Speaker 1: This is the Olympic Files, and I'm Al and I'm.
Speaker 2: THEO, and this is Once upon a Time Part five.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to start counting on your other hand.
Speaker 1: Now, God forget it.
Speaker 3: Never mind, a little icebreaker for humor didn't work right there.
Speaker 2: That's what got it. Uh, Well, this is al. You
Speaker 2: and I are corporations because the United States is a corporation,
Speaker 2: and the state we live in, our respected states, those
Speaker 2: are sub corporations, and the counties within those respected states
Speaker 2: are sub sub corporations, and our cities are sub sub
Speaker 2: sub corporations. So what does that make us sub sub
Speaker 2: sub sub corporations? You and I with our capitalized letters
Speaker 2: on the our driver's licenses and whatnot.
Speaker 3: You and I, Well, people are I don't really think
Speaker 3: have a problem. They seem to have a problem with
Speaker 3: the United States being incorporated, like some Well we went
Speaker 3: through that with the two idiot brothers if you remembers. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and uh, and it's like, what's the problem with one
Speaker 3: of the definitions of the United States is a corporation,
Speaker 3: you know when it's right out there on Manta and Veroni.
Speaker 3: But besides that, well.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, see you see they had a law
Speaker 2: of college professor that told them that that wasn't true, and.
Speaker 1: We know they never lie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, but so people do have a problem
Speaker 3: with the United States being a corporation, and they do
Speaker 3: have a problem with themselves being a corporation. And the
Speaker 3: criticisms that were flimsy that were leveled against us and
Speaker 3: Randy at that time, we're really I mean, they came
Speaker 3: back with the one email saying, well, you know, try
Speaker 3: to take your labor to the stock market.
Speaker 1: It's like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3: You know, that's that's something you said, you create the
Speaker 3: statements you want to debunk yourself, you know, don't bring
Speaker 3: that thing in here. I know we never said anything
Speaker 3: like that whatsoever. But we are and I guess and
Speaker 3: again this I don't get deep into this legal stuff,
Speaker 3: but as corporations, we're also what persons as well, and
Speaker 3: that comes from and that's the other thing.
Speaker 1: They said, well, what do you think it is Roman law?
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, jerk, it is Roman law.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we were created men, men and women, not
Speaker 2: persons and not residents. Those are law legal fictions.
Speaker 1: So we're throwing right in there with corporations. Really.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, now, again, I don't think anybody has a
Speaker 3: problem with cities and towns. I mean, you know, heck,
Speaker 3: I live outside the incorporated limits of a certain city.
Speaker 3: I see the sign every day. People do you know.
Speaker 3: They may not think about it that much, but you're
Speaker 3: a business, so you should. And that's why if Walter
Speaker 3: Bury is still out there doing whatever he's doing, that's
Speaker 3: why it makes sense that every every city or town
Speaker 3: or county should have an annual financial root.
Speaker 2: And I'm not a comprehensive annual financial.
Speaker 3: Report a caffer right, exactly, c AFR. Now the thing is,
Speaker 3: and I'll make this real quick and get it back
Speaker 3: to you. Just to give you an example. In my
Speaker 3: employ as a sports writer, after a number of weeks,
Speaker 3: I got friendly with another guy in a booth who
Speaker 3: was a lawyer from another town. No, not that a lawyer, yes,
Speaker 3: a lawyer. And I asked him and he was a
Speaker 3: good guy. You know, his son played, that's why he
Speaker 3: was there. And I asked him, I said, shouldn't every
Speaker 3: town have afer a comprehensive annual financial report? And he
Speaker 3: stood there for about twenty seconds and he could see
Speaker 3: I mean he processed, I mean he was running through
Speaker 3: his mind, and he goes, yeah, like he never thought
Speaker 3: of it before.
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, they should.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: And I said, but here's what's so great. So before
Speaker 3: I could even say it, he turns me. He goes,
Speaker 3: but good luck trying to.
Speaker 2: Get it yep.
Speaker 3: And he goes, well, you're in the press, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean maybe you could. I said, but you know,
Speaker 3: it's funny, I said, I've just broached this with you.
Speaker 3: You never really thought about it. You have to say,
Speaker 3: there is I mean, they show everybody budgets, but they
Speaker 3: never show them the annual financial reports, you know. And I said,
Speaker 3: but then, what was the first thing you knew how
Speaker 3: they would behave? You know, they would go into a
Speaker 3: bunker mentality. Good luck trying to get it, sucker. I
Speaker 3: thought that tale was worth just kind of moving off
Speaker 3: the main storyline. So thank you for letting me do that.
Speaker 3: I hope you were so edified by a THEO and please,
Speaker 3: by all means continue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's not just our city in County. Here's
Speaker 2: a quote from the first page of the chapter, the
Speaker 2: aptly named chapter bend over America, and this from the
Speaker 2: book The United States Is Still a British Colony by
Speaker 2: James Montgomery. Here's a quote from Montgomery. The United States
Speaker 2: is a corporation, which is a continuation of the corporate
Speaker 2: charters created by the King of England. The States, upon
Speaker 2: ratifying their individual state constitutions, became sub corporations under and
Speaker 2: subordinate to the United States. The counties and municipalities became
Speaker 2: sub corporations under the state charters. The United States is
Speaker 2: still a British colony. We are still subject to the King.
Speaker 2: The King declares our taxation will be forever. And okay,
Speaker 2: you want further proof. Montgomery went to his particular state
Speaker 2: constitution and for him, that being North Carolina. And he
Speaker 2: writes of that, he says, you have to continue to
Speaker 2: go back in historical documents and see if what you
Speaker 2: have been taught is correct. The following quote is from
Speaker 2: section twenty five of the seventeen seventy six North Carolina
Speaker 2: Constitution Declaration of Rights. So this from North Carolina again,
Speaker 2: and it says, and provided further, that nothing herein contained
Speaker 2: shall affect the titles or possessions of individuals holding or
Speaker 2: claiming the under the laws heretofore in force, or grants
Speaker 2: heretofore made by the late King George the second, or
Speaker 2: his predecessors, or the late lord's proprietors, or any of them,
Speaker 2: and that being in the Declaration of Rights seventeen seventy
Speaker 2: six North Carolina Constitution Montgomery Rits. Can it be any plainer?
Speaker 2: Nobody reads. They take what is told to them by
Speaker 2: their schools and government as gospel and never look any further.
Speaker 2: They are, of course quick to attack anyone that does
Speaker 2: not that does do so because it threatens their way
Speaker 2: of life. That rocks the boat. So it of course
Speaker 2: says that whatever they're signing in seventeen seventy six, it's
Speaker 2: not going to nullify the laws and the titles that
Speaker 2: have already been signed, that is, to the signed over
Speaker 2: to the King of Britain.
Speaker 1: Are you referring to the Declaration of Independence? Is that correct?
Speaker 2: Yes, this seventeen seventy six. This would have been the
Speaker 2: same time.
