Speaker 1: WWE was live in Saint Louis tonight for what they
Speaker 1: said could quite possibly be the final match ever between
Speaker 1: John Cena and Randy Orton. Thirty one World Championships between
Speaker 1: these two men. They had their very first match in
Speaker 1: two thousand and one before they were even in WWEE
Speaker 1: this has been a long as WWE would say, a
Speaker 1: storied rivalry between these two. They want you so badly
Speaker 1: to believe this has been just an all time classic feud.
Speaker 1: Whatever you think of these two, wherever you think this
Speaker 1: feud falls in the history books of great feuds in
Speaker 1: WWE history. It was never one of my favorites. But
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to expect tonight because it was
Speaker 1: really all about the crowd in Saint Louis. They were
Speaker 1: in Randy Orton's hometown. You cannot pick a better place
Speaker 1: to have heal John Cena defend his championship against Randy Orton.
Speaker 1: I said coming into the show, it was all going
Speaker 1: to come down to this crowd. This crowd. Are they
Speaker 1: going to will this match into an all time classic?
Speaker 1: Is that enough to carry this match? Because what we
Speaker 1: have seen from John Cena over the last several years
Speaker 1: and in particular even this year since he won the
Speaker 1: championship and came back to WWE is a john Sena
Speaker 1: that is very different in ring from the one that
Speaker 1: we saw many years ago in those earlier matches with
Speaker 1: Randy Orton. This is a john Sena that has a
Speaker 1: ceiling to what he can do. That much is clear,
Speaker 1: So a lot of the heavy lifting would have to
Speaker 1: be done by Randy Orton in this match. And they
Speaker 1: went out there tonight and they had a main event
Speaker 1: that I will say, and I already saw some of
Speaker 1: the comments earlier in the chat, and I agree that
Speaker 1: the main event tonight was better than the main event
Speaker 1: that we got on Night two of WrestleMania, and that
Speaker 1: should never happen, by the way, but that is indeed
Speaker 1: what we got tonight. We got, And I know it's
Speaker 1: a low bar to set, Okay, we talked about how
Speaker 1: awful that main event was one night two at WrestleMania,
Speaker 1: so it's a low bar, but easily eclipsed the John
Speaker 1: Cena Cody Rhodes match oft WrestleMania. So that's number one.
Speaker 1: But these two went out there and they delivered a
Speaker 1: match that was very early TNA horrific. So much so,
Speaker 1: especially with the overbooking on the ref bumps that I
Speaker 1: am sure Jeff Jarrett if he wasn't watching this match
Speaker 1: live tonight, when he does go back and watches this match,
Speaker 1: he will be standing up out of his chair and
Speaker 1: applauding both men. My god, I lost track of having
Speaker 1: between ref bumps RKO's attitude adjustments. It was out of
Speaker 1: control in that main event. But think about it, if
Speaker 1: you have someone in John c and even Orton. Orton
Speaker 1: is older now, but Orton works a very smart match.
Speaker 1: You know, he picks his spots. He's methodical, but like
Speaker 1: he's Randy Orton, you know, so you expect it. It's
Speaker 1: his style. But he knows just when to strike and
Speaker 1: just when to move and do and do things in
Speaker 1: the ring. That's what makes him so great. With John Cena,
Speaker 1: like I said, he's limited. So what are you do
Speaker 1: in a situation like this when you have two guys
Speaker 1: going out there and they have thirty minutes because this
Speaker 1: main event and I went on right at the top
Speaker 1: of the nine o'clock hour. Yeah, some people forget there's
Speaker 1: a UFC pay per view on right now. They had
Speaker 1: a UFC pay per view on at ten pm, so
Speaker 1: they probably wanted this show done before UFC went live.
Speaker 1: If you're wondering, well, how come this show was so short?
Speaker 1: They didn't go past the top of the hour. That's
Speaker 1: why I don't know why some people are so surprised
Speaker 1: about this. I've been mentioning this now for weeks, but
Speaker 1: they went out there. It was nine o'clock and I said, man,
Speaker 1: they're gonna give these guys a lot of time. So
Speaker 1: of course the entrance has got a lot of time,
Speaker 1: and they really milked the reaction from Orton's hometown. He
Speaker 1: got a great reception. But this is exactly what the
Speaker 1: match needed. They needed the smoke and mirrors, they needed
Speaker 1: the bells and whistles, because what else are you going
Speaker 1: to get out of these two if they have twenty
Speaker 1: five to thirty minutes to go out there and put
Speaker 1: on a main event. So thank god we got the
Speaker 1: things that we got in the main event tonight, because
Speaker 1: if we didn't, I think I would be sitting here
Speaker 1: right now doing a very different review. Think back to
Speaker 1: the Royal rumb what was it to twenty fourteen? I
Speaker 1: think it was in the match these two had so
Speaker 1: it needed that, it needed all of that, and in
Speaker 1: the end what we got was actually the best possible
Speaker 1: John scene of Randy Orton match that you could expect
Speaker 1: at this stage of the game. Honestly, I don't think
Speaker 1: that match could have gone any better for a John
Speaker 1: scene of Randy Orton match in twenty twenty five than
Speaker 1: it did tonight. It was exactly what it needed to be.
Speaker 1: Did I need all of the ref bumps? And did
Speaker 1: they go overboard with it? Sure? And I think that
Speaker 1: your kind of overview of this main event is, or
Speaker 1: maybe of the entire event top to bottom, may be
Speaker 1: colored very much by what you thought of the overbooking
Speaker 1: of that main event. If you didn't like it, if
Speaker 1: you were in a fan of it, you're probably not
Speaker 1: a fan overall of the show. But if you really
Speaker 1: love the main event, because that's really what the show
Speaker 1: was built around, your opinion of the show is probably
Speaker 1: very different. I'm more in the middle trending up than
Speaker 1: I am, you know, thinking that this show was no
Speaker 1: good or this show was garbage. The show is not garbage,
Speaker 1: but was it a show that when it was over
Speaker 1: I sat here and felt like, man, that was an
Speaker 1: excellent show. Man backlash was this huge show. No, I
Speaker 1: didn't come away from it feeling that way. I look
Speaker 1: at it like this. You know, this show had five
Speaker 1: matches on it, and this is part of the Triple
Speaker 1: eighth formula generally speaking, on these, you know, non WrestleMania
Speaker 1: type shows, he likes to keep it to about five,
Speaker 1: sometimes six, but usually five matches. And looking at the
Speaker 1: card on paper, you had John Cena and Randy Orton
Speaker 1: in the main event, right, which was a crapshoot, but
Speaker 1: they had Goother and Pat McAfee. McAfee is not a wrestler, right,
Speaker 1: just because he's wrestled, it doesn't mean he's a wrestler,
Speaker 1: but it's Goother. So you knew whatever, whatever the layout
Speaker 1: of the match was going to be, they were going
Speaker 1: to find a way to make it work. Dominic Mysterio
Speaker 1: and Penta for the Intercontinental title. How could that be
Speaker 1: a bad match, right, Becky Lynch and lyra Velkyrie, We've
Speaker 1: seen them work before. They've had a very good match before.
Speaker 1: And then a fatal four way for the United States Championship,
Speaker 1: which I think actually turned out to probably be the
Speaker 1: best thing on the entire show. But we'll get into
Speaker 1: everything here in a second. But as far as Sena
Speaker 1: and Orton are concerned, I do wonder if John Cena
Speaker 1: is just going to go around for the rest of
Speaker 1: the year until we get the inevitable baby face turn,
Speaker 1: kicking everybody in the dick until he drops the championship.
Speaker 1: That seems to be the play here. He kicked Cody
Speaker 1: Rhoads in the dick twice, he kicked Randy Orton in
Speaker 1: the dick. Who's next? You would hope that whoever is
Speaker 1: next is smart enough to be wearing protection. But I
Speaker 1: said that years ago when aj Styles was getting kicked
Speaker 1: in the dick all the time and brock Lesner was
Speaker 1: getting kicked in the dick by the Undertaker ever other week,
Speaker 1: nobody ever seems to learn their lessons, so I guess
Speaker 1: why should it be any different today. But one thing
Speaker 1: that was interesting, actually the most interesting part of that
Speaker 1: main event is something that did not even happen on
Speaker 1: the show. It happened when they went off the air.
Speaker 1: Because this was the first time that we got John
Speaker 1: Cena expressing some form of I don't know if you
Speaker 1: would call it remorse or regret over his actions over
Speaker 1: the things that he has said to the fans. Over
Speaker 1: the way that he has behaved, the way that he
Speaker 1: won this match tonight, because of course he won. You
Speaker 1: knew he wasn't gonna lose. But it was that little
Speaker 1: bit of storytelling that did not take place during the
Speaker 1: actual Backlash show, but I think was the planting of
Speaker 1: that initial seed for what we all know is coming.
Speaker 1: We don't know when, we don't know how many more
Speaker 1: months we're gonna have to suffer through the crotch attacks,
Speaker 1: but we know that at some point John Cena will
Speaker 1: go back to the good side because John is not
Speaker 1: going to retire as a heel, and so whenever that
Speaker 1: may be, we got our first little hint I think
Speaker 1: of John Cena maybe having second thoughts, and I'll talk
Speaker 1: more about that when we get to the main event.
Speaker 1: That to me was the most interesting part of the show,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't even on the actual show. But yes,
Speaker 1: John Cena is still the WWE champion coming out of Backlash.
Speaker 1: I know everybody is slow, King says, everybody getting kicked
Speaker 1: in the balls. Nobody is safe. Nobody is safe. You know,
Speaker 1: you would think that Nick all this might have a
Speaker 1: little something to say to Randy Orton. He ate his
Speaker 1: third RKO tonight. At what point does the general manager
Speaker 1: do something about this. That's the third time in the
Speaker 1: last few years that he has been dropped by Randy Orton.
Speaker 1: I guess maybe Orton will have to write another check
Speaker 1: after tonight. Bigger question now is where do we go
Speaker 1: from here? I mean, they're talking about this being the
Speaker 1: final match between John Cena and Randy Orton, and I'm
Speaker 1: not so sure about that, But I mentioned Gounther and
Speaker 1: Pat McAfee. This was the match I was at actually
Speaker 1: looking forward to more than any other single match on
Speaker 1: this show, believe it or not, because I think they've
Speaker 1: done a very good job actually of building this thing up.
Speaker 1: I thought those promos, those go home promos on Monday
Speaker 1: Night from Pat and from Gunther were excellent and it
Speaker 1: got me very interested to see how is this match
Speaker 1: going to go? Because you don't want them to overstay
Speaker 1: their welcome with it. But at the same time, if
Speaker 1: it's the most anticipated match, or it was for me
Speaker 1: anyway on this show, I don't necessarily want it to
Speaker 1: be over in two minutes or three minutes, because that's
Speaker 1: no good. But they also shouldn't be going fifteen or
Speaker 1: twenty minutes and what we got from them was exactly
Speaker 1: what it needed to be. Did it go a little
Speaker 1: longer than it had to, Yes, I think it did,
Speaker 1: but it was exactly what it needed to be. Between
Speaker 1: those two, we had the Women's Intercontinental Championship. That may
Speaker 1: have been the biggest surprise of the entire night for me.
Speaker 1: I thought for sure Becky Lynch was coming out of
Speaker 1: the show with gold, and in fact she did not.
Speaker 1: Lyra Valkyria is she still the Intercontinental Champion? Lyra Valkeria
Speaker 1: had what may have been the defining match I want
Speaker 1: him to say, may have had. She just had the
Speaker 1: defining match of her main roster run, if not her
Speaker 1: entire career in WWE against Becky Lynch, and that issue
Speaker 1: was obviously not over yet. But that was to me
Speaker 1: the big surprise of the night. We also had another
Speaker 1: surprise in the debut of a new star. We had
Speaker 1: the debut of Jeff Cobb, who has been talked about
Speaker 1: quite a bit over the last several weeks leaving New
Speaker 1: Japan Pro Wrestling. Where is he going to go? All
Speaker 1: the talk was focused on WWE and not AW. He
Speaker 1: has worked for AW before, but he reportedly was leaning
Speaker 1: towards WWE, or had already signed maybe with WWE fightful
Speaker 1: I believe with the first ones. Weeks ago had that
Speaker 1: report that he was His name was spotted on the
Speaker 1: internal roster in WWE, and some people laughed it off.
Speaker 1: What does that mean, He's not even there yet, Why
Speaker 1: would his name be listed internally? Well, guess who's there now,
Speaker 1: Jeff Cobb. I saw a report from PW Insider. Apparently
Speaker 1: Jeff Cobb took somewhere either four or five different flights
Speaker 1: from Japan all the way to Saint Louis from yesterday
Speaker 1: to today to make sure that he got to the show. Now,
Speaker 1: that's dedication. Five flights in two days, just to make
Speaker 1: sure that he would get to the show on time.
Speaker 1: So did they not reach out to him until very
Speaker 1: late in the game to say, hey, we got an
Speaker 1: idea for this show, we need you in Saint Louis.
Speaker 1: You would think they'd give him a little bit more
Speaker 1: of a heads up on that. That sounds like a
Speaker 1: fucking nightmare. I went from New York at five o'clock
Speaker 1: in the morning to Atlanta with a layover to go
Speaker 1: from Atlanta to Chicago just to get to the House
Speaker 1: of Glory Show last night, and now I feel like
Speaker 1: a fucking idiot here I hear about Jeff Cobb. He's taken,
Speaker 1: He's going from Japan to the US, He's on fucking
Speaker 1: five different planes. But there he was in Saint Louis
Speaker 1: and actually got a pretty good reaction. There were certainly
Speaker 1: a number of people in that building who knew exactly
Speaker 1: who he was, even though he has never been in
Speaker 1: WWE before. What did he do? Why is he there?
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that, We're gonna talk about this
Speaker 1: entire show. I on the whole think that the matches
Speaker 1: as far as like the n Ring, the opening match,
Speaker 1: the women's Intercontinental match, And honestly, I could go either
Speaker 1: way as far as the fatal four way or the
Speaker 1: women's match as the best match on the entire show.
Speaker 1: Because that women's match was excellent. I just tend to
Speaker 1: lean towards the four way. I just I don't know
Speaker 1: that the crowd was very hot for the opening match
Speaker 1: and it was all action, and I just thought it
Speaker 1: was fun. But I again, if you were to tell
Speaker 1: me that you thought Becky and Lyra had the best
Speaker 1: match on the show, I would not disagree with you.
Speaker 1: It was the only women's match on the show, and
Speaker 1: it was probably the best thing on the show, so
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. Overall, it did not feel like a
Speaker 1: terribly important show. It really did feel like, Okay, we
Speaker 1: have to do a show, and so let's come up
Speaker 1: with a card on paper. It was far from the
Speaker 1: strongest card the WWE is put together. When you go
Speaker 1: into a show with low expectations, a lot of times
Speaker 1: what ends up happening is when you keep your expectations low,
Speaker 1: you at least meet those expectations and probably exceed them
Speaker 1: a little bit. To me, that was backlash. That's how
Speaker 1: I would describe Backlash tonight. We'll talk about the entire
Speaker 1: show here, from top to bottom. This is your WWE
Speaker 1: Backlash twenty twenty five review. I am the Solemn Master.
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Speaker 1: that main event. He was out there too. We'll talk
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Speaker 1: See the chat is popping off. They opened the show
Speaker 1: with the fatal four way for the United States Championship,
Speaker 1: Jacob fa Tou defending his US title against La Knight,
Speaker 1: Damian Priest and Drew McIntyre, and I'm gonna have an
Speaker 1: update on Drew McIntyre here in a little bit as well.
Speaker 1: McIntyre said that if you saw SmackDown last night, and
Speaker 1: I did catch up on SmackDown after I got home
Speaker 1: very quickly. I just kind of breezed through it because
Speaker 1: I wasn't here last night. But McIntyre said it best
Speaker 1: on SmackDown that this should have been one on one.
Speaker 1: Drew McIntyre really did. He got screwed again because, as
Speaker 1: he pointed out on SmackDown, La Knight lost at WrestleMania.
Speaker 1: Damian Priest lost at WrestleMania. Drew McIntyre not only did
Speaker 1: he win at WrestleMania, but he beat l A. Knight
Speaker 1: in a Number one Contenders match on SmackDown a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and somehow this ends up being a fatal
Speaker 1: four way. I'm on McIntyre side. The man got jobbed here.
Speaker 1: He's right, He's one of those heels that what he
Speaker 1: says makes a lot of sense, and he's right. He
Speaker 1: gets booed, but he's right. So anyway, he was looking
Speaker 1: to become a Grand Slam champion here in this match Knight.
Speaker 1: He was the first one out and Knight got a
Speaker 1: Monster pop, and part of it maybe was like people
Speaker 1: were just excited the show was starting. But also he's
Speaker 1: still over, so he comes out, he gets a monster pop.
Speaker 1: Jacob Fat too though, despite that, Jacob fa to the
Speaker 1: clear fan favorite here in this match, row Row Roman
Speaker 1: reigns gently down the stream. Hey David is here, David
Speaker 1: the Roman reigns gently down the stream. Rowan Roman. Roman
Speaker 1: was not on the backlash car Roman is on vacation.
Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna see Roman again, certainly not
Speaker 1: on a on a plee until the next one. I do.
Speaker 1: I do believe he will be a money in the bank,
Speaker 1: but we're not going to see him for a little while.
Speaker 1: But with Punk being back, I think it's only a
Speaker 1: matter of time before we see Roman back on SmackDown
Speaker 1: in the next few weeks. But the reactions for Jacob
Speaker 1: thought too. They get louder and louder with each passing week.
