WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.320 --> 00:00:07.040 It's Nightside with Dan Ray. I'm WBZY, Boston's news radio. 2 00:00:07.360 --> 00:00:08.039 Thank you very much. 3 00:00:08.119 --> 00:00:11.359 Nice folks can ask in the vibes of Nightside for 4 00:00:11.400 --> 00:00:12.720 the next four hours. 5 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:13.480 Gee. 6 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:17.800 Now, all of a sudden, May after sixty whatever, sixty 7 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:21.160 one years after the Kennedy assassination, the FBI has found 8 00:00:21.239 --> 00:00:27.120 three thousand more records. Isn't that amazing? Just amazing? Well, 9 00:00:27.199 --> 00:00:30.760 thank goodness that Donald Trump has ordered that everything come out, 10 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:31.960 and it had better come out. 11 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:33.520 My name's Dan Ray. 12 00:00:33.560 --> 00:00:36.479 That has been sort of one of the most important 13 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:40.479 events in the lifetime of all of us who consider 14 00:00:40.520 --> 00:00:45.079 themselves baby boomers. And we will probably follow up on 15 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:47.880 that tomorrow a little bit, but maybe we will finally 16 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:50.520 get an answer as to what really happened in Dallas, 17 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:53.960 Texas on November twenty second, nineteen sixty three. My name 18 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:56.600 is Dan Ray. I'm the host of Nightside. Rob Brooks, 19 00:00:56.920 --> 00:00:59.920 the producer of this fine program, is back in broad 20 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:03.479 Cast Central, all set to take your phone calls, but 21 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:06.239 not until after nine o'clock tonight. We will talk about 22 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:11.599 that decision by the SJC today to deny Karen Reid's 23 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:17.439 appeal that her case should have been handled differently. We'll 24 00:01:17.439 --> 00:01:21.159 talk with Attorney Phil Tracy. I think the State Supreme 25 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:24.640 Court missed the forest for the trees today. They had 26 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:29.439 an opportunity to instruct judges, to me more diligent when 27 00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:33.680 dealing with a situation like the Read trial. That judge, 28 00:01:33.680 --> 00:01:37.319 in my opinion, should have simply asked those jurors who 29 00:01:37.319 --> 00:01:39.519 came back saying that they were deadlocked, to you deadlocked 30 00:01:39.560 --> 00:01:43.560 on all of the counts of the indictment or just on. 31 00:01:43.400 --> 00:01:44.239 Some of the counts. 32 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:46.120 But anyway, we'll deal with that at ten, and then 33 00:01:46.200 --> 00:01:49.319 later on I'm going to talk about the USAID controversy 34 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:52.680 and all of that. A very interesting news conference that 35 00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:56.120 Elon Musk held today in the Oval Office with Donald 36 00:01:56.159 --> 00:01:59.319 Trump sitting at the resolute desk. First, though, we are 37 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:03.200 going to talk about four subjects that I think are 38 00:02:03.280 --> 00:02:07.480 particularly interesting. Going to start off with the high incidents 39 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:11.560 of scams that seemed to be happening on social media 40 00:02:11.719 --> 00:02:17.560 with us is Framush to Rabbi, a financial expert. Fernush, 41 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:18.639 Welcome to Nightside. 42 00:02:18.639 --> 00:02:19.080 How are you. 43 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:21.960 I'm doing great? How are you? 44 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:26.800 I'm hanging in there. I'm delighted that the Kennedy assassination 45 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:31.159 files three thousand more files have been found. Good work 46 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:31.960 for the FBI. 47 00:02:32.199 --> 00:02:35.840 I'll be listening tomorrow for the updates right in the 48 00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:36.360 morning for. 49 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:42.479 Well we will say, look, all of us are getting inundated, 50 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:48.039 inundated in our phone conversations, and our telephones ring and 51 00:02:48.199 --> 00:02:51.520 are how can we stop this? I thought that the 52 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:53.560 federal government could shut down some. 53 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:55.199 Of these scam artists. 