Speaker 1: Hey everybody, It's Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Giant BombCast, Episode eight hundred and fifty one,
Speaker 2: powered by MCXT. I am your host, jan A Schola,
Speaker 2: back from sunny San Diego and having survived Comic Con.
Speaker 2: The biggest con man is here, and he's co captain
Speaker 2: of the ship, Jeff grub I.
Speaker 3: Got some flim flams going on. I got a lot
Speaker 3: of odd jobs happening. I am stealing old people's money.
Speaker 3: Oh shit, I was supposed to admit that.
Speaker 2: And he's stealing everyone's hearts. He's here on the podcast
Speaker 2: The BombCast.
Speaker 4: Dan Riker, Hello, how's it going?
Speaker 2: Fantastic? Fantastic? And last, but certainly not least, we've brought
Speaker 2: in the heater, the big dog in the streets and
Speaker 2: the Internet streets, the bad man media from Games Beat.
Speaker 3: Mike Manatti.
Speaker 2: I am Mike Manatti. Okay, yes, GREATI Mike, like you
Speaker 2: would get along swimmingly with the cast of SpongeBob, just
Speaker 2: as yourself.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he would fit.
Speaker 4: Who's the cast? I know there's a Tom Kenny guy
Speaker 4: for mister Show, and who else is on that?
Speaker 3: There's a Clancy Brown is mister crabs.
Speaker 5: Made for a squid Word and Patrick Starr.
Speaker 3: One of the best reasons to have kids is to
Speaker 3: watch SpongeBob if you were too old for it when
Speaker 3: it came out. I was old episode yeah, I was
Speaker 3: not not like that. I'm like for the content, Like
Speaker 3: I was just not watching Nickelodeon anymore.
Speaker 2: I would have watched it.
Speaker 3: I have nothing like and now I am. It rules.
Speaker 3: It's the best. It's so good. I get why there's
Speaker 3: some million memes about it's fantastic.
Speaker 2: And there's still like making more successful.
Speaker 4: Like when I was growing up, like it was ren
Speaker 4: and Stimpy was a super weird cartoon, and I feel
Speaker 4: like if I'd just been ren and Stimpy age when
Speaker 4: SpongeBob was going on, I would have been obsessed with it.
Speaker 3: It is more successful, and I think just about every way.
Speaker 6: I remember the PREMI I remember the premiere because I
Speaker 6: was still watching Nickelodeon. It was funny how there was
Speaker 6: a time where it was just like, here's the next
Speaker 6: new Nicktoon. Here's a commercial about this spot. Real monsters
Speaker 6: who could see it, like works at McDonald's or whatever.
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, I don't know about this one Nickelodeon.
Speaker 2: I felt my mortality. When I saw like all these
Speaker 2: giant signs across the gas lamp district in San Diego
Speaker 2: saying SpongeBob turns twenty five.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, twenty five, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: You might tell me hurts.
Speaker 4: Can you can you timestamp the shows that kind of
Speaker 4: were popping up on Nickelodeon when you decided you were
Speaker 4: too old for me. It was around the time to
Speaker 4: like Cat Dog and Hey Arnold.
Speaker 3: Those are the ones that I was like, No, no,
Speaker 3: I I watched a lot of those. Oh and I'm
Speaker 3: older than.
Speaker 4: You true by lot.
Speaker 6: Yeah, fucking crip, you know wow Dan stopping chy, I
Speaker 6: put away shoutish things.
Speaker 3: The manliest man among us?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 6: What was after SpongeBob Blike, by the time, it was
Speaker 6: stuff like my life as a teenage robot.
Speaker 5: I was definitely out of a chalk whatever was No,
Speaker 5: not that.
Speaker 2: I think when they pivoted more towards some of the
Speaker 2: live action shows, I stopped watching. Uh. I think, I
Speaker 2: don't know if y'all even know what this is. But
Speaker 2: Sam and Kat was like the last thing that I
Speaker 2: ever like was mildly interested in.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my sisters are like seven or eight years younger
Speaker 4: than me, and they when they were watching Nickelodeon, it
Speaker 4: was all the Sweet Life of Zach and Cody and
Speaker 4: Hannah Montana and all these like. It was all live
Speaker 4: actions like sket shoes. We had like Roundhouse and all that.
Speaker 4: But it wasn't all these like sickos, you know. Second
Speaker 4: Round was part of Snick, the original Snick lineup. It
Speaker 4: came on after Clearista explains it at all. It was
Speaker 4: like a music variety show type thing. It was a
Speaker 4: half hour. We were enjoying it.
Speaker 6: I like all that better you did, Dan. First off,
Speaker 6: those are Disney Channel shows. Second off, I thought.
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no no no no.
Speaker 2: The shows your.
Speaker 4: So we got Disney Channel after I was too old for.
Speaker 3: Those were Disney Channel. I didn't know that either totally.
Speaker 6: But also there's some hey dude and your shorts erasure
Speaker 6: going on here.
Speaker 2: Nickelodeon did have, that's right.
Speaker 3: But those weren't.
Speaker 4: Those weren't like traditional sitcom studio audience like you know,
Speaker 4: pull on, just like we were shooting this on a closed.
Speaker 3: Set, you know. Right.
Speaker 6: There's also Welcome Freshman, which wasn't as good, but it
Speaker 6: was okay. It's kind of like the worst version of
Speaker 6: us Saved by the Bell.
Speaker 2: I Carly, Yes, the Nickelodeon one. I love I Carly,
Speaker 2: I love Yes. That is a Nickelodeon one.
Speaker 3: Okay, but that was that was my day. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: love it. Figure it Out.
Speaker 2: The last Nickelodeon game show, I think so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was like ninety six or so. I like
Speaker 4: cleared out a lot.
Speaker 5: I love the game shows especially.
Speaker 6: There's a bit where there's like an extra cable channel
Speaker 6: called GAS Nicolas Themes and Sports that was just reruns
Speaker 6: of the game shows and it was my favorite channel
Speaker 6: for a long time.
Speaker 4: That's what I was watching it three in the morning
Speaker 4: after the bars when my neighbor friend broke in, blocked
Speaker 4: out and tried to kill me with the knife, and
Speaker 4: then I had to call the cops. I was watching GAS.
Speaker 4: I was watching a like Legends of hitting Temple Rear.
Speaker 4: How closer they'd come outside the bathroom door that I'd
Speaker 4: locked myself in and then the cops came.
Speaker 6: It's incredible, Dan, I can honestly say, no, no one's
Speaker 6: ever tried to kill me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crowd locked out and it was real weird
Speaker 4: and oh it succeeded at trying to kill you, Mike.
Speaker 4: The cops showed me the knife. I guess that's the
Speaker 4: thing that just like, oh this is what he was.
Speaker 2: Want to show you further traumatize you.
Speaker 4: Talk to the Lawrence Police Department.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, Okay, I'll get on that after this.
Speaker 3: I think it was SpongeBob for me. It's the show
Speaker 3: that was debuting when I was like just getting out
Speaker 3: of nickelating because that was nineteen ninety nine, right, so yeah,
Speaker 3: it was on my license and stuff. So yeah, and.
Speaker 5: What's Fairly Odd Parents, which just came back again. O.
Speaker 3: Parents was like a few years later, my kids watched
Speaker 3: that another fun show at pretty good. Yeah, but no,
Speaker 3: that was well passed at that point. That's like two
Speaker 3: years after later.
Speaker 2: Nickelodeon was definitely put out putting out some duds, even
Speaker 2: when I was like heavy into like the animation, like
Speaker 2: I don't fondly remember, but Ugly Martians at all.
Speaker 4: I think there's a Game Boy Advanced And the only
Speaker 4: reason I there are some shows I know exist only
Speaker 4: because I've gone through romless of every consoles. Yeah, but
Speaker 4: Ugly Martians like GBA period, like they were even doing
Speaker 4: those like little GBA cartriters that had full episodes episode
Speaker 4: Rugrats and stuff.
Speaker 2: You know what was that rendered out? You think like
Speaker 2: resolution forty? I? Hell yeah, I was video should have
Speaker 2: stayed there.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I had my game Boy Advanced Player for my GameCube
Speaker 6: and I thought I could get the cartriges that has
Speaker 6: Shrek two on it and like watch it on Twitch.
Speaker 2: But it doesn't. It doesn't work. There's other ways.
Speaker 3: What is it? Was there like a blocker on some
Speaker 3: kind of blocker I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Just told so we can make that happen.
Speaker 6: Told it wouldn't work that I can't just watch Shrek
Speaker 6: two hunt Twitch via my gay Boy Advanced Player.
Speaker 3: Is Cartoon Network still going concerning I remember those rumors
Speaker 3: going around that it was shutting down. Did that happen?
Speaker 2: I don't think it was actually shut down.
Speaker 6: I mean I think like all cable TV, there's problem
Speaker 6: even you know my nieces and nephews, right, I think
Speaker 6: I may says before it's funny to me.
Speaker 5: I'm like you kids like Nickelodeon, they're like they.
Speaker 6: Either didn't know what's talking about her say I hate Nickelodeon,
Speaker 6: which is so weird. To me that was not your choice.
Speaker 6: It's like saying you I hate I hate food. Yeah, Nicolo,
Speaker 6: what you talking about one of the essentials.
Speaker 3: After you said that, Mike, I was like, I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna go put on Nickelodeon, souse, I have YouTube TV
Speaker 3: and see what happens. And Emmy was like, what is this?
Speaker 3: And I explained to her, like this is what I
Speaker 3: watched when a kid, and now she's doing the thing
Speaker 3: because she's a daddy's girl, and she's like, oh, Nickelodeon's
Speaker 3: my favorite. So we got one of them, Like we
Speaker 3: saved one kid. I don't know anything about the rest.
Speaker 2: Grub, just turn off YouTube TV and unsubscribe immediately. If
Speaker 2: the gimmicks ever see Invaders in, it's gonna leave them
Speaker 2: down a very dark path.
Speaker 6: To ask about that, because that's another one that was
Speaker 6: popular when I was like kind of watching and I
Speaker 6: only saw a couple of them, and then like it
Speaker 6: had this weird second life through merch and hot topic.
Speaker 4: It seemed like I found that I never saw that,
Speaker 4: but I knew just a couple of people in college
Speaker 4: that were obsessed with it, and they were the most
Speaker 4: obnoxious people I've ever met.
Speaker 2: So I enjoyed the show, and then those people became
Speaker 2: obscenely obsessed with it on Hot Topics and just like, no,
Speaker 2: I can't. I'm going to excommunicate myself from the show.
Speaker 3: Is there like a way to like see how like
Speaker 3: is it like on devon art If there's like more
Speaker 3: art of something like that, that means there's more like
Speaker 3: perverts for it or something is that. I'm like trying
Speaker 3: to find a way to do that without like having
Speaker 3: to go to porn hubbers.
Speaker 2: V and art is Tumblr Tumblr. Okay, yeah, alright, god Mike,
Speaker 2: what was the show like My Life as a teenage Robot?
Speaker 3: Is that? Yes?
Speaker 5: Another one?
Speaker 6: That's another one that was kind of popular right before
Speaker 6: I stopped watching. Yeah, with that blue Robot girl, and
Speaker 6: I don't know, it seemed somewhat Powerpuff Girls adjacent to me,
Speaker 6: but with just one of them, I didn't really know
Speaker 6: what it was about.
Speaker 2: Another show that was like past my time that like
Speaker 2: I think maybe Nicky and Sean maybe, well, Shawn's an
Speaker 2: old man. Never mind, Nikki, uh maybe fascinated with was
Speaker 2: on Cartoon Network Drama Island.
Speaker 5: I want to say it was, oh, total drama.
Speaker 2: Island, Total drama Island. There we go? Yes, not thing?
Speaker 6: G right, I see Sean and Chat saying Danny Phantom
Speaker 6: that was like the more actiony show from the Fairly
Speaker 6: Odd Parents person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally was not in look at this guy in Chat.
Speaker 2: Total Drama Island was my shit?
Speaker 3: Do you think Total Drama was Canadian? But a lot
Speaker 3: of those live action shows were Canadian originally?
Speaker 4: Yet oh now, what would you do? Fucking uh not?
Speaker 4: Are you afraid of the dark? What's another sentence show
Speaker 4: from long alanis Morse that was on it? You can't
Speaker 4: do that on television?
Speaker 3: Yeah, first show.
Speaker 4: Do you think if they rebooted doubledare I could be
Speaker 4: a contender for a host.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent?
Speaker 3: Yes, I think you would be really good at that too.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you might have to be nicer to children.
Speaker 4: No, I think it's a new age.
Speaker 6: I think we Yeah, children, children is hot with the
Speaker 6: with everybody now, yeah, with kids for not it's all
Speaker 6: trivia about games from nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 2: Listen open to the studio in Fargo and then just
Speaker 2: make it happen.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right?
Speaker 3: Then you said alanis Moore set and like Canadian'm like,
Speaker 3: is lotus more set? Canadian? And here's how I remembered.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, wait, she dated Dave Kouye and no
Speaker 3: American with date David.
Speaker 6: Thinks the Prime Minister back then. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 6: number one isn't like cut it out?
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah that one. Oh you want to know it
Speaker 4: was rumored to be about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. Well I think she confirmed it like
Speaker 3: to one person or something like that, and they Dave
Speaker 3: got yeah, got down with the.
Speaker 2: I am in for this dream Team TV lineup. We're
Speaker 2: gonna uh take us as the podcast and just become
Speaker 2: TV show hosts. Dan, you're gonna host Double Dare I
Speaker 2: want to host Reading Rainbow Mike Grub which shows you
Speaker 2: want to revive the House.
Speaker 3: Hello, I'm Jeff Grubb and this is m TV News.
Speaker 3: I'm the new Kurt Loader.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna sign I'm gonna sign Nati up to
Speaker 4: be Linda Ellerby? Is that she would nick?
Speaker 3: She was a.
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: Is this because I'm smart in your mind? Because I
Speaker 5: remember things? It was very nice?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2: You know she was probably a little bit saucy behind
Speaker 2: the scenes, and yeah, you turn it on news.
Speaker 6: I haven't thought about that. Can I be maybe that's
Speaker 6: also Dan, the host of winder Vielle. No, I'd be
Speaker 6: better as the host of Wienerville.
Speaker 3: I liked Wainerville. That was good.
Speaker 4: Remember it was a guy shoes, his head wasn't a thing,
Speaker 4: and he had baked like beating arms and stuff. To
Speaker 4: look up any picture from her, and then it's gonna
Speaker 4: look crazy.
Speaker 6: I'm sure, Jeff, I think we had this conversation before
Speaker 6: where I talked about Wierville a lot and you're like,
Speaker 6: I don't remember, actually.
Speaker 3: Don't know what it is, and I, yes, I recognized
Speaker 3: this and immediately yep, I just googled it.
Speaker 6: So yeah, And like in the middle they would kill
Speaker 6: time by showing like really old cartoons like Mister Madou
Speaker 6: and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Like you know, I'm a big That must be where
Speaker 3: I saw so much Mister Magoo that I make mister
Speaker 3: McGoo references way more than anyone else.
Speaker 4: I don't know anything about this host or his name
Speaker 4: or anything, but I just is he in jail now?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 4: He might have killed someone. I bet if we Wikipedia,
Speaker 4: it's gonna be I.
Speaker 3: Clicked on his face. Mark Wiener is American comedian puppeteering actor.
Speaker 3: He's best known for performing blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: His shoot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's that's a human name. That's a very
Speaker 3: common human name. Uh No, he looks like he's doing
Speaker 3: just fine. He's even alive. Didn't kill me one or anything.
Speaker 6: After becoming orthodox. He's the voice of there you got
Speaker 6: back for him. He is the voice of the Map
Speaker 6: and Swiper Ador the Explorers, Nickoleon took. He's still doing that.
Speaker 6: He's still Swiper and Dora thing from twenty twenty four.
Speaker 6: Good for Mark Wiener. It's funny how some people don't
Speaker 6: remember Wienerville. I feel like it does not get talked
Speaker 6: as much. It was on the air for four years
Speaker 6: in the prime of Nickelodeon ninety three to ninety seven.
Speaker 3: He ran He runs an organization out of Stamford, Connecticut.
Speaker 3: So you guys probably Waier, Yeah, you probably met Wiener.
Speaker 3: I don't know what this is, y'all. It's Stamford is
Speaker 3: now Wienerville.
Speaker 4: You remember polvich wwe and Wienerville.
Speaker 6: I remember what it must have been the nineteen ninety
Speaker 6: six presidential election. The video that they like the government
Speaker 6: or whatever sent us to watch in school was hosted
Speaker 6: by Boney the Skull Dinosaur puppet from Wienerville telling us
Speaker 6: about the importance of like de mock See or something
Speaker 6: like that, or maybe it was the book stamps, the
Speaker 6: book top things or the whatever.
Speaker 5: But yeah, Bonie was involved in something I had to
Speaker 5: watch in school.
Speaker 3: And Bonie would not allow Bonie in school.
Speaker 4: Yet a song it was Biden would not allow bone.
Speaker 5: Boney, leave me Aloney. And then some people later like,
Speaker 5: I think that's about masturbation.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get.
Speaker 4: Sharon an elephant show or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it was that, not the bar, but it
Speaker 2: was yeah, godkin a Marink. Yeah, I love you. I've
Speaker 2: never felt in the morning and even I love you
Speaker 2: in the evening. And yeah, I'm so old God, I
Speaker 2: need to get like Sean Bailey Lucy and like Nikky
Speaker 2: in this call and we can talk about the za
Speaker 2: boom bafoo. You guys remember here, you bring that energy here.
Speaker 2: No exactly, was fucking like slapped so hard it was
Speaker 2: brand was.
Speaker 3: Just the name of the show.
Speaker 4: Why was an elephant involved? Why am I thinking of
Speaker 4: an elephant?
Speaker 3: They had like an elephant like mascot and then that
Speaker 3: was like their puppet man.
Speaker 6: Maybe I was just a kid, but my but it
Speaker 6: was always a shoot elephant a puppet makes.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe there could be a shoot elephant in like
Speaker 3: the like opening sequence or something like that.
Speaker 6: Listen, I was very young too. You would have been
Speaker 6: in early college, right yeah, right, well yeah young, Like
Speaker 6: I said, solid elephant, but it's what I thought. Elephants
Speaker 6: looks late.
Speaker 3: There's a man in suit. Elephant is what they have. Okay, okay,
Speaker 3: my mind, Godzilla boys.
Speaker 2: I last week was gone from the website. I was
Speaker 2: out on an assignment. I was at San Diego Comic Con.
Speaker 2: And let me tell you that if I don't have
Speaker 2: to go back for work, I don't want to go back.
Speaker 4: You know, I can enjoy myself in most circumstances. Do
Speaker 4: you think I'd find not going to Okay, not at all.
Speaker 4: If I can mix thing, if it's a fun convention.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, it's a fun convention. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of lines and a lot of people. I just don't
Speaker 2: think there's a lot of stuff for you. Specifically because
Speaker 2: Ernie Ernie Hudson, he was good. Not no, uh Orange
Speaker 2: Orange Cassie was there.
Speaker 4: There are a bunch of a w folks there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the most off the cuff celebrity but the
Speaker 3: most like, what's the most surprising one that that you saw,
Speaker 3: like Joey Pantalone's or something honestly like there, I saw
Speaker 3: Joe Montaigner's, Joe.
Speaker 2: What's his name? Anthony Reuter's. I saw Sam Richardson there,
Speaker 2: just like roaming the streets.
Speaker 3: Would be weird to see a comic.
Speaker 2: San Diego, But I guess Sam Richardson's into comics, isn't he?
Speaker 3: Who's that? But he's everywhere. He's the partner of of
Speaker 3: what's his name? Him in Detroiter's right, Yes, he's the
Speaker 3: one that goes what a crop when he has the
Speaker 3: little buffle right right? Yeah, it's in my head all
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 2: I guess nothing weird. I don't think it weird to
Speaker 2: see any out off the cuff celebrity at San Diego
Speaker 2: because I was doing a signing or whatever, and.
