WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:03.879 Let's continue the athletic portion of the radio program with 2 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:06.200 our next guest. It's pit bull in the background, so 3 00:00:06.240 --> 00:00:09.359 you know, it's Zach Harper time on a Tuesday afternoon. 4 00:00:09.400 --> 00:00:11.160 All right, thirty degrees. 5 00:00:11.640 --> 00:00:14.960 It is dumping snow, our biggest snow storm of the year. 6 00:00:15.800 --> 00:00:16.879 What's it like where you're at? 7 00:00:18.440 --> 00:00:20.160 Well, it was really cold this morning when I went 8 00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:23.879 and got coffee, still rolled the windows down because the 9 00:00:23.960 --> 00:00:26.000 dog loves the window down the car, but it was 10 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:29.719 like fifty. I think it's it's I mean, it's really 11 00:00:29.719 --> 00:00:33.240 sunny outside, but I think it's like it's deceptive. It's 12 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:37.679 got to be like sixty six, decept little windy, little wendy. 13 00:00:37.799 --> 00:00:41.119 Yeah here, I mean I walked to the store a 14 00:00:41.159 --> 00:00:41.719 little bit ago. 15 00:00:41.920 --> 00:00:43.039 Definitely needed a hoodie. 16 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:44.320 I was gonna say. 17 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:47.840 I was in Florida a week and a half ago, 18 00:00:47.880 --> 00:00:50.039 down to the golf tournament, and the first day of 19 00:00:50.039 --> 00:00:52.920 the golf tournament it was sixty two and windy, and 20 00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:56.920 I could have been nude and have been happy, but Floridians, 21 00:00:57.039 --> 00:00:57.439 as it. 22 00:00:57.439 --> 00:01:01.479 Were, were like bundled up. Are you soft like that? 23 00:01:01.600 --> 00:01:01.799 Now? 24 00:01:01.880 --> 00:01:04.480 Like if anything blows seventy you gotta have a hoodie? 25 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:05.959 On a and a beanie. 26 00:01:06.439 --> 00:01:07.920 I don't think it's a softness. 27 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:10.959 Like there's a litany of reasons why that's not acceptable, 28 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:13.719 whether it's like being shorts and everything. Like, it's just 29 00:01:14.159 --> 00:01:16.200 like cold is cold. It doesn't matter where you are. 30 00:01:16.280 --> 00:01:19.480 There's colder, but it's still cold. So like, yeah, I've 31 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:21.400 got to put you on if it's below seventy because 32 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:24.599 why would I want to expose myself to those elements. 33 00:01:24.760 --> 00:01:27.400 I think that's softness. I think you've become soft. 34 00:01:28.640 --> 00:01:30.719 I think if you were if you're in seventy five 35 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:33.040 degree weather all the time and then it drops to 36 00:01:33.120 --> 00:01:34.680 sixty five, you get colder. 37 00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:38.359 Well, yes, by definition, sixty five degrees is colder than 38 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:40.959 seventy five degrees, but sixty five degrees in no way, 39 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:43.959 shape or form is legitimately legitimately cold, Zach. 40 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:47.640 It's colder than the surface of mercury. 41 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:49.359 I cannot collide. 42 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:51.599 That sounds like something Trump would say with no way 43 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:52.480 to even back that up. 44 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:55.000 So I had that it's one. It's closer to the Sun, 45 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:56.439 So that's just scientifically true. 46 00:01:56.480 --> 00:01:56.760 Okay. 47 00:01:57.000 --> 00:01:58.280 Trust I've been on. 48 00:01:58.239 --> 00:02:01.760 Space TikTok a lot over the last couple of months. 49 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:03.040 I'm learning a lot about space. 50 00:02:03.079 --> 00:02:04.840 Well, I don't know that I'm learning a lot about space, 51 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:07.280 but I'm I'm finding out like I'm having a lot 52 00:02:07.319 --> 00:02:08.400 of information thrown at me. 53 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:10.840 Okay, all right, fair enough, fair enough. I just know 54 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:12.800 you lived in our market once upon a time. Then 55 00:02:12.840 --> 00:02:14.680 you left us for la and it feels like you've 56 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:16.439 become soft. That's that's all I'm saying. 57 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:18.879 But no, I hated the cold there too. Like it 58 00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:20.919 was fifty five was still cold to me in Salt 59 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:22.400 Lake City. Was still cold to me when I lived 60 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:23.560 in Minneapolis. 