Speaker 1: Doors News Radio seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati, Chip Hard and
Speaker 1: at it again, no time crossed this morning. I'm kind
Speaker 1: of fine. I need to take a little break, you know.
Speaker 1: But he's doing good from him, Yeah, I know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you watch his Facebook page, he's got to take
Speaker 1: he's got to put up a picture every single time
Speaker 1: he's in here.
Speaker 2: But enough of that nonsense. Mike Moore is with me.
Speaker 1: He is the editor of Ohio Outdoor News. Good morning, Michael,
Speaker 1: and I circle back to the last issue of Ohio
Speaker 1: Outdoor News and big fish Man.
Speaker 3: Oh how about that big nine and a half pound
Speaker 3: bass caught by a guy Nakron.
Speaker 2: I'd never even heard of the lake before.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's a it's a popular one up there.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I do all those lake profiles on the back page,
Speaker 3: and I've heard of them Masilla before, and I've done
Speaker 3: I've done stories on it, but I've never been up there,
Speaker 3: never fished it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you know do you recall how big
Speaker 1: that reservoir is? Because we're talking, we're talking a big
Speaker 1: bass for Ohio, you know, something something rarely seen you
Speaker 1: know north of uh Hell, Georgia for that matter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no kidding, is almost nine and a half pounds.
Speaker 3: A guy named Will Loops and he lives up in Akron.
Speaker 4: He caught it. Ne Masilla is a fairly big reservoir.
Speaker 3: Okay, yep, but I'm not sure on the acreage of it,
Speaker 3: but it's it's a big place.
Speaker 4: It's a big one.
Speaker 1: Will assume he's fished it before, but uh, he was not,
Speaker 1: you know, according to according to him, he was not
Speaker 1: a big crank bait guy.
Speaker 3: No, no, And he had never fished this before. He
Speaker 3: had never fished in myself.
Speaker 4: No, no, he had.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. He had fished it, but maybe
Speaker 3: a few times, not very much. And uh buddy buddy
Speaker 3: of his talked him into going Chiff and uh they
Speaker 3: he didn't want to.
Speaker 4: Go because it was cold that day, he said, And
Speaker 4: he said they.
Speaker 3: Knock ice off their their rods and uh but he's sure.
Speaker 3: He sure was glad to be there when he caught
Speaker 3: that big fish.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was back in early April.
Speaker 1: So, uh, you know, I can't Ohio's Ohio's record seems
Speaker 1: to me is like eleven pounds or something like thirteen thirteen. Okay,
Speaker 1: so really you know that, Uh, that's a good way
Speaker 1: from ways from thirteen. But he released it, so that's
Speaker 1: good news and it'll be out there to fight another day.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I thought that was awesome that he did that.
Speaker 3: He he talked about, you know, maybe a kid will
Speaker 3: get interested in fishing, and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, go out there and try to catch that soccer again.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was just kind of going back and reading your
Speaker 1: letters to the editor, which I always find they're they're
Speaker 1: they're definitely fine. So where where's all the I guess
Speaker 1: the issues coming from regarding uh uh, you know, raising
Speaker 1: non resident licenses.
Speaker 2: Obviously been hearing some of that and.
Speaker 1: I hadn't really you know, been hearing much, you know,
Speaker 1: on the street or anything, but apparently people would like
Speaker 1: to see that happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially the residents.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: I've been getting the letters from a lot of residents
Speaker 4: who support it. Now, I did have one resident who
Speaker 4: did not support it. He said it was it was
Speaker 4: too much, too quick.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: And of course the non residents, a couple of them
Speaker 3: have written into and said this is crazy and it's
Speaker 3: it's too high and I can't remember the details on
Speaker 3: the on the what it they're going to boost it too,
Speaker 3: but it was quite a jump chip.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there it is under consideration I guess by
Speaker 1: Divisional Wildlife and the Wildlife Council obviously. Uh and I
Speaker 1: at last, at last blush. You know, I noticed that
Speaker 1: we were pretty close with say, you know, Kentucky or
Speaker 1: Indiana regarding you know, non resident licenses for for Buckeyes
Speaker 1: to purchase. So there's nothing, there's no reason it can't
Speaker 1: be even Stephen you know rec Yeah, yeah, yeah, or
Speaker 1: you know, they they pay what we have to pay
Speaker 1: if we go go there.
