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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to episode five sixty three of five and Dive.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Thursday, July sixteenth. I'm your host, Craig Goldstein,

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<v Speaker 1>joined as usual by Patrick Dubuke and Jeffrey pattern Astro.

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<v Speaker 1>The big update here is that we've recorded so many

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<v Speaker 1>podcasts on members of my family's birthday. We're so close

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<v Speaker 1>to my birthday, but that is tomorrow, so we are

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<v Speaker 1>not recording on a member of my family family's birthday mine,

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<v Speaker 1>but we are very close to it, So continue in

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<v Speaker 1>the streak. Jeffrey, I want to get your thoughts on

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<v Speaker 1>the World Cup.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Like I don't so. I watched you going

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<v Speaker 2>to Argentina yesterday and I do not have like I

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<v Speaker 2>have a you know, association with sheffil Wednesday. I have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of expat friends who you know, pull for England.

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<v Speaker 2>Several of them were at the game yesterday, but uh,

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<v Speaker 2>like it was one of those games where it's like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm watching it, I'm just like you fucking assholes, like

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<v Speaker 2>you deserve like not the fans like they're like, just

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<v Speaker 2>like what are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>You fired Garrett Southgate to replace him with Thomas Tukele,

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<v Speaker 2>who did the exact same thing. Once you got a

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<v Speaker 2>one goal lead like late in the.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm I'm just discovering now. I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>exonerate Toukel, but I just found out this morning right

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<v Speaker 1>before yeah recording, honestly that both Kane and Tukel said

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<v Speaker 1>after they scored the goal, the only thing they talked

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<v Speaker 1>about was being more aggressive, like to continue to be

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<v Speaker 1>on offense, and that.

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<v Speaker 2>He pulled attacking players.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was late. So the explanation being given is

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<v Speaker 1>that the players weren't doing it right, that the players

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<v Speaker 1>basically were playing scared and so and I'm not I

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<v Speaker 1>think this is the wrong move, but I but at

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<v Speaker 1>that point he said, well, if you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>do it like I'm just going to lean in and

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<v Speaker 1>put actual defenders back there. If you're only going to play.

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<v Speaker 2>This is literally the job of the coach and the

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<v Speaker 2>captain to get them to that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be as I said, I think at that

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<v Speaker 1>point you have to assert authority and say if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to listen to me, here are some people

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<v Speaker 1>that will. And I was like, you put it like

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<v Speaker 1>you say, like he put in dan Burn and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>but like you left Rashford, you subbed Rashford in in

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<v Speaker 1>the ninetieth minute, yeah or whatever, right, Like they had

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<v Speaker 1>subs that they could have gone to. He could have

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<v Speaker 1>done some of both or whatever, but he didn't. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not trying to exonerate him, but I

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<v Speaker 1>I until just minutes ago, I had thought this was

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<v Speaker 1>an entirely like his plan.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, which is a very bad plan because you know

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<v Speaker 2>which you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Giving possession over over that long period of time. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just Argentina. I the did you have any

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on France, Spain.

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<v Speaker 2>Spain is just I think Spain had weirdly gotten a

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<v Speaker 2>little underrated at this tournament because I mean they're the

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<v Speaker 2>reigning the best team, right and they're the reigning European champions.

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<v Speaker 2>They just beat France in the Euros in a very

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<v Speaker 2>similar way, and like you can look at France and

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<v Speaker 2>be like, okay, like a lot like Barcola and Elise

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<v Speaker 2>are better than they were two years ago, right like

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously Boppe was having a great tournament all along,

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<v Speaker 2>but like Spain, just it's such a deep team. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and like unlike every other mountain, like England, but unlike

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<v Speaker 2>most teams, like they go up one and they went

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<v Speaker 2>up one nothing fairly early. Right, they have the penalty

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<v Speaker 2>in the first half, but they're just gonna be like

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna like we're not gonna park the bus, We're

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna keep the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean that's that's the thing about this, right,

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<v Speaker 1>is that you complete defense by having possession. Right, It's

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<v Speaker 1>not it's not just it's not very field.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I mean I think from again, and I am

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<v Speaker 1>I am an uneducated yeah, soccer watcher generally speaking, and

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<v Speaker 1>I do love international tournaments. Like Spain I think has

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<v Speaker 1>consistently been the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Team, right. I mean there's always the the criticism of Spain,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, really in between their sort of golden generation

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<v Speaker 2>from two thousand and eight to twenty twelve and the

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<v Speaker 2>current generation has been like they just try to pass

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<v Speaker 2>the ball into the net, right, Like there's no they

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<v Speaker 2>never have a strikes without without product. Yeah, and like

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<v Speaker 2>they're still kind of like that, like you can see

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<v Speaker 2>that bubbling. I'm like they don't. They're not always as

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<v Speaker 2>aggressive as they could be. Obviously coubo Verdet took this

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<v Speaker 2>thing out of it, but like couple Verdi like just

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<v Speaker 2>have been like one of the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Teams in the tournaments through ninety minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like they might have just been one of the

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<v Speaker 2>better teams at the tournament. Yeah, but like the Portugal

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<v Speaker 2>game wasn't great, right, Like they just kind of did

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<v Speaker 2>enough to win, like they never like and like France,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they had their credits them to France have

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<v Speaker 2>really got out of second gear and in this game,

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<v Speaker 2>like they just the Spain's midfield just dominated, like they

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<v Speaker 2>just you.

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<v Speaker 1>And you and I were I mean the the Pedro goal,

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<v Speaker 1>the given the give and go was that was gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 1>I do someone someone said during the France game that

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<v Speaker 1>like their their strategy is kind of like we have

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<v Speaker 1>the best overall talent, like yeah, they'll think hopefully they'll

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<v Speaker 1>figure it out, right and not the worst strategy, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Deschamps has never played particularly exciting football, right, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>been very effective, right, Like they had made back to

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<v Speaker 2>back World Cup finals and won one of them. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he was I believe he was the manager when

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<v Speaker 2>they lost to Portugal in the finals of Euros. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that for sure though, it was a ways back.

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<v Speaker 2>But like obviously he's they have a very good tournament record.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think you're starting to see the obviously it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to take over. Now I'm curious, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he kind of has the real Madrid of

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<v Speaker 2>international soccer with the amount of talent in that team.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll see what he can what he can do

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<v Speaker 2>with it going forward, I guess. But I thought Spain

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<v Speaker 2>like just like, was the better team and deserve to win,

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<v Speaker 2>like was very was very a business, very business like

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<v Speaker 2>when for them, yeah yeah, they.

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<v Speaker 1>Just took care of it, and Argentina is just h

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<v Speaker 1>I said this online, but it's the call an ambulance,

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<v Speaker 1>but not for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Six Knicks comps to yes, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's again I root for Argentina, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to be by like. I think that was

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<v Speaker 1>a combination of some specific qualities about Argentina and England

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<v Speaker 1>giving look, giving all the room for those qualities to

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<v Speaker 1>come to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Fort like still has to pick out the top corner there,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's not like he had time and space to

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<v Speaker 2>do it, but it's still not an easy shot, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Like exactly, and look like they hit the they had.

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<v Speaker 2>Their opportunity, they hit the post like they Also.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought England was the better team really right until

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<v Speaker 1>they parked the box. Yeah, I thought they were the

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<v Speaker 1>better team and they get they gave them that. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was given away by him.

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<v Speaker 2>They never also except they never place. They never play

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<v Speaker 2>like as good a team as they are, right, Like

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<v Speaker 2>they could play England, like they could play like Spain

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<v Speaker 2>and continue to try to grind possession with the lead.

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<v Speaker 2>They could play like Argentina and pressed with lee. Now

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<v Speaker 2>that Arteina have had a ton.

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<v Speaker 1>Of leads well right and then, and that was when

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<v Speaker 1>they were good, when they were pressing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like they have the talent to do it now

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<v Speaker 2>they their back line is shaky, like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>their there's like some fitness like Declan Rice wasn't fully fit,

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<v Speaker 2>Sames wasn't fully fit, Soccer couldn't play. But there were

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<v Speaker 2>like issues and a lot of that they were carried

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<v Speaker 2>basically by belling him and Cane for large portions of

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<v Speaker 2>the of the tournament. But like I mean, like sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>that's how international soccer is, like your two world class players.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like that's a lot of what Argentina is doing

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<v Speaker 2>right now too, and like a lot of what France

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<v Speaker 2>was doing like that that is you know, there's not

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of like Greece winning the Euros out there.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, like I thought it was just one of

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<v Speaker 2>those games where and also I've like watched Wednesday do

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<v Speaker 2>this for years too, so I just like see it coming,

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<v Speaker 2>like why are you It's very difficult to defend like

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<v Speaker 2>that for thirty thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you can do And that was I watched some

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff where a lot of the you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of former players on these various pairs.

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<v Speaker 2>And they had no outlet that they made no attempt

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<v Speaker 2>even when they like got the even when like Bellingham

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<v Speaker 2>got the ball clearer run, every goalkick was like straight

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<v Speaker 2>out of play, like they were.

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<v Speaker 1>Not trying to And it's that's one thing for five

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<v Speaker 1>to ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, it's if you want to do that. When it's

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five minutes, bring on dan Burne Park the bus.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure that if you're still up one, like, it's very hard,

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<v Speaker 2>it gets harder the team, you know, the Argentina has

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<v Speaker 2>to take more chance. At that point, Argentina had like,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, they're confident they can come back, they've

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<v Speaker 2>done it a bunch, but also like they know they

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<v Speaker 2>have time, they have so much time, and all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden they were doing a good job generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 2>they're denying Messy the ball or bodying up on him

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<v Speaker 2>when he got it, and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>you give him that much time in space, like well, when.

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<v Speaker 1>They moved him, they moved and yeah, credit to to

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<v Speaker 1>Scloni Scaloney, thank you. They moved him out to the

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<v Speaker 1>right side, out of the middle. Yeah, and he had

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<v Speaker 1>a little more room than than to work with.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, no, I he was almost playing like right

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<v Speaker 2>back at times in their formation, like he was drafting Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't know what the formation was at

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<v Speaker 1>various points, but it was. Yes, it's so many, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, the the Spain France game was very business

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<v Speaker 1>like every Argentina game has been a banger ultimately, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it I don't know, very fun, very fun. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>to our listeners for indulging us on this, But I

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<v Speaker 1>honestly I don't. I messaged, I messaged Jeff some, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I have been saving it for for the pops. Actually, Patrick, welcome,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back. How is Deck?

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<v Speaker 3>It's Deck?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>I I do wonder if people to listen to the

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<v Speaker 2>show are confused.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently the Discord has just alerted us to the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that people aren't confused. Patrick is is not a deck

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<v Speaker 3>building game. But it's not. It's it is. Yes, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a physical deck. This is this is the original deck building.

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<v Speaker 2>The original deck building game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like any like, is there any motivation for the

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<v Speaker 2>deck for deck.

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<v Speaker 3>For like a personal motives like this is no one

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<v Speaker 1>No one read the article that went up today. If

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<v Speaker 1>you if you want to learn more, if you read

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<v Speaker 1>the Lance mccullors junior, Yeah, transaction transaction analysis.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically, the thing about the deck is that every spring

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<v Speaker 3>in the deck. Now the deck is.

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<v Speaker 2>See I was also confused. I thought you were putting

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm well constantly the deck of the Yes, yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>So every every year I paid the deck tax and

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen and went okay, well I better just like redo.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole when he's not the picture there's like, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>this looks like a half finished deck. That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>It is nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the part that was finished, was finished a

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the deck needs one more coat of paint to

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<v Speaker 3>stain it, and the color a little embarrassing. I was

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<v Speaker 3>too like redwood that isn't actually red, like it's redwood

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<v Speaker 3>And so we picked out a color and I started painting,

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<v Speaker 3>I like this color. It's pink A yeah, I can't

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<v Speaker 3>very sad. But we do get like, it's the first coat,

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<v Speaker 3>so I can just put a second first coat, no

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<v Speaker 3>real loss. But I so, just to text myself, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>it was I really this off picking the color because

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<v Speaker 3>want it to be down light. So I took a

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<v Speaker 3>paint card from the Harbor Store and I brought it

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<v Speaker 3>home and I'm looking at the paint card, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it just screwed up. Maybe I can get my

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<v Speaker 3>money back, Like this color is not the color on

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<v Speaker 3>the deck. And I go outside and I'm holding up

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<v Speaker 3>the paint card. I'm like, yeah, no, this is wrong,

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<v Speaker 3>Like this is totally wrong. And I'm I'm like my

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<v Speaker 3>I am looking straight at it. And then I put

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<v Speaker 3>the paint card on the deck and it immediately comes

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<v Speaker 3>the exact color at the deck, just like just like

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<v Speaker 3>optical illusion went. No, I just suck.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think context that happens to me with colors, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like you, especially when you're looking at so many options,

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<v Speaker 1>right like you're like, oh, this is different, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you hold it right up next to it and it's like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how how did that work? That it was different somewhere else?

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<v Speaker 1>But what exactly the same here?

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>That's been your your soccer and deck talk. There was Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I apologize people, this is not what people are here for.

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<v Speaker 1>There's limited baseball banter when we have to make the

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<v Speaker 1>whole show out of essentially banterable material during All Star Week. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go to our first segment air Jordan. Jordan Walker

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<v Speaker 1>won the home run derby in both dramatic and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know his his blood pressure wasn't raised.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Mad a question, but without without urgency. I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>from from his side.

