WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.840 --> 00:00:03.600 Time now though for our well hopefully weekly now that 2 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:06.440 the jazz season has started. My buddy Andy Larson stops 3 00:00:06.480 --> 00:00:09.080 by on a Friday. Andy, Happy Friday, Man, How you doing. 4 00:00:09.720 --> 00:00:12.439 I'm good Man, How I'm good? So as a celebrator 5 00:00:12.439 --> 00:00:17.000 of holidays, saincode mile little inside baseball there. I know 6 00:00:17.120 --> 00:00:21.640 that your Halloween was occupied by jazz basketball, but there 7 00:00:21.679 --> 00:00:25.399 had to have been one or two Andy Larson Halloween excursions. 8 00:00:25.480 --> 00:00:28.879 Yes, yeah, you know. Last weekend was a good time. 9 00:00:28.920 --> 00:00:33.079 My friends through a Halloween party. It was a SpongeBob 10 00:00:33.159 --> 00:00:36.560 teams party, which was interesting. But I'll tell you what 11 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:38.960 the best part of that party was that two separate 12 00:00:38.960 --> 00:00:45.359 couples came as the same couple's costume, one as Sandy 13 00:00:45.439 --> 00:00:48.640 Cheeks and one as Mermaid Man. If you're familiar, RESPONSI, well, 14 00:00:48.679 --> 00:00:50.920 I don't know, but the what are the odds that 15 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:54.520 two couples come as Sandy and Mermaid man? It's it's 16 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:57.079 uh yeah, unlikely, but it was. It was a lot 17 00:00:57.079 --> 00:00:57.359 of fun. 18 00:00:57.799 --> 00:00:59.399 I gotta know what you dressed up as. 19 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:05.040 Obviously, I unfortunately did not have a SpongeBob costume, and 20 00:01:05.079 --> 00:01:07.319 I went pretty lame this year. I used reused last 21 00:01:07.400 --> 00:01:10.280 year's costume Alan from the Barbie movie. 22 00:01:11.079 --> 00:01:13.680 You know you're getting old when you start reusing costumes, right. 23 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:17.680 Yeah, yeah, you know, if we've talked about this on 24 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:20.439 this program before, I am washed. And that's just all 25 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:21.000 there is. 26 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:24.840 You're thirty. You can't say you're washed. I have adult 27 00:01:24.879 --> 00:01:26.959 memories from the year you were born. You're not allowed 28 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:27.719 to say you're washed. 29 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:31.079 Andy, Listen, I know when NBA player prime is and 30 00:01:31.159 --> 00:01:31.879 I am beyondest. 31 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:33.439 That's true. Can't argue with that all. 32 00:01:33.519 --> 00:01:35.239 Right, before we get to the jazz, since we just 33 00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:39.319 did a NBA conversation with the incomparable Howard Beck, we 34 00:01:39.359 --> 00:01:43.120 will start with a little RSL so had problem on this. 35 00:01:43.040 --> 00:01:46.319 Week, and you know, it's pretty clear. 36 00:01:46.239 --> 00:01:50.040 That RSL's having issues breaking down the way Minnesota plays. 37 00:01:50.079 --> 00:01:52.840 We have three games now and I think one goal 38 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:56.359 in the run of play. What's fair to say about 39 00:01:56.519 --> 00:01:59.599 RSL's failure to get the win on Tuesday night, and 40 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:01.680 what are your thoughts on the potential of them coming 41 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:03.200 back home after the match tomorrow. 42 00:02:03.879 --> 00:02:06.040 Yeah. Look, I mean they're just not the attacking team 43 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:08.240 that they were earlier in the year. You know, they 44 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:11.680 don't have the danger on the wings or in the 45 00:02:11.719 --> 00:02:14.960 middle to consistently score goals, to make teams scared, to 46 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:18.719 make teams nervous. You know, I think the tempo is 47 00:02:18.759 --> 00:02:23.159 clearly lower. The technique in the final third is you know, 48 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:26.759 you're not seeing guys being dribbled around, or you're not 49 00:02:26.879 --> 00:02:30.039 seeing shots put on target as frequently. You're it's just 50 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:32.639 a lower standard of play. And look, some of that 51 00:02:32.719 --> 00:02:35.560 is losing Andre skimz Or. I think was a top 52 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:38.639 three winger in MLS this year before he was sold. 53 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:41.039 And you know, again I defended that cell before and 54 00:02:41.039 --> 00:02:43.439 I think it was a reasonable call for ourselves. But 55 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:46.360 you know, the big loss, frankly, is that Chicho has 56 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:51.280 gone from MVP caliber player, best caliber, best striker, best 57 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:55.520 player in the league caliber to really bad, frankly, like, 58 00:02:55.639 --> 00:02:57.840 he's not even an average MLS striker right now. He 59 00:02:57.919 --> 00:03:00.479 is complaining to the referees, he is jogging around the pitch. 