Speaker 3: I've had a lot of people suggest that, you know what,
Speaker 3: if I go to Indiana, I should pay you know,
Speaker 3: whatever that is and that and the same thing.
Speaker 4: They come to Ohio they pay what what that is?
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it makes sense, and I think
Speaker 3: I think that's what they'll come to eventually. So we'll
Speaker 3: we'll see how that shakes out.
Speaker 1: Well, sometimes things don't make sense, but they really do.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's always in the eyes of the beholder, you know.
Speaker 1: So let's see, let's see, well, let's circle out. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't have my next issue coming or in my hands.
Speaker 1: When when will we see that? Okay, Saturday morning right now?
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, it's may till next Friday.
Speaker 4: Okay, and we got you know.
Speaker 3: We're talking about what they approved the waterfowl regulations for
Speaker 3: the fall. Yeah, we're talking about spring turkey and the
Speaker 3: fall turkey hunt.
Speaker 4: Chip is another one. We should talk about the fall turkey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, why don't we do that after the break?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm starting to see a little Moore on that,
Speaker 1: and you know, on Facebook, my prime source for news,
Speaker 1: they go there. Actually the only acurate stuff has to
Speaker 1: do with fishing and hunting and the outdoors. Okay, the
Speaker 1: rest of it you could just forget. So, Mike, Mike Moore,
Speaker 1: Editor Ohio Outdoor News, you said tight, We'll be back
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Speaker 1: WLW Cincinnati, Chip Hard. My guest is Mike Moore, editor
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Speaker 2: So, Mike, when.
Speaker 1: We kind of left off, you know, you wanted to
Speaker 1: get into the the fall turkey season, and I am
Speaker 1: seeing more comments in social media about the Ohio fall season.
Speaker 1: You know, quite personally, you know, I think they should
Speaker 1: just scrap it. I mean, they don't shoot that many birds.
Speaker 1: But you're seeing the comments, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And it's scheduled from October twenty four October first,
Speaker 3: October twenty six this fall. But there were some Ohio
Speaker 3: Wildlife Council members who voted against even having a season.
Speaker 3: Oh so yeah, so they you know, they they don't
Speaker 3: want they killing turkeys of either sex in the fall.
Speaker 4: They don't want to do that.
Speaker 3: They want to if they do have a season, they
Speaker 3: want to spare the hens and think I think it
Speaker 3: makes sense, you know, but we'll see.
Speaker 4: How that goes. There's a lot of states dealing with
Speaker 4: that right now.
Speaker 1: Well, depending on where you are in Ohio, some of
Speaker 1: the popular can be can look pretty lean, some for
Speaker 1: some some for obvious reasons. Others there's just you've got uh,
Speaker 1: you know, an onslaught of bobcats and coyotes and and things,
Speaker 1: you know, things like that impacting it. And we'll see
Speaker 1: what the hatch rate is going to be this spring
Speaker 1: based on all the rain we've had. But uh, you know,
Speaker 1: they only kill a thousand birds, right right, it's somewhere
Speaker 1: around there.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Sometimes it's not even a thousand. It's it's a
Speaker 4: very low number.
Speaker 3: And one of the council members pointed out that it's
Speaker 3: mostly deer hunters. Yeah, that just opportunity arises and they
Speaker 3: kill a turkey.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's absolutely bow hunting, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, bow hunters exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they kill less than a thousand, and but
Speaker 3: I don't know that it makes sense to have hens
Speaker 3: in it.
Speaker 4: I never understood.
Speaker 2: No, I I never did either.