61 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:25.240 Like fifty five, sixty sixty five, that's still cold. 62 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:31.240 Minneapolis winters make this look, you know, warm, so you 63 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:34.439 can't complain. And I grew up in the Northeast. I mean, 64 00:02:34.479 --> 00:02:37.319 Northeast winters are hell. They just it's March eighteenth and 65 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:39.879 there's six feet of snow outside, so I'm just bummed out. 66 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:42.680 Yeah, I mean, like, look, I feel bad for you, 67 00:02:42.719 --> 00:02:44.960 but also you know your taxes aren't as bad. 68 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:48.319 Right, Okay, all right, that's enough. That's enough. That'll do, Zach, 69 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:49.560 that'll do all right. 70 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:53.039 Only because it's topical, and I would imagine at some 71 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:57.080 point throughout the course of your career you covered Alex Jensen. 72 00:02:57.199 --> 00:02:59.319 You were able to get to know Alex Jensen. And 73 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:03.159 after nine years is Quinn Snyder's lead assistant, one year 74 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:05.840 with Will and three years in Dallas with Jason Kidd, 75 00:03:06.520 --> 00:03:08.800 Alex Jensen leaves the NBA ranks to take over the 76 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:11.439 University of Utah as their head coach. I just wonder 77 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:14.039 what sort of context you have with this kind of 78 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:16.159 big piece of news that's dropped over the past forty 79 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:17.000 eight hours. 80 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:19.039 Yeah, he was one of those guys where like it 81 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:21.520 was him, there was like who was it was Lamar Skeeter, 82 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:24.520 there was there was Johnny Bryant, right, like there was 83 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:29.000 these these these assistants under Quinn who were just renowned 84 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:31.240 as like these great development guys, right and it was 85 00:03:31.280 --> 00:03:33.039 part of the reason why the Jazz are so good 86 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:36.680 at developing players is they just have these incredible coaches. 87 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:38.759 I think I was a little shocked, like he never 88 00:03:39.199 --> 00:03:42.120 he never seemed to get much buzz around head coaching 89 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:45.800 positions in the NBA, which was weird to me because 90 00:03:45.840 --> 00:03:48.759 he was so well liked within the organization and even 91 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:51.319 outside the organization. People talked about him in a very 92 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:54.280 high regard. But you know, some guys just just have 93 00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:57.080 those just have those situations where they don't get that. 94 00:03:57.120 --> 00:03:58.360 I don't know if that's an agent thing. I don't 95 00:03:58.400 --> 00:03:59.680 know if that's an interview thing. I don't know what 96 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:03.240 that is is. But the idea of him going and 97 00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:06.439 being the head coach at a major program, it makes sense. 98 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:09.560 Like if he's as good at at development and you 99 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:11.800 never really know this stuff, you know, kind of from 100 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:13.400 the outside looking in, you just kind of go off 101 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:16.600 what you see and what you hear, you know, second 102 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:18.920 and third hand. But if he's as good as or 103 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:21.199 even half as good as they as they would rave 104 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:24.040 about him with, like you throw him into a college 105 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:26.920 environment with young players who need that skill development and 106 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:29.079 need to prepare for the NBA, he's he's going to 107 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:30.639 be as good as anybody at the college level. 108 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:32.920 I wonder since you were around here at the time, 109 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:36.000 because you hear these stories and look, the bottom line 110 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:39.199 is what a player is able to improve in such 111 00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:42.199 a stark, rapid fashion. Most of the credit does go 112 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:46.160 to the player. But Dennis Lindsay on My show use 113 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:48.959 the term circus freak to describe the way that Rudy 114 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:52.680 Gobert was treated at the NBA combine, and then Rudy's 115 00:04:52.720 --> 00:04:55.639 rookie year. I remember what, like, can he run up 116 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:58.120 and down the floor without snapping a leg and half 117 00:04:58.160 --> 00:04:59.680 like it didn't look like it was going to work 