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<v Speaker 1>From Workhouse Connect and aj Benza.

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<v Speaker 2>Fame. He'd like to be walked on a leash and

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<v Speaker 2>play really dirty kinky sex games.

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<v Speaker 1>Is uh the guy put the cock in the peacock network. Okay, bitch, Hey.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody aj Benzi here with fame is a bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not a Patreon show.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a free show for all your listeners out there.

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<v Speaker 2>We enjoy the show, and some of you only hear

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<v Speaker 2>the first five minutes if you're there for free, which

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<v Speaker 2>is strange to me. I would think you'd want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear the whole show and pay the seven buffs. But

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<v Speaker 2>either way, I'm gonna give you a free show once

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<v Speaker 2>a week. Drum up some more business, some more interest.

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<v Speaker 2>And while I have all of you, let me just

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<v Speaker 2>also say that the Unfiltered Show, the Patreon Show, has

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<v Speaker 2>been going great. Five days a week. We've got Politics

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<v Speaker 2>is a bitch. Every Sunday, We've got every Thing is

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<v Speaker 2>a bitch. With me and Mike I Gavino that airs

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<v Speaker 2>once a week. And Relationships is a bit between me,

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<v Speaker 2>Mike and Arena Wood our relationships Guru. She is married

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<v Speaker 2>to our best friend Kenny Wood. So I'm out there.

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<v Speaker 2>You can hear me everywhere. But I'm gonna give you

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<v Speaker 2>a free show every week. Hopefully that'll motivate you.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys to want to hear my silly voice every day.

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<v Speaker 2>My get sick of it in time, but not a

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<v Speaker 2>bad thing to have handy when you want to hear it,

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<v Speaker 2>when you want to hear good gossip, but just old

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<v Speaker 2>stories from my life, tremendous memories, brushes with fame, mafia story,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you name it, I've got them all. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been out here living the crazy life for well, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sixty three now, so let's say my life's been crazy

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<v Speaker 2>for fifty years. First thirteen were kind of normal, I suppose.

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<v Speaker 2>Before I go any further, a lot of folks on

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<v Speaker 2>the Patreon show have been lucky enough to listen to

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<v Speaker 2>stuff you really don't want to walk into or look

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<v Speaker 2>whenever there's a sale on these hats, you get my

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<v Speaker 2>twenty percent off that I give you on top of

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<v Speaker 2>whatever that deal that Eric Chavitz has giving you on

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<v Speaker 1>So if he has.

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<v Speaker 2>This has been going like gangbusters because Eric Dravitz hats

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<v Speaker 2>Milania Trump Bobble the other day. Actually, she's won it

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<v Speaker 2>several times. This is the kind of thing that you

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<v Speaker 2>guys have bought over twenty five thousand dollars worth of hats.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing, Keep it up.

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<v Speaker 2>One C one t Okay, let's talk about Hollywood before

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<v Speaker 2>I jump into a story about a famous choreographer that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure many of you are familiar with.

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<v Speaker 1>The first thing I want to bring up.

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<v Speaker 2>Before I get into that, I'll just give you a

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<v Speaker 2>taste of the kind of stuff I do on my

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<v Speaker 2>Patreon show, and that is the fact that I've been

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<v Speaker 2>at this gossip game for over thirty years, and not

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<v Speaker 2>only do I know plenty of people and just know things.

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<v Speaker 1>In general.

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<v Speaker 2>I have this crazy, spidy sense about what's going on,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've been proven right hundreds of times in the

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<v Speaker 2>last eight years that I've been on on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>But real quick, the Keith Urban Nicole Kidman split, everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of trying to figure.

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<v Speaker 1>Out what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>You've heard the rumors about well twenty years, and they

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<v Speaker 2>started to just kind of separate. It happens to people.

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<v Speaker 2>There's another roomor out there that at this silly that.

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<v Speaker 1>Keith was wearing a lot of Nicole's wigs.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not privy to knowing how many wigs the cole

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<v Speaker 2>Kivin has or how many she wears, but there's a

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<v Speaker 2>silly rumor out there that he was.

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<v Speaker 1>Wearing her wigs.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never seen him in a wig. Maybe they do

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<v Speaker 2>that at night when they get hot and heavy. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't even imagine it because every picture I see of

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<v Speaker 2>them together on the red carpet, she's wearing flats and

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<v Speaker 2>he's wearing Frankenstein's shoes with like three or four inch

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<v Speaker 2>platforms on the bottom of dress shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's comical.

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<v Speaker 2>Not alone could drop a couple apart when you're five

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<v Speaker 2>to eleven five ten and he's five six. That's trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're all the same height lying down, but

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<v Speaker 2>still movie stars and recording artists walk together on red carpets.

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<v Speaker 1>Looks a little silly.

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<v Speaker 2>You really see his feet or her as in a picture.

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<v Speaker 2>She also bends her knees to make leaf she short anyhow, Look,

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned the other day on the show that the

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<v Speaker 2>Keith more or less has been dabbling back in the

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<v Speaker 2>cocaine the cocaine funny had before Nicole and during Nicole

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<v Speaker 2>at the beginning of their romance, she put her foot

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<v Speaker 2>down and said, you gotta go to rehab if you

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<v Speaker 2>want this to be serious.