Speaker 3: But the thing is that that was a nice little essay,
Speaker 3: but there was nothing binding to it. Oh you mean
Speaker 3: what the Declaration of Independence? Yeah, yeah, I mean we've
Speaker 3: you're referring to seventy six. My point is that it's
Speaker 3: a nice document, but there's nothing binding in it. It's
Speaker 3: kind of like a pledge if you will. So, in fact,
Speaker 3: it would have been better if that word the low
Speaker 3: of the land besides, rather to support the constitution. But
Speaker 3: again that was something that was put out there for declaration,
Speaker 3: hence the Declaration of Independence, but it had nothing binding.
Speaker 3: So I mean, the Brits looked at it like that's cute, Okay, great,
Speaker 3: you know, they rubbed our heads and said.
Speaker 2: Go on, yeah, yeah. And there's well as far as
Speaker 2: actually owning the land, Montgomery goes on, this is a
Speaker 2: couple of pages later. He says, there was no way
Speaker 2: we could have had a perfected title to this land
Speaker 2: once we had won the Revolutionary War. We would have
Speaker 2: had to have had an unconditional surrender by the king,
Speaker 2: and this did not take place. It's not what took
Speaker 2: place at Yorktown when we let the king off the hook.
Speaker 2: Barring this, the king would have had to had sold
Speaker 2: us this land for us to have a perfected title,
Speaker 2: just as the Indians sold their land to the king,
Speaker 2: or the eight Carolina Proprietors sold Carolina back to the king.
Speaker 2: And this is the key here. The Treaty of seventeen
Speaker 2: eighty three, you know, the one that King George wrote
Speaker 2: dictated the Treaty of seventeen eighty three did not remove
Speaker 2: his claim and original title because he kept the minerals.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, let me a couple more sentences here. This
Speaker 2: is key the Let's see, the king could not just
Speaker 2: give up America to the colonialist, nor would he. He would,
Speaker 2: in fact violate his own law of Mortmaine to put
Speaker 2: these laws in dead hands, no longer to be able
Speaker 2: to be used by himself or his heirs and successors.
Speaker 2: He would also be guilty of harming his heirs and successors. Hey,
Speaker 2: I refer to this a couple of shows back that
Speaker 2: you know, the royalty in Britain there weren't stupid. Long
Speaker 2: ago they wrote a law that prevented any week or
Speaker 2: under duress king or queen from giving away the keys
Speaker 2: to the storehouse, which everything in that storehouse was. Of course,
Speaker 2: it's due to be inherited by his posterity, and so
Speaker 2: they passed the law long ago to where no king
Speaker 2: and queen could do that.
Speaker 3: Well, it goes back to what we said earlier that
Speaker 3: the law of the world is business. It's mercantilism. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, it's not any of this stuff about like
Speaker 3: we said, you know, giving huddle masses yearning to be
Speaker 3: free a place to hang out. It wasn't like that
Speaker 3: at all. It was about new markets and it's about business.
Speaker 3: And I wouldn't even argue whether that should be the
Speaker 3: case or not, because it's been the case.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I won't get into what should have could have been.
Speaker 3: But that's the way it is, and it's still to
Speaker 3: this day. It's all about the money. It's not about freedom.
Speaker 3: The degree of liberty and freedom we have here is
Speaker 3: based on how much money you have. The more money
Speaker 3: you have, the freer you are. Would you agree or
Speaker 3: disagree with that?
Speaker 2: Well, in practical, every day matters, that's usually so.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't think people with a lot of money have
Speaker 3: I don't hear them yelling about freedom and liberty and
Speaker 3: all this other stuff there.
Speaker 2: You you know, John, the Baptists are Gandhi or something,
Speaker 2: and they're they're really okay with monastic poverty.
Speaker 3: Well, in essence, we still can be that way to
Speaker 3: a certain point. We have no way of getting out
Speaker 3: of the system per se, unless you're rich enough to
Speaker 3: do that. So as long as you labor and you
Speaker 3: get paid slave wages, it's a question of how free
Speaker 3: are you in your mind? And I know that sounds awful,
Speaker 3: you know, psychobabble, but it is true. Don't get hung
Speaker 3: up on it because you can't take it with you
Speaker 3: and you're not going to be here all that long.
Speaker 3: So but it's all about business, there's no two ways
Speaker 3: about it. And that's what happened here as well. And
Speaker 3: if you think about it, what was Britain's greatest colonial
Speaker 3: tool It wasn't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't guns at the time.
Speaker 3: It was opening up countries to the markets the British
Speaker 3: East India Company, right, And also what happened here, which
Speaker 3: was mostly I think the work of the Virginia Company.
Speaker 1: So there you have it. I mean, that was the.
Speaker 3: Way they spread their reach. Then afterwards they sent in
Speaker 3: the military to keep things the way they were. I
Speaker 3: don't know is that Did you ever think about that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And I would even wonder if you want to talk
Speaker 2: about a specific key that opened those things up. I
Speaker 2: wonder if you would point to the barristers of England
Speaker 2: as being that tool.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a progression here, you know, you're right, And
Speaker 3: I forget. I had an interview with some we went
Speaker 3: back and forth about it. Kind of kiddingly or tongue
Speaker 3: in cheek. But what is the progression. It's like open markets?
Speaker 3: What would come next? Open market? It's start, yeah, sending
Speaker 3: the bankers, sending the lawyers, and then create a government
Speaker 3: and an army.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so you're right, that's that's a necessary step.
Speaker 3: Once you get the power, you have to find a
Speaker 3: way of keeping it and making it as difficult as
Speaker 3: possible for peasants like ourselves to understand the damn stuff
Speaker 3: that they're right, because it's impenetrable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the lawyers they have to legally justify it, and
Speaker 2: then they have to hide the keys of knowledge, begin
Speaker 2: writing writing contracts in the byzantine language that the average
Speaker 2: person can't understand.
Speaker 1: Right, They produce nothing.
Speaker 3: They don't have any job unless somebody somebody's doing something,
Speaker 3: and I mean, I'm not I guess you know, Well,
Speaker 3: lawyer's a lawyer. That's fine, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But the thing isn't you'll every way agree. They've got
Speaker 3: themselves into a situation where you have to come to
Speaker 3: them to do certain things and that, and they wouldn't
Speaker 3: have any work unless they were people like ourselves, And
Speaker 3: so they write this somewhat arcane language. As you said,
Speaker 3: they set themselves up as a somewhat secret society, one
Speaker 3: that's more out in the sunshine than others. And they're
Speaker 3: just I mean that that the parasites are your rear end.
Speaker 2: And some of their language games that they play, you know,
Speaker 2: they set themselves up as a priesthood really with their language.
Speaker 2: But some of it is so pureile, so childish. It's
Speaker 2: like a game that a little child would play in
Speaker 2: the sandbox to keep others from playing with his toys.
