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<v Speaker 6>A.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Projection Booth. I'm your host, Mike White,

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<v Speaker 1>join me once again as mister Rob Saint Mary. I

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<v Speaker 1>give the Bolsheviks a year two with the most Also

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<v Speaker 1>back in the booth is mister Philip Marinello.

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<v Speaker 8>You said we'd always choose dads together.

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<v Speaker 1>We are kicking off Cheptember twenty twenty five with cozy Dents. However,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no fiddle faddle here. Also known as Palishki, it

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<v Speaker 1>is based on a book called Why Do I Do

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<v Speaker 1>This to Myself?

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<v Speaker 1>It's based on a book called joven no hori, which

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<v Speaker 1>translates as the very simple title shit on Fire. Directed

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<v Speaker 1>by Jan Erbecht and written by Peter Jarchowski, the film

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<v Speaker 1>is a bittersweet coming of age tales set in the

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<v Speaker 1>months from Christmas nineteen sixty seven up to the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty eight Prague Spring, which, if you weren't paying attention,

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<v Speaker 1>that was January fifth, nineteen sixty eight. We will be

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<v Speaker 1>spoiling this film as we go along, so if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want anything ruined, turn off the podcast and come

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<v Speaker 1>on back after you've seen the film, we will still

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<v Speaker 1>be here. So Rob, you were actually the one who

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<v Speaker 1>brought this film to my attention. When did you first

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<v Speaker 4>It was about two years ago around this time of year,

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<v Speaker 4>so August September, and I have a friend of mine

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<v Speaker 4>in Prague.

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<v Speaker 7>He always had this.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, anyone wants to come visit. I got extra bedroom.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, I raised aunt. So I got to

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<v Speaker 4>spend ten days in Prague, who was lovely and just

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<v Speaker 4>had a really wonderful time there. And as part of that,

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<v Speaker 4>my friend Rick was showing me some movies. He's watched

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<v Speaker 4>some check film. He's an American and he doesn't speak

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<v Speaker 4>the language, he knows the culture. He traveled there when

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<v Speaker 4>he was a kid. He's got friends and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 4>and he went there to go work with an artist

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<v Speaker 4>originally who's pretty well known. But anyway, so we watched

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<v Speaker 4>closely watch Trains, which I believe I had seen before

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<v Speaker 4>and I think you've done on the show. And then

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<v Speaker 4>he watched showed me this movie. Now what was funny

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<v Speaker 4>is when he showed me this movie. The next day

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<v Speaker 4>we went to go visit some of his friends and

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<v Speaker 4>they're like, why are you showing him Christmas movie. They're like,

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<v Speaker 4>that's like the progue national Christmas movie, Like it's August

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<v Speaker 4>tell you doing. And so because of the Christmas themes,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, as we get into it, and if you

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<v Speaker 4>get a chance to see it, you'll understand why that is,

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<v Speaker 4>because half the film is takes place in Christmas time.

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<v Speaker 4>And so this has become looking at letterbox, I'm on

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<v Speaker 4>letterbox now and looked at the reviews for this, and

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<v Speaker 4>most of them are in Check. But there's those who

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<v Speaker 4>and they say, yeah, this is just a holiday classical.

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<v Speaker 7>Family gets together and watches this, which.

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<v Speaker 4>Is really interesting when you consider that the movie kind

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<v Speaker 4>of jokes about suicide three times, to which my friend

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<v Speaker 4>Rick would say, you know what, the check they have

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<v Speaker 4>a really dark sense of humor, and they do, but

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<v Speaker 4>in a way, this one is kind of light. And

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<v Speaker 1>And Philip, was this a new one for you?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, this was absolutely a new one. I was telling

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<v Speaker 8>you before I recorded as a long Time Projection booth listener.

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<v Speaker 8>I have added many chick films to my watch list

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<v Speaker 8>over the years, but I've never watched along. Some are

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<v Speaker 8>harder to find than others, but I just never had before.

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<v Speaker 8>So when you're like, hey, this is what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 8>I went into it relatively blind. I knew that it

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<v Speaker 8>was about families over a holiday, but that's about it.

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<v Speaker 8>And I loved it. This was quite a discovery.

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<v Speaker 1>This was also a new one for me, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that you brought this to my attention.

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<v Speaker 3>Rob.

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<v Speaker 1>I really was not familiar with the writer, not familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with the director. They I think had aired up a

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<v Speaker 1>few times and also adapted another one of the author's stories.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say for an earlier film. I now

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<v Speaker 1>need to go back and see some of these other things.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can see why this is a holiday classic,

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<v Speaker 1>not just because it's set at the holiday time, right

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<v Speaker 1>at this very critical moment, but also it reminds me

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of a Christmas story. It reminds me of

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of vignettes strung together. We don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a narrator, we don't have that what was the guy's

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<v Speaker 1>name that the gene shepherd that did those.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a minute since I've seen a Christmas story,

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<v Speaker 1>but I used to watch that ever Christmas pretty religiously,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can see watching a movie like this because

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<v Speaker 1>it has that same flavor of dysfunction amongst the family.

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<v Speaker 1>But with this one, you've got a few families and

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<v Speaker 1>just seeing the dysfunction amongst them, and how everyone interacts

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<v Speaker 1>or doesn't interact, who hates each other, who gets along,

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<v Speaker 1>how things change, alliances move, because not only do you

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<v Speaker 1>have the family aspect, but then you've got the political

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<v Speaker 1>aspect as well. Who's going to come out on top,

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<v Speaker 1>who's on the bottom. Like you said, I give the

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<v Speaker 1>Bolsheviks one year, maybe two tops. And this is right

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<v Speaker 1>before the tanks roll in, and we actually have the

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<v Speaker 1>scenes of not necessarily seeing the tanks, but hearing the

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<v Speaker 1>air raid sirens and all these things, and just shit

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<v Speaker 1>gets real.

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<v Speaker 3>Real at the end of this, And yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>real eye opener.

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<v Speaker 8>For me and Mary Christmas, God bless us everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing is, there is a narrator. There's a little

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<v Speaker 7>If I take it, it's the kid.

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<v Speaker 4>And like I said that, I have a problem with

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<v Speaker 4>the names of the characters. I just say that the

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<v Speaker 4>one boy who's the boy in the communist family who

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<v Speaker 4>in the very first scene is trying to hang himself

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<v Speaker 4>our protagon. Yeah, and so you get the feeling that

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<v Speaker 4>everything is viewed through his lens and because he's oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I was almost sixteen when this happened, and that really

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<v Speaker 4>you only get him voiceovering in the very beginning of

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<v Speaker 7>That's it.

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<v Speaker 4>There's not all this commentary through the rest. And then

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<v Speaker 4>there's really only one other scene that I can think

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<v Speaker 4>of off the top of my head where we get

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<v Speaker 4>his interiority, where it's this is what he's feeling or

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<v Speaker 4>thinking in the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, oh god, I know exactly what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of like that because one of the things

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<v Speaker 4>that we often talk about is and voiceover can be good.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a big fan of when I know we've debated

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<v Speaker 4>this and go back and listen to the Blade Runner episode,

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<v Speaker 4>I really like the voiceover Blade Runners. But a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of times a voiceover in a movie is a crutch.

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<v Speaker 7>It's I don't know exactly what they do. So we're

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<v Speaker 7>going to tie it all together with a voiceover.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to clarify, I was not the one who doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>like the voiceover in Blade Runner, so it was our

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<v Speaker 1>third person who I believe doesn't like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Sushi cold fish. That's why my wife always

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<v Speaker 1>calls me. That's a classic.

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<v Speaker 4>The other thing that's interesting in here, and I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if I think Mike, obviously you may have a

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<v Speaker 4>little historical background. Philip, I'm not sure about your historical background.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how much you need to know about

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<v Speaker 4>check as the area, yeah, or the prog spring. I

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<v Speaker 4>think it adds. There's a scene later I'll talk about that.

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<v Speaker 4>It really adds if you get it. But as long

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<v Speaker 4>as you understand they're under communism, they're under socialism, that's

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<v Speaker 4>really all I think you really need to know. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think it really goes that far in depth. They

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<v Speaker 4>and of course the audience they're expecting you're going to

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<v Speaker 4>bring that anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>The first blush too, I mentioned a Christmas story. The

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<v Speaker 1>other thing this really reminded me of was better Off

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<v Speaker 1>Dead with that suicide attempt at the beginning, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even a little bit of Harold and Maud when he's

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<v Speaker 1>laying in bed and his sister's coming in, like lifting

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<v Speaker 1>his arm up and it keeps flopping down, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he eventually sneaks up on her and scares her half

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<v Speaker 1>to death. But yeah, it's got that great dark humor

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<v Speaker 1>that I love so much.

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<v Speaker 8>It was so funny, Like I can see why this

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<v Speaker 8>would be a regular and if there was a good

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<v Speaker 8>addition around. I don't know if i'd watch this every year,

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<v Speaker 8>but I'd watch this. This would be such a fun

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<v Speaker 8>movie to have people or be like, hey, let me

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<v Speaker 8>introduce you to something, because I'm sure, like in Letterbox

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<v Speaker 8>only not that many people have seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really confused when it came to the name

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<v Speaker 1>of this movie being calling Cozy Dends because it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>in English title. I did not know that because cozy

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<v Speaker 1>in this case is spelled cos y, so we've got

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<v Speaker 1>the English spelling of cozy. So for me as an American,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, cozy, coz y. So when I see

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<v Speaker 1>Cozy Den's, I'm just like, oh, Cozy Dens, like putting

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<v Speaker 8>I thought it was a foreign title too. It's like,

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<v Speaker 8>all right, whatever, I'm not sure what this means, but okay, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Like shit on fire. Shit on fire would be good.

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<v Speaker 4>I think maybe that would cross over and be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>shit on fire?

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<v Speaker 8>Was that on fire?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, sign me up for that movie. Two tickets please.

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<v Speaker 4>But when you talk about cozy dens, it makes sense

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<v Speaker 4>because most of it takes place in one building. I

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<v Speaker 4>And then there's the guy who's body in his family,

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<v Speaker 4>Especially those guys, the fathers and those two households, they

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<v Speaker 4>And there's a lot of really like beautiful set pieces

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<v Speaker 4>the crossover between the three because it's like they're each

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<v Speaker 4>having a Chris Missus demial and they cut back between

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<v Speaker 4>and that's why I really loved it is I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>like it's just really well done. It's like really well

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<v Speaker 4>written and acted and directed, and it's so for me,

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<v Speaker 4>it just really comes together really nicely.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, the relationships, like everything felt so like universal, like

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<v Speaker 8>you can show anybody of this. It's not i don't know,

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<v Speaker 8>like ten and up, Like it's pretty there's a very

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<v Speaker 8>small amount of profanity, but there's the full spectrum of life,

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<v Speaker 8>like you've got kids who've got parents who got middle aged,

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<v Speaker 8>like all the single mom stuff like hilarious and heartbreaking,

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<v Speaker 8>her trying over and over to find somebody, either finding

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<v Speaker 8>weirdos or being sabotaged by her son, like that scene

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<v Speaker 8>where he puts on the record player like that killed me.

