> 01:23:50.640
<v Speaker 1>And you agreeing with robbed now then eighty five, Well, no,

1626
01:23:50.720 --> 01:23:51.199
<v Speaker 1>I still.

1627
01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:53.720
<v Speaker 3>Think they're below five hundred, but maybe like maybe five

1628
01:23:53.840 --> 01:23:57.520
<v Speaker 3>hundred exactly, which is what I said, like pure mid

1629
01:23:57.720 --> 01:24:00.760
<v Speaker 3>we found it was that what you said find five

1630
01:24:00.840 --> 01:24:01.560
<v Speaker 3>years to get down.

1631
01:24:01.640 --> 01:24:06.000
<v Speaker 2>But mark my words, the the Guardians will be better

1632
01:24:06.079 --> 01:24:09.760
<v Speaker 2>come the end of the season. I'll die on this hill,

1633
01:24:10.119 --> 01:24:11.920
<v Speaker 2>this really boring hill.

1634
01:24:12.840 --> 01:24:15.079
<v Speaker 1>Just on principle, because they never do anything.

1635
01:24:15.279 --> 01:24:15.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

1636
01:24:16.279 --> 01:24:19.439
<v Speaker 2>It's more of a gentle slope. Yes, obviously they'll win

1637
01:24:19.520 --> 01:24:25.960
<v Speaker 2>the division, but I'm not giving them predy. Okay, rob Oh,

1638
01:24:27.159 --> 01:24:32.239
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about the Phillies. I think the Phillies are

1639
01:24:32.319 --> 01:24:34.199
<v Speaker 2>just getting old, and that really is all that the

1640
01:24:34.239 --> 01:24:36.800
<v Speaker 2>story is about the Phillies. The Phillies are still pretty good,

1641
01:24:38.319 --> 01:24:42.119
<v Speaker 2>but you know, the vibes have turned from well, aren't

1642
01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:43.720
<v Speaker 2>these guys crazy? You're having a lot of fun to

1643
01:24:44.159 --> 01:24:46.720
<v Speaker 2>aren't they a bit weird? What's going on with all

1644
01:24:46.760 --> 01:24:52.399
<v Speaker 2>that blood play? That's not okay? Yeah, it's all got

1645
01:24:52.439 --> 01:24:54.960
<v Speaker 2>a bit strange in Philly. I think a lot of people,

1646
01:24:55.079 --> 01:24:57.039
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of the projections you see have

1647
01:24:57.279 --> 01:24:59.880
<v Speaker 2>their being a bit harsh. If I'm honest, I think

1648
01:24:59.880 --> 01:25:02.079
<v Speaker 2>the they are going down. They're They're not the team

1649
01:25:02.199 --> 01:25:04.119
<v Speaker 2>they were over the last couple of years. I think

1650
01:25:04.119 --> 01:25:07.600
<v Speaker 2>they've kind of almost missed their peak. It is done,

1651
01:25:07.800 --> 01:25:10.520
<v Speaker 2>but I don't think they're dropping off that much. They've

1652
01:25:10.520 --> 01:25:13.840
<v Speaker 2>still got some good players in here, So where do

1653
01:25:13.920 --> 01:25:18.680
<v Speaker 2>I have them as I had the Phillies if we

1654
01:25:18.760 --> 01:25:21.800
<v Speaker 2>work out which division are in drop they were ninety

1655
01:25:21.800 --> 01:25:23.600
<v Speaker 2>six wins last year. I'd been down to ninety this year,

1656
01:25:26.560 --> 01:25:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Like that's a big drop off considering they haven't lost

1657
01:25:29.680 --> 01:25:33.399
<v Speaker 2>that much from this team. So yeah, ninety wins from

1658
01:25:33.479 --> 01:25:36.239
<v Speaker 2>what was a ninety six win team and I'm I'm

1659
01:25:36.800 --> 01:25:38.439
<v Speaker 2>that's me on the Phillies.

1660
01:25:38.840 --> 01:25:42.079
<v Speaker 1>Still good when you accept this slander against the Mets.

1661
01:25:45.039 --> 01:25:47.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I didn't have them winning the division, but then

1662
01:25:47.640 --> 01:25:49.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I realized that they won ninety six

1663
01:25:49.920 --> 01:25:51.640
<v Speaker 3>games last year. That it's a lot of games, isn't it.

1664
01:25:52.039 --> 01:25:53.520
<v Speaker 3>But then I don't know. I feel like it all

1665
01:25:53.600 --> 01:25:55.520
<v Speaker 3>kind of went right for them last year, like all

1666
01:25:55.560 --> 01:25:59.079
<v Speaker 3>the old guys stayed mostly healthy, the rotation had a

1667
01:25:59.199 --> 01:26:01.239
<v Speaker 3>career year from some chairs. Wayne of Suarez was there,

1668
01:26:01.239 --> 01:26:02.039
<v Speaker 3>he's not there anymore.

1669
01:26:02.640 --> 01:26:07.439
<v Speaker 1>And also at Lantern the Mets were completely useless and collapsed,

1670
01:26:07.600 --> 01:26:08.399
<v Speaker 1>which helps.

1671
01:26:09.119 --> 01:26:11.399
<v Speaker 3>It was fully healthy. We have no idea what he's

1672
01:26:11.399 --> 01:26:12.479
<v Speaker 3>going to be when he's back from injury.

