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<v Speaker 1>Dripping like Michael Phelps a lot of lines.

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<v Speaker 2>The track is called Drip.

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<v Speaker 1>The voice behind it, the creator behind it, the artist

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<v Speaker 1>behind it is actor musician Michael V.

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<v Speaker 2>Epps aka Mikey. I think that dropped it in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called Drip, and I'm pleased to have Michael VPPs

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<v Speaker 1>on this program, primarily to talk about the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the highly acclaimed series The Shy, where he played Jake Taylor.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to his music and what's next for him

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<v Speaker 1>in a moment, but before I get to the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with Michael V. Epps, here is some sound from the finale.

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<v Speaker 2>Of The Shy.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're looking at apartments my building going up on

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<v Speaker 3>the red Do you want to move here with me?

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<v Speaker 3>Don't play with me? Look, that's a big step, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you ready for that? I think so? You better

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<v Speaker 3>be sure. Let's just true. Would that make us official?

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<v Speaker 3>What you mean by official?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean no cheating?

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<v Speaker 2>M sure.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't sound sure.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't promise I'd be perfect, but I'm down true.

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<v Speaker 3>Me too.

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<v Speaker 1>That clip is both poignant and funny to me in

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<v Speaker 1>a variety of ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael, you's get to have you on how are you, sir?

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<v Speaker 4>Good?

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<v Speaker 2>How are you man?

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<v Speaker 1>If I can plain that being in great, I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>well and thanks for thanks for giving us a little

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<v Speaker 1>time here.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you hear that clip, what what do you hear?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I hear, I hear a young.

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<v Speaker 4>Man that knows what he wants and and it sounds

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<v Speaker 4>like he's trying to.

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<v Speaker 3>Compromise with his lady. Young man trying to get his

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<v Speaker 3>life together at a young age. That's what I hear.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>As I mentioned a couple of times already, The Shy,

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<v Speaker 1>this acclaimed series, has finally come to an end. So

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<v Speaker 1>the obvious question for you is what do you make

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<v Speaker 1>of the series now that it's concluded? Uh, the impact

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<v Speaker 1>that it has had and will have in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>Every every one of us, you know, uh builds careers

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<v Speaker 1>based upon you know, laying one brick at a time.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll talk about how you build your career moving

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<v Speaker 1>forward given the brick you've laid, called The Shy. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's talk to me about the series and the way

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<v Speaker 1>you see its impact.

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<v Speaker 4>I see it's impac is a big one the culture,

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<v Speaker 4>and not just for the culture, but also the youth.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, on The Shy is one of those shows

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<v Speaker 4>that once when it comes on, you're you gathering around

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<v Speaker 4>your front room and the living room with your family

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<v Speaker 4>to come watch it. You know, this is some people

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<v Speaker 4>would like to call uh think, I forget the name

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<v Speaker 4>for it, but it would be like their relaxing show.

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<v Speaker 4>They're unwind the time. You know, this is be their

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<v Speaker 4>their getaway. And I would like to have the Shot

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<v Speaker 4>in the category as those household shows such as Martin's

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<v Speaker 4>The The I guess you can the Powers, the Empires

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<v Speaker 4>and you feel me all those shows And when people

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<v Speaker 4>watching now We're in the future, I just want.

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<v Speaker 1>Them to.

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<v Speaker 4>See a story being told of a community that's misunderstood

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<v Speaker 4>and misinterpreted, and when they watch the shot, want them

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<v Speaker 4>to see more of the truth and what can be

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<v Speaker 4>and what can happen the stories and outcome as they

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<v Speaker 4>can come from these communities.

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<v Speaker 1>When you say that you think the show The Shy,

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<v Speaker 1>the series was a big win for the culture. Unpacked

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<v Speaker 1>that for mere big win for the culture in what waves.

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<v Speaker 4>In ways And I guess you could say stereotypes because

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like the shot really debunks a lot of those,

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<v Speaker 4>especially the city itself. You feel me when you hear Chicago,

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<v Speaker 4>or when you look at Chicago from the outside looking

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<v Speaker 4>in somebody who's never been there or don't know too

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<v Speaker 4>much about it, or are you see as violence or

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<v Speaker 4>that's what the media portrays to you. But if you

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<v Speaker 4>actually been in Chicago, you're from Chicago, you know Chicago.

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<v Speaker 3>And we had a complete opposite of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Chicago is a beautiful, loving, fun city, you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>you don't know that until you come there. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>one of my favorite things about the shot. I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like that's what the shot captures the most about it. Then, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we have a lot of critics who say things like

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like we missed the street essence of the shot,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, but everybody knows, Like that's kind of that's

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<v Speaker 4>the history of Chicago too. What a lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>don't know. It's like the human ezed side of it.

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<v Speaker 4>And I feel like that's what the show shows, and

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like that's the impact that it has is

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<v Speaker 4>giving you.

