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Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to season three,

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episode fifty three of Clips in Dip. I am Chuck Walkler,

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joined by Adam Oslin William Updyke. We don't know where

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he is. We hope he's doing okay. He will be

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back with us for the full tripod the next time.

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We are coming at you live on YouTube or on audio.

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If you'd like to watch us, you can find us

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at YouTube dot com slash at Clippers podcast if you

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want to listen to us. We're everywhere they have podcasts,

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so that is very fun. I am not wearing a

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Clippers hat today. I am wearing a University of Montana

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Grizzlies hat because the men's basketball team just won the

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Big Sky Conference and they're going to the dance, and

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the women's basketball team got beat on a last second

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shot despite being a sixth seed. So I want to

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show love to my alma for doing great in the

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Big Sky Conference tournament. Adam, how are you? Did Biola

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win their conference championship for basketball.

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Speaker 2: In the naia or whatever it is. I don't think so,

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but congratulations to your grizz Congratulations to the Memphis Grizzlies

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for making my plan and putting it into action being

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the number two seed in the Western Conference. Stay there, boys,

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that's exactly where I was.

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Speaker 1: We are gonna talk the Clippers splitting their back to

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back the wrong way, as I would like to call it,

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and then the Clippers play the Hawks tomorrow and the

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Hornets on Sunday. At least one of these games should

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be very winnable. Adam, would you agree or disagree that

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the Clippers split the back to back the wrong way?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I thought they would go to and

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Oh and I definitely didn't think if they lost a

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game it would be the one with Kawhi against the Pelicans.

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But you know, I did think that Pelicans game made

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sense to play Kawhi against them because I thought they

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were the more dangerous team. Of course, a lot of

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people were saying the opposite, Why are we playing them

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against Miami? Zion? Is that good that if you're in

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a close game like that, you're at his mercy. Sometimes

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if Zion is playing, you're in a close game and

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they're having a hot shooting night like that, they're hottest

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of the season, you are at their mercy. It never

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should have come to that. Being down by twenty one,

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then down by seventeen, and the fourth after they had

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cut into the lead. It just was really inconsistent from

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the Clippers from both sides of the basketball. They couldn't

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put together solid quarters, solid possessions out there. I was

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disappointing the playoverale.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was not ideal. The bench was brutal. From three,

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they went three of fifteen. Nico went two of eight,

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which it's not on him to make a bunch of threes,

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but if you get eight, you hope more than two go.

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And we almost had the twenty point comeback right like

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at one point it was almost there and then it

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just dissipated away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they took a lead. I think it was tied

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to eight seven in the third, and then you had

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three straight three porters made by the Pelicans after that,

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two from Trey Murphy and one from CJ. McCollum. And

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I think the Clippers were down eight heading into the fourth,

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and then to start the fourth quarter things weren't looking

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good either. And I really didn't like the fact that

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to start the fourth quarter, I want to say it

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was done a mirror what else was out there? Kawhi

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Aviza zubots the fifth guy. But we talked about post game.

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The first three shots were taken by Kawhi or Vitza

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zubas Uh and they got down by fifteen, call of

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time out. They come back out of meer coffee. It's

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a three pointer. That was a big shot. But I

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didn't understand the lack of aggressiveness from Kawhi, who was

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having a good shooting game. But to start the fourth

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quarter where you would think they'd be running the offense

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through him and he'd be leading them, that didn't happen.

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So I hope we see more consistency throughout four quarters

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from Kawhi moving forward.

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Speaker 1: That's a good call on the Kawhi consistency. I also

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hope we see more consistency, which I think we saw

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in the Heat game of going to Zoo, right. Brian

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Semans said it. In the third quarter of the Pells game.

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The Clippers are playing through a Vitza zubots and it's

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yielding good results like we saw that.

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Speaker 2: Ryan said it.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you, yeah, right, But then they get

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a great win versus the Heat, because why not like that?

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Like I loved how Zoo playing against Autobio.

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Speaker 2: Like the Heat aren't that good.

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Speaker 1: We needed it, though the Clippers right now, I.

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Speaker 2: Think it was a good win. I'm just saying, sure

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they are worse than the Pelicans with Zion and CJ

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playing the heat are worse.

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Speaker 1: That is fair. This back to back I put this

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of the season, a little bit where the Clippers can't

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get it done against a conference opponent, against the team

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that the wins quote unquote matter a little bit more.

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back against a rested Eastern Conference team, we see this

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like Bogie had his I mean, by far best game

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as a Clipper, which hopefully that that keeps going. But

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like this back to back to me was kind of

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a bit of a snapshot of the Clipper season. I guess,

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not bad or good either way, but this is kind

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of what we've been dealing with. They almost lost to

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the King, like it took like, yeah, and.

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Speaker 2: The Kings were playing good, but yeah, that was a

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bad game that they pulled out thanks to Kawhi heroics.

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But they're five and seven since the All Star break now,

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and I think a lot of this is I don't

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know if it's a snapshot of the season is a

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snapshot of how you look without Norman Powell.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, I like that.

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Speaker 2: How many more games do they win post All Star

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I think they win one of the Lakers game. I

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think they win the Bucks game that they were up

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thirteen in. I think they win the Phoenix game. I

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think they win the Peals game.

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Speaker 1: I think that. Yeah, I mean, I could three. I'm

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on board for for sure. I don't know. Four just

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feels like two. I don't know. But the point is

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the exact same is this is what the team. This

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is a snapshot of the team without their leading score.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know it's strange for outsiders to be like,

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what what's the big deal? normOn pal six man tide,

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no leading scorer this season, an efficient leading scorer for

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this team, one of the most efficient players in the

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league this time on high volume. So it's kind of

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a problem when you don't have him. Kawhi has still

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been up and down. James Harden has gone through shooting struggles,

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although he has been pretty good overall. Since the two

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games against the Lakers, He's had an upswing a visa Zubots.

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They're inconsistent with how they use him when they should

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give them the ball. More's an easier.

