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Speaker 2: Hi, how's it going very well?

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Speaker 1: Stevie? What's happening with you? I bet you've been busy

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for the past forty eight hours.

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Speaker 2: I have, I have.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually in San Francisco right now. We're super Bowl

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country out here, So, well, what.

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Speaker 1: Is it like the day after? Because I'm in NASCAR

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country and I know what it's like to do four

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and five days on the infield of the Charlotte Motor Speedway,

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and that last day when everybody's going home is kind

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of a I don't know how to describe the vibe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and my husband's from Charlotte, so I'm familiar

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with NASCAR country as you speak of. But yeah, no,

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it's what's interesting on the advertising side is all the

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real work has happened leading up to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: So now we're on a bit of the come down

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on the other end.

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Speaker 3: But you know, we're you're sort of seeing the results

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of which ads stood out, What are people talking about?

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Speaker 2: You know, what are the narratives.

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Speaker 3: Coming out of the game, What are really people saying?

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here is the things that are standing out from last

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night are the game was a snoozefest, so thank god

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we had the ads because you had something to watch,

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healthcare and GLP one advertising and.

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Speaker 2: Return to humor.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of comedy was coming out of

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all of the spots last night, and people were trying

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to really land comedy again, which in past years always

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Speaker 1: Speaking of that tech talk, one of the greatest moments

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happened yesterday morning because I have my Alexa program to

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talk to me every single morning, and she reminded me

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Chris Himsworth, and I have never experienced that where she spoke, well,

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she's gonna correct me on the speaker. In a second,

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So there, but Alexa corrected me and and did things

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with me that that made sure that I was watching

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for that super Bowl commercial?

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Speaker 3: And how did you I'm curious, how did you feel

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knowing that your Alexa was actively telling you about advertising

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for your Alexa?

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Speaker 2: Did that make you happy? Sad in between a little bit? Like, way,

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what's going on here? How'd you feel about that?

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Speaker 1: I'm loving it. I'm loving it. It's a real because

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I'll tell you what. I will sit there and I'll say,

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you got to tell me more about this young blood Alexa.

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there and I'll have this conversation. Yeah, but here's the

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thing that blah blah blah blah blah blah, what should

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I be looking for the commercials? And and so it's

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really weird? Because she's I mean, Alexa will sit there

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, in Alexa's ad last night was all about Alexa.

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think that was an interesting take. And because you mentioned

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that your Alexa told you about advertising, there was another

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AI brand in the Super Bowl as well that called

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that out specifically. So and Claude had an ad talking

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about how their platform with AI will never feature or

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Speaker 3: Going on right now of saying, hey, we are inviting

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Speaker 2: Is that okay? Or is that not okay?

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Speaker 3: And I think that was they took the total opposite

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line in the sand in this household is I did

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not like the Dunkin Donut commercial, whereas my wife couldn't

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that effect on everybody across the country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been hearing a lot about this particular ad.

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not one of my favorites. And I'll tell you why

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it was, because it was a little complicated. We've Duncan

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Duncan guy. He's you know, he's from Boston. It all

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many things going on. They had a written explanation at

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the beginning trying to explain what you were about to see.

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to do. And then they sort of mixed up. They

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had Goodwill hunting and then they.

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Speaker 3: And if they'd stuck with one lane, if they'd just

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Speaker 2: Would have been just fine.

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Speaker 3: But it was just one too many things going on

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and really complicated, which I.

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Speaker 2: Think is why we're getting this sort of polarized response.

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Speaker 3: Is because we all know how good they have been,

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and this one just didn't quite hit the mark.

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Speaker 1: I got to know what they did in the production department, because,

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first of all, I don't want to be a judger,

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but I am somebody of radio for many years, and

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I am a voiceover actor. I did not like the

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announcer at all. That had to have been an AI

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technology announcer. There was no emotion. There was nothing about

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that announcer in that Duncan commercial that proved to me

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that it was real.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Of all the things in the Duncan commercial, I don't

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of those spots, and so I don't know where they

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Speaker 2: Sometimes no replacement for human talent. So I feel you

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Speaker 1: So am I really weird in thinking that they finally

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put hard liquor in there as an advertiser because the

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Victoria Justice commercial made me go, oh, this might be

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worth jumping off the wagon.

