WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:01:27.280 Oh that's are. 2 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:49.119 Hello, and welcome to the show. This is the Cults 3 00:00:49.240 --> 00:00:51.520 of Conspiracy, and my name is Jonathan. 4 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:52.520 I'm Jacob. 5 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:54.719 I'm not gonna lie, dude. It feels really weird. We 6 00:00:54.759 --> 00:00:58.200 went two straight days with no recording at all. I'm like, 7 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:00.840 I'm lost, I'm new, i don't know what to do. 8 00:01:01.640 --> 00:01:04.480 It's it's a little different, bro. But honestly, I liked 9 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:07.959 the break right. So for anybody who doesn't know, I 10 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:10.239 have a cousin who's getting married. We're recording this on 11 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:14.040 Sunday right now. It's coming out on Tuesday. And you know, 12 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:15.560 there we were, we were all having a little fish 13 00:01:15.599 --> 00:01:19.040 and trip until ead a bend, right, And anybody who 14 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:22.000 knows I'm not the biggest of nature freaks. I do 15 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:25.040 enjoy nature. I enjoy fishing, I enjoy hunting. I don't 16 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:27.159 get to do it as much as I would like to, right, 17 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:30.760 just because work and life and kids and things. It's 18 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:32.920 just it's not always in the cars me to get 19 00:01:32.920 --> 00:01:35.480 a week in off to just go out into nature 20 00:01:35.519 --> 00:01:38.239 and have a good time. Right. But with that being said, 21 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:42.000 I decided that this was going to be an excellent 22 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:45.640 time to do a little bit of research into keeping 23 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:52.040 the earth clean, okay, just overall, keeping not just America clean, 24 00:01:52.120 --> 00:01:56.480 but the air and the water quality and the environment itself. 25 00:01:56.640 --> 00:01:59.439 And a big portion of this is, or at least 26 00:01:59.439 --> 00:02:02.519 what we in America have been taught, recycling, right, that 27 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:05.480 is the best way to try to help keep America clean, 28 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:08.159 to help the environment. You want to protect the earth 29 00:02:08.159 --> 00:02:11.240 for future generations, and I support all of that as 30 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:15.120 far as the theory of it goes, okay, but I 31 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:17.759 couldn't just sit on this because the fact of the 32 00:02:17.759 --> 00:02:21.960 matter is that recycling is a scam and it also 33 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:25.800 doubles up as a syop Jonathan, before we get started, 34 00:02:26.319 --> 00:02:28.000 what is your take on this? We touched on it 35 00:02:28.039 --> 00:02:30.759 a bit on the last Live, but I don't know. 36 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:32.360 Are you of the belief that I'm kind of full 37 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:34.599 of shit here? Do you believe that there might be 38 00:02:34.639 --> 00:02:36.879 a kernel of truth? Like, before we even get started, 39 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:37.919 where do you currently sit? 40 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:41.560 I'm just over here chuckling, because even when we have 41 00:02:41.759 --> 00:02:46.360 off days, we're still thinking about concepts and still looking 42 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:49.560 into information and still got that third eye all the 43 00:02:49.560 --> 00:02:52.680 way open. It's like, once you got that fucking thing open, dude, 44 00:02:52.759 --> 00:02:55.439 it stays open. It doesn't go back to being shut. 45 00:02:55.919 --> 00:02:56.960 I can't turn it off. 46 00:02:57.000 --> 00:02:58.680 We can't turn it off. I was just trying to 47 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:01.400 have a little good time fishing for some saccal a 48 00:03:01.479 --> 00:03:05.560 right with my family, and here we all were talking conspiracies. 49 00:03:06.120 --> 00:03:09.360 Right then, I'm hearing things, ooh damn Bongino and Pat 50 00:03:09.400 --> 00:03:13.759 Bondy and Cash to tell might be resigning because of 51 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:16.919 the whole Epstein thing. And it's like, wait, first of all, no, 52 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:19.159 they're not. Secondly, the reason why they're pushing under the 53 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:21.360 rug is because Trump is on the list multiple times. 54 00:03:21.719 --> 00:03:23.960 The reason why they've changed so hard is because he 55 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:26.400 told them if they don't change their tune, they would 56 00:03:26.439 --> 00:03:29.560 lose their job. It's come on now, y'all. But we're 57 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:32.319 talking all these conspiratorial things even on off days. We 58 00:03:32.360 --> 00:03:33.639 can't turn this shit off, y'all. 59 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:37.520 Yeah. Yeah, And speaking on that, I you know, whenever 60 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:40.520 I first saw that, I was like, you know, I 61 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:43.439 know that you gotta be pretty damn tight lipped. Whenever 62 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:46.719 you're in the administration. You can really only say things 63 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:49.520 that like you were allowed to say. You know, it's you. 64 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:52.240 You can never really go outside of your your own 65 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:54.599 boundaries that they have set for you. And yeah, I 66 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:56.840 play ball, or they'll kick you off the ball team. Dude, 67 00:03:56.919 --> 00:03:57.919 that's just the way it works. 68 00:03:58.039 --> 00:03:59.000 I get it. 69 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:03.000 But does it just turn these people into cooks? You 70 00:04:03.039 --> 00:04:05.479 know what I'm saying. It's like you find they probably 71 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:08.879 fought their whole lives to get into these positions just 72 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:11.520 to turn into the people that they were trying to 73 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:14.039 replace and thing, and it's sad. 74 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:17.839 It's basically And I had high hopes. I had really 75 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:21.519 high hopes for Cash Hotel and for Dan Bongino. I 76 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:23.839 had really high hopes for them. But either way it goes, 77 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:27.160 as of this moment right now, either a they lied 78 00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:30.279 to us a month ago whenever they claimed that they 79 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:32.519 had new evidence, and he killed himself and all these things, 80 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:34.680 and now there's nobody else on the list and it's 81 00:04:34.759 --> 00:04:37.680 just him. Either they lied to us then, or they're 82 00:04:37.720 --> 00:04:40.600 about to resign because they can't keep up the lie. 83 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:43.680 So either way it goes, they have no moral backbone 84 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:45.759 and I have nothing for them. Yeah. 85 00:04:45.800 --> 00:04:48.800 So what I was thinking, Either they built up a 86 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:54.560 lie so much that everybody bought into Epstein Island, and 87 00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:57.399 there were actors that were saying that that they were 88 00:04:57.399 --> 00:05:01.160 being taken advantage of and that rate there would have 89 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:03.480 been the biggest sigh out because you know, Biden wasn't 90 00:05:03.480 --> 00:05:05.439 going to do anything about it, and we all had 91 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:08.199 hopes that Trump was gonna be able to, you know, 92 00:05:08.720 --> 00:05:10.920 put an end to it and lock up the people. 93 00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:14.079 I don't know why we thought that, because back whenever 94 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:18.079 he was battling Hillary, right, Oh, you know, you're you're 95 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:21.040 lucky I'm not president, because you'd be in jail. Whatever happened, 96 00:05:21.040 --> 00:05:24.439 never happened. Nothing, never fucking happened, big fat nothing burger. 97 00:05:24.879 --> 00:05:27.120 So I mean, and I'm not I know that this 98 00:05:27.199 --> 00:05:30.920 isn't gonna be a political episode. It's just this political shit, 99 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:34.759 this political shiit just keeps on stacking, and if you 100 00:05:34.759 --> 00:05:37.399 don't keep up with it, it's almost like it's almost 101 00:05:37.439 --> 00:05:39.639 like a drama, you know what I mean. It's like 102 00:05:39.680 --> 00:05:42.279 you missed one episode. It's like you may as well 103 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:43.480 just bow out for a season. 104 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:47.560 It's it's the entire drama of Aduce the theater, that's 105 00:05:47.600 --> 00:05:50.199 all it is. We've heard the term paid actors, how 106 00:05:50.199 --> 00:05:54.600 about elected actors? Same okay, actors, it's the same shit. 107 00:05:54.759 --> 00:05:57.800 But look, it's and I'm sorry we've said this before. 108 00:05:58.480 --> 00:06:00.639 You know, that's just the way it is. If you're 109 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:03.160 waiting on a hero, and if you think that there 110 00:06:03.240 --> 00:06:05.160 is a good guy that's gonna come riding in on 111 00:06:05.319 --> 00:06:08.639 a white horse to save everybody, Listen, we said this before. 112 00:06:08.680 --> 00:06:12.519 I'm sorry. There are no good guys to be found here. Okay, 113 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:15.720 that's they're not happening. This is the real world. The 114 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:20.319 good guy very very often loses. And that's not just 115 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:22.000 the way it's gonna play out. What we are left 116 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:26.360 with is which pedophile is going to be better for 117 00:06:26.399 --> 00:06:30.199 the economy and keep us out of war more. I'm sorry, 118 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:32.879 I don't want to just crush everyone's soul real quick, 119 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:36.000 but this is just the way it is. Which shitthead 120 00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:41.279 paid for by corporate lobbyist bullshit greed okay, who guaranteed 121 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:43.920 they have blackmail on him? And he's a team player 122 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:46.279 because of the blackmail. Otherwise he wouldn't even be on 123 00:06:46.279 --> 00:06:49.160 the ballot in the first fucking place. Which pedophile is 124 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:52.680 going to do better for America? Does this negate them 125 00:06:52.759 --> 00:06:54.680 being a piece of shit and a pedophile? Absolutely not? 126 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:57.839 And yes, should they see justice, yes absolutely they should? 127 00:06:58.079 --> 00:07:00.519 Are they gonna not in this lifetime, homie? 128 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:03.079 And that's the thing is that you know, I know 129 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:05.600 a lot of people think that the CIA, and we 130 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:07.920 know that the CIA probably had a lot to do 131 00:07:07.959 --> 00:07:10.079 with Epstein Island, but you know who have everything to do 132 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:12.480 with it? You know who else did? Was Massad Mussad? 133 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:17.040 Oh yeah, and yeah, I don't think I think that they, 134 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:19.800 you know, Israel or at least its own secret or 135 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:23.920 its own Central Intelligence agency, they're not going to let 136 00:07:23.920 --> 00:07:28.000 that go there. In that, in my opinion, is the 137 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:30.959 reason why Trump kind of bent the knee and helped 138 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:32.120 out Israel with Iran. 139 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:36.040 That's what I Listen, It's not just Moussad, and it's 140 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:39.040 not just well, we helped them with Iran because Iran 141 00:07:39.079 --> 00:07:41.079 hates us as much as they hate Israel. So I 142 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:43.199 mean that that one. Really, even if we weren't on 143 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:45.480 the best of terms of Israel, that's enemy of my enemy. 144 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:48.560 Yeah, but they changed. Trump changed his tone on that 145 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:49.399 real quick. 146 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:50.279 Did he did. 147 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:53.560 But listen, it's not just Mussad, and it's not just CIA, 148 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:55.040 and it's not just FBI, and. 149 00:07:54.959 --> 00:07:57.800 It's not just Inner Pole. It is all of them. 150 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:02.279 Every country had some type of even if it wasn't 151 00:08:02.279 --> 00:08:05.879 Epstein Island itself, they have their own version of that, 152 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:10.120 and they're all connected. They all have these corporate shitheads 153 00:08:10.120 --> 00:08:13.920 and these lobbying groups and these political figures who they 154 00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:16.839 have to find something to blackmail them. They have to 155 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:19.920 find something to have them buy the balls. And if 156 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:22.720 they don't have anything, they will create things. And that's 157 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:24.240 what it's all about. It's not that's the thing. I 158 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:26.600 don't want to just say, Oh, you know, it's Israel 159 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:30.360 and America and cohotes. Dude, it's all of them. There's 160 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:31.439 no good guys here. 161 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:34.320 And you don't come back from pedophilia, you know what 162 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:37.919 I'm saying. Like, there's no making amends with the American 163 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:41.120 people or any people of the world if you're in 164 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:44.120 and and look, I get it, like we've we've we've 165 00:08:44.159 --> 00:08:46.639 known that Trump was on that list for quite a while. 166 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:46.919 Now. 167 00:08:47.399 --> 00:08:49.840 We don't know exactly what he did, but one is, 168 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:53.960 it's pretty fucking easy to assume, right, Like I mean, 169 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:56.080 if it fucking walks like a duck and quacks like 170 00:08:56.120 --> 00:08:58.039 a duck, we're not gonna sit here and call it 171 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:01.879 a fucking eagle, you know. It's just that's I don't 172 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:04.360 want to jump to those conclusions. But there has to 173 00:09:04.399 --> 00:09:07.440 be a reason why that information is not being released. 174 00:09:08.440 --> 00:09:10.559 I'm glad you gave the description you just did. 175 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:13.039 Okay, if it walks like a duck and quacks like 176 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:15.120 a duck, I just listened to the Tim Dillon show. 177 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:18.600 Shouts out to him, he's amazing. And this is the 178 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:22.799 situation we have found ourselves in. Okay, you are saying, 179 00:09:23.120 --> 00:09:25.320 if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, 180 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:28.279 it must be a duck. But you will be called 181 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:33.360 an anti semite and a racist and a homophobe and 182 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:37.399 every other type of bad ooh ah, evil name under 183 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:40.399 the sun, because how do you know it's not a goose? 184 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:43.759 Well wait, wait, wait, time out, it's it's it walks 185 00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:45.399 like a duck and quacks like a duck. And okay, 186 00:09:45.399 --> 00:09:48.240 it's still a bird. It's still a bird. Okay, what 187 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:52.080 is the deal. It's like, well, why do you just 188 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:54.879 think that somebody be out here playing with a duck 189 00:09:54.960 --> 00:09:58.200 call for no reason? If it's not a duck, it 190 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:00.480 could it be a personal a duck call? Why would 191 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:02.000 somebody out be out here with a duck call? It's like, 192 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:04.279 because people do that. It's for hunting, and it's like 193 00:10:04.320 --> 00:10:07.000 a thing. It's like, well, you know that's not always true. 194 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:08.519 Have you ever heard of duck dynasty. 195 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:12.240 These guys play with duck calls, and some of them 196 00:10:12.279 --> 00:10:15.320 are racists, And it's like what, I'm sorry, wait back 197 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:17.120 to the point. It walks like a duck and quacks 198 00:10:17.159 --> 00:10:19.039 like a duck. If we're seeing this happen, that's what 199 00:10:19.159 --> 00:10:21.600 needs to, you know, be a thing. Well, why don't 200 00:10:21.639 --> 00:10:24.639 you go with your racist friends at duck dynasty? You 201 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:27.240 back at and that you're getting like thrown under the 202 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:30.600 bus for just thinking critically for two seconds, and they're 203 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:33.279 drawing every other conclusion they ain't got shit to do 204 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:35.759 with fuck, and they're bringing it all in to make 205 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:38.639 you look like a psychopath when in reality, you just 206 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:42.440 want us to all unanimously acknowledge that what's going down 207 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:43.799 right now is completely fucked up. 208 00:10:44.159 --> 00:10:45.320 But you're just a beg at. 209 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:48.679 I think it's one of three things. It's either Trump 210 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:51.639 is a pedophile and that's why it's being covered up. 211 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:55.720 Trump is covering for his pedophile friends, which is why 212 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:57.879 he would be getting why he would be covering it up. 213 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:03.080 Or three, it was never real to begin with. That's 214 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:06.879 the only options in my mind, Like just thinking critically 215 00:11:06.960 --> 00:11:09.960 here what are the reasons you wouldn't want to release 216 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:13.399 that information. I just I'm baffled in my own mind 217 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:15.279 trying to think about it. And you got to boil 218 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:17.879 it down to those three things. And we know for 219 00:11:17.919 --> 00:11:20.879 sure one of those three things can't be true. We 220 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:22.480 know that this island existed. 221 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:26.559 There are multiple victims that have come forward, there's multiple 222 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:29.399 court cases and being paid off in silenced. There is 223 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:32.080 not just on the island, but even his house in 224 00:11:32.159 --> 00:11:35.000 New York. Like going back to the nineties, this shit 225 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:38.159 was going off right, the Lolita Express, the Little Black Book. 226 00:11:38.200 --> 00:11:40.960 You can actually find the Little Black Book of all 227 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:44.799 the names on archive dot org on the way back machine, 228 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:48.000 and people are looking at it and it looks legit, 229 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:50.639 dude like, and we've actually read a lot of those 230 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:53.440 names in the past, and you know, it wasn't officially 231 00:11:53.519 --> 00:11:55.919 released or anything, and I don't know, I mean, it 232 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:58.759 was like somebody anonymously put it up there, but it 233 00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:01.919 seems really legit if you look at it. 234 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:02.360 It is. 235 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:04.840 I just watched I saw this list. I was I 236 00:12:04.840 --> 00:12:07.600 went on Instagram to see if our homegirls of the 237 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:10.600 Cryptic Women's Society shouts out to them, if they had 238 00:12:10.639 --> 00:12:14.600 message back, and as I open Instagram, there was a list. 239 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:17.759 I think it was like the first probably like two 240 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:21.039 hundred names on Epstein's list, and a lot of things 241 00:12:21.080 --> 00:12:23.519 that were redacted from it, but the names themselves were not. 242 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:26.080 These things are coming more and more to light, and 243 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:29.200 so these people are saying that there was no client list, 244 00:12:29.679 --> 00:12:32.320 there was a sole actor in this. It's like, okay, 245 00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:35.399 so right off the rip, I know you're lying, okay, 246 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:36.960 and not just because of an Instagram post. We have 247 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:39.559 been talking about this for years now. We all know 248 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:42.480 that Epstein's island existed. So one of three options is 249 00:12:42.519 --> 00:12:46.240 already down. So either a Trump himself is guilty, or 250 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:49.799 two Trump is guilty of turning a blind eye, which 251 00:12:49.960 --> 00:12:52.480 in our opinion makes him equally guilty. 252 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:56.000 Yeah, it's completely at that point, which is I mean, 253 00:12:56.039 --> 00:12:58.559 you may as well have just done it, because we're 254 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:00.720 going to look at you the same exact way. 255 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:03.120 That being said, I would still rather him be in 256 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:05.720 the White House than Kamala, Like I think we can 257 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:07.720 also acknowledge that two things can be true at the 258 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:11.879 same time. I know I do. Kamala would have made 259 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:14.360 it more of a slave state. Let's look at what 260 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:16.519 she did with her time in California and the fact 261 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:19.159 that she doesn't have brains that actually like works and 262 00:13:19.240 --> 00:13:22.519 shit versus Trump, who is like actually trying to make 263 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:24.320 economic changes happen in this country. 264 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:27.600 Sure, the same, but look, it's a slippery ass slope 265 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:31.279 to say, I really you would rather a known, possibly 266 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:35.840 known pedophile or somebody who is possibly known to be 267 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:39.919 covering up four pedophiles equally complicit, right, just like like 268 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:42.440 what like we said, so Dia Kamala when she was 269 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:45.480 the Attorney General she covered for pedophiles in California all 270 00:13:45.519 --> 00:13:45.960 the time? 271 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:48.919 Oh did she? I didn't know that. Oh, it's That's 272 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:51.120 what I'm saying. There's no good guys here, y'all. There's 273 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:53.879 no good guys. They are all equally shit of the 274 00:13:53.960 --> 00:13:59.759 same crimes, whether it's corporate greed, child labor laws, sex trafficking. 275 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:03.600 I had a feel travel name your thing, it doesn't matter. 276 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:05.799 They are all of the same shit birds of a 277 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:09.360 shit feather. This is the facts of the matter. So, yes, 278 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:11.840 kerb I would still rather him be in the position 279 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:15.960 than Kamala, But I'm not happy about certain things the 280 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:18.000 same with like, uh, you could have two things be 281 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:20.639 true at the same time, I believe that Israel should 282 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:23.519 exist as a state, and I also think Netan Yahoo's 283 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:25.559 a piece of shit. Two things can be true at 284 00:14:25.559 --> 00:14:26.879 the same time, you see what I mean? 285 00:14:27.159 --> 00:14:29.639 Yeah, for sure, for sure, I mean, and we'll see 286 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:32.559 how it plays out. I guess there's been a little 287 00:14:32.600 --> 00:14:36.440 bit of momentum because of the pushback of literally everybody 288 00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:40.240 on both sides. Everybody on both sides is like, yeah, 289 00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:42.919 let the Epstein list come out, Like, let's see who's 290 00:14:42.960 --> 00:14:45.000 all involved in it. We've been hearing about it for 291 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:49.240 what five years now, and you know, there's been quote 292 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:52.440 unquote leaks and some rumors and and you know, some 293 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:55.279 people you know, talking and stuff like that, and we 294 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:57.919 all know that. You know, there's some of the people 295 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:01.759 for sure, like Les Wexner of Victoria's Secret and all 296 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:03.840 these all the other ventures that he's in. It's like, 297 00:15:04.200 --> 00:15:06.720 but even he never had really anything coming at him. 298 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:11.679 The only two people that have been persecuted one's dead Epstein, 299 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:15.720 who dude, that nothing pissed me off more than for 300 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:18.639 all of them to say, yeah, yeah, he killed himself. 301 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:23.200 I'm like, no, he didn't, Like, come on, no, he didn't. 302 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:26.919 And the same thing with with his life. Old Gis Lane. 303 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:30.000 You know, it's like, what is she in jail? Like 304 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:32.519 she's been like trafficking kids to herself. 305 00:15:32.960 --> 00:15:36.080 No, if there's no crime that was committed according to 306 00:15:36.080 --> 00:15:39.879 the official judiciary narrative right now, if no crime was committed, 307 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:41.159 then why is she still in prison. 308 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:45.919 There's there's just no answers, you know, And so they 309 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:48.399 kind of backed themselves into a corner here. And to 310 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:54.279 be honest, I mean, I'm I'm almost like, I like, 311 00:15:54.559 --> 00:16:00.000 it hurts me to even say this, but like I think, 312 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:02.279 think I'm just off of the whole Trump train as 313 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:05.000 it goes until this all gets figured out. Like I 314 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:07.559 can't put any more faith in them, And that sucks. 315 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:09.039 Not that I had a whole lot of faith in 316 00:16:09.080 --> 00:16:12.919 a president regardless, but I can't sit here and cheer 317 00:16:13.000 --> 00:16:17.480 on somebody who is a pedophile or covering for a pedophile. 318 00:16:17.559 --> 00:16:19.799 That's I mean, it's the optics of the situation. 319 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:23.240 I'm not I'm not cheering them on. I am saying 320 00:16:23.279 --> 00:16:24.799 that I like some of the things that he has 321 00:16:24.840 --> 00:16:27.000 done thus far, and I don't like certain things that 322 00:16:27.039 --> 00:16:30.679 he has also done with this term in office. It's 323 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:31.360 just what it is. 324 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:35.879 I mean, what's his fucking name? Tom Hanks can create 325 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:39.759 every single awesome movie known to mankind. I'm not gonna 326 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:42.720 go watch him, right, you know? And I think that 327 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:45.879 we got to treat all pedophiles that way, right, Like 328 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:48.159 we're kind of fucking wrong if we don't. 329 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:51.480 Oh no, I agree, but it is what it is, like, 330 00:16:52.039 --> 00:16:54.639 of the two options that were up on the ballot, 331 00:16:54.679 --> 00:16:57.360 it was about to be Joe Biden, who is equally 332 00:16:57.399 --> 00:17:00.679 guilty of all the same shit. And also so the 333 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:03.559 Breezema deal with his son, and also all of the 334 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:06.119 other scandals that took like like it was a bad 335 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:08.119 situation regardless or Trump. 336 00:17:08.279 --> 00:17:11.720 Which I found it really strange about, you know, because 337 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:14.400 it was a couple of years ago that Ashley Biden's 338 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:18.519 diary leaked, right, yes, and now she's making Instagram posts 339 00:17:18.599 --> 00:17:21.039 talking about how what is it her uncle? I think 340 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:24.480 because that's not his daughter. I think it's his niece 341 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:27.279 something like that, either his daughter or his niece. I 342 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:30.640 forget which one. But yeah, talking about like, oh, you know, 343 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:33.920 I make sure that I stay up extra late so 344 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:37.839 that Joe doesn't come in the shower with me. It's 345 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:40.680 like she was saying that as a little girl, dude. 346 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:44.720 And now you'll see her. She's making posts for him, 347 00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:47.200 taking pictures of him, talking about how sweet he is 348 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:49.759 and how much he still cares. And it's, you know, 349 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:52.960 Joe Biden's sitting at his desk basically probably you know, 350 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:58.079 taking some Crayola markers and just coloring in a coloring book. 351 00:17:58.400 --> 00:18:01.240 And she's like, he's back to work and he's smarter 352 00:18:01.319 --> 00:18:03.720 than ever. And I'm like, Ashley, come, I mean, did 353 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:05.880 he get you again? Like a we what are we 354 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:08.880 doing here again? There is no good guys here y'all. 355 00:18:09.240 --> 00:18:10.720 And I hate to breathe the one to bear the 356 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:16.680 bad news. There haven't been any since. I would Arguereisenhower, 357 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:20.720 even Howard cover a lot of shit up though too. 358 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:26.240 I mean, you're talking about politicians. 