118 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:02.959 at all. And then throughout the course of really one 119 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:05.759 off season, Rudy went from like a two way G 120 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:08.240 League guys that's going to work to a defensive star, 121 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:12.040 wart Hall of Fame player, multi time All Star, and 122 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:14.360 Defensive Player of the Year. And most people that watch 123 00:05:14.439 --> 00:05:18.319 that development up close talk about Alex's hand in that. 124 00:05:18.680 --> 00:05:22.000 Alex also worked with Walker Kessler for a year and 125 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:24.279 then went on down to Dallas and worked with Lively 126 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:26.920 and Gaffer and those other big So do you have 127 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:30.040 any insight as to kind of the developmental side of 128 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:32.079 what Alex Jensen has been able to bring to a 129 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:33.759 lot of really good players in the pros? 130 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:36.160 Yeah, I mean I think you know, if you can 131 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:39.279 be especially in today's game, because we have seen this 132 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:43.160 resurgent resurgence of big men, if you can be kind 133 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:45.519 of a big man whisper of sorts right and at 134 00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:48.040 the college level, it's going to be very important. 135 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:49.319 It's a big skill. 136 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:52.519 Like I always laughs because like just one of the 137 00:05:52.519 --> 00:05:57.240 things that drives me the most crazy, is like is 138 00:05:57.279 --> 00:06:02.480 like basketball influencer trainers on social media, right man, Like 139 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:05.680 like just I have a real, real hatred and that 140 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:07.639 just the entire culture and everything. And I'm not saying 141 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:10.319 they don't do anything, but yes, you work for someone, 142 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:13.000 you work with someone for like a certain amount of 143 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:15.839 time over two three months, maybe four months, considering how 144 00:06:15.879 --> 00:06:19.240 long yourross season is, and you sure you learn skills 145 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:22.759 and you learn things or whatever. But to me, I 146 00:06:22.839 --> 00:06:25.120 never look at that as like actual development. What I 147 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:27.079 look at is like, what were you like that eight 148 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:30.079 months you were with your NBA team? And so when 149 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:32.720 you see someone like Rudy, like I bet ruty. First 150 00:06:32.720 --> 00:06:34.439 of all, like you said, like the player gets the 151 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:36.120 majority of the credit, and they have to be willing 152 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:38.079 to work, but they also have to be taught what 153 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:40.480 to work on. I can go shoot a thousand jumpers 154 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:43.680 in the gym all day and get pretty decent at it. 155 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:44.560 But if I'm not. 156 00:06:44.560 --> 00:06:46.920 Being taught the proper way to apply all this to 157 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:49.279 an NBA game or to a basketball game, it doesn't 158 00:06:49.279 --> 00:06:52.160 really mean anything. Right, Like the application of that, and 159 00:06:52.160 --> 00:06:56.399 I think from what I heard, the application of not 160 00:06:56.519 --> 00:06:59.160 just the skills, but the awareness on here's what you 161 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:01.560 need to do in these situations and how you. 162 00:07:01.560 --> 00:07:02.319 Need to adapt. 163 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:06.199 That's where Alex Jensen seemed to like really shine with 164 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:08.439 Rudy in particular, because that's what you know, what I 165 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:11.439 was around for a couple of years, and so that 166 00:07:11.439 --> 00:07:13.639 that application of it, which I think is the biggest 167 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:16.199 skills set. Like I was, I was thoughting this is 168 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:18.040 this is gonna sound like a name dropping and it 169 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:20.040 is a little bit. But I was talking to Dominique 170 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:24.120 Wilkins years ago before a game in Atlanta, and he, 171 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:27.120 you know, he was talking about, you know, yeah, all 172 00:07:27.120 --> 00:07:30.160 these guys learn all this, all these basketball skills, but 173 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:32.480 