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Speaker 3: Well, the liquor has been a part of the Super

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Bowl in the past. Sveedka Vodka was also here last

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night with the bots, and they've shown up a year

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over year. So there are liquor brands that have been

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there before. Usually we're seeing beer brands and those are

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the ones that we tend to remember. But yeah, liquor

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Speaker 1: And of course sports gambling is the big thing. And

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here in the Caroline is what did we see? We

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see a bunch of stories about how teenagers are involved

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in spending sixty thousand of their Paris dollars and I'm going,

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oh my god, that's how you know that the commercials

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are going to be effective when your stories in the

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newspapers are going to be about sports, you know, gambling.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think I believe it was fan duel

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or Draft Kings had a spot last night featuring Colin

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but they're hitting you up for sports betting during the game.

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of years since we've been able to have betting sports

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betting more opened up across the country and legalized, so

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it's only going to continue.

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Speaker 1: In my heart, I am convinced that Ben Steeler and

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Benson Boone are going to be doing a movie together,

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and that was a pre promotion for something they've got planned.

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Speaker 3: I you know what, I think that would at least

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explain whatever it was they were doing.

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Speaker 2: So you're right.

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Speaker 3: I'd Ben Stiller been pretty visible lately with some of

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his productions. Interestingly that that AD's been getting a lot

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of airtime prior to the Super Bowl too.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't one of my favorites. It was early in

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Speaker 3: I don't I think it was one of my favorites

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because it didn't really tell me a lot about what

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instacart was bringing to the table. I don't need a

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lot of education about stuff like that, but it was

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it was a little weird for weird sake versus you know,

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Speaker 1: Another one that caught my attention and it was an

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one of the crowd favorites from the night. People love

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the Clydesdales, people love bald eagles, free bird playing in

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that one is going to be one of the standouts

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from the night. And I can't tell you whether they

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Speaker 1: One of the shockers for me was first of all,

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the special with the music, but then to see that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think it was interesting because you're

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referring to the Rocket and Redfin commercial where she where

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she sang the Mister Rogers songs. Interestingly, I've seen a

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lot of commentary where people if you didn't know, you

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didn't necessarily know it was Lady Gaga that was the

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Speaker 2: But yeah, a big night for her.

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Speaker 3: I think that goes to, honestly, her popularity as an artist.

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Speaker 3: And music and songs for the Super Bowl a lot

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of times based on mass appeal. You're trying to hit

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big swaths of audiences, and for her to have been

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this is a mega A list or superstar global popularity

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who is respected at least enough for her talent and

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her recognizability that she'll cut across a lot of demographics.

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she wanted some super Bowl checks.

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Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Stevie Archer coming

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up next. What were the best Super Bowl commercials? What

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were the clinkers? Let's get back with Stevie Archer. Kudos

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to Liquid IV because I think they've finally put on

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their grown up tennis shoes and are starting to play

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the real game, because when you've got someone like Propale

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knocking on your back door when it comes to making

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Speaker 2: It's interesting.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was fascinating that they took a step

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with William Shatner making fiber jokes. You had tight Ends

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making prostate sort of jokes. You had a lot of

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it is interesting to see Liquid iv it on such

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a mega stage. It sort of means that again, we're

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going to keep seeing the battle happen in terms of

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like who's going to reign Supreme and the gatorade, the

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propels and the hydration category everywhere, and that's where money's flowing.

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Speaker 1: Well, see that The thing about it is with the

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potty humor and stuff like that, everything that I read

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about these commercials, it was going to be based on

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a younger audience. And so being that I do have

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an essential job at a grocery store, I know who's

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buying things like liquid IV, and I thought they hit

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their target because it's not just the sports freaks and

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those that work out, it is every Tom Dick and Harry,

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mom and dad and everybody that's buying liquid IV. I

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thought they hit it right out of the park.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was super stand out. It was

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a very clear message.

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Speaker 2: And I think.

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Speaker 3: A lot of times when you see the younger demographic

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two the thing that you're gonna you're seeing is a

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lot of brands too that are using internet celebrities and influencers.

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those are the brands that were really going after those

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those markets. That's why Benson Boone was there, That's why

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of salesforce. Those are the brands that are going for

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those younger demographics too.

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Speaker 1: What is it about Rob Wriggle that we all feel

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comfort and we feel secure when he appears in a commercial.

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I don't understand what it is when it comes to

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loving this man for everything that he does.

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Speaker 3: Now that I can't fully speak to the scientific value

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of Rob Riggle's universal appeal, but I can tell you

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it's no mistake when he shows up in your ads

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that people with universal appeal are the ones that are

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getting selected.

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Speaker 2: A lot of.