Speaker 6: That Like the Youngstown Comic Con, the lady who played
Speaker 6: the tool Time Lady from Home Improvement was there, and
Speaker 6: that was or the first one, No, the first one,
Speaker 6: not Pamela, and they didn't get you just knew her
Speaker 6: as the Tooltime Lady and not from stan Lee's Stripperella.
Speaker 4: Or wait, was pam Anderson the first Tooltime Lady, and
Speaker 4: then there was I don't think it matters, No, probably, yeah,
Speaker 4: the show didn't care.
Speaker 3: And I need to clear up.
Speaker 2: I don't have any beef with the city of San Diego.
Speaker 2: It is just purely the gas Lamp district because that's
Speaker 2: all I ever see when I go there for work.
Speaker 2: And like when we were there for dream Hack, I
Speaker 2: guess that was still kind of post COVID enough that
Speaker 2: like things were kind of quiet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was quiet. That's what I took. That's what
Speaker 3: I remember, and I'm like, this is nice. We just
Speaker 3: walked down. That was not how it was here.
Speaker 2: And I assume a lot of it is inflated numbers
Speaker 2: because people are in town for comic Con, But like
Speaker 2: the people at the bars around the area just not
Speaker 2: my not my crowd crowd. I bought a slice of pizza,
Speaker 2: like at midnight, and like an old man helped me
Speaker 2: with a pizza. But then it feels like a twelve
Speaker 2: year old rang me up for my soda and pizza.
Speaker 2: It was weird. Anyway, it was no labor loss in
Speaker 2: San Diego. It was absolutely great getting to see the
Speaker 2: Greater Fandom crew and like it's always fun hanging out
Speaker 2: with Hayner, Chris Hayner and and m Fife and the
Speaker 2: whole whole Fantom team. They're great, love them, great working
Speaker 2: with them. However, Comic Con, God, folks, I don't know
Speaker 2: how the video game industry seems slightly more organized than
Speaker 2: the entertainment industry.
Speaker 5: Really, yes, comics, Jeff Keeley, are we doing less drugs?
Speaker 2: Is that what?
Speaker 3: It is?
Speaker 6: Not?
Speaker 2: Enough?
Speaker 3: Man? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Amount? An appropriate amount? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Right, we found were like we found the even keel,
Speaker 3: we found the exact the butter zone, and they're.
Speaker 5: Less drugs than the movie industry. That was a challenger, Mike, Manati.
Speaker 3: Do you want me to do more? You're dragging down
Speaker 3: the average Mike.
Speaker 2: Come on, sorry, I'm such a good boy because we're
Speaker 2: all our steroids here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, now I'm off this now I've lost my power.
Speaker 5: Runs are a lot harder.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we would be getting like last minute like
Speaker 2: hey do you want to interview this person right now?
Speaker 3: Like an email then and there I'm like, we would
Speaker 3: someone like coming to your guys booth and being like, hey,
Speaker 3: we're here, let's talk this out.
Speaker 2: No no, no, uh but I mean, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2: It was fun.
Speaker 3: It was cool.
Speaker 2: We did a lot of fun things got to like awkwardly,
Speaker 2: like gasp when I saw people and I saw a
Speaker 2: friend of the website, Janina Gavan car down there, and
Speaker 2: you know it's great. It's good times, good times. You
Speaker 2: know what else is good times? Boys? Video games?
Speaker 3: Y video game, video game game. I popped when I
Speaker 3: saw a sky Rasy commercial on TV the other day.
Speaker 3: My wife was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 4: I've never heard of it. Then I heard Mike mention it,
Speaker 4: and I've seen nine hundred commercials since then.
Speaker 2: Like, let's all get on something very like hyper specific
Speaker 2: to us and just keep talking to it commercials.
Speaker 3: Let's be in the commercials.
Speaker 4: Liquid death.
Speaker 2: Okay, right, all right, hold on, but it's drug. I
Speaker 2: feel like somehow I've missed the liquid Death. Oh no,
Speaker 2: we're not doing this again again. Here's the Sparks Notes version.
Speaker 2: Jan It's a good drink. Everyone likes it. Everyone thinks
Speaker 2: it's a good idea.
Speaker 4: Mike thinks it's lame because he doesn't understand that the
Speaker 4: marketing is sarcastic and ironic, and so he doesn't get
Speaker 4: the joke. And he's a big, you know, fuddy duddy
Speaker 4: about it, and the internet's mad at him because.
Speaker 2: Duddy, no, no, not funny.
Speaker 6: Duddy would take Look, I have to look with deaf
Speaker 6: in the fridge right now. You won't just drink it
Speaker 6: and be done with it. Yeah, well, flavor when you
Speaker 6: expect the answer to be, Mike, I get it. Line,
Speaker 6: isn't that funny because it's like severed limb hilarious?
Speaker 4: You didn't get that?
Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, Mike's the woman doesn't get any get it?
Speaker 2: You have not gotten a single one of these Well.
Speaker 4: Look, I don't get metaphor symbolism whatever.
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about that with one of these games.
Speaker 3: By the way, I was listening fire Escape, and oh boy, damn.
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to remind me. I know what you're
Speaker 4: talking about.
Speaker 3: I got some screenshots here.
Speaker 4: Look, I've never been good at picking up on subtle things.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Should we just do this while Mike, you want
Speaker 3: to talk about, Thank goodness you're here.
Speaker 2: The funniest game I've ever played. Yes, I'm a joint.
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's really funny. I've laughed
Speaker 3: really hard, like five or six times, and then the
Speaker 3: rest is like a sensible chuckle. Yeah, I'm like time,
Speaker 3: I'm playing smiling the whole time is definitely right, and uh,
Speaker 3: there are a lot of sexual and you win. It's
Speaker 3: all double in time. Let me let me poke, Mike
Speaker 3: sausage through this hole in the fence and it's like
Speaker 3: that fence.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, that was totally I remember thinking like, wow,
Speaker 4: they were Okay, Yep, you're right, I just forgot that. Yep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. I think there's a lot of that will happen.
Speaker 3: It's like you just kind of forgot or like, and
Speaker 3: a lot if it's just silly, like my kids are
Speaker 3: playing right alongside me and they're not. Of course they're
Speaker 3: not getting anything.
Speaker 4: So Mike, don't don't open yet. Mike, do you want
Speaker 4: to read any of the Is there any fun flavor
Speaker 4: text on the can?
Speaker 5: Well, it says murder your thirst on flavored text.
Speaker 2: God, No, it's just says murder your thirst.
Speaker 3: No, what about about politicians?
Speaker 6: This ruthless tall boy a flavored sparkling water as a
Speaker 6: twisted plan is natural.
Speaker 2: Gavey and something with how exasperated to.
Speaker 5: Murder your thirst and recycle your soul contained zero juice?
Speaker 4: That's how they want to read.
Speaker 3: I'm sure.
Speaker 4: Let's see, I've never tried the separate line.
Speaker 3: Mike, is it a roofless topboy or not? I need
Speaker 3: you to drink it.
Speaker 5: So lime is my go to bubbly flavor.
Speaker 6: Well second go to when lemon meringue is out, and
Speaker 6: it's often out, so I'm used to this flavor of
Speaker 6: sparkling water.
Speaker 2: Profile.
Speaker 3: Get the schnods in there, now, forget the marketing.
Speaker 5: Just tell us about the taste, the sweetness throwing me
Speaker 5: off a little. What a govey you tell me about
Speaker 5: the It's a sweetness, that's a sweetener.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means from agave plant. I'll
Speaker 2: be generous. It's fine, Wow, Mike, he loves it. I'll
Speaker 2: go on the record. I I enjoy liquid death because
Speaker 2: sometimes it's cheap when I want bubbly water that is
Speaker 2: very don't go for any of the flavors.
Speaker 3: Mike just hates recovering alcoholics.
Speaker 4: Heard about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank goodness you're here, Thank goodness.
Speaker 4: What other horny things we're in there?
Speaker 3: Grub Yeah, give me second. We talk about the game,
Speaker 3: like explaining the game for everybody a little bit, and
Speaker 3: I'll find some of the screenshots that I took so
Speaker 3: I can't be reminded because I don't remember otherwise.
Speaker 4: It's the most British thing I've ever seen in my
Speaker 4: entire life.
Speaker 3: It's so British that when you started off and ask
Speaker 3: a question like it easy from and it like ask
Speaker 3: a question of basically, are you from here? But it
Speaker 3: does it with its local accent and how it wrote
Speaker 3: right writes it, and it's like right, or what the
Speaker 3: hell are you talking about? And I'm like, I select that,
Speaker 3: and I think what happens is when they speak in
Speaker 3: their local accent. The close captions are basically localized into
Speaker 3: American English, so I can understand what they're really and
Speaker 3: it's great. That's really fun. My kids are watching. I
Speaker 3: don't think my kids have understood a single word these
Speaker 3: people are say.
Speaker 4: There's just a bunch of fun visual gags too. Just
Speaker 4: this little dude who I don't even think has a name.
Speaker 4: He just walks around. All you can do is like
Speaker 4: punch things, and you're just interacting with the world. It's
Speaker 4: just a lot of you going into stores or town
Speaker 4: square and stuff and somebody being like, oh, thank goodness
Speaker 4: you're here. I have this weird problem. And then you're
Speaker 4: just kind of wandering off and punch things until you
Speaker 4: fix their problem. And in the process, here are a
Speaker 4: lot of funny dialogue and a lot of visual gags
Speaker 4: and things like that. It's got this really great kind
Speaker 4: of just vivid art style. It's I think it's not
Speaker 4: a streamable game and that like, I think it's one
Speaker 4: where you just have to tell people to go play it.
Speaker 3: It's when you could maybe perform where it's like, hey,
Speaker 3: if you want to come here and get all the jokes,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be on screen and I'm not gonna be
Speaker 3: talking too much because we should just be laughing. But
Speaker 3: that's it. Like, it's not it's not great for like
Speaker 3: interacting with an audience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rebeclar talked that him and Dib had played through
Speaker 2: it and he led Dib control through it, And I
Speaker 2: think that may if you're maybe play it with a partner,
Speaker 2: a friend, or like a group of friends over discord
Speaker 2: to kind of just like observe and get the jokes
Speaker 2: versus like streaming it to an audience and like interrupting
Speaker 2: the flow of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it is a game and that you are
Speaker 4: walking around and you're like if you had described it
Speaker 4: to me as like, Okay, it's basically just walking around
Speaker 4: and seeing gags and you're barely interacting with it. It's
Speaker 4: like kind of maybe an adventure game. I guess I
Speaker 4: probably wouldn't on paper have been into this, but it
Speaker 4: is the humor and just the whole tone of the
Speaker 4: game that kind of carries it through. And it's like
Speaker 4: three hours long. Yeah, be it in two sittings. Great
Speaker 4: Steam deck game. I think it's on switch to And yeah,
Speaker 4: if that doesn't sound like your normal thing, Like it
Speaker 4: is a comedy game, which is not a thing that
Speaker 4: happens often, and if it does, it's usually not good.
Speaker 4: But this is the best version of that I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the art style kind of reminds me of the
Speaker 2: Regular Show from Cartoon Network. And yeah, I really dig
Speaker 2: the vibe the tone of it, just right off the bat.
Speaker 2: I remember this. This stuck out to me when we
Speaker 2: demo this at packs. But your one action really is
Speaker 2: just like a slap or a punch and a jump, right,
Speaker 2: and that's important.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you will jump on things. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just remember like looking over at the person playing
Speaker 2: next to Grub and they were just standing there for
Speaker 2: a good like minute slapping me. Yeah, look at this
Speaker 2: little guy slapping some big meat. There's that one where
Speaker 2: it's just a giant ass in a window and you
Speaker 2: just slap it, and the store.
Speaker 3: Just like his butt like like has waves where you
Speaker 3: slap it in a very satisfying way, and then he
Speaker 3: gets very upset and he gets he closes it, and
Speaker 3: then if you walk away, he peeks underneath and he's
Speaker 3: so angry that you slapped his bum bump. And the
Speaker 3: sign on the story says closed dude to slappy bum bum,
Speaker 3: which is it's just funny, it's good. Uh yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: trying to get some screenshots up my steam decks being weird.
Speaker 3: But there's one where it's like the guy's like mowing
Speaker 3: the lawn and they just make like multiple references to
Speaker 3: his wife could learn something from that, and it's like
Speaker 3: clearly like double untondous. But that one's just straight up
Speaker 3: a joke about like his wife could learn something. And
Speaker 3: I'm trying not to spoil the jokes because they are
Speaker 3: so much.
Speaker 2: Fun about.
Speaker 3: It's about uh no, it's it's about how hard he
Speaker 3: gripped the lawnmower. Uh yeah, grip strength joke, Yes.
Speaker 2: Grip strength joke that could be said, Yeah, yeah, like
Speaker 2: why would you assume that you learned something about you now?
Speaker 3: It's maybe like there's not like a ton to do
Speaker 3: in the game. It's just always uh in terms of
Speaker 3: like oh verbs, but you are always going to be like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I am in this area, I'm just gonna find the
Speaker 3: next thing the game kind of wants me to find,
Speaker 3: and then suddenly you'll be in some new vignette that
Speaker 3: is very funny or interesting, and it just has a
Speaker 3: really good pace to it, and it.
Speaker 4: Does a good job of like the world is kind
Speaker 4: of small enough to where you're not going to be
Speaker 4: just kind of wandering around too much, because you really
Speaker 4: are just like walking into the next area, punching everything
Speaker 4: and seeing what happens. And so like, I think if
Speaker 4: you got lost in this game, it would get kind
Speaker 4: of annoying. But I never got lost for more than
Speaker 4: like a few minutes at a time.
Speaker 2: There were parts of this game it kind of reminded
Speaker 2: me of untitled Goose game and like the exploration aspect
Speaker 2: of it, and I think I did enjoy I think, goodness,
Speaker 2: you're here more because of what you just said, Dan,
Speaker 2: of like the scenes are kind of so small and
Speaker 2: contained and like, okay, I don't have to trigger a
Speaker 2: like roub of effects to happen to continue through. It's
Speaker 2: like a little bit of puzzle solving, but nothing like
Speaker 2: too crazy.
Speaker 4: And it's obvious, like when you've stumbled upon something you
Speaker 4: need to do something with because otherwise you'll punch things
Speaker 4: and they'll say like a quick little one line or something.
Speaker 4: But then you'll like go into a store and somebody
Speaker 4: be like this machine won't work. I just need to
Speaker 4: get this, or you just got to make a pie
Speaker 4: or Whatever's like okay, well, now I know I got
Speaker 4: to look for pie stuff for something, right, yeah.
Speaker 3: And it's and like you might have a vague memory
Speaker 3: of something of like oh, there's that store that has that,
Speaker 3: But a lot of times the character that needs something
Speaker 3: will be like, just this guy stole this thing from me.
Speaker 3: Go down by the brook and find it there, and
Speaker 3: you're like, okay, well I might have trouble finding where
Speaker 3: the brook is, but you only have one pathway forward usually,
Speaker 3: so it's just keep doing stuff until something breaks or
Speaker 3: you can find hit something, or you can talk to
Speaker 3: somebody and you'll find the way forward. And then in
Speaker 3: that expiration. There's always kind of like small little fun
Speaker 3: things to do usually, so yeah, but yeah, the screenshots
Speaker 3: didn't work on my Steam deck, so I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: be able to remember specifics, Dan, But yeah, you didn't
Speaker 3: get that there was a lot of a lot of
Speaker 3: double entendre or do you think you forgot most of
Speaker 3: those jokes?
Speaker 4: Honestly, the more they're both likely and that I think
Speaker 4: I don't realize things, and also I forget things, but
Speaker 4: forgetting is usually a more powerful thing for me than
Speaker 4: not getting this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of that though, and the especially
Speaker 3: in the first hour, I think maybe it slows down
Speaker 3: after that a little bit. They'll make some references here
Speaker 3: or there that are like, oh, cheeky and all that.
Speaker 3: But but it definitely does a good job of being
Speaker 3: for all audiences in that way where it's like, here's
Speaker 3: a joke, and if you are an adult, it'll hit
Speaker 3: you here, and if you're young, and I'm like, this
Speaker 3: is just silly.
Speaker 2: I think it's appropriate. We had like that long tangent
Speaker 2: at the beginning of the pod of like Nickelodeon shows,
Speaker 2: because this is like a interactable show in some aspects, it's.
Speaker 3: Like even cut like that where you'll be doing a
Speaker 3: scene and then the they're just gonna end the scene
Speaker 3: because they need to cut to the next joke in
Speaker 3: a different place. And then when that joke is like
Speaker 3: fading out, your character will be like pop out of
Speaker 3: a pie or something, and and it just again, that
Speaker 3: really plays into the fun pacing it where it's like
Speaker 3: you are never going to be stuck in any one
Speaker 3: like little vignette for too long.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is fun, Like you describe the ones where
Speaker 4: it just cuts to a different scene and you'll be
Speaker 4: watching something happen for a while and you'll be like, wait,
Speaker 4: where's my dude? Do I have control over this? And
Speaker 4: you're like hit a and yeah, you're up out of something,
Speaker 4: or you'll he's like oh there I am in the background,
Speaker 4: or oh I'm going to give this pipe or whatever.
Speaker 4: It's this feels like a hard one to describe, but
Speaker 4: I feel like it's one that if you played for
Speaker 4: five minutes, you'd be like, I see what the deal
Speaker 4: is here?
Speaker 3: You know? Yes, And the kids are also like what
Speaker 3: why is he so small in this scene? And I
Speaker 3: love like I love yeah, I'm like I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. It's he's a cartoon. They could just
Speaker 3: do whatever they want, and they're playing around with that.
Speaker 3: That's all like it doesn't make sense, Like yep, you're right,
Speaker 3: but they do a lot of that.
Speaker 4: It gets very surreal. The stuff, like the meat stuff,
Speaker 4: I don't know, like we're nearing that weird meat world
Speaker 4: failed too much. Yeah, yeah, it's very odd game, but.
Speaker 3: Very far The guy, the guy that's like bedridden trying
Speaker 3: to get something in his leg or arm pops out
Speaker 3: and just keeps going.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of fun stuff. Yeah, you never really
Speaker 4: know what's going to happen next, and it's all just
Speaker 4: like a little lot of little vignettes and they pretty
Speaker 4: much all hit For me.
Speaker 3: It's worth playing, it's worth experiencing. But like this is
Speaker 3: one where if you do watch someone play it, you're
Speaker 3: also going to get the idea. I mean, I hate
Speaker 3: to say that because it's like, you know, go buy
Speaker 3: the game and play it or whatever, but you will
Speaker 3: get a lot of the same experience from watching someone play.
Speaker 4: I think I just want to hear someone comment over
Speaker 4: it and like step on the timing and things like that.
Speaker 4: Launch commentary, yeah, long play, no commentary, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: At that point, though, I also think you may lose
Speaker 2: on some stuff of the discovery factor and just like.
Speaker 4: Oh what yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: I think I think maybe the ideal way is if
Speaker 3: you like play it in a in a crowd, like
Speaker 3: there in the room with you, sure, perform it for
Speaker 3: like a local audience so that you can all like
Speaker 3: laugh at the jokes together and someone can suggest something
Speaker 3: you could try that that's been working really well for us.
Speaker 2: But be respectful like a good movie going audience, and
Speaker 2: only laugh when it's appropriate. No side commentary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't need your comments.
Speaker 2: We don't need your comments. Just move, move along in
Speaker 2: your pocket. I think I missed something anyway. Another game
Speaker 2: I've been playing and Dan looks like you've been playing,
Speaker 2: is a Ranger Ranger. It's similar to a Soco Bond
Speaker 2: style game, but instead of you yourself moving, you were
Speaker 2: moving kind of your either vertical or horizontal lane of you.
Speaker 3: Guys.
Speaker 4: Get this, I don't know, but it mights me more
Speaker 4: of like rather like a traditional tile based game or strategy,
Speaker 4: and it's more of like a like Ababa is you
Speaker 4: the way you move around and kind of scoot things
Speaker 4: around the map, you know, but it is.
Speaker 2: It a Yoshi's cookie like.
