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<v Speaker 1>I find myself in a very peculiar position. I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in defending Jerome Powell, which I never thought I

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<v Speaker 1>would do in my life, you know, carry for the

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<v Speaker 1>life of me. I don't understand what the administration, who

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<v Speaker 1>I support, is thinking when they say they want to

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<v Speaker 1>fire Powell and cut interest rates to one percent.

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<v Speaker 3>And welcome. You are listening to and watching the Financial

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<v Speaker 3>Survival Network. I'm your host. Carrie Let's Michael Pento is

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<v Speaker 3>on vacation, although as long as Michael has a phone,

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<v Speaker 3>he's never really on vacation. In fact, he manages hundreds

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<v Speaker 3>of millions of dollars, not with computers but with his iPhone.

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<v Speaker 3>If you could believe it, that's how easy he's got

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<v Speaker 3>the job down to.

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<v Speaker 1>Right Michael, Yeah, I'm in a beautiful Belmore New Jersey

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<v Speaker 1>in the upstairs apartment of a close friend, and I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot we were doing these interview But I'm here, here

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<v Speaker 1>my athletic freaky shirt on, and I'm ready to go.

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<v Speaker 3>So you no, you know what Woody Allen said, ninety

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<v Speaker 3>percent of life has showing up, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm going to show up at the pick a

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<v Speaker 1>ball courts in maybe about a half an hour, so

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<v Speaker 1>let's see what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>All right. I'll say a prayer for you, because everybody

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<v Speaker 3>that I know, except for one or two people, has

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<v Speaker 3>sustained fairly significant injuries from a very low impact, low

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<v Speaker 3>effort sport with jarring lateral movements, studden stops running backwards

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<v Speaker 3>like I don't know how you do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh hey yeah, I'm so Just to digress for a second,

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<v Speaker 1>I had preci gift significant concussion from doing a Frankenstein

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<v Speaker 1>walk backwards and soup pine on my head, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I popped a calf muscle and now I'm nursing a

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<v Speaker 1>broken tendon in my foot as well as of displaced bones. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>pick a bowl is very safe. I suggest everybody do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Just put a hell out.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's about as safe as the bright Line train,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. Just talking a little Florida biz. I wrote

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<v Speaker 3>an article about this, The bright Line is unsafe at

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<v Speaker 3>any speed. We thought there were only one hundred twenty

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<v Speaker 3>six deaths bright Line related since twenty seventeen, but the

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<v Speaker 3>Miami Herald just came out with an expose. It's actually

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and eighty six deaths. So they've been covering

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<v Speaker 3>it up. But I'm not so much worried about the

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<v Speaker 3>carnage on the tracks in Florida. I'm worried about the

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<v Speaker 3>carnage and the tracks coming out of Wall and Broad Street, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the echoes building at the at the Federal Reserve.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So what's what's going on here with the Federal Reserve.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems like they got some pretty luxurious digs there.

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<v Speaker 3>Central banking is good business, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>I find myself in a very peculiar position. I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in defending Jerome Powell, which I never thought I

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<v Speaker 1>would do in my in my life, you know, Kerry,

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<v Speaker 1>For the life of me, I don't understand what the administration,

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<v Speaker 1>who I support, is thinking when they say they want

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<v Speaker 1>to fire Powell and cut interest rates to one percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the curve the funds rate is for four and

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<v Speaker 1>a quarter to four and a half, so it's just

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<v Speaker 1>swing up. We're talking about one percent, which is an

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<v Speaker 1>over you know, a three hundred and twenty five basis

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<v Speaker 1>point rate cut immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess inflation that has wiped out the middle class

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<v Speaker 1>isn't good enough when you have sixty percent of Americans

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<v Speaker 1>that have a networth of one thousand dollars or less.

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<v Speaker 4>Sixty big zero? What are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 1>But do we want to make home prices go up

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<v Speaker 1>even faster and make them ever expensive? I don't understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>So on what premise would you cut interest rates? Let's

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<v Speaker 1>see the unemployment rate is is? I think it's four

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<v Speaker 1>point one or four point two percent is historically very

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<v Speaker 1>very very low. The stock market is that an all

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<v Speaker 1>time record high valuation. Home price to income ratios are

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<v Speaker 1>an all time high. Credits reds are extremely tight, Financial

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<v Speaker 1>conditions are extremely loose. We're not in a recession. GDP

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<v Speaker 1>growth for this quarter is supposed to be about a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit over two percent, and inflation is inflation carry

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<v Speaker 1>has been above the Fed's asinine two percent target for

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<v Speaker 1>fifty months. Right now, If I just told you, what

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<v Speaker 1>if you just heard that, if you came from Mars

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<v Speaker 1>and said, you know, I understand the federal reserves shorter

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<v Speaker 1>is to maintain you know, a level prices, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>stable prices. And I just told you all those things

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<v Speaker 1>and you and I also said that the Fed has

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<v Speaker 1>missed its target to the north, it's two percent target

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<v Speaker 1>to the north for fifty months, and that target is

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<v Speaker 1>moving further away.