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<v Speaker 1>And he spent three months in rehab before he supposedly

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<v Speaker 1>kicked the habit.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard that that was part of the drama, that

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<v Speaker 2>he's been dabbling too much and she's not happy with it,

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<v Speaker 2>and she realized she couldn't change him. Hard to change

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<v Speaker 2>somebody at that age when they've been doing something for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time and without you. What I'm hearing that

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<v Speaker 2>makes more sense is this situation that possibly he had

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<v Speaker 2>a fling or a fair or strong like, a strong

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<v Speaker 2>liking strong liking, that's the word liking. Affection for his

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<v Speaker 2>guitar player named Maggie Ball. Maggie, I think he's twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five years old. Cute girl, plays a mean guitar, always

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<v Speaker 2>next to Keith on stage, singing into each other's mouths,

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<v Speaker 2>as singers and guitar players often do. That can create

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<v Speaker 2>a kind of a sexual vibe. Of course, So the

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<v Speaker 2>rumor is that they had a flame. And here's the

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<v Speaker 2>thing that bothers me most. And here's why I think

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<v Speaker 2>this is true. This is where my spidy sense comes

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<v Speaker 2>into play. When this thing broke, somebody got a hold

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<v Speaker 2>of the rumor that the guitar player or somebody had

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<v Speaker 2>his eyes on So they reached out.

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<v Speaker 1>And found her father.

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<v Speaker 2>And her father commented, which you shouldn't ever comment on

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<v Speaker 2>your movie star or recording artist children. They're big enough

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<v Speaker 2>to do their own pr don't talk for them. Let

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<v Speaker 2>them talk. And he said something to the effect of, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't of it together. I mean, I mean, was

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<v Speaker 2>there a problem?

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<v Speaker 1>No? Is he having an affair? No? No, no, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not true. Is your daughter having an affair? No she's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, fine, thanks dad, But Maggie Bough has a boyfriend

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<v Speaker 2>and has had a boyfriend for a while. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you're her and the rumor's out there all the newspapers

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<v Speaker 2>and websites and magazine newspapers, I'm dating myself, all the

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<v Speaker 2>places in the world where we get news. If that

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<v Speaker 2>little kidbit is out there.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a Maggie Baugh and you've got a boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>you love, you immediately shut down the rumor. Keith Urban

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<v Speaker 1>should have shut it down as well. None of them

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<v Speaker 1>did it. Why would you do that, especially if you're

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<v Speaker 1>Maggie Baugh. Why keep that rumor hanging over your head?

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<v Speaker 1>Cut it down and say no. If you indeed love.

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<v Speaker 2>Your boyfriend, let him know how much by saying that's

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<v Speaker 2>a ridiculous comment. We're strictly professionals who tore together and

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<v Speaker 2>have toured together for X amount of years.

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's no rumor. I love Nicole and Keith both.

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<v Speaker 2>They're wonderful people. I wish them well. That's how you

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<v Speaker 2>handle it. You don't keep your mouth shut and let

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<v Speaker 2>people decide whether or not you're banging Keith Urban. At

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<v Speaker 2>least she's just as short as he is, so that

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<v Speaker 2>works to her advantage perhaps. Anyhow, that's food for thought

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<v Speaker 2>and those are the kind of things I like to

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<v Speaker 2>get into on the Patreon ship or a virtually unfiltered

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm gonna turn the clock back now to like

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<v Speaker 2>eighty ninety years ago, because last week I went on

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<v Speaker 2>the show and I was asked what my favorite episodes

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<v Speaker 2>of Mysteries and scandals were when I hosted that back

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<v Speaker 2>in the late nineties, and I gave a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>answers to Peg and Twhistle who jumped off the Hollywood

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<v Speaker 2>sign the Black Dahlia.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, there's so many George Reeves.

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned Ramon Navarro, who was beaten at death with

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<v Speaker 2>a wooden dildo bro given to him by Rudolph Valentino Azimov,

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<v Speaker 2>a big old lesbian or a sex club kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a not a sex club, but I hang out in

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<v Speaker 2>Hollywood where all the stars could go and not be

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<v Speaker 2>seen and do the drug day life. Men could be

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<v Speaker 2>with men, women with women. Nobody was the wiser. Anyhow,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought of another show that I liked a lot

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<v Speaker 2>because it really well, it struck home, and I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you why I toward the end of this episode. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna talk about Buzzby Berkeley, the famous boreographer.

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<v Speaker 1>This is back in the thirties and forties. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a household name, you know, W. C. Fields, may West.

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<v Speaker 2>There were there were many many stars that were household

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<v Speaker 2>names back then, and these folks making a fortune back then.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going back ninety eighty years ago. And when

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<v Speaker 2>it came to musicals and all these elaborate dance numbers

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<v Speaker 2>you see in the old movies, Buzzby Berkeley's films were

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much often described as the ultimate expression of what

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<v Speaker 2>Hollywood's glitz and glamour should look like. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>think about all of film history, there really haven't been

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<v Speaker 2>too many choreographers who can lay claim to the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of success that Busby Berkeley gained as well. Just a

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<v Speaker 2>visual stylist and somebody that was completely original and way

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of the curve.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was so ahead of himself. He was behind.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how much he knew, and that's how much he

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<v Speaker 2>poured into the movies and the dance numbers he choreographed. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>outside of Bob Fosse who Life Story I love, foss

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<v Speaker 2>only choreographed five movies, and I can't think of any

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<v Speaker 2>other one who did. I mean, Berkeley had at least

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<v Speaker 2>eleven under his belt before he died, so clearly he

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<v Speaker 2>was head and shoulders above all the others who held

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<v Speaker 2>the job since he did.

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<v Speaker 1>But you gotta remember when he came out. When he

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<v Speaker 1>came out, it was throwing the Great Depression.

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<v Speaker 2>And back then, whenever people bought tickets to one of

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<v Speaker 2>his films, they didn't go to the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>DIDs wanted to see a particular start. They didn't care

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<v Speaker 1>who the story even was, they didn't care.

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<v Speaker 2>Who directed the picture, they didn't care what the story

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<v Speaker 2>was about. They just wanted to see something visually dazzling.

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<v Speaker 1>And they knew as soon as they sat down in

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<v Speaker 1>that theater and the projective began to flicker, they were

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<v Speaker 1>gonna feel differently and leave that theater and in a

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<v Speaker 1>tremendously good mood, which is not always the way it

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<v Speaker 1>works out nowadays. And the sequence, the dance sequence, is

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<v Speaker 1>that he created God, go look at his movies.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, some of the most beautiful sequences ever put

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<v Speaker 2>on film. This is obviously way before CGI, and there

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<v Speaker 2>weren't many special effects that these directors or choreographers could use.