they don't learn how to play right, Like, they don't 174 00:07:32.519 --> 00:07:34.279 learn how to play and the off season, you know, 175 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:36.120 these veterans in the eighties and nineties, like they would 176 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:38.759 just go and actually play basketball, and that's how they 177 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:41.839 learned how to get better at basketball. And so learning 178 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:45.199 the application of the skill matters way more than learning 179 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:47.480 the skill itself. And I think Alex Jensen is the 180 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:50.319 guy that teaches you how to adapt to the game 181 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:51.000 of basketball. 182 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:54.560 Do you think we'll see more because you know, college 183 00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:59.439 basketball now has moved into this space where it does 184 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:02.079 mirror of pros in a way that it didn't even 185 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:05.680 four or five years ago. And it was always a 186 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:08.680 rare thing for a coach to give up the pro 187 00:08:08.759 --> 00:08:11.000 life to go back to college. And the only time 188 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:13.040 it happened is if you didn't really have any other choice, 189 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:14.360 like a John. 190 00:08:14.199 --> 00:08:16.199 Calipari or Rick Patina or what have you. 191 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:19.600 And you know, ultimately, the days of taking a flight 192 00:08:19.720 --> 00:08:22.439 with two stops in a layover, then renting a car 193 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:25.519 to drive to the outskirts of Iowa to see a 194 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:30.040 prospect aren't necessarily the deal in college anymore. In the NBA, 195 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:31.480 you know, the deal, you fly in the sky in 196 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:33.759 a five star hotel, you eat lobster and steak, and 197 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:35.879 you land and you check in your five star hotel 198 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:37.000 and life. 199 00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:38.480 Is pretty good even when you're on the road. 200 00:08:38.919 --> 00:08:41.600 But the way the college game is going, it feels 201 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:44.679 like there's been a little bit more of a willingness 202 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:47.840 from pro coaches to look at, you know, college gigs. 203 00:08:47.840 --> 00:08:49.200 Do you think this is the beginning of a bit 204 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:49.679 of a trend. 205 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:53.360 Yeah, I mean, I think ultimately there are just so 206 00:08:53.399 --> 00:08:57.320 many more jobs, right, Like, there's thirty teams in the NBA, right, 207 00:08:57.399 --> 00:09:01.000 and there's what one hundred and something one hundred and 208 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:03.519 twenty one hundred and thirty D one schools or maybe 209 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:05.720 that's even low. There might even be more important that 210 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:08.639 in terms of the programs and so one, the opportunity 211 00:09:08.679 --> 00:09:11.399 is greater, but two, like, yeah, I mean it is. 212 00:09:12.120 --> 00:09:16.639 It is becoming such a business, like an overt business 213 00:09:17.039 --> 00:09:19.080 at the college level. I do think guys that are 214 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:20.919 if you don't get that shot in the next few years, 215 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:23.000 if you're not that hot name like a you know, 216 00:09:23.039 --> 00:09:25.840 like Charles Lee was before he went to Charlotte or 217 00:09:25.960 --> 00:09:28.240 Darvin ham was before he got the Lakers gig and everything, like, 218 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:30.440 if you're not that hot name, you do have to 219 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:32.759 start looking to the college level, and the money's going 220 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:35.720 to be there, and it's gonna look a lot like 221 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:37.440 at least in terms of the business of it all. 222 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:39.440 It's getting players, it's gonna look a lot like the 223 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:40.120 NBA level. 224 00:09:40.600 --> 00:09:41.360 You know, it's funny. 225 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:44.159 I knew that the number you dropped was low, and 226 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:46.919 based off of the knowledge that you dropped of the 227 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:50.200 temperature of the surface of mercury. I know numbers are hard, 228 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:55.039 but three hundred and fifty two D one program, Zach, 229 00:09:55.200 --> 00:09:55.840 that's wild. 230 00:09:56.120 --> 00:09:57.080 I mean good ones. 231 00:09:57.480 --> 00:09:59.399 No, that's fair, that's fair, but it's fine. 232 00:09:59.480 --> 00:10:03.159 But you're point about just employment, right, like is well taken. 