Speaker 1: Hey, thirty three Friday Eve, It's that time. I always
Speaker 1: look forward to this time on the fifty five Case
Speaker 1: Morning Show because I get to and I'm honored to
Speaker 1: be able to have them on the program. My heart.
Speaker 1: Media aviation expert Jay Ratliff, welcome back, my friend. Love
Speaker 1: having you on the show.
Speaker 2: Hey, the honor and pleasure is mine. Believe me.
Speaker 1: Well, you know I'm going to take you a different direction.
Speaker 1: I got a list. I know what your list is,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean that option for the curveballs. I
Speaker 1: say it was in the status dude with this morning,
Speaker 1: they had to turn another flight around after two hours
Speaker 1: over the Atlantic. Someone I guess got into a bout
Speaker 1: of explosive diarrhea, creating a medical conmergency condition or at
Speaker 1: least a biohazard condition on the plane, requiring them to
Speaker 1: turn around after two hours of flight back to go
Speaker 1: to New York City for an emergency landing. That just
Speaker 1: is just a terrible situation. I don't know how you
Speaker 1: can get around that, though, Well you.
Speaker 2: Can't, but you've got protocols. Because we're dealing with hazardous materials,
Speaker 2: We're dealing with something that is not a disruptive passenger
Speaker 2: from a behavior standpoint, that you can secure in a seat,
Speaker 2: not dutt table, though we used to do that a lot.
Speaker 2: This is something that requires the crew to say, find
Speaker 2: the closest airport, and if you're over the Atlantic and
Speaker 2: the closest airport is the flight airport you took off
Speaker 2: from two hours back, that's exactly what you do. And
Speaker 2: you just you know, everything is handled in a very
Speaker 2: precise way so that they make sure that, you know,
Speaker 2: passengers are impacted as little as possible. Obviously, if you've
Speaker 2: got a flight that's not completely full, the flight attendants
Speaker 2: have a way of moving passengers around to try to
Speaker 2: distance them from whatever areas might be affected. And you know,
Speaker 2: it's a rough situation. But you know, when you look
Speaker 2: at the fact that globally we might have eight million
Speaker 2: people a day flying, and we look at the number
Speaker 2: of these kinds of stories, it's amazing to me that
Speaker 2: more of these types of stories, maybe not this specifically,
Speaker 2: but behavioral stories and people that might pass away on
Speaker 2: a flight or whatever, that we don't have greater numbers
Speaker 2: of those because we would hear about them immediately. Because
Speaker 2: these stories go viral before the plane even lands.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. Welcome to the Internet, Jay Ratliff,
Speaker 1: let's paust one and bring it back. I got one
Speaker 1: more to three direction before we get to the luggage article,
Speaker 1: which is a rather funny story as well. So lightning
Speaker 1: things up as we close out. You ever been in
Speaker 1: a cockpit before? Jay ratlif As, He's an art media
Speaker 1: aviation expert. He's pilot. It's also a savvy investor, no trader, traders.
Speaker 2: Investors the by holding free crowd. That's a friend of
Speaker 2: mine last week told me that ten years ago he
Speaker 2: bought United Airline stock at forty four dollars a year,
Speaker 2: really thrilled at it at the time. Ten years later,
Speaker 2: brand that stock is priced at forty three dollars in
Speaker 2: eighty nine cents a share. He's not made a single penny.
Speaker 2: And I told him in that time, I mean, I've
Speaker 2: used you. I did a couple of times during those
Speaker 2: days to make several thousand dollars in a day. But
Speaker 2: you know what, my students and I do are more
Speaker 2: of a trade traders versus investors. I just wanted to know.
Speaker 1: I know you're right, and I do know that, and
Speaker 1: I should have more properly stated it. Is it right?
Speaker 2: That's okay.
Speaker 1: Day trade fun, isn't it it is?