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<v Speaker 3>The truth is that's what a lot of people don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, shows common shows go. You know that better than

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<v Speaker 1>most because you're in the business obviously, so they come

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<v Speaker 1>and they go. It's not often the case, not always

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<v Speaker 1>the case that the show gets two, three, four, five, six,

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<v Speaker 1>seven plus seasons, the Shy ran what seven or eight seasons?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good long run. Yeah, eight seasons, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good long run. To what do you attribute its longevity

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<v Speaker 1>that it got eight seasons out of it's city? I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, to what do you attribute the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>this show, unlike some shows that get one season, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>half a season, sometimes they get canceled with at the

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<v Speaker 1>first couple of episodes, this show ran for eight long

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<v Speaker 1>seasons to what do you attribute the fact that the

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<v Speaker 1>show was able to have legs that long?

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<v Speaker 4>Again, just I got to give it to the authenticity

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<v Speaker 4>of it, for I really feel like that really plays

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<v Speaker 4>and made a part in it that and not only that,

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<v Speaker 4>but as the show go on and progresses.

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<v Speaker 3>Another thing we did was we listened to the people.

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<v Speaker 3>We listen to the fans.

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<v Speaker 4>We integrated their suggestions into the show and certain things

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<v Speaker 4>like It's one moment I.

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<v Speaker 3>Could recall on set was on.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe it was my I believe it was trig

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<v Speaker 4>and it was a certain type of wardrobe they want

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<v Speaker 4>to put them on, and we was gonna say it

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<v Speaker 4>was like, yeah, they'd be already on black Twitter talking

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<v Speaker 4>about us.

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<v Speaker 3>We got to change with out of that.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like, it's the small things like that that

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<v Speaker 4>make a show amazing and people love it, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's funny you say that. Now we're just

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Barack Obama. Uh, and you probably only recall

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<v Speaker 1>this story and it's tan suit that he wore back

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty fourteen, all the drama that came because of

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<v Speaker 1>the wardrobe choice that he made that particular day. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, all these intangibles make a difference in the

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<v Speaker 1>way a show is seen, the show is received, and

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<v Speaker 1>how it leans into the authentic story it is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to tell. We've come to the end after eight seasons

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<v Speaker 1>of The Shy.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael V.

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<v Speaker 1>Epps aka Mikey played Jake Taylor on the program. A

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<v Speaker 1>bit more about that and his music when we come

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<v Speaker 1>forward here on Tavis Smile was probably an actor a musician.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael V.

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<v Speaker 1>Epps aka Mikey played Jake Taylor on the highly acclaimed

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<v Speaker 1>series The Shy, which just ended after an eight year run.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a blessing to get a good long run

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<v Speaker 1>on any series these days. But once that series is over,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to figure out what the next step is.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you build on the foundation that that particular

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<v Speaker 1>series laid for you.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Michael, what happens next for you? Acting?

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<v Speaker 1>We get to the music here in a second, but

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<v Speaker 1>acting wise, how do you build on this opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the shy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, of course, as an acting you never know

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<v Speaker 4>when your next job is, so you just keeping working

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<v Speaker 4>and keeping yourself relevant. But aside from that, the pedestal

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<v Speaker 4>that the show has put me on and the big

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<v Speaker 4>fan base support that it's gave is giving me. One

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<v Speaker 4>I'm grateful, and two I'm I'm just gonna keep I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just gonna continue to feed them with things that they

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<v Speaker 4>that they love and that they continue to follow me

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<v Speaker 4>and mind me for until my next dick break come,

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<v Speaker 4>or I get another audition and or somebody hits me

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<v Speaker 4>up like hey, come do this movie?

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<v Speaker 3>Dumping this movie?

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<v Speaker 4>So until then, probably just be putting out stuff like well, actually,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna start getting behind the camera, so probably start

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<v Speaker 4>putting out on my own auditions for that or casting

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<v Speaker 4>calls for that, you know, And I got other stuff

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm working on behind the scenes aside from the

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<v Speaker 4>music and actor tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Me what, tell me what, what's What's what's intriguing you

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<v Speaker 2>about being behind.

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<v Speaker 3>The camera.

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<v Speaker 4>Just the fact being able to tell my own story,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Like it's as I got into music, and

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<v Speaker 4>I just like acting is one thing, but what I

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<v Speaker 4>discovered with music is like music is it's your own art.

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<v Speaker 4>It's your own everything from the beat selection to your lyrics,

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<v Speaker 4>to your livery to everything is yours is your own art.

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<v Speaker 4>And having that feeling, I just kind of I felt

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<v Speaker 4>like I wonder what that'll be on the actor side,

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<v Speaker 4>behind the camera, you know, and just being on set

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<v Speaker 4>working with different directors and just listen to the instructions

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<v Speaker 4>that they giveing me, like.

