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<v Speaker 1>For decades, people have disappeared in the woods without a trace.

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<v Speaker 1>Some blame wild animals, others whisper of creatures the world

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<v Speaker 1>refuses to believe in. But those who have survived they

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<v Speaker 1>know the truth. Welcome to Backwoods Bigfoot Stories, where we

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<v Speaker 1>share real encounters with the things lurking in the darkness bigfoot,

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<v Speaker 1>dog man, UFOs, and creatures that defy explanation. Some make

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<v Speaker 1>it out, others aren't so lucky. Are you ready, because

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<v Speaker 1>once you hear these stories, you'll never walk in the

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<v Speaker 1>woods alone again. So grab your flashlight, stay close, and

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<v Speaker 1>remember some things in the woods don't want to be found.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit that follow or subscribe button, turn on auto downloads,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's head off into the woods if you dare.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a smell that hits you when you step into

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<v Speaker 1>deep ozark.

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<v Speaker 2>Timber in the summer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cedar and wet limestone and rotting leaves and something

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<v Speaker 1>underneath all of it, something old, something that's been soaking

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<v Speaker 1>into the ground for a thousand years. I haven't set

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<v Speaker 1>foot in those woods since nineteen eighty five, but I

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<v Speaker 1>catch that smell sometimes driving through the hill country south

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<v Speaker 1>of Springfield, or passing a cedar lot after a rain,

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<v Speaker 1>and every single time my hand's tightened on the steering

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<v Speaker 1>wheel and my chest goes cold. And I'm twelve years

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<v Speaker 1>old again, standing at the edge of a tree line

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<v Speaker 1>that I know I should not walk into. My name's Kevin.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fifty three. I live in Kansas City. I coach

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<v Speaker 1>my grandson's Little League team on Saturdays. Normal life, normal guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I was twelve years old, something happened to

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<v Speaker 1>my family on a piece of land in rural Missouri

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<v Speaker 1>that none of us have ever been able to explain,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean none of us. My dad went to

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<v Speaker 1>his grave without ever saying what he thought it was.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom still won't talk about it. My older sister

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<v Speaker 1>brings it up sometimes, usually after a glass of wine

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<v Speaker 1>at Thanksgiving, and you can see the color leave her

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<v Speaker 1>face when she does. I found your show about a

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<v Speaker 1>year and a half ago. I was on a job site,

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<v Speaker 1>had my earbuds in, and one of the guys on

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<v Speaker 1>my crew told me to check out backwoods Bigfoot stories.

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<v Speaker 1>I figured it'd be something to kill time on the

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<v Speaker 1>drive home, but I sat in my truck in my

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<v Speaker 1>own driveway for forty five minutes that first night, just listening,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I came inside and stayed up until one

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning going through episodes because these people were

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<v Speaker 1>describing things I'd lived through, details that I'd never told anyone,

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't think anyone would understand the feeling of

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<v Speaker 1>being watched, the sounds that don't match anything you've ever heard,

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<v Speaker 1>the way animals react before you even know something's wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be clear about something before I get

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<v Speaker 1>into this. I'm not a guy who jumps to concl illusions.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad was career military before he got into farming,

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<v Speaker 1>and he raised us to be observant, to think critically,

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<v Speaker 1>and to not let our imaginations run away from us.

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<v Speaker 1>I spent twenty two years working on engines and mechanical systems,

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<v Speaker 1>and I approach problems the same way. What does the

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<v Speaker 1>evidence tell you, what makes sense, what doesn't. I've asked

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<v Speaker 1>myself those questions about the summer of nineteen eighty five

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<v Speaker 1>more times than I can count, and I still don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a clean answer. But I know what I saw,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what my family saw, and I know that

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<v Speaker 1>whatever was on that property with us was not a bear,

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<v Speaker 1>was not a feral dog, and was not a person.

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<v Speaker 1>It was something else. We moved to the farm in

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<v Speaker 1>early June of nineteen eighty five, I just finished sixth grade.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad had taken early retirement from the army and

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<v Speaker 1>used his savings and a VA loan to buy one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twelve acres in Dent County, Missouri, deep Ozarks.

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<v Speaker 1>The property sat at the end of a gravel road

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<v Speaker 1>about nine miles outside of a town that barely qualified

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<v Speaker 1>feed store, and a church.

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<v Speaker 2>That was it.

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<v Speaker 1>The nearest neighbor was a cattle rancher about a mile

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<v Speaker 1>and a half up the road, an older man named

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<v Speaker 1>Elden Krieger who kept to himself and didn't seem particularly

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<v Speaker 1>interested in making friends. The house was old, built sometime

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen twenties, maybe earlier, two stories, white clapboard

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<v Speaker 1>that had gone gray from neglect, a wrap around porch

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<v Speaker 1>that sagged in the middle, and a stone chimney that

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<v Speaker 1>leaned just enough to make you nervous when the wind

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<v Speaker 1>blew hard. There was a barn behind the house, bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than the house itself, with a hay loft and old

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<v Speaker 1>cattle stalls that hadn't been.

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<v Speaker 2>Used in years.

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<v Speaker 1>Beyond the barn was a fenced pasture maybe ten acres,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the woods.

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<v Speaker 2>The woods.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where everything happened. The property backed up against thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of acres of National forest land marked national forest, all

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<v Speaker 1>of it unbroken timber rolling south toward the current river, oak, hickory, cedar,

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<v Speaker 1>black walnut, dentse stuff, the kind of forest where the

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<v Speaker 1>canopy closes over your head and the temperature drops five

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<v Speaker 1>degrees the second you step into the shade. There were

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<v Speaker 1>game trails threading through it, old logging roads that had

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<v Speaker 1>grown over, and a creek that cut through the southeast

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<v Speaker 1>corner of our property before winding deeper into the hills.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd grown up in rural Kentucky and this was everything

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<v Speaker 1>he'd been missing during twenty years of army posts and

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<v Speaker 1>base housing. He had plans for a garden, for livestock,

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<v Speaker 1>for clearing some of the scrub timber, and selling it.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom was less.

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<v Speaker 1>Enthusiastic, but she'd agreed to give it a shot. She

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<v Speaker 1>was a small town girl too, originally from southern Indiana,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think part of her understood why he needed this.

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<v Speaker 1>My sister Beth was fifteen and absolutely miserable about the move.

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<v Speaker 1>She'd left behind a boyfriend and social circle in Fort Campbell, Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 1>and as far as she was concerned, Missouri might as

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<v Speaker 1>well have been the moon. And then there was me,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve years old, skinny, covered in freckles, and honestly pretty

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<v Speaker 1>excited about the whole thing. I'd been a boy scout

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<v Speaker 1>for two years. I liked being outside. I liked exploring

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<v Speaker 1>in one hundred and twelve acres of woods and fields

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<v Speaker 1>with a creek running through it. That sounded like the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest summer of my life. For about three weeks it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I spent the first part of that June exploring every

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<v Speaker 1>inch of the property I could reach. My dad gave

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<v Speaker 1>me two rules. Be home before dark, and don't cross

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<v Speaker 1>the creek. The creek was the boundary line between our

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<v Speaker 1>land and the National Forest, and he didn't want me

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<v Speaker 1>wandering off into timber that stretched for miles in every

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<v Speaker 1>direction without any landmarks I'd recognize fair enough. I had

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<v Speaker 1>plenty to work with on our side. I found an

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<v Speaker 1>old root cellar dug into a hillside about two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>yards behind the barn. The door had rotted off its hinges,

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<v Speaker 1>but the interior was still solid, cool and dark, and

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<v Speaker 1>smelling like wet earth. I found a natural spring bubbling

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<v Speaker 1>up through rocks near the northwest fence line. I found

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<v Speaker 1>deer trails everywhere, and the tracks to go with them, raccoon, apossum, turkey, rabbit,

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<v Speaker 1>the usual stuff you'd expect in that part of Missouri.

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<v Speaker 1>I found a massive red oak near the creek that

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<v Speaker 1>had to be three hundred years old, with the trunk

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<v Speaker 1>so wide I couldn't get my arms even halfway around it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was comfortable in those woods. That's what I want

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<v Speaker 1>to emphasize. I wasn't a nervous kid. I wasn't jumping

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<v Speaker 1>at shadows. I spent hours out there every day, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>from right after breakfast until late afternoon, and I felt

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<v Speaker 2>The woods felt safe.