1673
01:26:12.920 --> 01:26:14.640
<v Speaker 2>He's exactly going to be tearing it up this year?

1674
01:26:14.680 --> 01:26:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Are they with no pitching? You know that's still that's

1675
01:26:17.920 --> 01:26:18.560
<v Speaker 2>still a factor.

1676
01:26:20.800 --> 01:26:23.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know. I had him splitting the gap

1677
01:26:23.520 --> 01:26:25.880
<v Speaker 3>with eighty seven between the Mets and the Braves, that

1678
01:26:26.079 --> 01:26:28.319
<v Speaker 3>that might be too harsh and my Mets bias might

1679
01:26:28.319 --> 01:26:29.119
<v Speaker 3>be blinding me. There.

1680
01:26:31.319 --> 01:26:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, Robin players game again?

1681
01:26:32.840 --> 01:26:37.159
<v Speaker 3>So where did you have them, Doris? Yeah?

1682
01:26:37.399 --> 01:26:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I have them closest to where we have the Mets, certainly.

1683
01:26:41.640 --> 01:26:45.119
<v Speaker 1>I think it's tossed up between those two to the division,

1684
01:26:45.359 --> 01:26:47.159
<v Speaker 1>I think ninety not million miles away.

1685
01:26:48.520 --> 01:26:52.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's give him eighty nine. I think we can't

1686
01:26:52.800 --> 01:26:54.119
<v Speaker 3>predict the Mets to win the East again.

1687
01:26:54.239 --> 01:26:56.039
<v Speaker 1>Okay, there we go. We're giving them nine.

1688
01:26:56.439 --> 01:26:57.800
<v Speaker 3>Did we even do that last year? I don't know.

1689
01:26:57.840 --> 01:26:58.680
<v Speaker 3>I predict it every year.

1690
01:26:59.239 --> 01:27:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know if we last year, but it's

1691
01:27:01.199 --> 01:27:01.880
<v Speaker 2>entirely possible.

1692
01:27:04.680 --> 01:27:04.880
<v Speaker 3>Ben.

1693
01:27:05.600 --> 01:27:09.039
<v Speaker 2>That was me, so right, yeah, Ben, Yeah.

1694
01:27:09.199 --> 01:27:12.600
<v Speaker 3>Let's do I still want to take the Yeah, I

1695
01:27:12.600 --> 01:27:14.840
<v Speaker 3>don't take the pirate. So see, the Diamondbacks I had

1696
01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:17.880
<v Speaker 3>sort of a bit stuck in baseball purgatory, aren't They

1697
01:27:17.920 --> 01:27:19.800
<v Speaker 3>were like they're like good enough to always be like,

1698
01:27:19.920 --> 01:27:21.880
<v Speaker 3>oh this is be a bit different for the Diamondbacks

1699
01:27:21.920 --> 01:27:23.840
<v Speaker 3>this year, but not really good enough to like ever

1700
01:27:23.920 --> 01:27:26.199
<v Speaker 3>compete with the Dodgers, so sort of like, will they

1701
01:27:26.279 --> 01:27:28.039
<v Speaker 3>be good enough to compete for a wild card? I

1702
01:27:28.239 --> 01:27:31.199
<v Speaker 3>tend to think yes, I don't know if I'll actually

1703
01:27:31.279 --> 01:27:33.279
<v Speaker 3>get one, but I have them in that like eighty

1704
01:27:33.640 --> 01:27:36.079
<v Speaker 3>five ish win range about the same as the Padres.

1705
01:27:37.159 --> 01:27:40.239
<v Speaker 3>You know, the lineup has the potential to be good.

1706
01:27:40.399 --> 01:27:43.000
<v Speaker 3>I think it kind of always seems to be good

1707
01:27:43.159 --> 01:27:44.760
<v Speaker 3>no matter who's in it. But they just seem to

1708
01:27:44.800 --> 01:27:46.760
<v Speaker 3>be good at producing runs. They're not always so great

1709
01:27:46.960 --> 01:27:51.079
<v Speaker 3>at getting out. But yeah, this feels like a year

1710
01:27:51.159 --> 01:27:53.800
<v Speaker 3>that they kind of do what they've done tick along

1711
01:27:53.840 --> 01:27:56.800
<v Speaker 3>with Yeah, eighty five eighty six wins, compete, but not

1712
01:27:56.920 --> 01:27:59.520
<v Speaker 3>really good enough to be, you know, a proper contender

1713
01:27:59.680 --> 01:28:02.279
<v Speaker 3>or with the Dodgers. Doesn't fill me with optimism. That

1714
01:28:02.720 --> 01:28:05.800
<v Speaker 3>no Arnado is getting at that's there. I love Nolan,

1715
01:28:05.880 --> 01:28:09.600
<v Speaker 3>but another guy who, yeah, should not be getting at

1716
01:28:09.680 --> 01:28:11.800
<v Speaker 3>that's for a serious team. Yeah.

1717
01:28:11.840 --> 01:28:14.439
<v Speaker 1>They got some some real obvious holes here, haven't they.

