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<v Speaker 1>Nine fifty five KRCD Talk station, and that time of

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<v Speaker 1>the week we get to hear from retired Lieutenant Colonel

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Davis doing the Daniel Davis Deep Dive. You can

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<v Speaker 1>find that podcast online and see what Daniel talks about

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the week. Welcome back, my friend. It's always a

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<v Speaker 1>real pleasure having on my program.

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<v Speaker 2>Always look forward to this every week. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's start with Ukraine, because I know we can

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Israel Goza too, and maybe we'll get to that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've seen a couple of articles. Man, the situation

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<v Speaker 1>in Ukraine is getting just outright desperate. A couple of

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<v Speaker 1>fun facts. Average Ukrainian soldiers already forty or older. They

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<v Speaker 1>have a pre war population of forty one million. It's

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<v Speaker 1>now down to between twenty eight and thirty million. Six

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<v Speaker 1>and a half million Ukrainians have fled the country. There

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<v Speaker 1>are millions under Russian occupation rule, so they're not accessible.

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<v Speaker 1>They put out a a A. Zelensky signed a law

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<v Speaker 1>now allowing Ukrainians over the age of sixty to join

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<v Speaker 1>the military and non combat roles to free up I

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<v Speaker 1>guess those non combat younger people to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>front lines. They can't get anybody to sign up anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>They're looking for signing bonuses. Only twelve percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>new recruits had joined voluntarily last year. The rest were conscripted.

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing protests in the street because viral videos are

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<v Speaker 1>going around with these Ukrainian recruit guys just grabbing people

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<v Speaker 1>off the streets and send them off the military service.

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<v Speaker 1>This situation sounds desperate, Daniel, I mean, am I missing

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<v Speaker 1>something on this or have I got this right?

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<v Speaker 4>The only thing you're missing is that there was an

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<v Speaker 4>additional report that I saw yesterday where one of the

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<v Speaker 4>members of the Ukrainian Parliament was complaining, saying, listen, we

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<v Speaker 4>are suffering so many casualties, and we are losing over

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<v Speaker 4>one thousand people per day killed and wounded, and this

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<v Speaker 4>is the big bombshells, he said, And over five hundred

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<v Speaker 4>per day are abandoning the fight, going a wall, just leaving,

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<v Speaker 4>just deserting their units.

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<v Speaker 2>She goes. We cannot sustain this.

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<v Speaker 4>She goes, we may literally be running out of people

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<v Speaker 4>before the end of the year and have no army.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, she was really sounded the alarm. But then,

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<v Speaker 4>of course you'd never know that from listening to Zelensky,

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<v Speaker 4>because he keeps just talking like there's no problem here

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<v Speaker 4>and we're just going to keep fighting and we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to reject every opportunity for a diplomatic outcome.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, there's a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and he's pleading the European Union to give money

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<v Speaker 1>to them so they can afford to pay the soldiers more.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess as a dangling carrot or something. But that

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<v Speaker 1>made me pivot over the economic impact that this war

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<v Speaker 1>has had on the country itself. Is anybody doing work,

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<v Speaker 1>Is anybody you know performing labor that results in taxpayer

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<v Speaker 1>dollars going into support the Ukrainian government for whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>needs to do. I mean, with that many people gone

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<v Speaker 1>and the country being war torn, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>people are even living their lives at this point, Daniel Davis, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And a.

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<v Speaker 4>Lot of that money doesn't just go for soldiers that

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<v Speaker 4>they're requesting, right, It goes to it just to pay

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<v Speaker 4>civil servants to keep the government functioning, because exactly what

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<v Speaker 4>you said, they don't have the tax receipts to just

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<v Speaker 4>fund the normal operations of their government. So you're talking

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<v Speaker 4>millions upon millions of dollars every day just to keep

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<v Speaker 4>the government running. So they can't do that unless they

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<v Speaker 4>have a NonStop trough feeding in from Western Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>Western Europe is also struggling economic please, so I just

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<v Speaker 4>don't see how any of this is sustainable yet.

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<v Speaker 2>You have sudg just Elenski.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the Western leadership that just stays just myopically focused

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<v Speaker 4>on ex putting some kind of a strategic defeat on Russia.

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<v Speaker 2>Without the means to do so. And that's the irrational part.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just causing the Ukraine country to just continue to

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<v Speaker 4>be ground to dust.

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<v Speaker 1>Which I suppose feeds into Russia's position on this matter.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they don't have to move away from their position.

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<v Speaker 1>We've I mean, we sound like a broken record at

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<v Speaker 1>this juncture. Daniel Davis talking about this. Russia's position keeps

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<v Speaker 1>getting stronger the more the day's roll on. That just

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<v Speaker 1>means every day there's a thousand less Ukrainian soldiers on

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<v Speaker 1>the front line, or maybe fifteen hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But if this is a battle of attrition, Russia clearly

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<v Speaker 1>has the ball in its court. Why would they even

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<v Speaker 1>bother to negotiate? I mean, and what's with this deadline?

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<v Speaker 1>There's a ceasefire deadline on Friday. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know what that means.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, well, yeah, I mean what it means, and is

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<v Speaker 4>even more puzzling because President Trump, I think it was yesterday, ready,

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<v Speaker 4>the day before clarified.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, this deadline is firm.