60 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:03.280 He is not contributing on the defensive end, he is 61 00:03:03.319 --> 00:03:05.840 not making productive runs on the offensive end, he's not 62 00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:08.080 setting up his teammates. And you know, most importantly, he's 63 00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:10.479 not scoring goals. He scored one goal in his last 64 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:13.840 whatever seventeen matches. I think it is so look, That's 65 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:16.319 what it comes down to is the players aren't performing 66 00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:20.479 like they used to and you know clearly are less 67 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:23.199 talented than they were earlier in the year. And so it's, 68 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:26.080 as an RSL fan, a little, you know, a little 69 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:28.599 bit of a bummer to be sure. I don't, you know, 70 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:31.039 I think they still have a chance to get a 71 00:03:31.039 --> 00:03:33.719 result in Minnesota and come back to Salt Lake, but 72 00:03:34.039 --> 00:03:36.639 it's not something they should be favored in by any means, 73 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:40.479 and it's been kind of a yeah, bummer into the season. 74 00:03:41.000 --> 00:03:44.319 One more thing here, and I am far from a 75 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:47.800 tactician or a soccer expert. I'm simply somebody who's now 76 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:49.599 watched and covered it for twenty years. 77 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:51.759 So I have a little bit of a. 78 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:54.240 Pults on it, but from an attacking standpoint, because look, 79 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:57.039 if they do not find a solution, and they might 80 00:03:57.120 --> 00:03:59.719 only need one solution, I think if they can get 81 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:03.479 one goal, Minnesota will have to engage and then RSL, 82 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:06.120 in my opinion, probably a more skilled team that can 83 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:09.560 out outplay them if Minnesota is actually engaging with them. 84 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:15.159 But like Diego's your designated player, and you know, maybe 85 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:18.079 I don't fully grasp the whole like Matt Crooks runs 86 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:22.079 far thing, But do you anticipate any changes with the 87 00:04:22.120 --> 00:04:25.959 attacking formation where Crooks is centralized, Mark Zuku has been awesome, 88 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:29.720 is outright, Diego's out left, and Chicho up top, Like 89 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:32.279 if they're going to find a solution to break through 90 00:04:32.279 --> 00:04:34.720 that wall, do you think the attacking group, just as 91 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:37.720 far as the personnel personnel goes, needs to be different. 92 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:41.920 I think they're more dangerous with Julio up the top, 93 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:45.240 and you know, and maybe at the expense of Chicho 94 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:47.240 at this point, because again I do think he's been 95 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:48.920 that bad. Now I get it like he's a DP, 96 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:53.759 but both dps frankly, have not been among RSL's top 97 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:56.959 three attacking players in the last few months, right Like 98 00:04:57.079 --> 00:05:00.360 I think Sperris Anderson, Julio has been better than Teacho 99 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:02.800 over the last couple of months. Mark Duke certainly has been. 100 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:05.839 I think Diego Luna has been too. So who of 101 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:08.879 those guys are you going to put come make come 102 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:12.079 off the bench out of that top four? I you know, 103 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:16.279 I look at what happened on Tuesday and think, you know, 104 00:05:16.439 --> 00:05:20.399 probably a change needs to be made. There's not a 105 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:23.360 great answer, because Dieogo and Tito haven't been playing well, 106 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:26.759 and so I'm not exactly sure what I do if 107 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:29.120 I'm Pablo. You know again, I do think it probably 108 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:33.480 involved Anderson Julio from the jump, but I don't have 109 00:05:33.519 --> 00:05:36.639 a ton of confidence in that necessarily breaking down Minnesota 110 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:38.519 because of like you said, they are a very good 111 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:41.000 defensive team that is going to be pretty responsible and 112 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:44.120 not necessarily let him get it in behind, which I 113 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:46.519 think is probably his best attribute as a striker. 