Speaker 3: Said it. It was the first word he said, what's that?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: That is push box style, yes, like chips challenge or
Speaker 2: something like chips Challenge. Actually, you've had this conversation before
Speaker 2: to it's chips challenge. Is the unites everyone in understand
Speaker 2: called Soco bon it's bond. I think is box In
Speaker 2: Japanese it tuchos push maybe. Yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: didn't get that far in due a lingo. I only
Speaker 2: know how to order it for rice, right, which didn't
Speaker 2: come in handy in Japan. Actually, yeah, weird, but Dan,
Speaker 2: there's a pretty heavy story component to a Arranger on
Speaker 2: top of like the puzzle stuff. Has any of that
Speaker 2: hit with you or no steeping through it? Okay, not
Speaker 2: really like, but I'm also not super far. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: kind of the same way. I've also been kind of
Speaker 2: touched on Dungeons of Henterberg as well, with like two
Speaker 2: games where it's like the gameplay I'm curious about and
Speaker 2: interested in, but there is definitely a story element that's like,
Speaker 2: all right, I'll read this stuff, but it's not really
Speaker 2: doing a ton for me. But yeah, Arranger it's more
Speaker 2: like it is a it's a think them. There's definitely
Speaker 2: like those puzzles are like, Okay, I need to get
Speaker 2: this sword over to this side of the map, but
Speaker 2: there's this like stone foot here that blocks the way,
Speaker 2: so I got to figure out how to like because
Speaker 2: it loops around most of the time, Like if you
Speaker 2: go put something down off the bottom of the map,
Speaker 2: it'll come out the top, left, to the right, things
Speaker 2: like that, But then there will be blockers and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. So it's a lot of like maneuvering and
Speaker 2: figuring out, like okay, if I.
Speaker 4: Put this over here and it's a it's solid like
Speaker 4: a lot of puzzles like that. I wonder how long
Speaker 4: that will stay interesting, Like how often they introduce new
Speaker 4: elements of that and stuff, because I don't think I
Speaker 4: would just want to do that for the duration of
Speaker 4: the whole game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they introduce some neat puzzle elements where there are
Speaker 2: static objects that don't move around because you can virtually
Speaker 2: move everything else around you, even including the NPCs. And
Speaker 2: it's funny how the game opens because you push someone
Speaker 2: off a ladder and they're just incredibly like upset with you.
Speaker 2: It's like what the fuck, I'm tired of your shit,
Speaker 2: get out of this town. But I dig the story
Speaker 2: component of it as well. It talks a lot about
Speaker 2: like packing your things up and like how moving forward
Speaker 2: can be challenging if you're holding onto the past. So
Speaker 2: if you dig the puzzle elements of arranger, I hope
Speaker 2: you also enjoy the story bits because it's hitting with
Speaker 2: me personally, and I kind of dig the art style. Dan,
Speaker 2: what would you say it reminds you of? Because I
Speaker 2: can't quite path.
Speaker 4: That it very directly reminded me of.
Speaker 3: It looks kind of like more cartoony Spelunky in terms
Speaker 3: of dark Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, looked less fucked up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, Dan.
Speaker 2: Does it look like a flash game?
Speaker 4: I wasn't gonna say, but you did. I could see
Speaker 4: the braid thing just kind of like a stumpy little characters. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that art style.
Speaker 3: I'm should I if I were to, like, if I'm
Speaker 3: the mood for a think them up? Yes? Do you
Speaker 3: guys think I should go with this or I should
Speaker 3: go for Laura?
Speaker 2: And it depends on how much time you have, because
Speaker 2: this arranger is a more casual kind of like go
Speaker 2: with the flow, think them up? And then Laura and
Speaker 2: the Laser Eyes. It is a whole thing.
Speaker 3: Grubb.
Speaker 4: Lorali is like, look like Golden Idol, you know, the
Speaker 4: mountain you have to think during that game. It's like
Speaker 4: three times that.
Speaker 3: That sounds good too, though a lot.
Speaker 2: I think it might actually be fun to stream Grub
Speaker 2: because then you know, you can kind of think out
Speaker 2: your process with people as long as the audience is
Speaker 2: experiencing it with you and they're not spoiling anything you do.
Speaker 3: No vackseating role.
Speaker 2: Yeah sure, okay, yeah, God, I got to finish that,
Speaker 2: but I feel like I have to start from the
Speaker 2: beginning because I wouldn't know how to continue where I'm at.
Speaker 2: Oh god, no, oh God. A game that I'm curious
Speaker 2: about that you Dan and Grub have been playing though,
Speaker 2: is Khunitsugami Pa of the Goddess Man. Grubbis sorry, I
Speaker 2: just started this, yeah, so, and I was like, I've
Speaker 2: heard too many people say that they're like liking this game,
Speaker 2: and then I hear them again though, I actually think
Speaker 2: I love this game yep. And references to Pickman, references
Speaker 2: to Odama and a bunch of other weird stuff and
Speaker 2: the way they just mashes up genres.
Speaker 3: I am maybe a couple hours in, maybe a few
Speaker 3: hours in, and I'm seeing it. I get it, and
Speaker 3: a lot of it is like it is. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of systems, there's a lot of a Cannix, and
Speaker 3: there's a lot of stuff to upgrade, a lot of
Speaker 3: stuff to pay attention to. And yet when you're in there,
Speaker 3: it's like, now protect the lady, let her get to
Speaker 3: this thing. And however you choose to just like to
Speaker 3: deploy some of these things is up to you. And
Speaker 3: I've been enjoying it. It's not what I expected at all,
Speaker 3: even though I had a million people tell me it's
Speaker 3: like a tower defense and stuff like that. I'm like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: I get it. And it's like there's a lot more
Speaker 3: going on than that. How are you finding it day?
Speaker 4: I mean, that's why I'm liking it is because, like
Speaker 4: you know, I love Devil May Cry and Benetta and
Speaker 4: just like action games just you know, Square Triangle Action,
Speaker 4: you know third person stuff that suffs great. But there's
Speaker 4: a ton of those games. And I think the reason
Speaker 4: I'm loving this is because this is not what I expected.
Speaker 4: In an interesting way. With the tower defense elements, there
Speaker 4: like very light ARTSS elements the stuff like the loop
Speaker 4: of going back to the base afterwards and like assigning
Speaker 4: people to build things, and it's I could see the
Speaker 4: Pickman stuff too, but like it's it's like Pickman if
Speaker 4: you could choose, like Okay, I want you to be
Speaker 4: a blue pickman, I want you to be a rock Pickman.
Speaker 4: You go over there, and it's like time kind of
Speaker 4: pauses and you can you can do that like setting
Speaker 4: up things before. Like there's like a day night cycle,
Speaker 4: so basically you're moving the Goddess during the day and
Speaker 4: then at night all these demons come in attack. So
Speaker 4: the loop is great both on the like in mission
Speaker 4: level with the sun moon stuff, and then also when
Speaker 4: it pulls out and you're building the bases and things
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 3: And you feel like you're always progressing towards something. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: and you do something and it's like all right, now
Speaker 3: go do a mission to progress that, and it gives
Speaker 3: it gets you right back into the other loop. It's
Speaker 3: really good.
Speaker 4: And it's it's one of those games too that like
Speaker 4: even though I've beat a mission, I want to go
Speaker 4: back later because like, oh I've unlocked these two or
Speaker 4: three different types of uh, you know Warrior, Like, I've
Speaker 4: got archers now, so I want to go back to
Speaker 4: that first one and see if I can get these
Speaker 4: optional objectives because now I have archers, now I can
Speaker 4: hit these flying enemies and stuff. So it's, uh, I've
Speaker 4: enjoyed every part of it so far, and it's it's
Speaker 4: just not what I expected, but in a good way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it runs really well on steam Deck, which is
Speaker 3: where I'm playing it.
Speaker 4: There's some tweaks to do. I looked up some tweaks
Speaker 4: it does. If you do the default settings on steam Deck,
Speaker 4: it's it's very uh, I don't know, it just looks
Speaker 4: very Pix's noisy.
Speaker 3: It's very noisy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, if you bring down to thirty
Speaker 4: frames a second, which I normally don't do, and you
Speaker 4: make another couple tweaks you just google, you know, steam
Speaker 4: deck settings for Kininsagami, Uh, it runs a lot better.
Speaker 4: And then you bring it down that thirty refresh rate
Speaker 4: that triples and stuff.
Speaker 3: Like that, right exactly, the frame tripling all that stuff.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: It's just something that like reminds me of Vita game
Speaker 6: so much. But like that's how I would want to
Speaker 6: play this game. Is portably for some reason, Like I
Speaker 6: don't even want it as a couch game for for
Speaker 6: whatever reason.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, man, I need a like I need another
Speaker 2: Steam Deck game.
Speaker 3: Thank you guys. Yeah, it's it's it's it's rough, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I just Capcom is on a roll, right. They are
Speaker 3: just crushing them all about it. They put right, they
Speaker 3: put this out, and it's fifty dollars. It's like their
Speaker 3: budget game. They're gonna try something different, and it's people
Speaker 3: are readying about this as well.
Speaker 4: I'm glad weird Capcom still exists because, like you know,
Speaker 4: they've hit it real huge with their big franchises lately,
Speaker 4: with their Monster Hunters and Resident Evils and everything. But
Speaker 4: like you know, they always would pull out like a
Speaker 4: god hand or something weird, and like, I'm glad we
Speaker 4: got Prime. Yeah, Dark Dark Void, Lost Planet. You know,
Speaker 4: like let's let's get.
Speaker 2: The weird carap Void Dark Void hold that battle. It
Speaker 2: wasn't great when it came out, but I'd be curious
Speaker 2: to see it now.
Speaker 3: I always wanted to play it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, an even where a jetpack is the main thing,
Speaker 4: like Bionic Comando, you had a fucking the grapple thing
Speaker 4: was the main mechanic like I love and.
Speaker 5: Of those three sixty games, yes, dandy like rockin Knight Adventures.
Speaker 4: I think that's the only Rocket Knight I played. Am
Speaker 4: I reviewed that per game and gave a good review.
Speaker 5: I think, oh, you played that new one, I mean
Speaker 5: the Genesis one.
Speaker 2: Forget about the three Sakes.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I never played. I never played that or Wristar.
Speaker 4: Those were two tenptori specials. He always told me.
Speaker 2: About Rock Knight's better. Yes, sure, this probably only applies
Speaker 2: to a baby's handful of audience members. But anytime I
Speaker 2: read Bionic Commando in a magazine or a YouTube title,
Speaker 2: I thought of Bionical, and I thought Capcom was making
Speaker 2: bionical video games.
Speaker 5: You are younger than us. You care about bionical.
Speaker 2: The world should care about bionicals, Mike Manatti, that's.
Speaker 3: Horny for bionicals.
Speaker 2: No, oddly, yes, oh yes, I don't Rocket Night.
Speaker 5: I thought that'd be the one thing. What about Rocking Knight?
Speaker 4: What do you think?
Speaker 6: I gave it the three the three twenty one on
Speaker 6: twenty twenty ten to one. I don't know, like a
Speaker 6: seventy two.
Speaker 4: Eight Here to Night is his name? Sparkster the Rocket Knight.
Speaker 6: Yeah, his name is Sparkster at some of the sequels
Speaker 6: were called Sparkster. Yes, well, if you like that, you
Speaker 6: should play Rocking Knight Adventures for the sake of Genesis.
Speaker 6: Maybe I will, all right, Yeah, In fact, I think
Speaker 6: he might actually be right over here. Hello, buddy, there
Speaker 6: he is.
Speaker 2: There's Sparkster. Oh why do you have that?
Speaker 4: Ready?
Speaker 2: Wow, I don't worry about it.
Speaker 3: I really like rocking Ready.
Speaker 2: While we were talking, oh, you got a good gift
Speaker 2: and everything. Look, there's yeah, okay, cool, damn good. Good
Speaker 2: for you, Mike, thank you for adding to the production
Speaker 2: of the podcast. I appear like, what death.
Speaker 4: Has a weird aftertaste, right, thought just me, that's maybe
Speaker 4: just you just tasted water.
Speaker 3: So I mentioned that the just the straight up water tastes.
Speaker 3: There was I was in the voicemail dumb truck when
Speaker 3: Jam was gone, and there were a lot of calls
Speaker 3: and one of the things that I wanted to include,
Speaker 3: but it was two in favor of liquid Death, uh,
Speaker 3: was that it's the straight water tastes like when you
Speaker 3: drink water from the hose in the summer as a kid,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, yeah, I kind of got that vibe
Speaker 3: when I drank that. You know, that's pretty good.
Speaker 4: Bon Yellow texted me during that dump truck saying he
Speaker 4: was a shoot hot in Japan because Manati was hating
Speaker 4: liquid death. And then he's like, he was like, if
Speaker 4: you need to talk to me about it, I can
Speaker 4: explain to him why he's wrong and why it's good.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, why are you also passionate about this
Speaker 6: mediocre seltzer water.
Speaker 4: Prime's good too, They're both good.
Speaker 2: I saw it felt like a religious experience. There was
Speaker 2: like the bomb pop flavor of Prime. Yeah, just like
Speaker 2: right in front of Comic Con, just like a small bottle,
Speaker 2: like on a on a ledge. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 2: we're in a good place right now. Yeah. There was
Speaker 2: no hydration station. I was waiting for people to hang
Speaker 2: outside of pickup trucks to throw me free beverages. That
Speaker 2: never happened once. Really no, no, sorry, across the board
Speaker 2: in the marketing, they can't go that way now. Across
Speaker 2: the board. I was disappointed. But then I did fire
Speaker 2: up chimebomb dot com h slash chat on a Friday afternoon,
Speaker 2: and I saw that across the board there was fun happening.
Speaker 2: Demon Slayer sweep the board.
Speaker 4: Someone told me I was getting worked by all you
Speaker 4: because I was saying, like, there's no way Mario Party
Speaker 4: is this slow. There's no way the pacing is like
Speaker 4: this and Mario Party, and people were pucking with me
Speaker 4: and saying that, no, this is identical. We've done the
Speaker 4: maths exactly the same amount of turns and somebody said
Speaker 4: it was like two to three times slower than Mario Party.
Speaker 4: So it wasn't crazy and you were all trying to work.
Speaker 3: Two to three times it seems extreme.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: We did twenty turns in what was like two and
Speaker 3: a half hours.
Speaker 2: I was you guys were playing much longer than I
Speaker 2: thought you'd be.
Speaker 6: But sometimes we didn't have to do a mini game
Speaker 6: when it was like dark out, we didn't even have
Speaker 6: a mini game at the end of the turns.
Speaker 3: Way to be clear, every almost every space having a
Speaker 3: shop down.
Speaker 4: Yes, I know depend that in Mario Party, the game
Speaker 4: keep One where there's too many shops and ship I
Speaker 4: hate that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3: Your biggest critic of Mario Party, Dan Rykor.
Speaker 4: I'm an honest critic of Mario Party.
Speaker 2: Well, Dan, how does it rank with Mario Party?
Speaker 4: It would if it was in the Mario Party lineage,
Speaker 4: it would be the worst one, really, I think the
Speaker 4: worse than the wee one Redriver Mario in it.
Speaker 2: Well, sure, sure it has like fun anime people, but like, uh,
Speaker 2: is the flow relatively the same? You got a board, dice,
Speaker 2: take turn.
Speaker 3: It's relatively the same.
Speaker 4: If you just looked at the trailer of it, you
Speaker 4: would think, oh my god, it's Mario Party.
Speaker 3: That's hot rope jump.
Speaker 4: They've got dice, they've got shops, they've got a star
Speaker 4: space space that moves around. But just the pacing and
Speaker 4: mini games and everything are just not on the same
Speaker 4: quality level.
Speaker 2: Got it? Got it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: They weren't great.
Speaker 6: I liked the demon fight things with like the we
Speaker 6: were suddenly doing QTE moments or whatever.
Speaker 3: Those were fun. It's the same thing every time. I
Speaker 3: kind of suck.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, god yeah, there's only two of them, so that
Speaker 5: got yeah? Got well.
Speaker 2: I think this was a really a game that was only.
Speaker 6: Meant to be played, Like what was the default that
Speaker 6: it wanted us to do? Like ten, and they're like,
Speaker 6: well we'll do fifteen that and then just's like okay,
Speaker 6: compromise twenty.
Speaker 2: They've gotten mad at him.
Speaker 4: Here is the default Mario Party. So I saw that
Speaker 4: as still being kind of like, okay, we're being like,
Speaker 4: we should do more than the default Mario.
Speaker 3: I think it was the appropriate amount of misery doubt
Speaker 3: in exactly right. Yeah, we really learned altose last five turns.
Speaker 3: The lead change was really impacted by it and everything.
Speaker 3: I listen, who gets about the game. But it's like
Speaker 3: us being miserable in those last five turns is where
Speaker 3: it really came together for me.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you right now, though, Mario Party, jan Boree.
Speaker 4: When that comes out, we are playing maximum turns. The
Speaker 4: last couple of switch ones I've had thirty is the max.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I have a I have beef of chat actually because
Speaker 6: they're playing this and I'm like, ah, I thought Demuslayer
Speaker 6: was some kind of like serious violent anime, but these people,
Speaker 6: this is all very colorful and bright and everybody seems
Speaker 6: kind of happy and nice, and was like, yeah, that's
Speaker 6: just what's the most shown in thing. Ever, I don't
Speaker 6: really know what that means. I assume that's it's like
Speaker 6: it's the most dragon ball z a jacent thing you
Speaker 6: can imagine, lighthearted, blah blah, blah, so like, okay, so
Speaker 6: that I just like read the wikis about uh Demon
Speaker 6: Slayer and was shoot depressed over the weekend, So thank
Speaker 6: you everybody.
Speaker 2: My hero Academia is more shown in than Demon Slayer
Speaker 2: is uh and is pretty much like, oh is he
Speaker 2: a Naruto?
Speaker 4: What anyone talking about?
Speaker 6: All right, okay, okay, let's move on with the games.
Speaker 6: I'm very du dragon Ball one piece sh right, yes.
Speaker 3: Sometimes can we just like explain like shon In is
Speaker 3: like a weekly magazine or something, and these characters appear
Speaker 3: in there first.
Speaker 6: I don't know how it works, says the chat like
Speaker 6: it's like the anime equivalent of Saturday Morning Cartoon.
Speaker 2: Okay, sometimes, go ahead, my go ahead.
Speaker 6: So I'm not getting that vibrating the week wiki and
Speaker 6: getting sad about characters I had developed a slate attachment
Speaker 6: from this fucking Mario party club that sounds like a skill.
Speaker 6: Is shue your job? And I don't know, Yeah, you know,
Speaker 6: I'm rough with this stuff, Jim.
Speaker 2: Uh. Sometimes Dan feels like he's in a show in yeah,
Speaker 2: and we're the supporting characters. It's a good thing. It's
Speaker 2: a good thing.
Speaker 3: Okay, good thing.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's good it's good. It's good. And my Goku
Speaker 2: uh yeah, maybe not goku, but like you're you're like
Speaker 2: a loofy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a loofy trenches out in weird ways. Yeah,
Speaker 3: did Lufi a dragon ball?
Speaker 2: He's a one piece. He's a one piece to the
Speaker 2: pirate one. Yes, yeah, Okay, I got.
Speaker 3: A code for a video game that let's you just
Speaker 3: give to you and you could just play it and
Speaker 3: just inside for yourself. Maybe I don't know I'm allowed
Speaker 3: to say it yet, so just being vague.
Speaker 5: Huh, I'm not me?
Speaker 4: Oh yes, yeah, baby, yeah, you are no me.
Speaker 3: She has everywhere.
Speaker 2: Look hard is just my my very narrow view of
Speaker 2: one piece or knowledge of one piece. Sean is like
Speaker 2: a zoro, I think. Uh, and we'll leave it at that. Uh, Mike,
Speaker 2: you're like Chopper. I think.
Speaker 3: You know what that Star Wars rebels.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, that's that's too that's too
Speaker 2: much of a compliment and I want to keep my
Speaker 2: ground anyway, Mike, you have been playing Dark Souls?
Speaker 5: Did you mean Chomper the baby t Rex from Lamb
Speaker 5: Before Time two?