54 00:02:56.319 --> 00:02:59.000 Yeah, I'm serious, this is this is ridiculous. I had 55 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:02.280 one guy called today. I couldn't even understand what language 56 00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:04.800 a guy was speaking, and I basically said, hey, you've 57 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:08.840 reached I'm a police detective. You better get rid of 58 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:12.120 my phone call, out of your rolodex, or I'm going 59 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:14.360 to issue an arrest ward for you, buddy. And I 60 00:03:14.439 --> 00:03:17.319 mean you have threatened the guy. I will where he was, 61 00:03:18.240 --> 00:03:20.840 whether he was in America. He didn't sound like he 62 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:23.280 was in America, and the connection certainly didn't sound like 63 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:26.360 he was an American. This is insane what we're having 64 00:03:26.400 --> 00:03:28.639 to deal with these days. What can we do? 65 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:33.439 You're right, it has really gotten out of control. I 66 00:03:33.479 --> 00:03:35.879 think the thing I want everyone to know is that 67 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:39.400 this is preventable. I mean, what you did was brave. 68 00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:41.879 I don't know if I would have engaged. I think 69 00:03:41.919 --> 00:03:45.800 I would have just ignored. But it's really important that 70 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:47.080 we understand. 71 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:48.199 All the time. I engage all the time. 72 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:50.479 Oh my god, you got to record it. You got 73 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:52.280 to record it next time and play it for us. 74 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:57.400 But I think I think education is really important. Right, 75 00:03:57.479 --> 00:04:02.000 So we know that the scams are are everywhere, particularly 76 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:05.560 on social media. So there was a recent study out 77 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:08.240 of JP Morgan Chase. They found that nearly fifty percent 78 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:12.439 of scams reported to Chase by their customers originate on 79 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:17.920 social media. And the scammers are often asking for payments 80 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:23.519 through zell or wire transfers, and so that's the first 81 00:04:23.519 --> 00:04:25.680 thing to just be aware of. So when you kind 82 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:30.279 of come across these sorts of ads and listings that 83 00:04:30.519 --> 00:04:32.560 your you know, your radar goes up. A lot of 84 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:36.160 the scammed items that we're seeing on social media marketplaces 85 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:41.800 are rental properties, home services, pets, and event tickets like 86 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:44.759 concert tickets. And how it usually happens. The way it 87 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:49.160 plays out is that you'll see these listings that are 88 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:51.759 just too good to be true. The price is really low. 89 00:04:52.439 --> 00:04:54.040 You call up a friend, You're like, I can't believe 90 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:58.319 I saw these tickets for you know this sports game, 91 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:01.720 it was like the cheapest eventor scene. That's a red flag. 92 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:06.720 And what's even more is that they will insist that 93 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:09.879 you pay with a payment method that does not come 94 00:05:09.920 --> 00:05:13.000 with purchase protection. So the problem there is is if 95 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:16.120 you actually make the transaction, you give them money, then 96 00:05:16.120 --> 00:05:18.519 you never get the product, or you get it but 97 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:22.360 it's subpar. Now you're out. You know, however much money 98 00:05:22.399 --> 00:05:23.920 you spent on that on that item. 99 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:29.160 Well, we have here in Massachusetts lately a lot of 100 00:05:29.199 --> 00:05:37.240 people are getting scam requests that they somehow have either 101 00:05:37.399 --> 00:05:41.199 parking tickets in arrears or they haven't paid their tolls 102 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:46.800 on the Massachusetts Turnpike. And it's I can't of imagine 103 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:49.600 anybody falling for this, but I do realize that there 104 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:52.839 are people who who want to never want to worry 105 00:05:52.879 --> 00:05:57.040 about something, and it plays on people's fears in their anxieties. 106 00:05:57.439 --> 00:05:59.560 And that's why I turned it around with the guy today. 107 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:01.920 I wanted to play on his fear and hearings, his 108 00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:03.480 anxiety of getting. 