1718
01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:17.840
<v Speaker 1>First base is a problem, third base is a problem,

1719
01:28:19.079 --> 01:28:24.239
<v Speaker 1>The rotation is a problem. I think they're worse than

1720
01:28:24.279 --> 01:28:30.840
<v Speaker 1>the part Rads in the Giants area in the low eighties.

1721
01:28:32.199 --> 01:28:34.439
<v Speaker 2>I would say split the difference from me, So let's

1722
01:28:34.720 --> 01:28:36.680
<v Speaker 2>can we can we eighty three them?

1723
01:28:38.359 --> 01:28:38.479
<v Speaker 3>Can?

1724
01:28:38.560 --> 01:28:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I you shreedom.

1725
01:28:41.079 --> 01:28:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Definitely going to have something, So maybe maybe that's where

1726
01:28:43.800 --> 01:28:46.279
<v Speaker 2>it will go. As saying, we've been very we've been

1727
01:28:46.399 --> 01:28:50.920
<v Speaker 2>very conservative so far. Unless somebody loves the Pirates, I'm

1728
01:28:50.960 --> 01:28:53.760
<v Speaker 2>going to take the Pirates. Don't take the don't let

1729
01:28:53.840 --> 01:28:57.159
<v Speaker 2>don't let the l Yankees have the go last. No, please,

1730
01:28:59.680 --> 01:29:02.880
<v Speaker 2>we haven't on the asterisk? Good fine, lovely, Well that's fine.

1731
01:29:02.920 --> 01:29:07.680
<v Speaker 1>We can leave them, so maybe we won't have any left.

1732
01:29:07.760 --> 01:29:12.239
<v Speaker 1>We'll see how OOPSI sick we are the Pirates, Like,

1733
01:29:12.439 --> 01:29:15.159
<v Speaker 1>I just don't trust them to do anything right, even

1734
01:29:15.199 --> 01:29:16.920
<v Speaker 1>if they're good. But they're just not going to spend

1735
01:29:16.920 --> 01:29:19.079
<v Speaker 1>any money, are they Like they're like, oh, we really

1736
01:29:19.159 --> 01:29:21.159
<v Speaker 1>tried this offseason and what they do They signed like

1737
01:29:21.319 --> 01:29:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Ryan O'Hearn, who's it's fine, Like it's a fine player,

1738
01:29:26.399 --> 01:29:31.319
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I don't surely yeah, but I mean, yeah,

1739
01:29:31.479 --> 01:29:36.319
<v Speaker 1>they have arguably the best starting pitcher in baseball. Well

1740
01:29:36.359 --> 01:29:39.279
<v Speaker 1>they can all his first start that was a bit.

1741
01:29:39.239 --> 01:29:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Of the fleeing. He didn't finish.

1742
01:29:40.920 --> 01:29:44.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the young, the young starting pitching is really exciting,

1743
01:29:45.279 --> 01:29:48.119
<v Speaker 1>and presumably we will see Connor Griffin at some point,

1744
01:29:48.239 --> 01:29:51.239
<v Speaker 1>hopefully a point that's like not too far in the future,

1745
01:29:51.960 --> 01:29:54.399
<v Speaker 1>but is the Pirates. So I don't want to like

1746
01:29:54.479 --> 01:29:57.119
<v Speaker 1>make any guarantees. But the rest of the lineup is

1747
01:29:57.319 --> 01:30:03.680
<v Speaker 1>is pretty bad. The Low deal was good. Sorry lao low,

1748
01:30:04.319 --> 01:30:05.079
<v Speaker 1>Yes is loud.

1749
01:30:05.520 --> 01:30:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's low. That's the Lao, not the Low. But

1750
01:30:08.880 --> 01:30:12.920
<v Speaker 2>I think they're still like a you know, seventy six

1751
01:30:13.000 --> 01:30:15.119
<v Speaker 2>twenty I had seventy seven.

1752
01:30:17.880 --> 01:30:19.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's fine by me.

1753
01:30:19.279 --> 01:30:20.560
<v Speaker 2>I think people are a little bit too high on

1754
01:30:20.600 --> 01:30:20.880
<v Speaker 2>the mills.

1755
01:30:22.880 --> 01:30:25.439
<v Speaker 3>I really do like their pitching, but yeah, the lineup,

1756
01:30:26.000 --> 01:30:27.960
<v Speaker 3>it's just there's not a ton to be excited about.

1757
01:30:29.000 --> 01:30:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Unless Griffin turns out to be amazing, which he might.

1758
01:30:31.960 --> 01:30:33.800
<v Speaker 1>I think he will be very good at some point.

1759
01:30:33.920 --> 01:30:37.479
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, do they try Do they try and surround

1760
01:30:37.560 --> 01:30:40.960
<v Speaker 1>him with any talent at all? If it comes to

1761
01:30:41.000 --> 01:30:43.560
<v Speaker 1>the deadline and they're like moderately unit is well, nothing

1762
01:30:43.640 --> 01:30:47.319
<v Speaker 1>going to say, let's spend some money. No, no historical

1763
01:30:47.359 --> 01:30:48.479
<v Speaker 1>reason to believe that is there.

1764
01:30:50.960 --> 01:30:52.560
<v Speaker 3>I have to spend money. They've got Ryan and her mate.

