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<v Speaker 1>Hey, thirty three Friday Eve, It's that time. I always

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to this time on the fifty five Case

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<v Speaker 1>Morning Show because I get to and I'm honored to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to have them on the program. My heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Media aviation expert Jay Ratliff, welcome back, my friend. Love

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<v Speaker 1>having you on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, the honor and pleasure is mine. Believe me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know I'm going to take you a different direction.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a list. I know what your list is,

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<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't mean that option for the curveballs. I

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<v Speaker 1>say it was in the status dude with this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>they had to turn another flight around after two hours

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<v Speaker 1>over the Atlantic. Someone I guess got into a bout

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<v Speaker 1>of explosive diarrhea, creating a medical conmergency condition or at

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<v Speaker 1>least a biohazard condition on the plane, requiring them to

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<v Speaker 1>turn around after two hours of flight back to go

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<v Speaker 1>to New York City for an emergency landing. That just

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<v Speaker 1>is just a terrible situation. I don't know how you

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<v Speaker 1>can get around that, though, Well you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't, but you've got protocols. Because we're dealing with hazardous materials,

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<v Speaker 2>We're dealing with something that is not a disruptive passenger

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<v Speaker 2>from a behavior standpoint, that you can secure in a seat,

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<v Speaker 2>not dutt table, though we used to do that a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>This is something that requires the crew to say, find

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<v Speaker 2>the closest airport, and if you're over the Atlantic and

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<v Speaker 2>the closest airport is the flight airport you took off

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<v Speaker 2>from two hours back, that's exactly what you do. And

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<v Speaker 2>you just you know, everything is handled in a very

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<v Speaker 2>precise way so that they make sure that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>passengers are impacted as little as possible. Obviously, if you've

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<v Speaker 2>got a flight that's not completely full, the flight attendants

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<v Speaker 2>have a way of moving passengers around to try to

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<v Speaker 2>distance them from whatever areas might be affected. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a rough situation. But you know, when you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the fact that globally we might have eight million

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<v Speaker 2>people a day flying, and we look at the number

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<v Speaker 2>of these kinds of stories, it's amazing to me that

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<v Speaker 2>more of these types of stories, maybe not this specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>but behavioral stories and people that might pass away on

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<v Speaker 2>a flight or whatever, that we don't have greater numbers

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<v Speaker 2>of those because we would hear about them immediately. Because

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<v Speaker 2>these stories go viral before the plane even lands.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good point. Welcome to the Internet, Jay Ratliff,

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<v Speaker 1>let's paust one and bring it back. I got one

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<v Speaker 1>more to three direction before we get to the luggage article,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a rather funny story as well. So lightning

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<v Speaker 1>things up as we close out. You ever been in

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<v Speaker 1>a cockpit before? Jay ratlif As, He's an art media

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<v Speaker 1>aviation expert. He's pilot. It's also a savvy investor, no trader, traders.

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<v Speaker 2>Investors the by holding free crowd. That's a friend of

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<v Speaker 2>mine last week told me that ten years ago he

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<v Speaker 2>bought United Airline stock at forty four dollars a year,

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<v Speaker 2>really thrilled at it at the time. Ten years later,

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<v Speaker 2>brand that stock is priced at forty three dollars in

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<v Speaker 2>eighty nine cents a share. He's not made a single penny.

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<v Speaker 2>And I told him in that time, I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 2>used you. I did a couple of times during those

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<v Speaker 2>days to make several thousand dollars in a day. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, my students and I do are more

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<v Speaker 2>of a trade traders versus investors. I just wanted to know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're right, and I do know that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I should have more properly stated it. Is it right?

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<v Speaker 2>That's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Day trade fun, isn't it it is?

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<v Speaker 2>Orjratlift dot comments how people around the world. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got students down in Asia, Europe, South America, all

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<v Speaker 2>over the United States. We have a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 2>and it's as long as they followed the rules. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I got an email from a guy this morning in

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<v Speaker 2>pre market. He had twelve percent on one stock. He's

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<v Speaker 2>off to the driving range, going to go play golf

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<v Speaker 2>day over.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what it's all about.

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<v Speaker 2>Just you take if you follow the rules, yes, but

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<v Speaker 2>if you jump into it and don't know what you're doing,

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<v Speaker 2>it can be horrific. And that's one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 2>you need to learn before you do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, you teach people how to just be satisfied with

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, take the money you got and get the

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<v Speaker 1>hell out and be happy with it, because quite often

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<v Speaker 1>in a short period of time you can make a

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<v Speaker 1>week's worth of salar. You just don't want it to

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<v Speaker 1>sit there for a long time and think you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to ride it up a lot higher than wherever you are.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, by the way, you and I've talked about that,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can be incredibly good at what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. You you teach people that all the time. So

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<v Speaker 1>a free plug for you. And I'm happy to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to do that. And I just noticed other drunk

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<v Speaker 1>people on planes. They caused so much problems. We got

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<v Speaker 1>this idiot who has blastered out of his gore to

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<v Speaker 1>try to break into the cockpit of a jet easy

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<v Speaker 1>Jet flight going from London London Gatwick Airport in the UK,