109 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:10.720 Getted, getting found out. Right, Well, you're absolutely right, yeah, 110 00:06:10.920 --> 00:06:15.279 just scare the hell out of them. Yeah, I mean 111 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:20.279 I think you're right though about you know, these scammers 112 00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:24.560 banking on us kind of acting in a way that 113 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:29.319 is irrational or does sort of like what they try 114 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:31.399 to do essentially, So let's go through the red flags 115 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:34.360 they try to really, you know, besides the fact that 116 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:36.199 you know, it seems like too good to be true 117 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:38.240 and that's a red flag, like the price is so low, 118 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:40.800 the other thing they'll try to do is to push 119 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:45.120 you to purchase quickly. They create this fall sense of urgency, 120 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:49.560 and as humans, you know, we all want a good 121 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:52.360 deal and we get scared when we find out that like, 122 00:06:52.399 --> 00:06:54.759 oh my gosh, this amazing deal is going to go away, 123 00:06:55.079 --> 00:06:57.720 it's going to expire. I have to act now, and 124 00:06:57.759 --> 00:06:59.879 so we rush to make a purchase, and in the 125 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:03.879 those seconds, we don't have the kind of clarity that 126 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:06.639 is really important in those moments to double check what 127 00:07:06.639 --> 00:07:09.680 you're doing, to verify what you're doing. So, if you 128 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:14.199 ever feel like you're engaging with a seller online and 129 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:18.120 they're really pressuring you to pay quickly and specifically to 130 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:20.920 pay in a certain way like through a digital payment, 131 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:25.800 that there is no purchase protection, that is an enormous 132 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:28.680 red flag. And I think if you just know this, 133 00:07:28.879 --> 00:07:31.040 if you just know what's going on, I think it's 134 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:35.120 going to make it virtually impossible to get scanned these days. 135 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:39.199 I think the way that at this point what people 136 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:43.240 should do, particularly folks who are of a certain vintage, 137 00:07:43.319 --> 00:07:46.759 because I think that young people are pretty hip to this. 138 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:50.560 I think they understand it. But people who are baby 139 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:54.120 boomers like me, you get a phone call from anyone, 140 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:57.560 just hang up on them. Don't even engage. You've hit 141 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:00.759 an email if you're on the computer. I just want simple, 142 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:04.800 is that you know if it's if it's some agency 143 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:06.240 that's coming after you. 144 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:06.879 Like the I R S. 145 00:08:06.959 --> 00:08:08.959 Believe me, they'll find you. Don't worry about it if 146 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:12.560 they're looking for you. I mean this, this is insane 147 00:08:12.639 --> 00:08:17.279 and I just don't understand why our government can't basically 148 00:08:17.319 --> 00:08:18.480 go after these guys. 149 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:18.759 Now. 150 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:20.360 I know a lot of them are offshore. I know 151 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:22.879 a lot of them coming from Eastern Europe and Russia 152 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:26.319 in places like that. But please, folks, just listen to 153 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:29.759 what my guess for nouche uh To Robbie has just 154 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:31.800 told you. How good folks get in touch with you 155 00:08:32.440 --> 00:08:34.679 if if they want to. I don't know, do you 156 00:08:34.799 --> 00:08:37.879 counsel with people? Do you have you written an article 157 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:40.440 that you'd like to share with us or direct people too. 158 00:08:40.519 --> 00:08:41.240 Do you have a book? 159 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:44.799 Oh, thank you, I have books. I have a podcast 160 00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:48.039 called so Money. But before we go, I just want 161 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:50.320 to I just want to drive home. Something else that's 162 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:53.000 really important when it comes to how to pay online. 163 00:08:53.480 --> 00:08:56.039 If we have time, you got about a minute and 164 00:08:56.159 --> 00:09:00.559 that we got about Hey, so really quick, really quick. 