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<v Speaker 1>And familiar and full of the kind of quiet that

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<v Speaker 1>a twelve year old boy with an imagination doesn't get

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<v Speaker 1>enough of. I'd sit by the creek and watch crawdads

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<v Speaker 1>work their way along the bottom. I'd climb the easier

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<v Speaker 1>trees and see see how far I could see from

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<v Speaker 1>the upper branches. I built a rough fort out of

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<v Speaker 1>fallen branches near the old Root Cellar. Nothing fancy, just

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<v Speaker 1>a lean to shelter where I could sit in the

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<v Speaker 1>shade and pretend I was a mountain man from one

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<v Speaker 1>of those Jeremiah Johnson type stories. My dad loved. The

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<v Speaker 1>birds were everywhere that first part of the summer, cardinals,

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<v Speaker 1>blue jays, woodpeckers hammering on dead limbs, hawks circling up

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<v Speaker 1>in the thermals above the ridge line. The woods were

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<v Speaker 1>loud with life, and it felt like they'd accepted me,

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<v Speaker 1>like I was just another animal moving through the territory

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<v Speaker 1>and nothing out there paid me much mind. That changed

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<v Speaker 1>in the last week of June. I was walking the

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<v Speaker 1>fence line on the east side of the property, heading

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<v Speaker 1>south toward the creek. It was a Thursday, I'm fairly

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<v Speaker 1>sure because my mom had gone into town for groceries,

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<v Speaker 1>which she did every Thursday. The sun was out, probably

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<v Speaker 1>mid eighties, Cicada's buzzing everything normal. I was just walking

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<v Speaker 1>and looking at the ground I usually did, checking for tracks,

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<v Speaker 1>looking for interesting rocks, regular kid stuff. And then I stopped.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't decide to stop, My body just did it

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<v Speaker 1>the way your hand jerks back from a hot stove

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<v Speaker 1>before your brain even registers the heat. I stood there

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<v Speaker 1>on the trail, and every muscle in my body locked up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I felt something I'd never felt before in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>I was being watched. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I know how that sounds. People say it all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and it sounds dramatic or made up. But I need

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<v Speaker 1>you to understand that this wasn't a thought. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>me imagining something or psyching myself out. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>physical sensation, as real as the ground under my feet.

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<v Speaker 1>The back of my neck went tight, my stomach dropped,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had this overwhelming, almost crushing awareness that something

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<v Speaker 1>was looking at me from the tree line to my left.

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<v Speaker 1>I turned my head slowly. I scanned the woods. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see anything. The trees were thick, there lots of underbrush, honeysuckle,

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<v Speaker 1>BlackBerry tangles growing between the trunks. I couldn't see more

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<v Speaker 1>than maybe thirty or forty feet into the timber.

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<v Speaker 2>But I knew.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew something was in there watching me, and I

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<v Speaker 1>knew it was close enough that I should be able

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<v Speaker 1>to see it. I stood there for maybe a full minute,

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<v Speaker 1>just looking, listening. The cicadas had stopped. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you've ever noticed when that happens, but once you do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the most unsettling silence you'll ever experience. The woods

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<v Speaker 1>go from being loud and alive to being absolutely dead quiet,

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<v Speaker 1>and it happens all at once, like someone flipped a switch.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I heard something move. It was deeper in, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>sixty or seventy feet from where I stood, A single

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<v Speaker 1>footstep heavy, Not the light crunch of a deer picking

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<v Speaker 1>its way through dry leaves. This was something with real

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<v Speaker 1>weight behind it, something that pressed down hard enough to

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<v Speaker 1>snap a stick that sounded like it was as thick

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<v Speaker 1>as my thumb. Just one step, then nothing. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>wait for a second one. I turned around and walked

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<v Speaker 1>back to the house as fast as I could without running.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I didn't run. Something told me

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<v Speaker 1>not to. Something told me that if I ran, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>was in those woods would know I was afraid, and

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<v Speaker 1>that felt dangerous. So I walked fast, my heart hammering

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<v Speaker 1>in my chest, sweat running down the sides of my face,

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<v Speaker 1>and that feeling of being watched boring into my back

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<v Speaker 1>with every step. I got to the house and went

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<v Speaker 1>inside and locked the door behind me. Beth was in

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<v Speaker 1>the living room watching MTV on the Rabbit Ears. We

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<v Speaker 1>When I finally did go back out, I told myself

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<v Speaker 1>I was maybe a quarter mile upstream from where our

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<v Speaker 1>about four inches long, maybe four and a half. These

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<v Speaker 1>but I put my hand down next to one for reference,

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<v Speaker 1>weren't full grown. But still we're talking about prints that

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever made them was heavy. The impressions were sunk a

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<v Speaker 1>clay along the creek wasn't particularly soft. I counted six

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<v Speaker 1>The stride between them was long, longer than my dad's

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<v Speaker 2>A wolf.

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<v Speaker 1>There weren't supposed to be wolves in Missouri, not anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>A really big dog, maybe some kind of mastiff or

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<v Speaker 1>was possible, I guess, but it didn't feel right. The

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<v Speaker 1>in too deep. Whatever left these prints wasn't just big,

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<v Speaker 1>It was heavy and moving with purpose. I pulled a

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<v Speaker 1>stick out of the undergrowth and laid it across one

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<v Speaker 1>of the clearest prints to mark the size. Then I

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<v Speaker 1>truck changing the oil, and he wasn't thrilled about crawling

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<v Speaker 1>out to go look at animal tracks in the creek,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was persistent. I told him they were huge,

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<v Speaker 1>bigger than anything I'd ever seen. Stay tuned for more

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<v Speaker 1>Backwoods bigfoot stories. We'll be back after these messages. And

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<v Speaker 1>eventually he sighed and said, all right, show me. We

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<v Speaker 1>walked down to the creek together. I found the spot

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<v Speaker 1>easily because of the stick I'd left.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>In the maybe forty five minutes between when i'd left

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<v Speaker 1>and when we came back, the best two prints had

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<v Speaker 1>been disturbed. Something had walked through the area and scuffed

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<v Speaker 1>the mud. The remaining prints were still visible, but not

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<v Speaker 1>as crisp, not as dramatic. My dad looked at them,

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<v Speaker 1>looked at the stick I'd placed, looked at the surrounding ground,

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<v Speaker 1>and told me it was probably a big farm dog

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<v Speaker 1>from one of the neighboring properties. He said, tracks in

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<v Speaker 1>soft mud always look bigger than they are because the

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<v Speaker 2>I tried to argue.

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<v Speaker 1>I told him these weren't spread out, they were deep

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<v Speaker 1>and clearly defined. He put his hand on my shoulder

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<v Speaker 1>and said, son, it's a dog, A big one maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>but a dog. And that was the end of the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I should have pushed harder, I should have made him

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<v Speaker 1>really look, But he was my dad, and when your

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<v Speaker 1>a while. July came in hot and mean. Missouri in

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<v Speaker 1>on you like a wet blanket, and the temperature doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>drop below eighty even after the sun goes down. The

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<v Speaker 1>nights were worse somehow. You'd think it would cool off

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<v Speaker 1>after dark, but the air just hung there, thick and

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<v Speaker 1>still pressing against the house like something with weight. I

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<v Speaker 1>spent most of the hottest hours inside reading or playing

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<v Speaker 1>with the atari we'd brought from Fort Campbell, and then

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<v Speaker 1>to cool down a little. My dad had settled into

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<v Speaker 1>a routine by then, up before dawn, coffee on the porch,

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<v Speaker 1>then out to work on whatever project was next on

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<v Speaker 1>his list. He was clearing brush along the south fence line,

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<v Speaker 1>repairing the barn roof, fixing the WEHLL pump that kept

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<v Speaker 1>losing pressure. He was happy, or at least he seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to be. This was the life he'd wanted, the life

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<v Speaker 1>he'd spent twenty years in the army dreaming about my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Had planted a garden near the house, tomatoes and peppers

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<v Speaker 1>and squash, and it was doing well in all that heat.

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<v Speaker 1>Beth had made a tentative friend in town, a girl

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<v Speaker 1>named Jenny whose parents ran the gas station, and she'd

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<v Speaker 1>which meant she was gone most afternoons and slightly less

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<v Speaker 1>miserable about the whole situation. It should have felt perfect

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways. It did, but underneath all

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<v Speaker 1>that normalcy, something was wrong, and I could feel it,

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<v Speaker 1>even if I couldn't name it yet.

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<v Speaker 2>I was still going.

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<v Speaker 1>Into the woods, but something had shifted. I can't pinpoint

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<v Speaker 1>exactly when it happened, but at some point in.

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<v Speaker 2>Early July, the woods started to feel different.

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<v Speaker 1>Not every day, not every time I went out, but

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<v Speaker 1>more and more often I'd be walking a trail or

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<v Speaker 1>sitting by the creek and that feeling would come back,

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<v Speaker 1>that prickling, electric awareness of being observed. Sometimes it would

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<v Speaker 1>last a few seconds and fade. Sometimes it would settle

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<v Speaker 1>in and stay for twenty minutes or more, this heavy,

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<v Speaker 1>oppressive sense that something was tracking my movements from just

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the edge of what I could see, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the sound started. The first time was on a night

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<v Speaker 1>in mid July, maybe the fifteenth or sixteenth. I was

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<v Speaker 1>lying in bed with my window open because we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have air conditioning and my room upstairs trapped heat like

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<v Speaker 1>an oven. It was late, probably eleven or so. My

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<v Speaker 1>parents were asleep, Beth was asleep. The house was quiet,

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<v Speaker 1>except for the usual creaking and settling that old houses do.

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<v Speaker 1>From somewhere out in the woods south of the house,

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<v Speaker 1>toward the creek, I heard something call out. It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to describe. I've spent forty years trying to put this

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<v Speaker 1>sound into words, and I've never gotten it right. The

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<v Speaker 1>closest I can come is that it was like a howl,

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<v Speaker 1>but not a howl. It started low, almost guttural, like

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<v Speaker 1>a growl, that built in volume and then climbed in

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<v Speaker 1>pitch until it became something between a scream and a whale.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a roughness to it, a kind of ragged,

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<v Speaker 1>torn quality, like whatever was making the sound was pushing

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<v Speaker 1>it through vocal cords that weren't built for it. It

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<v Speaker 1>lasted maybe four or five seconds, echoed off the hills

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<v Speaker 1>and then cut off abruptly, no fade out, just there

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<v Speaker 1>and then gone. I lay in my bed, completely still,

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<v Speaker 1>staring at the ceiling. My heart was going so fast

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<v Speaker 1>I could feel it in my temples. I waited for

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<v Speaker 1>it to come again. Five minutes, ten nothing. Eventually I

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<v Speaker 1>got up and closed my window, even though it meant

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<v Speaker 1>I'd swept through my sheets the rest of the night.