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<v Speaker 8>But it also gets funny, but it's also really sad,

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<v Speaker 8>and it's sad for everybody involved, Like this woman is

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<v Speaker 8>in that scene that guy was trying, like not a

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<v Speaker 8>you've got the love triangle with the young people, and

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<v Speaker 8>you've got as a movie with movies featured well in it,

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<v Speaker 8>the cinema that he has that the whole like square

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<v Speaker 8>of people come out to watch him project on the sheet.

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<v Speaker 8>There were so many beautiful and universal moments in this.

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<v Speaker 8>I feel like this be watchable at any time. Obviously

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<v Speaker 8>it's a great Christmas movie, but this is immensely watchable

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<v Speaker 8>I think at any time.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole influence of the West, with the like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>the McJagger poster, all the needle drops in this. It's

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<v Speaker 1>got a fantastic soundtrack and that I found pretty easy.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a website called I Think It's Super Fun, and

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<v Speaker 1>music from some of these movies, which is great and

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<v Speaker 1>pretty reasonably priced too, as long as I'm figuring out

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<v Speaker 1>my international exchange rate.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting I mentioned how these guys had worked

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<v Speaker 1>together before, the writer, director, and then even the novelist

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<v Speaker 1>who was alive at the time that this was made.

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<v Speaker 1>The novelist was the three of them. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how many times they worked together, but they had worked

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<v Speaker 1>together on a film from ninety three called Sakka le Leta,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is a musical comedy. So it's in the

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<v Speaker 1>fifties and just the changing face of the times.

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<v Speaker 3>With the whole rock and roll thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, the needle drops in this and all of

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<v Speaker 1>the musical moments in this are just fantastic and some

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<v Speaker 1>great songs. I really appreciated that they were not just

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<v Speaker 1>using Western songs that had made it through the Iron Curtain.

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<v Speaker 1>These were actual real people from the time. This was

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<v Speaker 1>almost a little American graffiti esque. When it came to

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<v Speaker 4>And this is where if you understand a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>of history it's helpful, is that you know, Czechoslovakia was

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<v Speaker 4>kind of left alone. He had a little bit of openness.

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<v Speaker 4>It could run its own affairs as well as it

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<v Speaker 4>could go so far but not too far. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>what happened with the Prugu Spring was it was finally

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<v Speaker 4>like Russia was like, no, y'all gone too far, and

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<v Speaker 4>then that's why they rolled the tanks in. So the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that it is a little bit looser and hipper

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<v Speaker 4>and feels a little more quote unquote West than maybe

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<v Speaker 4>what you might be used to for living under communist

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<v Speaker 4>movies from the East, I think it gives a perspective

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<v Speaker 4>for Americans who don't understand or maybe would like to

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<v Speaker 4>learn more. Not to say it's a documentary, there's historical

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<v Speaker 4>aspects in there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's nice. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>I think American graffiti is actually a really great parallel

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<v Speaker 8>for it, where it's like it's a place in time

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<v Speaker 8>and then just people bumping into each other living life

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<v Speaker 8>like vignettes like in a movie like that really is timeless.

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<v Speaker 8>Each person has their own arc and many of them

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<v Speaker 8>are fulfilling, but there's just really great lines. I don't

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<v Speaker 8>know how accurate the subtitles were that I saw, but

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<v Speaker 8>I laughed several times, like good, well written jokes and

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<v Speaker 8>really good delivery.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a good parallel I hadn't thought of because in

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<v Speaker 4>a way, American graffiti is using Vietnam as the catastrophe.

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<v Speaker 7>It's gonna pull people apart.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's like the change in time and how the

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<v Speaker 8>change in culture also impacts people going through life.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's really what the prug Spring ended up doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Was it ended up being after that clamped down, and

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<v Speaker 4>you have to get to nineteen eighty nine, the early

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<v Speaker 4>nineties before all of this finally breaks apart and they

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<v Speaker 4>get back to where they were in that period right

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<v Speaker 4>before this. So there's like a twenty year period of

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<v Speaker 4>darkness that kind of follows right after this. So in

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<v Speaker 4>a way, like you were saying, that's very stupid, makes

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<v Speaker 7>I read it that way.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, probably were not playing John Wayne movies in public

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<v Speaker 8>during that time.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, and when it comes to the chickness of it,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there are definitely some very check things. And

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<v Speaker 1>here the whole thing with the carp and the bathtub,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember watching the Cremator, and I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like, what is this thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is Copper can go like going out and getting

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<v Speaker 1>this Pike or sorry Pike.

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking of Psycho Pike.

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<v Speaker 8>You've been in fact, I've been infected by the fights.

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<v Speaker 7>We've gone from Psycho Pike to Christmas carp So there

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<v Speaker 7>you go.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, he would he had this pike in his

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<v Speaker 1>bathtub and I was just like, what is this whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing is? Oh, it's the Christmas meal.

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<v Speaker 7>And then I like this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a few jokes that play into this whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>of said an.

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<v Speaker 4>Uncle, like the father and the uncle that the two brothers.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, so he is back.

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<v Speaker 8>And forth was hilario. When we first saw the fish,

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<v Speaker 8>I thought, I was like, is he hallucinating? What is this?

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<v Speaker 8>I'm I am not a check a fishinado? And I

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<v Speaker 8>was like, oh, is he did he? Is he like

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<v Speaker 8>having a hallucination? Did he pass out underwater? Is this

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<v Speaker 8>fish gonna talk?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 8>I had no idea what was happening.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know that either, like I said, until I

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<v Speaker 4>watched the movie, and then I like, I said. My

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<v Speaker 4>friend Rick, who lives in Czech Public explained to me,

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<v Speaker 4>he goes, it's a Christmas tradition, that's the old Christmas tradition.

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<v Speaker 4>And what it was is they would take they would

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<v Speaker 4>catch a pike, now like a car a carb. Carp, yes, pike, yeah, carp.

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<v Speaker 4>Pikes and carbs are off in bottom feeders anyway, So anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>they take the carp and they put it in the

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<v Speaker 4>bathtub for a few days. Now, the reason for this

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<v Speaker 4>is that it's supposed to clean out the fish because

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<v Speaker 4>usually they're gritty because they're down there feeding among the MUCKs.

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<v Speaker 4>So they say it helps it to taste better. So

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<v Speaker 4>that'sthom for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, inside and out.

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<v Speaker 4>But the brothers, so the one is the father of

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<v Speaker 4>the narrator, who is the guy who's I guess he's

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<v Speaker 4>a commissar or something and he's something in the Communist party,

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<v Speaker 4>is what you get. And his brother, who doesn't agree

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<v Speaker 4>with him, just are at each other. So like the

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<v Speaker 4>brother and the mother that comes over, so the grandmother

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<v Speaker 4>of the boy, and he also has a little sister,

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<v Speaker 4>so like the whole family. And then it's like the

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<v Speaker 4>two men in the room, they're just at each other

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<v Speaker 4>to just constantly trying.

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<v Speaker 7>To one up some oh, I know this, and I

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<v Speaker 7>know that, oh do you? And then it's oh, you

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<v Speaker 7>can't do this, and it's just.

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<v Speaker 4>Ridiculous, and the mother is that the grandmother is, oh, God,

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<v Speaker 4>come on, guys, don't do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they get to do this whole thing about

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<v Speaker 1>holding their breath, and then that ends up with him

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<v Speaker 1>in that bathtub holding his breath underwater because he would

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<v Speaker 1>be cheating otherwise seeing that carp and then it's the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing. If that carp is here, what were we

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<v Speaker 1>just eating? And then finding out that the dad is

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<v Speaker 8>Well, and I also love the payoff of like bickering,

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<v Speaker 8>like sibling rivalry. Of the original bet was hey, like

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<v Speaker 8>up to sixty seconds, I owe you if you can

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<v Speaker 8>hold your breath for over a minute, like I'll pay

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<v Speaker 8>you whatever per second, and after the whole thing is out,

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<v Speaker 8>sixty one seconds, I owe you one. So like he

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<v Speaker 8>put him through this whole ordeal and then like he

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<v Speaker 8>gave him like the smallest amount possible. I thought that

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<v Speaker 4>All these characters are very at times you're like, oh, God,

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<v Speaker 4>really gotta be that way. But that father character, the

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<v Speaker 4>I really love him because he's such a believer, like

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<v Speaker 4>he wants to believe, Like the whole scene with the glasses,

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<v Speaker 4>So he gives the wife this box full of unbreakable GLAMs.

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<v Speaker 7>He's like, we've done it.

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<v Speaker 1>He is so all about that technology that we have

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<v Speaker 1>here in Europe. Fucked those Americans.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's we've done it. We're one up on them.

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<v Speaker 4>We've made these unbreakable glasses. And the kid throws it

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<v Speaker 4>and it shatters, because of course they're unbreakable to a point.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, and then later in the movie, there's a

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<v Speaker 4>whole thing with the spoons, which is the poster art

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<v Speaker 4>for the movie. They're these spoons, and he gives everyone

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<v Speaker 4>these spoons and he says, oh, this is great, great

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<v Speaker 4>socialist technology.

425
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<v Speaker 7>And they put the.

426
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<v Speaker 4>Spoon in their tea or their coffee, and they're just

427
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<v Speaker 4>like disintegrates and melts. And that's what In the end,

428
00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:46.319
<v Speaker 4>there's this his arc is. It's just like he wants

429
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<v Speaker 4>to believe in this what he wants to say. It

430
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<v Speaker 4>may not be a perfect system, but I believe in it.

431
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<v Speaker 4>I care about it, and and I want my kids

432
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<v Speaker 4>to grow up in it, and I want good things.

433
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<v Speaker 7>Out of it. And so he's bought in. He's really

434
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<v Speaker 7>bought in, and.

435
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<v Speaker 4>There's a part of me that just I know he's

436
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<v Speaker 4>a little deluded, but I just want to give hi

437
00:24:06.039 --> 00:24:09.920
<v Speaker 4>a hug. I'm like, sorry, dude, Okay, I can see

438
00:24:09.960 --> 00:24:11.480
<v Speaker 4>your I can see you're a good guy.

439
00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:12.440
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

440
00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:15.599
<v Speaker 1>Like you said, these characters are all they're like little

441
00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:18.720
<v Speaker 1>thumbnails of these people, but you feel like you know

442
00:24:18.920 --> 00:24:22.720
<v Speaker 1>them so well by the end of this, and you,

443
00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:24.960
<v Speaker 1>just like you said, you want to give him a hug.

444
00:24:25.039 --> 00:24:27.880
<v Speaker 1>You love all of these guys, even the cantankerous guy

445
00:24:28.200 --> 00:24:32.680
<v Speaker 1>who loves those dumplings so much. But when they're explaining

446
00:24:32.799 --> 00:24:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Yoki and he's just getting so mad every time she

447
00:24:35.480 --> 00:24:36.519
<v Speaker 1>says Yoki.

448
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<v Speaker 4>Here, and with him too, it's and you get the

449
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<v Speaker 4>feeling with all of them that it's like they've all

450
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<v Speaker 4>been through something, and especially him, like when he's pushed

451
00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:46.480
<v Speaker 4>far enough, he'll fucking tell you he's I was in

452
00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:49.279
<v Speaker 4>a camp, like the fucking Nazis tortured me.

453
00:24:50.759 --> 00:24:51.519
<v Speaker 7>I wrote that line.