Speaker 6: Dark Souls? Oh you want Dark Souls? Yeah, I've been
Speaker 6: playing Dark Souls. The video game Dark Souls Remastered. This
Speaker 6: is my first playthrough of Dark Cells. I killed Jan apparently.
Speaker 6: This is my first playthrough of Dark Souls. I've been
Speaker 6: doing it on Twitch. I'm like eighteen hours in now,
Speaker 6: you know, playing the Outer Ring DLC. I had a
Speaker 6: lot of fun with that. Some people like said, oh,
Speaker 6: like the smaller scale, it's more like you're playing a
Speaker 6: Dark Souls blah blah blah. I'm like, it's really weird.
Speaker 6: I never actually played Dark Souls, yeah at all. Like
Speaker 6: I played a big dem Souls when it came out,
Speaker 6: a bit of the remake, I played through Bloodborne, played
Speaker 6: a bit of Secre like Dark Souls, just never played it.
Speaker 6: I was like, okay, we should get back to that
Speaker 6: and actually just just do that at some point, and
Speaker 6: it has been a lot of fun. It has been
Speaker 6: fun doing it on Twitch too, because it's like, you know,
Speaker 6: it's like the chat saying, oh, he's about to go
Speaker 6: to black Town, and I'm like, what does that mean?
Speaker 6: Why are you so excited about that? And then I
Speaker 6: find out while they're excited, because it's miserable.
Speaker 4: Is that the really dark area that you've been in
Speaker 4: when I've been watching you lately.
Speaker 6: No, that was a separate thing that was also rough
Speaker 6: where I was in this area that's completely dark and
Speaker 6: you don't have a torch for a while, so you
Speaker 6: just fall to your death a lot. And like, you know,
Speaker 6: like the suffering is fun in a lot of ways,
Speaker 6: right that that's a good appeal to this. So the
Speaker 6: one thing I haven't been liking.
Speaker 3: Souls fifty can't wait to watch you do that.
Speaker 5: Our Soul party Dark Soul's party party.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah.
Speaker 6: The one the one thing that I that is a
Speaker 6: bit archaic to me that they did improve in future
Speaker 6: games is the walk backs, right, so you don't have
Speaker 6: the stakes America's right at the boss doores. So you
Speaker 6: know when you diet the boss, it's not just oh
Speaker 6: you have to walk a little bit to get back there.
Speaker 5: You just maybe even just spawn right there. It is
Speaker 5: you are walking a while just to.
Speaker 6: Get another chance at the boss, and then you're probably
Speaker 6: gonna die again. Forget about your souls, you already lost
Speaker 6: those that ain't happening, right, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Just give up.
Speaker 4: That sounds kind of brutal, like in a bad way,
Speaker 4: you know, Like there's the right level of brutal, and
Speaker 4: I think elden Ring kind of found.
Speaker 5: That right exactly, and I you know, again, like so
Speaker 5: much of these games is about kind of being.
Speaker 3: Brutal, and like, yeah, it's a balance of the hard way, right,
Speaker 3: because when you have the run backs, you can only
Speaker 3: make the bosses so hard. So an elden Ring, especially
Speaker 3: the DLC, they're like, we'll put a stake America right
Speaker 3: in front of the door, but that means this boss
Speaker 3: can do an endless combo on you and is just
Speaker 3: gonna wreck you in and so it's like they can
Speaker 3: like balance it in a different direction, so they play
Speaker 3: with that, you know.
Speaker 6: I like kind of like running my head against the
Speaker 6: wall sometimes on bosses, like oh this boss is really hard.
Speaker 6: It's gonna take a bunch of attempts. But having to
Speaker 6: do that like ten minute walk back and a lot
Speaker 6: of times that means that I'm just gonna try to
Speaker 6: run past these enemies because I'm sick of fighting them.
Speaker 6: And sometimes because you're doing that, they're gonna kill you
Speaker 6: or something else. So yeah, that's like the one thing
Speaker 6: that I'm like, like not having a jump in this
Speaker 6: game whatever the game's design, so you don't have a
Speaker 6: jump that's not a problem, but the runbacks are annoying.
Speaker 5: But man, no, it's been really cool.
Speaker 6: I can see why this is a lot of people's,
Speaker 6: you know, most beloved game ever, a lot of really
Speaker 6: fun boss fights that Ornstein and Smog one, right, the
Speaker 6: two people that you fight in that kind of cathedral
Speaker 6: castle place. I heard people talk about that one a
Speaker 6: lot going into this, and it was like, this really
Speaker 6: neat boss fight. It was kind of just fun doing it,
Speaker 6: knowing like everyone talks about this boss fight and now
Speaker 6: I'm fighting it, and I've been doing a pure strength
Speaker 6: build like I like to do, so I just in fact,
Speaker 6: I found something called a dragon tooth. I just literally
Speaker 6: had this giant dragon tooth that I use like a
Speaker 6: club that I just absolutely like hammer people with.
Speaker 5: So that feels great. Now I'm wearing like the heaviest
Speaker 5: armor possible.
Speaker 6: Right, just being a real big beefy boy with fat
Speaker 6: rolls everywhere and loving it, just using shields and trying
Speaker 6: to just survive it instead of dodging them style.
Speaker 4: I feel better about my characters when I watch you
Speaker 4: play from games, because like I always feel like, am
Speaker 4: I cheesing it?
Speaker 3: By?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: Should I be trying to be more just kind of
Speaker 4: like life and you know, like agile and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: And I feel like I'm just putting on a bunch
Speaker 4: of cheesy like big armor and stuff. And I look
Speaker 4: at Mike's characters and they're just like just the fastest,
Speaker 4: just just wrapped. Yeah, this summer lot of summersault flop
Speaker 4: he's doing every time, I'm like, okay, all right, this
Speaker 4: is a viable way to play this game.
Speaker 3: When I was like, I was like, oh man, it's
Speaker 3: good this last boss and ol Dring's gonna take me forever.
Speaker 3: I should just go look and see what Mike's doing.
Speaker 3: And I tried to use a shield for a little bit.
Speaker 3: I've not really used the shield. This is so different
Speaker 3: FU this and so I'm like I just butted my
Speaker 3: head against it and beat it without a shield, but
Speaker 3: it took a lot longer.
Speaker 6: It is funny because like whenever I do watch people
Speaker 6: play these games, they usually are just rolling around like crazy.
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, that's not how I live.
Speaker 3: Should be apparently different, no, it Dark Souls one. I
Speaker 3: think your way of doing things is the rightest way
Speaker 3: of doing things.
Speaker 6: It seems like, yeah, I've been doing pretty good, like
Speaker 6: like early on there's these two gargoles out to fight,
Speaker 6: and that was probably the most I struggled. Anytime I
Speaker 6: had the fight more than one thing, it gets significantly harder. Right,
Speaker 6: Maybe that weren't see it smog fight. I think like
Speaker 6: six attempts or maybe seven. It took me to kind
Speaker 6: of put that altogether. Nothing too bad, but yeah, that
Speaker 6: guy at.
Speaker 3: The top of the tower early on, I never saw
Speaker 3: the culmination of that. Did you beat that guy, that
Speaker 3: very armored guy that was at the top of the spiral?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was just that was the second attempt like that.
Speaker 6: There's quite a few bosses here that almost feel a
Speaker 6: bit like, oh, playing ur Tree put me in the
Speaker 6: hyperblock time chamber, or like or you know, I'm Broccoli
Speaker 6: or whoever you like ticking the weights off, because I'm
Speaker 6: used to these characters that have these five combo strings whatnot.
Speaker 6: Some of these people they have like one attack, so
Speaker 6: either dodge.
Speaker 2: It or roll.
Speaker 4: Wait, what did you say that broke in?
Speaker 5: As I say, Broccoli, it's Rockley, He's.
Speaker 2: Rudo.
Speaker 6: Yeah, am I gonna read his fate on a fandom
Speaker 6: wiki and get the pressed all weekend two?
Speaker 7: You might actually, yes, totally Broccoli like is it spelled
Speaker 7: like the vegetable? No, No, it's Rock Rocks be okay, Yes,
Speaker 7: I shouldn't let the fate of fictional characters and shows
Speaker 7: I don't even watch impact my mood for a whole week.
Speaker 2: I do kind of enjoy that about you, though, Mike.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't change it about you, but it
Speaker 3: seems like it bumped you out. So yeah said this week, Oh.
Speaker 2: Man, what's a good one to make you read up about? No?
Speaker 3: No, I kind of want to see his response to
Speaker 3: what happens with Rock, especially after episode fifteen.
Speaker 6: Right, so cool actually going to I had to stop
Speaker 6: watching the show because he was my favorite character.
Speaker 5: Are happy endings in this ship?
Speaker 2: Eventually?
Speaker 3: I think they do? But I was just so, yeah,
Speaker 3: you should read it was I talking. I was asking
Speaker 3: about that, and I was asked about that mini boss
Speaker 3: at the top of the spiral stair. Oh that one. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that one took me a while because it was like
Speaker 3: somebody it was that like a like a like a
Speaker 3: skill check for you, like kind of figuring out how
Speaker 3: the game works a little bit.
Speaker 5: It was on a skill check.
Speaker 6: I think I kind of went somewhere where there was
Speaker 6: this guy who maybe I wasn't even really supposed to
Speaker 6: fight yet. It wasn't a real boss tho, and I
Speaker 6: was basically cheesing it by just strafing around him a
Speaker 6: lot and getting as many backstabs as possible. Okay, Like,
Speaker 6: the one thing I was trying to get a little
Speaker 6: bit used to was there's a lot more eye frames
Speaker 6: on enemies after you do things like those back attacks
Speaker 6: or certain things.
Speaker 5: But like I had to really wait for him to
Speaker 5: get back up before I could at that again.
Speaker 6: But like the point I was trying to make before,
Speaker 6: it is just that there's a lot of a lot
Speaker 6: of these bosses aren't too bad because they basically do
Speaker 6: just swing once and then you could attack them twice
Speaker 6: anyway for them to swing again.
Speaker 3: The rock Lee thing, You're right, the Elden Ring DLC
Speaker 3: bosses are going to make a lot of these look
Speaker 3: very simple.
Speaker 6: Right, And you know, obviously, like when the bosses are
Speaker 6: doing things like there's two of them or attacks are
Speaker 6: a bit more complicated.
Speaker 2: That was much a problem.
Speaker 6: Like at the end of Blake Town, I had to
Speaker 6: fight a spider lady. You know, it was another thing
Speaker 6: where it was just like, ah, she's very big and clunky,
Speaker 6: it's pretty easy just to get right up in there
Speaker 6: and stray dodger attack and hit her a bunch. And again,
Speaker 6: I have a strength build, so I do a ton
Speaker 6: of damage so I can get through these things.
Speaker 2: What's the bad out of character for you build you
Speaker 2: all have went with in a Soul's game like out
Speaker 2: of left field for how your normal plus style.
Speaker 3: Is the First time I played Alden Ring, I was
Speaker 3: my character that I had to abandon because I did
Speaker 3: the new game plus was a mage built kind of doing.
Speaker 3: I was standing back and just using my wand and
Speaker 3: sending magic at guys through or basically that entire game.
Speaker 6: Never I don't know if I really do that. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I almost always dose strength spills. I can't remember what
Speaker 6: my blood Born build was, but I think it was
Speaker 6: pretty normy because by boy, you don't have quite as
Speaker 6: many options of what you can do.
Speaker 4: My first time an Eldin Ring, I remember thinking, like, man,
Speaker 4: every game, I'm always just the most like boring like
Speaker 4: sword and Shield guy or whatever. So I think I
Speaker 4: went hard like Glintstone intelligence stuff. Yeah, first time, I'm like,
Speaker 4: it's all right, but I wasn't like following any kind
Speaker 4: of guide or anything it was pre released, so it's like,
Speaker 4: I just I don't know if I did it right,
Speaker 4: because like a lot of the like late game stuff
Speaker 4: just didn't work right for me. But then the next
Speaker 4: time I followed a guy for like a Faith and
Speaker 4: Dexterity build with like the blastph misplade and all that,
Speaker 4: and that was awesome.
Speaker 3: Yes, that was very good.
Speaker 2: I think I tend to skew in kind of close
Speaker 2: in between you Dan and Mike of being like the
Speaker 2: heavy rolls and like big sword shields and stuff. But
Speaker 2: I went with a Samurai build for Eldin Ring, and
Speaker 2: I didn't really have as much fun. I think this
Speaker 2: is also because it was pre released. Because God, two
Speaker 2: three months after Elden Ring came out, I see these
Speaker 2: people with eight foot katanas that you blood. I'm like,
Speaker 2: where did y'all find this? Right? God, there's so much.
Speaker 6: I never got, like the weapons that were like you know,
Speaker 6: do bleed or rah and whatnot. You know, I do damage.
Speaker 2: I do good old shoot damage. I don't blood status effects.
Speaker 2: Oh there's a status effect though. Uh in dark Souls,
Speaker 2: like you can get poisoned, but EINGI also get venoms,
Speaker 2: which is like it doesn't go away. There are very
Speaker 2: few items that cre it and like, and that's what
Speaker 2: bike counts rough because there's just these snipers that shoot
Speaker 2: you of a bolt. There's a you've been venom and
Speaker 2: it's you know, literally the guess I'll die then to me,
Speaker 2: like what am I going?
Speaker 6: Because your health just starts draining like crazy. You're not
Speaker 6: going to cure it, You're not gonna wait it out,
Speaker 6: You're gonna run out of flasks.
Speaker 2: And there's five other skeleton people trying to murder you.
Speaker 2: So that's fun. Mike, Do you perhaps mean toxic?
Speaker 6: And I'm always did you see me play that Demon
Speaker 6: Slayer game toxic? I was winning most of the time,
Speaker 6: and I was still screaming at people.
Speaker 4: He hates liquid death. He's just a negative, angry person.
Speaker 3: Ye, toxicity.
Speaker 2: People always saying about me. That's my real drink here.
Speaker 4: He's gonna be such a smart in the summer slam crowd.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 6: I love the spiritual disparity between the two drinks I
Speaker 6: have with me right now, the super tall Liquid Death
Speaker 6: in the tiny tiny diet Doctor Pepper.
Speaker 2: Both very solid choices.
Speaker 4: Love them both.
Speaker 2: What is significan like better than the other, that's for
Speaker 2: you to decide at home. But Mike, you're such an
Speaker 2: outlaw with your beverage choices and double fisting beverages. But
Speaker 2: also speaking about outlaws, you can talk about Star Wars outlaws, Yes,
Speaker 2: yes I can.
Speaker 6: The embargo for the preview event went up as we
Speaker 6: went live, and this you know disclaimer. Rubisoft set me
Speaker 6: out to uh the Anaheim area to to check this
Speaker 6: game out.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 6: This is the Ubisoft open world Scoundrel game made by Massive.
Speaker 6: The people who did the Division titles got to play
Speaker 6: like five ish hours or so most of it in
Speaker 6: this one planet that's kind of a new planet here.
Speaker 6: The planet itself is really neat because you know, we
Speaker 6: have like here's the forest planets and the desert planets,
Speaker 6: and you know, the ice planets. This was a Savannah
Speaker 6: biome was what they're doing here, which is just a
Speaker 6: little different. So I really liked the i of this place.
Speaker 6: And then you know, once you get to like the
Speaker 6: city very familiar Star Wars trappings, they're still like everything
Speaker 6: looks really lived in, kind of rustic. You have canteenas
Speaker 6: and shops and and all of that stuff. So but
Speaker 6: you know, I just liked the vibe of this location
Speaker 6: a lot. I think one of my biggest There's a
Speaker 6: lot of people too like, oh, open world Ubisoft game.
Speaker 6: How many towers am I climbing up? How much map
Speaker 6: barf is there going to be? At least when I played,
Speaker 6: that wasn't the loop at all. It kept a bit
Speaker 6: more traditional talking people get missions, go do missions. I
Speaker 6: didn't do a lot of kind of just open world
Speaker 6: exploring out in the wider kind of open areas. Although
Speaker 6: you do get that speeder bike when you're doing that,
Speaker 6: so that's fun, and I you know, I'm so uh,
Speaker 6: I'm so uh sent INTIL sixty four game. Uh so
Speaker 6: Shadow the Empire coded that I love having a speeder bike, right,
Speaker 6: I want to play. During an interview, I tried to
Speaker 6: like ask them if they I try to ask them
Speaker 6: about Shows of the Empire, and they kind of looked
Speaker 6: at me like out there, it's like clearly you were
Speaker 6: inspired by that, right, They're like no. I was like, well, yeah,
Speaker 6: because you're like a scoundrel. Get that was a major
Speaker 6: scoundrel game before and they're like that was so long ago.
Speaker 6: But yeah, you know, a lot of my dumble was
Speaker 6: kind of in this more like city area and that's
Speaker 6: where you're talking to people kind of navigating the the.
Speaker 5: Star Wars underworld.
Speaker 6: It's very factiony, like there's these different criminal factions and
Speaker 6: you have standings with them.
Speaker 5: It's not just like some meter that you feel though,
Speaker 5: and it's always gonna go up. Like you do a mission.
Speaker 6: It's like, oh, can we pin the crime on the
Speaker 6: huts or on the syndicate, and then the one's gonna
Speaker 6: like you more, the one's gonna like you less.
Speaker 5: If if people like you more, you might get some
Speaker 5: discounts on their shops.
Speaker 6: You're able to just straight up go into their fortresses
Speaker 6: or their hideouts instead of having to sneak in to them.
Speaker 6: That people don't like you, then yeah, it's hard to
Speaker 6: get access, and maybe eventually they'll even send bounty hunters
Speaker 6: out for you.
Speaker 2: That kind of thing.
Speaker 3: Just real quick that a lot of people were like,
Speaker 3: like not sure about the visuals and all this other stuff,
Speaker 3: Like when you're playing the game, how did it feel
Speaker 3: to you in terms of like, oh, does it look
Speaker 3: like a big budget game? Does it look good? Does
Speaker 3: it play well all that?
Speaker 6: I think it looks good in terms of like I
Speaker 6: think the environment looks great, right, Like it looks very
Speaker 6: Star Wars. It feels very Star warsy and was kind
Speaker 6: of like, you know, zoomed.
Speaker 2: Out of thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people were like, it looks so empty, and then
Speaker 3: they were talking about a tattooing desert screenshot.
Speaker 6: And it's like, yeah, that's stupid. Like the city area
Speaker 6: was very dense, lots of stuff. I think, like character
Speaker 6: models generally look good, but things like facial animation at
Speaker 6: least you know what I was playing. I mean, you know,
Speaker 6: I want to say yeah, early Bill, but also it
Speaker 6: keeps coming out August thirty if I don't know quite
Speaker 6: how much as changing, but it's not like the greatest
Speaker 6: that stuff has ever looked in terms of you know,
Speaker 6: like the quality of faces and the animation and things
Speaker 6: like that. The game plays interesting because at least again
Speaker 6: from what I was playing in this demo, this lengthy demo,
Speaker 6: more than anything I was doing stealth like that was
Speaker 6: kind of the primary thing. Here is a lot of Hey,
Speaker 6: you need to go to this place, and you know
Speaker 6: it's like, okay, I'm gonna watch these feels patrols and
Speaker 6: take them out quietly. You know, you could do that
Speaker 6: by the good old fashioned memorize their routes and kind
Speaker 6: of pick your spots and just go behind them, maybe
Speaker 6: take a couple of them out. You have that little
Speaker 6: alien pet guy Nicks, right, you could do things like
Speaker 6: have him go out to take a person out, or
Speaker 6: have him go out just to distract people. You can
Speaker 6: also go out and push buttons and whatnot, so you
Speaker 6: know there's that mechanic that kind of spices up a bit.
Speaker 6: But then you know, sometimes if things go wrong, you
Speaker 6: can still just use your blaster and you know, start
Speaker 6: blasting and use that to get out situations. And there
Speaker 6: are also times where it is just straight up like, no,
Speaker 6: you're just going to shoot the people here no matter what.
Speaker 2: So from what I've gathered, like no parkour, no bails
Speaker 2: of hal Hay anywhere.
Speaker 3: No, none of that.