Speaker 1: I mean no, I mean, that's that's that's the breeding stock,
Speaker 1: so to speak.
Speaker 2: There's no ja seriously.
Speaker 1: So how about the next issue, you guys touching on
Speaker 1: the guide certification?
Speaker 4: Yes, good, yes, we thanks to you, Chip. We got
Speaker 4: on that and the Angelo that you had on the
Speaker 4: show last week.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh and uh what about that? What do you think
Speaker 3: about that? Voluntary?
Speaker 1: I well, you know, I understand that the lake Erie
Speaker 1: Guide uh you know certification uh uh started voluntary, but
Speaker 1: it's now mandatory. I was involved in a couple of
Speaker 1: the early focus group meetings before COVID, and then those
Speaker 1: had to go away. Uh, and then it kind of
Speaker 1: just uh, I guess you want to call metastasized while
Speaker 1: we were on you know, on and around other things
Speaker 1: and lo and behold, and I stayed in touch with
Speaker 1: wildlife and I participated as a landowner okay, and not
Speaker 1: my capacity here because I had certain experience is that
Speaker 1: needed to be addressed.
Speaker 2: So I think it's fantastic.
Speaker 1: I think it'll go mandatory at some point, maybe two
Speaker 1: years down the line.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: But they're all things, you know, in terms of the
Speaker 1: qualifications that that really needed to be addressed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a great thing to uh. Like
Speaker 4: you said, I do expect it to be mandatory at
Speaker 4: some point because they've.
Speaker 3: Gotta they gotta get a rain on some of these outfitters,
Speaker 3: and we're getting more and more every year.
Speaker 4: And you guys in southern Ohio know that bad than anybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it because of the way too, because of
Speaker 1: the white tails, you know, the big the big white tails,
Speaker 1: you know. And that that focus group had members of
Speaker 1: the outfitting community that were in favor of it because
Speaker 1: it weeds out the bad apples.
Speaker 4: So yes, and that makes a lot of sense, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting here, I just got my Wildlife Reports
Speaker 1: Field Reports. You probably got it too, And this is
Speaker 1: the recent one in southeast Ohio. You had a guy
Speaker 1: that was guiding another hunter for turkey and and the
Speaker 1: client was properly licensed, but the guide did not have
Speaker 1: a ballot hunting license or you know, or a spring
Speaker 1: turkey pyermit. So, oh my god, so the get the
Speaker 1: defendant pleaded guilty in Pike County for for hunting without
Speaker 1: a ballid hunting license and hunting turkeys without a permit.
Speaker 3: Gee.
Speaker 1: How coincidentally, how often do you think that happens?
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exactly. I think you know, it probably happens
Speaker 3: a lot. And these guys they need to crack down,
Speaker 3: I think. And I have not experienced a bad, you know,
Speaker 3: a bad situation with outfitters.
Speaker 4: I've never used one. I never used an outfitter or yeah.
Speaker 1: Or or had them set up shop next to you.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm gonna send you a commentary article,
Speaker 1: uh for your consideration, okay from landowner point of view?
Speaker 2: So how best I'd love to have that for How
Speaker 2: best for.
Speaker 1: People to uh get a subscription and more on Ohio Outdoor.
Speaker 3: New outdoornews dot com, backslash Ohio.
Speaker 4: And it's really real simple.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, people, if you're a resident or non resident.
Speaker 2: It's a great publication to have.
Speaker 1: So ay, Mike, thanks a lot for this morning, and
Speaker 1: we'll stay in touch.
Speaker 4: Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Ship all right with that hitting a break, Shipart The
Speaker 1: Big Outdoors News Radio seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati Back in
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Speaker 1: with Gary Jeff and after that we get a little
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Speaker 2: That's all there is.
Speaker 1: You know, sports, Gerbil, they're an eccentric bunch.
Speaker 2: I really got to tell you that. So a big
Speaker 2: coincidence happened to me.