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<v Speaker 2>When Wednesday won the playoff semi final against peter Borough

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<v Speaker 2>with the big comeback, obviously they went penalty kicks and

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<v Speaker 2>they put like their four obvious penalty kick guys as

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<v Speaker 2>the first four and they all scored. So I remember

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there in my where was I I was at

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<v Speaker 2>Waterwitch watching on my phone. Uh, Like I'm like, who's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go up for the fifth penalty kick? Like I

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<v Speaker 2>have no idea, Like they've and they needed to win

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<v Speaker 2>because Peterborough and this once and like Jack Hunt, who's

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<v Speaker 2>their right back, comes up and like, I know, you

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<v Speaker 2>got to be very careful. And while I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's it, Like like he's got a good cross eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been a lot of there's been a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>center backs taking penalties in this World Cup and it

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<v Speaker 1>has not panned out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he walks up and I just fine, like

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<v Speaker 2>this is like the super pressure situation. And he's like

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<v Speaker 2>he was a veteran right back at that point, and

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<v Speaker 2>like the keepers coming out with the ball to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like try to intimidate him, right. I remember looking

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<v Speaker 2>at He's just sitting there chewing gum like completely like

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<v Speaker 2>not even like at one point he almost kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like it's not like a smerk, but it's almost like

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<v Speaker 2>a like a little like chortal like but the keeper

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<v Speaker 2>trying to stay it over and then he chips it

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<v Speaker 2>into the top corner. And that's kind of how I

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<v Speaker 2>felt watching Jordan Walker, Like he's got all the Philly

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<v Speaker 2>fans like Bow and m he doesn't get off to

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<v Speaker 2>a great start and they just like it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We So we talked about this ultimately. The fields felt

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<v Speaker 1>pretty even. I mean this this is not this is

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<v Speaker 1>a good part to hit home runs, yep, But I

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<v Speaker 1>think we specifically talked about it in regards to Walker,

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<v Speaker 1>like he's just so.

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<v Speaker 2>Strong, yeah that he can actually like he pulled most

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<v Speaker 2>of these, like he wasn't whipping them straight down the line.

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<v Speaker 1>Also put someone out, and he did. He did pull

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<v Speaker 1>most of them, but part of the strength, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, is the point it was pulled. But he

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of flat line drive home runs that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think without his strength and his the exit

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<v Speaker 1>below he gets off his bat because of his you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he and Kim and Arrow swing.

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<v Speaker 2>So hard, like it didn't even look like he was

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<v Speaker 2>swinging that.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the point is that it is hard with it.

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<v Speaker 1>He swings that hard without it looking that way. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I always forget he swings as hard as he does

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<v Speaker 1>because it is it's long, and he's he's so lanky, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he's such a tall guy. But he just generates such

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<v Speaker 1>force off of it. But again, I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys without his his height and his levers

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<v Speaker 1>and and the exit below imparted on it. Those line

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<v Speaker 1>drives are hitting the wall or hitting the morning track

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and his just carry He was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It was fun. Yeah, Like it's I'm not the new

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<v Speaker 2>formats fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't mind it. I thought I would. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I would dislike it, and I did not mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, I don't know, it feels like if they're like

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<v Speaker 3>there were fewer like six ball, straight ball.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not trying to go as fat right the whole.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like I feel like in the old system

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<v Speaker 3>you can see hitters just waiting for middle middle in

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<v Speaker 3>anytime a picture like.

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<v Speaker 1>Which old system at this point, the old system, the

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<v Speaker 1>out system. Yeah, that is a nightmare. Yeah, And it

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<v Speaker 1>also just takes so long because if you have someone

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<v Speaker 1>hit you know what was it, Josh Hamilton hid thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five homers or whatever, it just went on forever. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which I guess you could technically do if you did

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<v Speaker 1>it all on the last ball right here, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I like that because it's like it's not with

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<v Speaker 2>the time system, Like it's more frenantic, like it's cool

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<v Speaker 2>to see guys get into a rhythm and things like that,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can kind of like tell if it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be close or not at a certain point. And here,

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<v Speaker 2>like Walker looked like he was going to be done,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's always the the last ball, which is kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>The hero ball thing. I don't know, like it's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I get what you're saying, and I'm not saying it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>It was. It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was great fun honestly, so I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to say it didn't work, but it feels weird

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<v Speaker 1>to me to construct a swing based any swing except

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<v Speaker 1>the last ball.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like the caveat to say, like we

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<v Speaker 1>know this system isn't actually that good. We need to

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<v Speaker 1>save it. Yeah, with this thing. Now, I'm a proponent

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<v Speaker 1>of the clock I really like and maybe this is

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<v Speaker 1>just me being tied up. I hated the outs system

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought the clock saved the home run derby,

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe I'm just a little too beholden to it

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<v Speaker 1>in that sense. I do not think the clock was perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>I think where you don't get to fully admire the

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<v Speaker 1>home runs and it was just a race and like

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<v Speaker 1>guys were pitching before the ball landed whatever, like all

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<v Speaker 1>of that was no good. So I understand why they

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to get away from it. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>also it was just too much time. Yeah, three minutes

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. They had too much time at you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for one player at a block of time. But I

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<v Speaker 1>would have loved to see tweaks to the clock BA

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<v Speaker 1>based system that said this was good, This was great fun.

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<v Speaker 1>There was drama in it. It was it worked.

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<v Speaker 2>It is funny that like like one of the advantages

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<v Speaker 2>that you think of this says will be able to

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<v Speaker 2>actually like track the home runs and like have like

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<v Speaker 2>a more sort of like you know, you could cut

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<v Speaker 2>like we're crazy. Yeah, And they were using like the

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<v Speaker 2>what like the White Sox dirt cam for some of

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<v Speaker 2>these shots too, instead of like showing it from behind,

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<v Speaker 2>like you couldn't even really see where the pitch was coming,

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<v Speaker 2>Like is he gonna swing at this? Like you couldn't tell,

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<v Speaker 2>like it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, give me a picture and picture of the the

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even mind give me a picture and picture

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<v Speaker 1>of especially when it's Jordan Walker, someone's pulling the ball

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<v Speaker 1>only basically of that down the line thing where you

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<v Speaker 1>get to see his full swing and can watch it

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<v Speaker 1>the whole way. They need. I think they need to

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<v Speaker 1>do more picture and picture stuff with this where you

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<v Speaker 1>can watch the full arc but then have the other.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think we need to move around so be it.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to break out like the NHL glowpuck from

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<v Speaker 2>the nineties, so we can actually like track like the

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<v Speaker 2>tail the tail. I want the tail on the ball too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which brings us to so that we talk format.

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<v Speaker 1>It brings us to the Netflix. Patrick, you've been quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand being quiet during soccer. Did you partake in

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<v Speaker 1>any of this?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh? I had to watch it in retrospect because of

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<v Speaker 3>deck Okay, and that is not the way to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, Like No, I wouldn't, I honestly I would tell

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<v Speaker 1>you if I missed it, I wouldn't go back for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, none of this actually matters.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not I didn't make it through all of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah no, well why would you?

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<v Speaker 3>It's so first of all, thoughts on Jordan Walker, Like

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<v Speaker 3>Jordan Walker is designed to look like both his face

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<v Speaker 3>and his swing are both designed to look not effort

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<v Speaker 3>the kind of kind of like I think everybody has

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<v Speaker 3>the same swing, but not everybody has the same follow

426
00:22:16.319 --> 00:22:19.720
<v Speaker 3>through yet, and Jordan Walker does not bother with a

427
00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:24.880
<v Speaker 3>follow through, Like he stops the follow through like sooner

428
00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:28.039
<v Speaker 3>than the follow through would naturally stop. Like it almost

429
00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:32.079
<v Speaker 3>feels like he breaks on it. Uh, it's like the

430
00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:36.240
<v Speaker 3>hit version of recoil, but without the effort like it

431
00:22:36.559 --> 00:22:39.039
<v Speaker 3>just it's not like he is like jerking to stop

432
00:22:39.079 --> 00:22:41.039
<v Speaker 3>the bat so that you feel the effort of it.

433
00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:43.480
<v Speaker 3>It just makes the swing look like he is not

434
00:22:43.559 --> 00:22:44.480
<v Speaker 3>swinging his hard right.

435
00:22:44.519 --> 00:22:46.240
<v Speaker 2>It's just like my swing goes from here to here.

436
00:22:46.480 --> 00:22:51.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, why bother with the rest of it? How it feels.

437
00:22:51.440 --> 00:22:53.680
<v Speaker 2>But even his celebrat like he obviously hit well like

438
00:22:53.839 --> 00:23:00.440
<v Speaker 2>six in a row whatever, Like even was not like

439
00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:06.079
<v Speaker 2>super you know, ambulance, right, Like, it wasn't like he

440
00:23:06.279 --> 00:23:09.160
<v Speaker 2>like like yeah, like I think one of his TV

441
00:23:09.400 --> 00:23:09.759
<v Speaker 2>tell you.

442
00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Very chill children. Yeah, yeah, no, they did keep cutting

443
00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:20.319
<v Speaker 1>to them. That was one of the cuts that was enjoyable.

444
00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:23.039
<v Speaker 1>His family with the picture of them on the field

445
00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:26.240
<v Speaker 1>with him was great. I thought he had some wonderful

446
00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:29.599
<v Speaker 1>things to say about inspiring you know, hopefully inspiring uh

447
00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:32.799
<v Speaker 1>black kids to keep playing baseball and to stick with it.

448
00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:38.359
<v Speaker 1>So a very thoughtful person. But but you know, it's

449
00:23:39.279 --> 00:23:41.599
<v Speaker 1>the idea of like a man of few words, except

450
00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:45.039
<v Speaker 1>like just a man of few act Like his actions

451
00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:48.559
<v Speaker 1>are like you said, laconic, right, Like, it's just there's

452
00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:49.559
<v Speaker 1>a brevity.

453
00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:51.960
<v Speaker 2>To it, all right, it's like very like it stands

454
00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:58.240
<v Speaker 2>like in stark. It's a very stark reversal of like

455
00:23:58.440 --> 00:24:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Pilanzo at the home run der right, the very different energy.

456
00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:04.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

457
00:24:05.240 --> 00:24:08.759
<v Speaker 1>So the last question we have here on this subject

458
00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:11.759
<v Speaker 1>is it better than the actual game. I'll tell you this,

459
00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:15.799
<v Speaker 1>It was better than this actual sure. Well it's like.

460
00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:19.880
<v Speaker 2>So the thing about that we can kind of transition

461
00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:21.160
<v Speaker 2>to them, and I will.

462
00:24:21.319 --> 00:24:23.640
<v Speaker 1>To my point about not going back to watch. Yeah,

463
00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:26.799
<v Speaker 1>I caught parts of the All Star game. I did

464
00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:29.039
<v Speaker 1>not make it a point to sit down and watch it,

465
00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:31.319
<v Speaker 1>and I did not and will not go back.

466
00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just you.

467
00:24:33.400 --> 00:24:36.079
<v Speaker 1>It's fine, it's not it's just not important. All of

468
00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:39.279
<v Speaker 1>these all of these sports all star games have right,

469
00:24:39.400 --> 00:24:41.960
<v Speaker 1>this is just the changing kind of the same issue.

470
00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:45.599
<v Speaker 2>Right, It's a changing sports TV landscape, right, And by changing,

471
00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:48.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean like from the early nineties, like starting in

472
00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:52.599
<v Speaker 2>the early nineties, right, Like you just you can see

473
00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:56.440
<v Speaker 2>show he Ti all the time if you want.

474
00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:58.359
<v Speaker 1>To, yes, right, Like, this is the thing they're all

475
00:24:58.440 --> 00:25:01.400
<v Speaker 1>facing is that there's an a availability that didn't used

476
00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:04.119
<v Speaker 1>to be there, and it takes any in all urgency

477
00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:08.480
<v Speaker 1>out of right these these mid season.

478
00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:10.279
<v Speaker 2>And even with like inter league playing it like if

479
00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:12.759
<v Speaker 2>you if you really wanted to see show Heeo Tani

480
00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:14.680
<v Speaker 2>pitch to Aaron Judge, like that probably happened in a

481
00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Dodgers Yankees game several times in the last few years,

482
00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:21.440
<v Speaker 2>right for something that actually probably means more than the stakes.

483
00:25:21.799 --> 00:25:24.079
<v Speaker 1>With stakes even in a regular season game, there are

484
00:25:24.119 --> 00:25:29.279
<v Speaker 1>states that don't exist. I've long been a proponent and

485
00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:34.599
<v Speaker 1>they've they've done it kind of I think, like I

486
00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:41.759
<v Speaker 1>like the college basketball All first team, you know all

487
00:25:41.920 --> 00:25:44.680
<v Speaker 1>NCAA First team, second team thirteen and they've done that.

488
00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:46.319
<v Speaker 1>They have voting for that at the end of the year.

489
00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:50.680
<v Speaker 1>And there's no game play. They do not play like

490
00:25:50.680 --> 00:25:54.119
<v Speaker 1>an All Star game. You just get named to here's

491
00:25:54.160 --> 00:25:56.160
<v Speaker 1>your performance. And what's great about it to me is

492
00:25:56.359 --> 00:25:59.759
<v Speaker 1>it's a full season. It's not a partial season, and

493
00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:03.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's it is an honor based on your full season.

494
00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:04.400
<v Speaker 3>And that's it.

495
00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:07.359
<v Speaker 1>There's no there's no actual game. I think they should

496
00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:10.240
<v Speaker 1>they are doing that, but there's still they're still doing

497
00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:14.519
<v Speaker 1>the game, which doesn't It just doesn't really make sense,

498
00:26:14.680 --> 00:26:14.839
<v Speaker 1>you know.

499
00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:19.119
<v Speaker 2>Do you know I don't know something. I have to

500
00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:19.680
<v Speaker 2>look this up.

501
00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Anyone who was on any of the first teams.

502
00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:26.200
<v Speaker 3>No, no, I don't.

503
00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I was going to, uh ask if you knew who

504
00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:32.160
<v Speaker 2>the quarterbacks were in the Pro Bowl this year?

505
00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:37.240
<v Speaker 3>Well, wasn't Uh wasn't it Dean Sanders kid one of them?

506
00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:39.480
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean he was on the I don't know

507
00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:40.839
<v Speaker 2>if he actually played. He did end up on.

508
00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:47.519
<v Speaker 3>How like nobody goes it was a real King Rayolf situation.

509
00:26:50.039 --> 00:26:54.799
<v Speaker 2>So the let's see, the AFC quarterbacks were. The AFC

510
00:26:54.960 --> 00:27:02.559
<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks were somebody like m I am now trying to

511
00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:10.200
<v Speaker 2>figure out how both was and Joe Flacco, who both

512
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:11.519
<v Speaker 2>played for the Bengals last year.