359 00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:27.720 But he that's my point. Though he was a four 360 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:30.960 star general or five star general actually during World War Two, 361 00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:33.759 he was never like slated to be a career politician. 362 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:36.119 I think that we could make a case to say 363 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:39.000 he was probably the last president that actually truly gave 364 00:18:39.039 --> 00:18:41.480 a fuck. And I don't believe that he was guilty 365 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:43.799 of pedophilia or any of these things, or these underhanded 366 00:18:43.839 --> 00:18:45.839 deals or whatever. I could be wrong. We may do 367 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:48.599 an episode on him one of these days, but as 368 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:50.920 of right now a time of recording, I think he 369 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:51.440 was legit. 370 00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:55.599 But it was right before JFK. I think, right, yeah, 371 00:18:55.839 --> 00:18:58.720 like the one directly before JFK. And I you know, 372 00:18:58.920 --> 00:19:01.680 and we've heard, you know, certain things just in regards 373 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:04.680 to aliens and about how you know, Eisenhower was the 374 00:19:04.680 --> 00:19:07.359 first one to meet an alien, the first president to 375 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:10.200 meet an alien, and he briefed JFK on it. And 376 00:19:10.599 --> 00:19:12.200 I don't know if any of that's true, though I 377 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:16.000 hope it is. Like allegedly, the story goes that Eisenhower 378 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:19.000 had some people come up and say, hey, you know, 379 00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:22.400 we need you to meet these beings or whatever, and 380 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:24.880 they like, Eisenhower met him on a golf course. 381 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:27.519 Have you heard that story? I've heard about this. 382 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:29.880 That's a pretty wild one. Anyway, Look, we're gonna get 383 00:19:29.920 --> 00:19:32.640 to recycling. We just had to get all of this 384 00:19:32.759 --> 00:19:35.839 off our chest because you're seeing it all transpire over 385 00:19:35.880 --> 00:19:40.039 the weekend and it's just like, you know, I hope 386 00:19:40.039 --> 00:19:43.359 that it eventually reaches a boiling point and people don't forget. 387 00:19:43.880 --> 00:19:47.480 I mean, it's too big to forget. The whole Epstein thing. 388 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:49.720 Just to sweep it under the rug. And you see 389 00:19:49.759 --> 00:19:52.200 Trump He's like, are you guys still talking about that? 390 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:57.000 Like yeah, but we're still talking about the reporter and yes, 391 00:19:57.000 --> 00:19:59.359 I understand we have floods going on. Yes, there's pressing 392 00:19:59.400 --> 00:20:01.559 matters that need to get situated. I get that. It 393 00:20:01.559 --> 00:20:03.880 also kills me to watch liberals try to blame Trump 394 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:07.759 for the floods. That is fucking hysterical. I forgot. Trump 395 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:10.960 controls the rainfall and is making these Okay, fine, yes, 396 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:12.839 I know they make weather happen. I'll get you on this, 397 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:16.000 But like they're saying that because he cut funding to FEMA, 398 00:20:16.519 --> 00:20:19.640 this is what caused rainfall and what caused one hundred 399 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:22.000 to five hundred year flood to happen. It's like big Dolf. 400 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:24.039 FEMA was never where the fuck to begin with. 401 00:20:24.440 --> 00:20:27.200 No, they weren't. But like, sure, anything to throw Trump 402 00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:29.640 under the bus. I get that. The reporter stands up 403 00:20:29.680 --> 00:20:32.079 and asked about this, and he just gasled him to 404 00:20:32.440 --> 00:20:35.920 the world and it's like, okay, wow, bro, But to 405 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:38.960 that point, not a good look from Eisenhower. We had 406 00:20:39.279 --> 00:20:44.519 JFK and then Nixon. Okay, so Nixon was a member 407 00:20:44.559 --> 00:20:48.200 of Bohemian Grove where we know that pedophilic stuff has 408 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:50.000 happened since they was founded. 409 00:20:50.559 --> 00:20:52.599 Oh so LBJ was after JFK. 410 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:56.519 No, well, LBJ was JFK's VP, so when he got assassinated, 411 00:20:56.599 --> 00:20:59.279 LBJ became president. But I mean, like in a free 412 00:20:59.279 --> 00:21:02.079 and open election kind of thing, right, Yeah, But my 413 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:05.599 point is Bohemian Grove is just one example. The Democrats 414 00:21:05.640 --> 00:21:09.079 have had their version of that for forever. So really 415 00:21:09.400 --> 00:21:13.640 there hasn't been a non guilty party. Okay, So yes, 416 00:21:13.720 --> 00:21:16.720 George Bush Senior, George Bush Junior, don't even get me 417 00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:19.480 started on the Clintons and all their pedophilic shit like 418 00:21:20.519 --> 00:21:24.440 Carter name it. They all had their hands and other 419 00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:28.119 parts of their bodies in very disgusting things and should 420 00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:31.559 be tried and like I would say, assassinated, you know, 421 00:21:31.680 --> 00:21:32.319 just throwing it out. 422 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:36.519 But I'd love to hear what QAnon's saying about this shit. 423 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:41.200 Now, fuck QAnon, Jesus Christ now. But Reagan the same 424 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:44.240 way he was in Hollywood. He was a young guy 425 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:47.279 in Hollywood. We have done how many episodes about what 426 00:21:47.359 --> 00:21:51.200 goes on in Hollywood, especially in the sixties and seventies. 427 00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:56.119 That's what I'm saying there. There's no innocent parties here, y'all. 428 00:21:56.160 --> 00:21:58.759 If their name is on a federal ballot. I hate 429 00:21:58.759 --> 00:21:59.880 to be the one to tell you this. 430 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:02.960 They didn't get there from being really hard workers and 431 00:22:03.079 --> 00:22:06.279 really good freaking guys. It's not a thing. It's not 432 00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:09.440 Boston there, it's I don't know. 433 00:22:09.480 --> 00:22:11.599 I just felt right to go that route. I don't know. 434 00:22:11.720 --> 00:22:16.000 But beside the point anyway, put out your JFK there, sir. Yeah, 435 00:22:16.079 --> 00:22:18.480 yeah he was. He was a Massachusetts boy for sure. 436 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:20.640 Not Boston, that's for sure. He would never be caught 437 00:22:20.720 --> 00:22:24.720 dead by the pores, no way. He would just rather 438 00:22:24.759 --> 00:22:28.559 be caught dead in Dallas or you know, tag team 439 00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:31.400 of Marilyn Monroe with his brother. Hey, it goes. 440 00:22:31.279 --> 00:22:34.200 All right, let's hear about recycling. Let's get into it. Yeah, 441 00:22:34.440 --> 00:22:37.160 this is something that we have kind of hinted at. 442 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:39.359 We talked a little bit about it on the Live show. 443 00:22:39.839 --> 00:22:42.160 To be honest, I never knew that there was any 444 00:22:42.200 --> 00:22:44.920 shit with recycling. I just always assumed that it was 445 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:47.440 a good and pure and honest thing. 446 00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:48.880 But you know, and. 447 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:52.119 That's that's the thing, is that anytime it seems too 448 00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:55.119 perfect on the surface, it's like, don't look into goodwill 449 00:22:55.680 --> 00:22:58.200 don't look in the Salvation army like I promise you, 450 00:22:58.240 --> 00:22:59.240 it'll break your heart. 451 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:03.640 One hundred percent. Brother. And so let's talk about recycling 452 00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:06.960 real quick. And it's okay if you don't know the 453 00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:09.319 answers to this, because I promise you and most of 454 00:23:09.359 --> 00:23:11.680 our listeners don't. I didn't know the answers to this, 455 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:14.119 these questions I'm about to ask until I started doing 456 00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:16.599 the research. So let's learn to get the good cult members. 457 00:23:16.759 --> 00:23:19.880 I'm also gonna make sure that you'll know that this 458 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:22.119 is going to be an episode where we have articles, 459 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:24.000 we do have videos, and if you would like to 460 00:23:24.119 --> 00:23:26.480 see what we are talking about rather than just hear 461 00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:27.880 about it through your ear holes. 462 00:23:28.319 --> 00:23:29.599 Jonathan, where can they go? 463 00:23:30.200 --> 00:23:32.279 They can go to Patreon dot com slash Cult of 464 00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:35.400 Conspiracy Podcast. 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You can ask all of that. 472 00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:53.279 You can also sign up for the Third Eye all 473 00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:55.079 the way open to here that will give you access 474 00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:57.880 to come join us every Tuesday night at nine pm Central. 475 00:23:58.279 --> 00:24:00.640 But probably the main reason why you come over to Patreon, 476 00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:05.240 let's just be real, it's because it's absolutely commercial. 477 00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:08.519 Yeah, buddy, we know them. 478 00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:10.480 Them had to be a pain in the dick, so 479 00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:13.839 you know, kick that dick and come over to Patreon. 480 00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:17.680 That's right, all right. Now that being said, I'm going 481 00:24:17.720 --> 00:24:19.279 to share the screen here in a moment, But before 482 00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:23.480 I do, where do you think recycling started? At least 483 00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:24.640 in America? 484 00:24:25.160 --> 00:24:26.119 You mean? Or what place? 485 00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:30.039 Let's see who do you think created it? Let's start 486 00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:35.279 off with the basics, right, Greenpeace, the hippies, political groups, 487 00:24:35.799 --> 00:24:38.680 international groups. Maybe where do you where do you think? 488 00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:42.359 Just go under your head answer where do you think 489 00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:46.720 the recycling came from? Hmmm? 490 00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:49.599 I would I'm just going to assume that it was 491 00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:50.920 a democratic. 492 00:24:50.359 --> 00:24:53.119 Thing, like from the Democratic Party. 493 00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:56.119 You mean, I mean that's where the KKK came from? 494 00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:57.519 True, very true. 495 00:24:57.720 --> 00:25:00.960 And if there's a lot of bullshit with recycling, and 496 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:02.960 it's not to say that one party is any better 497 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:04.599 than the other. Let's just be real, but there's a 498 00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:06.839 lot of shit that comes from the blue, you know 499 00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:07.319 what I mean? 500 00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:10.480 Very true? Okay, so you're you're the belief that it 501 00:25:10.519 --> 00:25:14.319 came from a political party or political lobbiest group, something 502 00:25:14.359 --> 00:25:15.160 along these lines. 503 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:18.920 Probably. Yeah, I don't even know where to begin as 504 00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:22.400 far as like, what were the grassroots beginnings to recycling? 505 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:26.759 Okay, well, let's get into it here. Do you remember 506 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:28.759 the Crying Indian ad? 507 00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:29.400 I do. 508 00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:34.119 Yeah, we played that the keep America Beautiful quote unquote 509 00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:37.440 a public service announcement. Was the first time that what 510 00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:42.079 we might now call recycling was actually introduced. Okay, and 511 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:44.039 if you haven't seen it, I'm gonna go ahead and 512 00:25:44.079 --> 00:25:45.920 play it right now. So once again, if you would 513 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:48.359 like to see what we are talking about, Patreon would 514 00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:49.000 be the place to go. 515 00:25:49.319 --> 00:25:52.559 Man, it's only in the eighties or nineties that came on. 516 00:25:53.559 --> 00:25:57.559 This was in the seventies. Damn that far back. Yeah, 517 00:25:57.599 --> 00:26:01.440 so the Crying Indian commercial and some of our more 518 00:26:01.480 --> 00:26:05.440 seasoned listeners may remember seeing this on their color TVs 519 00:26:05.480 --> 00:26:07.599 in their living room. Some of our cult members that 520 00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:10.079 have been here for a minute has probably seen us 521 00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:12.200 play this ad before. But just for any of the 522 00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:14.200 newer cult members, or maybe this is your first time 523 00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:17.000 ever listening to us. Yes, if we piss you off 524 00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:20.000 with our political rantings at the beginning of this, my bad, 525 00:26:20.039 --> 00:26:22.559 but we kind of go all over here. Our add 526 00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:25.519 brains are what is the show? Okay? So anyway, so 527 00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:29.200 here it is the Crying Indian ad, the PSA that 528 00:26:29.400 --> 00:27:05.240 started the recycling industry. 529 00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:10.880 Some people have a deep, abiding respect for the natural 530 00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:16.359 beauty that was once this country, and some people don't. 531 00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:25.559 People stop collution. People can stop it. Okay. Now, for 532 00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:28.680 anybody who doesn't know the guy, the Indian himself, we're 533 00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:31.720 going to talk about him. He's not Native. He's actually 534 00:27:31.720 --> 00:27:36.279 a Sicilian dude. But like you know, the commercial was 535 00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:40.160 to push a fake narrative, and it makes sense they 536 00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:42.759 would use a fake Native American for this purpose. 537 00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:46.839 Yeah, that sounds about right. Yeah he didn't really. I mean, 538 00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:49.279 take away the feather and the long hair and the 539 00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:51.519 garb and everything that he's wearing. You can tell by 540 00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:53.680 his face he's not Native American at all. 541 00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:56.960 No, dude, not even a little bit. So now let's 542 00:27:57.079 --> 00:28:01.480 learn the shocking truth behind the Crying Indian commercial. This 543 00:28:01.559 --> 00:28:04.319 is a ranker article. Let's get into it. 544 00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:07.559 Even if you weren't watching television in the nineteen seventies, 545 00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:10.519 you heard about the Crying Indian commercial. A Native American 546 00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:14.400 man in traditional garb canoes canoes through a trash filled river, 547 00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:18.319 pass factories, and along crowded highways, all while a narrator 548 00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:22.160 bemoans the deterioration of the natural world. The commercial ends 549 00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:23.799 with a zoom in on the man's face as a 550 00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:27.240 tear rolls down his right cheek. This visually striking scene 551 00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:31.519 has become synonymous with environmental activism and personal responsibility when 552 00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:34.640 it comes to tackling pollution. The Crying Indian commercial was 553 00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:38.880 developed by the nonprofit Keep America Beautiful or CAB, with 554 00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:42.680 a stated mission in quotes to inspire and educate people 555 00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:45.200 to take action every day to improve and beautify their 556 00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:49.279 community environment. The Crying Indian PSA was part of a 557 00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:53.680 larger decades long collaboration between CAB and the Ad Council, 558 00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:57.000 founded in nineteen forty one to work with advertising groups 559 00:28:57.039 --> 00:29:01.000 on public service campaigns designed to stimulate the commedy economy 560 00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:05.480 by promoting business during World War Two. Why was CAB 561 00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:06.839 or what was it called? 562 00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:07.079 Again? 563 00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:10.079 The America Beautiful? But for lack of you know, for 564 00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:10.880 the brevity of it. 565 00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:12.839 Just so everyone knows when we say CAB for the 566 00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:16.119 rest of this article, it's KAB. Keep America Beautiful. 567 00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:18.559 Yeah, we're not talking about electro Nick's boy, you know 568 00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:22.480 what I mean. Why was CAB working with an industry 569 00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:25.559 focused organization like the AD Council to raise awareness about 570 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:30.240 environmental concerns. The truth is CABS founders were not as 571 00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:35.119 invested in anti pollution activism as their campaign indicated, and 572 00:29:35.160 --> 00:29:38.680 their real motivation was to deflect responsibility for reducing waste 573 00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:42.359 from corporate interest and onto people. The Crying Indian is 574 00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:45.559 just the tip of the iceberg. They missed the They 575 00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:47.160 missed the mark there. They could have said tip of 576 00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:49.519 the spear. They could have That would have been too good. 577 00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:52.440 The Crying Indian is just the tip of the iceberg. 578 00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:57.039 That represents CAB's marketing output and initiatives, which spanned from 579 00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:59.480 its inception in the nineteen fifties to the present. 580 00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:04.119 Now let's learn more about this. Keep America Beautiful was 581 00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:09.640 founded in nineteen fifty three by the packing and beverage industry. Now, 582 00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:12.920 what do we mean by package and beverage? For the record, yes, 583 00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:16.440 the ten cans, coke cans, and glass bottles and all 584 00:30:16.440 --> 00:30:19.279 of this, but not just them packing industry as far 585 00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:22.759 as packaging goods to travel and transport from point A 586 00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:25.480 to point B, everything from cardboard boxes to big plastic 587 00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:28.920 toats full of chemicals. On this website, CAB says it all. 588 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:31.480 It was formed in nineteen fifty three when a group 589 00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:34.680 of corporate and civic leaders met in New York City 590 00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:37.480 to bring the public and private sectors together to develop 591 00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:41.640 and promote a national cleanliness ethic. These corporate and civil 592 00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:46.519 leaders quote unquote were members of wealthy packaging and beverage 593 00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:52.200 companies including American Can Company, Owen's, Illinois Glass Company, Coca Cola, 594 00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:56.200 and Dixie Cup. Unable to deny the products they manufactured 595 00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:59.160 were contributing to litter and waste build up across the country, 596 00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:02.400 they decided to tackle the problem by pointing fingers at 597 00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:06.759 people buying and using their products. Through its efforts, cawboying 598 00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:09.480 to make the public believe it was their responsibility to 599 00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:12.839 dispose of these products correctly, not the responsibility of the 600 00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:17.240 companies to be more focused on sustainable practices. These packaging 601 00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:21.359 industry spokes people also justified their stance by claiming it's 602 00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:25.720 what consumers wanted. They preferred the convenience of reusable over 603 00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:30.200 the hassible of refillables. 604 00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:34.599 Unreal and so always everybody else's dude, that's a gas 605 00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:38.160 light and shit right there. You know, Yes, it's not 606 00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:40.559 a hard problem. We're just making it. We're not the 607 00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:43.880 ones that are throwing it out, which I mean, to 608 00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:47.920 be honest, I'm not gonna say that they're zero percent, right. 609 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:50.480 I mean, we have to take some responsibility as well 610 00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:52.720 and learn how to throw shit in trash and all that. 611 00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:56.000 But let's just be real, dude. I mean, this is 612 00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:58.920 something that they could have done from the very beginning, 613 00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:05.359 created you know, sustainable products that maybe nature would take 614 00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:08.440 over or something like that. You know, because they have 615 00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:11.319 like certain cardboards now that like if it gets thrown 616 00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:13.319 out or if it gets you know, littered somewhere, that 617 00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:15.640 the forest will just take it back right. 618 00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:20.000 Right, but keep them with papers and cardboards for the 619 00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:23.480 most part, are biodegradable, right, And yes, a stack of 620 00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:26.200 them will take forever to decompose, but you can process 621 00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:29.680 them and make them easier for the earth to reabsorb 622 00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:32.559 kind of thing. And I get this, but you understand. 623 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:34.400 I think back in the day of the fifties when 624 00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.279 this was popping off here, the milkman would come to 625 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:41.000 your house with a six pack of glass milk bottles 626 00:32:41.079 --> 00:32:42.680 and you would drink them, and he would take the 627 00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:45.200 empties and he would go back to the dairy and 628 00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:47.519 refill them and then bring them back to you. This 629 00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:50.519 was a cultural thing in America that went by the 630 00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:55.160 wayside in favor of one time, single use milk jugs 631 00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:57.440 that you would buy from the store. And they use 632 00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:01.000 this whole convenience thing to make that. So you realize 633 00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:03.880 that Coca Cola could have done something very similar. Yes 634 00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:06.240 they have glass coke bottles, and yes those are recyclable, 635 00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:10.079 but they chose to go more in the realm of plastic. 636 00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:13.640 And I should also get that distinction here. The main 637 00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:18.599 bad guy in the recycling world is plastics. Okay, And 638 00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:20.680 we're gonna talk about all these things more in depth, 639 00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:24.400 I promise you. But I'm not saying that recycling in 640 00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:28.720 and of itself one hundred percent is bullshit. Most glass 641 00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:34.200 products and most metal products are one hundred percent recyclable. Yeah, 642 00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:36.279 and it's very easy. You could take you an aluminum 643 00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:39.160 can smelt it down, re pour it into a mold, 644 00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:42.039 and you have another can. It is a thing. Yes, 645 00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:44.400 it might be a little expended to you know, melt 646 00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:47.119 it and do all these things, but it's not like 647 00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:50.599 this is going into the earth. Glass. Very similarly, if 648 00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:53.839 you go to buy a Mexican coke from your local 649 00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:57.359 Mexican restaurant, if you look, you could actually probably peel 650 00:33:57.400 --> 00:33:59.759 back the label on the Coca cola and see that 651 00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:02.279 it at one time was a phantom bottle or a 652 00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:05.880 sprite bottle, or even a pepsi It doesn't matter. They 653 00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:09.039 can actually recycle glass, and a lot of places will 654 00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:12.440 do very successfully. The big bad guy that's hurting the 655 00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:13.880 earth is plastics. 656 00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:18.559 Yeah, it's some wine companies do that too, they kind 657 00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:22.639 of recycle old wine bottles and stuff like that. Yeah, 658 00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:25.320 I was gonna say. What's funny is is that this 659 00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:28.320 was all put on by the AD Council. And so 660 00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:31.280 if you if you have been following us for a 661 00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:34.280 few years, you'll know that the AD Council was definitely 662 00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:40.000 complicit in all of the pushing of dairy products, right like, 663 00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:41.519 and we did a whole show on that a few 664 00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:45.239 years ago, and so and also think about what the 665 00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:48.960 AD Council is doing now. I mean, how many billboards 666 00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:53.119 are reminding you that vaping is horrible and it's even 667 00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:56.960 worse than smoking cigarettes. And I'm like, you know, I'm 668 00:34:57.039 --> 00:34:59.719 not here to say that vaping is good for anybody, 669 00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.440 but I can help but to think that they're they're 670 00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:05.440 not worried about your health and they're more concerned about 671 00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:07.639 lining the pockets a big tobacco. 672 00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:11.360 Right, one hundred percent, Like, there's not I know this 673 00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:13.719 is going to be a controversial hot take. Do your 674 00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:17.840 research on it. There is no independent lab study independent 675 00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:21.840 should throw that word out big bold and underlined, no 676 00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:26.079 independent lab study that can verify that vaping is less 677 00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:29.760 or is more harmful than smoking tobacco. As a matter 678 00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:32.559 of fact, all independent lab studies show that it is 679 00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:35.880 substantially better than it's still bad for you. I'm not 680 00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:38.519 denying that there is still you're doing harm to your body. 681 00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:43.239 It's basically, yeah, but it's vegetable glycerine. It's it's you know, 682 00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:46.719 I wanted to say season, but it's it's basically, you know, 683 00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:47.760 I mean, it's. 684 00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:51.679 Candy flavorings, vegetable glycol which is a more refined version 685 00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:55.119 of vegetable oil, and nicotine, which is not harmful. 686 00:35:55.199 --> 00:35:56.840 That's it. Those are the three things. 