1765
01:30:52.600 --> 01:30:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah there we all right, right, mean, isn't it? Yes, Well,

1766
01:30:58.279 --> 01:31:02.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to take the New York Yankees, and they're

1767
01:31:03.279 --> 01:31:06.600
<v Speaker 2>pretty good. I don't think we can say that the

1768
01:31:06.680 --> 01:31:11.279
<v Speaker 2>Yankees are going to be awful. It's a bit of

1769
01:31:11.399 --> 01:31:17.119
<v Speaker 2>a reliant on the likes of gian Carlo Stanton staying healthy,

1770
01:31:17.199 --> 01:31:19.199
<v Speaker 2>which is a fool's errand of course, But I mean,

1771
01:31:19.840 --> 01:31:21.840
<v Speaker 2>they were good last year, they'll they'll be good this year.

1772
01:31:22.680 --> 01:31:24.359
<v Speaker 2>I think they had a bit of bad luck last year.

1773
01:31:24.359 --> 01:31:26.239
<v Speaker 2>They haven't done particularly much. I think just for a

1774
01:31:26.279 --> 01:31:28.399
<v Speaker 2>bit of reversion to the mean, I reckon we'll see

1775
01:31:28.520 --> 01:31:31.119
<v Speaker 2>a ninety two win team. They'll be right up there

1776
01:31:31.159 --> 01:31:38.159
<v Speaker 2>with the Red Sox to revitalize the old old classic rivalry. Yeah,

1777
01:31:38.279 --> 01:31:39.960
<v Speaker 2>I had them right in the same range as the

1778
01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Red Sox. I think it will be pretty close between them.

1779
01:31:42.680 --> 01:31:44.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm happy to go with ninety two.

1780
01:31:47.199 --> 01:31:50.479
<v Speaker 3>Ben Yeah, I think that makes sense. I probably have

1781
01:31:50.560 --> 01:31:52.720
<v Speaker 3>the rest sort of take ahead, so maybe more than

1782
01:31:52.720 --> 01:31:54.399
<v Speaker 3>the nineteen ninety one range. But like that's yeah, I'm

1783
01:31:54.399 --> 01:31:57.199
<v Speaker 3>not going to squable over one or two wins. They're

1784
01:31:57.239 --> 01:32:00.239
<v Speaker 3>just a really good, deep team that it's hard to

1785
01:32:00.279 --> 01:32:02.079
<v Speaker 3>see how it all goes wrong for them like it

1786
01:32:02.119 --> 01:32:04.159
<v Speaker 3>has in the past. I hope I'm cursing them by

1787
01:32:04.199 --> 01:32:06.279
<v Speaker 3>saying that, But a lot of yeah, just a lot

1788
01:32:06.319 --> 01:32:09.960
<v Speaker 3>of really good hitters throughout the lineup, depth and the pitching.

1789
01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:12.399
<v Speaker 3>At some point, hopefully Gerret holes back, Like I yeah.

1790
01:32:12.239 --> 01:32:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I think Carlos John to come back again.

1791
01:32:14.319 --> 01:32:16.520
<v Speaker 2>It looks great. Want to come back really great.

1792
01:32:16.560 --> 01:32:20.560
<v Speaker 3>It looks unbelievable. Yeah, Freed has been a revelation, well

1793
01:32:20.600 --> 01:32:23.039
<v Speaker 3>not revelations. He's been good, but like he's done everything

1794
01:32:23.039 --> 01:32:25.800
<v Speaker 3>they could expect. So yeah, I think that's.

1795
01:32:25.680 --> 01:32:28.359
<v Speaker 2>Fair good tea. Yeah, all right.

1796
01:32:29.199 --> 01:32:31.079
<v Speaker 1>The question Ben is do you want to give ninety

1797
01:32:31.119 --> 01:32:32.840
<v Speaker 1>wins to the Houston Astress.

1798
01:32:34.680 --> 01:32:36.880
<v Speaker 3>It's yeah, I don't.

1799
01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:38.000
<v Speaker 2>You don't know.

1800
01:32:38.760 --> 01:32:41.279
<v Speaker 3>I think I'd probably higher on them than you guys are,

1801
01:32:41.560 --> 01:32:43.199
<v Speaker 3>or maybe the Consentus, because I just it's one of

1802
01:32:43.199 --> 01:32:45.000
<v Speaker 3>those teams where it's like it feels icky to be

1803
01:32:45.119 --> 01:32:46.840
<v Speaker 3>like the Astros are bad now because they've been so

1804
01:32:46.960 --> 01:32:49.319
<v Speaker 3>good for so long. But the like writing was on

1805
01:32:49.359 --> 01:32:50.840
<v Speaker 3>the wall a bit last year you could see the

1806
01:32:50.880 --> 01:32:55.239
<v Speaker 3>cracks appearing. There is an aging lineup and you know,

1807
01:32:55.439 --> 01:32:57.800
<v Speaker 3>their best hitter your now Rez can't stay on the field,

1808
01:32:58.039 --> 01:33:00.199
<v Speaker 3>and the pitching has got cracked to the back of

1809
01:33:00.239 --> 01:33:02.760
<v Speaker 3>the rotation, maybe even at the front of the rotation too.