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<v Speaker 4>In other words, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Inflation rate is moving further away from the target two.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think the conversation would be. It wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be when are you going to cut rates? It shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>certainly shouldn't be when you're going to lower rates to

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<v Speaker 1>one percent. It's gonna be when you're going to raise

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<v Speaker 1>interest rates.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, and really historically, going back, you know, as

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<v Speaker 3>far back as you can go, really, the rates are

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<v Speaker 3>not out of line. They're kind of normalized. Now, if

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<v Speaker 3>we need zero percent interest to keep this economy going,

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<v Speaker 3>then we've got a real problem here, don't we.

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<v Speaker 4>No, we not.

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<v Speaker 1>If we have a real problem. We have a tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>credit bubble.

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<v Speaker 5>We have an an unbelievable equity bubble two hundred Well,

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<v Speaker 5>the total market cap of equities is now two hundred

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<v Speaker 5>and twelve percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Of GDP, so it's more than double the size of

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<v Speaker 1>the entire US economy. Now, the normal relationship there's around

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<v Speaker 1>ninety to one hundred percent. That's just normal. So that

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<v Speaker 1>means stock prices could drop fifty percent and still be

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<v Speaker 1>above valuation historical valuations. That's how that's how crazy. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you also have you know, the cape ratio, which

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<v Speaker 1>is that I think it's at almost twenty seven or

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven, I forgot where it was anyway, it's astronomically high.

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<v Speaker 1>It's historically speaking, prices, deals ratio is three. Risk premiums

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<v Speaker 1>are negative in the risk premium the inverse of the

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<v Speaker 1>pe ratio, right, Sure, get your earnings yield, and the

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<v Speaker 1>earnings yield is less than what you can earn in

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<v Speaker 1>a T bill. This is all highly unusual record low

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<v Speaker 1>dividend yields. So the stock market's in an epic bubble.

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<v Speaker 1>Home prices are the most expensive they've ever been in history,

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<v Speaker 1>even relate in relation to incomes. And we have a

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<v Speaker 1>massive credit bubble when there's like, you know, trillions of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars of things like private credit, which hardly ever existed before,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, in the previous decades. Now there's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>cottage industry of businesses that can't get loans from a

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<v Speaker 1>bank or float corporate paper, so they get loans from

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the shadow banking system. Yeah, that's a huge

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<v Speaker 1>problem these that's a huge when we have when not

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<v Speaker 1>the not if, when we have a recession, because the

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<v Speaker 1>the the business cycle hasn't been repealed.

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<v Speaker 4>When we have the next versus.

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<v Speaker 1>When we have the next credit crisis or recession, this

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<v Speaker 1>is when reality is going to hit. So it's not if,

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<v Speaker 1>it's when I have a timing model that lets me

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<v Speaker 4>I'm been, I've been you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know in a you know, I have a long short strategy,

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<v Speaker 1>so mostly long, sometimes short. The past few years mostly

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<v Speaker 1>went out long, but holding our nose because we know

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<v Speaker 1>that if you're gonna be one of those people, one

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<v Speaker 1>of those automatic buy and hold dollar course to averaging

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<v Speaker 1>funding their four to one k in as target date fund,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna be down thirty five percent in a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks time, not a few weeks from now, but

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<v Speaker 1>in a few weeks, a truncated period of time, when

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<v Speaker 1>the when the poop hits the bed, we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>down thirty percent in a very quick period of time.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you're gonna panic and call your administrator for

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<v Speaker 1>your four to one K plant and say move my

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<v Speaker 1>plan into cash. And that's what market goes down fifty

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<v Speaker 1>to sixty seventy percent.

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<v Speaker 3>But haven't people been programmed to not behave that way?