Speaker 1: You may or may not care, but I'm sitting at
Speaker 1: the kitchen, okay, and my wife has a book on
Speaker 1: the table called sixty Hikes sixty miles around the Greater
Speaker 1: Cincinnati area, which includes southwest Ohio, northern Kentucky, and southern Indiana.
Speaker 1: And I look, I look at the h the author's name.
Speaker 1: I'm going Tammy York. I know that name. I'll be damned, Okay,
Speaker 1: came from a different place in time, back in back
Speaker 1: in the day. She started with the Indiana Department and
Speaker 1: Antwer Resources and Communications, and then came over to Ohio,
Speaker 1: which is where I met her with the Ohio Divisional
Speaker 1: Wildlife and Tammy Welcome to the Big Outdoors. And I
Speaker 1: got to tell you what I thumbed through it. It's
Speaker 1: a hell of a book. I you know, if I
Speaker 1: hike in the woods, it's to shed hunt or you know,
Speaker 1: or for burrell mushrooms or critters, which my kids still
Speaker 1: like to do, you know. But I mean this is
Speaker 1: kind of this is for everybody, right, Yeah.
Speaker 6: I wrote the book with the idea that I would
Speaker 6: be comfortable sending a mom with two kids on any
Speaker 6: of the hikes, and that there would be some challenges too.
Speaker 6: So the people who are more experienced hiking there would
Speaker 6: be hikes that would give them a challenge, and the
Speaker 6: people who were brand new to hiking there would be
Speaker 6: hikes successful to them that they would be able to
Speaker 6: go and enjoy as well.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean, now I do like the bird watch,
Speaker 1: but typically I might be squirrel hunting or something like that.
Speaker 2: But I mean that's a whole big uh.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a whole big field into it, you know,
Speaker 1: into itself, and southern Ohio can be some you know,
Speaker 1: darn good bird watching because of the Ohio Valley and
Speaker 1: your migration and things like that.
Speaker 2: And so the what was it the Okay, the impetus
Speaker 2: was what.
Speaker 5: We know who it's for, But what was the empathis
Speaker 5: to get more people outdoors, because there's so many benefits
Speaker 5: to being outside, and there's so many benefits to just
Speaker 5: touching grass.
Speaker 2: So to speak.
Speaker 6: And to make it so it was easier for people
Speaker 6: to get outdoors. There seems to be for people who
Speaker 6: aren't like us who grew up outside, there seems to
Speaker 6: be kind of almost like a barrier, like a fear
Speaker 6: category to it. You know, it's the little Red riding Hood,
Speaker 6: the wolf in the woods type idea that it's scary
Speaker 6: and it's something to kind of be fearful of. And
Speaker 6: it was to remove that fear from it, to give
Speaker 6: them as much information as I could about what they're
Speaker 6: going to expect on the hike, about how long it is,
Speaker 6: how strenuous it's going to be, where it's located at,
Speaker 6: what they're going to see along the trail, any of
Speaker 6: the history along the trail. Both Man made history, geological history,
Speaker 6: flora fauna history as much detail as I could give them,
Speaker 6: So it took away that fear factor and made it
Speaker 6: easy for them to go hike so that they could
Speaker 6: get some of the joy that we get from being outdoors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, we have some great I guess
Speaker 1: partners in the outdoors out there, whether it's the you know,
Speaker 1: Great Park District or odn R or uh you know,
Speaker 1: private organizations that you know have property for hikes. I
Speaker 1: mean there there, I mean there's really a lot and
Speaker 1: you could spend a year just you know, across this
Speaker 1: part of the state.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's something that's really nice about the Cincinnati area
Speaker 6: is that, you know, we're right in the center point
Speaker 6: the eye, so to speak of you know, Indiana, Kentucky,
Speaker 6: and Ohio. So you have a lot of variety in
Speaker 6: the hikes. There's a lot of geological variety and where