1810
01:33:03.520 --> 01:33:05.399
<v Speaker 3>So I haven't done for eighty five, which I mean,

1811
01:33:05.439 --> 01:33:09.640
<v Speaker 3>it's not a bad year by most teams measure, but

1812
01:33:09.800 --> 01:33:11.279
<v Speaker 3>I think for them it'd be a slight sit back,

1813
01:33:11.279 --> 01:33:13.000
<v Speaker 3>and I imagine that might even be on the high

1814
01:33:13.039 --> 01:33:14.319
<v Speaker 3>side for what you guys have got them down for.

1815
01:33:15.119 --> 01:33:18.159
<v Speaker 2>I had eighty four, So I'm exactly in the same

1816
01:33:18.279 --> 01:33:20.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of way, same place as you. You know that

1817
01:33:20.680 --> 01:33:23.680
<v Speaker 2>they are getting it older again. You know, they've they

1818
01:33:23.720 --> 01:33:28.199
<v Speaker 2>have slid slowly, but not not disgustingly disgracefully from from

1819
01:33:28.279 --> 01:33:33.039
<v Speaker 2>the dominance, and you know, with the you know, angels

1820
01:33:33.159 --> 01:33:37.319
<v Speaker 2>A's Rangers division, there's still plenty of wins to play

1821
01:33:37.359 --> 01:33:41.279
<v Speaker 2>for for them, so they're still going to be towards

1822
01:33:41.439 --> 01:33:43.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, they'll they'll be talking about the wild card

1823
01:33:43.800 --> 01:33:46.840
<v Speaker 2>come come September if they don't even quite get there. So, yeah,

1824
01:33:46.840 --> 01:33:47.680
<v Speaker 2>I had them on eighty four.

1825
01:33:50.960 --> 01:33:54.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm okay with eighty four. It's not the Astros evolved.

1826
01:33:54.359 --> 01:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I think they've got a lot of cracks, but they've

1827
01:33:56.640 --> 01:34:01.439
<v Speaker 1>still got some very good players as well. And I

1828
01:34:01.560 --> 01:34:05.560
<v Speaker 1>don't think you know, this division is crazy good. I

1829
01:34:05.640 --> 01:34:07.600
<v Speaker 1>think that's going to be some free wins to be had,

1830
01:34:07.920 --> 01:34:14.800
<v Speaker 1>So I'm okay with eighty four. Four, Okay, six wins.

1831
01:34:15.039 --> 01:34:17.560
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty good, pretty well one of our better efforts,

1832
01:34:17.600 --> 01:34:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I think.

1833
01:34:20.199 --> 01:34:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I mean so me. It's immediately two on the rays.

1834
01:34:24.680 --> 01:34:25.199
<v Speaker 2>Do you want two?

1835
01:34:25.479 --> 01:34:26.399
<v Speaker 1>Two on the Rays?

1836
01:34:27.439 --> 01:34:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but they're better than seventy seven. We're saying that

1837
01:34:29.920 --> 01:34:33.079
<v Speaker 2>the Rains are only one game better than the Pirates.

1838
01:34:33.920 --> 01:34:37.039
<v Speaker 1>Come on, fine, two on the Rais.

1839
01:34:37.600 --> 01:34:38.720
<v Speaker 3>I'll trust Rob on this one.

1840
01:34:38.840 --> 01:34:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's the eight factor.

1841
01:34:42.399 --> 01:34:45.600
<v Speaker 1>You've appealed to my anti Bob nothing sentiments and one.

1842
01:34:45.880 --> 01:34:50.960
<v Speaker 2>So I think possibly that NL Central, top of the

1843
01:34:51.039 --> 01:34:53.439
<v Speaker 2>NL Central may be a little bit light. We've got

1844
01:34:53.520 --> 01:34:58.279
<v Speaker 2>the you want more nineteen Brewers on eighty four? A

1845
01:34:58.439 --> 01:35:00.239
<v Speaker 2>win or two and one one each other? Think it's

1846
01:35:00.239 --> 01:35:00.920
<v Speaker 2>probably about right?

1847
01:35:01.880 --> 01:35:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well good, I'm happy with one on each of them.

1848
01:35:03.720 --> 01:35:05.880
<v Speaker 3>I think the Brewers will be better than that. Yeah.

1849
01:35:08.359 --> 01:35:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Do you want to put another one on the Brewers?

1850
01:35:09.680 --> 01:35:13.720
<v Speaker 3>Ben? I probably would.

1851
01:35:13.840 --> 01:35:14.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1852
01:35:14.319 --> 01:35:16.800
<v Speaker 3>I think I think a wild card team right? Six?

1853
01:35:16.880 --> 01:35:18.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I can see eighty six for the Brewers that

1854
01:35:18.479 --> 01:35:21.680
<v Speaker 2>that's not not crazy. If we have one.

1855
01:35:24.640 --> 01:35:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Do we want to break a tie?

1856
01:35:26.479 --> 01:35:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll flip flip a coin between the Tigers and

1857
01:35:28.760 --> 01:35:32.800
<v Speaker 2>the and the Royals. We'll play one more tie breaker

1858
01:35:32.920 --> 01:35:33.439
<v Speaker 2>play one more?

1859
01:35:33.880 --> 01:35:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Shall I? Shall I run the tiebreaker and you two

1860
01:35:35.920 --> 01:35:37.439
<v Speaker 1>have to guess and then Robert have to look up

1861
01:35:37.479 --> 01:35:37.800
<v Speaker 1>and down.