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<v Speaker 2>And to this day you look at his movies and

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna still go, oh my god, how did they

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<v Speaker 2>pull that off? What kind of a step is that?

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<v Speaker 2>How did he shoot this thing? Where's the camera? You're

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<v Speaker 2>Movies runs a marathon of his of his films, sit

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<v Speaker 2>down and watch what he was able to accomplish while

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<v Speaker 2>most of his colleagues in Hollywood was still trying to

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<v Speaker 2>figure shit out. But even though he was, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>recognized as a legitimate genius, of course, he, like many

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen plenty of those. I've had plenty of those,

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<v Speaker 1>fought them off, continue to fight them off. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>Just another example of what we always say, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>fine line between genius and insanity, between brilliance and insanity.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where his life was. And let's go back

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<v Speaker 1>to eighteen ninety five when he was born in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>It was born William Berkeley, but he went by. His

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<v Speaker 2>So man, they had their sight set on this kid

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<v Speaker 2>lived with him most of his adult life, and this.

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<v Speaker 1>Includes four of his six marriages. That might be why some,

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<v Speaker 1>many of them failed wives, don't want their mother in

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<v Speaker 1>law in the same kitchen, in the same house.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want to smell their perfume. We're here, they're talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Coughing is easy. They just want to be with their

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<v Speaker 2>man and a kid or too. But here's where things

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<v Speaker 2>get interesting. As a teenager, he attends a military academy upstate,

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<v Speaker 1>Field serves in a field artillery.

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<v Speaker 2>Unit in World War One, and what he gained from

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<v Speaker 2>that was that he realized he liked and really enjoyed

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<v Speaker 2>the structure and the precision that military life offered. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel the same way. I just didn't have the balls

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<v Speaker 2>to enlist. I was petrified of war. I looking back, man,

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<v Speaker 2>it would have been a great thing to do, to

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<v Speaker 2>serve for your country. It really would have been. But

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<v Speaker 1>So the war ends and he's continuing to serve as

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<v Speaker 2>And before long he was directing battalions of over five

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<v Speaker 2>Armed Services, didn't have a lot of prospects for jobs

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<v Speaker 2>lined up, so he went to Broadway trying his hand

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<v Speaker 2>on stage, which is sounds pretty simple. They went to

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<v Speaker 2>Broadway and tried his I mean it's not that easy,

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<v Speaker 2>but he went tried his luck.

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<v Speaker 1>Couldn't really act, so that didn't get him any work,

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<v Speaker 1>but he got a name from That's all you need

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<v Speaker 2>People need to know your name. Once they know your name,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll figure out what you do best. And what he

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<v Speaker 2>did best was organizing chorus lines. I know, sounds a

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<v Speaker 2>little fay, but he wasn't. He was a heterosexual man,

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<v Speaker 2>many marriages, many affairs. But the thing is he really

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<v Speaker 2>didn't ever aspire a career in choreography. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>after all those years of taking part in those army drills,

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<v Speaker 2>he developed his talent and it was undeniable, but it

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<v Speaker 2>had nothing to do with the military. So because his name,

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<v Speaker 2>because of the name for himself, his name got around

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<v Speaker 2>Hollywood and people start looking turning their heads, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>on the fast track to become a star.

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<v Speaker 1>So the movie mogul Samuel Goldwyn offers him a contract

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<v Speaker 1>to come to Hollywood, and the job he got back

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<v Speaker 1>then was to his insist on several films that had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of elaborate singing and dancing numbers. And this

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<v Speaker 1>was the beginning of the dawn and sound in the

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<v Speaker 1>film industry. And that's when if you go back to

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<v Speaker 1>that era, so many movies we're just musicals.

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<v Speaker 2>I personally can't watch them. Rosalie used to love them

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<v Speaker 2>as a kid. But they might still stand up if

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<v Speaker 2>you enjoy dancing, but I'd rather a drama. But they

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<v Speaker 2>were the big thing back then, for sure. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just me telling you that. If you look back

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<v Speaker 2>in history, people poured into the theaters to see Buzzby

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<v Speaker 2>Berkeley's musicals forty Second Street, Footlight Parade, gold Diggers of

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen thirty three, this title I Love Dames and Fashions

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<v Speaker 2>of nineteen thirty four as well as in Caliente and

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<v Speaker 2>Wonder Bar with the Lauris del Rio, beautiful de Lauris

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<v Speaker 2>del Rio, who Buzzby Berkeley had a fleet with before

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<v Speaker 2>she moved on to the equally talented and just as

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<v Speaker 2>nuts Orson Wells. So now we're at nineteen thirty three

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<v Speaker 2>Warner Brothers making a picture called forty Second Street. As

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<v Speaker 2>I said, and by that time the studio had Jack Warner.

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<v Speaker 2>He had this feeling that I think the public's getting

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<v Speaker 2>sick of the same old bullshit song and dance routine.

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<v Speaker 1>They see this all the time in the movies.

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<v Speaker 2>So the last minute, Warner gets rid of all the

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<v Speaker 2>musical numbers planned.

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<v Speaker 1>For that film.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of hard to even think of that film

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<v Speaker 2>without dance numbers. But Jack Warner, head of the studio,

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<v Speaker 2>they're out.

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<v Speaker 1>So to get.

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<v Speaker 2>Around this last minute bullshit maneuver, the great producer Daryl

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<v Speaker 2>Zenitt hired Berkeley to do the choreography, but he had

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<v Speaker 2>him to shoot all the sequences at night when the

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<v Speaker 2>studio heads were no longer. There can't do that today.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody works in the studio knows what you're do and

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<v Speaker 2>they know way or on the lot, what stage you're

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<v Speaker 2>on et cetera, and all the penny pinches these days,

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<v Speaker 2>and the accountants watching how much money is spent, Not

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<v Speaker 2>to mention social media. It could never happen today, making

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<v Speaker 2>people work at night, and no one figured out.