513
00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Well they both they both really played. I mean they

514
00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:19.599
<v Speaker 1>both played a fair amount. Seriously, Joe Flacco.

515
00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:23.839
<v Speaker 2>Joe Flacco was on the All Protein. No, the Pro

516
00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Bowl team Pro Bowl.

517
00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:27.599
<v Speaker 1>I thought they called them. That's not the All Protein.

518
00:27:27.799 --> 00:27:28.640
<v Speaker 2>The All Pro is different.

519
00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:32.079
<v Speaker 1>So they do the same MLB, they do a game

520
00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:33.920
<v Speaker 1>and okay, anyway.

521
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:35.359
<v Speaker 2>Well they have a they have a the All Pro

522
00:27:35.640 --> 00:27:42.839
<v Speaker 2>rosters like more prestigious, okay than the Pro Bowl. Okay,

523
00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:49.279
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I mean it's just like there's no this

524
00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:51.160
<v Speaker 2>is sort of like a vestigial thing, but also not

525
00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:52.920
<v Speaker 2>going to give it up because they get paid money

526
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:53.640
<v Speaker 2>for it. Right.

527
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, and it's somehow one of the like quote unquote

528
00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>jewel yeah events, even though it's shitty. Yeah, yeah, I

529
00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:08.039
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I think, like I said, I think every

530
00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:11.039
<v Speaker 1>league is is struggling. I think the reason it's it's

531
00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:13.359
<v Speaker 1>a jewel of it obviously is everything else is stopped.

532
00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:16.920
<v Speaker 1>It's the if you want baseball, it's the only place

533
00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:20.200
<v Speaker 1>to go unless you live near a complex. Yeah, right,

534
00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:22.759
<v Speaker 1>Like it is the only thing going on in the

535
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.119
<v Speaker 1>sport and so there's all eyes on one thing, but

536
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:28.480
<v Speaker 1>like it's also all eyes on one thing that's not

537
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:29.279
<v Speaker 1>worth watching.

538
00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:34.920
<v Speaker 3>But in most not just the sport unless you care

539
00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:39.359
<v Speaker 3>about soccer. Every four years, yeah, every four years, there's

540
00:28:39.480 --> 00:28:42.640
<v Speaker 3>no other, right, normally the MLS.

541
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess, yeah, season would be ongoing.

542
00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:48.359
<v Speaker 2>I suppose it's it started. They took a break, right, Yeah,

543
00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:50.359
<v Speaker 2>they started up towards the lot, towards towards the end

544
00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:54.200
<v Speaker 2>of the World Cup. They're playing again. Okay, Well, maybe

545
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:55.799
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't trying.

546
00:28:57.319 --> 00:28:58.519
<v Speaker 1>And I wasn't trying to spy.

547
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:01.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean you could have. You could have. I couldn't.

548
00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:04.960
<v Speaker 2>I got offered a ticket, but Jess was out last.

549
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:06.759
<v Speaker 2>Even I couldn't go. I could have gone and watched

550
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:09.400
<v Speaker 2>real like against Burnley last night.

551
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I will be attending a DC United in the coming weeks.

552
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:20.839
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, no, I I think I guess it. I

553
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>was thinking. They always talk about like the sports solstice

554
00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:27.240
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, all things are going on, but this this baseball,

555
00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:31.200
<v Speaker 1>the four major sports, and again soccer has entered that

556
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:35.039
<v Speaker 1>conversation in a way it hadn't when we were younger, right.

557
00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:38.160
<v Speaker 2>But they are going to move MLS to a fall

558
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:40.920
<v Speaker 2>winter schedule, so at.

559
00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Some point it's gonna be right where it's is like

560
00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:47.079
<v Speaker 1>the only thing going on. Yeah, and so you have to,

561
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:49.799
<v Speaker 1>but they don't have anything worth worth doing.

562
00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I don't know, like you could do the

563
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:56.200
<v Speaker 2>NBA like pick teams and play shorter games things, I guess.

564
00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:58.039
<v Speaker 1>But then he struggles too.

565
00:29:58.039 --> 00:29:59.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't think anyone cares about that.

566
00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:03.960
<v Speaker 1>They actually they get participation because the players like playing

567
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>in it. But there's no, it's not competition, right, the

568
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:10.960
<v Speaker 1>competition similar to the Homer in Derby. The competition is

569
00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:13.039
<v Speaker 1>the Homer in Derby. The competition is the three point.

570
00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not even.

571
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:19.319
<v Speaker 1>It's not like stru to get participants in the dunk contest.

572
00:30:20.400 --> 00:30:24.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't like. And obviously they're doing more. They have

573
00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:27.279
<v Speaker 2>like the red carpet event right like now too, and

574
00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:29.640
<v Speaker 2>like I think you can make it more of a

575
00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:34.279
<v Speaker 2>celebration of the game without needing to play a game

576
00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:35.160
<v Speaker 2>at the end of it.

577
00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:39.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, And look, I think it would take some creativity.

578
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:42.039
<v Speaker 1>It would probably take trying some things that we would

579
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>criticize and that would fail and whatever, but I think

580
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:48.559
<v Speaker 1>it's probably worth exploring that, right.

581
00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:51.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. No, I don't want that. I mean, you guys

582
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:54.720
<v Speaker 3>can have it. I have zero interest in that, but.

583
00:30:54.759 --> 00:30:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I guess I'm saying I think the sports should do.

584
00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:00.400
<v Speaker 1>It might not be for me, but the sport should

585
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:04.079
<v Speaker 1>probably do because I don't think the All Star games work. Ultimately,

586
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:04.799
<v Speaker 1>I will.

587
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:06.680
<v Speaker 3>Say the one pleasure of the All Star Game that

588
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:09.559
<v Speaker 3>we don't really get again until the playoffs start is

589
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:13.559
<v Speaker 3>the everybody watching one game. And this is the thing

590
00:31:13.640 --> 00:31:15.359
<v Speaker 3>I missed by not being able to watch it live,

591
00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:18.200
<v Speaker 3>and why it's so worthless to watch things in review

592
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:21.319
<v Speaker 3>is like, and why I think the All Star Game

593
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:23.519
<v Speaker 3>is still better than the home run derby and personally,

594
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:28.200
<v Speaker 3>first of all, I wonder, I do worry how many

595
00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:34.039
<v Speaker 3>home runs can you have diminishing returns? The concept exists

596
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:37.920
<v Speaker 3>for everything, and I don't know. I watch fifty home

597
00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:40.680
<v Speaker 3>runs in one hour, and I think the fiftieth home

598
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:43.720
<v Speaker 3>run is not as fun as the first home run,

599
00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:46.000
<v Speaker 3>like and it takes away from all future home runs.

600
00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:49.160
<v Speaker 3>Like in my life, I can only have so much

601
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:52.319
<v Speaker 3>finite appreciation for the home run as a concept, and

602
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:56.119
<v Speaker 3>this is taking a little bit of it. So I

603
00:31:56.160 --> 00:32:00.240
<v Speaker 3>don't know if that's healthierne but so that don't have

604
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:03.519
<v Speaker 3>to be for me, but at least with an All

605
00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:08.200
<v Speaker 3>Star Game, various things could happen and therefore various jokes

606
00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:10.200
<v Speaker 3>can be made about them, And that is the only,

607
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:12.599
<v Speaker 3>to me, the only value of the All Star Game.

608
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:16.519
<v Speaker 2>Most of what happens in game interviews, right.

609
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:18.839
<v Speaker 3>The All Star Game can be bad as long as

610
00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:20.240
<v Speaker 3>it's Mano's hands of Fate bad.

611
00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:24.200
<v Speaker 1>My my wife did say, like with all the in

612
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:26.599
<v Speaker 1>game interviews, from even just the portion that we watched,

613
00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:29.319
<v Speaker 1>they were like, She was like, it really does exposed

614
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:32.960
<v Speaker 1>baseball is like they can do an She was like,

615
00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I understand the game doesn't matter, but like they can

616
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:37.319
<v Speaker 1>have a conversation while they're playing the game.

617
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:38.559
<v Speaker 3>I hate it.

618
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:42.720
<v Speaker 1>That's not She was like, I don't know if that's

619
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>the endorsement that they really wanted to do.

620
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:49.119
<v Speaker 2>The first time I saw this used in like real competition,

621
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:52.279
<v Speaker 2>in a real sporce competition was the PBA Tour. So

622
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:56.680
<v Speaker 2>that probably tells you something bowling, Yeah, yeah right right.

623
00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:59.640
<v Speaker 1>So, so we briefly touched on the production and all

624
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>the cut and and and the camera or whatever I

625
00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:03.960
<v Speaker 1>have to we do have to bring up for the

626
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:09.240
<v Speaker 1>for the derby, the announcers, the coffee table, the commentabe

627
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:13.400
<v Speaker 1>the commentary was atrocious.

628
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:16.720
<v Speaker 2>Look at a certain point for something like this, you

629
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:20.200
<v Speaker 2>really just need Chris Berman going nuts, right, like that's

630
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:22.119
<v Speaker 2>I know you, but like.

631
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>You need like there's no like I cannot harken back

632
00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:28.799
<v Speaker 1>for Chris Berman well here, but like it's but you

633
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:31.319
<v Speaker 1>might need some someone in that you need.

634
00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:34.480
<v Speaker 2>The energy like they're not meeting the moment of the spectacle, right.

635
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>There's someone who was trying to It wasn't. First of all,

636
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:41.480
<v Speaker 1>they had a million people. I never identified themselves at

637
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<v Speaker 1>any point, and then they Rizzo was okay as far

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<v Speaker 1>as I could tell. But then they had someone else

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<v Speaker 1>who was u goodly annoying.

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<v Speaker 2>But like you don't it's not you don't need analysis.

641
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:56.599
<v Speaker 2>It's batting practice, right, you just need to like.

642
00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>You need you need someone with a childlike wonder who.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want run Sacafe doing it to be clear,

644
00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:06.880
<v Speaker 2>but like it just is, Oh, look at that one.

645
00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:14.400
<v Speaker 2>It's like the you know the ship the I did

646
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:18.280
<v Speaker 2>the Alan Partridge World Cup soccer video. You're like he's

647
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<v Speaker 2>got a foot like a tractor engine, like you yeah, yeah,

648
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:23.400
<v Speaker 2>you need that kind of like energy for the home run.

649
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:25.559
<v Speaker 2>It's like like you need uh, you.

650
00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:27.559
<v Speaker 1>Just need his names.

651
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:33.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, like peak Gus Johnson, right, like you

652
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:35.960
<v Speaker 2>just yeah, Like it's not like you don't have to

653
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:38.079
<v Speaker 2>be like, wow, he's trying to pull the ball, Like

654
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:39.639
<v Speaker 2>we know what he's trying to do. We've seen home

655
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:41.920
<v Speaker 2>we know how home runs work. Like if we're watching this, right,

656
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:46.199
<v Speaker 2>do you see, Like you just need like as much

657
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:50.280
<v Speaker 2>like hyperbole as possible for this stuff. Yeah, like Junior

658
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:53.599
<v Speaker 2>Camonaros hitting balls four ninety like just like lean into it.

659
00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:59.320
<v Speaker 3>Right, just flip out, yeah, yeah, because it's the same

660
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:01.840
<v Speaker 3>it's a home run, and then it's another home run.

661
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:05.760
<v Speaker 2>And then Jim Ross is got by as God as

662
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:08.559
<v Speaker 2>my witness, he's broken in half, Like I can't have

663
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:12.360
<v Speaker 2>irony pro wrestling. Yeah you need like yeah, yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>I do.

665
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I Also there was a point at which they kept

666
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:19.800
<v Speaker 1>bringing up Jordan Walker. No cardinal has ever won it,

667
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:21.679
<v Speaker 1>and they were like, you go through all the cardinal

668
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:26.199
<v Speaker 1>hitter greats, and they I don't know, they mentioned two.

669
00:35:26.960 --> 00:35:31.280
<v Speaker 1>They mentioned too McGuire, neither neither of whom was Albert Pooholes.

670
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:35.519
<v Speaker 3>He was on a couch on the brug next to

671
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:36.400
<v Speaker 3>his coffee too.

672
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Next to his coffee table. How literally literally, my wife,

673
00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:44.639
<v Speaker 1>who is exposed to a lot of baseball, likes baseball,

674
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:48.000
<v Speaker 1>but is not, you know, a baseball Norman was like,

675
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:51.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even say it. She goes, Albert pool Holes

676
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:53.199
<v Speaker 1>is right there.

677
00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:55.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, who is the other one? That McGuire?

678
00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:58.280
<v Speaker 1>And they said McGuire and who did they?

679
00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:00.679
<v Speaker 2>They said, we're picking like holiday.

680
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:05.079
<v Speaker 1>It was someone in that mold. I'm forgetting who it was.

681
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:08.280
<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't literally Albert Pooholes.

682
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:12.039
<v Speaker 2>It was Jack Clark.

683
00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:16.039
<v Speaker 3>Jaggery was conta bar.

684
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it truly was. And now I think they went

685
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:28.719
<v Speaker 1>old like someone older than then Maguire maybe I don't remember.

686
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:30.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel bad.

687
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:31.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand me the deal.

688
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:33.719
<v Speaker 3>It might it might have been.

689
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:35.239
<v Speaker 1>No, it was Jack Clark.

690
00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:37.639
<v Speaker 3>It was literally Jack Clark.

691
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.519
<v Speaker 1>It was Jack Clark. It was Jack Clark and and

692
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:41.920
<v Speaker 1>maguire and it's like.

693
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Hello, you know obviously musical and pooh Holes are one

694
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<v Speaker 2>to you know, who's third on the all time Cardinals

695
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:49.920
<v Speaker 2>onund list?

696
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what.

697
00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:58.000
<v Speaker 3>Patrick, Let's see. I mean, Clark wasn't around long enough.

698
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Clark's not even in the top twenty five.

699
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:05.280
<v Speaker 3>The the it can't be really Langford but at least

700
00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:14.039
<v Speaker 3>Langford was there forever Langford. That's okay, boy Jim Bomsley.