Speaker 6: In fact, you know, like the jumping and whatnot is
Speaker 6: again it's not a major part of this game, but
Speaker 6: that never really feels super great baths and it can
Speaker 6: be a bit of that thing. And I even had
Speaker 6: this in the Jedi games right where it's like, what
Speaker 6: what parts of these this rock am I actually allowed
Speaker 6: to climb up over or not a lot of times
Speaker 6: it feels you're kind of cheesing things that maybe get
Speaker 6: up places you're not supposed to be and it's like,
Speaker 6: I'm not sure what the critical path is.
Speaker 2: That kind of stuff not a big problem.
Speaker 6: There was like a little bit of a jack of
Speaker 6: all trades maybe master nothing that I worry about because
Speaker 6: you know, it's a lot of this stealth stuff. Now,
Speaker 6: does that stealth stuff ever feel as good as saying
Speaker 6: a hit Man? No, of course it does it because
Speaker 6: this game has a million other things going on while
Speaker 6: Hitman is just doing that. But I think just the
Speaker 6: breath of it all maybe mix up for a bit.
Speaker 6: There's also spaceship stuff. Yeah, that was pretty fun. I
Speaker 6: feel it actually felt pretty pretty good. You know, it's
Speaker 6: fun because you do like take off from a planet,
Speaker 6: you go into space. It's not quite the nomn sky thing.
Speaker 6: There's the obvious you're going through the clouds to kind
Speaker 6: of do the transition, but it feels really good and
Speaker 6: flying around in space felt nice.
Speaker 2: When you get into battles, it's that thing.
Speaker 6: Where they kind of have like a little like circle
Speaker 6: where it shows you where you should aim, so your
Speaker 6: shots do kind of track and hit them.
Speaker 2: So so that was fun.
Speaker 5: It was like, oh, you need to go land on
Speaker 5: this Imperial station. You gotta go do a mission in there.
Speaker 6: So just the idea of like, okay, this one mission
Speaker 6: is going to me take off from the planet like
Speaker 6: in orbit, go to the station, do something in there,
Speaker 6: and then go back to the planet.
Speaker 5: That feelt cool. That made sort of the game world
Speaker 5: feel pretty big, right cool?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that does. That sounds pretty promising, Like so it
Speaker 3: does feel like she is existing in this world and
Speaker 3: it's a living, breathing world to a certain extent, or
Speaker 3: does it just kind of still feel very like, oh,
Speaker 3: you are going to be in this patch of events
Speaker 3: that we set up for you, and that's kind of
Speaker 3: like range.
Speaker 6: It's a little hard to say somewhere in between there,
Speaker 6: like again, this doesn't again it's not hit Man or something, right, sure,
Speaker 6: right like that, but you know, just being able to
Speaker 6: walk around there are interesting things happening, Like Subbach is a.
Speaker 2: Minigame, right and I we haven't had that before.
Speaker 3: That's awesome.
Speaker 6: I probably spent too much time playing Subbach if people
Speaker 6: don't know. Maybe like Star Wars Blackjack, basically yep, and.
Speaker 3: You get an idiot's or raye, do you ever get one?
Speaker 6: But oh no, So like this is a variation of
Speaker 6: sub Box, so there's some sort of different rules and whatnot,
Speaker 6: but I did at some point learn them. But it's
Speaker 6: fun because it's like the Red Dead Redemption thing, where
Speaker 6: it's just like there's people playing his card game. You
Speaker 6: can kind of go in there and play, and they
Speaker 6: do some kind of in character things there too, where
Speaker 6: you can send nicks out to look at an opponent's
Speaker 6: hand and try to cheat for you or maybe they'll
Speaker 6: catch you cool and you'll get mad or so. There's
Speaker 6: also like horse races but with you know, Star Wars
Speaker 6: alien horses and people are around a table and like
Speaker 6: holograms of them, you see, so you know, you could
Speaker 6: just like randomly bet on them. But at one point,
Speaker 6: while I was in like some like the Pike Syndicates
Speaker 6: headquarters or something, I found a data Pado was like,
Speaker 6: and the next race is only gonna be one male
Speaker 6: bet on him. I was like, oh, so like next
Speaker 6: time I was able to, I went to the race
Speaker 6: thing and I just you know, did the max bet
Speaker 6: on the mail and it won. I was like, oh,
Speaker 6: this is a real crooked world, but I can use
Speaker 6: that to my advantage sometimes that's neat. So that was
Speaker 6: something that's kind of really neat. I really it's like
Speaker 6: a little emergent thing that I thought was fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, we'll find a question, Mike, do you think
Speaker 3: I'm gonna like it?
Speaker 2: It's hard to tell, Jeff because follow up question Mike.
Speaker 2: Question Mike, do you think I'll like it?
Speaker 4: Also, Mike, I am curious if I will enjoy this game?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Interesting.
Speaker 6: It's gonna be dance game of the year. Okay, Jeff
Speaker 6: grub is going to compare it to Episode nine very unfavorably.
Speaker 2: Okay, and.
Speaker 3: That's gonna be rough.
Speaker 5: That's gonna go into it Heresion.
Speaker 2: Don't know, Mike.
Speaker 4: He said, it's gonna be my game of the year.
Speaker 4: Is this game? Yes?
Speaker 7: Or no?
Speaker 4: Better than Balatro?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 6: Not no, he said, no, I'm joking. It's it's it
Speaker 6: is hard to say, because again it is. It does
Speaker 6: have a bid assssin cree thing a little bit where
Speaker 6: it's like I'm doing a lot of things and there's
Speaker 6: you know, all of like story stuff. Do I care
Speaker 6: maybe a little bit, Maybe I'd care more if I
Speaker 6: saw this story from the beginning. It was early on
Speaker 6: that I was playing right, but I clearly missed an intro,
Speaker 6: and there were several characters that weren't a part of
Speaker 6: it yet, like that big clone droid person in the
Speaker 6: trench coade that we've seen a lot of promotional materials.
Speaker 6: I wasn't really hanging around with that person the whole time.
Speaker 6: Like there's kind of a second demo where I was
Speaker 6: in that snow planet from episode nine, which I had
Speaker 6: to be reminded was from episode nine, and he was
Speaker 6: hanging around there a little bit, but most of my
Speaker 6: demo was in this Savannah planet. Hey as hard a second,
Speaker 6: It's like all these things are promising, like the way
Speaker 6: you play these factions against each other, how's that really
Speaker 6: play out? And one thing I didn't do a lot
Speaker 6: of in my demo is just explore that more open
Speaker 6: world area. I'm not sure exactly how like how much
Speaker 6: there is to do there, how much events just kind
Speaker 6: of emerged there right in the progression. And it's not
Speaker 6: just like XP and skill trees, which I like a
Speaker 6: million games do that. You kind of have these experts
Speaker 6: and you talk to them and then they give you missions,
Speaker 6: and sometimes the missions are like, you know, do this
Speaker 6: thing ten times, and then you kind of unlock a
Speaker 6: new ability for your speeder, for your your stuff and
Speaker 6: things like that. I didn't really get to explore all
Speaker 6: a ton of that, but that could be interesting. There's
Speaker 6: a lot of factors here, right, Like the story does
Speaker 6: need to come together, you do need to kind of
Speaker 6: feel this connection with k the main character. I think
Speaker 6: it's doing a good amount of things right. You know,
Speaker 6: I'm an old fuddy duddy, so the fact that it
Speaker 6: is taking place during the original trilogy is kind of
Speaker 6: important for me.
Speaker 2: So I'm glad that's happening.
Speaker 4: You talking about the factions now, I'm talking about GTA two.
Speaker 4: Remember I had the like Yakiza and the Loonies and
Speaker 4: and you had the meters and like the vat are
Speaker 4: going to fucking kill you, but Thelonies love you and
Speaker 4: you can play them off each other and stuff, and
Speaker 4: that was funy.
Speaker 5: No, my experience with GTA pre GTA three is rather limited.
Speaker 4: I have to admit I had a fart butt, so
Speaker 4: I was pretty into it from the beginning.
Speaker 6: When did they get they didn't have the fart button
Speaker 6: the future ones though, so those are so you have
Speaker 6: a top down game. This game does not have a
Speaker 6: fart button either, So yeah, that any fart in space.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, well we'll go space space. Not like I'm saying,
Speaker 4: floating around in space could be fart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, could you would?
Speaker 3: I think you wouldn't. I don't think you wouldn't not fart.
Speaker 3: I think you could only fart into just because you
Speaker 3: have pressure inside you and there's no pressure outside you,
Speaker 3: So things would be shooting out of any hole in
Speaker 3: your body.
Speaker 4: And I'm not being I'm saying, you have the helmet
Speaker 4: on so you can breathe. It's just your ass is
Speaker 4: exposed to the.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, wait, so you're in a space.
Speaker 4: You're in a space with like the pajamas with the
Speaker 4: flap on the back.
Speaker 3: There would be nothing. Okay. So just you're just saying
Speaker 3: your butt like doesn't freeze and all that stuff.
Speaker 4: I'm asking the question, what happens if your butt is
Speaker 4: exposed and it's the only exposed part in space everything.
Speaker 3: Else, it'll basically freeze instantly. Yeah, you die if flow
Speaker 3: through flow through there like you have like some of
Speaker 3: your most major arteries got Damn, you're like free in space.
Speaker 3: I can't believe I have children. How do I explain
Speaker 3: this to them? Science?
Speaker 2: Well, we're going to go figure out how Grub has
Speaker 2: to go explain space and butt space to the gimmicks
Speaker 2: during this quick Brookie break, and we'll be back with
Speaker 2: the news right after this news Jeff Grub. But before
Speaker 2: we get to the news, I have a miscellatest question
Speaker 2: of another thing I'm going to blindly want to get into.
Speaker 2: Should I pick up the bass guitar anyway, grub watch
Speaker 2: Star Trek. Well, yes, Star Trek. I'm sad that my pyramount.
Speaker 3: Say you can't pay for that. You got to just
Speaker 3: get the hand of you. Of course I feel the same.
Speaker 2: War Now I might just go to a thrift store
Speaker 2: and get all those DVDs somewhere there.
Speaker 3: You go, All right, let's go here. There was a
Speaker 3: really quick breaking story a well to hit this one
Speaker 3: first from Relic Entertainment on Twitter. They say they have
Speaker 3: an important update. We have an important announcement from for
Speaker 3: our players and fans. With an external investor, Relic and
Speaker 3: Entertainment will become an independently run development studio. This is
Speaker 3: a huge change for us, but one thing that does
Speaker 3: not change. We want to create amazing experiences for our
Speaker 3: players to our fans. We want to assure you we
Speaker 3: will continue to support our titles, including Company of Heroes three.
Speaker 3: We are looking forward to the one point six update
Speaker 3: in April, loaded with new content and features requested by
Speaker 3: our community. We want to thank Sega, whose support over
Speaker 3: the years and guidance during the transition have been instrumental
Speaker 3: to our success. We may be out of Sega business
Speaker 3: Sega's business, but we've remain friends and colleagues. We are
Speaker 3: excited about this next chapter for Relic, and we hope
Speaker 3: you all will join us in creating new experiences for
Speaker 3: our fans worldwide. Yeah, this is kind of a maybe
Speaker 3: the happiest ending you can hope for from Relic. Relic
Speaker 3: was one of those studios over at Sega that put
Speaker 3: out a game it underperformed. Sega was kind of overreacting
Speaker 3: a little bit, or reacting maybe app probably based on
Speaker 3: their financials. I don't know. They laid a lot of
Speaker 3: people off, like two hundred and forty people or something
Speaker 3: like that last year, and so Relic being able to
Speaker 3: escape out of that is good. That happened with Creative
Speaker 3: Assembly as well. Right, was Creative Assembly the one that
Speaker 3: left Sega trying to remember?
Speaker 5: Yeah, isn't this announcement from March twenty eighth.
Speaker 3: Is this Oh yes, this march Okay. Someone put this
Speaker 3: in chat and I'm like, what is this? Let me
Speaker 3: double check here. Okay, got this email from Sega. Yeah,
Speaker 3: twenty nine minutes ago. Yeah, Relic Entertainment is now Okay,
Speaker 3: so it's fully gone through, is basically what they're saying. Okay, yes,
Speaker 3: so it's yes, that was Sega is now confirmed that
Speaker 3: they are fully independent. All that stuff has been shifted
Speaker 3: over to Relic yes, and previously opted in. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: that makes sense. All right, let's get back to the
Speaker 3: news I actually wrote down here. The World of Warcraft
Speaker 3: development team has voted to unionize. Blizzard's World of Warcraft
Speaker 3: development team has voted to unionized, becoming the first Wallda
Speaker 3: Wall union at Activision Blizzard and the largest at a
Speaker 3: Microsoft owned studio. If you're wondering, hey, Walla Wall, didn't
Speaker 3: Bethesta just do that? I think that's just Bethesta inside
Speaker 3: of Zinnimax, So that wouldn't count as like fully Wallda
Speaker 3: Wall or something.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure Activision Blizzard is what this is.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's right. The Activision Blitzer different than Yes, Bethesa, Right,
Speaker 3: they're all under Microsoft now, but Microsoft is telling all
Speaker 3: of these companies that are underneath them to recognize these
Speaker 3: This one did get recognized, and that includes five hundred
Speaker 3: team members that have now joined the Communication Workers of
Speaker 3: America and Blizzard Entertainment under Microsoft has recognized the union. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it feels like this is like really like taking on
Speaker 3: a life of its own, and a lot of these
Speaker 3: people at these studios are like, now is the time
Speaker 3: to strike? When not literally strike, Now's the time to
Speaker 3: get these unions up and at them now. I say
Speaker 3: that apparently this was in the works for like three years.
Speaker 3: The people at Blizzard had been trying to make this
Speaker 3: happen for a very long time. But it shows that like, hey, yeah,
Speaker 3: plant the tree twenty years ago and now here it
Speaker 3: is ready to go. You guys, do you guys expect
Speaker 3: more studios to unionize before the end of the year.
Speaker 2: I mean, this one happened like the day after that.
Speaker 6: Bethesda one did so for a while, but there's like, oh,
Speaker 6: it's a big, big wave, and you know, maybe calm
Speaker 6: down a little bit from that. But I absolutely expect more,
Speaker 6: especially inside of Xbox. They're kind of in a good
Speaker 6: position because Xbox had to say, during you know, all
Speaker 6: those hearings and everything that or I forget why they
Speaker 6: said it, but it was part of them trying to
Speaker 6: make this Activision Blizzard deal happen. It was like in
Speaker 6: their communications to the FTC and stuff that they were like,
Speaker 6: we will recognize unions that form, so they kind of
Speaker 6: you know, do have to. They can't put up maybe
Speaker 6: the fight that some other people would here. So it
Speaker 6: makes sense that we're seeing this happen in the Xbox
Speaker 6: space kind of first and foremost here, So I imagine
Speaker 6: we're definitely going to see more of this happening with
Speaker 6: other Xbox studios and eventually maybe not quite as quickly
Speaker 6: outside of the Xbox ecosystem as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just shows that it's possible, Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: And just seeing that happen at a big studios probably
Speaker 2: got to be inspiring for folks that other places to
Speaker 2: try and get that momentum going wherever they're at as well.
Speaker 2: Especially also if you're another studio in Microsoft, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: let's what do we got to talk to here, guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's the kind of thing where, like like
Speaker 3: you said, Activision Blister was definitely like pushing very hard
Speaker 3: against this sort of thing, and then Microsoft comes in
Speaker 3: and changes that. I wonder though, It's like a lot
Speaker 3: of other companies aren't as bad as Activisions, So I'd
Speaker 3: like to think a lot of these other studios will
Speaker 3: look around and be like, hey, maybe there's a chance
Speaker 3: we can make this happen. And what does this do
Speaker 3: for people working at the studios. It's the kind of
Speaker 3: thing where now they can demand transparency into how much
Speaker 3: people are getting paid, so people working at these studios
Speaker 3: can say, hey, I know how much you pay everyone else,
Speaker 3: You've got to pay me that as well. That sort
Speaker 3: of thing. There will be maybe some more protections in
Speaker 3: the events of layoffs. It's not going to going to
Speaker 3: eliminate layoffs. It's not going to eliminate all of the
Speaker 3: volatility and video games, but it is it does give
Speaker 3: a little bit more power to the people actually making
Speaker 3: the games, speaking to people looking for a little bit
Speaker 3: more power in making the games. Sag Aftra has called
Speaker 3: for a strike against major video game companies. After nearly
Speaker 3: two years of contract talks, sag Aftra has declared a
Speaker 3: strike against major video game companies starting on July twenty sixth,
Speaker 3: Yes after two years of unsuccessful contract negotiations. The strike
Speaker 3: involves ten companies, including Activision, Disney, Electronic Arts, and Epic Games.
Speaker 3: The union is concerned about the use of artificial intelligence
Speaker 3: to the detriment of its members and demands fair compensation
Speaker 3: and informed consent for the AI use of their performances. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the kind of thing where they've been working with
Speaker 3: these companies for a long time. The companies like, maybe,
Speaker 3: but we're going to see what we can do with
Speaker 3: this stuff. That sort of thing, and voice actors do
Speaker 3: still feel like the most vulnerable because it's the kind
Speaker 3: of thing where you can do a whole performance and
Speaker 3: then I remember, like almost ten years ago now, Adobe
Speaker 3: did a perform a demonstration of hey, and you have
Speaker 3: this long audio file. Just edit the text and audio
Speaker 3: file and it will make it sound like the person
Speaker 3: said that thing. And it's like, oh, okay, Well that
Speaker 3: it would be unauthorized use of the performer's performance. So
Speaker 3: they want to have some control over that, and that
Speaker 3: is their life blood, so why wouldn't they want that,
Speaker 3: But that technology is well already here, and then the
Speaker 3: technology to completely replace the performance is like we're on
Speaker 3: the precipice of that. Again, AI has a lot of
Speaker 3: shakiness to it. Yeah, but this stuff seems to mostly
Speaker 3: work enough for these companies, or work enough. I suppose
Speaker 3: it's the right way.
Speaker 6: Even if it doesn't work and it's bad, they'll do
Speaker 6: it anyways. I had the AI Luke Skywalker voice in
Speaker 6: the Book of Boba Feed or whatever that was. I
Speaker 6: think that was I think maybe not a permanent checkout,
Speaker 6: but I sure think that set me back quite a
Speaker 6: bit on caring about Star Wars. Yes, just hearing that
Speaker 6: motionless cg Luke Skywalker talking to a showcut and things
Speaker 6: I like.
Speaker 2: On top of that, I do it here like the
Speaker 2: announcers in the finals, and I really enjoyed that game,
Speaker 2: but like the AI announcers was always always take me
Speaker 2: out because there was so much like awkward pausing when
Speaker 2: like they're trying to play it up as like dynamic commentators,
Speaker 2: when it's like and then the stole the trash.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just weird. Had that's still bad, Yeah, because
Speaker 3: like NBA two K figured out a long time ago
Speaker 3: with real people and it's been working well for a
Speaker 3: long time. So have the AI not be able to
Speaker 3: do that well? Is like, wait, what's going on here?
Speaker 3: Why can't you figure that out? And you know, even
Speaker 3: Nintendo used AI voice for Endless Ocean that game right there,
Speaker 3: but that was probably like an old software voice like
Speaker 3: you would get on Mac or something like that. So
Speaker 3: there's all The point is, there's a lot of tools
Speaker 3: that could be displacing jobs for people that are doing performances.
Speaker 3: These actors are trying to stand in the way and
Speaker 3: get some rights to protect themselves in these instances, and
Speaker 3: this will set up precedent likely for the rest of
Speaker 3: the industry and how AI contracts are and what they
Speaker 3: look like for actors in film and on TV and
Speaker 3: all that stuff going forward, because that will be what
Speaker 3: happens next, you know.
Speaker 6: So it depressed me a bit that the hope here
Speaker 6: is to make sure that they just get paid when
Speaker 6: their voices are stolen and like get you know, roboticized,
Speaker 6: and not to end it. I guess there's no stopping
Speaker 6: that train, but it's just I don't know. It just
Speaker 6: feels like quality is going to go down, because of
Speaker 6: course it will, because of course you're going to lose
Speaker 6: that human touch totally and the artistry of it, right,
Speaker 6: and the passion, all these other things. I just I
Speaker 6: know this stuff's going to be part of the future. God,
Speaker 6: I hope it's not that much a part of the future.
