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And again, thank you so much for your support. I'm

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just I've been watching and listening to the confirmation hearing

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of Pete Hegseth or Secretary of Defense. And all right,

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so here is this socialist guy up in wherever northeast

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is stand Angus King?

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Speaker 3: You express that with approval, Senator, I'm very familiar with

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that as a concept, having spent a year at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba,

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guarding seven hundred of those that attacked us on nine eleven.

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Speaker 4: I just want to be clear, are we are we

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going to abide by the by the Geneva Convention and

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the prohibitions on torture or are we not As a circumstance.

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Speaker 3: As I've stated multiple times, the Geneva Conventions are what

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we base ours What an American first national security policy

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is not going to do is hand its prerogatives over

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to international bodies that make decisions about how our men

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and women make decisions on the battlefield. America first understands

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we send Americans for a clear mission and.

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Speaker 1: A clear objective.

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Speaker 3: We have equipped them properly for that objective, everything the

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very few, and then we stand behind them with the

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rules of engagement that allow them to fight decisively understanding

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America's energers.

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Speaker 4: Which is why we see I just have a few seconds.

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I was very disturbed in your opening state, but where

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you you talked about the priorities that you have. We

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will work with our partners and allies to deter aggression

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they know Pacific from the communist Chinese. There's not a

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mentioned in this statement about Ukraine or Russia. Is this

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code for We're going to abandon Ukraine?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Senator.

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Speaker 3: The president this is that's a presidential level policy decision.

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He's made it very clear that he would like to

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see a end to that conflict. We know who the

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aggressor is, we know who the good guy is. We'd

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like to see it as advantageous for the Ukrainians as possible,

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but that war needs.

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Speaker 4: You talk a lot about the terms of China. I

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would submit that Jijingping is watching what we do very carefully.

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If we abandon Ukraine, that would be the strongest single

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possible to Jijingping that he can take Taiwan without significant

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resistance from this country.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Senator.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean I think maybe having like a vegetable as

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a president that might also send a message to the Communists.

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Speaker 1: To mister Hedge's leadership record concern.

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Speaker 2: All right, so this is so that was Angus King,

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Senator Angus King. Yeah, like really focusing like a laser

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onto this idea that Hegzeth outlined in his book, talking

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about letting our troops go and fight and win with

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clear defined missions and exit strategies, so we are not

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bogged down in twenty plus years of war. You go in,

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you do the mission, you get out, and that's it. Right,

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that's a part of that. And we heard all of

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these stories at the time, right where troops on the

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battlefield were trying to trying to adhere to rules of

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engagement that made it impossible for them to carry out

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the mission objective for them to win. And that's what

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he's talking about that you start off at the you know,

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with he talked about these different echelons of or layers or.

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Speaker 1: Levels of.

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Speaker 2: Rules Geneva Convention, and then you've got this, you know,

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the Uniform Military or the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

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You have those rules, and then you have the rules

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of engagement. And by the time it filters all the

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way down through the ranks to what he when he

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was in the service as a major or sergeant major,

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he had to instruct all of the NATO troops that

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were coming in what the rules of engagement were. So

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heg Seth knew he knows what those rules are, and

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he was the guy who was first in through the door,

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kicking down the doors in these various war zones. He

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knows what the practical impact of those rules of engagement

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are on the troops. He would go through the door.

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One of the stories is that he would be first

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through the door. He would be the first one in.

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So this way, any of the people that were under

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his command, if they made the wrong decision, it would

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ruin their lives. So he would go in first. And

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Angus Smith or sorry, Angus King, tries to turn this

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into you support waterboarding and torture.

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Speaker 1: Like I thought Mazie Herono.

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Speaker 2: Was the village idiot that had broken containment, but it

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might actually be Angus King two. Maybe okay, maybe there

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are multiple villages here. They are from different sides of

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the country. King is from what Maine or something. Mazie

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Herono unable to ask a follow up question, likely because

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either she's drunk.

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Speaker 1: I'm kidding, it's not true. I don't know if she

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was or not, But like.