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<v Speaker 1>They have been inculcated through the decades to just buy

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<v Speaker 1>and hold. But Carrie uh, stock ownership among Americans has

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<v Speaker 1>never been higher, and the stocked ownership is concentrated mostly

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<v Speaker 1>in people who.

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<v Speaker 4>Are my age or older.

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<v Speaker 1>So you went around in their fifties, like fifties, early sixties,

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<v Speaker 1>or in their retirement ages. Not not not in the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty year old, not in the mean stock people. It's

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<v Speaker 1>our age, yes, approaching retirement or in retirement, Kerry. When

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<v Speaker 1>they're down thirty five percent in their portfolio, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know the exact number, but it's probably around. That's my

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<v Speaker 1>guest to mint. They're gonna exist because they cannot see.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it becomes what you just said, it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>an existential crisis. I am not going to be their

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<v Speaker 1>wife is going to tell them from probably being a

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<v Speaker 1>little sexist here, But if you're a man, your wife's

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<v Speaker 1>going to tell you, Hey, I'm not canceling my trip

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<v Speaker 1>to Europe and I'm not selling my my lake house.

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<v Speaker 4>You can sell.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna sell, and you're gonna sell now and will

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<v Speaker 1>wait for it to settle down. That is going to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is gonna be synergistic. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a death spiral in my opinion. It's just it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of mean reversion. If you believe in nature,

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<v Speaker 1>heats vacuums, this is a mean Listen, this is one

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<v Speaker 1>or two things are gonna happen mathematically certain, Either stought

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<v Speaker 1>preceres are gonna crash. So the ratio that you know

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<v Speaker 1>they're not the enumerator matches the denominator, or they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to stay where they are for a decade not could

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<v Speaker 1>not do anything until the denominator catches up. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>latter scenario never happens in history. It just never has

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<v Speaker 1>happened before. Bubbles burst. They don't just stay bubblicious for

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<v Speaker 1>a decade.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, all right, So uh ah, so you got to

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<v Speaker 3>think what should you be doing now because this appears,

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<v Speaker 3>from what you're saying here, Michael, to be inevitable.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you better.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, if you're you're in one of those

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<v Speaker 1>buy and hold dollar cost averaging rubrics, you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>get the hell out of there as fast as possible.

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<v Speaker 4>You got to put yourself in.

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<v Speaker 1>An active money managuer. It doesn't have to be me.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm I mean, let me speak altruistically. Find

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else besides me. I have plenty of money, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have plenty of money under management. I don't care.

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<v Speaker 4>But find yourself a robust a robust.

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<v Speaker 1>Model that is in the purview of a very honest

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<v Speaker 1>and experienced money manager.

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<v Speaker 4>Does not have to be me.

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<v Speaker 1>But do it for your own retirement sake.

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<v Speaker 3>You need to do it all right, sir.

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<v Speaker 4>You've worked your.

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<v Speaker 1>Entire life to get where you are. Realize where you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Realize the triumvirate of bubbles that we have, unprecedented in history,

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<v Speaker 1>all three of them. Yeah, and be a historian. See

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<v Speaker 1>what has happened, not only in the United States but

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<v Speaker 1>in the past, Carrie, what is it. What does the

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<v Speaker 1>Treasury and particularly the FED have done. They've always solved

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<v Speaker 1>print money. Carry Do it again, do it one more time,

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<v Speaker 1>and see what happens to inflation if they actually start cutting,

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<v Speaker 1>be an absolute disaster. It already is a disaster for

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<v Speaker 1>you can't have a viable nation. So try try now

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<v Speaker 3>See what happens. It ain't gonna be pretty, is it? No?

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<v Speaker 3>So gold, silver, It appears certainly for silver we're on

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<v Speaker 1>No. Now, I've I've I have, so I took a

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<v Speaker 1>but silver too is you I'm not going to argue

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<v Speaker 1>against silver, but you should. You have to get your

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<v Speaker 1>a bull market happening in platinum. You know, for decades

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<v Speaker 1>and decades on end, platinum was more expensive than gold.

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<v Speaker 1>A rarer, more more rare metal, it's a more precious metal.

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<v Speaker 1>It has some industrial components to it as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>that flip that has flipped. So I would not only

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<v Speaker 1>that stackflation like we've never before imagined. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>to have a credit crisis. The playbook is going to

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<v Speaker 1>the past. What's the Pavlovian response from the Fed and

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<v Speaker 1>Treasury borrow print spend or it was automatic stabilizers that

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<v Speaker 1>the trillion trillion now it's now it's two trillion. In

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<v Speaker 1>the party times man, in the good times with full

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<v Speaker 1>employment and record a stock market, it's two trillion. So

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<v Speaker 1>when the automatic stabilizers kick in, the unemployment benefits kick in,

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<v Speaker 1>this deficit is going to go between from from two

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<v Speaker 4>So that means when four.

