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dot Great Detectives dot nit Now. From April twelfth, nineteen

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fifty one, here is the Big Threat.

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Speaker 2: The story you were about to hear is true, only

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the names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're

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a detective sergeant. You're assigned to robbery detail. A middle

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aged businessman in your city has robbed and beaten senseless,

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The hold up men escape, the victim refuses to report

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the crime. Your job investigate.

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Speaker 3: Dragnet, the documented drama of an actual crime. For the

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next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department,

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you will travel step by step on the side of

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the law through an actual case transcribed from official police files,

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from beginning to end, from crime to punishment. Dragnet is

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the story of your police force in action.

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Speaker 4: It was Tuesday, October eighth, was overcast in Los Angeles.

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We were working the day Watch out of Robbery detail.

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My partner's Ben Romero. The boss is Captain Bideon. My

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name is Friday. Was eleven twenty three am when we

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got to seven hundred South Hill Boulevards, the Butler Accordion

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Studios thing. Oh, I don't know, it must be upstairs,

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I guess, huh oh, yeah, yeah, there it is main office,

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second floor. Yeah. Who is that?

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Speaker 5: Joe right, had portrait up there on the wall in

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a minute, some printing underneath here, nice finny, that says

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Damian the father of the Accordion Vienna eighteen twenty nine.

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What do you know about that? Must be it down there? Huh, yeah,

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I want to try. Yeah, yes, sir.

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Speaker 4: Are you Lewis Butler?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right. Can I help you?

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Speaker 4: Police officers? Mister Butler like talk to you for a minute.

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Is your name Friday, Yes, sir, that's right, that's my partner,

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Sergeant Romero.

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Speaker 7: How do you do?

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, sergeant, I told you on the floor and

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I just don't want to talk about it.

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Speaker 4: We'd appreciate it if we could have your cooperation. It's

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pretty important matter.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm the only one concerning it as far as

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I can see. I just assume forget the whole thing. Besides,

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I got a pretty busy day ahead of me.

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Speaker 4: Well, we'd like to straighten me out, mister Butler. Concerns

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a lot more people than just yourself. No, we're not

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going to take much of your time. Just a few questions.

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Speaker 6: That's all I told you on the phone, Sergeant, I

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don't want to talk about it. Can't you just forget

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about the whole thing.

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Speaker 4: It's only going to take a few minutes there, all right,

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come in if you want, thank you.

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Speaker 6: Places in kind of a mess. Wife's away to mother's.

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You can sit down if you want. Oh, thank you

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very much. All right, Pepper, I'll feed you just a minute.

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Speaker 4: It's some nice cats you got there, Siamese a little bit.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's my wife's. Don't care too much for cats myself.

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All right, Pepper, No, wait a minute, dude knows that.

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Heny go, Pepper to hold you for a while.

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Speaker 7: Look at that.

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Speaker 4: Jill sure goes for that mail confidence, he sure does.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna have to make it fast, Sergeant, I got

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appointment for lunch down town.

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Speaker 4: All right, sir, I'd just like to have you elaborate

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on what doctor Hart told us.

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Speaker 6: Is he your family doctor, by the way, Yeah, that's right.

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He had no business calling you in the first place.

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I told him I didn't want it to get out.

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What'd he tell you?

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Speaker 5: He said you came to him for treatment night before last.

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He told him you had been beaten up and robbed.

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He treated you for cuts and bruises about the face

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and head.

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Speaker 6: No, it was nothing, didn't amount anything.

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Speaker 4: Well, was there actually a robbery, mister Butler?

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Speaker 6: Believe me, sergeant, it didn't amount anything. I don't even

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Speaker 4: How much did the robbery involve money?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'd rather not say. I don't want any

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fuss mate about it. That's why I didn't report it.

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Just thisn't worth it to me.

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Speaker 4: We understand the hold up man took more than eight

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hundred dollars from me. Wouldn't you like to get that

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money back?

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Speaker 6: I don't want to be nasty about this thing, but

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I was the one who was held up. Now, if

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I don't want to press the case, I don't see

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why anyone else should worry about it. It was my money.

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Speaker 4: How about the beating of the thieves gave you?

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Speaker 6: It's nothing serious. It's like I told you on the phone,

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I want to forget about the whole thing.

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Speaker 4: Well, it must have been involved more than just a

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few scratches from the looks of you, and the doctor

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had to treat you.

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Speaker 6: Take my word for a police. I'm all right. I

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don't want to press charges.