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<v Speaker 1>And after that was.

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<v Speaker 2>Done, Daryl Zanik tacked all the musical numbers onto the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the film and gave it to Warner as

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<v Speaker 2>a final result.

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<v Speaker 1>And believe it or not, it was great. It actually

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<v Speaker 1>was revolutionary.

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<v Speaker 2>The forty second Treat was one of the original backstage dramas.

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<v Speaker 2>It has three big dance songs, shuffle Off to Buffalo,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Young and Healthy, and of course forty second Street.

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<v Speaker 2>All three of those numbers last twenty minutes. That's unheard

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<v Speaker 2>of nowadays. They tell you this scene can't come more

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<v Speaker 2>than thirty seconds. For us, the viewers is going to

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<v Speaker 2>try to channel unbelievable. See what social media has done

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<v Speaker 2>to us, MTV, all these things did to us.

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<v Speaker 1>This fact, the fact that we need instant gratification. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't just allow things to move on and progress. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I want it now, and I want it all.

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<v Speaker 2>So didn't take long for Berkeley to figure out the

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<v Speaker 2>power of the moving camera, and.

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<v Speaker 1>He would he had these shots.

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<v Speaker 2>He would he would track and follow the motions of

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<v Speaker 2>all the dancers, plenty of dozens and dozens of dancers,

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<v Speaker 2>and he would sometimes fly around and above them on

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<v Speaker 2>wires or on big.

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<v Speaker 1>Purchase that were built. It was unheard of and it

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<v Speaker 1>was stunning. Go look at his movies. In addition to that.

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<v Speaker 2>He contributed one of the most famous lines, you're going

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<v Speaker 2>out there a young stuff, but you gotta come back

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<v Speaker 2>a star. That's forty second Street. And that's some of

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<v Speaker 2>the reasons why it became one of nineteen thirty three's

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<v Speaker 2>biggest money makers, nominated for Best Picture. But more important,

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<v Speaker 2>amid Busby Berkeley, one of the most sort of after

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<v Speaker 2>talents in the biz, also saved Warner Brothers from bankruptcy

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<v Speaker 2>touring the Great Depression. But he wasn't easy on anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy would work dances until their feet bled. He

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<v Speaker 2>had this you know, he came from the military, and

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<v Speaker 2>he had this perfectionism about him. And you know, many

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<v Speaker 2>actresses don't really come to the stage or the set

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<v Speaker 2>thinking that way. But you know there's one particular dancer,

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<v Speaker 2>Eleanor Powell was dancing one of the numbers and she

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<v Speaker 2>kept dancing despite everybody seeing and her complaining about the

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<v Speaker 2>blisters on her feet, and they began to bleed because

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<v Speaker 2>he wouldn't he wouldn't stop until he was absolutely one

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<v Speaker 2>satisfied with every movement. Very demanding dude. You know, he

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<v Speaker 2>ran as a as a drill sergeant of the army.

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<v Speaker 2>He ran these rehearsals like a drill sergeant, and he

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<v Speaker 2>would plan every detail, every formation, and he expected his

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<v Speaker 2>dancers to do what he said, when he said it, and.

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<v Speaker 1>For how long he needed it. He was that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't really focusing on artistry as much as athleticism. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you watch his movies, how the girls were seemingly

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<v Speaker 2>all synchronized in their movements.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you remember, there's.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of shots of what looks like a kaleidoscope,

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<v Speaker 2>which I used to pronounce the kid is kalidioscope, but

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<v Speaker 2>the kaleidoscope, remember those things. And through the kaleidoscope you

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<v Speaker 2>could see all these showgirls and these geometric patterns with

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<v Speaker 2>intense precision, and the visual effects were stunning, and it

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<v Speaker 2>really it began to objectify, and even some said dehumanize

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<v Speaker 2>the dancers and not really treated them as people, but

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<v Speaker 2>as elements of part of the film, kind of deep.

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<v Speaker 1>Grueling work conditions didn't bother them at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Back then in history, course, girls did have it hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Dances were forced to dance for a very long time,

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't get paid a lot of money, and they

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<v Speaker 2>were judged on their appearance period.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no.

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<v Speaker 2>Dei back then. You got the game because you were

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<v Speaker 2>good or very good to look at. And that perfectionism

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<v Speaker 2>made things even.

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<v Speaker 1>Worse for these girls.

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<v Speaker 2>They'd work, like I said, till their feet bled. You

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<v Speaker 2>could see some blood come through their white Kipezia dance shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>And because his films are so popular with the public,

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<v Speaker 2>then of course he's given complete artistic control over the

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<v Speaker 2>musical numbers. You can see the dancer's eyes rolling back

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<v Speaker 2>in their heads when that news was announced. But with

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<v Speaker 2>that power, he began to push both himself and the

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<v Speaker 2>technology he was using well that was available to him

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<v Speaker 2>to all of Hollywood at the same time. And in

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<v Speaker 2>the process of doing that, a new art form was born,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was something that never previously existed on such

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<v Speaker 2>a grand scale. I mean, he had these visions that

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<v Speaker 2>were so elaborate that Warner Brothers was forced to build

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<v Speaker 2>one of the largest sound stages ever constructed.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to film these musical numbers. Sometimes he'd have holes

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<v Speaker 1>cut in the roof of the studio, of the set,

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<v Speaker 1>and he'd be up on the roof filming down, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having people hold his legs. Just insane shit, very hard

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<v Speaker 1>to create these sequences, and he never ever wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>repeat any of his past accomplishments, passed movements, past sequences.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything had to be original every time out, always trying

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<v Speaker 1>to top himself. And between that and the constant demands

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<v Speaker 1>from the studio brass, combine with his life being what

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<v Speaker 1>it was, he was living in the middle of a

423
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<v Speaker 1>pressure cooker. And what do you think happens when these

424
00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:27.640
<v Speaker 1>actors or dancers, directors.