114 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:48.839 All right, moving over now to the Jazz. 115 00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:51.680 Since you and I last spoke, just a horrific scene, 116 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:55.639 and you know, the the night and several things are horrific, 117 00:05:55.639 --> 00:05:57.360 but let's start about you know, let's start with the 118 00:05:57.360 --> 00:06:00.480 one involving the injury. You know, the night as we're 119 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:03.720 in Dallas, there was a lot going on. There's football, 120 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:06.279 there's baseball. I've flipped them back and forth, and suddenly, 121 00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:09.319 in an instant, my phone just blows up and it 122 00:06:09.399 --> 00:06:12.000 was all, did you see what happened to Taylor? So 123 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:15.199 I switch over, I rewind, I watched it once. I 124 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:17.839 do not want to see a replay, but just gutted 125 00:06:17.879 --> 00:06:20.439 for the kid because I do feel like he was 126 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:23.800 showing signs of improvement and potential so just give me 127 00:06:23.800 --> 00:06:26.199 your thoughts on the whole thing, your knowledge as of 128 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:28.319 now as far as what the plan is and does 129 00:06:28.360 --> 00:06:30.480 it change the calculus at all about what he can 130 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:31.399 be eventually. 131 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:34.079 Yeah, look, I mean it sucks. I was in the 132 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:36.759 third row in Dallas when it happened, and I'll be honest, 133 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:39.279 I was watching the ball, not Taylor running down the court. 134 00:06:39.319 --> 00:06:42.040 I didn't see appen live. I did see. I did 135 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:47.040 hear kind of a scream and I heard the crowd react, 136 00:06:47.079 --> 00:06:51.120 and I saw Taylor's leg in the sideway's position in 137 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:54.040 a way that you know, no one ever wants to 138 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:56.959 see that happened. It just sucks for the kid, Like 139 00:06:57.240 --> 00:06:59.120 I do think you're right, Like he had taken clear 140 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:01.399 and obvious steps this year, not that he was a 141 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:04.000 world beater by any means, and was in the starting 142 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:06.720 lineup kind of to fill a role, not because he 143 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:10.079 was like a starting caliber NBA player, but was on 144 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:12.439 the path to being something useful and good. 145 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:12.920 And. 146 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:17.000 Now that will be delayed by probably about a year. 147 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:19.920 The team still has to figure out when his surgery 148 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:22.040 date is going to be and kind of what surgery 149 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:25.000 in particular they're going to be doing kind of how 150 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:27.680 many of the ligaments can need to be repaired and 151 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:30.240 so on and so forth, like it's it's going to 152 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:33.240 be a major surgery though, And it honestly reminds me 153 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:36.279 a lot of Dante Exum nine years ago, where you know, 154 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:41.439 had a you know, pretty raw rookie season, showed some 155 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:44.000 flashes in his second year, and then had that cut short. 156 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:47.319 You know, I guess Dante had his flashes in summer 157 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:49.399 league and Taylor had his flashes in the first three 158 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:53.399 games of the regular season. But it's it can be 159 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:56.959 a huge deal for a players development and production to 160 00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:01.040 have to miss a full year of development and growth, 161 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:05.199 and so it is a significant bummer for Taylor Hendricks. 