687 00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:58.880 Right right, And a lot of the vape stores they 688 00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:01.199 they make it in how and you can see exactly 689 00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:04.360 what products they're using. And so I'm again, I'm not 690 00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:06.719 trying to sit here and say that vaping is good 691 00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:09.039 for anybody. I mean, I would love nothing more than 692 00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:12.960 to quit vaping, and I've tried it. It's just Nicotine's 693 00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:16.679 a motherfucker, dude. But you know, it's it's just the 694 00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:20.800 things that they push are never sincere, they're never genuine. 695 00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.239 They always have you know, an ace up the sleeve, 696 00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:27.400 and you know, and that's the crazy thing. It's like 697 00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:30.880 where was all this pushback, you know, trying to get 698 00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:34.679 the tobacco industries out of here, But as soon as 699 00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:36.840 vaping rolls around, it's it's all of a sudden, a 700 00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:40.440 huge issue, like why haven't all of these different vaping 701 00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:44.039 companies that have like gotten kicked to the kick to 702 00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:46.519 the curb jewel I think was the first one, and 703 00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:48.920 you know, because they were making all those different flavors 704 00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:51.000 and who the fuck smoke's a jewel anymore? You know, 705 00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:53.400 they still got them around, but and the same thing. Dude, 706 00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:55.679 you can't get geek bar anymore. Do you know that 707 00:36:56.440 --> 00:36:59.480 I just bought one in Arizona there that's gonna be 708 00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:00.880 one of the last ones you'll ever buy. 709 00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:05.880 Really Yep, damn, I mean it's But that's my point. 710 00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:09.400 It's all being done by lobby groups, by ad councils 711 00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:12.079 and the it's not there's no actual things to back 712 00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:12.679 this claim. 713 00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:15.519 But to get back to it, right, You ever seen 714 00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:18.719 the show mad Men? Oh yeah, John Ham, Dude, he's 715 00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:20.559 the man. You remember that scene where they go on 716 00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:22.559 a picnic and they just like dump their trash in 717 00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:25.800 the middle of the park and dip out. Yep, that 718 00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:28.119 was kind of a cultural thing, not just for like 719 00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:31.719 rich swanky Americans. Pretty much everybody just dump their trash 720 00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:33.760 wherever they want and said fuck it, the same way 721 00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:35.960 that India still does it to this day. But besides, 722 00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:37.840 we're gonna get to the other countries and all that 723 00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:40.960 in a minute. My point is that they wanted to 724 00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:45.159 make it a you problem. It's your fault that the 725 00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:50.320 earth is dying, not us making five hundred tons of 726 00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:54.280 plastic single use bottles that can't be decomposed or recycled. 727 00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:57.840 It is your fault for buying them, and that was 728 00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:00.920 what this push was about. So then how did they 729 00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:02.880 start this process. They had to pull on the heart 730 00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:06.199 strings kind of make people feel guilty, right, but they 731 00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:10.079 had to give them a virtuous way out into recycling. 732 00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:12.199 We're gonna get to it all. Let's keep going here 733 00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:14.199 the crying Indian commercial and you. 734 00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:15.800 Know what, just to add on top of that too. 735 00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:19.239 I feel like they it seems like a foreign concept 736 00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:21.920 that you would just be able to refill your your 737 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:25.079 coke bottle or whatever. But it's really not that crazy. 738 00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:28.400 Whenever you think about other things that we are regularly 739 00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:31.760 refilling and not getting a new one of every single time, 740 00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:35.000 like things right your gas tank for example. Think about 741 00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:37.360 like if you have a Tesla, you're getting that same 742 00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:41.760 battery charged every single time, and especially nowadays, everybody's getting 743 00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:45.039 the Stanley cubs or or whatever. Like why can't there 744 00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:49.000 be some kind of some kind of code or something 745 00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:52.119 that's that you you just buy a sticker or something 746 00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:54.599 like that and you go get it refilled somewhere or 747 00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:56.679 something along those lines, you know what I mean. 748 00:38:57.039 --> 00:38:59.559 No, one hundred percent, how many of these places have those? 749 00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:01.719 Like really as coke machines where you go and you 750 00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:03.719 select the type of coke, and hell, there's like eight 751 00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:06.239 different flavorings you could do, right, and it's like a 752 00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:09.639 food you know, restaurants and things like that. But we 753 00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:13.039 also have those you you do your own Mountain do 754 00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:15.159 at the house, right, you do your own bubbly Yeah. 755 00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:17.280 And the little carbonated. 756 00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:20.639 Water thing soda stream Yeah, okay, you understand that it 757 00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:22.320 is a real thing that we could have where you 758 00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:25.760 would have a reusable, refillable bottle and you would go 759 00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:27.639 up to instead of a coke machine to buy a 760 00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:31.400 twelve ounce coke, you would just go to the machine, 761 00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:34.760 pay your money and refill your reusable bottle. That could 762 00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:37.400 have been a thing that we had, but they chose 763 00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:41.440 to only offer these non recyclable options. 764 00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:42.360 Yeah. Yeah. 765 00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:44.679 And that's the thing with those those soda streams. I mean, 766 00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:46.280 we don't have any connection to them, but I fucking 767 00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:47.000 love that company. 768 00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:47.719 Okay. 769 00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:49.760 And all you do, you just refill your co two 770 00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:52.239 whenever it runs out, and you get some of the 771 00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:54.840 whatever your favorite pop is. Yes, I said pop. I'm 772 00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:58.079 gonna always call it pop. And you know, you just 773 00:39:58.119 --> 00:39:59.239 get the syrup mix it in there. 774 00:39:59.280 --> 00:39:59.519 Dude. 775 00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:02.440 And it's way fresher than any other drink that you'll 776 00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:03.119 ever get at the store. 777 00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:03.320 Too. 778 00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:05.920 You're getting it literally freshly carbonated. It's the best way. 779 00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:08.559 That's my point. All you would need is the same 780 00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:10.840 like the Coca Cola guy that comes and refills the 781 00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:13.880 machines there there. It could have been a version of 782 00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:16.400 this world where he would come and refill the syrup 783 00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:19.719 and the co two tank and that would be it. It's 784 00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:22.880 the same infrastructure, the same logistics of moving things from 785 00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:26.199 the Coca Cola bottling company and manufacturing company to the 786 00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:29.400 machines for the consumers to buy. It's the same thing. 787 00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:32.639 They chose to do it this way. We will talk 788 00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:36.760 about why later on, I promise you. Because it's it 789 00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:39.000 all comes down to the money, dude. It all comes 790 00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:41.599 down to the dollar and cents of it all. But anyway, 791 00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:46.000 so in the fifties and sixties, the litter problem got 792 00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:48.800 to be really bad, right, and it wasn't just a 793 00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:51.960 thing that they really cared about making America clean and 794 00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:54.320 keep America beautiful in all this, but they had to 795 00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:59.920 start the keep America Beautiful ad campaign. The Crying Indian was. 796 00:40:59.880 --> 00:41:05.079 The first commercial, the first like real initiative taken by CAB. 797 00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:08.239 Oh yeah, he was the Captain America for recycling bro. 798 00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:15.280 And of course Cabin Marshall on Earth Day nineteen seventy one. 799 00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:18.960 So the first Earth Day was organized in nineteen seventy 800 00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:21.920 a sign of consciousness, of a consciousness shift for the 801 00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:27.400 American public, especially among youth. CAB corporates interests watch fearfully 802 00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:31.000 as students organize demonstrations against soft drink companies in the 803 00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:34.400 weeks around Earth Day on April twenty second. These companies 804 00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:37.880 were so concerned about demonstrations that FBI agents were posted 805 00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:40.719 at plants and factories all over the country to monitor 806 00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:47.079 in quotes, radicals during process radical recyclers. That's crazy, I. 807 00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:49.280 Mean, to be fair, we do have like green peace 808 00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:52.039 and shit to like try to start fights with fishing boats. 809 00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:56.400 So like, environmental radicals are absolutely a thing. They have 810 00:41:56.519 --> 00:41:58.519 been for a while, so all right. 811 00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:02.119 Well and especially during you know the seventies, that's hippie 812 00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:05.840 time right there. So yeah, by the next Earth Day, 813 00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:09.039 CAB in conjunction conjunction with the ad Council was ready 814 00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:12.800 with the crying Indian commercial. They adopted a symbol of 815 00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:16.760 the counterculture as well as the growing Native American resistance 816 00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:20.800 to blend their message and messaging into the movement. The public, 817 00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:24.639 unaware of the interest groups financially backing the commercial, saw 818 00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:27.280 it as an effective public service announcement. It was so 819 00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:31.000 popular that TV stations wore through their video recordings of 820 00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:35.400 the commercial, often requesting additional copies from the ad Council. 821 00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:39.239 Damn absolutely, dude. Now. The commercial was part of a 822 00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:44.199 campaign designed to tap into the new environmental movement's focus 823 00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:47.840 on pollution. The Crying Indian commercial pointed to a larger 824 00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:52.480 messaging shift with CAB within cab rather, it's a Its 825 00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:56.039 non corporate sponsors were pushing to change its focus from 826 00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:59.159 the litter and pollution or sorry, it was from litter 827 00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:03.440 quote unquote to pollution quote unquote. They had to change 828 00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:06.280 the wording, they had to change the verbiage. We've seen 829 00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:10.199 lobbying groups and politicians do this exact same thing in 830 00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:13.559 our modern day and age. Are we not so? Even 831 00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:17.079 back in nineteen seventy one, they said, it's not litter, 832 00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:21.000 you're polluting the earth. You're not littering the streets of 833 00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:24.519 your town, you're polluting the globe. How dare you? 834 00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:28.880 I would say that the factories are the polluting and 835 00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:32.440 the litter. I mean, I mean, you see littering all 836 00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:36.000 the time. People litter, but I wouldn't call that fucking polluting. 837 00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:39.320 That's weird to make that shift like that, But the. 838 00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:44.119 Keep America Beautiful campaign wanted every person that's throwing a 839 00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:45.960 cigarette butt out of their car to know that they 840 00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:50.519 are polluting with this. By the late sixties, pollution was 841 00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:54.079 a major problem in American cities, from pervasive smog to 842 00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:57.840 oil spills to rivers catching on fire. The decade ended 843 00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:00.920 on a dismissal note, as activists began and emphasizing the 844 00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:04.920 role corporations were playing in perpetuating pollution. Cab knew it 845 00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:09.320 needed to change its narrative. The ad Cancel AD Council 846 00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:13.880 rather hired a new agency, Marstellar, to design the Crying 847 00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:17.679 Indian campaign. Marsteller is also one of these ad groups 848 00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:21.800 that like when you look into certain symbolism and how 849 00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:23.920 it plays on the American psyche and you want to 850 00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:26.320 talk about like ancient occult knowledge that they know and 851 00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:30.320 that's why they interject in commercials. That's one of the groups. 852 00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:32.199 There's a lot of them. There's a lot of ad 853 00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:34.639 agencies out there, but Marsteller is one of the ones 854 00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:36.679 that like was really hot and heavy with it back 855 00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:37.039 in the day. 856 00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:40.159 Oh dude. And that's the thing. Even with like especially 857 00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:43.679 ad agencies, I'm sure they know about, you know, how 858 00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:48.320 to manipulate symbolism and play to the subconscious like animalistic 859 00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:51.559 part of your brain that remembers you know what I mean, Like, 860 00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:56.440 there's something just so inherently evil about manipulating the mind 861 00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:58.519 of the people that don't even know that that kind 862 00:44:58.519 --> 00:44:59.360 of shit exists. 863 00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:02.719 Absolutely correct, and they've been doing this for a very 864 00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:05.559 long time. By the way, it didn't the manipulation of 865 00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:10.760 people's minds by advertisements that didn't start in this timeframe. 866 00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:14.400 I mean. Fuck, there's ancient rome used to do a 867 00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:19.719 very similar version of like logos and marketing, and they 868 00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:22.719 would say, like, only the real Romans eat bread from 869 00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:23.599 this bakery. 870 00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:27.119 Yeah, yes, it definitely goes all the way back. It's 871 00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:30.519 just the first thing has changed. And I would actually 872 00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:33.639 say that it's gotten even better. I mean, if it 873 00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:36.440 wasn't so evil, it's gotten way better as far as 874 00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:39.519 it being able to just slide it right on past 875 00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:42.840 your psyche and into your subconscious right. 876 00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.519 Anyway, back to the point here, they were hoping to 877 00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:49.960 tap into feelings of exasperation over the environmental crisis while 878 00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:53.639 continuing to divert attention away from industry. The vice president 879 00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:56.960 of Marstellar at the time told the AD Council is 880 00:45:56.960 --> 00:46:00.280 a direct quote, the problem was the attitude and the 881 00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:05.320 thinking of individual Americans. They considered everyone else but themselves 882 00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:10.440 as polluters. Also, the never correlated pollution with litter. The 883 00:46:10.679 --> 00:46:14.800 mindset of the public had to be overcome. The objective 884 00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:18.719 of the advertising, therefore, would be to show that polluters 885 00:46:18.760 --> 00:46:22.639 are people, no matter where they are in industry or 886 00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:27.199 on a picnic. With the crying Indian commercial cab was 887 00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:30.400 able to drive home the idea that individuals are the 888 00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:35.079 source of the emerging environmental catastrophes. As the commercial ends, 889 00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:38.000 focusing in on the tear on the man's face, a 890 00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:42.679 narrator sadly announces, people start pollution, people can stop it. 891 00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:47.239 Oh my god, right, Yes, it had to make you 892 00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:51.039 feel bad. How dare you litter and pollute the earth? 893 00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:53.679 And granted, yes, there is something to be said for that, 894 00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:56.280 I can agree. Throwing out a styropham plate of food 895 00:46:56.320 --> 00:46:58.199 at this dude's feet and all that which was done 896 00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:00.719 on purpose as a part of the thing that is 897 00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:03.480 not a good thing. You shouldn't be littering. It doesn't 898 00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:07.000 turn form pollution. And we can agree on that. But 899 00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:09.360 that wasn't the thing saying that people are causing a 900 00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:11.559 drop in the bucket. It was a thing saying that 901 00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:13.880 people were causing the main problem. Bro. 902 00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:17.960 Yeah, but look at what you're making available, you know, 903 00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:23.239 Like it's like we're we're we we think the same 904 00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:26.880 on certain things, like, for example, we think that all 905 00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:30.199 drugs should be legal, all of them. Like, look, if 906 00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:32.280 people are people are gonna do it one way or another, 907 00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:34.519 whether you make it illegal or not. I mean, let 908 00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:36.440 that person decide what they want to do with their life. 909 00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:39.679 Nobody has an issue with somebody drinking themselves to death, 910 00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:42.920 but right, and nobody has an issue with somebody sitting 911 00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:46.559 at home eating candy and chips and soda and all 912 00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:47.840 this other shit, you. 913 00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:52.000 Know, becoming morbidly obese and becoming a hassle and a 914 00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:54.199 hindrance on every person in their life. 915 00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:57.519 Oh well, that's just their personal choice. How dare you 916 00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:00.079 fat shame them? That's what I'm saying. And so so 917 00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:02.320 I think that if you give you got to give 918 00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:06.400 people the option. But also conversely with that, whenever you 919 00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:10.880 do give people the option, it's like in this can 920 00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:13.599 and probably will go south. That's when you acknowledge this. 921 00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:15.880 That's what I'm trying to say. Yeah, it can and 922 00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:18.719 it will go south. You got to if you're the government, 923 00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:22.079 remember like, and it just stated right there that we 924 00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:26.440 have to change the mindset of the American people. Remember 925 00:48:26.440 --> 00:48:30.079 what government means, you know, it means to control the mind. 926 00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:34.559 That's all thereafter And and I kind of I mean, 927 00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:38.920 I would say that's mostly what their job is. 928 00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:43.679 I want to break down the word government. But it's 929 00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:46.559 not actually to control the mind. It's to control the 930 00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:50.760 foundation on which a principle is a long story short. Yes, 931 00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:53.119 I'm with you. The ad campaigns and the ad councils 932 00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:56.199 and especially the crying Indian commercial. It was a guilt trip, 933 00:48:56.719 --> 00:48:59.480 that's all it ever was. And the dude in charge 934 00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:02.880 of the marsh Stellar Ad Council literally just told us this. 935 00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:09.440 Wait, are you saying that government doesn't equal governed mind? Control? Control? 936 00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:12.840 Mint is mine? That's not you're saying the mint incorrect. 937 00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:17.320 Mint does not always mean mind. That's like saying establish mint. 938 00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:20.280 So it's the mind of what was established. No, it's 939 00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:23.320 a foundation on which it was founded upon. It's it 940 00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:25.760 depends on the context of the word. The etymology can 941 00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:27.320 mean different things. That's all I'm saying, And we don't 942 00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:28.639 need to spend a whole bunch of time on that. 943 00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:31.559 We could talk about that later. But what I'm saying 944 00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:34.960 is that, yes, the government in this case, the lobbying groups. 945 00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:38.320 See the ad Council, y'all, is a lobbying group, and 946 00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:41.239 it is also used by lobbying groups to push certain 947 00:49:41.320 --> 00:49:44.880 narratives to change public opinion to where they don't have 948 00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:48.280 to make corporate CEOs change their mind. They need to 949 00:49:48.320 --> 00:49:51.199 get the public to change the mind and change the 950 00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:54.599 culture to where the CEO is way removed from what's 951 00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:57.079 actually happening on the ground. This is the slide of hand. 952 00:49:57.400 --> 00:49:59.760 Yes, yes, that's what I'm That's basically what I'm trying 953 00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:01.920 to get to is that the people that should be 954 00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:07.480 held liable are pushing it down to basically its own consumers, 955 00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:12.880 you know, And that's very slight of handish. 956 00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:15.079 Very much so. And even to further the sleight of 957 00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:17.920 hand in the bullshit here, like we brought up earlier. 958 00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:20.559 Let's learn a little more here. The actor who starred 959 00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:24.840 in the commercial, Ironized Cody, as he was later confirmed 960 00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:29.599 or his stage name, was an Italian American, not even 961 00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:32.280 a Native American. They couldn't have even hired an actual 962 00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:34.480 Indian to play the role of the Indian man. 963 00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:36.960 Well, yeah, they don't need to be paying anybody at 964 00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:39.239 the res it's bullshit. 965 00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:42.599 So yeah, a Sicilian guy who has a better shot 966 00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:45.320 of being cast in a Mafia movie was the guy 967 00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:46.840 they chose for this. Let's keep going. 968 00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:51.119 Adding to the campaign's artifice is the fact that the 969 00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:54.039 actor who played the crying Indian was in fact an 970 00:50:54.039 --> 00:51:00.280 Italian American born Espera Oscar Oscar de Cordi, and establish 971 00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:04.119 Hollywood actor who portrayed Native Americans in westerns DA Cordi 972 00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:07.920 adopted the name Ironized Cody. I don't know if there's 973 00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:11.199 ever going to be an Ironized Cody, you know what 974 00:51:11.239 --> 00:51:11.719 I'm saying. 975 00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:14.800 That's like, that's the most ridiculous name. 976 00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:18.559 That's like sure, that's like flying Eagle Jessica, Like that's 977 00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:21.440 just never going to work, you know, right, I forgot 978 00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:27.760 old Thunderbird Abigail over here. My bad like, what, oh so, 979 00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:31.199 anyhow ironized Cody? He wore a wig and don native 980 00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:36.079 American costuming. D Cordy passed in quotes as Native American 981 00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:39.320 on and off the screen, appearing in public as Ironized Cody. 982 00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:42.360 The use of a native a non native actor shows 983 00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:44.840 that CAP did not care about investing in the truth. 984 00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:47.559 It was interested in using the visual symbol of a 985 00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:50.679 crying Native American man to protect its interest. Even the 986 00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:53.840 tear on de Courdy's cheek was fake, of course it was. 987 00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:57.480 The effect was created with the help of glycerin. 988 00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:00.639 And mentioned right here. This is a picture of him 989 00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:05.119 next to old Jimmy Carter in the Oval office. Again, 990 00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:07.920 there's no good guys to be found anywhere, y'all. I'm sorry. 991 00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:12.400 That's literally like a perfect picture of two birds of 992 00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:14.159 the literal same shit feather. 993 00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:17.519 And Okay, you know what, I think that the whole 994 00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:23.199 appropriate cultural appropriation typically is really stupid. Okay, Like how 995 00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:26.920 your little kid wants to dresses Mwana for Halloween this year? Okay, 996 00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:31.719 but how dare you appropriate Polynesian culture? Shut up, shut up? Okay, 997 00:52:31.719 --> 00:52:36.039 that's stupid. Let the kids have fun. But this I 998 00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:39.119 get if a Native American tribe wanted to sue the 999 00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:43.559 Dcordi family for their relative making money off of cultural 1000 00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:47.280 appropriation and all, like, yo, okay, we can have this conversation. 