165 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:03.000 If you're going to make a purchase on a social 166 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:06.960 media marketplace or online, make sure that you are using 167 00:09:06.960 --> 00:09:11.440 a payment method that has purchased protection, like a credit card. 168 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:14.000 You know, these scammers will push you to use zell 169 00:09:14.399 --> 00:09:17.360 or a wire transfer, and the issue there is that 170 00:09:17.720 --> 00:09:21.919 again there's no purchase protection. Zell is best for transacting 171 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:25.080 between friends and family and loved ones. So just be 172 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:27.720 really careful because this is the part where people really 173 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:30.720 get in trouble. You know. It's you're not in trouble, 174 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:32.480 like you're just looking at the listing. It's when you 175 00:09:32.519 --> 00:09:34.759 go to pay and then you pay with the wrong 176 00:09:34.840 --> 00:09:39.000 method that's really going to backfire. But as far as resources, 177 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:41.519 you know, I have a podcast it's called so Money. 178 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:44.519 I have many books that I have out there, and 179 00:09:44.600 --> 00:09:48.360 also there's free online websites Chase just launched a new 180 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:52.559 free online resource that's got actionable tips for all the 181 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:55.240 things that we've just talked about spotting and avoiding scams 182 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:57.879 on social media. You can go to Chase dot com 183 00:09:57.919 --> 00:09:59.440 slash don't get reeled in. 184 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:03.240 Sounds great. I really do appreciate it for now. You're 185 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:05.799 a good sport. I joke around a little bit on 186 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:08.159 stuff like this, but I'm deadly serious and I hate 187 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:10.720 these people. I really, I don't hate anybody, but I 188 00:10:10.759 --> 00:10:15.600 do hate these people because they are really lower than life, 189 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:17.600 lowest form of human life, that are going to try 190 00:10:17.600 --> 00:10:20.799 to scam older people or scam anyone out of their 191 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:21.600 hard earned money. 192 00:10:21.639 --> 00:10:23.279 Thank you so much for your time. I'll love to 193 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:23.799 have you back. 194 00:10:23.879 --> 00:10:26.639 Okay, You're welcome anytime. 195 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:27.879 Thanks Paris. 196 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:31.279 When we get back, we'll talk about another problem that 197 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:33.159 I think many of us are dealing with in the 198 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:35.919 last few weeks, and that is the fear of flying. Frankly, 199 00:10:36.919 --> 00:10:39.720 the fear surrounding air travel. In light of everything that's 200 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:41.480 gone on in the last few weeks. We saw up 201 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:44.399 in New Hampshire today a small plane that crashed in 202 00:10:44.480 --> 00:10:49.200 the Packyardisan people, It's it's terrifying, and we'll talk with 203 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:54.360 a licensed cycle licensed cycle therapist who also has to 204 00:10:54.360 --> 00:10:55.440 be a commercial. 205 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:57.279 Pilot and also a. 206 00:10:59.399 --> 00:11:02.000 Very smart woman who I think is going to be 207 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:05.320 able to maybe calm some of our anxiety. My name's 208 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:07.879 Dan Ray. This is Nightside. You're listening to the what 209 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:10.200 we call the Nightside News Update. Later on we're going 210 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:12.159 to talk about did you know the shape of the 211 00:11:12.159 --> 00:11:15.879 Earth's intercourse is now changing? And we'll also talk about infertility, 212 00:11:17.240 --> 00:11:19.480 a very serious topic for a lot of young couples. 213 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:21.759 Back on Nightside right after this. 214 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:25.799 Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World 215 00:11:25.960 --> 00:11:29.039 Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio. 216 00:11:29.720 --> 00:11:31.960 Joining us now is doctor MIKAELA Johnson. She is a 217 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:36.919 licensed psychotherapist, commercial pilot and also a relationship strategist known 218 00:11:36.960 --> 00:11:40.240 for blending psychology with aviation and of course there have 219 00:11:40.279 --> 00:11:44.759 been some pretty horrific incidents in the last two or 220 00:11:44.759 --> 00:11:49.039 three weeks dealing with aviation and airline crashes. So welcome 221 00:11:49.559 --> 00:11:53.159 doctor MICHAELA. Johnson to Nightside. Tell us a little bit 222 00:11:53.200 --> 00:11:56.399 about yourself. I read sort of the extras of the bio, 223 00:11:56.559 --> 00:12:01.519 but an interesting combination of activities from being a commercial pilot, 224 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:05.240 relationship strategist as well as a licensed psychotherapist. 