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Speaker 1: Way to win.

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Speaker 2: Play through zoo. No rampal cures a lot of what

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ails them, really does. I think they'd easily have a

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winning record out of the All Star Break if they

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had norm but they don't. So figure it out and

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they're not going to have in the next two games

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likely either. I don't think he's going to be back

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for the Charlotte game. They might give us an update.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's supposed to be reevaluated basically in the

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next couple of days is when the reovlent. I'm assuming

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when they get back from this this trip. But yeah,

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I mean he won't And that's a reevaluation. That's not

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a he will be practicing.

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Speaker 2: It's unlikely. It's a reevaluation. He's clear for takeoff, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you've if you've been a fan of the Clippers,

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do not put your hopes up on the reevaluation leading

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to him being completely off thee.

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Speaker 2: I hope he's back for the Cavs game. That is

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my guess. When is that that's that would be optimal.

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I would that's next Tuesday. Yeah, Okay, it's gonna be

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real tough to beat a team that's lost ten games

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this season without nor I.

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Speaker 1: Would agree with that. There are some good takeaways from

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the back to back. Obviously Kahi with great offensively versus

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the pals. Did bog then find his shot because him

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shooting his usual averages makes a big difference for how

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this Clippers team can perform out there. That was a

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great something to build off of game for Bogden. We've

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yet to see three games in a row of like

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good Bogden' play in terms of you know what I mean, Like,

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there hasn't been three games in a row a bit.

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I hope that was the start because he looked incredibly confident.

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James Harden posted a hilarious tweet of them as Sidney

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Dean and I'm blanking on the other character name for

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white men can't jump. But this is a And obviously

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he's not going to put up the efficiency that he

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did the other night, but if you get close to

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his normal usual efficiency, that changes a lot for the Clippers,

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especially when it comes to play in basketball.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of over analysis going on

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with with Bogie like you're asking for three games in

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a row. We need three games in a row. It's

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like we can't get three games in a row from Kawaii.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, point.

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Speaker 2: Most of the time, Like it's normal to have up

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Speaker 1: Play and what he's at thirty seven shooting from three

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right as a clipper.

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Speaker 2: He's a little bit under that. I think he's about

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league average now. Okay, last night, but it's like he

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just had twenty three against Detroit. I don't know why

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people are like, oh, Bogi finally showed up. It's like

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he just add twenty three against them. He's had eight

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nine games of being in double figures already. Like, uh,

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I think he's been decent, especially when you consider the

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on ball juice that he's been showing and the pick

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and roll that he's been using.

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Speaker 1: Putting on the floor has been nice.

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Speaker 2: I think he's been He's been pretty solid. He's had

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about five really impactful games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's magnified too, just because people are

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out right, so he's thrust into a role that he

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wouldn't usually have full rotation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully he's big against his former team in Atlanta.

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would you like, Well, yeah, everything's on small sample size

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with his shooting numbers so far really this season, especially

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with Atlanta, and he's getting boards, he's getting assists.

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Speaker 1: He's setting things up. That's because that's the biggest miss

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with Ben Simmons, right, is not having someone there to

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be the other person who can set something up. So

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him coming in and doing that is very valuable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like he's not just a spot up shooter

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and if he's not hitting shots then he's unplayable or

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something like that. He is offering other stuff out there.

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So even without last night's game, I think he's been solid,

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but obviously he's not meeting his potential yet. If he

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has a string of fifteen point game with some efficiency

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Speaker 1: We are cooking with gas.

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Speaker 2: If that is happening, well, it's like his gravity. Look

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at the first three he takes and makes last night

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early in the first quarter. They're all over him. Yeah,

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well they're treating him like he's Bogey Bondana, He's boged

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down Bodonovich. He's Bogey. I'm not overly concerned, but we'll

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see how much of what happened last night can be

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packaged into you know, just a smaller performance but similar

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levels of efficiency out there where it doesn't have to

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be thirty points but fifteen and shoot around forty percent

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Speaker 1: Yeah, him off the bench with that percentage from three

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and being able to put it on the floor is

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very much what the Clippers needed and what they traded

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for another guy who's been pretty good with the connector

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stuff lately, Nicopatum. Nicopatum is put in some classic just

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good solid Nico performances, you know what I mean, Like

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they're obviously they're not going to jump off the stat page,

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but he he's the adult on the floor a lot

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of the times, right, he knows what to do. He's

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and coming to time where halfway through March they've played

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a shit ton of games and there's only a lot

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more coming. So any relief we can get with that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Nico's playing almost eleven more minutes per game in March. Damn,

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this looks intentional. I don't even think it's just about

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the injuries. Yeah, I think they want to get Nico

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going in a rhythm before the playoffs because he can

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be a secret weapon for them. Like I've been saying,

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I think he can as he has been as of late.

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I've been saying all season, I think in a seven

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game series, there's a real good chance Nico starts a

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power forward and they put Kawhi at the three, depending

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on the mashup. I've said it all season, and he's,

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guess what, he's been starting at power forward a lot lately.

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He's averaging a block per game during this time too, whether.

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Speaker 1: That rule. Do you think, because this has been some

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discourse too, when Norm comes back, do what do you

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think the starting lineup looks like for let's call it

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the play in right, because that's kind of I mean,

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that's where we're at right now. Do you think the

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starting lineup goes Harden, Norm, Kawhi, Nico Zoo or do

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you think they go back to the I don't know

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if I can even say usual, because it's not like

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we've had a terrible amount of consistency with it, the

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one that a lot of people myself included, prefer of

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Norm Harden, Kawhi, Derek Jones Junior then Zu.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I think it's gonna be a matchup dependent for

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coach lou Like. I don't think it's going to be

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a set roster. If they're playing Minnesota and Julius Randall

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is out there, Rudy Gobert in the play in, I

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could see I could see Patoomb starting a power forward.