Speaker 2: What I mean by that is they'll play these little
Speaker 2: linguistic word games or punctuation word games that are so
Speaker 2: so childish, and yet it works. Like for example, here's
Speaker 2: a quote from the same chapter by Montgomery after he
Speaker 2: writes the US Constitution is a treaty between the states,
Speaker 2: the geographic states, creating a corporation for the king, and
Speaker 2: then he writes in the he offers a quote later on.
Speaker 2: He says, in the below quote, pay attention to the
Speaker 2: large or capital S state and the small lowercase S state.
Speaker 2: The large capital S state is referring to the corporate
Speaker 2: state and its sovereignty over the small lowercase state because
Speaker 2: of the treaty. And then there's this paragraph from a
Speaker 2: court case where obviously this judge was hip to the
Speaker 2: whole deal, where he alternates. One moment he'll be talking
Speaker 2: about the lowercase s geographic state, the next moment he'll
Speaker 2: be talking about the upper case legal fiction district state.
Speaker 2: And this is from the court cases from it's Hamilton
Speaker 2: versus Eton from seventeen ninety six. So you see the
Speaker 2: little sunctuation games even they play. It's just childish, but
Speaker 2: it works.
Speaker 3: Before you move away from this, I want to go
Speaker 3: back to what you said about it's almost lawyers, right,
Speaker 3: or almost.
Speaker 1: Like a priesthood. Yeah, well, tell me something. How did
Speaker 1: this happen? All right?
Speaker 3: Think about a courtroom? Think about a church, all right?
Speaker 3: Who comes in in at black robes and everybody stands up,
Speaker 3: the judge and the preacher passed the priest. I mean,
Speaker 3: whether they have something on over that investment. But in
Speaker 3: black comes in, everybody stands up. Then you've got the
Speaker 3: certain levels you have. What would you call is it
Speaker 3: the north axe? Is that what they call it? I
Speaker 3: don't know. No, this is the sanctuary. I guess the
Speaker 3: northex is on the other end. Okay, they have the
Speaker 3: sanctuary where the again the pastor preacher whatever priest sits
Speaker 3: on top of above everyone, just like the judge.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: Then a couple levels down, which I think is kind
Speaker 3: of funny off to the right. Either have the choir
Speaker 3: box or you have the jury's the jury and that
Speaker 3: you know, And he had all these levels, and of
Speaker 3: course there's the pews with the chairs where he want
Speaker 3: to sit in and watch the proceedings. What in the
Speaker 3: world happened there that the two that those two scenarios
Speaker 3: are so so alike.
Speaker 2: On the website George Gordon dot com, that guy goes
Speaker 2: into great detail in a short little essay, and he
Speaker 2: specifically was he was in a contentious talk with a
Speaker 2: corporate pastor where he was telling the corporate pastor who
Speaker 2: was from Tennessee, He's he chided him because the pastor
Speaker 2: was trying to chide him Gordon first, and Gordon pointed
Speaker 2: out to him that if you are in the legal
Speaker 2: system of Tennessee, and he outlined what you just went through,
Speaker 2: only in more detail. He said, you are obeying that
Speaker 2: religious system. And yes, everything to a tea, even the
Speaker 2: bailiff is like, I don't know, the ushers.
Speaker 3: Something there's even further that's right, yeah, yeah, So you
Speaker 3: got to wonder why that is, But nevertheless it is.
Speaker 3: And what you had said, whether you knew what you
Speaker 3: said at the time about it almost being like a priesthood,
Speaker 3: I guess you could say it was a priesthood, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And it continues to be right. There are
Speaker 2: two things that Montgomery writes about in I guess it's
Speaker 2: mainly in this work of the two that the United
Speaker 2: States is still a British colony. Two things I wish
Speaker 2: he had gone into greater detail. He goes into some
Speaker 2: I just wish for at least for me, it's not
Speaker 2: clear enough. One of them is he states that in
Speaker 2: the eighteen forties is when the law of the sea
Speaker 2: admiralty came on to land through a series of court
Speaker 2: decisions in the eighteen forties that are now called the
Speaker 2: Insular Cases, how admiralty creeped on to land, and I
Speaker 2: just he explains it, but not enough for this dolt.
Speaker 2: So I wish he had gone into greater detail. The
Speaker 2: other thing that I'm looking at right now that pertains
Speaker 2: more to what we're talking about today, I wish he
Speaker 2: had gone into greater detail about this. For myself, there
Speaker 2: was something maybe al maybe you know about this. There
Speaker 2: was something that was set up, and I think it
Speaker 2: was set up even before Yeah, it was set up
Speaker 2: even when the probably when the Pilgrims landed or shortly thereafter.
Speaker 2: So this is before the revolutionary era. There was a
Speaker 2: small body of men called the Council of State that
Speaker 2: were set up to be advisors to the governors of
Speaker 2: the geographic states, kind of like you know, ancient Harry
Speaker 2: Hopkins types or Henry Kissinger types. It's weird. And they
Speaker 2: could not be any form of elected official. They could
Speaker 2: not be in the military. They had to be this
Speaker 2: totally independent body, and yet they're not independent of Britain.
Speaker 2: And I think they were made up of lawyers. But
Speaker 2: he spends a couple of pages on this, but I'm
Speaker 2: still not sure. Let me just give you a few
Speaker 2: quotes on it. He said, the job of the first
Speaker 2: Council of State was to make sure the governor followed
Speaker 2: the King's wishes, that the laws they passed had to
Speaker 2: conform to the King's law. Skipping down here, Montgomery says
Speaker 2: the Council of State still exists today, although it has
Speaker 2: been modified several times, and then he lists who could
Speaker 2: be in on this Council of State and who couldn't.
Speaker 2: No treasurer can have a seat. Nobody in the House
Speaker 2: of Commons, which would be the Congress, I mean the
Speaker 2: House of Representatives. No officer or regular in the Army
Speaker 2: of Navy, No Secretary of State, or Attorney General, or
Speaker 2: clerk of any court. Record. In the next page, Montgomery writes,
Speaker 2: the King continued to rule through this Council of State
Speaker 2: until several things were in place, namely his bank, his laws,
Speaker 2: and his tradition. The King succeeded by the acceptance of
Speaker 2: the American people that they were free, along with the
Speaker 2: whole of our history not being taught in our schools.