Speaker 1: So even though he really is still technically a heel,
Speaker 1: the fans are dictating that they want him to be
Speaker 1: the chosen one. Big things are in this man's future.
Speaker 1: All you have to do is listen. Put your ear
Speaker 1: to the door, cup your ear brother, and just listen.
Speaker 1: And it gets louder and louder and louder each week.
Speaker 1: So Priest and Night they teamed up for a high
Speaker 1: low style move on FA two. McIntyre went on a
Speaker 1: whole run of offense, doling out neck breakers to everybody
Speaker 1: he kicked up. He went for a claymore to FA two,
Speaker 1: but he got cut off by La Knight. Priest then
Speaker 1: went on a run of his own the crowd chanted
Speaker 1: we want tables. He also threw a clothes line at
Speaker 1: McIntyre that sent him over the top rope to the floor.
Speaker 1: There was a spot here where Priest came charging in
Speaker 1: towards Fa two. He was outside and Fatu scooped him
Speaker 1: up and gave him a samoan drop on the top
Speaker 1: part of the timekeeper's barricade just planted and boom right
Speaker 1: on top. And then Fa Tu looks and he locks
Speaker 1: eyes with McIntyre. Now McIntyre was also outside of the ring,
Speaker 1: but he was on the opposite side. But they lock
Speaker 1: eyes and then they slowly on either side make their
Speaker 1: way into the ring. Now we have a stare down
Speaker 1: between them and the ring, and they started exchanging fire.
Speaker 1: Fa two put McIntyre down with a pop up samoe
Speaker 1: and drop followed that with a running hip attack, and
Speaker 1: then Fa Tu went up top got cut off though
Speaker 1: by Drew, who gouged at Fatu's eyes. McIntyre joined fat
Speaker 1: tow on the ropes. Here comes La Night though to
Speaker 1: trip up McIntyre and now he's upside down in a
Speaker 1: tree of woe. And Night goes up top, but he
Speaker 1: got headbutted back down to the ring by Fa Tu. McIntyre.
Speaker 1: Now he powers himself up upright and he pulls Fa
Speaker 1: Tu off the ropes with a souplex, but in so doing,
Speaker 1: fa Tu lands on Night. Then he shoots right back
Speaker 1: up and he hits McIntyre and then dives out onto Priest.
Speaker 1: At ringside, the fans went crazy for this. He went
Speaker 1: on a run of offense here that again like these
Speaker 1: people were losing their minds and they were going crazy
Speaker 1: for Jacob Fatu. So Fa Tu returns to the ring.
Speaker 1: He hits a Swanton bomb on McIntyre, but then Knight
Speaker 1: drops Fat two with a BFT, but there was Damian Priest.
Speaker 1: He puts Night down with the south of having chokes
Speaker 1: lamb but then McIntyre he takes down Priest with a
Speaker 1: Claymore kick. Priest, though, fell on top of Night and
Speaker 1: would have had the match one had McIntyre not been
Speaker 1: there to break up the pin. So McIntyre hit Future
Speaker 1: Shock ddts on Fa two and on La Night. Then
Speaker 1: he counted down. He drilled Night with a Claymore kick
Speaker 1: and he had him beat. He had that Grand Slam title.
Speaker 1: It was within his grasp, but Priest at the very
Speaker 1: last possible second, pulls the referee out to the floor
Speaker 1: and breaks the count. Michael Cole said that Priest just
Speaker 1: screwed McIntyre out of another championship. Another screw job for
Speaker 1: Drew McIntyre. This guy gets screwed more than a porn star.
Speaker 1: So Michael Call after making mention of that, we see
Speaker 1: Priest and McIntyre fighting into the timekeeper's area. They crashed
Speaker 1: and burned on the concrete floor in the ring. Fatu
Speaker 1: went for the double jump Moonsal that night was able
Speaker 1: to avoid. Knight went to the ropes. He did his
Speaker 1: double jump into an elbow onto a standing Fatu. Then
Speaker 1: he went and did it again, this time to him.
Speaker 1: He was laying down this time and he hit the
Speaker 1: elbow covered him only got a near fall. So now
Speaker 1: they cut back to Drew MacIntyre and Damien Priese. Now
Speaker 1: they're in the crowd and they are brawling on top
Speaker 1: of a couple of equipment cases. Priest then delivers a
Speaker 1: South of Heaven choke slam that sends both men crashing
Speaker 1: through two tables down below. It was a hell of
Speaker 1: a spot and that was the last we saw of
Speaker 1: them in this match. Both men were out. Officials came out,
Speaker 1: actually medics to check on them. You know what, this
Speaker 1: reminded me of this very similar in a very similar
Speaker 1: spot in the Damien Priese Bad Bunny Street fight two
Speaker 1: years ago in Puerto Rico. At backlash, Priest gave him
Speaker 1: a falcon arrow off some of the equipment cases through
Speaker 1: tables down below, same kind of spot, and that was
Speaker 1: a spectacular spot. And so was this because they were
Speaker 1: pretty high up there when they did this, So medics
Speaker 1: are out there to check. I'm both men now. I
Speaker 1: mentioned that I would have an update on Damien Priest
Speaker 1: and Drew McIntyre. Far as I know, Priest is okay. McIntyre.
Speaker 1: According to Mike Johnson on PW Insider, apparently his head
Speaker 1: missed the table, so as hillacious as that bump looked,
Speaker 1: it sounds like his head may have smacked the ground
Speaker 1: and he was being checked on. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they fear a concussion. Maybe it turns out he's okay,
Speaker 1: but they were concerned enough that he's being checked out.
Speaker 1: Apparently that's all we know right now. But yeah, that
Speaker 1: was not good. If his head missed the table and
Speaker 1: hit the floor with that kind of impact, that's not good.
Speaker 1: So back at ringside, Priest ran FA two into the
Speaker 1: ring post and then slammed his head on the announced desk.
Speaker 1: Night lays Fa two. He places him on top of
Speaker 1: the announced desk, and La Knight is teasing his own
Speaker 1: elbow drop from the top rope onto the announced desk. Now,
Speaker 1: we've seen people do this before. We've seen Shane McMahon
Speaker 1: do this before. We've seen Logan Paul Logan. Paul makes
Speaker 1: it look easy and he gets some distance on his
Speaker 1: La Knight was far enough away, or at least from
Speaker 1: the way they shot this with the camera. I don't
Speaker 1: know why. It just looked farther away than maybe it
Speaker 1: normally would be. There was no way that he would
Speaker 1: have cleared that announced desk. There's no way. There's just
Speaker 1: no way. But we'll never know. Because Solo Sokoa came
Speaker 1: out I don't know where he came from the crowd,
Speaker 1: I guess, and he pulled Jacob fought to off the
Speaker 1: table to safety. Night went after Solo when he got
Speaker 1: punched by a man on the other side of the
Speaker 1: timekeeper's barricade who reached over and punched him right in
Speaker 1: the face. And we couldn't tell at first who this
Speaker 1: person was, but it turns out that it was Jeff
Speaker 1: Cobb making his Wwe debut, fresh off the new Japan roster,
Speaker 1: fresh from Japan, apparently very fresh from Japan, as in yesterday,
Speaker 1: and there he is now. At first, we didn't really
Speaker 1: have a great look at his face and took a
Speaker 1: few seconds, so the crowd didn't really react that much
Speaker 1: at like they could tell somebody was there and they
Speaker 1: attacked la night. But when they got that close up
Speaker 1: shot of his face, he got a hell of a
Speaker 1: pop from the crowd. So whether there were that many
Speaker 1: people who really did recognize him and knew who he was,
Speaker 1: or it was just a very vocal minority of people
Speaker 1: in the building, he got a nice pop for his
Speaker 1: first appearance. And really, if you're just a WWE fan
Speaker 1: and you're very sheltered, you live a very sheltered life,
Speaker 1: and you don't really watch any other wrestling, But even
Speaker 1: if you do, if you watch TNA, maybe this new
Speaker 1: partnership between them I get you watching TNA for the
Speaker 1: first time if you watch AW even me, because he's
Speaker 1: wrestled in AW before but not very often, Like, you
Speaker 1: really shouldn't know who this man is, but there were
Speaker 1: enough people who did, so that was kind of unexpected.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, Michael Cole did identify him
Speaker 1: by his name. He said, that's one of the biggest
Speaker 1: free agents on the pl planet. That's Jeff Cobb. Well,
Speaker 1: he was a free agent, obviously, he is no longer
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Speaker 1: So Fa two recovered and he seemed very surprised and
Speaker 1: very confused by Cobb's involvement. Solo stepped aside as if
Speaker 1: to say, okay, go ahead, finish the job, get in
Speaker 1: the ring and take care of business, and fatwo. He
Speaker 1: took his time. It was like a good I felt
Speaker 1: like ten to fifteen seconds. He's standing there and he
Speaker 1: just has this look on his face. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's confusion. I don't know if it's mistrust, but
Speaker 1: clearly he was not clued in about what was happening here.
Speaker 1: But then he did just that. He got into the
Speaker 1: ring and he hit the Mighty Moon Salt and he
Speaker 1: pinned l a Night to retain the championship. After the match,
Speaker 1: Fatsu looked at Solo, he looked at Cob at ringside,
Speaker 1: and then he walked between them and he headed to
Speaker 1: the back. He walked right past them by himself. He
Speaker 1: didn't leave with them, but he was looking back like again,
Speaker 1: he either just didn't know what was going on. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know if the story is that, like, who
Speaker 1: is this guy? Like he doesn't know who he is?
Speaker 1: Maybe that's going to be the story, or it could
Speaker 1: just be that he knows exactly who he is and
Speaker 1: he doesn't trust him, and Solo didn't clue him in
Speaker 1: that he was going to be here and he was
Speaker 1: going to be part of the bloodline, which evidently it
Speaker 1: looks like Jeff Cobb is going to be part of
Speaker 1: the bloodline here. The bloodline will never die. I've told
Speaker 1: this to you before. The bloodline will never die. And
Speaker 1: that's just with Samoans from the actual bloodline. It will
Speaker 1: never die. You start incorporating all of the non blood
Speaker 1: members of that family and forget about it. The bloodline
Speaker 1: can continue on infinitely for decades. It will never end,
Speaker 1: it will never die. Just when you think things are
Speaker 1: kind of winding down a little bit, it just bubbles
Speaker 1: right back up again. Now I don't think Cobb is
Speaker 1: of Samoan descent, to my knowledge, I don't think there's
Speaker 1: any connection familial connection there at all whatsoever. But then again,
Speaker 1: there isn't with Tomatonga and Tonga Lowe either. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know that friendly with the family and they consider
Speaker 1: them like brothers and members of the family, but they're not.
Speaker 1: So it's not as if we haven't had bloodline members
Speaker 1: other than Sammy's ain in the past who are not
Speaker 1: technically part of the bloodline. They kind of broke that
Speaker 1: seal a long time ago. They can pretty much add
Speaker 1: anybody they want to with this point. Seriously, they could
Speaker 1: add El Grande Americano to the bloodline if they want to.
Speaker 1: At this point it doesn't really matter. But Jeff Cobb
Speaker 1: has found a role now in Solo's bloodline. I'm wondering,
Speaker 1: especially if Cobb had to travel in last minute like that,
Speaker 1: if that story is accurate. It makes me think Toma
Speaker 1: Tonga is injured. I don't know what the injury is,
Speaker 1: but he's going to be out for a while. Tongaloa
Speaker 1: is already injured, and so they need members. If they
Speaker 1: weren't planning on just ending the bloodline, which clearly they're
Speaker 1: not going to do that, they need members because they
Speaker 1: lost Tama and they lost Tongaloa. Was it a case
Speaker 1: where we need guys, We need bodies in this group.
Speaker 1: Solo needs somebody. We have to add somebody in this
Speaker 1: story as we continue the slow burn as far as
Speaker 1: Jacob and Solo, because eventually Jacob will either be kicked
Speaker 1: out or he'll break away. But we need somebody, and
Speaker 1: so let's put Cob in there. And that's why they
Speaker 1: came up with the idea to put Jeff Cobb in
Speaker 1: the bloodline. That's that's where my head is out on this,
Speaker 1: just because they lost guys and now they need to
Speaker 1: replace those guys with somebody else. But you know, if
Speaker 1: that's the case, poor Hicculeo, Hicculeo is in shambles right now,
Speaker 1: and that lands Atawaii guy. I mean, he may not
Speaker 1: make it, so isn't that right?
Speaker 2: Dave.
Speaker 1: But I thought this was a very good opener, very
Speaker 1: hot crowd for it, a lot of action, and it
Speaker 1: was an impactful debut for Jeff Cobb. You know, they
Speaker 1: found a way that you know, it's fairly significant. He's
Speaker 1: being interjected here into a pretty prominent, i would say,
Speaker 1: middle of the card storyline right now with what's going
Speaker 1: on with Jacob and Solo. But it's a good spot,
Speaker 1: you know, for Cob to be in instead of him
Speaker 1: just coming in and just kind of having a Russev
Speaker 1: debut where you know, he just shows up and he's
Speaker 1: just on his own. Nobody really knows who he is.
Speaker 1: At least Russev had the benefit of, you know, having
Speaker 1: had all those years in the company before people knew
Speaker 1: who he was. Obviously in Saint Louis there were a
Speaker 1: lot of people who knew who Cobb was. But the
Speaker 1: wider WWE audience is going to have to be educated
Speaker 1: about who this guy is, and they'll do that as
Speaker 1: they've done with Fat too. They'll do that on TV.
Speaker 1: But very good opener. I enjoyed this this. If this
Speaker 1: wasn't the best thing on the show Bell to Bell,
Speaker 1: it was the second best thing on the show bell
Speaker 1: to bell. But also I have to point this out.
Speaker 1: The US title scene on SmackDown all of a sudden
Speaker 1: is really cooking because you've got Jacob with the title.
Speaker 1: La Knight has lost the whole bunch of times now.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the plan is for him, but
Speaker 1: you got La Knight, Drew McIntyre, Damian Priest, You've got
Speaker 1: you know, obviously, you've got the members of the Bloodline,
Speaker 1: the other members now Cobb and Solo, and at some
Speaker 1: point as things begin to break down, you know, might
Speaker 1: we see one of them challenge for the US Championship.
Speaker 1: And there are other people as well who can be brought,
Speaker 1: you know, into the US title scene as well. Alistair
Speaker 1: Black just debuted Carmelo Hayes if they want to ever
Speaker 1: give him a serious push. So you know, the US
Speaker 1: title picture right now is looking a lot stronger than
Speaker 1: the intercontinental title picture is on Raw. Hopefully that can continue.
Speaker 1: But up next, speaking of championships, we had Becky Lynch
Speaker 1: challenging Lyra Valkyria for the Women's Intercontinental Championship. Chris wants
Speaker 1: to know where is Hicculeo. I don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: when you find out, let me know, nobody seems to know.
Speaker 1: Nobody really seems to have any idea where Hicculeo is.
Speaker 1: He's being hidden away. Off It's a direction you can fuck.
Speaker 1: And that's what I was told when I contacted w
Speaker 1: w WE to ask about Hicculeo. The Rock literally picked
Speaker 1: up the phone and told me that off is the
Speaker 1: direction that I can fuck, and then he tried to
Speaker 1: sell me some Poppa Yo. Before I move on here,
Speaker 1: the other thing about Jeff Cobb I should probably mention
Speaker 1: is I first began watching his work when I was
Speaker 1: watching Luca Underground. He wasn't Jeff Cobb and Lucia Underground.
Speaker 1: He played the character in Matanza Matanza Quato and he
Speaker 1: was a masked star on the show, but he was
Speaker 1: awesome former Lucia Underground champion, and so that was my
Speaker 1: first exposure to him. Now, now, Cobb is not a
Speaker 1: big guy as in tall, you know, he he's got
Speaker 1: he's got a very interesting build to him, a little unorthodox.
Speaker 1: So Becky Lynch and Lyra Valkyria Lynch in Valkyria they opened,
Speaker 1: they had a little shoving match and Valkyria trapped Lynch
Speaker 1: in a swinging pendulum submission, which was kind of cool,
Speaker 1: and then from that she transitioned into a surfboard stretch
Speaker 1: submission to maintain control. Remember what Lyra said on Raw
Speaker 1: in her promo, she said, I'm a better wrestler than you.
Speaker 1: So this was Lyra's showing Becky, look look at all
Speaker 1: the things that I can do that you can't. So
Speaker 1: Lynch gained control though after a while. It took Lyra
Speaker 1: to ringside and she held Lira's face out while she
Speaker 1: was taunting. What I thought was a fan And I
Speaker 1: just gonna be honest with you, what I thought was
Speaker 1: a fan in the front row. And I would have
Speaker 1: never known had Michael Cole not told me that that
Speaker 1: was Lyra's fiance or what was it? What did Elaine
Speaker 1: say on that one episode of Side Feel my fiance,
Speaker 1: I've lost my fiance? Well, he was right there in
Speaker 1: the front row, and I was like, wow, okay, and
Speaker 1: then you know, I'm looking on social media and of
Speaker 1: course people are just mocking this guy. And I had
Speaker 1: no idea that he is a wrestler. He is a wrestler.
Speaker 1: He wrestles, I believe over in Ireland or wherever. I
Speaker 1: don't know where he's wrestling these days, But yes, he
Speaker 1: is a wrestler, isn't just looked like a random fan
Speaker 1: in the crowd. I don't know what promotions he currently
Speaker 1: wrestles for, but he is a wrestler, so the more
Speaker 1: you know. So back in the ring, Valkyria rallied with
Speaker 1: a fisherman's supplex, then came a superplex for a near fall.
