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<v Speaker 1>Hey thirty here fifty five KR City Talk Station and

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<v Speaker 1>listener lunch and if you haven't been to one, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>come up to the show up today and welcoming back

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<v Speaker 1>to the fifty five KRC Morning Show. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>more prominent figures behind the signature drive to save Hyde

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<v Speaker 1>Park Square, John Zinser, Welcome back to the fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>KRC Morning Show and a big congratulations see you and

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<v Speaker 1>all the signature gatherers for really hitting a home run

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<v Speaker 1>and getting way more than was needed to get on

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<v Speaker 1>the ballot this November.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Brian, and I'm no more significant than all

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<v Speaker 3>three hundred for the people who are out there more

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<v Speaker 3>than three hundred collecting signatures. I really appreciate it having

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<v Speaker 3>us back.

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<v Speaker 1>And as you mentioned last time, you were on folks

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<v Speaker 1>from all kinds of neighborhoods throughout the city of Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>We're backing this because you know, as I mentioned before,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's there. But for the grace of God,

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<v Speaker 1>go iy. It happened to bond Hill, it happened to

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<v Speaker 1>Hyde Park. Since the city Council, you know, modifying the

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<v Speaker 1>zoning rules to help well connected developers do what they

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<v Speaker 1>want in the face of what their own constituents wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just I get so irked by this

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<v Speaker 1>John that they absolutely flat out refused to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>the throngs that showed up in opposition to this hotel

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<v Speaker 1>and apartment and underground parking. I mean, it's described as

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<v Speaker 1>a boutique hotel. It's not like that's going to solve

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<v Speaker 1>the homeless problem or the housing shorts in the city

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<v Speaker 1>of Cincinnati. Plus, I mean when you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>designs and the drawing of it, yes, it is about

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<v Speaker 1>the size in many cases. Inspite what council Member Mika

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<v Speaker 1>Owens said.

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<v Speaker 3>About it, I'm with you. We're really proud of the

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two different neighborhoods that were represented in the among

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<v Speaker 3>the collectors, the circulators of petitions, and we had signatures

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<v Speaker 3>from all over the city. And you're word that may

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<v Speaker 3>be a really good one, right there is. People are irked,

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<v Speaker 3>people would like to be heard. We gave City Council

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<v Speaker 3>chance after chance after chance, starting in January at the

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<v Speaker 3>Planning Commission and Staff meeting, more than seven hundred emails,

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<v Speaker 3>sixty people speaking against, four people speaking for That was

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<v Speaker 3>a really good chance where we could have just said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, this isn't the right way to go,

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<v Speaker 3>let's do something else. They didn't. Here's the really good

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<v Speaker 3>news today though, we are giving City Council yet another chance.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a wonderful second opportunity today to begin the process.

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<v Speaker 3>They could excuse me, repeal the decision from April twenty third,

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<v Speaker 3>and everything could get started. We want the smart development.

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<v Speaker 3>We're open to the developer engaging with us and sticking

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<v Speaker 3>to the zoning, and that could happen. All City Council

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<v Speaker 3>has to do is repeal their decision. They have that

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity now, and if they don't, and I have to say,

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<v Speaker 3>I really wonder I don't have a crystal ball. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not going to try to predict what city Council would do.

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<v Speaker 3>We are ready and waiting to go into a ballot drive.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel very comfortable that we can motivate the same

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<v Speaker 3>kind of response we got for the signatures, to turn

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<v Speaker 3>out voters and have people say you have to listen

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<v Speaker 3>to the neighborhoods. You have to listen to the people.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't just listen to the developers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and this concept really, this voter initiative, the citizen

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<v Speaker 1>initiative to have control over their lives. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>just it transcends development. I mean, you're taking a stand

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<v Speaker 1>against the council who won't listen. I don't care what

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<v Speaker 1>issue it is. I mean there was no question, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you and I touched on this once before. I

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<v Speaker 3>believe in a twenty twenty four Plan on Engagement for

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<v Speaker 3>the City, ten glossy pages, beautifully produced, the words neighborhood

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<v Speaker 3>council and community council don't appear once. This administration and

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<v Speaker 3>this iteration of city council is very clear that they

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<v Speaker 3>know what we need and they don't need to hear

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<v Speaker 3>from us. Yeah, they really want our vote, they really

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<v Speaker 3>don't want our voice. Is how it feels. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>what this is really about. And that's why I have

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<v Speaker 3>such comfort about November. If it comes to that again,

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<v Speaker 3>I think city councils should do the right thing and

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<v Speaker 3>repeal this right now. But if they don't, I think

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<v Speaker 3>citizens are going to show up. And if I ask

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<v Speaker 3>you the question, hey, do you want to say in

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<v Speaker 3>what goes on in your neighborhood or do you want

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<v Speaker 3>a developer to make a little bit more money. I

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<v Speaker 3>think I'll get the right answer to that most times.