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I could see the lineup that you just said. If

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they're facing a team that's a little bit smaller, switchier

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on the perimeter, I could see DJ or Chris Dunn

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out there instead. But yeah, I think it's it's totally

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gonna be about the opposition and who they're playing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're obviously you're not putting and I'm happy

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that this talk has kind of stopped. You're not putting

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Norm on the bench in the playoffs. That's not happening.

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And I don't fully believe that ty Lu would put

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out a three guard lineup, adding Chris Done and then

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having Kawhi play the four and Zoo play the five.

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I don't think that would happen.

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Speaker 2: What's the lineup then?

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Speaker 1: What you said, the lineup would be hardened Norm, Chris Dunn, Kawhi.

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I could see it, Okay against Yeah, I think he'd

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I think he'd sit Chris Dunne. I think he started

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the first two games against Memphis. He definitely started that

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first one when they got that big win. But I

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think that obviously there was no Kawhi in that game.

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I think it was him and DJ.

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Speaker 1: But there's so many different who was out, so we

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have to keep track of with these lineups.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh no, I could see it. I heard U.

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I think it was before the Pelicans game. Carlo gave

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out the different iterations and how many of it have

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had this season, and I heard it was like thirty

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nine or something. We had thirty nine different starting lineups.

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I mean, could be worse, guys. There are a couple

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other teams that have been through injuries way worse of

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the Clippers this season.

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Speaker 1: Actually that's crazy. I mean, yeah, look at the Pels,

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who we just played, so saying and I yeah, I

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think I just I like how the team looks with

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Derek Jones junior out there instead of Chris down't fully

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healthy obviously fully healthy type thing. But the way that

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Tyler has had to coach and deal with rotations, he's

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probably more comfortable making, like you said, decisions based on

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who we're playing as an opponent because we haven't had

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a very extended run of like, here's everyone's healthy, let's

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switch people out when everyone's healthy and see how it's going,

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you know what I mean. Like he's kind of been

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having to do the throw something at the wall, hope

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it sticks for unsurprisingly the majority of the season with

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the leading scorer being out.

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Speaker 2: I think he considers it just like an early adjustment,

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like it's not it's so uh it's something uh so

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innate to Clippers basketball at this point. Yes, that expect

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the unexpected, get comfortable being uncomfortable. I don't think it

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would throw guys off or you know, nice It's been

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in flux anyways, so what does it matter now? And

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I think coach luprize himself about being that great adjuster

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out there and playing who he needs depend and it's

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matchup dependent all the time. So I think if you're

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playing Memphis, Chris donas starting because John Moran. If you're

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playing Denver, you're probably going a little bit bigger. You

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might go, but toom because you could switch him on

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to Nikola Jokic at times.

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Speaker 1: Have you the safety Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it's totally just depending on who

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they're playing.

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Speaker 1: Terrence Man is like I've told you all to be ready,

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like stay ready, stay ready. Any other takeaways from the

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back to back Were you encouraged after the backpack? Are

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you still neutral? Kind of just we got a lot

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We're obviously in the thick of a lot of games

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right now for the Clippers.

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Speaker 2: So there, I believe eleven and five now with the

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rest disadvantage of this season, which is like the second

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or third best record with the rest disadvantage. They've been

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really good with rallying after bad losses. Yeahould say they've

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been pretty good in that area. And this was another

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one of them against Miami where they had to have it.

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And it just seems like Harden's always able to dig

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a little bit more into that gas tank that seems

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to be like everlasting gobstopper or something of energy. He's

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always got a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: He's got flubber.

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Speaker 2: It seems like with Harden when he knows he's going

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to be the focal point more because Kawhi is going

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to be out in one of these games, just like

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the game against Detroit where he drops fifty on the

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second I have a back to back where he's playing

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over about forty minutes. It seems that that energizes him.

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He knows he's the main guy, he's the show. It

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all runs through him. And I'm not saying that as criticism, No,

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I think it's just natural because that's what he's most

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comfortable with. We talked about all the moving parts with

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the Clippers all the time, but James Harden had a

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good decade of his career where he was the guy

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all the time. Everything went through him, like the all time,

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you know, used his guy to really start off this

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modern shift to having some of those guys out there

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that just are your system, just like the Clippers have

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with Harden. So I remember what he said at media

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day something about he's excited because I'm on the ball

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in my hands all the time. Like he said that

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like kind of like kind of the ball in my hand,

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And that's who he is as a player, that's what

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he's most comfortable that's what he finds his rhythm, and

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so I'm not surprised when they bounce back this way

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with those type of lineups anymore because I think to

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some degree it brings out the best in Harden. But

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ultimately to peak as a team, you have to merge

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the best of Harden with the best of Kawhi Leonard

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And how do you make all that work? So there's

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still a lot to work through right now and figure

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out when you're probably only getting So there's three more

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back to backs, so you're getting thirteen games at best

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with Kawhi Leonard if he doesn't play in both of

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the back to backs the rest of the season. How

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can you mesh those two as well as you can

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with the time remaining here? That's I think critical right now.

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Speaker 1: I like what you said because kind of about showing

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up to games after they've lost a bad game, They've

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showed up for the most part every game as they

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should have. Right last year there were games where a

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lot of games where we were like, what the why

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are we down twelve again to this lottery team? Why

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are we down so early to this team that again

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on paper, we should be better then the Kings game was

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a difficult game with a playoff atmosphere that they managed

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to win, and they never really rolled over. They almost

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you know, they came back and the first the first

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twenty point comeback against the Pals, they were leading for

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a brief period of time and obviously it all fell apart.

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But that mentality of showing up and still believing that

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they're in every game for the most part, has just

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been really on a better display this season. And I

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think a lot of that goes back to James Harden,

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like you said, like he's like, okay, my night, Like

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time to get zoo twenty Like, let's see what we

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can do with that. Like, so the resilience, maybe it's

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not resilience because you're still losing the first game, but

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that the bounce back ability is big and will help

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this team in a playoff series.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, and Kahi.

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Speaker 1: Looks great offensively versus the Pals, So that's that's a

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fun thing too.