Speaker 1: Valkyria rolled Becky into a pin only for two Becky
Speaker 1: reversed it, and the referee caught Becky holding the ropes
Speaker 1: for leverage while she was going for the pin. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, come on now, I thought they might
Speaker 1: do a title change off a lame finish like that.
Speaker 1: Thankfully they didn't, so Valkyria then jumped from the ropes
Speaker 1: and hit a leg drop to the back of Becky's neck.
Speaker 1: Then she went for a moon saw, but Becky got
Speaker 1: her knees up and they traded strikes in the middle
Speaker 1: of the ring. Becky took Lyra down and went for
Speaker 1: the disarm her. Valkyria, though, escaped and put Becky in
Speaker 1: an arm bar. Becky rolled onto Valkyria into a pinning
Speaker 1: position to break the hold. Becky applied to disarm her.
Speaker 1: Valkyria did the same thing and rolled her into a
Speaker 1: pinning predicament was able to get out of that. Moments later,
Speaker 1: Becky hit a manhandle slam, only for a near fall,
Speaker 1: and this woman was shocked. She was shook. She thought
Speaker 1: that was it, but Lyra kicked out. So Becky went
Speaker 1: to ringside. She grabbed a chair from the timekeeper's area
Speaker 1: and then she got back into the ring with it.
Speaker 1: Jessica Carr was the referee, and so she sees this
Speaker 1: and she immediately takes the chair away from Becky. So
Speaker 1: while the referee is getting rid of the chair, Becky
Speaker 1: goes and unties one of the top turnbuckle pads. So
Speaker 1: then she goes and hits another man handle slam and
Speaker 1: then again only gets a near fall. So now Becky
Speaker 1: is pitching a fit. She tries to run Lyra into
Speaker 1: the exposed turnbuckle. The referee got in the way and
Speaker 1: then went out to the floor to retrieve the turnbuckle pad.
Speaker 1: Because it was so important here that at this very moment,
Speaker 1: as it feels like we're about to hit the pinnacle
Speaker 1: the peak of this match here, I must go outside
Speaker 1: so that I can tie this turnbuckle pad to cover
Speaker 1: the steel. So she goes and gets the turnbuckle pad.
Speaker 1: While she is trying to put the pad back on,
Speaker 1: Lyra of course gets Becky up for her night wing
Speaker 1: finish and she drops her. And those first few very
Speaker 1: precious seconds, there's no referee. Jessica turns around, she sees
Speaker 1: the pin. Nah shit, She throws the turnbuckle pad down,
Speaker 1: goes to count the fall. Becky kicks out. So Becky
Speaker 1: stuffed another night wing attempt. Then she thumbed her in
Speaker 1: the eye. And I'm not sure if she thumbed her
Speaker 1: in the eye or maybe she got her on the
Speaker 1: bridge of the nose, because from that moment forward, Lyra
Speaker 1: was favoring her nose the entire time. But at that
Speaker 1: point both women traded roll up attempts. Only Lyra's was
Speaker 1: successful and she pins Becky and she retains the Intercontinental title.
Speaker 1: So Lyra was holding her nose even after the match
Speaker 1: was over. And I didn't see any blood or anything
Speaker 1: like that, but clearly, you know, she she got bopped
Speaker 1: in the nose. I don't know again and how bad
Speaker 1: it was. It could have just been selling. But what
Speaker 1: was weird about it is that when the match was over,
Speaker 1: Becky freaked out and she locked her in the armbar,
Speaker 1: and she's wrenching on Lyra's arm, and Lyra isn't screaming.
Speaker 1: She's not really doing anything to sell the arm. Even
Speaker 1: in the immediate aftermath once they officials come out, they
Speaker 1: finally get Becky to get off of her. She's not
Speaker 1: selling the arm so much as she's selling the nose.
Speaker 1: She's still holding her nose, so it didn't really even
Speaker 1: make any sense unless she really did get hit in
Speaker 1: the nose. So Michael Cole on commentary said that she
Speaker 1: may have broken her nose. I don't know about that,
Speaker 1: but she was definitely favoring it. We were two for
Speaker 1: two so far at this point in the show. First
Speaker 1: match was very good. This was also very good. I
Speaker 1: would even say excellent. They had an excellent match. A
Speaker 1: surprising finish because I really did think we were going
Speaker 1: to get a title change here. Surprise, buten not disappointed.
Speaker 1: I don't mind that it went the other way. I
Speaker 1: think it was a very strong match and a very
Speaker 1: strong showing. You know, for both women, but especially for Lyra.
Speaker 1: Becky is the established name on this roster. We know
Speaker 1: what her resume looks like, we know she can go
Speaker 1: out there and have great matches, because she's had great
Speaker 1: matches before with Lyra in NXT. But with Lyra and
Speaker 1: with Trish and with Charlotte, I mean, you fucking Sasha,
Speaker 1: going all the way back to the NXT days, you
Speaker 1: want to run down the list of great Becky Lynch matches.
Speaker 1: We know what this woman can do, especially with the
Speaker 1: right opponent. So Lyra is the one who has been
Speaker 1: really unproven so far on the main roster. You can
Speaker 1: see how talented she is. You can tell the company
Speaker 1: thinks a lot of her, and they think very highly
Speaker 1: of her. They called her up last year and right
Speaker 1: before Becky left and went away and retired. For that
Speaker 1: roughly one year period, she was trying to give Lyra
Speaker 1: the rub right. They kind of were associating on television together.
Speaker 1: You could tell that this company really sees something in Lyra.
Speaker 1: We just haven't had the chance to really see her
Speaker 1: come out of her Shelle yet. Day was the first
Speaker 1: time where I really watched her and I said, Okay,
Speaker 1: this feels different. We're seeing a personality shift. We're seeing
Speaker 1: a side of her in her promo when they were
Speaker 1: going back and forth that we haven't seen from her. Yet,
Speaker 1: like that promo that she cut on Becky on Monday
Speaker 1: was different than any other promo we've heard her give
Speaker 1: on television since the day she debuted. And that's maybe
Speaker 1: the biggest thing about this feud so far. It's been brief,
Speaker 1: but so far it has allowed Lyra, I think, to
Speaker 1: show a side of herself that we just haven't been
Speaker 1: able to see before. So she can talk, she can
Speaker 1: work her ass off, and I just think that all around,
Speaker 1: and on top of that, she fucking won, which is
Speaker 1: even better because I could be sitting here telling you, well,
Speaker 1: you know, she lost, but even in defeat, she looked
Speaker 1: good and she got this and that's all well and good,
Speaker 1: But she fucking won, which is even better. So I
Speaker 1: really did. I enjoyed this match a great deal. The
Speaker 1: other thing I would also mention is that just because
Speaker 1: Becky did not win the championship here does not mean
Speaker 1: that she is still not going to win the championship.
Speaker 1: This is not over, This is not the end of this,
Speaker 1: Especially based on what they did here in the postmatch.
Speaker 1: I am thinking we get a rematch at Saturday Night's
Speaker 1: main event in a few weeks. I do think Becky
Speaker 1: is gonna end up winning that belt. The only thing
Speaker 1: that might change my mind is Bailey is the wild
Speaker 1: card here. So when Bailey comes back, we already know
Speaker 1: Bailey is going after one person. She's going after Becky.
Speaker 1: The only question is does she go after Becky after
Speaker 1: Becky wins the title, or does she go after Becky
Speaker 1: and effectively cost Becky the title and she never wins
Speaker 1: it and then Becky goes off to feud with Bailey.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing I'm not sure of. But this
Speaker 1: is what I was talking about before, even by Becky
Speaker 1: and Lyra, just by virtue of them working this match.
Speaker 1: The reason I have said that I have no issue
Speaker 1: with Becky winning the Intercomental Championship, especially because in the end,
Speaker 1: Lyra's just gonna win it back from her. Anyway, it
Speaker 1: helps the championship if it is on a big your name,
Speaker 1: because so far they've done I think a relatively poor
Speaker 1: job of really establishing both of these mid card women's championships.
Speaker 1: So I look at it almost as a necessity at
Speaker 1: this point. But even if she doesn't win it, look
Speaker 1: at what we got tonight. Do you realize a little
Speaker 1: factoid for you in all the months that this Women's
Speaker 1: Intercontinental title has been a thing. Okay, and this goes
Speaker 1: back to January, the beginning of the year. This is
Speaker 1: the first time that this championship has been contested on
Speaker 1: apl E And you know why that happened because Becky
Speaker 1: Lynch was in the match. And if Becky Lynch was
Speaker 1: not in the match, this fucking match would not have
Speaker 1: been on this show. They didn't even get a title
Speaker 1: defense to Wrestlemany, but it took a bigger name being
Speaker 1: involved to put a greater spotlight on this match. And
Speaker 1: that was the point that I was getting at. So
Speaker 1: surprised but not disappointed to see the Lyra get the
Speaker 1: win here Saturday Night's main event. That's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: That's when we get the rematch. Now, from one icy
Speaker 1: title we go to another. We had Dominic Mysterio defending
Speaker 1: the intercom Meental Championship against Penta and this is where
Speaker 1: the streak ended. I said we were two for two.
Speaker 1: This is where the streak ended. And I don't say
Speaker 1: that to say that this match was not good. The
Speaker 1: match was bad. It wasn't a bad match. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that at all, but this was not at the
Speaker 1: level of the first two matches. This really did feel
Speaker 1: like a raw match, especially with the finish they did.
Speaker 1: Penta hit an early backstabber Dom then crouched him on
Speaker 1: the top rope and knocked him to the floor, and
Speaker 1: this right here was one of the two best parts
Speaker 1: of the entire match. Dom follows with a suicide dive
Speaker 1: into a DDT on the floor. I've never seen him
Speaker 1: do this before. He's adding moves, He's adding new moves
Speaker 1: to his arsenal, so that was cool. Later on, pent
Speaker 1: To hit a crossbody block onto Dom on the floor
Speaker 1: from the top of not even the top rope, but
Speaker 1: the the ring post casing, and he dove out onto him.
Speaker 1: Back inside, pent To block the three Amigos and then
Speaker 1: avoided a six y one to nine attempt. Penta used
Speaker 1: a crucifix pen to get a two count. Dom came
Speaker 1: back with liv Morgan's Oblivion finish and did not do
Speaker 1: it justice because he did not win with it. But
Speaker 1: then he came back with a Mexican Destroyer to Dom
Speaker 1: on the fucking apron and then they both tumbled and
Speaker 1: fell to the floor. So that was the cue for
Speaker 1: Carlito to walk out and run distraction with the referee. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: JD McDonough and Finn Balor they hop over the barricade
Speaker 1: out of the crowd. Referee does not see them yet
Speaker 1: and mcdonoughh is holding Penta and Balor has a clear
Speaker 1: shot at him, and he goes, oh no, no, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: hold on, I'm gonna get a chair. So he goes
Speaker 1: over to the timekeepers area. Then he retrieves a chair,
Speaker 1: but he has now wasted so many precious seconds that
Speaker 1: by the time he turned it comes back over. The
Speaker 1: referee has turned around, and the referee now spots them
Speaker 1: on the outside of the ring. So Penta then dives
Speaker 1: over the referee because he ends up in the ring.
Speaker 1: He dives over the referee and hits a flip dive
Speaker 1: out onto Carlito and McDonough. Balor climbs up on the
Speaker 1: apron argues with the referee while Penta is on the ropes.
Speaker 1: And so now the referee is being distracted. And while
Speaker 1: this is going on, we had someone else show up
Speaker 1: at ringside here for this match. The brand new speed champion,
Speaker 1: fresh off of his Cinco de Mayo win. Yes, El
Speaker 1: Grande Americano makes an appearance here and he climbs up
Speaker 1: the ropes and he headbutts Penta off the ropes with
Speaker 1: the loaded mask. Penta is knocked out, he falls backwards
Speaker 1: to the mat. Dom goes up, he hits a frog splash,
Speaker 1: and he pins Penta to So we got the usual
Speaker 1: Judgment day bullshit at the finish. I mean, it's like
Speaker 1: a requisite every single fucking match with this stuff. Here
Speaker 1: comes Carlito, here comes Dom, here comes McDon We see
Speaker 1: it every week. So we got the usual Judgment Day
Speaker 1: interference here. But you had to know that it was coming.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that makes a good it sucks,
Speaker 1: but you had to know it was coming, because what
Speaker 1: did you think? Dom just won the title at WrestleMania.
Speaker 1: He wasn't losing this title. But did you honestly believe
Speaker 1: the Dominic Mysteria was going to go in there and
Speaker 1: beat Penta clean. That would make no sense. It doesn't
Speaker 1: even fit his character to do that. He's the chicken
Speaker 1: shit heal. He needs help, he needs help from his girlfriend,
Speaker 1: he needs help from his friends. That's how he wins
Speaker 1: matches or at WrestleMania. He'll steal the pin from somebody,
Speaker 1: but whatever, he'll do whatever it takes. He's not going
Speaker 1: in there and beating Penta clean. So you knew somebody
Speaker 1: was gonna get involved here, So everybody got involved, multiple
Speaker 1: people got involved. And you know, look, I'm I'm not
Speaker 1: thrilled that Penta took a loss like that. I know
Speaker 1: people are going to say, Oh, the bloom is off
Speaker 1: the rose. That's it. He's buried. He's being buried. We
Speaker 1: knew this was going to happen. Calm down, let's see
Speaker 1: where things go for Penta. I will tell you this,
Speaker 1: Penta as over as he is right now, and I'm
Speaker 1: happy for him. I'm happy that he got over so
Speaker 1: fast in front of this audience because you just never know,
Speaker 1: right these people, they don't know who he is. You
Speaker 1: never know how a new audience is going to take
Speaker 1: to him. And all the presentation is so important. But
Speaker 1: his presentation is bang on and he's doing very well.
Speaker 1: All that being said, I miss murderous Penta, I miss Pentagon, dark,
Speaker 1: Pentagon black, whatever you want to call him. I would
Speaker 1: like to see that version of more violent, sinister version
Speaker 1: of Penta at some point in the near future. I
Speaker 1: don't want to wait two years to see it. So
Speaker 1: this is all well and good, but if we're going
Speaker 1: to continue or start to see him losing more matches
Speaker 1: like this and he just sort of settles in at
Speaker 1: a certain level, they need to do something about that,
Speaker 1: because he's better than that. I don't want to see
Speaker 1: him settle. I want to see him maintain that momentum,
Speaker 1: even if it means turning him heel. But I mean,
Speaker 1: like really fucking heal, Like where he's going around breaking
Speaker 1: people's arms. You know, he has the sacrific he calls
Speaker 1: it the sacrifice. He uses a sacrifice in his matches,
Speaker 1: but I mean it's a setup spot to the finish, right,
Speaker 1: I want to see him going around breaking bones, is
Speaker 1: what I want to do. At some point, we need
Speaker 1: to get that version of Penta. This babyface like going
Speaker 1: around to the kids and everything. I mean, that's all
Speaker 1: well and good, but again, you know, fuck those kids,
Speaker 1: all right, at some point we need the darker version
Speaker 1: of Penta. My fear is that we're not going to
Speaker 1: get it because at some point they're going to want
Speaker 1: to do a Lucha Brothers reunion, of course, naturally, and
Speaker 1: that really doesn't work as a heel. So I get it.
Speaker 1: I get it. We're probably not going to get that
Speaker 1: anytime soon. But it's one loss, all right. I know
Speaker 1: he didn't win at WrestleMania either, but he didn't get
Speaker 1: pinned at WrestleMania. Here he got pinned. As long as
Speaker 1: they don't make a habit out of it, then I
Speaker 1: wouldn't worry too much about it. Let's not start using
Speaker 1: the B word. Then we had the match that, as
Speaker 1: I said earlier, this is the one that I was
Speaker 1: most looking forward to coming into this show. It was
Speaker 1: the match that intrigued me the most, and I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, outside of Saint Louis Loving, Randy Orton obviously
Speaker 1: would have the most heat out of anything on the
Speaker 1: entire show. Michael Cole apologized to us before this even started.
Speaker 1: He told us that in twenty eight years of working
Speaker 1: in this company, of having a career in professional wrestling,
Speaker 1: he has never been biased. And I was like, excuse me.
Speaker 1: Did they use the men in Black mind blanking device
Speaker 1: on him to completely wipe out the heel turn that
Speaker 1: I had to sit through and endure for years on
Speaker 1: end until it finally ended after he saved Jerry Lawler's life.
Speaker 1: Now we didn't have to suffer through heel coal anymore,
Speaker 1: because I remember those days of heal Michael Cole. He
Speaker 1: sounded pretty fucking biased to me, but he would have
Speaker 1: you believe that in twenty eight years, he's never been
Speaker 1: biased before. But he likes to think that he's earned
Speaker 1: the right to share his opinion. Right, he's earned that right,
Speaker 1: only missed three days of work in twenty eight years.
Speaker 1: We should be allowed to give our opinion on things,
Speaker 1: and it's unfair that we have to get assaulted or
Speaker 1: attacked or intimidated by people because of it. So yes,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be biased, he said towards Pat McAfee,
Speaker 1: my friend, my colleague here in this match, because he
Speaker 1: doesn't like good So Pat entered first, as he should.