1001 00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:50.280 Yeah, I think that's that's only right. I mean, think 1002 00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:54.000 about it. For example, Let's say you up and up 1003 00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:56.480 your own convenience store, right, and you want to start 1004 00:52:56.480 --> 00:53:00.760 printing your own products because by printing your own products, 1005 00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:03.719 you don't want to have to pay that company a 1006 00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:08.119 little percentage for using their logos or their symbols or whatever. 1007 00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:08.400 Right. 1008 00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:11.079 But let's say you, you know, for some reason, you 1009 00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:13.719 want to create your your own Captain America. But this 1010 00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:16.880 is Jacob's Convenience store, and so it's not going to 1011 00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:18.679 be a Marvel Captain America. It's going to be your 1012 00:53:18.719 --> 00:53:22.000 Captain America. Marvel has every right to come for that 1013 00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:25.440 ass right, every single right. And the same thing goes 1014 00:53:25.480 --> 00:53:29.239 here like that, that is absolutely a slap in the face. 1015 00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:32.760 I would say, I agree, right, And yes, although the 1016 00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:35.760 message was sent and like it was heartfelt by the 1017 00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:39.239 American people and all of these things, bro, there are 1018 00:53:39.480 --> 00:53:45.119 thousands of Native Americans that would have absolutely done that role, 1019 00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:47.360 like without a shadow of a doubt. 1020 00:53:47.480 --> 00:53:49.719 Because anything to make the white man feel guilty. They 1021 00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:51.360 would have been on board. They probably would have done 1022 00:53:51.400 --> 00:53:55.960 for fucking free. But sure, let's hire the Sicilian guy. 1023 00:53:56.079 --> 00:53:59.360 Yeah. So, in nineteen sixty, CAB partnered with the AD 1024 00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:05.559 Counsel to career a national beautification campaign. Yes, indeed, interesting, 1025 00:54:05.639 --> 00:54:08.039 all right, So the partnership between the AD Council and 1026 00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:11.239 CAB started in nineteen sixty. The AD Council managed several 1027 00:54:11.239 --> 00:54:14.159 successful public marketing campaigns in the decades leading up to 1028 00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:17.559 this collaboration, and the advertising companies commissioned to work with 1029 00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:21.639 CAB on their behalf developed an accusatory language to push 1030 00:54:21.719 --> 00:54:25.840 the litter problem into public discourse. During this summer and fall, 1031 00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:29.000 all media will participate in an accelerated campaign to help 1032 00:54:29.039 --> 00:54:31.760 curb the massive defacement of the nation by thoughtless and 1033 00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:35.639 careless people, wrote David Beard in nineteen sixty one, advertising 1034 00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:41.719 director of Reynolds Metal Company. That's hilarious and a CAB 1035 00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:43.039 member over that, and. 1036 00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:45.360 By Reynolds, for the record, we do in fact mean 1037 00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:48.199 Reynolds rap as an aluminum foil. 1038 00:54:48.880 --> 00:54:50.519 Oh shit, all right. 1039 00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:54.119 Yes, big time, big dude CEO. And we should also 1040 00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:56.199 mention that he was a member of CAB. 1041 00:54:56.760 --> 00:54:59.719 Of course he was so. Over the next few years, 1042 00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:04.000 Yard's comments escalated, as he told newspapers in nineteen sixty 1043 00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:06.719 three in quotes, the litter bugs are on the loose, 1044 00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:10.639 and we're counting on you to take up arms against them. 1045 00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:13.000 M f Absolutely, they're trying to make this like a 1046 00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:15.599 smoke of the bear. Only you can prevent forest fires thing, 1047 00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:18.880 which like, okay, I don't want more forest fires, but 1048 00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:22.280 they wanted that same energy to be the war against 1049 00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:23.079 the litterbugs. 1050 00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:26.719 What's the I can never remember it. What's the name 1051 00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:28.960 of the drug that the Chinese are pushing across the 1052 00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:29.800 Mexican border? 1053 00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:30.519 Fentanyl? 1054 00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:35.440 Fentanyl? Right, That's like if I became a fentanyl dealer, right, 1055 00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:38.880 and I'm pushing it to everybody. I'm like, yo, forget 1056 00:55:38.920 --> 00:55:40.800 about heroin, forget about. 1057 00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:41.960 Math, forget about this. 1058 00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:45.800 You need this, right, And then walking down the streets 1059 00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:49.000 and saying, my god, these people are overdosing on fentanyl. 1060 00:55:49.039 --> 00:55:51.440 What a bunch of morons. It's like, you're the one 1061 00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:52.599 that fucking gave it to him. 1062 00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:56.280 Ah, one hundred percent. Well that's a conversation for the 1063 00:55:56.320 --> 00:55:58.679 war on drugs, which we have done an episode about. 1064 00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:00.400 But I'm with you one hundred percent it, bro. 1065 00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:04.920 Yeah, so let's see. At the same time, the AD 1066 00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:08.199 Council created its first mascot, a young girl in a 1067 00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:12.480 white dress named Susan Spotless. She first appeared in nineteen 1068 00:56:12.519 --> 00:56:17.199 sixty four, expressing shock over the refuse over the refuse 1069 00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:21.360 her parents discarded in public places, in essence, pointing her 1070 00:56:21.519 --> 00:56:24.280 finger at the outside world for contributing to the mess. 1071 00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:28.159 Through this narrative, the AD Council made littering a family affair, 1072 00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:32.840 using guilt to target audiences. Daddy, you forgot every litter 1073 00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:36.800 Every litter bit hurts, Susan warned in one ad. Every 1074 00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:39.960 litter bit hurts became one of the most popular slogans 1075 00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:40.559 of the era. 1076 00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:44.960 Yeah, they had their own. Uh what's that chick? How 1077 00:56:45.079 --> 00:56:46.599 dare you? Was that? 1078 00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:49.679 Oh shit, Greta thumber To Thumberg. 1079 00:56:49.719 --> 00:56:53.280 Yeah yeah, yeah. So just so everybody's clear, Greta Thunberg 1080 00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:56.320 was also created. Now I'm gonna say created by her parents. 1081 00:56:56.360 --> 00:56:58.199 I don't mean like they fucked and had a kid 1082 00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:00.920 about it, like okay, No, I'm saying her being this 1083 00:57:01.079 --> 00:57:04.519 poster child for you took my future. How thank you? Yeah, 1084 00:57:04.519 --> 00:57:06.599 I'm saying it like that because she's you know, retarded, 1085 00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:10.519 but anyway, so she was created by her parents to 1086 00:57:10.679 --> 00:57:14.280 be the fucking face of this movement, the exact same 1087 00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:18.039 way that Susan Spotless was created in nineteen sixty four. 1088 00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:21.280 It's literally a RNSOM repeat. There's nothing new under the. 1089 00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:25.000 Sun, nothing ever new. It's just taken it. It's taken 1090 00:57:25.039 --> 00:57:27.719 mister coach Clin's playbook and calling it your plays is 1091 00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:28.599 really what's going on. 1092 00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:33.199 That's it, dude. Now. The Beautifications campaign's purpose was to 1093 00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:38.639 make glittering an individual not corporate problem. Okay. The efforts 1094 00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:40.960 of CAB and the AD Council paid off. While the 1095 00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:44.239 public assumed responsibility for the waste piling up, The packaging 1096 00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:49.079 industry watched as sales of disposable containers skyrocketed three percent 1097 00:57:49.119 --> 00:57:52.920 in nineteen sixty jumped to twelve percent of total container 1098 00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:56.559 sales in nineteen sixty six. The rates continued to spike 1099 00:57:56.599 --> 00:57:59.119 from there. So never mind the fact that what they 1100 00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:02.079 were buying was really the cause of the problem, they 1101 00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:05.119 just kept buying more, okay. Framing the litter problem as 1102 00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:08.280 disrespectful to the American landscape and calling those who don't 1103 00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:12.159 clean up after themselves litter bugs allowed these industries to 1104 00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:15.559 evade responsibility for the roles they played in the manufacture 1105 00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:18.480 of disposable containers. Is a direct quote here. This is 1106 00:58:18.480 --> 00:58:22.280 from the ad the campaign manager David Hart after a 1107 00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:25.719 nineteen sixty seven CAB meeting. Direct quote here. There seemed 1108 00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:29.480 to be a mutual agreement that our soft cell quote 1109 00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:33.039 unquote used in previous years could now be replaced by 1110 00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:36.239 a more emphatic approach to the problem. By saying that 1111 00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:40.280 those who litter are slobs. Oh, CAB was, Oh yeah, 1112 00:58:40.920 --> 00:58:44.320 they shifted the entire narrative and they got the culture 1113 00:58:44.440 --> 00:58:47.159 on it. Now you get looked at like a psycho 1114 00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:51.079 for littering, which again I'm not saying that littering is good, 1115 00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:53.039 but I'm saying instead of just kind of seeing it 1116 00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:56.039 and be like that fucking guy and walking away, they 1117 00:58:56.039 --> 00:58:58.800 were making it like a war on the litter bugs. 1118 00:58:58.840 --> 00:59:01.119 That's like somebody wearing a mask hat and everybody else 1119 00:59:01.159 --> 00:59:04.079 who is anti MAGA, assuming that that person wearing the 1120 00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:06.639 MAGA hat is a racist, bigoted pedophile. 1121 00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:11.639 Yes, same thing, one hundred percent. CAB was careful to 1122 00:59:11.719 --> 00:59:14.800 keep the bottles and cans produced by its sponsors out 1123 00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:19.039 of ad council campaigns, which continued to use children to 1124 00:59:19.079 --> 00:59:22.800 evoke emotional responses and viewers. Another direct quote here. Litter 1125 00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:26.239 is not pretty, litter is not healthy, litter is not clean, 1126 00:59:26.840 --> 00:59:32.000 litter is not American. Yeah, that's how they rolled it. 1127 00:59:32.039 --> 00:59:34.440 Man and the people bought it hook line and sinker. 1128 00:59:34.960 --> 00:59:39.000 A year after CAB was founded, Vermont banned non reusable 1129 00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:42.679 beverage containers in nineteen fifty three. Vermont became the first 1130 00:59:42.719 --> 00:59:46.880 state to ban non reusable beverages. Single use packaging was 1131 00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:50.000 in its infancy, and the industry is responsible for it 1132 00:59:50.039 --> 00:59:54.719 anticipated monumental profits from phasing out reusable containers. These same 1133 00:59:54.800 --> 00:59:57.920 companies came together to form CAB a few months after 1134 00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:00.639 Vermont's law was passed. See, they are already could see 1135 01:00:00.639 --> 01:00:02.800 the writing on the walls, and they thought that there 1136 01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:06.000 would be some do gooders out there who actually care, 1137 01:00:06.599 --> 01:00:09.239 that would make it to where you can't use you know, 1138 01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:12.079 these these single use bottles. So they wanted to get 1139 01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:13.559 ahead of it and shift the narrative. 1140 01:00:13.639 --> 01:00:15.480 You know, it's funny too, And I brought it up, 1141 01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:18.360 you know, a couple of shows ago. But I was 1142 01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:23.039 I had heard somebody made mention about how uh because 1143 01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:26.159 we've always heard that you're not supposed to refill your 1144 01:00:26.159 --> 01:00:28.639 water bottles. Like let's say you got a Dasani or 1145 01:00:28.679 --> 01:00:31.480 Aquafina or Walmart water bottle or whatever, you're not supposed 1146 01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:33.719 to reuse them because there's going to be extra plastic 1147 01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:37.199 in there that you're that you're taking out. And it's like, dude, 1148 01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:41.639 that's literally the fucking the the the water companies and 1149 01:00:41.679 --> 01:00:44.280 the coke companies and all of them saying like, yeah, 1150 01:00:44.320 --> 01:00:47.159 don't refill it because they want you to continue buying 1151 01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:49.880 more water. If you buy a twenty four pack of 1152 01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:53.119 Dasani or whatever, and whenever you're done, you refill it 1153 01:00:53.239 --> 01:00:56.039 with your sink water or with whatever your filtered water 1154 01:00:56.079 --> 01:00:58.639 situation is, and you just put it back in there. Well, 1155 01:00:58.639 --> 01:01:01.280 that's going to be losing the the company's more money, 1156 01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:04.719 so of course they're going to say that refilling the 1157 01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:10.559 recyclable or disposable water bottle is worse for you, right, Like, 1158 01:01:10.599 --> 01:01:12.599 it's all fucking manipulation. 1159 01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:16.880 So we're gonna give this. I'm with you right now. 1160 01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:19.639 Let's do a little thought experiment. You and I right 1161 01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:21.599 now and all the good cult members listening, do this 1162 01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:26.559 on your own, Okay, Let's say you grab Adasani water bottle, okay, 1163 01:01:27.079 --> 01:01:30.280 and you drink the contents of said water bottle, and 1164 01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:32.320 then you refill it, and you are of the belief 1165 01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:35.719 that refilling it is somehow going to leach harmful chemicals 1166 01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:38.719 from the plastic to your body, and so that's why 1167 01:01:38.719 --> 01:01:42.159 they tell you not to reuse it. Okay. How long 1168 01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:44.840 do you think it was that that bottle of water 1169 01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:48.079 that you just drank was in that bottle from the 1170 01:01:48.119 --> 01:01:52.280 manufacturing facility onto a pallette or into a case, then 1171 01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:55.159 onto a pallet, then into the back of an eighteen 1172 01:01:55.239 --> 01:01:58.280 willer to the store where you bought it. Who knows 1173 01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:00.159 how long it was in the back, how long was 1174 01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:02.519 on the shelf? How long all of these things, and 1175 01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:06.000 then for you to drink it. Do you think somehow 1176 01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:09.639 that that was a week a day or do you 1177 01:02:09.639 --> 01:02:13.079 think it probably was more like six months time? Okay? 1178 01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:15.119 Yeah, Well, and then you also got the sun beaten 1179 01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:17.519 down on them too. If they're sitting outside. 1180 01:02:17.480 --> 01:02:21.320 Exactly now, the chemicals that were leached from the plastic 1181 01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:24.360 to the water you just drink them that they have 1182 01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:27.199 gotten way more leached in the weeks building up to 1183 01:02:27.239 --> 01:02:30.159 you cracking that bottle open. Well, it was sealed. That's 1184 01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:32.519 not what I just said. It was sealed within plastic, 1185 01:02:32.599 --> 01:02:34.559 which we're gonna talk about a theory to have on 1186 01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:37.519 plastic in a bit. But beside the point you refilling 1187 01:02:37.559 --> 01:02:40.880 it and then drinking it right behind that, we're talking 1188 01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:43.519 about a hangtime here of a day or two in 1189 01:02:43.559 --> 01:02:46.400 a plastic bottle as opposed to a hangtime of weeks 1190 01:02:46.519 --> 01:02:50.320 in that same bottle. I'm sorry, that's fucking retarded. 1191 01:02:49.960 --> 01:02:53.159 And it's probably better for you to buy a bottle 1192 01:02:53.239 --> 01:02:55.679 of aquafina if you're going that route. I mean, I 1193 01:02:55.719 --> 01:02:57.880 know a lot of people aren't drinking you know, water 1194 01:02:57.960 --> 01:03:01.280 from plastic bottles anymore. You probably should if you can't, 1195 01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:04.639 or if you can, right, but if you do, it's 1196 01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:07.960 probably better for you to like literally take that fucking bottle, 1197 01:03:08.079 --> 01:03:10.079 open it up, dump it on the ground, and refill 1198 01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:13.159 it with hose water. It's probably safer for you. I 1199 01:03:13.199 --> 01:03:16.159 am personally of the belief that you just said correct things. 1200 01:03:16.239 --> 01:03:19.960 And also that's just me, and also Dasani. Nobody should 1201 01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:22.400 ever be drinking Dasani. Just to let you know, it 1202 01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:27.039 is a Coca Cola company, and the reason, dude, they 1203 01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:28.760 do a lot of crazy shit to that water. So 1204 01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:31.280 one they add a lot of salt. So do you 1205 01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:33.800 keep on wanting to drink more and more and more, 1206 01:03:34.199 --> 01:03:37.280 And yeah, we need our electrolytes and we need our 1207 01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:39.599 salts and everything. But that's not the reason they do it. 1208 01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:42.639 That's almost like you know, your public water saying that 1209 01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:44.960 we put fluoride in your water to help your teeth. 1210 01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:47.599 That's not the reason, you know, it's they don't give 1211 01:03:47.639 --> 01:03:49.880 a fuck about your health. And the same thing goes 1212 01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:52.239 with why they're putting salt in it. It's one to 1213 01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:56.199 preserve and also and it'll also help like you know, 1214 01:03:56.239 --> 01:03:58.719 get rid of any kind of mold or whatever that 1215 01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:01.559 may develop in there or whatever over the course of time. 1216 01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:05.440 But it's like it's it's it's causing you to want 1217 01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:07.639 to go back and drink and drink and drink more. 1218 01:04:07.719 --> 01:04:11.920 It's wanting to turn you into a return customer more 1219 01:04:11.960 --> 01:04:14.880 often by adding more salt to the water. So Dsani, 1220 01:04:15.039 --> 01:04:17.920 by and large, is one of the worst waters that 1221 01:04:17.960 --> 01:04:18.480 you can buy. 1222 01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:22.559 Well, I agree, but also keep in mind smart water, 1223 01:04:22.840 --> 01:04:27.480 it's still a plastic bottle aquafina, uh name. It doesn't 1224 01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:30.679 matter all of them. Kent would all of these, even 1225 01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:34.320 the natural spring water bottles that you're buying in a disposable, 1226 01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:39.320 single use plastic bottle, it's all pretty much the same thing. 1227 01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:43.000 They're using the exact same type of plastic. And although well, 1228 01:04:43.039 --> 01:04:45.719 this water was from a spring, this water was from 1229 01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:48.199 a distillation unit. That's why it's smart water. It's like 1230 01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:51.519 from the clouds. It's H two. Oh is h two? 1231 01:04:51.519 --> 01:04:54.280 Oh is H two? Oh Okay, I'm very sorry to 1232 01:04:54.280 --> 01:04:56.719 be the one to be to break the news to y'all. 1233 01:04:57.079 --> 01:05:00.280 If it's from a single use plastic bottle, it's not 1234 01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:02.239 good for you regardless, But we're gonna get you. 1235 01:05:02.440 --> 01:05:04.480 I mean, And what's that death water that you like? 1236 01:05:04.599 --> 01:05:06.679 What's that one with liquid death? Okay, that's out of 1237 01:05:06.719 --> 01:05:07.639 an aluminum can. 1238 01:05:07.719 --> 01:05:11.719 Probably those are recyclable, right and so okay, Like, if 1239 01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:14.199 you're gonna go that route, drink those, but those are 1240 01:05:14.199 --> 01:05:18.639 still single use. Meanwhile, you can buy a water filter 1241 01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:22.239 at your house and get gallons of the shit. Oh 1242 01:05:22.239 --> 01:05:22.760 it's just me. 1243 01:05:23.119 --> 01:05:25.880 I mean, and I know that the water filters. I 1244 01:05:25.920 --> 01:05:29.760 have two of those Britta like gallon tanks and it's 1245 01:05:29.800 --> 01:05:31.920 not the best. I mean, you could always do better. 1246 01:05:31.960 --> 01:05:32.119 I know. 1247 01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:34.480 People talk about the there's this one filter it's called 1248 01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:36.800 the Murky Water filter or something like that, that is 1249 01:05:36.800 --> 01:05:39.599 said to get rid of all of the chemicals, including 1250 01:05:39.639 --> 01:05:43.480 the floor ride. But you know, not everybody has an 1251 01:05:43.519 --> 01:05:47.079 extra fucking twenty five hundred dollars to install a filtration system. 1252 01:05:47.159 --> 01:05:48.599 So you gotta do what you gotta do. 1253 01:05:49.039 --> 01:05:51.400 But understand that bottles are just the tip of the iceberg. 1254 01:05:51.480 --> 01:05:54.639 How many things do we buy that are in plastic 1255 01:05:54.639 --> 01:05:59.159 wrapping or even at the store. You're buying your own groceries. 1256 01:05:58.679 --> 01:06:02.119 Most things those things meet. You're going to buy meat 1257 01:06:02.119 --> 01:06:04.280 from your local butcher, you're still giving it on a 1258 01:06:04.320 --> 01:06:07.280 styrofoam plate wrapped in cell a phane. 1259 01:06:07.719 --> 01:06:10.480 It's plastic on plastic. So it's not just the bottles. 1260 01:06:10.519 --> 01:06:12.360 Don't think we're just sitting on the Coca Cola and 1261 01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:16.360 bottling industries, although they are a really big culprit. There 1262 01:06:16.360 --> 01:06:18.679 are so many different avenues to go down here. We 1263 01:06:18.760 --> 01:06:21.159 are literally just at the tip of this iceberg. But 1264 01:06:21.559 --> 01:06:23.199 back to the whole conversation here. 1265 01:06:23.239 --> 01:06:26.320 So you want to jump back into reading, Yeah. 1266 01:06:26.199 --> 01:06:28.440 Yeah, I'll take it on this one. So, like I said, 1267 01:06:28.599 --> 01:06:33.679 Vermont was the first state to outlaw non reusable water bottles, 1268 01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:36.440 and they didn't want that. They wanted reuse or they 1269 01:06:36.519 --> 01:06:39.159 wanted single use bottles to be the way they needed 1270 01:06:39.159 --> 01:06:41.199 this to be because it was better for them for 1271 01:06:41.280 --> 01:06:43.719 profit margins. So they had to get ahead of this, 1272 01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:47.039 which is why they started the entire ad agency in 1273 01:06:47.039 --> 01:06:49.960 the first place to lobby against this shit. Afraid the 1274 01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:52.559 train would spread to other states, executives from CAV got 1275 01:06:52.559 --> 01:06:57.800 to work defining their new nonprofit as a beautification organization, 1276 01:06:58.280 --> 01:07:01.000 aiming to educate the masses about how to clean up 1277 01:07:01.039 --> 01:07:03.880 all the trash around them. Behind the scenes, CAB members 1278 01:07:03.880 --> 01:07:08.119 squashed bills that sought to eliminate single use products. They succeeded, 1279 01:07:08.159 --> 01:07:12.599 and four years later Vermont's law lapsed. As the plastics 1280 01:07:12.639 --> 01:07:15.920 industry grew and merged with the beverage and manufacturing world 1281 01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:19.440 in the mid nineteen fifties, the chance to capitalize off 1282 01:07:19.480 --> 01:07:25.079 the mounds of non biodegradable refuse began scattering or scattered 1283 01:07:25.119 --> 01:07:28.719 around the planet became more and more alluring. At a 1284 01:07:28.760 --> 01:07:32.440 plastics conference around this time, one speaker looked out at 1285 01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:36.599 the audience and proclaimed, your future is in the garbage wagon. 1286 01:07:38.840 --> 01:07:39.239 Wow. 1287 01:07:39.360 --> 01:07:44.039 A plastics conference said that your future is in the 1288 01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:46.840 garbage wagon, basically saying that if we want to continue 1289 01:07:46.840 --> 01:07:50.239 making that money, we need to get heavily involved with 1290 01:07:50.480 --> 01:07:52.679 plastics and we're going to talk about why that's more 1291 01:07:52.719 --> 01:07:56.639 economical than recycling later, which is crazy at the fact 1292 01:07:56.639 --> 01:08:00.559 that they knew that recycling was not like scalable and 1293 01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:04.159 they still ran with it. Anyway, to continue the narrative, 1294 01:08:04.159 --> 01:08:05.119 we're going to get to it all. 1295 01:08:05.199 --> 01:08:07.920 Well, yeah, they want the public to be seen as 1296 01:08:07.960 --> 01:08:11.800 the sinners essentially, so that they are not being looked 1297 01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:16.439 at as the people who are essentially the root cause 1298 01:08:16.600 --> 01:08:20.199 of everything, of all this pollution and everything. So yeah, 1299 01:08:20.239 --> 01:08:24.600 So when state legislators began pushing bottle bills in the 1300 01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:29.479 early nineteen seventies, CAB publicly opposed them. In nineteen seventy two, 1301 01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:34.720 Oregon and Vermont passed bottle bills, which incentivize consumers to 1302 01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:37.760 return their bottles to recycling centers by providing a five 1303 01:08:37.880 --> 01:08:41.960 cent return per item. When California began moving toward its 1304 01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:44.920 own bottle bill in nineteen seventy four, CAB decided to 1305 01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:48.720 publicly oppose these measures. After a story leaked about American 1306 01:08:48.760 --> 01:08:53.720 Can Company chairman William F. May calling bottle bill supporters 1307 01:08:53.880 --> 01:08:58.199 communists at it's always somebody calling somebody a communist. 1308 01:08:58.279 --> 01:09:00.600 Oh dude, during the Cold War, that was that was 1309 01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:03.640 a cuss. To call someone a kami is basically saying 1310 01:09:03.680 --> 01:09:06.319 that you're not even human, because I still believe that 1311 01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:08.760 commies aren't humans actually, but neither here nor. 1312 01:09:08.680 --> 01:09:13.079 There anyhow, So he called the bottle bill supporters communists 1313 01:09:13.079 --> 01:09:16.159 At a CAB Board of Directors meeting in nineteen seventy six, 1314 01:09:16.359 --> 01:09:20.439 the Environmental Protection Agency or the EPA, and seven environmental 1315 01:09:20.439 --> 01:09:24.359 groups left the CAB non Corporate Advisory Board. That November, 1316 01:09:24.479 --> 01:09:27.920 bottle bills passed in Michigan and Maine. Even though ten 1317 01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:30.199 states in total were able to pass bottle bills that 1318 01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:33.399 are active to this day, CAB still achieved its goal 1319 01:09:33.520 --> 01:09:37.880 of directing the conversation away from whether or not disposables 1320 01:09:37.920 --> 01:09:40.720 were good for the public to begin with. CAB continues 1321 01:09:40.760 --> 01:09:44.399 to oppose bottle bill efforts, and it invested fourteen million 1322 01:09:44.439 --> 01:09:47.640 dollars between nineteen eighty nine and nineteen ninety four to 1323 01:09:47.720 --> 01:09:49.640 defeat the National bottle Bill. 1324 01:09:50.560 --> 01:09:52.319 So, if you ever look at one of your cans 1325 01:09:52.760 --> 01:09:54.520 right just throwing out it's a bottle bill, but it 1326 01:09:54.560 --> 01:09:57.359 also goes for other recycles, there will be a list 1327 01:09:57.840 --> 01:10:00.800 of cities or states, I should say, where you can 1328 01:10:00.840 --> 01:10:04.079 recycle it for a certain amount of money, usually five cents, 1329 01:10:04.119 --> 01:10:07.039 ten cents, whatever the case is. There's a reason why 1330 01:10:07.079 --> 01:10:10.239 there's only certain states where that's actually a thing, and 1331 01:10:10.279 --> 01:10:13.279 why most states just send it to the landfill regardless, 1332 01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:16.640 or to other places that we will get into. But yeah, 1333 01:10:16.720 --> 01:10:19.600 that was all done by a lobbying group and an 1334 01:10:19.640 --> 01:10:21.920 ad campaign group. Absolutely. 1335 01:10:22.039 --> 01:10:25.359 Now it's funny because if you look, you know, especially 1336 01:10:25.399 --> 01:10:28.319 at like the bottles, it'll say, you know, if you 1337 01:10:28.359 --> 01:10:30.439 bring it to California, if you bring it to Maine, 1338 01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:33.560 and those are always like the two big states or 1339 01:10:33.600 --> 01:10:36.319 the two main states that I remember, California and Maine, 1340 01:10:36.439 --> 01:10:39.239 which makes sense because that was two of the original 1341 01:10:39.319 --> 01:10:43.680 ten of the bottle bill bill. Absolutely, and even to 1342 01:10:43.720 --> 01:10:47.119 further that point, during this timeframe, do you you remember 1343 01:10:47.119 --> 01:10:50.720 watching The Sandlot Right? Of course that movie was shot 1344 01:10:50.800 --> 01:10:52.920 in the early nineties, but it was based in the 1345 01:10:52.960 --> 01:10:54.359 fifties or maybe the sixties. 1346 01:10:54.359 --> 01:10:56.199 I forget around which time frame, but it was back 1347 01:10:56.199 --> 01:10:58.720 in these days. When he hit the Babe Ruth ball 1348 01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:01.479 over the fence, they they had to make a replica 1349 01:11:01.520 --> 01:11:03.159 to put on the shelf until they could figure out 1350 01:11:03.159 --> 01:11:04.520 a way to get the ball back from the beasts. 