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And today we have returning guests at least more than

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five times now. Emily, welcome back to the show, hi Wan.

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Speaker 4: Always a pleasure to spend a few hours with you,

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my friend.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And before we get into it, Emily, where

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can people find you on your work? Your channel?

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Speaker 4: You're so good about all this stuff.

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Speaker 5: You say all your things before you get started, like

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I always forget to do all one.

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Speaker 4: My YouTube channel is my name, Emily Moyer. I put some.

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Speaker 5: Stuff there like I do my live streams with Danny

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and with Robert Phoenix there, and I post occasional episodes

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if I feel like they're sort of suited for that

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of Strange Mosaic and some other things there. But I'm

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also on Patre dot com, forward Slash, off Planet Media,

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Emilymoyre dot locals dot com and Rockfin dot com forward

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Slash Emily Moyre. In the In twenty twenty five, we'll

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be embarking on a new project and as part of that,

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I will also probably be on Odyssey as well.

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Speaker 4: And I think hopefully.

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Speaker 5: If this goes in any way that I'm hoping this

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will be my great work and then we'll see where

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we are. My website is also emilycmoyer dot com. If

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you are interested in the weird shit I talk about

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or the weird stories I tell, I offer storytelling sessions

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and I'm also a nutrition consultant and if you need

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help getting that shit in order, I can help you

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with that too. All right, now that we've got all

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the bullshit out of the way for ready to go?

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Speaker 2: Now we have all the business out of the way.

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The mumbo jumbo? What you what do you think you you?

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If you want to start with cattle?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 2: I made you watch a movie? Now now I owe

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you one. I know that we got a comment on

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one of the last videos that I posted from an

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episode we did a while back where you mentioned the

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Io or Ao whatever that the the name of that

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show is, and they're like Emily's brought it up for

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the fifth time or something like that, and Juan still

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hasn't watched the show. So I gotta do you a

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solid because you did watch the movie and that movie.

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I did do a Patreon episode where we broke down

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the movie. I was with Ryder Lee. We broke down

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the entire movie and talked about it the lore behind

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the lake, and I think that it really fit into

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Speaker 4: So I watched it that night, So I did you

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took away any concerns that I would say I did

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but didn't really or anything like that.

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Speaker 4: Or whatever, you of think it's got. Yeah, it's not that.

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Speaker 5: See if by the end of this episode I can

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thread this needle. It's also connected to the imaginal theater

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Speaker 4: See if I can. It just just dawned on me today.

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your wine rant on the imaginal theater.

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Speaker 4: Next time it bad, No, it was great, but like

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that's it's fun to do it like that.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes next time you're like drinking and driving, call me

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and or get me know. I'll come on and you

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can drink wine and wander and I'll drink bourbon and

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Speaker 2: Uh, I'm not going to do it driving, but I'm

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Speaker 4: They're driving the wand on lawn bus, right.

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Speaker 2: It was Yeah, I felt like that was actually that

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video and two takes, so at one point in the

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the week because I was like stop.

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Speaker 5: I had to stop there because I had so many

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This is what happens. The problem for me when I

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Speaker 4: Or someone like Thomas.

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Speaker 5: Or whatever, is every sentence you say leads to an

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hour worth of contemplation for me about something so like,

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Speaker 4: Right, So, but I think I see some level of

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through line that.

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Speaker 5: That we can maybe we can sort of get to.

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i'd never heard of it, right, you heard you? You

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Speaker 4: We'll discuss all of that after the public portion is

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going to go go public tonight. My patients have already

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had it. But we talked about cattle Lake. I'd never

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heard of cattle Lake.

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Speaker 5: Before you though I live in Texas and I've been

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Speaker 4: I'd never heard of it, which I think is pretty interesting.

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Speaker 5: And we already, just from what you were telling me

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and from me looking at it on the map and

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watching the little trailer, we were already starting to pluck

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Speaker 4: But what I found the most, you know, sort of

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interesting or useful or whatever it is, is that what

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that movie displayed in terms of like the process that

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Speaker 5: What I think is going on here in Austin on

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ladybird Lake, right, And so this is something now, it's

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is it possible that you hear about the murder, the

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serial killer, the Ladybirdlake serial killer.

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Speaker 4: You hear people wondering if it's the Smiley Face killer.

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about this on YouTube. But I will tell you this

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that like that one's pretty popular that you just passed.

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all of them.

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Speaker 5: And there's some like people from the alternative media who's

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proposed ideas. All of them are only considering things from

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one perspective, and I'd say most of them are not.

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Their perspective is not wrong. It's just one of many

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things that are going on, right. And this show would

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basically the Cottle Lake sort of set up a framework

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for how something like this would work in.

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Speaker 4: Which all kinds of all kinds of theories could be

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simultaneously true without offending each other other than the egos

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of the person who thinks that their narrative is the

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only right one.

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Speaker 2: When I saw this poster, I said, hmm, Lady Bird.

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This looks like an A twenty four film. As soon

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as I scroll down, boom A twenty four.

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Speaker 4: Ah, I've not seen this.

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Speaker 2: What is this about? So is a solo director of

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debut Greta Girlwig and on various mumble core films. What

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is mumblecre What is that?

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Speaker 4: I don't know? But it's set in Sacramento, which is

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where my mom is from. And I was just in

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Sacramento a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Theatrically al right, so the plot is senior Immaculate Heart

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of Mary Catholic High School. Despite your familyus finishy long,

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so attend prestige blah blah blah right during a ride. Okay,

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all right, I don't I don't know. It doesn't seem

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that interesting.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't seem that interesting. I'll look at it closely

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later when we're not on the when we're all sporting.

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Speaker 5: But so, you have a scenario where you have like

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a very small town that is on one part of

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a lake. You have some very interesting trees that are

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sort of in the water, you have a dam, and

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creates a strange loop regarding a certain family in this town, right,

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and the resolution to the story basically comes at the

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exact moment that sort of one of the central characters

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sort of dies in his attempt to close the loop, right,

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on some level there was some dimension aspect to it

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and ear bleeding and you know, tones and things like that.

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lake where the rift or the anomaly seems most like

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most prevalent, most pertinent or most prevalent or whatever it is.

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Speaker 4: The situation here in Austin is this people.

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Speaker 5: Austin Labor Lake is one of seven lakes that are

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dammed up around the city of Austin. It is the

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Colorado River in Texas damned into lakes. So they are

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man made lakes, right, Okay, And since for at this

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point sixty seventy five years, people have been going missing

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or dying in somewhat mysterious ways, with clusters happening at

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certain times and then nothing for quite a bit quite

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Speaker 5: You have a scenario where the Austin Police Department is

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insisting that most of these are accidents and that they're unrelated.

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finally becoming somewhat insistent that there's something else going on here.

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Speaker 4: And there's a lot of narratives around it. There's ideas

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about like a sort of a drugging and theft ring.

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There's ideas of the Smiley Face killer. There's ideas of

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a gay serial killer. There's ideas of right. But the

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the you know, the other thing is that so Ladybirdlake

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used to be called Town Lake. It's about ten years

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Speaker 5: But one of the the lore in Texas is always

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you can't go swimming in Ladybird Lake.

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Speaker 4: And there's like a few layers of reasons. So the

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Speaker 5: Is is that there's some sort of bacteria or algae

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in the water that's not good for humans, right, and

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as soon as you dig through and realize that that's

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not actually true, the next layer of the cover up

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and and it's not safe, right, And then you kind

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where you start to recognize that when people go missing

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in the lake, they don't really put much effort into

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looking for them, which is weird, and that there are

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anomalous things that seem to happen on the lake where people.

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Speaker 4: Seem to lose their orientation. Right.

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Speaker 5: I literally watched with my eyes Austin Parks and rec

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hear that, like things disappear into the Bermuda triangle, and

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the pilot of it was really confused about what happened.

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of it. And I also had this really strange interaction

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with the gentleman one day. We were Laura and I

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were exercising and we're running this way and he's running

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towards us and passes us. And then a few minutes

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later we feel someone coming up behind us and we

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look at it's this guy who had passed us about

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five minutes earlier, and he's getting really close to us,

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and we could tell that like he was wanting to

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be near us or wanting to talk to us. And

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he tells us that he's confused, that he had a

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seizure and fell in.

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Speaker 4: The water and he got out of the water. He's

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disoriented and he is soaking wet, so like he seems

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like he's been in the water.

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Speaker 5: And he walks with us for about half an hour,

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right And in the beginning, we were a little nervous

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because we got to this one area right near the

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power plant where he's walking with us, and there's a

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car blocking the path and I've never seen that before,

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and it almost like that car pulled into that spot

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to like it felt like it was there to sort

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of meet us or intercept us, and so we both

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got pretty anxious, but we passed it and nothing seemed

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to happen, and he started talking to us, and he

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started telling me about some specific kind of epilepsy that

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he has and that he goes to this doctor.

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Speaker 4: And I remembered the doctor's name, and later I did

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look her up and that is a real brain doctor

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in Austin. But he seemed confused.

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Speaker 5: What he was telling me was that the street that

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he was looking for didn't look right. So he was saying,

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I'm looking for like an Avasota or whatever episode is

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a street in that area of Austin. But he was

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saying that the thing that's supposed to be it looked different,

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like what he was looking for on that street wasn't

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there right. And he just seemed confused, like he seemed

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to like he didn't seem crazy, he didn't seem to

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be on drugs, he didn't seem stupid, you know, it

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seemed like he was.

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Speaker 4: Perplexed about the version of Austin he found himself in,

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which was mostly familiar but missing marker points for him

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to know, like where he would normally turn on the

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trail and whatnot.

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Speaker 5: He walked with us for about half an hour and

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then we parted ways.

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Speaker 4: And since then, so it's like two years ago. I've

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talked about it on a show of Michael before.

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Speaker 5: Since then, I have seen him a couple of times

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around town and it always time.

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Speaker 4: Actually not around town. I've always seen him in Whole Foods.

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Speaker 5: I've seen him like three times in the same Whole Foods,

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and every time he looks at me like he knows me,

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but he can't quite place it, right, And he's always

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like talking to the cashier or talking to the security

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guard that stands out front of the market or whatever

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it is.

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Speaker 4: But he always looks at me in this way like

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that's more, that's meaningful, right, That is kind of interesting.

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I've never approached him and talked him. I'm not I'm

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almost certain he wouldn't remember, right.

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Speaker 5: And so over the time that I've been back here,

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Like I knew that when I used to live here,

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back in the late nineties and early two thousands, that

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there were stories of people going missing in the lake,

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but I was still buying the stories.

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Speaker 4: About the algae or the undertow or whatever.

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Speaker 5: But with all of the things that I've come to

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understand about what's really going on in Austin here, with

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technology and lots of other stuff, I think it's impossible

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that this the lake is some sort of portal between

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dimensions or some sort of like timeline.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Something is happening with the water where people are being

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attracted to it or people are recognizing that there's something

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going on there. I see a lot of homeless people

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and like graffiti, taggers and stuff doing things that seemed

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to me to be like leaving breadcrumbs or hints for

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themselves about like how to find their way back to

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something I see, Like people pick a spot where they're

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gonna sit. There was a gentleman who was sitting under

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the bridge on First Street. He didn't move from the

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same spot for two years. That fool didn't go to

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the bathroom. He peed in his fucking pants. He wasn't

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on drugs, he wasn't crazy, he was nice. I brought

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him food one time, but he always sat there staring

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in the same direction. There was another older gentleman on

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the other side of the lake who had a tent

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that he.

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Speaker 4: Was living in, and he would stare in the same

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direction all the.

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Speaker 5: Time, and then one day he was just gone. The

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guy that I was talking about that's under the bridge.

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Like finally, after two years, the police put up notices

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that he didn't move that you know that or if

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people didn't move from.

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Speaker 4: Their spots, they were gonna get, you know, be arrested.

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He was gone. I don't know if he was arrested,

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but what it always felt like to me.

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Speaker 5: Based on the position he was sitting in, what it

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faced and what was around it, that he was staring

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at what he knew to be some kind of portal

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or some kind of rift and either waiting for it

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to open again, or like waiting for someone who like

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he was supposed to be meeting up with but got

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lost in the dimension whatever the fuck it is, right, Like,

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he didn't take his eyes off of this area, right,

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And some of the people who there's there's some thrill

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lines with some of the people who have either gone

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missing or turned up dead.

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Speaker 4: There's even people who like have.

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Speaker 5: Survived and have some memory of what happened to them,

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or no memory of what happened to them or whatnot.

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And I've talked about some of this on shows before.

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It's been a while, so I don't remember all of

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the details. But all of these, all of the places

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where the people go missing or are found, are locations

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that I have identified as anomalist, that I've had weird

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things happen to me there, that I had seen weird

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stuff that are at the center of like what I

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call the portion of the lake that where I see

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like the reflective reality.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I've ever shown you any of

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the pictures that.

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Speaker 5: I take of the lake where literally there's like a

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perfectly upside down Austin that you can see in the water,

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that has such an eerie sense of definition to it

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that I ask myself.

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Speaker 4: The question is are we in the real world or

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is that in the real world. Are there to Austins?

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Are they connected or do Some of these buildings go

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much farther down into the ground, so they're literally like,

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you know, not just top up that there's like a

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full other building underneath the ground down there going the

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other way, Like, the anomalies on this lake have made

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so much content for me over the last couple of years, and.

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Speaker 5: It seems to be some kind of like way station

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or junction between timelines or between moving back and forth

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in time or wrapping around or dimension like maybe there's

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other versions of Austin and the lake is like somehow

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you go in the lake.

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Speaker 4: I've played with the.

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Speaker 5: Idea that it's bottomless, that right like that it's like

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an inland ocean and it's very very deep.

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Speaker 4: You go in the water and you.

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Speaker 5: Don't necessarily come out in the same version. There's topography

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and geology around the lake that makes there's some areas

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where it's like tropical, there's palm trees, other areas where

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it's like you're in the woods cedar trees like oak tree, right,

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Like there's all these different geography is like compressed here, right,

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so maybe it's kind of a uh, you know, an

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access point to many different times or versions of the

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same like times at the location or versions of the location.

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And then of course there's the movie The Congress, right,

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which is you know, have you ever seen the movie

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The Congress. No, so it's an Alamo it's an Alamo

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draft House film, which Alamo draft House.