Speaker 1: Gunther walked out and this guy, he was rubbing his
Speaker 1: hands together like he was getting ready to dive into
Speaker 1: a nice steak dinner. He was ready for this. He
Speaker 1: had a big smile on his face. So McAfee took
Speaker 1: his jersey off and tossed it into the crowd. Crowd
Speaker 1: chanted you tapped out at Gunther. Gunther gave McAfee a
Speaker 1: clean break early in the match and patted him on
Speaker 1: the head. McAfee struck Gunther, and then he tried to
Speaker 1: jump into the ring. He tried to he was on
Speaker 1: the apron and he tried to jump over the top
Speaker 1: rope into the ring and he tripped. He didn't clear
Speaker 1: the rope and he tripped, but he very quick, like,
Speaker 1: he didn't stop for anything. He got right back up,
Speaker 1: didn't give people a chance to really digest it. And
Speaker 1: Cole even on commentary, he's like, well, look that's it's.
Speaker 1: First of all, it's the inexperience, but also he's got
Speaker 1: the adrenaline pumping. He's all fired up, he's all nervous. Like,
Speaker 1: I like the way he at least explained it away,
Speaker 1: because it is like he's in there and he's not
Speaker 1: he's not a wrestler, right, he doesn't wrestle on a
Speaker 1: regular basis. But he's in there and he's all full
Speaker 1: of just you know, piston vinegar, and he's ready to
Speaker 1: go after this guy and you're gonna make mistakes. So
Speaker 1: at least he didn't get hurt. At least he didn't
Speaker 1: fucking tear anything. So anyway, he got right back up
Speaker 1: and he charged a Gunther who put him down with
Speaker 1: a big chop. Gunther chopped McAfee again, and then he
Speaker 1: looked over at Michael Cole and he smirked. Cole asked
Speaker 1: him because he's looking up at Gunther and it's like,
Speaker 1: just cover him and end it, which I'm sure was
Speaker 1: very encouraging for Pat McAfee to be listening to as
Speaker 1: he hears his dear friend in broadcast colleague Michael Cole
Speaker 1: repeatedly telling his opponent just cover him and end it.
Speaker 1: Gunther's not gonna end it. That he's having too much fun.
Speaker 1: Why would he end it? So he's toying with McAfee. McAfee, though,
Speaker 1: Fire's back with a chop of his own. Gun Through
Speaker 1: immediately puts him down with a big boot. So guntherer
Speaker 1: holds the ropes open for Michael Cole. He's telling Cole,
Speaker 1: once you come on inside. Wade Barrett's on commentary. He
Speaker 1: did commentary tonight with Cole, and he advised Cole to
Speaker 1: sit down and avoid eye contact with Gunther. Wade is
Speaker 1: the only one with brains, honestly, in this entire thing here,
Speaker 1: he was the only one smart enough not to get
Speaker 1: himself involved. He's like, sit down, Okay, you're not a wrestler,
Speaker 1: sit down, do not make eye contact with this man
Speaker 1: and just mind your own business for crying out loud.
Speaker 1: He's the only one with brains. McAfee threw a big
Speaker 1: slap at Gunther, and Gunther though put him right down
Speaker 1: with a chop. So he places McAfee on the top
Speaker 1: turn buckle and then he goes up behind McAfee and
Speaker 1: he's trying for a gut wrench souplex. McAfee, though avoids it,
Speaker 1: elbows him off the ropes, and Pat goes for a
Speaker 1: moon salt. Now Guntherer moves out of the way with
Speaker 1: Pat lands on his feet. Gunther goes for a German supplex.
Speaker 1: Only McAfee. He kind of sort of landed on his
Speaker 1: feet and he threw a kick. McAfee then punt it
Speaker 1: because he was a punter, so he is kicking gun there.
Speaker 1: He punts gun there, you know, not like the way
Speaker 1: Randy Orton didn't punch him in the fucking head, but
Speaker 1: threw a punk kick at him, basically covered him and
Speaker 1: Gunther kicks out at one. He's like, yeah, we're not
Speaker 1: doing this. He kicks out at one. Some moments later,
Speaker 1: Guntherer puts McAfee down with a power bomb and Cole
Speaker 1: again outside the ring, is yelling for him, just end it,
Speaker 1: Just end the match. You know, I could recall many
Speaker 1: times years ago one of the John Cena Randy Orton
Speaker 1: matches from their classic feud, where I believe I was
Speaker 1: muttering those very words to myself as I was watching
Speaker 1: that pay per view. I don't remember which one of
Speaker 1: their eight hundred matches it was, but I too was
Speaker 1: sitting here, going end it please. Gunther has no interest
Speaker 1: in ending it though. He puts McAfee in a Boston crab.
Speaker 1: So now Cole's seen enough and Michael Cole he takes
Speaker 1: off his headset and the crowd now gets loud all right,
Speaker 1: because they think Michael Cole, Actually, what do they think
Speaker 1: Michael Cole was going to do here? If they really
Speaker 1: cared about this man, they would be expressing concern. They
Speaker 1: wouldn't be encouraging him to get involved in this match.
Speaker 1: But he puts his headset down and he goes over
Speaker 1: and he's gonna play cheerleader for Pat McAfee. So Gunther
Speaker 1: grabs Cole, pulls him into the ring, and a commentary
Speaker 1: Barrett is going on, that's a fifty eight year old man.
Speaker 1: What are you doing well. You know what, that fifty
Speaker 1: eight year old man had no business putting his headset down.
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Speaker 1: catches gun Through with a kick that allowed Cole to
Speaker 1: scamper back to the floor. McAfee rolls up Gunther for
Speaker 1: a two count. Gunther now tries to supplex McAfee, who's
Speaker 1: on the apron, and he's gonna supplex him back into
Speaker 1: the ring. Now, Michael Cole is right there and he's
Speaker 1: kind of hunched down like he almost doesn't want to
Speaker 1: be seen. And Gunther tries to supplex McAfee back into
Speaker 1: the ring, and Cole reaches up and he trips Gunther
Speaker 1: so that McAfee falls on top of him. So he
Speaker 1: did the Bobby Heenan spot. Okay, this is how Bobby
Speaker 1: Heenen helped Rick Rude beat The Ultimate Warrior to win
Speaker 1: the IC title. And I'm watching this and I almost
Speaker 1: had a fucking heart attack watching it because I'm just thinking,
Speaker 1: don't you dare, don't you dare even think about it?
Speaker 1: And thankfully they did. No, I mean, they thought about it,
Speaker 1: but they didn't do it. And Gunther kicked out because
Speaker 1: I thought for sure, like at that moment, I'm like you,
Speaker 1: so you better not be doing what I think you're
Speaker 1: about to do. But they didn't. Then gun they kicked out,
Speaker 1: So gun theer he stares down Cole on the floor
Speaker 1: like you can't believe what just happened here because referee
Speaker 1: didn't see it. McAfee sneaks up behind Gunther and he
Speaker 1: puts him in a choke. He puts him in a sleeperhole.
Speaker 1: Gunher though, gets out of it because he just destroys
Speaker 1: this man with the lariat, okay, turns him almost inside out.
Speaker 1: So then he puts McAfee in a sleeper hole, and
Speaker 1: he got him down on the mat, and it looked academic.
Speaker 1: It looked like, okay, Pat's fading and this is going
Speaker 1: to be the end of it here. But then McAfee,
Speaker 1: you know, his hand is kind of falling. But then
Speaker 1: it's like he hulks up. He's hulking up, okay, and
Speaker 1: he manages to power out of it enough that Gunther
Speaker 1: actually gets back to his feet, but then Gunther ends
Speaker 1: up taking him back down to the mat for a
Speaker 1: second time. Pat's trying to get the arm up, guntherer
Speaker 1: uses his leg to trap the arm and then eventually McAfee,
Speaker 1: as he should goes nighty night, and the free calls
Speaker 1: for the stoppage and Gunthro wins the match, which is
Speaker 1: the only outcome of this match that was possible here.
Speaker 1: So when the match is over, Cole gets into the
Speaker 1: ring he's gonna go check on Pat, and Gunther is
Speaker 1: looking down at both men. McAfee gets to his feet,
Speaker 1: So now you've got McAfee and Cole standing there and
Speaker 1: Gunther is standing there, and we don't know what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen here. And I'm thinking, are we gonna hear are
Speaker 1: we gonna hear the music? Are we gonna see him?
Speaker 1: Are we gonna see Goldberg make it appearance here? There
Speaker 1: was no Goldberg. There was no Goldberg on the show.
Speaker 1: That's good. But instead Gunther is looking at that McAfee
Speaker 1: and I almost thought he was putting his hand out
Speaker 1: for a handshake at first, but he was basically just
Speaker 1: sort of nodding to him as a show of respect,
Speaker 1: and then he left and that was it. Gunther paid
Speaker 1: respect to Pat McAfee. It's one of the things I
Speaker 1: like about his character because for so many years. You know,
Speaker 1: the top heels monster heels, not all the monster heels,
Speaker 1: but it was a Vince McMahon thing where they all
Speaker 1: operated the same way more or less. Right, there really
Speaker 1: weren't a lot of shades of gray. They cheated, or
Speaker 1: some of them were chicken shit heels, but very rarely,
Speaker 1: you know, did a match end, for example, and the
Speaker 1: heel would go for a handshake, or the heel would express,
Speaker 1: you know, outward respect for their opponent. We saw what
Speaker 1: happened last year in Saudi Arabia when Gunther lost to
Speaker 1: Cody Rhodes. Right, he went over to Cody, he said
Speaker 1: some stuff to him, paid respect to him. I think
Speaker 1: he shook his hand and he left. It's like, huh, interesting,
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what he did here. Because Gunther
Speaker 1: is the kind of heel where, whether you know, the
Speaker 1: other guy beats him, or even if they don't beat him,
Speaker 1: but they put up a hell of a fight, He's
Speaker 1: not above showing respect to his opponent. So that's what
Speaker 1: he did here. That's how I read it. He's done
Speaker 1: it before. It's kind of his thing. You don't necessarily
Speaker 1: expect it. I wasn't expecting that to happen here. I
Speaker 1: thought he was going to drop him again, but he didn't,
Speaker 1: and then he left and that was it. So they
Speaker 1: gave them fourteen minutes for this. Fourteen minutes is what
Speaker 1: this got and can't really argue it because the crowd
Speaker 1: ate it up. The way they laid this match out
Speaker 1: was exactly how this match should have gone. Send them
Speaker 1: out there. You have gun the underestimate this man, even
Speaker 1: though I'm raw, he said he wasn't going to. He
Speaker 1: had that big smile on his face like he knew
Speaker 1: how this story is going to end before it even ends.
Speaker 1: And then get Pat some hope spots, let him rally
Speaker 1: the audience. The crowd was firmly behind him. You know,
Speaker 1: sometimes you get that heel, that really super heel crowd
Speaker 1: where they either just cheer for all the heels or
Speaker 1: they decide, you know what, we want to see Gunther
Speaker 1: murder this man. We would like to witness a murder here.
Speaker 1: And they didn't do that. They were behind Pat, they
Speaker 1: were behind Cole. They played their role in this match
Speaker 1: and they were hot for it the entire time. McAfee
Speaker 1: did his part. You know, he got tripped up in
Speaker 1: that one spot, but so what and Gunther is gun there.
Speaker 1: You know, he's always great, He plays his role exactly
Speaker 1: how he needs to. He's got that smug look on
Speaker 1: his face, like he knows he's better than everybody and
Speaker 1: it just annoys the shit out of you. But he
Speaker 1: can't really argue it. The guy's been a champion for
Speaker 1: eighty five percent of his run there. I am curious though,
Speaker 1: like if they don't tie this in with Goldberg's retirement match,
Speaker 1: because I have to assume that Gunther is still going
Speaker 1: to be the guy that they have lined up for
Speaker 1: that spot, and Goldberg himself has said that he's having
Speaker 1: the retirement match in the summer. Right, Summer is not
Speaker 1: that far off. Summer is next month, which really only
Speaker 1: leaves two options Night of Champions because it's Saudi and
Speaker 1: they might want him in or SummerSlam, which is what
Speaker 1: I'm thinking. So how did they get to that match?
Speaker 1: I thought this would be the connection. You know, McAfee's
Speaker 1: got the NFL background, Maybe he calls in some reinforcements
Speaker 1: if he needs help. Not in the match, but like
Speaker 1: if they were to continue this, based on what we
Speaker 1: saw here, this looks like it's one and done. I
Speaker 1: guess we'll find out on Monday, but certainly the way
Speaker 1: he paid respect to Pat didn't lead me to believe
Speaker 1: that this is really going to go any further. So
Speaker 1: what are they going to do with Gunther now? He's
Speaker 1: not in the title picture? It feels now coming out
Speaker 1: of this like until and unless we get to the
Speaker 1: Goldberg thing, he's sort of on an island all onto himself.
Speaker 1: Maybe he disappears again for a few weeks, I don't know.
Speaker 1: If not the Goldberg match, I don't know where he
Speaker 1: goes next. He's just in this weird almost holding pattern
Speaker 1: right now where he just doesn't really have a spo
Speaker 1: you know, certainly not for the two top titles. Those
Speaker 1: are occupied. And so if he's not wrestling for a
Speaker 1: world championship, then what do you do with him? So
Speaker 1: that'll be interesting to see if we even see him
Speaker 1: on TV this week or if he goes away for
Speaker 1: a little while. But I enjoyed this for what it was.
Speaker 1: I don't think it needed to go fourteen minutes. I
Speaker 1: think you could have shaved a few minutes off of it.
Speaker 1: But it worked. It worked exactly the way that it
Speaker 1: was supposed to work. And then we get to the
Speaker 1: main event for the final time. Maybe John Cena defends
Speaker 1: the WWE Championship against Randy Orton. Right at the top
Speaker 1: of the nine pm hour is when the entrances began
Speaker 1: for this match, so you knew they were getting out
Speaker 1: of there no later than ten pm. Randy Orton comes
Speaker 1: out first. They brought back the decibel meter for some
Speaker 1: of the entrances, so for Randy's entrance, they had it
Speaker 1: in the lower left corner. I don't even know how
Speaker 1: accurate it is. It's just the fucking graphic they put
Speaker 1: on the screen. I don't know. Do they have somebody
Speaker 1: in the back measuring the decibel level and piping out
Speaker 1: real numbers. I don't trust anything I see with this company.
Speaker 1: But they were loud. That's all you need to know.
Speaker 1: They were in Saint Louis. They sang his song. I'm
Speaker 1: sure Randy had his family there, his friends were there,
Speaker 1: his dad was probably there, his wife, his kids. It's
Speaker 1: a big night for the Orton family. Could he win
Speaker 1: championship number fifteen? That was the question coming into this show.
Speaker 1: And then John Cena comes out, very basic graphics, title
Speaker 1: belt turned backwards. Same John Cena entrance that he's been
Speaker 1: making since he went heel. Alicia Taylor did the ring intros,
Speaker 1: and we were off to the races for what very
Speaker 1: well may be the final John Cena Randy Orton match.
Speaker 1: And it started with a collar and elbow tie up
Speaker 1: between these two into the stalemate. Then offered a handshake
Speaker 1: and he poked Randy in the eye instead. Randy returned
Speaker 1: the favor a moment later with an ipoke of his own.
Speaker 1: See that's why Cody Rhodes is no longer the WWE champion.
Speaker 1: Cody couldn't even bring himself to do what Randy did here.
Speaker 1: That's why he lost his title. And he got kicked
Speaker 1: in the dick because he's an idiot. If he would
Speaker 1: have been willing to get down to the dirt with
Speaker 1: this man, he might still be the champion. See that
Speaker 1: should be the story. Scena got frustrated, he tried to leave,
Speaker 1: got about I don't know, halfway down the aisle, but
Speaker 1: Orton went out to cut him off, fought him all
Speaker 1: the way back to the ring, twenty punches in the
Speaker 1: corner as the crowd chanted along, and then an upper
Speaker 1: cut put Scena down for two. Michael Cole says he
Speaker 1: didn't really think he was gonna win with that. He's
Speaker 1: just trying to wear this man down. So they traded
Speaker 1: sleeper whole attempts until Orton put him down with a
Speaker 1: back supplex. Sena came back with a five knocks shuffle.
Speaker 1: He attempted an attitude adjustment, but Orton slipped out and
Speaker 1: he dropped him with a clothes line. He dropped him
Speaker 1: after that with a snap power slam. Then came the
Speaker 1: draping DDT attempt Sina though rolled up Orton instead for
Speaker 1: a two count. Sena now tries for the STFU, as
Speaker 1: they are once again calling it the STFU. He tries
Speaker 1: for it, but he didn't have it all locked in. Honestly,
Speaker 1: let's be honest here, Okay, whenever Sena does this move
Speaker 1: nine times out of ten, and I don't just mean now,
Speaker 1: I mean his entire career after you know, he almost
Speaker 1: killed Dumaga with it, it looks like shit. And I
Speaker 1: can understand it because apparently he was really And there
Speaker 1: was one time I don't remember what show it was,
Speaker 1: it might have been their TLC match. I could be wrong,
Speaker 1: had unforgiven because I think Edge talked about this early
Speaker 1: in his career, Sena had a tendency. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was just a case of him not knowing
Speaker 1: his own strength or him just getting a little over excited,
Speaker 1: but he would lock that STF on and he was
Speaker 1: choking people out with it, like legitimately choking them out
Speaker 1: where it's like, okay, dude, like you know, loosen up
Speaker 1: a little bit. That's what happened with Umaga when they
Speaker 1: had their last man standing match at the Royal Rumble.
Speaker 1: I think he tied the ring rope around his neck
Speaker 1: and he yanked back on it. The fucking guy passed out.