1862
01:35:40.000 --> 01:35:41.760
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, fine, it's a tiebreaker.

1863
01:35:41.840 --> 01:35:43.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, any time my wins.

1864
01:35:44.680 --> 01:35:46.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, that's that's a good point. What if we

1865
01:35:46.199 --> 01:35:50.399
<v Speaker 2>tyebreak we both have the same answer. I'm tie breaking

1866
01:35:50.520 --> 01:35:54.319
<v Speaker 2>for the for the tie, I reckon the Tigers are better, and.

1867
01:35:54.399 --> 01:35:55.680
<v Speaker 1>We know Ben thinks the Royals are better.

1868
01:35:55.720 --> 01:35:59.039
<v Speaker 3>For the Royals, this is it the fate of the

1869
01:35:59.079 --> 01:36:00.039
<v Speaker 3>al centrals in our.

1870
01:36:00.880 --> 01:36:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're Central's in your hands. Okay, I've got a player.

1871
01:36:07.000 --> 01:36:11.239
<v Speaker 1>It's a hitter. Does I don't know who wants to

1872
01:36:11.319 --> 01:36:13.319
<v Speaker 1>pick a stat? Somebody pick a stat.

1873
01:36:14.079 --> 01:36:17.439
<v Speaker 2>Home runs, keep it nice and easy, home runs.

1874
01:36:17.720 --> 01:36:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I want to know how many home runs did Michael

1875
01:36:20.880 --> 01:36:22.439
<v Speaker 1>Garcia hit in twenty twenty five.

1876
01:36:23.720 --> 01:36:24.479
<v Speaker 2>He was quite good.

1877
01:36:27.880 --> 01:36:29.920
<v Speaker 3>He was really good. I don't think he had crazy

1878
01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:33.119
<v Speaker 3>power though. Okay, I'll go in the twenties.

1879
01:36:33.239 --> 01:36:34.960
<v Speaker 2>I was going to say that that sucks, like I'm

1880
01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:37.279
<v Speaker 2>just copying you, okay, which we write down on numbers

1881
01:36:37.279 --> 01:36:38.319
<v Speaker 2>so that we can't be accused of.

1882
01:36:39.520 --> 01:36:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Write down a number so nobody can over run there.

1883
01:36:42.479 --> 01:36:45.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, papers, So I'm gonna have to note ap it

1884
01:36:45.680 --> 01:36:46.920
<v Speaker 3>like I'm apologize to it.

1885
01:36:52.039 --> 01:36:55.359
<v Speaker 1>This is great podcast content. Yep, just phenomenal.

1886
01:36:56.760 --> 01:36:58.119
<v Speaker 3>Can I make this text any big?

1887
01:36:58.319 --> 01:37:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Please please play along at home every as well. Write

1888
01:37:00.920 --> 01:37:07.039
<v Speaker 2>down your answer. I won't see them, but just vindicate.

1889
01:37:07.359 --> 01:37:11.279
<v Speaker 2>You'll be vindicated when you get it right. We pick

1890
01:37:11.319 --> 01:37:12.560
<v Speaker 2>a tiger and then we have to go with that

1891
01:37:12.600 --> 01:37:15.600
<v Speaker 2>guy instead of the same the same category. Right, yes,

1892
01:37:17.000 --> 01:37:20.720
<v Speaker 2>many go four yep, twenty four.

1893
01:37:25.479 --> 01:37:26.039
<v Speaker 1>Incredible.

1894
01:37:26.920 --> 01:37:30.159
<v Speaker 2>Pickause a random tiger, Darius, So you guys.

1895
01:37:29.920 --> 01:37:33.359
<v Speaker 1>Are too optimistic and Michael I said, I hit sixteen

1896
01:37:33.399 --> 01:37:35.720
<v Speaker 1>home runs. He was very good, but not because he

1897
01:37:35.800 --> 01:37:37.279
<v Speaker 1>hit not because he hit a lot of home runs.

1898
01:37:38.399 --> 01:37:41.439
<v Speaker 1>A random tiger also home runs for tigers.

1899
01:37:41.840 --> 01:37:44.159
<v Speaker 2>Yep. If there's a picture, we're going to draw again

1900
01:37:44.159 --> 01:37:46.680
<v Speaker 2>because it will be zero, will be zero.

1901
01:37:46.800 --> 01:37:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Well done, that's good. I want to know how many

1902
01:37:51.399 --> 01:37:59.199
<v Speaker 1>home runs did the actually named Dylan Dingler hit Dingers

1903
01:37:59.359 --> 01:38:00.279
<v Speaker 1>from Dinger.

1904
01:38:01.680 --> 01:38:01.720
<v Speaker 3>No.

1905
01:38:02.840 --> 01:38:04.399
<v Speaker 2>I feel like there was hype about him, but he

1906
01:38:04.399 --> 01:38:05.359
<v Speaker 2>didn't quite him up to it.

1907
01:38:10.119 --> 01:38:11.199
<v Speaker 3>Could maybe it look stupid.