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<v Speaker 1>The next morning, at breakfast, I asked my mom if

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<v Speaker 1>she'd heard anything unusual during the night.

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<v Speaker 2>She said she hadn't.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad said he'd heard a coyote yipping around midnight,

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<v Speaker 1>but nothing out of the ordinary. I asked him if

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<v Speaker 1>it sounded like a howl that turned into a scream.

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<v Speaker 1>He looked at me over his coffee and said, coyotes

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<v Speaker 1>make all kinds of sounds, and that I'd get used

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<v Speaker 1>to it, but it wasn't a coyote. I'd heard coyotes

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of times. We'd had them around the base housing

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<v Speaker 1>in Kentucky, and you could hear them at night almost

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<v Speaker 1>every week. Coyotes yip and bark and howl, and even

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<v Speaker 1>when a whole pack gets going at once, you can

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<v Speaker 1>tell what they are. This was a single voice, one animal,

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<v Speaker 1>and the sound it made was unlike anything I'd heard

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<v Speaker 1>before or have heard since. Over the next two weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard it three more times, always at night, always

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<v Speaker 1>from the same general direction, south and east, toward the

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<v Speaker 1>deep timber along the creek. The second time I heard it,

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<v Speaker 1>I was already awake, reading by flashlight under my covers,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was able to get to the window and

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<v Speaker 1>listen more carefully. It was the same call, that low

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<v Speaker 1>building growl that escalated into something high and terrible and

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<v Speaker 1>then stopped cold. But this time, about fifteen seconds after

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<v Speaker 2>Two of them. There were at least two of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I pulled back from the window and sat on the

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<v Speaker 1>that I didn't know existed. Not the fun, thrilling fear

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<v Speaker 2>This was primitive, ancient.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the fear of something out there in the

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<v Speaker 1>dark that you cannot see and do not understand, and

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<v Speaker 2>My dad bought the goats in late July six of them.

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<v Speaker 1>He had plans to clear some of the brush in

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<v Speaker 1>him goats were the best way to do it. He

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<v Speaker 1>of the pasture, near the tree line, and pinned them

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<v Speaker 1>The goats settled in fast. They were eating machines, just

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone had promised, and within a week they'd already

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<v Speaker 1>They had personality. One of them, a brown and white

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<v Speaker 1>to you and push your head against your hand looking

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<v Speaker 1>for scratches. Another one, a gray billy that my dad

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<v Speaker 1>called Hank, was an escape artist who spent half his

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<v Speaker 1>time testing the fence for weak spots. They were funny,

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<v Speaker 1>goofy animals, and taking care of them gave me something

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<v Speaker 1>grateful for. The first one went missing on August third,

422
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<v Speaker 1>I remember the date because it was my mom's birthday.

423
00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:50.759
<v Speaker 1>I went out to feed the goats that morning and

424
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<v Speaker 1>counted five instead of six. One of the younger nannies,

425
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<v Speaker 1>a solid brown one we hadn't named yet, was gone.

426
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<v Speaker 1>The ping gate was closed and latched. The hog wire

427
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<v Speaker 1>was intact on three sides, but on the backside, the

428
00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:07.319
<v Speaker 1>side closest to the tree line, a section of wire

429
00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:09.240
<v Speaker 1>had been pulled away from the bottom of the fence

430
00:23:09.240 --> 00:23:12.480
<v Speaker 1>post and bent upward, leaving a gap maybe two feet

431
00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:16.119
<v Speaker 1>wide and eighteen inches high. I called my dad out.

432
00:23:16.599 --> 00:23:19.119
<v Speaker 1>He looked at the fence, looked at the gap, and

433
00:23:19.160 --> 00:23:21.359
<v Speaker 1>said the goat must have pushed under and run off.

434
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<v Speaker 1>But I could see his face while he examined that wire,

435
00:23:24.799 --> 00:23:28.279
<v Speaker 1>and he wasn't as sure as he sounded. Hogwire is stiff.

436
00:23:28.920 --> 00:23:31.599
<v Speaker 1>Bending it like that takes real force more than a

437
00:23:31.640 --> 00:23:34.240
<v Speaker 1>sixty pound goat is going to exert pushing against it

438
00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:38.039
<v Speaker 1>from ground level. The wire wasn't just bent either. It

439
00:23:38.079 --> 00:23:40.839
<v Speaker 1>was twisted slightly, the way it would be if something

440
00:23:40.839 --> 00:23:43.920
<v Speaker 1>had grabbed it and pulled upward. There were tufts of

441
00:23:43.960 --> 00:23:46.240
<v Speaker 1>brown hair caught in the sharp ends of the wire,

442
00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:48.519
<v Speaker 1>and some of it was stained with what looked like

443
00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:53.519
<v Speaker 1>dried blood. Not a lot, but enough. My dad fixed

444
00:23:53.559 --> 00:23:56.799
<v Speaker 1>the fence, added an extra strand of electric wire along

445
00:23:56.839 --> 00:23:59.200
<v Speaker 1>the bottom, and told me the goat would probably turn

446
00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:00.240
<v Speaker 1>up in a day or two.

447
00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:01.319
<v Speaker 2>She didn't.

448
00:24:02.119 --> 00:24:07.519
<v Speaker 1>A week later, Hank disappeared. Same thing, fence intact everywhere

449
00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:10.440
<v Speaker 1>except one section along the back where the wire had

450
00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:14.319
<v Speaker 1>been peeled back again. This time, my dad found drag

451
00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:16.599
<v Speaker 1>marks in the grass leading from the gap toward the

452
00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:21.599
<v Speaker 1>tree line, two shallow furrows about eighteen inches apart, cutting

453
00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:24.000
<v Speaker 1>through the dew wet grass and disappearing into.

454
00:24:23.799 --> 00:24:25.680
<v Speaker 2>The brush at the edge of the woods.

455
00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:29.319
<v Speaker 1>There was more blood this time, not a puddle, not

456
00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:32.640
<v Speaker 1>even a significant amount, but spatters and smears along the

457
00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:35.400
<v Speaker 1>ground near the fence, and drops in the grass following

458
00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:38.480
<v Speaker 1>the drag line. My dad stood there looking at those

459
00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:41.799
<v Speaker 1>drag marks for a long time. He didn't say anything.

460
00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:44.599
<v Speaker 1>He just stood there with his hands on his hips,

461
00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:48.240
<v Speaker 1>his jaw tight, staring at the woods beyond the pasture.

462
00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Then he went into the house and came back out

463
00:24:50.920 --> 00:24:53.839
<v Speaker 1>with his deer rifle, a Remington thirty ought to six,

464
00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:56.480
<v Speaker 1>and walked the tree line for about one hundred yards

465
00:24:56.480 --> 00:25:00.000
<v Speaker 1>in each direction. He didn't find anything, or at least

466
00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:02.799
<v Speaker 1>he didn't tell me he did. When he came back,

467
00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:04.640
<v Speaker 1>he told me and Beth that we weren't to go

468
00:25:04.680 --> 00:25:07.519
<v Speaker 1>near the woods until further notice. He said there was

469
00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:10.680
<v Speaker 1>probably a big cat in the area, maybe a bobcat

470
00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:13.000
<v Speaker 1>that had gotten bold, and he didn't want us taking

471
00:25:13.039 --> 00:25:16.519
<v Speaker 1>any chances. I wanted to tell him it wasn't a bobcat.

472
00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Bobcats don't bend hog wire. Bobcats don't leave dog shaped

473
00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:25.079
<v Speaker 1>tracks the size of a man's hand. Bobcats don't make

474
00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:28.079
<v Speaker 1>sounds that carry across a valley and stop your heart

475
00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:30.759
<v Speaker 1>in your chest. But I also saw the look on

476
00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:34.000
<v Speaker 1>my dad's face, and I realized something that scared me

477
00:25:34.119 --> 00:25:37.160
<v Speaker 1>almost as much as the sounds in the night. My

478
00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:40.599
<v Speaker 1>dad was unsettled. My dad, who had done two tours

479
00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:43.599
<v Speaker 1>in Vietnam and didn't flinch at much of anything, was

480
00:25:43.599 --> 00:25:45.519
<v Speaker 1>standing at the edge of that tree line with his

481
00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:49.000
<v Speaker 1>rifle in his hands, and he was unsettled. I kept

482
00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:51.920
<v Speaker 1>my mouth shut and stayed close to the house. The

483
00:25:51.960 --> 00:25:55.160
<v Speaker 1>next ten days were tense. My dad started sleeping with

484
00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:57.440
<v Speaker 1>his rifle leaned against the wall next to his bed.

485
00:25:58.240 --> 00:26:00.640
<v Speaker 1>He put a padlock on the goat pen gate, which

486
00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:03.440
<v Speaker 1>was absurd because the gate wasn't the problem, but I

487
00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:05.480
<v Speaker 1>think he needed to feel like he was doing something.