454
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<v Speaker 8>Now he says, I was interrogated by the Nazis. You

455
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<v Speaker 8>can't beat me with something like Nyaki. And that's all

456
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<v Speaker 8>the layers of good cinema. That's right, really funny, it's

457
00:25:01.240 --> 00:25:03.880
<v Speaker 8>the climax of the scene. But like Rob, you're saying

458
00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:09.079
<v Speaker 8>that belies like a very deep, like human truth and

459
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<v Speaker 8>like his pain in that.

460
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<v Speaker 4>Moment, And that's really what this is if you understand it.

461
00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:18.920
<v Speaker 4>It's like these people in this period are dealing with

462
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<v Speaker 4>the aftermath of World War Two and they're dealing with

463
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<v Speaker 4>the aftermath of what came with Soviet occupation and it's

464
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<v Speaker 4>coming out in these twisted ways because they can't deal

465
00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:34.599
<v Speaker 4>with it straight ahead. They're stuck, so they have to

466
00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:38.039
<v Speaker 4>figure out a way, like the birds, like that last

467
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<v Speaker 4>image in the film, like the birds in the Little

468
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<v Speaker 4>Bird Cake. It really is that they're just stuck and

469
00:25:44.359 --> 00:25:46.720
<v Speaker 4>trying to make the best out of whatever the hell

470
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<v Speaker 4>they got to deal with.

471
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<v Speaker 1>There's that line about we had to have this grit

472
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<v Speaker 1>the spirit, otherwise we would have been Germanified like forever ago.

473
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<v Speaker 1>And through watching so many of these check films, it's like, yeah,

474
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<v Speaker 1>they've had problems for centuries. It's not just over the

475
00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:08.759
<v Speaker 1>last eighty ninety years. It has gone on for so long,

476
00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Like the Czech language itself almost perished from the earth

477
00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:16.000
<v Speaker 1>because of all of these other countries that were infringing

478
00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:19.680
<v Speaker 1>on them, what be at Austria, be it Germany, wherever.

479
00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Even the term Czechoslovakia is three things all being forced together.

480
00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:28.759
<v Speaker 1>They didn't want to be forced together, and eventually they

481
00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:31.200
<v Speaker 1>broke apart. At least they didn't have the whole Bosnia

482
00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Herzegovina kind of thing where they're fighting each other. I

483
00:26:34.039 --> 00:26:36.599
<v Speaker 1>think the breakup was a lot more amenable than that.

484
00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:39.799
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, these folks have been through the shit all

485
00:26:39.960 --> 00:26:44.160
<v Speaker 1>the time, and yeah it just the one guy, Yeah,

486
00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:46.839
<v Speaker 1>tortured by the Nazis and then he's going to go

487
00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:49.160
<v Speaker 1>from the frying pan into the fire with the Communists

488
00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:51.839
<v Speaker 1>in just a few days. Like we watching this film,

489
00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:54.200
<v Speaker 1>whether you know it or not, whether you do have

490
00:26:54.359 --> 00:26:57.680
<v Speaker 1>that knowledge of the product spring or not, when it happens,

491
00:26:57.759 --> 00:27:01.000
<v Speaker 1>you're just like, oh, okay, yeah, this doesn't sound like

492
00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:03.279
<v Speaker 1>it's very good at all. And you get those things

493
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:08.200
<v Speaker 1>like the communists. Who's presenting to the kids in the classroom,

494
00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:10.680
<v Speaker 1>and he's just like, yeah, we do a lot of paperwork.

495
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Sounds like you have a fascinating life there, sir.

496
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<v Speaker 7>But not only that. He then goes in to tell

497
00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:19.319
<v Speaker 7>this story about how to the kids. He's like, oh,

498
00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:20.480
<v Speaker 7>we heard there.

499
00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:22.759
<v Speaker 4>Was a spy and he was rolling down a motorcycle.

500
00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:25.880
<v Speaker 4>They had a leather backpack, and we waited for him

501
00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:28.720
<v Speaker 4>and we shot him, so heroic. But then there was

502
00:27:28.759 --> 00:27:31.319
<v Speaker 4>another guy on a motorcycle with a leather backpack, so

503
00:27:31.400 --> 00:27:32.960
<v Speaker 4>we had to shoot him too because we didn't know

504
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:37.200
<v Speaker 4>which one spy. So that kind of thing just shows

505
00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:41.359
<v Speaker 4>you this kind of callousness, this kind of we're following orders.

506
00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:45.119
<v Speaker 4>Maybe we didn't get it right, but and he's the

507
00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:47.960
<v Speaker 4>last one. He's the last one who comes to dinner

508
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:52.440
<v Speaker 4>for the single mom teacher and her son, and they

509
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:53.240
<v Speaker 4>toss him out.

510
00:27:54.119 --> 00:27:57.759
<v Speaker 8>Very funny, very dark because like he's telling a group

511
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<v Speaker 8>of I don't know, thirteen fourteen, fifteen year olds. We

512
00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:05.279
<v Speaker 8>definitely at least killed one guy who was just a

513
00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:07.160
<v Speaker 8>guy out in the countryside.

514
00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:10.039
<v Speaker 4>I was thinking about Diamonds in the Night because you

515
00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:12.720
<v Speaker 4>were talking about the Germanification and all of that stuff,

516
00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:17.079
<v Speaker 4>and there's dayton Land but the Nazi takeover, and I

517
00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:18.880
<v Speaker 4>think the links are on that episode.

518
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:22.599
<v Speaker 7>But I talked about the.

519
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:26.559
<v Speaker 4>Museum that I went to when I was in Frague

520
00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:30.680
<v Speaker 4>to the to the Hydrich Terror, the memory of the

521
00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:35.079
<v Speaker 4>Hydrich Terror in Operation Anthropoid, which were the Czech Partisans

522
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:38.599
<v Speaker 4>who killed the number three Nazi in the whole system,

523
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:42.960
<v Speaker 4>who was the He was like the governor of that area.

524
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:46.119
<v Speaker 7>And he was a right bastard.

525
00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:50.079
<v Speaker 4>Ryan hart Heidrich, depending on the biographies you read, was

526
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:53.839
<v Speaker 4>so into it, like Key scared Hitler, Like Hitler's like

527
00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:58.559
<v Speaker 4>oof that guy. And he was like one of the

528
00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:01.599
<v Speaker 4>architects of the Final Solution and the extermination camps and

529
00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:04.960
<v Speaker 4>all that stuff to use the right. So the Czech

530
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:08.400
<v Speaker 4>Partisans killed him, and then there was horrible reprisals that came.

531
00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:10.559
<v Speaker 4>They came and took out like a whole village, like

532
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:16.480
<v Speaker 4>several thousand people or for taking him out, And so

533
00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:19.680
<v Speaker 4>just remember, like when you're watching this, it's like, this

534
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:22.920
<v Speaker 4>is the kind of shit these people lived through, these

535
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:26.279
<v Speaker 4>characters and the kind of darkness, so you can understand

536
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:29.400
<v Speaker 4>why and when this is what my friend Rick would say,

537
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:31.279
<v Speaker 4>who lives there, he goes that's why they have this

538
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:33.759
<v Speaker 4>dark sensibility. It's whether it was a dark sense of humor,

539
00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:37.839
<v Speaker 4>is because they've been through just fucking horrible suffering in

540
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:38.920
<v Speaker 4>the twentieth century.

541
00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:41.480
<v Speaker 8>But in among that, I don't think we've said this yet.

542
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:45.359
<v Speaker 8>The protagonist at the very beginning, his suicide attempt is

543
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:49.480
<v Speaker 8>not because of existential disparates, because he's in love with

544
00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:53.519
<v Speaker 8>his neighbor who is not returning his affections. And that's

545
00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:56.119
<v Speaker 8>the heart of the movie that sets its off that

546
00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:01.119
<v Speaker 8>like we can all get behind and understand, Like immediately

547
00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:04.720
<v Speaker 8>he's looking at his neighbor and she even comes by

548
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:05.640
<v Speaker 8>in it, what are you doing?

549
00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:08.680
<v Speaker 4>Helps him out of the rubble, Yeah, out of the

550
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:11.799
<v Speaker 4>rubble of the little goda or whatever they got back there,

551
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:14.720
<v Speaker 4>the gazebo that collapses in them a little bit.

552
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:18.000
<v Speaker 8>Not sturdy enough for a child to hang themselves on.

553
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:19.960
<v Speaker 8>Thankfully well that his.

554
00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:23.039
<v Speaker 1>Dad does that at the end and has very similar

555
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:23.799
<v Speaker 1>results too.

556
00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:27.160
<v Speaker 8>And I think and that was the fascinating parallel. So

557
00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:32.039
<v Speaker 8>like the main kid being into his neighbor and just

558
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:38.799
<v Speaker 8>failing and failing, and two different suicide attempts for unrequited love.

559
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:43.279
<v Speaker 8>But then his father the suicide attempts, after all the

560
00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:47.039
<v Speaker 8>stuff we're talking about, he realizes, oh, this is all happening.

561
00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:50.480
<v Speaker 8>The world is the bad. So like he goes to

562
00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:53.480
<v Speaker 8>do it for a completely different reason but also fails.

563
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:57.279
<v Speaker 8>So that all these different layers of humanity and history

564
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<v Speaker 8>on top of each other and it's it turns now

565
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:01.880
<v Speaker 8>just incredibly well.

566
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:05.799
<v Speaker 4>I thought that his on the end was an unrequited

567
00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:07.079
<v Speaker 4>love for the ideology.

568
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:08.839
<v Speaker 8>There you go. That's beautiful.

569
00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:13.319
<v Speaker 4>That he was so upset that the Russians came in.

570
00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:17.319
<v Speaker 4>He was like, like, he was perfectly happy being a

571
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:21.720
<v Speaker 4>socialist in the way that socialism was, but the fact

572
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:24.480
<v Speaker 4>that the Russians had to come in and impose on

573
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:26.799
<v Speaker 4>top it was like, that was a fucking bridge too far.

574
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:29.519
<v Speaker 3>He was like, no, too much for one man to take.

575
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:35.480
<v Speaker 4>But his son doesn't die, he gets he collapses the

576
00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:38.240
<v Speaker 4>entire yes, because he's a grown man.

577
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:42.400
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, his brother comes and helps him dust him off

578
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:43.119
<v Speaker 7>out of the rubble.

579
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:46.200
<v Speaker 8>So his father and his brother, that was a great relationship,

580
00:31:46.359 --> 00:31:48.440
<v Speaker 8>as well as so many of them. I loved how

581
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.960
<v Speaker 8>the film showed in the cozy dens like something we

582
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:59.400
<v Speaker 8>often don't have as much anymore, like physical proximity with

583
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:04.480
<v Speaker 8>affect and intertwinement with people who you have strong ideological

584
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:07.960
<v Speaker 8>disagreements on. Like now recording this in twenty twenty five,

585
00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:11.079
<v Speaker 8>it's a lot harder to go through the holidays with

586
00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:15.279
<v Speaker 8>people who are drastically ideologically different than you. But that

587
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:18.400
<v Speaker 8>was really, really refreshing to see. Even though they rib

588
00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:20.480
<v Speaker 8>each other, they harass each other, they yell at each

589
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:24.200
<v Speaker 8>other whatever, but their family and that was a nice

590
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:24.720
<v Speaker 8>thing to see.