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Speaker 2: I would say, tell me if you agree with this,

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but this has been the best year since the twenty

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one to twenty two season where they didn't have Kawhi,

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where they only had PG for thirty one games. When

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it comes to the Clippers showing up and having effort.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that.

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Speaker 2: Not every single game, but it's never that for even

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the team that goes on to win the championship that year.

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You can look at some games from Boston last year.

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I don't know, the Clippers blew them out in Boston.

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There are games where you don't have it, But for

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the most part, effort has not been an issue with

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this Clippers team, and their defensive rating is indicative of that.

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A lot of that is effort.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would one hundred percent agree with that. And

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it's also like the lows aren't as low as they

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used to be. Right, Like the lows where we're just like,

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oh so no one has it or gives a shit

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tonight is kind of where we're at. Those don't happen.

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I think a big reason that doesn't happen is because

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Chris Dunn is one of the ultimate lead by example

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guys when it comes to defense. Yeah, I think that's huge.

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I think hardened obviously we talked about his leadership in

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the offseason, taking the young guys de Rico Hines and

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making everyone feel together and part of a team, and

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then also going out there on the second NDE of

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a back to plaque playing thirty eight minutes with a

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probably the same percentage usage rate for him like and

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Zoo's consists like they have a good yeah, like coalescence

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of guys who lead by example for the most part,

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who have been available in Zoo and done specific and

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Harden specifically.

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Speaker 2: And maybe it's a bunch of those guys. With James,

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it's I get to go back to playing my brand

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of basketball on those nights where they're undermanned and they

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just have to try to outwork you. With Zoo, it's

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audition by subtraction, with Norman's edition by subtraction, guys that

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are getting more substantial roles, that want to show what

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they can do out there. There's just a level of

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motivation that wasn't always there, maybe when they had the

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most talented teams at times fully healthy, where they would

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have those stinkers and those dud Knights where they just

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didn't seem to show up, and coach Louse sometimes would

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sub them out later get a bench unit, just because

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he wanted to see some guys bring some energy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, those are some dark times. I don't think

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there's been a single hockey line change this year. Has

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Kawi done a five sub situation at any point this year?

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Because that happened a couple of times last year.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember. Yeah, maybe not.

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Speaker 1: God's I'll tell you what. That's the mark of a

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bad season. Look out trying like if you could find

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out many times a coach subbed out five guys at once,

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you're either having a really bad season or a really

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good season. There's no in between there, I don't think.

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Coming up we are going to be talking the Hawks game,

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a reunion and then the little bit of the Hornets

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Speaker 2: What welcome back in clips and dip I'm at a Muslim.

475
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We got Chuck Mockler here. It's episode fifty three of

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season two. No will updyke, but all this will be

477
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together again very still here that sounded warbid.

478
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Speaker 1: That was I was like, are we one of us

479
00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:33,039
going to war?

480
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 2: Clippers going to war against the Hawks to borrow baby?

481
00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:42,680
Huge go LOGI versus the Hawks? Terrace man versus Clippers.

482
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You know. One of the things I would say about

483
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and it relates to the first game against the Hawks

484
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this season. About last night's game though, for the Clippers

485
00:26:51,839 --> 00:26:55,279
in that win against Miami, some of that we talk

486
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about effort, we talk about bouncing back. Some of that

487
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is just hot shooting. The same way we explain away

488
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,920
some losses for the Clippers because of hot shooting, you

489
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,680
have to explain away some wins. I think the same

490
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way sometimes.

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Speaker 1: To be fair, hey, i'pe agree on hundred percent.

492
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Speaker 2: I mean they shot their highest fuel goal percentage of

493
00:27:16,519 --> 00:27:19,920
the season just to tick under sixty percent? Were they

494
00:27:20,599 --> 00:27:22,200
just to tick under Yeah? I think they were forty

495
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eight percent from three good shooting night. Here's a lot

496
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for you.

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Speaker 1: It helped the turnovers. How may was that the second

498
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quarter the third quarter where we I think the Clippers

499
00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:36,480
missed four shots but they had six or seven turnovers

500
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in the single quarter. I think it was the second

501
00:27:38,319 --> 00:27:40,839
quarter against the Heat where it was like they should

502
00:27:40,839 --> 00:27:44,039
have been up by like twenty six, but they turned

503
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them all over seven times in one frame.

504
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Speaker 2: Well, and I take it back to that first game

505
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,359
against the Hawks, and this was Kawhi's first game back,

506
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and they shot fifty five percent from the field and

507
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,559
blew them out one thirty one to one. Five into

508
00:27:56,559 --> 00:27:59,759
it Dome. You know, it just looked amazing and everybody's

509
00:27:59,759 --> 00:28:02,200
freeing out and Kawhi is back and he looks great,

510
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,519
and he was moving really well in his nineteen minutes.

511
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But sometimes just a great shooting game. You know, masks

512
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:15,759
a lot of problems like me, but you need them

513
00:28:16,079 --> 00:28:19,720
and they happen against you. So odds where the Clippers

514
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were due.

515
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Speaker 1: The odds, happened in their favor recently to close the season.

516
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The odds theoretically should be in their favor to have

517
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more hot shooting nights than their opponent based on how

518
00:28:29,519 --> 00:28:32,680
the rest of the season has gone. Someone who's not

519
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,599
going to be hot shooting because that's not what they're

520
00:28:35,599 --> 00:28:38,880
here to do. Ben Simmons is upgraded to questionable for

521
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,200
this game, So that's good.

522
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Speaker 2: I mean he wasn't even with the team, right, Las

523
00:28:44,079 --> 00:28:46,000
said that he flew to Atlanta.

524
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so got to imagine he's playing. Yeah, I'm like,

525
00:28:50,359 --> 00:28:53,359
if you have a knee injury and you're not with

526
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,880
the team and then they're flying you out to the game,

527
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I would Hey, I would be pissed if I were

528
00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:02,480
back Simmons and I wasn't playing. If you're gonna make

529
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me come to the city and not play.