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Speaker 5: Appreciate it if you'd give us some kind of an explanation,

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Miss Butler.

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Speaker 6: Why I don't want to bother that's all. There's nothing

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to explain.

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Speaker 4: But you would have to admit that this is a

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little unusual. Somebody beats you up, slugs you, takes eight

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hundred dollars from you, and you don't want to do

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anything about it.

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Speaker 6: You're going to have to excuse me a minute. I

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have one of my accordion students down the hall in

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the practice room, almost time for him to go. I

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have to give him his lesson for next week, all right,

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So go out ahead. It'd long to be a me.

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Speaker 7: How about that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it acts like you're scared to dead. Well, whoever

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it was, they gave him a going over half of

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his head and bandage, his face all swollen. Sure, something funny. Well,

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he's not going to be much help unless we can

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talk him into a crime report. Somebody's got to him.

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Speaker 7: I'm bet on it.

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Speaker 4: Oh Ti there, kiddy, Hi kitty.

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Speaker 6: I've been thinking it over. Officers. Sorry, I had to

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come out here go to all this trouble, but I

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just as soon forget the whole thing. I don't even

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want to talk about it, if you don't mind.

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Speaker 4: We don't mean the high pressure you butler, but we

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like some kind of an explanation.

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Speaker 6: Can't you understand. I just don't want to make a

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big fuss about it. I'd like to have you go

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along with my feelings in the matter. It's my affair,

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isn't it.

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Speaker 4: No, sir, it's ours too. Half a dozen people like yourself.

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I have been beaten up and robbed in this neighborhood

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all in the last five weeks. Now, if we can

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find the thieves, we can put a stop to it.

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We can make sure the same thing doesn't happen to

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your neighbors.

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Speaker 6: Well, they're going to have to look out for themselves.

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I'm not getting tied up in a big investigation. The

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neighbors don't worry about me.

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Speaker 5: Freddie Good's a little further than then. You've been beaten

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up and robbed once. How do you know it isn't

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going to happen again.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's not, that's all. I'll make sure it doesn't.

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Speaker 4: How what's going to stop the same thieves from knocking

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you over again?

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Speaker 6: Look, if it's all the same to you, I want

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to forget about this. I'm going to have to be

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running along. It's getting late now.

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Speaker 4: It's just one more thing. Butler, when the doctor was

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treating you the other night, this doctor Hart, he says

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you told him that you knew who the hold of

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men were? Now, is that right?

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Speaker 6: No? He got it all mixed up. I didn't mean

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it that.

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Speaker 4: How did you mean it?

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Speaker 6: I'm in a funny position. I just can't explain, that's all.

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I can't take the chance good to hold up men

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threaten you. I can't talk about it. Give me a.

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Speaker 4: Break, please, you're making a mistake, mister. Play ball with

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those thieves and they'll ruin you.

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Speaker 6: It's not only me, it's my family too. I'm not

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going to take the chance.

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Speaker 4: If they threatened you and your family, you're taking more

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of a chance keeping quiet about it. They'll bleed your

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white blackmail, robbery, anything you can think of. Now, this

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has happened before. Can't you see the spot? I'm mean,

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I know who they are, I know what they can do.

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I got a wife to think about. Would you put

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your family in that position? If you're buying protection from

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a couple of hoods and now figured out, how much

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does it work? How far can you trust them?

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Speaker 6: If you pick them up, they'll know I told you

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I don't want anything to happen. Can't you see that?

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I haven't any choice? What else can I do?

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Speaker 4: Help us? Put the thieves where they belong. You'll have

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all the protection you needle.

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Speaker 6: Are locked up. It's a big order.

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Speaker 4: I don't know you and your wife will be under

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twenty four hour guard. Now that's a promise.

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Speaker 6: How long would that have to go on?

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Speaker 4: Long enough to bring them to trial and convict him?

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Speaker 6: How about it? They warned me about telling the police.

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They said they'd get both of us if I did,

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me and my wife. Now they meant it too, they'd

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get us. What can you do about it?

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Speaker 4: Them first? After another hour of talking, we finally persuaded

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the robbery victim, Lewis Butler, to come downtown with us.

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He dictated a full statement about the hold up and

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filed a crime report. He told us he'd been robbed

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and slugged late at night a few blocks from his

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music studio. Eight hundred and twenty dollars had been taken

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from him by two bandits, both of whom were armed,

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both of whom he recognized. He said. One of the

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men was a Marvin Carter, a former bartender at a

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neighborhood tavern. The other was Ralph Quincy, a merchant seaman.