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying that, you know, I want to
Speaker 1: see people turning blue in the face when John Cena
Speaker 1: puts them in an STF. But for God's sakes, like
Speaker 1: when you even have stone cold Steve Austin over the
Speaker 1: years watching your matches and begging you to, as Austin
Speaker 1: would say, tighten your shit up, like it's just never
Speaker 1: looked good. It's just never looked good. So that's just
Speaker 1: been a scene of thing for the longest time, and
Speaker 1: it didn't look any better here in this match. But
Speaker 1: he tried to lock it in and Orton was able
Speaker 1: to get out of it. Then he got the draping DDT.
Speaker 1: So then comes the set up for the RKO. Sina
Speaker 1: stumbles to his feet, Sina blocks it. He got Orton
Speaker 1: on his shoulders for an AA and he delivers it,
Speaker 1: but no because on the way down Randy Orton catches him.
Speaker 1: He counters out of it into an RKO. Now, it
Speaker 1: was a great spot. I don't know if they've ever
Speaker 1: done that before. I mean, honestly, as many matches as
Speaker 1: these two have had, I'm sure it's been done. Even
Speaker 1: if it was a TV match, I'm sure it's been
Speaker 1: done at some point before. I just don't recall them
Speaker 1: doing that spot offhand. But at first, like at first,
Speaker 1: it didn't really get like a huge reaction because I
Speaker 1: don't know how many people actually knew that Orton even
Speaker 1: countered it into an RKO, especially if you're sitting up
Speaker 1: in like the two hundred level seats you're watching this,
Speaker 1: unless you're watching the big screen. It just looks like
Speaker 1: seeing it hit aen attitude adjustment. But then they were
Speaker 1: both down and it's like, what the hell happened here?
Speaker 1: But set, yeah, he does Orton did. Man what a counter?
Speaker 1: The best move set from Randy Orton. So yeah, he
Speaker 1: countered it into an RKO. But now both men were
Speaker 1: down and they got a this is awesome chant as
Speaker 1: they're both laying there on the mat. So then we
Speaker 1: got the A boo spot back and forth, and we
Speaker 1: got a proper attitude adjustment by Sena. Orton kicks out.
Speaker 1: Sina gets up, he hits a shoulder tackle. When he
Speaker 1: goes for the second diving shoulder tackle, he dives right
Speaker 1: into an RKO by Randy Orton. So that was a
Speaker 1: nice counter. Orton, though could not capitalize right away, so
Speaker 1: there was no pen attempt. But then he noticed that
Speaker 1: Sina was in prime position for a punt kick and
Speaker 1: he backs up into the corner. He goes for the punt.
Speaker 1: Sena moves out of the way and then picks him
Speaker 1: up for a second attitude adjustment and he covers Orton
Speaker 1: and again Orton kicks out. So now Sena begins to
Speaker 1: mock Randy Orton. He begins to pound on the mat,
Speaker 1: and you gotta be careful when you do that, because
Speaker 1: Randy Orton, I think he dislocated his shoulder doing that
Speaker 1: in a match with I want to say triple h
Speaker 1: ones literally he's banging on the mat, pounding on the mat,
Speaker 1: and all of it says like ah shit, and his
Speaker 1: arm went out. I think he also broke his collarbone
Speaker 1: a couple of times. I don't think that was a
Speaker 1: broken collar bone though, I think that was a different
Speaker 1: shoulder injury. But he's banging on the mat and he
Speaker 1: backs and then he backs up into the corner Sena does,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna give a punk kick of his own.
Speaker 1: Orton moves out of the way, though there's another RKO
Speaker 1: attempt Sina those shoves him off into referee Chad Patten.
Speaker 1: So there's your ref bump, and now I'm just waiting
Speaker 1: for it. I'm just waiting for fien, fien, fien, because
Speaker 1: now I'm conditioned to expect it. Referee is down and
Speaker 1: Sina lands a third attitude adjustment, but there's no referee
Speaker 1: and Sena knows it. He's got a smirk on his face.
Speaker 1: So Sena leaves the ring. He grabs the title belt,
Speaker 1: but as soon as he climbs back into the ring,
Speaker 1: Orton drops him with an RKO. There's no referee, though,
Speaker 1: but he's starting to stir, and now the referee crawls
Speaker 1: over to count. Sena kicks out it too, so they
Speaker 1: end up outside the ring. Orton begins moving all the
Speaker 1: furniture off the announced desk. Chad Patten is suddenly now
Speaker 1: pleading with Randy Orton. Referee is outside the ring. He's
Speaker 1: pleading with Randy, don't do this. Whatever you're about to do,
Speaker 1: don't do it. Sena gets up and, by the way,
Speaker 1: whatever it is that Orton was getting ready to do,
Speaker 1: we'll never know, because Chad Patten was trying to talk
Speaker 1: him out of it. But Sena shoves Orton into the
Speaker 1: referee and Patten takes a referee I think he took
Speaker 1: a bump into the steps second ref bumb. Now of
Speaker 1: the match, Chad Patten wants again down Sina lifts Orton
Speaker 1: up on his shoulders, but Orton slips out and Orton
Speaker 1: delivers an attitude adjustment to John Cena onto the announced
Speaker 1: desk and he bounces off the desk and the desk
Speaker 1: does not break, at least not right away. It did break,
Speaker 1: but it was like a delayed reaction. It was the
Speaker 1: weirdest thing because he drops him on the table because
Speaker 1: they have these like specially reinforced announced desks. Now that
Speaker 1: are like super fancy, so it didn't break, and I
Speaker 1: think they cut away to Orton, but when they cut back,
Speaker 1: the table was like partially broken, like I didn't even
Speaker 1: see how it happened, but like one leg was still standing.
Speaker 1: It was like a ramp and the other leg was
Speaker 1: down on the ground. So Orton goes under the ring
Speaker 1: and he drags out a table, a regular wooden table,
Speaker 1: and he sets it up on the floor and then
Speaker 1: he goes back to Sena and he delivers an attitude
Speaker 1: adjustment to John Cena through that table, and I just
Speaker 1: it would be fucking hilarious. And actually, this is exactly
Speaker 1: what I think happened. The table was supposed to break,
Speaker 1: or he wanted the announced table to break, and it didn't,
Speaker 1: and then it kind of broke and it looked funky,
Speaker 1: and he's like, fuck this, You're going through a table.
Speaker 1: So he went under because at first he went under
Speaker 1: the ring and he couldn't find what he was looking for,
Speaker 1: so he had to go around to a different side,
Speaker 1: and then he found a table, and he brought Sena
Speaker 1: over and he put him to the table. That was
Speaker 1: an audible that he caught. I guarantee you that was
Speaker 1: an audible in this match, He's like, you're going through
Speaker 1: a fucking table. I don't care what I gotta do.
Speaker 1: So that was funny. So Orton puts Scena back in
Speaker 1: the ring. We still have no referee though. Orton sets
Speaker 1: up for another RKO and he hits it. And at
Speaker 1: this point I stopped keeping track. I was trying to like, Okay,
Speaker 1: how many attitude adjustments? How many rkos? The answer is
Speaker 1: a lot. I don't even know what the specific number is.
Speaker 1: They were going into their full finisher spam mode here.
Speaker 1: You know, finisher spam is an interesting thing because generally
Speaker 1: you just get to a point where I hate it.
Speaker 1: There are some matches where they go so overboard with it.
Speaker 1: It's one of the biggest reasons I hate. I despise
Speaker 1: the second WrestleMania match that John CNN the rock Head
Speaker 1: Like that's all it was. It was like attitude adjustment,
Speaker 1: attempt rock bottom, attitude adjustment, attitude adjustment, rock bottom rock bottom,
Speaker 1: Like how I play video games, right, it works for me,
Speaker 1: but like when you're sitting here watching it, it sucks.
Speaker 1: There are certain matches though, and in both companies, really
Speaker 1: in any company, because it has become a very very
Speaker 1: common thing in wrestling. I would say, more so in
Speaker 1: the last fifteen years than any not that it didn't
Speaker 1: happen before that, because it did. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: happening even back in the attitude era, but it got
Speaker 1: really bad like in the last fifteen years or so,
Speaker 1: where they are just so heavily reliant on it in
Speaker 1: so many main events. Now, some people can make it work.
Speaker 1: Sean Michaels and the Undertaker, they found a way to
Speaker 1: make it work, and they had that epic match at
Speaker 1: Wrestle Minnie. It's twenty five. Adam Cole and Johnny Gargano
Speaker 1: might have been that first takeover match. They had one
Speaker 1: of the best matches in NXT history. There was a
Speaker 1: lot of that in that match too. But there are
Speaker 1: other matches I'll watch and it just takes me out
Speaker 1: of the match. So it really depends on the situation.
Speaker 1: It didn't bother me as much here. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: kind of hilarious just how many fucking rkos and attitude
Speaker 1: adjustments we got. But they had to. They had to.
Speaker 1: These two guys were not going to go out there
Speaker 1: and have a technical masterpiece. They needed that. That's the
Speaker 1: point I was making at the beginning of the review,
Speaker 1: the smoke and mirrors and the ref bumps, and you know,
Speaker 1: I could have done without the nut shot, but this
Speaker 1: is the kind of stuff that they had to do
Speaker 1: because what else are they going to do? What else
Speaker 1: can Sinea do at this point if not the kind
Speaker 1: of match that we saw here, But it is comical.
Speaker 1: I just stopped counting because we got so many of them.
Speaker 1: So anyway, Orton sets up for an RKO and hits it.
Speaker 1: Here comes a new referee, referee Eddie Orengo. I believe
Speaker 1: he's the Mets fan good man. Eddie comes down to
Speaker 1: the ring, he sprints down, makes the count. Sena kicks
Speaker 1: out a two, so Orton begins arguing with the referee
Speaker 1: over the count. He thought it was three. Meanwhile, Sena
Speaker 1: goes and grabs the belt and he goes to strike
Speaker 1: Orton with it, but he dodges and Sena blasts the
Speaker 1: referee with the title instead. Third ref bump of the
Speaker 1: match Jeff Jarrett Man, his loins are tingling down there
Speaker 1: in Nashville. Oh, he's loving this third ref bump here
Speaker 1: in this match. Orton then hits another RKO. Eddie covers
Speaker 1: now Nick all this runs into the ring. He's in
Speaker 1: full suit. At first you think he's gonna count the fall,
Speaker 1: but no, he's in there to check on the referee.
Speaker 1: And there's a whole gaggle of producers that come to
Speaker 1: the ring with him and they're checking on the referee.
Speaker 1: Orton is just furious about this. There's no referee. He's
Speaker 1: got the championship one. Nick Aldos comes over. He's trying
Speaker 1: to talk to Orton. Orton's got his head in his hands,
Speaker 1: like he can't believe what's going on here. So he
Speaker 1: does the only sensible thing to do, which is he
Speaker 1: drops Nick Alldis with an RKO, the third one that
Speaker 1: he has eaten in the last two years. But he
Speaker 1: wasn't the only one who got dropped with an RKO.
Speaker 1: Nick Aldis got dropped. Shane Helms got dropped, Davari got dropped,
Speaker 1: Jamie Noble got dropped. There was some other guy in
Speaker 1: the ring who took this exaggerated bump. I have no
Speaker 1: fucking idea who he was. I've never seen this man
Speaker 1: before in my life. I don't think I didn't recognize him.
Speaker 1: But he took an RKO as well. He was actually
Speaker 1: the first one after all this, if anybody wants to
Speaker 1: go back and rewatch that who was the guy who
Speaker 1: took the RKO right after Nick Aldis and before Shane Helmes.
Speaker 1: I don't know who that person is, but you got
Speaker 1: bodies everywhere now right, They've all been rcaoed into oblivion.
Speaker 1: Now Orton is setting up one more time for the
Speaker 1: punt kick to John Cena, when all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Our Truth slips into the ring and he gets in
Speaker 1: the line of fire and Orton has to pull up
Speaker 1: and he's looking at him like what are you doing here?
Speaker 1: And Truth is begging him not to do it. He's
Speaker 1: got his hands like clasped toget. He's begging Randy Orton
Speaker 1: not to do this. So Orton drops him with an RKO.
Speaker 1: But then John Cena delivers a low blow and then
Speaker 1: he grabs the championship and he blasts Orton in the
Speaker 1: skull with it. He gets rid of the evidence, he
Speaker 1: makes the cover and wouldn't you know, look who just
Speaker 1: woke up from his nap, Chad Patten. And so the
Speaker 1: referee happens to come back into the ring at the
Speaker 1: very moment that John Cena has the match one, he
Speaker 1: counts the three and John Cena retains the championship. So
Speaker 1: after the match is over, scene it gets on the mic,
Speaker 1: he could they go through all the replays and everything?
Speaker 1: Scene it gets on the mic and he says, I
Speaker 1: know you can't see me, but can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Cut my damn music? They cut his music and he says,
Speaker 1: I don't need music. What I need is competition. And
Speaker 1: he says he's sure as hell doesn't need us. Drink
Speaker 1: it in Saint Louis because this is what the last
Speaker 1: real champion looks like. And he went from corner to corner,
Speaker 1: posing as the fans showered him with booze. Was it
Speaker 1: overbooked as all hell? Yes it was. Did it make
Speaker 1: the match worse? No, it probably made the match better
Speaker 1: because my expectations wants the bell right. This was like
Speaker 1: to me coming into this, the classic case of Orton's
Speaker 1: gonna come out. He's gonna get a monster reaction scene,
Speaker 1: he's gonna get booed, and then the bell rings. What
Speaker 1: are you really going to get out of John Seena
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five? What have we seen from him
Speaker 1: so far that would lead you to believe that he's
Speaker 1: going to go in there in a one on one match,
Speaker 1: So we're, you know, very different from the elimination chamber
Speaker 1: where the five other guys and he's not in there
Speaker 1: for the entire match. What do you really expect that
Speaker 1: of Seena in a paper like a twenty thirty minute
Speaker 1: pay per view made event. Exactly what we got here,
Speaker 1: and they tried. They threw everything they could into this match,
Speaker 1: all all of the the finisher attempts and the punk
Speaker 1: kick attempts and the counters, and there were a couple
Speaker 1: of unique RKAO counters in this match that I enjoyed
Speaker 1: from Orton. You know, I thought those were very good.
Speaker 1: And then they got outside and they did some stuff
Speaker 1: outside with the tables, but then you know, the ref bumps,
Speaker 1: and of course, you know, it got ridiculous with the
Speaker 1: ref bumps. But this went better than I really could
Speaker 1: have ever imagined it would. This was the best possible
Speaker 1: John Cena Randy Orton match that we could have asked
Speaker 1: for in Saint Louis tonight, and that's really all that
Speaker 1: I could ask for. I thought this thing had the
Speaker 1: potential to be a dud, especially if the crowd maybe
Speaker 1: wasn't really able to carry it like I thought they would.
Speaker 1: The crowd was great. Crowd was into everything they were doing,
Speaker 1: you know, because it's Randy and it's Saint Louis, and
Speaker 1: to them it's Randy Orton and John Cena. And it
Speaker 1: was marketed as the last time, even though it might
Speaker 1: not be, but it could be, right, So you get
Speaker 1: to be part of history. You get to be part
Speaker 1: of the very last match between John Cena and Randy Orton.
Speaker 1: So the crowd was great. They threw everything they possibly could.
Speaker 1: Sina wins. No surprise there, right, nobody. I don't even
Speaker 1: think Cowboy Bob was sitting in the crowd if he
Speaker 1: was in the crowd watching this match thinking his son
Speaker 1: was going to walk away with the championship win. You know,
Speaker 1: I talked about the possibility of our truth get involved
Speaker 1: last week on the SmackDown Review, and the way that
Speaker 1: I kind of looked at it is you can do
Speaker 1: almost like a useful idiot story where Sina sees that
Speaker 1: this man is still sticking up for him even after
Speaker 1: everything he's said and done, and he realizes, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm going to lean into this because this guy actually
Speaker 1: buys into my bullshit, or even have seen it as
Speaker 1: a look at it as bullshit, but like he believes
Speaker 1: in me, he believes in my cause I could use
Speaker 1: this and Truth becomes like his useful idiot for a
Speaker 1: few months until eventually he snaps out of it. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the attact they're going to
Speaker 1: take with it, but we have not seen the last
Speaker 1: And actually somebody did mention this before. Yeah, Bliss Fan
Speaker 1: just mentioned it also seeing it turned on truth in
Speaker 1: the press conference, So I guess that answers that question.
Speaker 1: They're not going to go the useful idiot route because
Speaker 1: apparently he did. He give him an attitude adjustment at
Speaker 1: the press conference, That's what I heard, So whatever it
Speaker 1: was that he did, apparently our truth has been attacked
Speaker 1: by John Cena. John Cena wants nothing to do with
Speaker 1: this man, and I did mention that also. You know,
Speaker 1: when Sena first won Heel, I said, man, if you
Speaker 1: really want to get heat on this guy, you have
Speaker 1: him go after one of the most beloved characters in
Speaker 1: the entire company. But I think if you wanted to, though,
Speaker 1: they could have gone the other way with it too
Speaker 1: and really milt it for a while before Sina then
Speaker 1: turned on him. But I wonder if you know they
Speaker 1: had him do that to him because they're setting up
Speaker 1: truth for the next match, Because this is what I
Speaker 1: was going to get into now, which is, you know,
Speaker 1: where do you go from here? Okay, he just beat
Speaker 1: Randy Ort. Cody Rhodes did not show up. I thought
Speaker 1: there was a chance he might. There was no Cody
Speaker 1: Rhodes on the show tonight. What is next for John Cena?