162 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:08.959 It's devastating for the Jazz, who now no longer have 163 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:12.360 anyone to guard the opponent's best player as well as 164 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:16.560 Taylor did. It's it's as bad as news as a 165 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:19.959 franchise like Jazz can get. Given that this year is 166 00:08:19.959 --> 00:08:22.360 all about player development and giving the young player's time. 167 00:08:22.519 --> 00:08:24.759 Now they can't give Taylor Hendrick that time, and it 168 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:27.600 it just does suck all right. 169 00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:30.639 Moving over just to the team overall, I am a 170 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:34.360 huge fan. I love what I'm seeing. I'm going to 171 00:08:34.519 --> 00:08:37.679 order my Cooper Flag Jazz uniform when I get home, 172 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:38.759 my Jazz jersey. 173 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:40.320 I'm andy. 174 00:08:40.679 --> 00:08:43.200 I know it's a tough ask for the fans, it's 175 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:46.000 a tough ask for the broadcasters, it's a tough ask 176 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:48.759 for the coaches and players themselves. 177 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:50.240 And it's a tough ask for team employees. 178 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:53.879 But for me, oh eighty two, man, like, I have 179 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:57.039 no issue with this horrible start. The best time to 180 00:08:57.080 --> 00:08:59.080 do this would have been two years ago, as we 181 00:08:59.159 --> 00:09:01.919 saw a first row last night, the second best time 182 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:02.759 to do it is now. 183 00:09:02.919 --> 00:09:04.679 So tell me where you're at with. 184 00:09:04.679 --> 00:09:06.519 This whole thing where it doesn't look like they're gonna 185 00:09:06.519 --> 00:09:07.480 win a lot of games. 186 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:10.240 Yeah, look, I'm with you. And then it's funny after 187 00:09:10.600 --> 00:09:12.120 I think last time I talked to you, remember it 188 00:09:12.159 --> 00:09:15.879 was OCU. It was after the Memphis game, was like, hey, 189 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:18.080 they look kind of competitive, and then they have just 190 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:22.960 looked incredibly uncompetitive over the last four where they're they're 191 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:25.200 not even close to even you know, the San Antonio 192 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:27.879 Spurs had only one win coming into last night and 193 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:31.720 had not looked like a reasonable NBA team, and you know, 194 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:36.240 won that game by eighteen. It's it's going to be 195 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:38.200 a long year. It's going to be a year where 196 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:41.919 we're focused on off court things like the stadium, like 197 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:44.360 the Delta Center, like you know, what's going on with 198 00:09:44.399 --> 00:09:46.799 the fan base, what's going on with TV contracts on 199 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:50.679 and so forth. We're going to be watching young development. 200 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:52.840 We're going to see if Keyante George is something or 201 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:56.320 if he's nothing. We're going to see if Cody Williams 202 00:09:56.360 --> 00:09:58.840 can make any kind of impact on NBA games. We're 203 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:02.279 going to see if Caylesolow is a reasonable player or not. 204 00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:05.080 Like there's going to be a lot of learning here, 205 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:07.000 but the learning we've done so far is all pretty 206 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:11.000 much in the negative direction, and that's valuable in its 207 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:14.720 own right, but it's not promising, and so yeah, it's 208 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:18.279 a long season. I'm with you. I think it's probably 209 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:20.480 the right move if you are trying to win a 210 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:23.759 championship down the road, if you just want it to 211 00:10:23.759 --> 00:10:27.000 be playoffs kind of competitive. I think there are probably 212 00:10:27.080 --> 00:10:31.279 easier ways to do that, but that's not what ownership wants, 213 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:33.960 and I think that makes sense. I think you know, 214 00:10:34.279 --> 00:10:38.399 they want to deliver the first Jazz championship ever, and 215 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:43.600 that probably requires a franchise changing star that they don't 216 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:45.519 have on the roster and don't have any other way 217 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:46.639 to get