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Speaker 4: Is an Austin film company and movie theater.

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Speaker 5: Congress is the main street that leads up to the

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Capitol here in Austin. And in the movie The Congress,

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there's like this weird underground sort of grotto that these

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people who have sold their image and likeness sort of

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to the Hollywood machine go to interact with each other

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in posts having sold their their their their name, their

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their likeness, and it's like this underground, underwater grotto and

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it's very bizarre. They're all they also vote, like, are

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in this place where you can take a drug to

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become another person, right, you can like experience what it's

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like to be someone else and whatnot.

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Speaker 4: And when I look at all of these sewer entrances

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that I see all around the lake here like inside

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and I haven't built up the courage to go in yet,

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I feel like there's something under there, Like I don't

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know what it is, but I feel like.

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Speaker 5: Since I've been here, I feel like something is trying

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to and I don't know if it's malevolent or benevolent

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or whatever, it is sort of entice me into going

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in there and checking it out, right.

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Speaker 2: And so I found this painting. I don't know if

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it's the Ladybird Lake trail side retaining upon Earth's portal

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at Ladybird Lake. It's from an artist found this one, okay,

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and it's fifteen grand she did and twenty twenty. Again,

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I don't know anything else more. But it's interesting that

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we're filming this the day before Lyndon B. Johnson, which

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Lyndon B. Johnson is who wife's was Lakelady Bird, who

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the the lake is named after, right, Lady Bird? First,

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lady what's her name? Lady Bird Johnson?

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Speaker 4: Yep?

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Speaker 2: And again we're doing this November twenty first, always.

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Speaker 4: Happens, and I have some dates for you and for

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the next segment that you're gonna blow your mind too.

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Speaker 2: So I wondered, like I was like lyndon to be John,

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What does that sound so familiar? What is he famous for?

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Of course he's famous because of JFK. Right, he would

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have never been president if it weren't for JFK being

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gunned down, right yep, And so I found this. I

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don't know if it's got anything to do with it,

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but you know, you're mentioning portals. And there's also the

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conspiracy that there are tunnels near the Lady Bird Lake.

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Speaker 4: So I've been in some of the tunnels, but I

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haven't been into these like shoers that go right into

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the water.

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Speaker 2: So Ladybird Lake, Texas secret tunnels. See what comes up? Misstic?

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There are secret tunnels for people and horses that extend

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from the Capitol all the way to Ladybird Lake. Although

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tunnels did exist, they were not secret or meant for escape,

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but rather installed for utility. So of course, right, so

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it's just utilities. You can't swim in the water because

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there's a deadly you know, bacteria in it, right, So

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that was in nineteen sixties that they ruled that. So

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it makes you wonder how for example, at Skinwalker Ranch

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right where you have the Skinwalker kind of sort of calling.

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They call them the water babies that call people towards

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bodies of water, and then they also I believe they

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also drown. And you're talking about this attraction that people

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have when it comes to this. And that's why that

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movie was so important to me because I'm like, oh,

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could this be right? Sha Malama ding Dong, which I'm

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sure is in the No did the movie The Watchers.

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His daughter did the movie The Watchers, which was kind

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of sort of about Nephelim interdimensional portals type of thing.

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Then you had this movie that he produced, right, He

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wasn't a director and he was I think executive producer.

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And I'm like, is this another piece to the puzzle

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of people who have neurological disorders? And then why do

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they have Why do people get ms? Are they in

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the wrong timeline? Did they slip through at some point

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in time or something where we don't know why they

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have certain things wrong with them, but they just do

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and there's no cure for it. Well, what if it's temporal?

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Like what if it's like time time diseases is what

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I called it. I think is dimensional diseases or something

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or other. I called it where it's like you're in

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the wrong place, that's why that's happening to you. Yep, right,

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And I.

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Speaker 4: Forget what's one it is.

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Speaker 5: But there's a woman named Alifia Black, and she talks

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about how like one of the neurological disorders because your

479
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process seeing time too quickly, and the other one is

480
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because you're processing time too slowly and so right that

481
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what you're talking about, like that would be that like

482
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if you're you know, that seemed to be when they

483
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:15,720
were when the time periods would come based on weather

484
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and like what was the deciding factor about if the

485
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portal was going to open again?

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Speaker 4: Right, it was the water was a drought or now

487
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there's a on.

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Speaker 5: The bridge here, like there's a stairway that shows the

489
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last time this lake has flooded many times and the

490
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last time was in June two thousand and one, and

491
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,519
you see where that mark is, right, Like it's super interesting,

492
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like it's super.

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Speaker 4: High, right, and this has happened multiple times.

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Speaker 5: So I also wonder if the water rising and or

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the water, you know, receding, depending on which dimension you're

496
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in or how the story is going that correlates on

497
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some level with these clusters of people either disappearing or

498
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be you know, dyes, you know, being found dead or

499
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whatever it is. The other part that's weird about this

500
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is there does seem to be some connection to a

501
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similar thing that's happening in Chicago, right and almost like

502
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during some time periods where there's not like whether it

503
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be a few weeks or a few months or a

504
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few years where it's not happening here, it seems to

505
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be happening in Chicago.

506
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Speaker 4: And what I know, I went to Chicago for the

507
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first time this past year. Of the architecture there, I

508
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did like it.

509
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Speaker 5: If it wasn't if they didn't have winter there, then

510
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,880
it's a place i'd consider living because right so, but

511
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not only is the architecture super fantastic in a similar

512
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way that I find a lot of the architecture here

513
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to be really interesting. Literally, they have some of the

514
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exact same buildings built by the same architect and the

515
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,039
difference between the buildings they're just bigger versions of the

516
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one here, but they're farther back from the water. So

517
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in order to reflect upside down and the way it

518
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does here, they have.

519
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Speaker 4: To be bigger. Now, Chicago's a bigger city. They have

520
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the higher skyline, you know, like you can go higher whatever,

521
00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:16,400
but they're also further back. I identified three or four

522
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,799
buildings that are exactly the same proportionally as the ones

523
00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:23,640
in Austin. They're just bigger there. Some of them have

524
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the exact same name.

525
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Speaker 5: Right, And I'm wondering, if you know, if you know

526
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how to do all this shit, if it's possible to

527
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,920
move around right through the through the water or through

528
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,759
the buildings, right. And so you've got somebody who's discovered

529
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:46,960
the multi dimensional, omnidirectional space time reality that we live in,

530
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and they're using it to move around and do things

531
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in an undetected fashion. And maybe there's a serial killer,

532
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,279
or maybe there's other people who are experimenting with the

533
00:29:58,279 --> 00:30:00,960
same set of knowledge, but they're not doing it right.

534
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Speaker 4: They're not making it back in time before the.

535
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Speaker 5: Window closes, or they're going back in time and fucking

536
00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:09,839
some shit up and getting themselves in trouble with somebody

537
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,799
or right, it's suddenly somebody.

538
00:30:14,519 --> 00:30:16,759
Speaker 4: Right the wrong timeline and he was trying to say

539
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,039
to you, I'm your brother, or I'm your husband or

540
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I'm your sister or whatever the fuck it is, and

541
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,960
they won't stop bugging you. You might get your head

542
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:23,400
bashed in.

543
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and oh, you're crazy to get away from me.

544
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,160
What are you talking about, because that's the automatic, you know,

545
00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:32,920
a reaction that you would give somebody like that. And

546
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,839
the first thing that you see when you see a

547
00:30:34,839 --> 00:30:36,839
homeless person, go, they don't they don't have their whole

548
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thing together and all that. And an interesting part here.

549
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You're talking about skylines, and I put here the significance

550
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of skylines, and it says this is the ai By

551
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the way, skylands are important for a number of reasons,

552
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including economic development. A city skyline can indicate economic development

553
00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:56,519
with more compact cities having lower emissions blah blah blah.

554
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Societal values. Skylines reflect the society's values. All buildings convey

555
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a sense of importance and prestige of cultural inheritance of city.

556
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Skylands con inunicate it's cultural inheritance, such as the division

557
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into residential, commercial, and business districts. Symbol of power. Historically,

558
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,880
skylands have been a symbol for power, wealth and prosperity

559
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,400
because that's always something that you see, right, like, every

560
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,880
single huge city usually is in front of a body

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of water, which that says a lot because I believe

562
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Mark I had told me one time there was this

563
00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:33,240
book about rivers and how a majority of the population

564
00:31:34,839 --> 00:31:39,039
always settle near rivers. And I think Michael want has

565
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talked about this as well, where it's something about the rivers.

566
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Now you can interpret that.

567
00:31:43,759 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 5: Call by Goro Adachi that has some interesting ideas, right,

568
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And Michael, you know, has spoken a lot about sort

569
00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:57,960
of the connection between rivers and sort of time and

570
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:03,000
the sort of social engineering culture with technology or new

571
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ideas or whatnot. By who time rivers by Goro A Dachi.

572
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,759
It's it's rivers. It's it's it's it's multiple.

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Speaker 2: A catch a d A c.

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Speaker 4: Hi. That's it the time rivers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, go Adachi intelligently designed to function as little

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rivers of time. Wow, this is dope. I see. This

577
00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:34,519
is is what I like is this is the type

578
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of stuff.

579
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Speaker 4: And I don't think he got it necessarily exactly right,

580
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:42,319
but he's opening up some interesting paths for people to

581
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:48,119
traverse with trying to understand some of this stuff. Uh.

582
00:32:48,279 --> 00:32:51,839
Something you said once, Oh, Alicia, can I screen share

583
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on here?

584
00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:53,359
Speaker 2: Yeah?

585
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,359
Speaker 5: I actually was out exercising today and I took some

586
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pictures and I want to show you a few of them.

587
00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:01,680
And you can see how a portal, like so many

588
00:33:01,759 --> 00:33:03,079
places on the water are.

589
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 4: How do I how do I do it?

590
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Speaker 2: See, it's just like stream yard. You just click the

591
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little screen.

592
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Speaker 4: And as I find stream Yard to be difficult, let

593
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me see photos. Okay, let's see if this is it's

594
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not going to be it. Allow, that's not the right thing.

595
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,599
Let me see if I can put up and then

596
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,119
try it. There's that. It closes it.

597
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Speaker 2: Goro docia. Have you tried to getting this guy on?

598
00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:27,359
Speaker 4: Is?

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Speaker 2: He's still around?

600
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Speaker 4: He's still around, but I don't think he does I

601
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,599
know Michael and Masaki have told me that like, he

602
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,400
doesn't really, he doesn't really do it anymore.

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Speaker 5: Unable to share the screen, there's nothing to share. Make

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sure the browser has a permission to record the screen.

605
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: Of course. So this guy's got an interesting website. Check

606
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:50,599
this out.

607
00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, his website is really interesting.

608
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: The super Torch Ritual Underground.

609
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 4: Yep. He made most of his material private a number

610
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,240
of years ago, and he does very little public publicly

611
00:34:06,279 --> 00:34:06,960
anymore at all.

612
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,679
Speaker 2: Of course, Yeah, seems like an interesting kind of guy.

613
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,639
Speaker 4: He's super interesting, right.

614
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Speaker 5: I know Randy, my old podcast partner, tried to reach

615
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,320
out to him for shows a couple of times. But yeah,

616
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I think that like he was doing it in the

617
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early two thousands.

618
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Speaker 4: But other than that, it's not really interested. Let me

619
00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:30,039
let me grab since I can't share the screen, let

620
00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:31,880
me grab my phone. It's in the other room. I'm

621
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gonna show you a couple of.

622
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 2: Is it not letting you show the screen? Really?

623
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,079
Speaker 4: It says that. I yeah, it's like it's like this

624
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:39,280
always happens on everything with M I can never share

625
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:39,920
anything on.

626
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,199
Speaker 2: Any other of course, it's the lizard.

627
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 4: People select a window or screen.

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Speaker 5: I selected messages because that's where I have my pictures,

629
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,000
and I hit a law and it says unable to

630
00:34:51,039 --> 00:34:51,719
share the screen.

631
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 4: There's nothing to share, okay, So let me just grab

632
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,880
my phone and I'll just show you that way I'll read.

633
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: Of course, it's the Illuminati trying to stop us from

634
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,280
sharing anything.

635
00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 4: Right.

636
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,639
Speaker 2: You can also send is it a lot of them?

637
00:35:08,639 --> 00:35:09,840
Because you can send them to me and I can

638
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:10,400
pull them up.

639
00:35:13,039 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 4: Let me just see.

640
00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:17,679
Speaker 5: It's like it's so slow and like like laborious to

641
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:18,000
do it.

642
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 4: That way.

643
00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: What's up?

644
00:35:20,559 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 4: Uh?

645
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:23,519
Speaker 2: I do or telegram? You can send it there.

646
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 4: I don't have telegram.

647
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,559
Speaker 2: Let me just do this with the times you gotta.

648
00:35:29,199 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 4: I just at a certain point I decided I wasn't

649
00:35:31,039 --> 00:35:32,400
signing up for things anymore.

650
00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go, Okay, oh yeah, see how it's.

651
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,519
Speaker 4: Perfectly okay, hold on, look at the See this is.

652
00:35:42,559 --> 00:35:45,559
Speaker 5: A bridge, and see how when it reflects in the water,

653
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:46,599
it ends up looking.

654
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 4: Like eyes or a portal target.

655
00:35:49,039 --> 00:35:53,039
Speaker 2: You can go through, but you can't swim in there.

656
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 4: Correct.

657
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,559
Speaker 5: Look at the way the buildings are in the water.

658
00:35:58,639 --> 00:36:01,360
Look at the way you can see different sort of

659
00:36:01,639 --> 00:36:02,119
Look at that.

660
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty wild. That first picture you showed was

661
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,480
pretty crazy looking, the first one that you got there.

662
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 4: I'll go back.

663
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,199
Speaker 2: Everything is completely still there. That is one right there.

664
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,360
And what's that building? Isn't that the rock Fin building

665
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:19,400
or something that you told me about.

666
00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:22,559
Speaker 4: That's the Google building Google? All right.