1351 01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:06.960 The whole nine Yeah, what it Beennie the jet Rodriguez 1352 01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:09.399 tell them. He's like, all right, guys, go and get 1353 01:11:09.439 --> 01:11:11.560 all the bottles and cash them in. We need ninety 1354 01:11:11.600 --> 01:11:14.079 eight cents. We got to buy us a ball. You 1355 01:11:14.119 --> 01:11:17.039 could go and cash in bottles at that time to 1356 01:11:17.079 --> 01:11:19.319 get a few cents, and you could use it for things. 1357 01:11:20.119 --> 01:11:22.840 That was a thing then, that is in certain states 1358 01:11:22.880 --> 01:11:25.560 that is still a thing. It's not a thing everywhere. 1359 01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:28.159 Yeah, most of the time, it's just people that are 1360 01:11:28.720 --> 01:11:31.880 going around collecting aluminum and metal products. They're not even 1361 01:11:31.880 --> 01:11:34.239 so much worried about glass or anything like that anymore. 1362 01:11:34.720 --> 01:11:37.199 And honestly, they're going to a scrap yard to get 1363 01:11:37.399 --> 01:11:40.079 weight for the aluminum. And it's not a lot. But 1364 01:11:40.279 --> 01:11:42.399 you know, if you're a homeless guy who's trying to 1365 01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:45.079 get your drinking money for the day, you can collect 1366 01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:47.840 five trash bags of cans off the side of the 1367 01:11:47.920 --> 01:11:50.199 road and bring them in. You can get you literally 1368 01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:52.520 a few dollars to go buy you a bottle of 1369 01:11:52.560 --> 01:11:54.520 oe for the evening, Like I get it. 1370 01:11:55.159 --> 01:11:57.439 Unless you get your hands on some copper you. 1371 01:11:57.359 --> 01:12:02.039 Know, well, yeah, scrapping copper is way more useful in 1372 01:12:02.039 --> 01:12:04.840 that regard, which, again not a shameless plug. We might 1373 01:12:04.880 --> 01:12:07.800 as well. We will be having these gorgeous Cult of 1374 01:12:07.880 --> 01:12:12.600 Conspiracy copper coins available at cocsilver dot com. If you 1375 01:12:12.640 --> 01:12:14.119 would like to get your start in the buying and 1376 01:12:14.159 --> 01:12:16.760 selling and trading of gold and silver bullion, then come 1377 01:12:16.840 --> 01:12:18.960 check us out at cocsilver dot com. The link is 1378 01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:21.000 of the description below. Listen, we're not telling you to 1379 01:12:21.079 --> 01:12:24.039 go scrap silver or scrap copper. What we are saying 1380 01:12:24.119 --> 01:12:26.840 is that these precious metals are going to retain the 1381 01:12:26.920 --> 01:12:30.319 value regardless because they are something that is valuable and useful. Silver, 1382 01:12:30.479 --> 01:12:34.880 especially right, gold has always maintained a value. Silver there 1383 01:12:34.920 --> 01:12:37.039 is a finite amount of it, and we are losing 1384 01:12:37.119 --> 01:12:40.079 it every day. Every time a Tomahawk missile goes off, 1385 01:12:40.119 --> 01:12:42.800 the Earth loses five hundred dollars worth of silver because 1386 01:12:42.800 --> 01:12:45.520 of all the electrical components that are within that missile system. 1387 01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:48.119 And I'm not saying that we're just sending missiles NonStop, 1388 01:12:48.159 --> 01:12:50.000 but at the same time, silver is used in a 1389 01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:52.720 lot of electrical components, so there is an intrinsic value 1390 01:12:52.720 --> 01:12:56.399 to it aside from what the market says, it is right. 1391 01:12:56.800 --> 01:12:58.279 If you would like to get your hands on some 1392 01:12:58.359 --> 01:13:01.600 silver and gold before it is way too expensive to 1393 01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:04.199 even fathom getting your hands on, then come check us 1394 01:13:04.199 --> 01:13:06.319 out ccsilver dot com again. The link is in the 1395 01:13:06.319 --> 01:13:09.000 description below, And thank you all the good cult members 1396 01:13:09.039 --> 01:13:10.600 that have gone and done so and taken a little 1397 01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:13.439 bit of your financial future into your own hands. More 1398 01:13:13.479 --> 01:13:16.399 and more of y'all are getting on and getting involved 1399 01:13:16.439 --> 01:13:18.319 with this, and I am so proud of y'all. 1400 01:13:18.600 --> 01:13:20.800 Hell yeah, shout out to the good cult members out there. 1401 01:13:20.840 --> 01:13:24.199 It is one of the best future moves that you 1402 01:13:24.239 --> 01:13:26.920 can make without a doubt, because then is that it 1403 01:13:27.039 --> 01:13:29.600 never it's not gonna lose value. It is kept its 1404 01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:34.800 value or gotten better in value since the beginning of time. 1405 01:13:35.039 --> 01:13:37.359 Could argue, you could argue, right, bro. 1406 01:13:37.279 --> 01:13:39.119 There are so many people that are getting to retirement 1407 01:13:39.159 --> 01:13:42.399 age right now that are unable to retire because the 1408 01:13:42.439 --> 01:13:44.600 market is just what it is and maybe some of 1409 01:13:44.640 --> 01:13:47.560 their investments didn't do well for them, or whatever the 1410 01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:49.319 case is. You have more and more people that are 1411 01:13:49.359 --> 01:13:51.079 making the decision that they're gonna have to work till 1412 01:13:51.079 --> 01:13:53.359 they die, and that's just what it is Oh, they 1413 01:13:53.399 --> 01:13:56.840 could just draw Social Security. Bro That system is already 1414 01:13:56.880 --> 01:13:59.760 starting to go belly up, and the baby boomer generation 1415 01:13:59.840 --> 01:14:02.319 is going to absolutely bankrupt it. Now. I'm not selling 1416 01:14:02.439 --> 01:14:04.319 all the good cult members to put all of their 1417 01:14:04.399 --> 01:14:08.239 eggs in the silver and gold basket, but every single 1418 01:14:08.359 --> 01:14:11.039 financial advisor will tell you that you need to have 1419 01:14:11.159 --> 01:14:15.680 a diverse portfolio, and every single financial advisor that's worth 1420 01:14:15.720 --> 01:14:18.720 a fuck will tell you to at least have something 1421 01:14:18.880 --> 01:14:22.880 in precious metals. Okay, it's still affordable, right now, do 1422 01:14:23.079 --> 01:14:26.479 your future self a favor and invest. We have a 1423 01:14:26.520 --> 01:14:30.439 good deal going on with seven k Cocsilver dot com 1424 01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:31.920 is where you can go and get. 1425 01:14:31.800 --> 01:14:35.720 Your start anyway, fucking name thanks plugover all, right, getting 1426 01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:39.000 back to it, So, CAB collaborated with the US Brewers 1427 01:14:39.039 --> 01:14:43.079 Association to create the Clean Community System In nineteen seventy five, 1428 01:14:43.720 --> 01:14:46.560 while the bottled bill debate was in full swing, CAB 1429 01:14:46.640 --> 01:14:49.039 decided to establish a program that could be introduced in 1430 01:14:49.079 --> 01:14:52.800 communities as an alternative to these bills. The Clean Community 1431 01:14:52.840 --> 01:14:56.720 System concerned about the possibility that environmental groups would use 1432 01:14:56.800 --> 01:14:59.359 the momentum gained by the bottle bills to push for 1433 01:14:59.479 --> 01:15:05.359 packaging regulations CAB member the US Brewers Association proposed the 1434 01:15:05.399 --> 01:15:08.079 idea of a community program to tackle litter control in 1435 01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:10.880 nineteen seventy five. It was introduced to the public in 1436 01:15:10.920 --> 01:15:15.479 seventy six, and communities across the nation signed on, believing 1437 01:15:15.479 --> 01:15:18.760 they were participating in an act of public good. Before 1438 01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:22.520 resigning from the CAB board in seventy six, EPA member 1439 01:15:22.600 --> 01:15:25.279 Thomas Williams wrote a memo about his concerns over the 1440 01:15:25.319 --> 01:15:29.039 Clean Community System, insisting its purpose was to focus the 1441 01:15:29.079 --> 01:15:33.479 attention of hundreds of communities on anti litter campaigns. When 1442 01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:38.000 successfully inaugurated, it tends to abort any local efforts to 1443 01:15:38.039 --> 01:15:42.439 institute beverage container deposit systems, placing emphasis on these street 1444 01:15:42.479 --> 01:15:47.600 cleaning and other litter control activities. Through the Clean Community System, 1445 01:15:47.880 --> 01:15:52.119 CAB pushed several substitutions for bottle bills. One such option 1446 01:15:52.359 --> 01:15:55.800 was a litter tax, a nominal tax on manufacturers and 1447 01:15:55.840 --> 01:15:59.960 retailers used to fund litter clean up organizations and participating Still, 1448 01:16:00.720 --> 01:16:03.560 critics felt these clean up groups were put in place 1449 01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:06.680 to make the package and beverage industries appear to be 1450 01:16:06.720 --> 01:16:10.600 taking action against pollution when they were actually doing very little. 1451 01:16:10.920 --> 01:16:15.199 One of one president of Nebraska Sierra Club in the 1452 01:16:15.239 --> 01:16:19.079 seventies summarized his feeling by writing in quotes, I'm tired 1453 01:16:19.079 --> 01:16:21.800 of pumping money into front organizations whose goal is to 1454 01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:25.760 educate and plant flowers. My ditch is filled with cans 1455 01:16:25.760 --> 01:16:30.399 and bottles. Legislation mandating deposits would stop litter before it starts, 1456 01:16:30.640 --> 01:16:32.680 but CAB never supported the bottle bill. 1457 01:16:33.680 --> 01:16:37.800 So when they could have put more emphasis on the 1458 01:16:37.960 --> 01:16:42.399 recycle spots right the actual buildings and the infrastructure to 1459 01:16:42.399 --> 01:16:44.880 where people could go out of their way to recycle 1460 01:16:44.920 --> 01:16:46.840 these things because they want to be good, they want 1461 01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:49.680 to be virtuous, they want to fight the litter problem. Instead, 1462 01:16:50.079 --> 01:16:52.399 they just put it towards more ads and more optics 1463 01:16:52.399 --> 01:16:55.560 to make it appear like they were doing things. In reality, 1464 01:16:55.600 --> 01:16:58.439 they were doing little to nothing to help the situation. 1465 01:16:58.520 --> 01:17:01.239 But anytime there was a group doing something, oh, it 1466 01:17:01.319 --> 01:17:03.159 was a perfect time for a photo op, wasn't it. 1467 01:17:03.760 --> 01:17:07.600 Oh yeah, of course. So by the nineteen sixties, CAB 1468 01:17:07.680 --> 01:17:11.680 claimed seventy million members. The ad Council and CAB began 1469 01:17:11.760 --> 01:17:14.880 to look beyond advertising in the late nineteen sixties, supporting 1470 01:17:14.920 --> 01:17:18.560 actions like collections programs or trash pickups and parks around 1471 01:17:18.600 --> 01:17:22.359 the country. These publicly funded initiatives were supported by environmental 1472 01:17:22.600 --> 01:17:25.439 organizations across the board, most of which believed that they 1473 01:17:25.439 --> 01:17:28.920 were participating in an important collective movement to save the environment. 1474 01:17:29.239 --> 01:17:32.720 During the nineteen sixties, CABS membership reached seventy million people, 1475 01:17:33.039 --> 01:17:38.319 a third of Americans at the time. Damn a third, dude. 1476 01:17:38.159 --> 01:17:41.239 The Council did a very good job of spreading the word, 1477 01:17:41.319 --> 01:17:45.279 and people were joining again, thinking and believing that they 1478 01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:47.560 were trying to help the problem. 1479 01:17:48.359 --> 01:17:53.479 Yeah. So membership ranged from individuals to municipalities to private businesses. 1480 01:17:53.640 --> 01:17:56.560 In nineteen sixty five, Old Lady Bird Johnson, the first 1481 01:17:56.680 --> 01:18:00.840 Lady publicly expressed her support for a Highway Beautiful project, 1482 01:18:01.079 --> 01:18:04.319 telling Americans in her quotes, ours is a blessed and 1483 01:18:04.359 --> 01:18:07.000 beautiful land, but much of it has been tarnished. What 1484 01:18:07.119 --> 01:18:09.920 can you do? Look around you, at the littered roadside, 1485 01:18:09.960 --> 01:18:13.000 at the polluted stream, the decayed city center. We need 1486 01:18:13.159 --> 01:18:16.640 urgently to restore the beauty of our land. How many 1487 01:18:16.640 --> 01:18:20.840 of you have ever seen the adopt a highway posters? Right, 1488 01:18:20.840 --> 01:18:21.359 I thought about it. 1489 01:18:21.479 --> 01:18:23.560 Or you're driving down a highway and you say, this 1490 01:18:23.680 --> 01:18:27.960 highway was adopted by this VFW hall this boy Scout troop, 1491 01:18:28.279 --> 01:18:31.880 this Masonic lodge, whatever the case was. All of this 1492 01:18:32.760 --> 01:18:34.560 was done in this attempt. 1493 01:18:35.239 --> 01:18:37.520 Could you imagine cult of conspiracy highway. 1494 01:18:37.880 --> 01:18:40.359 Let's fucking well. I mean, sometimes they'll name the highway 1495 01:18:40.399 --> 01:18:42.640 after whoever did it, but typically you just get a 1496 01:18:42.680 --> 01:18:45.800 sign saying this highway was adopted by this group. And 1497 01:18:45.880 --> 01:18:48.399 yet it's advertisement And yes it's great for the optics, 1498 01:18:48.800 --> 01:18:50.840 but at the same time, all that is is free 1499 01:18:50.880 --> 01:18:53.239 litter cleanup that the government doesn't have to pay for, 1500 01:18:53.560 --> 01:18:56.840 and it does nothing to actually stop the mass production 1501 01:18:57.039 --> 01:18:59.560 of the materials that's being littered in the first fucking place. 1502 01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:03.119 I know that road and this is just for people 1503 01:19:03.119 --> 01:19:07.039 who might be living in Louisiana, Uh, mainly Ascension Parish, 1504 01:19:07.279 --> 01:19:10.239 but you you know that road that's right on side 1505 01:19:10.359 --> 01:19:14.399 of Domino's. It's called Ascension Parish Road or some shit 1506 01:19:14.439 --> 01:19:15.680 in Praieval off a airline. 1507 01:19:16.119 --> 01:19:16.560 Yeah. 1508 01:19:16.680 --> 01:19:19.319 I always thought about just like reaching out and being 1509 01:19:19.359 --> 01:19:21.000 like that is such a bland name. How much would 1510 01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:23.159 it cost just to buy that little road? It's I mean, 1511 01:19:23.199 --> 01:19:25.479 it ain't but a quarter mile, you know what I'm saying, 1512 01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:27.840 Like it would be cool to just rename that instead 1513 01:19:27.880 --> 01:19:30.239 of Ascension Parish Road. How fucking boring, you know what 1514 01:19:30.279 --> 01:19:32.960 I mean? I wonder how much that would cost. Maybe 1515 01:19:32.960 --> 01:19:35.079 a couple grand I don't know. 1516 01:19:35.199 --> 01:19:38.840 I've never looked into renaming a street to see, like 1517 01:19:38.920 --> 01:19:42.079 whose palms you gotta grease to like make that happen. 1518 01:19:42.239 --> 01:19:45.439 But yeah, I mean maybe that'd look in it. 1519 01:19:45.800 --> 01:19:49.079 That would be awesome, and I would track down all 1520 01:19:49.079 --> 01:19:51.600 you litterbugs out there on our road. 1521 01:19:53.840 --> 01:19:55.479 Mine will be a clean highway. 1522 01:19:56.039 --> 01:19:58.960 Yeah buddy. If we gotta get a fucking uh crying 1523 01:20:00.039 --> 01:20:02.920 actor Indian to promote that, then we will. 1524 01:20:03.439 --> 01:20:05.680 Oh no, we're in Louisiana. We just get a crying cagun. 1525 01:20:05.760 --> 01:20:07.840 I know plenty of them that like, they don't cry. 1526 01:20:07.960 --> 01:20:10.239 But I could put a little gli call right there 1527 01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:12.279 by their eye, make it look or glister or whatever 1528 01:20:12.279 --> 01:20:14.279 it was, to make it look like they're crying. Ain't nothing, 1529 01:20:14.439 --> 01:20:17.079 that's a that's an eye dropper, away, dude, for clear 1530 01:20:17.159 --> 01:20:20.279 eyes for real, you know that's all. You just give 1531 01:20:20.279 --> 01:20:22.880 them some eyes for quick, just eye drops. They turn 1532 01:20:22.920 --> 01:20:25.680 and look like they're crying. Hey man, why'all put all 1533 01:20:25.680 --> 01:20:28.000 that trash on my road? Yeah? I could sell Oh 1534 01:20:28.039 --> 01:20:30.159 we got this. We could make this a thing. 1535 01:20:30.760 --> 01:20:32.920 Well, you know, it'd be even more funny too, is 1536 01:20:33.039 --> 01:20:35.680 like you know how the kuon asses they always trying 1537 01:20:35.680 --> 01:20:38.039 to make something into a pelt or something into a hat. 1538 01:20:38.279 --> 01:20:40.319 If we could just get them to like get on 1539 01:20:40.359 --> 01:20:41.760 the side of the road, like this will be our 1540 01:20:41.800 --> 01:20:43.520 commercial for it. They get on the side of the 1541 01:20:43.600 --> 01:20:46.000 road and they make like a milk carton hat that 1542 01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:50.760 they just rock around everywhere. That would be the most 1543 01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:52.359 Louisiana shit I've ever seen. 1544 01:20:52.800 --> 01:20:54.640 We have them pull up on a p row, you 1545 01:20:54.720 --> 01:20:56.680 know what I'm saying, They get out and somebody throws 1546 01:20:56.680 --> 01:20:58.640 a bunch of trash by their feet. Oh dude, we 1547 01:20:58.960 --> 01:21:02.399 could remake that add so much better and actually use 1548 01:21:02.439 --> 01:21:03.600 a real cage in for that shit. 1549 01:21:04.479 --> 01:21:06.920 Yeah yeah, Well, and we have a buddy in advertising too, 1550 01:21:06.920 --> 01:21:08.079 we might be able to make that happen. 1551 01:21:08.880 --> 01:21:10.439 Wait, we're gonna put a pin in that one. 1552 01:21:10.720 --> 01:21:11.840 Hell are you so? 1553 01:21:11.840 --> 01:21:13.720 Do I do this? If for nothing else, just to 1554 01:21:13.720 --> 01:21:15.760 throw it in the face of the recycling being such 1555 01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:18.920 a scam and, as we are learning right now, a 1556 01:21:19.000 --> 01:21:21.119 total fucking siop. So. 1557 01:21:21.479 --> 01:21:24.760 In the decades since the famous ad, cab has launched 1558 01:21:25.000 --> 01:21:29.359 new campaigns and initiatives across the country. As recycling rose 1559 01:21:29.399 --> 01:21:32.560 in popularity during the nineteen eighties, CAB transformed the Clean 1560 01:21:32.640 --> 01:21:37.359 Community System, which was renamed the Keep America Beautiful System, 1561 01:21:37.600 --> 01:21:40.960 from an anti littering initiative to a pro recycling one. 1562 01:21:41.319 --> 01:21:44.079 It was executed in more than four hundred cities, and 1563 01:21:44.199 --> 01:21:48.520 CABS founding or funding blossomed. The organization looked beyond beverage 1564 01:21:48.560 --> 01:21:52.920 and packing packaging industries for collaboration and started a partnership 1565 01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:56.000 with the waste disposal industry that persists into the present. 1566 01:21:56.439 --> 01:21:59.399 Since this shift, CAB remains careful about how it frames 1567 01:21:59.439 --> 01:22:03.560 its support recycling. When it launched the campaign Let's Not 1568 01:22:03.760 --> 01:22:06.520 Waste the nineteen nineties, that was the name of the campaign. 1569 01:22:06.840 --> 01:22:11.199 Instead of emphasizing the importance of recycling methods, CAB prep 1570 01:22:12.039 --> 01:22:15.640 CAB presented the public with five ways to tackle solid 1571 01:22:15.680 --> 01:22:21.680 waste excess source reduction, recycling, composting, incineration, and sanitary landfilling. 1572 01:22:22.039 --> 01:22:25.880 During a nineteen ninety three public video conference, CAB president 1573 01:22:26.079 --> 01:22:29.439 Roger Powers told people in quotes, while recycling can be 1574 01:22:29.439 --> 01:22:32.199 an important method of dealing with our waste in some communities, 1575 01:22:32.359 --> 01:22:35.119 it is not the only option in order to safely 1576 01:22:35.159 --> 01:22:38.439 and effectively manage trash. The public must be informed of 1577 01:22:38.520 --> 01:22:40.199 every alternative. 1578 01:22:40.279 --> 01:22:43.159 Real quick, real quick. Let's go over those five just 1579 01:22:43.159 --> 01:22:46.880 for a second. Here, source reduction, Well, what does that mean. 1580 01:22:47.640 --> 01:22:50.800 It means that the public will make a conscious effort 1581 01:22:50.920 --> 01:22:54.880 to produce less trash. Okay, all right, that's one. I'm 1582 01:22:54.920 --> 01:22:58.119 with you. Number two recycling, and again there are certain 1583 01:22:58.119 --> 01:23:01.079 materials that are absolutely one h two percent recyclable and 1584 01:23:01.119 --> 01:23:04.920 we should be doing that. I'm with this. Number three composting, 1585 01:23:05.600 --> 01:23:09.319 so basically any of your food that you would usually 1586 01:23:09.359 --> 01:23:11.119 throw out or not all that I want to say 1587 01:23:11.119 --> 01:23:13.239 that because you'll attract like rodents and shit, but like 1588 01:23:13.560 --> 01:23:16.159 there are things that you could put into a compost pile, 1589 01:23:16.520 --> 01:23:19.319 which you should be doing that anyway. But we should 1590 01:23:19.319 --> 01:23:21.439 also be growing our own food, which is why you 1591 01:23:21.479 --> 01:23:23.319 would be composting. Unless you have a garden, you're not 1592 01:23:23.359 --> 01:23:28.680 going to compost. Let's be real here. Number four the incineration, 1593 01:23:29.680 --> 01:23:33.600 so burning your trash, because we see so many times 1594 01:23:33.680 --> 01:23:36.760 where that's so good for our clean air. Right, no 1595 01:23:36.800 --> 01:23:39.000 one's ever had an issue of people burning their own 1596 01:23:39.039 --> 01:23:44.319 trash before. And number five sanitary landfilling. And how many 1597 01:23:44.319 --> 01:23:46.439 times have we heard about a landfill that had one 1598 01:23:46.479 --> 01:23:49.119 of those liners that ripped and now all the toxic 1599 01:23:49.159 --> 01:23:52.039 shit is leeching out into the earth. But yes, of 1600 01:23:52.079 --> 01:23:55.039 course that's a better option by yeah, okay, just want 1601 01:23:55.079 --> 01:23:57.039 to stop and make sure we talked about those real quick. 1602 01:23:57.680 --> 01:24:02.439 Yeah, yeah, well, you know, it's uh, none of that 1603 01:24:02.600 --> 01:24:04.840 is really good. And to be honest, I wish there 1604 01:24:04.960 --> 01:24:06.600 was a way that we could just burn our trash 1605 01:24:06.880 --> 01:24:10.880 like that seems like, you know, it's gonna maybe it's 1606 01:24:10.960 --> 01:24:14.359 gonna reduce the size of it obviously. You know, maybe 1607 01:24:14.399 --> 01:24:16.359 maybe if you have some kind of ash catcher or 1608 01:24:16.359 --> 01:24:20.199 some kind of filter, maybe the trash companies or maybe 1609 01:24:20.199 --> 01:24:23.960 these packaging programs would be able to pay for every 1610 01:24:24.199 --> 01:24:26.079 household to be able to have one of those kind 1611 01:24:26.159 --> 01:24:29.039 of things. Could be something very simple, or we can 1612 01:24:29.159 --> 01:24:31.279 just go full on back to the fucking future with 1613 01:24:31.359 --> 01:24:33.119 it and just find a way to be able to 1614 01:24:33.199 --> 01:24:35.439 use it as a fuel source. Nobody's gonna be throwing 1615 01:24:35.479 --> 01:24:37.000 trash to the sidebad at that point. 1616 01:24:37.479 --> 01:24:39.520 We're gonna talk about that as an option here in 1617 01:24:39.560 --> 01:24:41.760 a bit, because there is a way to do that, 1618 01:24:42.039 --> 01:24:45.239 But that's strictly just for plastics, right, So here's where 1619 01:24:45.199 --> 01:24:48.039 I'm at with it. Cardboard and paper. Dude, I burn 1620 01:24:48.079 --> 01:24:51.319 all that. I absolutely Once a week we start a 1621 01:24:51.359 --> 01:24:53.800 fire and we burn shit. First of all, I love 1622 01:24:53.840 --> 01:24:56.479 starting fires, not as a pyrope, but just it's very 1623 01:24:56.560 --> 01:24:58.800 it's calming to me to build a good fire, right 1624 01:24:59.359 --> 01:25:03.159 number one? Number two, glass and ten cans and soup 1625 01:25:03.199 --> 01:25:06.399 cans and coke bottle. Yes, we should be recycling those, 1626 01:25:06.399 --> 01:25:09.800 and I can understand that source reduction. We should be 1627 01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:14.439 making less trash, and I agree with that. We America 1628 01:25:14.560 --> 01:25:18.319 is are the largest trash producers on Earth. 1629 01:25:18.520 --> 01:25:20.159 We're gonna talk about all of that here in a bit. 1630 01:25:20.920 --> 01:25:21.960 Uh Recycling. 1631 01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:24.319 Composting, yo, unless you have a garden, you're not gonna 1632 01:25:24.319 --> 01:25:27.640 think to compost. And that's also not even a drop 1633 01:25:27.640 --> 01:25:30.600 in the bucket. That is a tenth of a drop. 1634 01:25:30.640 --> 01:25:33.920 That's a nano drop in a bucket. Do you personally? 1635 01:25:33.920 --> 01:25:38.039 Composting doesn't help the earth on that level unless you're 1636 01:25:38.079 --> 01:25:39.039 doing it to scale. 1637 01:25:39.159 --> 01:25:41.000 That's a singular count here, sir. 1638 01:25:41.399 --> 01:25:44.319 Right and centeration. Okay, certain things that can burn, I'm 1639 01:25:44.319 --> 01:25:48.840 with you. Sanitary landfilling. There are ways to do landfills, 1640 01:25:48.920 --> 01:25:52.520 and I'm not saying that that is not a viable option. 1641 01:25:53.560 --> 01:25:56.479 But also there are so many landfills that have done 1642 01:25:56.520 --> 01:25:58.960 it wrong for so long that we are now seeing 1643 01:25:59.039 --> 01:26:02.119 come through to fruition. And it's just that's my point. 1644 01:26:02.199 --> 01:26:07.079 It's not none of these are necessarily good, or some 1645 01:26:07.159 --> 01:26:09.039 of them are good. Yes, we should be making less trash. 1646 01:26:09.079 --> 01:26:11.680 That's a good option. I like that, but none of 1647 01:26:11.720 --> 01:26:15.319 them are scalable realistically. 1648 01:26:16.239 --> 01:26:20.680 Yeah, it's got to start with the corporations, I think absolutely. 1649 01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:22.520 But anyway, let's continue here. 1650 01:26:22.600 --> 01:26:25.720 So in nineteen ninety four, CAB published it's four hundred 1651 01:26:25.760 --> 01:26:30.239 thousand dollars study The Role of Recycling of Recycling in 1652 01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:33.880 Integrated Solid Waste Management of the Year two thousand, once 1653 01:26:33.920 --> 01:26:39.079 again shaping recycling as practice with limitations. One doubter fired back, 1654 01:26:39.119 --> 01:26:42.279 writing in quotes, I find myself questioning the agenda behind 1655 01:26:42.319 --> 01:26:46.239 the study. The report reminds us that it is cheaper 1656 01:26:46.680 --> 01:26:49.399 to send solid waste to the landfill. Well, I can 1657 01:26:49.479 --> 01:26:52.359 easily argue that tossing solid waste in the river is 1658 01:26:52.399 --> 01:26:53.000 even cheaper. 1659 01:26:53.960 --> 01:26:58.159 Ah, And interesting how that is. And I'll kind of 1660 01:26:58.159 --> 01:27:00.239 cut to the chase on the whole. Using plastic to 1661 01:27:00.239 --> 01:27:02.439 make a fuel source, it's very possible. 1662 01:27:03.159 --> 01:27:05.560 It doesn't make very high grade fuels. But you can 1663 01:27:05.640 --> 01:27:06.600 use it to make fuels. 1664 01:27:06.920 --> 01:27:10.479 But it's also expensive to turn a bunch of plastic 1665 01:27:10.520 --> 01:27:14.920 waste into a like ignitable fuel source because it's all hydrocarbons, 1666 01:27:14.920 --> 01:27:17.239 it's all from crude oil. But I mean, I'll tie 1667 01:27:17.239 --> 01:27:20.119 in later to my theory about plastic bottles and plastics 1668 01:27:20.119 --> 01:27:21.640 in general that we are using. 1669 01:27:21.680 --> 01:27:25.079 But I mean, it's it's expensive until you get some 1670 01:27:25.239 --> 01:27:27.960 big money and some big push behind it, and surely 1671 01:27:28.159 --> 01:27:33.359 somebody with the means to be able to push that 1672 01:27:33.479 --> 01:27:35.560 kind of study. And you know, there's a lot of 1673 01:27:35.560 --> 01:27:38.399 brilliant fucking people out there in the world, and usually 1674 01:27:38.560 --> 01:27:42.039 those very brilliant people that find alternative fuel sources, they 1675 01:27:42.119 --> 01:27:43.680 end up dead a week later as soon as they 1676 01:27:43.680 --> 01:27:46.279 get done publishing it. Maybe if we just stop killing. 1677 01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:48.399 Those people, maybe if we keep around. 1678 01:27:48.039 --> 01:27:50.439 The people that found a way to be able to 1679 01:27:50.520 --> 01:27:53.680 run a car off of water or run a car 1680 01:27:53.800 --> 01:27:56.640 off of plastic, maybe if we didn't fucking suicide them, 1681 01:27:56.920 --> 01:27:59.359 then we might be able to not have to worry 1682 01:27:59.359 --> 01:28:02.439 so much about the whole recycling issue. But no, we 1683 01:28:03.039 --> 01:28:07.479 like to, we like to, you know, we don't kill them. 1684 01:28:07.600 --> 01:28:11.439 They just suicide themselves for some reason. They just always 1685 01:28:11.640 --> 01:28:14.720 kill themselves. I mean, they come up with one of 1686 01:28:14.800 --> 01:28:18.479 the best inventions in all of humanity, and they just 1687 01:28:18.560 --> 01:28:22.520 can't help it. I mean, they are so eating themselves, allied, 1688 01:28:22.680 --> 01:28:25.960 so rotten on the inside, they can't stand to look 1689 01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:28.239 at themselves in the mirror anymore. They just have to 1690 01:28:28.319 --> 01:28:29.039 kill themselves. 1691 01:28:29.279 --> 01:28:31.920 You know, It's just crazy how that works out. Man, 1692 01:28:31.960 --> 01:28:35.279 as soon as some amazing, world changing technology comes out, 1693 01:28:35.720 --> 01:28:38.600 the creator just feels so burdened with his genius that 1694 01:28:38.680 --> 01:28:41.119 he just can't He can't wake up tomorrow morning. He's 1695 01:28:41.119 --> 01:28:41.760 over it. 1696 01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:44.119 It's like if I cured cancer, and I'm like, you 1697 01:28:44.159 --> 01:28:46.640 know what, I really just I did the world. I 1698 01:28:46.680 --> 01:28:49.439 did the world dirty by doing that. I'm just I 1699 01:28:49.479 --> 01:28:51.760 can't stand to even live with myself anymore. I'm just 1700 01:28:51.800 --> 01:28:57.520 gonna kill myself. Ridiculous, you know, it is. 1701 01:28:57.640 --> 01:29:01.319 It is anyway. So cabs invest continue to watch their 1702 01:29:01.359 --> 01:29:05.760 industries thrive, while Keep America Beautiful continues to roll out 1703 01:29:05.800 --> 01:29:11.000 beautification and community based recycling initiatives, including twenty thirteen's I 1704 01:29:11.119 --> 01:29:15.359 Want to Be Recycled campaigns. Its corporate sponsors have turned 1705 01:29:15.399 --> 01:29:20.039 to the manufacture and processing of disposables into a cash crop. 1706 01:29:20.439 --> 01:29:25.319 On its website, CAB lists its corporate sponsors, which includes PepsiCo, 1707 01:29:25.560 --> 01:29:30.279 Coca Cola, Anheuser Busch, h and M, Waste Management, and McDonald's. 1708 01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:34.520 These organizations represent some of the wealthiest businesses in the world. 1709 01:29:34.840 --> 01:29:39.079 In twenty sixteen, the solid waste industry generated sixty billion 1710 01:29:39.119 --> 01:29:42.359 dollars in revenue, a set of increase from the thirty 1711 01:29:42.439 --> 01:29:46.000 nine billion in two thousand. The industry's profits will exceed 1712 01:29:46.119 --> 01:29:49.640 eighty one billion dollars by twenty twenty three. This is 1713 01:29:49.720 --> 01:29:52.680 a twenty twenty two arcow I should say so eighty 1714 01:29:52.720 --> 01:29:57.199 one billion dollars in the solid waste industry right. The 1715 01:29:57.239 --> 01:30:01.760 global plastics market is expected to surpass six hundred billion 1716 01:30:01.920 --> 01:30:05.840 in profits by twenty twenty. With a consumer market overwhelmed 1717 01:30:05.880 --> 01:30:09.600 by disposables, The demand for plastics globally will be over 1718 01:30:09.680 --> 01:30:15.359 three hundred and thirty million tons in twenty twenty. Three 1719 01:30:15.439 --> 01:30:18.800 hundred and thirty million tons. 1720 01:30:19.399 --> 01:30:22.000 And this was before COVID, when people were just Amazon 1721 01:30:22.119 --> 01:30:23.079 ordering everything. 1722 01:30:22.760 --> 01:30:23.359 To their house. 1723 01:30:24.239 --> 01:30:28.119 That's just the demands for the plastic. Three hundred and 1724 01:30:28.239 --> 01:30:32.079 thirty million tons of plastic that is being demanded by 1725 01:30:32.159 --> 01:30:34.359 the public for whatever You're going to. 1726 01:30:34.279 --> 01:30:37.640 Buy anything from the plastic wrapping on your Snickers bar, 1727 01:30:38.159 --> 01:30:41.239 to the container that you're buying your food into the 1728 01:30:41.239 --> 01:30:43.920 plastic bottle, so anything, it's just plastics. 1729 01:30:43.520 --> 01:30:45.840 In general to everything. Yeah. 1730 01:30:46.079 --> 01:30:49.720 Yeah, the production of plastics requires fossil fuels. Yes, we 1731 01:30:49.760 --> 01:30:52.640 are talking about crude oil, and corporations like Shell and 1732 01:30:52.720 --> 01:30:55.720 Exxon Mobile are currently investing in the construction of new 1733 01:30:55.720 --> 01:30:59.119 plastics facilities in the United States that will be operational 1734 01:30:59.119 --> 01:31:03.079 within the next decade. These factories will quote unquote help 1735 01:31:03.319 --> 01:31:10.039 fuel a forty rise in plastic production. Oh my god. Yeah. Meanwhile, 1736 01:31:10.159 --> 01:31:14.720 cab prospers too, bring in over eight million in twenty sixteen, 1737 01:31:15.119 --> 01:31:19.279 to ninety four percent of which came from outside contributors. 1738 01:31:20.199 --> 01:31:23.239 It's a lobbying groom, you know. 1739 01:31:23.319 --> 01:31:26.159 They really care so much, but they got to make 1740 01:31:26.159 --> 01:31:27.399 a little cheese off the top. 1741 01:31:27.479 --> 01:31:30.560 Of course, always they're not doing it for the health. 1742 01:31:30.920 --> 01:31:32.760 They say they're doing it for the health of the world, 1743 01:31:32.800 --> 01:31:33.600 but that's not true. 1744 01:31:33.680 --> 01:31:37.479 It's amazing how all of these these these companies that 1745 01:31:37.520 --> 01:31:41.720 are so concerned about the environment, all of the big dogs, 1746 01:31:41.720 --> 01:31:44.199 all the chairmen's, all the CEOs, all of the people 1747 01:31:44.239 --> 01:31:47.159 on the board, they all god, they all just somehow 1748 01:31:47.199 --> 01:31:50.760 get to these meetings in drivate jets. You know, it's like, God, 1749 01:31:50.920 --> 01:31:55.880 I just love people who are fucking oxymoronic contradictors. 1750 01:31:56.439 --> 01:31:59.880 Yeah, it's crazy how this really does play out, brother. 1751 01:32:00.159 --> 01:32:02.319 And people don't even I mean, there are a lot 1752 01:32:02.319 --> 01:32:03.960 of people out there with that dirt eye all the 1753 01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:06.720 way open that are able to look at these people 1754 01:32:06.800 --> 01:32:09.520 as the scam artists that they are. But there are 1755 01:32:09.600 --> 01:32:12.479 so many people that just fall victim to all of 1756 01:32:12.520 --> 01:32:15.880 this rhetoric that they are just having their mind manipulated 1757 01:32:15.880 --> 01:32:18.399 into believing that these are really good people. It's like, 1758 01:32:18.880 --> 01:32:22.880 let's hold these people at a higher pedestal. If you're 1759 01:32:22.960 --> 01:32:24.720 going to come out here and you're gonna be talking 1760 01:32:24.720 --> 01:32:28.079 about carbon tax credits, you're gonna be worried about the environment. 