591
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:28.519
<v Speaker 4>Well, not only are they family, but they become like

592
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:33.480
<v Speaker 4>the whole building becomes family by the end because the

593
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:37.400
<v Speaker 4>single mom who's constantly looking for guys, she falls for

594
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:39.359
<v Speaker 4>the old thing where it's like you'll find love when

595
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:41.799
<v Speaker 4>you stop looking for it kind of thing. So she

596
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:46.160
<v Speaker 4>ends up with the man up in the top floor

597
00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:49.200
<v Speaker 4>who sadly becomes a widower because his wife dies.

598
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:51.839
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, the girl who does not return the protagonists love,

599
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:54.759
<v Speaker 8>her mother dies and then her father marries the But

600
00:32:55.000 --> 00:33:00.319
<v Speaker 8>that first suitor, I was cracking up, like the kid was.

601
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:02.359
<v Speaker 8>I was harassing him the whole time.

602
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:06.079
<v Speaker 4>I'm read teacher, his idea he's referred to I'm read teacher.

603
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:08.920
<v Speaker 8>I could not believe. And I'm sure that this is

604
00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:12.839
<v Speaker 8>thinking about the process of writing this and shooting this.

605
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:16.400
<v Speaker 8>I just thought I came with the offer of quality sex,

606
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:20.799
<v Speaker 8>bamboo chopping, the milk and water position, long hours of homework,

607
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:23.559
<v Speaker 8>all in vain, like he just wanted to get a

608
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:28.000
<v Speaker 8>little bit and this kid would not let him. And

609
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:33.440
<v Speaker 8>just his frustration the milk and water whatever, like I

610
00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:34.359
<v Speaker 8>was dying.

611
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:37.759
<v Speaker 4>It's funny the lead up too, where the like the

612
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:39.839
<v Speaker 4>little boy sitting at the table and he's playing with

613
00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:42.279
<v Speaker 4>his erector set or whatever it is.

614
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:45.200
<v Speaker 7>He's playing with her, screwing these little things again, and.

615
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:47.599
<v Speaker 4>He's watching this guy try to mac on his mom

616
00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:51.960
<v Speaker 4>with the paper weight he's looking at he's gazing at

617
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:55.400
<v Speaker 4>her and paperwaight and all this stuff and just trying

618
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:58.440
<v Speaker 4>to If the kid wasn't there, I'm sure everything would

619
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:02.400
<v Speaker 4>have been very successful. Every thing seemed it was going well.

620
00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:05.039
<v Speaker 4>We had a little dance, they had a little music,

621
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.880
<v Speaker 4>they had a they had a little danger because he's

622
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:11.960
<v Speaker 4>got that box free of which to me reminded me

623
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:16.360
<v Speaker 4>of an E meter like the scientology. But he's like

624
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:18.880
<v Speaker 4>holding onto these cans. He's like, all right, hit the

625
00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:21.199
<v Speaker 4>button and it's the kid. Let him go for a

626
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:21.840
<v Speaker 4>while too.

627
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:23.760
<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, like them.

628
00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:27.119
<v Speaker 4>Yes, well you could tell the mother's frustrated too. It's

629
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:30.480
<v Speaker 4>not just comrade teacher that wants to get laid like mom's.

630
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:33.800
<v Speaker 4>I'd like to get laid too, So is it okay

631
00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:36.400
<v Speaker 4>that we do it on Christmas? Takes the boy back

632
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:39.760
<v Speaker 4>to his room and it's keep messing around. I'm going

633
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:41.960
<v Speaker 4>to take your microscope away from you, which was his

634
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:45.119
<v Speaker 4>Christmas gift. Of course, his revenge, as you said, was

635
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:47.440
<v Speaker 4>a massively loud needle drop.

636
00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:48.320
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

637
00:34:48.360 --> 00:34:51.639
<v Speaker 1>I love the scene with the electricity. I love the

638
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:56.360
<v Speaker 1>speaking of cultural things. I want to know that whole

639
00:34:56.480 --> 00:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>story of the very harsh dead the Yoki dad. Why

640
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:05.480
<v Speaker 1>he's pouring that it looks like pewter or something into water.

641
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:09.719
<v Speaker 1>It almost seems like a decoration or like even fortune

642
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:12.119
<v Speaker 1>telling because when he looks at it, then he says

643
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:16.440
<v Speaker 1>his line about the Bolsheviks again, because that's like his refrain.

644
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:20.639
<v Speaker 4>I think that is a kind of divination. It may

645
00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:24.400
<v Speaker 4>be a cultural thing. I don't know, but basically, he's

646
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:28.599
<v Speaker 4>pouring which looks like silver metal into a bowl of

647
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:30.920
<v Speaker 4>cold water, and it sizzles, and then he pulls the

648
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:33.960
<v Speaker 4>this weird pattern out and he looks at it.

649
00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:34.360
<v Speaker 3>What is it?

650
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:35.639
<v Speaker 7>What is it telling you?

651
00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:39.239
<v Speaker 4>I think is what the mother assays to him. So

652
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:41.400
<v Speaker 4>to me, I feel like that's like in line with

653
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:43.480
<v Speaker 4>I don't like reading tea leaves or something.

654
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:44.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, That's what it felt like.

655
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But at the same time, just maybe because it

656
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:50.320
<v Speaker 1>was Christmas, reminded me of like a snowflake or something.

657
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:53.760
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, is this what you do at Christmas time?

658
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:55.519
<v Speaker 1>To make a decoration?

659
00:35:56.760 --> 00:36:00.159
<v Speaker 8>Well, he was so practical too, like it was an

660
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:03.199
<v Speaker 8>odd thing because he was such this like intense guy,

661
00:36:03.719 --> 00:36:06.440
<v Speaker 8>and then they had this that scene did come out

662
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:06.599
<v Speaker 8>of the.

663
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:07.559
<v Speaker 3>Blue a little bit for him.

664
00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:10.679
<v Speaker 1>He's a very intense guy. In that whole scene of

665
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:13.960
<v Speaker 1>him and his family when his wife is doing the

666
00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Lord's prayer and he's got that nationalistic song on. I

667
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:20.280
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that was the Czech national anthem. I

668
00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:23.719
<v Speaker 1>wanted to shazam that to see what was going on there.

669
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:28.039
<v Speaker 1>And especially the daughter has this very pained look on

670
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:31.039
<v Speaker 1>her face, and the mother's just like it's okay, kind

671
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:32.480
<v Speaker 1>of like giving her the little looks.

672
00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:34.760
<v Speaker 3>Like it'll be all right because it'll be okay.

673
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:38.760
<v Speaker 1>The family dynamic with them, with all of these families,

674
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:42.440
<v Speaker 1>but just the tension and especially that little thing that

675
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:45.559
<v Speaker 1>happens when he goes to try to sit down and

676
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:48.639
<v Speaker 1>she hasn't sat down yet, and he says, would you

677
00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:51.320
<v Speaker 1>sit down first so I can follow the korum basically,

678
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:52.400
<v Speaker 1>and then she sits on.

679
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Then he gets to sit down.

680
00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:57.519
<v Speaker 1>And it's just so tense everything with that family gets

681
00:36:57.679 --> 00:36:58.920
<v Speaker 1>really tense a lot.

682
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:02.679
<v Speaker 4>Like I say, I didn't know my grandfather. He died

683
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:06.679
<v Speaker 4>when I was two, but my mom's from Scotland and

684
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:09.079
<v Speaker 4>my grandfather lived through the Blitz and was sunk by

685
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:12.039
<v Speaker 4>the Germans at least twice, maybe three times, well in

686
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:16.239
<v Speaker 4>the Merchant Navy and in Scotland, and he was very

687
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:19.440
<v Speaker 4>like proper by the rules. My mom would say if

688
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:22.239
<v Speaker 4>she's if I looked at my dad wrong, like at

689
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:23.880
<v Speaker 4>the table, he would just lean over.

690
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:25.920
<v Speaker 7>And just smack me out of the blue like he

691
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:28.239
<v Speaker 7>he was just fucking angry.

692
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:31.199
<v Speaker 4>And there's just like when you go through that kind

693
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:34.039
<v Speaker 4>of trauma and you don't know how to deal with it, right,

694
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:36.760
<v Speaker 4>it comes out like that. It comes out as just

695
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:40.039
<v Speaker 4>the scene that comes later where like on what is

696
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:43.719
<v Speaker 4>it on Christmas? They're being loud downstairs, so he comes

697
00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:47.519
<v Speaker 4>down and starts yelling at Yeah, he's just fucking yelling

698
00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:52.320
<v Speaker 4>at each other and he's shoes a yeah, and over

699
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:54.719
<v Speaker 4>what I hope you have another heart attack?

700
00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:57.559
<v Speaker 8>Oh god, vicious And.

701
00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:00.920
<v Speaker 7>It's like over what it's like you could be like, hey, dude,

702
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:02.599
<v Speaker 7>can turn it down.

703
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:04.599
<v Speaker 8>The music was a little bit loud.

704
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:08.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's part they're celebrating, yeah, and it's like it

705
00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:12.360
<v Speaker 4>didn't have to escalate that far that fast. But those

706
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:15.840
<v Speaker 4>kind of guys who survive that kind of trauma sometimes

707
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:18.239
<v Speaker 4>have that kind of way of reacting where it's just

708
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:20.320
<v Speaker 4>shut it down, fucking now.

709
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:24.679
<v Speaker 1>I was with this movie hardcore as I'm watching it.

710
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:27.320
<v Speaker 1>But the scene that you made mention of a little

711
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:30.320
<v Speaker 1>bit earlier on it happens around I think maybe the

712
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:33.280
<v Speaker 1>change from the first act to the second act where

713
00:38:33.719 --> 00:38:37.239
<v Speaker 1>we do get into our main characters. Had Michelle I

714
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:40.320
<v Speaker 1>think it is Michael m I c ch e L.

715
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>So there's no a in there, so is somebody named Michael.

716
00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:44.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to how you pronounce that.

717
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:46.480
<v Speaker 7>He's the main character.

718
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:49.280
<v Speaker 1>He's the main character, and he is part of that

719
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:51.760
<v Speaker 1>love triangle that we mentioned where you have that very

720
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:55.400
<v Speaker 1>hip dude and that hip dude. They're at like the

721
00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:57.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's the post office or what.

722
00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:00.159
<v Speaker 1>But he gets this box and he shows up off

723
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:02.719
<v Speaker 1>these brand new slick shoes that he's got early on

724
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:06.119
<v Speaker 1>in the movie, and they are these pointy boots, these

725
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:10.400
<v Speaker 1>like rock and roll boots, right, and our main character

726
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:12.880
<v Speaker 1>starts making fun of him, like Oh, how freaking girly

727
00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:16.280
<v Speaker 1>these boots are. They look terrible and the girl's better

728
00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:19.360
<v Speaker 1>than your shoes, and he's really ashamed of these clunky

729
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:22.719
<v Speaker 1>shoes that he's got. So here we are Christmas morning

730
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:25.039
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing, waiting for that red rider baby gun

731
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:28.599
<v Speaker 1>or in this case, a crossbow, which was amazing that

732
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:30.559
<v Speaker 1>they give a crossbow as a gift.

733
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:34.199
<v Speaker 3>It was just the little girl, it was amazing.

734
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:36.199
<v Speaker 8>And here's the sun.