425
00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Anybody in Hollywood. What happens when you're living in a

426
00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:35.160
<v Speaker 2>pressure cooker. Well, of course he began to drink like

427
00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:38.680
<v Speaker 2>a sailor on leave, and he would work till three

428
00:24:39.039 --> 00:24:39.759
<v Speaker 2>four in the morning.

429
00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Now, if you've seen any of his movies, you know

430
00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:46.920
<v Speaker 1>that some of his musical numbers featured water, a lot

431
00:24:46.920 --> 00:24:48.839
<v Speaker 1>of girls diving in the pool at the same time.

432
00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:52.240
<v Speaker 1>You've seen those synchronized swimming at the same time as well,

433
00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:54.640
<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you why he used water.

434
00:24:55.880 --> 00:24:59.279
<v Speaker 2>Water made him relax because when he was stressed out,

435
00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:01.839
<v Speaker 2>when life was too hard, he would lay in the

436
00:25:01.920 --> 00:25:06.359
<v Speaker 2>bathtub for hours and drink endless martinis.

437
00:25:08.440 --> 00:25:09.759
<v Speaker 1>I never drank in the bathtub.

438
00:25:10.119 --> 00:25:11.799
<v Speaker 2>I might have had a sip of wine, but I

439
00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:14.359
<v Speaker 2>knew a guy who was an alcoholic who worked with

440
00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:16.720
<v Speaker 2>me years ago, who used to drink wine in the

441
00:25:16.759 --> 00:25:20.319
<v Speaker 2>shower out of the bottle. Whenever you think you have

442
00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:23.440
<v Speaker 2>a problem, just think of going that far. Hey y yi,

443
00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:27.599
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, sit water in the bathtub, calm himself down,

444
00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:31.559
<v Speaker 2>pound martinis. I'm sure there was second Al's back then

445
00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:34.400
<v Speaker 2>that he was popping too. And not everybody, I mean

446
00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:36.079
<v Speaker 2>not anybody was straight.

447
00:25:36.119 --> 00:25:38.319
<v Speaker 1>In my book, back then, the studio heads gave him

448
00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:41.799
<v Speaker 1>out to people lose weight, stay awake, go to sleep,

449
00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:42.799
<v Speaker 1>get up again.

450
00:25:43.160 --> 00:25:48.400
<v Speaker 2>More energy it pills were everywhere. But that's the way

451
00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:50.119
<v Speaker 2>he said. He could only come up with new ideas

452
00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:53.799
<v Speaker 2>laying in the water in the bathtub, drinking martinis. And

453
00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:58.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, he had this habit of drunk dialing his

454
00:25:58.680 --> 00:26:00.680
<v Speaker 2>dancers had four or five o'clock.

455
00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:00.839
<v Speaker 1>In the morning.

456
00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:03.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, just you know, because he's trying to come

457
00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:06.480
<v Speaker 2>up on a new routine and wanted some feedback, wanted

458
00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:08.359
<v Speaker 2>some thoughts a madman.

459
00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:13.720
<v Speaker 1>Imagine how much more he even up to, or how

460
00:26:13.799 --> 00:26:15.880
<v Speaker 1>much more he'd be up their asses if he could.

461
00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Send texts back. Then, Oh my god, but here comes

462
00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:22.519
<v Speaker 2>the bad side of life. Nineteen thirty five, while he's

463
00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:25.119
<v Speaker 2>at the height of his fame. He's at a party

464
00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:30.880
<v Speaker 2>celebrating the completion of his latest film. He's driving home

465
00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:34.279
<v Speaker 2>along the Pacific Coast Highway, which we call the PCH,

466
00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:39.519
<v Speaker 2>which is where all those magnificent mansions burned down several

467
00:26:39.559 --> 00:26:42.200
<v Speaker 2>months back during the fires of Malibu and the Palisades.

468
00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:45.200
<v Speaker 1>And he's probably trunk.

469
00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:48.880
<v Speaker 2>I say probably or possibly, because we really never got

470
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:49.559
<v Speaker 2>the answer to that.

471
00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:50.440
<v Speaker 1>But listen.

472
00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:53.160
<v Speaker 2>If he's pounding Martini's in the bathtub, he's drinking at

473
00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:56.960
<v Speaker 2>a wrap party the period he loses control of the

474
00:26:56.960 --> 00:26:59.559
<v Speaker 2>car and goes on the wrong side of the road,

475
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:03.839
<v Speaker 2>side swipes a car, plows them to another car. Three

476
00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:09.200
<v Speaker 2>people are killed. He gets arrested, charged with second degree murder.

477
00:27:09.799 --> 00:27:12.319
<v Speaker 2>If you've listened to the show before and ever watch

478
00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:16.119
<v Speaker 2>Mysteries and scandals, it's very hard to lock these stars up.

479
00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:21.559
<v Speaker 2>So the trial begins, and of course Berkeley was brought

480
00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:25.160
<v Speaker 2>in on a stretcher into court. He had some head

481
00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:28.599
<v Speaker 2>and leg injuries, unable to stand, he said, But we

482
00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:34.119
<v Speaker 2>all know what that's about. And Warner Brothers, the studio,

483
00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:37.119
<v Speaker 2>had their own set of problems because the public still

484
00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:40.920
<v Speaker 2>had this big appetite for Buzzby Berkeley's pictures, and he

485
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:44.039
<v Speaker 2>was scheduled to work on three more movies back to

486
00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:47.000
<v Speaker 2>back to back, and they waited for him to be

487
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:51.160
<v Speaker 2>able to walk, then they right away shifted the production

488
00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:55.319
<v Speaker 2>schedule to nights. This meant that he now had to

489
00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:58.559
<v Speaker 2>sit in a courtroom all day, then go to work

490
00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:01.599
<v Speaker 2>every night, usually till three or four o'clock in the morning,

491
00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:04.119
<v Speaker 2>for months and months on end. And for his part,

492
00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:08.519
<v Speaker 2>he agreed to the schedule because he said he felt

493
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:09.480
<v Speaker 2>he needed.