1761 01:32:28.359 --> 01:32:31.119 You're worried about the littering in the ocean and on 1762 01:32:31.239 --> 01:32:35.479 landfills and everything, you better be the best frontman for 1763 01:32:35.520 --> 01:32:38.359 that that anybody's ever seen, because there's going to be 1764 01:32:38.399 --> 01:32:41.399 people that are going to point to well, you gotta 1765 01:32:42.159 --> 01:32:45.079 a big old diesel truck, or you got a yacht, 1766 01:32:45.399 --> 01:32:48.279 or you got a jet plane. It's like, you can't 1767 01:32:48.319 --> 01:32:51.960 tell me to stop littering and stop polluting. If you're 1768 01:32:52.119 --> 01:32:54.159 one of the main contributors to doing. 1769 01:32:53.960 --> 01:32:57.720 It talking about you. Leo DiCaprio, Fucking Leo. 1770 01:32:57.800 --> 01:32:59.680 At least he's Dayton order women these days. 1771 01:33:00.319 --> 01:33:02.319 Oh, he's going to like what twenty seven year olds. 1772 01:33:02.119 --> 01:33:04.119 Now, twenty eight, twenty nine, something like that. 1773 01:33:04.199 --> 01:33:05.680 Yeah, look at him. 1774 01:33:06.239 --> 01:33:10.039 Good like dating adults. That's new for him. Yeah, it's uh, 1775 01:33:10.079 --> 01:33:12.720 it's kind of it's kind of strange. Most people, you know, 1776 01:33:13.239 --> 01:33:15.960 we're looking at him, looking at all the brand new 1777 01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:18.439 cars that he was buying with no mileage on him yet, 1778 01:33:18.920 --> 01:33:21.840 and they were like, wait a second, you need you 1779 01:33:21.960 --> 01:33:24.680 need something with about one hundred thousand miles on at first, 1780 01:33:24.800 --> 01:33:26.399 at least twenty thousand miles. 1781 01:33:26.520 --> 01:33:28.520 Let's just get you know what I'm saying, It's like. 1782 01:33:28.760 --> 01:33:31.439 Stop, stop fucking taking all of our versions Leo. 1783 01:33:31.720 --> 01:33:34.239 God, oh my god. Yeah that was a whole not 1784 01:33:34.279 --> 01:33:36.279 just saying there's other people on the same thing. But 1785 01:33:36.560 --> 01:33:38.600 I only bring up Leo because that was exactly what 1786 01:33:38.680 --> 01:33:40.640 he did. When he finally won the Oscars, he said 1787 01:33:40.640 --> 01:33:43.640 the global warming was the biggest threat facing us this 1788 01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:47.079 in our day and age. Then the World Cup happens 1789 01:33:47.079 --> 01:33:50.439 in Rio and he brings his private yacht, which burns 1790 01:33:50.520 --> 01:33:53.479 like hundreds of gallons of diesel a day and parks 1791 01:33:53.479 --> 01:33:55.520 it off the coast of Brazil. He doesn't actually like 1792 01:33:55.640 --> 01:33:59.319 attend the World Cup, that's what the fucking pores dude. No, 1793 01:33:59.560 --> 01:34:02.359 of course, he's just doing like the most upscale tailgating 1794 01:34:02.399 --> 01:34:04.159 I've ever seen in my life. And to be almost 1795 01:34:04.199 --> 01:34:04.880 to bitch it us. 1796 01:34:04.840 --> 01:34:07.039 I don't have a problem with people owning yachts and 1797 01:34:07.119 --> 01:34:09.199 sailing them. That's I don't have an issue with that. 1798 01:34:09.279 --> 01:34:11.560 If you got that money. Best believe, if I was 1799 01:34:11.600 --> 01:34:13.800 a billionaire, I'd have a fucking yacht too, and I 1800 01:34:13.840 --> 01:34:15.680 would have a private jet, and I would have all 1801 01:34:15.720 --> 01:34:16.640 these awesome things. 1802 01:34:17.039 --> 01:34:19.039 But I wouldn't be talking shit to people who are 1803 01:34:19.039 --> 01:34:21.520 burning diesel and like blowing black smoke in the air. 1804 01:34:21.560 --> 01:34:23.680 I'm doing me, you're doing you? Like, how about you 1805 01:34:23.720 --> 01:34:24.720 each mind our business? 1806 01:34:24.800 --> 01:34:28.680 But isn't that a perfect allegory for this exact episode, 1807 01:34:28.880 --> 01:34:32.279 Like ye, those very people that are saying that it's 1808 01:34:32.319 --> 01:34:35.800 it's we're the polluters, we're the litterers whenever you know, 1809 01:34:35.840 --> 01:34:38.039 they're kind of the biggest douches of. 1810 01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:41.720 Them all agreed, And I mean again, like George Carlson said, 1811 01:34:42.239 --> 01:34:45.000 we have the audaci. I think that's some plastic bags, 1812 01:34:45.880 --> 01:34:49.359 some some plastic bottles are gonna kill Mother Earth. I'm 1813 01:34:49.359 --> 01:34:52.840 not saying that we should minimize the severity of these 1814 01:34:52.880 --> 01:34:55.680 toxic things on our planet. Yes, we should handle the problem. 1815 01:34:56.039 --> 01:34:59.840 But also, bro the Earth has been through multiple ice ages, 1816 01:35:00.560 --> 01:35:05.000 some plastic bottles, like we're making it more uncomfortable for ourselves. 1817 01:35:05.359 --> 01:35:08.079 We're littering our environment and like all these things. But 1818 01:35:08.199 --> 01:35:12.039 like big dog, we got we got the Earth has 1819 01:35:12.079 --> 01:35:14.880 got the Earth covered. Okay, Yeah, it's like. 1820 01:35:16.479 --> 01:35:18.520 I think that the you know, in just getting a 1821 01:35:18.560 --> 01:35:21.479 little bit deeper into even the whole carbon thing. It's like, 1822 01:35:21.520 --> 01:35:23.760 if the Earth really had a problem with any of 1823 01:35:23.800 --> 01:35:29.159 the carbon, it wouldn't erupt fucking volcanoes that are going 1824 01:35:29.199 --> 01:35:32.039 to produce way more carbon than all of humanity over 1825 01:35:32.079 --> 01:35:34.279 the course of one hundred fucking years out of just 1826 01:35:34.359 --> 01:35:39.000 one little eruption, right like it. So obviously the Earth 1827 01:35:39.079 --> 01:35:41.560 probably doesn't really give that much of a fuck about carbon. 1828 01:35:41.600 --> 01:35:44.199 So why are you saying that the Earth does. I'll 1829 01:35:44.199 --> 01:35:46.159 give you another one. I don't think the Earth gives 1830 01:35:46.159 --> 01:35:49.319 that much of a fuck about us. I'm sorry, I 1831 01:35:49.319 --> 01:35:51.359 don't really think it does. Oh, it's the mother Earth. 1832 01:35:51.399 --> 01:35:53.760 We're connected, we're not. We're not. The Earth is an 1833 01:35:53.760 --> 01:35:55.359 independent thing. We are. 1834 01:35:56.000 --> 01:35:58.279 The Earth is a living thing. And some people will 1835 01:35:58.279 --> 01:36:01.359 say that it's a conscious being. I I'm kinda of that. 1836 01:36:01.840 --> 01:36:04.800 But but that conscious being doesn't give a fuck about us. 1837 01:36:05.560 --> 01:36:09.479 Well, I'm not saying that. I mean, it provides nourishment 1838 01:36:09.560 --> 01:36:09.960 for us. 1839 01:36:10.720 --> 01:36:13.000 It's doing its thing and we are taking the nourishment 1840 01:36:13.039 --> 01:36:13.399 from it. 1841 01:36:14.600 --> 01:36:16.840 Well that's to say that we're not native to Earth. 1842 01:36:16.880 --> 01:36:18.079 Then would you say. 1843 01:36:17.920 --> 01:36:19.159 That, no, we are. 1844 01:36:19.319 --> 01:36:22.199 But that's that's it's not the same thing, dude, Like 1845 01:36:22.800 --> 01:36:25.399 the animals the same way the Earth doesn't care about 1846 01:36:25.439 --> 01:36:25.840 the deer. 1847 01:36:26.199 --> 01:36:28.720 The Earth is doing earth shit. It's making trees and 1848 01:36:28.760 --> 01:36:31.439 making grass because that's what the earth does. The animals 1849 01:36:31.439 --> 01:36:33.720 are eating of the grass the earth and doing that 1850 01:36:33.800 --> 01:36:36.920 for the animals. That's just happening independently, and it's all 1851 01:36:36.960 --> 01:36:39.680 working in a harmonious balance. But it's like those are 1852 01:36:39.720 --> 01:36:40.640 separate entities. 1853 01:36:41.279 --> 01:36:43.840 I mean, you can't say that they're not connected and 1854 01:36:43.880 --> 01:36:45.760 then also say that it's harmonious. 1855 01:36:46.920 --> 01:36:48.479 I'm saying that two things can be true at the 1856 01:36:48.520 --> 01:36:49.000 same time. 1857 01:36:49.800 --> 01:36:52.840 Interesting. Interesting, I mean I disagree, but I understand where 1858 01:36:52.840 --> 01:36:56.760 they're coming from but anyhow, so it says these campaigns 1859 01:36:56.760 --> 01:37:00.319 have had minimal impact on recycling rates and plastics lotion 1860 01:37:00.600 --> 01:37:03.800 is worse than ever. We've all seen images of plastic 1861 01:37:03.840 --> 01:37:07.159 islands floating in the ocean or mountains of plastic growing 1862 01:37:07.279 --> 01:37:10.079 on land. But just how much plastic has been produced 1863 01:37:10.079 --> 01:37:13.880 since the disposables industry, backed by CAB took off in 1864 01:37:13.920 --> 01:37:17.439 the nineteen fifties. According to a study published by Science 1865 01:37:17.640 --> 01:37:22.920 Advances in twenty eighteen, eight point three billion metric tons 1866 01:37:23.039 --> 01:37:27.880 of plastic has been produced, six point three billion metric 1867 01:37:27.920 --> 01:37:32.600 tons has become plastic waste. Of that, only nine percent 1868 01:37:32.720 --> 01:37:36.359 has been recycled. The vast majority, seventy nine percent is 1869 01:37:36.399 --> 01:37:40.439 accumulating in landfills or sloughing off in the natural environment 1870 01:37:40.520 --> 01:37:43.680 as litter. That means that ninety one percent of plastic 1871 01:37:43.800 --> 01:37:48.239 is not recycled. Yeah, holy shit, dude, what was that 1872 01:37:48.479 --> 01:37:52.319 six point eight point three billion metric tons of plastic? 1873 01:37:52.800 --> 01:37:55.600 Oh my god, that's a literal metric. 1874 01:37:55.359 --> 01:38:00.760 Fteen in twenty eighteen. Dude, in twenty eighteen, eight point 1875 01:38:00.760 --> 01:38:02.720 three billion metric tons. 1876 01:38:03.000 --> 01:38:05.880 Yeah, I mean, obviously it's going to get substantially worse 1877 01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:09.000 every year, only gone up it's only gone up right. 1878 01:38:09.199 --> 01:38:13.039 So today Americans toss out close to three hundred pounds 1879 01:38:13.039 --> 01:38:15.880 of solid waste a year, a third of which is packaging. 1880 01:38:16.159 --> 01:38:19.840 The industry is responsible for the proliferation of these non 1881 01:38:19.880 --> 01:38:23.560 biodegradable single use products, have been unwilling to adapt or 1882 01:38:23.600 --> 01:38:27.439 accept the role that they play in polluting the planet. Instead, 1883 01:38:27.439 --> 01:38:32.079 they rely on shipping plastic refuse is it rip refuse 1884 01:38:32.159 --> 01:38:37.720 refuse trash okay plastic trash to other countries, or incinerating plastic, 1885 01:38:37.760 --> 01:38:40.840 which releases toxic chemicals into the atmosphere. It is also 1886 01:38:40.920 --> 01:38:44.880 becoming more apparent to scientists the plastic industry is a 1887 01:38:44.920 --> 01:38:48.319 major contributor to climate change since the material is derived 1888 01:38:48.359 --> 01:38:52.560 from fossil fuels. These industries, including CAB sponsors, understand that 1889 01:38:52.600 --> 01:38:56.520 the cost of recycling in America placed on municipalities is 1890 01:38:56.600 --> 01:38:59.680 unaffordable due to the lack of the lack of infrastructure 1891 01:38:59.680 --> 01:39:02.399 anti technology to keep up with the amount of materials produced. 1892 01:39:02.680 --> 01:39:06.279 For decades, America exported most of its recyclables to China, 1893 01:39:06.600 --> 01:39:10.199 but China ended this arrangement in twenty eighteen. Recycling programs 1894 01:39:10.239 --> 01:39:12.399 across the country are at risk, and the problem is 1895 01:39:12.479 --> 01:39:15.560 projected to get worse as long as the disposables industry 1896 01:39:15.800 --> 01:39:19.560 and its partners refuse to support bottle bills, invest in 1897 01:39:19.640 --> 01:39:23.359 more recycling facilities, and make products that are easier to reprocess. 1898 01:39:24.439 --> 01:39:26.800 So there's a lot of things to unpack with this 1899 01:39:26.880 --> 01:39:30.199 one article, okay, And like we said, it's not the 1900 01:39:30.279 --> 01:39:34.560 glass in the metal, Okay, it is the plastics that 1901 01:39:34.640 --> 01:39:36.880 is the real evil as far as the recycling game 1902 01:39:37.039 --> 01:39:37.800 is concerned. 1903 01:39:38.399 --> 01:39:41.520 I got a Forbes article here beyond the plastics, the 1904 01:39:41.560 --> 01:39:45.920 myths and truths about recycling and the potential solution. I'm 1905 01:39:45.960 --> 01:39:47.720 gonna go ahead and read into this one now, but 1906 01:39:48.439 --> 01:39:51.479 just before I do, they were correct about a lot 1907 01:39:51.479 --> 01:39:54.680 of those things. The recycling rates the amount that each 1908 01:39:54.760 --> 01:39:59.000 human produces in America three hundred pounds a year that 1909 01:39:59.079 --> 01:40:01.840 we individ you will make three hundred pounds, I will 1910 01:40:01.840 --> 01:40:04.840 make three all these things, and yes there's varying degrees 1911 01:40:04.880 --> 01:40:06.640 of that. Some make more than others. That's an on 1912 01:40:06.800 --> 01:40:11.039 average thing. But that is a yearly rate, end over end, 1913 01:40:11.079 --> 01:40:13.560 that is not going to go down anytime soon unless 1914 01:40:13.600 --> 01:40:16.000 some very drastic changes are made. But they're not going 1915 01:40:16.079 --> 01:40:17.760 to get made. Was that because the companies? 1916 01:40:17.960 --> 01:40:21.000 Was that per individual or per household to three hundred pounds. 1917 01:40:20.960 --> 01:40:25.199 Per individual sir damn. Yeah, and we have our over 1918 01:40:25.199 --> 01:40:27.479 what three hundred and sixty five billion people living in 1919 01:40:27.479 --> 01:40:32.279 this country million excuse me, a million? Woweh million. So 1920 01:40:32.399 --> 01:40:34.840 that's my point. You do the math on that, and 1921 01:40:34.880 --> 01:40:37.239 it's not a pretty number of what it looks like. 1922 01:40:37.319 --> 01:40:40.119 But then what do we do with these materials? How 1923 01:40:40.119 --> 01:40:41.960 do we dispose of them properly? We're gonna get to 1924 01:40:42.000 --> 01:40:44.079 it all in a minute, but now let's read into 1925 01:40:44.079 --> 01:40:47.680 this Forbes article here the pervasiveness of plastic has become 1926 01:40:47.720 --> 01:40:51.520 a global concern and estimated two hundred and forty two 1927 01:40:51.800 --> 01:40:55.880 million metric tons of it's generated every year, and the 1928 01:40:55.960 --> 01:40:58.960 United States is one of the top generators. Actually, correction, 1929 01:40:59.159 --> 01:41:02.159 it is the top generator on earth and has been 1930 01:41:02.199 --> 01:41:05.000 for quite some time. The consumerist nation thing, we buy 1931 01:41:05.079 --> 01:41:08.520 bye bye all that, yet we buy shit that's in plastic. 1932 01:41:08.960 --> 01:41:10.279 So keep that in mind. 1933 01:41:10.279 --> 01:41:16.159 I mean, who's even a close second? Who would you say. 1934 01:41:14.800 --> 01:41:17.119 The problem is? Whenever I say who the close second is, 1935 01:41:17.159 --> 01:41:19.600 there's a reason why they're a close second. It'd be 1936 01:41:19.720 --> 01:41:23.720 China and India. But also it's not because there's such 1937 01:41:23.720 --> 01:41:27.560 a consumerist nation it's because we outsourced and they buy 1938 01:41:27.600 --> 01:41:29.840 our trash from us. But we're gonna get to that 1939 01:41:29.840 --> 01:41:33.199 in a minute with Operation Long Sword or National Sword 1940 01:41:33.319 --> 01:41:37.720 when twenty eighteen. But anyway, anyway, So while recycling sounds 1941 01:41:37.720 --> 01:41:41.199 like a simple solution, it's not. Plastic recycling has proven 1942 01:41:41.239 --> 01:41:44.960 to be ineffective, as evidenced by a shocking statistic from 1943 01:41:45.079 --> 01:41:48.479 Our world in data. Out of the five point eight 1944 01:41:48.520 --> 01:41:52.159 billion metric tons of plastic waste generator between nineteen fifty 1945 01:41:52.159 --> 01:41:55.199 and twenty fifteen, only about nine percent of it has 1946 01:41:55.239 --> 01:41:58.319 been recycled. And I shall also make mention it has 1947 01:41:58.359 --> 01:42:03.600 never gone over nine percent. Like the best year, maybe 1948 01:42:03.640 --> 01:42:07.359 we will achieve nine percent successful recycling. That is such 1949 01:42:07.399 --> 01:42:09.560 a very small number, and usually it's a lot lower 1950 01:42:09.600 --> 01:42:13.920 than that. The rest has been left to be incinerated, 1951 01:42:14.039 --> 01:42:16.800 land filled, or littered. On top of that, a more 1952 01:42:16.840 --> 01:42:21.119 recent report from nonprofit the Last Beach Cleanup and advocacy 1953 01:42:21.159 --> 01:42:25.079 group Beyond Plastics found that the number of found that 1954 01:42:25.199 --> 01:42:28.520 number to be even lower, with only five percent to 1955 01:42:28.720 --> 01:42:32.439 six percent of the US plastic ways converted into products 1956 01:42:32.520 --> 01:42:35.119 in twenty twenty one. It can be hard to believe 1957 01:42:35.159 --> 01:42:38.439 that so little plastics has actually been recycled, considering how 1958 01:42:38.479 --> 01:42:42.119 commonplace recycling has become. But the truth is, plastic is 1959 01:42:42.159 --> 01:42:45.319 not easy to recycle. Plastic products are usually made up 1960 01:42:45.319 --> 01:42:48.000 of a mixture of chemicals that can create difficulties in 1961 01:42:48.000 --> 01:42:51.000 the recycling process, and it's harder to isolate the base 1962 01:42:51.119 --> 01:42:54.600 materials that can be recovered and reused. So how come 1963 01:42:54.720 --> 01:42:58.479 environmental campaigns frame recycling as such a simple solution. The 1964 01:42:58.520 --> 01:43:01.000 plastic problem isn't a new one, of course, but I 1965 01:43:01.119 --> 01:43:04.760 learned more about this wide ranging consequences during a recent 1966 01:43:04.800 --> 01:43:09.600 conversation with Judith inc Unk I don't know, President of 1967 01:43:09.720 --> 01:43:14.960 Beyond Plastics. The nationwide project has based in Bennington College 1968 01:43:14.960 --> 01:43:18.640 in Bennington, Vermont, pairs the experience of environmental policy experts 1969 01:43:18.680 --> 01:43:22.520 with creative college students to achieve the institutional, economic, and 1970 01:43:22.640 --> 01:43:27.279 societal changes needed to combat the plastic pollution crisis. During 1971 01:43:27.279 --> 01:43:31.880 our conversationc inc, how would you say that word? Ink? 1972 01:43:33.279 --> 01:43:37.840 Ink ink man e n C k ink alex smoke right, Okay. 1973 01:43:37.600 --> 01:43:41.039 Fair enough. Inc addressed the crucial need for companies to 1974 01:43:41.119 --> 01:43:44.239 be hailed accountable for the environmental impacts their products make, 1975 01:43:44.640 --> 01:43:47.560 as well as the major problem with chemical recycling and 1976 01:43:47.720 --> 01:43:52.960 the abundance of greenwashing among companies taking environmental action. We're 1977 01:43:52.960 --> 01:43:55.039 going to talk about greenwashing more in depth at the 1978 01:43:55.159 --> 01:43:59.399 end of this thing. Extended producer responsibilities, so as I 1979 01:43:59.520 --> 01:44:03.439 share in my first article from the conversed conversation with inc, 1980 01:44:03.840 --> 01:44:07.199 the first step she suggests to combat the plastic problem 1981 01:44:07.319 --> 01:44:11.159 is to create clear and measurable requirements in extended producer 1982 01:44:11.319 --> 01:44:17.359 responsibility EPR policies with an emphasis on reduction. EPR is 1983 01:44:17.399 --> 01:44:20.800 the concept that manufacturers and importers should be held responsible 1984 01:44:20.840 --> 01:44:24.399 for the environmental impacts of their products throughout their life cycle. 1985 01:44:24.880 --> 01:44:28.039 Although many environmental groups agree that putting these policies into 1986 01:44:28.079 --> 01:44:31.399 place is important, many special interest groups have taken advantage 1987 01:44:31.399 --> 01:44:35.039 of legislators who lack policy depth on such a complicated issue, 1988 01:44:35.640 --> 01:44:39.119 and as such have developed their own EPR bills. Take 1989 01:44:39.159 --> 01:44:44.119 for example, the American Legislative Exchange Council or ALEC, which 1990 01:44:44.239 --> 01:44:47.479 is known for writing model legislation with the major corporations, 1991 01:44:47.680 --> 01:44:51.520 typically the same companies that fund ALEC. Interesting how that 1992 01:44:51.600 --> 01:44:56.880 works out right, then encouraging their introduction through legislative partners nationwide. 1993 01:44:57.479 --> 01:45:00.760 This is a lobbying group that's all. This all boils 1994 01:45:00.840 --> 01:45:04.199 down to they drafted an alternative EPR bill on the 1995 01:45:04.319 --> 01:45:07.479 topic of plastics. But these model bills are coming directly 1996 01:45:07.520 --> 01:45:12.479 from the packaging industry. So literally, they're saying, Oh, we're 1997 01:45:12.479 --> 01:45:15.560 going to pass this new plastic policy. Well, who's paying 1998 01:45:15.600 --> 01:45:19.800 your paychecker quick? Oh the plastics industry. Well, I bet 1999 01:45:19.880 --> 01:45:22.199 there's a conflict of interest here. I mean, I'm not sure, 2000 01:45:22.319 --> 01:45:23.560 but damn that's. 2001 01:45:23.399 --> 01:45:25.760 About as good as an idea. Is the irs auditing 2002 01:45:25.840 --> 01:45:28.600 the irs, exactly right. 2003 01:45:29.359 --> 01:45:32.640 Many EPR proponents argue that putting fees on packaging will 2004 01:45:32.680 --> 01:45:36.159 result in packaging changes and improvements, and although that's a 2005 01:45:36.399 --> 01:45:41.279 well intentioned theory, INC says companies will likely pass on 2006 01:45:41.439 --> 01:45:44.920 these fees to consumers. Absolutely, if they have to pay 2007 01:45:45.000 --> 01:45:47.199 the fee, their product just got marked up a little bit. 2008 01:45:47.319 --> 01:45:50.279 That's that's how this goes. They're not paying shit, They're 2009 01:45:50.279 --> 01:45:53.680 absolutely not. But their product might go up twenty five 2010 01:45:53.800 --> 01:45:57.239 cents a dollar, however much their fine would have been. Huh. 2011 01:45:57.800 --> 01:45:59.960 Some of the bills currently being proposed give too much 2012 01:46:00.119 --> 01:46:02.760 control to companies, which tend to find ways around their 2013 01:46:02.800 --> 01:46:07.159 responsibilities if they are not meticulously defined. INC says that 2014 01:46:07.399 --> 01:46:10.840 even more problematic is that many of these bills allow 2015 01:46:11.000 --> 01:46:15.680 for chemical recycling. The problem with chemical recycling is until 2016 01:46:15.720 --> 01:46:19.560 twenty eighteen, the US ship nearly half of its plastic 2017 01:46:19.680 --> 01:46:22.880 recycling to other countries, mostly China. 2018 01:46:23.840 --> 01:46:26.520 We shipped it to them and basically paid them to 2019 01:46:26.960 --> 01:46:30.039 handle that problem for US. But in twenty eighteen, chrying 2020 01:46:30.039 --> 01:46:34.720 to stop taking any plastics that wasn't pristinely sorted. We're 2021 01:46:34.760 --> 01:46:38.399 gonna talk about contaminated recyclables here in a bit, but anyway, 2022 01:46:38.880 --> 01:46:42.039 other countries soon follow suit, and as such, plastic began 2023 01:46:42.119 --> 01:46:43.920 to pile up in the United States, where it was 2024 01:46:44.000 --> 01:46:47.760 land filled or routinely or routed to incinerators to be burned. 2025 01:46:48.119 --> 01:46:57.399 Incineration sometimes called chemical recycling. Incineration sometimes called chemical recycling, 2026 01:46:58.760 --> 01:47:03.359 has been hailed as a promising new recycling technology. But 2027 01:47:03.479 --> 01:47:05.960 it's not a magical solution. We're talking about burning trash, y'all. 2028 01:47:06.760 --> 01:47:09.920 That's not a magic solution. That's not new. We're talking 2029 01:47:09.920 --> 01:47:13.600 about burning plastics that release chemicals and black smoking to 2030 01:47:13.720 --> 01:47:16.800 the air, which is toxic. It's being hailed as a 2031 01:47:16.920 --> 01:47:20.399 promising new recycling technology. These people are out of their 2032 01:47:20.439 --> 01:47:20.960 fucking mind. 2033 01:47:21.000 --> 01:47:23.720 It just reminds me of fucking wow, what was that 2034 01:47:23.960 --> 01:47:26.640 castaway movie with Tom Hanks, not to give him a 2035 01:47:26.800 --> 01:47:28.960 good shout out, but I do love that movie whenever 2036 01:47:29.039 --> 01:47:30.840 he's out there on the fucking island and he starts 2037 01:47:30.840 --> 01:47:31.520 a fire and he's. 2038 01:47:31.439 --> 01:47:36.319 Like, fire, I create fire. It's a new technology. 2039 01:47:36.760 --> 01:47:39.960 And that's a fucking they're saying it's a promising new technology. 2040 01:47:40.119 --> 01:47:43.039 You mean fire is that new technology? 2041 01:47:43.600 --> 01:47:47.159 And I'm sorry, I personally know fifty to one hundred 2042 01:47:47.279 --> 01:47:51.199 veterans that are currently suffering from lung damage from the 2043 01:47:51.359 --> 01:47:56.800 burn pits of burning trash in country. So right off 2044 01:47:56.880 --> 01:47:58.319 the rit I can tell you that'sulyon. 2045 01:47:59.000 --> 01:48:01.600 Oh yeah, there was that whole thing too with what 2046 01:48:01.840 --> 01:48:05.279 was it, uh, Because whenever veterans go overseas, they have 2047 01:48:05.359 --> 01:48:07.840 to like piss into holes and shit and there's always 2048 01:48:07.880 --> 01:48:09.479 somebody that has to clean all that stuff out. 2049 01:48:10.039 --> 01:48:12.560 Oh yeah, oh yeah, we burn shit, like absolutely, I've 2050 01:48:12.560 --> 01:48:14.880 burned shit before. It's the worst, but like that's that's 2051 01:48:14.920 --> 01:48:18.079 what you do. Whenever you make a straddle trench happen 2052 01:48:18.199 --> 01:48:20.359 where you got like a porter shitter And it's not 2053 01:48:20.560 --> 01:48:22.720 like the nice blue ones that we have in America. 2054 01:48:22.840 --> 01:48:26.600 It's a wooden box with a glorified bucket at the bottom, 2055 01:48:27.079 --> 01:48:29.039 and every few days, you got to yank the bucket out, 2056 01:48:29.159 --> 01:48:31.520 dump a five gallon bucket of diesel fuel in it, 2057 01:48:31.640 --> 01:48:33.159 and burn it. And you gotta stir it with a 2058 01:48:33.199 --> 01:48:35.039 fence post to make sure that it all gets burned. 2059 01:48:35.439 --> 01:48:38.760 That's you're breathing that shit literally in and then these 2060 01:48:38.760 --> 01:48:41.680 people have lung issues. So yeah, I'm sorry, but incineration 2061 01:48:42.000 --> 01:48:47.279 is not a promising new recycling technology. It's it will 2062 01:48:47.399 --> 01:48:52.479 kill you. But like, okay anyway, And unfortunately, many of 2063 01:48:52.560 --> 01:48:55.520 the new EPR bills that are being introduced include language 2064 01:48:55.560 --> 01:48:58.920 that will allow for chemical recycling aka. 2065 01:48:58.880 --> 01:49:02.600 Burning the shit is another quote here. Chemical recycling is 2066 01:49:02.720 --> 01:49:03.520 not recycling. 2067 01:49:03.800 --> 01:49:07.279 Inc says it takes waste plastic, heats at high temperatures 2068 01:49:07.319 --> 01:49:12.159 and then creates a low grade fossil fuel. Now, incineration 2069 01:49:13.000 --> 01:49:17.000 is not this low grade fossil fuels that you're making 2070 01:49:17.079 --> 01:49:19.720 with these plastics, which is not a bad solution to 2071 01:49:19.800 --> 01:49:21.880 your point that you brought up earlier, But the problem 2072 01:49:21.920 --> 01:49:24.720 is that it is extremely expensive and for the amount 2073 01:49:24.760 --> 01:49:28.199 of fuel that you're using to melt the plastics into 2074 01:49:28.239 --> 01:49:30.920 a viable fuel source, it's kind of like wind turbines. 2075 01:49:31.279 --> 01:49:34.880 You're never going to get out even an equal amount 2076 01:49:35.079 --> 01:49:37.920 of what was used to create the craft or create 2077 01:49:38.000 --> 01:49:38.479 the product. 2078 01:49:39.000 --> 01:49:41.600 So the amount of natural gas that you need to 2079 01:49:42.399 --> 01:49:45.039 do the heating and the pressurization of this tank of 2080 01:49:45.119 --> 01:49:47.960 plastic to make it into a low grade biodiesel or something, 2081 01:49:48.560 --> 01:49:51.119 it's not going to create enough diesel to outweigh the 2082 01:49:51.159 --> 01:49:52.319 amount of natural gas. 2083 01:49:52.159 --> 01:49:52.760 That went into it. 2084 01:49:52.840 --> 01:49:55.319 It's not even worth it at that point exactly. 2085 01:49:55.479 --> 01:49:57.800 And I'm not saying that we can't figure out that 2086 01:49:57.920 --> 01:50:00.680 technology later on, but we are currently not at a 2087 01:50:00.760 --> 01:50:04.560 place where we have that. But anyway, as the Natural 2088 01:50:04.640 --> 01:50:09.119 Resource Defense Council in our DC explains in a twenty 2089 01:50:09.319 --> 01:50:13.640 twenty two analysis, chemical recycling typically falls into two categories, 2090 01:50:13.960 --> 01:50:17.720 plastic to fuel and plastic to chemical. Plastic to fuel 2091 01:50:17.800 --> 01:50:22.600 conversion involves prilosis and gasification, both of which use heat 2092 01:50:22.680 --> 01:50:26.119 and chemical processes to break down plastic waste into products 2093 01:50:26.159 --> 01:50:29.840 that are turned into fuels. Plastic to chemical processes use 2094 01:50:30.079 --> 01:50:33.960 treatments such as heat and solvents to create feedstocks that 2095 01:50:34.720 --> 01:50:39.000 proponents claim can be turned into other chemicals and new plastics. 2096 01:50:39.560 --> 01:50:44.600 Both categories are teeming with health, environmental, social, and economic concerns, 2097 01:50:45.600 --> 01:50:48.159 So right off the rip, both of these options are 2098 01:50:48.720 --> 01:50:52.960 there's massive red flags, multiple massive red flags on the 2099 01:50:53.039 --> 01:50:55.560 play for both of them. But they're saying that they're 2100 01:50:55.680 --> 01:51:00.600 promising new solutions. Specifically, plastic to fuel converts and produces 2101 01:51:00.640 --> 01:51:04.600 harmful air pollution and greenhouse gases when burned. The NRDC 2102 01:51:04.800 --> 01:51:10.439 found that Aglix a Gillix Okay, an organ get based 2103 01:51:10.600 --> 01:51:14.359 processing plant hailed as a gold standard of chemical recycling, 2104 01:51:15.000 --> 01:51:18.359 has produced hundreds of thousands of pounds of toxic waste 2105 01:51:18.399 --> 01:51:22.119 in a single year. Cool In addition, many and this 2106 01:51:22.199 --> 01:51:25.520 is an organ dude, these people care about the environment 2107 01:51:25.760 --> 01:51:28.119 and this place that everybody's giving their plastics to because 2108 01:51:28.119 --> 01:51:31.680 oh they're recycling it. It's good for hundreds of thousands 2109 01:51:31.760 --> 01:51:34.239 of pounds of toxic waste in a year. 2110 01:51:35.319 --> 01:51:37.520 I don't know if everybody in organs about that life, 2111 01:51:37.960 --> 01:51:38.119 you know. 2112 01:51:38.359 --> 01:51:40.119 I feel like most are. Well. 2113 01:51:40.199 --> 01:51:43.439 There was the whole Portland Chaz situation, and they were 2114 01:51:43.600 --> 01:51:48.520 definitely not recycle of the mind of being recycling, you 2115 01:51:48.600 --> 01:51:49.520 know what, and very. 2116 01:51:49.439 --> 01:51:51.520 Green of them. I see what you're saying for sure. 2117 01:51:53.079 --> 01:51:55.920 In addition, many of these facilities are in or near 2118 01:51:56.079 --> 01:51:59.319 low income communities with residents who are more vulnerable to 2119 01:51:59.439 --> 01:52:04.000 health risks. Basically, you put a chemical melting plant next 2120 01:52:04.039 --> 01:52:06.399 to the hood, and the people around that place are 2121 01:52:06.640 --> 01:52:09.439 now suffering from all kinds of health issues, and well, 2122 01:52:09.680 --> 01:52:09.960 you know. 2123 01:52:11.880 --> 01:52:14.279 Don't care better the people than the earth though, right. 2124 01:52:15.159 --> 01:52:19.239 Exactly exactly, So if chemical recycling is not the solution, 2125 01:52:19.439 --> 01:52:23.000 then why do so many proposed EPR policies green wash 2126 01:52:23.079 --> 01:52:26.840 plastic to fuel processes as recycling Because it's simpler and 2127 01:52:27.039 --> 01:52:29.920 less expensive. Of course, this is true among many of 2128 01:52:29.960 --> 01:52:34.239 the environmental actions various companies have taken up. Now, we're 2129 01:52:34.279 --> 01:52:36.279 not gonna get into the green washing just yet. I'm 2130 01:52:36.279 --> 01:52:38.239 actually gonna save that for a little bit later here, 2131 01:52:38.359 --> 01:52:41.560 but I feel like it needs to be made mention 2132 01:52:41.720 --> 01:52:48.840 of this. Now, Plastics are not biodegradable, Okay, Now paper 2133 01:52:49.319 --> 01:52:53.000 is biodegradable. Glass not so much. But I mean it's 2134 01:52:53.039 --> 01:52:56.399 from sand, so it's not gonna necessarily hurt the earth 2135 01:52:56.479 --> 01:52:58.840 to bury glass. But there's like you could use it again, 2136 01:52:58.920 --> 01:53:04.880 so why would you? Right? Cans are technically biodegradable, but 2137 01:53:05.039 --> 01:53:08.439 it takes like five hundred years for a coke can 2138 01:53:09.000 --> 01:53:11.560 to go back to its or state and be returned 2139 01:53:11.600 --> 01:53:15.039 to the earth, So like by definition it's biodegradable, but 2140 01:53:15.119 --> 01:53:17.600 it's not that's not what we should be doing with it. Right. 2141 01:53:18.319 --> 01:53:20.159 But I know what you're about to say, good cult 2142 01:53:20.239 --> 01:53:25.520 members out there. If recycling doesn't work, then wait a minute. 2143 01:53:26.279 --> 01:53:28.479 If plastics, right, they're not biodegradable. 2144 01:53:28.840 --> 01:53:34.159 Now they can weather into something called microplastics. We will 2145 01:53:34.199 --> 01:53:35.880 get to that in a little bit. They can weather 2146 01:53:36.039 --> 01:53:41.159 and deteriorate into microplastics. But they do not ever get like, 2147 01:53:41.439 --> 01:53:43.039 they don't go back to the Earth in any kind 2148 01:53:43.079 --> 01:53:45.279 of natural way. You can't get rid of them. But 2149 01:53:45.319 --> 01:53:46.199 I know what you're about to say. 2150 01:53:46.239 --> 01:53:49.319 But Jacob, what about the green triangle on all the 2151 01:53:49.359 --> 01:53:53.399 plastic bottles we see? What about the little recycling logo 2152 01:53:53.800 --> 01:53:56.000 with the number inside of it? This means that it 2153 01:53:56.079 --> 01:53:59.560 can be recycled, right, Well, let's just learn a little 2154 01:53:59.560 --> 01:54:01.319 bit about that, right. They would have you pretty much 2155 01:54:01.359 --> 01:54:03.920 who doesn't know, huh, that's what they would have you believe. 2156 01:54:04.439 --> 01:54:06.600 That's what they would have you believe, dude. Now, for 2157 01:54:06.680 --> 01:54:10.680 anybody who doesn't know, the little green triangle icon with 2158 01:54:10.760 --> 01:54:13.319 the number inside of it was created by a college 2159 01:54:13.359 --> 01:54:16.760 student and he got paid twenty five hundred dollars for 2160 01:54:16.880 --> 01:54:18.760 and he ended up going to Stockholm for some school 2161 01:54:18.800 --> 01:54:21.760 with it. But here's a quick little story about the 2162 01:54:21.880 --> 01:54:24.600 creator of the recycling logo. You may or may not 2163 01:54:24.800 --> 01:54:27.239 know about this, but they pretty much screwed this kid. 2164 01:54:27.800 --> 01:54:30.640 How a student designed the recycling logo and got him 2165 01:54:30.640 --> 01:54:34.479 easily twenty five hundred bucks. In nineteen seventy, Gary Anderson 2166 01:54:34.600 --> 01:54:36.399 was a twenty three year old college student at the 2167 01:54:36.479 --> 01:54:41.479 University of Southern California when a Chicago container company held 2168 01:54:41.479 --> 01:54:44.840 a design contest to raise awareness about the environment. Anderson's 2169 01:54:44.840 --> 01:54:49.199 submission won, and it became the internationally recognized recycling logo 2170 01:54:49.520 --> 01:54:52.720 and a design classic that ranks with the Coca Cola 2171 01:54:52.800 --> 01:54:55.239 and Nike marks for sheer ubiquity. 