Speaker 1: Because before what happened at the press conference happened when
Speaker 1: the show went off the air. John Cena leaves the
Speaker 1: ring and he had a look on his face, and
Speaker 1: the camera was right up in his face, and the
Speaker 1: look on his face was one of almost regret, like
Speaker 1: what have I done? What am I doing? He's looking day,
Speaker 1: He's got the title on the apron, he's looking at
Speaker 1: it and he walks to the back. But it was
Speaker 1: almost like a like an introspective look on his face.
Speaker 1: And I looked at that and I said, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is probably the first seed being planted for what will
Speaker 1: be the eventual redemption arc. We all, I think pretty
Speaker 1: much expect it is going to be coming at some
Speaker 1: point in the next few months, so that we can
Speaker 1: get Scena back to being the John Cena of old,
Speaker 1: just in time for him to have you know, that
Speaker 1: one last match. And I and by the way, there
Speaker 1: is a little bit of news on that, and Wressell
Speaker 1: votes mentioned this tonight there was a news report and
Speaker 1: actually it's not even new. It was a news report
Speaker 1: from like two weeks ago. I guess that kind of
Speaker 1: flew under the radar, but it was a little TV
Speaker 1: report from one of the stations, I think in Boston,
Speaker 1: and they did a whole story on Sena and his father,
Speaker 1: interviewed his father, who's been you know, a wrestling manager
Speaker 1: and personality on the New England independencyet for a very
Speaker 1: long time, many many years. And at the very end
Speaker 1: of the report when they cut back to the anchors
Speaker 1: in studio, they mentioned that John Cena will be wrestling
Speaker 1: his final match at the TD Garden Arena in Boston
Speaker 1: in December. So for anybody wondering, you know, when and
Speaker 1: where are they going to do that last match? Boston?
Speaker 1: You know, obviously Boston for John Cena makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense. So I don't know if that's going to
Speaker 1: be a special I think it should be a special event,
Speaker 1: whether it's Peacock or Netflix, and they could even call it,
Speaker 1: you know, John Cena the final match or something, and
Speaker 1: they could have other matches on the show, but build
Speaker 1: an entire special around it. Like when he first announced this,
Speaker 1: I said, that's exactly what I would do. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: just have a Saturday Nights main event or one of
Speaker 1: my regular plees. I would build an entirely new event
Speaker 1: around just the fact that John Cena is wrestling his
Speaker 1: last match, and do that in December of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because there should be a
Speaker 1: Saturday Nights main event that month. This is bigger than that, though,
Speaker 1: But it is going to be in Boston. It is
Speaker 1: going to be at the TD Garden. So yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: JP says, like the Last Dance exactly, something very very
Speaker 1: similar to that. But it will be in Boston at
Speaker 1: the TD Garden arena. As far as what's next for
Speaker 1: Sena opponent wise, it could be truth. John Cena has
Speaker 1: been advertised for Saturday Nights main event on May twenty fourth.
Speaker 1: We know he will be on the show. That does
Speaker 1: not mean he is wrestling on the show. Jay Usso
Speaker 1: is defending the World Heavyweight title it was announced against
Speaker 1: Logan Paul on that show. They may well close the
Speaker 1: show with that. You know, if Seene is going to
Speaker 1: be in a segment, they could do that in the
Speaker 1: middle of the show. But if Seen is wrestling, then
Speaker 1: he's the main event. Well, who does you wrestle? You
Speaker 1: could easily do a rematch with Randy Orton. That's why
Speaker 1: I kept saying, like maybe their final match, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, do you think you don't think there is
Speaker 1: a pretty good chance they don't run this back one
Speaker 1: more time, possibly on that show at the end of
Speaker 1: the month. They could get one more John Seen or
Speaker 1: Randy Orton match if they wanted to. I don't know
Speaker 1: that it could be as good as the one they
Speaker 1: had tonight. That's the only thing. Despite the finish, the
Speaker 1: cheap finish as a match, I don't see them having
Speaker 1: a better match than the one they had at Backlash,
Speaker 1: So they might be better off going into Our Truth.
Speaker 1: I know it sounds completely ridiculous Our Truth getting a
Speaker 1: WWE championship match, Well, who says it has to be
Speaker 1: for the championship. Nobody says it has to be for
Speaker 1: the championship, But how do you not do that match now,
Speaker 1: especially in light of what he did to him. I
Speaker 1: guess at the press conference after the show, maybe that's
Speaker 1: the play. You know. One of the things I was
Speaker 1: kind of hoping for in this last Scena run is
Speaker 1: not only the big matches against Randy Orton and CM
Speaker 1: Punk and people like that, but like we get him
Speaker 1: in the ring with some either younger, newer faces or
Speaker 1: just some people that you would never expect him to
Speaker 1: be in the ring on, like a pl with. What's
Speaker 1: the harm in having John Cena do an odd SmackDown
Speaker 1: match or raw match here and there against somebody like
Speaker 1: a Truth who's been imitating him for years now and
Speaker 1: stealing all of his moves. What about one last match
Speaker 1: with John Cena and Seamus? What about one last match
Speaker 1: with John Cena and AJ Styles? What if he revisits
Speaker 1: matches with some of his old rivals. And I'm not
Speaker 1: talking programs, I'm just talking like one match, title match,
Speaker 1: non title match, doesn't really matter, right, I don't know
Speaker 1: that they're doing that. That was something I was kind
Speaker 1: of hoping for at the beginning of all this Sena
Speaker 1: in Truth easily could be a television match. I don't
Speaker 1: see why not. And you know what, especially if it
Speaker 1: was a title match, people would be behind Truth. Man.
Speaker 1: You think you think Sena in there with Orton, you know,
Speaker 1: because you know Orton obviously in Saint Louis was going
Speaker 1: to be cheered wildly. I think Truth is so beloved
Speaker 1: by this audience that whatever arena or city they do
Speaker 1: it in, you would have that entire crowd. It would
Speaker 1: almost be like the Santino Morella thing from the Elimination
Speaker 1: Chamber many years ago when it came down to him
Speaker 1: and Daniel Brian. I want to say maybe that was
Speaker 1: twenty eleven, twenty twelve, I think twenty twelve, and you
Speaker 1: had people hoping and believing that maybe Santino Morella would
Speaker 1: win the WWE Championship like they bought into it so much,
Speaker 1: and so maybe they could do something similar with Sina
Speaker 1: and Truth and really get the crowd into it. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's Saturday Night's main event. I guess we'll see. But
Speaker 1: the CM Punk match has to happen. You cannot turn
Speaker 1: John Cena back Babyface until we get that match with
Speaker 1: him in CM Punk. You can't do that not after
Speaker 1: the promo that Punk cut coming out of the elimination
Speaker 1: chamber where he went off on the Rock, remember that, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the goosebumps, the bald fraud and then he went in
Speaker 1: on Sena And you can't have him cut that promo
Speaker 1: and not give us the match, you know, before he
Speaker 1: goes back Babyface. So I look at that and go man,
Speaker 1: Sena and Punk, that should be the Summer Slim match.
Speaker 1: I know everybody's gonna be saying money in the bank.
Speaker 1: You know, Punk is all wrapped up right now with
Speaker 1: Seth Rollins. You know, we got to get that tag
Speaker 1: team match. We got to get Punk and Roman Reigns
Speaker 1: on the same side against Rollins and bron Breaker. It
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like we're headed for Sena and Punk for
Speaker 1: at least a few months. I see that as a
Speaker 1: Summer Slim match at MetLife Stadium. So truth, maybe not Truth,
Speaker 1: maybe a rematch with Orton. I don't really know that
Speaker 1: that's completely necessary, though, Cody. You want to save Cody
Speaker 1: for later because Cody needs to be the one to
Speaker 1: beat him. I'm sorry all the Cody haters or the
Speaker 1: people that just don't like Cody. You're not gonna want
Speaker 1: to hear that. But you can't have Johnsena beat Cody
Speaker 1: Roads or WrestleMania and not have Cody, who is the
Speaker 1: face of your company, he's the face of your franchise,
Speaker 1: and not have him be the one to come back
Speaker 1: and get that win back over John Cena. Otherwise, the
Speaker 1: decision for him to beat Cody at WrestleMania is just
Speaker 1: mind numbingly stupid. If it doesn't end with Cody getting
Speaker 1: his wind back and his belt back from John Cena
Speaker 1: and putting him in the dirt, that's how it has
Speaker 1: to go. But that that's not going to happen for
Speaker 1: a few months at least. That's why I said, Who's next? Right?
Speaker 1: How do they space this out? That's kind of how
Speaker 1: it's looking to me. Could do something with Truth, save
Speaker 1: the punk thing for Summer Slam. What you do with
Speaker 1: him at Money in the Bank, it's kind of up
Speaker 1: in the air. But the redemption arc is coming. We
Speaker 1: saw a little hint of it tonight. The redemption arc
Speaker 1: is coming. It's just a matter of when they decide
Speaker 1: to pull the trigger. Take a look at the Twitter
Speaker 1: poll find out what you guys thought of backlash seventy
Speaker 1: one point seven percent thumbs up, seventeen points seven percent
Speaker 1: thumbs in the middle, and ten point six percent thumbs down.
Speaker 1: With well over twenty two hundred votes in so far
Speaker 1: and counting, EA says do punk at money in the
Speaker 1: bank and Summer slam. I don't know, man. Money in
Speaker 1: the bank now is less than a month away, and
Speaker 1: punk Punk has other issues going on right now that
Speaker 1: would feel completely rushed if they did it at money
Speaker 1: in the bank. I don't think it's gonna work out
Speaker 1: for Money in the Bank doesn't feel that way to me.
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Speaker 1: and twenty two likes. That's what I like to see.
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Speaker 1: we can get to seven hundred. That's what I think. Hey,
Speaker 1: Lakers Pats, we'll start with you wanted to know would
Speaker 1: three hour Attitude era raws have worked as a fan?
Speaker 1: I would as a fan at the time, I would
Speaker 1: have loved it, But no, in the end, it would
Speaker 1: not have worked. It would have burned the audience out.
Speaker 1: You give them too much of a good thing, you
Speaker 1: will burn them out. And I do think that it
Speaker 1: would have actually ended up being a negative thing. I
Speaker 1: think initially though, Yeah, I mean, people would have been
Speaker 1: excited for an extra hour of raw every week, so
Speaker 1: you get three hours of crash TV instead of two.
Speaker 1: It's not sustainable. One of the things Back then, I
Speaker 1: guess I was. I guess I was just the right
Speaker 1: age at that time. Is that when those shows generally,
Speaker 1: when those shows were over, my attitude was shit, I
Speaker 1: can't wait until next week, Like he didn't want them
Speaker 1: to be over. So now you get people even more
Speaker 1: of it, and I feel like you're taking that away.
Speaker 1: You're gonna burn some people out three hours. It's just
Speaker 1: too much. Every week, it's too much. JS Warrior nineteen
Speaker 1: with a twenty dollars super chat. As a kid, I
Speaker 1: grew up watching WWE in two thousand and four. Randy
Speaker 1: Orton was my favorite, and he still is to this day.
Speaker 1: This match was an homage to their many matches over
Speaker 1: the years, and yes, I know, way too many, but
Speaker 1: I love this main event. Well yeah, I mean especially
Speaker 1: if you're if you were a fan of Johnson or
Speaker 1: Randy Orton feud. I mean, you have no reason not
Speaker 1: to love this main event. But even if you were
Speaker 1: sick to death of it, it's been what eight years.
Speaker 1: I think the last one before tonight that they had
Speaker 1: was a SmackDown match in twenty seventeen, so it's it's
Speaker 1: been a long time. And knowing it could be the
Speaker 1: last time, you kind of you might be a little
Speaker 1: more accepting of some of the stuff they did because
Speaker 1: they were trying to throw in a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: Was it an homage to their earlier matches? It may
Speaker 1: have been. I don't Again, I don't recall offhand where
Speaker 1: they did that AA into an RKO spot, but I'm
Speaker 1: almost positive that that was not the first time they've
Speaker 1: done it. Gary Kuschuck is with us. Main event was
Speaker 1: a masterclass, maybe their best match. Love the pivot to
Speaker 1: the second table spot. Take note, Moxley tell story all
Speaker 1: Hail Gunhar, thank you, Gary, Joseph Seena look painful. Russo
Speaker 1: booked that shit four out of ten, says Joseph Holiday
Speaker 1: one ninety seven high Solo. Cole was a heel tonight
Speaker 1: holding Gunther's legs so it was harder for him to
Speaker 1: kick out. Michael has been more heelish over the past
Speaker 1: few weeks, angering Gunther with the you tapped out comment. Well,
Speaker 1: Michael Cole would tell you that he's been there for
Speaker 1: twenty eight years and he can do whatever the fuck
Speaker 1: he wants. But yeah, Gunther did nothing wrong. So apparently
Speaker 1: Johnsen and Randy Orton did that spot through a table.
Speaker 1: Was it a pay per view match. I think maybe
Speaker 1: it was like a raw match. Again, they had so
Speaker 1: many matches. It's just it all blends together, it really does.
Speaker 1: It all blends together. Oscar Fierro Cruise, what a waste.
Speaker 1: The Scena Heel Turn has been an absentee champion with
Speaker 1: mid matches and mid promos. Oscar is no fan of
Speaker 1: the John Cena Heel Turn. Jay Rock my dog, ate
Speaker 1: all the titles out of the scrabble game. I took
Speaker 1: him to the vet. No word yet, thank you, Jay Rock.
Speaker 1: Dried Chicken. Currently watching New Japan Resurgency after watching Backlash.
Speaker 1: Triple H needs six matches in the card for Ple's
Speaker 1: not five, three from Raw and three from SmackDown. I agree,
Speaker 1: but again tonight, I think they wanted to make sure
Speaker 1: they got out of there by ten because they don't
Speaker 1: want to compete with themselves because of the UFC pay
Speaker 1: per view. So either you get five matches, many of
Speaker 1: which you know they have time to sort of breathe,
Speaker 1: or you throw an extra match in there and you
Speaker 1: end up shortening most of the matches on the show.
Speaker 1: So take your pick. But that's that's why we got
Speaker 1: what we got tonight, where it felt like it was
Speaker 1: kind of going by even quicker than some of these
Speaker 1: five match shows normally do. Joseph says, I want to
Speaker 1: make a prediction. Jacob fought too versus bron Breaker will
Speaker 1: be a WrestleMania main event in the future. Not much
Speaker 1: of a prediction. I think the answer is absolutely yes.
Speaker 1: And also, do you think Jeff Cobb will be one
Speaker 1: of the top stars in WWE in the future top stars? No,
Speaker 1: he will not be. They'll have a nice position on
Speaker 1: the card, he will not be a top star. Jonathan
Speaker 1: Bordeaux rejoice, we are free from the sina Orton rivalry.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't be so sure just yet. Let's see how Saturday
Speaker 1: Nights may have been plays out before we make that prognostication.
Speaker 1: Larry Jester, why couldn't the chickens start his car at
Speaker 1: Olive Garden? He had no key. I'll see myself out
Speaker 1: to watch what I missed while at work. I shall return.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we want you back after that, Joe,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll take a poll of the live
Speaker 1: chat to see what they think. Thank you. Larry Ryan says,
Speaker 1: well enough is enough and it's time for well enough
Speaker 1: is enough and it's time for a change. Thank you, Brian.
Speaker 1: That reminds me Owen Hart's birthday. I believe was was
Speaker 1: it earlier this week? I think May seventh? Owen was
Speaker 1: thirty four when he passed away, and that was in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine. How old would he have been? Doing
Speaker 1: math in my head, which is not good, not good?
Speaker 1: Ninety nine though, you know what I think he would
Speaker 1: have been. Wow, I think he would have been sixty.
Speaker 1: I think that might have been his sixtieth birthday. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. The antagonist. I know it's not much, but
Speaker 1: you're my WWE fodder since twenty seventeen. What's your favorite
Speaker 1: Seinfeld episode? Well, thank you for the four ninety nine antagonist.
Speaker 1: The contest is my favorite episode. Joseph says, do you
Speaker 1: remember the Daredevil movie from two thousand and three starring
Speaker 1: Ben Affleck as the Daredevil? Remember it? Yes? Did I
Speaker 1: see it? No? Zachary Black, it has been a while, sir,
Speaker 1: my work headphones broke in the worst way possible for
Speaker 1: the pay per view and the crowd. Here is a
Speaker 1: clean twenty for be the booker. Much love, Thank you,
Speaker 1: Zach Sorry about your headphones. Duff's VIDs I realize that
Speaker 1: trees have no teeth. They're all bark and no bite.
Speaker 1: The man himself always has one, always has one up
Speaker 1: his sleeve. Bass Bears Backlash twenty twenty three quarter really
Speaker 1: was special. Go back to Puerto Rico. I agree they
Speaker 1: should go back to Puerto Rico very soon. That crowd
Speaker 1: was awesome. Joseph says, what is your top ten favorite
Speaker 1: WCW themes? I don't know about ten, but sting Man
Speaker 1: called sting Man Called Sting is one of them. DDPS
Speaker 1: is a Nirvana knockoff is another nWo theme is on there.
Speaker 1: Chris Jericho had a god was it his first or
Speaker 1: second babyface theme? Like the lion Heart theme that he had.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed that. I think Rick Rude had a really
Speaker 1: good theme too when he was in WCW. I didn't
Speaker 1: like it as much as his WWF one, though, but
Speaker 1: I'd put that one on there. I think those are
Speaker 1: some good choices. Oh, wolf Pack, Yeah, of course, Wolfpack
Speaker 1: NW a wolf back. David Thirring with the twenty one
Speaker 1: dollars super show, Don't you start with the American Males?