Speaker 6: Fucking well, AI voice work.
Speaker 3: The good news is is that there's been a lot
Speaker 3: of like investors waking up and going, hey, why isn't
Speaker 3: this I gave you a billion dollars and you've made
Speaker 3: negative a billion since I did that. What is going
Speaker 3: Why isn't making any money? And everyone in AI is like,
Speaker 3: hah ha, well, what if you gave me more money,
Speaker 3: because then we could do the next thing we need
Speaker 3: to do. So that's not that's like falling apart actively
Speaker 3: as we're talking, so.
Speaker 5: Weird because it worked versus event of T's and it
Speaker 5: worked with the metaphorse and now this is the new
Speaker 5: buzz words.
Speaker 3: One that works, Mike, so of course it'll come together.
Speaker 5: You can't wait to see what's next.
Speaker 2: Is the Internet of things? Let's bring it back.
Speaker 4: I watched Yeah, we broke two of you.
Speaker 3: The Internet of things is more powerful than humans. We've
Speaker 3: confirmed this.
Speaker 2: Yes, I watched a movie yesterday and there was like
Speaker 2: two ads for Google's AI thing, and then I'm just
Speaker 2: wondering what the general populace like their feelings on well,
Speaker 2: we know.
Speaker 3: What the general popus feels like because there was just
Speaker 3: a study done by upwork, which usually is like what's
Speaker 3: up working rules? Uh, what's up work with you man?
Speaker 3: And they're like, okay, hey, it's been two years. You've
Speaker 3: your bosses have brought you had said, hey, you need
Speaker 3: to use this AI stuff to improve your productivity. How
Speaker 3: do you feel about it? Does like do you feel
Speaker 3: like you've improved your productivity? And everyone's like no, it
Speaker 3: actually has made it worse. And the person like writing
Speaker 3: about it. It's like usually two years after new technology
Speaker 3: is introduced, people are like, I don't notice it anymore.
Speaker 3: It's whatever. It's They have like neutral feelings about the
Speaker 3: new technology. In this case, this would be like a
Speaker 3: massive negative sentiment against AI in the workplace for regular
Speaker 3: people is like this really outstate, Like this is weird.
Speaker 3: It should not be that way.
Speaker 6: Well, because it's being like forced, like like forced on us,
Speaker 6: so like we all are forced to have opinions on it,
Speaker 6: Like Google's like are the AI things the first thing
Speaker 6: you see? It's often bad, Like we can see it's
Speaker 6: back I started Spotify. It's like this is your AI
Speaker 6: d jam what about does this and it sucks and
Speaker 6: it's like it's so obviously sucks.
Speaker 5: So yeah, like they're doing a great job of lowering
Speaker 5: the sentiment.
Speaker 4: I guess the McDonald's drive through in Shawnee, Kansas was
Speaker 4: AI powered and we ordered from it a couple of
Speaker 4: times and it was absolutely terrible and everyone hated it.
Speaker 4: And so now it's it's a shoot person back in Shawnny, Kansas. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so that we been at the Wendy's near me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, My McDonald's is like, hey, go ahead, go ahead
Speaker 3: with your order, and I'm always like, I say nothing
Speaker 3: because I know I'm gonna wait for the human to
Speaker 3: be like, actually I need a second, and they always
Speaker 3: come like ten seconds later. Yeah, I know, man, take
Speaker 3: your time, no problem, I get it, Like, it's not
Speaker 3: your fault. It's like this. So yeah, that's I think
Speaker 3: everyone across the board is kind of seeing that the
Speaker 3: promises of productivity improvements are mostly a lie, and where
Speaker 3: and where it can improve productivity was obvious and it's
Speaker 3: already happened and that stuff is built in now. So yeah,
Speaker 3: AI it's got another uphill battle, just like NFTs dead
Speaker 3: and we'll probably fall back down in some ways, all right.
Speaker 3: Castle Crashers is getting new DLC sixteen years after its release.
Speaker 3: This is pretty wild. Castle Crashers, a belove side scroller
Speaker 3: game from two thousand and eight, is getting new DLC
Speaker 3: called Painter Boss Paradise. This DLC will introduce new players
Speaker 3: and a new player and weapon artwork for all official characters,
Speaker 3: and a new character paint Junior. It also had Steam
Speaker 3: Workshop functionality, allowing players to create and share their skins
Speaker 3: with excuse me, with the community. The DLC will be
Speaker 3: exclusive to Steam and does not have a price or
Speaker 3: firm relay state yet.
Speaker 4: This is so weird to me because you know, we
Speaker 4: were talking about like the Xbox three sixty stores shutting down,
Speaker 4: and we were talking about xbl A games and stuff
Speaker 4: like that, and Castle Crashers is probably like a mount
Speaker 4: rushmore like classic you know, early x b l A
Speaker 4: hit And so that's weird that closed down and then
Speaker 4: then there's new.
Speaker 3: Data complex this maybe.
Speaker 2: Yes, let's do that for this week. You know you
Speaker 2: three are gone this week, Okay, next week?
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is it's weird, and parties like, why would
Speaker 6: they do this unless, look, it's weird. We haven't had
Speaker 6: a Castle Crashers two already, right, all.
Speaker 3: These other things.
Speaker 6: Was the weird thing that it was about theater that
Speaker 6: came out and water and other things like That's kind
Speaker 6: of the weird thing with the Behemoth is like Castle Crashers,
Speaker 6: this giant, giant hit. Yeah, since then they thought other
Speaker 6: things that have seemed to do. Okay, I think there
Speaker 6: was a new alien hominid uh recently last year. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 6: like that, okay, going home in it. That was their
Speaker 6: first game. Yeah, it was a flash game first, right,
Speaker 6: so it makes total sense to go back to Castle Crashers.
Speaker 6: And it's kind of weird that they haven't, because that,
Speaker 6: at least to me, always seemed like their biggest hits. Oh.
Speaker 3: I think it was easily their biggest. I think it's
Speaker 3: one of the biggest xbl A games.
Speaker 2: Bring that to every single packs.
Speaker 6: Still, yeah, they still have that weird like circle banner
Speaker 6: thing hanging up there, spinning around.
Speaker 3: I love Castle Crashers. One of the first games I
Speaker 3: remember being able to fart in when the goats.
Speaker 5: The booger mane eracer from you is disgusting.
Speaker 4: That's true, You're right, I'm a hard button hipster. I
Speaker 4: go back to g T A two.
Speaker 3: So you know, okay y two?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I like Boogerman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, cast pressures is good, though, the Boogerman like appreciator.
Speaker 4: Everybody a Boogerman's C I B and an acrylic protector
Speaker 4: in the other room. I'm a Boogerman defender, that's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jesus, I forgot about that. Uh. Fabled developer Playground Games,
Speaker 3: has seemingly opened a third studio. Playground Games, the developer
Speaker 3: of a fable and like they did the Forts of Horizon, Games,
Speaker 3: now has three studios, all located in Leamington, SPA, UK.
Speaker 3: The company's LinkedIn page mentions three studios, while it's official
Speaker 3: website still refers to only two. The purpose in staffing
Speaker 3: details of the third studio are yet to be to close.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I guess it's interesting. Mostly the reason I
Speaker 3: include this story is some of these studios over at
Speaker 3: Microsoft are still growing in some ways, which is in
Speaker 3: contrast to them like laying people off or cutting studios
Speaker 3: like a Tango Game Works, which is the one they
Speaker 3: were going to invest in a little bit ago. So
Speaker 3: how are you guys feeling about Microsoft studios like these days?
Speaker 3: Because I always feels like, oh, they're one game away
Speaker 3: from getting closed down, but at the same time they
Speaker 3: are making bigger investments.
Speaker 2: Does this show faith in Fable? It just makes me
Speaker 2: fear for developers. Is like, despite a game like launching
Speaker 2: and hitting really well, just worry for them three four
Speaker 2: months down the line and what could happen, Like despite
Speaker 2: all this positive buzz with Microsoft after like the huge,
Speaker 2: huge round of layoffs a couple months ago, Like, I
Speaker 2: think it's kind of like tainted my view of the company.
Speaker 3: Right what they Yeah, they did say like someone chat
Speaker 3: Tchuktawski says, focus on high impact titles. I think Matt
Speaker 3: Booty wrote that in an email to employees at Microsoft,
Speaker 3: and uh, this would be a studio playground Games working
Speaker 3: on impact titles. Forts the Horizon is now like their
Speaker 3: big racing game that has continuously done really well, and
Speaker 3: of course Fable is supposed to be one of their
Speaker 3: big hits coming. So yeah, that that seems to be
Speaker 3: right in line with their new strategy.
Speaker 6: I think is this is this new studio, the Crimson
Speaker 6: Sky studio I've always wanted It's.
Speaker 3: Gotta be right. I mean, what other possible option could
Speaker 3: there be here?
Speaker 5: Blinks that Oh, Jan's got so blinks activated.
Speaker 2: I've never even played it. I just saw it at
Speaker 2: a Toys r us kiosk.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we just don't like the idea of bis.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I've tried to play, and I'm like, I like these
Speaker 3: VCR buttons. That's the best part about this game. Astrobot
Speaker 3: is getting a limited edition PS five Dual Sense controller
Speaker 3: and I just even hesitate to say this out loud
Speaker 3: because I want to be first in line for it.
Speaker 3: Maybe I do this new story later, actually, but I
Speaker 3: want it. Sony is releasing it. It's eighty dollars. It
Speaker 3: looks like castro It's got the it's got the painted
Speaker 3: eyes on the pad. I'm going to get one.
Speaker 2: I might like.
Speaker 3: Even if they were to send me one, I think
Speaker 3: I would still buy one, so I could have to like.
Speaker 3: I like it that much. The kids are also going
Speaker 3: crazy for it, so I'm gonna have to let them
Speaker 3: use it, which is a bad news for me.
Speaker 2: But yeah, how far do you think we are until,
Speaker 2: like Sony capitalizes off of the Astrobot hype, Like after
Speaker 2: this game releases, we get a movie.
Speaker 3: I mean, like an animated cartoon show. I think like
Speaker 3: a like a CGI cartoon based on Astro could be
Speaker 3: a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Like they don't have to give Astro a voice or anything, just.
Speaker 6: Like I think that's why cartoon sense I don't think
Speaker 6: they're going to be brave enough to make a voiceless cartoon.
Speaker 2: They're emote and stuff. Yes, I figured they would still
Speaker 2: show emotions somehow, I mean, like how uh the minions
Speaker 2: like aren't actually speaking a language?
Speaker 6: Was talk to there that people have Pixar in its prime.
Speaker 6: I love Wally, but then the second half of the movie.
Speaker 3: Doesn't talk.
Speaker 5: I love I'm a big Wally guy out there.
Speaker 3: You know this about me?
Speaker 6: You saw bo said I was with the Pixar Festival
Speaker 6: for Wally trying to hurt you. It's working from Demon
Speaker 6: Slayer Phantom. Will he already hurt me enough to speak?
Speaker 6: Geez problems, don't you like?
Speaker 2: I couldn't it's I couldn't sleep. I couldn't, guys.
Speaker 5: I was so depressed. It's a big problem.
Speaker 2: I couldn't.
Speaker 3: We clean out my fucking pantry. But yeah, you go
Speaker 3: over there, buddy.
Speaker 6: Because I found out the fate of a character from
Speaker 6: a show I don't want charle about.
Speaker 2: I was so sad.
Speaker 5: I good, it's sleep Oh my.
Speaker 2: God, don't spoiler.
Speaker 3: There's no help in that. Play On will publish on
Speaker 3: Charted directors Marvels nineteen forty three Rise of Hydra play
Speaker 3: On in Skydance Games have formed a worldwide publishing partnership
Speaker 3: for Marvel nineteen forty three Rise of Hydra. The game
Speaker 3: will start Drew Morland as Captain America and Carrie Payton
Speaker 3: as Black Panther, and a schedule for release in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five. Amy Hennig, the director of the first three
Speaker 3: on Charted Games, is leading the development team.
Speaker 6: Yes, you said this game, bess boardings, What do you
Speaker 6: mean this game didn't have a publisher already?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, isn't that?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: What does that mean to you guys when you hear
Speaker 3: that that this game coming out next year didn't have
Speaker 3: a publisher, Because it's like, maybe doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 6: I don't really know what I guess I would assume
Speaker 6: it maybe doesn't really mean anything. It sounds weird, but yeah,
Speaker 6: I guess sky Dance is just like, look, we have
Speaker 6: the money, we're gonna we're gonna get Amy Hennag, and
Speaker 6: you know it's Marvel, It's going to get a publisher.
Speaker 6: We're just gonna negotiate as much as we want to
Speaker 6: until we get as good a deal as possible for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe because maybe it's just about like a
Speaker 3: global production, right, like actually building discs or something like that.
Speaker 3: Because sky Dance isn't Skydance that company that was going
Speaker 3: to like merge with one of the other big global
Speaker 3: conglomerates recently. Like they probably do have a ton of money.
Speaker 4: They're the mission impossible company.
Speaker 3: They aren't mission impossible. Yes, they're a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 2: I guess what I was thinking when we were talking
Speaker 2: about this yesterday grub is it feels like they're running
Speaker 2: out of money if they haven't found a publisher a
Speaker 2: year ahead of time.
Speaker 3: Well, they merged with Paramount, and I think sky Dance
Speaker 3: was sort of like the dominant partner in that. That's
Speaker 3: what I was talking about.
Speaker 2: So it's like Skuyde dances a dumb.
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, Skydance. Sky Dance is the dommy mommy in
Speaker 3: that situation. I don't know it. To me, it's like, okay,
Speaker 3: the then what do you need a publisher for? But
Speaker 3: it probably is just like what we want this to
Speaker 3: be a with an organization that has sent discs to
Speaker 3: retailers in Germany before, and play On has definitely done that.
Speaker 6: Sure, I'm just excited for Amy Hennick to finally get
Speaker 6: to release a new game for the first time since
Speaker 6: what charted three three games?
Speaker 3: Right, she had many of her Star Wars games at
Speaker 3: EA were canceled, so that's what doing at that time. No,
Speaker 3: she was, she was yeah rogue, Yeah that.
Speaker 6: Yeahmember the name of it gang plank or something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, gangplank.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, she was not at Stadia. That's a different person
Speaker 3: that was. That was woundrels. Scoundrels getting women confused. Yeah, alright,
Speaker 3: let's see here. Removing skill based matchmaking needs to a
Speaker 3: drop in players and activation. Study suggests. First of all,
Speaker 3: do you guys, Have you guys ever heard the fervor
Speaker 3: against skill based matchmaking?
Speaker 6: Sure, it's mostly it's mostly from streamers who get mad
Speaker 6: that they can't look like they're better at games because
Speaker 6: eventually they have to play people as good as them,
Speaker 6: so they can't do they can't do fifteen head shots
Speaker 6: in a single game.
Speaker 2: Same, then they get mad.
Speaker 3: Right, they're like, what is everyone's sweaty in every match?
Speaker 3: That's uh, that's it's a competitive game. What are you
Speaker 3: talking about casual mode? That's the whole thing that's been
Speaker 3: my take this entire time, Mike. They were like, no,
Speaker 3: you just don't get it. You don't understand.
Speaker 6: I have no idea, Like what do you mean you
Speaker 6: should be batsh people who are about as good for you.
Speaker 6: It's like, now it's sweaty.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what do you what do you mean?
Speaker 6: Like, like, if you want to go play soccer, do
Speaker 6: you think the default should be that you play against
Speaker 6: the six year olds?
Speaker 5: I get how that could be fun.
Speaker 2: I guess clearly I feel bad after a while.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly right, and says no, he would not feel
Speaker 3: badam dun concor Yeah, anyway, Activisions secretly ran a study
Speaker 3: where they like turned it off and it was like
Speaker 3: kind of a b testing where some people would get
Speaker 3: skill based matchmaking and some people would get it turned off.
Speaker 3: And uh, what they saw is everyone hated it. When
Speaker 3: it was turned off. They would play, they played less,
Speaker 3: they were they they would quit matches more often. It
Speaker 3: was just across the board. Everyone kind of hated it.
Speaker 3: Now of course the people are like, well that's just
Speaker 3: the general audience, Like the high skilled players still want
Speaker 3: no skill based matchmaking. Again, I wonder I get it.
Speaker 3: It's fun to dunk on six year olds. It's not
Speaker 3: fun for the six year old.
Speaker 6: It's just like very important to the company, right Yeah.
Speaker 6: And also it's like, well you just did a study
Speaker 6: in science. I have my feelings about it. It's like, okay,
Speaker 6: well you better get on Twitter. Then yeah, they're just
Speaker 6: gonna go and complain about making sure that there aren't
Speaker 6: any women that might seduce him with the vicinity.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be no women in chat ever.
Speaker 3: Nope, then needs to protect marriage the most important thing.
Speaker 5: Everybody, what this is a smart thing because like because
Speaker 5: of all the rumors, Well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely ever heard of a platonic relationship?
Speaker 3: You dumb? Fuck You're dumb.
Speaker 5: No, you can't be friends with women because they might
Speaker 5: seduce you.
Speaker 3: Yep, terror what adweb that's the correct word. Like all right.
Speaker 3: Paris twenty twenty four is the first Summer Olympics in
Speaker 3: thirty years to not have a console video game.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: The Paris twenty twenty four Olympics will be the first
Speaker 3: time in over thirty years that they have not had
Speaker 3: a game with one company or another.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Last like the last Olympics in twenty twenty, the Summer Olympics.
Speaker 3: They had Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games and
Speaker 3: Olympic Games Tokyo twenty twenty, so they had two and
Speaker 3: they were both from Sega. Uh. Sega must have dropped
Speaker 3: it the deal though, because they didn't make one and
Speaker 3: no one stepped in. This is what I'm including because
Speaker 3: do you guys think this says anything wider about where
Speaker 3: games are at? Where it's like, you know, the Olympics.
Speaker 3: Olympics are happening every two years with like the winter
Speaker 3: in the summer, it's predictable. There's a huge marketing campaign
Speaker 3: for it, and yet there's no one like ready to
Speaker 3: step and be like we'll make a game based on
Speaker 3: that because it's getting too expensive or what. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: People just hate Paris. Maybe people hate Paris.
Speaker 6: They alsow how assessins cre Unity did and they're like,
Speaker 6: I don't know, yeah, uh, it's they all fucking hate
Speaker 6: the Rabbits.
Speaker 5: It's hard to say, because you know, a partly must
Speaker 5: be like it's a shame.
Speaker 2: We don't get Olympics games anymore.
Speaker 5: Really, Olympics games are never very.
Speaker 3: Not I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at grubbs list here that you got here,
Speaker 4: and you list a lot of Olympics games, but you
Speaker 4: don't have Izzy's quest for the Olympic Rings featuring the
Speaker 4: mascot for the nineteen ninety six Olympics.
Speaker 3: See I'm embarrassing. Definitely, Yeah, play any.
Speaker 2: More like that.
Speaker 6: It is funny, how like the one way we got
Speaker 6: it to happen was by making it Mario and Sonic right,
Speaker 6: a surprising amount of juice from that, And even then
Speaker 6: it was like people still don't fucking care about these
Speaker 6: bad Olympics mini games.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: I almost wish it's like, hey, take an Olympic sport
Speaker 6: and do that really well, which I guess is what
Speaker 6: we do get a lot of times, Like you know,
Speaker 6: we're not gonna get Olympic basketball, we just get basket.
Speaker 5: I kind of wan hockey.
Speaker 3: What I want is what they did, and I think
Speaker 3: it was the last one, excuse me, was eight bit
Speaker 3: just take all those games in eight versions, And they
Speaker 3: did that in that last one with all that stuff,
Speaker 3: and that was really cool. I saw there.
Speaker 4: I saw something on like The Verde or something yesterday
Speaker 4: about how there's a new Netflix game called Sports Sports
Speaker 4: and it seems to be an Olympics based like multiplayer
Speaker 4: phone Netflix. Like, I haven't tried it, but I haven't
Speaker 4: done any of the Netflix game things before, but I
Speaker 4: was like, should I try out it's like weird Olympics
Speaker 4: minigame thing.