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Speaker 2: Those questions are scripted for her, and it is so

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obvious because she cannot think past the question mark in

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the sentence. So there's this lead in of false assumptions

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and smears and stupidity. Because it's maze Herono, there's always

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a heavy dose of stupidity. So you have this this

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narrative building in the front part of the question, and

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then a question that really isn't connected to the narrative

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or the smearing, and it's designed to get him to answer,

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please answer yes or no?

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Speaker 1: Yes or no? When did you stop beating your wife?

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Speaker 2: Yes or no? Like that doesn't even make sense, Senator,

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I'm gonna take that as a failure to answer, And

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then she just moves on so bad, almost as bad

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as Senator Kristen Gillibrand, who is in I think a

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perpetual screech. I'm not sure she has another setting in

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her delivery. It seems like just this perpetual screeching where

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and her wind up, her smear assumptions go on for

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like five minutes or something, and then makes all of

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these allegations and stuff you you. At one point she

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said that he had accused women of no not being competent,

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and he never he never said that. But Jellibrand just

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says it and then moves on, says a bunch of

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other stuff, other stuff, other stuff, other stuff. Sorry, others

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do other's dob by, there's stuff, and then throws out

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a question that's detached. Why don't you want women in

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the military. Okay, first off, I never said I don't

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want women in the military. Heg Seth is talking about

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high standards for all of the different missions, all of

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the different specializations, right, and so if you are a

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machine gunner, you have to be able to carry the

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freaking machine gun, like that's the standard. You have to

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be able to carry the weight, literally carry the weight.

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If you cannot meet that standard, then you should not

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have that role if you cannot meet the physical standards.

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You should not have the role that the physical standards require,

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because the weaponry doesn't get lighter. Right, the shells if

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you're you know, are in artillery, they were Tom Cotton

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mentioned this. A single artillery shell is like one hundred pounds.

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If you can't lift that thing, then you have no

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business getting an mos as a as an artillery amo loader.

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Speaker 1: Right. You shouldn't be able. You should not be put.

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Speaker 2: In charge of putting the shells into the weaponry if

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you cannot lift the shell. This seems so freaking basic

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and common sense that only Democrats, apparently on the Senate

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Arm Services Committee can be this subtuse. Of course, here's

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the thing they are not. They just need their YouTube moment.

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They need to have a YouTube moment. They need to

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be able to cut about twenty seconds or so thirty

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seconds maybe a minute out of the the you know,

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the questioning, and then send it out to get the

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donations flowing. Same thing goes for the people that interrupted

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the opening statement by Pete Hegseth, which so far they

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have not had further interruptions. But these leftists get up

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there and interrupt his opening his opening statement, and then

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they get removed and the chair of the committee, Like

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I would not have run it like that after the

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first one. I would have said, next one, anybody who

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does this, you're you're getting arrested, We're pressing charges. You're

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getting arrested. And if it happens again for the second time,

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I'm clearing the room everybody out, especially if you are

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wearing pink, because you could see these people were they

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were all Code pinkers. They were all there dressed up

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in their silly little clown costumes, all dressed in pink

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with stupid looking glass. Actually that is on trend now.

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Apparently it's the big, big thick frames for the liberal women.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why they don't. I don't know why, but.

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Speaker 2: Like that, so they're all and they got these silly

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hats on and stuff like I can tell who's going

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to disrupt this meeting.

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Speaker 1: It's them. It's the Code bink people.

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Speaker 2: That have been doing it for twenty years. Oh, Elizabeth

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Warren speaking of village idiots.

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Speaker 7: In this role. Now, I've been trying to get answers

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from you for quite some time on this. You haven't

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wanted to meet or to answer any of my questions.

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So we'll just have to do it here.

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Speaker 1: You can dive in.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I want to pick up on some of the

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questions to ask by Senator Shahen and Jill Brandon Verona,

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and I just want to.

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Speaker 1: Make about the women in the military again, the.

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Speaker 7: Facts that I think are undisputed. I'm not going to

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talk about anonymous sources. I'm just going to quote you directly.