225 00:12:06.519 --> 00:12:07.480 Thanks for having me on. 226 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:07.840 Yeah. 227 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:10.559 You know, some people might say that I just can't 228 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:14.000 sit still. So it seems that I've always got something 229 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:16.960 that I'm striving for, something that I'm aiming for. And 230 00:12:17.440 --> 00:12:20.120 I've you know, been in small airplanes since I was 231 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:22.840 a young kid, and so it was kind of a 232 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:26.480 natural segue, and helping people was something that I always 233 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:28.759 wanted to do. So I don't know how I really 234 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:31.240 fell into books except to say that you know, once 235 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:33.240 you start doing something and then you find out how 236 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.200 much you love it, you just keep getting more of 237 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:38.080 it until you realize, wow, I've kind of I've done 238 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:41.360 quite a bit here in terms of what I've achieved, 239 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:45.000 but and you're always wanting it to be enough. But 240 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:47.759 it seems like there's always just something beyond the horizon 241 00:12:47.799 --> 00:12:49.639 that you can strive to next. In these sorts of 242 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:53.440 hobbies and life skills, well, I will. 243 00:12:53.240 --> 00:12:56.000 As a as a I used to fly a lot. 244 00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:58.840 I worked in television for thirty one years here in 245 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:01.320 Boston with the CBS affiliate, and we used to travel 246 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:04.080 quite a bit, and you get really used to it, 247 00:13:04.159 --> 00:13:06.960 and oftentimes we used in those days get bumped up 248 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:11.919 to business or first class because we were a television crew. Now, 249 00:13:12.639 --> 00:13:16.679 traveling by air, at least commercially, is akin to what 250 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:19.279 used to be traveled by bus. 251 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:21.440 Thirty years ago. 252 00:13:21.759 --> 00:13:25.039 People would dress up and you'd have some room and 253 00:13:25.639 --> 00:13:28.240 they would actually I can remember flying to New York, 254 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:31.559 flying to Washington short hops, you'd get a full breakfast 255 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:33.720 at eight o'clock in the morning. Now you get a 256 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:37.960 bag of peanuts if that. So, it's not as much fun. 257 00:13:38.559 --> 00:13:42.039 It's crowded. The airports are crowded. There are less people 258 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:44.399 there to help you, so that that kind of puts 259 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:46.480 me in sort of an apprehensive mood. 260 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:49.639 And then when you do have you know, we went a. 261 00:13:49.519 --> 00:13:53.039 Long time without a commercial crash here in America. Got 262 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:55.360 to go back, I think fifteen years to two thousand 263 00:13:55.360 --> 00:14:01.120 and nine that jet that crashed in Buffalo. But this 264 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:05.000 is fresh in people's minds. You know, how do you, 265 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:08.919 I mean, how do you get on a plane these 266 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:11.440 days and say to yourself, well, yeah, I know it's 267 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:13.639 the safest form of travel, but is. 268 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:16.519 It really Well, you know, you brought up so many 269 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:19.039 good points there, which is that the entire system has 270 00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:21.240 kind of lost some of the allure that it used 271 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:24.080 to have in the vintage days, right that pan Am days, 272 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:27.759 where you it was an experience to be going somewhere 273 00:14:27.799 --> 00:14:30.879 and it wasn't so much about the destination as it 274 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:33.320 was about the journey. And I feel like life in 275 00:14:33.399 --> 00:14:36.120 general has kind of taken that twist, right. It's less 276 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:39.519 about our experience and more about where we're going and 277 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:42.399 how fast we're getting there. And I think that in 278 00:14:42.440 --> 00:14:46.320 this kind of instant gratification world, we've cut a lot 279 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:49.919 of corners, we've made things, we've tightened things up in 280 00:14:49.960 --> 00:14:52.279 such a way where they've lost some of that joy. 281 00:14:53.080 --> 00:14:56.279 People used to really look forward to these sorts of 282 00:14:56.279 --> 00:14:57.919 trips and now it's like, oh, I got to fly, 283 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:00.159 you know, halfway across the country in two days, them 284 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:04.120 halfway back home kind of a drum exact. And I 285 00:15:04.159 --> 00:15:06.120 do think that's a big part of what's contributing