488
00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:08.920
<v Speaker 1>He drove over to Elden Kreeger's place one afternoon and

489
00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:12.359
<v Speaker 1>asked him if he'd lost any livestock recently. My mom

490
00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:14.880
<v Speaker 1>told me later that Kreeger had said no, but that

491
00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:17.839
<v Speaker 1>he'd mentioned finding a dead whitetail buck on his property

492
00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:20.839
<v Speaker 1>that had been partially eaten and dragged into a brush pile.

493
00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:24.680
<v Speaker 1>He'd assumed it was a mountain lion. Kreeger said he'd

494
00:26:24.680 --> 00:26:26.440
<v Speaker 1>been carrying a gun with him when he went out to.

495
00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:27.160
<v Speaker 2>Check his cattle.

496
00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Ever since, I didn't go into the woods at all

497
00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:33.240
<v Speaker 1>during that stretch. I didn't go past the barn. I

498
00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:36.240
<v Speaker 1>helped my dad with projects around the house, helped my

499
00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:39.119
<v Speaker 1>mom in the garden, and stayed within shouting distance of

500
00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the back door at all times. But the feeling of

501
00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:46.119
<v Speaker 1>being watched didn't go away. If anything, it got stronger.

502
00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I'd be standing in the yard hanging laundry on the

503
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:52.000
<v Speaker 1>line for my mom, and I'd feel it wash over me,

504
00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:56.440
<v Speaker 1>that heavy predatory attention coming from the woods to the south.

505
00:26:57.240 --> 00:26:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I'd look out there and see nothing but trees and shadows,

506
00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:05.400
<v Speaker 1>but the feeling was undeniable. The vocalizations continued too. My

507
00:27:05.519 --> 00:27:07.200
<v Speaker 1>dad heard one of them for the first time on

508
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:10.039
<v Speaker 1>a night in mid August. I know he did because

509
00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I was awake when it happened, and I heard his

510
00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:15.759
<v Speaker 1>bedroom door open, heard his footsteps in the hall, heard

511
00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:18.079
<v Speaker 1>the back door creak as he went out onto the porch.

512
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I went to my window and looked down and saw

513
00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:23.640
<v Speaker 1>him standing in the yard and his boxers and undershirt,

514
00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:28.119
<v Speaker 1>his rifle in his hands, looking south toward the tree line.

515
00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:30.839
<v Speaker 1>The sound had already faded. He stood out there for

516
00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:35.559
<v Speaker 1>maybe five minutes, perfectly still, just listening. Then he came

517
00:27:35.599 --> 00:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>back inside and locked the door. At breakfast the next morning,

518
00:27:39.480 --> 00:27:42.519
<v Speaker 1>he was quiet. My mom asked him what was wrong,

519
00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:45.920
<v Speaker 1>and he said nothing, just tired. But he looked at

520
00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:48.400
<v Speaker 1>me across the table and held my eyes for a second,

521
00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:51.720
<v Speaker 1>longer than normal, and I could see it. He'd heard it,

522
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:55.559
<v Speaker 1>and he knew it wasn't a coyote. The third goat

523
00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:58.319
<v Speaker 1>disappeared on a Sunday night in the third week of August.

524
00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:02.519
<v Speaker 1>We heard this one happen, or rather we heard the aftermath.

525
00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:06.279
<v Speaker 1>The goat started screaming around two in the morning. If

526
00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:09.519
<v Speaker 1>you've never heard a goat scream in terror, count yourself lucky.

527
00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:12.519
<v Speaker 1>It's one of the most god awful sounds in the world.

528
00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:17.440
<v Speaker 1>High pitched, raw, desperate. They sounded like they were being murdered,

529
00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:21.039
<v Speaker 1>every single one of them, all at once. My dad

530
00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:22.640
<v Speaker 1>was out of bed and down the stairs with his

531
00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:24.839
<v Speaker 1>rifle before I even got my feet on the floor.

532
00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:27.960
<v Speaker 1>My mom was right behind him, telling him to wait

533
00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:31.759
<v Speaker 1>to call the sheriff, to not go out there alone.

534
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:32.599
<v Speaker 2>He went anyway.

535
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I watched from the upstairs hall window as he crossed

536
00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:39.759
<v Speaker 1>the yard, his flashlight bouncing, and headed toward the pasture

537
00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>at a jog. The goat stopped screaming about the time

538
00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:46.240
<v Speaker 1>he reached the pasture fence. I could see the beam

539
00:28:46.279 --> 00:28:49.000
<v Speaker 1>of his flashlight sweeping back and forth across the pen.

540
00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:52.720
<v Speaker 1>He was out there for maybe fifteen minutes. When he

541
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:57.319
<v Speaker 1>came back inside, his face was white, genuinely white, in

542
00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:00.160
<v Speaker 1>a way that I'd never seen on him before. He

543
00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:02.200
<v Speaker 1>sat down at the kitchen table and put his rifle

544
00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:05.079
<v Speaker 1>across his knees and told my mom that another goat

545
00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:09.039
<v Speaker 1>was gone. The fence was torn open again. Worse this time,

546
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:12.079
<v Speaker 1>a section about four feet wide ripped away from the

547
00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:14.680
<v Speaker 1>posts and folded backward, like someone had peeled open a

548
00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:17.960
<v Speaker 1>tin can. The remaining three goats were huddled in the

549
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:21.119
<v Speaker 1>corner of their shelter, shaking. One of them had a

550
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:24.960
<v Speaker 1>gash on its flank, not deep, but long, like something

551
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>with claws had swiped at it and missed a solid grip.

552
00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:31.119
<v Speaker 1>There was blood on the ground near the fence, more

553
00:29:31.160 --> 00:29:35.000
<v Speaker 1>than the previous times, and there were tracks. My mom

554
00:29:35.079 --> 00:29:38.240
<v Speaker 1>asked what kind of tracks. My dad looked at me again,

555
00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:42.640
<v Speaker 1>that same look. Then he said they were big canine,

556
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>but big, too big to be any dog he'd ever seen.

557
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I didn't say a word. I didn't say I told

558
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:51.920
<v Speaker 1>you so. I didn't remind him about the tracks I'd

559
00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:54.599
<v Speaker 1>found at the creek in June. I just sat on

560
00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:57.240
<v Speaker 1>the stairs and listened to my parents talking low voices

561
00:29:57.279 --> 00:29:59.799
<v Speaker 1>at the kitchen table, and I felt a cold six

562
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.400
<v Speaker 1>satisfaction that I'd been right, mixed with a much larger,

563
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>much heavier terror about what being right actually meant. Stay

564
00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:10.559
<v Speaker 1>tuned for more Backwoods Bigfoot stories. We'll be back after

565
00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:15.359
<v Speaker 1>these messages. The next morning, my dad moved the remaining

566
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:18.640
<v Speaker 1>goats into the barn. Something changed in the house after

567
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:22.440
<v Speaker 1>that night. It's hard to explain the atmosphere, but it

568
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>was like a pressure, like the air before a thunderstorm,

569
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>that thick electric heaviness that makes it hard to take

570
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:33.519
<v Speaker 1>a full breath. Everyone felt it. Beth stopped complaining about

571
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:37.759
<v Speaker 1>being bored and started finding reasons to stay inside. My mom,

572
00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>who'd been making an effort to be cheerful about the

573
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:45.079
<v Speaker 1>move all summer, went quiet. She cooked, she cleaned, she

574
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:48.240
<v Speaker 1>did laundry, but she didn't hum while she worked anymore,

575
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:51.240
<v Speaker 1>and she started keeping the curtains closed on the south

576
00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:54.640
<v Speaker 1>facing windows, the ones that looked out toward the woods.

577
00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:58.680
<v Speaker 1>My dad threw himself into fortifying things. He put up

578
00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:01.039
<v Speaker 1>floodlights on the barn on the back of the house,

579
00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:03.880
<v Speaker 1>the big Haligen kind that lit up the yard like

580
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:08.200
<v Speaker 1>a car dealership. He strung more electric fence. He started

581
00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>driving the perimeter of the property every evening before dark,

582
00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>slow loops in the truck with the window down, looking

583
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:17.559
<v Speaker 1>and listening. He never told us what he was looking for.

584
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:20.920
<v Speaker 1>He didn't have to. I spent most of my time

585
00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:23.400
<v Speaker 1>on the front porch, which faced the gravel road in

586
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:26.559
<v Speaker 1>the open fields to the north, away from the woods,

587
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:30.720
<v Speaker 1>away from whatever was back there. I read books, I

588
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:31.519
<v Speaker 1>drew pictures.

589
00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:32.599
<v Speaker 2>I tried to.

590
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Pretend that everything was normal, and that we were just

591
00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>a regular family settling into a new home. But at night,

592
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>when the sun went down and the darkness pushed in

593
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:44.400
<v Speaker 1>from the trees, I lay in my bed and listened,

594
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:49.440
<v Speaker 1>and the thing, whatever it was, kept getting closer. The

595
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:52.039
<v Speaker 1>sounds moved. That was the part that got to me

596
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the most. When I first heard the vocalizations in July,

597
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:58.200
<v Speaker 1>they'd come from deep in the timber, maybe half a

598
00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:01.240
<v Speaker 1>mile away or more, echoing up from the creek valley.