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<v Speaker 1>Joh with our question. And you know what, this is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like it's supposed to be. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>council and the mayor of lost the concept of representative democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>The citizens of the city of Cincinnati didn't elect this

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<v Speaker 1>group to be dictators and control exclusively the direction of

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<v Speaker 1>the city. They're there to represent the will of the citizenry,

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<v Speaker 1>which differs from neighborhood to neighborhood. That's what irked me

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<v Speaker 1>about the connected communities thing. They shoved down everythy so

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't listen to any local communities about that. Embrace

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<v Speaker 1>the concept. Others outright wanted to reject it, but they

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<v Speaker 1>all wanted control locally. And all the communities are different

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<v Speaker 1>in many respects. I mean the Hyde Park is a

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<v Speaker 1>great illustration of that. You're not the same as Bond Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys have different needs and different ones and different

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<v Speaker 1>desires by the citizens. But again it's the citizen who

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<v Speaker 1>should control. Conceptually, the direction of the city goes well, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It's specifically neighborhood by neighborhood as you're saying, we have

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<v Speaker 3>fifty two fantastic neighborhoods across the city, and many of

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<v Speaker 3>them were represented in this effort, from Mount Washington all

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<v Speaker 3>the way to Salor Park. They showed up because they

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<v Speaker 3>agree with what you're saying. Of we should get a say,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's not just being you know, don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to split a hair here. I know City Council listened,

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<v Speaker 3>but I know we weren't heard. And I've seen plenty

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<v Speaker 3>of op eds and plenty of Reddit pieces that say, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>they just don't like the answer. Oh, Hyde Park, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just another nimby thing. This is anything but not in

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<v Speaker 3>my backyard. This is not in our city. We want

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<v Speaker 3>a representative government that not only listens or shows up

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<v Speaker 3>and sits in the room while we're talking, but communicates

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<v Speaker 3>and engages. And that's what we're asking from the developer

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<v Speaker 3>as well. City Hall and the developer, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 3>have engaged in this in a very similar manner. They

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<v Speaker 3>want to do what they want to do. They have

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<v Speaker 3>not engaged in real dialogue. We certainly sat down with

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<v Speaker 3>many different council members at different times. Some of them

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<v Speaker 3>took the time to come out to the square, etc.

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<v Speaker 3>But we were not heard. The way to do this

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<v Speaker 3>was to stop it and say no, we have we're

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<v Speaker 3>not giving the PD, We're not giving planned development just

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<v Speaker 3>because somebody asks for it, and we really want to

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<v Speaker 3>see that change. And again, city Council has the opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't have to wait until November to move forward

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<v Speaker 3>with this development. We are good for smart development and

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<v Speaker 3>the zoning is fine. The local zoning could work. We

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<v Speaker 3>have had other developers say I could make money within

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<v Speaker 3>the local zoning. Sure they could make more money. Why

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<v Speaker 3>don't we just let them build one hundred stories and

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<v Speaker 3>see how much money they could make off of that.

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<v Speaker 3>So our goal right now, I would encourage city Council

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<v Speaker 3>to hear us do the repeal, do the right thing.

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<v Speaker 3>That would help the developer to get started on the process.

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<v Speaker 3>It would help the citizens to both feel heard and

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<v Speaker 3>know that the current zoning is being respected and that

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<v Speaker 3>there'll be some engagement from day one. We've only asked

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<v Speaker 3>for one thing, that zoning be respected and we engage

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<v Speaker 3>with the developer in the process. That's all we've asked for.