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<v Speaker 4>It is this Friday, the eighth of August, and probably

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<v Speaker 4>there will be some sanctions put in. But then interestingly,

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<v Speaker 4>he adds, but it probably won't do any good. It

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<v Speaker 4>probably won't make them change their mind. And then one

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<v Speaker 4>has to wonder, Look, it's not just sanctions on Russia,

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<v Speaker 4>it's secondary sanctions on China, India, Brazil and several anyone

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<v Speaker 4>who does business with Russia in the the pedrocarbons area

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<v Speaker 4>for oil and gas, and that look, we're already having

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<v Speaker 4>huge trouble getting the normal deals signed with specially with

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<v Speaker 4>all three of those actually, and especially India that's the

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<v Speaker 4>biggest one, because China's already kind of antagonistic, but India's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of is pliable to be our friend or our ada.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. This is not gonna help us. So I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand where we're going with this.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that I mean, you suggest Trump's kind of back

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<v Speaker 1>into a corner along those lines. He doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>alienate India, and he is trying to get a better

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with China and so far as trade deals are concerned.

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<v Speaker 1>So this had throw a giant monkey wrench into the

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<v Speaker 1>whole process. I think you know the bluff has been

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<v Speaker 1>called here. It appears well, it does appear that. Unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 4>You say he's back into a corner, But he was

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<v Speaker 4>the one that made the corner, because he's the one

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<v Speaker 4>who added this or created this deadline. So I don't

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<v Speaker 4>really understand why he did that. Maybe he thought just

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<v Speaker 4>the threat of it would cause Russia to do something.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know why he initially did it, but now

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<v Speaker 4>he is himself acknowledging that it's unlikely, and I would

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<v Speaker 4>say impossible, not even unlikely. There's no chance, zero chance

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<v Speaker 4>that Russia would submit to what Trump wants, which would

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<v Speaker 4>only benefit the Ukraine side. They'll never do that, and

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<v Speaker 4>so the front line is going to continue to be

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<v Speaker 4>chewing up y Ukraine troops and Russia will not stop.

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<v Speaker 1>They clearly will not. Well, let us assume, for the

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<v Speaker 1>sake of discussion, you had a more rational, thoughtful, contemplative

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<v Speaker 1>leader in Ukraine, someone who was willing to acknowledge how

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<v Speaker 1>bad the situation is for them, someone who might be

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<v Speaker 1>willing to acknowledge some concessions to the Russians in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of some of the Russian dominated areas that they have

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<v Speaker 1>already taken over conceding a partial victory to Russia. That

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<v Speaker 1>is a possibility to resolve the broader conflict before Ukraine

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<v Speaker 1>gets completely rolled over, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's one of the things that the Russian side themselves

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<v Speaker 4>say that they are really frustrated about. That deal that

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<v Speaker 4>you said has been on the table offered from the

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<v Speaker 4>Russian side since June of last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not this past June.

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<v Speaker 4>They've been saying it over and over and they have

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<v Speaker 4>never deviated from that, and they're still saying the same things.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a draconian issue, there's no question about it. It's

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<v Speaker 4>an ugly deal for Ukraine, without question. But it's much better,

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<v Speaker 4>or maybe a better way to say it, it's much

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<v Speaker 4>less worse than the current situation where you're dying by

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<v Speaker 4>the large, by the bucket loads every day. Just imagine

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<v Speaker 4>how many people in Ukraine have been killed since June

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<v Speaker 4>of last summer, and how many could have been saved

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<v Speaker 4>if they had had the same deal and instead of

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<v Speaker 4>the worst one that they're gonna end up with. If

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<v Speaker 4>Russia just physically mows all the way to Kiev. That's

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<v Speaker 4>what that the woman said that the parliamentarian if nothing changes,

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<v Speaker 4>Russia could be at the gates of kiv by the

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<v Speaker 4>end of this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, well, any change, chances for an administration changed, there

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<v Speaker 1>a coup or something, I know, Marshal Osman declared, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the only reason is Lensky is still currently president.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you've got people protesting in the streets

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<v Speaker 1>over you know, snatching young men off the streets and

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<v Speaker 1>throwing them into the army against their will, if you

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<v Speaker 1>have people fleeing the country in order to avoid that,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds to me like the population of Ukraine might

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<v Speaker 1>choose a different direction in terms of leadership.

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<v Speaker 4>So far, there there is an increasing number that's doing that,

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<v Speaker 4>but so far the numbers of support for Zelensky are

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<v Speaker 4>still quite especially in the western parts where they don't

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<v Speaker 4>see the aspects of war. A lot of the people

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<v Speaker 4>in the eastern part where all the fighting and dying

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<v Speaker 4>and destroying is happening, which are large percentage of ethnic Russians.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually there's there are a lot worse Zelensky and the

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<v Speaker 4>other people in the other part of the country. So

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of the people uprising, there's there's doesn't appear

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<v Speaker 4>to be any in imminent danger, but there are rumors

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<v Speaker 4>that some of the other folks in Ukraine, so they

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<v Speaker 4>as all kind of the folks, other even possibly European people,

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<v Speaker 4>are tired of dealing with him, and there's some suggestion

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<v Speaker 4>that he consider stepping down, et cetera. But so far

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<v Speaker 4>those are all just reports, and you know, someone anonymous

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<v Speaker 4>is reporting, so we don't know how valid those are.

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<v Speaker 4>But Zelenski can't help but be pretty nervous these days.

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine. So I'm sorry we're at a time we

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<v Speaker 1>can't get to Gaza and Israel. Something suggests to me

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<v Speaker 1>that that topic will still be alive and well for

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<v Speaker 1>our conversation next Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel Davis Deep Dive.

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday at a thirty Here the fifty five Cars Morning Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay well, my friend, see you next week. Look forward

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