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Speaker 1: Nine fifty five KRCD Talk station, and that time of
Speaker 1: the week we get to hear from retired Lieutenant Colonel
Speaker 1: Daniel Davis doing the Daniel Davis Deep Dive. You can
Speaker 1: find that podcast online and see what Daniel talks about
Speaker 1: throughout the week. Welcome back, my friend. It's always a
Speaker 1: real pleasure having on my program.
Speaker 2: Always look forward to this every week. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: And let's start with Ukraine, because I know we can
Speaker 1: talk about Israel Goza too, and maybe we'll get to that.
Speaker 1: But I've seen a couple of articles. Man, the situation
Speaker 1: in Ukraine is getting just outright desperate. A couple of
Speaker 1: fun facts. Average Ukrainian soldiers already forty or older. They
Speaker 1: have a pre war population of forty one million. It's
Speaker 1: now down to between twenty eight and thirty million. Six
Speaker 1: and a half million Ukrainians have fled the country. There
Speaker 1: are millions under Russian occupation rule, so they're not accessible.
Speaker 1: They put out a a A. Zelensky signed a law
Speaker 1: now allowing Ukrainians over the age of sixty to join
Speaker 1: the military and non combat roles to free up I
Speaker 1: guess those non combat younger people to go to the
Speaker 1: front lines. They can't get anybody to sign up anymore.
Speaker 1: They're looking for signing bonuses. Only twelve percent of the
Speaker 1: new recruits had joined voluntarily last year. The rest were conscripted.
Speaker 1: They're doing protests in the street because viral videos are
Speaker 1: going around with these Ukrainian recruit guys just grabbing people
Speaker 1: off the streets and send them off the military service.
Speaker 1: This situation sounds desperate, Daniel, I mean, am I missing
Speaker 1: something on this or have I got this right?
Speaker 4: The only thing you're missing is that there was an
Speaker 4: additional report that I saw yesterday where one of the
Speaker 4: members of the Ukrainian Parliament was complaining, saying, listen, we
Speaker 4: are suffering so many casualties, and we are losing over
Speaker 4: one thousand people per day killed and wounded, and this
Speaker 4: is the big bombshells, he said, And over five hundred
Speaker 4: per day are abandoning the fight, going a wall, just leaving,
Speaker 4: just deserting their units.
Speaker 2: She goes. We cannot sustain this.
Speaker 4: She goes, we may literally be running out of people
Speaker 4: before the end of the year and have no army.
Speaker 4: I mean, she was really sounded the alarm. But then,
Speaker 4: of course you'd never know that from listening to Zelensky,
Speaker 4: because he keeps just talking like there's no problem here
Speaker 4: and we're just going to keep fighting and we're going
Speaker 4: to reject every opportunity for a diplomatic outcome.
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's a problem.
Speaker 1: Well, and he's pleading the European Union to give money
Speaker 1: to them so they can afford to pay the soldiers more.
Speaker 1: I guess as a dangling carrot or something. But that
Speaker 1: made me pivot over the economic impact that this war
Speaker 1: has had on the country itself. Is anybody doing work,
Speaker 1: Is anybody you know performing labor that results in taxpayer
Speaker 1: dollars going into support the Ukrainian government for whatever it
Speaker 1: needs to do. I mean, with that many people gone
Speaker 1: and the country being war torn, I don't know how
Speaker 1: people are even living their lives at this point, Daniel Davis, Right,
Speaker 1: And a.
Speaker 4: Lot of that money doesn't just go for soldiers that
Speaker 4: they're requesting, right, It goes to it just to pay
Speaker 4: civil servants to keep the government functioning, because exactly what
Speaker 4: you said, they don't have the tax receipts to just
Speaker 4: fund the normal operations of their government. So you're talking
Speaker 4: millions upon millions of dollars every day just to keep
Speaker 4: the government running. So they can't do that unless they
Speaker 4: have a NonStop trough feeding in from Western Europe.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 4: Western Europe is also struggling economic please, so I just
Speaker 4: don't see how any of this is sustainable yet.
Speaker 2: You have sudg just Elenski.
Speaker 4: It's the Western leadership that just stays just myopically focused
Speaker 4: on ex putting some kind of a strategic defeat on Russia.
Speaker 2: Without the means to do so. And that's the irrational part.
Speaker 4: That's just causing the Ukraine country to just continue to
Speaker 4: be ground to dust.
Speaker 1: Which I suppose feeds into Russia's position on this matter.
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't have to move away from their position.
Speaker 1: We've I mean, we sound like a broken record at
Speaker 1: this juncture. Daniel Davis talking about this. Russia's position keeps
Speaker 1: getting stronger the more the day's roll on. That just
Speaker 1: means every day there's a thousand less Ukrainian soldiers on
Speaker 1: the front line, or maybe fifteen hundred.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: But if this is a battle of attrition, Russia clearly
Speaker 1: has the ball in its court. Why would they even
Speaker 1: bother to negotiate? I mean, and what's with this deadline?
Speaker 1: There's a ceasefire deadline on Friday. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: even know what that means.
Speaker 4: Well, well, yeah, I mean what it means, and is
Speaker 4: even more puzzling because President Trump, I think it was yesterday, ready,
Speaker 4: the day before clarified.
Speaker 2: Yes, this deadline is firm.