Speaker 2: Excuse me. The next change to the Council of State
Speaker 2: came at the conquest of this country, which is referring
Speaker 2: to the reconstruction in eighteen sixty eight. I guess he
Speaker 2: gives a quote here that says, even up till eighteen
Speaker 2: sixty eight in North Carolina, the Council of State shall
Speaker 2: advise the governor. But then he writes this, and this
Speaker 2: is the last paragraph on this after the Civil War,
Speaker 2: the conquest of America, you see, those that were allowed
Speaker 2: to be in the Council of State were elected officials
Speaker 2: under the seventeen seventy sixth North Carolina Constitution. It was unlawful. Oh,
Speaker 2: it was still unlawful for these elected officials to be
Speaker 2: councils of State. Why because the king could not trust
Speaker 2: the common man to obey him now that they thought
Speaker 2: they were free. After the Civil War, the Council of
Speaker 2: State was no longer needed to fulfill the public policy
Speaker 2: of the king. But the Council of State still exists today,
Speaker 2: it is just in a reduced capacity as far as
Speaker 2: the King goes. Now, the King had the Fourteenth Amendment,
Speaker 2: his lawyers in the government, his bankers in control of
Speaker 2: the government's money, and above all the greed that causes
Speaker 2: most in office to continue the status quo. So after
Speaker 2: the reconstruction and the passing that's so called passing of
Speaker 2: the fourteenth Amendment, the Council of State was no longer important.
Speaker 2: Apparently it's still around in some capacity. But I wish
Speaker 2: he was more clear as to who these guys were.
Speaker 2: I think he tries to be I just I needed
Speaker 2: more clarification. Clearly, this is an important little body of
Speaker 2: I don't know what you want to call them spies
Speaker 2: or what.
Speaker 3: We might be able to get in touch and get
Speaker 3: some clarification on that.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you know the thing is we talk.
Speaker 3: About the kings and such. Just to make one thing
Speaker 3: clear right now. If you think kings and queens or
Speaker 3: whoever are the crown heads of whatever countries in Europe
Speaker 3: are a feat, think again. They're going to come roaring
Speaker 3: back big time after their little masquerade is over. They've
Speaker 3: sat back in a loud their countries to go through
Speaker 3: this experiment, most of which is called social democracy over
Speaker 3: in Europe, but they still run the show. We laugh
Speaker 3: at Queen Elizabeth blah blah blah, but in essence, they
Speaker 3: are still on top of the pile. And those who
Speaker 3: sit in Parliament and in the Senate or wherever it
Speaker 3: is across the world, but especially as it is here
Speaker 3: and in Europe, they still hold the keys of the kingdom.
Speaker 3: And then they will come back out very obviously in
Speaker 3: a certain amount of time. And I'm going to just
Speaker 3: throw this out here now. It's not something that we
Speaker 3: can go into, but if you want to hitt on it,
Speaker 3: by all means, I've been just thinking about this and
Speaker 3: the one continuum of power as far as you can
Speaker 3: trace back, seems to me to be the Roman Empire
Speaker 3: in one form or another. And I say that because
Speaker 3: if you look at you Europe, to me, that pretty
Speaker 3: much is the heart of the of the Roman, of
Speaker 3: the Holy Roman Empire. And after Rome fell, I think
Speaker 3: it morphed into something else, which probably was the Romanist Church,
Speaker 3: and also with Great Britain. Then after that, who do
Speaker 3: you really have except the handoff to the United States.
Speaker 1: But it's not that again that we do our own
Speaker 1: uh you know, we do our own thinking.
Speaker 3: We're still at the behest of not only Britain and
Speaker 3: the Vatican, but I would say the Roman Empire in general,
Speaker 3: which could be that you could call it the EU.
Speaker 3: So I know that's kind of out there, but seriously,
Speaker 3: if you think about the one power on this earth
Speaker 3: that lasted as long as it did, even though like
Speaker 3: I said, it might have morphed into different shapes and
Speaker 3: it's coming back one last time, is the final Holy
Speaker 3: Roman Empire? You know, I would say, you know, it's Europe.
Speaker 3: You have any thoughts on that? In particular, it.
Speaker 2: Just brings to mind one of the more memorable images
Speaker 2: from that massive tome of Carol Quigley. And no, I
Speaker 2: don't think that Quigley was telling the whole story or
Speaker 2: anything like that. But it was an impressive work, and
Speaker 2: he did, of course reveal a lot of stuff. But
Speaker 2: he writes it was really captivating writing historical writing as
Speaker 2: well as you know, all of the things he documented.
Speaker 2: But he wrote, he wrote how he was trying to
Speaker 2: envision what the German tribes must have felt like when
Speaker 2: they came upon Rome just as Rome was collapsing, and
Speaker 2: he notes how and he talks about the next couple
Speaker 2: of centuries where these Roman tribes they even though they
Speaker 2: had come upon this crumbling empire.
Speaker 1: Of me, Oh you mean the German tribes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, I said, Roman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Germany, or when they came upon the crumbling room,
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Visigoths and the various other ones they they
Speaker 2: they nevertheless were still so impressed with the Roman Empire
Speaker 2: of what they did see of it, that they kept
Speaker 2: trying to recreate it within their own ranks for the
Speaker 2: next at least couple of centuries. And they couldn't quite
Speaker 2: get it down, but they kept trying to copy what
Speaker 2: they had seen the vestiges of it was fascinating. Yeah
Speaker 2: that I had never thought of that until I read
Speaker 2: that by Quickly. But he's definitely right there. And but
Speaker 2: you know what, Yeah, humankind has been trying to at
Speaker 2: least in the West, has been trying to recreate the
Speaker 2: Roman Empire ever since then.
Speaker 3: In the West, I say this that we were let's see,
Speaker 3: it sits with us. I think it really doesn't. And
Speaker 3: we've gone through that because of the relationship that we
Speaker 3: have with Britain. It makes it seem like we're all that,
Speaker 3: but we really aren't. Again, Britain's elite in the city
Speaker 3: of London have just kind of sat back. It doesn't
Speaker 3: not matter to them that they aren't credited with this
Speaker 3: awesome power. And if you take a look at the
Speaker 3: families in the United States generationally who have run this
Speaker 3: place and certainly have grabbed it lock Stock and Barrel
Speaker 3: in the twentieth century. I mean, look at Rockefeller, Carnegie,
Speaker 3: those families. It doesn't matter that nobody's paying attention to them.
Speaker 3: I mean, they're true professionals. They know they run the show.
Speaker 3: At least they take their orders on this side of
Speaker 3: the pond, and they get things done and they don't
Speaker 3: mind that they're not out there in the limelight.
Speaker 1: That's really where it's at.
Speaker 3: So, like I said, they're consummate professionals and they don't
Speaker 3: need to necessarily have their names in the paper and whatnot.
Speaker 3: But they certainly have the money and they know exactly
Speaker 3: who runs it and that's.
Speaker 1: Enough for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this country is run by on this, like you said,
Speaker 2: on this side of the pond, by the dynastic clans
Speaker 2: like the Rockefellers, Melons, DuPonts.
Speaker 1: Just a few others, Yeah, Carnegie Ford, the.
Speaker 2: Pews, and there's just a just a mattering of others. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So so that's where we're at. We're at the
Speaker 3: last I guess, in the final throes of whatever this
Speaker 3: is around the world. It's gonna it's gonna eventually come
Speaker 3: back to the Roman Empire, if it's the e whatever
Speaker 3: you want to call it. They're not gonna get a
Speaker 3: hair harmed on them. They're still running the show, and
Speaker 3: then they eventually will come back out when we get
Speaker 3: what was promised, doesn't.