667
00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 5: This building right here is called the North Shore. It's

668
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,880
one of the buildings that's also in Chicago. And the owner,

669
00:36:29,199 --> 00:36:31,719
the guy from Rock Finn, the French guy or whatever,

670
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:32,880
he lives there.

671
00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 4: Right like one of the addresses for Rock Finn is

672
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,000
in that building and I watched him on podcast one

673
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,760
time and I could tell he was on the patio

674
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,880
of that building, right.

675
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,039
Speaker 5: And then you have the Independent, which is like a

676
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,400
actually you can't see.

677
00:36:48,199 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 2: The Independent, and isn't it called the Finn or something

678
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,000
like that? The building I don't.

679
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 4: Know exactly what the building is called. It's owned by Google, right,

680
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:03,559
but there's uh see, there's this interesting building right here

681
00:37:04,159 --> 00:37:07,639
that's being built that has this really interesting seam in

682
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:10,559
the middle that almost like is it almost.

683
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 5: Seems like it's trying to show you where the direct

684
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,880
center of Austin is and it's like split in half.

685
00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:18,639
And then this building right here, this sort of lower

686
00:37:18,679 --> 00:37:22,960
building right here, right, Michael and I when he was

687
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,039
here a few weeks ago, we were doing some research.

688
00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 4: On it and it's it's the company is called Silicon Labs.

689
00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:34,480
And let me we found something really interesting the description

690
00:37:34,599 --> 00:37:38,719
of what this company is. Let me tell you what

691
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,079
it is, and you're gonna be like, wow, that's kind

692
00:37:40,119 --> 00:37:40,480
of crazy.

693
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:44,519
Speaker 2: It sounds like some West World Silicone labs here. I

694
00:37:44,519 --> 00:37:49,920
got them pulled up the IoT development platform those people.

695
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, So Silicon Labs, commonly referred is a fabulous

696
00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:01,960
global technology company that designs and manufactures semiconductors, other silicon devices,

697
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,920
and software which it sells to electronic design engineers and

698
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:12,800
manufacturers in Internet of things infrastructure, worldwide Internet of things. Right,

699
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,159
we found some really interesting description of it that's not

700
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,119
in this one where it talks about like the bridge

701
00:38:20,159 --> 00:38:22,079
between being a bridge.

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00:38:21,639 --> 00:38:23,559
Speaker 4: Between analog and.

703
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 5: And sort of like digital or Internet of things type

704
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,280
of where's that one description?

705
00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:34,639
Speaker 4: If I find it, I'll send it to you later.

706
00:38:36,559 --> 00:38:39,239
But uh, where's that one that had the thing about

707
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,400
the analog stuff? Let me see, let me just search

708
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,280
the term analog.

709
00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:48,679
Speaker 2: So are you ready for another movie that I don't

710
00:38:48,679 --> 00:38:52,719
want to say. It's not as good as as Cattle Lake,

711
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,239
But there's a there's a movie right where, of course

712
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,440
Nick Cage. It's called pay the Ghost. And in this

713
00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:03,159
movie spoiler alert, he literally he walks on a bridge

714
00:39:03,199 --> 00:39:07,239
that connects the living world with the world of the dead,

715
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,360
like a physical bridge that he crosses over to go

716
00:39:11,559 --> 00:39:14,719
find his missing son that was taken by like a

717
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,039
demon or something or the other, and goes in there to

718
00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:19,239
rescue him, and then he ends up like rescuing all

719
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,679
these missing children that had been taken by the spirit

720
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,280
in that area because there was a spirit that was

721
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,599
angry at one point because of something that happened, and

722
00:39:29,639 --> 00:39:33,480
he literally crosses the bridge to the other dimension and

723
00:39:33,519 --> 00:39:36,840
pulls everybody back out and they're all reunited with their parents.

724
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 4: Some days, some days it feels like that in Austin.

725
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,679
Speaker 5: Some days when you cross there's many bridges that cross

726
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,880
the lake, all in downtown Austin. There's the Pleasant Valley Bridge. There,

727
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,400
there's I thirty five Bridge, Congress Bridge, First Street Bridge,

728
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,199
Lamar Bridge, Mopack.

729
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 4: Bridge, and all these segments of the lake have a

730
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,480
uniquely different feel to them.

731
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,199
Speaker 5: But sometimes when you walk over, literally feel like you're

732
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,719
crossing over.

733
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 4: Some sort of domain into a different domain.

734
00:40:05,599 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: Right.

735
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 5: I found that the explanation it says Silicon Laboratories is

736
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,760
an industry leader in the innovation of high performance analog

737
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:21,239
intensive mixed signal. I sees, right, so that's right there

738
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,719
and that sort of dish right like right there between

739
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:31,320
those buildings. But uh uh, it's very weird, right like

740
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,400
the way that the lake feels like like when I'm

741
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,840
on the trail, it's kind of like a different flavor

742
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,000
every day. Like some days that you know, you see

743
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,760
Some days everybody's acting weird.

744
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 4: Some days everybody's walking with a funny gate.

745
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:48,119
Speaker 5: Some days everyone's really attractive. Other days people are all

746
00:40:48,159 --> 00:40:51,480
fucking ugly. Sometimes like every child is crying. Right, Like,

747
00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:55,119
it almost seems like a slightly different place every day,

748
00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:57,840
and I exercise on the trail almost every day since

749
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:02,000
I've been living here again since twenty one.

750
00:41:02,199 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 4: Right.

751
00:41:03,559 --> 00:41:07,079
Speaker 2: One of the things that interested me, and when when

752
00:41:07,199 --> 00:41:10,760
was that episode you sent me? When did you record that, the.

753
00:41:10,639 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 4: One that I see you the other day?

754
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was probably recorded either early in twenty twenty

755
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:19,239
four or late in twenty twenty three.

756
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 2: Okay, now, because you mentioned me in that episode and

757
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:29,280
you talk about the the Pythagorean palace idea, and one

758
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,559
of the interesting things, right, because we mentioned West World

759
00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:34,639
and this idea of when the main character I forget

760
00:41:34,679 --> 00:41:36,760
his name, when he doesn't see the door, and that

761
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,679
when when she said that, that really like clicked in me.

762
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:44,320
Where right, That's that shows you how the system works.

763
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,440
Is only the initiated and this is directly off of

764
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,920
the book Pythagora and Palaces. Only the initiated know where

765
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,119
the secret doors are, so only those that are able

766
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,000
to see the ones that are initiated in the mysteries. Yeah,

767
00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:02,400
there you go. That's the book that set all this.

768
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,079
And he's got other great books too, By the way,

769
00:42:05,159 --> 00:42:07,039
I have all of them. He's probably one of my

770
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:11,840
favorite authors. And he wrote a lot about even he

771
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,679
wrote about the homunculus too in some of the his

772
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,320
In his book Falling in Love with Statues, he writes

773
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:22,039
about pygmillion and the concept of animating statues and all

774
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:24,920
this other stuff. Frankenstein. And one of the interesting things

775
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,639
that she said that really click for me was he

776
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,320
was the character in that show right where I forgot

777
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,519
at the end of what season when you start to

778
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:38,000
realize that he's actually one of them, one of the robots. Yeah,

779
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,719
and they're like, hey, do you see the door? He's like,

780
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,559
what door? So I think that a lot of these

781
00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:45,559
places are like that, Like what if you're not tuned

782
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,400
to whatever frequency or whatever it is, or the lake

783
00:42:49,519 --> 00:42:52,599
is not at the right level, and it's like, hey,

784
00:42:52,679 --> 00:42:56,679
you can't see the doors because you're not there yet,

785
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,199
or you're not one of them whoever them are, or

786
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,280
you don't have the correct wiring in your brain right.

787
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:08,199
So maybe the people who have like today, I am

788
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,400
working on a well, I have an idea for a

789
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:15,519
documentary and I pulled the police reports of one of

790
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:19,159
the main stories that cited for the thing that I

791
00:43:19,199 --> 00:43:24,960
want to talk about, and they painted it as it

792
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,199
was a dui and that the guy was screaming about right,

793
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,199
that the Boogeyman made him crash, but he was arrested

794
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,960
for being under the influence, and the repolice report and

795
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,559
everything this kind of says like the police officer smelled

796
00:43:39,639 --> 00:43:42,480
like alcohol in his breath, but they never did a

797
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,639
breathalyzer on him. It's just going strictly based off of

798
00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:48,320
what the police report says. And I mean, let's be real,

799
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,119
you can make it say whatever you want, Like if

800
00:43:51,159 --> 00:43:53,079
you want to get a conspiratory you can make anything

801
00:43:53,119 --> 00:43:56,119
say whatever you want. Let's call it. The powers that

802
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,199
be are holding the truth back and they're making this

803
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,159
guy seem and it could have actually been the Boogeyman

804
00:44:02,199 --> 00:44:05,639
that made him crash, or he could have just been drunk, right,

805
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,480
and that could have made him crash. But it goes

806
00:44:09,519 --> 00:44:12,159
back to this concept of these people in society that

807
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,320
we look down on who will maybe have a key

808
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,880
to the answer, but they're disregarded because they're too crazy,

809
00:44:20,119 --> 00:44:22,920
or their their appearance puts you off, or their smell

810
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,719
or whatever it is right, because they've been put in

811
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,440
that position. Because I've always said that reality is we're

812
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:33,239
all hallucinating together, but we all agree on it, and

813
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,679
until one person steps out of that disagree, you know,

814
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,559
disagrees with no. No, no, My reality isn't that it's this,

815
00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:40,440
this and this or I can't remember this city? Well,

816
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,000
why is this city different this time around? What if

817
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,360
they're telling the truth? Why what if they're they're saying

818
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,000
something right? I mean, or let's take it a step above.

819
00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:54,960
What if any three letter agency could be hitting them

820
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,280
with a sort of technology voice to skull or something

821
00:44:58,360 --> 00:44:59,960
or other to test it out. You don't think that

822
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:03,760
they're every now and again testing some sort of beam out.

823
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,800
I mean, they've talked about having the tech to make

824
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,159
when they were at war, you know, make them feel

825
00:45:10,159 --> 00:45:12,280
all warm and fuzzy, or make them feel like a

826
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,360
law is talking to them or whatever and telling them

827
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,639
to do something. I mean, what a better way? And

828
00:45:16,679 --> 00:45:19,599
I think that religion itself. I was talking about hypnotism

829
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,800
a little bit ago with Longo and how I think

830
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,079
religion is a form of hypnotism to put people with

831
00:45:28,159 --> 00:45:31,719
sedates people and it makes them believe crazy. It can

832
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,239
makes them believe crazy. You can talk about the homunculus

833
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,519
and all that, but then you'll believe. But if your

834
00:45:36,559 --> 00:45:39,719
religion says that dragons are real, you'll believe that one

835
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,920
book from that one religion because you're a part of

836
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,000
that religion. What's the difference.

837
00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 4: So a couple of things. When we were talking about

838
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:49,719
the doors and.

839
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 5: Not seeing the doors, there's a really it's like, sounds

840
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,280
silly because it's like a kid's movie, but it's actually

841
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:54,719
really good.

842
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,199
Speaker 4: It's called The Portable Door. That is interesting.

843
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 5: And then there's a very famous book that I own

844
00:46:00,559 --> 00:46:04,239
but I've never read, called The Doors of Perception, right,

845
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,880
And when you were talking, for some reason, that.

846
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 4: Was coming to my mind. And then uh, as far

847
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,760
as what the what you were just saying about, whether

848
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,519
there really was some kind of entity, or whether someone's

849
00:46:19,519 --> 00:46:22,840
fucked up, or whether the CIA is doing weapons. One

850
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:23,639
of the things that.

851
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:26,559
Speaker 5: I am very certain about that is going on in

852
00:46:26,599 --> 00:46:31,239
downtown Austin is that it's become a like a mixed

853
00:46:31,639 --> 00:46:35,599
reality area in downtown Austin. In a certain corridor in

854
00:46:35,639 --> 00:46:39,119
the city, like it's becoming gamified really quickly.

855
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,079
Speaker 2: Emily. Think about what you just said, right, that these

856
00:46:42,159 --> 00:46:46,280
large cities are becoming these perhaps testing areas, and this

857
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,719
is this perhaps why all these cities they've approved recreational drugs,

858
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,199
such as Portland, Portland, and they're testing out.

859
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, so this is okay.

860
00:46:58,599 --> 00:47:03,519
Speaker 5: So there are certain areas of downtown Austin where I

861
00:47:03,639 --> 00:47:09,519
have completely different experiences there when I am on drugs

862
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,280
like mushrooms or something than I have in other areas

863
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,719
when I'm on them or in a different city or

864
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:16,440
whatever it is.

865
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 4: And it's like the same every time. In this area

866
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,679
of downtown Austin, right, some of the people don't look

867
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,800
real to me, Like they look like they're not like okay,

868
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:31,079
so imagine remember like when we were in COVID people

869
00:47:31,159 --> 00:47:34,280
were wearing masks. We were talking about whether like facial

870
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,880
recognition software could still tell I will see people in

871
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,239
a nightclub where I can only see the top part

872
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,239
of their face and the lower part of their face

873
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,000
is like green screen or black, and it's not all

874
00:47:47,039 --> 00:47:50,039
the people, it's just some of the people. It's almost

875
00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:52,679
like some of the people are really there and some

876
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,679
are not. And they're like not rendering completely. I've talked

877
00:47:55,679 --> 00:47:58,400
about this several times on shows. There's like one club

878
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,320
in particular that like like that's like the main theme

879
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,360
of every sort of experience that I've had. There is

880
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,000
this sort of weird experience with either missing features on

881
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:11,840
people or extra features like you could see someone's like

882
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,159
weird fucking ConTroll ears or some shit like that that

883
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,159
seems and I don't have that experience in Los Angeles,

884
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,440
or if I go to a different area of Austin

885
00:48:21,519 --> 00:48:22,280
and listen to the.

886
00:48:22,199 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 5: Same kind of music and do the same kind of

887
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,760
drugs or whatever it is. Right, So, yes, micro dosing

888
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:33,480
is being encouraged, like recreational drugs are being legalized. And

889
00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:36,480
also in some of these areas downtowns, there's some weird

890
00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:39,599
fucking towers that aren't exactly five G towers, Like we

891
00:48:39,639 --> 00:48:43,440
don't know what these things are broadcasting. Also some areas

892
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,000
of Austin, and especially in an.

