Speaker 1: Haters is your marketing team. Let them work. Let me
Speaker 1: explain something to you. You know what haters do. They
Speaker 1: tell the world about you. They're free marketing. And what
Speaker 1: they do. If you really to shut out here and
Speaker 1: you ain't playing no games, and I'm talking about you
Speaker 1: kicking that out here. When a hater tells somebody about
Speaker 1: you and they go look you up and do something,
Speaker 1: you got new supporters. They introduce new people to you
Speaker 1: because they always talking about you, so they don't even matter.
Speaker 1: Like he said, booze, do not block no shots. Yelling
Speaker 1: and hecting, do not block no shots. They gonna have
Speaker 1: you leaving the game telling somebody how you hate me
Speaker 1: so much or whatever's going on. Cool to me, this
Speaker 1: is what we got to understand. Everything you want is
Speaker 1: out here. See to me, the world is one big library,
Speaker 1: and everybody's a book. You got books on coding, you
Speaker 1: got books on mechanics, you got books on culinary you
Speaker 1: got comedic books, you got street novels, you got crime men, annuals.
Speaker 1: Read your books wisely, choose them, wisely watch what books
Speaker 1: you read. But every human being on here got a journey,
Speaker 1: and they know something that you might don't know. So
Speaker 1: it's like everything is out here. But what made it
Speaker 1: even more possible is that that world. That's the library.
Speaker 1: I got it in my pocket and the phone. You
Speaker 1: got to reevaluate yourself and you got to have a
Speaker 1: real conversation with self. Everything is in here. Everything you
Speaker 1: need to know is inside of you, and you got
Speaker 1: to get to know you sometimes. You got to you
Speaker 1: got to remove yourself from people, places and things that's
Speaker 1: not just not going to allow you to embrace the
Speaker 1: reality and your individualism of who you are. And that's
Speaker 1: that's what's important. That's the most important ever and it's
Speaker 1: already in you. People tell me, how why is you
Speaker 1: acting me?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: You know your journey, you know what's holding you back.
Speaker 1: You know the horrors of your life, you know the
Speaker 1: joys of your life. You know who your parents was,
Speaker 1: the house you broke, grew up in, what affected you.
Speaker 1: Whereas though you feel as though you stop growing, you
Speaker 1: stop living, you stop dreaming. Moment, when was that? Go
Speaker 1: back and deal with that, figure it out, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. If you need a therapist, do that whatever.
Speaker 1: But you got to have a conversation with self about
Speaker 1: the reality of your journey and Once you connect with that,
Speaker 1: it's a wrap.
Speaker 2: All things you put in your mind of why you
Speaker 2: can't win or why you can't do this. Oh they racist,
Speaker 2: Oh this, Oh they hating. That's all bullsh make it happen.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. Every key to every closed
Speaker 2: door on this planet is right here in your mind.
Speaker 2: All you got to do is believe in yourself and
Speaker 2: stop bissing, stop making excuses.
Speaker 1: I don't have Tom. Tom is not waiting for me.
Speaker 1: Tom is not my friend. Tom don't like nobody. Tom
Speaker 1: hate all of us. Tom is trying to stay awake
Speaker 1: from us. You think I'm a waste the rest of
Speaker 1: the time that I got to be operating out here
Speaker 1: crying and complain it, blaming somebody. No, you know how
Speaker 1: much time and energy people spend the average parison, and
Speaker 1: I'm just doing the ballpark figure. They spend years and years,
Speaker 1: maybe a decade, complaining the wining, and still nothing change.
Speaker 1: I could be using that time to change my life.
Speaker 1: I could be using that time and to brace the
Speaker 1: reality of life and the reality that I'd done to
Speaker 1: put myself. I paid for my ticket, I got on
Speaker 1: the train. It was many stops that came. I didn't
Speaker 1: get off at them stops. I went to the final
Speaker 1: destination of the bulls that I was living in. I
Speaker 1: enjoyed being that I was married to the streets in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed that dumb. So I had to okay, I
Speaker 1: went through the process of that dumb. I grew up.