701
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:17.159
<v Speaker 2>Eighth, it's a we won't get bogged. It's Ken Boyer.

702
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:22.599
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, there you good. You could say that and

703
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:26.000
<v Speaker 3>no one is gonna be like Ken Boyer. That's impossible.

704
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:28.840
<v Speaker 3>He was only on the team for like yeah, he

705
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:31.519
<v Speaker 3>was only on the team for like nine years or something.

706
00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:34.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, we're doing the I've seen like the White

707
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Sox are doing like the throwback broadcast, right, we need

708
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:41.239
<v Speaker 2>to do it like a nineteen sixties home run derby,

709
00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:43.079
<v Speaker 2>like the Black and White at like the old Rickley

710
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Field in LA.

711
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:50.360
<v Speaker 3>Just behind the camera, behind side of the plate. Yept

712
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:52.639
<v Speaker 3>cut to the dugout where they interview the other guy.

713
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:56.599
<v Speaker 2>Yep, they should all be smoking cigarettes.

714
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:02.760
<v Speaker 3>Nobody in the stands. No, yes, ye, balls hitting parked cars.

715
00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

716
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:04.880
<v Speaker 3>I think I.

717
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Miss that. ESPN showed a like nine in the morning, like, yeah, so.

718
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:13.880
<v Speaker 1>We we did have an actual game, yes, such that

719
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:17.199
<v Speaker 1>any of us. Yeah, managed to take it in our

720
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:19.199
<v Speaker 1>second segment. Hey, now you're an all star. There was

721
00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:20.000
<v Speaker 1>there was the game.

722
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:21.719
<v Speaker 3>It was uh.

723
00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Limited, limited fireworks, limited action. If you liked strikeouts, sure

724
00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:37.760
<v Speaker 1>this was one for you, h the crowd. If you

725
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:41.400
<v Speaker 1>liked people from Philly, well, this was one for you,

726
00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:44.199
<v Speaker 1>I guess if you if you liked watching people getting booed, this.

727
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Was Why are they actual people from Philly or are

728
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:48.159
<v Speaker 2>they just rich people that have moved to Philly at

729
00:38:48.199 --> 00:38:48.559
<v Speaker 2>some point?

730
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:55.199
<v Speaker 1>Well, okay it was McGonagall, bood, I don't think he was. Yeah,

731
00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:59.559
<v Speaker 1>I think McGonagall and and you know Trout also neither. Yeah,

732
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:04.239
<v Speaker 1>well mcgonald's delco right, yeah, I think Trout, you know,

733
00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:08.719
<v Speaker 1>just a Philly fan. So they appreciate, the appreciate, appreciate.

734
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:11.519
<v Speaker 2>Long argument in the group chat. Millville is not a

735
00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:12.360
<v Speaker 2>suburb of Philly.

736
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:16.519
<v Speaker 1>It is. Look, and I understand right there, I'm not

737
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:19.639
<v Speaker 1>gonna get but it's my point being was it was

738
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:23.400
<v Speaker 1>a different state. I understand that there's you get into

739
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:29.039
<v Speaker 1>the exurbs or it's all fine, but uh, the one

740
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:32.440
<v Speaker 1>for nothing. Michel Vargas never wrong, just early hit a

741
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:36.519
<v Speaker 1>home run off his friend and minor league teammate Justin

742
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:42.199
<v Speaker 1>Robleski Christopher Sanchez rough first inning, and then it was,

743
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:45.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, like smooth sailing in a boring way until

744
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:48.360
<v Speaker 1>the Vargas home run. Again just not not a lot

745
00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:48.760
<v Speaker 1>going on.

746
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:55.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the MVP was Cody Bellinger because he, like I guess,

747
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:56.800
<v Speaker 3>he just led the game.

748
00:39:56.920 --> 00:39:58.719
<v Speaker 1>It was gonna be it was basically gonna be him

749
00:39:58.800 --> 00:39:59.280
<v Speaker 1>or Vargas.

750
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:03.000
<v Speaker 2>He had the game winning RBI. Yeah exactly, he had

751
00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:05.880
<v Speaker 2>the old like yeah, nineteen eighties game winning RBI. Yeah,

752
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:08.599
<v Speaker 2>you know.

753
00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:11.400
<v Speaker 1>We the item on our discussion here is does it

754
00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:13.679
<v Speaker 1>feel more obsolete than it used to? We had that discussion.

755
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:13.840
<v Speaker 3>Yea.

756
00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:15.480
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know anything else we want to see.

757
00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:19.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean some of this is, you know, Otani's not there,

758
00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:22.079
<v Speaker 2>judges and like some of the bigger stars weren't there

759
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:24.400
<v Speaker 2>for various reasons, which I think, you know, Misrowski didn't

760
00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:27.079
<v Speaker 2>throw like some of the right like what was really

761
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:29.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna like it needed a hook, right, Like you need

762
00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:31.159
<v Speaker 2>a hook for these sometimes.

763
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Well I'm like, no shade to the al which is

764
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:37.960
<v Speaker 1>one a lot of routeen thirteen or fifteen something like that.

765
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:41.760
<v Speaker 1>But it was just like there's a lot of and

766
00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:43.360
<v Speaker 1>again no shade to these guys. But it was a

767
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:46.559
<v Speaker 1>lot of Jacob Lats and Louis Arland, yeah, you know,

768
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:49.800
<v Speaker 1>and and shame on Dave Roberts. There was a lot

769
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:53.440
<v Speaker 1>of Justin Robleski and one one batter of Mason Miller.

770
00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:55.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like.

771
00:40:56.920 --> 00:40:59.599
<v Speaker 1>You just suck at any air that is potentially there.

772
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Roberts is sucking out with his with his choice of things.

773
00:41:03.800 --> 00:41:07.159
<v Speaker 3>Now that I should have just had.

774
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Like I know, Christmas Sanchez is a good season. It's

775
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:11.360
<v Speaker 2>in Philly. Fine, they said, Mason Miller start this game.

776
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:15.360
<v Speaker 3>That the.

777
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:20.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to cast the same aspersions on Schneider,

778
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:24.119
<v Speaker 1>whose roster was just mostly relievers. So like he did

779
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:28.679
<v Speaker 1>what he what he had. Roberts, why why so much

780
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:31.760
<v Speaker 1>re BLESSI I mean, like I do wonder how much

781
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:35.519
<v Speaker 1>of it is like teams saying please don't whatever you

782
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:38.039
<v Speaker 1>can do to not use it, and he's with the

783
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:40.119
<v Speaker 1>Dodgers and kind of like, all right, I don't care

784
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:43.320
<v Speaker 1>if I use Justin it might come down to that.

785
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that is the reason they're never gonna tell us

786
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:50.079
<v Speaker 1>that really, But as a viewer for the All Star Game,

787
00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:52.400
<v Speaker 1>you're kind of like, this is you know, look, he's

788
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:55.679
<v Speaker 1>having a nice season. Fine, it's a lot of Justin Fleski,

789
00:41:56.199 --> 00:42:01.800
<v Speaker 1>a guy who should just be like happy to be here. Yeah,

790
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:02.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

791
00:42:03.159 --> 00:42:05.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I want to say, like the All Star game

792
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:10.119
<v Speaker 3>is obsolete. We have constant in league play. The novelty

793
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:14.280
<v Speaker 3>is gone. I feel like you could take the game

794
00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:17.039
<v Speaker 3>in one of two directions and the league is clearly

795
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:19.840
<v Speaker 3>picked which one it is, and one of them has

796
00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:25.400
<v Speaker 3>wrestling rings and fireworks on the infield and in the

797
00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:28.559
<v Speaker 3>game concert who was who was the inding game concert?

798
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:33.599
<v Speaker 3>This time I did not voice, Man, it would make sense.

799
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:36.480
<v Speaker 3>That's one direction you could go, and the other direction

800
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:39.840
<v Speaker 3>you could go is not all those things, and just

801
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:43.159
<v Speaker 3>be like, hey, we're just gonna have a chill time

802
00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:45.800
<v Speaker 3>and everyone's just gonna play a game and we know

803
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:48.119
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't matter, and you don't know it doesn't matter,

804
00:42:48.639 --> 00:42:50.480
<v Speaker 3>and you know, just have fun and watch this game

805
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:55.440
<v Speaker 3>and not have not try to make like if it

806
00:42:55.679 --> 00:42:59.880
<v Speaker 3>sucks or if it's if it's meaningless. The problem is

807
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:03.800
<v Speaker 3>that the the amount of money that is invested in

808
00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:06.639
<v Speaker 3>trying to make it seem like it isn't. If you

809
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:09.480
<v Speaker 3>just accepted it for what it was and not made

810
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:11.239
<v Speaker 3>it a thing, which it has to be a thing

811
00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:14.480
<v Speaker 3>because it's worth money, then it would be fun. We

812
00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:16.920
<v Speaker 3>could all just hang out and watch a game together

813
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:21.599
<v Speaker 3>and just goof and it would be fine. But everything

814
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:25.360
<v Speaker 3>the league has done to try to make this game

815
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:28.320
<v Speaker 3>more of a thing, makes it less of a thing

816
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:33.360
<v Speaker 3>to me, even watching even watching like highlights. As soon

817
00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:35.480
<v Speaker 3>as they interviewed Bobby Wit, I had to I just

818
00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:39.519
<v Speaker 3>not even had to. I instinctively pause the video. I

819
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:42.239
<v Speaker 3>cannot listen to an athlete speak while they're playing on

820
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:43.480
<v Speaker 3>a field. I mean, they don't do it.

821
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:45.679
<v Speaker 2>They have exactly one move, right, and it's like the

822
00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:48.639
<v Speaker 2>endgame interview, that's what they have, like one and.

823
00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:53.320
<v Speaker 1>It's I mean, I've said for years, but they have

824
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:56.639
<v Speaker 1>they have one idea, and it's what if we.

825
00:43:58.800 --> 00:43:59.960
<v Speaker 2>What if we made this a talk shot?

826
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.119
<v Speaker 3>What if we made this? Yeah, what if we put

827
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:06.920
<v Speaker 3>podcast in our baseball game? And I just we need

828
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:09.480
<v Speaker 3>can we can we make a second idea? Guys?

829
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:14.599
<v Speaker 1>Something Here's something that's occurred to me. And I hesitate

830
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:17.920
<v Speaker 1>to say because I know neither of you are gonna

831
00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:21.199
<v Speaker 1>like it, and I will say I don't. I don't

832
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:24.920
<v Speaker 1>like my own idea here. It's not for me, right,

833
00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:32.519
<v Speaker 1>But the entire trend of things that are popular are

834
00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:39.559
<v Speaker 1>it has a parasocial bent, right, And like it seems

835
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:43.519
<v Speaker 1>to me I was just on effectively wild this morning.

836
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to Meg but and and I did not

837
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:48.880
<v Speaker 1>bring this up there, but I it seems to me

838
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:53.400
<v Speaker 1>that there is a huge gap between the in person

839
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:57.039
<v Speaker 1>experience at an All Star game or Homern Derby, even

840
00:44:57.320 --> 00:44:59.239
<v Speaker 1>although I think the Derby translates to TV a little

841
00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:02.840
<v Speaker 1>bit better, and the TV experience of it I've loved.

842
00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:05.639
<v Speaker 1>I've vastly enjoyed every All Star game I've been at,

843
00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:09.920
<v Speaker 1>even though it doesn't matter at all. Right I'm there,

844
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:13.280
<v Speaker 1>you can take in the pomp and and all that stuff,

845
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:15.159
<v Speaker 1>and it grabs you a little bit more because it's

846
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:18.880
<v Speaker 1>it's you're in it, right, Whereas at home you're not

847
00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:21.280
<v Speaker 1>in it, and you could just be watching a cozy mystery,

848
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:24.599
<v Speaker 1>right Like that is that is a better use of

849
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:28.760
<v Speaker 1>your time at home. But if you're there, there's no

850
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:31.679
<v Speaker 1>other use of your time. You're there, and so you

851
00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:34.559
<v Speaker 1>you do buy into it all a little bit more, right,

852
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:38.519
<v Speaker 1>because what else are you gonna do? Why not? I

853
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:44.079
<v Speaker 1>do kind of wonder if for a younger generation of fans,

854
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:48.280
<v Speaker 1>if this isn't where the what I would call like

855
00:45:48.360 --> 00:45:53.079
<v Speaker 1>the weirdo streamer people on like TikTok and and Instagram

856
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:56.559
<v Speaker 1>and whatever, like it's a completely foreign world to me, right,

857
00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:02.119
<v Speaker 1>but where everything is paris in it, that might flourish

858
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:05.360
<v Speaker 1>in a situation like this where you're getting And again

859
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:07.679
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't have to be on the TV broadcast, but

860
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:10.559
<v Speaker 1>it would be good for maybe the sport to have

861
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:18.559
<v Speaker 1>some of these popular influencer streamer people there and making

862
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:21.199
<v Speaker 1>content out of it, because all this is is content.

863
00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:24.119
<v Speaker 1>Right there are as we keep saying like there are

864
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:28.440
<v Speaker 1>no stakes. Jeff is ignoring me, and Patrick is looking

865
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:33.719
<v Speaker 1>at me patronizingly. I know this isn't for us, but

866
00:46:33.800 --> 00:46:36.719
<v Speaker 1>I do think for the sport that is maybe an avamue.

867
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I mean, like what I assume the

868
00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:42.599
<v Speaker 2>thing is, like we gotta get It's not even the

869
00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:44.239
<v Speaker 2>lannails anymore because we're all forty.

870
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Isn't this what Libby done?

871
00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:46.280
<v Speaker 3>Is?

872
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:46.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

873
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:48.679
<v Speaker 2>Well she was there, she was on the red card.

874
00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:52.320
<v Speaker 1>But was she working or she just there? Put her

875
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:52.719
<v Speaker 1>to work?

876
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:55.599
<v Speaker 2>Look all the they put all the influencers in the

877
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:57.679
<v Speaker 2>celebrity softball game and it didn't work, like.