599
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:05.799
<v Speaker 1>By mid August, they were closer, a quarter mile maybe less,

600
00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:09.759
<v Speaker 1>and they weren't just coming from one direction anymore. I'd

601
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:11.960
<v Speaker 1>hear a call from the south, and then a few

602
00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:16.519
<v Speaker 1>minutes later a response from the east. Then silence, then

603
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:19.480
<v Speaker 1>movement in the brush behind the barn, too heavy and

604
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.839
<v Speaker 1>too deliberate to be a raccoon or a possum. I

605
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:26.240
<v Speaker 1>started sleeping with my window closed every night, heat or

606
00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:30.039
<v Speaker 1>no heat. I'd lie there in that sweltering upstairs room,

607
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:32.799
<v Speaker 1>drenched in sweat, with the covers pulled up to my

608
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>chin like a little kid, and I'd listen to things

609
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:39.119
<v Speaker 1>move in the darkness outside my window. One night near

610
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:41.880
<v Speaker 1>the end of August, I heard footsteps on the porch roof.

611
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:44.720
<v Speaker 1>My bedroom was on the second floor, and the porch

612
00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:48.119
<v Speaker 1>roof ran directly below my window. You could access it

613
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:50.519
<v Speaker 1>from outside if you climbed one of the porch posts,

614
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:53.119
<v Speaker 1>or from inside if you went through the hall window.

615
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I'd actually climbed out onto it myself a couple of

616
00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:59.640
<v Speaker 1>times during the day, just messing around. I knew what

617
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:02.440
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like when someone walked on it. The old

618
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:05.400
<v Speaker 1>tin roofing would flex and pop under your weight, a

619
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>very specific kind of metallic groaning. That's exactly what I heard.

620
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:14.759
<v Speaker 1>Three steps, slow, deliberate, moving from the edge of the

621
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>porch roof toward my window, the tin flexing and popping

622
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>under something heavy. Then it stopped right outside my window.

623
00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:26.039
<v Speaker 1>I was lying on my side facing the window, and

624
00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>the curtain was thin enough that I could see the

625
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:31.119
<v Speaker 1>general shape of the window frame against the slightly lighter

626
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:35.440
<v Speaker 1>darkness outside. I couldn't see anything standing there, but I

627
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:38.160
<v Speaker 1>could feel it. That same feeling I'd had in the

628
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:42.559
<v Speaker 1>woods back in June amplified by a thousand. Every nerve

629
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>in my body was firing. I was shaking so hard

630
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:48.920
<v Speaker 1>the bed frame was vibrating against the wall. I tried

631
00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:52.319
<v Speaker 1>to call for my dad. My throat wouldn't work. I

632
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:54.640
<v Speaker 1>opened my mouth and nothing came out but a dry,

633
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>strangled whisper that wouldn't have carried past the foot of

634
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:02.640
<v Speaker 1>my bed. Then I heard breathing, heavy, slow, rhythmic breathing

635
00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:05.960
<v Speaker 1>right on the other side of the glass, deep and

636
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:09.360
<v Speaker 1>ragged and close, close enough that if the window had

637
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:11.559
<v Speaker 1>been open, I would have felt it on my face.

638
00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how long it lasted. It felt like hours.

639
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:19.199
<v Speaker 1>It was probably three or four minutes. Then the tin

640
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:22.679
<v Speaker 1>popped again, two steps moving away from the window, and

641
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I heard something drop off the edge of the porch

642
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:28.599
<v Speaker 1>roof and land in the yard below. Not a small drop, either,

643
00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:31.639
<v Speaker 1>The impact was heavy enough that I felt a faint

644
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:34.760
<v Speaker 1>vibration through the house frame. I didn't sleep for the

645
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:37.880
<v Speaker 1>rest of the night. I lay there, rigid, staring at

646
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.760
<v Speaker 1>the window until the sky started to lighten and I

647
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:43.719
<v Speaker 1>could hear birds singing. Then I got up and went

648
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:46.159
<v Speaker 1>to the window and looked at the porch roof. There

649
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:50.239
<v Speaker 1>were scratches in the tent long parallel scratches, four of

650
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:53.440
<v Speaker 1>them spaced about an inch apart, running in the direction

651
00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:57.400
<v Speaker 1>of my window. They hadn't been there before. I told

652
00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:00.719
<v Speaker 1>my dad that morning, all of it everything I'd been

653
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:04.760
<v Speaker 1>holding back, the feeling of being watched since June, the

654
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:08.559
<v Speaker 1>tracks at the creek, the vocalizations, the way the sounds

655
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:11.079
<v Speaker 1>had been getting closer, and what had happened on the

656
00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:15.519
<v Speaker 1>porch roof during the night. He listened without interrupting. When

657
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I finished, he went outside and looked at the porch roof.

658
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:21.559
<v Speaker 1>He stood on a step ladder and examined the scratches.

659
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:25.199
<v Speaker 1>He walked the perimeter of the house, looking at the ground.

660
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Then he came inside and sat down at the kitchen

661
00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:31.599
<v Speaker 1>table and was quiet for a while. My mom asked

662
00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:34.440
<v Speaker 1>what was going on. My dad told her what I'd said.

663
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Beth was there too, and her face went from bored

664
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:41.480
<v Speaker 1>indifference to wide eyed fear in about three seconds. My

665
00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:45.079
<v Speaker 1>mom started asking questions what kind of animal could climb.

666
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Onto a roof? Was it a bear?

667
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Should they call animal control? My dad said he didn't

668
00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:52.559
<v Speaker 1>know what it was, but he was going to call

669
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:55.280
<v Speaker 1>the conservation agent in Salem and see if there'd been

670
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:58.760
<v Speaker 1>any reports of large predators in the area. He made

671
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:02.000
<v Speaker 1>the call that afternoon. The conservation agent told him there

672
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:04.960
<v Speaker 1>were black bears in the region, though they were uncommon,

673
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:08.320
<v Speaker 1>and that there'd been no recent reports of aggressive animal

674
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:12.280
<v Speaker 1>activity in Dent County. He suggested setting up a trail camera,

675
00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:15.719
<v Speaker 1>which my dad didn't have, or putting out a live trap,

676
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:18.119
<v Speaker 1>which wouldn't do any good for something big enough to

677
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:21.239
<v Speaker 1>tear through hog wire. The agent said he'd make a

678
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:23.599
<v Speaker 1>note of the report and check in if anything else

679
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:24.079
<v Speaker 1>came up.

680
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:26.880
<v Speaker 2>That was it. That was all the help we got.

681
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:30.159
<v Speaker 1>My dad spent the rest of that day reinforcing the

682
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:34.079
<v Speaker 1>downstairs windows with plywood on the inside. My mom didn't

683
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:36.119
<v Speaker 1>say a word about it, which told me she was

684
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:39.440
<v Speaker 1>more scared than she was letting on. Beth helped without

685
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:43.280
<v Speaker 1>being asked, which told me the same thing. That night,

686
00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:46.440
<v Speaker 1>my dad moved my mattress into my parents' room. He

687
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:48.960
<v Speaker 1>put Beth in there too, on a sleeping bag on

688
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:52.880
<v Speaker 1>the floor. He locked every door and window, loaded his rifle,

689
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:55.119
<v Speaker 1>and sat in a chair in the upstairs hallway with

690
00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:58.000
<v Speaker 1>the weapon across his lap. He told us he was

691
00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:00.639
<v Speaker 1>just being careful. He told us there was nothing to

692
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:04.000
<v Speaker 1>worry about, But he sat in that hallway all night,

693
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:06.599
<v Speaker 1>and I could see the outline of the rifle barrel

694
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:09.599
<v Speaker 1>against the wall every time I opened my eyes. He

695
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:11.960
<v Speaker 1>did the same thing the next night and the night

696
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:15.440
<v Speaker 1>after that. My mom would bring him coffee around midnight,

697
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:18.679
<v Speaker 1>and I'd hear them whispering in the hallway, their voices

698
00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:20.880
<v Speaker 1>too low for me to make out the words, but

699
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:25.440
<v Speaker 1>the tone unmistakable. They were scared, both of them, and

700
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:27.519
<v Speaker 1>they were trying to figure out what to do without

701
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:31.280
<v Speaker 1>terrifying their children any more than we already were. The

702
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:35.280
<v Speaker 1>truth is, Beth and I were already past terrified. We'd

703
00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:37.440
<v Speaker 1>gone through fear and come out the other side into

704
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:42.440
<v Speaker 1>something that felt more like resignation. We couldn't leave, not immediately.

705
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:46.000
<v Speaker 1>My dad had sunk everything we had into the property

706
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:48.840
<v Speaker 1>and the move. There was no apartment waiting for us

707
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:51.000
<v Speaker 1>back in Kentucky, no backup plan.

708
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:52.639
<v Speaker 2>We were stuck on.

709
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:55.000
<v Speaker 1>This piece of land with whatever was in those woods,

710
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:58.800
<v Speaker 1>and the only thing standing between us and it was

711
00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:00.880
<v Speaker 1>a man with a bolt ast action rifle and a

712
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:04.400
<v Speaker 1>set of Halagen floodlights that only illuminated about one hundred

713
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:07.119
<v Speaker 1>yards of darkness out of the thousands of acres that

714
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:11.480
<v Speaker 1>surrounded us. Three days later, we saw it. I've been

715
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:14.480
<v Speaker 1>dreading this part of the story. I've been writing toward

716
00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:16.400
<v Speaker 1>it like you'd walk toward the edge of a cliff,

717
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:19.480
<v Speaker 1>knowing you have to look down eventually, but putting it

718
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:22.920
<v Speaker 1>off as long as possible, because describing what we saw

719
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:26.519
<v Speaker 1>that night means committing it to something permanent. It means

720
00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:28.840
<v Speaker 1>taking the thing that lives in the back of my mind,

721
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:32.519
<v Speaker 1>the thing I've spent forty years trying to rationalize away,

722
00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:35.440
<v Speaker 1>and putting it into words that other people will read.