Speaker 1: I evolved from that now and it's time to live now.
Speaker 1: It's time to just be out here on the journey
Speaker 1: through life, experiencing new things, new ideas, exposure. And that's
Speaker 1: what I realized. I wasn't a lot of us don't
Speaker 1: expose ourselves to new things, new ideas. We're not open
Speaker 1: open the different, open to change. And that's what helped me.
Speaker 1: I became open to all the ars. And so I'm like, Okay, Damn,
Speaker 1: that's different. Let me try that. Damn listen. Oh let
Speaker 1: me jump out of a plane. Damn, let me do
Speaker 1: this like some real store, and you know, and like,
Speaker 1: while I'm here, I'm living this shit out because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you some real time, when I die, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a party in that graveyard, because my tombstone
Speaker 1: is gonna be playing music and bouncing all around the graveyard.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be laying there because that dash that's
Speaker 1: between the year I was born in the year I die,
Speaker 1: that is gonna be break dancing off that tombstone because
Speaker 1: I'm leaving all that here. I'm leaving it here. So
Speaker 1: it's like, why the should I CoA play?
Speaker 2: I heard you say once that you only die once,
Speaker 2: but you live every day.
Speaker 1: I live every day. You see what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: think about that that day that you die once. See
Speaker 1: a lot of times people put living as just one
Speaker 1: big thing. It's not no one big thing. It's things.
Speaker 1: It's days. Every day you're doing something different. Think about this.
Speaker 1: Fifty something months ago, I was sitting in the cell
Speaker 1: waiting to go to child standing for count. Now I'm
Speaker 1: in the Hollywood Hills with you. Think about that. I
Speaker 1: walk right out of here and I look at the whole,
Speaker 1: the whole LA. I can see every tired part of LA.
Speaker 1: Every movie I've ever seen, everything I've ever seen, is
Speaker 1: right down in there. Think about this, man, I'm out
Speaker 1: here doing what I want to do. You know, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we go from prison to close the multi
Speaker 1: million dollar deals and doing speaking all over the Come on, man,
Speaker 1: you know why because I wasn't. I wasn't gonna be
Speaker 1: a victim of self. See, a lot of people be
Speaker 1: victim myself. This victimization is self victimization. Ooh by me,
Speaker 1: Oh this is happening. Why this is new to me? Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm black. Oh, I'm missed. I live in the ghetto.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm from deep in the ghetto. I come
Speaker 1: from the ghetto, Tom, But I'm out here making it happen.
Speaker 1: And I got to show these young kids in the
Speaker 1: inner cities of America or kids period, not just the kids,
Speaker 1: but I focus meaning on them because they still sponge,
Speaker 1: They're still impressionable, They're still trying to figure out life,
Speaker 1: and like a lot of times adults, they be locked
Speaker 1: in already on what they want to do. They just
Speaker 1: know how to disguise the bulls that they claim that
Speaker 1: they want to let go of. They just know how
Speaker 1: to put a different uniform on it. Kids, they're growing up,
Speaker 1: they're impressionable, and they imagination is everything, and that's that's
Speaker 1: something that's every important in my journey. My imagination.
Speaker 2: Now prison breaks most of the people that it touches, yes,
Speaker 2: but the people that survive again, the same thing, never
Speaker 2: going back, they build up this energy and that escape
Speaker 2: velocity is crazy. Part of the reason when I first
Speaker 2: started researching you, I was like, Okay, he got a
Speaker 2: twenty year sentence, but there's no way he did twenty years.
Speaker 2: And the reason I couldn't reconcile it in my mind
Speaker 2: that you'd actually served twenty years is you were so positive, energetic, enthusiastic,
Speaker 2: focused on all the things you were going to make.