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Speaker 3: Brands do do testing and do vetting of their talent

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with focus groups with people.

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Speaker 2: There's Q scores, there's E scores, There's.

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Speaker 3: All kinds of stuff that can quantify exactly why the

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Rob Wriggle effect might be taking place. But those celebrities

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that can kind of cross over a lot of demographics

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like that and make people feel their universal appeal, that's

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why they get the big checks.

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Speaker 1: And big kudos to Rich Cracker. First of all, the

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competition in that department. Not to sound like Shark Tank here,

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but there is a lot of competition out there, but

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Rich Cracker steps in there with who bow and Yang,

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who I think is a major force of the future.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they actually had quite the ensemble cast. They had

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Bowen Yang, they had John Ham, they had Scarlet Johansson

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and Bowen has certainly been.

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Speaker 2: On the rise.

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Speaker 3: So that's another one where you've seen a celebrity go

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from internet niche TikTok and podcast culture into SNL where

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he became a fixture into a major movie with Wicked.

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And now he's probably going to you know, be continuing

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his like film and TV career. So he's one where

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he can reach across both like the younger demographic, the

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tapped in cultural demographic, and he's got a you know,

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increasing the A list recognizability, which is you know why

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he's going to be starting, you know, showing up in

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more and more advertising.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm the production director, was the product production director

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for Iheartradios. One of the things that you clearly do

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when you're sitting inside that studio with your clients it

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is brand, brand, brand or sell sell sell. I felt

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branding last night. Did you feel the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's I think that's right for the

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most part.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of times the Super Bowl is

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about name recognition and memorability and creating that like top

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of mind consideration and awareness. You just want to be

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the first brand people think of when they're you know,

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going to pick up whatever item that is. I think

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there was a few brands that hit on really hard

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hitting product messages.

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Speaker 2: Glub Hub was one of them. They had the George.

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Speaker 3: Clooney spot where they the entire message was about Glubhub

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eating the fees, which I thought was one of the

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hardest hitting, like product messages we saw where they were

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really trying to make a point of difference between them

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and we've been seeing them and Uber eats and instacart

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Speaker 2: They've been going hard at it for a while.

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Speaker 3: The fact that they snuck in a rational product message

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I actually think was really smart because we've you know,

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we all of those brands start to run together after

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a while when we've got seventy five of them on

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our phones.

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Speaker 1: I think the one that really caught my attention and

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was more like a well why was the Elijah Wood

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commercial because it's like, Elijah, I haven't seen you in

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a movie in a while, who are you? What are

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you doing up there? Because Generation Alpha doesn't know who

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you are?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was an interesting casting choice. I think that

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was for Skittles and Yeah, and I think you know

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Skittles as a brand has always kind of taken offbeat choices.

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the question I'd be asking is whether they were really

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going after Gen Alpha or who they were trying to reach.

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is and I have to I have to get more

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educated on this myself. As you do get these little

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pockets of interesting cultural trends where on TikTok older things

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will emerge that suddenly Gen Z or Gen Alpha will

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grab onto and you kind of go weird come from

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and there are these little pockets of memes and trends

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that get grabbed onto. Right now, everybody's talking about twenty

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twenty six being twenty sixteen, so all the twenty sixteen

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stuff is popping back up, and we're in a big

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stage of nineties nostalgia, so he could be part of

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that wave is just going who are the big stars

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of the nineties, And we'll probably start seeing a lot

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of Elijah woodmeans coming out of last night.

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Speaker 1: Well, Skittles is onto something right now, because last night

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I tried something for the first time from Skittles, and

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it was Skittles for Weega and what happened is it's

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got chili pepper in it. It is Skittles that is

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so damn hot, but you couldn't put it down. It

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but you can't put it down. And that's why I'm

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thinking that they're going for the older people with a

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younger taste, if you know what I mean, because it

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mean it's the same thing with TikTok. The kids are

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going for the heat, but man, if they can introduce

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the adults to the heat, they got it made.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, it's It's interesting because they also had

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Nerds Gummies in the Aglass Night and the chewy candy

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category is the chewy gummy candy category is the fastest

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growing candy category like in the world right now. So

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between Skittles and Nerds Gummies, they're all trying to find

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the next new product innovation to grab somebody else and

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pull them in.

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Speaker 1: Well, man, you got to come back to this show

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anytime in the future. The door is always going to

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be open for you.

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Speaker 2: Awesome, thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Will be brilliant today, Okay, I will.

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Speaker 2: Try my very best. Likewise,