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<v Speaker 1>forcing it, of course to have to divert. He also

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<v Speaker 1>tried to open an exit door. You know, it's people

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<v Speaker 1>like this who are going to end up having alcohol

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<v Speaker 1>prohibited on airplanes. Jay, Well, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And that comes up because look, we had another alcohol

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<v Speaker 2>related event on American Airlines flight going Milwaukee to Dallas

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<v Speaker 2>had to divert to Tulsa because this was yesterday or

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<v Speaker 2>day before because the guy was vaping on the plane

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<v Speaker 2>even though he shouldn't. Then he started chasing a flight

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<v Speaker 2>attendant around and alcohol was involved here. And I've had

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<v Speaker 2>many people say, Jay, all airlines have to do is

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<v Speaker 2>to be alcohol and then we can elimitate and eliminate

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<v Speaker 2>those problems. Some are saying all airports have to do

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<v Speaker 2>is eliminate alcohol and we can avoid the problems on

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<v Speaker 2>board the plane, because a lot of people will get

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<v Speaker 2>on the plane, you know, with several drinks already consumed.

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<v Speaker 2>The issue with it is, though, and the bottom line remains,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a revenue source for airports as well as it

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<v Speaker 2>is for airlines. And an airline would say to us, look,

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<v Speaker 2>if we have one situation out of two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five thousand passengers, right, and they're not super violence situations,

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<v Speaker 2>just things we have to respond to the revenue that

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<v Speaker 2>we can create through this, plus the idea that alcohol

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<v Speaker 2>can help some of our passengers who are anxious flyers.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where I was going a little bit. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>I was going. It would be worse without alcohol because

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<v Speaker 1>everybody who needs a cocktail to get one.

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<v Speaker 2>That on an advertisement, I can promise you that. But

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom line is it's a revenue source and airlines

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<v Speaker 2>are not going to mess with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that all day long. All right, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>over to the luggage. You get a little pro With fishermen.

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<v Speaker 2>We had thirty of them coming back from a very

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<v Speaker 2>successful fishing trip and Brian, they had two thousand pounds

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<v Speaker 2>of freshly caught halib it that was in all of

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<v Speaker 2>their they were probably in the styrofoam containers. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>they tend to do. And you can put up to

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<v Speaker 2>five and a half pounds of dry ice in there

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<v Speaker 2>to keep it from spoiling, and no more than that.

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<v Speaker 2>And remember dry ice is a hazardous material. Can only

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<v Speaker 2>be in check luggage. You can only do it when

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<v Speaker 2>you are in essence, well not check luggage only, but

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<v Speaker 2>the ideas you have to declare it at the checking

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<v Speaker 2>point so that the airlines know that you have it

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<v Speaker 2>and when they check it to make sure it's no

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<v Speaker 2>more than what you have. But the problem here was

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<v Speaker 2>when these thirty fishermen got back from this successful trip

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<v Speaker 2>into Seattle on the last airlines, their bags didn't arrive,

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<v Speaker 2>so last airlines couldn't find the fish. And of course,

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<v Speaker 2>you know some of them are thinking, hey, somebody stole

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<v Speaker 2>our fish. Yeah, you've got you've got crooked agent and

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<v Speaker 2>all this kind of stuff. Well, the dry ice is

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<v Speaker 2>going to buy you about eighteen to twenty four hours

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<v Speaker 2>after that your toast. And believe me, I have removed

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<v Speaker 2>bags off of airplane that have had fish in them

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<v Speaker 2>that were many days delayed. It's just it's horrific. Can't

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<v Speaker 2>get the smell out of your nose forever. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what you do with the clothesing there, but

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<v Speaker 2>these guys finally, the last airline said we located the luggage.

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<v Speaker 2>It shows up days later, and of course all the

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<v Speaker 2>fish is spoiled. So they complain and Alaska Airlines, because

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<v Speaker 2>of their conditions of contract, Brian, they're not required to

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<v Speaker 2>fully reimburse these fishermen. But to Alaska Airlines management credit,

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<v Speaker 2>they said, look, we're going to reimburse you, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get you two thousand pounds freshly caught hal

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<v Speaker 2>of it now thirty six dollars a pound. Holy cow,

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<v Speaker 2>seventy two grand is what it cost them. And when

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<v Speaker 2>you recognize airlines make on ames stick flight a few

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars at least at most on a passenger and profit,

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about them giving up the revenue from at

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<v Speaker 2>least a full plane or plane and a half. That is,

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<v Speaker 2>airlines do not make a lot of money on flights.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact is they have each aircraft running, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so many times they have five hundred a thousand departures

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<v Speaker 2>a year, and you add a little bit of profit

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<v Speaker 2>over all of those, and it adds up to some

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<v Speaker 2>significant gains. So this wasn't something that was maybe easy

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<v Speaker 2>for a Last Airlines to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they didn't, anyways, props to Alaska's earning some

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<v Speaker 1>good will off of that one. I doubt they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to repeat that performance. I'm sure they'd much rather say, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>you know there's no guarantee your bag going to arrive

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<v Speaker 1>on time. The bags do get lost, and if you've

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<v Speaker 1>got raw fish in there, we're not paying for it.