Speaker 2: There was no sense of loss or mourning. It was
Speaker 2: just like, twenty years is a long time, man.
Speaker 1: No. But see, you got to understand this. I wasn't
Speaker 1: in jail. I was in Yale. I wasn't in prison.
Speaker 1: I was in Priston. I wasn't in the state Pen.
Speaker 1: I was in Penn State. How do you think like that?
Speaker 1: Because you know why I took the time, and I say, okay,
Speaker 1: this is time for me to, you know, educate myself.
Speaker 1: And one of my homies said, man, why we are
Speaker 1: you to have these money in jail? I said, yo, Man,
Speaker 1: I know why I'm here. I'm not here. I'm not innocent.
Speaker 1: It's sorry to anybody else. I know why I'm here.
Speaker 1: I know what God done. I know why I'm here.
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna be mad. I gotta listen. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to I can see the end of the show.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the end. I'm chasing the end of
Speaker 1: the tunnel, and when I get there, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: on point. So it was like, but when we talk
Speaker 1: about imagination, let me tell you something. As a kid,
Speaker 1: your imagination be endless. Oh I want to fly, I
Speaker 1: want to do this. I'm telling an unbelievable imagination. Imagination
Speaker 1: is destroyed by family members, others. People kill ideas. You
Speaker 1: got idea killers out here. A lot of times these
Speaker 1: kids they can't grow unto where they want to grow
Speaker 1: in because they live in environments where their ideas is
Speaker 1: beat up and whereastoor they got to suffocate their ideas
Speaker 1: and somehow they kill they ideas and they bury the
Speaker 1: ideas because they don't want to get laughed at it.
Speaker 1: They're ashamed of it. So by me going to prison
Speaker 1: from seventeen to thirty seven, will you know experience life lived?
Speaker 1: Experience life will destroy your imagination? By me going to
Speaker 1: prison with it, did is it froze the imagination that
Speaker 1: I had. So when I'm in prison the whole time,
Speaker 1: I'm not living the life that most people be living
Speaker 1: and beating them down and wearing them down and becoming
Speaker 1: jaded and getting the ass kicked by life. So when
Speaker 1: I come out thirty seven, I'm still in there reading
Speaker 1: all type of sh And then when there was two
Speaker 1: thousand and you know, twenty and thirteen, I got my
Speaker 1: hands on the eyepod touch in a wireless hot spot
Speaker 1: in jail. And when I got that hid, I came alive.
Speaker 1: That's when I came alive. When I seen technology and
Speaker 1: see the potential. I seen the potential and I realized, Okay,
Speaker 1: these people don't understand what's going on. I realized the
Speaker 1: stars they couldn't see what you say humans, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at it, and I'm looking at the people from my environment.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, okay, when did your dreams die? What
Speaker 1: happened to your life? Where you just stop and then
Speaker 1: snatched something out of you and you just start going
Speaker 1: into a different place, You start eating a bunch of shit. Oh,
Speaker 1: lay in there, I don't want to all this dumb
Speaker 1: sh When did that happen? When did your dream like?
Speaker 1: Cause cause you know, out here a lot of times
Speaker 1: you got idea killers out here and sometimes the idea
Speaker 1: killers and the dream killers. Be yourself. It don't be
Speaker 1: nobody else. See, nobody can make you do something. Nobody
Speaker 1: if they don't have no gun to you like that.
Speaker 1: You're only doing this because you want to do it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you got to figure out.
Speaker 1: You can have ideas, you can listen to me, you
Speaker 1: can listen to this person that person, but at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, you got to listen to self
Speaker 1: because you got to get up and figure it out
Speaker 1: every day while you're here. And you can't waste your time.
Speaker 1: If you waste your time, you to trouble. Because guess what,
Speaker 1: I'm not wasting mind. I love the idea of taking
Speaker 1: a piece of paper, sitting down in a notebook, writing
Speaker 1: something down, and saying I'm gonna start this. I love
Speaker 1: to create new