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We've got the video, we've got it in print. So

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going back to January twenty thirteen, you told a Fox

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News interviewer that women in the military simply couldn't measure

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up to men in the military, saying that allowing women

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to serve in combat roles would force the military to

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lower the bar. You picked up on that same theme

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in twenty fifteen making remarks on Fox News.

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Speaker 1: You see what they're doing.

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Speaker 2: They're conflating every single mos Because he talks also in

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his book about people he has served, women he has

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served with, who served bravely, courageously, we're awesome teammates, has

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no bad words about them. He's talking about specific things.

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And if you are like, if you meet the standard,

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you can do any job. If you can't meet the standard,

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you should not be doing the job, and the military

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should not be lowering the standards in order to juice

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the stats in order to get more people into those

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jobs with the lower standards.

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Speaker 1: That's what he's been talking about.

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Speaker 2: I think it's pretty clear, and maybe the Democrats do too,

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and that's why they're just conflating all of this stuff together.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk with John real quick. Hello John,

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Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 5: Hello Pete. I wanted to just touch on the uh

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hegsths nomination. It's there. It's a Democrat playbook. The hagsth

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could have literally won a war by himself and they

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would still say that he would be worse than Hitler.

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And they're all going to come out and say every

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bad thing that that's can be said. The Republicans are

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going to be like, guys, we have to be nice, No,

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we don't. This is war on a different scale than

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what Pete's done. But this is war. We need to

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politically destroy anyone who is against making the military as

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lethal and as efficient as possible.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's been the message that heg Seth has been hammering.

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Republicans have not have not taken the position that you

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said you're worried that they're taking. They've all been even

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Jonie Ernst what they had a cordial exchange and she

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was one of the Republicans that they were saying she

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may not support him. So yeah, I mean, it looks

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like the Republicans are going They're not going to be

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abandoning hag Seth at least so far is what I

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could tell.

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Speaker 5: So they're not going to abandon him, but they're gonna

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but they're not going to come out and fight with

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the same uh fervor that the Democrats have. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: Well, it's always easier to attack. I mean, when Republicans

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were in the minority, it's always easier to savage and

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to go after somebody, you know, easier to go on

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the offense than it is to defend, you know, somebody,

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because you got to just listen to the allegations and

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people hear them and they're like, oh my gosh, that's

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so bad. So it's easier to just throw the smears

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out there. And lord knows, there's been enough of them

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that have been reported against Pete hegseth. He's not done

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himself a lot of favors with some of the stories

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and some of the history. Now, not all of the

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stuff that has been reported has been true, so that's

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and he keeps saying that as well. Those are anonymous

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false allegations. He keeps saying it, and Democrats just don't

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hear him say it. So John, I appreciate the call.

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resumption of playing, will it skip ahead to the live

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portion or will it play the part that I paused?

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Which in this case is Elizabeth Warren, us Senator from Massachusetts,

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famous fake Indian, and she's asking hag Seth here about

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his call for generals to not go to work for

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defense industry companies for ten years after retirement.

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Speaker 7: Sir Hagstaff. You have written after they retire, general should

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be banned from working for the defense industry for ten years.

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You and I agree on the corrosive effects of the

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revolving door between the Pentagon and defense contractors. It's something

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I would have liked to talk with you about if

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you'd come and been willing to visit with me. But

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the question I have for you on this is will

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you put your money where your mouth is and agree

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that when you leave this job you will not work

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for the defense industry for ten years?

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Speaker 5: Senator.

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Speaker 3: It's not even a question I've thought about because it's

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not right now. It's not one my motivation for this job.

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Speaker 7: I understand yes, time is short. I just need a

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yes or no.

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Speaker 3: I would consult with the President about what the policy.

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Speaker 7: Other words, you're quite sure that every general who serves

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should not go directly into the defense industry for ten years.

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You're not willing to make that same pledge.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a general, Senator, You'll.

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Speaker 7: Be the one. Let us just be clear in charge

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of the generals. So you're saying sauce for the goose,

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but certainly not sauce for the candor.

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Speaker 3: I would want to see what the policy that you.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Senator Warren, Senator Tuberville, thank you.