893
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 4: Area where a lot of these people have gone missing,

894
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,119
there's those weird purple lights in that corridor of downtown.

895
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,480
There are videos of some of the people who eventually

896
00:48:55,519 --> 00:48:57,679
ended up going missing and either not being found or

897
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,079
being found dead. Where you see that walking away from

898
00:49:01,159 --> 00:49:03,079
Rainy Street. One of the names that they give the

899
00:49:03,159 --> 00:49:04,920
serial killers, the Rainy Street Ripper.

900
00:49:05,199 --> 00:49:09,159
Speaker 5: Right, you see them leaving a bar and walking and

901
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:10,719
seeming like they're talking to.

902
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 4: Someone, but there's no one there. Well, what if they're

903
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,480
seeing someone? Right, Like, what if what if.

904
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:21,039
Speaker 5: They're seeing someone and that someone is luring them towards

905
00:49:21,039 --> 00:49:24,039
the lake, either with nefarious intent or they're like just

906
00:49:24,119 --> 00:49:27,360
walking with that person, but that person is like either

907
00:49:27,679 --> 00:49:30,400
literally not real or sort of like there's a blending

908
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,280
of dimension or something like that.

909
00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 4: Right. And you know if you go like looking.

910
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 5: Into some of the corporations, and you know, Austin is

911
00:49:42,039 --> 00:49:46,119
a place where technology and like militarized operations come together

912
00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:48,119
pretty efficiently, right.

913
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 4: And you know, there's.

914
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 5: Theories out there that the whoever's doing these killings is

915
00:49:53,079 --> 00:49:56,199
like part of some like weird you know, military cult

916
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,639
or there's all these different theories. But to me, it

917
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,960
keeps coming back to the fact that this area of

918
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,719
Austin has a natural phenomena being either some sort of

919
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:13,079
interdimensional or temporal gait or portal or something, right, and

920
00:50:13,119 --> 00:50:17,760
that there is technology at play in downtown Austin that

921
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:22,159
has turned it into on some level a gamified environment.

922
00:50:25,199 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 2: So I was driving on the Term Pike the other

923
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,079
day with my wife and we have a lot of

924
00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:36,920
those purple lights here in Florida, And the explanation that

925
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,880
they gave for it is that there was a defect

926
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,840
from the supplier, allegedly. But it's interesting because the color

927
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,360
purple is a non spectral color, and I've done the

928
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,679
alchemy of the color purple. You have Hans Blue, Hans Purple,

929
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,719
where I contemplated the concept of perhaps some sort of

930
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,840
consciousness transference technology in some sort of way. And what

931
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,039
we were saying about the color purple real quick about

932
00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:04,719
seeing things that aren't there, right, we think about imaginary friends.

933
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,920
We think about kids who see things that aren't there

934
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:13,440
because perhaps right the concept of their skull hasn't united together.

935
00:51:13,519 --> 00:51:16,079
You have the trephanation and the idea of having more

936
00:51:16,119 --> 00:51:18,360
oxygen to your brain. Well, this movie just recently came

937
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,880
out and I've been meaning to see because I believe

938
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,679
it's on Netflix, and I wanted to see it with

939
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,599
my kids, but my wife was kind of weeded out

940
00:51:26,119 --> 00:51:27,719
by it, and she was like, Oh, are you gonna

941
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,920
watch that with them? So I never did. But It's

942
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,519
a Harold and the Purple Crayon. Everything he draws is

943
00:51:33,559 --> 00:51:35,920
about to get real, and it's literally about this guy

944
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:41,159
who has a magic A young boy her lives inside

945
00:51:41,159 --> 00:51:44,679
a book. His magic purple crayon can make anything come

946
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,159
to life, including a strange moose and porcupine who he

947
00:51:47,199 --> 00:51:50,239
spends time with. Now an adult, hild continues to take

948
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,440
adventures one day that they just want to remind everyone.

949
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,440
Make sure to check out the show on Patreon, Patreon

950
00:51:55,519 --> 00:51:59,239
dot com, slash the Juan on one podcast. I constantly

951
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,760
get emails. Oh only one episode a week. Yeah, one

952
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,360
episode a week for the public, but for as little

953
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Speaker 2: Narator, whom Harold refers to as old Man right almost

981
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:47,079
like this Skydaddy type of thing, mysteriously disappears. Determined to

982
00:53:47,079 --> 00:53:50,880
find him, Harold draws a door to the real world,

983
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,800
followed by Moose. In the real world, herald and a

984
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,079
now human moose look for the old man whom Harold

985
00:53:58,119 --> 00:54:04,920
believes is his father. So what an interesting concept, right?

986
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,199
Speaker 5: So I think the things that we think people are

987
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,519
seeing that aren't really there. I think they're really there,

988
00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:11,960
we just can't see them, right, And I think that

989
00:54:12,039 --> 00:54:14,400
some And this is where we start to cross paths

990
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,199
with the way that they've pathologized this skill and called

991
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:23,440
it schizophrenia or a neurological disorder. That I see it

992
00:54:23,519 --> 00:54:26,480
now at this point as like the entirety of our

993
00:54:26,679 --> 00:54:31,679
environment whatever, if you think we live in uh under affirment,

994
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,840
if you think space exists, if you think space is

995
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,920
fake and gay, whatever, it is, the whole area. Everything

996
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:43,360
is packed with information, and some of us have different

997
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,199
ways of decoding light, like sort of processing light that

998
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,280
allow us to see different bands of it. And some

999
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,679
of this has to do with our eyes, and some

1000
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,119
of it has to do with our metabolism and our genetics,

1001
00:54:55,159 --> 00:54:58,960
all different kinds of things. But the environment is literally

1002
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,840
packed with information, and we are tuned into very thin

1003
00:55:02,559 --> 00:55:06,199
bands of it. Some people have a more flexible range.

1004
00:55:06,599 --> 00:55:09,199
Some people can keep track of all of that, and

1005
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,840
others don't or aren't able to and the ones that

1006
00:55:12,199 --> 00:55:16,199
don't seem to be able to prioritize the sort of

1007
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,159
things into the proper dimensional order get called schizophrenic or

1008
00:55:20,159 --> 00:55:22,079
bipolar or whatever it is.

1009
00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 4: Right.

1010
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,599
Speaker 5: But you said Hans blue and Hans purple, right, So

1011
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:33,320
literally these pigments tyree in blue right. Almand Hillman calls

1012
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,320
the drug that people were taking in the Ellusinian mystery

1013
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,000
the burning purple.

1014
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:38,599
Speaker 4: Right.

1015
00:55:39,079 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 5: So this is something that's like being applied to their

1016
00:55:42,039 --> 00:55:44,440
eyes so that they can see and be.

1017
00:55:44,519 --> 00:55:50,519
Speaker 4: Regenerated or whatever it is. Some people have this inside

1018
00:55:50,639 --> 00:55:53,079
their eyes. It's part of the pigmentation.

1019
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 5: They have something that equals that band so they'll be

1020
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:01,159
able to see it naturally. And it's called cryptochromes. It's

1021
00:56:01,159 --> 00:56:04,599
in bird's eyes as well. Don't look just look up

1022
00:56:04,679 --> 00:56:09,280
cryptochromes in the eye. Like Alison mcdowllas sent me an

1023
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:14,039
article about birds that use these cryptochromes to locate things, right,

1024
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,039
by absorbing proteins in the eye that play a role

1025
00:56:17,079 --> 00:56:22,320
in circadium rhythm and magnetic field sensing. There's also lipid

1026
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,880
deposits in the eyes that have a correlation with schizophrenia,

1027
00:56:27,039 --> 00:56:32,920
and they are unsure whether schizophrenia causes the lipid deposits,

1028
00:56:33,039 --> 00:56:35,760
or whether the lipid deposits quote cause schizophrenia.

1029
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,039
Speaker 4: I think it's probably neither.

1030
00:56:37,079 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 5: I think they're just related, and that the people who

1031
00:56:39,039 --> 00:56:42,079
have these lipid deposits and these cryptochromes can see the.

1032
00:56:42,039 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 4: Other shit and the other people can't. But it doesn't

1033
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,960
mean it's not there, right.

1034
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 5: And instead of you know, helping these people to be

1035
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,360
able to differentiate between what everyone else can see and

1036
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,239
not see versus what all the things you see, they

1037
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,840
just give them drugs and send them to a mental

1038
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,239
institution and whatever it is. But the things they're seeing

1039
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,000
are consistent, and there they're talking about the same shit

1040
00:57:05,119 --> 00:57:07,840
all the time. They're not like telling one story one

1041
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,800
day and a different story another day.

1042
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 4: Like you have these people that like, I mean, have

1043
00:57:13,079 --> 00:57:15,239
you ever listened to like some of the people that

1044
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,159
we call crazy, And what they're talking about, they're talking

1045
00:57:17,199 --> 00:57:18,760
about the same shit you and I are talking about it.

1046
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,119
They're just doing it on the street corner and alien

1047
00:57:21,239 --> 00:57:23,039
top of their lungs, and we're doing it on fucking

1048
00:57:23,079 --> 00:57:24,639
Patreon for five dollars a month.

1049
00:57:28,199 --> 00:57:30,599
Speaker 2: It's true, were the same?

1050
00:57:31,039 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, uh so okay, but these like we process light

1051
00:57:36,559 --> 00:57:40,800
differently based on what is inside of our eyes, or

1052
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:41,280
maybe this.

1053
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,719
Speaker 5: Gets into pineal gland and they're being like a crystal

1054
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,599
in there or some sort of you know, optical device type.

1055
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:52,039
Speaker 4: Of thing in there. This also gets into like weirdly

1056
00:57:52,239 --> 00:57:56,639
like metabolism and the way your organs process information and

1057
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,960
nutrients and minerals and all kinds of weird stuff. But

1058
00:58:01,719 --> 00:58:06,400
what layers of the code you're able to see or

1059
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,840
to make sense of seem to be correlated to these ideas.

1060
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,599
Right here, there is one place in Austin that has

1061
00:58:13,639 --> 00:58:16,920
those purple lights, and it's right in the corridor where

1062
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,360
the most amount of the people have gone missing.

1063
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 2: So if we go back and look at the etymology

1064
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:31,360
of schizophrenia, it's literally a splitting of the mind from

1065
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:39,400
German schizophreni or coined by Swiss psychiatrist Eugene Buehler Bleueler,

1066
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:46,159
Bueler right, Bueler, Yeah, right, I have blue from Latini's

1067
00:58:46,199 --> 00:58:51,119
form of Greek schision to split. So it's literally heart

1068
00:58:51,159 --> 00:58:56,199
in my friend heart mind. So literally schizoid resembling schizophrenia

1069
00:58:56,239 --> 00:59:00,239
but less severe from nineteen twenty five and and then

1070
00:59:00,239 --> 00:59:02,719
it comes here, so you're literally, right, So you're speaking

1071
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,360
about the eye, which I never heard about this before.

1072
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,199
So I mean, use your imagination when it comes to

1073
00:59:09,239 --> 00:59:14,280
any of this. Sometimes seeing is not always believing, but

1074
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,840
sometimes it is, right. I mean that that's that's the thing,

1075
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:21,159
because when you speak about any conspiracy or anything, it's like,

1076
00:59:21,199 --> 00:59:23,559
oh what, what what will it take for you to believe?

1077
00:59:23,599 --> 00:59:25,840
It's like, I got to see it myself. Well, but

1078
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,760
then when you get it on video or something nowadays,

1079
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,679
they'll be like, oh, that's a deep fake or something

1080
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,480
or other. You can't that can't be trusted.

1081
00:59:32,559 --> 00:59:36,559
Speaker 5: Right, So maybe this is a good place to pivot

1082
00:59:36,679 --> 00:59:38,800
into what else we're going to talk about, which is,

1083
00:59:39,159 --> 00:59:41,920
you know, some of your idea about the imagine old

1084
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:45,159
theater and whatnot. When I was listening to your video,

1085
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:51,519
you brought up something called a perspective glass, right, that

1086
00:59:51,599 --> 00:59:55,199
you had these guys who were trying to use this

1087
00:59:55,360 --> 01:00:00,480
perspective glass or a perspective lens, right in order to

1088
01:00:00,639 --> 01:00:06,840
more accurately reconstruct or rediagram the globe theater, right.

1089
01:00:08,079 --> 01:00:13,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, the most famous theater and right, and speaking of

1090
01:00:13,039 --> 01:00:17,840
William Shakespeare because this kind of ties into this phrase

1091
01:00:18,079 --> 01:00:20,679
kind of takes on a different meaning when you're when

1092
01:00:20,679 --> 01:00:23,519
we're talking about all this stuff right to be or

1093
01:00:23,519 --> 01:00:28,559
not to be? And right, Hamlet contemplates death and suicide.

1094
01:00:28,639 --> 01:00:30,840
But think how that links into all the stuff that

1095
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,760
we've been talking about. Yeah, right, where? And I'm not

1096
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,360
saying do any of this stuff just for the sake

1097
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,199
of conversation, right, some people feel out of place, blah

1098
01:00:40,199 --> 01:00:42,440
blah blah. Could you know, I'm just thinking outside the

1099
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,000
box when it comes to this sort of thing. But

1100
01:00:44,599 --> 01:00:46,559
to be or not to be takes on a whole

1101
01:00:46,559 --> 01:00:49,519
different meaning for me. And it has to do with right,

1102
01:00:49,599 --> 01:00:52,639
William Shakespeare and the Globe Theater, one of the most

1103
01:00:52,639 --> 01:00:56,639
famous theaters. But hey, there's one caveat. We don't have

1104
01:00:56,679 --> 01:00:58,760
any of the drawings, we don't have any of the records,

1105
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:03,559
and we've guessed as to what it looked like based

1106
01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:14,599
on two drawings of skylines. Okay, based on two different

1107
01:01:14,719 --> 01:01:20,559
drawings of skylines. They have reconstructed the Globe Theater, which

1108
01:01:21,159 --> 01:01:24,639
we don't know if it ever existed. And I did contemplate.