735
00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Here's our main character opening up the Christmas present. He

736
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:43.280
<v Speaker 1>opens it up and there's those fucking boots and he's just, oh,

737
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:46.519
<v Speaker 1>this is great, and the dad's just, oh, I love you, son,

738
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:50.679
<v Speaker 1>and they have this wonderful moment. Looks are exchange. Everyone's

739
00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:54.440
<v Speaker 1>warm and happy and then hut, and you get here's

740
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:57.320
<v Speaker 1>what's actually in the package, and it's these Yeah.

741
00:39:57.440 --> 00:39:58.000
<v Speaker 8>That got me.

742
00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:00.599
<v Speaker 7>Oh it was so got me.

743
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:03.480
<v Speaker 4>It totally got me, because the rest of the movie

744
00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:04.639
<v Speaker 4>we haven't had that.

745
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:07.599
<v Speaker 7>That is the only time that we have that in

746
00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:08.000
<v Speaker 7>the movie.

747
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:12.960
<v Speaker 4>And so when it hits you're like, oh god, it's

748
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:15.199
<v Speaker 4>such a laugh and it's gutting at the same.

749
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:19.320
<v Speaker 8>Time because the cool kid like you don't he's not

750
00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:23.159
<v Speaker 8>like a crummy guy. So it's not like we are

751
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:27.119
<v Speaker 8>on the protagonist's side, but it's not like, oh, this

752
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:28.920
<v Speaker 8>guy he ran him off the road a little bit.

753
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:32.360
<v Speaker 8>But that's also they were being rivals a little bit

754
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:36.639
<v Speaker 8>for her affections, so he never like crosses any lines

755
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:39.800
<v Speaker 8>or whatever. But we do want this kid to do well.

756
00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:43.519
<v Speaker 8>And when he that scene, I was like, yeah, like,

757
00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:46.880
<v Speaker 8>nice work, and then the cut to oh no, they

758
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:48.320
<v Speaker 8>not these cool cues.

759
00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Here's these brown socks and these brown clunky boots that

760
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:53.599
<v Speaker 1>I got.

761
00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:57.079
<v Speaker 3>And instead of his dad just being like starting to

762
00:40:57.199 --> 00:40:57.559
<v Speaker 3>sing a.

763
00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:00.920
<v Speaker 8>Rock and roll song and his dad's like, isn't that great?

764
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:05.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he gives us same words but such a different inflection.

765
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:09.400
<v Speaker 4>The cool kid has his families in the States. It

766
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:11.320
<v Speaker 4>seems like they maybe send him back to the home

767
00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:14.360
<v Speaker 4>country for school or something, or to be near grandma.

768
00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:17.199
<v Speaker 4>He's the one who also has the film projector so

769
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:19.719
<v Speaker 4>he's the one projecting the movies out of bed sheet

770
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:21.079
<v Speaker 4>and the neighbors come.

771
00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:24.000
<v Speaker 7>Out and watch and is it Jean Caban? Is that

772
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:26.760
<v Speaker 7>who it is? I think it is in the Grand Illusion.

773
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:31.199
<v Speaker 4>So the kid Michelle or Michael, he's the one who says,

774
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:35.360
<v Speaker 4>oh yeah, he's uses a homophobic slur to say that,

775
00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:38.599
<v Speaker 4>and he looks like your boyfriend. He goes, oh, yeah,

776
00:41:38.639 --> 00:41:40.920
<v Speaker 4>because he's just like him. So there becomes this kind

777
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:46.079
<v Speaker 4>of making fun of each other rivalry thing, which leads.

778
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:46.440
<v Speaker 7>To the poster.

779
00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I know that it's Mick Jagger, but he so looked

780
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:52.360
<v Speaker 1>like the main character for Velvet.

781
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:56.360
<v Speaker 4>Gold Mine because it's very psychedelic colors mc jagger. He

782
00:41:56.760 --> 00:42:00.280
<v Speaker 4>tacks it up on his dad's communist corkboard and was

783
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:05.079
<v Speaker 4>with all the information and the the weekly dinner schedule.

784
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:08.079
<v Speaker 4>Of course, because everything is very regimental, it was typed out. Yeah,

785
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:11.840
<v Speaker 4>so he tacks up the mid Jagger posters fuck you

786
00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:12.519
<v Speaker 4>to dad.

787
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:16.599
<v Speaker 8>The very genuine and very hilarious line. I also wrote

788
00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:18.840
<v Speaker 8>that down. He said, I wanted to pass this bullet

789
00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:21.679
<v Speaker 8>for this bulletin board down to you, you bastard, like

790
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:27.519
<v Speaker 8>like this is the order, this is I was hoping

791
00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:31.360
<v Speaker 8>that you would carry on our traditions of posting the

792
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:33.000
<v Speaker 8>schedule of family schedule.

793
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:36.760
<v Speaker 1>But apparently it's not good. Oh man, it's not good

794
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>enough for you, son. You gotta be a rebel and

795
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:43.960
<v Speaker 1>tack this poster up on my beloved bulletin board.

796
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:48.119
<v Speaker 8>And that was funny too, because when he tore it up,

797
00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:50.639
<v Speaker 8>he's like, it's whatever this is from this guy who

798
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:53.639
<v Speaker 8>like is my friend, but I'm trying to get one

799
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:56.639
<v Speaker 8>over on him anyway. So that was also great. I

800
00:42:56.760 --> 00:43:00.960
<v Speaker 8>loved the moment where they're playing John Wayne movie North

801
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:05.679
<v Speaker 8>to Alaska. Oh yeah, Mikhale's mom comes and just the

802
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:08.599
<v Speaker 8>very simple line delivery of I haven't been to the

803
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:11.559
<v Speaker 8>cinema in fifteen years. I haven't seen a movie and

804
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:15.079
<v Speaker 8>it's just as a movie lover like that was that

805
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:20.239
<v Speaker 8>really landed with me, because like, the cinema is magic.

806
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:24.039
<v Speaker 8>They're in such a hard time and going like, oh, like,

807
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:25.400
<v Speaker 8>I remember what it was like.

808
00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:26.360
<v Speaker 7>To go to a movie.

809
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:31.559
<v Speaker 8>That was devastating. Imagine going fifteen years without seeing a movie.

810
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:33.960
<v Speaker 4>The only other person I can think of that did

811
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:36.960
<v Speaker 4>that he may have watched it on TV. But it

812
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:39.960
<v Speaker 4>was a little bit of trivia on our second episode

813
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:43.000
<v Speaker 4>that in the movie Seconds Rock Hudson plays a character

814
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:46.480
<v Speaker 4>called Wilson, and Brian Wilson was so out of it

815
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:49.039
<v Speaker 4>when he saw that in the late sixties in the

816
00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:51.960
<v Speaker 4>theater he thought it was about him. He was so

817
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:54.159
<v Speaker 4>paranoid that he never saw another.

818
00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:54.519
<v Speaker 7>Movie in the theater.

819
00:43:54.559 --> 00:43:56.400
<v Speaker 4>They said until Et, because of course he had that

820
00:43:56.440 --> 00:43:58.480
<v Speaker 4>whole period in there where he was a little off.

821
00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:02.800
<v Speaker 4>So he next movie, Sound the Feord was et allegedly.

822
00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:03.880
<v Speaker 4>This is the story there.

823
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:08.880
<v Speaker 1>This movie is just filled with one great scene after another.

824
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:11.159
<v Speaker 1>While we're talking about this, I've got the movie up

825
00:44:11.239 --> 00:44:14.599
<v Speaker 1>in the background, and I'm just like, Yep, this was great, Yep,

826
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:17.280
<v Speaker 1>this is great. And they all run together like we're

827
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:19.679
<v Speaker 1>doing like the greatest hits as we're talking about this,

828
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:22.559
<v Speaker 1>But they're all of these just amazing things that are

829
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:26.679
<v Speaker 1>just strung together and really play well with one another.

830
00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:30.519
<v Speaker 1>It just it builds and it weaves and waxes and

831
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:33.239
<v Speaker 1>waynes through this whole thing, and it is just so

832
00:44:33.679 --> 00:44:38.400
<v Speaker 1>frickin funny and sad and melancholy and just so many

833
00:44:38.599 --> 00:44:40.320
<v Speaker 1>fascinating things that are going on here.

834
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:41.960
<v Speaker 8>How about the magician suitor.

835
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:45.039
<v Speaker 3>That was great. I was about to say, that's so funny.

836
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:47.079
<v Speaker 1>I was just about to say, yeah, when they get

837
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:50.199
<v Speaker 1>to the mom doing those dates, and yeah, you get

838
00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:52.199
<v Speaker 1>that guy in there with that amazing hair.

839
00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:54.639
<v Speaker 8>Oh my god, he.

840
00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:58.000
<v Speaker 4>Looks like a Kmart discount version of Seventh or Dali.

841
00:44:58.199 --> 00:44:59.840
<v Speaker 7>I He's got this mustache.

842
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:04.280
<v Speaker 8>It's greasy, stranglery wha, he was Scott, what did he say?

843
00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:09.199
<v Speaker 8>He had a great line like about being lonely because

844
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:13.000
<v Speaker 8>he's performance artist or whatever, like he chooses it, but

845
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:16.119
<v Speaker 8>it's lonely and it's hard, like he makes it out

846
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:19.199
<v Speaker 8>to be like he's sacrificing for this great thing. And

847
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:21.599
<v Speaker 8>he pulls some ping pong balls out of his mouth

848
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:24.440
<v Speaker 8>and he legitimately scares her when he pulls out the

849
00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:29.039
<v Speaker 8>fake snake and she like screams. She does like a

850
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:32.519
<v Speaker 8>Sarah Palmer type scream when that snake comes out. It

851
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:36.159
<v Speaker 8>was just again like so many good parts.

852
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:39.159
<v Speaker 1>I am so glad you brought this to us, Rob.

853
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:41.719
<v Speaker 1>This was such a delight watching this.

854
00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:46.760
<v Speaker 8>How about the scene where the widower walks into the

855
00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:50.719
<v Speaker 8>classroom when they're talking about the students using profanity and

856
00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:53.639
<v Speaker 8>she's got the their version of the F word on

857
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:56.320
<v Speaker 8>the board and he just looks at it and she

858
00:45:56.519 --> 00:46:00.199
<v Speaker 8>like goes to stand in front of it because she's

859
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:02.199
<v Speaker 8>got a room full of all these educators and it's

860
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:05.280
<v Speaker 8>just that word written on the board in their language,

861
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:08.360
<v Speaker 8>and he looks at it like really perplexed, and she

862
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:12.159
<v Speaker 8>moves her body in front of it. Like again, that's

863
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:15.360
<v Speaker 8>like everybody gets that. That's that will be funny to

864
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:16.599
<v Speaker 8>anyone who you show this to.

865
00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:21.599
<v Speaker 4>The other thing that it becomes that you have these

866
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:25.000
<v Speaker 4>families and these characters are so connected. Where I was

867
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:29.199
<v Speaker 4>talking about like the commissar or whatever, the narrator's dad

868
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:34.360
<v Speaker 4>who's the socialist, and the Christmas dude, this is the

869
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:37.559
<v Speaker 4>second Christmas, I guess, or is it. No, it's right

870
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:38.440
<v Speaker 4>before the prug spring.

871
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:39.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it might be in New Year's dinner.