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Speaker 8: Miss chairman, and thanks for your hard work and your

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committee's hard work. Miss chairman. This is uh, this has

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going well.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 8: I'd like to submit this letter uh topic conduct at

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vets for freedom for Hexseth.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to sbmit that for the record. Please withou objection,

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Speaker 8: Seth, I mean, mister Heseth, thanks thanks for being here

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today with your FA.

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Speaker 2: So anybody else note the irony of who is asking

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the question about cashing in.

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Speaker 1: On a title. Tim Young, Who's a comedian. You can

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find him. I think he does a podcast. Uh, but

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I don't see anyway Tim Young.

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Speaker 2: You could He does a podcast and you can find

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him on Twitter or x AT.

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Speaker 1: Tim runs his mouth. That's his name, Tim runs his mouth.

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So Tim Young.

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Speaker 2: He points out that Elizabeth Warren questions whether or not

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Pete Hegseth would cash in on the Secretary of Defense job.

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Keep in mind she lied about being a Native American

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to cash in, and just the other day she tweeted

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an act Blue link pretending it was a charity for

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victims of the Los Angeles wildfires. This is what makes

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this whole thing so farcical. They are obviously coordinating. Democrats

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are using their female senators on the committee to ask

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about the women in combat roles. Just you know, they

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keep asking the same questions over and over and over

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again that Staffords obviously wrote and coordinated. And then they've

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got Tim Kaine and the male senators asking the questions

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about the allegations of sexual abuse. Somebody, I guess it

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was a It was Mazie Herono who asked about the NDA.

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Has he ever she started doing this I think during

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the Britt Kavanaugh hearings. So she says she always asks

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everybody who comes before for before the committee for a

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confirmation hearing, she always asks them, have you ever been

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accused of you know, being told no base rape, okay,

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sexual assault? Has anybody ever accused you of this? Or

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have you ever done this sort of thing? And haig

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Seth says no, And then she asked, have you ever

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had anybody sign an NDA to cover it up? And

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once again, like those types of agreements, it's like, surely

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she knows, even somebody as shallow as Herono knows that

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people in powerful positions that have money or at least

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it's perceived that they have money, get accused of things

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that they did not do, and then they get basically extorted.

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That's what heg Seth's lawyer said. Heg Seth's lawyer says

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that this was basically extortion. That he was on Fox News.

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He has money because he's on Fox and so you

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accuse him of something, and then you sue him, or

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you say I'm going to go public or something. They

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then write a check, you sign the non disclosure agreement,

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and then they're not allowed to talk about it. They

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can't make any more accusations against you in public, they

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can't continue to lob these allegations. That's what you're paying for.

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And the people who make false allegations know this. That's

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why they do it. It's for the money when it's

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not true. Right, When people make these types of false

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allegations against powerful, prominent, rich people, it is for the money,

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that's the point. And it's just cheaper and easier to

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pay them a check and have them go away. I

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don't like it. I don't know if I mean, well,

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I'm not rich, but then again people may think I

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am because I'm on the radio, which tells me they

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know nothing. About radio's but the amount of time and

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turmoil it would take and the expense. Right, So you

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can either spend one hundred two hundred thousand dollars in

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legal bills, it take five years to litigate, get dragged

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through the courts, drag through the media, or you write

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them a check for twenty thousand dollars. I don't know

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what the going rate for hush money is. Maybe we

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could ask Stormy Daniels's. But you pay the money and

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they go away, and then you move on with your life.

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You keep going, and you're not happy about it. I

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don't like the fact that I had to write the check,

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but it's a cheaper alternative in every category except the one,

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which is where you have to pay for something you

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didn't do. But when you talk to people who are

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in that level of wealth, in that income bracket, they

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they know that this is essentially a cost of not

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doing business. It's a cost of living, just like a

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security detail when you become famous.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the things that you have to pay for.

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And again, I don't like it, but that's what he's saying.

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Speaker 2: And for some reason Democrats don't understand it, which is

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weird because I know there's a whole boatload of members

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Speaker 1: That had to pay out these NDAs too. HEGs like.