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We went across the street and met with Deputy District

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Attorney Fred Henderson. The next day, the case was presented

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to the grand jury and a true bill was returned.

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The two suspects, Marvin Carter and Ralph Quincy were indicted

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on one count of armed robbery. That afternoon. Both of

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them were booked at the main jail and then released

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after posting a required bail of ten thousand dollars. Four

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point thirty PM. Ben and I went back to the

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office and met with Captain Dideon. I'm making out on

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a pretty fair shape, Skipper. The arraignment set for two

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weeks from Thirsty. How about protection for the victim?

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Speaker 6: Now it's all set up.

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Speaker 4: Butler and his wife are under twenty four hour guard,

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three teams of men on it.

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Speaker 5: There's two thieves getting out on bail. It's not going

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to make it any easier. I'll be working with from

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the DA's office.

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Speaker 4: Anderson seems to think we've got enough to convict both men.

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Speaker 6: What makes them so sure?

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Speaker 4: Well, for one thing, we got a line on a

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couple of good witnesses to the whold up.

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Speaker 6: Excuse me, robbery did in?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Might no, I'll check it before I leave, right.

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Speaker 4: I was that about witness. The man by the name

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of Bartlet runs a drug store. He and his son

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were in the neighborhood when Louis Butler was held up.

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They're supposed to have spotted the two thieves running from

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the scene.

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Speaker 5: Have you talked to him yet, just over the phone.

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We've got an appointment with him at six o'clock tonight.

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Take their statements. I guess I don't have to tell

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you to stay as close to this thing as you can.

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If we miss this time, we may not get another chance.

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You know as well as anyone out tough it's been

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reaching these things.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we wouldn't be this far along if Butler didn't

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decide to cooperate and file charges.

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Speaker 5: I wish I knew how many victims there are and

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this thing just like Butler, people we don't even know about.

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Speaker 4: Scared they don't dere file charges. Yes, there's a dozen

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of them anyway.

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Speaker 5: I can't figure people hire a police force on salary

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to protect them and their property, then they turn around

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try to make a deal with a bunch of hoods

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buy them off. How far have you gotten on the

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hold up gang behind me? The two men you've got

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Tam Carter and Quincy. Anyone else working with him possible?

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure yet. Both Carter and Quincy have juvenile records.

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That's about it. We're still checking on them.

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Speaker 5: Robbery didon yeah, Tom right.

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Speaker 7: No, I'll tell them.

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Speaker 6: They're here with me now, right, Thank you started already.

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Speaker 7: How's that?

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Speaker 5: The victim, Lewis Butler, he got a phone call at

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his house a few minutes ago. Yeah, I figured it

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was one of the hold up gang. They gave Butler

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a choice for They say either he drops the charges

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or they'll kill him.

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Speaker 4: Five pm Captain Diddion issued orders that the two suspects

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in the case, Marvin Carter and Ralph Quincy, be placed

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under twenty four hour surveillance. An additional team of men

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was assigned to guard Lois Butler. Each officer was carefully

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instructed to take all possible precautions to prevent the robbery

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victim and his wife from being harmed in any way.

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Six pm, Ben and I met with the two witnesses

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to the hold up, a drug store proprietor Sam Bartlett

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and his teenage son Harold. They told us that they'd

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been in the immediate vicinity the night Butler was robbed,

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and that they'd gotten a good look at the two

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gunmen as they ran from the scene of the hold up.

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Bartlett and his son Harold identified the suspects as Marvin Carter,

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and Ralph Quincy. Statements were taken and both witnesses were

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warned to maintain absolute secrecy about their part in the case.

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Next day we made arrangements to have the druggist and

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his son subpoena for the Superior court arrangement. Six days

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went by Thursday, October seventeenth, eight am, we checked in

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the office and found the message waiting for us. What

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is it Joe the druggist's son, Harold Bartlett? What about

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farn him in an alley three o'clock this morning? What

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slugged and eaten? Late that afternoon, Ben and I received

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permission from the doctors to visit briefly with our witness,

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seventeen year old Harold Bartlett. His injuries were painful, but

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not critical. The beating he'd received was nothing less than brutal.

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His left forearm had been broken, and he'd been beaten

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viciously about the face and chest. He told us that

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he was on his way home from a neighborhood movie

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just before midnight when two men jumped him from behind

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on a deserted street.

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Speaker 8: I drove around some maybe five or ten minutes. It

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must about at least three minutes in.