Speaker 4: It is this Friday, the eighth of August, and probably
Speaker 4: there will be some sanctions put in. But then interestingly,
Speaker 4: he adds, but it probably won't do any good. It
Speaker 4: probably won't make them change their mind. And then one
Speaker 4: has to wonder, Look, it's not just sanctions on Russia,
Speaker 4: it's secondary sanctions on China, India, Brazil and several anyone
Speaker 4: who does business with Russia in the the pedrocarbons area
Speaker 4: for oil and gas, and that look, we're already having
Speaker 4: huge trouble getting the normal deals signed with specially with
Speaker 4: all three of those actually, and especially India that's the
Speaker 4: biggest one, because China's already kind of antagonistic, but India's
Speaker 4: kind of is pliable to be our friend or our ada.
Speaker 2: Exactly. This is not gonna help us. So I just
Speaker 2: don't understand where we're going with this.
Speaker 1: Well that I mean, you suggest Trump's kind of back
Speaker 1: into a corner along those lines. He doesn't want to
Speaker 1: alienate India, and he is trying to get a better
Speaker 1: relationship with China and so far as trade deals are concerned.
Speaker 1: So this had throw a giant monkey wrench into the
Speaker 1: whole process. I think you know the bluff has been
Speaker 1: called here. It appears well, it does appear that. Unfortunately.
Speaker 4: You say he's back into a corner, But he was
Speaker 4: the one that made the corner, because he's the one
Speaker 4: who added this or created this deadline. So I don't
Speaker 4: really understand why he did that. Maybe he thought just
Speaker 4: the threat of it would cause Russia to do something.
Speaker 4: I don't know why he initially did it, but now
Speaker 4: he is himself acknowledging that it's unlikely, and I would
Speaker 4: say impossible, not even unlikely. There's no chance, zero chance
Speaker 4: that Russia would submit to what Trump wants, which would
Speaker 4: only benefit the Ukraine side. They'll never do that, and
Speaker 4: so the front line is going to continue to be
Speaker 4: chewing up y Ukraine troops and Russia will not stop.
Speaker 1: They clearly will not. Well, let us assume, for the
Speaker 1: sake of discussion, you had a more rational, thoughtful, contemplative
Speaker 1: leader in Ukraine, someone who was willing to acknowledge how
Speaker 1: bad the situation is for them, someone who might be
Speaker 1: willing to acknowledge some concessions to the Russians in terms
Speaker 1: of some of the Russian dominated areas that they have
Speaker 1: already taken over conceding a partial victory to Russia. That
Speaker 1: is a possibility to resolve the broader conflict before Ukraine
Speaker 1: gets completely rolled over, isn't it.
Speaker 4: That's one of the things that the Russian side themselves
Speaker 4: say that they are really frustrated about. That deal that
Speaker 4: you said has been on the table offered from the
Speaker 4: Russian side since June of last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not this past June.
Speaker 4: They've been saying it over and over and they have
Speaker 4: never deviated from that, and they're still saying the same things.
Speaker 4: It's a draconian issue, there's no question about it. It's
Speaker 4: an ugly deal for Ukraine, without question. But it's much better,
Speaker 4: or maybe a better way to say it, it's much
Speaker 4: less worse than the current situation where you're dying by
Speaker 4: the large, by the bucket loads every day. Just imagine
Speaker 4: how many people in Ukraine have been killed since June
Speaker 4: of last summer, and how many could have been saved
Speaker 4: if they had had the same deal and instead of
Speaker 4: the worst one that they're gonna end up with. If
Speaker 4: Russia just physically mows all the way to Kiev. That's
Speaker 4: what that the woman said that the parliamentarian if nothing changes,
Speaker 4: Russia could be at the gates of kiv by the
Speaker 4: end of this year.
Speaker 1: Wow, well, any change, chances for an administration changed, there
Speaker 1: a coup or something, I know, Marshal Osman declared, which
Speaker 1: is the only reason is Lensky is still currently president.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you've got people protesting in the streets
Speaker 1: over you know, snatching young men off the streets and
Speaker 1: throwing them into the army against their will, if you
Speaker 1: have people fleeing the country in order to avoid that,
Speaker 1: it sounds to me like the population of Ukraine might
Speaker 1: choose a different direction in terms of leadership.
Speaker 4: So far, there there is an increasing number that's doing that,
Speaker 4: but so far the numbers of support for Zelensky are
Speaker 4: still quite especially in the western parts where they don't
Speaker 4: see the aspects of war. A lot of the people
Speaker 4: in the eastern part where all the fighting and dying
Speaker 4: and destroying is happening, which are large percentage of ethnic Russians.
Speaker 4: Actually there's there are a lot worse Zelensky and the
Speaker 4: other people in the other part of the country. So
Speaker 4: in terms of the people uprising, there's there's doesn't appear
Speaker 4: to be any in imminent danger, but there are rumors
Speaker 4: that some of the other folks in Ukraine, so they
Speaker 4: as all kind of the folks, other even possibly European people,
Speaker 4: are tired of dealing with him, and there's some suggestion
Speaker 4: that he consider stepping down, et cetera. But so far
Speaker 4: those are all just reports, and you know, someone anonymous
Speaker 4: is reporting, so we don't know how valid those are.
Speaker 4: But Zelenski can't help but be pretty nervous these days.
Speaker 1: I imagine. So I'm sorry we're at a time we
Speaker 1: can't get to Gaza and Israel. Something suggests to me
Speaker 1: that that topic will still be alive and well for
Speaker 1: our conversation next Tuesday.
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