besides this way. 218 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:48.679 So the question simply is this. 219 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:52.000 And you know, as I talk about often being on 220 00:10:52.039 --> 00:10:53.720 this side of the mic and knowing what it's like 221 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:56.039 on the other side of the doors where decisions are made, 222 00:10:56.519 --> 00:10:59.879 there's always the message the front office delivers. Then there's 223 00:10:59.919 --> 00:11:03.399 always the truth behind the scenes. And when you're losing, intentionally, 224 00:11:04.080 --> 00:11:07.120 you say things like youth, and you say things like development, 225 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:10.240 and you do you do things like replacing Taylor in 226 00:11:10.279 --> 00:11:12.120 the starting lineup with other young players. 227 00:11:12.519 --> 00:11:15.000 So do you believe what we're seeing. 228 00:11:14.960 --> 00:11:17.399 Now in front of us is an intentional move by 229 00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:17.919 the Jazz? 230 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:21.320 Yeah, I mean there's no question about it. 231 00:11:21.399 --> 00:11:21.600 Yes. 232 00:11:21.840 --> 00:11:24.840 I mean, look and they say things on the record, 233 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:26.759 and then they say things off the record, and we 234 00:11:26.879 --> 00:11:30.559 know what it'll look. It's we can use our own 235 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:33.759 eyes on what's happening here. You know, if the Jazz 236 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:35.960 were trying to win games, Calm Section would not be 237 00:11:36.120 --> 00:11:38.720 on the bench. If they were trying to win games. 238 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:41.720 Kyle Tilapowski is not the replacement for Larry Mark then 239 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:45.840 starting lineup right, Like, you can just see what's going 240 00:11:45.879 --> 00:11:48.600 on and the decisions that are like, it's it's it's 241 00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:52.000 they don't want to win games, and it does suck 242 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:54.480 like that the current NBA incentive structure, and I wish 243 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:56.399 that weren't the case, but yeah, they're trying to lose. 244 00:11:56.960 --> 00:11:57.559 Yep, yep. 245 00:11:57.679 --> 00:12:00.840 Now that's the deal, all right. So, in the name 246 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:04.720 of development and in the name of trying to understand 247 00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:08.559 if these young guys are actually growing, let's have a 248 00:12:08.559 --> 00:12:11.840 conversation about Kyante. And I'm not going to regurgitate the 249 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:15.080 stats that I've been spewing all week, but I'll just summarize, 250 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:18.879 with one year of college basketball and one year of 251 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:22.399 pro basketball and five years of his second year, it's 252 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:25.879 pretty simple. He can't shoot. His field goal percentage is horrible. 253 00:12:25.919 --> 00:12:29.320 His three point percentage is horrible. So at what point 254 00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:32.440 do we just simply become concerned about Kyante's growth and 255 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:34.279 whether or not he can ever just simply be a 256 00:12:34.279 --> 00:12:35.960 guy that can make shots at a higher clip. 257 00:12:36.879 --> 00:12:39.480 Yeah, I think it's completely fair. I mean I think, 258 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:43.240 and frankly, I guess the second point on that would be, 259 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:45.480 if he can't shoot, he can't be an NBA player, 260 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:48.240 Like he can't get to the rim well enough He's 261 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:50.360 not a good enough paster and is one of the 262 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:53.840 worst defenders in the league. So his only value is 263 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:56.000 if he is a good shooter. And as he pointed out, 264 00:12:56.039 --> 00:12:59.440 the field goal percentages throughout his college and NBA career 265 00:12:59.480 --> 00:13:02.320 have not been good enough. I do think some of 266 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:04.519 that is because of shot selection, and I do think 267 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:06.840 like there's a world in which he trims it down 268 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:10.799 and gets kind of makes the open looks and develops, 269 00:13:10.879 --> 00:13:13.919 you know, two or three percent, and you know, becomes 270 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:17.559 a better player, becomes a better shooter where he is useful, 271 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:21.039 you know, like I think there's like a George Hill 272 00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:24.120 without defense kind of angle there. They know, like