878
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:03.079
<v Speaker 1>You do ship like, well, the game that doesn't matter

879
00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:07.239
<v Speaker 1>is going they should be doing they they like again,

880
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm the World Cup has I don't know. They had

881
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:15.679
<v Speaker 1>some person who I know is is like a streamer

882
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:21.079
<v Speaker 1>who's popular, Like, okay, sure, I.

883
00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Like, I'm not thrilled.

884
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:25.320
<v Speaker 1>I know that, but here we again it's not for me.

885
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:28.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't want it, but like they to me, that's

886
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:30.159
<v Speaker 1>what they should be doing at the l don't do

887
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:31.639
<v Speaker 1>it at the I don't want it at the World

888
00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:35.239
<v Speaker 1>Cup again, that has steaks. Get this guy out of

889
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:39.159
<v Speaker 1>my face, yea. But someone who was like, well, I

890
00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:42.199
<v Speaker 1>guess I'm I'm like it was someone who's getting transferred,

891
00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:44.400
<v Speaker 1>right or whatever he's like or they oh no, they

892
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:49.239
<v Speaker 1>had him talking to h what's his name? Jalen Brown,

893
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:52.599
<v Speaker 1>who was like, well, I just got traded, so like whatever,

894
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:57.000
<v Speaker 1>has no idea what he's like, you got traded really,

895
00:47:57.280 --> 00:47:59.719
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, yeah, man, actually you should maybe look

896
00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:02.880
<v Speaker 1>up the guy you're about to talk to. But but again,

897
00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:06.280
<v Speaker 1>at a game with no stakes, yeah, I'd be a

898
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:08.360
<v Speaker 1>lot more tolerant of it. Again, also because I don't

899
00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:09.960
<v Speaker 1>want to see it. Don't put it on the broadcast,

900
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:12.440
<v Speaker 1>but let them do it to their audience.

901
00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:17.559
<v Speaker 3>Craig wants a YouTuber in the bottom quarder of the TV.

902
00:48:17.800 --> 00:48:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't want him on the screen.

903
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:25.239
<v Speaker 3>Reacts to the All Star Game fine.

904
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Though again I'm not it's not for me anyway.

905
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:31.599
<v Speaker 3>But I you know, you're just you're just trying to

906
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:33.400
<v Speaker 3>think of ways for me to never watch it all.

907
00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:36.880
<v Speaker 3>Start game again. I appreciate it. No, it's saying it's

908
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:37.480
<v Speaker 3>not for me.

909
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:40.360
<v Speaker 1>You're not watching those channels anyway.

910
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:41.199
<v Speaker 2>Just chatting.

911
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I need someone who's saying chat every fifteen seconds

912
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:48.199
<v Speaker 1>or so? What do we think?

913
00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:51.079
<v Speaker 3>Chat? All? Right?

914
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:53.679
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to take a break or one more?

915
00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:58.880
<v Speaker 1>One more break? Break on the idea of streamers at

916
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:01.920
<v Speaker 1>at an All Star game. We will take a break

917
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and be back with the rest.

918
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:03.159
<v Speaker 3>Of the show.

919
00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:05.039
<v Speaker 2>Look, it's bad enough they let rich staff there.

920
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:32.239
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to episode five hundred and sixty three of

921
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:36.079
<v Speaker 1>five and Dive. We're on segment three. They had us

922
00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:41.000
<v Speaker 1>in the first half not gonna lie. We are looking

923
00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:47.679
<v Speaker 1>at one bold second half prediction. Each who wants to

924
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:48.239
<v Speaker 1>go first?

925
00:49:48.679 --> 00:49:50.440
<v Speaker 2>I'll go first. I change mine.

926
00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:54.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I saw that, well, I planned because of the

927
00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:55.039
<v Speaker 1>breaking news.

928
00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:57.079
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that either. I had planned to do

929
00:49:57.239 --> 00:49:58.920
<v Speaker 2>that and then forgot I had planned to do that

930
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:01.239
<v Speaker 2>and picked a different one. I'm going with Chase Burns.

931
00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:04.840
<v Speaker 2>When again, I'll say and always there's been a lot

932
00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:08.320
<v Speaker 2>of like Missierowski and Sanchez chat miss Zach Wheeler and

933
00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:10.679
<v Speaker 2>like Chase Burns is just quietly having a great season.

934
00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:14.079
<v Speaker 1>Yes, well it's quiet because the Reds because.

935
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, yes, the red bum Like yeah, I mean the

936
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Reds are bad now.

937
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:16.760
<v Speaker 3>They were.

938
00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:18.800
<v Speaker 1>They were interesting for part of the year.

939
00:50:18.880 --> 00:50:21.039
<v Speaker 2>They were interested. It's just the best you can remember

940
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:24.480
<v Speaker 2>that for the and it was like when the vision

941
00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:26.400
<v Speaker 2>was yeah, and.

942
00:50:26.519 --> 00:50:28.559
<v Speaker 3>Yet they were interesting and then they were almost as

943
00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:30.440
<v Speaker 3>interesting as every other team in their division.

944
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay they were, but they were part of that discussion.

945
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:39.920
<v Speaker 2>So he's got a few like positive markers here for

946
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:42.119
<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. He's eleven and one, which I

947
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:44.880
<v Speaker 2>don't think like matters as much as it used to.

948
00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:49.199
<v Speaker 2>But it's like, yeah, he goes like, you know, eighteen

949
00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:53.639
<v Speaker 2>and three, like it looks pretty right, Like it looks it.

950
00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Allows to kick up some votes from the voters who

951
00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:00.119
<v Speaker 1>still care about that. There are much fewer voters who

952
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:00.559
<v Speaker 1>care about it.

953
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:01.239
<v Speaker 2>They're still out there.

954
00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:02.480
<v Speaker 1>They're still out there.

955
00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:04.519
<v Speaker 2>He's got a two and a half ra playing his

956
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:07.880
<v Speaker 2>home games and Citizen not Citizens Bank, Great American Ballpark,

957
00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:10.840
<v Speaker 2>and like, again, the strikeout numbers are good. I'm not

958
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:13.320
<v Speaker 2>as good as Mizierowski's, but they're quite good. I just

959
00:51:13.400 --> 00:51:15.360
<v Speaker 2>think he could be like the I think it'll be

960
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:20.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of a like a split vote kind of race,

961
00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:23.039
<v Speaker 2>and I think he could win just being like second

962
00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:24.920
<v Speaker 2>on a lot of people's ballots or something like that too,

963
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:28.320
<v Speaker 2>that's the first place votes as well. But I think

964
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:31.679
<v Speaker 2>he'll be like the Like he could just be like

965
00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:33.800
<v Speaker 2>he's just really good. Like I don't want I'm like

966
00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:36.559
<v Speaker 2>trying to like come up with these weird like edge cases,

967
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:38.199
<v Speaker 2>but he's just he might be the best picture in

968
00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:40.679
<v Speaker 2>the National League. It's not impossible that he is just

969
00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:45.760
<v Speaker 2>the best picture in the National League. Like he's still

970
00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:47.360
<v Speaker 2>like I you know, he's it's not like he's working

971
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:51.239
<v Speaker 2>super deep into games. He's averaging under six innings a start,

972
00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:56.639
<v Speaker 2>but again that's not as uh, you know, much of

973
00:51:56.719 --> 00:51:59.480
<v Speaker 2>his impediment. Like there's nobody here outside of Sancho's right,

974
00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:02.480
<v Speaker 2>there's nobody here that's likely to throw a ton more

975
00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:04.920
<v Speaker 2>innings than that. You know, Misowski is a little over six,

976
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:08.239
<v Speaker 2>and again, like he's the he is the guy. He's

977
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:10.199
<v Speaker 2>struck out one hundred and sixty seven and one hundred

978
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:12.039
<v Speaker 2>and eleven innings that's a one point sixty two. You

979
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:14.039
<v Speaker 2>are right, this is his to lose at this point,

980
00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:16.840
<v Speaker 2>but you know he's capable of losing the Zigner any

981
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:19.519
<v Speaker 2>given time, or getting injured, or just having a couple

982
00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:21.239
<v Speaker 2>of blow up starts here and there to make this

983
00:52:21.320 --> 00:52:22.119
<v Speaker 2>a little bit closer.

984
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:31.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Patrick, Sure, Uh So, my prediction is that we

985
00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:37.360
<v Speaker 3>see one surprising, if not shocking, white flag trade. Uh So, Craig,

986
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:39.039
<v Speaker 3>you wrote an article a game on site today just

987
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:44.039
<v Speaker 3>about how weird the deadline is and how how how

988
00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:47.280
<v Speaker 3>confused what buying and selling is going to mean. I

989
00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:49.760
<v Speaker 3>do think we're gonna I do think Griffin Jackson is

990
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:53.039
<v Speaker 3>going to be common. But I think we have one

991
00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:55.760
<v Speaker 3>team that is just going to look at a twenty

992
00:52:55.800 --> 00:52:57.360
<v Speaker 3>five to thirty playoff odds.

993
00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:00.360
<v Speaker 1>You say Griffin Jackson, and I know we brought him

994
00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:05.039
<v Speaker 1>up before, But like the that was a pretty straight buy,

995
00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:09.199
<v Speaker 1>was it, like the Twins were just the Twins were

996
00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:09.920
<v Speaker 1>just selling.

997
00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:12.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but the Rays didn't. I mean, that was buying,

998
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:14.639
<v Speaker 3>but it wasn't buying in the conventional We're making a

999
00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:16.320
<v Speaker 3>move at the deadline. The Rays were out of it

1000
00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:19.039
<v Speaker 3>by that point too. They were just looking at next year.

1001
00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:21.239
<v Speaker 1>And then okay, okay, oh, okay, I'm with you.

1002
00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:23.360
<v Speaker 3>What I'm saying is that you're not buying in the

1003
00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:26.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm buying for this race right now. Yeah, I'm with

1004
00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:30.639
<v Speaker 3>and the Rays certainly could have also an oh, somebody

1005
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:33.000
<v Speaker 3>wants Griffin Jacks for more than we paid for him,

1006
00:53:33.079 --> 00:53:36.079
<v Speaker 3>will happily flip him if the idea comes. Yeah, this

1007
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:39.920
<v Speaker 3>is where we're trading for value rather than going all

1008
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:42.840
<v Speaker 3>in as I think. I think you're going to see

1009
00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:46.480
<v Speaker 3>a lot of But I do think that there's going

1010
00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:49.760
<v Speaker 3>to be at least one team that by you know,

1011
00:53:49.920 --> 00:53:53.320
<v Speaker 3>because everybody's in it, one team is going to go. No.

1012
00:53:53.480 --> 00:53:55.760
<v Speaker 3>The prices here are too good to sell. And I

1013
00:53:55.800 --> 00:53:58.320
<v Speaker 3>think the prices will be good to sell because there's

1014
00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:03.000
<v Speaker 3>not that many people that And I think the Cardinals

1015
00:54:03.039 --> 00:54:05.199
<v Speaker 3>strike me as the team that's most likely to do it,

1016
00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:09.639
<v Speaker 3>just because blooms early in his tenure. The Cardinals are

1017
00:54:09.639 --> 00:54:12.760
<v Speaker 3>a year early. They're in it, but they're not you know,

1018
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:16.400
<v Speaker 3>the by peripherals, by by the metrics, and not as

1019
00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:20.599
<v Speaker 3>strong as maybe their their record looks by pythak. They're

1020
00:54:20.679 --> 00:54:24.719
<v Speaker 3>one game over five hundred. I could see them going now, Actually,

1021
00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:28.079
<v Speaker 3>we'll just go ahead and trade New Bar. Well, we'll trade,

1022
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:32.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, right in May with Dustin May, I can

1023
00:54:33.719 --> 00:54:38.039
<v Speaker 3>Riley O'Brien even maybe it's thirty one and just being like, no,

1024
00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:41.840
<v Speaker 3>we we prefer to we'd prefer to just catch this

1025
00:54:41.960 --> 00:54:44.320
<v Speaker 3>in for next year instead. And I'm interested to see

1026
00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:46.679
<v Speaker 3>to see how people are going to react to that. Yeah,

1027
00:54:46.760 --> 00:54:49.119
<v Speaker 3>because the Cordonels go ahead.

1028
00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:54.639
<v Speaker 1>Well, I just think the the only counter pressure to that,

1029
00:54:54.960 --> 00:54:59.280
<v Speaker 1>I agree with everything you've played out is that Saint

1030
00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Lewis fans don't tolerate. I mean, this was essentially what

1031
00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:07.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of our essay was about in the Annual

1032
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:10.840
<v Speaker 1>this year from from Jeff Jones, right like, it's been

1033
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:15.960
<v Speaker 1>three losing seasons and they've in a lot of ways

1034
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:18.960
<v Speaker 1>deserted in terms of showing up. They have like deserted

1035
00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:22.360
<v Speaker 1>to see their attendance had plummeted, right like, they don't.

1036
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:28.920
<v Speaker 1>No one likes losing, sure, but we're not dealing with

1037
00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:32.079
<v Speaker 1>this is a fan base that that takes it very seriously.

1038
00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Right in a lot of ways them might say they're

1039
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:36.079
<v Speaker 2>the best fans in baseball.

1040
00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:39.639
<v Speaker 1>Craik, I'm not saying that, But the the thing about

1041
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:45.000
<v Speaker 1>that is, I just I wonder if there's any pressure

1042
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:47.920
<v Speaker 1>the other way applied by the fact that, like they are,

1043
00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:51.079
<v Speaker 1>they're at least good now. They might not they're not great,

1044
00:55:51.159 --> 00:55:53.280
<v Speaker 1>but they're at least good now. And like if you

1045
00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:57.079
<v Speaker 1>go into if you sell into a fourth losing season,

1046
00:55:57.840 --> 00:56:01.360
<v Speaker 1>So I guess, how much image do you do? You do?

1047
00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:05.159
<v Speaker 3>It's only it's only there's only two They went eighty

1048
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:06.519
<v Speaker 3>three and seventy nine twenty.

1049
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, but they missed the playoffs.