233 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:05.279 You got to get a gig and if at some 234 00:10:05.399 --> 00:10:07.720 point if you run out of NBA opportunities, I guess 235 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:10.399 the college game these days maybe is a better fallback 236 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:12.039 option than it was back in the day. 237 00:10:12.679 --> 00:10:15.159 Yeah, and you're looking okay, if there's your three fift yard, 238 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:17.879 you're looking at more than ten times the amount right 239 00:10:17.919 --> 00:10:20.919 right in terms of employment, Like yeah, that's you know, 240 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:24.080 they're not all going to be a Utah or a 241 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:27.000 Kentucky or whatever. You know, these major programs that can 242 00:10:27.159 --> 00:10:29.559 that can spend money. But I mean we we've seen 243 00:10:29.639 --> 00:10:32.840 so many times these guys make their way up through 244 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:35.679 the ranks. Like you're not using this as necessarily this 245 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:38.759 is my you know, next twenty years, like it might 246 00:10:38.799 --> 00:10:40.879 just be your next four or five. You know, I 247 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:43.759 think plenty of coaches have that in mind of I'll 248 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:46.399 make a name for myself and then we'll see what happens. 249 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:50.200 What's uh, what's the difference in the dating scene La 250 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:50.840 and Salt Lake? 251 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:56.519 Oh man, that's the whole, that's the whole. 252 00:10:56.519 --> 00:11:01.120 Different show. I mean they like it's it's a it's 253 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:01.879 a cesspool. 254 00:11:02.879 --> 00:11:05.200 It's just the worst it is. 255 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:06.519 It's so weird. 256 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:08.200 I can't even begin to tell you, Like, it's such 257 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:15.440 a it's such a weird place to be, like just 258 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:17.679 talking to people like like and I just think I 259 00:11:17.720 --> 00:11:21.960 think society in general is broken in terms of communication, 260 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:25.399 but there are I think, because there are so many 261 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:28.519 options here that people just don't know how to interact 262 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:30.639 with each other anymore. Like it's almost like like we 263 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:34.000 weren't meant as a as a as a being to 264 00:11:34.159 --> 00:11:36.799 have this much information in these many things and in 265 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:39.159 front of us. I actually saw this this video online 266 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:41.399 the other day that I thought was perfectly put there, 267 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:44.720 Like we were meant to see our reflection maybe four 268 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:47.159 times in our life, like in a pond, and now 269 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:49.799 we see each we see ourselves constantly, and we're not 270 00:11:49.879 --> 00:11:51.799 meant for this kind of information. I actually think it. 271 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:54.399 I think we've gotten to a point because of technology. 272 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:57.279 It has broken everybody and so just everywhere you are, 273 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:01.480 You're like everyone in this side away is broken, but 274 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:03.240 LA is just a different kind of broken. 275 00:12:04.279 --> 00:12:07.879 More success Zach Harper as a single male and and 276 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:10.559 success can be defined on however you define it. 277 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:12.679 I'm not here to judge, but Salt Lake or La. 278 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:15.240 Oh well, I wasn't a single man in Salt Lake, 279 00:12:15.559 --> 00:12:17.159 so that that wasn't. 280 00:12:17.000 --> 00:12:18.039 That wasn't the scenario. 281 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:20.399 I moved there with somebody and moved out of there 282 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:20.919 with somebody. 283 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:23.240 But I would say. 284 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:30.320 Pre COVID in La was fish in a barrel. Couldn't 285 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:33.960 have liked, couldn't have been easier to to get dates. 