I'm 273 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:27.679 trying to come up with another player complex Seth curry E. 274 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:32.600 You know, maybe even there they're backup point guards kind 275 00:13:32.600 --> 00:13:34.519 of in the NBA. That makes sense. But look, I 276 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:38.000 was higher on Keyante coming into the years than this, 277 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:41.080 and he's it's only been a week, and maybe it's 278 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:44.600 just a terrible first week, but he has been the 279 00:13:44.639 --> 00:13:47.759 worst player on the floor in at least four of 280 00:13:47.799 --> 00:13:51.679 these five games. And there's some Trey Burke frivees here 281 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:54.200 where you know, Trey Burke had a pretty good rookie 282 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:56.879 year and then came into his second year and had 283 00:13:56.919 --> 00:13:59.440 the worst shooting percentage in NBA history for the forty 284 00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:03.120 years Previo and pretty clearly showed that he was not 285 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:07.080 an NBA player. And if Keyante doesn't turn it around, 286 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:09.360 he's not an NBA player. He still has all the 287 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:12.480 opportunity to the world in the world. He's smarter than 288 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:15.519 Trey Burke is. I think he's watched more film than 289 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:18.279 Tray Burk did. I think he's more mature than Trey 290 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:21.000 Burke was then, who had some kind of like unreported 291 00:14:21.039 --> 00:14:26.120 immaturity issues at that time. But like in the end, 292 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:28.960 it's about how you're good are are on the basketball floor, 293 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:32.120 and he is not good enough right now if he 294 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:34.360 continues to play this way to be in the NBA. 295 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:38.320 Are you surprised that you referenced Colin Colin Sexton. Are 296 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:40.600 you surprised that they've decided to put him on the 297 00:14:40.600 --> 00:14:42.279 bench and Star Clarkson. 298 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:45.720 Again? What is the point of this? What is the 299 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:46.480 goal of this team? 300 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:49.799 We're just doing radio Andy, I've got about five minutes left. 301 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:53.159 Yeah, Look, and they're not trying to win. I mean, 302 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:57.399 Colin is good enough to win games. I'll say this also, 303 00:14:57.519 --> 00:15:00.799 like Colin is dealing with a finger injury. He hasn't 304 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:03.399 played that well off or on the bench this year, 305 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:07.879 So I don't think, you know, I think Jordan's maybe 306 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:10.919 makes more sense as a two than Colin does. But 307 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:14.799 I mean, it's it's all they're just trying to get 308 00:15:14.840 --> 00:15:17.480 their young players in positions to succeed, right, Like, so 309 00:15:17.840 --> 00:15:21.000 they think Jordan's probably a better passer, maybe a better 310 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:24.519 teammate to the young guys in the first unit, and 311 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:28.360 then Colin can kind of drive action with John Collins 312 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:32.600 and you know, and Bryce sent the bah and blah 313 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:36.120 blah blah, so that you have like a semi reasonable 314 00:15:36.240 --> 00:15:41.960 competitive second unit. But like it's it's not again, if 315 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:43.879 you really wanted to win games, you would be playing 316 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:45.240 Colm Section thirty five minutes night. 317 00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:48.080 All right, man, I don't know. 318 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:51.960 Walker Kessler's been kind of good, question mark right. 319 00:15:53.480 --> 00:15:59.159 Kyle Philipowski has been good, has been more NBA ready 320 00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:02.279 than I thought he would be, has actually looked physical 321 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:04.519 on the offensive end, has done some nice stuff passing, 322 00:16:05.840 --> 00:16:08.600 has is not a great defender right now, but is 323 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:11.440 honestly keeping up more than kind of the worry. He 324 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:15.360 was both Kyle and Walker. I think are the positive 325 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:18.360 stories on the jessne other than that it gets it 326 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:19.279 gets rough quickly. 