Speaker 2: Orjratlift dot comments how people around the world. I mean,
Speaker 2: we've got students down in Asia, Europe, South America, all
Speaker 2: over the United States. We have a lot of fun
Speaker 2: and it's as long as they followed the rules. In fact,
Speaker 2: I got an email from a guy this morning in
Speaker 2: pre market. He had twelve percent on one stock. He's
Speaker 2: off to the driving range, going to go play golf
Speaker 2: day over.
Speaker 1: So that's what it's all about.
Speaker 2: Just you take if you follow the rules, yes, but
Speaker 2: if you jump into it and don't know what you're doing,
Speaker 2: it can be horrific. And that's one of the reasons
Speaker 2: you need to learn before you do anything.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you teach people how to just be satisfied with
Speaker 1: the moment, take the money you got and get the
Speaker 1: hell out and be happy with it, because quite often
Speaker 1: in a short period of time you can make a
Speaker 1: week's worth of salar. You just don't want it to
Speaker 1: sit there for a long time and think you're going
Speaker 1: to ride it up a lot higher than wherever you are.
Speaker 2: Anyway, by the way, you and I've talked about that,
Speaker 2: and you can be incredibly good at what you do.
Speaker 1: Yes. You you teach people that all the time. So
Speaker 1: a free plug for you. And I'm happy to be
Speaker 1: able to do that. And I just noticed other drunk
Speaker 1: people on planes. They caused so much problems. We got
Speaker 1: this idiot who has blastered out of his gore to
Speaker 1: try to break into the cockpit of a jet easy
Speaker 1: Jet flight going from London London Gatwick Airport in the UK,
Speaker 1: forcing it, of course to have to divert. He also
Speaker 1: tried to open an exit door. You know, it's people
Speaker 1: like this who are going to end up having alcohol
Speaker 1: prohibited on airplanes. Jay, Well, you know.
Speaker 2: And that comes up because look, we had another alcohol
Speaker 2: related event on American Airlines flight going Milwaukee to Dallas
Speaker 2: had to divert to Tulsa because this was yesterday or
Speaker 2: day before because the guy was vaping on the plane
Speaker 2: even though he shouldn't. Then he started chasing a flight
Speaker 2: attendant around and alcohol was involved here. And I've had
Speaker 2: many people say, Jay, all airlines have to do is
Speaker 2: to be alcohol and then we can elimitate and eliminate
Speaker 2: those problems. Some are saying all airports have to do
Speaker 2: is eliminate alcohol and we can avoid the problems on
Speaker 2: board the plane, because a lot of people will get
Speaker 2: on the plane, you know, with several drinks already consumed.
Speaker 2: The issue with it is, though, and the bottom line remains,
Speaker 2: it's a revenue source for airports as well as it
Speaker 2: is for airlines. And an airline would say to us, look,
Speaker 2: if we have one situation out of two hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty five thousand passengers, right, and they're not super violence situations,
Speaker 2: just things we have to respond to the revenue that
Speaker 2: we can create through this, plus the idea that alcohol
Speaker 2: can help some of our passengers who are anxious flyers.
Speaker 1: That's where I was going a little bit. That's where
Speaker 1: I was going. It would be worse without alcohol because
Speaker 1: everybody who needs a cocktail to get one.
Speaker 2: That on an advertisement, I can promise you that. But
Speaker 2: the bottom line is it's a revenue source and airlines
Speaker 2: are not going to mess with that.
Speaker 1: I understand that all day long. All right, let's go
Speaker 1: over to the luggage. You get a little pro With fishermen.
Speaker 2: We had thirty of them coming back from a very
Speaker 2: successful fishing trip and Brian, they had two thousand pounds
Speaker 2: of freshly caught halib it that was in all of
Speaker 2: their they were probably in the styrofoam containers. That's what
Speaker 2: they tend to do. And you can put up to
Speaker 2: five and a half pounds of dry ice in there
Speaker 2: to keep it from spoiling, and no more than that.