Speaker 1: Don't you start? Thumbs up? Show? Last night at h
Speaker 1: O J solo monster. Gotta love moments like the one
Speaker 1: Indie Hartwell had and she won the women's title. For
Speaker 1: what it's worth, Sena attacked our Truth on the post
Speaker 1: show and put him through the table another table bump. Huh.
Speaker 1: I'll have to go back and watch that after. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a very cool moment last night. I was
Speaker 1: able to make the announcement that the right before the
Speaker 1: match that the Women's Championship would be decided in that match,
Speaker 1: and then to be able to present Indie with the
Speaker 1: belt when the match was over and kind of be
Speaker 1: a you know, just be in the ring for that
Speaker 1: moment and to see, you know how cool it was
Speaker 1: and what it meant for her. That was a very
Speaker 1: cool moment last night. Thank you. David Holliday says, what
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Charlotte winning the Women's US title? Up,
Speaker 1: they'll keep her away from the Women's WWE title picture
Speaker 1: and she'll elevate the belt. I mean, if they come
Speaker 1: up with a good story for it. I don't know
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do with her right now. It all
Speaker 1: depends on the story. I'm not gonna rule it out
Speaker 1: and be kind of like Becky holding the Intercontinental Title, right,
Speaker 1: it's the same concept. The thing is, I wouldn't do
Speaker 1: it at the same time, though, So if you're gonna
Speaker 1: have someone like Becky hold the IC, I don't want
Speaker 1: Charlotte holding the US on SmackDown like you do one
Speaker 1: of the other, but don't do them at the same time.
Speaker 1: Zachary Black, did Pat get sent off in a gurney today?
Speaker 1: Jerry Lawler loves gunhar No. Not only did Pat not
Speaker 1: get sent out on a gurney, he was right back
Speaker 1: up on his feet when the match was over. He
Speaker 1: did not get murdered. Ross Lom and the female RAF
Speaker 1: trying to pull Becky off Lyra had me eye rolling.
Speaker 1: I show more effort and strength when booking my prostate
Speaker 1: checkup TMI, my friend TMI egghead show. John just gave
Speaker 1: our truth an AA through the table during the post
Speaker 1: show media scrum. There's your Saturday Night's main event match.
Speaker 1: That's what it sounds like. I mean, as soon as
Speaker 1: they announced Sena for that show, I figured, you know,
Speaker 1: he's got to be wrestling on that show, and you
Speaker 1: could do a rematch with Randy Orton. But they hype
Speaker 1: this one up so much as the last time I
Speaker 1: mean it would just it would feel fucked up for
Speaker 1: them to immediately go back on that fucked up fuck
Speaker 1: that tree. It would feel fucked up for them to
Speaker 1: immediately go right back to it. And seeing it in
Speaker 1: truth is a match that works better as a TV
Speaker 1: match anyway, So I have no problem with that. Bace Beers,
Speaker 1: thank you for the two el mas. Say hey, Commissioner,
Speaker 1: can we get an hog show in Puerto Rico someday?
Speaker 1: Much love? Hey, We're going to be expanding to some
Speaker 1: different places, so never say never. All things are on
Speaker 1: the table right now. We got some fun announcements coming
Speaker 1: in the months ahead, so stay tuned. Going to be
Speaker 1: in Texas actually in a couple of months. We got
Speaker 1: presence now in Orlando with a new school down there.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we're going to be running there soon. So
Speaker 1: Bobby's World with the twenty one missed most of the
Speaker 1: pla due to my son's college graduation dinner Mechanical Engineering.
Speaker 1: He says, congrats to Christian at Texas Roadhouse. It was
Speaker 1: also a Christian whose name I failed to mention when
Speaker 1: I shouted out his birthday eight weeks ago. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: sure that Christian maybe let you know about that may
Speaker 1: have read you the Riot Act. I would have. If
Speaker 1: you forgot my name, forgot to mention my name, I
Speaker 1: would have. But congrats to Christian. That's very cool. Texas Roadhouse.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever eaten there before. I don't
Speaker 1: think so. Is Texas Roadhouse just exclusive to Texas or
Speaker 1: is it a change? Do they have that elsewhere? The
Speaker 1: Tonga loa hater is with us, at least Toangala wasn't there.
Speaker 1: He sucks fuck him, he says, my God Toanga loa
Speaker 1: super fan is not gonna be happy about this. Libido
Speaker 1: Bell the ten dollars super chat introducing my nephew. My
Speaker 1: nephews six and eight years old to wrestling has been
Speaker 1: lots of fun. Been playing the two K series and
Speaker 1: educating them of different promotions and eras while still keeping
Speaker 1: kfab and keeping tradition. That is cool. I always figured,
Speaker 1: like if I had a like if I had a son,
Speaker 1: what I might do. So I'm a little sick in
Speaker 1: the head here is just like play old wrestling videos
Speaker 1: like try to do it in sequential order as if
Speaker 1: he was watching wrestling for the first time, but like
Speaker 1: from the eighties, like start them out with that, you know.
Speaker 1: But I guess that would be wrong. You know, That'd
Speaker 1: be like if I were growing up as a wrestling
Speaker 1: fan of my dad would only allow me to watch
Speaker 1: tapes of like fucking Gorgeous George or something. You know.
Speaker 1: But I still say eighties wrestling is the best wrestling.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm a little biased in that, but that's how
Speaker 1: I feel. Anthony ref bumps are overdone as fuck. Need
Speaker 1: a break from that. It does make the referees just
Speaker 1: look completely idiotic. Is it possible a wrestler? Is it
Speaker 1: possible a wrestler has chemistry with any chemistry with anyone? Yes,
Speaker 1: some have chemistry, some don't. Some work well together, some don't. Now,
Speaker 1: what is your dream commentary team? We already had it.
Speaker 1: It was Guerrilla Monson and Bobby the Brain Heenan. We
Speaker 1: were living the dream there for a while. Bace Bears,
Speaker 1: thank you for the two Duff's VIDs. What do you
Speaker 1: call vegetarian lesbians? A scissor salad? You suck? Oh Man?
Speaker 1: Tonga loa super fan speak of the devil. Look at this.
Speaker 1: I can't believe Tongala didn't return tonight in the main event.
Speaker 1: Alla Allah Austin at Backlash two thousand. Such a perfect
Speaker 1: opportunity missed, the reaction to his return would have eclipsed
Speaker 1: Austin's in two thousand. It would have be clipped. Randy
Speaker 1: Orton tonight in Saint Louis, he says, Jacob against Jeff
Speaker 1: Cobb is gonna be insane when Fa Tu finally turns
Speaker 1: on the bloodline or they turn on him. Obvious smoking
Speaker 1: mirrors for Sina in the main event. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that's how it has to be at this point. You
Speaker 1: get what you get, and you gotta kind of work
Speaker 1: around his limitations. And I think they did the best
Speaker 1: they could with the tools that they had in their toolbox.
Speaker 1: Slinko says, do you think Fa Tu could end up
Speaker 1: being betrayed by Solo and Cobb? This could lead to
Speaker 1: Jeff Cobb versus Fa Tu and then Solo against Fa Tu?
Speaker 1: Great plee buzzed cheers. Yeah, this would have been a
Speaker 1: good pl to watch. Buzzed. Actually they all would be probably,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I mean it could go either way. I mean,
Speaker 1: it could be fa To being excommunicated, It could be
Speaker 1: Fa Tou breaking away on his own and then they attack.
Speaker 1: I mean, it works either way, but I hope that
Speaker 1: we do get Cobb and Fatu at some point. I'm
Speaker 1: sure we will, and I think it will be a
Speaker 1: banger of a match. It's gonna be good. Hey, Kate,
Speaker 1: thank you for the ten. Kate love just dropping some love,
Speaker 1: no message. We hit our secondary goal tonight. By the way,
Speaker 1: thank you for that ten out of ten, So that
Speaker 1: means you're getting to be the bookers tonight. We'll make
Speaker 1: up for the one we didn't have last night because
Speaker 1: I wasn't here for SmackDown Duff's VIDs. What does a
Speaker 1: bilingual cat say? Wolf? Thank you Duffs John with a ten.
Speaker 1: Imagine you get front row tickets to the first AWWWE crossover.
Speaker 1: The catch every car you get into for five years
Speaker 1: has no AC The windows don't roll down, but your
Speaker 1: front windshield does. Would you do it? No? Why would
Speaker 1: I do that. I'll just watch the show from home
Speaker 1: and drive my car exactly the way it is now.
Speaker 1: Thank you, John. Bobby's World with a twenty dollars super chap.
Speaker 1: Benjamin Shelton, What an idiot Hogan is? Just rewatch Hogan
Speaker 1: and Rock and notice Hogan was selling his ribs a lot.
Speaker 1: Think Hogan tried the same thing on Rock that he
Speaker 1: did on Undertaker. If so, think Taker smart and Rock
Speaker 1: up No, As I recall, I think Hogan had a
Speaker 1: house show match with Rakishi right before that and claimed
Speaker 1: that he hurt his ribs in the match with Rakishi.
Speaker 1: And it's like, I want to believe him, but I
Speaker 1: don't believe anything he says. He may well have made
Speaker 1: that entire thing up just to make himself look more like, Oh,
Speaker 1: he overcame this injury that he had, right or maybe
Speaker 1: when he showed up at WrestleMania, if he didn't like
Speaker 1: what he was being told far as what the plan
Speaker 1: was for the match, maybe he can use the injury
Speaker 1: as an excuse to back out of it. Like that's
Speaker 1: the first thing I think of when I think of Hogan.
Speaker 1: So I don't trust him. I don't trust him. That's
Speaker 1: the problem, you know, when you just tell so many lies,
Speaker 1: it just casts doubt on everything that you say. Oh,
Speaker 1: you got me, brother, you got me, brother. Aaron Tucker,
Speaker 1: what do Solom monster subs watch when they want to
Speaker 1: work out? Buff VIDs? Dried Chicken says Becky Lynch is
Speaker 1: going to make lyra valcarri A bleed. I love lyra
Speaker 1: but she needs dirt, mud and blood on her, like
Speaker 1: a polish shoe. Dirty it.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think I think he meant polish. I think
Speaker 2: he meant polished shoe.
Speaker 1: My god, dude, I just I read it exactly the
Speaker 1: way it was written. I'm not even sure. I'm not
Speaker 1: even sure what that is, like, what is a what
Speaker 1: is a polish shoe? Anyway, I'm creating my own jokes here.
Speaker 1: Thank you dried chicken. Yes, I realize what he said now,
Speaker 1: but the way it was written. Let's move on Duff's VIDs.
Speaker 1: Why did pac Man call? Or what did pac Man?
Speaker 1: What did pac Man call his chocolate factory? Willie Wonka
Speaker 1: Wonka Wonka Man? Duffs BID's always going in the dirt,
Speaker 1: always going to the gutter, Craig. Craig McLaughlan is with us,
Speaker 1: and Craig says, seven out of ten show better than
Speaker 1: I expected. I guess I can be entertained by about
Speaker 1: anything that gets my mind off the pain of a
Speaker 1: toothache or absess ouh. Yeah, that's that's not good. Catch
Speaker 1: the rest of your show tomorrow, My best to you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Craig. Well, hopefully that will pass quickly because
Speaker 1: that is not fun. Shout out to uh loves Cats
Speaker 1: in the chat, thank you. Moore says, did you watch
Speaker 1: Maven's new aw video? Was a fun watch. I didn't
Speaker 1: see the whole video. I did see the one. I
Speaker 1: saw one clip of him talking to Tony Kahan and
Speaker 1: then there was a clip of him interacting with Daniel Garcia.
Speaker 1: But I've just there's a lot I have to catch
Speaker 1: up on from the last few days. I've been very,
Speaker 1: very busy, Devin says, buy or sell postmatch interviews or
Speaker 1: post show media scrums, postmatch interviews, postmatch interviews, postmatch interviews,
Speaker 1: postmatch interviews. Ritchie, did you know John Cena attacked our
Speaker 1: truth after Backlash? I do now stuff's VIDs? What did
Speaker 1: tennessee the same thing as Arkansas? What did tennessee the
Speaker 1: same thing as our Uh? Not your best work, Holliday says, predicting,
Speaker 1: Drew wins Money in the Bank and Cody beat Sena
Speaker 1: at SummerSlam, then Drew cashes in on Cody, setting up
Speaker 1: a feud in late twenty twenty five, Orton costs Cody
Speaker 1: equals WrestleMania feud. Well, it's got to be one. Or
Speaker 1: the other. But then why would Orton cost Cody. It's
Speaker 1: got to be a reason. There's got to be an explanation.
Speaker 1: They have to do something to set that up. But
Speaker 1: if you can tell that story, that's a story I
Speaker 1: would like to see play out. Bass Viera says, no fiend, no,
Speaker 1: no fiend tonight. That's good. Also, Randy hit like ten
Speaker 1: finishers two fus include Yeah he did. He hit not
Speaker 1: only his own finisher, but he hit the other guy's
Speaker 1: finished two. Oh I see okay, Tennis sees what arcan saw.
Speaker 1: Oh god, how did I not get that one? I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe because I'm running on like three and
Speaker 1: a half hours sleep for the last two days. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's why BW you says Sena aaid our truth at
Speaker 1: the press conference tonight. So I'm told Dried Chicken, John
Speaker 1: Cena's heel character gives off Anakin Skywalker vibes during his run.
Speaker 1: King Nator, thank you for the twenty five much appreciated
Speaker 1: Dried Chicken. Let me tell you how John Cena can
Speaker 1: get more heat. Brother John Cena goes after Joe Hendry
Speaker 1: and beats him up so badly, anger the wrestling community
Speaker 1: more base Beers is Jericho top fifty of all time.
Speaker 1: Everyone's list is going to be different, But yes, I
Speaker 1: believe he is. Jeremy says, do you think punk ever
Speaker 1: goes back to this? Fire burns? No, Chris lu Deck
Speaker 1: with the twelve The Darede movie with Ben Affleck was awful,
Speaker 1: but the Daredevil series with Charlie Cox is goat. Also,
Speaker 1: Buyer Sell wasn't Oh god, the guy who played Shane
Speaker 1: on The Walking Dead, Kurt Angle's brother in law. Fuck,
Speaker 1: his name just popped out of my head. Didn't he
Speaker 1: play Punisher in either a movie or a TV series?
Speaker 1: I thought he did. Chris though, says also Buyer Sell
Speaker 1: in your House, Canadian Stampede or Money in the Bank
Speaker 1: twenty eleven. Those are two of the best shows that
Speaker 1: the company has ever done. So You've put me in
Speaker 1: a very difficult position here, but I have to go, oh, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know that that's tough. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go Money in the Bank. I'll go Money in the
Speaker 1: Bank twenty eleven, two great shows though John Burnhal, thank you, Yes,
Speaker 1: isn't John Burnhal is the Punisher? I thought Dark Effect
Speaker 1: with twenty with Jeff Cobb debuting tonight and being a
Speaker 1: bit older. What other wrestlers who have gotten late starts
Speaker 1: their career in WWE do you think have seen the
Speaker 1: most success. For me, it's names like Batista and DDP
Speaker 1: in WCW DDP and WCW. For sure, Batista would have
Speaker 1: been my pick. I think Batista was like forty right
Speaker 1: when he really I think when he won his first
Speaker 1: world title he may have been forty, So I mean
Speaker 1: he would have been He would have been my first
Speaker 1: pick in terms of like major success. Oh man, I
Speaker 1: don't know. All the guys I'm thinking of right now
Speaker 1: when they first had major success were not that old.
Speaker 1: They were still wrestling when they were very old, but
Speaker 1: they were not that old initially, So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'd have to think about that. Roderick says, as thought,
Speaker 1: how old was Yeah, I guess AJ when AJ came
Speaker 1: to the company, how old was He's already been there
Speaker 1: for nine years, so I mean when AJ got there,
Speaker 1: was he was he that old? I mean, I maybe
Speaker 1: I didn't really look at him as an old man.
Speaker 1: Say the same thing about Samoa Joe. I guess, but
Speaker 1: Joe never attained that level of success that I feel
Speaker 1: he should have had there number one almost, Sapien says,
Speaker 1: I predict Omas will show up and save Jacob Faught
Speaker 1: from solo and Jeff Cobb. Also, did you hear about
Speaker 1: the two guys who stole a calendar? They both got
Speaker 1: six months. It's pretty good. That's pretty good, David, thank
Speaker 1: you for the twenty David, theoring, always coming in with
Speaker 1: the support. Aj was thirty nine in twenty sixteen. See
Speaker 1: he's almost. He's fifty in a year. There's no way.
Speaker 1: La Knights of course, La Knight. Yeah, Mattie says La Knight.
Speaker 1: That's a good one. Uh. Dried Chicken, Alexa Bliss needs
Speaker 1: to spread dark magic on Charlotte, take her to the
Speaker 1: Hardy Compound and baptize her into the Lake of Reincarnation.
Speaker 1: She goes into the lake as Charlotte Flair. She comes
Speaker 1: out of the lake as Medusa. I like it, dried Chicken,
Speaker 1: says hail Charlotte Flair, the wicked queen of nature. I
Speaker 1: like her going into the lake better and then coming
Speaker 1: out his Medusa. Colin, see Sola master, can you give
Speaker 1: me a quick birthday shout out and have a great night.
Speaker 1: Colin with sixteen months of channel membership. Happy birthday, Colin.