723
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:39.679
<v Speaker 1>It was September first, the last day of summer technically,

724
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:42.719
<v Speaker 1>though school in our area didn't start until the ninth.

725
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:46.440
<v Speaker 1>The weather had broken a little. A cold front had

726
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:49.280
<v Speaker 1>come through over the weekend, and the temperature had dropped

727
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:52.440
<v Speaker 1>into the seventies during the day, low sixties at night.

728
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:57.000
<v Speaker 1>It felt like relief after months of suffocating heat. We'd

729
00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:59.760
<v Speaker 1>been on edge for days, all of us. But nothing

730
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:03.639
<v Speaker 1>had happened since the porch roof incident. No sounds, no

731
00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:06.559
<v Speaker 1>missing goats, though they were locked in the barn now

732
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:09.519
<v Speaker 1>behind heavy doors that my dad had reinforced with two

733
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:14.000
<v Speaker 1>by sixes bolted across the frames. No tracks, no signs,

734
00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:17.519
<v Speaker 1>no feelings of being watched. It was like something had

735
00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:20.440
<v Speaker 1>pulled back, retreated to whatever part of the timber it

736
00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:24.079
<v Speaker 1>called home, and left us alone. I was starting to

737
00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:27.159
<v Speaker 1>hope it was over. Maybe whatever it was had moved on.

738
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:30.679
<v Speaker 1>Maybe the floodlights and the activity around the property had

739
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:31.400
<v Speaker 1>scared it off.

740
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it had been a.

741
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:36.599
<v Speaker 1>Bear after all, a big, weird, behaving bear that had

742
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:40.880
<v Speaker 1>found easier picking somewhere else. That hope lasted until about

743
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:43.400
<v Speaker 1>nine thirty in the evening. We were all in the

744
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:44.159
<v Speaker 1>living room.

745
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:45.239
<v Speaker 2>My dad was.

746
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Reading a Louis Lamore paperback. My mom was working on

747
00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:51.199
<v Speaker 1>a cross stitch. Beth was lying on the couch with

748
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:53.800
<v Speaker 1>a magazine. I was on the floor drawing in.

749
00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:54.519
<v Speaker 2>A sketch book.

750
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:57.679
<v Speaker 1>The TV was off, the windows were closed, but the

751
00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:00.119
<v Speaker 1>curtains were opened because the evening was cool and the

752
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:03.960
<v Speaker 1>floodlights outside made the yard visible. We could see the barn,

753
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:06.400
<v Speaker 1>the fence line, and the first row of trees at

754
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:07.280
<v Speaker 1>the edge of the timber.

755
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:09.000
<v Speaker 2>The dog started it.

756
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:12.199
<v Speaker 1>We'd gotten two dogs in August, a pair of hound

757
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:14.480
<v Speaker 1>mixes from a guy at the feed store who had

758
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:17.880
<v Speaker 1>a litter he was giving away. They were young, maybe

759
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:20.519
<v Speaker 1>seven or eight months old, but they had good noses,

760
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:22.920
<v Speaker 1>and my dad figured they'd serve as an early warning

761
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:25.679
<v Speaker 1>system if nothing else. He'd set them up in a

762
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:27.800
<v Speaker 1>pen next to the barn with a doghouse and a

763
00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:31.239
<v Speaker 1>chain link run. They started barking at nine point thirty.

764
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Not their normal barking, the kind they did when a

765
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:37.519
<v Speaker 1>raccoon came around or a car turned down the gravel road.

766
00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:44.320
<v Speaker 1>This was different, frantic, hysterical, high pitched, yelping barks punctuated

767
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:48.440
<v Speaker 1>with long, keening wines, the sound of dogs that are terrified.

768
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:51.960
<v Speaker 1>My dad put down his book and stood up. He

769
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.599
<v Speaker 1>went to the window that faced the backyard and looked out.

770
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:57.840
<v Speaker 1>From where I was sitting, I could see his reflection

771
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:01.679
<v Speaker 1>in the glass, and I watched his brush and change.

772
00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:04.920
<v Speaker 1>It went from alert to confused to something I'd never

773
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:09.239
<v Speaker 1>seen on his face before, something close to disbelief. He

774
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:14.599
<v Speaker 1>said one word, He said, Helen, my mom's name. My

775
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:17.199
<v Speaker 1>mom got up and went to the window. She looked out.

776
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:20.440
<v Speaker 1>She didn't say anything for about five seconds. Then she

777
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:23.760
<v Speaker 1>grabbed my dad's arm and said, oh my god. I

778
00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:27.159
<v Speaker 1>was on my feet by then, so was Beth. We

779
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:29.039
<v Speaker 1>both went to the window and looked out into the

780
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:31.960
<v Speaker 1>floodlit yard. It was standing at the edge of the

781
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:35.679
<v Speaker 1>tree line about eighty yards from the house, right where

782
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:39.480
<v Speaker 1>the mode grass ended and the brush began, standing upright

783
00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:43.119
<v Speaker 1>on two legs. I need to slow down here because

784
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:45.719
<v Speaker 1>this is important and I want to get it exactly right.

785
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:49.599
<v Speaker 1>The floodlights were bright, bright enough that we could see

786
00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:52.679
<v Speaker 1>the barn clearly, see the goat pan, see the fence

787
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:55.800
<v Speaker 1>posts and the wire, and the individual blades of grass

788
00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:58.519
<v Speaker 1>in the yard. The thing at the tree line was

789
00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:01.239
<v Speaker 1>at the far edge of that light, partially lit and

790
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:05.239
<v Speaker 1>partially in shadow, but we could see enough. It was tall.

791
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:09.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean six feet tall, I mean tall. My

792
00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:12.480
<v Speaker 1>dad estimated it later at somewhere between seven and eight

793
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:15.559
<v Speaker 1>feet based on the tree. It was standing near a

794
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:17.960
<v Speaker 1>ceaar that he'd trimmed the lower branches off of the

795
00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:21.760
<v Speaker 1>week before, and knew the height of it stood upright

796
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.559
<v Speaker 1>the way a person stands with its shoulders back and

797
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:27.840
<v Speaker 1>its head up. But everything about its proportions was wrong.

798
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:31.639
<v Speaker 1>The legs were too long relative to the torso, and

799
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:33.440
<v Speaker 1>they were bent at the knee in a way that

800
00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:38.360
<v Speaker 1>human legs don't bend. A reverse angle digitigrade like a

801
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:41.920
<v Speaker 1>dog standing on its hind legs. The arms hung down

802
00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:45.360
<v Speaker 1>past its waist, long and thick, and the hands, if

803
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:48.519
<v Speaker 1>you can call them hands, looked enormous, even from eighty

804
00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:52.199
<v Speaker 1>yards away. But the head, that's what made my mom

805
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:55.159
<v Speaker 1>grab my dad's arm. That's what made my sister start

806
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:58.639
<v Speaker 1>to cry without making a sound. The head was not human.

807
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:02.800
<v Speaker 1>It was along gate with a distinct muzzle, a snout,

808
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:05.559
<v Speaker 1>pointed ears that stood erect on top of the skull.

809
00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:09.960
<v Speaker 1>It looked like a dog's head, a wolf's head sitting

810
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:12.000
<v Speaker 1>on top of a body that was built like a man,

811
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:14.920
<v Speaker 1>but proportioned like nothing I'd ever seen in any book

812
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:19.199
<v Speaker 1>or nature show or nightmare. The thing's body was covered

813
00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:20.880
<v Speaker 1>in dark hair or fur.

814
00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:21.639
<v Speaker 2>I should say.

815
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:24.559
<v Speaker 1>It was hard to make out exact color under the

816
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:29.000
<v Speaker 1>floodlights at that distance, but it looked dark brown, maybe charcoal,

817
00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:32.239
<v Speaker 1>thick and uneven, the way a wild animal's coat looks

818
00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:36.119
<v Speaker 1>in late summer. You could see the muscle underneath. That's

819
00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:39.280
<v Speaker 1>the detail that sticks with me most stubbornly, more than

820
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:42.360
<v Speaker 1>the head, more than the eyes. You could see the

821
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:45.320
<v Speaker 1>musculature of this thing through its fur, the way you

822
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:47.760
<v Speaker 1>can see the muscles on a horse or a large dog,

823
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:49.400
<v Speaker 1>and it was massive.

824
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:50.920
<v Speaker 2>The chest was.

825
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:54.159
<v Speaker 1>Broad and deep, the shoulders were wider than any man's

826
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I've ever seen, and the arms looked like they belonged

827
00:43:57.440 --> 00:44:01.159
<v Speaker 1>on something designed to break things, to tear things apart.

828
00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Its eyes caught the floodlight. They reflected back, the way

829
00:44:05.880 --> 00:44:09.519
<v Speaker 1>a dog's eyes do when headlights hit them, a yellowish

830
00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:12.800
<v Speaker 1>green glow. Two points of light set wide on that

831
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:17.400
<v Speaker 1>canine skull angled slightly forward, staring directly at our house,

832
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:21.719
<v Speaker 1>directly at our window. No one moved, no one spoke.