to 286 00:15:06.559 --> 00:15:10.279 more ambivalence. It did really turn from being something exclusive 287 00:15:10.360 --> 00:15:13.120 to being more like taking no offense to Greyhound but 288 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:16.559 the bus, you know, and people do often refer to 289 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:18.519 it as the Tube for just that. But it doesn't 290 00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:22.039 stop there, right, every part of the process, from the 291 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:24.600 post nine to eleven stuff, where now you've got a 292 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:28.240 strip search to get through TSA. Not saying anything there 293 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:31.639 in terms of whatever needs to happen to ensure everybody's safety, 294 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:35.320 but just saying it definitely doesn't add to the experience 295 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:37.519 and make it more positive. Nobody wants to take their 296 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:40.600 shoes off, Nobody wants to have the stuff out of 297 00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:44.080 their bag. So I think there's already a mindset issue 298 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:46.440 that we're up against. And as a psychotherapist, what I'm 299 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:50.799 always looking at is what's underneath the emotions, right where 300 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:53.080 are they coming from? And so when you look at 301 00:15:53.159 --> 00:15:56.639 kind of all of those other pieces combined, it's natural 302 00:15:56.720 --> 00:15:59.759 then when a major event happens to go see, that's 303 00:15:59.799 --> 00:16:02.360 why I don't want to travel anywhere right there. You know, 304 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:04.919 it's kind of like this straw broke the camel's back. 305 00:16:05.799 --> 00:16:07.840 Now that being said, you brought up a very good point, 306 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:10.759 which is that it's still an incredibly safe way to travel. 307 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:13.879 It's efficient, It gets us, you know, very far at 308 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:16.279 four hundred five hundred miles an hour, so much faster 309 00:16:16.360 --> 00:16:18.000 than we could ever travel in a car, across the 310 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:20.440 train that we could never access in a car, So 311 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:21.799 there is a lot of benefit to it. 312 00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:26.120 Yeah, there's no question about that. But I just know 313 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:28.440 I don't think we will ever get back to where 314 00:16:28.480 --> 00:16:32.000 we were. The seats are getting all of that, it's 315 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:36.080 less comfortable. I'm you know, I'm not six five and 316 00:16:36.519 --> 00:16:39.279 way two fifty. I'm a very normal sized guy, and 317 00:16:39.399 --> 00:16:41.639 I'm in a seat there, and it's like, you know what, 318 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:43.799 this is not comfortable. 319 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:46.320 I mean, and you're not. 320 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:49.720 Wrong, sadly. And gas isn't getting cheaper, and I think 321 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:53.679 that's all probably playing into it, and insurance isn't getting cheaper, 322 00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:55.799 so I think that they're trying to cram in an 323 00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:58.799 extra couple of seats on all these roads to you know, 324 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:01.480 to get that extra pinch. But what it ends up 325 00:17:01.519 --> 00:17:03.720 doing is making a lot of discomfort for the passengers. 326 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:04.079 For sure. 327 00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:10.160 It's eventually, as it is in every industry. On Doctor Johnson, 328 00:17:10.519 --> 00:17:13.319 it's the being counters who are our enemy. 329 00:17:13.799 --> 00:17:14.920 It is the being. 330 00:17:14.680 --> 00:17:19.440 Counters, and they they are the ones that have taken 331 00:17:19.480 --> 00:17:24.359 the joy and the fun out of every. 332 00:17:23.160 --> 00:17:25.720 Cold You're not wrong, You're not wrong, And I missed 333 00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:28.599 the glamour right, Like, let's let's have the bean counters 334 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:31.599 sit aside and see what happens when we invite a 335 00:17:31.720 --> 00:17:34.920 much more pleasant and welcoming experience to the to the 336 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:37.319 entire event. And I do think that there are some 337 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:40.200 companies out there that you know, all kind of doing 338 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:43.119 at least some of these smaller airlines that are trying 339 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:45.240 to offer more of that kind of down home feel. 340 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:47.599 I think there is a market for it, but it 341 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:51.319 just quite hasn't hit in terms of what we see 342 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:53.799 with the big airliners in terms of moving people. 