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Speaker 2: If I'm up there, I'd be like, well, wy don't

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you guys release the list of all the NDAs. Y'all

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have had people sign for you in exchange for the payoffs, right,

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haven't members of Congress been extorted in this same way

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or all guilty too? Why don't you release the list

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of all of them?

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Speaker 7: All?

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Speaker 2: Right? If you're listening to this show, you know I

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me say get your news from multiple sources. Why well,

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more transparent. All right back to the Senate hearing. This

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is now Tammy Duckworth. So, first off, as I mentioned earlier,

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Democratic senators at the hearing have coordinated their questioning, and

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now she's going to use that coordination to attack Pete.

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Speaker 1: Hegseth. The Secretary of Defense nominae you it's a chairman.

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Speaker 5: Center Duckworth, You're recognized.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, miss a chairman. And also Secatary Mattis had

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to have this waiver as well, with Zach said, this

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hearing is about whether you are qualified to be Secretary

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of Defense, and one of the qualifications to answer my

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colleagues's question is to actually win the votes of every

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member of this committee and to be confirmed by the

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United States Senate.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's not true. That's a lie.

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Speaker 2: A nominee does not need to win the support of

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every member of this committee. That's not true. They need

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to be confirmed by the Senate. But that also does

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not require a unanimous vote, just needs a majority.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 6: And you need to convince us that you're worthy of

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that vote, because the people of the state of Illinois

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voted for me to be their senator so that I

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could cast that vote when it comes to picking who

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Speaker 2: Also not true, right, he doesn't need to convince you.

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He doesn't need to convince all the Democrats, who, by

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the way, have a long history of not supporting the

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nominees of Republican presidents during these hearings. Republicans, on the

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other hand, do But here we go.

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Speaker 6: This hearing now seems to be a hearing about whether

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or not women are qualified to serve in combat and

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not about whether or not you are qualified to be

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Secretive of Defense.

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Speaker 2: The reason why that the hearing has become that is

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because of your fellow Democrats who keep asking about this topic,

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and now she's using their focus. The Democrats focus on

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this issue as if he has made this the focus

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of the hearing. I suspect he would rather it not

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be the focus.

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Speaker 6: And let me just say that the American people need

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a sec deaf who's ready to lead on day one.

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Speaker 2: You are not that person.

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Speaker 6: Our adversary is watched closely during times of transition, and

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any sense that the Department of this keeps us safe,

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it's being strayed by someone who's wholly unprepared for the

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job puts America at risk, and I am not willing

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to do that. With that in mind, mister heck Seth,

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I want you to try to explain to the American

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people this committee who have to vote for you, and

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to our troops are deployed around the world, why you

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are qualified to lead the Department of Defense. We already

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know that you've only led are the largest of two

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hundred person organization. We already know that you so badly

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mangled a budget that after you left they had to

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bring in a forensic accountant to figure out what went wrong,

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and that the largest budget you ever managed was about

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eighteen billion dollars. You know that is about fifty one thousand,

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five hundred and sixty times fewer lower than the Department

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of Defense budget of eight hundred and twenty five billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't even know if she knows what she

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just said there.

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Speaker 6: Sixteen million dollars is fifty one thousand, five and sixty

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eight times smaller than the defense budget. Please describe to me,

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mister hex Saith, you talk about DoD passing an audit.

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Please describe to me a time or an organization when

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you that you led underwent an audit. Because you say

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you're going to hire smarter people than you to run

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this audit, I'm not asking you to be an accountant.

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I want you to be able to tell me what

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kind of guidance will be given to those employees, what

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will happened if whether or not you passed that audit.

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Have you led an audit of any organization? Yes or no?

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I don't want a long answer. Yes or no? Have

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you led an audit of any oranization of which you

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were in charge?

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Speaker 5: Senator.

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Speaker 3: In both of the organizations I ran, we were always

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completely fiscally response yes, way, yes or no.

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Speaker 6: You can't answer this question, yes or no? Did you

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lead an audit? Do you not know this answer?

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Speaker 3: Senator? Yes, my leadership or an organization.

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Speaker 2: That's a Senator just screaming at a candidate a nominee.

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All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you

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