Speaker 1: That's this new serfdom.
Speaker 3: So our role in it has been to expedite that,
Speaker 3: and we've done that for a century and By the way,
Speaker 3: what I said about the Robert Barons grabbing power, they
Speaker 3: had that going into the twentieth century, they had already
Speaker 3: started on trying to make policy. If you in so
Speaker 3: many sectors of American life, and certainly as you progress
Speaker 3: through the twentieth century, you can see there's less and
Speaker 3: less congressmen and senators who haven't been bought. And to
Speaker 3: this day, you might get a rookie that comes in there,
Speaker 3: doesn't want to play ball, doesn't want to do what
Speaker 3: DC does. Then we'll stick around long. So we have
Speaker 3: no government per se. We just have a body that
Speaker 3: looks like it's a political process, but it is not.
Speaker 1: And but ahead you want to say something.
Speaker 2: To yeah, if you jogged my memory about something that
Speaker 2: I was just reading about. And actually this is in
Speaker 2: the other James Montgomery book, A Nation Defeated in Victory,
Speaker 2: where he provides you mentioned fewer and fewer congressmen who
Speaker 2: were willing to stand up and try to stop the
Speaker 2: takeover of the robber barons. In the first half of
Speaker 2: the early stages of the twentieth century, when the robber
Speaker 2: barons were sealing the deal passing their Federal Reserve Act
Speaker 2: and the Income Tax Act, if you know, if you
Speaker 2: can call that having been passed. There are quotes, really
Speaker 2: poignant quotes from congressman like Lindbergh's father. Of course, who's
Speaker 2: Charles Windberg senior?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: And there also two others who oh man. One of
Speaker 2: them was Congressman Louis mcfatick, and another one was Senator
Speaker 2: whatever else you think about him. He was right about this,
Speaker 2: Senator Huey Long. Those guys were railing against what was
Speaker 2: going on. Oh they you know what it was. They
Speaker 2: really got up in arms over the nineteen thirty three
Speaker 2: at Thinking Act by FDR Us the Long and McFadden did.
Speaker 2: And you know what, guess what happened to both of
Speaker 2: those guys. They had some really mysterious deaths. Obviously Long
Speaker 2: was obviously assassinated and McFadden was probably poisoned. I know
Speaker 2: Eric Phelps thinks that, yeah, he probably was right.
Speaker 3: Interesting too, because Yui Long I really liked Smedley Butler.
Speaker 3: That might have seen that could have been a marriage
Speaker 3: made in hell to assert. Yeah, but Long respected Butler,
Speaker 3: and there may have been a thought in Long's mind
Speaker 3: to get him to become his running mate.
Speaker 2: Well, Long was a legitimate threat to FDR to take
Speaker 2: the presidency from him. And you know, even in that
Speaker 2: mainstream movie called Kingfish where John Goodman played Huey Long,
Speaker 2: they even imply that they actually imploy that FDR had
Speaker 2: some kind of a hand in the assassination of Huey Long.
Speaker 2: You watched that movie, and that's what you come away with.
Speaker 3: But I mean, he wasn't a threat to FDR. He
Speaker 3: was a threat to the power block that supported FDR, which.
Speaker 1: Is Wall Street exactly. Yeah, And that's.
Speaker 3: Why that whole deal. I think we spoke to this before.
Speaker 3: If not, you know, it's been a long time. You
Speaker 3: and I are both aware of it, so we kind
Speaker 3: of forget to whom we've not spoken this. But this
Speaker 3: whole thing about Wall Street supposedly throwing a coup, trying
Speaker 3: to raise an army and then have Butler lead that
Speaker 3: army down on Washington to throw out FDR, to me
Speaker 3: is total bunk. You know, I've gone through enough of
Speaker 3: it with other authors and Butler's own papers. To me,
Speaker 3: what this did was it was a ruse that and
Speaker 3: jondered a certain amount of sympathy for Roosevelt because they
Speaker 3: knew what was going to happen. The power brokers knew
Speaker 3: what was going to happen with FDR in office, and
Speaker 3: they didn't want any threat to that. And at that time,
Speaker 3: let's say that they could not manipulate the elections as
Speaker 3: well as they can do today or even fifty years ago,
Speaker 3: so they didn't want anybody to rock their plans. And
Speaker 3: the Kingfish might have seemed to have been a problem
Speaker 3: for them, and that was eliminated. But I mean, I
Speaker 3: would just say that FDR obviously didn't do anything that
Speaker 3: he wasn't told to do, and he certainly was Wall
Speaker 3: Street in his early life. I mean the guy, both
Speaker 3: the Roosevelts and the Delano's both were Wall Street through
Speaker 3: and through.
Speaker 1: He when he was a lawyer, had an office downtown
Speaker 1: in the Wall Street section.
Speaker 2: So as you yourself have even noted before, I think
Speaker 2: you came across a reference to this by Fletcher Proudy
Speaker 2: that the British may have off FDR himself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in fact, its ironic. In the wee small hours
Speaker 3: of the morning, I couldn't sleep and I just took
Speaker 3: a look at that, and I'm gonna put a link
Speaker 3: up to that because that states the case clearly. But
Speaker 3: it's interesting, yes, that there's a thought that he was
Speaker 3: either assassinated, well something he committed suicide. Let's just put
Speaker 3: he was off and there's enough reasons why he could
Speaker 3: have been. And this goes back to what we had
Speaker 3: said that the record showed that Hoover was originally desired
Speaker 3: to break the Banking Act on the people in his
Speaker 3: lame duck period of presidency because at that time presidents
Speaker 3: didn't take over till March, not January, so Hoover had
Speaker 3: this lame duck ninety minute ninety day period and they
Speaker 3: wanted him to do it, and he was like, no way,
Speaker 3: and they really had less of a grasp on him
Speaker 3: because he was going out the exit door. So Roosevelt
Speaker 3: didn't want to do it. Hoover said, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 3: So FDR got the pleasure of breaking the Banking Act
Speaker 3: to the United States. Also, it could have been that
Speaker 3: he didn't have the stomach, Okay, the two Adam Baum
Speaker 3: explosions in Japan, of course, in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, And
Speaker 3: if he didn't have the stomach for it, as we
Speaker 3: had sent a couple of shows back, Harry didn't mind,
Speaker 3: and Harry went ahead and did it. So yes, I mean,
Speaker 3: assassination is the game, and of course we don't have
Speaker 3: any in the United States because they're always lone gunmen
Speaker 3: running around it and it's it's baloney. So yes, there
Speaker 3: is some thought that that Roosevelt was did not die
Speaker 3: for organic reasons, a cerebral hemorrhage. And then that goes
Speaker 3: back to the story about grim Eco being sent by
Speaker 3: Stalin to take a look at at his his body
Speaker 3: in State and we're like, no, no, no, don't because
Speaker 3: if you had a cerebral you would show certain signs.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's it.