1050
00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:09.920
<v Speaker 3>They missed the playoffs for three straight years. But that's

1051
00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:13.360
<v Speaker 3>considered a losing season for them, right, But but it's

1052
00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:16.360
<v Speaker 3>making the third wild card and losing two games and exiting.

1053
00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:17.320
<v Speaker 3>Is that a winning season?

1054
00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:20.719
<v Speaker 2>Like, I don't know, but more so than the right

1055
00:56:20.880 --> 00:56:23.559
<v Speaker 2>And you're at least like showing you're showing trend lines

1056
00:56:23.599 --> 00:56:26.719
<v Speaker 2>there too, like you can especially with like weather, Holt

1057
00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:29.519
<v Speaker 2>and Walker and like having their breakouts and things like that, Like, look,

1058
00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:31.880
<v Speaker 2>do I think they can really repeat this next year

1059
00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:34.000
<v Speaker 2>with the pitching they have right now? No, But also

1060
00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:35.840
<v Speaker 2>they're a good chance of pitching is just better next

1061
00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:38.079
<v Speaker 2>year because I have different guys. Look, I could see

1062
00:56:38.079 --> 00:56:41.000
<v Speaker 2>them trading like Dustin May, Jojo Romero and Lars new

1063
00:56:41.079 --> 00:56:45.920
<v Speaker 2>bar and you know, taking advantage of a fairly shallow market,

1064
00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:50.519
<v Speaker 2>especially for outfield and starting pitching and like not and

1065
00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:54.119
<v Speaker 2>like still be okay, sure, and it's like they're not

1066
00:56:54.239 --> 00:56:56.960
<v Speaker 2>like I think they can call the playoffs and do that.

1067
00:56:57.199 --> 00:56:59.559
<v Speaker 2>I think it's gonna they might miss it anyway though,

1068
00:56:59.639 --> 00:57:02.000
<v Speaker 2>like right, like and like if they call up like

1069
00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:04.559
<v Speaker 2>Quinn Matthews. I think Quinn Matthews can come up and

1070
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:06.920
<v Speaker 2>pitch about as well as Dustin May right now, right.

1071
00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Like okay, But if you keep Dustin May and call

1072
00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:11.440
<v Speaker 1>up Quinn Matthews, then you have two of those guys.

1073
00:57:11.599 --> 00:57:14.280
<v Speaker 1>And I wire someone you have three of those guys

1074
00:57:14.360 --> 00:57:17.920
<v Speaker 1>and they don't have any real you know, their pitching

1075
00:57:18.039 --> 00:57:21.199
<v Speaker 1>is not they have easily identifiable.

1076
00:57:21.960 --> 00:57:23.400
<v Speaker 2>Right, And I will you know, I will ask a

1077
00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:25.840
<v Speaker 2>question that will only be asked on this podcast, But

1078
00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:28.360
<v Speaker 2>is Large New Bar actually better than Nelson Alaska's at

1079
00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:28.719
<v Speaker 2>this point?

1080
00:57:31.079 --> 00:57:31.280
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

1081
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:33.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean I at least thought you were gonna say,

1082
00:57:33.719 --> 00:57:35.480
<v Speaker 1>like Nathan Church if he's going.

1083
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean he hasn't been, and Nelson Alaskas has so.

1084
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but Nelson Alaskis does this every year, and maybe

1085
00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:46.039
<v Speaker 1>he'll do it for the rest of the year. Maybe,

1086
00:57:46.840 --> 00:57:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I my recom.

1087
00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:53.480
<v Speaker 2>I guess the question is, and then you might just

1088
00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:55.159
<v Speaker 2>have to trade Dustin May if you don't feel like

1089
00:57:55.199 --> 00:57:59.000
<v Speaker 2>you're going to qualify him anyway, Like I don't think

1090
00:57:59.079 --> 00:58:04.000
<v Speaker 2>you can can right, Like you're getting into that gallon ish.

1091
00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:06.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's like his platform here will actually be

1092
00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:11.960
<v Speaker 2>better than that gallon without that gallon, right, So like

1093
00:58:12.519 --> 00:58:13.519
<v Speaker 2>maybe you just move him.

1094
00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:19.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, look again, I think the plan was absolutely

1095
00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:21.840
<v Speaker 1>move all these guys and arguable.

1096
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Look, if you find a team that buys in on

1097
00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:27.159
<v Speaker 2>Michael McGreevy, like he struck out sixty six and one

1098
00:58:27.239 --> 00:58:27.880
<v Speaker 2>hundred and one.

1099
00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:30.239
<v Speaker 1>We're talking about May. Dustin May has a four or

1100
00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:31.119
<v Speaker 1>five e rs.

1101
00:58:31.159 --> 00:58:33.360
<v Speaker 2>I know there's not a lot of starting pitching.

1102
00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:35.239
<v Speaker 1>Is much better.

1103
00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:39.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, could use the violins, could use Dustin May, and

1104
00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:44.960
<v Speaker 2>we'll move him from the ugly Red Cardinals or whatever

1105
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:49.159
<v Speaker 2>the Barlan's turns out when yeah, well, yeah, great, We're

1106
00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:51.599
<v Speaker 2>just gonna run all of Craig's aesthetic nightmares for Dustin

1107
00:58:51.679 --> 00:58:53.320
<v Speaker 2>May beat around them.

1108
00:58:53.760 --> 00:59:01.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even again, I get Yeah, I think there

1109
00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:05.800
<v Speaker 1>are a number of teams that are currently in contention

1110
00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:12.119
<v Speaker 1>that have the opportunity to do this right, Like, the

1111
00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Cardinals aren't even in the playoffs right now, they're a

1112
00:59:14.440 --> 00:59:17.119
<v Speaker 1>game out. The Nationals are four games out. I think

1113
00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:19.880
<v Speaker 1>the Nationals will they don't know con but yeah they

1114
00:59:19.920 --> 00:59:24.199
<v Speaker 1>can move in whatever they can. Yeah, right, But even

1115
00:59:24.400 --> 00:59:26.480
<v Speaker 1>even those teams, I think it's going to be somewhat

1116
00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:31.440
<v Speaker 1>mitigated to what it could be. Twins, these teams that

1117
00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:35.599
<v Speaker 1>have had no hope the last few years are now

1118
00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:38.199
<v Speaker 1>in a very awkward position. I know a lot of

1119
00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:41.639
<v Speaker 1>these guys are analytical and care about the long term

1120
00:59:41.719 --> 00:59:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and keep their eyes on the horizon more than right

1121
00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:45.639
<v Speaker 1>in front of them.

1122
00:59:45.960 --> 00:59:49.440
<v Speaker 2>They're literally tied for a wildcard spot, holy fun, and and.

1123
00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Are bloodless about this, right, But I do think and

1124
00:59:54.360 --> 00:59:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that can still be the case in the

1125
00:59:55.840 --> 01:00:00.159
<v Speaker 1>overall trajectory. But I do wonder if it doesn't bit

1126
01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:02.559
<v Speaker 1>of like we're not selling everything that's not Neil.

1127
01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like it's time for some game theory. How long

1128
01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:08.199
<v Speaker 2>you run into like if you're the Twins specifically, right,

1129
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:10.159
<v Speaker 2>it's like even if you think you're.

1130
01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:13.360
<v Speaker 1>The owner, keeps coming out and saying we're we're fucking

1131
01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:14.559
<v Speaker 1>in it, and they are.

1132
01:00:14.760 --> 01:00:16.599
<v Speaker 2>As it turns, But like even if you think you

1133
01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:18.360
<v Speaker 2>want to buy, are you going to buy more than

1134
01:00:18.360 --> 01:00:18.960
<v Speaker 2>the Red Sox?

1135
01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:22.039
<v Speaker 3>Well, and also with the Twins, even if you sell

1136
01:00:25.519 --> 01:00:27.519
<v Speaker 3>the Cardinals, you could at least go Yeah, we think

1137
01:00:27.639 --> 01:00:29.760
<v Speaker 3>next we want to we want to up our chances

1138
01:00:29.800 --> 01:00:31.840
<v Speaker 3>for next year. Twins are like, this is it and

1139
01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:33.079
<v Speaker 3>we better take advantage of it.

1140
01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:35.239
<v Speaker 2>Like dust m a and Jojo Romero probably aren't here

1141
01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:36.920
<v Speaker 2>next year anyway, so it's like, yeah.

1142
01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Well and also then again you get to like the

1143
01:00:40.920 --> 01:00:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Orioles and the Blue Jays and like, you know, Michael

1144
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Ia says we're gonna buy, but like does he know

1145
01:00:47.880 --> 01:00:51.519
<v Speaker 1>how we're gonna and how committed is there's no evidence yet,

1146
01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:52.719
<v Speaker 1>citation needed.

1147
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:55.400
<v Speaker 3>Don't threaten us with a bad time, but like.

1148
01:00:55.639 --> 01:00:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Also, you know, citation needed on we're going to buy?

1149
01:00:59.559 --> 01:01:03.760
<v Speaker 1>But all so, how committed are you to that? You know, again,

1150
01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:06.000
<v Speaker 1>they've now won they won three in a row, they

1151
01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:07.239
<v Speaker 1>lost three in a row and then won four in

1152
01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:07.559
<v Speaker 1>a row.

1153
01:01:07.719 --> 01:01:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess we can transition to your bold prediction

1154
01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:12.519
<v Speaker 2>now since we're talking about Yeah, okay.

1155
01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:14.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's fair. My my bold prediction is the Al

1156
01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:18.800
<v Speaker 1>East gets four playoff teams. I don't even know how

1157
01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:22.199
<v Speaker 1>bold that is. The Red Sox have one nine in

1158
01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:22.519
<v Speaker 1>a row.

1159
01:01:22.679 --> 01:01:25.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're one game out, Sam, They're one game out.

1160
01:01:26.480 --> 01:01:29.880
<v Speaker 1>The Orioles are two games out, and the Blue Jays

1161
01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:32.400
<v Speaker 1>are two and a half. It's just that there are

1162
01:01:32.440 --> 01:01:35.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of teams here, right, But what this so

1163
01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:38.119
<v Speaker 1>the Yankees are They're all like the you feel like

1164
01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:41.239
<v Speaker 1>I feel fine. The Yankees are making sure, the Rays

1165
01:01:41.280 --> 01:01:44.199
<v Speaker 1>are making it. The Rays are being well, yeah, it's

1166
01:01:44.239 --> 01:01:45.159
<v Speaker 1>probably crank company.

1167
01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:52.199
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Craig, Okay, okay, okay, Craig, I had to like

1168
01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:53.679
<v Speaker 2>you tell me like that.

1169
01:01:54.039 --> 01:01:56.280
<v Speaker 1>I do want to point that was a bit I

1170
01:01:56.400 --> 01:01:56.679
<v Speaker 1>had to.

1171
01:01:56.920 --> 01:02:00.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel great about the Blue and Oos. I

1172
01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:04.639
<v Speaker 2>think the Red Sox might actually be pretty not pretty

1173
01:02:04.679 --> 01:02:06.559
<v Speaker 2>good now, but good enough to get to like eighty

1174
01:02:06.639 --> 01:02:08.440
<v Speaker 2>six wins, which will probably be enough.

1175
01:02:11.360 --> 01:02:14.639
<v Speaker 1>Like your kid, socks are are a game and a

1176
01:02:14.719 --> 01:02:16.000
<v Speaker 1>half better than the Orioles right now.

1177
01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:18.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you could tell me they're a better team. I

1178
01:02:18.679 --> 01:02:20.320
<v Speaker 2>think I think they're a better team right now. You

1179
01:02:20.400 --> 01:02:23.480
<v Speaker 2>could tell me that the or Like, I could be

1180
01:02:23.599 --> 01:02:26.360
<v Speaker 2>easily convinced the Oriols and Jays are better than the

1181
01:02:26.440 --> 01:02:29.519
<v Speaker 2>Rangers and the Twins. And that's also all close enough

1182
01:02:29.599 --> 01:02:35.000
<v Speaker 2>now that you know, over seventy games, like that might

1183
01:02:35.039 --> 01:02:37.480
<v Speaker 2>be enough, Like you could talk to me. I just

1184
01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:39.800
<v Speaker 2>they are still going to play. These teams are still

1185
01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:40.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna play each other a fair bit.

1186
01:02:41.559 --> 01:02:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's the hard part. Well, I think that's

1187
01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:47.239
<v Speaker 1>honestly what makes it bold? Yeah, I don't know, because

1188
01:02:48.599 --> 01:02:50.719
<v Speaker 1>the Guardians, Twins, Mariners.

1189
01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, like the other thing is the any

1190
01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:58.159
<v Speaker 2>of these aos teams are the Twins can just like

1191
01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:04.119
<v Speaker 2>lose four out of six to the Angels and Royals,

1192
01:03:04.199 --> 01:03:08.320
<v Speaker 2>like it's things that can happen. Yeah, I don't Yeah,

1193
01:03:09.480 --> 01:03:12.119
<v Speaker 2>got the It's one thing I'm not looking I'm not

1194
01:03:12.280 --> 01:03:16.119
<v Speaker 2>looking forward just at the race over the next two

1195
01:03:16.159 --> 01:03:16.800
<v Speaker 2>and a half months.

1196
01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:19.119
<v Speaker 1>But a lot of this to me is the posture

1197
01:03:19.639 --> 01:03:23.800
<v Speaker 1>of this, right is that like to your point, like

1198
01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:25.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe the Red so can you buy more than the Red.

1199
01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:28.119
<v Speaker 2>Sox, right, And there's like there's there's more pressure on

1200
01:03:28.199 --> 01:03:31.760
<v Speaker 2>the right are gonna buy? Right, there's more pressures and

1201
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:35.239
<v Speaker 2>orioles to make the playoffs, And there is the Rangers

1202
01:03:35.719 --> 01:03:41.400
<v Speaker 2>probably even the Mariners frankly, and the Twins so exactly.

1203
01:03:41.239 --> 01:03:44.840
<v Speaker 1>And and so I think again it's also buying looks like.

1204
01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:47.760
<v Speaker 2>It's entirely possible one or both of the White Sox

1205
01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:49.519
<v Speaker 2>and Guardians come back to the pack here too.