1109
01:01:25,639 --> 01:01:28,280
I said, hey, you know, I actually got a comment

1110
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,719
about this recently. I think it was today. I'm going

1111
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,480
to look at it now. Where I was like you know,

1112
01:01:34,519 --> 01:01:38,119
and that's when I presented the aspect of it being

1113
01:01:38,199 --> 01:01:42,239
imaginal and not ever really being real and whatever it was,

1114
01:01:43,079 --> 01:01:46,199
because it was it's just so bizarre what they were doing.

1115
01:01:46,239 --> 01:01:49,199
They were having like these battles because they were doing

1116
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:53,480
private plays behind closed doors. Who were they doing the

1117
01:01:53,519 --> 01:01:56,840
place for? Why were they battling each other as to

1118
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,280
who could build the biggest theater, the baddest theater, the

1119
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:04,920
x y z and em Pythagoreaan palaces? Right, it's a

1120
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:10,639
war of the homunculi, because the batter of your building,

1121
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,039
the more doors or the more windows, or the more

1122
01:02:13,119 --> 01:02:17,840
rooms or the more whatever, showed your power. Right that

1123
01:02:18,039 --> 01:02:21,280
the buildings were their homuncula. I mean, that's history. They

1124
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,840
called it their homunculi. So they have these, in my opinion,

1125
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,480
these supernatural and if you think of the what they

1126
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,920
call them Thespians, you know, and all this community. So

1127
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:36,039
let me read that that the comment that I got,

1128
01:02:36,079 --> 01:02:39,480
because it plays directly into this here of what we're

1129
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:44,519
talking about. Let me see how I can find it. Anyways, continue,

1130
01:02:44,559 --> 01:02:45,400
I'll find it here.

1131
01:02:45,679 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 4: Okay. So around the time you were talking about that

1132
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:53,079
in your video, though, you also brought up these perspective glasses, right,

1133
01:02:53,239 --> 01:02:56,679
Like what if they were using these glasses to sort

1134
01:02:56,679 --> 01:03:00,760
of either peer into another version of.

1135
01:03:00,719 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 5: The same place, maybe at a different time or on

1136
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:08,679
a different dimension, or to look at to intentionally offered

1137
01:03:08,679 --> 01:03:12,119
a different perspective, Like you know, when you see in

1138
01:03:12,159 --> 01:03:13,320
those glasses.

1139
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 4: They're like red orange.

1140
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 5: They come a whole set of different colors, and with

1141
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,920
each one you can see sort of different features of

1142
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,599
the environment or more highlighted.

1143
01:03:20,719 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 4: Some people like where those red goggles to look for UFOs.

1144
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,559
Speaker 5: Or whatever it is, Right, you can see things with

1145
01:03:26,679 --> 01:03:29,599
certain lenses that you can't see with other lenses. It's

1146
01:03:29,639 --> 01:03:32,880
true about cameras, right, So when they were talking about

1147
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:37,440
this device, this perspective glass that they were using to

1148
01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:41,280
do this, like you know, a it would be really

1149
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,800
interesting if some people's eyes do that naturally, or if

1150
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,360
you can train your eyes to do that. Of course,

1151
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:52,639
there's always devices. I'm going to offer you a little

1152
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,440
tease here of you know where I'm going to be

1153
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,960
going with the great work I told you about, But

1154
01:03:58,039 --> 01:04:02,519
I'm going to be taking a look at the subprojects

1155
01:04:02,519 --> 01:04:06,159
of mk Ultra one hundred and forty nine known ones

1156
01:04:06,199 --> 01:04:10,599
with documents from a completely different perspective, like just completely

1157
01:04:10,639 --> 01:04:14,239
back away from all the stories we already know about

1158
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,960
it and go into it with like what else could

1159
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,599
be true about the same sets of information?

1160
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:20,119
Speaker 4: Right?

1161
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 5: And one of the things that I discovered one day

1162
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,920
as I've been prepping myself for this and whatnot, and

1163
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:28,920
I was actually just looking at it again yesterday, so

1164
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,679
I remembered the exact same like term here.

1165
01:04:33,079 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 4: One project, one of the projects. Listen to this, tell

1166
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:38,119
me what this sounds like?

1167
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:39,519
Speaker 2: Oh the way the comment is gone?

1168
01:04:39,719 --> 01:04:46,679
Speaker 4: So okay. Services related to certain physical studies which are

1169
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:52,519
required to develop effective materials which will influence the central

1170
01:04:52,599 --> 01:04:58,039
nervous system. The project also supported studies on the optical

1171
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:02,239
rotary power of solid and liquid crystals.

1172
01:05:05,239 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 5: What sounds like they were trying to build some sort

1173
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,679
of perspective.

1174
01:05:11,159 --> 01:05:14,599
Speaker 2: Glass, like the Dark Crystal movie. You've ever seen that movie?

1175
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,519
Speaker 4: I haven't seen that movie, but a lot of people

1176
01:05:16,519 --> 01:05:17,559
bring it up all the time.

1177
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 2: I think it was purple too.

1178
01:05:19,079 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 4: And when I'm mistaken, right, you know, I don't know,

1179
01:05:22,599 --> 01:05:23,199
like what.

1180
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,559
Speaker 5: I spent a lot of time looking into sonics and

1181
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:28,119
optics and sound and light and all this kind of stuff,

1182
01:05:28,119 --> 01:05:32,000
and there's all kinds of weird lenses and crystals and

1183
01:05:32,079 --> 01:05:34,320
optical devices and things like that.

1184
01:05:34,679 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 2: There you go, because I think Netflix just did revample

1185
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:45,960
this one recently interesting and yeah, interesting movie right too.

1186
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:47,920
And it's got that purple ish glo. It's got like

1187
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,480
the weird looking just like the burning purple exactly. So

1188
01:05:51,559 --> 01:05:55,800
I think that the purple is a it's a key

1189
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,239
to write the purple portal. And so, yeah, the dark

1190
01:05:59,239 --> 01:06:04,760
Crystal Age of Resistance, like it's all purple looking here.

1191
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,159
And you got the architecture too, which plays a role

1192
01:06:08,199 --> 01:06:10,880
into that. And I think right that the the so

1193
01:06:11,119 --> 01:06:16,760
was by Netflix. Yeah, the concept of like whenever you'd

1194
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:25,280
hear HP Lovecraft talk about non Euclidean architecture, right, And

1195
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:29,559
whenever I think of like non Euclidean architecture, I think

1196
01:06:29,599 --> 01:06:32,719
of like these alien worlds of some sort, right, because

1197
01:06:32,719 --> 01:06:34,559
he you know, he's speaking of like, oh, I see

1198
01:06:34,559 --> 01:06:37,239
this angle that's up tuce but not quite in an

1199
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,320
acute angle that's not quite there, and it feels like

1200
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:43,000
it's like like inception, it's it's all moving together. And

1201
01:06:43,039 --> 01:06:47,639
I recently had had a dream where in the dream

1202
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:53,920
I was told that when you read something, it changes,

1203
01:06:54,639 --> 01:06:59,000
and in this dream I read, so I was on

1204
01:06:59,199 --> 01:07:02,880
it was weird. Was on you know, like fun spot

1205
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,719
where you have like those the kids go carts that

1206
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,599
are on a track. They can't get off the track

1207
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,280
and they're just like kind of slammering. So it was

1208
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:12,960
like kind of like that, but we were on like

1209
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:17,559
these little four wheelers and I was on the four wheeler,

1210
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,639
and on the four wheel like any any ATV, there's

1211
01:07:21,719 --> 01:07:23,920
usually a sticker on there that says like no off

1212
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,239
road or anything like you can't operate this on a

1213
01:07:27,239 --> 01:07:31,519
public way. And in this dream, I remember looking up

1214
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,599
looking down at the side of it and I saw

1215
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:40,119
the sticker where it said limited limited to fifteen miles

1216
01:07:40,159 --> 01:07:43,000
per hour one second. And then when I read it

1217
01:07:43,039 --> 01:07:46,440
again because I'm I found myself like, oh, I'm reading

1218
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,079
in my dream like I could. I was like, I

1219
01:07:48,079 --> 01:07:50,239
got to read it again. When I went to go

1220
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:55,880
read it again, it looked like like Mandalorian, like kind

1221
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,159
of a Nochian type of way, like it shifted in

1222
01:07:58,199 --> 01:08:01,320
front of it was like liquid in front of me,

1223
01:08:01,679 --> 01:08:04,239
and it changed and I couldn't read it again. And

1224
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:05,920
it reminds me of like that one time that I

1225
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,880
was on mushrooms and my keyboard. When I looked down

1226
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:14,360
at my keyboard, my keyboard number one I had, I

1227
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,079
had six fingers in each hand. So every time I

1228
01:08:16,119 --> 01:08:18,000
would look at my hands, i'd see a six finger

1229
01:08:18,039 --> 01:08:19,439
and I'd be like, well, you know what's going on.

1230
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,880
I was freaking out and I looked at I would

1231
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,680
look at my keyboard, and my keyboard was endless. Like

1232
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,000
my keyboard every time I looked at it, it's like

1233
01:08:28,039 --> 01:08:30,399
I had. It was like I was zooming in and

1234
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,159
I could look all the way this way and it

1235
01:08:32,199 --> 01:08:35,199
was all keys, and then I could I would freak

1236
01:08:35,239 --> 01:08:36,760
out go back, and then as soon as I would

1237
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,159
look at it again, I'd kind of zoom in and

1238
01:08:38,239 --> 01:08:40,399
look all the way that way, and my keyboard was endless,

1239
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:44,640
and all the keys were like alien like. They were

1240
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,880
like you know Promethean where the Prometheus way Alien movie

1241
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,520
where it's like all this weird symbols. It was like

1242
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,760
that for me, and I was I was freaking out.

1243
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,239
I was like, what is all this? You know, like

1244
01:08:54,319 --> 01:08:55,399
I couldn't figure it out?

1245
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 4: All right, couple of things if this is making me

1246
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,359
think is out. So first of all, you say you

1247
01:09:00,399 --> 01:09:02,239
saw like a sixth finger. This is when you were

1248
01:09:02,239 --> 01:09:06,039
on Mushrooms, right. Yeah, Okay, so I was telling you

1249
01:09:06,119 --> 01:09:08,319
about that club where when I go there and I'm

1250
01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:12,159
on mushrooms, like I see extra features on people like people, right,

1251
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,079
So that sounds kind of like that.

1252
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:18,560
Speaker 5: And then your your extra sort of keyboard and the

1253
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,520
fact that it's like endlessly long, I think, is you know,

1254
01:09:22,359 --> 01:09:26,960
sort of some kind of idea that like that there,

1255
01:09:27,039 --> 01:09:29,159
And you said that something about it being a Nochian Well,

1256
01:09:29,159 --> 01:09:30,079
a Nookian.

1257
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 4: Chest is when you take the game off the board.

1258
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 5: So when the music continues past the normal keys, or

1259
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,520
when the characters are past the normal keys, right, it's

1260
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,680
like taking everything out of the confined space.

1261
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,359
Speaker 4: You normally do that in and move it over. The

1262
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:47,119
other thing I'm thinking about is when you there's a

1263
01:09:47,159 --> 01:09:49,720
book called The Keys of Eoch. I don't know if

1264
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:54,239
you've ever read it. Probably it proposes some interesting ideas.

1265
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,119
Speaker 5: But my friend Danny Goehler, who we talked about when

1266
01:09:57,119 --> 01:09:58,600
you were on my show a few weeks ago, the

1267
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:03,960
guy with the d MT and laser, right, he when

1268
01:10:04,119 --> 01:10:10,000
the way he describes the code is not completely unlike that, right,

1269
01:10:10,199 --> 01:10:13,800
And I think that you know, he's basically saying you

1270
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:17,600
put a small dose of DMT and you shine this

1271
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,920
red diffracted laser at a surface, and you will see

1272
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,960
this code. Well, what would happen if you did a

1273
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,359
different dose or a different drug, or you used a

1274
01:10:26,359 --> 01:10:29,039
different kind of light or a different kind of optical device.

1275
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 4: Would you see.

1276
01:10:31,119 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 5: Like another version like whatever that code says, whatever those

1277
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,399
codes mean, would you see the thing that it means?

1278
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:40,279
Like if the code says the dog is brown, would

1279
01:10:40,319 --> 01:10:41,960
you see a brown dog.

1280
01:10:42,119 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 4: There on a different drug or with a different light

1281
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:49,159
or whatever? It is? Right? You know, And just this

1282
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,439
back to what I was telling you about everything being

1283
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:55,520
full of information, and it's just are we able.

1284
01:10:55,239 --> 01:10:57,560
Speaker 5: To see it? And if we see it, what are

1285
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,039
we perceiving it as?

1286
01:11:00,119 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 4: Right? Did you watch that movie, the chess movie, The

1287
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:07,520
Queen's Gambit, Yeah.

1288
01:11:07,359 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 2: Where she could see the series where she could see

1289
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,000
in the on the ceiling she was taking what was

1290
01:11:12,039 --> 01:11:13,600
adderall or something? She was taking something.

1291
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 5: She was taking her game off of the board and

1292
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:20,239
into her real life, which is what Anocchian chess actually is, right,

1293
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:25,079
And she was using this ability for her to externalize

1294
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,840
this sort of mental game of chess to help her

1295
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:33,600
figure out ways to like strategize with extra space and

1296
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,039
room and then bring that back into her game.

1297
01:11:36,399 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 2: That's the imaginal theater. That's the that's the memory theater

1298
01:11:40,039 --> 01:11:44,479
where you use it to train, you use it as

1299
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:48,399
a form of It's a mental gym essentially, is what

1300
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:50,359
it is. And I think that that has a lot

1301
01:11:50,399 --> 01:11:52,760
to do with the mysteries, and that kind of sort

1302
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:54,840
of hint at the mysteries, right because chess is the

1303
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,439
black and white, it's the you know, the game of

1304
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,000
thrones if you will, where you're going back and forth.

1305
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,199
And I think that right when you when you enter

1306
01:12:03,279 --> 01:12:08,680
a noki and chess, it's been described as that when

1307
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:12,439
you play in nocchi and chess, if you stare at

1308
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:17,760
the board for too long, that you will start to hallucinate.