Speaker 3: Now there's another thing too, where I think you wanted
Speaker 3: to go and your points well taken about some of
Speaker 3: the senators, congress people even into the fifties. We talked
Speaker 3: about the Cox and Hares commissions that we're trying to
Speaker 3: find out what the heck the taxis and foundations were doing,
Speaker 3: and they were thwarted at every turn. But going back
Speaker 3: to what we were talking about about the United States
Speaker 3: in his final stage, we're being used and we're going
Speaker 3: to be thrown away eventually, but not before our money,
Speaker 3: our lifeblood is absolutely drained from us. What do you
Speaker 3: think the jobs are? What do you think the corporations went,
Speaker 3: and then eventually they're going to get us into another war,
Speaker 3: kill off as many people as possible, and then there'll
Speaker 3: be no more United States as we've known it. There'll
Speaker 3: be no seven hundred pound gorilla on this planet. It
Speaker 3: won't be China and it won't be Russia. At that time,
Speaker 3: everybody's going to play ball and be nice. So but
Speaker 3: going back to this whole situation about draining out the lifeblood.
Speaker 3: We think about where our tax money goes, or some
Speaker 3: of it, and we understand that the Federal Reserve is
Speaker 3: a private bank. But the Tea Party, for instance, who finally,
Speaker 3: I guess, along with Glenn Beck that jerk. I guess
Speaker 3: they finally came upon the fact that that is the case,
Speaker 3: that the Federal Reserve is not federal, no more than
Speaker 3: federal expresses. And they think that they got the keys
Speaker 3: to the kingdom now because they're gonna go ahead behind
Speaker 3: Ron Paul and they're gonna throw out the Federal Reserve.
Speaker 3: And they don't understand that nobody messes with the Fed.
Speaker 3: We said that before you mess with the Fed, you're dead.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 3: Ron Paul can make all the nice noises he wants to,
Speaker 3: and every four years he doesn't go anywhere with this,
Speaker 3: and the time in between the presidential elections he makes
Speaker 3: a lot of nice noise. Nothing ever gets done except
Speaker 3: he gets re elected in his district. They'll re elect
Speaker 3: that fart even when he's been dead ten years down
Speaker 3: in Texas. Now, it's not it does not end with
Speaker 3: the FED. Isn't that where you were going with THEO.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really nice that the patriot types have finally
Speaker 2: caught on and found out about the FED. And they're
Speaker 2: right in as much as they go there.
Speaker 3: But you know, you don't mess with the money. You
Speaker 3: never mess with the money and get.
Speaker 2: But okay, so congratulations, folks. You've scratched the tip of
Speaker 2: the iceberg. You found out about the FED. Do you
Speaker 2: want to know about the rest of the iceberg? Do
Speaker 2: you want to know what's actually under the water? Because
Speaker 2: the FED is connected to and subordinate to the British Exchequer,
Speaker 2: which is a part of the British Crown, And the
Speaker 2: Crown is not the king. The Crown is the corporation
Speaker 2: of bankers. I guess would be how I would explain it.
Speaker 2: But here's a quote from James Montgomery about the FED
Speaker 2: and the British Exchequer. He writes, what I will show
Speaker 2: you next will shock you. I made brief mention of
Speaker 2: it in Part one that taxes paid in this country
Speaker 2: were under treaty to the King of England. How about
Speaker 2: if I told you that the law that created our
Speaker 2: taxes and this country's tax court goes back in history
Speaker 2: to William the Conqueror. And to further help you understand
Speaker 2: the below definitions. The the Exchequer is the British branch
Speaker 2: of the Federal Reserve. Here are Here's a definition from
Speaker 2: Ballentine's Law Dictionary. Exchecker. The English Department of Revenue a
Speaker 2: very ancient court of records set up by William the
Speaker 2: Conqueror and intended principally to order the revenues of the
Speaker 2: crown to recover the King's debts and duties. It was
Speaker 2: called exchecker schacarum from the czecked cloth resembling a chess board.
Speaker 2: Oh a Masonic reference there which covers the table. That's
Speaker 2: from Valentine's Law Dictionary. This is from Blacks Law Dictionary,
Speaker 2: fourth edition. Exchecker that department of the English government, which
Speaker 2: has charge of the collection of the national revenue, i e.
Speaker 2: The Treasury Department. This from Bouvier's Law Dictionary nineteen fourteen
Speaker 2: xchecker in English law A department of the government which
Speaker 2: has the management of the collection of the king's revenue.
Speaker 2: And we are under that. Let's see, Oh, how is
Speaker 2: the word exchequer is still used today? Here we go
Speaker 2: in Britain. The exchequer is the Federal Reserve, the same
Speaker 2: as our Federal Reserve. They just changed the name here,
Speaker 2: as they have done many things to cloud what is
Speaker 2: taking place, hoping no one would catch on. Who wrote
Speaker 2: the Federal Reserve Act and put it in place in
Speaker 2: this country? Why bankers from the Bank of England with
Speaker 2: their counterparts in New York. And then there are some
Speaker 2: very telling quotes, one of them again from Congressman McFadden
Speaker 2: warning about all of this. And McFadden he was naming names.
Speaker 2: He is in this quote, he's naming the specific names
Speaker 2: of the banksters contemporaneous to this and part of this swindle.
Speaker 2: And yeah, they they like you just said, you don't
Speaker 2: mess with the money powers. They you know, look what
Speaker 2: happened to even Jesus when he did that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, three days.
Speaker 3: They after throwing the bankers out of the temple, they
Speaker 3: got him before pilot. Yeah, now that is symbolic, and
Speaker 3: it had to be done. There was no way that
Speaker 3: that should be avoided. Understand But and you do I know,
Speaker 3: but it just seems it's symbolic. It is absolutely symbolic
Speaker 3: that that would be the particular party, if you will,
Speaker 3: that would be used to expedite well, actually I guess
Speaker 3: it happened on time, but to facilitate let's put it
Speaker 3: that way, his crucifixion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, real quick. And McFadden in his quote here
Speaker 2: after he names these banksters. He even says here he
Speaker 2: says that these guys, he says they were recently in
Speaker 2: the pay of Great Britain as chief Economic he says,
Speaker 2: and it's quote that these banksters are in the pay
Speaker 2: of Great Britain. And this was a quote decrying the
Speaker 2: nineteen thirty three Emergency Banking Act. Yeah, McFadden, man, he
Speaker 2: had guts and discernment.
Speaker 1: How rare.
Speaker 2: You don't see that anymore in Congress at all.
Speaker 3: Again, you might have that one particular person, maybe a few,
Speaker 3: but they get marginalized. If you do not play ball,
Speaker 3: you don't stick around, you'd be ostracized, you'd be rend powerless,
Speaker 3: and then eventually your constituent constituency won't re elect you.
Speaker 2: Or you'd be killed like McFadden was.