1908
01:38:13.119 --> 01:38:15.880
<v Speaker 1>That was the point of this game. I can't believe,

1909
01:38:15.960 --> 01:38:18.600
<v Speaker 1>can't believe the al Central is riding on. Who knows

1910
01:38:18.640 --> 01:38:20.239
<v Speaker 1>how many home runs did and Dingleer here.

1911
01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:25.439
<v Speaker 3>You ready, Okay, I've got my answer. Yeah.

1912
01:38:26.439 --> 01:38:31.680
<v Speaker 2>See the answers seven from Ben twelve from The correct

1913
01:38:31.720 --> 01:38:39.560
<v Speaker 2>answer is thirteen congract No, congratulations, destroy Tigers. That's the

1914
01:38:39.600 --> 01:38:41.319
<v Speaker 2>first time in four years I've won one of these.

1915
01:38:42.319 --> 01:38:45.079
<v Speaker 2>That the winners of the AL Central in twenty twenty six.

1916
01:38:46.439 --> 01:38:49.279
<v Speaker 2>Sorry Royals, better like next year.

1917
01:38:49.359 --> 01:38:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I hope you send a handwritten an apology card to

1918
01:38:51.560 --> 01:38:54.039
<v Speaker 1>Bobby Witt Junior Ben for this travesty.

1919
01:38:55.560 --> 01:38:56.319
<v Speaker 3>Damn you Dingler.

1920
01:38:58.319 --> 01:39:01.439
<v Speaker 1>So there we have it. We're done, We've finished. I

1921
01:39:01.520 --> 01:39:03.680
<v Speaker 1>can I can read the titles out because people who

1922
01:39:03.720 --> 01:39:05.560
<v Speaker 1>are listening to this as a podcast will not actually

1923
01:39:05.640 --> 01:39:08.399
<v Speaker 1>be able to see any of this. So in the

1924
01:39:08.560 --> 01:39:11.720
<v Speaker 1>NL West we have, in a shock decision, the Dodgers

1925
01:39:11.760 --> 01:39:15.119
<v Speaker 1>winning ninety eight games, Padres eighty five, i'ming back to

1926
01:39:15.159 --> 01:39:19.000
<v Speaker 1>eighty three, Giants eighty one, Rockies fifty one, and our

1927
01:39:19.119 --> 01:39:22.479
<v Speaker 1>Central Cubs ninety one, Brewers eighty six, Reds eighty three,

1928
01:39:22.640 --> 01:39:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Pirates seventy six, Cardinals seventy and the NL East Phillies

1929
01:39:27.039 --> 01:39:30.520
<v Speaker 1>eighty nine, Mets eighty eight, Braves eighty five, Marlin's seventy

1930
01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:35.880
<v Speaker 1>three Nationals sixty five L West Jerry Depoto's Seattle Mariners

1931
01:39:36.119 --> 01:39:40.039
<v Speaker 1>eighty eight wins, the Astros eighty four, Rangers eighty two,

1932
01:39:41.000 --> 01:39:44.720
<v Speaker 1>six seventy eight, and Angels sixty four. The Ale Central

1933
01:39:44.760 --> 01:39:47.039
<v Speaker 1>as you just heard, the Tigers are winning the division

1934
01:39:47.199 --> 01:39:52.000
<v Speaker 1>with eighty eight, Royals eighty seven, Guardians eighty one, twins

1935
01:39:52.079 --> 01:39:55.279
<v Speaker 1>seventy and White Sox sixty six. And finally in the

1936
01:39:55.319 --> 01:39:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Al list, we have a tie again. Will the Yankees

1937
01:39:57.960 --> 01:40:00.479
<v Speaker 1>lose out? We didn't actually decide the tiebreaker, but both

1938
01:40:00.520 --> 01:40:02.560
<v Speaker 1>the Red Sox and the Yankees on ninety two wins,

1939
01:40:02.840 --> 01:40:05.239
<v Speaker 1>the Blue Jays at eighty nine, the Areas at eighty six,

1940
01:40:05.399 --> 01:40:07.039
<v Speaker 1>and the Rays at seventy nine.

1941
01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:10.800
<v Speaker 2>There we have it. Those are the totals.

1942
01:40:11.840 --> 01:40:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Bob, you did say that you have some bold predictions

1943
01:40:14.600 --> 01:40:17.880
<v Speaker 1>that you wanted to get offs concluded.

1944
01:40:17.960 --> 01:40:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, what so I've got I've got four Someone's going

1945
01:40:22.319 --> 01:40:25.920
<v Speaker 2>to accidentally trigger a challenge, so you know, they're just

1946
01:40:26.920 --> 01:40:29.359
<v Speaker 2>someone's challenge that and it's going to be a ball

1947
01:40:29.439 --> 01:40:34.199
<v Speaker 2>by a mile or whatever. Yeah, so accidental challenge, a fire,

1948
01:40:34.319 --> 01:40:37.520
<v Speaker 2>will delay, cancel on, be notably visible in the game.

1949
01:40:38.520 --> 01:40:40.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, you know that's got White Sox written all

1950
01:40:40.800 --> 01:40:47.039
<v Speaker 2>over it. The Rockies All Star didn't start the season

1951
01:40:47.119 --> 01:40:51.359
<v Speaker 2>on the roster, I reckon and last year I've written

1952
01:40:51.399 --> 01:40:57.600
<v Speaker 2>down here mascot sex scandal? Is that what you will?