1309
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,520
You will start to see things that aren't there. And

1310
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,319
I think it was Mather's the ones that played it

1311
01:12:24,399 --> 01:12:27,039
where he would play with a specter or a ghost

1312
01:12:27,199 --> 01:12:28,199
that was his partner.

1313
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,159
Speaker 4: Have you ever? It works. You can do it not

1314
01:12:32,359 --> 01:12:34,600
in the water, but it works better like in the

1315
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:38,920
hot bath or the hot shower or the jacuzzi. Rubbed

1316
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,800
your eyes hard and then watch visuals on the back

1317
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:42,199
your eyes.

1318
01:12:43,239 --> 01:12:45,319
Speaker 2: My wife hates it because I always rubbed my eyes

1319
01:12:45,359 --> 01:12:48,720
really heart and it makes like this squishing sound. She

1320
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:50,199
hates that I do that, But yeah, you can rub

1321
01:12:50,279 --> 01:12:54,199
your eyes and see another dimension, right, Okay, So for.

1322
01:12:54,239 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 5: Me, it always is a checkerboard floor, and then it

1323
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:04,560
goes into the most saturated psychedelic color visions of like

1324
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:05,800
other stuff.

1325
01:13:06,039 --> 01:13:06,239
Speaker 4: Right.

1326
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 5: There's actually a some people I go here at parties,

1327
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:12,600
like a group they're called like it's like a group

1328
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,439
of DJs. They call themselves Desert Hearts, but all of

1329
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,840
their flyers look exactly.

1330
01:13:17,359 --> 01:13:19,159
Speaker 4: Like the shit I see when I rub the back

1331
01:13:19,199 --> 01:13:22,199
of my eyes if I'm in hot water, especially right, So.

1332
01:13:22,119 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 5: They know about it too, right, and they're just good

1333
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,560
at creating the graphic designs for that kind of thing.

1334
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:33,119
But there's something about, you know, there's the dark, Like

1335
01:13:33,319 --> 01:13:36,600
there's the color spectrum from the like dark mode, and

1336
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,319
there's a color spectrum from the light mode, and it

1337
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:44,760
sort of renders the colors slightly differently. Right, Sometimes when

1338
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,600
I eat mushrooms and I close my eyes, I'm getting

1339
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:51,079
like light mode, which is like white with saturated colors

1340
01:13:51,119 --> 01:13:52,880
on it, And other times I get dark mode, so

1341
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,840
black with saturated colors on it, and the trips have

1342
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:59,560
distinctly different sort of feelings and vibes to them based

1343
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:01,960
upon whether it's in black mode or light mode.

1344
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:07,079
Speaker 2: Right, So I have something for you, and it's it's

1345
01:14:07,119 --> 01:14:12,159
relevant because you mentioned the matrix and the numbers never lie, Emily,

1346
01:14:12,399 --> 01:14:19,399
and the matrix equals thirty one in Jamatria and listen, listen,

1347
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:23,199
So the number the matrix, the matrix equals thirty one,

1348
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,439
and the numbers never lie because you know what also

1349
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,760
equals thirty one. Faking gay also equals thirty one. Therefore

1350
01:14:30,159 --> 01:14:36,439
the matrix is faking gay. So again, that's just what

1351
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,239
the numbers say. I'm not making this up. This is

1352
01:14:39,359 --> 01:14:42,640
you gotta listen to the numbers and the numbers never lie.

1353
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:46,439
But you know, I think that there is something to

1354
01:14:47,159 --> 01:14:50,399
even right rubbing your own eyes to see this other realm?

1355
01:14:51,159 --> 01:14:53,039
I mean what that that could have been a rich

1356
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,359
And doctors always tell you not to do that, right,

1357
01:14:56,359 --> 01:14:58,119
They tell you like, oh, that's bad for your eyes.

1358
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:02,039
You know, you could permanent damage your eyes. I'm maybe

1359
01:15:02,039 --> 01:15:04,640
you can't, like who knows, maybe you can damage the

1360
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:08,079
ducks and allever. But usually the stuff they tell you

1361
01:15:08,119 --> 01:15:10,920
not to do, it's for a reason. Now, I'm not saying,

1362
01:15:11,399 --> 01:15:13,880
you know, rub your eyes violently to enter another dimension.

1363
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:16,239
I'm not saying that, But I'm just saying, like, similar

1364
01:15:16,279 --> 01:15:18,520
to how they're talking about Ladybird Lake. Hey, you can't

1365
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:20,760
go swimming in there, you know, since the nineteen sixties

1366
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,960
because there's a daily bacter. But you can go paddle

1367
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:28,439
boarding on Lady Bird Lake, right, What what difference does

1368
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:28,720
it make?

1369
01:15:29,039 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 5: Also, like you fall in and you get back up

1370
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,640
on your paddle board, you don't go home with the

1371
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:34,640
deadly bacteria.

1372
01:15:35,239 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 4: Right. So the whole thing is crazy. The let's because

1373
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:42,920
I know you have a tight timing. I want to

1374
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:46,119
talk a little bit about this imaginal Theater and the

1375
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:49,600
Globe Theater and the Memory Palace, ask of it and

1376
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:50,680
all this kind of stuff.

1377
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 5: Okay, So first of all, my birthday is the same

1378
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:59,039
day that the original Globe Theater burned, right, And it

1379
01:15:59,119 --> 01:16:02,600
was weird to I was having a zoom chat with

1380
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:04,520
Alison McDowell.

1381
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:05,600
Speaker 4: I don't know if you know who she is.

1382
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 2: I've heard that before.

1383
01:16:07,119 --> 01:16:09,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, she has a researcher and whatnot. We were just

1384
01:16:09,199 --> 01:16:12,520
having a friend's chat.

1385
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,199
Speaker 5: We weren't doing a show, and I was telling her

1386
01:16:15,359 --> 01:16:17,000
about what you and I were going to talk about

1387
01:16:17,079 --> 01:16:21,399
a little bit tonight, right, And within the same conversation,

1388
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:25,239
she brings up someone who is.

1389
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 4: Sort of tangentially related to what.

1390
01:16:28,239 --> 01:16:30,079
Speaker 5: You and I are talking about, but from a completely

1391
01:16:30,079 --> 01:16:33,359
different perspective, which is hers, and his birthday is also

1392
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,239
June twenty ninth, right, So I'm coming on here with you.

1393
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,600
We discover that the GLO Original Globe Theater burned on

1394
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:40,439
June twenty ninth.

1395
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:42,520
Speaker 4: Someone she's bringing up the central to the story. She

1396
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:43,239
was trying to tell me.

1397
01:16:43,239 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 5: Their birthday is also June twenty ninth, and it was

1398
01:16:46,039 --> 01:16:48,439
a similar kind of thing we she and I were

1399
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:48,840
getting in.

1400
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 2: But I don't think let me add one warn there,

1401
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,039
because William Shakespeare died on April twenty third, which is

1402
01:16:55,039 --> 01:17:01,760
also my birthday, and the Cattle Lake episodeisode one of

1403
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:05,880
the dates of the that I pulled up on it

1404
01:17:06,039 --> 01:17:10,239
was one of the dates I think was like my birthday,

1405
01:17:10,359 --> 01:17:12,479
and then the other date I think that the person

1406
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,640
died was the birthday of my co host on that episode.

1407
01:17:16,119 --> 01:17:18,359
So it was like we had like a double boom boom.

1408
01:17:18,399 --> 01:17:20,680
He's like, that's my birthday, and I'm like, you know

1409
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:22,039
this is my birthday, So I thought this is weird.

1410
01:17:22,079 --> 01:17:24,359
He's like, well, the day the other day is my birthday.

1411
01:17:24,359 --> 01:17:26,359
So we had like a weird like synchronosity there.

1412
01:17:26,399 --> 01:17:31,079
Speaker 4: But yeah, okay, so uh. I don't think the globe

1413
01:17:31,119 --> 01:17:34,920
theater ever existed in the way people think of theaters existing.

1414
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:37,600
I think the globe theater.

1415
01:17:38,159 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 2: Is a.

1416
01:17:41,319 --> 01:17:44,279
Speaker 4: Congregation that meets outside.

1417
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,319
Speaker 5: Of the normal rules of space and time as the

1418
01:17:46,359 --> 01:17:48,560
average person understands them.

1419
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:50,159
Speaker 4: And it is.

1420
01:17:52,039 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 5: It has to do with geometry, it has to do

1421
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:59,199
with sound, it has to do with perspective, it has

1422
01:17:59,239 --> 01:18:02,039
to do with the elements, and it has to do

1423
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:06,279
with the archetypical nature of the characters of the play.

1424
01:18:07,399 --> 01:18:12,199
And this still happens, right, And there's other ways to

1425
01:18:12,279 --> 01:18:15,840
achieve this. And I think some of the experiences that

1426
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:20,079
I've been having at parties since about the mid two thousands,

1427
01:18:20,079 --> 01:18:23,159
maybe before that, but but I didn't notice it before

1428
01:18:23,199 --> 01:18:26,520
I didn't have the eyes to see, right, is.

1429
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:30,319
Speaker 4: Something like this. It's like, this doesn't happen at every party, right,

1430
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:34,960
but it's happened enough times that I will be at

1431
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:35,399
the party.

1432
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 5: It has to be a really good sound system, right,

1433
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:40,119
it has to be a fairly specific kind of music

1434
01:18:40,159 --> 01:18:43,159
and environment. I have to be in a specific sort

1435
01:18:43,199 --> 01:18:46,680
of state in mind and condition, and something will happen

1436
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:47,239
where like.

1437
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,239
Speaker 4: I end up in this same place that I've been.

1438
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:55,039
I've been in this place dating back to two thousand

1439
01:18:55,079 --> 01:18:57,840
and eight about where it seems like I am kind

1440
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,039
of It's not like.

1441
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 5: I travel like I feel like I go somewhere, it's

1442
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:06,920
like suddenly the room becomes something else, and you know,

1443
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:10,560
it's maybe like either a different set of people are

1444
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,720
kind of there, or I can see the people that

1445
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,520
are there from in a different light, like they look

1446
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,039
like someone else, and all the people they look like

1447
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:23,039
are what we would consider archetypes, right, And I've been

1448
01:19:23,079 --> 01:19:26,119
seeing some of these same people in this place for

1449
01:19:26,279 --> 01:19:29,439
more than ten, twelve, fourteen years now when I go

1450
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:34,800
to parties, and there's this feeling to it that never changes, right,

1451
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,239
like it feels exactly the same. It could happened to

1452
01:19:37,239 --> 01:19:39,880
me at the party where I saw the glowing thing

1453
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,000
that I told you for a little bit, and it

1454
01:19:42,039 --> 01:19:42,920
hadn't really.

1455
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,239
Speaker 4: Happens to me in that way in a long enough

1456
01:19:45,279 --> 01:19:47,760
time that I thought like whatever that was was over,

1457
01:19:48,319 --> 01:19:51,359
But like the way that it happened, it was like

1458
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,520
I was right back to that thing that I thought

1459
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,079
was never going to happen again, and all the same

1460
01:19:56,119 --> 01:20:00,279
things that ever happened there were happening again, right. And

1461
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:04,359
when I'm in that space, I see people who are

1462
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:06,960
like I mean trying to make sure I describe it

1463
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:10,039
in a way that I actually mean, that are like

1464
01:20:10,079 --> 01:20:12,279
they look like famous people. And part of the reason

1465
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:15,600
we have that famous people are famous is because they're

1466
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:20,079
archetypical in their nature, Like they bring up certain like

1467
01:20:20,159 --> 01:20:22,840
feelings in people. They look like someone from history.

1468
01:20:23,039 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 5: Oftentimes they'll look like whether it was a real or

1469
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:31,039
fable god or character from sort of ancient history or

1470
01:20:31,079 --> 01:20:35,399
antiquity or whatever it is. And sometimes I really think

1471
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:38,920
I'm looking at the famous person, or I'm recognizing that

1472
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,520
somebody looks like a famous person and I had never.

1473
01:20:42,359 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 4: Noticed that about them before. But once I see it

1474
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:47,399
in that space, then when I see them in the

1475
01:20:47,399 --> 01:20:49,880
regular world, if by like, oh yeah, I can see

1476
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:53,560
now there's something archetypical in them that I had not noticed.

1477
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:57,039
And when I saw them sort of in that space,

1478
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,840
that part of their character sort of came out.

1479
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,399
Speaker 5: And I think it has to do with sematics. Right,

1480
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,840
This never happens to me at parties that have a

1481
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,439
less than adequate sound system.

1482
01:21:08,199 --> 01:21:12,359
Speaker 4: Right. Obviously, most of the buildings that I'm going to parties,

1483
01:21:12,399 --> 01:21:14,159
and though not all of them, I've been to some

1484
01:21:14,319 --> 01:21:18,520
parties in really interesting buildings. They're just like warehouses. They're

1485
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,840
just plain boxes. But if I look at the ceiling sometimes,

1486
01:21:22,359 --> 01:21:26,680
or if I look at the scaffolding that the rigs for.

1487
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:30,199
Speaker 5: The lighting and the lasers and the optical shows and stuff,

1488
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:34,640
the scaffolding is in the kind of geometric design and

1489
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:38,880
proportions that would be equal to some of the architecture.

1490
01:21:39,239 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 4: And this is just about sort of marking out proportion. Right,

1491
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:46,640
Some of these lighting.

1492
01:21:46,359 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 5: Shows are pretty interesting in the technology that's being displayed

1493
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:56,079
and the ways it can make certain things look right.

1494
01:21:56,359 --> 01:21:59,319
I'm sure that there are other I'm sure this happens

1495
01:22:00,279 --> 01:22:04,399
with music, with acting, probably with comedy. I'm sure there's

1496
01:22:04,399 --> 01:22:07,760
technological ways of doing it. But I feel like there

1497
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:11,800
is this ability to create, just like I was talking

1498
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:13,960
about in that show that I sent you, Right, you

1499
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:18,079
can create a space to meet up outside of time,

1500
01:22:18,239 --> 01:22:20,920
opening up space outside of linear time.

1501
01:22:22,039 --> 01:22:23,600
Speaker 4: You can go and go.

1502
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 5: And you can be there and you can sort of

1503
01:22:26,199 --> 01:22:30,600
contribute to that ongoing project, whatever that is, whether it's

1504
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:33,880
a play, whether it's an art gallery, whether it's a symphony,

1505
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:34,960
whether it's a building.