Speaker 3: Well, well, I think they got most of that nasty
Speaker 3: business out of the way, wouldn't you agree?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: All right, But going back to the crown, we're not
Speaker 3: talking about the crown. I mean, the crowns stands for something.
Speaker 3: What do they call that a schenectady or something like that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, an Well, no, it's it's an item that
Speaker 2: stands for something else. Yeah, what is that called that? Oh? Metonomy?
Speaker 3: There's autonomy, and then there's the one I really like
Speaker 3: it looks like synecdoch but it's no.
Speaker 1: It doesn't. It starts with an s.
Speaker 2: Well, like to tease. Never mind.
Speaker 1: Oh that's another one too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, please, you know how many times have you used
Speaker 3: that in conversation in your lifetime? But we use it
Speaker 3: as an item that stands for a much bigger entity.
Speaker 3: So the crown as well we're speaking about is a
Speaker 3: crown that is a corporation and takes care of financial matters. Uh,
Speaker 3: and the like is especially back then and at his
Speaker 3: house in the city of London. So it isn't the
Speaker 3: Crown like like James Bond would say, you know, for
Speaker 3: Country Crown, whatever it was, Godden Crown. I don't know
Speaker 3: when he just had relations. But that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 3: And you can look at up and see that it
Speaker 3: stands for something other than the King.
Speaker 2: And Queen and Montgomery and the Eye man go into that.
Speaker 2: I just I don't have that particular page.
Speaker 3: And you know, there's some people who really love to
Speaker 3: get into this kind of thing. I guess they probably
Speaker 3: accountants as such. I don't know, maybe well lawyer certainly
Speaker 3: don't want anybody to know about this, and of course
Speaker 3: they go back and forth. You know, we talk about
Speaker 3: the informer in Montgomery as if they're dead.
Speaker 1: They're not.
Speaker 3: But there are the two individuals who've come upon that
Speaker 3: have done the most amount of research, most recently and
Speaker 3: are still accessible. And because of that, I mean, the
Speaker 3: story goes that I never they didn't look for me.
Speaker 3: I look for them when I came down to my
Speaker 3: final realization in my search to find out the way
Speaker 3: things really are on this planet, and that is this.
Speaker 3: Could it be that the whole story about the United
Speaker 3: States is in math, not the whole story, but I
Speaker 3: mean a good part of it, which has brought us
Speaker 3: to this very thing that we're doing.
Speaker 1: Once upon a time.
Speaker 2: What I find interesting is that those two guys, at
Speaker 2: least for the most part, were recent, independently of one another,
Speaker 2: as I understand it. And and yet, and what does
Speaker 2: the what does ancient custom call for? Specifically scriptural ancient
Speaker 2: custom calls for? You need if you're going to attest
Speaker 2: to something, you need two witnesses. Well, we have our
Speaker 2: two witnesses.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And if people you know it's this has met with
Speaker 3: a great deal of animus, I guess you could say,
Speaker 3: but if you have an open mind, if anybody out
Speaker 3: there has ever wondered why certain things don't seem you know,
Speaker 3: it's like going through public school, Uh, you know, you
Speaker 3: have this thing called the electoral college. And you know,
Speaker 3: as a kid, I raised my hand and said, teacher,
Speaker 3: does this mean that we really don't vote directly for
Speaker 3: the president? Right? And I mean the teacher, not being
Speaker 3: you know, not trying to be anything except available to
Speaker 3: answer your question, was subject to the same brainwashing.
Speaker 1: Is like, well, let me see same thing.
Speaker 3: With lobbyist teacher, Why do they have lobbyists on the hill.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be called bribery anywhere else? And it's like, well,
Speaker 3: let me see, well, our history is full of it,
Speaker 3: but we just kind of dusted over and walk away,
Speaker 3: you know. And after a certain amount of time I
Speaker 3: got tired of doing it. I had the dubious blessing,
Speaker 3: if you will, to have been born early enough that
Speaker 3: I heard and I saw stuff right after World War
Speaker 3: two in Korea. It started then and I couldn't figure
Speaker 3: it out.
Speaker 1: Who cares?
Speaker 3: So, I mean, some of that stuff was still around,
Speaker 3: But I mean, you go around in your life, you're
Speaker 3: not going to find too many people that want to
Speaker 3: share that with you.
Speaker 1: So you just forget about.
Speaker 3: It and go on till a point comes when either
Speaker 3: you just say I don't care, or you know what,
Speaker 3: let me take a look into this.
Speaker 1: And that's what we've both done.
Speaker 3: And like I said before, the problem with the Americans
Speaker 3: is they've been propagandized in the believing they can't be propagandized. Now,
Speaker 3: we were to tell the Tea Party that this fed
Speaker 3: goes back to Europe, to the international bankers, and that
Speaker 3: we're really being we're still paying tribute to whatever crown
Speaker 3: you want to talk about, And they'd laughed themselves sick,
Speaker 3: the idiots, And that's a great example of having partial
Speaker 3: knowledge is worse than having no knowledge at all. They
Speaker 3: just think that Ron Paul is gonna throw out their
Speaker 3: fed and everything will be good again. Oh man, Never
Speaker 3: in your life will you ever see it. It is
Speaker 3: impossible for that to happen. So you know, can I
Speaker 3: just share two anecdotes real quick?
Speaker 2: Oh all right.
Speaker 1: You'll appreciate them, and I think you know them both.
Speaker 3: But I think it should be brought back out and
Speaker 3: we're not gonna explain it right now when people are
Speaker 3: gonna laugh themselves silly. But I'll tell you what it is,
Speaker 3: the truth. Deal with it as you may. One of
Speaker 3: them comes from the Informer himself, when he wanted to
Speaker 3: expunge himself from the irs. He had written, I mean
Speaker 3: a lot of people do it. Whatever A lot is
Speaker 3: compared to the population. The total population is a small,
Speaker 3: small fraction of a percent, but it does get done.
Speaker 3: And I you know, God bless him, good for them.
Speaker 3: But you got to watch when you mess with the feds.
Speaker 3: So the Iye man went ahead and got himself out,
Speaker 3: furnished the documentation, you know, crossed the ts, dotted the eyes.
Speaker 3: But he stated that he didn't like the response he
Speaker 3: got from the irs. You thought it was a little ambiguous,
Speaker 3: so he was not going to bite it, thinking that
Speaker 3: it might have been a baited hook.
Speaker 1: Instead, he filed paperwork with the nation state known as
Speaker 1: the Vatican.
Speaker 3: Yes he did, and then the Vatican sent it to
Speaker 3: the Attorney General of the UK and said get him
Speaker 3: out of the system, and they got him out of
Speaker 3: the system. Now, if you believe that to be true,
Speaker 3: and you should, what does that tell you about the
Speaker 3: power in this world? Financially it Otherwise.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about said the letter.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm assuming he still has it. But when
Speaker 3: we spoke and we did that on air years ago.