872
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:42.079
<v Speaker 7>No, it's the wedding. It's the wedding dinner.

873
00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:45.199
<v Speaker 4>The teacher, the antie of his gets married to the

874
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:48.719
<v Speaker 4>guy upstairs who's the I was tortured by the Nazis.

875
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:53.039
<v Speaker 4>So he's feeling depressed because the girl he's still pining

876
00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:57.519
<v Speaker 4>for the girl who's now literally a cousin now and

877
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:00.719
<v Speaker 4>by marriage, so he's still pining for her.

878
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:04.280
<v Speaker 7>He's like really upset, I can't really show it or whatever.

879
00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:05.960
<v Speaker 7>He decides to stick his head in the oven.

880
00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:09.119
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, he gets hammered on like the gift wine.

881
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:11.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, suicide another suicide joke.

882
00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:13.159
<v Speaker 7>Sticks his head in the oven.

883
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:17.239
<v Speaker 4>And the man because they're upstairs in his place, and

884
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:20.559
<v Speaker 4>he's what in the electric oven, So they pull him

885
00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:23.239
<v Speaker 4>out and he ends up having heat stroke and he

886
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:25.119
<v Speaker 4>has to go to the hospital, but when they first

887
00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:28.159
<v Speaker 4>pull him out, his dad faints, Like his dad is

888
00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:30.239
<v Speaker 4>so overcome by the fact that his son tried to

889
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:32.480
<v Speaker 4>kill himself because he obviously didn't know about the first

890
00:47:32.519 --> 00:47:35.280
<v Speaker 4>one or he was like, whatever you find, but this

891
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:38.159
<v Speaker 4>one really fucked him up. So he ends up fainting,

892
00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:42.320
<v Speaker 4>And that to me really shows, Yeah, I give my

893
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:43.760
<v Speaker 4>son a lot of shit, but I give him a

894
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:47.000
<v Speaker 4>lot of shit because this is the attitude that I

895
00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:50.039
<v Speaker 4>grew up in at times with my folks, especially my mom,

896
00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:52.480
<v Speaker 4>where it was just like I care about you, I

897
00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:54.119
<v Speaker 4>want you to do good things, I want you to

898
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:57.039
<v Speaker 4>be on the right path, be tough for the tough world,

899
00:47:57.159 --> 00:48:00.519
<v Speaker 4>and all that. In my mom's case, it's packed two suitcases,

900
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:02.000
<v Speaker 4>we're leaving and we're going to the States.

901
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:03.239
<v Speaker 7>You gotta be on it.

902
00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:05.760
<v Speaker 4>So just the fact that he like falls over and

903
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:08.079
<v Speaker 4>faints and then he's like, oh great, he talks on

904
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:11.480
<v Speaker 4>the phone to the hospital. He's gonna be okay. They're

905
00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:14.880
<v Speaker 4>gonna keep them a day or two. But it's a

906
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:17.599
<v Speaker 4>simple thing, but it really shows that connection.

907
00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:20.840
<v Speaker 8>It was also very darkly funny that scene at the

908
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:23.880
<v Speaker 8>at When they hang up, they all start laughing about

909
00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:27.599
<v Speaker 8>how silly he was for like how poor of a

910
00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:31.400
<v Speaker 8>suicide attempt that was. They're like laughing so hard, like,

911
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:34.639
<v Speaker 8>h what a goofy little kid he tried to do

912
00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:37.320
<v Speaker 8>this way, and like they're all four of them are

913
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:40.039
<v Speaker 8>laughing at his suicide attempt.

914
00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:44.000
<v Speaker 4>And then about ten minutes later he's on the end

915
00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:46.639
<v Speaker 4>of the road follow and.

916
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:48.840
<v Speaker 8>His brother's doing the same thing for him. It's like, oh,

917
00:48:48.920 --> 00:48:51.400
<v Speaker 8>come on, brother, I think about this.

918
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:54.639
<v Speaker 4>And there was something recently with went onw a writer

919
00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:56.760
<v Speaker 4>that I read where it was she was talking about

920
00:48:56.840 --> 00:49:01.159
<v Speaker 4>Heathers and how people were like incensed by teenage suicide

921
00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:04.800
<v Speaker 4>stuff and Heathers and it's, oh, it's a different time,

922
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:08.480
<v Speaker 4>like you could have those kind of jokes.

923
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:11.400
<v Speaker 8>Even in the old This is just a silly one

924
00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:14.119
<v Speaker 8>office side. I remember not too long ago, what was

925
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:16.519
<v Speaker 8>it the old version of I think it was like

926
00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:18.079
<v Speaker 8>the old version of You Got Man, like the Shop

927
00:49:18.119 --> 00:49:20.679
<v Speaker 8>around the Corner, which I think also was a Christmas movie.

928
00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:22.599
<v Speaker 8>There was a big old suicide attempt in that, and

929
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:26.039
<v Speaker 8>I was like, whoa, it's dark for studio Hollywood, but

930
00:49:26.119 --> 00:49:29.000
<v Speaker 8>I mean it's this is probably the Christmas movie with

931
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:30.519
<v Speaker 8>the most suicide attempts, though.

932
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:34.480
<v Speaker 4>Well, it's a wonderful life. There's our American Christmas movie.

933
00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:36.880
<v Speaker 4>It's got a suicide in it, so.

934
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:39.079
<v Speaker 8>Like a knowing to girl suicide attempt.

935
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:42.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can't cut around that one very easily at all.

936
00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:46.760
<v Speaker 4>Exactly. So what is it with Christmas and suicide? Let's

937
00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:48.679
<v Speaker 4>look at that Christmas and suicide movies.

938
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:52.360
<v Speaker 8>It happens a lot around Christmas because it's like you're

939
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:55.519
<v Speaker 8>supposed to be happy, and when you're not, it just

940
00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:57.559
<v Speaker 8>feels very discordant.

941
00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:01.599
<v Speaker 4>I just find it funny that the Czech National Christmas

942
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:04.480
<v Speaker 4>movie as suicide in it in the American National Christmas

943
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:08.000
<v Speaker 4>Suicide great double feature.

944
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:12.159
<v Speaker 1>I've heard that a lot of suicides take place in

945
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:15.840
<v Speaker 1>the spring or like I've heard specifically February, because it's

946
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:20.280
<v Speaker 1>like you just sludge your way through the holidays and

947
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:23.199
<v Speaker 1>then it's okay, nothing's gonna get better.

948
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:24.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna end it now.

949
00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:27.360
<v Speaker 1>But I would think, you know, go out on Christmas,

950
00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:28.719
<v Speaker 1>ruin everybody's lives.

951
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:31.800
<v Speaker 4>And that credit card bill, that credit card bill, and

952
00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:33.079
<v Speaker 4>go Jesus Christ.

953
00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:36.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh, don't worry, Rob, We're gonna make so much money

954
00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:39.519
<v Speaker 1>with these tariffs, We're gonna all get refund checks.

955
00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:40.519
<v Speaker 3>It's going to be great.

956
00:50:41.559 --> 00:50:43.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm just sad I don't live in Michigan anymore. You

957
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:46.000
<v Speaker 4>all have the ten cent bottle return. At least I

958
00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:48.440
<v Speaker 4>could be making some money. So Michigan, you get ten

959
00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:49.920
<v Speaker 4>cents ten cents?

960
00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:52.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wait a minute, you mean you get five cents

961
00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:54.960
<v Speaker 1>here and ten cents there. You could round up bottles

962
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:56.239
<v Speaker 1>here and run them out to Michigan.

963
00:50:56.360 --> 00:50:58.280
<v Speaker 3>Doesn't work. What a minute, It doesn't work. You get

964
00:50:58.400 --> 00:50:59.079
<v Speaker 3>enough bottles together.

965
00:50:59.159 --> 00:51:01.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you overload your you're invertory and you blow your

966
00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:02.480
<v Speaker 4>margins on gasoline.

967
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:04.760
<v Speaker 7>Trust me, it doesn't work. Now you're not talking that

968
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:08.519
<v Speaker 7>Michigan deposit bottle scam. Now now I'm off that anyway.

969
00:51:08.599 --> 00:51:11.760
<v Speaker 4>If anyone thinks we're joking about suicide, we're not.

970
00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:13.559
<v Speaker 7>It's a very serious topic.

971
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:15.960
<v Speaker 4>I've had friends who died from it, and there have

972
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:18.039
<v Speaker 4>been times in my life where I've been suicidal. But

973
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:21.920
<v Speaker 4>everything I always say, you can always talk about something

974
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:25.119
<v Speaker 4>in art, and it's all about context.

975
00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:28.239
<v Speaker 8>And again, like you said, that's touched all of our

976
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:31.519
<v Speaker 8>lives in one way or another, and we can see

977
00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:33.239
<v Speaker 8>the humanity in that.

978
00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:36.639
<v Speaker 4>And that's what Ultimately, this movie is about it's about

979
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:39.519
<v Speaker 4>the humanity. It's about these folks.

980
00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:41.119
<v Speaker 7>Even if you didn't.

981
00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:44.400
<v Speaker 4>Live through this time and you don't have the historical context,

982
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:47.800
<v Speaker 4>I think you can really understand who these people are

983
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:50.679
<v Speaker 4>and what they're trying to do. Speaking of a historical

984
00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:54.679
<v Speaker 4>piece in here, the little mock up that he makes

985
00:51:55.719 --> 00:52:00.880
<v Speaker 4>of the monument to the Pilots in World War Two.

986
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:02.559
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's fantastic.

987
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:05.400
<v Speaker 4>And this was already torn down by then as part

988
00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:07.719
<v Speaker 4>of de Stalinization. But they show you a photo of

989
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:10.719
<v Speaker 4>this thing, and if you ever look up the historical

990
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:13.960
<v Speaker 4>thing as the Stalin prog Monument, it is a It

991
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:17.400
<v Speaker 4>was a massive granite monument of Stalin and a bunch

992
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:20.960
<v Speaker 4>of workers, and it was made on prison labor. Is

993
00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:23.599
<v Speaker 4>horrible history of this thing that was made. As a

994
00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:25.519
<v Speaker 4>matter of fact, the guy who designed it, I think

995
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:27.840
<v Speaker 4>it was either the day it was unveiled or right

996
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:31.360
<v Speaker 4>shortly after, decided to kill himself because he just didn't

997
00:52:31.719 --> 00:52:35.119
<v Speaker 4>feel good about what he was tasked to do by

998
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:40.800
<v Speaker 4>the Communists and the fact that his characters we're honoring

999
00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:44.199
<v Speaker 4>these murderers and these horrible people. Actually it was blown

1000
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:46.880
<v Speaker 4>up in nineteen sixty three or something like that as

1001
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:51.199
<v Speaker 4>part of destalinization. It was like after Stalin died, they said, oh,

1002
00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:54.039
<v Speaker 4>Stalin was so awful. When krus Steff came in and

1003
00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:57.320
<v Speaker 4>said this is he was terrible and look at all

1004
00:52:57.360 --> 00:52:59.639
<v Speaker 4>the stuff that he did, and we got to be

1005
00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:02.960
<v Speaker 4>honest about how awful that time was.