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Speaker 4: The car, And why do you say that?

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Speaker 8: There were two men in the back sat with me.

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Somebody else had to be doing the driving, and it

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had to be a sedan in a club coup.

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Speaker 6: I guess.

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Speaker 8: So after he drove around a while, they stopped the

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car and then they began slugging me. Didn't say a

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word the whole time, just started slugging me. I asked

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him why I just kept slugging me. See, at first,

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I think they were hit me with their fists. I

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felt like something to lock it a lot harder, a

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piece of iron or metal or something. That's when I

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grabbed the cloth off of my face and I started

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to holler what happened?

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Speaker 4: Then?

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Speaker 8: Ah, yes, nobody heard me. Nobody came anyway. One of

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the men swore at me and grabbed my arm hit

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it with something. Sure, Sure they didn't say anything to

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you all this time, Just before they pushed me out

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of the car. It seemed like I was at that

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car for hours.

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Speaker 4: When they started to talk to you, Harry, what they say.

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Speaker 8: I was about that robbery my father and we saw

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the one you talked to us about last week.

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Speaker 4: What they say about it?

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Speaker 8: I said, maybe this will help you keep your mouth shut,

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stay out of the people's business. I said that a

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couple of times. I said a lot more. It happened

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to Dad and me if we went to the police,

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if we were witnesses at that trial.

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Speaker 4: Do you remember if some men called each other by name?

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Speaker 6: No, I don't.

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Speaker 8: I don't remember anyway.

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Speaker 4: Well, Son, you remember when we talked to you and

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your father last week. We told you to say nothing

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about the case to anyone.

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Speaker 6: I remember. I guess it's my fault.

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Speaker 4: Well, did you tell other people that you were a

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witness in the case. Did you mention it in public?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 4: I did.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I didn't think it was that important. I guess

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I talked about it quite a bit. I'm sorry. It's

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my fault, all right.

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Speaker 5: All right, Harry, if you remembered from now on, it'll

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save a lot more drum.

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Speaker 8: I remember, Sergeant, those two men last night scarving for

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a while. I guess most of us talk. Huh, how

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do you mean? So they never warned me about staying

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away from the cops that said they killed me and

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my dad. If we were witnesses, they were probably just

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trying to scare us.

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Speaker 6: They were fooling you know.

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Speaker 4: You had a sample last night, so yeah, where are

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they fooling? After we left Harry Bartlet, we went back

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to the office and arranged for a twenty four hour

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guard to be assigned to the teenage boy and his father.

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A thorough investigation of the attack on the boy failed

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to turn up any leads. On the surface, the two

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robbery suspects, Carter and Quincy were not involved. During the

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week that followed, we heard of no further threats or attacks,

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either on the victim, Lewis Butler, or the witnesses involved

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in the case. Ben and I worked with Deputy District

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Attorney Henderson preparing the case against the two suspects. Two

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days before the trial opened in Superior Court, we got

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an urgent call. Yeah I know, but how did it happen?

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Speaker 5: Mm hmm, yeah, all right, Tom'm saying, what's the trouble?

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Speaker 4: Couldn't be worse? No victim? What do you mean, mister

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and missus Butler and disappeared.

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Speaker 3: You are listening to dragnet from beginning to end? Is

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the authentic story of your police force in action.

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Speaker 4: Tuesday, November fifth, nine am the trial of robbery suspects

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Marvin Carter and Ralph quincy opened in Superior Court, Department

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eighty eight. The complaining witness, Lewis Butler, failed to appear

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for two solid days. We'd been busy checking all of

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the Butler's friends and relatives in the city. They couldn't help.

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Each time the Butlers had left their residence, they'd been

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under surveillance. We'd had an understanding with them that in

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the event that they were in their automobile and for

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some reason the officers assigned to them lost them in traffic,

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the Butlers would immediately return to their home. On the

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night of November three, under the pretext of going to

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a neighborhood theater, the Butler's made a right hand turn

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from a left hand lane of traffic, so it became

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obvious that they were trying to elude the officers following them.

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A check was made at their home as pre arranged,

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and they failed to return. When they failed to appear

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for the trial, a bench warrant was issued by Superior

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Court for the missing couple. Deputy District Attorney Henderson asked

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the court to grant a delay in order to find

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the Butler's. It was granted. In the meantime, we'd gotten

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out a broadcast and an APB Missing Persons detail helped

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out in the search. Still no sign. Tuesday, November twelfth,

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eleven am Deputy da Henderson phoned us from the Hall

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of Justice. When was that Fred?