Speaker 2: And remember dry ice is a hazardous material. Can only
Speaker 2: be in check luggage. You can only do it when
Speaker 2: you are in essence, well not check luggage only, but
Speaker 2: the ideas you have to declare it at the checking
Speaker 2: point so that the airlines know that you have it
Speaker 2: and when they check it to make sure it's no
Speaker 2: more than what you have. But the problem here was
Speaker 2: when these thirty fishermen got back from this successful trip
Speaker 2: into Seattle on the last airlines, their bags didn't arrive,
Speaker 2: so last airlines couldn't find the fish. And of course,
Speaker 2: you know some of them are thinking, hey, somebody stole
Speaker 2: our fish. Yeah, you've got you've got crooked agent and
Speaker 2: all this kind of stuff. Well, the dry ice is
Speaker 2: going to buy you about eighteen to twenty four hours
Speaker 2: after that your toast. And believe me, I have removed
Speaker 2: bags off of airplane that have had fish in them
Speaker 2: that were many days delayed. It's just it's horrific. Can't
Speaker 2: get the smell out of your nose forever. And I
Speaker 2: don't know what you do with the clothesing there, but
Speaker 2: these guys finally, the last airline said we located the luggage.
Speaker 2: It shows up days later, and of course all the
Speaker 2: fish is spoiled. So they complain and Alaska Airlines, because
Speaker 2: of their conditions of contract, Brian, they're not required to
Speaker 2: fully reimburse these fishermen. But to Alaska Airlines management credit,
Speaker 2: they said, look, we're going to reimburse you, and we're
Speaker 2: going to get you two thousand pounds freshly caught hal
Speaker 2: of it now thirty six dollars a pound. Holy cow,
Speaker 2: seventy two grand is what it cost them. And when
Speaker 2: you recognize airlines make on ames stick flight a few
Speaker 2: hundred dollars at least at most on a passenger and profit,
Speaker 2: you're talking about them giving up the revenue from at
Speaker 2: least a full plane or plane and a half. That is,
Speaker 2: airlines do not make a lot of money on flights.
Speaker 2: The fact is they have each aircraft running, you know,
Speaker 2: so many times they have five hundred a thousand departures
Speaker 2: a year, and you add a little bit of profit
Speaker 2: over all of those, and it adds up to some
Speaker 2: significant gains. So this wasn't something that was maybe easy
Speaker 2: for a Last Airlines to do.
Speaker 1: And if they didn't, anyways, props to Alaska's earning some
Speaker 1: good will off of that one. I doubt they're going
Speaker 1: to repeat that performance. I'm sure they'd much rather say, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: you know there's no guarantee your bag going to arrive
Speaker 1: on time. The bags do get lost, and if you've
Speaker 1: got raw fish in there, we're not paying for it.
Speaker 1: But in any of that, we got.
Speaker 2: Another spacule, products or not, and you're right, goodwilles it
Speaker 2: goes a long way. We had a country singer one
Speaker 2: time that was traveling with his guitar one to take
Speaker 2: it on board, could not. United forced to him him
Speaker 2: to check it and he was screaming, no, did it? Anyways,
Speaker 2: United broke it and they wouldn't fully replace the value
Speaker 2: of the guitar. This guy wrote a song United Breaks Guitars.
Speaker 2: You go to YouTube and look at it, thirty or
Speaker 2: forty million views. Yeah, sometimes doing what's right would prevent
Speaker 2: some of those things from happening. United Breaks Guitars.
Speaker 1: That's a good video, that's great.
Speaker 2: Well, he names names in it.
Speaker 1: Oh, really good. That's awesome. Now he's going to garner
Speaker 1: a bunch of more video views now that you mentioned
Speaker 1: on the air jay. Now what about I know the
Speaker 1: airlines are very liberal with their dress codes and policies,
Speaker 1: and men can wear dresses if they're flight attendants and
Speaker 1: all that kind of crap, But I guess you're not
Speaker 1: allowed on a Delta flight with the Donald Trump shirt.