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<v Speaker 1>But in any of that, we got.

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<v Speaker 2>Another spacule, products or not, and you're right, goodwilles it

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<v Speaker 2>goes a long way. We had a country singer one

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<v Speaker 2>time that was traveling with his guitar one to take

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<v Speaker 2>it on board, could not. United forced to him him

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<v Speaker 2>to check it and he was screaming, no, did it? Anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>United broke it and they wouldn't fully replace the value

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<v Speaker 2>of the guitar. This guy wrote a song United Breaks Guitars.

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<v Speaker 2>You go to YouTube and look at it, thirty or

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<v Speaker 2>forty million views. Yeah, sometimes doing what's right would prevent

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<v Speaker 2>some of those things from happening. United Breaks Guitars.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good video, that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he names names in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, really good. That's awesome. Now he's going to garner

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of more video views now that you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>on the air jay. Now what about I know the

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<v Speaker 1>airlines are very liberal with their dress codes and policies,

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<v Speaker 1>and men can wear dresses if they're flight attendants and

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<v Speaker 1>all that kind of crap, But I guess you're not

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<v Speaker 1>allowed on a Delta flight with the Donald Trump shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if the Donald Trump shirt is flipping everybody off

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<v Speaker 2>with both hands, yeah, that could be considered offensive. This

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<v Speaker 2>happened in Sarasota, Florida. There's a guy that's wearing this

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<v Speaker 2>image of Donald Trump who's just flipping everybody off with

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<v Speaker 2>two middle fingers up and the Delta agent kind of

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<v Speaker 2>pulled him off to the side said, look, we've had

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<v Speaker 2>some people complaining. They probably hated Trump anyways, it was

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<v Speaker 2>their excuse, but they said, look, you're going to put

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<v Speaker 2>another shirt on, or just turn it inside out until

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<v Speaker 2>the flight's over and then turn it back and we're

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<v Speaker 2>all good. So DELSA was trying to do what they

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<v Speaker 2>should have done, and they were totally within the right here,

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<v Speaker 2>because if I've got a passenger, if I've got a

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<v Speaker 2>is explicit that other passengers could find offensive. No political

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<v Speaker 2>discussion here, but just offensive or not. The airline is

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<v Speaker 2>within their right to say, we're gonna have to ask

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<v Speaker 2>you a change. If you've got a supermodel that's wearing

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<v Speaker 2>a thong bikini, the airline is going to say, you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to put on more clothes, because again, some people

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<v Speaker 2>they find that offensive. If somebody's not taking a bath

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<v Speaker 2>in three months. I'm not saying I would, Brian. If

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<v Speaker 2>somebody's not taking a bath in three months, yeah, people

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<v Speaker 2>could find that offensive. You're not going to get on

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<v Speaker 2>the plane. Somebody's had too much to drink. So it's subjective, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's pretty clear cut that if you are wearing

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<v Speaker 2>some thing that other passengers could take offense at the

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<v Speaker 2>airlines are going to say, look, you know, just let's

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<v Speaker 2>just work with you to try to make something happen.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course he gets off the plane and tweets

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<v Speaker 2>it's a Trump thing. And look, if I'm the Delta

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<v Speaker 2>agent and I had passengers coming to me on that,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have the same discussion with a guy. But

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<v Speaker 2>what happened was he turned it inside out and gets

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<v Speaker 2>on the plane, and then he's on the plane and

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<v Speaker 2>turns the shirt back around, and as they're getting ready

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<v Speaker 2>shut the door of the gate, agencies come on and

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<v Speaker 2>then they get him off the flight and becomes a

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<v Speaker 2>social media viral story. But yeah, again, it's had been

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<v Speaker 2>just a Donald Trump shirt, that's one thing, but this

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<v Speaker 2>was something where it was an offensive image to some.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can certainly see the air now on Delta's

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<v Speaker 2>position here. Airlines certainly lean against the Donald Trump's of

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<v Speaker 2>the world big time. But here I don't think it

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<v Speaker 2>was a bad call.

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<v Speaker 1>Understood. Private company, they can make their own rules. They

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<v Speaker 1>do not have an obligation to honor your First Amendment

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<v Speaker 1>rights of free speech. Moving on, while I was in

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<v Speaker 1>with hubb Delight, So, how's it looking out there in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of our ability to fly today?

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<v Speaker 2>It can be a better day than we had yes yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Text was getting absolutely hammered. We have some minor delays there,

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<v Speaker 2>minor issues towards the northeast, but Ryan, I'm using the

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<v Speaker 2>word minor, so I'm not even gonna mention them. It's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be a good day to fly, and the cooler

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<v Speaker 2>temperature is gonna make it maybe a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable for some people, especially on the ramp. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think all in all of today could be one

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<v Speaker 2>of the better days of the week that we've had

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<v Speaker 2>to fly.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, it's always a better day a week to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you on Thursday, Jay Ratlof I appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>willingness to come on the program every week and enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>our conversations. I'll look forward to next Thursday in another conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course, best of health, loved you and your

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<v Speaker 1>better half.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it, my friend. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Take care eight fifty one fifty five Kcity Talk Station