1206
01:03:50.440 --> 01:03:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, absolutely, I don't. I mean you think I

1207
01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:55.559
<v Speaker 1>I think the Rays are frauds, like, yeah, don't get

1208
01:03:55.599 --> 01:03:58.000
<v Speaker 1>me started on the Guardians who proved me wrong every year.

1209
01:03:58.079 --> 01:03:58.760
<v Speaker 1>But I still think it.

1210
01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:00.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they could win the division stebe frauds.

1211
01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:06.880
<v Speaker 1>They did last year. So yeah, that's that's my prediction.

1212
01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:10.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know.

1213
01:04:11.159 --> 01:04:11.559
<v Speaker 3>Explanation.

1214
01:04:11.679 --> 01:04:13.559
<v Speaker 1>Let's go to our fourth segment. We'll go around the horn.

1215
01:04:14.599 --> 01:04:18.199
<v Speaker 1>We had a trade Patrick, I mentioned you wrote up

1216
01:04:18.239 --> 01:04:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the transaction analysis and it was at least partially halfway

1217
01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:22.800
<v Speaker 1>about your deck, but it was a it was a

1218
01:04:22.840 --> 01:04:23.440
<v Speaker 1>good metaphor.

1219
01:04:23.559 --> 01:04:30.599
<v Speaker 3>The metaphor Lancepa Colors and and uh, you know, think

1220
01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:34.039
<v Speaker 3>of half his remaining salary are going to Milwaukee.

1221
01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:37.440
<v Speaker 2>The right arm of theseus riginal parts left at it.

1222
01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:40.880
<v Speaker 3>Uh, it is made out of actual wood putty. At

1223
01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:45.519
<v Speaker 3>this point, Uh, he is joining Colton Gordon in traveling

1224
01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:49.079
<v Speaker 3>over at Colton Gordon. The actual trade receipt for this trade,

1225
01:04:50.039 --> 01:04:50.280
<v Speaker 3>this is.

1226
01:04:50.280 --> 01:04:51.760
<v Speaker 2>A Berry Brewers acquisition.

1227
01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:56.599
<v Speaker 1>I said that on On effectively Wild earlier this morning.

1228
01:04:56.679 --> 01:05:00.159
<v Speaker 1>And I also called him Tanner Gordon and I I'm

1229
01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:02.559
<v Speaker 1>gonna posit what I said there. I apologize for anyone

1230
01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:05.679
<v Speaker 1>who listens to both, but Tanner and Colton are the

1231
01:05:05.719 --> 01:05:10.679
<v Speaker 1>same name to me there, They're very different phonetically, but

1232
01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:11.199
<v Speaker 1>they are.

1233
01:05:14.360 --> 01:05:18.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So so mccullor's like basically has been rehabbing from

1234
01:05:18.559 --> 01:05:22.599
<v Speaker 3>his you know, like rotator cuff because God knows, you know.

1235
01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:26.199
<v Speaker 3>Like mccullor's like, I'm shocked that he just doesn't have

1236
01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:29.159
<v Speaker 3>t s as well. And these just all three, like

1237
01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:31.239
<v Speaker 3>they have the first picture to have all three major

1238
01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:35.000
<v Speaker 3>arm injuries at the same time. He is rehabbing. He's

1239
01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:38.280
<v Speaker 3>been okay in triple A. He should be ready soon.

1240
01:05:39.079 --> 01:05:43.280
<v Speaker 3>The Brewers don't have enough pictures right now. I believe

1241
01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:48.880
<v Speaker 3>they are starting Robert Gasser in the fifth spot. It's

1242
01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:52.679
<v Speaker 3>it's like they're they're kind of out of backups, so

1243
01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:57.960
<v Speaker 3>they needed some more depth. I don't know if mccullor's

1244
01:05:58.000 --> 01:05:59.400
<v Speaker 3>is going to help them. I don't think they know

1245
01:05:59.480 --> 01:06:01.360
<v Speaker 3>if mcaullor's is going to help them, but he's essentially

1246
01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:04.719
<v Speaker 3>you know, I mean, oh, they signed Bryce Wilson, that's right.

1247
01:06:04.760 --> 01:06:08.360
<v Speaker 3>They resigned Bryce Wilson. Uh, Like, what if what if

1248
01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:10.559
<v Speaker 3>there's a Carlos Carasco that some other teams also got

1249
01:06:10.599 --> 01:06:12.679
<v Speaker 3>to use sometimes and so you occasionally just don't get

1250
01:06:12.719 --> 01:06:14.639
<v Speaker 3>to have him when you need to call him. Like

1251
01:06:14.679 --> 01:06:17.119
<v Speaker 3>imagine if the Braves had to like take wait in line.

1252
01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I think some of this they are just the astros

1253
01:06:20.840 --> 01:06:22.679
<v Speaker 2>want to clear this money so they can make a

1254
01:06:22.719 --> 01:06:24.199
<v Speaker 2>by trade because I.

1255
01:06:24.239 --> 01:06:25.599
<v Speaker 3>Guess they're close to the salary cap.

1256
01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:31.079
<v Speaker 2>It's not a cap, but they but it's not a cap,

1257
01:06:32.519 --> 01:06:34.159
<v Speaker 2>and like maybe they get something out of my college.

1258
01:06:34.199 --> 01:06:38.079
<v Speaker 2>They're basically buying a prospect. Hereinge go with MCC's remaining salary,

1259
01:06:38.119 --> 01:06:39.000
<v Speaker 2>which is not a ton.

1260
01:06:39.599 --> 01:06:42.840
<v Speaker 3>And and Gordon has like I thought he was just

1261
01:06:42.960 --> 01:06:45.800
<v Speaker 3>bad because every time I see him he's bad. In

1262
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:47.039
<v Speaker 3>Triple A, he's actually been.

1263
01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:50.360
<v Speaker 1>He's he's it's weird.

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01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:53.239
<v Speaker 2>I think he's probably a reliever, but they can probably

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01:06:53.280 --> 01:06:54.920
<v Speaker 2>turn him into it, like a decent one out of

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01:06:55.000 --> 01:06:57.639
<v Speaker 2>this which for seven million or whatever it is is.

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01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:00.920
<v Speaker 3>It is weird that he as homer prone as he

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01:07:01.039 --> 01:07:03.920
<v Speaker 3>is given his profile, and if he is not homer prone,

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01:07:04.039 --> 01:07:08.320
<v Speaker 3>then he's a perfectly fine He's not to any guy, right,

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01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:12.039
<v Speaker 3>He's the old Chad Patrick before Chad Good, which chant

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01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:14.199
<v Speaker 3>Patrick turned into a good reliever. So maybe that's the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they're going to do that.

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01:07:16.239 --> 01:07:19.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you know, it's an interesting trade.

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01:07:20.320 --> 01:07:23.159
<v Speaker 1>I had someone say, we're going to get an article

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01:07:23.199 --> 01:07:26.159
<v Speaker 1>within a month on Gordon throwing his fastball less and

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01:07:26.519 --> 01:07:33.840
<v Speaker 1>having a lot more success elsewhere in the Central The

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01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:38.559
<v Speaker 1>subject of Jeffrey's bold prediction is going to stay in

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01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:41.679
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati for a while seven years.

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<v Speaker 2>I was told that small market teams can't afford to

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01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:46.000
<v Speaker 2>retain their best players.

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01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Craig, yeahs as it turned the week. And yet every

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01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:52.519
<v Speaker 1>year we see somewhere between seven and nine years and

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01:07:52.800 --> 01:07:58.159
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and five and one million dollars guys staying

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01:07:58.199 --> 01:08:01.480
<v Speaker 1>with their teams. Now they are usually were with those

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01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:04.960
<v Speaker 1>teams or at least under team control for many of

1286
01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:10.280
<v Speaker 1>those years. But nevertheless, Chase Burns, Yeah, we'll stay in

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01:08:10.280 --> 01:08:12.639
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati seven years, one hundred five million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>This may look I'm not going to begrudge any picture

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01:08:16.199 --> 01:08:18.159
<v Speaker 2>taking one hundred million dollars legon just of what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Was Fencer Strider right, like, you're always one arm injury away,

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01:08:23.199 --> 01:08:25.800
<v Speaker 2>and look if he doesn't get said arm injury, like

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01:08:25.880 --> 01:08:30.079
<v Speaker 2>he's still hitting free agency before his age thirty one season, Like,

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01:08:30.159 --> 01:08:31.680
<v Speaker 2>he won't be a super old free.

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<v Speaker 1>Agent, right and given that there will be no free

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01:08:35.359 --> 01:08:38.640
<v Speaker 1>agents because they're all signed to extensions. So I'll either

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01:08:38.640 --> 01:08:41.640
<v Speaker 1>sign an extension early or be one of you know,

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01:08:42.119 --> 01:08:45.359
<v Speaker 1>he'll be Uh, I don't know. Dylan Cees, sure right,

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01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Dylan Sees did very well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Elsewhere Tommy Troy, yep, goes on the IL.

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<v Speaker 2>This is how I learned that Brian Walschmidt was back,

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01:08:56.960 --> 01:08:58.279
<v Speaker 2>so I have to take him off the mid season

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01:08:58.359 --> 01:08:59.359
<v Speaker 2>fifty there's always one.

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01:08:59.720 --> 01:09:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes, they called him back up right before yeah, right

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01:09:02.720 --> 01:09:04.880
<v Speaker 1>before the break during the Dodgers series.

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01:09:05.119 --> 01:09:06.600
<v Speaker 3>It's a good chance for you to learn how Max

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01:09:06.720 --> 01:09:09.239
<v Speaker 3>Kepler is doing. Max Kepler's not doing great.

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01:09:09.479 --> 01:09:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, shocking, weird mm hmm h Tommy Tanks, Tommy White right, yes, yes,

1309
01:09:17.119 --> 01:09:19.359
<v Speaker 1>called up to the athletics.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, as soon. He's just replacing Kurts, I assume functionally,

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01:09:24.439 --> 01:09:28.479
<v Speaker 2>I mean, not actually replacing him, but taking his position if.

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01:09:28.399 --> 01:09:34.119
<v Speaker 1>Not production Yeah, uh yeah, I don't. I don't have anything.

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01:09:34.279 --> 01:09:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like I know he's not he's famous, but yeah, yeah,

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01:09:39.720 --> 01:09:42.319
<v Speaker 2>like I mean really since his freshman year at NT State,

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01:09:42.520 --> 01:09:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Like he hasn't actually lived up to the thirty home

1316
01:09:48.079 --> 01:09:50.119
<v Speaker 2>runs or whatever he had. But like hen like, it's

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01:09:50.159 --> 01:09:52.560
<v Speaker 2>not impossible. He can be some power the average hit

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01:09:52.600 --> 01:09:54.039
<v Speaker 2>or he has some power. He doesn't really, he's not

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01:09:54.079 --> 01:09:58.119
<v Speaker 2>really optimized. He swings too much. It's not a bad park,

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01:09:58.239 --> 01:09:59.119
<v Speaker 2>home park for him.

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<v Speaker 1>I am yeah, Patrick, let's get into it.

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01:10:05.119 --> 01:10:10.760
<v Speaker 3>M all right. So, uh, the the Sacramento Athletics designated

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<v Speaker 3>for silent one Aaron Okay, Civilly, the.

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01:10:19.319 --> 01:10:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Discord is going to be thrilled. So here's the here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing though, here's the thing, Patrick, what did you

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01:10:25.479 --> 01:10:26.399
<v Speaker 1>find on Wikipedia?

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<v Speaker 3>Last time I found the Wikipedia? Does it as civil?

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01:10:31.399 --> 01:10:36.680
<v Speaker 3>It was, yeah, which is what we have different pronunciations

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<v Speaker 3>on different like what.

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01:10:38.760 --> 01:10:41.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I've said at times, which is like Seveille

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01:10:41.520 --> 01:10:45.000
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, which is definitely not right. But yeah, it

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01:10:45.199 --> 01:10:52.880
<v Speaker 1>is b ref, says Civilly. Yes, Wikipedia, says Savally. And

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01:10:53.319 --> 01:10:55.359
<v Speaker 1>I will never go back and watch a start to

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01:10:55.439 --> 01:10:55.640
<v Speaker 1>tell you.

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01:10:55.960 --> 01:11:00.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I thought about it this morning and now, so

1336
01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:04.680
<v Speaker 3>what to watch is his next start? Wherever it is,

1337
01:11:05.479 --> 01:11:05.960
<v Speaker 3>where he.

1338
01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Lands, maybe it's in triple, it doesn't matter someone.

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01:11:09.279 --> 01:11:13.760
<v Speaker 3>It's absolutely gonna be Miami though, right I thought Colorado?

1340
01:11:14.680 --> 01:11:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, come on Ye, Colorado.

1341
01:11:17.359 --> 01:11:20.479
<v Speaker 3>He has a twenty five percent ground ball rate. This like,

1342
01:11:21.319 --> 01:11:23.279
<v Speaker 3>you cannot put this man in Colorado.

1343
01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:26.600
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna let tell me Yoki Sigano teach him some things.

1344
01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:29.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he would like give him at least give him

1345
01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:32.560
<v Speaker 3>the cal Quantrell like stick in the middle, relief in

1346
01:11:32.920 --> 01:11:35.800
<v Speaker 3>the shed so that he can just give up his

1347
01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:36.800
<v Speaker 3>fly balls and peace.

1348
01:11:36.880 --> 01:11:38.399
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, Texas seems viable.

1349
01:11:38.760 --> 01:11:43.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it does actually seem viable. But Miami needs somebody.

1350
01:11:43.039 --> 01:11:47.439
<v Speaker 1>And like maybe Houston needs a new Lance mc colors. Yeah,

1351
01:11:48.479 --> 01:11:50.880
<v Speaker 1>there are three games out of a playoff spot, you guys,

1352
01:11:51.319 --> 01:11:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I know sure.