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Speaker 6: Is that right?

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Speaker 7: Hey?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 5: Thanks a lot, What do you have to say? The

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attorney for Carter and Quincy asked the court for dismissal.

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Speaker 6: No complaining witness. Well the judge rule on it hid.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, case dismissed. No matter how guilty the two men

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might have seemed. There was nothing further anyone could do

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without a complaining witness. Our case was finished. The two suspects,

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Carter and Quincy, were released from custody in a few days.

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Quincy left town for the East. Carter remained in the city.

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The search for mister and Missus Butler went on, no

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sign of either one of them. December came, and then

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the Christmas holidays New Years. On January sixteenth, Louis Butler

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suddenly reappeared back in town and surrendered on the bench warrant.

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They explained to the judge that because of the numerous

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threats on their lives just before the trial, they were

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afraid to appear, and that they left the state without

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telling anyone. The judge gave them a lecture in a

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warning and dismissed charges. Another month passed February and then March.

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On April second, we got word from Denver, Colorado, that

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one of our former robbery suspects, Ralph Quincy, had shot

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and killed a twenty four year old policeman while attempting

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a robbery in that city. Quincy was tried and convicted

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of murder and received a life term. In the meantime,

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we'd heard little or nothing about the other former robbery suspect,

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Marvin Carter. Another two months passed. Spring months wore on

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into summer. Monday, July eighth, eight am.

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Speaker 6: Friday, Romera.

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Speaker 4: See you a minute, yea skipper, you want to sit down?

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Speaker 6: You got something before? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: The hold up victim man, but the name of Sheridan

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came in late last night. Filed this crime report here

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ever looked thanks, So let's see, Joe. You can notice

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that it happened in the same area where we had

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that ration hold ups last fall. I see victim robbed

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and beaten suspects. He used the same approach, same mo

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followed it right down the line.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, victim warned not to contact police, bodily harm threatened

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if victim did so. How about the descriptions of the

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hold up the man here? The victim pretty sure about them.

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Speaker 5: Gaffney handled a report. The victim said he got a

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good look at one of the thieves. Gaffney gave him

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a bunch of mugshots to look at. Yeah, he's the

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one he picked out of the line.

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Speaker 4: Oh thanks, I have a look Jill Marvin Carter. As

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soon as the robbery report had come in, an immediate

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check had been made of Marvin Carter's last known address,

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an apartment in the West Peico district. The landlord revealed

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that the suspect had moved at least two months before.

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We got out a broadcast and an APB on him.

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Together with Sergeants Gonzales and Henry Ben and I started

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on a systematic check of all of Carter's known friends,

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relative and associates. After that, we started on the places

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he was known to frequent hotels, bars, restaurants. No luck.

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Two weeks went by, there were no further reports of

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robberies where the m of the criminal matched.

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Speaker 6: That of Carter's.

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Speaker 4: Tuesday, July twenty sixth, two PM, we got a call

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from one of our informants, Bertie Simmons, who told us

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that he might have some information for us. He said

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it concerned Marvin Carter. He told us he'd meet us

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at MacArthur Park on the sixth Street side at two

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thirty pm. Two fifty pm.

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Speaker 9: You'll have to excuse me. Sorry, I'm late. I have

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to move from that other place. Things haven't been going

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to a good for me.

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Speaker 4: That's all right, Bertie. What's the matter? No luck with

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the horses, Yeah, a lot of luck.

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Speaker 7: It's all bad.

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Speaker 9: If it's a pig in the race, I have to

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bet on him every time, getting so I can't even

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pick them to show anymore.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what else is new with you, Bertie.

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Speaker 9: I'm still looking, but down around some of the joints

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south May now I meet it, keeping the near to

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the ground. Want to smoke, Yeah, thanks, don't matter if

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I do you.

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Speaker 4: Like for you?

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Speaker 7: Hm?

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Speaker 9: What have you heard, Bertie? Anything in the layout that

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Marvin Carter? You're still looking for a man't you?

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Speaker 4: That's right, any Rember?

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Speaker 7: I heard it.

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Speaker 9: Last night having a beer downtown. I knew you fellas

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were in a little bind on a thing. I always

475
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like to help you when you're in a bind. Well,

476
00:22:29,319 --> 00:22:32,160
what'd you hear Burt Kitter's still in town hiding out?

477
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,160
Like I say, I always like to help you out

478
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when you need it. I know what it is to

479
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be in a bind. That's when you appreciate help most.