494
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:12.160
<v Speaker 1>To work to get over the terrible guilt he felt

495
00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:14.079
<v Speaker 1>at the time he was eating him up.

496
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:18.000
<v Speaker 2>And Warner Brothers was quick to get a lot of

497
00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:21.279
<v Speaker 2>their employees at the party who were there to testify

498
00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:26.039
<v Speaker 2>at the trial on his behalf. There was a lot

499
00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:29.799
<v Speaker 2>of evidence to the contrary, but Warner Brothers marched up

500
00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:34.519
<v Speaker 2>several quote unquote stars in their roster who went on

501
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:37.480
<v Speaker 2>record to say that he wasn't drunk at the party,

502
00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:39.240
<v Speaker 2>and he wasn't drunk when he got into the car,

503
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:46.000
<v Speaker 2>but that would have been completely out of character for

504
00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:49.200
<v Speaker 2>a guy like I said, since sinnadatham and pounds martinis

505
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:55.000
<v Speaker 2>and his past behavior was documented, he was drunk, and

506
00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:58.039
<v Speaker 2>probably as a result of his testimony, the.

507
00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:02.319
<v Speaker 1>Trial ends in a hung jury. Trial number two, Same

508
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:04.559
<v Speaker 1>thing happens third trial.

509
00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Right now, you're thinking guilty, right, No, Finally he gets acquitted.

510
00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:12.599
<v Speaker 2>But of course that his life begins to spin out

511
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:16.519
<v Speaker 2>of control. You'd think having such a close call with

512
00:29:16.680 --> 00:29:22.119
<v Speaker 2>death and then prison would change you and say, you

513
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:25.079
<v Speaker 2>know what, I'm gonna slowed down. Life's been great, but

514
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:28.920
<v Speaker 2>it got wild. I gotta slow down and just use

515
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:34.799
<v Speaker 2>my head. Stop being samaniac. But no, life spins out

516
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:38.480
<v Speaker 2>of control. He marries and remarries over and over again.

517
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Then he becomes very erratic on the set. At least

518
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:44.720
<v Speaker 2>one actress back in the day claimed he almost got

519
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:48.640
<v Speaker 2>her killed while filming a very ambitious sequence as part

520
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:52.839
<v Speaker 2>of a film. He's working on the movie Girl Crazy

521
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:57.519
<v Speaker 2>with Judy Garland, and she was just as nuts as him,

522
00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:00.960
<v Speaker 2>and she got him fired because she said he was

523
00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:05.240
<v Speaker 2>making unnecessarily. Well, she said he was making him to

524
00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:11.599
<v Speaker 2>do unnecessary dance scenes over and over and over again,

525
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:14.319
<v Speaker 2>and you know, she couldn't help. And it's funny. Reminds

526
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:18.720
<v Speaker 2>me of when I was hosting Mysteries and Scandals. I

527
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:23.279
<v Speaker 2>had a producer named Danny. Danny was a small guy,

528
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:28.119
<v Speaker 2>gay and bipolar, and I never heard that turn back

529
00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:30.039
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety six or seven.

530
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>It's like, what is that.

531
00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh, the like he's got like two people in his head,

532
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:36.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, schizophrenic. No, it's bipolar.

533
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:38.079
<v Speaker 1>It's not that bad, but he has to take a

534
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:41.079
<v Speaker 1>pill and then he Mellie evens out and it's fine. Well,

535
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:43.559
<v Speaker 1>that night we were doing the Judy Garland shoot, and of

536
00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:46.519
<v Speaker 1>course a gay man wants to do the Judy Garland

537
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:49.559
<v Speaker 1>shoot because all gay men love Judy, and Danny gets

538
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:54.000
<v Speaker 1>very demanding, probably as demanding as Busby Berkeley. I'm dying.

539
00:30:54.119 --> 00:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>It's one two o'clock in the morning.

540
00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:59.799
<v Speaker 2>We're on the Walk of Fame, Hollywood Boulevard, right next

541
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:02.680
<v Speaker 2>to Judy's prince in the concrete.

542
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:04.240
<v Speaker 1>He wants me to kneel down and said, I'm not

543
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:05.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna kneel down.

544
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Every show ends with me standing by the by the Star,

545
00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:13.920
<v Speaker 2>or ends with me at their palm print or footprints.

546
00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Most shows ended that way. I never kneeled down. I

547
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:19.960
<v Speaker 2>got a twenty five hundred dollars suit on. I'm not

548
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:24.599
<v Speaker 2>gonna put my my armandi on on concrete. No, I'll

549
00:31:24.599 --> 00:31:27.559
<v Speaker 2>stand up. We battled about that, but me and Danny

550
00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:29.960
<v Speaker 2>went Danny used to Danny did the Maylon Monroe shoot.

551
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:32.839
<v Speaker 2>Of course he did because every gay man loves Marilyn Moreau.

552
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:36.039
<v Speaker 2>And back then he wanted me. We were in the

553
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:38.119
<v Speaker 2>mausoleum where Marilynd is buried, and he wanted me to

554
00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:40.119
<v Speaker 2>put a rose in that little receptacle they have on

555
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:40.839
<v Speaker 2>the side of the mars.

556
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I said, I'm not doing that. It looks silly, it

557
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:44.559
<v Speaker 1>looks dumb. He wants.

558
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:47.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm not, But you know what, I was young

559
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:49.599
<v Speaker 2>yet at the job. I didn't want to ruffle too

560
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:52.799
<v Speaker 2>many feathers, so I did it. But I fucking regretted

561
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:56.920
<v Speaker 2>to this day. It looks so hacky, it looks stupid,

562
00:31:58.000 --> 00:31:59.759
<v Speaker 2>and I got mad at Danny was like, take your

563
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:02.359
<v Speaker 2>fuck pill. He actually went home, took his pill, came back.