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<v Speaker 3>It kind of inspired me, like.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I can do this, Like I'm specifical what I want,

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<v Speaker 4>and I know what I want, and I know how

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<v Speaker 4>to tell you how what I want and tell you

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<v Speaker 4>how I want to deliver in a specific way. So

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<v Speaker 4>just thinking about all that and sitting back, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>I can I can get behind the camera, and I

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<v Speaker 4>have some interesting story that I want to be told,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I got a real creative mind and I've had

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<v Speaker 4>some wild dreams and just the stuff that I've been

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<v Speaker 4>learning relearning history and all that is definitely some things

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<v Speaker 4>that I want to write on a paper and making

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<v Speaker 4>my own movie or show or something.

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<v Speaker 1>One final question about The Shine with Rap our conversation

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<v Speaker 1>talking about your music, what is your greatest takeaway? What

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<v Speaker 1>will you most appreciate about having played the character Jake

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor on the Shot?

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably being able to, like I said, tell a story

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<v Speaker 4>of of a group of people, group of kids who

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<v Speaker 4>don't really be who's not able to speak for theirself.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, the people who's just before they're they're met,

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<v Speaker 4>before they're spoken to, the people who always talked about

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<v Speaker 4>from the ones on the outside looking in, but they

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<v Speaker 4>don't really know these people personally. You know. That's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like one of the biggest things or like the

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<v Speaker 4>proudest thing that I'm happy to be to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to be a part of from the Shot and playing Jake.

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<v Speaker 4>So just being able to and give them that different look,

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<v Speaker 4>like I said, you know, to debunk that that that

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<v Speaker 4>theory or whatever you want to call it, that people

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<v Speaker 4>pend on those people, So to give them that real

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<v Speaker 4>inside look, to show like not all people that come

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<v Speaker 4>from that choose that one way, that one route That's

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<v Speaker 4>one of my favorite things about JA like you in

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<v Speaker 4>the show, Oh season one, you see early on.

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<v Speaker 3>All day, he knows this, this is not the way

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<v Speaker 3>he wanted to go. I got bigger and better dreams.

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<v Speaker 4>So being able to embody that carret there and portray

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<v Speaker 4>that I was, I'm more than is more than a

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<v Speaker 4>happy morning, more than grateful.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, many moments of Michael Vipps.

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<v Speaker 1>When we come forward here on Tavis Smiley left in

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<v Speaker 1>this program today with a full show.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been We're.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost there, almost succeeded at getting this eighty pound show

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<v Speaker 1>in this forty pounds bag. It's been quite the lift today,

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<v Speaker 1>but we made it. I give the last word to

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Viepps. So we talked about the shy eight seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>a great run and not's come to a close. Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Vipps will build on that, no question about it. But

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<v Speaker 1>he's also, as I mentioned earlier, an artist. We started

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<v Speaker 1>this thirty minute segment playing some of his music, a

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<v Speaker 1>track called Drip. So in ninety seconds, Michael tell me

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<v Speaker 1>how the music is coming on, what you're working on

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<v Speaker 1>the music side. Michael, unmute yourself if you're muted, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>There you got here, now, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Go for it, Go for it, I said, the music

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<v Speaker 4>is coming along. Well, man, I got a single that

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<v Speaker 4>I dropped last summer. It's on our platform.

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<v Speaker 3>You can go get it now. Look up, Mike. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the name for now until for her the notice. Right now,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just working on other stuff. I got another song

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm gonna drop is called on and On, And

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<v Speaker 3>I just in the studio the other day I recorded

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<v Speaker 3>some other stuff, and I just.

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<v Speaker 4>Got songs in the vault, man, A song that I

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<v Speaker 4>can't drop I'm gonna redo, and then just a bunch

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<v Speaker 4>more that I'm writing, like I'm writing new songs every day.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that stuff in the vault as you write

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<v Speaker 1>new tracks every day. So we will continue in the

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<v Speaker 1>years to come to hear the music of Michael V. Epps,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure we'll see his face on the big

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<v Speaker 1>screen of the small screen in the future. But we

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<v Speaker 1>congratulate Michael Epps and the entire cast, Aleana Waite and

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<v Speaker 1>her vision the entire cast the cruise a good eight year.

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<v Speaker 2>Run for the shot.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Michael said it best earlier that it really

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<v Speaker 1>does or did change people's minds about the stereotypes of

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<v Speaker 1>a place like Chicago. In that regard, it was, as

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<v Speaker 1>Michael said, a contribution to the culture.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll leave it there.

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<v Speaker 1>Actor musician Michael VIPs aka Mikey played Jake Taylor on

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<v Speaker 1>the shot, and we look forward to what his career

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<v Speaker 1>will unfold in the months and.

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<v Speaker 2>Years to come. Michael, good to have you on. All

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<v Speaker 2>the best of you and enjoy the rest of your day, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>Likewise, just like.

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<v Speaker 1>That three hours ago and we did it. Eighty pounds show,

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<v Speaker 1>forty pound bag. Hopefully tomorrow, Jay Feraji, don't bring me

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<v Speaker 1>no eighteen guests tomorrow. I A'm doing it two days

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<v Speaker 1>in a row anyway, Love y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Tabby Smiley. Until next time, keep the faith.