Speaker 2: Well, if the Donald Trump shirt is flipping everybody off
Speaker 2: with both hands, yeah, that could be considered offensive. This
Speaker 2: happened in Sarasota, Florida. There's a guy that's wearing this
Speaker 2: image of Donald Trump who's just flipping everybody off with
Speaker 2: two middle fingers up and the Delta agent kind of
Speaker 2: pulled him off to the side said, look, we've had
Speaker 2: some people complaining. They probably hated Trump anyways, it was
Speaker 2: their excuse, but they said, look, you're going to put
Speaker 2: another shirt on, or just turn it inside out until
Speaker 2: the flight's over and then turn it back and we're
Speaker 2: all good. So DELSA was trying to do what they
Speaker 2: should have done, and they were totally within the right here,
Speaker 2: because if I've got a passenger, if I've got a
Speaker 2: shirt that says f you or whatever on there that
Speaker 2: is explicit that other passengers could find offensive. No political
Speaker 2: discussion here, but just offensive or not. The airline is
Speaker 2: within their right to say, we're gonna have to ask
Speaker 2: you a change. If you've got a supermodel that's wearing
Speaker 2: a thong bikini, the airline is going to say, you're
Speaker 2: going to put on more clothes, because again, some people
Speaker 2: they find that offensive. If somebody's not taking a bath
Speaker 2: in three months. I'm not saying I would, Brian. If
Speaker 2: somebody's not taking a bath in three months, yeah, people
Speaker 2: could find that offensive. You're not going to get on
Speaker 2: the plane. Somebody's had too much to drink. So it's subjective, yes,
Speaker 2: but it's pretty clear cut that if you are wearing
Speaker 2: some thing that other passengers could take offense at the
Speaker 2: airlines are going to say, look, you know, just let's
Speaker 2: just work with you to try to make something happen.
Speaker 2: And of course he gets off the plane and tweets
Speaker 2: it's a Trump thing. And look, if I'm the Delta
Speaker 2: agent and I had passengers coming to me on that,
Speaker 2: I would have the same discussion with a guy. But
Speaker 2: what happened was he turned it inside out and gets
Speaker 2: on the plane, and then he's on the plane and
Speaker 2: turns the shirt back around, and as they're getting ready
Speaker 2: shut the door of the gate, agencies come on and
Speaker 2: then they get him off the flight and becomes a
Speaker 2: social media viral story. But yeah, again, it's had been
Speaker 2: just a Donald Trump shirt, that's one thing, but this
Speaker 2: was something where it was an offensive image to some.
Speaker 2: And I can certainly see the air now on Delta's
Speaker 2: position here. Airlines certainly lean against the Donald Trump's of
Speaker 2: the world big time. But here I don't think it
Speaker 2: was a bad call.
Speaker 1: Understood. Private company, they can make their own rules. They
Speaker 1: do not have an obligation to honor your First Amendment
Speaker 1: rights of free speech. Moving on, while I was in
Speaker 1: with hubb Delight, So, how's it looking out there in
Speaker 1: terms of our ability to fly today?
Speaker 2: It can be a better day than we had yes yesterday.
Speaker 2: Text was getting absolutely hammered. We have some minor delays there,
Speaker 2: minor issues towards the northeast, but Ryan, I'm using the
Speaker 2: word minor, so I'm not even gonna mention them. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be a good day to fly, and the cooler
Speaker 2: temperature is gonna make it maybe a little bit more
Speaker 2: comfortable for some people, especially on the ramp. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I think all in all of today could be one
Speaker 2: of the better days of the week that we've had
Speaker 2: to fly.
Speaker 1: All right, it's always a better day a week to
Speaker 1: talk to you on Thursday, Jay Ratlof I appreciate you
Speaker 1: willingness to come on the program every week and enjoy
Speaker 1: our conversations. I'll look forward to next Thursday in another conversation,
Speaker 1: and of course, best of health, loved you and your
Speaker 1: better half.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it, my friend. Thank you.
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