564
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:05.039
<v Speaker 2>We worked at four o'clock in the morning on that.

565
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Shot crazy stories.

566
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Anyhow, Buzzy Berkeley is now spiraling downward. But he had

567
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:18.079
<v Speaker 2>two constants in his life, the bottle, like I said,

568
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:21.480
<v Speaker 2>and the affections of his mother. What do you think

569
00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:27.000
<v Speaker 2>happens around this time? His mother dies cancer after a

570
00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:29.799
<v Speaker 2>very long battle. Dead gone. That was the final strug

571
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:34.960
<v Speaker 2>mental breakdown that he had. Was kept at bay for

572
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:40.759
<v Speaker 2>a few years, but then it manifested itself with a vengeance.

573
00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:46.240
<v Speaker 2>Not long after his mother's died. As mother's death, he

574
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:50.640
<v Speaker 2>tried to kill himself by slitting his throat and wrists.

575
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:54.000
<v Speaker 2>One of his servants found him lying on the bathroom Florida,

576
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:59.279
<v Speaker 2>pool of his own blood. The servant binds up all

577
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:03.079
<v Speaker 2>his wounds, calls an ambulance and definitely saved his life.

578
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:08.200
<v Speaker 2>And when Buzzby Berkeley finally recovered he after surgery, he

579
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:11.039
<v Speaker 2>told a friend and I quote, I'm a hasband and

580
00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:14.039
<v Speaker 2>I know it. I can't seem to get myself straightened out,

581
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:18.000
<v Speaker 2>rainy En. At the time, I'm broke. When my mother died,

582
00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:20.880
<v Speaker 2>everything seemed to go with her.

583
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:24.640
<v Speaker 1>But as much as you think, okay, that's a wrap,

584
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:30.039
<v Speaker 1>col it quits. No, he still keeps on working, still

585
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>keeps recovers from his wounds, but then gets admitted to

586
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:40.119
<v Speaker 1>a psychiatric war in Los Angeles for six weeks. Ugh.

587
00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:43.319
<v Speaker 1>And then he tells that same friend what that was like.

588
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:44.559
<v Speaker 1>It was a nightmare.

589
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:48.160
<v Speaker 2>See, I was thrown in with these dirty, disheveled, bedraggled creatures.

590
00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:50.960
<v Speaker 2>They were so short a space. My cot was placed

591
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:54.480
<v Speaker 2>at the corridor where these horrible characters passed me day

592
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:57.079
<v Speaker 2>and night. I knew that if I wasn't already mad,

593
00:33:57.160 --> 00:34:00.839
<v Speaker 2>I soon would be. On top of that, Berkeley went

594
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:02.680
<v Speaker 2>from one hundred and seventy pounds to one hundred and

595
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:07.359
<v Speaker 2>seven pounds, and he had six hundred and fifty dollars

596
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:10.480
<v Speaker 2>to his name. Is it curtains yet? Is the show over?

597
00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:14.440
<v Speaker 1>No? He makes it come back again, gets work again,

598
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:18.039
<v Speaker 1>makes several more movies that audiences loved in the sixties.

599
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:20.960
<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you how he was able to do

600
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:23.280
<v Speaker 1>that through hard work determination.

601
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:31.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, somewhat mostly through drugs, because it's no coincidence that

602
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:36.079
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden he's interested in work again. Also,

603
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:40.079
<v Speaker 2>that came the same time that certain illegal substances were

604
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:45.719
<v Speaker 2>becoming more widely used throughout Hollywood and society. So drugs,

605
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:52.519
<v Speaker 2>thoughted to become widely available, and back then college students

606
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:56.440
<v Speaker 2>in the sixties, it was not uncommon for college students

607
00:34:56.440 --> 00:34:59.400
<v Speaker 2>to go see his movies and watch those musical numbers

608
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:05.280
<v Speaker 2>all fucked up because they'd watched these visual accompaniments and

609
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:08.599
<v Speaker 2>it lended them, said, lended itself to them getting even higher.

610
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:14.599
<v Speaker 2>Isn't that wild that Buzzby Berkeley got there high bigger

611
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:16.360
<v Speaker 2>because of his dance sequences.

612
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:23.519
<v Speaker 1>Unreal net drugs can be good until they're bad.

613
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:26.639
<v Speaker 2>They're always bad, but they can start on fun and

614
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:31.159
<v Speaker 2>good then it gets awful. So a lot of the

615
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:34.760
<v Speaker 2>young people who went to these or go to these

616
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Busby Berkeley retrospectives really on coning because they're interested in

617
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:39.519
<v Speaker 2>what kind of.

618
00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Camera he used.

619
00:35:41.400 --> 00:35:44.840
<v Speaker 2>They probably couldn't tell you anything about the film's plot

620
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:47.840
<v Speaker 2>because these people were just sitting in the chairs high

621
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:51.920
<v Speaker 2>as a kite. Well, you know, you finally passed away

622
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:56.440
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen seventy six. He was eighty years old. But

623
00:35:56.599 --> 00:35:58.440
<v Speaker 2>get this gag, and I saved this for the end.

624
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:03.719
<v Speaker 2>Throughout his long illustrious career, he had a very dark,

625
00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:08.400
<v Speaker 2>deep secret and you'll never believe it. And this is

626
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:10.920
<v Speaker 2>why his story is one of my favorite episodes in

627
00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Mysteries Scandals. Ready, no one ever taught Busby Berkeley how

628
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:18.920
<v Speaker 2>to dance. The guy had two left feet, couldn't dance

629
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:22.880
<v Speaker 2>to save his life. And what's most insane to me

630
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:27.119
<v Speaker 2>but not so surprising about Hollywood in the thirties. His

631
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:32.679
<v Speaker 2>acquittal in the third trial was due probably to the

632
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<v Speaker 2>powerful legal defense that Warner Brothers and that their studio

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<v Speaker 2>attorneys were able to give him. There was a guy

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<v Speaker 2>named Jerry Geisler, very high priced lawyer that protected studios interest.