Speaker 3: I'll try There's there's that one I did in Greg
Speaker 3: did that Pax Video Games Journalist Olympics thing, and one
Speaker 3: I think it was sports Matching, sports Matching or something
Speaker 3: like that. Yeah, and that's a good one. That was
Speaker 3: a there was a lot of fun like international track
Speaker 3: and field style games in there, and I had a
Speaker 3: good one with that. So yeah, I like those kinds
Speaker 3: of games. I'll check this out, Dan, I'll get on
Speaker 3: Netflix Games.
Speaker 2: And yeah, and then be the last and the leader
Speaker 2: boards like the New York Times.
Speaker 3: Look, I did not mean to throw you under the
Speaker 3: bus on that one, but I did be Lucy, so
Speaker 3: I had to share it.
Speaker 2: Is everyone throws me under the bus with this.
Speaker 4: You haven't done Today's yet, I have it.
Speaker 2: I haven't.
Speaker 6: What's that speaking competitions, Jeff, I know you smoked this
Speaker 6: on the Tender World Championship thing, but like, where did
Speaker 6: you rank on some of those yes, some really good scores.
Speaker 3: Well I got I got first in the world on
Speaker 3: the Metroid. It was your loser time, right, it was
Speaker 3: first in the world three six three grab three six three.
Speaker 2: I had to feel good though.
Speaker 3: That was cool. And then I got seventeenth on the
Speaker 3: Mario one coins. Yeah, the coins because I couldn't get
Speaker 3: that last tenth of a second.
Speaker 6: So I thought it was I thought it was really funny.
Speaker 6: One of the challenges this week is just the beat
Speaker 6: Mario one thing, which last time I was like, we're
Speaker 6: not doing that. I just wanted to do the weekly challenges.
Speaker 6: It's like they hurt us.
Speaker 3: Yep, exactly. I h the part of me is like
Speaker 3: amazed that there is a game Nintendo made where it's
Speaker 3: just like, hey, speed run all of Super Mario Brothers
Speaker 3: one that rules and it's such a cool thing.
Speaker 4: So I haven't finished that one yet because I'll just
Speaker 4: do something stupid and I'll restart even if I'm the
Speaker 4: two levels in. It's like, I just need to get
Speaker 4: at least one time on the board first.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I got like by one time. It was like
Speaker 6: I got a b puzz or something. It's not great,
Speaker 6: and I'm like, there's a time at least it is
Speaker 6: like I just beat Mario one. That's not something I've
Speaker 6: done really a whole lot in my life, like a
Speaker 6: couple of times. I guess motivated me just beat that game.
Speaker 3: Also, you guys are wrong. I have found out how
Speaker 3: to play excite like and I think that game is
Speaker 3: pretty fun. It's not. It gets better later on in
Speaker 3: the serial with Excite Bike.
Speaker 6: I'm curious because I like, don't really like that's one
Speaker 6: of the weaky challenges.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I feel like I'm doing this best second.
Speaker 2: It's like, be like, what am I do you out
Speaker 2: of the gate?
Speaker 3: Do you go up to that you want to? So
Speaker 3: you want to be to accelerate out of the gate
Speaker 3: every time you play Excite Bike, Yes, A time it.
Speaker 2: Or do you just hold it? You want to hold
Speaker 2: hold it?
Speaker 3: Just hold it? You a buffer it and then you
Speaker 3: get a top speed. Actually never let go of be Instead,
Speaker 3: what you do is you tap a at the same
Speaker 3: time and that gas will overtake the turbo b So
Speaker 3: you're just feathering that and you want to feather that
Speaker 3: about five to seven times in that range. Really, what
Speaker 3: you want is you want the meter to be topping
Speaker 3: out on the turbometer on the on the heat meter,
Speaker 3: as soon as you go over the cooling, which will
Speaker 3: reset your cooling.
Speaker 6: And then as soon as as soon as you're about
Speaker 6: to hit the ramp, you want to lean into it, lean,
Speaker 6: and then you want to rap away from it.
Speaker 3: Lean into it, can crazy lean into it, yeah, because
Speaker 3: well that'll make your jump go faster because you'll do
Speaker 3: it goes up. Yeah, you know, you know if you
Speaker 3: go you know, if you lean back, you're gonna jump
Speaker 3: hop yeah, land yes, so and then and then as
Speaker 3: soon as you're about to hit the ground, tap back
Speaker 3: and then immediately tap forward, and then you'll bounce right
Speaker 3: into the finish line. And I've got like a I'm
Speaker 3: like a ten seconds point ten or something like that,
Speaker 3: like right behind the world record. Okay, okay, yeah, I
Speaker 3: got It's fun. It's like, oh, there's more going on
Speaker 3: in Excite Bike than I ever realized. I always knew
Speaker 3: about like if you land flat, you'll continue your speed
Speaker 3: or whatever, but there's a lot more to like getting
Speaker 3: air and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: I'm also enjoying the Kirby Challenge this week.
Speaker 4: Nope, it sucks. It's a bad speed run game. It's
Speaker 4: so fucking floating.
Speaker 3: You can't. It's so it is not literally floats you
Speaker 3: want don't want to character that's supposed to float to
Speaker 3: be floating.
Speaker 4: Air if you're trying to do something and sometimes you
Speaker 4: me and you have to fart it out before you
Speaker 4: can run or whatever.
Speaker 3: It's just it's the worst mechanics.
Speaker 2: But don't you swing a sword and speople.
Speaker 3: Shootout? Want to right? All right? Talk this week?
Speaker 2: All right, Kirby time, have you guys obsessed the times?
Speaker 2: It's a gimmick.
Speaker 3: Uh Rio Gokoku's boss says the end of the Like
Speaker 3: a Dragon episode one made him scream and take a
Speaker 3: cigarette break.
Speaker 5: I want to shout the hedgehog show up.
Speaker 2: Betty did Masa.
Speaker 3: Yoshi Yokoyama, head of Riyo Goatkatoko Studios, reacted strongly to
Speaker 3: the first episode of Amazon Prime Videos Live Action and
Speaker 3: Like a Dragon Yakuza series, I like how like None
Speaker 3: of this like confirms whether it's a good reaction, just
Speaker 3: a strong reaction, and he had to take a break.
Speaker 3: He was particularly impressed by a major surprise at the
Speaker 3: end of the episode. So I think I might watch this.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should all probably watch this. The thing that
Speaker 2: I mentioned yes or in game this morning's I wasn't
Speaker 2: sure if I could talk about. Turns out I can
Speaker 2: talk about. One of the lead actors had mentioned since
Speaker 2: Comarocho and like the denizens of Kamarocho was so important
Speaker 2: and integral to all of the Yakuza games. The director
Speaker 2: apparently auditioned all of the extras because he needed them
Speaker 2: to fulfill like specific weirdness and oddness about.
Speaker 3: Yeah. That's an attention to detail that I'm happy to
Speaker 3: hear him.
Speaker 2: It's like I need I not only need some buff
Speaker 2: looking dudes, but I need some weirdo's here.
Speaker 3: I need some slimy, weird buff dudes. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm tentatively still excited.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I'm gonna check this out. We'll see. The
Speaker 3: series will consist of six episodes, with the first three
Speaker 3: releasing October twenty fifth, and the final three releasing on
Speaker 3: November first, and again that's on Prime Video. It will
Speaker 3: be available in its original Japanese language with subtitles or
Speaker 3: with a dubbed voiceover.
Speaker 2: It's weird that they say, like you were modernizing Yakuza,
Speaker 2: but it's like jumping back and forth between being in
Speaker 2: ninety five and two thousand and five.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what that sentence means. Does that mean?
Speaker 6: I think it just means that they made, you know,
Speaker 6: a modern TV sho out of it. That's I think
Speaker 6: it's a long Yes, we've got one of those six
Speaker 6: episode long things that's really like one.
Speaker 3: Big movie show.
Speaker 2: Okay, al right, wow, it's real modern. All right, that
Speaker 2: does it for the News.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go do the mini and I'm gonna get
Speaker 3: a good time.
Speaker 2: I don't want to do the mini because I get
Speaker 2: too nervous whenever I fire it up. So instead, I've
Speaker 2: never do it on the keyboard, on the on the computer.
Speaker 2: I got my worst time when I did that.
Speaker 3: You should board against me.
Speaker 2: No, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 3: I've done it a couple times before I get my
Speaker 3: best times. I'd like that you could tab to the
Speaker 3: next answer. That's good for.
Speaker 2: Uh folks. We're gonna take a quick Ricky break and
Speaker 2: go ahead and go do the New York Times Mini. Well,
Speaker 2: we uh come back with emails after this. Emails emails
Speaker 2: many sucks. I don't think we should do it anymore.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I hate it. I did. I chose to
Speaker 2: not finish it out of press.
Speaker 3: I'm on Pusmo instead table salt chemical formula. Na. Yeah later.
Speaker 5: I guess we're doing nothing but talking about the thing
Speaker 5: for weeks. I never liked it.
Speaker 4: I did fifty five seconds, grubbed it a minute ten.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to finish it. I'm not gonna finish it.
Speaker 3: Was better the other day when I did better than
Speaker 3: you can finish the story.
Speaker 2: I thought I did really well yesterday because I was
Speaker 2: like three seconds behind Bailey when normally I'm five minutes
Speaker 2: behind baby.
Speaker 4: But you were seven seconds behind me yesterday. Dane, Well, Dan,
Speaker 4: all right, okay.
Speaker 2: You got bombcastigiant bomb dot com is the email dressed
Speaker 2: to send your emails to can say any and everything,
Speaker 2: whether it's fan castings about stuff, quandaries about things, suggestions
Speaker 2: you'd like to hear from us, Send him in BombCast
Speaker 2: gihn bomb dot com e mails. First email comes from
Speaker 2: Jeff from Connecticut, and Jeff writes about something very timely
Speaker 2: for us on the website. Hello, I've never played a
Speaker 2: Mario party game. I don't really care for random bullshit
Speaker 2: and Dan He'll attitude about the games always turned me
Speaker 2: away from trying the series that said, I just wanted
Speaker 2: to try one that had a very good variety of
Speaker 2: fun minigames? Which one should I start with? I have
Speaker 2: a weu we GBA DS, three DS and Switch thanks
Speaker 2: Jeff from.
Speaker 4: Connecticut Superstars on Switch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mario Party Superstars or like he just
Speaker 3: wants to try the fun minigames? Does Jeffer mconnectut want
Speaker 3: to play it with anyone else?
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, just playing the minigames is kind of
Speaker 4: weird with Mario Party. And also so just playing with
Speaker 4: yourself is weird with Mario Party.
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, that's not the position of giant bomb. We're
Speaker 3: not going to do shame playing with yourself? Yeah, beat
Speaker 3: it you can?
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yeah, I guess you could be Mario Party.
Speaker 5: Yeah, boney, I'm boney, leave me alone.
Speaker 2: And that's the callback. Everyone, We'll see what we heard.
Speaker 3: That's a good one. The Beast, the beast that beats
Speaker 3: all the in sixty four games. Mike does he just
Speaker 3: like do one? Does he just do like one round
Speaker 3: of Mario Party and considers it beaten? I forget what
Speaker 3: he usually kind of like tries to find like what
Speaker 3: what did you get? Credits?
Speaker 2: Or if that's not satisfied.
Speaker 3: He'll usually do more.
Speaker 2: I think he played every board at least.
Speaker 3: Okay, man, that's rough.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think he enjoyed playing it like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Superservice is already like a best of
Speaker 4: and it's you can even set it to be like,
Speaker 4: I just want to play the sixty four ones. I
Speaker 4: just want to play the GameCube ones. But like everything,
Speaker 4: even the later ones, like they pick interesting ones from
Speaker 4: the later ones. Yep, yep agree.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well there you go, Jeff from Connecticut. Go go
Speaker 2: beat it by yourself if you want, but beat it
Speaker 2: amongst friends if that's your prerogative. Just make sure you
Speaker 2: ask if it's cool. U.
Speaker 5: That's that's the next suptime. Are you a party circle?
Speaker 2: Jerk? Okay, Mike, all right, were.
Speaker 5: Okay, we get we can dance around it all funny.
Speaker 3: But Kyle was just expecting something more subtle. She just
Speaker 3: threw me off, that's all he just said. The thing
Speaker 3: he just said, coward is why maybe maybe I just
Speaker 3: have a little shame, like a little.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm like.
Speaker 2: All of these outburstal laughter.
Speaker 3: Every remind me if people should go watch that Superman
Speaker 3: sixty four super cut on YouTube now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to the editing team at Fandom for
Speaker 2: helping us out with that. Yeah, they did.
Speaker 3: They did a great job, like we I mean, they
Speaker 3: were like going in there like I give him pointers
Speaker 3: a bunch of like there's a couple of things. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: I wish I would have said this. Now I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: now I know for next time. They still did a
Speaker 3: really good job and people should go watch. Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: you wanted to do.
Speaker 2: Minds now, I was gonna should we ask to ask
Speaker 2: them to cut down mcquonchie.
Speaker 3: Even Mortal Kombat mythology some zeros seems like the next.
Speaker 4: Wedding, So yeah, I think so to thirty three minutes
Speaker 4: of highlights. Just look up Superman sixty four Giant Bomb
Speaker 4: and it's called It's worse than you thought. Uh yeah,
Speaker 4: it's some good stuff on there for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was laughing even though I watched all of
Speaker 2: those live.
Speaker 3: Same Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: Next email titled mikey Apples, which I still think is
Speaker 2: a good name. Mike It's terrible good is it?
Speaker 3: Disney?
Speaker 6: So that Apple icon in the tenor World Chimpionship. By
Speaker 6: the way, I'm a man of my words.
Speaker 2: By tomorrow, I get to replace ochect the tape. Is
Speaker 2: it Disney snow White that traumatized Mic over apples?
Speaker 3: I he's been asked as much time, so he doesn't
Speaker 3: think so, Yeah, this comes up.
Speaker 6: It came up again with Ben Hanson when we did
Speaker 6: the snow White right in Disneyland, and like I was
Speaker 6: vehemily like, no, I don't think so.
Speaker 5: And now I'm just kind of like sure, like there
Speaker 5: you go.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe it did.
Speaker 5: I don't know. Maybe I saw that movie at a
Speaker 5: young age and it's scared of apples.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is.
Speaker 3: You're the you're a cilantro guy right with the you
Speaker 3: got the soap? Okay, okay. I think it's all related
Speaker 3: to like stuff like that, where it's like just a
Speaker 3: genetic thing, the way these things taste to you.
Speaker 4: It's a way like some people have really smelly pea
Speaker 4: when they have asparagus. Is that everyone?
Speaker 3: It's not not everyone everyone, it's just lost in powers. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I feel like we don't think about that enough.
Speaker 6: How like things taste different to people obviously, Like the
Speaker 6: subjective nature of taste is never kind of brought up.
Speaker 5: We just sort of shame people for not liking like
Speaker 5: the right things.
Speaker 4: Not like we should people more right.
Speaker 3: It's like taste. There's like no accounting for it or something.
Speaker 3: I don't How do we feel about spice?
Speaker 2: Do we like spice? We against spicy?
Speaker 3: Judge it's a white guy. I think I like a
Speaker 3: good amount of spice. Yeah, I like.
Speaker 5: So we mean like like, we don't mean spices, we
Speaker 5: mean like literally hot.
Speaker 4: I don't post the picture again of your fucking ram
Speaker 4: in La.
Speaker 5: That was Yeah, that was a mistake.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 2: I think he does feel a little shame about that one.
Speaker 2: Trust me.
Speaker 6: The next time I got ram when you guys weren't there,
Speaker 6: I just got normal rama. Yeah, it's like what was
Speaker 6: I doing? Yeah, he's been officially shaved into doing better
Speaker 6: ramed Like, yeah, I like spicy. I can't do a
Speaker 6: lot of it because it's bad with the Crowns. So
Speaker 6: maybe this guy Rizzy will well, we'll rise that up someday.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't. I do not feel satisfied with the meal
Speaker 3: unless it has a little bit of spice. Do you
Speaker 3: need a little bit of ham Yeah, a little bit
Speaker 3: and like and like hot like not Italian spices even
Speaker 3: anymore where I'm like, hey, you guys want to get
Speaker 3: HELI in Mexican. I'm always Mexican.
Speaker 2: Please, Okay, how dare you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I forgot you're there?
Speaker 3: My bad, My bad.
Speaker 6: We have those like petrified dried chili flake things you
Speaker 6: can put on your food.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 6: Yeahs like where were petrified pepper?
Speaker 3: Where are we going to? Cleveland?
Speaker 6: There's a few places I've been craving for so long. Okay,
Speaker 6: bit of craving mables. We're gonna do that for barbecue.
Speaker 2: And there'll be something when you guys go to a
Speaker 2: place can and you take a picture, Can you leave
Speaker 2: a space for me to photoshop myself and afterwards? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Definitely, Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 5: We'll see how good my uh Tokyo disneylanda gift was.
Speaker 2: First, well, I will say tam Lucy and Emma enjoyed
Speaker 2: theirs immensely. Oh there you go, oh like a Tokyo
Speaker 2: Disney thing. Anyway, it's not.
Speaker 5: I'm kidding criticizing gifts you get.
Speaker 2: Yet I guess I got what I'm thinking. I don't
Speaker 2: trust myself to mail something, so I asked Emma to
Speaker 2: do it. Incredible, It's like but I don't know how
Speaker 2: the post office works.
Speaker 4: There is still an Armored Corps Special Edition floating around
Speaker 4: America somewhere.
Speaker 2: Dan, I might go to that ups to try and
Speaker 2: find it, Like maybe they never shipped it.
Speaker 4: There's just a mech floating around.
Speaker 3: Have Emma shipped my chainsaw? John Romero? That Lexigato? Oh?
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, yes, all right. Next May comes from Andre
Speaker 2: from Montreal. I just wanted to say Montreal like that,
Speaker 2: Hello Giant Bombers. Last episode, Jan suggested you all travel
Speaker 2: to Japan together if you need a gaming reason to
Speaker 2: be able to expense your travels. TGS would be an
Speaker 2: obvious reason to go. But if you're looking for something
Speaker 2: less obvious, might I suggest BitSummit the reason I would go. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's an indie game development festival in Kyoto and it
Speaker 2: happened just about two weeks ago. It's not so small
Speaker 2: a festival as industry luminaries such as shoe Heyushita and
Speaker 2: swear He gave talks this year. Oh that's cool as
Speaker 2: stalwarts of indie gaming. I'm a little surprised you haven't
Speaker 2: mentioned it yet or I might have missed something.
Speaker 3: However, we did mention like, oh, We'll go to the
Speaker 3: Toyon Game Show. Maybe bit Summit, but I'm always thinking
Speaker 3: about BitSummit.
Speaker 2: It might compete with another event you all would like
Speaker 2: to attend. This year's festival happened at the same weekend
Speaker 2: as EVO. Okay, anyway, your take on the vestal will
Speaker 2: be interesting.
Speaker 6: Here.
Speaker 2: Keep it the great work and take care. Andre from Montreal.
Speaker 6: That's aw Kyoto is also where that egg guy is
Speaker 6: are the the Omu rice? Yeah, they looks like.
Speaker 3: That is causing the dream to happen or was that
Speaker 3: links awakening?
Speaker 5: Never mind, It's also where I don't know, I hear
Speaker 5: I hear Kyoto.
Speaker 6: I have a bad reaction because when I had my
Speaker 6: phone call from Nintendo talking about how it was in Nintendo.
Speaker 4: You got we just got thrown in the hole.
Speaker 5: And I think I was specifically told is like Kyoto
Speaker 5: isn't happy.
Speaker 2: City. So like, I'm kind of worried.
Speaker 3: Care Kyoto isn't happy Right there.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get ruffed up and fiver go to Kyoto.
Speaker 2: They have signs of you come there.
Speaker 3: We did mention this, and I have heard from some
Speaker 3: folks over eight to four that they would show us
Speaker 3: around and shouts out.