Speaker 1: I don't know how old you are, but you're old
Speaker 1: enough to be a channel member. Thank you, Colin. Jeremy
Speaker 1: rose Patch should have gotten destroyed by Gunther. Him hulking
Speaker 1: up and lasting twenty minutes was dumb to me. Well
Speaker 1: it was fourteen minutes, but yes, it should not have
Speaker 1: gone that long. Alexis Graham got me hooked on your
Speaker 1: live streams. Lol. Yeah, shout out to Graham, mister Murmina, Hey, Alexis,
Speaker 1: thank you. I'm glad. I'm glad he got you hooked
Speaker 1: on my podcast. Good. Yeah. How many people listen to
Speaker 1: my podcasts and their significant other is not hooked on
Speaker 1: rest podcasts? They probably hate my guts. Yuri says random thought,
Speaker 1: is both Bronson and Cobb bloodline tied or does that
Speaker 1: lead to something when Bronson is back? Feel like Bronson
Speaker 1: would have that spot if he was not hurt. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the plan was for Bronson read but
Speaker 1: him those few weeks that he was there with the bloodline,
Speaker 1: it just felt right, you know, it felt like a
Speaker 1: good fit. So I don't know if they would have
Speaker 1: kept him in there or not a few more months
Speaker 1: he's not. I haven't heard anything about him being medically
Speaker 1: cleared anytime yet. I'm hoping that. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: even know if he'll be back in time for Summer Slam. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I mean, that was a pretty gnarly injury, but it
Speaker 1: would be nice to get him back by like Midsummer.
Speaker 1: See where he or even which roster he ends up on.
Speaker 1: EJ says who felt more out of place in WCW
Speaker 1: mean Gene or Bob. I feel like Jeane should have
Speaker 1: been a WWE lifer, but I can't picture him during
Speaker 1: the Attitude era. Honestly, I felt like they were both
Speaker 1: out of place, but more so heenid like of the two.
Speaker 1: It was definitely heend. The heena that we got in
Speaker 1: WCW was nothing like the heena we got in WWE.
Speaker 1: Uh the Winston slip. What's your favorite SmackDown moment and
Speaker 1: match moment? Is probably the first ring collapse with Brock
Speaker 1: and Big Show. As far as match, I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of great SmackDown matches over the years,
Speaker 1: you know, Angle, Angle and Brock, and that Iron Man
Speaker 1: match is certainly one of them. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that was the best, but moment I have to go
Speaker 1: with that first ring collab. I mean, it's been done
Speaker 1: multiple times since then, but that really was a holy
Speaker 1: shit moment, the first time that ever happened. BW are
Speaker 1: we getting two Dark Side of the Ring reviews this Sunday?
Speaker 1: You're getting no Dark Side of the Ring reviews this
Speaker 1: Sunday because I have not had time to put any
Speaker 1: notes together. I was out of town. I was just
Speaker 1: ridiculously busy. I've watched, I'm all caught up on the episodes.
Speaker 1: But I will do a review for the Eddie Gilbert one.
Speaker 1: I'll do one for I mean, how could I not
Speaker 1: do one for Billy Jack Haynes. I've talked about him before.
Speaker 1: He's quite the character. But I don't know when they'll
Speaker 1: probably my hope is that, you know, they'll go up me,
Speaker 1: even on YouTube first, you know, even if I include
Speaker 1: them in the show after the fact. But unfortunately there
Speaker 1: will be none tomorrow. Bace Beer is Nightmare on Elm
Speaker 1: Street or Friday the thirteenth. Friday the thirteenth. I've seen
Speaker 1: some of the Freddy movies, but I was never a
Speaker 1: Freddie guy. I was a Jason guy. When I saw Halloween.
Speaker 1: Then for the first time, I became a Michael guy.
Speaker 1: So for me it's Michael and then Jason John. You
Speaker 1: get to witness sting against the Undertaker, both in their prime.
Speaker 1: The catch for two years, every trash can in your
Speaker 1: home fills up seventy five percent faster than usual. What
Speaker 1: is what these scenarios here? Again, the answer is no.
Speaker 1: I was not one of those people that was dying
Speaker 1: to cease thing in the Undertaker. It would have been
Speaker 1: a cool match with them in their prime, but not
Speaker 1: if I have to buy more garbage bags. Fuck that
Speaker 1: Bace Bear as Kevin Hart should be in Travis's place,
Speaker 1: Rock's BFF. Yeah, but then everything would be turned into comedy.
Speaker 1: It just becomes It just becomes a joke at that point.
Speaker 1: And favorite raw and SmackDown theme songs the original ones,
Speaker 1: the original ones, the ones that really hadn't no lyrics
Speaker 1: at all, Navy, was there any video game that made
Speaker 1: you melt down and slam your controller on the floor.
Speaker 1: Mine was Tecmo World Wrestling on the NES Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean there were several games. It wasn't any one game.
Speaker 1: When things didn't go my way, I could give violets
Speaker 1: why I don't really play games as much anymore. I
Speaker 1: didn't take it. Well, what can I say? Thank you
Speaker 1: for the messages, some good stuff in there. We are
Speaker 1: currently up to seven hundred and twenty two likes. That's
Speaker 1: what I like to see. You see what I did there.
Speaker 1: Thank you for the likes and the super chats. Now
Speaker 1: my reward to you is not one, but two installments
Speaker 1: of be the Book or bass Beer says Mortal Kombat
Speaker 1: or Street Fighter Mortal. Ladies and gentlemen, it is now
Speaker 1: time to be the booker. All right, we get two
Speaker 1: rounds make up for the one we didn't get last night.
Speaker 1: If you're new here, it's a little fun thing we
Speaker 1: do here at the end of these streams, when we
Speaker 1: hit certain targets, certain goals. I've put together something here.
Speaker 1: It's a randomizer. Tons of names, male female tag teams.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we do stipulations. So here, for example, we have
Speaker 1: Kenny Omega and Kota Ibushi. Oh man, this is this
Speaker 1: is like prime Ibushi here I miss this Coda Ibushi
Speaker 1: code Ibushi and Kenny Omega as tag team partners. That's
Speaker 1: a hell of a team right there, taking on Edge
Speaker 1: and Christian Holy shit, you know, what's wild about that?
Speaker 1: That is a match that we very well could get
Speaker 1: in aw and it would not be nearly as good
Speaker 1: as it would have been if both these teams were
Speaker 1: in their physical primes. Imagine Prime Edge and Christian against
Speaker 1: Prime Kenny and Coda. What a fucking amazing match that
Speaker 1: would have been. Man super bell yea, I have to
Speaker 1: have like a super bell button that just blows everybody's
Speaker 1: eardrums out. All right, women's match, Now we begin with Lana.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, god, I don't think it's possible for
Speaker 1: me to have booked a worst match if like usually
Speaker 1: it's one or the other, but to get them both,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, uh Lana and Rosa Mendez. I mean
Speaker 1: that that is just I don't even I'm speechless, Like
Speaker 1: I don't know what that would look like. I don't
Speaker 1: know what that is. Super Buzzer. I have to have
Speaker 1: a buzzer. I have to have a I have to
Speaker 1: have an actual buzzer here. I need a super buzzer.
Speaker 1: I need a super bell and a super buzzer. And
Speaker 1: now we move on to our main event. We try
Speaker 1: to cleanse the palate from that awful match. Live Morgan
Speaker 1: gives you her room key. Now, pick a stipulation. I
Speaker 1: didn't see her at my hotel last night, but they
Speaker 1: had a live band in the lobby playing music when
Speaker 1: I got back from the show, blasting away into the
Speaker 1: wee hours of the night. Oh, I guess we have
Speaker 1: to pick a stipulation then for our main event. Those
Speaker 1: are the rules. Our main event is going to be
Speaker 1: an I quit match. As we see in the background
Speaker 1: of this image here John Cena against Randy Orton. How
Speaker 1: about that very appropriate? That's just how many matches they've had.
Speaker 1: It's not like, oh my god, you landed on an
Speaker 1: image of John Cena and Randy Orton. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: they've had that many matches. It's not that rare, all right,
Speaker 1: But it's going to be an equip match. Jay Lethal,
Speaker 1: the former Ring of Honor world champion, is in our
Speaker 1: main event and he is going to be doing battle
Speaker 1: with who with Seth Rollins in an I quit match?
Speaker 1: Basically Tyler Black here against Jay Lethal. That could have
Speaker 1: been a Ring of Honor made event. Maybe it was.
Speaker 1: Did they overlap?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: I don't know now if they did, I think they
Speaker 1: did in Ring of Honor. I don't know, but as
Speaker 1: I said, you get two rounds, would be the booker.
Speaker 1: So now we get to do it all over again,
Speaker 1: but this time every match is going to have a stipulation.
Speaker 1: That would be good, right, That would be a good match,
Speaker 1: not Lana and Rosa Mendez, Seth Rollins and jay leth Okay.
Speaker 1: So our first match is going to be a tag
Speaker 1: team barbed wire steel cage match, barb weier steel cage match.
Speaker 1: That's what we are heading into here with Kevin Owens
Speaker 1: and Sammy Zain as one team. Then they had barbed
Speaker 1: weyer in their last match against each other, Kevin Owens
Speaker 1: and Sammy's Ain tag team steel cage barbed weier match
Speaker 1: against the Toxic Turtles. Do not adjust your screens. This
Speaker 1: was a real team, not for very long, but this
Speaker 1: was a real team at one point in WWE. I
Speaker 1: believe Gilberg is under one of those costumes. And the
Speaker 1: reason I gave this the bell is because if you
Speaker 1: say that you would not pay money to see Kevin
Speaker 1: Owens and Sammy z Ain wrestle a couple of teenage
Speaker 1: mutant ninja turtle knocks Goffs in a steel cage, barbed
Speaker 1: wire match. I don't believe you you're lying to me
Speaker 1: that would be a great match. You mean to tell
Speaker 1: me you wouldn't want to see these turtles sliced and diced.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't be sports entertained by that. Our women's match
Speaker 1: is going to be an APA invitation. We just had
Speaker 1: one of these last week and APA Invitational, although I
Speaker 1: don't think we've ever had a women's APA Invitational, so
Speaker 1: this is a little bit different. As long as we
Speaker 1: know a Lanza Lana and Rosa Mendez again, I think
Speaker 1: we'll be okay. Willow Nightingale, see now, I think Willow
Speaker 1: would actually do very well. She had that match was
Speaker 1: it all out last year with Chris Statlander? What was
Speaker 1: the stipulation? Again? They beat the hell out of each other.
Speaker 1: Willo would do very well in an APA invitational, and
Speaker 1: she will be taking on Natalia. I think they would.
Speaker 1: I think they would do well. So I'll have to
Speaker 1: go back and see the match that Natty had with
Speaker 1: with me you in uh blood Sport. And now our
Speaker 1: co main event of the evening, this is what we
Speaker 1: will end on. We have to end on a high
Speaker 1: note with this main event, and it's going to be
Speaker 1: another Okay, we can't do that. Now we're not we're not.
Speaker 1: We're not doing the same stipulation in the same round
Speaker 1: of be the booker can't do that, But maybe we
Speaker 1: should have, because now we have landed on I for
Speaker 1: an eye. And now I regret that we did not
Speaker 1: go with the same stipulation. But that's what happens sometimes
Speaker 1: Kurt Angle in one half of our eye for an
Speaker 1: eye main event. Now this I like Kurt Angle. He
Speaker 1: might lose an eye. That's why she said, you're gonna
Speaker 1: lose an eye with that thing. Put that thing away,
Speaker 1: Kurt Angle. I guess the guess the British bull I
Speaker 1: love this image, the British bulldog Davy boy Smith I
Speaker 1: for an eye. What is that face that he is
Speaker 1: making in this image? I don't know. Then you got
Speaker 1: poor Andre could barely move. You see Andre in the
Speaker 1: background there with his cane. This had to be ninety
Speaker 1: one day. Andre was. He was not in good shape.
Speaker 1: But there you have it. Two rounds to be the booker. Oh,
Speaker 1: clean sweep. You're right now, you're absolutely right. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: How did I not realize that we had we had
Speaker 1: a clean hold. On a second, I stand corrected, We
Speaker 1: had a clean sweep. And so therefore we have to
Speaker 1: play the anthem thank you for reminding me. Almost you
Speaker 1: almost let me forget. You know, they they happen so
Speaker 1: rarely that I have to make sure I play the
Speaker 1: sound or else it doesn't count. We have Duff's VIDs
Speaker 1: says which state has the most streets? Rhode Island? Very good, Yuri,
Speaker 1: Kenny and Coda against E and c best random matchup
Speaker 1: in a while. It is quite great, isn't it. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just one of those matches that if you take
Speaker 1: from one generation and then you blend it with another,
Speaker 1: what kind of like fantasy matchups could you come up with?
Speaker 1: That one would have to be on there. Duff'svids Sundays
Speaker 1: are a little sad at the end, but the day
Speaker 1: before is a sadder day. Cameron Spencer, I've been meaning
Speaker 1: to ask you, what are your three favorite great college matches. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll work on that, Cameron, and I'll get back to you.
Speaker 1: Bass Bears says Hell Raiser or Final Destination, Final Destination.
Speaker 1: It's never really a pinhead guy. I know a few pinheads,
Speaker 1: but not really a pinhead guy. Isn't there a new final?
Speaker 1: I think I just saw commercial for a new final destination?
Speaker 1: How many movies? I mean, I know there have been
Speaker 1: at least ten Saw movies, maybe eleven, but like, how
Speaker 1: many final destinations have there been? My god, they've got
Speaker 1: to be up in the double digits by this point.
Speaker 1: At Lana and the Rosa Mendez match was like a
Speaker 1: final destination. That should have been the stipulation for that match.
Speaker 1: Final destination. But you can't avoid it. You can't avoid fate.
Speaker 1: You just have to learn to accept it. Six of them,
Speaker 1: there have been six or seven final destination movies, all right,
Speaker 1: So they'll hit ten at some point. Guarantee they'll hit ten.
Speaker 1: It's called bloodlines, right, Final destination. Bloodlines. It's like the
Speaker 1: blood Line. It will never end. It just goes on
Speaker 1: and on and on. Thank you guys for a great stream.
Speaker 1: Here tonight we got power spying games coming in with
Speaker 1: one last super check. You giving Ko and Sammy against
Speaker 1: the Turtles The Bell is like when you gave Booker
Speaker 1: t and Big Money Meltzer the Bell. I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: have no recollection of that. I have no recollection of that.
Speaker 1: And bass Beers. Kurt Angle had three eyes and then
Speaker 1: he has three I emojis. Santiago with the four ninety
Speaker 1: nine I'm looking forward to the short Truth program. Seena
Speaker 1: was actually the reason Truth lost his mind in twenty eleven.
Speaker 1: Will this lead to Truth regaining his sanity? Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: He came out there. They had that magic Capital punishment.
Speaker 1: Wasn't it that one pay per view they did well? Look,
Speaker 1: I mean, if they're going to do it, I would
Speaker 1: love to have some callbacks. But we'll see. They're doing
Speaker 1: it on Saturday Night's main event. It's coming up in
Speaker 1: a few weeks, and I don't know is Sena scheduled
Speaker 1: for any dates between now and then? Has he? I mean,
Speaker 1: I know there were dates that came out a while ago.
Speaker 1: I don't remember how many, if any dates between Backlash
Speaker 1: and Saturday Night's main event he scheduled for. So I
Speaker 1: don't know how many times we're even going to get
Speaker 1: him on TV between now and then. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Mattie says solo. How long or how did it feel
Speaker 1: to raise Indy's arm up when she won? It felt
Speaker 1: great because it was a great moment for her to
Speaker 1: be crowned champion on a night where nobody was expecting it.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden we have a brand new women's champion.
Speaker 1: She was all smiles. It was very happy for her.
Speaker 1: It was a great moment. You can watch it on
Speaker 1: Trailler TV plus her and Yamasha. I had a ringside
Speaker 1: seat for it because after I came out to make
Speaker 1: the announcement about the title being vacated, I sat at ringside.
Speaker 1: I wanted a ringside seat with that belt and watch
Speaker 1: the match and every kick. Mean me, you those kicks
Speaker 1: are deadly. That she throws every kick, every strike, every forearm.
Speaker 1: I could hear it so really good stuff. I'm going
Speaker 1: to read you a Bender mc simpson super chat that
Speaker 1: I just noticed. Here's some coin for a super bell.
Speaker 1: Now I want to see Edgend, Christian Coda and Kenny badly. Thanks. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you could do it in the video game.
Speaker 1: Now you're probably booking in there. This is why we
Speaker 1: do be the booker. I get you thinking about matches
Speaker 1: that you probably never even thought of. That's the beauty
Speaker 1: of it. Tomorrow is episode nine to twelve, the Mother's
Speaker 1: Day edition of the sound Off. Be talking more Backlash
Speaker 1: and the Backlash fallout, and then some other news and notes.
Speaker 1: I'm going to do what I can do. There's some
Speaker 1: stuff like the dark side of the Ring stuff that's
Speaker 1: going to have to wait. I just didn't have time
Speaker 1: this week to dive into it the way I wanted to,
Speaker 1: but that's how it goes sometimes. But yes, there will
Speaker 1: be a new podcast tomorrow, so keep an eye out
Speaker 1: for that. Happy Early Mother's Day to all the moms
Speaker 1: out there celebrating, I hope you enjoy your day. Thank
Speaker 1: you for spending your time with me here for this
Speaker 1: backlash review, and I will see you back here live
Speaker 1: on Monday night for the Raw Post show and tomorrow
Speaker 1: for episode nine to twelve of the sound Off. Until then,
Speaker 1: take care, guys,