1006
00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:07.679
<v Speaker 1>That monument looks so similar to one that's in Portugal,

1007
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:11.840
<v Speaker 1>but rather than all of these like soldier and a

1008
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:15.719
<v Speaker 1>farmer and all these things, it's all of these people

1009
00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:19.800
<v Speaker 1>that would go off to basically colonize other places. And

1010
00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:24.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but the people who led the tours,

1011
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:28.079
<v Speaker 1>let me just say that out of Portugal it was

1012
00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:30.599
<v Speaker 1>just like, yeah, we went to this place and they

1013
00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:32.719
<v Speaker 1>have these huge maps where they show like all the

1014
00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:36.119
<v Speaker 1>expeditions to all these places. I'm like, we're talking about

1015
00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:41.079
<v Speaker 1>slavery and colonization and all of these horrible things. And

1016
00:53:41.119 --> 00:53:44.639
<v Speaker 1>they're just like, like we say albrigado when we mean

1017
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:48.400
<v Speaker 1>thank you. And that's why the Japanese people say arigato.

1018
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:49.679
<v Speaker 3>They got it from us.

1019
00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:52.840
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, oh my god, like they the Japanese

1020
00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:54.360
<v Speaker 1>people I hated, you get.

1021
00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:57.199
<v Speaker 4>It's funny you bring this up because I just watched Silence,

1022
00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:00.480
<v Speaker 4>which is the Scorsese movie about the fortune. He's pretty

1023
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:01.199
<v Speaker 4>such man.

1024
00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:04.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm looking at a picture of the Stalin Monument

1025
00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:08.320
<v Speaker 1>right now and it is amazing, like just the scale

1026
00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:10.960
<v Speaker 1>of it, and it's yeah under an article called the

1027
00:54:11.079 --> 00:54:13.119
<v Speaker 1>monument that destroyed its creator?

1028
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:17.440
<v Speaker 4>So holy shit, do you ever go you get a

1029
00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:22.000
<v Speaker 4>chance to go to Prague? They have some beautiful, beautiful things.

1030
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:24.280
<v Speaker 4>One of the things that was lovely because of the

1031
00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:27.320
<v Speaker 4>Nazis loving the check so much and believing they were

1032
00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:32.320
<v Speaker 4>part of the Greater German project. It didn't get bombed

1033
00:54:32.599 --> 00:54:35.960
<v Speaker 4>all that hard, so there's a lot of beautiful architecture

1034
00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:39.039
<v Speaker 4>that's still there that other cities didn't have. And they

1035
00:54:39.079 --> 00:54:41.559
<v Speaker 4>have a lot of beautiful monuments and castles and such.

1036
00:54:41.719 --> 00:54:44.000
<v Speaker 4>So it's a very beautiful city.

1037
00:54:44.239 --> 00:54:44.559
<v Speaker 7>Prague.

1038
00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:47.519
<v Speaker 1>There's a movie I've been trying to remember through this

1039
00:54:48.039 --> 00:54:51.320
<v Speaker 1>entire conversation because it also had rock and roll in it.

1040
00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:58.280
<v Speaker 1>It was from probably a little bit earlier, definitely earlier

1041
00:54:58.760 --> 00:55:02.079
<v Speaker 1>than this came out, what ninety nine, So this was

1042
00:55:02.440 --> 00:55:05.360
<v Speaker 1>I was in college, so it was probably late eighties,

1043
00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:09.039
<v Speaker 1>and I'm thinking it's when father was away on business.

1044
00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:11.880
<v Speaker 1>And I want to say there's a whole rock and

1045
00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:15.480
<v Speaker 1>roll subplot in that. But ironically it was a lot

1046
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:19.039
<v Speaker 1>to do with the t Do Stalin breakup and just

1047
00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:21.880
<v Speaker 1>how that affected I want to say it was Yugoslavia.

1048
00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:25.480
<v Speaker 1>So I would like to go back now and watch

1049
00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:28.639
<v Speaker 1>that and see how it compairs with Cozy Denz, just

1050
00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:31.920
<v Speaker 1>because I could see those two things kind of lining

1051
00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:35.599
<v Speaker 1>up a little bit more. Even though once Czechoslovakia, one's Yugoslavia,

1052
00:55:35.679 --> 00:55:39.880
<v Speaker 1>but both these countries that were really ravaged by communism

1053
00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:44.239
<v Speaker 1>and also countries that produced movies with some really dark

1054
00:55:44.360 --> 00:55:45.159
<v Speaker 1>humor to them.

1055
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:48.000
<v Speaker 4>There's a couple of movies that I think I've talked

1056
00:55:48.039 --> 00:55:49.920
<v Speaker 4>to you about over the years about trying to do

1057
00:55:50.320 --> 00:55:52.440
<v Speaker 4>from the Balkans that I would love to do that

1058
00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:57.519
<v Speaker 4>definitely some dark humor working through their trauma.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've talked about this before, or as far as

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<v Speaker 1>seeing people's trauma on screen and just making that universality

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Just like you were saying before, Philip, you

1062
00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:11.639
<v Speaker 1>don't have to know about the prog Spring to enjoy

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00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:13.960
<v Speaker 1>this film. You don't have to know all of these

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00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:16.079
<v Speaker 1>ins and outs. You don't have to know about Christmas

1065
00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:18.679
<v Speaker 1>carp in order to figure.

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<v Speaker 3>This movie out.

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00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:22.840
<v Speaker 1>It is very universal and it's just great to see

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00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:27.400
<v Speaker 1>something from another country from twenty six years ago and

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00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:30.639
<v Speaker 1>just that speaks to us so loudly today.

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<v Speaker 8>It's also crazy ninety nine is that long ago? Hearing

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00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:36.679
<v Speaker 8>you say that out loud. Yeah, it's got just over

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00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:39.480
<v Speaker 8>a ten thousand letterbox log. This is right for a

1073
00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:43.400
<v Speaker 8>like a Radiance or potentially Criterion, but like this would

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00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:46.280
<v Speaker 8>be a great clean it up. I mean, it's got

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00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:49.800
<v Speaker 8>a really good restoration. Put it together, do some interviews,

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00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:53.199
<v Speaker 8>get a commentary like this would be great. This would

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00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:58.079
<v Speaker 8>be a great discovery, like in addition to the international canon.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the things that I try to do when

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<v Speaker 4>I after I watched this movie and Mike decided you

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00:57:03.679 --> 00:57:05.719
<v Speaker 4>wanted to put on the show was I was trying

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<v Speaker 4>to coordinate with a friend of my friend Rick in Prague,

1082
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:15.440
<v Speaker 4>who actually would have been like the sister in here

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00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:21.519
<v Speaker 4>of the of like the Commissar's daughter, because my friend Rick,

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00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:26.119
<v Speaker 4>his friend Yika, grew up her dad was part of

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00:57:26.199 --> 00:57:29.199
<v Speaker 4>the party and all of that stuff, and so there

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00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:30.679
<v Speaker 4>was part of me that was hoping we could have

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00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:32.719
<v Speaker 4>an interview with someone whould bring a little history to

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<v Speaker 4>it and explain this is what this is.

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<v Speaker 7>And why do I like this movie? Why does check

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00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:40.280
<v Speaker 7>people like this movie? Let me tell you what it

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00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:40.960
<v Speaker 7>speaks to.

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<v Speaker 4>But us being three guys who are not from there

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00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:48.039
<v Speaker 4>and not connected to the culture in that way outside

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00:57:48.079 --> 00:57:53.719
<v Speaker 4>of the cultural exports. It's really about families. It's really

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00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:57.320
<v Speaker 4>about understanding who these people are. I especially think of

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00:57:57.400 --> 00:57:59.800
<v Speaker 4>myself at my age. I have kids, but I can

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00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:03.880
<v Speaker 4>understand friend's money do I can see my parents, I

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00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:08.320
<v Speaker 4>can see myself. I can see just humanity in general

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<v Speaker 4>in a lot of these characters.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's what makes it beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't fuck up, did I did? I like, eliminate

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<v Speaker 1>this possibility? What's that of having your Rick's friend on here?

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00:58:19.639 --> 00:58:22.480
<v Speaker 4>I asked her to do it, and I thought she

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00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:24.599
<v Speaker 4>would be hip to do it, and she's like, it

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00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:26.639
<v Speaker 4>would be nice, but I don't think so I don't

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<v Speaker 4>feel like doing it.

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<v Speaker 7>And I was like, oh, it's too bad.

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00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:30.559
<v Speaker 8>She didn't want to speak for an entire nation.

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<v Speaker 1>The novelist of this, Peter Sabach, he passed away in

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00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:39.559
<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen, I believe. But the director and the adapter,

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00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:42.840
<v Speaker 1>the screenwriter, they're still going strong, still making.

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<v Speaker 8>It like they're still making stuff. I'm just I just

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00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:45.119
<v Speaker 8>looked that up.

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00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:47.400
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, and they're both working at Barndov.

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00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:51.239
<v Speaker 1>So I emailed both of them a couple times to say, hey,

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00:58:51.480 --> 00:58:53.440
<v Speaker 1>you want to come on the show and do this stuff,

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00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:58.239
<v Speaker 1>and never got any responses. There was again only quote

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00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:01.480
<v Speaker 1>unquote twenty six years ago. But yeah, they both have

1119
00:59:01.559 --> 00:59:05.639
<v Speaker 1>been making films for quite a bit. A little while here, we.

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00:59:05.719 --> 00:59:08.360
<v Speaker 4>Were talking before we were rolling, and Philip was saying, oh,

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00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:10.440
<v Speaker 4>I haven't seen a lot of Czech film. I'm like,

1122
00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:12.880
<v Speaker 4>usually the place that people come in or closely watched

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00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:16.280
<v Speaker 4>trains Uri Mensol because of he won an Oscar, and

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00:59:16.360 --> 00:59:19.519
<v Speaker 4>then Milosh Foreman because we know the American Foreman films.

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00:59:19.559 --> 00:59:24.039
<v Speaker 4>Obviously the Cuckoo's an Nest and amideis just those at least,

1126
00:59:24.639 --> 00:59:25.719
<v Speaker 4>and then all the other stuff.

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00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:28.559
<v Speaker 8>I didn't realize Cremator was Check. That's very high on

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00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:28.960
<v Speaker 8>my life.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, it's so good.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing that's interesting about Check and this is film.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is what I was alluding to earlier about

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<v Speaker 4>the architecture is that starting in like the nineties, basically

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<v Speaker 4>as soon as Communism fell, there was a lot of

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00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:47.119
<v Speaker 4>American and European English speaking productions that went there because

1135
00:59:47.400 --> 00:59:50.519
<v Speaker 4>it could fill in for any really old European city,

1136
00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:54.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, it could be Berlin or Vienna or whatever,

1137
00:59:55.239 --> 00:59:57.880
<v Speaker 4>because Berlin and Vienna don't look like they used to

1138
00:59:58.039 --> 01:00:01.119
<v Speaker 4>because they got bombed a shit and rebuilt with modern architecture.

1139
01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:06.039
<v Speaker 4>So it became Czech Republican specifically, product became a place

1140
01:00:06.079 --> 01:00:09.559
<v Speaker 4>for a lot of English language production films. So it's

1141
01:00:09.639 --> 01:00:12.960
<v Speaker 4>always been, especially i'd say in the last thirty years

1142
01:00:13.079 --> 01:00:17.360
<v Speaker 4>or so, really a hotbed of people coming there to shoot,

1143
01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:20.840
<v Speaker 4>but also their own productions, and they're usually pretty high quality,

1144
01:00:20.960 --> 01:00:23.199
<v Speaker 4>like this one. Like I said, it looks as good

1145
01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:25.920
<v Speaker 4>as something that you would see an American film.