343 00:17:54.440 --> 00:17:54.640 Yeah. 344 00:17:54.839 --> 00:17:56.480 I don't want to sound like some old guy here, 345 00:17:56.480 --> 00:18:00.279 but I remember, you know, traveling for television as a 346 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:04.160 television reporter with my crew to stories in Europe in 347 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:08.640 the in the eighties and nineties, and oftentimes we'd get 348 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:11.160 bumped up to first class and. 349 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:13.480 When we're going ony days, right. 350 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:17.119 And here's the best part about it, oftentimes the pilot 351 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:19.920 would invite me to come up and sit in the 352 00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:24.279 jump seat as we're going across the Atlantic at you know, 353 00:18:24.319 --> 00:18:26.599 two thirty four o'clock and two thirty four o'clock in 354 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:27.039 the morning. 355 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:27.839 Uh. 356 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:31.640 And that will never happen now. That will live open now. 357 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:35.640 So it's so said, folks, doctor j justsin. How can 358 00:18:35.680 --> 00:18:37.599 folks get in touch with you? It looks to me 359 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:40.400 like you've got a great website, and you are a 360 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:43.039 font of good information give us the way Folks can 361 00:18:43.240 --> 00:18:45.400 kind of can keep up with you, follow you and 362 00:18:46.440 --> 00:18:47.960 get some good guidance from you. 363 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:51.960 Yeah, so skytalk doc on Instagram. I'm currently learning how 364 00:18:51.960 --> 00:18:54.559 to fly the T six text and Warbird and also 365 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:58.680 bu find happy dot com b E. You find happy 366 00:18:58.759 --> 00:19:01.319 dot com for all the psychology things as well. 367 00:19:02.319 --> 00:19:05.200 Well, that's great, and it's MC doctor MICHAELA. 368 00:19:05.279 --> 00:19:07.400 Johnson. I'm sure they can find you through the internet 369 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:11.200 as well, And thanks very much. I don't need to 370 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:14.000 be in any way, shape or form a cynic, but 371 00:19:14.680 --> 00:19:17.039 I've watched this industry. 372 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:18.400 You know. 373 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:21.960 Part of it is, you know, every time I go 374 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:24.839 through TSA, I say that to myself, thank you very much, 375 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:27.160 you know, terrorist for what you have done to us. 376 00:19:27.240 --> 00:19:31.920 You know, they killed innocent Americans and other innocent non 377 00:19:31.960 --> 00:19:35.559 Americans on nine to eleven. But they have left a 378 00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:40.960 legacy that has changed airline travel forever, and. 379 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:42.720 You know, and it's created a lot of fear for 380 00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:45.640 people to use what is a pretty incredible if we 381 00:19:45.680 --> 00:19:49.240 go to write brothers, you know, original idea, a pretty 382 00:19:49.279 --> 00:19:51.880 incredible way to travel. And I'm fortunate enough to get 383 00:19:51.920 --> 00:19:54.839 to fly in small aircraft and have that experience which 384 00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:57.799 really feels kind of like you're one with the you know, 385 00:19:57.880 --> 00:20:00.000 one with God, one with nature, one with the universe. 386 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:02.920 And I think that for people that are trepidacious to fly, 387 00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:05.000 the one thing that I offer as advice is that 388 00:20:05.480 --> 00:20:09.000 actually speaking scientifically speaking, is still an incredibly safe way 389 00:20:09.039 --> 00:20:12.039 to fly or to travel. Rather and your pilots want 390 00:20:12.039 --> 00:20:16.039 to make it home as well. They're highly trained, they 391 00:20:16.079 --> 00:20:18.759 know what they're doing. And there are things, as in 392 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:22.559 everyday life, that are completely unavoidable, true accidents that happen, 393 00:20:23.160 --> 00:20:25.640 But for the most part, there is a tremendous amount 394 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:29.519 of safety built into this form of moving across the planet, 395 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:32.160 and it still does offer a lot of benefit in 396 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:35.039 being able to see places that are exotic and far away. 397 00:20:35.720 --> 00:20:38.880 Absolutely, doctor Johnson, appreciate your time. Love to have you back. 398 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:40.359 Thank you so much for joining us soon. 399 00:20:40.440 --> 00:20:41.559 Thanks so much for having me. 400 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:42.759 Very welcome. 401 00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:45.559