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<v Speaker 1>To six trillion, where's six trillion dollar annual deficit, and

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<v Speaker 1>and that means the money is going to go directly

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<v Speaker 1>to the people. It's not gonna be like it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>the global financial crisis where you just bail out Wall

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<v Speaker 1>from the Fed. Now this is going to go right

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<v Speaker 1>into the hands of the pockets of the people through

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<v Speaker 1>these through the unemployment insurance that they're gonna get right

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to have inflation, not the way they

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<v Speaker 1>measure it. Stop at nine, it's going to go to nineteen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to be prepared for, because if you're saying to yourself,

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<v Speaker 4>You know, that's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, tell me how you feel about earning five percent

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<v Speaker 1>when inflation is nineteen.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's a that's an existential problem in and of itself, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Garry inflation core inflation rose to two point nine percent

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<v Speaker 1>year over year, Co wrote, I mean, then the morons

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<v Speaker 1>that speak on mainstream financial media when the when the

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<v Speaker 1>The month over month was a little bit better the core.

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<v Speaker 1>But here the core rate of inflation increased. At the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the form reading was two point seven or

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<v Speaker 1>inflation year over year. That's that is that is a

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<v Speaker 1>disastrous conversation to have him. Inflation on the core level

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<v Speaker 1>is spiking, and I want to have a scenario where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm firing the central bank so I can put a

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<v Speaker 1>what I would call it an obsequious sicko fan, a

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<v Speaker 1>puppet of the president, to put rates at one percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what could possibly get wrong here?

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<v Speaker 1>What happened to that stuff? What would happened to the

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<v Speaker 1>housing market? Let me hear here's the scenario. The scenario

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<v Speaker 1>He cuts rates to one percent. And what what happens

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<v Speaker 1>when the long end of the bond market interest rates

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<v Speaker 1>go ballistic? I mean, if that can control the overnight

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<v Speaker 1>in sympathy with that. But let's say, unless they assent

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<v Speaker 1>to buy every single treasury bond issued, like the Bank

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<v Speaker 1>of Japan does, we're gonna have a huge problem with

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<v Speaker 1>the interest rates. And if they do buy everything, we're

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<v Speaker 3>M h yeah, it sounds like we got problems on

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<v Speaker 3>the way here. Huh.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, listen, what.

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<v Speaker 1>When you when you abrogate free markets, when you say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the free market doesn't have to function. We

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<v Speaker 1>could just nineteen eighty seven, just print some money, Greenspan says,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll just print some money. We have, we have a tool,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a technology. We don't need to Why would

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<v Speaker 1>we Why would we make money peg to something like gold?

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<v Speaker 4>Why would we do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, because mine supply of gold is limited, and you

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<v Speaker 1>then they came up with the idea we could just

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<v Speaker 1>we could just live in faeryland. We could just back

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<v Speaker 1>our currency with nothing. We'll back it with the taxing

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<v Speaker 1>authority of the US Treasury and the American military complex.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what will.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then the dollars, you know, crashes. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>go look at what the dollar has done since nineteen thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's purchasing power. And then those people have the nerve

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you that they're they're they're they're in charge

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<v Speaker 1>of protecting the purchasing power of the of the currency.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a comedy routine, Kerry, it's a joke.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is a comedy routine. And you know it's

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<v Speaker 3>that old uh, that old saying. Will Rogers said, every

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<v Speaker 3>time Congress makes a joke, it becomes a law, and

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<v Speaker 3>every time they make a law, it's a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>Right Gary, Let me just I have I had this

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<v Speaker 1>about credit bubbles, total non financial US debt as a

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<v Speaker 1>percentage of GDP is higher today than at the start

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<v Speaker 1>of the global financial crisis and the start of the

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<v Speaker 1>Nasdaq crash in two thousand. So current ratio is two

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty seven percent of GDP total non

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<v Speaker 1>financial debt. In two thousand and seven, before the stocks

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<v Speaker 1>it was two hundred and thirty four percent. And in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand that great recession where the NASDAK lost eight

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<v Speaker 1>percent of its value, it was one hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 1>nine percent. And the current ratio is two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty seven percent. That's your credit bubble. That's your credit bubble.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's no way out of this.