327 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:21.159 All Right, before I set you loose, because I know 328 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:24.200 you got to get to it, Let's talk vibes. Let's 329 00:16:24.279 --> 00:16:26.600 look for the gen Z years and the millennials out there. 330 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:29.600 I'm a results over vibes guy, but we know results 331 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:33.360 are put aside. I was there on op night against Memphis. 332 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:36.120 The crowd was great. My buddy was there last night 333 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:38.759 against the Spurs. He said it was very underwhelming. And 334 00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:41.360 I'm certainly not going to blame fans because this product 335 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:43.840 is going to be horrible. But since you're there every night, 336 00:16:43.960 --> 00:16:46.000 how are the vibes, how's the crowd? And how do 337 00:16:46.039 --> 00:16:48.000 you think the team is holding up during this really 338 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:48.840 difficult time. 339 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:54.120 Yeah, honestly, it's been fine. I think it's something definitely 340 00:16:54.159 --> 00:16:56.799 to watch moving forward. And look, we're in the first 341 00:16:56.840 --> 00:16:59.360 week of a really long season, right like we saw 342 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:02.919 somebody and more games of this, But I think the 343 00:17:02.919 --> 00:17:05.200 crowd has been, you know, relatively into it. It was 344 00:17:05.240 --> 00:17:07.880 pretty empty at the beginning of last night's game and 345 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:11.200 then filled in more second and third quarter. It's also Halloween, 346 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:15.440 so everyone has other stuff to do. Tickets are extremely 347 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:17.880 cheap on the secondary market, right, Like you can buy 348 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:20.079 tickets to sit in the lower bowl last night for 349 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:24.240 fourteen dollars. Like, So that being said, I do think 350 00:17:24.640 --> 00:17:26.880 even at that price, like fans are gonna buy them, 351 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:29.680 and like kind of someone's gonna probably sit in that 352 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:35.799 seat and the arena won't look completely empty. And the players, 353 00:17:35.880 --> 00:17:38.839 you know, like Lowry knows what's going on, Colin knows 354 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:42.599 what's going on. He's just like, you know, they are 355 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:45.680 extremely well compensated to kind of deal with these kind 356 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:49.759 of situations. So maybe the vibes I'm more worried about 357 00:17:49.799 --> 00:17:53.880 are from say like Walker, Kestler and Kyante and Taylor. 358 00:17:54.079 --> 00:17:57.400 Now obviously he's had this catastrophic injury. It's like kind 359 00:17:57.400 --> 00:17:59.680 of the long term pieces and to see how they 360 00:17:59.799 --> 00:18:03.079 do with losing and see how much effort and focus 361 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:06.640 they put into their development. But so far, honestly, it's 362 00:18:06.680 --> 00:18:09.559 been it's been fine. It hasn't been a problem. Well, 363 00:18:09.640 --> 00:18:11.920 we'll get back to you in January and February when 364 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:14.559 it really becomes dog days, but we're still I guess 365 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:18.119 it's November first now, It's it's still fine right now. 366 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:20.599 Fair enough. Andy, appreciate the time, man. 367 00:18:20.640 --> 00:18:21.799 We'll let you get to it O have a good 368 00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:23.759 weekend and we'll see if the lads can get it done. 369 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:25.960 Yeah, no worries, Yeah, sound good? 370 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:26.720 Thanks all right. 371 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:30.559 Andy Larson covers the Utah Jazz for the Salt Lake Tribune. Right, 372 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:32.880 it's a data column for them once a week as well. 373 00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:36.279 Get them on Twitter at Andy B. Larson or Andy 374 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:39.480 Blarsan as he likes us to say, a little behind 375 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:42.359 the glass coming up, Neil Smith or some Utah hockey club. 376 00:18:42.359 --> 00:18:44.519 We'll bring in Zach Harper. Get back to college football 377 00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:46.200 later on. Got to tell you about my friends at 378 00:18:46.240 --> 00:18:50.960 Prize Picks. 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