530
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Speaker 2: It's not like Drew you Banks was so terrible yesterday

531
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or anything. I thought he was actually sold in that game,

532
00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:13,720
was like, oh god, we need you bet. Well.

533
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Speaker 1: What's funny too, is they play the Hornets at home,

534
00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:18,839
so they would be flying Ben Simmons to just hang

535
00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:22,240
out with the team and then come back on Saturday.

536
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Speaker 2: Yeah we can play.

537
00:29:24,519 --> 00:29:27,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can kind of assume he's playing. Since the

538
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,759
All Star Break, the Hawks are their fourth and pace.

539
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,200
The Clippers are twenty eighth. Not a huge surprise there.

540
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They're fifth in points per game at one hundred and

541
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twenty one, Clips are one hundred and eleven, top ten

542
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,680
to three point percentage, however, twenty fifth in defensive rating.

543
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For the Hawks, they're at one hundred and eighteen point four.

544
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Clippers are nineteenth at one hundred and sixteen point seven.

545
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But Adam Haggle, No, Haggle, I think the Clippers defensive

546
00:29:53,759 --> 00:29:56,960
rating is a lot less indicative of their regular usual

547
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,519
defense than the Hawks defensive rating is. The Clippers are

548
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:04,640
obviously a better defensive team, the nineteenth in the league.

549
00:30:05,119 --> 00:30:07,119
How we feel about playing against the team that's putting

550
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,680
up a lot of points and getting a lot of possessions,

551
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:14,119
because that does can sometimes be this Clippers team's kryptonite.

552
00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. They've had games where they've been able

553
00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:22,079
to hang with teams and outplay them and beat them

554
00:30:22,119 --> 00:30:24,079
at their own game and play at a fast tempo

555
00:30:24,079 --> 00:30:27,160
in a fast pace, like that first game against Atlanta,

556
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:30,880
like that game they beat Memphis twice. They're a fast paced.

557
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Speaker 1: Team, Raptors are crazy fast. And then they've had.

558
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Speaker 2: Other games where they've really struggled. Now, wonder how much

559
00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:39,160
is that the Clippers just had their legs that night.

560
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You know, they're an older team, and how much is

561
00:30:43,319 --> 00:30:47,680
it really an achilles heel for them the majority of

562
00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:49,880
the time, and those games were just outliers where they

563
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,640
were able to run a little bit. But I do

564
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,359
think to me, it's a game you want to try

565
00:30:57,359 --> 00:31:00,119
to slow down, and you have a guy to do it,

566
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:02,680
and it beats the zubots. You can slow down the

567
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:08,960
game that way. Ricky g on X, always tough coach,

568
00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:12,400
always talks about putting the brakes on fast teams and

569
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,200
what he would do and how they used to do

570
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,720
it back in the day. You know, you get it

571
00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:18,000
to your center, you slow things down a little bit,

572
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,880
you play a more physical, slow plotting game, and it

573
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,279
wears on teams. The Clippers have the ability to do that,

574
00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:30,440
and I do think Ben showing up though, tells me

575
00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:34,599
that saw as he's playing, and maybe maybe he doesn't play.

576
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,680
He's just there for vibes, and it was that important

577
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,200
to get him there for that game, even though they're

578
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,400
coming back on Sunday. Anyway, it's just for the vibes.

579
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,920
He's that going to a locker of guy. I'm assuming

580
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,519
he's playing, and he is somebody that can get out

581
00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:49,480
obviously in transition and that's where he's at his best.

582
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,000
So I think they want to be able to play

583
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,079
multiple ways, whether they're going through reasa's zoobots and slowing

584
00:31:56,119 --> 00:31:59,240
it down or when they're going small with Ben at

585
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,640
the point center and being able to hang and run

586
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:07,319
with the Atlanta Hawks in that blow game. But yeah,

587
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,880
I do like the versatility of this team. I was

588
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,519
thinking about it earlier today just on paper after the

589
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:15,160
trade deadline, and now you see it with Bogie being

590
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,039
able to run, pick and roll so much. They do

591
00:32:18,079 --> 00:32:20,440
have a lot of different ways they can play in

592
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:24,119
theory if they're fully healthy, like having Ben back, So

593
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:25,279
I'm interested.

594
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, We've seen a couple Bogie and Ben pick and

595
00:32:28,839 --> 00:32:31,519
rolls that have worked out very well for the Clippers

596
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:33,880
because you know, someone leaves Derk Jones Jenior so we

597
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,240
can cut or someone's coming off a shooter. Like the

598
00:32:36,319 --> 00:32:40,000
Bogie Ben pick and roll is a fun thing. Slowing

599
00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:41,759
the paste down. This is a bit of a tangent.

600
00:32:41,799 --> 00:32:45,319
Did you see what happened in that Illinois high school

601
00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:49,079
basketball state tournament game where a team so there's no

602
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,359
shot clock in like two thirds of the US for

603
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:56,920
high school basketball, which is crazy. This team didn't do

604
00:32:57,119 --> 00:32:59,759
anything with the ball for like seven minutes to open

605
00:32:59,799 --> 00:33:01,920
the game. Like I was watching footage of it, dude,

606
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,640
like they're just standing there. They're not They're not doing

607
00:33:05,759 --> 00:33:08,680
anything like to just slow. It was a nightmare. There

608
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,400
was a reporter there who was like, things are getting

609
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,960
tense because it was like four to six at halftime.

610
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:15,440
Because the team it was a team trying to They

611
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,599
pulled off the upset, but by like literally by not

612
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,039
doing anything during the game.

613
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: Whatever it takes, right.

614
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: Oh man, I would, dude, I could not play for

615
00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:29,880
a team like that. I would I would try to

616
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:35,160
lay up once or something. Yeah. So since the All

617
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,720
Star Break, the Hawks starters have not been good. Since

618
00:33:38,759 --> 00:33:42,319
the All Star break, They're plus one in ninety two

619
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minutes all the lot. Yeah that's interesting. Yeah, so that

620
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,559
gives me some help, especially we're I'm assuming we're talking

621
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,880
kind of rotating starting lineup. Chris Dunn is going to

622
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,160
make life hell for Trey Young. Is my prediction of

623
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,079
what the game plan.