286 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:37.320 Since then, it has definitely gotten to be jumping through 287 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:41.360 more hoops, and these days it's it's I mean, it's 288 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:44.039 just it's just getting people out of their homes. It's 289 00:12:44.120 --> 00:12:47.440 difficult in general, right, even the people I know who 290 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:47.720 want to. 291 00:12:47.720 --> 00:12:49.840 Date, like they're just like, ah'd be bothered. 292 00:12:49.960 --> 00:12:52.200 Well, And I can't even blame anybody because I don't 293 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:53.720 want to leave my house either. I mean I just 294 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:55.200 kind of think it's where we're at now. 295 00:12:55.919 --> 00:12:57.559 Yeah, And I just you know, you keep waiting for 296 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:01.320 that like that hot postal worker like door dash person 297 00:13:01.360 --> 00:13:03.240 to like, you know, fall in love with I just 298 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:03.600 not here. 299 00:13:03.799 --> 00:13:05.639 Keep waiting, pal. I don't know that you're gonna run 300 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:09.000 into the hot door dash. I mean, look, it is LA. 301 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:12.919 I think My experience is most people in the service 302 00:13:12.960 --> 00:13:14.960 industry are there to try to find some dreams. 303 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:16.159 So maybe who knows, Zach. 304 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:20.200 And in Los Angeles, maybe the door dash dating community 305 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:22.200 is more vibrant than I understand. 306 00:13:22.480 --> 00:13:27.960 Let me tell you the service industry in terms of waiters, waitresses, bartenders, 307 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:30.559 that's still that's still the spot to go. The apps 308 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:31.919 and all that other stuff is just crap. 309 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:33.519 Yeah, no, not fair enough. 310 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:35.559 And I just because you brought up the whole like 311 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:40.159 basketball trainer, influencer culture and yeah, my favorite, Like I 312 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:42.879 think influencer culture is a pathetic thing that needs to 313 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:45.399 go away, period. But I think my favorite drifters are 314 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:48.279 dating coaches, right, I think those are my favorite drifters 315 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:48.720 right now. 316 00:13:49.120 --> 00:13:51.120 Oh my god, you're so right. 317 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:53.360 And and just to influence the culture because. 318 00:13:53.159 --> 00:13:55.799 I go to this like very I don't I don't 319 00:13:55.799 --> 00:13:58.039 necessarily buy anything there. I just go to like check out, 320 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:00.320 you know, the Devorces with my dog every day. But 321 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:03.120 I go to you know Arawon sure, yeah, yeah, So 322 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:05.840 I'll go sit outside. There's like this beautiful area outside 323 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:07.720 of Arawon. Every day I'll go and hang out there 324 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:09.039 in the morning with my dog. It's one of the 325 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:10.639 places we go to just get him outside of the 326 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:12.240 house before we have to be inside while I work 327 00:14:12.279 --> 00:14:15.799 all day. And recently there's been this thing in Arawon 328 00:14:15.840 --> 00:14:19.879 where there's this Japanese strawberry. They sell a single strawberry. 329 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:23.559 It's nineteen dollars for one strawberry. And so I've seen 330 00:14:23.639 --> 00:14:26.960 all these people like instagramming it and put it on 331 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:29.720 their phone and like everything. And I saw these two 332 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:33.720 women this weekend, these these two hot Russian women who 333 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:35.879 were like doing some kind of instagram thing for it, 334 00:14:36.120 --> 00:14:37.519 and they were just like, yeah, it wasn't worth it. 335 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:39.480 I'm like, this is where I live. 336 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:43.080 This is the worst, absolutely the worst. 337 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:46.000 Jeez man, how far we have fallen. 338 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:49.120 Goodness, gracious, anyway, let's talk more basketball. 339 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:49.879 We can move on. 340 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:54.919 Let's see here, there's just nothing really interesting to talk 341 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:57.639 about when it comes to the jazz. I do wonder 342 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:01.639 you know, you're a guy that pays attention to prospects 343 00:15:01.639 --> 00:15:04.159 in the draft, and I don't know if we're high 344 00:15:04.159 --> 00:15:06.720 speed ahead to you know, I've talked to you about 345 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:08.840 this before, like with the Wamba Yama year, when you 346 00:15:08.879 --> 00:15:11.399 would hear a couple of like guys trying to be different, Like, well, 347 00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:13.960 I kind of like, Scoot, You're like, don't do that, right? 