Speaker 2: Shouts out to Gabe for checking in on me all
Speaker 2: the time to see a if I was doing okay.
Speaker 2: It's suggesting things to do slash get Hey, guys, there
Speaker 2: are these wipes out there. They're better than dude wipes.
Speaker 2: I don't know what dude wipes are. Uh, these cooling wipes.
Speaker 3: I felt so refreshed, Jane. I have two packs on
Speaker 3: the way from Japan to my house right now.
Speaker 4: Baby, for your butt.
Speaker 3: No they're not.
Speaker 5: They're gonna be for my whole body and I use
Speaker 5: them on my butt.
Speaker 3: I'm also getting I'm also getting some some spray that
Speaker 3: like will cool you off as well, that Gabe was
Speaker 3: talking about and stuff like that. I'm getting all the.
Speaker 6: Short butt not for your butt, but spray are we
Speaker 6: talking about We're not talking talk about butts if you want.
Speaker 3: There's so much cool take outsy in Japan because it's
Speaker 3: so hot there in the summer.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: I think I want to do a video about Japanese
Speaker 3: like personal air conditioning technology. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Also, also I don't know how much to still appeal
Speaker 2: to you, but the sunscreen is so much better there
Speaker 2: than it is.
Speaker 4: I hate to us.
Speaker 2: Yes, I you don't know, I don't know how much
Speaker 2: you guys are often applying sunscreen when you go out. Okay,
Speaker 2: Dan and I are ball. We have to or we
Speaker 2: don't do it.
Speaker 4: Like I did it for the half marathon. I did it.
Speaker 3: Be an ally to your white friends. You're supposed to
Speaker 3: make sure we put on sunscreen. That's what being friends
Speaker 3: with the white person is.
Speaker 2: After Universal, I've made it a point to tell you
Speaker 2: guys to apply sunscreen.
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2: I had to convince Nikki to put sunscreen on, Like, dang, you.
Speaker 4: Don't have You don't put sunscreen on that off if
Speaker 4: I'm going to be out for like hours, Like the
Speaker 4: only time I've done it in recent weeks has been
Speaker 4: when I did the half marathon, Like that's I'm going.
Speaker 3: I did it for the July fourth weekend when we
Speaker 3: were at the beach a bunch, And yeah, you're put it.
Speaker 4: On every time I go out, Sure, sure, but like, yeah,
Speaker 4: if I'm only gonna be out for like a thirty
Speaker 4: minute run, I don't do it.
Speaker 3: Okay, Mike, you said you can't do I do I
Speaker 3: look that much darker than you. I really don't think it's.
Speaker 6: Just a matter of the baldness. Is just a special
Speaker 6: that feeds down on you and it gets real red.
Speaker 2: It could be a problem.
Speaker 5: You can like feel think, Yeah, I do wonder like you.
Speaker 3: Guys don't wear hats for various reasons, and I'm always
Speaker 3: like guys hats. But you guys would just do the.
Speaker 6: Big I got that giant bomb the fishing hat thing
Speaker 6: coming and maybe get my hat. Yeah, go to the
Speaker 6: giant bomb saw the but you you'll look like me.
Speaker 6: Mike Vanatti, the guy is talking about circle jerk, says
Speaker 6: hatless man.
Speaker 2: We should really grab you're in control of the store
Speaker 2: now we after we get the product, we should take
Speaker 2: our own model photos.
Speaker 3: Oh I can do that.
Speaker 2: Hell, yes, tell you.
Speaker 3: I'll might just do it anyhow, no matter what.
Speaker 2: I met bugs Bunny over the weekend. By the way,
Speaker 2: and that's apt because this email is about the Looney Tunes,
Speaker 2: dear Bombers the GB crew as Looney Tune cartoon characters.
Speaker 2: Let's do this. Janachoa janis pepelapu pepe Alpu so suave
Speaker 2: and charming that one almost forgets that he's hellas us.
Speaker 2: What the fuck? Chanceled Jeff crub Grub is the Tasmanian devil,
Speaker 2: an unstoppable whirlwind of directionless energy. And though I've never
Speaker 2: seen him eat, I get the sense that after like
Speaker 2: three margariteas, Jeff could absolutely crush a plate of food
Speaker 2: like tas is known to. It would be like a
Speaker 2: horror movie for chicken wings.
Speaker 3: Whenever Vinnie talks about eating fast, I'm like about eat
Speaker 3: faster than you. Yeah, I bet I do, because I
Speaker 3: just like hate okay, eating, and I just want to
Speaker 3: get it over as soon as possible.
Speaker 2: I think my dad could beat all of you.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: My dad would go hard. This is this one's accurate.
Speaker 2: I remember my energy and no direction. Yes, this threw
Speaker 2: Vinnie for a loop. Jeff Grubb, how many jars of
Speaker 2: regulation peanut butter do you think you could eat in
Speaker 2: one sitting in an hour? In an hour?
Speaker 3: Okay, well look that's rough because that would glue the
Speaker 3: jaw shut.
Speaker 6: I mean an hour. I listen, I could do maybe
Speaker 6: two if I had to so many calories, right, it's
Speaker 6: so many calories. I would feel like ship because the
Speaker 6: sugar pro I'm like.
Speaker 3: Listen, like a pizza like that Domino's order that any
Speaker 3: talking about that one time? Like, yeah, I would do
Speaker 3: that same thing easily. Yes, peanut Butter's rock.
Speaker 2: How we should just do one hundred chicken nugget challenge
Speaker 2: next time? We know that the next Lander boys.
Speaker 6: Are Yeah, I might get some of those those boneless
Speaker 6: chicken leaves in Ohio that have the bones.
Speaker 2: Still.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that got stuck in a man's throat. What do
Speaker 3: you hear about that?
Speaker 6: The Supreme Court ruled that boneless chicken legs could have bone.
Speaker 6: I had like thirty people tag me.
Speaker 5: What the sorry?
Speaker 3: Look, we didn't mean it. I don't know, We're sorry.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: I defended the stage.
Speaker 2: You're right, all right, let's continue on Turbo Shan. Turbo
Speaker 2: Shawn is Go Go Do Dough. Oh yeah, wow it's
Speaker 2: actually yeah, that's set. That's a tall Yeah yeah. I
Speaker 2: likeson is Fifi La Fume. Fife is by far the
Speaker 2: most stylish and self possessed of the tiny tunes. Also,
Speaker 2: their first names are spelled kind of similar.
Speaker 4: Sure, kind of thought about Go Go Dodo in a
Speaker 4: long time. No, the toy of Go Go Dodo a
Speaker 4: tiny tunes one like, well, I love tunes.
Speaker 6: Well because Go Go Dodo is the one Tiny tune
Speaker 6: who I feel like was way more popular. Than whatever
Speaker 6: the Looney tune version was. There was one, because I
Speaker 6: remember looking it up once.
Speaker 2: Right, okay to more who's saying Tam is beaky, buzzard, patient, analytical,
Speaker 2: and more than happy to benefit from your untimely demise.
Speaker 2: He also has a has his knife and fork out,
Speaker 2: and if you slip up just a little bit, he feasts.
Speaker 2: Jeff Backlar's Bugs Bunny Bugs Bunny was a sardonic Bugs
Speaker 2: Bunny has a sardonic sense of humor. Jeff Backlar has
Speaker 2: a sardonic sense of humor. Bugs Bunny catchphrase is what's up? Doc?
Speaker 2: Jeff Backlar has a doctorate in hockey. Bugs Bunny does
Speaker 2: a number of racially insensitive impressions. Jeff Backlar's from New Jersey,
Speaker 2: so he probably knows what it's like to do that
Speaker 2: to at least a couple of people.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Mike Manati's Porky Pig. Much like Porky Pig, Porky Pig
Speaker 2: is polite, affable, and doesn't wear pants because he's always
Speaker 2: ready to go. He doesn't get the name porky because
Speaker 2: he's a pig. This freakazoid doesn't have a ring on
Speaker 2: his finger, but he does have one on his wallet,
Speaker 2: if you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Did that tell you guys about the Magnum condom.
Speaker 2: Your rings of Power? Yes, I saw all the tweet
Speaker 2: about it, and yeah, okay, yeah I did see that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I went to see Deadpool and like before before I went,
Speaker 6: we went to the bathroom and it was just.
Speaker 2: Covered in water.
Speaker 3: It was like water from the walls.
Speaker 6: No, I don't know where it came from, but there
Speaker 6: was just a pool of it on the floor and
Speaker 6: there's like what caution it like wet code. It just
Speaker 6: water everywhere, and then like what solitary unwrapped Magnum cond
Speaker 6: it was unwrapped.
Speaker 3: If it was unwrapped, I'm like from an eyeball, you're
Speaker 3: just ironing it, like that's a Magnum condom. I know
Speaker 3: that one was a label.
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, so I don't know, like somebody had to
Speaker 6: be doing a funny with that, just like accidentally dropped
Speaker 6: their Magne condom going to see Deadpool, and I was like, no, buddy,
Speaker 6: seeing Deadpool has a big penis.
Speaker 2: I may have to wrap the show in a bit,
Speaker 2: but let's let's continue. There's dan record. This one requires
Speaker 2: a bit of a thought exercise. But Dan is Daffy Duck.
Speaker 2: I want you to close your eyes and imagine Dan's
Speaker 2: face covered in black soot after being shot with a blunderbuss.
Speaker 2: Now imagine Dan. Now imagine Dan reaching up and swiveling
Speaker 2: a fleshy duck bill from behind his head onto his
Speaker 2: human face and schlorping it into place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see it.
Speaker 4: I like Daffy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Daffy's fine, like his DS game duck a muck.
Speaker 3: Ben Hansen, Oh no, it's a great one.
Speaker 2: Scout is being very bad. Is very God Please scount.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to get the crazy out all right, now,
Speaker 2: finish this email. H Lucy James. Lucy is the roadrunner
Speaker 2: for no other reason than I suspect she can do
Speaker 2: a good meat.
Speaker 3: Yeah she could.
Speaker 2: I thought they put Lucy as the roadrunner because of
Speaker 2: a long neck. Uh huh, all right, quickly. Two more
Speaker 2: emails long Games. This one comes from I didn't write
Speaker 2: their name, but it's okay.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: Emailer writes in Hello Bombers, I'm flying to the Philippines
Speaker 2: with my partner for the first time. It's September and
Speaker 2: plan to use the combined forty five hours of flight
Speaker 2: time there and back to catch up on my switch backlog.
Speaker 2: Please rank the following games from one to five on
Speaker 2: the back of our important scale. Metroid, Dread, Hollow Night, Hades,
Speaker 2: Super Mario RPG, Super Mario Odyssey.
Speaker 4: Odyssey's number one, number one, Yeah, Dread is number two.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hollow Nights three. I mean, hey, oh, maybe Hades
Speaker 5: is three, holow Night four, and then five Smart RG
Speaker 5: is five.
Speaker 3: It's it's still a great game. These are all really
Speaker 3: good games. It's the problem, like some of these are
Speaker 3: like all time bangers. Is like God, it'd be a great,
Speaker 3: SuperFect game that I've yes, and I've played that like
Speaker 3: four times now.
Speaker 2: It does not get old.
Speaker 5: Maybe Hayes is too even.
Speaker 3: I think Hades might be two.
Speaker 5: Wow, that might be to be three rough.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I feel like I underrate Hades for how
Speaker 4: much I enjoyed playing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 3: Look influential games on.
Speaker 6: Big Mario Odissy is still probably the best game made
Speaker 6: in the least ten years though, so definitely played that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to replay that? Or should I
Speaker 2: just wait for Astrobot?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, let me play Astrobot and then we'll play
Speaker 3: Mario Otis. You'll find a reason.
Speaker 2: It could be great. It'd be great.
Speaker 6: Well, I feel like now that Dan has played Hollow
Speaker 6: Night and likes it, that he has to pick something
Speaker 6: new to pick on, and I guess he's decided it's
Speaker 6: Kirby because I happened to defend them.
Speaker 4: I don't hate Kirby character. I think the old Kirby
Speaker 4: platform games the namesake of Kirby. Those games suck. Yes,
Speaker 4: Kirby's been good.
Speaker 5: I like I fig you're a dummy.
Speaker 2: I would love to have a.
Speaker 4: Beer with Kirby. I just don't want to play his platforms.
Speaker 2: Be president.
Speaker 5: This is how George W.
Speaker 2: Bush got elected.
Speaker 4: Damn, Kirby's the George W. Bush of Nintendo characters.
Speaker 3: Oh, let's not do that. Second second, Meta Night has
Speaker 3: hit the tower.
Speaker 4: I don't know another with stuff.
Speaker 3: It's like that was the government. US government? Did that change?
Speaker 5: Is nine to eleven related?
Speaker 2: Okay, last email of the show. Uh, hey, I go.
Speaker 5: Killed Dan?
Speaker 2: What does it mean?
Speaker 3: Your whole thing? Yeah, that whole sentence was very good.
Speaker 2: Hey y'all, Nathan from the bay here in Washington. In
Speaker 2: an earlier episode, you talked about strange raises that enter
Speaker 2: your life due to the influence of media. I had
Speaker 2: the experience of using a baby's handful while dming for
Speaker 2: my weekly game, without ever realizing I was saying it.
Speaker 2: Everyone had a good laugh, but then I dawned on
Speaker 2: them what I just said, and about of confusion and
Speaker 2: giggles sped across it spread across the table. I'd explained
Speaker 2: where in the hell the phrase came from and give
Speaker 2: examples of how to use it in conversation. Regardless, the
Speaker 2: phrase has become one of my friend's new favorite things
Speaker 2: to say, and he truly loves how how silly and descriptive.
Speaker 2: It is slightly unrelated, but I was watching the latest
Speaker 2: episode of grub Katana and heard the bit about them
Speaker 2: trying to convince Minati to DM a game. I've been
Speaker 2: a longtime DM and will be up for the challenge
Speaker 2: of running a game for grub Dan and Manati, despite
Speaker 2: the utter terror I feel in my heart when I
Speaker 2: imagine Dan at the table just throwing it out there
Speaker 2: and the off chance this insane idea picks up any
Speaker 2: traction anyway, Grub I hope he has a baby's handful
Speaker 2: of grub Katana left. It's been amazing to watch the
Speaker 2: bullshit but I worry for his health. Love you all.
Speaker 3: I coplese. People actually don't like watching it.
Speaker 4: It's been so much like about what audience was. Will
Speaker 4: spend their time watching.
Speaker 3: And it's like, uh, it's something amazing. Does happen every
Speaker 3: episode there was a part, there was a point in
Speaker 3: what's the game? I did the bike riding game? There? Yeah,
Speaker 3: it stopped there was there stopped being new bullshit. This
Speaker 3: has had multiple new bullshit every time. Even that last
Speaker 3: episode made lots of Proggyes. I remember several times where
Speaker 3: it's like lots of was happening. But this idea, Uh,
Speaker 3: I like this, if we were to do something like this,
Speaker 3: maybe we should bring in like a professional a d
Speaker 3: M or and we could all be characters.
Speaker 4: And I've done it with Austin Walker and I still
Speaker 4: don't understand it.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well yeah, I mean it's it's KFE.
Speaker 3: We explained it to you. You get it.
Speaker 5: How do you?
Speaker 3: What do you do?
Speaker 4: What are you trying to do?
Speaker 3: How do you about anything? To what end?
Speaker 2: I think Bailey brought this up when we're at Disneyland,
Speaker 2: but she could make us like a specific wrestling related
Speaker 2: journey or quest whatever it is in.
Speaker 3: D and D. The Maclroi brothers do their D and
Speaker 3: D thing, and one time I just tweet them like, hey,
Speaker 3: if you ever do a bonus episode, I would like
Speaker 3: do like a Sudden Death meets Russell main yet And
Speaker 3: that was their first bonus that the Johnson Bandam movie. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: and the whole the whole episode is about them trying
Speaker 3: to like find out a mystery that's happening at a
Speaker 3: fantasy wrestling event. And they named the main villain Jeff
Speaker 3: Eagle after me. That's very nice.
Speaker 2: Story. We could finish and everything. Oh my god, yeah,
Speaker 2: come up with the entrances and everything like yeah.
Speaker 6: Oh, speaking of Forrest Gump, Dan, next time I come
Speaker 6: into uh Town, we go to the Mall of America.
Speaker 6: Should we go to the We've done the Frankforce Cafe age.
Speaker 6: Should we do the Bubba Gump or the Margarita.
Speaker 4: Villa margitavill because I don't really like seafood or I
Speaker 4: don't know if I've really seen Forrest Gump, So yeah,
Speaker 4: let's see Margaritaville.
Speaker 3: Did you have the Bubba Gump drink with us at
Speaker 3: that before?
Speaker 4: Mario?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, yeahright, that was glorious.
Speaker 5: How did you live through the nineties, He didn't, sy Forest.
Speaker 4: I've seen like parts of it on TV out of order,
Speaker 4: so I may have seen it all at some point
Speaker 4: out of you know, different days and stuff. But I've
Speaker 4: never just sat and watched Forest Gump. I think I've
Speaker 4: seen Forrest Gump like six times by accident. All I've
Speaker 4: ran a lot of like Mad Magazine and you know,
Speaker 4: parodies and.
Speaker 3: Stuff of it.
Speaker 2: You get it, then, Yeah, Forrest Gump is ruined. The
Speaker 2: way I say the name Jenny Jen j Jena whenever
Speaker 2: I have to get like a gas generator at various
Speaker 2: places of work. Sure it would be fun to say,
Speaker 2: get the all right, all right, all right, what do
Speaker 2: we got going on this week? Boys? It's like a
Speaker 2: normal substandard week, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm flying out to see these two fellows in
Speaker 4: Ohio on uh I think Thursday, and but we got
Speaker 4: we'll all be here for Dai Katana on Wednesday tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Blank trub game mess for the rest of the week
Speaker 2: except Friday, Greb.
Speaker 3: I will probably do game mess mornings on Friday's. It's
Speaker 3: up in the air, everyone, okay, now, all right, we
Speaker 3: should be able to do it.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned on Friday. Hey, if a game mess doesn't happen,
Speaker 2: I'll figure out some funky stuff to do.
Speaker 3: I might play like fall Out London on the website
Speaker 3: this sometime this week, probably on Thursday, we'll.
Speaker 2: See the Blight Boys are headed to some Rastlin. There
Speaker 2: are some other trips playned in the horizon. Jeff Jeff's
Speaker 2: happening later this week. Voicemailed dump Truck as well, and guys, guys, gentlemen,
Speaker 2: what we learned today? Ooh, I don't remember what this
Speaker 2: note is about, but we learned about the glory whole fence.
Speaker 2: We learned that Mike Manatti might be okay with liquid death,
Speaker 2: but it is also a fuddy duddy. We learned about
Speaker 2: the ultimate power forgetting and that's what we always do.
Speaker 2: We learned about getting venomed. We learned about grub being
Speaker 2: three six three, and that everyone fucking throws me under
Speaker 2: the bus through the New York Times, Mini, I will
Speaker 2: not stand for this anymore. And here a giant bomb.
Speaker 2: Folks at home say, rest assured, we support beating it.
Speaker 2: And Kirby is a George W. Bush Nintendo. That's what
Speaker 2: we've learned this week on the Giant Bomb Cast folks.
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining me on the Giant Bob guys,
Speaker 2: thank you for joining Cheff, Thank you for joining Firepower.
Speaker 3: Can't melt the steel beams.
Speaker 2: There we go, There we go. Started Willsie you next
Speaker 2: week for another episode of the Giant BombCast. Thank you,
Speaker 2: you realized that we love you. Goodbye, Scout. That was
Speaker 2: very bad. Why did you choose the baseboard of the bathroom?
Speaker 3: Oh no, just sumpartment. Did just get some flex seal
Speaker 3: and just spray over it? What are we gonna do?
Speaker 4: Is the aji?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 2: I'm terrified as Google? Can you say the gay community?
Speaker 2: What you say the gay community?
Speaker 3: Do you support Valvenus?
Speaker 2: Oh? Dear no, yeah, yeah, the new one is a
Speaker 2: new Valvenus.
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Now does he have loose change? All right?
Speaker 2: Okay, let's bye everyone,