2172 01:54:56.479 --> 01:55:00.039 I mean, it's a very very recognizable logo, right, and 2173 01:55:00.119 --> 01:55:03.399 it's it is one of those logos that has made 2174 01:55:03.399 --> 01:55:05.359 its way not just in America but around the world. 2175 01:55:05.560 --> 01:55:08.800 People know that that is the symbol for recycling. And 2176 01:55:08.920 --> 01:55:10.359 I mean yeah, I. 2177 01:55:10.399 --> 01:55:14.079 Mean essentially, it's kind of like a new age or boros. 2178 01:55:14.279 --> 01:55:17.199 If you think about it, snake eating its tail, you know, 2179 01:55:17.399 --> 01:55:20.399 that's that's that's really what the snake. The whole idea 2180 01:55:20.520 --> 01:55:22.439 of the or boros and the snake eating its own 2181 01:55:22.479 --> 01:55:26.560 tail is that it's recycling. Into itself or it's you know, uh, 2182 01:55:26.960 --> 01:55:30.720 coming back. It's gonna be reborn and recycle and come 2183 01:55:30.840 --> 01:55:33.239 back and live it and continue. So it's kind of 2184 01:55:33.239 --> 01:55:34.720 the same thing there, you go. 2185 01:55:34.800 --> 01:55:36.960 You want to talk about some occult symbolism being used 2186 01:55:37.079 --> 01:55:39.960 and being a thing that our logo, Our brain sees 2187 01:55:40.079 --> 01:55:42.960 that and it's a logo and it just knows what 2188 01:55:43.119 --> 01:55:45.000 this is. One hundred percent with you, dude. That's the 2189 01:55:45.000 --> 01:55:48.760 whole principle of recycling, right to give something old new life. 2190 01:55:49.560 --> 01:55:52.800 That's that's the entire principle. This glass coke bottle, I 2191 01:55:52.880 --> 01:55:55.560 could throw it away or I could recycle it and 2192 01:55:55.680 --> 01:55:57.640 it will have a new life and it will be 2193 01:55:57.760 --> 01:56:00.159 refilled with a beverage and someone else will be able 2194 01:56:00.239 --> 01:56:00.680 to use it. 2195 01:56:00.720 --> 01:56:04.239 And that's the entire principle. So yeah, yeah, help plastic 2196 01:56:04.319 --> 01:56:07.800 reincarnate you know. Well no, I've not plastic, but we'll 2197 01:56:07.840 --> 01:56:09.600 get to that in a moment. Well that's the idea 2198 01:56:09.680 --> 01:56:11.279 behind the logo, you know. 2199 01:56:11.439 --> 01:56:11.680 Yeah. 2200 01:56:12.800 --> 01:56:16.119 So Financial Times magazine ran a first person retrospective in 2201 01:56:16.199 --> 01:56:19.800 which Anderson recounts the experience. This is his words. He goes, 2202 01:56:19.840 --> 01:56:21.840 it didn't take me long to come up with my design. 2203 01:56:21.920 --> 01:56:24.680 A day or two. I almost hate to admit that now, 2204 01:56:24.960 --> 01:56:27.680 but I had already done a presentation on recycling wastewater, 2205 01:56:27.720 --> 01:56:29.520 and I'd come up with a graphic that described the 2206 01:56:29.600 --> 01:56:33.560 flow of water from reservoirs through the through to consumption. 2207 01:56:33.760 --> 01:56:36.680 So I already had arrows and arcs and angles in 2208 01:56:36.720 --> 01:56:39.880 my mind. The problem with my earlier design is was 2209 01:56:39.920 --> 01:56:43.199 that it seemed flat, two dimensional. When I sat down 2210 01:56:43.279 --> 01:56:45.880 to enter the competition, I thought back to a field 2211 01:56:45.920 --> 01:56:49.119 trip in elementary school to a newspaper office where we'd 2212 01:56:49.199 --> 01:56:52.279 seen how paper was fed over rollers as it was printed. 2213 01:56:52.560 --> 01:56:55.039 I drew on that image. The three arrows in my 2214 01:56:55.159 --> 01:56:58.920 final sketch look like strips of folded over paper. I 2215 01:56:59.039 --> 01:57:01.920 drew them in pencil and then traced over everything in 2216 01:57:02.079 --> 01:57:06.199 black ink. These days, with computer graphic packages, it's rare 2217 01:57:06.319 --> 01:57:10.319 that designs are are quite as stark. So, despite the 2218 01:57:10.359 --> 01:57:14.720 clear talent for the medium, Anderson actually became an architect 2219 01:57:14.840 --> 01:57:18.520 or an architect rather than a graphic designer, and ironically 2220 01:57:18.680 --> 01:57:22.359 learned to lament environmental regulations from time to time. But 2221 01:57:22.600 --> 01:57:24.960 I won't spoil the whole story here. Check out the 2222 01:57:25.000 --> 01:57:27.119 full Okay, we don't need to yeah that a thing. 2223 01:57:27.199 --> 01:57:30.960 So Basically, this kid came up with an idea and 2224 01:57:31.239 --> 01:57:33.359 he got paid. It was a contest and it was 2225 01:57:33.479 --> 01:57:37.159 like a He got two thousand dollars for one portion 2226 01:57:37.279 --> 01:57:38.800 of the contest, and I think he got like five 2227 01:57:38.920 --> 01:57:41.640 hundred dollars in a royalty of some type. He used 2228 01:57:41.640 --> 01:57:43.880 it to go to Stockholm and go to school for 2229 01:57:43.960 --> 01:57:46.239 like a semester or something to take a course out 2230 01:57:46.279 --> 01:57:49.039 that way, which is fine, but keep in mind he 2231 01:57:49.119 --> 01:57:53.039 became an architect and ended up hating regulations that got 2232 01:57:53.119 --> 01:57:55.720 in the way of him making money. So take that 2233 01:57:55.840 --> 01:57:59.279 with whatever grain of salt you want. But now the 2234 01:57:59.479 --> 01:58:02.680 logo self a little triangle there. Okay, we know what 2235 01:58:02.800 --> 01:58:06.560 that symbol means. But when it comes to plastics, what 2236 01:58:06.680 --> 01:58:09.600 about that little number inside the triangle? Have you ever 2237 01:58:09.640 --> 01:58:10.720 thought about what that might. 2238 01:58:10.600 --> 01:58:13.720 Be, Jonathan, I just assumed that that was the it's 2239 01:58:13.840 --> 01:58:18.079 like you see on the back of like big tanker trucks, 2240 01:58:18.239 --> 01:58:21.000 like a biohazard kind of number. I assumed that that's 2241 01:58:21.000 --> 01:58:21.359 what it was. 2242 01:58:22.359 --> 01:58:25.119 So once upon a time someone told me that that 2243 01:58:25.319 --> 01:58:29.039 was the number of reuses that that bottle was able 2244 01:58:29.119 --> 01:58:31.600 to take before the chemicals would start leaching out of it. 2245 01:58:32.199 --> 01:58:35.239 To the point we made earlier. That made no sense 2246 01:58:35.319 --> 01:58:37.279 to me, but sure I ran with it because I 2247 01:58:37.319 --> 01:58:39.479 didn't think to do any kind of real researcher digging 2248 01:58:39.560 --> 01:58:42.920 into it. Just so everybody's clear, the little number inside 2249 01:58:42.960 --> 01:58:46.399 the triangle is actually an industry code for to label 2250 01:58:46.479 --> 01:58:49.039 what type of plastic is being used on that part 2251 01:58:49.079 --> 01:58:54.760 of the bottle, right, So number one is PET, number 2252 01:58:54.800 --> 01:58:57.279 two is HDPE. We'll get to all of these in 2253 01:58:57.359 --> 01:58:57.960 a moment. 2254 01:58:57.800 --> 01:59:00.439 But these basically different types of plastic then. 2255 01:59:00.840 --> 01:59:06.920 Exactly exactly, So number three, six, and seven are literally 2256 01:59:07.359 --> 01:59:12.920 not recyclable, like zero percent recyclable. So number three is PVC. 2257 01:59:13.640 --> 01:59:15.800 We all know what PVC pipe is, right. If you 2258 01:59:15.880 --> 01:59:17.840 see a low recycled symbol with the number three in it, 2259 01:59:18.199 --> 01:59:21.239 that would be polyvinal chlory. That's what that is. Number 2260 01:59:21.319 --> 01:59:27.199 six is polystyrene styrofoam essentially, and number seven literally every 2261 01:59:27.319 --> 01:59:29.920 fucking thing else that's not listed in the first six, 2262 01:59:30.880 --> 01:59:36.079 and none of those are recyclable. There's only I looked 2263 01:59:36.119 --> 01:59:36.359 it up. 2264 01:59:36.399 --> 01:59:36.479 Bro. 2265 01:59:36.640 --> 01:59:40.760 There is the strangest chain of events with the sheer 2266 01:59:40.800 --> 01:59:44.439 amount of luck thrown in that you could possibly recycle 2267 01:59:44.520 --> 01:59:46.000 one of these things and it gets used for the 2268 01:59:46.079 --> 01:59:49.840 intended purpose mostly those just get thrown straight to the landfill. 2269 01:59:50.079 --> 01:59:52.399 But why do they put it in the recycling logo 2270 01:59:52.520 --> 01:59:56.520 you might ask to make you feel good for recycling. 2271 01:59:57.079 --> 01:59:59.840 It's a psi op, that's literally it now. 2272 02:00:00.520 --> 02:00:04.920 Number one and two that would be PET, which is 2273 02:00:05.000 --> 02:00:06.039 poly ethyl. 2274 02:00:07.840 --> 02:00:11.479 Shit. I forgot to write that down. PET, it's a 2275 02:00:11.520 --> 02:00:15.239 type of plastic. And number two which is HDPE, which 2276 02:00:15.319 --> 02:00:19.960 is high density polyethylene. Basically milk jugs and coke bottles. 2277 02:00:20.680 --> 02:00:22.840 That is the types of plastic that they are, and 2278 02:00:23.079 --> 02:00:26.760 they have at least some fucking snowballs chance in hell 2279 02:00:26.960 --> 02:00:31.159 of actually being recycled. So unless it's the little triangle 2280 02:00:31.159 --> 02:00:32.800 that you see on your plastic bottle with a number 2281 02:00:32.840 --> 02:00:35.520 one or number two inside of it, it's going to 2282 02:00:35.600 --> 02:00:37.760 a landfill. There's no way around that. 2283 02:00:38.239 --> 02:00:42.239 PET plastic stands for polyethylene terra thlate. 2284 02:00:42.960 --> 02:00:45.479 Thank you, I forgot what that tea stood for. But yeah, 2285 02:00:45.560 --> 02:00:48.159 So basically what I'm saying, the milk jug type of 2286 02:00:48.199 --> 02:00:51.119 plastic and your coke and water bottle type of plastic, yes, 2287 02:00:51.199 --> 02:00:53.560 there is a chance in hell that they could be recycled. 2288 02:00:54.119 --> 02:00:56.279 More often than not, they're not going to. But that's 2289 02:00:56.319 --> 02:00:59.479 because of contamination, which we'll get to in a moment, which. 2290 02:00:59.319 --> 02:01:02.560 Is actually an amazing that even they would ever even 2291 02:01:02.680 --> 02:01:06.560 get to nine percent in a whole year recycling, if 2292 02:01:06.640 --> 02:01:09.439 you're running off of those stipulations, like nine percent is 2293 02:01:09.439 --> 02:01:12.199 a pretty fucking good feat at that point, I would think. 2294 02:01:12.840 --> 02:01:16.920 But it's usually somewhere between five and seven percent of 2295 02:01:17.319 --> 02:01:21.840 all plastics that clean that they can be recycled all honestly, 2296 02:01:21.920 --> 02:01:25.159 it's it's one out of every twenty coke bottles are 2297 02:01:25.199 --> 02:01:26.239 actually being recycled. 2298 02:01:26.359 --> 02:01:29.279 So you're saying that they keep so what was it, 2299 02:01:29.560 --> 02:01:34.479 numbers three, six, and seven are unrecyclable. Yeah, and they 2300 02:01:34.720 --> 02:01:37.399 put those numbers on there, and they keep the recycling 2301 02:01:38.079 --> 02:01:42.119 logo the sigil, let's just call it, and they keep 2302 02:01:42.199 --> 02:01:44.800 that on there just to make you feel good about recycling. 2303 02:01:45.079 --> 02:01:47.359 And and here's the sih op within that, if you 2304 02:01:47.399 --> 02:01:51.239 think about it, just like from a psychological standpoint, even 2305 02:01:51.319 --> 02:01:54.279 though you know or even though they know that those 2306 02:01:54.359 --> 02:01:57.800 are not recyclable, they're still putting it on there because 2307 02:01:57.960 --> 02:02:01.640 now it's essentially telling the people, look, you gotta recycle. 2308 02:02:01.720 --> 02:02:03.720 We put the little recycling thing on there. You have 2309 02:02:03.880 --> 02:02:06.399 to do it, and that way, whenever it's not recycled, 2310 02:02:06.439 --> 02:02:08.600 or it can't be recycled. They can, they can put 2311 02:02:08.600 --> 02:02:10.680 all the blame on the public because we had that logo. 2312 02:02:10.720 --> 02:02:14.680 It's your fault, exactly. It is a virtue signal. 2313 02:02:14.760 --> 02:02:17.760 It's a guilt trip, and or it makes you feel 2314 02:02:17.840 --> 02:02:20.520 good to recycle these things because you feel like you're 2315 02:02:20.560 --> 02:02:21.680 doing good for the earth. 2316 02:02:22.479 --> 02:02:27.439 It's a complete mind fuck. Everything's a fucking scam, dude. 2317 02:02:27.520 --> 02:02:29.920 Every single thing is a scam. I'm so tired of 2318 02:02:30.000 --> 02:02:34.399 this shit, dude, like ever, so tired of just people 2319 02:02:34.760 --> 02:02:39.760 lying to you. They seem they seemingly care, they seemingly 2320 02:02:39.920 --> 02:02:43.600 are genuine, they seemingly are sincere. You know, it's like 2321 02:02:43.720 --> 02:02:46.119 it just reminds me of the whole like the Rock 2322 02:02:46.199 --> 02:02:49.000 and Oprah situation. With the Maui fires, they're trying to 2323 02:02:49.039 --> 02:02:51.760 make everybody else say, if you could only contribute just 2324 02:02:51.800 --> 02:02:53.640 a couple of dollars, It's like, bitch, both of y'all 2325 02:02:53.640 --> 02:02:57.960 are billionaires, fucking contribute a little something, you know, Like literally, 2326 02:02:58.039 --> 02:03:00.760 between you two, you could rebuild all of Maui. 2327 02:03:01.640 --> 02:03:03.920 You could. You could. Now let's talk about this, the 2328 02:03:04.039 --> 02:03:06.600 virtue signaling of it. Right. So now, polls show that 2329 02:03:06.720 --> 02:03:10.159 a third of all Americans recycle. First of all, I'm 2330 02:03:10.199 --> 02:03:13.399 gonna call bullshit on that. Who can really trust the pole? Like, 2331 02:03:13.520 --> 02:03:16.039 does that mean that the person polling was like, yeah, 2332 02:03:16.199 --> 02:03:18.439 if I have the option, Like there's at the airports, 2333 02:03:18.439 --> 02:03:21.159 there's a trash pile and a recycling pile right there, 2334 02:03:21.159 --> 02:03:23.760 and I've thrown a coke bottle into a recycling bin 2335 02:03:23.840 --> 02:03:26.680 before I recycle. Or how many of these people were 2336 02:03:26.720 --> 02:03:30.159 actually saying no, I actively break apart my trash and 2337 02:03:30.239 --> 02:03:32.439 I am like separating it by color and by this 2338 02:03:32.560 --> 02:03:34.960 and by this, and I actually recycle. Who fucking knows. 2339 02:03:35.520 --> 02:03:40.119 But allegedly the poles quote unquote show that a third 2340 02:03:40.159 --> 02:03:44.000 of all Americans recycle. But again, I'm calling bullshit on that. 2341 02:03:44.520 --> 02:03:48.239 But it is understood that America produces the largest amount 2342 02:03:48.279 --> 02:03:53.560 of waste in the world annually, and our recycling centers 2343 02:03:54.159 --> 02:03:57.479 simply can't keep up. If that is a true number, 2344 02:03:57.680 --> 02:04:00.720 and if a third of Americans are actually over one 2345 02:04:00.840 --> 02:04:05.359 hundred million people are actively recycling the correct way, we 2346 02:04:05.479 --> 02:04:09.119 don't have enough recycling centers to actually handle that kind 2347 02:04:09.119 --> 02:04:12.239 of influx of them. That's just not in the cards. 2348 02:04:12.800 --> 02:04:17.239 So what did our boomer politicians do to fix quote 2349 02:04:17.319 --> 02:04:21.880 unquote the problem when the time came, they outsourced because 2350 02:04:21.920 --> 02:04:24.039 that's the only thing these fuckers know how to do 2351 02:04:24.640 --> 02:04:26.800 is outsource it to someone else and make it someone 2352 02:04:26.840 --> 02:04:29.880 else's problem. I know, I'm not just trying to shoot 2353 02:04:29.920 --> 02:04:32.560 on boomers, but also, like, for fuck's sake, don't ever 2354 02:04:32.720 --> 02:04:36.000 like attack a problem head on, blame someone else for 2355 02:04:36.079 --> 02:04:37.720 it once you outsource it to them, and then they 2356 02:04:37.760 --> 02:04:39.880 couldn't handle the problem, so you have a finger to 2357 02:04:39.960 --> 02:04:42.279 point rather than a solution to the anyway. 2358 02:04:42.479 --> 02:04:45.079 Not to be pony here, but did they literally kick 2359 02:04:45.119 --> 02:04:46.039 the can down the road? 2360 02:04:46.760 --> 02:04:51.439 That is literally what they did. Yes, literally and figuratively, 2361 02:04:51.960 --> 02:04:55.520 and mostly they outsource it to China. Now, China and 2362 02:04:55.640 --> 02:04:59.800 Indonesia are responsible for around five million tons of plastic 2363 02:05:00.439 --> 02:05:03.680 in the ocean every year, which is about one third 2364 02:05:03.760 --> 02:05:05.159 of all global debris. 2365 02:05:06.039 --> 02:05:10.399 That is oh my god, that is absurd. 2366 02:05:11.520 --> 02:05:14.479 Have you heard of the plastic Island, Jonathan. 2367 02:05:14.359 --> 02:05:14.560 I have? 2368 02:05:14.880 --> 02:05:19.359 Yeah, good COLT members, just give you two right, Oh yes, 2369 02:05:19.439 --> 02:05:21.840 it is good COLT members. If you've never heard of 2370 02:05:21.960 --> 02:05:24.720 the plastic Island, let me go ahead and show you 2371 02:05:24.800 --> 02:05:28.680 this little video and let's learn about it together, shall This. 2372 02:05:28.760 --> 02:05:29.960 Is the great Texas? 2373 02:05:30.760 --> 02:05:35.319 Oh yes, and it's growing bro every year. And it's 2374 02:05:35.359 --> 02:05:38.000 not the only one, it's the largest one. But yeah, 2375 02:05:38.079 --> 02:05:41.479 let's oh buckle up, it's it's disgusting bro. 2376 02:05:42.640 --> 02:05:46.439 Pacific garbage Patch, also known as the Pacific trash Vortex, 2377 02:05:46.760 --> 02:05:49.640 is an area in the North Pacific where circulating water 2378 02:05:49.760 --> 02:05:53.039 currents and wind movements have created an island like area 2379 02:05:53.079 --> 02:05:59.960 of concentrated floating plastic garbage. Constantly growing, it is believed 2380 02:06:00.159 --> 02:06:05.359 to increase in size tenfold every decade. American oceanographer Charles 2381 02:06:05.479 --> 02:06:09.159 Moore first encountered the garbage patch, also known as trash Island, 2382 02:06:09.319 --> 02:06:13.079 in nineteen ninety seven when returning to California after finishing 2383 02:06:13.159 --> 02:06:16.880 the Los Angeles to Hawaii Transback yacht race, and reported 2384 02:06:16.960 --> 02:06:19.680 that it took him seven full days to cross it. 2385 02:06:20.000 --> 02:06:23.640 Twenty years later, and this monstrosity measures around one point 2386 02:06:23.760 --> 02:06:28.840 six million square kilometers and contains approximately eighty thousand tons 2387 02:06:28.880 --> 02:06:31.880 of plastic. That's over twice the size of Texas and 2388 02:06:32.119 --> 02:06:35.159 five hundred times heavier than a house. A surprising thing 2389 02:06:35.199 --> 02:06:37.920 about this area is that, despite its size, it is 2390 02:06:38.079 --> 02:06:41.960 virtually invisible to satellites and aircraft. This is because ninety 2391 02:06:42.039 --> 02:06:44.920 four percent of it is made up of minute fragments 2392 02:06:44.960 --> 02:06:49.439 of plastic called microplastics. This complicates any location and clean 2393 02:06:49.520 --> 02:06:52.199 up process because it means the plastic can only be 2394 02:06:52.359 --> 02:06:56.359 located and retrieved by boat. These microplastics measure just a 2395 02:06:56.439 --> 02:06:59.560 few millimeters in diameter, which also makes it very hard 2396 02:06:59.600 --> 02:07:02.039 to remove and from the ocean without removing a large 2397 02:07:02.039 --> 02:07:05.039 amount of important sea life with them. Another thing that 2398 02:07:05.159 --> 02:07:08.600 complicates this clean up process is that because this plastic 2399 02:07:08.800 --> 02:07:11.319 island is out in the middle of the ocean, miles 2400 02:07:11.319 --> 02:07:15.199 away from any land, no country will accept responsibility for 2401 02:07:15.319 --> 02:07:18.159 its cleanup, and with no funding, it is just left 2402 02:07:18.239 --> 02:07:21.359 to grow. Perhaps the most troubling thing about this floating 2403 02:07:21.399 --> 02:07:24.520 island of trash is that it isn't unique. There are 2404 02:07:24.640 --> 02:07:27.760 similar garbage patches in the North Atlantic discovered in two 2405 02:07:27.800 --> 02:07:31.199 thousand and nine, the Indian Ocean discovered in twenty ten, 2406 02:07:31.359 --> 02:07:34.720 the South Pacific discovered in twenty eleven, and the South 2407 02:07:34.760 --> 02:07:38.520 Atlantic discovered in twenty seventeen. There was even one discovered 2408 02:07:38.560 --> 02:07:42.000 fairly recently in the Mediterranean Sea. There are various nonprofit 2409 02:07:42.119 --> 02:07:46.279 organizations attempting to solve this problem, but they are drastically underfunded, 2410 02:07:46.359 --> 02:07:49.439 and while projects like Mister Beasts Team Seas plan to 2411 02:07:49.600 --> 02:07:53.039 raise thirty million dollars in two months to remove thirty 2412 02:07:53.159 --> 02:07:57.159 million pounds of trash from our oceans are admirable and applaudable, 2413 02:07:57.279 --> 02:08:01.239 they are neither practical nor economical. Thirty and eighty million 2414 02:08:01.279 --> 02:08:04.600 pounds of plastic enter our seas every single day, So 2415 02:08:04.760 --> 02:08:07.880 in the two months it took to remove thirty million pounds, 2416 02:08:08.039 --> 02:08:11.800 approximately three billion pounds more entered, and at a cost 2417 02:08:11.880 --> 02:08:14.720 of one dollar a pound. Today, you would need around 2418 02:08:14.800 --> 02:08:17.720 three hundred and seventy trillion dollars to clear what is 2419 02:08:17.880 --> 02:08:20.720 currently in the ocean, and every day that passes you'll 2420 02:08:20.800 --> 02:08:24.000 need three billion dollars more. It seems the only way 2421 02:08:24.039 --> 02:08:26.079 we can really tackle this problem is to adapt. To 2422 02:08:26.119 --> 02:08:29.119 make changes in our lives to reduce our own dependency 2423 02:08:29.199 --> 02:08:31.920 on plastics and therefore the amount of plastic that ends 2424 02:08:32.000 --> 02:08:35.399 up in our ocean. Stop buying bottled water, avoid takeout 2425 02:08:35.479 --> 02:08:38.960 food that uses single use plastics, recycle all we can, 2426 02:08:39.159 --> 02:08:43.600 avoid buying items with excessive packaging, avoid products that contain microbeads, 2427 02:08:43.760 --> 02:08:46.960 and understand that any plastic products that we don't recycle 2428 02:08:47.119 --> 02:08:49.600 sooner or later will end up in our oceans, and 2429 02:08:49.760 --> 02:08:52.720 that if we as the consumer don't buy plastic. The 2430 02:08:52.840 --> 02:08:54.359 manufacturers won't produce it. 2431 02:08:55.279 --> 02:08:58.520 Okay, real quick, real quick. Everything they talked about with 2432 02:08:58.560 --> 02:09:00.800 the plastic island, that was the sportant part. But how 2433 02:09:00.840 --> 02:09:03.920 do we solve this by reducing our own use of it? 2434 02:09:04.039 --> 02:09:07.800 Bro Reducing our use of plastics doesn't fix the fucking 2435 02:09:07.920 --> 02:09:10.319 island in the ocean currently as we speak. 2436 02:09:11.600 --> 02:09:15.560 Also, how about instead of putting it on the people, 2437 02:09:16.600 --> 02:09:19.079 maybe let's hold the corporations a little bit more liable 2438 02:09:19.119 --> 02:09:19.479 about this. 2439 02:09:20.239 --> 02:09:20.439 Right? 2440 02:09:20.880 --> 02:09:23.439 You see that even then as they're trying to tell 2441 02:09:23.520 --> 02:09:26.319 us about the problem, the guilt tripped you. 2442 02:09:27.079 --> 02:09:29.640 This was that phase change right before your eyes. Good 2443 02:09:29.680 --> 02:09:30.760 cult members, you've seen. 2444 02:09:30.720 --> 02:09:34.760 It, Yeah, right on the screen. This is probably brought 2445 02:09:34.800 --> 02:09:36.720 to you by the ad council A. 2446 02:09:37.600 --> 02:09:40.800 But you saw that right. Even mister Beast with all 2447 02:09:40.800 --> 02:09:44.079 of his resources, he donated thirteen million and cleaned up 2448 02:09:44.079 --> 02:09:47.640 three hundred million, eight billion hit the ocean that timeframe. 2449 02:09:48.199 --> 02:09:52.680 So it literally didn't it helped, but like to what end? 2450 02:09:53.279 --> 02:09:56.399 Yeah, it was basically just a waste of time at 2451 02:09:56.439 --> 02:09:56.840 that point. 2452 02:09:57.119 --> 02:10:00.560 Sadly, So remember how I said, the plastics don't buy iodegrade, 2453 02:10:00.600 --> 02:10:04.640 they don't break down. They in the ocean will denegrate 2454 02:10:04.800 --> 02:10:08.840 into microplastics, which is what's floating in our balls right now, 2455 02:10:09.399 --> 02:10:13.199 but they don't go away, and it makes it damn 2456 02:10:13.199 --> 02:10:16.039 near impossible to clean up because, yeah, you could pick 2457 02:10:16.119 --> 02:10:18.680 up a bottle that's floating in the water. Once that 2458 02:10:18.800 --> 02:10:21.800 degrades into microplastics, you have to like filter the water 2459 02:10:21.960 --> 02:10:26.680 out to collect all of it. It's extremely labor intensive. 2460 02:10:26.840 --> 02:10:29.279 It takes a lot of time and a lot of money. 2461 02:10:29.760 --> 02:10:32.439 So they were saying this video came out three years ago, 2462 02:10:32.520 --> 02:10:34.640 and they were saying that at that moment, it would 2463 02:10:34.680 --> 02:10:39.880 take three hundred and seventy trillion with a T dollars 2464 02:10:40.079 --> 02:10:43.800 to clean up that one trash island. But they already 2465 02:10:43.920 --> 02:10:45.079 know that there's five more. 2466 02:10:46.359 --> 02:10:50.600 So I just looked up. I was interested. Are micro 2467 02:10:51.079 --> 02:10:53.720 you know, cause we're talking about microplastics. Are they essentially 2468 02:10:53.880 --> 02:10:54.880 forever chemicals? 2469 02:10:55.279 --> 02:10:55.439 You know? 2470 02:10:56.079 --> 02:11:01.479 And it says microplastics themselves are not classified as forever chemicals, 2471 02:11:01.760 --> 02:11:05.199 but they can contain or be associated with such chemicals 2472 02:11:05.319 --> 02:11:08.840 like pfas, which do not break down easily in the environment. 2473 02:11:09.000 --> 02:11:13.399 But both microplastics and forever chemicals post significant health and 2474 02:11:13.640 --> 02:11:18.359 environmental risks, so you know too, Now, basically the same thing. 2475 02:11:18.960 --> 02:11:21.199 Now, where did this trashed island come from? 2476 02:11:21.319 --> 02:11:24.680 In the Pacific Ocean, you might ask, right, because America 2477 02:11:24.760 --> 02:11:29.079 has been attempting to clean themselves up since the fifties 2478 02:11:29.119 --> 02:11:31.880 and sixties, right, and the crying Indian ad ran in 2479 02:11:31.960 --> 02:11:32.920 nineteen seventy one. 2480 02:11:33.600 --> 02:11:37.560 Right, So we outsourced to China. And I don't know 2481 02:11:37.600 --> 02:11:42.520 if anybody's paid attention to China's pollution practices, but they 2482 02:11:42.560 --> 02:11:45.560 don't give a fuck about the earth. Pretty Much everything 2483 02:11:45.640 --> 02:11:49.159 we sent to them to deal with ethically, quote unquote, 2484 02:11:49.159 --> 02:11:51.399 they just dumped in the ocean because it's out of sight, 2485 02:11:51.479 --> 02:11:53.640 out of mind for us, and as soon as they 2486 02:11:53.680 --> 02:11:55.239 get it's out of mind, out of sight for them. 2487 02:11:55.560 --> 02:11:57.800 So they actually bought it for pennies on the dollar, 2488 02:11:58.000 --> 02:12:01.359 got paid in American tax dollars, and did nothing but 2489 02:12:01.479 --> 02:12:03.600 dump it into the ocean anyway. And they did that 2490 02:12:03.840 --> 02:12:09.119 up until twenty eighteen with the introduction of Operation National Sword. 2491 02:12:09.920 --> 02:12:11.680 This is a Wikipedia article, and I'm not going to 2492 02:12:11.720 --> 02:12:14.079 bring an article page and I'm not gonna read the 2493 02:12:14.119 --> 02:12:17.239 whole thing, but just so everybody gives a good understanding 2494 02:12:17.319 --> 02:12:21.800 of what this is, the Operation National Sword or ONS, 2495 02:12:22.319 --> 02:12:25.640 was a policy initiative launched in twenty seventeen by the 2496 02:12:25.760 --> 02:12:29.439 government of China. Yes, we mean the CCP and Jijaping 2497 02:12:29.840 --> 02:12:34.720 to monitor and more stringently review recyclable waste imports, not 2498 02:12:35.079 --> 02:12:38.800 the recyclable waste that they were producing. They wanted to 2499 02:12:38.960 --> 02:12:43.119 basically get all countries to stop sending them their shit 2500 02:12:43.720 --> 02:12:46.920 and their garbage. By the first of January twenty eighteen, 2501 02:12:47.039 --> 02:12:50.000 China had banned twenty four categories of solid waste, and 2502 02:12:50.039 --> 02:12:53.840 it also stopped importing plastic waste with a contamination level 2503 02:12:53.920 --> 02:12:59.319 of above zero point zero five percent, which was significantly 2504 02:12:59.359 --> 02:13:01.560 lower than the two ten percent and it previously allowed. 2505 02:13:01.960 --> 02:13:04.439 So what do I mean by that? All right? I 2506 02:13:04.600 --> 02:13:07.319 just had an energy drink in my hand, okay, and 2507 02:13:07.800 --> 02:13:09.560 I drank it and there was still at least a 2508 02:13:09.640 --> 02:13:12.279 few drops left of energy drink in the bottom of 2509 02:13:12.399 --> 02:13:16.960 the can. Okay. So the basically China would have accepted 2510 02:13:17.000 --> 02:13:19.680 it if the can was ten percent full, that is 2511 02:13:19.960 --> 02:13:25.439 a ten percent food contamination for that aluminum can, A 2512 02:13:25.520 --> 02:13:28.680 right with me, they would have taken that. Then they 2513 02:13:28.880 --> 02:13:31.720 changed it that it has to have less than half 2514 02:13:31.840 --> 02:13:37.119 a percent actually, excuse me, less than a point zero 2515 02:13:37.359 --> 02:13:41.239 five percent contamination. I hate to break it to you. 2516 02:13:41.640 --> 02:13:44.279 The majority of the plastics that we are talking about 2517 02:13:44.319 --> 02:13:47.479 here have a contamination level over that. And we're gonna 2518 02:13:47.520 --> 02:13:50.279 discuss what happens with contaminated recyclables here in a bit. 2519 02:13:50.399 --> 02:13:55.279 But anyway, they were accepting ten percent contamination. Now it's 2520 02:13:55.560 --> 02:13:59.800 zero point zero five percent. Now before the policy, China 2521 02:13:59.800 --> 02:14:03.840 will importing the vast majority of recyclables from North America 2522 02:14:04.000 --> 02:14:07.880 and Europe. For two decades, this practice of buying recyclables 2523 02:14:07.960 --> 02:14:11.520 brought raw materials for the growing industrial capacity of China, 2524 02:14:12.159 --> 02:14:16.000 but also brought a lot of contaminated recyclables which ended 2525 02:14:16.119 --> 02:14:20.199 up accruing in China, causing other environmental concerns such as 2526 02:14:20.399 --> 02:14:23.680 air and water pollution. Now what do I mean by that? 2527 02:14:24.279 --> 02:14:27.960 They started burning it, which created the crazy smog that 2528 02:14:28.000 --> 02:14:29.840 you see. How many times have we seen pictures of 2529 02:14:29.960 --> 02:14:32.319 China where the people are walking around with masks on 2530 02:14:32.439 --> 02:14:34.600 their face because the smog is so bad. 2531 02:14:35.159 --> 02:14:37.239 Some of that is because of their cars and burning 2532 02:14:37.279 --> 02:14:39.680 of fossil fuels. The rest of that is from the 2533 02:14:39.720 --> 02:14:42.520 burning of fossil fuels in the form of burning plastics, 2534 02:14:43.319 --> 02:14:47.319 because plastics come from crude oil, and that's literally what 2535 02:14:47.439 --> 02:14:49.920 they are. All those chemical components that we talked about 2536 02:14:50.000 --> 02:14:51.279 are crude. 2537 02:14:51.039 --> 02:14:54.920 Oil derivatives, and burning them produces black smoke, which in 2538 02:14:55.039 --> 02:14:59.399 turn helps the whole small situation and water pollution. What 2539 02:14:59.520 --> 02:15:03.319 do I mean by that dumping trash load after trash 2540 02:15:03.439 --> 02:15:06.159 load after trash load into the China Sea. 2541 02:15:06.880 --> 02:15:10.239 That's what I mean by the way you just made 2542 02:15:10.279 --> 02:15:13.880 me like question my own mind. There, point zero five 2543 02:15:14.000 --> 02:15:15.760 percent is five percent? 2544 02:15:17.800 --> 02:15:21.840 No point zero five percent. You don't move the decimal 2545 02:15:21.880 --> 02:15:25.960 place two over for five percent. This one percent is 2546 02:15:26.199 --> 02:15:29.159 one point zero zero percent. We're already at that place. 2547 02:15:29.760 --> 02:15:32.239 No, no, no, no, one point zero. 2548 02:15:33.600 --> 02:15:34.279 Is one percent. 2549 02:15:34.560 --> 02:15:37.439 No, it's a fraction. So to make up up, to 2550 02:15:37.520 --> 02:15:41.000 make up one hundred percent would be you know, in 2551 02:15:41.239 --> 02:15:44.560 in this kind of way, would just be one No. 2552 02:15:44.680 --> 02:15:48.960 No, no, dude, ten percent is ten point zero. They 2553 02:15:49.000 --> 02:15:51.239 are saying it's point zero five percent. 2554 02:15:52.199 --> 02:15:53.600 No, no, no, I just looked it up. That's what 2555 02:15:53.640 --> 02:15:54.279 I'm trying to tell you. 2556 02:15:55.119 --> 02:15:58.640 No, dude, you're not listening. They already had the percent 2557 02:15:58.760 --> 02:16:01.279 thing here. We're not doing the jumping over two splaces 2558 02:16:01.319 --> 02:16:03.560 to go from a decimal to a percent. This is 2559 02:16:03.600 --> 02:16:06.600 a decimal of a percent. This is a fraction of 2560 02:16:06.680 --> 02:16:07.159 a percent. 2561 02:16:08.840 --> 02:16:14.359 Damn. So what is that a twentieth of one percent 2562 02:16:14.680 --> 02:16:15.279 would be pointed. 2563 02:16:15.439 --> 02:16:17.880 This is yeah, so this is the tenth spot, that's 2564 02:16:17.920 --> 02:16:20.479 the one hundred spots. So basically that's what it's saying. 2565 02:16:22.000 --> 02:16:27.680 Holy, So five hundredths aka one twentieth of a percent of. 2566 02:16:27.760 --> 02:16:34.239 Contamination, damn. And they were accepting ten percent. So like 2567 02:16:34.520 --> 02:16:36.760 like I said, that coke can the aerage you drink 2568 02:16:36.799 --> 02:16:39.159 can if it had ten percent left of the ergy drink, 2569 02:16:39.479 --> 02:16:42.520 China would have accepted it. Now it has to have 2570 02:16:42.719 --> 02:16:48.319 less than zero point zero five percent for the going 2571 02:16:48.399 --> 02:16:53.319 to happen. Exactly exactly, this is what they did. It's 2572 02:16:53.440 --> 02:16:56.719 like one drop, not even that's a fraction of a drop. 2573 02:16:58.479 --> 02:17:02.760 Crazy And so so China, because of this Operation National 2574 02:17:02.840 --> 02:17:06.079 Sword twenty eighteen, decide they're no longer going to be 2575 02:17:06.200 --> 02:17:09.159 taking the trash of America in Europe. And I mean, 2576 02:17:09.200 --> 02:17:11.719 I don't disagree with them on this. I understand what 2577 02:17:11.799 --> 02:17:14.799 they're going after here. We should be addressing our problems, 2578 02:17:14.840 --> 02:17:17.680 not outsourcing it to China. I know there's a crazy 2579 02:17:17.799 --> 02:17:20.639 concept for our politicians to like get behind here, but 2580 02:17:21.520 --> 02:17:25.200 this is what really does need to happen now. Like 2581 02:17:25.280 --> 02:17:28.680 we said, China and Indonesia are responsible for around five 2582 02:17:29.000 --> 02:17:32.280 million tons of plastic waste in the ocean every year. 2583 02:17:33.120 --> 02:17:35.600 That's current. That is not what they were doing in 2584 02:17:35.680 --> 02:17:40.799 twenty fifteen. Those numbers are appalling, and that is why 2585 02:17:41.360 --> 02:17:44.360 the largest trash island is between the coast of America 2586 02:17:44.399 --> 02:17:45.159 and China right now. 2587 02:17:46.360 --> 02:17:51.200 God, okay, yep, So anyway, I mean, eventually this is 2588 02:17:51.239 --> 02:17:54.760 all gonna catch up to humanity, right like it has to. 2589 02:17:54.959 --> 02:17:57.159 Oh yeah, oh, it's already doing it right now. Dude, 2590 02:17:57.360 --> 02:18:02.040 the guy that was uh racing from China to Hawaii, 2591 02:18:02.520 --> 02:18:07.040 it took him seven days to sail through plastic island. 