1506
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 4: Right. And this is sort of the nature of all

1507
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:46,960
of these complexities or really interesting things that we don't

1508
01:22:47,119 --> 01:22:49,600
quite seem to understand. How it makes sense in the

1509
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:50,039
way we.

1510
01:22:50,079 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 5: Perceive space and time now, right, And I think it

1511
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:59,439
has to do with vibration and elements, right, And like

1512
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:01,439
what what you are?

1513
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 4: What elements? What like? And I'm talking about elements from

1514
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:07,319
the periodic table. I'm not really talking about earth, wind,

1515
01:23:07,399 --> 01:23:12,239
firewater or whatever it is, right, And what shapes these

1516
01:23:12,239 --> 01:23:17,720
things make, what archetypes they're associated with, how they adhere

1517
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:20,680
when they're being vibrated into place, and what causes them

1518
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:23,279
to sort of vent, like what makes them materialize and

1519
01:23:23,319 --> 01:23:24,279
de materialize.

1520
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:30,600
Speaker 5: I think there are temporary vibrational realities that materialize and

1521
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:34,960
de materialize, and more and more people are figuring out.

1522
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 4: How to do this, right everyone.

1523
01:23:37,039 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 5: People are using different techniques, some of them spirituals, some

1524
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,920
of the metaphysicals, some of the mathematical, some of them technological,

1525
01:23:43,039 --> 01:23:46,199
some of them scientific. Right, all this kind of stuff,

1526
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:51,119
and this is you know, part of why we're experiencing

1527
01:23:51,199 --> 01:23:54,119
some of the chaos we are, and also what really

1528
01:23:54,159 --> 01:23:57,560
what all of the secrecy is about. The secrecy and

1529
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:02,199
the weird stuff that you know, the circus show that

1530
01:24:02,239 --> 01:24:02,840
they give.

1531
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:05,319
Speaker 4: Us is to keep us.

1532
01:24:05,239 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 5: Focused on this sort of linear three D reality and

1533
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:14,800
not paying attention to the Swiss cheese that's all around us.

1534
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:19,319
Speaker 2: And speaking of Atlas Shrugged, I guess I haven't been

1535
01:24:19,359 --> 01:24:24,239
able to confirm this, but Elon Musk said very appealion

1536
01:24:24,239 --> 01:24:27,319
over a sophomore in college. It's a counterpoint to communism

1537
01:24:27,319 --> 01:24:30,960
and useful as such, but should be tempered with kindness

1538
01:24:31,319 --> 01:24:35,119
and twenty books Tesla Ceo Elon must wants you to read,

1539
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:40,279
and of course this was November nineteen, twenty twenty two.

1540
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:43,800
But yeah, you're absolutely right. I think that there is

1541
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:47,760
something to like the White Brotherhood type of thing. Yeah,

1542
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:51,039
where it's like these people again, the initiated that know

1543
01:24:51,079 --> 01:24:56,119
how to get there will meet up and it's almost

1544
01:24:56,199 --> 01:25:00,760
like the builde Berg or whatever they ca where, but

1545
01:25:01,039 --> 01:25:03,279
it's like a more esoteric version of that where they're

1546
01:25:03,319 --> 01:25:04,720
now meeting on this plane of existence.

1547
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 5: It's multi dimensional and omnidirectional. How you can access it

1548
01:25:09,159 --> 01:25:11,600
I also think that there's like a secret society that's

1549
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:15,239
called something like the Secret Spectral Order or something like

1550
01:25:15,279 --> 01:25:17,920
that that I'm pretty sure I've heard of something like that,

1551
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:23,000
Brotherhood of the Spectral Order or something.

1552
01:25:23,119 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 4: I've heard of it a couple of times in the

1553
01:25:25,079 --> 01:25:27,399
last year. I haven't had a chance to dig into it.

1554
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,319
I could be combining two separate ideas. If I'm doing that,

1555
01:25:30,399 --> 01:25:31,640
I'm not doing it intentionally.

1556
01:25:32,279 --> 01:25:38,640
Speaker 2: The spectral order organization in Luxegnore is that? Uh, I

1557
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:44,039
think that's from I think that's from a book. Yeah,

1558
01:25:44,199 --> 01:25:45,800
that's from a book. Yeah, it's from a book.

1559
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:50,239
Speaker 5: From Spectral Order is the lights and the family of

1560
01:25:50,399 --> 01:25:55,000
deviated rays that emerge after diffraction at the grading exhibit

1561
01:25:55,119 --> 01:26:00,439
pronounced maxima along well defined and innumerable directions on each

1562
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:04,359
side of an undeviated beam. The integers that distinguish these

1563
01:26:04,399 --> 01:26:07,680
directions mark the so called spectral order. That sounds a

1564
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,119
lot like what we've been talking about here tonight.

1565
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:16,520
Speaker 2: About to say something crazy, say something crazy, so because

1566
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:22,119
this came up on my timeline today and for a second,

1567
01:26:23,119 --> 01:26:27,359
even though atomic bomb equals thirty one as well, Yeah,

1568
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:32,960
check this out because this is really interesting. You're talking

1569
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:37,239
about stepping into other realms? How to step into other realms?

1570
01:26:37,399 --> 01:26:42,359
Technology two step into the realms three letter agencies or

1571
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:52,479
governmental entities using experimental technologies on unwilling participants to achieve

1572
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:55,640
an end goal of some sort. Right, what if for

1573
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:57,760
one second, all right, check this out because I found

1574
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,680
this really interesting. It's gonna be crazy. I know it's

1575
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:03,359
gonna it's gonna sound ridiculous, like it's it's.

1576
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:05,359
Speaker 4: I specialize in ridiculous.

1577
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:08,079
Speaker 2: This is gonna be kind of retarded. I'm just gonna

1578
01:27:08,079 --> 01:27:10,720
say this right now. Okay, but check this out because

1579
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:14,399
one of the interesting things that I saw were paintings

1580
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:21,359
that the atomic bombs UH survivors had painted. Okay, and

1581
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:29,319
some of the drawings are otherworldly. So I speculated that

1582
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:34,520
what if, okay, for one second, right, what if the

1583
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:38,039
right the atomic bomb isn't what they've told us we've

1584
01:27:38,079 --> 01:27:41,199
gone down that rabbit hole or the nuclear bomb or

1585
01:27:41,239 --> 01:27:45,760
whatever it is. But what if these people were suscepted

1586
01:27:46,159 --> 01:27:52,199
to some sort of intradimensional technology that the right so

1587
01:27:52,359 --> 01:27:55,520
flash at the inside, I saw a light like a rainbow.

1588
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:59,840
This is August sixth, nineteenth, nineteen forty five, age twenty

1589
01:28:00,119 --> 01:28:02,359
at the time, of bombing fortnite at the age of drawing.

1590
01:28:03,039 --> 01:28:06,079
And it's very dark some of these drawings. Right, they're

1591
01:28:06,079 --> 01:28:09,399
talking about a mother finding as there were maggots on

1592
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:13,640
her face, finding a place to bury her her dead

1593
01:28:14,039 --> 01:28:16,439
baby on her back. Right, she had to go somewhere,

1594
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:17,960
she was trying to cremate it, and she had to

1595
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,880
go very far to find would But I thought, for

1596
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,399
myself for one second, these people were seeing things out

1597
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:31,600
of this world. What if again, this is something that happening.

1598
01:28:33,279 --> 01:28:35,079
And if you think about it really quickly, if you

1599
01:28:35,119 --> 01:28:39,680
think about it, how Japan is kind of you know,

1600
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,439
grown men liking hello, kitty.

1601
01:28:42,319 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 4: Very murkami.

1602
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not saying this in a in a

1603
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:49,359
bad way, but very feminine in some sort of way, right,

1604
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:52,560
Like you don't really think Japanese people And I know

1605
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:55,399
this because my wife is half Japanese. Japanese people are

1606
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:57,840
very people pleasers, right. They kind of and I don't

1607
01:28:57,880 --> 01:28:59,159
want to say this in any sort of bad way,

1608
01:28:59,199 --> 01:29:00,680
but they kind of don't have a They don't stand

1609
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:02,600
up for themselves, right, Like they're very like, oh, okay,

1610
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:06,159
I'm sorry. You a very gentle, very quiet people. And again,

1611
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:10,359
my wife's half Japanese, and her family is full blown Japanese,

1612
01:29:10,399 --> 01:29:12,960
like her uncle's like mister Minoki, like full blown, like

1613
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:15,520
you know, wax on, wax off, wax on, wax off.

1614
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:17,760
But I thought for that for one second right here, though,

1615
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:20,880
three days later the burn bodies and the fire cistern

1616
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:24,800
had turned red like demons. I instinctly turned away, and

1617
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:28,039
I'm like, what if this is like like doom, right

1618
01:29:28,079 --> 01:29:30,000
when we open up a port and all the demons

1619
01:29:30,079 --> 01:29:30,800
come pouring in.

1620
01:29:31,359 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 5: Yep. I mean, I think that that is definitely to

1621
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:38,920
the extent, like we're not making any claims about the

1622
01:29:39,279 --> 01:29:42,560
existence or danger or whatever of any of these things, right,

1623
01:29:43,039 --> 01:29:49,920
But I think that everything around the concept of sort

1624
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:54,159
of atomic or nuclear power has a lot to do

1625
01:29:54,880 --> 01:30:00,399
with the different worlds, the different realities, and blending them

1626
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:02,680
or blowing them apart. When I say one on a part,

1627
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:05,000
I don't necessarily mean literally with the bomb, but like

1628
01:30:05,399 --> 01:30:07,520
you have a world, and if you separate it into

1629
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,520
like fractals, right, or if you have many worlds then

1630
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:12,760
you join them into one, right.

1631
01:30:13,119 --> 01:30:16,640
Speaker 4: I think it's really about something you know like that

1632
01:30:17,279 --> 01:30:23,720
and this Okay, So what you were talking in your

1633
01:30:24,399 --> 01:30:28,279
video about the battles between we're gonna build the biggest

1634
01:30:28,279 --> 01:30:29,520
building and the baddest building.

1635
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 5: We're gonna do a better play. Our play is gonna

1636
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:34,920
be better than yours. Our players, our actors or whatever

1637
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:38,239
it is, right, and each habit. It's like the different

1638
01:30:38,279 --> 01:30:41,119
theater groups are kind of like the different cults that

1639
01:30:41,239 --> 01:30:44,840
existed in antiquity, or in my case.

1640
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:47,720
Speaker 4: Like the different groups that throw parties. There's all of

1641
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:51,039
these different collectives that throw parties, and each one have

1642
01:30:51,239 --> 01:30:55,600
their own sort of style, their own sound, their own aesthetic. Right,

1643
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:57,560
they're all operating mostly.

1644
01:30:57,600 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 5: I go to parties in Los Angeles at this point, right,

1645
01:31:00,319 --> 01:31:04,119
but sometimes they come together and they do like a

1646
01:31:04,199 --> 01:31:08,920
project together, and there's like a blending of this, right,

1647
01:31:09,119 --> 01:31:11,840
and it's like a celebration. And one of these parties

1648
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:14,079
in Los Angeles that brings a bunch of groups together

1649
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:16,640
is literally called reform.

1650
01:31:17,199 --> 01:31:21,680
Speaker 4: Like we are reforming the theater or reforming the culture.

1651
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:24,239
We are reforming the group, or we are reforming the

1652
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:28,720
religion or the right, the ceremony, the ritual, or whatever

1653
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:31,359
it is. Right, let me see if this works.

1654
01:31:31,399 --> 01:31:34,359
Speaker 5: To show you a regular screen on my computer, because

1655
01:31:34,399 --> 01:31:38,840
I want to show you the they.

1656
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:39,239
Speaker 2: Don't want us to know the truth, so it's probably

1657
01:31:39,239 --> 01:31:39,800
not gonna work.

1658
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 4: I know, let's see.

1659
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean again, this is like way out

1660
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:48,159
of the box. But when I was looking at that

1661
01:31:48,199 --> 01:31:50,760
today and reading the descriptions, I'm like, this is like

1662
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:53,720
Dante's Inferno, the way that these people are describing this,

1663
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:58,800
the rivers of blood and all this other stuff, And

1664
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:02,319
it's like I was there to experience that, and a

1665
01:32:02,319 --> 01:32:08,399
lot of the people did perish from the thing that happened. Son,

1666
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:12,079
you know, how would we really know what happened truly?

1667
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 4: Right?

1668
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:15,560
Speaker 2: And it could have been some sort of They said

1669
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:17,159
it was one thing, and it could have been something

1670
01:32:17,199 --> 01:32:18,039
completely different.

1671
01:32:19,119 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 5: So weird unable to saying there's nothing is showing it

1672
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:25,640
to me, and then it's saying that seeing me try

1673
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:28,960
one more time select the window or screen, I'm selecting

1674
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:31,640
the one I want, clicking on it.

1675
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 4: Oh new website? No, no, not I want I'm hitting

1676
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:38,119
a lau it's your fucking dumb platform. Okay.

1677
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:41,520
Speaker 2: The the apologize no Worries.

1678
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:48,680
Speaker 4: The sigil the symbol for this event called Reform, which.

1679
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 5: They have something that hangs from behind the stage during

1680
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:54,239
the show that is this.

1681
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 4: It's like a sculpture of this shape. Right, it's the

1682
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:01,359
idol or the icon or the the sigil or whatever.

1683
01:33:02,159 --> 01:33:04,840
Speaker 5: No type in reform parties lost. Oh there it is right,

1684
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:07,840
hold on, drop down, Go to the one right. It's

1685
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:10,319
like red and black and there's like a white circle.

1686
01:33:10,359 --> 01:33:12,520
It's in the left hand side.

1687
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:16,119
Speaker 4: Right there. Okay, see this weird red thing with the

1688
01:33:16,119 --> 01:33:16,920
geometry in it.

1689
01:33:17,119 --> 01:33:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's there.

1690
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:20,640
Speaker 5: And you can see there's another one that's green and white.

1691
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:24,159
They need different parties. They have something hanging behind the

1692
01:33:24,239 --> 01:33:26,600
stage that is that right there, you go the reform.