Speaker 6: you can go hike. You know, if you go over
Speaker 6: to Addams County, you've got the Zercees Prairie, if you
Speaker 6: go down into Kentucky you have conglomerate cliffs that you
Speaker 6: get with the area like around dinsmore So, there's just
Speaker 6: so much variety, and it's it's just quite the adventure
Speaker 6: because depending on what type of habitat you want to
Speaker 6: see or what type of hike you want to do,
Speaker 6: there is something within range.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can go as you know, Okay, I
Speaker 1: want flat land okay, or I want a little more topography,
Speaker 1: and uh, you don't really need to have to do
Speaker 1: what we've got. You don't need a big you know,
Speaker 1: a huge skill level, or a lot of equipment or
Speaker 1: you know, anything like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, a good curtain of shoes will get you a
Speaker 6: long way on hiking, especially around this area. We're not
Speaker 6: going to be you know, for the most part, unless
Speaker 6: you're doing like some of the backpacking trails, you're going
Speaker 6: to be able to get away with a good puritin
Speaker 6: is shoes and good pair of socks. I would say,
Speaker 6: like if somebody's getting started hiking, that's what you need
Speaker 6: is tenis shoes that have a good grip to the
Speaker 6: bottom of the rest of the stuff you could add
Speaker 6: on as you go along, but that's really what you're
Speaker 6: going to start at is.
Speaker 4: At your feet.
Speaker 6: You know, you can do tills and wow, that's not
Speaker 6: a good it's still you can go hiking in a
Speaker 6: T shirt.
Speaker 1: All right, how's the best way to get sixty hikes
Speaker 1: sixty miles? I know Amazon looks like you know, it
Speaker 1: runs about sixteen seventeen dollars, so I mean there's all
Speaker 1: kinds topics.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Amazon, ARII, Rose, Rivers and Trails carries it. Yeah,
Speaker 6: so a lot of the outdoor retailers, Benchmark carries it.
Speaker 6: In the Cinititi area. We'll have the book in stock
Speaker 6: and then of course you can order it online both
Speaker 6: through Amazon and through my publisher, which.
Speaker 2: Is Key Bright Tammy York.
Speaker 1: Thanks for the time this morning, and that's fantastic, great
Speaker 1: catch it.
Speaker 2: Up you dood bye, Thank you.
Speaker 1: The big outdoors hitting the break news Radio seven hundred
Speaker 1: WLW Cincinnati back in a moment. See Turkey season in
Speaker 1: Ohio ends tomorrow. But let's see the harvest or kill
Speaker 1: so far as of May eleventh is thirteen and twenty
Speaker 1: eight birds, which let's see, we're not close to where
Speaker 1: we were last year, but which was fourteen thousand, three
Speaker 1: hundred and some chain, so we're close.
Speaker 2: We could hit that. I know.
Speaker 1: Absolutely positive the hands are on the nest, that is
Speaker 1: a for sure. So we'll just hope that the hatch
Speaker 1: is really strong this year, and this out of New Jersey.
Speaker 1: According to Outdoor Life, one Brian Melvin was fifteen feet
Speaker 1: high in a climbing tree stand holding his seventy two pound,
Speaker 1: seventy two pound bow, which had to be a typo.
Speaker 1: It was probably a twelve pound bow. He's waiting for
Speaker 1: a huge BlackBerry. Knew was in the area, and he
Speaker 1: took a massive seven hundred and seventy pound record black
Speaker 1: bear in New Jersey. And you would think New Jersey, okay,
Speaker 1: the sopranos, okay, smog all that kind of stuff. But no, sirree,
Speaker 1: they have a black bear population over there. But kind
Speaker 1: of interested what kind of bow he actually had because
Speaker 1: it wasn't seventy two pounds. You couldn't even get up
Speaker 1: a damn tree with that thing, much less pull it
Speaker 1: up with a rope or pull it back. So Danny
Speaker 1: get me out of here.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Gary Teffan's next The Big Outdoors News Radio seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati.
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