624
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: Is future Clipper Trey Huh?

625
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 1: Well, not if John morancom I think it's real.

626
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 2: I've been talking about for a while. I think, yeah,

627
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,719
I think it's a real possibility.

628
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,599
Speaker 1: There's been enough rumblings for sure. Their best lineup since

629
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:20,320
the All Star Break has been Karisla, George's and Yang,

630
00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:25,159
Trey Young, Okongwu and Daniels. They're plus fourteen and fifty

631
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:27,280
minutes against small sample size. But that's just how the

632
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,719
teams have been playing since the All Star break. But

633
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,400
I think Chris Dunn is maybe like the most important

634
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,760
guy here defensively for the Clippers. If he doesn't get

635
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,199
the early foul calls, if he does his usual thing,

636
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,960
Trey Young will be frustrated. And then after that, good

637
00:34:43,039 --> 00:34:43,760
luck Atlanta.

638
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've won five of six Atlanta and four in

639
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,239
a row, but two of them are against the Hornets

640
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,480
and seventy six ers. But they beat the Pacers in

641
00:34:54,559 --> 00:34:58,760
back to back games. That's not easy. Also, a team

642
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,880
that plays that's team that kind of plays a pace

643
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,519
to the Clippers, and they're not. They're like eighth or something,

644
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:06,199
but the Clippers could not hang with them.

645
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:06,679
Speaker 1: In their pace.

646
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,639
Speaker 2: Clearly. Yes, that's the other side of it. They've had

647
00:35:09,679 --> 00:35:11,760
some good games against those fast paced teams. They've had

648
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,320
some bad games and those were against the Pacers, even

649
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,480
though they were up by what twenty two in the

650
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,159
first one. Yeah, the Hawks have been playing. They're coming

651
00:35:20,159 --> 00:35:22,840
in hot. I mean they're thirty two and thirty four,

652
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,119
but four game winning streak. They've won five of six

653
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,079
four or five and the game they lost was to Milwaukee.

654
00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:34,719
It was a close game Atlanta, So that's interesting to me.

655
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,079
Their defense has been that bad and they've been winning

656
00:35:38,199 --> 00:35:41,920
as of late. What is their offensive ratings the last

657
00:35:42,519 --> 00:35:43,280
twelve games?

658
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: Here?

659
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,199
Speaker 2: Where are they at here?

660
00:35:44,199 --> 00:35:48,639
Speaker 1: I'm looking it up. Seven points per game? They're at fifth,

661
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,159
and they're at one hundred and twenty one points per game.

662
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,480
I didn't, I don't. I didn't include the rating for

663
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,559
some reason. I was busy at work.

664
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Speaker 2: I got them seventh in offensive rating the last twelve games,

665
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,039
which I think is how many they place.

666
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: As All Star break. That checks out.

667
00:36:04,159 --> 00:36:06,079
Speaker 2: So they've been they've been really humming on that end.

668
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: But again, not the other side of the ball very much.

669
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 2: Not.

670
00:36:10,559 --> 00:36:13,519
Speaker 1: This is a team that is similar to the Raptors,

671
00:36:13,559 --> 00:36:15,599
where it's like, we're gonna run and try and score

672
00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:19,800
as many points and do our best ish on defense.

673
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,239
What are you worried about from the Clippers side playing

674
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,880
a team that scores a bunch of points? Obviously there's

675
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,920
a cold shooting night for the Clippers and the Hawks,

676
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,320
and get out and run a little bit. At home, especially,

677
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,480
things become a little jammed up. But I don't know,

678
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,440
I'm not like incredibly confident about this game, but it's

679
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,159
a game that gives the Clippers the opportunity to kind

680
00:36:42,159 --> 00:36:44,599
of work on some other stuff, or you do the

681
00:36:44,679 --> 00:36:47,400
usual stuff is drill down more against a softer defense.

682
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's interesting in that first game where they blew

683
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,159
out Atlanta, Yeah, no one scored more than twenty points.

684
00:36:56,679 --> 00:36:59,880
Now that twenty was from normOn Powell, but they have

685
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,639
eight guys in double figures of that game. Now, ken

686
00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:09,159
Ford Junior is no longer with the Clippers. He had

687
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,239
fifteen off the pitch there. Terrence Man is on the

688
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,159
Atlanta Hawks, and that was a really good game from

689
00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:16,400
him where he went five to five and at twelve points.

690
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,599
But they kind of did it.

691
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:20,599
Speaker 1: Things change.

692
00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: Maybe they were really sharing the rock. They had thirty

693
00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:28,760
six assists that might have been a season high in

694
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,559
that win over.

695
00:37:29,519 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: Atlanta, So that's gotta be close.

696
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were really good sharing the rock, passing the

697
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,320
basketball out there, and as you've talked about, with Atlanta's

698
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,519
defense not being very good, please watch the tape from

699
00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:46,960
that game, Clippers and share the basketball and make life

700
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,960
easy on one another and share the sugars. To know

701
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:49,760
what Eagle will say.

702
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope they're watching the tape. I assume they

703
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:58,480
are all right. So then they got the Hawks and

704
00:37:58,559 --> 00:38:01,159
then they have to play, get to play, have to

705
00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:04,280
play the Hornets. Who I'm going to run down some

706
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,360
stats I was looking up about the Hornets since the

707
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,400
All Star break. They are three and ten. They are

708
00:38:11,559 --> 00:38:14,320
dead last, and field goal percentage dead last, and true

709
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,440
shooting percentage dead last, and net rating dead last, and

710
00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:21,440
offensive rating and second to dead last and assist a

711
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:26,360
turnover ratio. Now, the question is do these stats encourage

712
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:31,760
you or discourage you for this match up? We shot

713
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,119
them out of the gym last time. How are we

714
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feeling about this Hornets matchup?