480
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I'm kind of in a bind right now, little short.

481
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Speaker 4: You know, couple of dollars Burke, that's all I have

482
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on me. WI might help you out at me?

483
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Speaker 9: Saved my life, sergeant, tell you the truth. I didn't

484
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know where dinner was coming from tonight, No need telling you.

485
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Speaker 7: I appreciate it.

486
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Speaker 9: What was this you heard about? Carter still in town?

487
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It's a place down by Venice to the beach. Kyle

488
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has been seting there once twice lately. It's a little seafook, joint,

489
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beer and clams down by the beach.

490
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Speaker 4: Well, now is that somebody's story or is it the

491
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real thing?

492
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Speaker 7: The real thing? So I don't you know me better

493
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than that? No phony leads from me?

494
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Speaker 4: Where's Kurt is supposed to be staying down there?

495
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Speaker 6: You know?

496
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Speaker 7: Well I do, and I don't. I guess what do

497
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you mean? This move to? Told me about Kyler last night?

498
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Speaker 9: He didn't know the address, but he described the place

499
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God is supposed to be hiding out, and I know

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the joint.

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Speaker 4: He mean, But you don't know the address.

502
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Speaker 9: No, but I can point out the place he means.

503
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It's a shack.

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Speaker 4: Right along the speedway down there, down by the beach.

505
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Speaker 7: I want to run down there with us, now, sure

506
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I've pointed out for you.

507
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Speaker 9: I'm not going near it, though, Why do you say that?

508
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I don't want to mix with it. That's all I

509
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got the wood? What do you mean, Kyla won't be

510
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an easy one to take? How do you know he's

511
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got a gun?

512
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Speaker 4: Two fifty five pm, along with our informant Bertie Simmons,

513
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Ben and I drove down to the beach town of Venice.

514
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Bertie pointed out of brown wooden frame cottage where Carter

515
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was supposed to be hiding out. While Bertie waited in

516
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the car, Ben and I checked it out. Was nobody

517
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at home, but there was plenty of evidence inside the

518
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cottage that Carter was living there. I went back down

519
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the street to.

520
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Speaker 6: Where we parked our car.

521
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Speaker 4: I kept an eye on the cottage while Ben got

522
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to a phone to call the office.

523
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Speaker 7: Pretty down here, I saga.

524
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a nice day.

525
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Speaker 9: I don't get out in the air, and I think

526
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that's my trouble. Some of this good ocean there makes

527
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you feel like a million.

528
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

529
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Speaker 9: Did you notice the place where your partner went to phone?

530
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Down the street there?

531
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Speaker 6: Yeah?

532
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Speaker 4: What about it?

533
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Speaker 7: You see the.

534
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Speaker 9: Sign beer and clam right over the door, Beer and clams. Yeah,

535
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best in the city. I know, I've been there. Only great,

536
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good beer for a dime, fresh clams. Nothing better. You

537
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,440
like clams?

538
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're all right once in a while.

539
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Speaker 7: What am I going to do? So if you two

540
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have to wait here all night.

541
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Speaker 4: Well we'll get you back to town Burg and figure

542
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out something for you.

543
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Speaker 5: Hi, Ben, did you get a hold of Captain Yeah,

544
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Marvin Carter was picked up downtown twenty minutes ago.

545
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,519
Speaker 4: What yeah, driving a rended car. Traffic un picked him up. Well,

546
00:25:17,519 --> 00:25:20,480
they tab him on his description. Not at first. The

547
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,599
reason they noticed him was because he was double parked

548
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on a busy street and they pulled him over and

549
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got a better look at him. I did any trouble with.

550
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Speaker 6: Him, not at all.

551
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Speaker 4: Got him booked at Maine jail. Say that's sure too bad,

552
00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:33,759
And what do you mean by in short case. Isn't

553
00:25:33,759 --> 00:25:36,160
it how long your fellaw's been working on her? M

554
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,759
just about a year, hon Joe, Yeah, just about it.

555
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Speaker 9: Coming all this way from nothing, you're ready to make

556
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the pinch and somebody else does it for you must

557
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,680
be kind of disappointing.

558
00:25:45,759 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 7: Huh, all that time? All that?

559
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Speaker 6: What?

560
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Speaker 4: Well, Carter's in jail, that's the main thing. I guess

561
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we better drive back in ib.

562
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Speaker 9: Yeah, say just a minute, sidgeant, no use coming all

563
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this way for nothing.

564
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Speaker 7: One if you do me a favor.