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<v Speaker 1>There isn't any easy way out of it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna try to hyperinflate their way out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But since we haven't adjustable rate mortgage as a as

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<v Speaker 1>A as our you know, everybody said, hey, Janet Yellen,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you know when interest rates were like aero

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<v Speaker 1>point three on the ten year note, why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>like float some thirty year dead out there and finance

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<v Speaker 1>it or maybe even issue a fifty year bond. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess the wasn't any appetite for that, But at least

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<v Speaker 1>they should have really loaded up on that lawn kerry.

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<v Speaker 1>If they're gonna, if they're gonna, if Wall Street's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>supply you with a ten year note that's yielding a

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<v Speaker 1>third of one percent, wouldn't you want to lock in

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<v Speaker 1>those that that's a pretty good rate, right right, Well,

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<v Speaker 6>bills and chill. Well that's now you have to roll

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<v Speaker 6>over those tea bills every single year. Yeah, and that's

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<v Speaker 6>what you have.

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<v Speaker 1>So if if if you really want to know the

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<v Speaker 1>truth as to why President Trump wants that interest rate

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<v Speaker 1>artificially suppressed even further lower, is because it would really

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<v Speaker 1>bring down the interest on the debt. Yeah, with no

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<v Speaker 1>no negative ramifications with housing or real estate or or

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<v Speaker 3>So it's that simple huh yeah. So it's it's all

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<v Speaker 3>about rates, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>All about interest on the debt, which is over a

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<v Speaker 1>trillion dollars already.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you see how? You see how well doge work?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>The Doge roared into town and they really slashed the

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<v Speaker 1>government slashed everything down. I mean, we're all we're good now, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they decided to cut one hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for I was still cutting in theory.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know what they cut.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, those have been run out of town faster than

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<v Speaker 1>the shave has been run out of town. And they

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<v Speaker 1>should be cutting a trillion dollars per We need to

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<v Speaker 1>cut a trillion dollars per andum to get to that

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<v Speaker 1>magical Scott Besson you know, three percent. But guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>we decided to cut one hundred and sixty billion. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're a little bit short, just about eight hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>Just a little, just a little all right? So what

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<v Speaker 3>about bitcoin here?

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<v Speaker 1>Well here, well, you you know you opened the Pandora's

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<v Speaker 1>box here when you talk about Hey, bitcoin, I actually

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<v Speaker 1>liked as as a concept. I hated the I hate

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't buy any of it unfortunately, so I've been

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<v Speaker 1>wrong about the direction of this thing. But the concept

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<v Speaker 1>of the bitcoin originally, or cryptocurrencies in general, was, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's outside the purview of government, and it protects

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<v Speaker 1>and it protects you against a falling US dollar. So

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<v Speaker 1>fast forward in a few years, and of course the

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<v Speaker 1>money on this, on this horrified barcode, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It's just, you know, all bitcoin is your

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<v Speaker 1>private key is a bunch of letters and numbers. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a password that's worth one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen thousand dollars. But okay, let's just let's just talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this for a second. So it goes, it goes

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<v Speaker 1>from basically nothing to one hundred and seventeen thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>per unit. But it got there because it's been bastardized

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<v Speaker 1>by Wall Street. They've co opted and corrupted it. So

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<v Speaker 1>now your your decentralized coin that you think you own

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<v Speaker 1>is completely centralized. It can be taken away from you

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<v Speaker 1>capriciously by the government because they actually know exactly who

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<v Speaker 1>you are.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Wall Street has know your customer rules and anti

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<v Speaker 1>money laundering rules. You own an asset that's pimped by

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street. They know exactly who owns every single one

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<v Speaker 1>of these bitcoins, so they can take it from you.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's no longer it's decentralized. And then to pour

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<v Speaker 1>icing on the cake is or gasoline on the fire,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess would be a better analogy. They say it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's an alternative a dollar, but now they want to

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<v Speaker 1>link it to the US dollar into treasuries by stable coins. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>so the whole concept of this thing has been has

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<v Speaker 1>been obliterated, and they did this so they can pump

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<v Speaker 1>up the stop the bitcoin price to one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen thousand dollars in unit. Now, two more things I

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<v Speaker 1>want to tell you about this. Number one, it is

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<v Speaker 1>hot gold. There's an unlimited number of cryptocurrencies that can

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<v Speaker 1>be created. I do like the blockchain technology, Yeah, extremely useful,