1146
01:00:26.679 --> 01:00:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the director of this really started his career right

1147
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:30.800
<v Speaker 1>around the.

1148
01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:32.079
<v Speaker 3>Time of Velvet Revolution.

1149
01:00:32.559 --> 01:00:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I imagine that that opened up new filmmaking avenues for both,

1150
01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Like you're saying, people coming into the country but then

1151
01:00:39.239 --> 01:00:43.000
<v Speaker 1>their own homegrown directors again. And yeah, I think he

1152
01:00:43.559 --> 01:00:46.320
<v Speaker 1>hopefully didn't have to make a lot of films under

1153
01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:51.119
<v Speaker 1>that regime and was able to prosper after that because

1154
01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:55.519
<v Speaker 1>he's according to the source of all truth IMDb, he's

1155
01:00:55.599 --> 01:01:00.039
<v Speaker 1>directed at least fifty four things between TV and movies, more.

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<v Speaker 4>And a lot of his stuff is available, and I

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01:01:03.119 --> 01:01:05.119
<v Speaker 4>don't know if this is connected to any of this

1158
01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:07.559
<v Speaker 4>at all, but I was just thinking about the fact

1159
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:10.239
<v Speaker 4>that out of the Velvet Revolution at the end of

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01:01:10.280 --> 01:01:14.039
<v Speaker 4>communism in Czechoslovakia was BLACKSHAWF Hovel and Hovell was a

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01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:17.159
<v Speaker 4>poet and a playwright, and he was very much into

1162
01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:21.320
<v Speaker 4>the Western arts. So he was like, like, he loved

1163
01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:24.400
<v Speaker 4>Frank Zappa, and he loved the Velvet Underground, and he

1164
01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:27.199
<v Speaker 4>loved rock and roll music, all of this stuff. So

1165
01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:30.199
<v Speaker 4>a lot of these guys came to visit, like Zappa

1166
01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:35.360
<v Speaker 4>became like unofficial cultural attache to Czech Republic until he

1167
01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:38.440
<v Speaker 4>passed a few years later. But there was always this

1168
01:01:38.599 --> 01:01:41.159
<v Speaker 4>connection back in that way. And one of the great things,

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01:01:41.199 --> 01:01:42.880
<v Speaker 4>like I say, if he ended up getting the Prague

1170
01:01:43.119 --> 01:01:45.360
<v Speaker 4>and we can put this link in the show notes,

1171
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:48.079
<v Speaker 4>and I think I may have talked about this during

1172
01:01:48.280 --> 01:01:50.840
<v Speaker 4>when we did Diamonds in the Night is the Museum

1173
01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:53.760
<v Speaker 4>of Communism. And in Prague there's a thing called the

1174
01:01:53.800 --> 01:01:55.880
<v Speaker 4>Museum of Communism, and it shows you what life was

1175
01:01:56.000 --> 01:02:00.719
<v Speaker 4>like from nineteen forty eight when everything collapsed, talks about

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01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:02.920
<v Speaker 4>the product spring and talks about all the things that

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01:02:03.039 --> 01:02:05.679
<v Speaker 4>happened all the way through to the revolution to today,

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01:02:06.119 --> 01:02:09.559
<v Speaker 4>and it's a great museum and if anyone goes, and

1179
01:02:10.119 --> 01:02:12.000
<v Speaker 4>if you have an interest in that and learning more,

1180
01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:14.760
<v Speaker 4>it'll really give you a sense of what the day

1181
01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:16.840
<v Speaker 4>to day life was like and some of the challenges

1182
01:02:16.880 --> 01:02:18.000
<v Speaker 4>of living under that regime.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you mentioned that you came from listening to

1184
01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:23.599
<v Speaker 1>the projection booth, they'll give you a ten percent discount

1185
01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:24.679
<v Speaker 1>on tickets.

1186
01:02:24.360 --> 01:02:24.800
<v Speaker 3>At the door.

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01:02:25.400 --> 01:02:28.960
<v Speaker 4>Maybe, Hey, it doesn't hurt to ask. It doesn't hurt

1188
01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:31.119
<v Speaker 4>to ask. I heard about it on the projection booth.

1189
01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:34.960
<v Speaker 4>They're like, oh, really, okay, Joe Breden.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, We're going to take a break and play

1191
01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:39.840
<v Speaker 1>a preview for next week's show. Right after these brief messages,

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1194
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1196
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<v Speaker 2>At ammond an Arizon scap.

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<v Speaker 5>In your.

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01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:05.480
<v Speaker 4>Charge me.

1211
01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:24.440
<v Speaker 5>Arizona, Arizona, yet Nabi.

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01:04:24.280 --> 01:04:33.159
<v Speaker 7>Who shoos on tissues? Eigo keep su Chi by two, Prince.

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01:04:33.360 --> 01:04:48.400
<v Speaker 5>Chi Ado hog Fogo, Dravanad's disas is in applesder in garuolad,

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01:04:48.400 --> 01:04:53.440
<v Speaker 5>any policy piety start to such any steps on city.

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01:05:01.639 --> 01:05:05.639
<v Speaker 7>Barzila best no whiskuit.

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01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:08.119
<v Speaker 6>In Manito.

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01:05:10.039 --> 01:05:17.840
<v Speaker 1>And you we m s saviss.

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<v Speaker 4>Go kit panjok bestream over sha kid.

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01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:33.039
<v Speaker 7>As to plan cuts, memory.

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<v Speaker 5>Approach, became champion and the duck Badman my the p

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01:05:41.239 --> 01:05:45.239
<v Speaker 5>prosper trig whisky approach.

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<v Speaker 4>Enata.

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<v Speaker 8>That's right.

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01:05:56.639 --> 01:05:58.400
<v Speaker 1>We'll be back next week with a look at the

1225
01:05:58.519 --> 01:06:02.079
<v Speaker 1>old rich Slipsky Cam, the Lemonade Joe. Until then, I

1226
01:06:02.119 --> 01:06:04.760
<v Speaker 1>want to thank my co host Rob and Phillips. So Rob,

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01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:06.719
<v Speaker 1>what is going on in your world, sir?

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01:06:07.599 --> 01:06:08.199
<v Speaker 7>Not a whole lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me say, I've just been writing. I'll have got

1230
01:06:11.880 --> 01:06:14.519
<v Speaker 4>a couple of novels that I ranked down the last year.

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01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:18.960
<v Speaker 3>Just a couple of novels. Yeah, nothing too hard, Yeah,

1232
01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:20.599
<v Speaker 3>nothing too difficulty.

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01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:23.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't do anything. It's just me and my cat.

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01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:26.000
<v Speaker 4>This is what happens. And I'm going to be on

1235
01:06:26.079 --> 01:06:28.719
<v Speaker 4>the show more this over the next few months. You've

1236
01:06:28.760 --> 01:06:30.840
<v Speaker 4>missed me in the past. I don't know who's missing me.

1237
01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:33.320
<v Speaker 4>But I'll be back for a couple more episodes coming

1238
01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:37.159
<v Speaker 4>up over the next year. And yeah, just enjoying myself.

1239
01:06:37.280 --> 01:06:39.880
<v Speaker 4>And I'll give you the link because I've gotten off

1240
01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:42.400
<v Speaker 4>of all the social media, but I am on a

1241
01:06:42.519 --> 01:06:47.000
<v Speaker 4>letterbox now so you can look at my silly reviews

1242
01:06:47.039 --> 01:06:48.559
<v Speaker 4>of movies that I've watched.

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01:06:48.679 --> 01:06:51.159
<v Speaker 1>So I will be sure to link to your name

1244
01:06:51.199 --> 01:06:53.079
<v Speaker 1>in the show notes with your letterbox link.

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01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:55.679
<v Speaker 7>Thank you, mister Mike. I hope you're doing well as

1246
01:06:55.719 --> 01:06:56.079
<v Speaker 7>long as.

1247
01:06:55.960 --> 01:06:57.760
<v Speaker 3>You send it over to me, otherwise I'm not going

1248
01:06:57.800 --> 01:06:58.519
<v Speaker 3>to go search them.

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01:06:58.440 --> 01:06:59.639
<v Speaker 7>For it, we'll do.

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01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:02.400
<v Speaker 4>And also good to be on here with Philip. It's

1251
01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:05.199
<v Speaker 4>good to talk about Karp after talking about Pike.

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01:07:05.760 --> 01:07:08.320
<v Speaker 8>Philip, what's new with you? Sir? Can find me over

1253
01:07:08.400 --> 01:07:10.519
<v Speaker 8>at the Substance and Rob, I just found your letterbox

1254
01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:13.159
<v Speaker 8>followed you there. That's always great when we get people

1255
01:07:13.239 --> 01:07:18.159
<v Speaker 8>to join the very best social media community podcasting over

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01:07:18.239 --> 01:07:20.679
<v Speaker 8>at the Substance, Mike, is probably about time to have

1257
01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:23.039
<v Speaker 8>you back again some point. When we do a lot

1258
01:07:23.079 --> 01:07:26.000
<v Speaker 8>of films under our Substantive Cinema banner, but then we

1259
01:07:26.119 --> 01:07:28.920
<v Speaker 8>also do like our brand is the Substance, it's pretty broad.

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01:07:29.320 --> 01:07:32.440
<v Speaker 8>Recently we've had on New York Times film critic Alyssa

1261
01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:36.400
<v Speaker 8>Wilkinson talking about her book on Joan Didion and John Wayne.

1262
01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:40.320
<v Speaker 8>We recently had British American poet David Gate on his

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01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:44.199
<v Speaker 8>new book of poetry, A Rebellion of Hope. Wide variety

1264
01:07:44.239 --> 01:07:47.960
<v Speaker 8>of stuff here. We actually just covered our second abs

1265
01:07:48.039 --> 01:07:51.199
<v Speaker 8>Kuristami movie of the Year, and on our first one,

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<v Speaker 8>The Wind Will Carry Us had not been announced and

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<v Speaker 8>we're like, man, it'd be great if they put out

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<v Speaker 8>the Wind Will Carry Us. The next month they announced it,

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<v Speaker 8>so then we did Wind Will Carryus episode and at

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<v Speaker 8>the end of that we're like, man, it'd be great

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<v Speaker 8>if Criterion put together a package of the early Kiristami

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<v Speaker 8>shorts and documentaries. And then a couple of days after

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<v Speaker 8>we posted that episode, big that announcement came the return

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<v Speaker 8>of Eclipse, which I'm so excited for. So we got

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<v Speaker 8>to figure out with that guest Martin George Vich, Samy

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<v Speaker 8>nooras Martin McFly, We've got to plan our third oar

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<v Speaker 8>hat trick, Like, what are we going to call into

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<v Speaker 8>being for our next episode? So find me over there.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm on letterboxed and you can find me at the

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<v Speaker 8>Substance Pod on whatever social media is. We're still on.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks again guys for being on the show. Thanks to

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<v Speaker 3>What's that?

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<v Speaker 9>So God loveing.

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<v Speaker 5>And basks.

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<v Speaker 4>This has got.

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