Speaker 3: The documentation, again, it's like reading a phone book, but
Speaker 3: you got to do it if that's you know, the
Speaker 3: goal is.
Speaker 1: To get yourself out legally. Now.
Speaker 3: The other story comes from a missionary who has a
Speaker 3: sister that's an academic and was attending a conference in
Speaker 3: Austria and asked her sister, the missionary person if she
Speaker 3: liked to come over, and she said yes, and so
Speaker 3: she had to find things to do when the conference
Speaker 3: was in session, and I believe this was in Vianna,
Speaker 3: and she availed herself of what was there in a
Speaker 3: palace like setting, but.
Speaker 1: There was a library.
Speaker 3: And her statement to me was, after she got done
Speaker 3: looking through what was there, she said they had every
Speaker 3: tax us tax code book.
Speaker 1: In the world.
Speaker 3: And she said, all I can tell you is that
Speaker 3: from the time I was there, which wasn't much, and
Speaker 3: from what she looked through, she said, it was very
Speaker 3: obvious that the United States taxpayers paid They financed the
Speaker 3: Marshall Plan to reconstruct Europe after World War Two deconstructed it.
Speaker 1: So that's all we're.
Speaker 3: Talking about, is the financial ties that this country has.
Speaker 3: We're still paying. We'd never stopped paying taxes or tribute
Speaker 3: to the powers that be. That's all there is to it. So,
Speaker 3: you know, to say that you're gonna get rid of
Speaker 3: the FED is crazy. And you remember, don't you when
Speaker 3: I had that interview with with Bill Still who was
Speaker 3: talking about how powerful the FED was. This is in
Speaker 3: back of his book The Money Masters, right, yeah, and
Speaker 3: you remember, you know where this is going, and he's
Speaker 3: talking about how the FED is so powerful blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But here's Still and this is back.
Speaker 2: In what Oh, no, he did the Jackie Gleeson thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he.
Speaker 3: Says to me, well, you know, he goes, well, well,
Speaker 3: George Bushell will take care of that. This is the
Speaker 3: sun and I and I said to him, but what
Speaker 3: you've said is true about the FED. I don't think
Speaker 3: George's gonna do to a whole lot well yet probably you.
Speaker 2: Know, that's when he did the Hamama.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, you know, people think they got it down,
Speaker 3: but they can't get the whole thing through their head.
Speaker 3: They stop at some point because either they choose not
Speaker 3: to go any further, well they just can't. You know,
Speaker 3: it just doesn't process. But it's the truth. That's the
Speaker 3: way things are. And as you said before, I mean,
Speaker 3: the reason we have admiralty is pretty much the way
Speaker 3: things started from the very beginning with the Phoenicians. You
Speaker 3: needed something to control commerce.
Speaker 1: On the waters.
Speaker 3: We had law of the law of the sea, and
Speaker 3: then the law of the sea was brought in on
Speaker 3: land called admiralty. I mean, that's the history of world
Speaker 3: commerce in fifteen seconds.
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on that the yo, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Think it needed to be a particularly stringent law because
Speaker 2: when you're on the sea, you're alone and far away
Speaker 2: from your government, so they made it peculiarly hard, I think.
Speaker 2: And then of course when you bring that back on
Speaker 2: to the home, to the homeland, then hey, you get this.
Speaker 3: What we have?
Speaker 2: What we have now, this is onerous lot.
Speaker 3: The problem is it is hard, and we're gonna have
Speaker 3: to wrap it up. So I'm gonna give your last shot.
Speaker 3: You got about a couple of minutes. Would I would
Speaker 3: think you would agree that our struggles here as those
Speaker 3: people who are born in the United States of America,
Speaker 3: you want to be the man and woman, the flesh
Speaker 3: person that you are. You'd like to be that alone,
Speaker 3: but you're born in this system and as a result,
Speaker 3: you'd have to deal with that other persona that you
Speaker 3: do have. And this is what we spoke spoke about
Speaker 3: at the beginning of the show. There is the reason
Speaker 3: why on certain documents your name appears in capital letters.
Speaker 3: It is not a style choice. It is legal, and
Speaker 3: that is the other part of you that belongs to
Speaker 3: the corporation. Whether you want to call yourself an employee
Speaker 3: of a slave, of whatever you want to say, but
Speaker 3: that's the way it is. And you you try to
Speaker 3: live your life without being crushed by the other PERSONA.
Speaker 3: And as I think we can see now, it's it's
Speaker 3: becoming tougher and tougher to come up for air, and
Speaker 3: it's going to be that way. And I would assume
Speaker 3: that the only way that this can lead, the only
Speaker 3: place it can lead to with what's happening with us
Speaker 3: right now and will continue at an accelerated rate, is
Speaker 3: a financial collapse to make everybody sit up and pay
Speaker 3: attention to the new Motherland.
Speaker 1: And that's I'll.
Speaker 3: Call it a day for myself there and they'll throw
Speaker 3: it to ethea close up if you would.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the ugly reality is the constitutional republic that
Speaker 2: was this country ended in eighteen sixty eight, and we
Speaker 2: the little people, you and me and Joe Blow and
Speaker 2: Sally Housewife. Since nineteen thirty three, we have had the
Speaker 2: legal status equivalent to the brickmakers, to the brickmaking Hebrews
Speaker 2: in ancient and Sayeroic Egypt. Unfortunately, I have all the
Speaker 2: facts in front of me proving this.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, why is it unfortunate?
Speaker 2: Well, if you know what, like you say, sometimes the
Speaker 2: news just just as so good and.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: You cannot accept it just it doesn't make it untrue
Speaker 2: just because you can't accept it. I'm sorry to report
Speaker 2: that's the way that you know. The only difference is
Speaker 2: though we have had more toys to play with, but
Speaker 2: we it legally, we own nothing and our money is worthless.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this whole system eventually will be revealed for
Speaker 3: what it really is.
Speaker 1: It made me another twenty years. I mean, who knows.
Speaker 3: We are we premature in trying to forecast when things happened.
Speaker 3: But the bottom line is, and I think really this
Speaker 3: is where we stand, and that is if you want
Speaker 3: to know the truth, this is it. You want to
Speaker 3: get caught in illegalities and all the obfuscation, fine, The
Speaker 3: point is the way we have seen our land is
Speaker 3: not as it is. Not our fault, but it's not
Speaker 3: as it is. And people right now are thinking, geez,
Speaker 3: something's wrong, but I will blame it on the other party.
Speaker 3: As long as they stay there, they'll never realize who
Speaker 3: is behind the curtain, and that in fact, there is
Speaker 3: somebody behind the curtain. So we'll wrap it up there,
Speaker 3: we'll pick it up. This is almost going to be
Speaker 3: the next The next audio will be kind of like
Speaker 3: part B to this. As we conclude this part five
Speaker 3: and THEO anything else or can we get out of Dodge.
Speaker 2: We'll get out of Dodge.