348 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:17.360 Are are we in an area at all where there's 349 00:15:17.399 --> 00:15:19.559 any doubt about the top of the draft or is 350 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:21.240 it Cooper flag and everybody else? 351 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:23.639 I think it is Cooper flag and everybody else. But 352 00:15:23.720 --> 00:15:25.799 I do think I think you'll get some of that, 353 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:30.600 especially like if Duke gets knocked out early or or 354 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:32.279 Cooper Flagg. You know, he hurt his ankle, So if 355 00:15:32.320 --> 00:15:35.000 he doesn't have a good showing or something, you might 356 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:38.559 start getting some people going Dylan Harper, Ace Bailey whatever. 357 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:41.960 I do think Dylan Harper's awesome. Ace Bailey people have 358 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:44.720 kind of cooled off on He was maybe more of 359 00:15:44.799 --> 00:15:49.120 a contender for this a year ago, and you know, 360 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:51.080 Rutgers just just didn't have the year I think people 361 00:15:51.080 --> 00:15:53.639 thought they were going to have, and so Ace Bailey 362 00:15:53.720 --> 00:15:56.720 maybe can grab some momentum at some point leading up 363 00:15:56.720 --> 00:15:59.120 to the to the NBA Draft. But I do think 364 00:15:59.159 --> 00:16:03.600 it's Cooper flag or bust. I think there's still you know, 365 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:06.240 Edgecomb's interesting. He might he might put on like a 366 00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:08.799 show if if Baylor can make a decent run, which 367 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:11.159 I actually think they would have to go through Duke probably, 368 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:13.559 I think if I remember the bracket correctly, so you know, 369 00:16:13.600 --> 00:16:16.799 maybe maybe Edgecomb makes a name for himself. I really 370 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:19.440 like the big guy from Duke Malwac Like I think 371 00:16:19.720 --> 00:16:21.840 I think he's someone that I'm not saying he's this 372 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:24.000 type of player, but he reminds me a little bit 373 00:16:24.039 --> 00:16:26.399 of Joel Embiid in the sense of, like, here's a 374 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:28.679 guy that we don't really know a whole lot about. 375 00:16:28.679 --> 00:16:31.919 He's super skilled, he hasn't played basketball that long, and 376 00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:33.960 he's kind of come out of nowhere for a major program. 377 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:37.000 Like I think he could really make a name for himself, 378 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:38.360 but it's it's still Cooper. 379 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:39.159 Yeah. 380 00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:42.440 And it feels like that's the consensus among people that 381 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:44.919 cover the draft on a daily basis in a way 382 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:49.159 that I just don't right. So here, here's uh interesting 383 00:16:49.240 --> 00:16:51.559 dynamic of the market. Sarah Toad desra News Front of 384 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:55.879 the Show wrote a piece last week and it kind 385 00:16:55.879 --> 00:16:57.759 of felt like she was talking to somebody in the 386 00:16:57.879 --> 00:17:01.320 organization to further an air where now the whole thing 387 00:17:01.360 --> 00:17:04.400 is like, hey, we're just starting the rebuild, because the 388 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:06.279 past three years was a tear down. 389 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:08.519 It was not not a rebuild. 390 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:10.559 We're just starting the rebuild because the past three years 391 00:17:10.599 --> 00:17:14.599 was a tear down. I find that hard to stomach 392 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:17.160 because the Spurs were able to pull off a rebuild 393 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:20.359 right away. Like really, I don't know, and Sarah's great. 394 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:22.400 I'm not knocking on Sarah at all. It just kind 395 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:24.799 of felt like the organization trying to get this narrative 396 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:27.759 out there, like, hey, now the rebuild begins, not in 397 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:30.519 the past three years we've been tearing it down. And 398 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:33.400 even Zach, if they luck into that number one pick 399 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:35.720 and grab Cooper flag, there's a feel in the market 400 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:38.559 that next year is going to feel a lot like 401 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:41.400