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01:11:52.199 --> 01:11:56.760
<v Speaker 2>My original pick was Houston Wednesday n Ols. That would

1354
01:11:56.760 --> 01:12:01.600
<v Speaker 2>be amazing if they wanted to Aos. Yeah, uh, like

1355
01:12:01.680 --> 01:12:04.680
<v Speaker 2>I do think they're gonna buy. Like, it's not like

1356
01:12:04.760 --> 01:12:07.039
<v Speaker 2>so they they cleared the Lance mcclor's money. It's not

1357
01:12:07.079 --> 01:12:08.760
<v Speaker 2>like they were gonna get anything out of lancem colors

1358
01:12:08.840 --> 01:12:10.880
<v Speaker 2>that gives them money to spend on somewhere that might

1359
01:12:11.119 --> 01:12:12.079
<v Speaker 2>the other right, And this.

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01:12:12.239 --> 01:12:15.399
<v Speaker 1>Is what I mean again by by a weird deadline

1361
01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:18.960
<v Speaker 1>like Milwaukee is taking is clearing money for Houston.

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01:12:19.439 --> 01:12:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, to get.

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01:12:22.640 --> 01:12:25.479
<v Speaker 1>A Gordon Yeah Colton, can we get.

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01:12:25.439 --> 01:12:28.960
<v Speaker 2>This one's Colton, Yes, this one's Can we get Dustin

1365
01:12:29.039 --> 01:12:33.079
<v Speaker 2>May in the eighties Astro Jerseys? Honestly, that might might

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01:12:33.119 --> 01:12:35.399
<v Speaker 2>be a better Yeah, yeah, yeah, that.

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01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:37.760
<v Speaker 1>Might be as if you get them in the Tequila

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01:12:37.800 --> 01:12:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Sunrise ones something like that. In other news, Rock Chiluski. Yeah,

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01:12:48.520 --> 01:12:52.319
<v Speaker 1>if I may quote, the commiteion sets a bonus record,

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01:12:52.439 --> 01:12:56.640
<v Speaker 1>what is over ten? Yeah, the slot was over eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we'll just we'll just do this again next

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01:12:59.119 --> 01:13:00.000
<v Speaker 2>year probably.

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01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, he is not like who I would.

1374
01:13:07.600 --> 01:13:09.319
<v Speaker 2>We're just gonna do it again next year. Like it's

1375
01:13:10.920 --> 01:13:13.520
<v Speaker 2>because the slot they're trying, they're trying to like cut

1376
01:13:13.520 --> 01:13:16.279
<v Speaker 2>the draft in slots and CBA. I don't think they'll

1377
01:13:16.319 --> 01:13:18.560
<v Speaker 2>get there, so that whatever, like the first overall slot

1378
01:13:18.600 --> 01:13:20.520
<v Speaker 2>will be like twelve point two next year and someone

1379
01:13:20.520 --> 01:13:22.359
<v Speaker 2>will cut to ten point nine and get picked, and

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01:13:22.960 --> 01:13:26.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, we'll keep going right, almost like these guys

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01:13:26.680 --> 01:13:27.880
<v Speaker 2>are worth more than they are.

1382
01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:31.359
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if Steve Cohen has a famous quote yeah

1383
01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:36.760
<v Speaker 1>that in other news that might cut against MLB owner

1384
01:13:38.199 --> 01:13:43.800
<v Speaker 1>positioning in their in their labor negotiations. The Yankees are

1385
01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:49.039
<v Speaker 1>getting reportedly getting an investment of three billion dollars from Apollo.

1386
01:13:50.720 --> 01:13:52.520
<v Speaker 1>What is Apollo.

1387
01:13:51.920 --> 01:13:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Global whatever, it's a hedge fund.

1388
01:13:56.399 --> 01:13:58.359
<v Speaker 1>I had seen for fifteen percent.

1389
01:13:59.000 --> 01:14:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's some kind of debt equity combination.

1390
01:14:01.399 --> 01:14:03.560
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know exactly, but do we know what

1391
01:14:03.680 --> 01:14:08.720
<v Speaker 1>the valuation because if it's just fifteen percent or whatever,

1392
01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:14.359
<v Speaker 1>that which is not, which isn't, But I imagine the number,

1393
01:14:14.399 --> 01:14:16.920
<v Speaker 1>the valuation number is going to be very high. Yeah,

1394
01:14:18.600 --> 01:14:23.439
<v Speaker 1>and this amitst the owner saying like, our franchise valuations

1395
01:14:23.439 --> 01:14:26.520
<v Speaker 1>aren't high enough. So we'll see, we'll see, we'll see

1396
01:14:26.520 --> 01:14:29.159
<v Speaker 1>if that gets conveniently ignored or omitted.

1397
01:14:29.359 --> 01:14:33.479
<v Speaker 2>The Yankees don't count, right, Yeah, the Yankees are different.

1398
01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:35.439
<v Speaker 1>It's it's not like the padre is just so right

1399
01:14:37.079 --> 01:14:38.680
<v Speaker 1>voting on that. By the way, it's supposed to happen

1400
01:14:38.760 --> 01:14:42.359
<v Speaker 1>sometime in the second half, which takes us to a game.

1401
01:14:44.520 --> 01:14:47.920
<v Speaker 3>All right, our game is before and after. I worked

1402
01:14:48.640 --> 01:14:51.119
<v Speaker 3>hard on this. I will say I'm going to preface

1403
01:14:51.199 --> 01:14:53.680
<v Speaker 3>this by saying, last night, when I made this game,

1404
01:14:54.520 --> 01:14:59.680
<v Speaker 3>is perhaps the most tired I have been, because physically, mentally, spiritually,

1405
01:15:00.479 --> 01:15:03.920
<v Speaker 3>in a long time. Uh So, we'll see how you do.

1406
01:15:06.319 --> 01:15:12.000
<v Speaker 3>All right, you're ready? All right? A huge free agent

1407
01:15:12.119 --> 01:15:14.079
<v Speaker 3>bust closer for the Blue Jays who made the All

1408
01:15:14.119 --> 01:15:16.520
<v Speaker 3>Star Game in his first year with them, and it

1409
01:15:16.520 --> 01:15:19.319
<v Speaker 3>is seemingly the only rookie position player to struggle in

1410
01:15:19.439 --> 01:15:20.239
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty six.

1411
01:15:23.560 --> 01:15:28.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, bj Ryan Walschmidt, that's correct. Oh okay, I guess

1412
01:15:28.439 --> 01:15:29.479
<v Speaker 2>he was bad before he got sent.

1413
01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:33.680
<v Speaker 3>Ye he was, but eighty ops plus.

1414
01:15:35.039 --> 01:15:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Struggle struggle relative to every other rookie.

1415
01:15:37.840 --> 01:15:42.800
<v Speaker 3>Ye all right. A Hall of famer who want shited

1416
01:15:42.800 --> 01:15:45.319
<v Speaker 3>his pants in the Bolangio and a New York met

1417
01:15:45.439 --> 01:15:47.279
<v Speaker 3>who might get non tender this winter.

1418
01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:49.880
<v Speaker 2>George Brett Batty baby correct.

1419
01:15:49.840 --> 01:15:55.000
<v Speaker 3>Good, good, one all right. Number three, an oft injured

1420
01:15:55.039 --> 01:15:58.039
<v Speaker 3>pitcher nicknamed Big Sweat and a slugger who made the

1421
01:15:58.039 --> 01:15:59.960
<v Speaker 3>All Star team this decade at the age of forty.

1422
01:16:07.000 --> 01:16:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Nelson Cruise clothes, Big Sweat, Jimmy Nelson Cruise.

1423
01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:18.960
<v Speaker 3>There you go. One point for Craig Jimmy Elton Nelson,

1424
01:16:19.479 --> 01:16:22.199
<v Speaker 3>Big Sweat didn't know and no man if.

1425
01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:28.479
<v Speaker 2>I was going to go Ryan Nelson Cruise, that's flop Sweat.

1426
01:16:30.840 --> 01:16:34.640
<v Speaker 3>Right. Next one, a seventeen year fourth outfielder who was

1427
01:16:34.760 --> 01:16:38.680
<v Speaker 3>named after his dad's Hall of Fame Cardinals teammate, and

1428
01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:41.159
<v Speaker 3>the man who banished Will Craig to a different continent

1429
01:16:41.239 --> 01:16:42.399
<v Speaker 3>by evading a tag play.

1430
01:16:43.680 --> 01:16:48.399
<v Speaker 1>Stan Javier Bias. I only knew that because I know

1431
01:16:48.520 --> 01:16:52.279
<v Speaker 1>the name Stan Javier and I knew Javier Bias.

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01:16:53.880 --> 01:16:56.279
<v Speaker 3>All right, number five, we are tied up. It was

1433
01:16:56.279 --> 01:16:59.720
<v Speaker 3>an Island East total so Uh, a one time Tigers

1434
01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:02.439
<v Speaker 3>center field prospect who sold fifty six bases and three

1435
01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:05.039
<v Speaker 3>hundred and twenty one career games and the only Giants

1436
01:17:05.079 --> 01:17:06.239
<v Speaker 3>pitcher to make the All Star Team.

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01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:12.039
<v Speaker 2>Giants pitcher made the All Started.

1438
01:17:23.640 --> 01:17:25.319
<v Speaker 3>You really need to know the second part because I

1439
01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:27.039
<v Speaker 3>imagine you're not going to get the first part.

1440
01:17:27.359 --> 01:17:29.439
<v Speaker 2>I should, I mean I should probably know the first part.

1441
01:17:29.920 --> 01:17:37.479
<v Speaker 1>Well, but I don't. Oh nuke logan web correct. I

1442
01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:41.439
<v Speaker 1>all the pronunciation people, I apologize. I just was it

1443
01:17:41.560 --> 01:17:44.079
<v Speaker 1>was overwhelmed in the moment. It's nook. I know it's not.

1444
01:17:44.439 --> 01:17:46.279
<v Speaker 1>I apologize, all right.

1445
01:17:46.479 --> 01:17:50.079
<v Speaker 3>Next one, the third basement of the most common surname

1446
01:17:50.239 --> 01:17:52.720
<v Speaker 3>among Hall of famers and his second basement. It probably

1447
01:17:52.720 --> 01:17:54.479
<v Speaker 3>would have made it himself he hadn't been done.

1448
01:18:06.800 --> 01:18:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Brooks Robinson canal correct.

1449
01:18:09.279 --> 01:18:12.399
<v Speaker 3>Nice, good job, all right? Start at three with three left.

1450
01:18:13.800 --> 01:18:17.319
<v Speaker 3>Next one, a longtime dh who got his nickname from

1451
01:18:17.319 --> 01:18:19.920
<v Speaker 3>the bull his mom used to cut his hair, and

1452
01:18:20.039 --> 01:18:22.920
<v Speaker 3>the ace of the twenty twenty six Chicago White Sox staff.

1453
01:18:28.279 --> 01:18:31.199
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean I know the second one.

1454
01:18:31.960 --> 01:18:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Yep, longtime DH who got his nickname from the bowl

1455
01:18:36.680 --> 01:18:38.199
<v Speaker 3>his mom to use to cut his hair.

1456
01:18:42.920 --> 01:18:52.000
<v Speaker 2>I Chris Davis Martin.

1457
01:18:53.319 --> 01:18:57.199
<v Speaker 1>Bos Oh, that's I mean, that was a great I had.

1458
01:18:57.159 --> 01:18:59.119
<v Speaker 2>Two shots at it. Two because there's two Chris Davis's.

1459
01:19:00.079 --> 01:19:03.880
<v Speaker 3>That's okay, and I would have accepted either one.

1460
01:19:04.039 --> 01:19:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Yep, I don't, I don't. The nickname thing doesn't help

1461
01:19:10.079 --> 01:19:15.159
<v Speaker 1>me at all. I don't know, all right, give up,

1462
01:19:15.720 --> 01:19:18.119
<v Speaker 1>I guess so it was. I don't know. Is Ken

1463
01:19:18.199 --> 01:19:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Davis someone Ken Davis Martin? It's Chili Davis, oh, son

1464
01:19:23.199 --> 01:19:28.119
<v Speaker 1>of them? Yeah, and shame on me, all right.

1465
01:19:29.479 --> 01:19:32.039
<v Speaker 3>This one's a bit of a stretch. A second overall

1466
01:19:32.119 --> 01:19:33.840
<v Speaker 3>pick who won eight goal gloves and helped bring a

1467
01:19:33.920 --> 01:19:36.720
<v Speaker 3>championship to Kansas City and an eighth overall pick who

1468
01:19:36.800 --> 01:19:39.159
<v Speaker 3>drift around the league for a decade, hitting two thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven Alex Gordon Beckham.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, Oh see, I got Alex Gordon and I what's

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<v Speaker 1>weird is like you said a high pick and my

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<v Speaker 1>mind went to Gordon Beckham and then I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of this doesn't apply. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh Alex Gordon.

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<v Speaker 3>Wonder who all right? And last one? So Craig needs

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<v Speaker 3>this to tie. Yeah, a picture who lost sixty three

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<v Speaker 3>games between twenty twenty one and twenty twenty four and

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<v Speaker 3>a two hundred million dollar pitcher who's won sixty three

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<v Speaker 3>games in his entire career.

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<v Speaker 2>Thinking about this, this is a good like this one,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, two hundred million dollar pictures won sixty three?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey do you I?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I know the second one, but now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to do the picture.

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<v Speaker 3>And like, if you get the second one, then you

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<v Speaker 3>should know the first one.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I ask? Is the second one active?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you? How do you define active? He's on

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<v Speaker 3>the IL.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Well, I meant like.

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<v Speaker 2>Playing like, yeah he is, he is Patrick Corbyn Burns correct.

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<v Speaker 2>I was getting stuck on Dylan, so I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>gone on the first.

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<v Speaker 3>One because he has sixty three wins. Then yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>got I was very pleased when that came up to

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<v Speaker 3>seventy one wins.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's that's in the range. Yeah. I was also

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<v Speaker 2>locked down on Rockies Pictures.

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<v Speaker 3>There.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like but none of these Rockies pictures have like

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<v Speaker 2>first name, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Last thinking Kyle for some reason, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>What I was doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Patrick Burns, well done, Patrick, you loved it. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you put in the work, but you were smiling.

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<v Speaker 3>Throughout enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a good thing. Congratulations on your win, Jeffrey,

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