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<v Speaker 2>He was in a bunch of our episodes. Everybody called Geisler.

636
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:52.079
<v Speaker 2>The name Geisler was in a lot of our episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>He was known as the He was like the Johnny

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<v Speaker 2>Cochrane or Robert Shapiro of his day.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the accident in which he's driving and kills

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<v Speaker 1>three people driving.

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<v Speaker 2>On the wrong side of the road, and witnesses said

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<v Speaker 2>they smelled alcohol on his breath at the scene, and

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<v Speaker 2>yet his defense focused on.

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<v Speaker 1>The car's mechanical failure.

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<v Speaker 2>You love lawyers, I mean, you love him when you

646
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<v Speaker 2>need him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very simple strategy. They said. There was a blowout.

648
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<v Speaker 1>The car had a blowout front.

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00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Left tire caused Buzby to lose control of his car,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think, for a minute, if I'm not mistaken,

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<v Speaker 2>Warner Brothers was threatening to sue good Year, the tire company.

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<v Speaker 2>This is getting eerie because this morning I had to

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<v Speaker 2>order a front left tire on my car because it

654
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<v Speaker 2>keeps gutting low on air.

655
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<v Speaker 1>There's a slow leak. You know, that's too close for comfort. Anyhow,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't speed anymore, but it's kind of weird.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, they were threatening to sue good your tires

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<v Speaker 2>for having faulty tires on his car. It's amazing how

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<v Speaker 2>many awful scandals Hollywood's most powerful.

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00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:08.800
<v Speaker 1>People, fixers, studio heads, and their powerful defense attorneys were

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<v Speaker 1>able to snuff out because of shit like this. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you as I wrapped the shop up. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing the Buzzby Berkeley episode, we obviously had

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<v Speaker 1>me do several stand ups on Pacific.

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<v Speaker 2>Coast Highway, which wasn't always easy guys, because you know,

666
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<v Speaker 2>cause of flying by and we're off the road. But

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<v Speaker 2>still people would honk if they see the camera crew

668
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<v Speaker 2>set up. They start to rubber neck traffic developed, but

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<v Speaker 2>the honking would ruin a shot. I could be five

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<v Speaker 2>sentences into a stand up.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, oh fuck a helicopter overhead because there's crime stop.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't fail. It was endless, and for a while

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<v Speaker 1>a long time I didn't have a teleprompter.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll have to memorize, you know, two or three paragraphs

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<v Speaker 2>in a row, six seven times a night. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>easy until I said I'll pay for them my own salary.

677
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<v Speaker 2>They finally got one from me, and they paid. But

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<v Speaker 2>when they got that, the show's flew without them.

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<v Speaker 1>It was difficult. Not digging ditches difficult, but pain me

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<v Speaker 1>AS's difficult. But I'm on the same highway he's at.

681
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<v Speaker 1>Back then, I was driving a nineteen seventy six triple

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<v Speaker 1>Tan Cadillact Eldorado convertible. Oh I love this car.

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<v Speaker 2>I post love the famous Bitch podcast of Cess Page

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<v Speaker 2>the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>Love that car.

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<v Speaker 2>And Okay, once we wrap a certain area, the crew

687
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<v Speaker 2>gets together and they go to down I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>to Holloway Boulevard and shoot the ending and the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>That kind of shit. Everything shot out of water.

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<v Speaker 2>So while the crew was putting things back on the truck,

691
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<v Speaker 2>all the cameras, the generators, blah blah, blah. I would

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<v Speaker 2>usually go out with the producer to my teleprompted guy

693
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<v Speaker 2>who was my best friend, Tony Finetti, and we grab

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<v Speaker 2>a drink someplace. He had an hour to kill, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>ninety minutes to kill, and we stopped at some place

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<v Speaker 2>on PCH. I believe it was Gladstone's, the famous place

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<v Speaker 2>on PCH. No, it was Moonshadows where mel Gibson had

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<v Speaker 2>his whole situation where he flipped out and called the

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<v Speaker 2>cop female cop sugar Tis.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Moonshadows. We down probably had two or three

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<v Speaker 1>drinks right there. Now I'm back in the car driving

702
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<v Speaker 1>to Hollywood, easy, easily a fifteen mile drive.

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<v Speaker 2>But the PCH is notorious for car accidents. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's scary cars whipped by. And now I'm feeling not drunk,

705
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<v Speaker 2>but I'm inebriating and I'm driving on the same highway

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<v Speaker 2>in a big car.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not only me. Now I got three other

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<v Speaker 1>people when they're with me, and I'm going, what the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck am I doing? You're already doing so many of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that these people you talk about did in

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<v Speaker 1>their lives, doing the same things they did. They killed them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's wrong with me? Did I have a death wish.

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<v Speaker 2>Or was I just tasting to see if the horseshoe

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<v Speaker 2>that's up my ass was still working well? Wether you

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<v Speaker 2>like it or not, Here we are, twenty five years later,

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<v Speaker 2>and even though I found myself on my back and

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<v Speaker 2>at the same rock bottom of Busby, Berkeley and many

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<v Speaker 2>others found themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>At still standing, still breathing, and Buzzby would be happy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm still dancing. I'm aj Ben.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was your Famous A Bitch for October eleventh,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to you guys next week for another free show.

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<v Speaker 1>In the meantime, go to patreon dot com slash Famous

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<v Speaker 1>a Bitch and get with the daily Unfiltered show. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>love it. Don't forget politics.

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<v Speaker 2>A Bitch is there as well every Sunday, as well

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<v Speaker 2>as everything is a bitch and relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a bitch. Now, I'm gonna be a bitch and leave.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll talk to you guys next week.