715
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Speaker 2: Well, we get to see future Clipper LaMelo Ball.

716
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: And almost future Clipper Miles Bridges.

717
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 2: You boy, Yeah, that first game the Clippers eleven or

718
00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:53,239
twenty eight from the outside almost shot fifty five percent

719
00:38:54,039 --> 00:38:58,880
from the field. Charlotte's offense is pretty much broken. But

720
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,599
they didn't have LaMelo Ball in that first meeting against

721
00:39:02,639 --> 00:39:03,199
the Clippers.

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00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: Oh good call. On another This is another remedy that

723
00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:08,960
Chris dunnsolves or not solves.

724
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:14,199
Speaker 2: But yeah, they'll need more of that. These are both

725
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,159
games where it feels more about the Clippers.

726
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:19,559
Speaker 1: Oh, I like the way you said that.

727
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,159
Speaker 2: If they can play to their potential, I don't care.

728
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,599
If these teams are at their a game, the Clippers

729
00:39:26,599 --> 00:39:31,400
should beat them, you know, if they do that. But

730
00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:38,639
there's so many variables right now with this team, another

731
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,679
one being Ben Simmons coming back. It's hard to know

732
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,559
what you're gonna get at night tonight, which goes back

733
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:48,280
to what you said about the back to back and

734
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,320
you know, one game they play like that, but it's

735
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,440
also been a lot of hot shooting going against them

736
00:39:55,679 --> 00:39:58,480
and cold shooting from them until last night. They have

737
00:39:58,519 --> 00:40:03,880
a breakout against Miami. But you have to win that

738
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,920
game against Charlotte. Oh yeah, you want to talk about

739
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,480
a new low point because.

740
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: Dude, yeah, that the post game, if the Clippers layers

741
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,159
on Sunday, the post game is going to be colorful.

742
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: The further you get into the season, the more every

743
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,840
game is magnified. So even a game against Charlotte, which

744
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,599
if it was back in December, Web, I'd say, who

745
00:40:27,679 --> 00:40:31,719
cares that Charlotte, Nobody's gonna remember this. Everybody is going

746
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,360
to remember this because there will be what fifteen games

747
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:41,960
left before they tip off against them, huge importance to

748
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,119
the Clippers. Come out and play the right way on Sunday.

749
00:40:45,559 --> 00:40:49,079
And that's simple, Like, what does that mean? Clippers basketball

750
00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:52,480
is throwing up and playing great defense. This isn't that

751
00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:54,920
hard to look for an identity this year with this

752
00:40:55,039 --> 00:40:58,559
team and since the All Star Break, well, they are

753
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,480
fourth overall in the season. They were second just like

754
00:41:02,519 --> 00:41:06,719
a week ago. What's going on there? Well, last twelve

755
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:12,320
games post All Star Break, they're nineteenth defensively, not good enough.

756
00:41:12,559 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: Getting those legs back. They gotta get the legs back.

757
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,119
Turns like when you get an old car, you gotta

758
00:41:16,199 --> 00:41:18,400
maybe give it a good little gas sometimes when you

759
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:23,239
started up. Yeah, that's where the Clippers are at. Okay,

760
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,400
player of the weekend, who are you going with? Will

761
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:33,280
is not here? Let's say, yeah, yeah, who do we

762
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,360
think Will would choose? I think he would maybe go

763
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,840
Bogey because then he's gone with Bogey recently. But if

764
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,119
you were gonna go with Boge, you can obviously take it.

765
00:41:41,199 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: He took Bogey, then you took Bogey. Then I just

766
00:41:44,679 --> 00:41:46,920
is it back to Will? No, maybe you.

767
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: Should take Bogey again because he just had his best game.

768
00:41:50,559 --> 00:41:54,159
Speaker 2: He was my player to watch. Also on top of

769
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the clips and dips call yesterday, I was like, I'm

770
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,280
nailing this when I know it now. I also picked

771
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,840
Bogie when he went one for twelve three at Detroit.

772
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Speaker 1: Well, you know what that shows mental fortitude on Bogie's part.

773
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He won the.

774
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Speaker 2: Mental game and mine by picking up.

775
00:42:11,519 --> 00:42:15,159
Speaker 1: All right, who you going with for Hawks and Hornets?

776
00:42:16,599 --> 00:42:23,840
Not Kawhi, Leonard, Norm Powell or Well or him.

777
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 2: Because you brought him up so many times You've talked

778
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,119
me into it. I gotta go Chris Dunn because he's

779
00:42:28,159 --> 00:42:32,480
gonna have to handle two ball dominant guys in Trey

780
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,199
and LaMelo. Lamello has been healthy as of late, right

781
00:42:38,119 --> 00:42:38,480
I think.

782
00:42:38,519 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be honest. I don't get a lot

783
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,239
of I don't get a lot of Hornets news.

784
00:42:41,679 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 2: He's got some real injury issues.

785
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,159
Speaker 1: Sounds like a feature clipper.

786
00:42:47,039 --> 00:42:48,559
Speaker 2: He's fighting over that with Trey Young.

787
00:42:48,599 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: Though.

788
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,119
Speaker 2: Okay, they're healthy.

789
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: There, we got a type. They certainly seem to heavy.

790
00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:59,679
Speaker 2: Baby, Look.

791
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:08,199
Speaker 1: All right, so you're going Chris don Damn. My heart

792
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,559
wants to say Ben Simmons, but I just they're gonna

793
00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:13,760
ease him back. I don't think.

794
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,079
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go.

795
00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm going Derek Jones Jr. I'm going We're playing two

796
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,760
teams that are pretty quick. They play a lot of

797
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,920
they play effectively fast, and not saying that we need

798
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,400
to try and keep up with them, but in the

799
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,559
moments that the Clippers can take advantage of transition opportunities,

800
00:43:33,559 --> 00:43:36,400
which is really important against the younger, faster team. Derek

801
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,760
Jones Junior should be that guy. Yeah, I'm going Derek

802
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:41,440
Jones Jr.