1693
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:28,880
We can just see this, not that one, but that

1694
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:30,359
looks like scaffolding in a building.

1695
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 4: Go to the just that black and white woman, it

1696
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:34,359
says reform. It's just literally the symbol in the world.

1697
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:36,600
The word. Go down from where that thing is that

1698
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:38,159
you are on the picture of the picture of the

1699
01:33:38,159 --> 01:33:41,359
picture you're on, says necto. Roll down. There's white that

1700
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:46,239
there you go. Okay. They have something that hangs behind

1701
01:33:46,359 --> 01:33:52,600
the stage that is right there, and that hangs behind

1702
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:56,800
the DJ and when the different lasers and stuff hit it,

1703
01:33:56,800 --> 01:34:00,199
it starts to look like a crystal or a prism

1704
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:01,359
or whatever. It is.

1705
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 5: Right, but look how it's a circle that also looks

1706
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:10,279
kind of like an eye. If you did retinal mapping

1707
01:34:10,319 --> 01:34:12,319
of the eye, it's gonna sort of look like that.

1708
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:16,720
But that also looks like when you do theater in

1709
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:20,720
the round and backstage or the audience is all around

1710
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:21,880
the circle that's.

1711
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:23,239
Speaker 4: In the middle. Right.

1712
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:26,560
Speaker 5: So these are all the different groups that are usually

1713
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:29,600
in their own let's just pretend they're like churches or

1714
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:33,000
whatever it is, or their own temples. When they come together,

1715
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:37,239
they put them all together into this kind of thing

1716
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:42,000
and create like this. This like this was a party

1717
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:43,319
that I was at the last time I was in

1718
01:34:43,359 --> 01:34:45,439
Los Angeles where I had this kind of experience that

1719
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:46,359
I had hag a while.

1720
01:34:46,399 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 4: When I think about it, like from the early days

1721
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,399
of techno and Los Angeles, a lot of those people

1722
01:34:52,399 --> 01:34:55,199
had broken into separate groups, and I saw a lot

1723
01:34:55,239 --> 01:34:57,920
of those people on that night. They had come back together.

1724
01:34:58,039 --> 01:35:01,079
They had reformed the church or the theater group.

1725
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 5: Or the collective or whatever it is, right, and you know,

1726
01:35:06,119 --> 01:35:09,760
there was a lot of very there's stuff that if

1727
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:12,359
I look at it at through like the lens of

1728
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:16,920
some things I've been learning about antiquity from Amenhillman and

1729
01:35:17,239 --> 01:35:20,960
Gnostic informant and things like that. It looks like a

1730
01:35:21,039 --> 01:35:24,479
modern day version of some of these celebrations and rituals

1731
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:25,560
that they used to do.

1732
01:35:26,199 --> 01:35:29,039
Speaker 4: Right, I can see things that they're talking about, Like

1733
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:30,199
I thought they.

1734
01:35:30,039 --> 01:35:32,520
Speaker 5: Were kind of something else because I was coming from

1735
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:35,319
the perception of the reality that I live in.

1736
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 4: But why do they look.

1737
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:40,560
Speaker 5: Exactly like the things that they're describing from antiquity? Like

1738
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:45,800
even the equipment, the scaffolding, the lighting, the sound equipment,

1739
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:49,960
the speakers have like parts of them that literally look

1740
01:35:50,159 --> 01:35:52,479
like the symbols of some of these cults and the

1741
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:55,800
religious icons and idols and whatever it is. I'm like,

1742
01:35:56,319 --> 01:35:59,000
this is the shit right here, right, all of these

1743
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:05,920
these sort of temporal or dimensional, vibrationally adherent realities that

1744
01:36:06,039 --> 01:36:08,680
form and reform and come apart and whatever.

1745
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 4: They're being held together through sound and light.

1746
01:36:13,119 --> 01:36:17,399
Speaker 5: It's it's it's on some level like a combination between

1747
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:20,960
altering your consciousness and an optical and audial illusion.

1748
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:25,199
Speaker 2: And how do we know for a fact that these

1749
01:36:25,239 --> 01:36:27,159
things aren't real the things that they're showing up on

1750
01:36:27,199 --> 01:36:27,600
the screen?

1751
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:29,720
Speaker 4: Correct? Yeah, if you look that, that's so that those

1752
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:33,520
are those parties are called afterlife that use those that

1753
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:36,439
kind of uh, you know, visual show.

1754
01:36:37,159 --> 01:36:40,359
Speaker 5: Right, there's all kinds of interesting visual shows that different

1755
01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:43,520
styles of music and different groups that parties are doing.

1756
01:36:44,039 --> 01:36:45,960
Some of them I find to be really disturbing and

1757
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:47,840
others I find to be really cool, and a lot

1758
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:49,119
of them are somewhere in between.

1759
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:52,039
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1760
01:36:52,119 --> 01:36:55,800
Speaker 5: Well, if you look up like after Light, after Life,

1761
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:58,560
After Life party visuals, like, you'll get like the most

1762
01:36:58,600 --> 01:36:59,199
amounts of.

1763
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:01,119
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1764
01:37:01,199 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 5: It's like one group that really is into like molodic techno.

1765
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:06,239
Speaker 2: And it makes me think of.

1766
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 4: Really the tech like.

1767
01:37:08,079 --> 01:37:11,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, a movie that really, like as a kid

1768
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:13,560
messed me up and I couldn't sleep for like a

1769
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:18,119
week was Blade and right the scene the nightclub scene

1770
01:37:18,119 --> 01:37:20,960
wore everyone. How you're saying, like they look different, they

1771
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:22,760
look off, and then boom, it turns out that they're

1772
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:24,159
actually the vampires in there.

1773
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,640
Speaker 5: I have been to parties like the parties that I

1774
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:31,600
most prefer have, like the When I get into that space,

1775
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:36,880
it's like a very cool sort of futuristic.

1776
01:37:36,399 --> 01:37:41,079
Speaker 4: Geometric look at this ley saturated color reality. But I

1777
01:37:41,119 --> 01:37:43,199
have heard people who say that they have the same

1778
01:37:43,239 --> 01:37:45,880
experience and they end up with people in blood baths

1779
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:48,000
and vampire I've never I don't. That's I don't have.

1780
01:37:48,079 --> 01:37:51,119
That's not really the kinds of my sort of mind

1781
01:37:51,239 --> 01:37:54,119
or whatever. I've had a few scary experiences during my

1782
01:37:54,319 --> 01:37:58,680
like really bad meth addicted days where I ended up

1783
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:01,640
in some situations a party, like in an interdimensional way.

1784
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:04,359
That wasn't what I would prefer, but it felt much

1785
01:38:04,359 --> 01:38:08,600
more related to like Matthews than it did to anything else.

1786
01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:10,680
It felt like that's the that's the level of that

1787
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:11,680
I was vibrating at.

1788
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:14,399
Speaker 5: That was the dimension that I was vibrating with, and

1789
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:15,760
so that's where I ended up.

1790
01:38:16,119 --> 01:38:21,680
Speaker 2: Right, But who some of these are wild, wild, right.

1791
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:27,199
Speaker 5: There's all kinds of interesting visual shows that are created

1792
01:38:27,239 --> 01:38:30,439
through different kinds of effects, and some of them are

1793
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:32,640
really something to look at at the front of.

1794
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,239
Speaker 4: The room, and others are discussed out the.

1795
01:38:35,239 --> 01:38:38,840
Speaker 5: Room and are intended to create almost like a double

1796
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:42,159
slit experience or a hypercube type of experience, where like

1797
01:38:42,279 --> 01:38:45,680
you feel like you are inside of something.

1798
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:48,039
Speaker 4: I've shown you that hypercube box before.

1799
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 5: I think I've been in parties where I feel like

1800
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:52,800
you're inside of.

1801
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:53,680
Speaker 4: That right.

1802
01:38:55,359 --> 01:38:59,119
Speaker 2: Inside the cube, which is part of Charles Hinton. We

1803
01:38:59,319 --> 01:39:02,159
talked about metating upon the cubes and you could enter

1804
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:06,960
another dimension essentially. So think about this. I think that

1805
01:39:07,079 --> 01:39:10,399
some of these things might be real, right They everyone

1806
01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:12,520
likes to talk about Project Bluebeam and everything, and I

1807
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:14,239
think they've already been testing this stuff out.

1808
01:39:14,319 --> 01:39:16,680
Speaker 5: If they weren't real to start, they're real now because

1809
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:19,239
they've done this enough and they've had enough attention focused

1810
01:39:19,279 --> 01:39:21,960
on them, right, Like these are like eggrigors of attention

1811
01:39:22,239 --> 01:39:25,560
kind of thing, right that they come to life. I'm

1812
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:27,399
sure some people at this party have had that ship

1813
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:28,079
follow them.

1814
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:31,560
Speaker 4: Home and their dreams and their knifemares and shit like that.

1815
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:35,560
I'm sure you have to be very conscientious. Like I

1816
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:36,880
encourage people.

1817
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:41,640
Speaker 5: To have these anomalous edge experiences, but I also encourage

1818
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:46,079
people to be very conscious and conscientious about how they

1819
01:39:46,119 --> 01:39:48,399
have them, who they have them with, where they have them,

1820
01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:50,199
why they have them, when they have them, and what

1821
01:39:50,239 --> 01:39:52,800
they do with the information after they have them. And

1822
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:54,359
it's something I've had.

1823
01:39:54,239 --> 01:39:57,439
Speaker 4: To develop a level of discernment and get better at

1824
01:39:57,560 --> 01:39:58,119
over time.

1825
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:03,039
Speaker 5: Right, And you know, I'm not immune to having, you know,

1826
01:40:03,359 --> 01:40:07,239
a weird experience that I don't like, right Like, you know,

1827
01:40:07,399 --> 01:40:10,239
but I figure for me, I figure I usually have

1828
01:40:10,399 --> 01:40:13,359
whatever experience I need to have, and then it's just

1829
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:16,960
learning to work with it and manage it and whatnot.

1830
01:40:17,239 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 4: But it's because of the sound and the light, dude.

1831
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,079
Speaker 5: It's because of the sound and the light and the

1832
01:40:23,119 --> 01:40:26,359
state that you are in when your consciousness meets that

1833
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:30,359
stimulation that that sort of determines.

1834
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:32,359
Speaker 4: Where you go, how you get there, and what you

1835
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:35,520
find and then what you do with it afterwards.

1836
01:40:36,239 --> 01:40:44,279
Speaker 2: As the famous Nikola Tesla said, if you want to

1837
01:40:44,319 --> 01:40:46,840
find the secrets of the university in terms of energy,

1838
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:52,159
frequency and vibration, and I think that all the stuff

1839
01:40:52,159 --> 01:40:55,119
that we've talked about today kind of sort of hints

1840
01:40:55,119 --> 01:40:58,000
at that, right that we are all vibrating at a

1841
01:40:58,039 --> 01:41:01,399
different frequency, we're all waters, war, all molecules that can

1842
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:04,239
be reconfigured, we know all of that. What if you

1843
01:41:04,239 --> 01:41:07,600
know this atomic technology kind of sort of does that?

1844
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:10,640
And and and how in any famous movie I think,

1845
01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:12,680
I mean, I'm sure that there's been movies where when

1846
01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:17,199
the person teleports, they they become a splatter on the

1847
01:41:17,239 --> 01:41:20,520
wall or something like that. Like again, just thinking about

1848
01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:24,239
that and all the things that we've covered today, yeah,

1849
01:41:24,359 --> 01:41:31,439
I'm left with more with more questions and answers. But yeah, yeah,

1850
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:33,239
you have any final thoughts and what you want to

1851
01:41:33,239 --> 01:41:34,319
add before we get out of here.

1852
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:38,119
Speaker 5: No, that's good, dude, Like take your pick of the

1853
01:41:38,199 --> 01:41:39,920
shows that I might like to talk about with you,

1854
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:42,800
Like OA is the one that people are bringing up

1855
01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:45,880
from before. But I also really love any excuse to

1856
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:48,560
talk about the series Dark It's a German series.

1857
01:41:48,279 --> 01:41:50,520
Speaker 4: But it's voiced over English at this point on Netflix,

1858
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:51,880
and you don't have to understand German.

1859
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 5: And I also really like the Apple series Dark Matter,

1860
01:41:56,279 --> 01:41:59,199
and it should It displays a lot of technologies that

1861
01:41:59,319 --> 01:42:02,279
are sort of a similar or reverse engineering of some

1862
01:42:02,319 --> 01:42:04,119
of the experiences I'd had with Sound of the Light

1863
01:42:04,119 --> 01:42:07,439
of Parties. So if you would like to watch any

1864
01:42:07,439 --> 01:42:10,479
one of those series, I would be love to engage

1865
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:11,319
those topics with.

1866
01:42:11,319 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 4: You next time.

1867
01:42:12,239 --> 01:42:15,199
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard I was put on this one recently?

1868
01:42:15,319 --> 01:42:20,279
Have you ever heard of the show.

1869
01:42:22,119 --> 01:42:22,199
Speaker 3: Here?

1870
01:42:22,279 --> 01:42:27,279
Speaker 2: Let me find it here? Show the guy from Loss.

1871
01:42:27,359 --> 01:42:29,720
He's doing a show called from Have you ever heard

1872
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:30,159
of that show?

1873
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:32,279
Speaker 4: Send me that trailer the other day?

1874
01:42:33,239 --> 01:42:35,560
Speaker 2: We should do that, but we have to include Rider

1875
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:37,600
Lee because he's the one that showed me that a

1876
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:38,600
right good.

1877
01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 4: I've never met him. We can we can have a

1878
01:42:41,159 --> 01:42:42,039
we can do a threesome.

1879
01:42:42,239 --> 01:42:45,000
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, we'll do that next. We'll watch that because

1880
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:47,800
he said it's crazy. He said he's passed the first

1881
01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:49,520
season and he's still trying to figure out what's going on.

1882
01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:53,079
But it's awesome. So from I'll send you. I'll send

1883
01:42:53,119 --> 01:42:56,119
you a link for that. And Emily, where can people

1884
01:42:56,159 --> 01:42:57,880
find you? Working to find your show?

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