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<v Speaker 3>And eighteen four hundred plus people said, yeah, we should

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<v Speaker 3>even vote on that rather than this just going through.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen to that. Well, I think illustrative of the attitude

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<v Speaker 1>of council when I asked, I believe about repealing it,

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<v Speaker 1>because the various council members were asked about that, why

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<v Speaker 1>just throw in the t O and just repeal the

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<v Speaker 1>variance of the zoning. Council member Mika Owens quoted as

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<v Speaker 1>saying the following, we are leaving all options open. There's

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<v Speaker 1>where the sailing part comes in. During tough decisions, I

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<v Speaker 1>have centered myself in my values. The high park development

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<v Speaker 1>required me to critically to do it critically centering values

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<v Speaker 1>around accessible housing for all, support for small businesses, and

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<v Speaker 1>more spaces for the people of our city to gather

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<v Speaker 1>in community. Whatever the hell that's supposed to mean. This

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<v Speaker 1>referendum is not about the height. This referendum is on

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<v Speaker 1>development as a whole. I will always to stand behind

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<v Speaker 1>projects that share my values for collective and collaborative growth

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<v Speaker 1>for the people of the city of Cincinnati. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all about what she wants.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently I hear those two minds in there. That last

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<v Speaker 3>line about collective and collaborative. There was nothing collective or

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<v Speaker 3>collaborative about this process either. The developer or city council.

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<v Speaker 3>The other piece that's in there. There's nothing in here

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<v Speaker 3>about housing that actually is going to work for the community,

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<v Speaker 3>that what we actually need in this city. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a this is a money making, profit driven piece for

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<v Speaker 3>the developer, and that is fine. I want developers to

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<v Speaker 3>make a good, solid profit. That makes great sense, but

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<v Speaker 3>it shouldn't be quoaked in, oh, we're getting city housing.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you're getting a hotel, and you're getting stuff that's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be beyond the price range of the vast

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<v Speaker 3>majority of citizens of this city. That's not answering the

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<v Speaker 3>issue of the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>It isn't well. Her values for collective and collaborative growth

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<v Speaker 1>apparently don't mean collaborating collaborating with the citizen ry. Johnson's

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<v Speaker 1>or is you pointed out?

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<v Speaker 3>Those are two bad choices of words and those pieces.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you ever been to Hyde Park Square, for say,

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<v Speaker 3>the Farmer's Market on Sunday or even just a regular

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<v Speaker 3>summer weeknight. There are people in the square all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>It is one of the most livable community places in

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<v Speaker 3>this city, and it's a real treasure. And this would

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<v Speaker 3>quite simply change that forever. It would be a complete

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<v Speaker 3>change in how people could live there. We would actually

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<v Speaker 3>lose what I think she's saying. She's very much for

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<v Speaker 3>of places where people can gather.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's hope they do the right thing. Actually, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe repealing the zoning variants and going back to the

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<v Speaker 1>square one will probably help them in their re election

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<v Speaker 1>efforts in November. But let them sink or swim on

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<v Speaker 1>the weight of their own decision making.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a political expert, but I can't imagine any

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<v Speaker 3>of their political directors are going, oh, yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 3>a great issue for us. For the seven people who

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<v Speaker 3>voted the way they did. I don't think they want

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<v Speaker 3>to be going looking for getting re elected with us

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<v Speaker 3>walking around behind them saying you voted the wrong way

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<v Speaker 3>on this, and that all those people from all those

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<v Speaker 3>neighborhoods with them. I really hope they will help us,

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<v Speaker 3>help the developer and help themselves by doing the right

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<v Speaker 3>thing and.

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<v Speaker 1>Repealing Well, it's a good campaign for Corey Bowman. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care how you feel one way or another about

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<v Speaker 1>Corey Bowman, but he has at least that issue to

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<v Speaker 1>run on the current circumstances. John's Inzer, I'm really impressed

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<v Speaker 1>by you and the team and the hard work that

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<v Speaker 1>you put into this, making a stand for the right

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<v Speaker 1>thing and standing up to a councilor who obviously is

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<v Speaker 1>not listening. This is a true showing of representative democracy

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<v Speaker 1>and action and the people wanting the representatives to do

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<v Speaker 1>what they want and go in the direction they want.

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<v Speaker 1>So great illustration of what can be done when you

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<v Speaker 1>put some effort behind it. John, keep up the great work,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's hope they repeal it, but if not, we're

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<v Speaker 1>off with the polls in November.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Brian. It is a great team and we

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<v Speaker 3>really appreciate your support.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to be here to let people know about

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<v Speaker 1>it and talk about it, because again you can tell

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<v Speaker 1>by my agitated voice that it really really irked me

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<v Speaker 1>to know end John, good luck. We'll talk again before November.

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<v Speaker 1>If they don't repeal it, I'm certain of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Brian.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you eight forty two fifty five krs the talk

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<v Speaker 1>station don't go away.

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<v Speaker 3>I happy right back for your information.