565
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Speaker 9: What's that burg that's signed down the street white the

566
00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:06,000
blue and white signed Barren Clam. What if you could

567
00:26:06,079 --> 00:26:11,720
drop me off right in front Barren Clam? Oh yeah, Berna, sure,

568
00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:14,359
and nice of you. Just like I was saying, what's said,

569
00:26:14,759 --> 00:26:16,200
no use coming all this way from that?

570
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Speaker 2: The story you have just heard was true, only the

571
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names were changed to protect the innocent.

572
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Speaker 3: On October twenty ninth, trial was held in Superior Court,

573
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Department eighty six, City and County of Los Angeles, State

574
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of California. In a moment the results of that trial,

575
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Marvin Lawrence Carter was tried and convicted on several counts

576
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of first degree robbery and was sentenced to the State Penitentiary,

577
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,720
where he is now serving his term. First degree robbery

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is punishable by imprisonment from five years to life.

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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Miss Lyle Rooks, editor of Radio Television.

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Speaker 10: Mirror, the readers of Radio Television Mirror have chosen Dragnet

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the favorite program of its type for nineteen fifty. I

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am privileged to present the citation to you on behalf

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of the editors and readers of Radio Television Mirror throughout

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the nation.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Miss Rooks.

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Speaker 3: You have just heard Dragnet. A series of authentic cases

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from official files. Technical advice comes from the Office of

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Chief of Police W. H. Parker, Los Angeles, Police of Parker.

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Speaker 5: Stay tuned for Counterspy next over many NBC stations.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Back. This is a case where the show tells

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a story that teaches a lesson without connecting the Oh

592
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,400
it's in a direct way, but it has to be

593
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said that the refusal of the first complainant to appear

594
00:28:05,839 --> 00:28:09,680
at trial led to the death of the policeman in Colorado.

595
00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:13,680
It brings home the weight a failing to follow through

596
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on your responsibility and goes back to what they were

597
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,440
trying to tell him earlier that the decision to report

598
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the crime wasn't just about him. On a latter note,

599
00:28:24,839 --> 00:28:27,599
I love Bertie Simmons. He has to be one of

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my all time favorite Herb Butterfield characters. I didn't make

601
00:28:31,759 --> 00:28:35,119
the connection that it was Butterfield in the past, but

602
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,519
I recognize it now and it's so different than nearly

603
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,000
every other character I've heard him do. Though, poor Joe

604
00:28:42,079 --> 00:28:44,400
had to give away his last couple bucks for an

605
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,319
unnecessary tip that didn't help them solve the case. Though

606
00:28:47,359 --> 00:28:51,039
on the bright side, Bertie gets beers and clams, so

607
00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:55,200
I guess good for him. It's also worth noting that

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this is one of those episodes where the title israe is.

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That's why we designated it. If your look up at

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the title, it says the Big Tried nineteen fifty one,

611
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because there's another one, and I believe nineteen fifty three,

612
00:29:11,359 --> 00:29:17,000
same title, entirely different in terms of its plot. Well,

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we turn now to listener comments and feedback, and we

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start with a note from Eddie, who writes, Steer Adam,

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00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:26,640
I've been listening to your Dragnet podcast for about two

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weeks now. I've always loved Dragnet before and listening to

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them again about two or three years ago, I got

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the main theme of each but listening to your analysis closer,

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I enjoy the show with a new perspective, and with

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00:29:43,519 --> 00:29:47,440
other shows, your thoughts of the end are interesting and informative.

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I look forward almost daily. Thank you Eddie, well, thank

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00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,920
you so much, Eddie, And there's something to be said

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for it, and your note kind of gives me some

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00:29:57,079 --> 00:30:02,079
insight into some of my own viewing habits, because sometimes

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I find myself watching YouTube reactors reacting to movies that

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00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:13,359
I've already seen or TV shows. It's something that I enjoy.

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I can't do a ton of it, don't have a

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ton of time for that, but I struggle to put

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into words, but I think that it's sort of the

630
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same thing. You get a new perspective on the program

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that you know, and therefore you kind of experience it

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00:30:29,319 --> 00:30:31,960
in a different way. I find myself saying, oh, well,

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how is she going to react to It's a wonderful life,

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and it is the power of getting new perspective, and

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also sometimes it's just getting the joy of being able

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to vi curiously experience something again for the first time

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that you know quite well. I appreciate your insight, Aeddie.