833
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:26.039
<v Speaker 1>We stood there, the four of us, pressed against the glass,

834
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:29.840
<v Speaker 1>looking at something that should not exist. The dogs had

835
00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:34.159
<v Speaker 1>stopped barking. They'd gone completely silent, which was somehow worse

836
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:37.360
<v Speaker 1>than the frantic noise they'd been making before. The thing

837
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:41.719
<v Speaker 1>stood there for probably thirty seconds, maybe forty five. Its

838
00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:44.760
<v Speaker 1>head moved slightly, tilting to one side, the way a

839
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:46.679
<v Speaker 1>dog does when it's listening to something.

840
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:48.599
<v Speaker 2>Then it took a step.

841
00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Forward, one long, deliberate stride, bringing it from the edge

842
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:56.199
<v Speaker 1>of the trees into the open grass. My dad's hand

843
00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:57.960
<v Speaker 1>was on the window frame, and I could see.

844
00:44:57.800 --> 00:44:58.840
<v Speaker 2>His knuckles were white.

845
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:04.519
<v Speaker 1>He said, stay here, he said, it quietly, firmly, the

846
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:06.840
<v Speaker 1>way he said things when he expected to be obeyed

847
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:11.079
<v Speaker 1>without question. Stay tuned for more Backwoods Bigfoot stories. We'll

848
00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:15.639
<v Speaker 1>be back after these messages. Then he moved away from

849
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:17.679
<v Speaker 1>the window and picked up his rifle from where he

850
00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:20.960
<v Speaker 1>leaned it against the wall. My mom said, his name,

851
00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:25.639
<v Speaker 1>just his name, one word, but it carried everything in it.

852
00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:29.599
<v Speaker 1>Don't go out there, don't open that door. Whatever that

853
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:31.679
<v Speaker 1>thing is, you're not going to fight it with a

854
00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:35.880
<v Speaker 1>rifle in the dark. My dad chambered around. The sound

855
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:38.599
<v Speaker 1>of the bolt closing was the loudest thing I'd ever heard.

856
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:42.800
<v Speaker 1>He didn't go outside. Instead, he went to the back door,

857
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:46.639
<v Speaker 1>unlocked it, pushed open the screen, and fired a single

858
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:49.920
<v Speaker 1>round into the air. The shot cracked across the yard

859
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:53.039
<v Speaker 1>like thunder, echoing off the barn in the hills beyond.

860
00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:59.679
<v Speaker 1>The thing reacted instantly. It dropped, not fell, dropped. It

861
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:02.679
<v Speaker 1>went from standing upright to a crouched position on all

862
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:05.880
<v Speaker 1>fours in a motion so fast and so fluid that

863
00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:09.360
<v Speaker 1>it barely registered. One second it was standing there like

864
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:12.280
<v Speaker 1>a man, seven or eight feet of dark mass against

865
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:15.400
<v Speaker 1>the tree line, and the next it was down low

866
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:19.960
<v Speaker 1>to the ground. Its posture completely changed, its silhouette, suddenly

867
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:21.559
<v Speaker 1>more animal than anything else.

868
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:23.079
<v Speaker 2>And then it ran.

869
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:26.920
<v Speaker 1>It ran toward the tree line on all fours, covering

870
00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:29.679
<v Speaker 1>the distance between the open yard and the timber in

871
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:33.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe three or four strides, each one launching it forward

872
00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:37.559
<v Speaker 1>an impossible distance. The way it moved, I keep coming

873
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:41.239
<v Speaker 1>back to that, the sheer mechanical impossibility of something that

874
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:45.280
<v Speaker 1>large moving that fast. Its limbs didn't churn the way

875
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:48.559
<v Speaker 1>a dogs do when it runs. They reached and pulled

876
00:46:48.920 --> 00:46:53.800
<v Speaker 1>each stride, deliberate but blindingly quick. The body low and streamlined,

877
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:56.679
<v Speaker 1>eating up ground like the earth was on a conveyor belt,

878
00:46:56.760 --> 00:46:58.920
<v Speaker 1>rolling backward underneath it.

879
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:00.119
<v Speaker 2>It moved with a speed.

880
00:46:59.880 --> 00:47:02.719
<v Speaker 1>That but I've never seen in any animal, not a deer,

881
00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:07.480
<v Speaker 1>not a horse, nothing. The way its body moved, the

882
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:11.360
<v Speaker 1>way its limbs coordinated, the way it transitioned from bipedal

883
00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:15.239
<v Speaker 1>to quadrupedle like flipping a switch. There was a terrible

884
00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:18.000
<v Speaker 1>fluid grace to it that still makes my stomach turn

885
00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:20.719
<v Speaker 1>when I think about it. It hit the tree line

886
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:25.000
<v Speaker 1>and vanished, just gone, swallowed by the timber in an instant,

887
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:31.159
<v Speaker 1>and then the night was silent, completely, absolutely deathly silent.

888
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:34.599
<v Speaker 1>My dad stood in the doorway for a long time,

889
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:38.119
<v Speaker 1>the rifle at his shoulder, scanning the tree line.

890
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Then he came.

891
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:42.599
<v Speaker 1>Inside, closed the door, locked it, and put the chain on.

892
00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:45.800
<v Speaker 1>He turned to look at us, and his face was gray.

893
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:49.559
<v Speaker 1>My mom was holding Beth, who was crying freely. Now

894
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I was standing at the window, still staring out at

895
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:55.760
<v Speaker 1>the empty yard, my heart hammering so hard I could

896
00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:59.159
<v Speaker 1>feel it in my fingertips. Nobody said anything about what

897
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:02.920
<v Speaker 1>we'd seen. Not that night, we sat in the living

898
00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:05.079
<v Speaker 1>room with every light in the house on and the

899
00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:07.679
<v Speaker 1>rifle on the table, and we didn't talk about it.

900
00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:10.800
<v Speaker 1>My dad sat in a chair facing the back door.

901
00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:13.920
<v Speaker 1>My mom sat on the couch with her arm around Beth.

902
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I sat on the floor with my back against the couch,

903
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:20.639
<v Speaker 1>staring at nothing, running through what i'd just seen over

904
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:23.320
<v Speaker 1>and over and over in my mind, trying to make

905
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:26.559
<v Speaker 1>it into something I could understand. We stayed like that

906
00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:29.360
<v Speaker 1>until the sun came up. We left the farm eleven

907
00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:32.840
<v Speaker 1>days later. My dad found a rental in Salem, a

908
00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:36.280
<v Speaker 1>small house on a regular street with neighbors on both sides,

909
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:39.079
<v Speaker 1>and street lights and traffic and all the things I'd

910
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:42.199
<v Speaker 1>never thought i'd be grateful for He told people he

911
00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:45.679
<v Speaker 1>decided farming wasn't for him, that the property needed more

912
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:49.119
<v Speaker 1>work than he'd anticipated, that my mom missed being closer

913
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:53.199
<v Speaker 1>to town. Nobody questioned it, nobody had any reason to.

914
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:56.599
<v Speaker 1>He sold the property the following spring to a timber

915
00:48:56.599 --> 00:48:59.679
<v Speaker 1>company that wanted the land for the trees. I don't

916
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:02.719
<v Speaker 1>know if anyone ever lived in that house again. I

917
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:05.719
<v Speaker 1>drove past the turnoff about fifteen years ago on a

918
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:08.480
<v Speaker 1>trip through the area for work, and I slowed down

919
00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:10.719
<v Speaker 1>at the gravel road and thought about driving back in,

920
00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:14.199
<v Speaker 1>just to see, just to know if the house was

921
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:17.599
<v Speaker 1>still standing, if the barn was still there, if the

922
00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:20.440
<v Speaker 1>woods still felt the way they'd felt in nineteen eighty five.

923
00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I sat at that turnoff for probably two minutes, engine idling,

924
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:28.840
<v Speaker 1>hand on the steering wheel. I didn't turn in. I

925
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:32.599
<v Speaker 1>drove on, and I haven't been back since. Some part

926
00:49:32.639 --> 00:49:34.840
<v Speaker 1>of me is ashamed of that. Some part of me

927
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:37.559
<v Speaker 1>thinks a braver man would have gone back, would have

928
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:40.400
<v Speaker 1>walked those trails again, would have stood at that tree

929
00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:42.599
<v Speaker 1>line in the daylight and faced the thing that had

930
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:44.159
<v Speaker 1>run him off forty years ago.

931
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:47.679
<v Speaker 2>But I'm not that man. I've made my peace with that.

932
00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Whatever lived on that property earned my fear, and I

933
00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:54.760
<v Speaker 1>don't see any reason to test it. During those eleven

934
00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:58.000
<v Speaker 1>days between the sighting and our move, my dad didn't sleep.

935
00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:01.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean that literally. I'd get up at two three

936
00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:03.480
<v Speaker 1>in the morning and he'd be in the hallway or

937
00:50:03.519 --> 00:50:07.199
<v Speaker 1>on the back porch with his rifle, watching the tree line.

938
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:09.039
<v Speaker 1>He put the remaining goats in the back of his

939
00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:12.239
<v Speaker 1>truck and drove them to Krieger's place. He boarded up

940
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:16.360
<v Speaker 1>the downstairs windows permanently. He stopped going out past the barn.

941
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:19.000
<v Speaker 1>He stopped walking the fence line.

942
00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:19.800
<v Speaker 2>He was afraid.