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<v Speaker 1>But to think that the blockchain technology is the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing as a coin that relates gold is ridiculous. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's twenty one million bitcoins, but there's an unlimited

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<v Speaker 1>number of other currencies that could serve the same purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just a Commodityes are commodity and there are

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<v Speaker 1>limitlessons in supply, unlike platinum and unlike gold.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is true. I totally agree with you there.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think there's something else going on with bitcoin

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<v Speaker 3>that we're not going to know. I think there's a

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<v Speaker 3>bitcoin short squeeze coming because you've got a huge synthetic

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<v Speaker 3>derivatives to market there, and you've only got seven percent

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<v Speaker 3>of all the bitcoin ever created that actually free trade,

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<v Speaker 3>which will be substantially less because you've got ETFs. This week,

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<v Speaker 3>two point two billion more went into bitcoin. Eat where

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<v Speaker 3>are they getting all these bitcoin from this when they

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<v Speaker 3>stopped making it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, completely wrong on the price, missed the entire thing.

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<v Speaker 1>This thing much higher. But when you get an unfriendly

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<v Speaker 1>administration in place, and you will, and an unfriendly sec

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<v Speaker 1>and you will in the future, this thing will crash

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<v Speaker 1>because its intrinsic value is maybe closer to one thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars rather than one hundred and seventeen thousand. So just beware.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just not something at this especially now,

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<v Speaker 1>at this price level I'm interested in getting involved with,

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<v Speaker 1>but hey been wrong with both.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting was that I was at the Bitcoin conference and

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<v Speaker 3>it's amazing guy I know who told me to buy

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<v Speaker 3>bitcoin at five, who's never sold one bitcoin, he is

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<v Speaker 3>buying it at a dollar. And let's not forget Michael

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<v Speaker 3>that if you invested ten cents in coin in twenty ten,

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<v Speaker 3>it'd be worth one hundred and eighteen hundred nineteen thousand

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<v Speaker 3>dollars as we're speaking. What he told me is that

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<v Speaker 3>over half the contributions going to the Republican Party are

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<v Speaker 3>coming from crypto bros. So that's I think, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>say are now, Gary.

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<v Speaker 1>You're exactly right, but you know three years from now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, play with it now. The volatility

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<v Speaker 1>attributes to this product are just astronomically off the charts.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just not something i'd like to That's why

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<v Speaker 1>I prefer platinum to silver.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't like that high data. Yeah, Like, can you

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<v Speaker 4>make money in bitcoin? Yeahp hundred percent? Can you still

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<v Speaker 4>make money? Probably? Did I miss everything? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>I did, But beware because you when you have something

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<v Speaker 1>that's supposed to have its value derived from having a decentralized,

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<v Speaker 1>anonymous immutable transaction, and you're to get the value is

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<v Speaker 1>now derived from government.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm the only person I've ever heard.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about I mean, maybe I just don't have it

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<v Speaker 1>in my ears out there, but who have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>heard anybody else say how absolutely absurd?

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<v Speaker 4>This is?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh completely but but bus that doesn't mean you can't

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<v Speaker 3>make money on it, right undred percent?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I maya kopa here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the last person to ask about the future to

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<v Speaker 1>make a bitcoin price, can do you know? For me

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, it'd be it'd be completely inappropriate because

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<v Speaker 1>I've been so wrong on the picture is interesting though,

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<v Speaker 1>but but but caveat emptor here though, They will be

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<v Speaker 1>hell to pay. And it's coming, and it's one day

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<v Speaker 1>because because what bitcoin really is now has become it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a derivative of the stock market. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a higher a derivative on equity. And

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<v Speaker 1>if liquidity ever drives up again, not if when it happens, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when it's gonna it's it's gonna be a disaster for

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<v Speaker 1>the entire space.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Well, I think we'll let it go there.

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<v Speaker 3>We got other things to talk about next time. After

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<v Speaker 3>you've done traveling things about the worst cycle, what's happening

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<v Speaker 3>there in Europe, the euro, the dollar, all that good stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But you'll find Michael's work excellent work. Sign up pentoport

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<v Speaker 3>dot com links in the show notes, and if you

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<v Speaker 3>got a question for Michael myself, shoot me an email

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<v Speaker 3>k l Atcarrie LUTs dot com. Michael, we'll talk to

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<v Speaker 3>you in a month or two. Be well. Always a pleasure, Carrie,

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, thanks.

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