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And then I got a postcard from the webs. No

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relation to Jack, I assume, but this is a lovely

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00:31:01,599 --> 00:31:08,680
postcard from the Carlsbad Caverns National Park over in New Mexico,

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and the postcard raads had and my dad and I

642
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,480
have been driving from Georgia to Washington State. On the way,

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we've been listening to your podcast from the start. Saw

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on our stop you could mail from the caverns themselves.

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Hope you're doing well well. Thank you so much, Hope

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you had a wonderful trip, and I appreciate you thinking

647
00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:33,119
of me to send me a card while you're out

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00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,480
on your travels. And again I did post a picture

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on Instagram. I'll have to scroll through some audiograms, but

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it's there. We're at instagram dot com slash Great Detectives.

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And then we have a comment on Spotify regarding the

652
00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:53,599
episode The Big Trunk. Uh listener rights Lol. They need

653
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to know why he jumped before they can do an investigation.

654
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I feel like the investoration would be what uncovered that,

655
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And honestly, when I first read it, I was confused

656
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:12,559
since that's not a main plot of the episode. But listening,

657
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,359
I recalled, I think that was the stuff they were

658
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:21,319
talking about at the beginning, and indeed, the opening narration

659
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as Friday saying that they needed to know who he

660
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was and why he jumped before they could proceed with

661
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,240
the investigation. And I think the listener is right, that

662
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:39,039
is a very odd statement to make, and it's easy

663
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to overlook because it's just kind of a throwaway before

664
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they got put onto the case of the retired performer

665
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who got killed by a guy because they thought she

666
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had valuables in her trunk. And it feels like that

667
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got written because they're like, Okay, Friday has to say

668
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,000
something since they don't have the case at the beginning,

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so let's just give Friday some words to say. Because

670
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it doesn't make sense because, as the listener said, an

671
00:33:12,039 --> 00:33:17,960
investigation would be what you would do to determine who

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00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,599
he was and why he jumped. Not only that, but

673
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:29,720
if you had this jumper and you knew why he

674
00:33:29,759 --> 00:33:33,759
had jumped, and you knew who he was, what else

675
00:33:33,839 --> 00:33:37,480
exactly do you have to investigate. It's not like some

676
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,359
complex robbery case where you know, you lift a toolprint

677
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and then you have to go and do searches and

678
00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:50,880
figure out what the exact tool was that made the mark.

679
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,000
I mean, once the two facts that Friday says that

680
00:33:55,279 --> 00:34:01,519
you need before the investigation can proceed are obtained, there

681
00:34:01,599 --> 00:34:04,920
is nothing really left to investigate. Now there might be

682
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:10,400
some police nomenclacier that we're missing here, some sort of

683
00:34:10,519 --> 00:34:14,679
separation between investigations. So maybe this isn't quite as silly

684
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,719
as it sounds. And I mean, I would tend to

685
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,760
give benefit of the doubt to Dragnet, but if anyone

686
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,280
is an expert on why he would say that, because

687
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,320
it's such a weird thing to say. It's so weird

688
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:33,239
too on Dragnet because it's generally very well written, which

689
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,519
I guess is the reason why I just tended to overlook. Okay,

690
00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:41,239
wait a second, that actually kind of sounds like nonsense.

691
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,639
Good catch, and if anyone has any way to make

692
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:46,920
sense of it, I would really love to hear from you.

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All Right, Well, now it's time to think our Patreon

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Speaker 11: Have I the pleasure of speaking with mister Michael.

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Speaker 2: Wedding And that's your idea of pleasure? Who is this?

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Speaker 4: It's George Venezuelo's George Venezuelas.

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Speaker 11: Yes, your embassy suggested I get.

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Speaker 4: In touch with you, and what can I do for you?

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Speaker 11: I believe the shoe is on the other foot. I'd

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like to do something for you. You're aware that the

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Communist Party is outlawed in Greece. Yes, Well, suppose I

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told you that the number one man is right here

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in Athens. What would you say to that?

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Speaker 2: Well, the first thing I'd say is, what's his name,

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I take it. Then you're interested, interested as hardly the word.

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Speaker 11: Well, I live at fourteen Tracopas Traycopas.

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Speaker 2: That's the street right near the monument to Byron, isn't it.

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Speaker 11: That's the one. Can I expect you at ten?

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't want to make it earlier.

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Speaker 11: Try to be patient, mister wedding. After all, you chaps

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have been looking for this fellow for years. A few

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hours more or less shouldn't matter.

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Speaker 1: I hope you'll be with us then in the meantime.

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