943
00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:23.599
<v Speaker 1>My dad, who'd carried an M sixteen through rice Paddies

944
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:26.400
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty eight, who told me my whole life

945
00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:28.599
<v Speaker 1>that fear was natural, but you don't let it make

946
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:31.360
<v Speaker 1>your decisions, was afraid in a way that I didn't

947
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:34.840
<v Speaker 1>know he was capable of. We never discussed what we saw,

948
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:39.320
<v Speaker 1>not directly, not in clear terms. Over the years, my

949
00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:41.960
<v Speaker 1>mom would sometimes refer to that trouble at the farm

950
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:45.199
<v Speaker 1>and change the subject. Beth and I would circle around

951
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:48.679
<v Speaker 1>it at holidays, saying things like that was a weird summer,

952
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:51.880
<v Speaker 1>and nodding at each other and leaving it there. My

953
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:55.199
<v Speaker 1>dad never brought it up, not once in the twenty

954
00:50:55.239 --> 00:50:57.599
<v Speaker 1>three years between that night and the night he died

955
00:50:57.639 --> 00:51:00.760
<v Speaker 1>of a heart attack in two thousand and eight. The

956
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:03.199
<v Speaker 1>closest he ever came was one evening about a year

957
00:51:03.239 --> 00:51:06.639
<v Speaker 1>before he passed, sitting on my back deck in Kansas City,

958
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:08.880
<v Speaker 1>when he looked at me out of nowhere and said,

959
00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I should have believed you about those tracks.

960
00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:12.719
<v Speaker 2>That was it.

961
00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:16.199
<v Speaker 1>That was the only acknowledgment I ever got from him.

962
00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:18.239
<v Speaker 1>I've spent a lot of years thinking about what was

963
00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:21.360
<v Speaker 1>on that property with us. I've considered everything I can

964
00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:26.119
<v Speaker 1>think of. Bear that was the first and most obvious explanation,

965
00:51:26.639 --> 00:51:28.360
<v Speaker 1>and it's the one I tried to believe for a

966
00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:31.760
<v Speaker 1>long time. But bears don't stand seven feet tall in

967
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:37.199
<v Speaker 1>an upright posture. Bears don't have elongated canine skulls. Bears

968
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:39.360
<v Speaker 1>don't move on all fours at the kind of speed

969
00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:42.280
<v Speaker 1>I saw that night, and bears don't leave tracks that

970
00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:46.760
<v Speaker 1>look like a massive dog's pawprint. Feral dog doesn't work,

971
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:52.639
<v Speaker 1>not even close. A dog on its hind legs is awkward, temporary, unstable.

972
00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:55.800
<v Speaker 1>What I saw was standing upright with the comfort and

973
00:51:55.840 --> 00:51:57.840
<v Speaker 1>ease of a creature that was built to do it,

974
00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:01.360
<v Speaker 1>and no dog, no matter how large, could cover the

975
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:04.079
<v Speaker 1>kind of ground this thing covered on all fours in

976
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the span of three or four strides a person in

977
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:11.079
<v Speaker 1>a costume. I've heard this theory applied to other sightings,

978
00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:14.159
<v Speaker 1>and it's insulting. A person in a costume does not

979
00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:17.280
<v Speaker 1>leave claw marks on a tin roof. A person in

980
00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:20.119
<v Speaker 1>a costume does not drag a sixty pound goat through

981
00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:23.599
<v Speaker 1>a torn section of hogwire and into the woods. A

982
00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:26.199
<v Speaker 1>person in a costume does not have eyes that reflect

983
00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:29.440
<v Speaker 1>light the way an animal's eyes do. It's not something

984
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:32.280
<v Speaker 1>you can fake with a rubber mask. So what does

985
00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:34.639
<v Speaker 1>that leave I didn't know what to call it for

986
00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:37.320
<v Speaker 1>most of my life. I didn't have a name for it.

987
00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:40.119
<v Speaker 1>When I was a teenager, I read some books about

988
00:52:40.159 --> 00:52:42.960
<v Speaker 1>were wolf legends and thought maybe that was the closest fit.

989
00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:47.760
<v Speaker 1>But the whole supernatural transformation thing didn't feel right. This

990
00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:50.480
<v Speaker 1>wasn't something that used to be a person. This was

991
00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:55.079
<v Speaker 1>an animal, a predator, a living, breathing creature that occupied

992
00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:59.679
<v Speaker 1>a territory, hunted prey, made vocalizations to communicate with others

993
00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:02.239
<v Speaker 1>of its kind, and had a physical form that was

994
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:06.000
<v Speaker 1>consistent and real and left tangible evidence of its existence.

995
00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:09.639
<v Speaker 1>When I found your show, Brian and started hearing other

996
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:12.679
<v Speaker 1>people describe encounters with something they called a dog man,

997
00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:15.360
<v Speaker 1>I felt like someone had turned a light on in

998
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:18.000
<v Speaker 1>a room I'd been sitting in for forty years. The

999
00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:23.480
<v Speaker 1>descriptions matched. The elongated canine head, the upright stance, the

1000
00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:28.079
<v Speaker 1>digital grade legs, the disproportionately long arms, the speed on

1001
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:33.559
<v Speaker 1>all fours, the vocalizations, the predatory behavior toward livestock, the

1002
00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:36.679
<v Speaker 1>way it watched and studied before it acted. I don't

1003
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:39.000
<v Speaker 1>know what a dog man is. I don't know if

1004
00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:43.239
<v Speaker 1>it's an undiscovered species, a relic predator that somehow survived

1005
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:47.239
<v Speaker 1>in pockets of deep wilderness, or something that defies biological

1006
00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:51.000
<v Speaker 1>classification altogether. What I know is that my family and

1007
00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:53.760
<v Speaker 1>I lived with one, maybe two of them, for an

1008
00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:57.280
<v Speaker 1>entire summer, and it was the most frightening experience of

1009
00:53:57.320 --> 00:54:01.199
<v Speaker 1>any of our lives. I'm not looking for val I'm

1010
00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:03.400
<v Speaker 1>not looking for anyone to tell me they believe me.

1011
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I know what I saw, my mom knows what she saw,

1012
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:10.719
<v Speaker 1>my sister knows what she saw, and somewhere in whatever

1013
00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:14.840
<v Speaker 1>quiet place my dad occupies. Now he knows too. I

1014
00:54:14.920 --> 00:54:17.719
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to finally tell someone the whole story, from

1015
00:54:17.719 --> 00:54:20.960
<v Speaker 1>the beginning to the end, without leaving anything out, and

1016
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:24.159
<v Speaker 1>without softening it to make it easier to hear. I've

1017
00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:27.679
<v Speaker 1>been caring this for forty years, Brian, forty years of knowing

1018
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:31.039
<v Speaker 1>that something impossible was real and not having anyone to tell.

1019
00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:34.760
<v Speaker 1>So there it is, the summer of nineteen eighty five,

1020
00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:39.880
<v Speaker 1>the Culture Farm, Dent County, Missouri. Whatever was in those woods,

1021
00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:44.320
<v Speaker 1>it's still out there somewhere. I believe that the Ozarks

1022
00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:46.760
<v Speaker 1>are vast and deep and full of places where people

1023
00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:50.559
<v Speaker 1>don't go, miles and miles of unbroken timber, where things

1024
00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:53.519
<v Speaker 1>can live and move and hunt without ever being seen

1025
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:56.760
<v Speaker 1>by human eyes. And every once in a while, when

1026
00:54:56.800 --> 00:54:59.559
<v Speaker 1>the conditions are right, when someone moves into the wrong

1027
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:02.079
<v Speaker 1>piece of life land or walks the wrong trail at

1028
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:05.920
<v Speaker 1>the wrong time, those things make themselves known. I hope

1029
00:55:05.960 --> 00:55:08.119
<v Speaker 1>this story finds its way to someone who's had an

1030
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:11.639
<v Speaker 1>experience like mine, someone who's been carrying the weight of

1031
00:55:11.679 --> 00:55:14.840
<v Speaker 1>something they can explain, turning it over in their mind

1032
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:17.440
<v Speaker 1>at two in the morning, wondering if they imagined it

1033
00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:20.039
<v Speaker 1>wondering if they're the only person in the world who's

1034
00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:23.280
<v Speaker 1>ever seen something like that. If you're out there and

1035
00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:25.760
<v Speaker 1>you've seen what I've seen, I want you to know

1036
00:55:26.079 --> 00:55:31.079
<v Speaker 1>you're not crazy, you're not imagining things, and you're not alone.

1037
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:33.679
<v Speaker 1>There are more of us than you think, keeping quiet,

1038
00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:37.079
<v Speaker 1>carrying this weight, waiting for someone to give us permission

1039
00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:39.519
<v Speaker 1>to say it out loud. This is me saying it

1040
00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:43.639
<v Speaker 1>out loud forty years later, but I'm saying it. Thanks

1041
00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:46.119
<v Speaker 1>for reading this, Brian, Thanks for doing what you do

1042
00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:50.360
<v Speaker 1>with your show. It matters more than you probably realize.

1043
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:52.679
<v Speaker 1>You've given people like me a place to put something

1044
00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:55.800
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't fit anywhere else in our lives, and that's

1045
00:55:55.840 --> 00:55:57.199
<v Speaker 1>worth more than I can tell you.

1046
00:55:57.840 --> 00:56:57.039
<v Speaker 2>Kevin didn't di