803
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,679
Speaker 2: All Right, that's a good call.

804
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: I feel pretty good about it.

805
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: DJ has been really good as of late. He's been

806
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,119
good all season. What am I talking about?

807
00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:51,599
Speaker 1: It's just well, no, I know what you mean. Recently,

808
00:43:51,639 --> 00:43:52,639
it's it's popped.

809
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,039
Speaker 2: A little bit. Yeah, really some really impactful games, like

810
00:43:56,159 --> 00:43:59,400
him playing late in the game against Sacramento. He was big,

811
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:02,119
he had the he added a big three.

812
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: And he's been I want to double check before I

813
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,039
say this, he's been efficient. He's been the last since

814
00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:12,519
he came back nixt game three for five, King seven

815
00:44:12,559 --> 00:44:15,119
of nine, peals, four for seven, last the other night

816
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:18,519
against the Heat, three for three. Like he's an incredibly

817
00:44:18,519 --> 00:44:20,599
efficient score right now off the bench, who can also

818
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,159
guard one through four.

819
00:44:23,559 --> 00:44:24,639
Speaker 2: A lot of obs in there.

820
00:44:25,519 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 1: Hey you got hey, you gotta finish him.

821
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:33,079
Speaker 2: We need him all heah yeah, nasty, asked Dug yesterday

822
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:33,840
back in Miami.

823
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got up.

824
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,039
Speaker 2: He was shying off a little bit.

825
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,559
Speaker 1: And so who it will's gonna go with Bogie? Then

826
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I guess by default.

827
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Speaker 2: Yeah, one of us always has to have Bogey. That's

828
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:44,239
the new rule.

829
00:44:44,519 --> 00:44:47,519
Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, we have a lot of qualifiers on this

830
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:51,400
player of the player of the game. Pick All right,

831
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,880
That about wraps it up for this edition of Clips

832
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,559
and Dip. We're gonna do a post game hang tomorrow night.

833
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,920
Maybe we'll be on Clippers Talk. Who knows, maybe we'll

834
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,599
be doing a little Clips and Dip one full episode

835
00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:05,239
on Monday. And if you'd like to find us, you

836
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,760
can find us anywhere you listen to podcasts. We love reviews.

837
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,519
If you give us a review on iTunes, we'll read

838
00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:11,679
it on the air. That's always a good time, good

839
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,199
or bad, depending on whatever colorful language you use. And

840
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,880
if you'd like to watch us, you can find us

841
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:22,119
at YouTube dot com Sash at Clippers Podcast Adam. We've

842
00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:25,000
been doing it for the most part tonight, but one

843
00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:27,679
final positive thing to send these Clippers fans into their

844
00:45:27,679 --> 00:45:30,079
weekend with Woo.

845
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Speaker 2: So the Clippers just survived a game. We mentioned they're

846
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:42,360
hot shooting against Miami. Miami also shot it well. They

847
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,320
were at thirty eight percent for free They hit fourteen

848
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,880
three pointers in the game. But the Clipper is one

849
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,199
thing they haven't been doing as well as of late,

850
00:45:52,519 --> 00:45:56,920
aside from knocking down threes themselves, the rebounding numbers have

851
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,000
been down, and that's a part of defense. And yesterday

852
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,679
they out rebound in Miami forty five to twenty nine.

853
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,199
Speaker 1: They were on the boards.

854
00:46:05,679 --> 00:46:08,559
Speaker 2: Some of that is because you know, they didn't leave

855
00:46:08,599 --> 00:46:11,119
a lot of defensive rebounds out there for Miami because

856
00:46:11,159 --> 00:46:14,519
they shot the pull so well. But some of that

857
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,920
was effort. And my god, holding Bam on a bio

858
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,360
to two of seven with six points and seven boards

859
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:26,719
was insane, especially if you look at how good he

860
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,440
had just been playing, Like I was wondering is he

861
00:46:29,559 --> 00:46:33,639
sick afterwards? Like what I know? I know Beata Zoobos

862
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,639
is good, but Bam, come on, man beat the challenge

863
00:46:36,679 --> 00:46:41,800
a little bit, like they dominated him. Even U Banks

864
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,280
was he was good too? Well, that was even you,

865
00:46:46,519 --> 00:46:50,039
I mean, no exactly a top five river protector like Zoo.

866
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,119
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, he's kissing the top five. He's got to

867
00:46:53,159 --> 00:46:53,599
be closed.

868
00:46:54,920 --> 00:47:00,599
Speaker 2: Bam is he's right there, He's right there. Obama was too.

869
00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:03,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, more you give them more minutes. Yeah, well then

870
00:47:03,199 --> 00:47:04,079
maybe we can talk.

871
00:47:05,039 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 2: Bam just had twenty three and fourteen, okay, twenty two

872
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,960
and six, but twenty nine and thirteen, thirty four and twelve,

873
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:15,840
nineteen and fifteen, thirty and seventh, like he was kicking

874
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,119
everybody's ass and then he saw big Zoo was like,

875
00:47:19,199 --> 00:47:25,079
I'm out, can't do it. So the rebounding battle, hopefully

876
00:47:25,159 --> 00:47:28,079
that's something that also continues for the Clippers with them

877
00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:31,119
crashing the boards because for a while, I don't know

878
00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:34,079
if this is still true, but they were top two

879
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:39,480
in defensive rebounding percentage on the season. Yeah, and that

880
00:47:39,679 --> 00:47:41,960
was really good to see from them. They're still third,

881
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,920
but it's it's really dropped off as of late, and

882
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,039
you've got to close out possessions and be better there

883
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,039
and we'll see if that turns around.

884
00:47:51,079 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: Now, there we go, we got to crash the boards.

885
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,599
Thank you all for hanging out. We'll be back before

886
00:47:55,639 --> 00:47:57,880
you know it. And as always, let's go clip