1953
01:40:58.840 --> 01:40:59.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1954
01:40:59.079 --> 01:41:01.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to delve into that one anymore. And

1955
01:41:01.960 --> 01:41:04.399
<v Speaker 1>who will the Rockies All Star be that? Who is

1956
01:41:04.439 --> 01:41:05.279
<v Speaker 1>not on the roster.

1957
01:41:05.319 --> 01:41:07.760
<v Speaker 3>At the moment, not currently on the roster at that

1958
01:41:08.079 --> 01:41:08.319
<v Speaker 3>on the.

1959
01:41:08.359 --> 01:41:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Active twenty six man as well? I mean who the

1960
01:41:10.680 --> 01:41:12.000
<v Speaker 2>twins going to DFA.

1961
01:41:14.720 --> 01:41:17.239
<v Speaker 3>Did? Did Mickey Moniac? He's not the I l because

1962
01:41:17.279 --> 01:41:19.199
<v Speaker 3>if he did, then he's probably the one, isn't he

1963
01:41:22.680 --> 01:41:25.239
<v Speaker 3>I think he did? Yeah, so Mickey Maniac, he might

1964
01:41:25.279 --> 01:41:25.880
<v Speaker 3>be right on that one.

1965
01:41:27.479 --> 01:41:28.159
<v Speaker 2>That'd be interesting.

1966
01:41:28.399 --> 01:41:31.439
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to say, yes, sex Scandal has got mister

1967
01:41:31.520 --> 01:41:32.520
<v Speaker 3>met written all over it.

1968
01:41:33.039 --> 01:41:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he does look like an offender.

1969
01:41:37.319 --> 01:41:38.399
<v Speaker 3>Well exactly.

1970
01:41:42.399 --> 01:41:46.279
<v Speaker 1>You heard it here first. Yeah, I could buy the

1971
01:41:46.359 --> 01:41:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Rockies one. Mickey Mania might be their all Star? Who else?

1972
01:41:49.840 --> 01:41:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Is it good Ran? I suppose isn't it the GA?

1973
01:41:55.760 --> 01:41:57.039
<v Speaker 1>It was it was good Man last year?

1974
01:41:57.119 --> 01:41:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Right? Was it last year?

1975
01:41:58.640 --> 01:41:59.159
<v Speaker 3>It was good Man?

1976
01:41:59.199 --> 01:41:59.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1977
01:41:59.680 --> 01:42:03.079
<v Speaker 3>Good Many Actually kinds of easy position to get in,

1978
01:42:03.199 --> 01:42:06.239
<v Speaker 3>isn't it good player? If you hits and he does?

1979
01:42:06.800 --> 01:42:07.439
<v Speaker 2>So there we have it.

1980
01:42:07.520 --> 01:42:10.680
<v Speaker 1>The predictions are in the book. We only slightly cheated

1981
01:42:10.760 --> 01:42:13.079
<v Speaker 1>this year, and I don't think it actually influenced many

1982
01:42:13.119 --> 01:42:19.880
<v Speaker 1>of our expectations at all, So we'll be fine. We've

1983
01:42:19.920 --> 01:42:21.720
<v Speaker 1>not cheated. We've not given the Angels loads to wins

1984
01:42:21.720 --> 01:42:28.159
<v Speaker 1>because Mike Trout's healthy, even though Ben wanted to, and.

1985
01:42:28.279 --> 01:42:29.840
<v Speaker 3>We gave ourselves a bit of a head start by

1986
01:42:29.880 --> 01:42:31.600
<v Speaker 3>watching the first three games of season and then doing this.

1987
01:42:32.560 --> 01:42:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't think it changed my

1988
01:42:34.760 --> 01:42:36.720
<v Speaker 2>opinion about anybody at all. But then I don't like

1989
01:42:36.760 --> 01:42:41.760
<v Speaker 2>to be rubbish, But now that that did change my mind, Ben,

1990
01:42:42.039 --> 01:42:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Ben did give the Rockies an extra win because they

1991
01:42:45.399 --> 01:42:50.239
<v Speaker 2>they won a lot. You know, that's that's a lot

1992
01:42:51.520 --> 01:42:54.359
<v Speaker 2>when they get fifty wins. I'm going to remember this.

1993
01:42:54.399 --> 01:42:56.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna blame you, Ben for us not getting that

1994
01:42:56.439 --> 01:42:57.039
<v Speaker 2>total correct.

1995
01:42:58.720 --> 01:42:59.960
<v Speaker 3>That seems that I've been carried away.

1996
01:43:00.079 --> 01:43:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay.

1997
01:43:01.319 --> 01:43:03.960
<v Speaker 1>That is the end of the prediction extravaganza. Thank you

1998
01:43:04.039 --> 01:43:06.800
<v Speaker 1>everybody for listening. We will often be back soon with

1999
01:43:07.239 --> 01:43:10.279
<v Speaker 1>content about the actual baseball season that's happening right now.

2000
01:43:10.760 --> 01:43:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Lots to talk about abs. We'll be watching out for

2001
01:43:13.439 --> 01:43:16.880
<v Speaker 1>those accidental challenges and much more. Until then, we will

2002
01:43:16.920 --> 01:43:17.600
<v Speaker 1>catch you next time.