2592 02:18:08.040 --> 02:18:10.520 I mean twice the size of Texas. I mean, think 2593 02:18:10.520 --> 02:18:13.079 about it, Like, if you're starting at one end of Texas, 2594 02:18:13.280 --> 02:18:15.280 Like let's just say you're starting at the east side 2595 02:18:15.319 --> 02:18:17.360 and you're traveling to the west side, it takes ten 2596 02:18:17.479 --> 02:18:21.120 hours to get through Texas driving at seventy seventy five 2597 02:18:21.239 --> 02:18:24.520 eighty miles an hour, So twice the size of that 2598 02:18:24.840 --> 02:18:26.360 I mean. Good God. 2599 02:18:27.440 --> 02:18:31.799 So, whenever China did this new initiative, the recycling centers 2600 02:18:31.920 --> 02:18:36.559 in America are the big cities anyway, panicked and stopped 2601 02:18:36.600 --> 02:18:41.159 recycling altogether because although they told the American public that 2602 02:18:41.200 --> 02:18:43.479 they were recycling it and reusing it, and all this 2603 02:18:44.399 --> 02:18:47.000 they knew the truth. They were putting it either in 2604 02:18:47.159 --> 02:18:50.040 landfills or more often than not, shipping it to China. 2605 02:18:50.520 --> 02:18:54.200 Now that China's not taking anymore, they couldn't just hold 2606 02:18:54.280 --> 02:18:56.079 on to the trash that was coming their way, so 2607 02:18:56.159 --> 02:19:00.280 they just shut down. Okay, now most places started using 2608 02:19:00.360 --> 02:19:03.920 landfills instead, but even still, there's only so many landfills 2609 02:19:03.959 --> 02:19:07.479 to go around. And you can't put contaminated stuff into 2610 02:19:07.559 --> 02:19:09.879 a landfill. Well, it depends on what the contamination is. 2611 02:19:10.000 --> 02:19:12.360 Chemical is different than food. There's levels to this shit. 2612 02:19:12.959 --> 02:19:18.079 But why does recycling fail? Why does recycling plastics fail? 2613 02:19:18.920 --> 02:19:22.799 Long story short. Virgin plastics and what I mean by that, 2614 02:19:22.920 --> 02:19:25.639 are like the first time that that Dasani water bottle 2615 02:19:25.760 --> 02:19:28.680 is ever actually bought and used, that's considered virgin plastic 2616 02:19:28.799 --> 02:19:33.840 first use, right. Virgin plastics are cheaper to make than 2617 02:19:33.879 --> 02:19:37.639 it is to recycle old plastics. For you to take 2618 02:19:37.760 --> 02:19:40.719 that plastic from that Dasagne bottle and melt it down 2619 02:19:40.840 --> 02:19:43.399 and pour it into another mold and create another Dasaani 2620 02:19:43.440 --> 02:19:47.520 bottle is exponentially more expensive than for you to just 2621 02:19:48.159 --> 02:19:50.680 drill for more oil and use that oil to make 2622 02:19:50.719 --> 02:19:53.600 another bottle exponentially more expensive. 2623 02:19:54.239 --> 02:19:58.079 Yeah, I see, and this is never going to happen. 2624 02:19:58.440 --> 02:20:01.479 But I would actually suggest to all of these uh, 2625 02:20:02.000 --> 02:20:05.000 you know, the the plastic bottle companies and you know, 2626 02:20:05.120 --> 02:20:07.639 the glass bottle, the aluminum cans, all that kind of stuff, 2627 02:20:07.920 --> 02:20:11.040 I would actually suggest that they should be held liable 2628 02:20:11.639 --> 02:20:15.760 for you know, for this trash island, for the you know, 2629 02:20:15.879 --> 02:20:19.079 certain landfills and everything. If we held them accountable instead 2630 02:20:19.079 --> 02:20:20.760 of just saying that it's just on the people and 2631 02:20:20.840 --> 02:20:23.680 you got to stop littering, I mean, it doesn't really 2632 02:20:23.799 --> 02:20:27.000 matter because first of all, recycling's a fucking scam. And 2633 02:20:27.479 --> 02:20:29.319 even if you did, most of it's going to end 2634 02:20:29.440 --> 02:20:33.000 up in a landfill anyway. Who's that really helping long term? 2635 02:20:33.440 --> 02:20:36.079 And So if we held the companies and the corporations 2636 02:20:36.120 --> 02:20:39.559 that are actually producing all of these plastics and everything, 2637 02:20:39.879 --> 02:20:43.120 if we held them liable, I guarantee you there would 2638 02:20:43.120 --> 02:20:45.159 be a lot less of it, right, like you got 2639 02:20:45.280 --> 02:20:46.559 to cut the head on the snake off. 2640 02:20:47.280 --> 02:20:51.959 So here's the worst part. They knew, and by they, 2641 02:20:52.040 --> 02:20:55.079 I mean like the corporate groups in America that we're 2642 02:20:55.079 --> 02:20:57.319 trying to push the recycling narrative and all of that lobbyist, 2643 02:20:57.520 --> 02:21:03.440 they knew that recycling isn't a scalable thing, but they 2644 02:21:03.520 --> 02:21:07.840 pushed it anyway. Leaked documents from the American Chemical Council 2645 02:21:08.040 --> 02:21:12.120 confirmed it just a few years ago. They knew it 2646 02:21:12.200 --> 02:21:14.120 even way back in the seventies that this was not 2647 02:21:14.280 --> 02:21:17.760 going to be something that could actually be viable, Like 2648 02:21:17.879 --> 02:21:20.079 there's no way that we'll ever be able to scale 2649 02:21:20.120 --> 02:21:22.959 up recycling enough to fix the problem that we're creating. 2650 02:21:23.319 --> 02:21:25.600 But we're going to create the problem anyway and tell 2651 02:21:25.680 --> 02:21:29.200 people that recycling is the thing. They knew it, and 2652 02:21:29.280 --> 02:21:31.959 there has been leaked documents that have come to light 2653 02:21:32.600 --> 02:21:35.600 to confirm this. This is an article from a group 2654 02:21:35.680 --> 02:21:38.079 called grist okay, and this is only from a few 2655 02:21:38.159 --> 02:21:42.719 years ago. A new report calls chemical recycling a dangerous deception, 2656 02:21:43.520 --> 02:21:49.639 and a former plastic lobbyist agrees, a plastic lobbyist. 2657 02:21:49.280 --> 02:21:51.440 You heard that, what a real piece of shit you 2658 02:21:51.520 --> 02:21:53.760 gotta be to be a plastic lobbyist. 2659 02:21:54.559 --> 02:21:57.600 And they knew because this is the same thing chemical recycling, 2660 02:21:57.719 --> 02:22:03.159 plastic recycling. This is literally into changeable dialogue. But they 2661 02:22:03.360 --> 02:22:05.760 told the world that this was a that we could 2662 02:22:05.760 --> 02:22:08.680 totally do this. It's on you to recycle. That's why 2663 02:22:08.799 --> 02:22:11.719 you're killing the earth, and this and this. They knew 2664 02:22:11.840 --> 02:22:14.520 what they were doing, they knew how harmful it was, 2665 02:22:15.000 --> 02:22:17.239 and they still pushed it and promoted it, knowing that 2666 02:22:17.440 --> 02:22:21.360 in the best case scenario, we could never scale recycling 2667 02:22:21.520 --> 02:22:24.000 enough to combat the bad that was being done. 2668 02:22:24.319 --> 02:22:26.280 But they said, fuck it and send it anyway. Let's 2669 02:22:26.280 --> 02:22:28.719 read into I mean, here's the thing. Shifting the blame 2670 02:22:28.840 --> 02:22:30.200 does not solve the problem. 2671 02:22:30.799 --> 02:22:32.239 No, no, it doesn't. 2672 02:22:33.280 --> 02:22:37.799 So anyway, it says. As petrochemical companies continue to inundate 2673 02:22:37.879 --> 02:22:40.959 the world with cheap plastic products and packaging, much of 2674 02:22:41.079 --> 02:22:43.600 which is designed to be used once and then thrown away, 2675 02:22:43.879 --> 02:22:47.639 they've been heavily promoting one solution called chemical recycling. This 2676 02:22:47.799 --> 02:22:50.600 catch all term refers to processes and in technologies that 2677 02:22:50.719 --> 02:22:54.200 break plastics into their molecular building blocks and turn them 2678 02:22:54.239 --> 02:22:57.600 into new products. In theory, chemical recycling is a promising 2679 02:22:57.680 --> 02:23:00.719 way to deal with so called hard to recycle plastics 2680 02:23:01.040 --> 02:23:04.399 like wrappers and bags, which can't be recycled using conventional methods. 2681 02:23:04.600 --> 02:23:08.040 But a new report from the nonprofits Beyond Plastic and 2682 02:23:08.280 --> 02:23:13.639 the International Pollutants Elimination Network or IPN, says chemical recycling 2683 02:23:13.799 --> 02:23:17.360 is a dangerous deception that will only exacerbate pollution and 2684 02:23:17.559 --> 02:23:21.360 environmental injustice while failing to address the plastic crisis. The 2685 02:23:21.680 --> 02:23:25.440 landscape of chemical recycling is littered with pollution and failure, 2686 02:23:25.760 --> 02:23:28.959 and relying on it is a end quote, unreliable and 2687 02:23:29.079 --> 02:23:33.559 polluting approach to resolve the plastic the global plastic crisis, 2688 02:23:34.479 --> 02:23:38.920 the deputy director of Beyond Plastics said, and she and 2689 02:23:39.120 --> 02:23:43.200 the report co authors called on President Joe Biden to 2690 02:23:43.239 --> 02:23:47.280 place a national moratorium on new chemical recycling options in 2691 02:23:47.360 --> 02:23:51.440 the US and urged international negotiators to disavow the process 2692 02:23:51.479 --> 02:23:53.879 as part of the Global Plastics Treaty that will be 2693 02:23:53.959 --> 02:23:58.040 discussed during a third round of negotiations in Nairobi later 2694 02:23:58.159 --> 02:23:58.559 this month. 2695 02:23:59.239 --> 02:24:01.399 Yeah, they went to I forgo to talk about global 2696 02:24:01.479 --> 02:24:05.000 plastic solutions. I find that to be ridiculously ironic in 2697 02:24:05.079 --> 02:24:05.600 and of itself. 2698 02:24:05.680 --> 02:24:08.600 But never mind, Well, at this moment, because China doesn't 2699 02:24:08.600 --> 02:24:10.200 want to take our trash, maybe we can ship it 2700 02:24:10.239 --> 02:24:10.680 to Africa. 2701 02:24:10.799 --> 02:24:14.840 Now, ah, you already see where it's going. Because never 2702 02:24:14.959 --> 02:24:17.799 mind us solving the problem, Let's find someone else to 2703 02:24:17.959 --> 02:24:20.159 fucking outsource the problem too. I swear to God, the 2704 02:24:20.200 --> 02:24:21.239 Boomers anyway. 2705 02:24:21.000 --> 02:24:24.879 Yeah, once once you've already you know, committed to all 2706 02:24:24.959 --> 02:24:27.360 the slave labor with the mining, maybe we can just 2707 02:24:27.440 --> 02:24:30.600 dump all of our trash into the mining ports. Essentially, 2708 02:24:31.120 --> 02:24:31.479 why not. 2709 02:24:31.799 --> 02:24:34.959 You know, it's Africa. It's like, no, dude, no, no, no, 2710 02:24:35.120 --> 02:24:37.239 we could just fix the problem, like y'all could just 2711 02:24:37.280 --> 02:24:38.079 stop doing this shit. 2712 02:24:38.159 --> 02:24:43.360 But anyway, beyond plastics and ipens, one and fifty nine 2713 02:24:43.399 --> 02:24:46.159 page report begins with an overview of the plastic pollution 2714 02:24:46.319 --> 02:24:50.479 crisis in companies undeniable failure to address it through conventional 2715 02:24:50.559 --> 02:24:53.600 recycling methods. According to the Department of Energy, the US 2716 02:24:53.680 --> 02:24:57.760 plastics recycling rate is still only about five percent, despite 2717 02:24:57.879 --> 02:24:59.639 decades spent trying to scale it up. 2718 02:25:00.559 --> 02:25:03.360 Or how earlier I said, like the best year we 2719 02:25:03.559 --> 02:25:07.920 got to nine percent on average, dude, it's somewhere between 2720 02:25:08.079 --> 02:25:10.520 five to seven. Like that's that's just how it goes. 2721 02:25:11.120 --> 02:25:14.600 Notably, this view is supported in a foreword by Lewis Freeman, 2722 02:25:14.879 --> 02:25:17.760 a former vice president of Government Affairs for the Society 2723 02:25:17.799 --> 02:25:21.239 of Plastics Industry, a major lobbying group that in twenty 2724 02:25:21.440 --> 02:25:25.799 sixteen changed its name to the Plastics Industry Association. According 2725 02:25:25.840 --> 02:25:29.040 to Freeman, the plastics industry has long known that recycling 2726 02:25:29.120 --> 02:25:32.639 couldn't realistically manage a significant amount of plastic waste, but 2727 02:25:32.959 --> 02:25:36.840 has spent millions of dollars convincing the public otherwise. Freeman 2728 02:25:37.079 --> 02:25:40.399 implies that chemical recycling is an extension of this deception 2729 02:25:40.520 --> 02:25:42.879 and raises doubts that it will contribute to an industry 2730 02:25:42.920 --> 02:25:46.840 target of end quotes reusing, recycling, or recovering one hundred 2731 02:25:46.879 --> 02:25:49.479 percent of plastic packaging in the US by twenty forty. 2732 02:25:50.200 --> 02:25:50.959 That's laughable. 2733 02:25:51.680 --> 02:25:53.840 That is now. It's a great goal. It's a great 2734 02:25:53.920 --> 02:25:56.840 goal to set, but you already know that it's a 2735 02:25:56.920 --> 02:26:00.600 goal that cannot be achieved. Period. But you're going to 2736 02:26:00.639 --> 02:26:04.159 spend millions, if not billions of dollars to save this 2737 02:26:04.440 --> 02:26:08.559 multi trillion dollar industry every year, and you're just going 2738 02:26:08.639 --> 02:26:10.959 to lobby your little ass off in DC to where 2739 02:26:11.040 --> 02:26:14.399 laws can be passed, not talking about regulations. If anything, 2740 02:26:14.440 --> 02:26:19.600 it's deregulating these plastic industries. Yeah. 2741 02:26:20.799 --> 02:26:24.360 So, the Plastics Industry Association did not respond to Grist's 2742 02:26:24.559 --> 02:26:28.760 requests for comment of Shocker to assess the state of 2743 02:26:28.799 --> 02:26:31.920 chemical recycling in the United States beyond plastics, and IPIN 2744 02:26:32.319 --> 02:26:35.760 and IPEN looked at the countries eleven chemical recycling facilities 2745 02:26:36.000 --> 02:26:39.319 and found that only three are dedicated exclusively to producing 2746 02:26:39.399 --> 02:26:43.280 feedstocks for new plastic products. The rest produce fuel to 2747 02:26:43.360 --> 02:26:46.360 be burned, sometimes in combination with chemicals for industrial use. 2748 02:26:46.680 --> 02:26:50.719 Four facilities are registered with the Environmental Protection Agency as 2749 02:26:50.799 --> 02:26:55.840 generators of hazardous waste, and seven of them are located 2750 02:26:55.920 --> 02:26:58.920 in areas where there is a higher than average concentration 2751 02:26:59.079 --> 02:26:59.959 of people of color. 2752 02:27:00.399 --> 02:27:03.639 Of course, again shocker how that one plays out right. 2753 02:27:04.079 --> 02:27:07.840 This trend aligns with a pattern of environmental injustice within 2754 02:27:07.920 --> 02:27:12.600 the plastics industry, which has concentrated pollution intensive plastic production 2755 02:27:12.719 --> 02:27:16.280 facilities near black and low income communities in Louisiana, Texas 2756 02:27:16.280 --> 02:27:18.639 and Pennsylvania. Oh, three of the states that I've lived in. 2757 02:27:18.799 --> 02:27:21.200 That makes sense. I'm just saying those are the three, 2758 02:27:21.239 --> 02:27:26.440 Ain't it fucking shocker? Meanwhile, the report finds that most 2759 02:27:26.479 --> 02:27:29.319 of the facilities are working only at a pilot or 2760 02:27:29.399 --> 02:27:33.040 demonstration scale and not at full capacity, despite efforts dating 2761 02:27:33.079 --> 02:27:36.159 back to the nineteen eighties to scale up chemical recycling technologies. 2762 02:27:36.520 --> 02:27:39.959 Even if these eleven facilities were processing as much as 2763 02:27:40.040 --> 02:27:43.000 much plastic as they say they can, beyond plastics and 2764 02:27:43.120 --> 02:27:46.920 ipen estimate that they would only go through four hundred 2765 02:27:46.920 --> 02:27:49.600 and sixty thousand metric tons of plastic waste per year, 2766 02:27:50.000 --> 02:27:52.200 which is less than one point three percent of the 2767 02:27:52.239 --> 02:27:54.280 amount generated in the US annually. 2768 02:27:55.479 --> 02:27:59.440 So best case scenario, they can only go for a 2769 02:27:59.600 --> 02:28:03.000 fraction of a drop into the metric bucket of what's 2770 02:28:03.040 --> 02:28:06.959 going on here, and they're only operating at a ooh, 2771 02:28:07.040 --> 02:28:09.959 look what we can do type of scale. They're not 2772 02:28:10.200 --> 02:28:11.200 running at full tilt. 2773 02:28:12.040 --> 02:28:16.399 These findings are consistent with those of other nonprofits and 2774 02:28:16.479 --> 02:28:20.440 media outlets. A twenty twenty one Reuter's investigation, for example, 2775 02:28:20.520 --> 02:28:23.639 found that thirty chemical recycling projects announced by twenty four 2776 02:28:23.719 --> 02:28:27.200 companies were either still operating on a modest scale or 2777 02:28:27.280 --> 02:28:30.479 it closed down with or while more than half were 2778 02:28:30.639 --> 02:28:34.479 years behind schedule. A more recent investigation into one facility 2779 02:28:34.520 --> 02:28:37.719 in North Carolina found that much of the plastic processed 2780 02:28:38.079 --> 02:28:43.040 was disposed of as a toxic waste, despite advertisements claiming 2781 02:28:43.159 --> 02:28:45.319 it to be an environmental success story. 2782 02:28:46.079 --> 02:28:49.079 So real quick, you know we're going to talk about 2783 02:28:49.120 --> 02:28:52.040 contamination here in a moment, but that is what they 2784 02:28:52.079 --> 02:28:55.399 classify as toxic waste. You've heard the theory about like 2785 02:28:56.280 --> 02:29:00.600 don't throw, don't recycle, greasy pizza boxes, because that's contamination. 2786 02:29:01.879 --> 02:29:03.920 We talked about this before. Do you know what they 2787 02:29:04.079 --> 02:29:08.040 do whenever they find one greasy pizza box in the 2788 02:29:08.120 --> 02:29:13.639 recycling truck, the entire truck is considered contaminated and it 2789 02:29:13.840 --> 02:29:18.040 all goes to a toxic waste landfill. Now, let's just 2790 02:29:18.120 --> 02:29:22.879 say that your house recycles responsibly, right, your one house 2791 02:29:23.000 --> 02:29:25.760 does it the right way. Let's say you're street all 2792 02:29:25.840 --> 02:29:30.239 recycled a correct way. What are the chances that every 2793 02:29:30.399 --> 02:29:32.920 single bin that that recycling truck is going to pick 2794 02:29:33.040 --> 02:29:36.079 up that day, every single person is doing it to 2795 02:29:36.200 --> 02:29:39.760 that level, washing out their uh, peanut butter jars, rinsing 2796 02:29:39.799 --> 02:29:42.680 out their coat cans after they're done drinking them, and 2797 02:29:42.799 --> 02:29:46.959 that that truck is going to be one contaminated. 2798 02:29:46.440 --> 02:29:48.319 Well, and this is where you find the scam out 2799 02:29:48.399 --> 02:29:51.319 right here, because they didn't educate people on that. Like 2800 02:29:51.479 --> 02:29:54.600 I didn't know that, literally, I didn't know that. You know, 2801 02:29:55.000 --> 02:29:58.280 even a pizza box was contaminated and not not able 2802 02:29:58.319 --> 02:29:59.879 to be recycled if it had a bit of grease 2803 02:29:59.879 --> 02:30:02.840 on What pizza box doesn't have a bit of grease 2804 02:30:02.920 --> 02:30:03.079 on it? 2805 02:30:03.680 --> 02:30:08.879 Exactly exactly, So the smallest bit of food contamination. The 2806 02:30:09.120 --> 02:30:12.319 entire truck is considered contaminated. So even though you are 2807 02:30:12.440 --> 02:30:15.319 doing your part in recycling and trying to help in 2808 02:30:15.360 --> 02:30:18.440 all this, that doesn't mean that your neighbor or some 2809 02:30:18.840 --> 02:30:21.719 guy two neighborhoods down that's also on that same recycling 2810 02:30:21.760 --> 02:30:23.799 truck is doing it to that level. So all of 2811 02:30:23.840 --> 02:30:26.239 your efforts end up in the same fucking landfill as 2812 02:30:26.280 --> 02:30:28.000 if you were to just throw it in the trash well. 2813 02:30:28.040 --> 02:30:31.280 And that's the trap right there, because they know that 2814 02:30:31.760 --> 02:30:34.440 they don't even really care to educate the public on that. 2815 02:30:35.239 --> 02:30:38.000 And and that's the thing. If you really cared, you 2816 02:30:38.040 --> 02:30:40.600 would educate the public on what contamination is and what 2817 02:30:40.719 --> 02:30:45.040 contamination isn't, right, because those people would be at least 2818 02:30:45.079 --> 02:30:48.040 the people who are super into recycling, those people would 2819 02:30:48.040 --> 02:30:50.479 be a little bit more of the mind to put 2820 02:30:50.559 --> 02:30:52.760 that in another bin, right, because there are a lot 2821 02:30:52.799 --> 02:30:56.360 of people out there that genuinely care about recycling. There's 2822 02:30:56.399 --> 02:30:58.079 nothing wrong with that. I think it's a beautiful thing. 2823 02:30:58.159 --> 02:31:02.559 We should be caring about that if it actually worked. 2824 02:31:03.000 --> 02:31:06.719 But that's the thing doesn't in all of this, dude, 2825 02:31:06.799 --> 02:31:11.440 the plastics themselves most cannot be recycled, but they won't 2826 02:31:11.600 --> 02:31:15.760 educate you on that, right. The glass bottles and the 2827 02:31:15.879 --> 02:31:19.200 mason jars and the metal, the tin cans, all that 2828 02:31:19.559 --> 02:31:22.479 these can be recycled, and most of them do get 2829 02:31:22.559 --> 02:31:26.639 recycled because it's actually economically sound for you to do so. 2830 02:31:27.600 --> 02:31:29.959 Plastics are the main issue here, and of course they're 2831 02:31:30.000 --> 02:31:31.959 not going to educate you on it because they don't care. 2832 02:31:32.040 --> 02:31:34.399 It's going to the landfill anyway, or it's gonna get burned. 2833 02:31:34.520 --> 02:31:37.799 They never cared in the beginning, which is why they 2834 02:31:37.879 --> 02:31:41.079 never cared to educate anybody on it. It's just hey, 2835 02:31:41.280 --> 02:31:44.479 you know, like that, And that's that's really the the 2836 02:31:45.280 --> 02:31:47.719 the brilliance behind all of it in the first place 2837 02:31:48.280 --> 02:31:52.920 is that it's it's almost a fail safe if you 2838 02:31:53.040 --> 02:31:57.520 think about it, that no matter what the corporations or 2839 02:31:57.600 --> 02:31:59.719 the people that are worried about carbon taxing, or the 2840 02:31:59.760 --> 02:32:02.440 people worried about pollution and people worried about you know, 2841 02:32:02.680 --> 02:32:05.879 littering and all that stuff, they always have a fallback 2842 02:32:05.959 --> 02:32:09.719 option to blame the public because you're never going to 2843 02:32:09.799 --> 02:32:12.639 get one hundred percent of people to do what is right. 2844 02:32:12.879 --> 02:32:17.079 It's never going to happen. People even if they believe 2845 02:32:17.200 --> 02:32:20.479 that littering is a bad thing. If they're being told 2846 02:32:20.799 --> 02:32:22.920 what to do and they don't care about the system, 2847 02:32:23.000 --> 02:32:25.520 or if it's fucked the system, You're never going to 2848 02:32:25.520 --> 02:32:27.479 get one hundred percent of people to do one thing. 2849 02:32:27.760 --> 02:32:30.239 It's dude, look a shopping card example. I always give 2850 02:32:30.600 --> 02:32:33.200 one hundred percent. That is a clear sign that even 2851 02:32:33.239 --> 02:32:35.079 though you can see what you need to do and 2852 02:32:35.159 --> 02:32:37.639 there are others that are doing it, you'll watch people 2853 02:32:37.680 --> 02:32:39.559 say fuck it. That's the thing. 2854 02:32:39.719 --> 02:32:42.000 And I actually recently heard and I think there was 2855 02:32:42.000 --> 02:32:43.479 actually a good cult member that said it on the 2856 02:32:43.520 --> 02:32:45.600 live show. And then somebody else recently told me too 2857 02:32:45.840 --> 02:32:47.680 that because I asked them, I was like, do you 2858 02:32:47.879 --> 02:32:50.040 do you? You know, I asked the weird questions whenever 2859 02:32:50.040 --> 02:32:51.760 I'm talking to people, like do you always push the 2860 02:32:51.799 --> 02:32:55.000 buggy back to the to the cardholder? And they're like, honestly, no, 2861 02:32:55.159 --> 02:32:58.360 I don't. And my reason is is because I'm a 2862 02:32:58.399 --> 02:33:00.799 single mom, I have two kids. I'm not walking away 2863 02:33:00.840 --> 02:33:03.280 from my fucking car to go push this into the 2864 02:33:03.360 --> 02:33:05.600 card holder and leaving my kids by themselves. I'm like, 2865 02:33:06.159 --> 02:33:08.000 that's actually logical, it makes sense. 2866 02:33:08.719 --> 02:33:11.000 I get it. I'm not judging those that do. I'm 2867 02:33:11.079 --> 02:33:13.639 just or don't Rather I'm just saying that that's a 2868 02:33:13.760 --> 02:33:17.000 clear sign that you will never get one hundred percent 2869 02:33:17.040 --> 02:33:20.600 of people to get on board with any fucking thing. Ever, 2870 02:33:21.120 --> 02:33:23.280 There's always gonna be outliers, there's always gonna be reasons, 2871 02:33:23.319 --> 02:33:25.280 there's always gonna be exceptions, there's always gonna that that 2872 02:33:26.280 --> 02:33:27.920 doesn't fucking matter. It's all a part of it. 2873 02:33:28.600 --> 02:33:31.559 I mean, even think about because what is it like 2874 02:33:31.840 --> 02:33:36.079 not even fifty percent of like voters or people that 2875 02:33:36.200 --> 02:33:40.040 can vote vote every year, right, And it's like, and 2876 02:33:40.159 --> 02:33:43.920 those people will complain about the economy, they'll complain about policies, 2877 02:33:44.000 --> 02:33:47.559 they'll complain about abortion or whatever the fuck, but then 2878 02:33:47.600 --> 02:33:50.159 they don't even show up. And I understand why because 2879 02:33:50.200 --> 02:33:52.239 I don't think that our vote really gives a fucking 2880 02:33:52.479 --> 02:33:54.479 I don't think it even makes a difference, to be 2881 02:33:54.559 --> 02:33:57.239 honest with you, at this point, you know, the the 2882 02:33:57.319 --> 02:34:01.600 one possible white horse that we is covering up Epstein 2883 02:34:01.680 --> 02:34:05.280 fucking Island. Okay, So I mean I get it, but 2884 02:34:05.520 --> 02:34:07.239 it's like, yeah, you're never gonna get one hundred percent 2885 02:34:07.280 --> 02:34:09.840 of people to do one thing. That's never gonna ever happen. 2886 02:34:10.440 --> 02:34:13.200 Ever, there's always gonna be somebody to do the opposite, 2887 02:34:13.520 --> 02:34:15.920 just to do the opposite because fuck them. 2888 02:34:16.159 --> 02:34:19.000 Oh dude, It's just like, you know, we have certain 2889 02:34:19.079 --> 02:34:23.559 listeners who listen to every single episode, yet after at 2890 02:34:23.600 --> 02:34:26.639 the end of every episode leave a review telling us 2891 02:34:26.680 --> 02:34:27.680 about how much we suck. 2892 02:34:27.879 --> 02:34:30.040 It's like, why are you still listening? You know? 2893 02:34:30.200 --> 02:34:33.319 Like, but people just love to complain, and they love 2894 02:34:33.440 --> 02:34:36.079 to not even just complain, they just want to be 2895 02:34:37.639 --> 02:34:39.360 adversarial at that time. 2896 02:34:40.040 --> 02:34:42.760 I should mention that too. I over the weekend, I 2897 02:34:42.840 --> 02:34:44.760 went to the Spotify and I was kind of reading 2898 02:34:44.840 --> 02:34:47.719 some of the comments on some of the episodes. Y'all 2899 02:34:47.760 --> 02:34:50.879 are some assholes, not just to us. They have people 2900 02:34:51.040 --> 02:34:54.719 fighting each other in the comment section under our videos 2901 02:34:54.799 --> 02:34:56.799 or under our episodes, I should say, And it's like, Bro, 2902 02:34:57.399 --> 02:35:00.280 everybody's in sale to their opinion. People have the to 2903 02:35:00.360 --> 02:35:03.600 be wrong. It's okay, but like, y'all ain't gotta be 2904 02:35:03.760 --> 02:35:05.680 y'a ain't gotta be shitty to nobody. Y'all have to 2905 02:35:05.719 --> 02:35:08.760 be shaded us, although we open ourselves up to that conjecture, 2906 02:35:08.799 --> 02:35:10.120 and like, that's a part of it. You chalk it 2907 02:35:10.200 --> 02:35:12.280 up to the game. Y'all ain't gotta be shitty to 2908 02:35:12.360 --> 02:35:15.600 each other. Play nice, let's be let's be homies about it. 2909 02:35:15.760 --> 02:35:17.719 Come on, now, Well, there's a lot of people that 2910 02:35:18.079 --> 02:35:20.440 you know are keyboard warriors and they hide behind a 2911 02:35:20.479 --> 02:35:23.479 screen and they would never say that to anybody in public, 2912 02:35:23.600 --> 02:35:25.280 and they would never say, you know, they would never 2913 02:35:25.360 --> 02:35:28.239 cuss out either one of us or anybody that they're 2914 02:35:28.360 --> 02:35:31.040 you know, attacking in the comments. But you know, because 2915 02:35:31.079 --> 02:35:32.920 you have the defense guard right up in front of 2916 02:35:32.959 --> 02:35:35.879 you all, I'm gonna come with the name of Needle 2917 02:35:35.959 --> 02:35:38.920 Dick sixty nine, and nobody's ever gonna know that it's me, 2918 02:35:39.239 --> 02:35:41.280 you know what I mean. And so I don't know, 2919 02:35:41.600 --> 02:35:45.719 I mean, modify comments, be wild, whatever, it's fine. 2920 02:35:46.159 --> 02:35:47.959 Oh yeah, it's whatever. But anyway, way back to the 2921 02:35:48.000 --> 02:35:51.040 point here, so they already knew that there's no way 2922 02:35:51.040 --> 02:35:53.799 they're gonna be able to recycle to that level. And 2923 02:35:54.280 --> 02:35:56.799 you're right as far as the education goes, even if 2924 02:35:56.840 --> 02:35:58.799 you were to inform the public, how many people would 2925 02:35:58.799 --> 02:35:59.639 actually do it anyway? 2926 02:36:00.319 --> 02:36:03.440 And that's what I'm saying. You can always the system 2927 02:36:03.680 --> 02:36:06.959 was never set up to clean the atmosphere, to clean 2928 02:36:07.120 --> 02:36:10.120 the earth or anything. The system was always set up 2929 02:36:10.200 --> 02:36:14.120 to push blame onto anybody. But the people that are producing. 2930 02:36:13.719 --> 02:36:19.799 It exactly, because again it's your fault that the company. 2931 02:36:20.239 --> 02:36:22.879 Never mind the fact the company name name, the one 2932 02:36:22.920 --> 02:36:26.360 doesn't matter, Coke, Pepsi, whatever. It's not their fault that 2933 02:36:26.399 --> 02:36:31.319 they're producing five hundred tons of non recyclable trash that 2934 02:36:31.399 --> 02:36:32.920 they know is going to end up in the ocean 2935 02:36:33.040 --> 02:36:37.079 every week. That's not the point you or the problem 2936 02:36:37.360 --> 02:36:40.079 for buying it. That is your fault. You did this, 2937 02:36:40.639 --> 02:36:43.799 random citizen who's mining their own business. You should feel 2938 02:36:43.799 --> 02:36:45.520 guilty about the earth dying. 2939 02:36:45.799 --> 02:36:48.079 Well, and you saw it. You know. The people that 2940 02:36:48.159 --> 02:36:51.639 are part of these lobbyist organizations are Coke, r Pepsi, 2941 02:36:51.799 --> 02:36:56.479 are Anheuser Busch, which are like the main contributors, right. 2942 02:36:56.600 --> 02:36:58.879 Yep, oh yeah, and again we're gonna get back to 2943 02:36:58.920 --> 02:37:02.040 this article now. But they've known that from the beginning, 2944 02:37:02.360 --> 02:37:04.680 and they did it strictly to shift the blame away 2945 02:37:04.719 --> 02:37:08.280 from them so that the people got more regulations on 2946 02:37:08.360 --> 02:37:11.200 what they can and can't do. Meanwhile, their industry got 2947 02:37:11.399 --> 02:37:15.200 less restrictions and less laws telling them that they couldn't 2948 02:37:15.639 --> 02:37:17.280 do certain things. But let's keep going. 2949 02:37:17.559 --> 02:37:21.079 The only thing that actually the only thing actually being 2950 02:37:21.200 --> 02:37:24.319 recycled is the myth that recycling will solve the plastic 2951 02:37:24.399 --> 02:37:28.239 pollution crisis. The new report says it raises concern about 2952 02:37:28.280 --> 02:37:30.879 a spate of state level laws backed by the American 2953 02:37:30.959 --> 02:37:35.719 Chemistry Council what a name, an industry lobbying group to 2954 02:37:35.840 --> 02:37:40.040 promote chemical recycling, including by loosening airror emission controls and 2955 02:37:40.120 --> 02:37:44.399 eliminating monitoring requirements. At least twenty states have passed such 2956 02:37:44.520 --> 02:37:49.520 deregulation laws. Well, that's good, as the American Chemistry Council 2957 02:37:49.600 --> 02:37:53.639 did not respond to Grisk requests for comment obviously. A 2958 02:37:53.760 --> 02:37:57.639 spokesperson for Altero, which operates a chemical recycling facility in Akron, Ohio, 2959 02:37:57.760 --> 02:38:01.159 said the report was riddled with many misleading and erroneous conclusions, 2960 02:38:01.399 --> 02:38:05.879 and specifically described as defamatory the claim that its facility 2961 02:38:06.040 --> 02:38:08.680 was nearing the limits of its air emissions permit while 2962 02:38:08.799 --> 02:38:12.959 operating at below full capacity. The company said Beyond Plastics 2963 02:38:13.079 --> 02:38:18.159 conveniently ignored publicly avoid publicly available documents from a local 2964 02:38:18.239 --> 02:38:22.440 air quality regulator showing that its facilities emissions are significantly 2965 02:38:22.559 --> 02:38:27.360 below the limits of the air emissions permit. So Beyond 2966 02:38:27.399 --> 02:38:31.040 Plastics said Altera's criticism was not based on fact, and 2967 02:38:31.239 --> 02:38:34.479 that the documents the company provided do not negate previous 2968 02:38:34.520 --> 02:38:37.840 findings showing that its facility had nearly violated its air 2969 02:38:38.000 --> 02:38:41.959 emissions permit and that the Ohio EPA decided on two 2970 02:38:42.040 --> 02:38:45.600 occasions not to take enforcement action against it. We stand 2971 02:38:45.680 --> 02:38:48.959 on our report, said Judith and Beyond, Plastic president and 2972 02:38:49.120 --> 02:38:52.399 former regional administrator of the oh Of course she was 2973 02:38:52.479 --> 02:38:56.239 former fucking regional administrator for the EPA. These locks, they 2974 02:38:56.280 --> 02:38:58.000 bounced back and forth. Well, we're going to work for 2975 02:38:58.040 --> 02:39:00.799 the EPA, we really care. Well, let me let me 2976 02:39:00.879 --> 02:39:02.959 be a lobbyist for a fucking plastic company. 2977 02:39:03.079 --> 02:39:05.559 Now, this is interesting. This is the thing. 2978 02:39:05.719 --> 02:39:07.360 You know, we say it all the time with Plastic. 2979 02:39:07.520 --> 02:39:09.600 You know people that are working for Pfizer then they 2980 02:39:09.680 --> 02:39:12.440 go and work for the who. It's like, that is 2981 02:39:12.479 --> 02:39:16.719 how you infiltrate. That is infiltration one oh one. You're 2982 02:39:17.040 --> 02:39:22.280 shaping public perception into into making people believe that organizations 2983 02:39:22.639 --> 02:39:25.840 like you know, these these plastic lobbyists are are fighting 2984 02:39:25.879 --> 02:39:28.520 for the good and fighting for earth. Meanwhile they're jumping 2985 02:39:28.600 --> 02:39:31.280 back over the EPA making it seem like they actually 2986 02:39:31.319 --> 02:39:33.520 give a shit. Well, if every if you have the 2987 02:39:33.600 --> 02:39:37.360 EPA and you have corporations, and you have lobbyists, that 2988 02:39:37.479 --> 02:39:42.000 are all pro earth and pro atmosphere and all this stuff. 2989 02:39:42.280 --> 02:39:45.639 How is it possible that every single fucking landfill is 2990 02:39:45.840 --> 02:39:49.120 overly full? How is it possible that there is a 2991 02:39:49.280 --> 02:39:52.040 giant floating plastic island in the middle of the ocean 2992 02:39:52.239 --> 02:39:55.200 twice the size of Texas if everybody truly cared? How 2993 02:39:55.319 --> 02:39:58.399 is that fucking is all that uh littering growing? 2994 02:39:59.239 --> 02:40:01.600 It's crazy? You can maybe do this thing where you 2995 02:40:02.000 --> 02:40:06.200 follow the money, right, It's really easy to draw. You 2996 02:40:06.200 --> 02:40:08.360 don't have to put pins on a corkboard. You don't 2997 02:40:08.360 --> 02:40:10.799 even have to do that. It's literally a Google search 2998 02:40:10.879 --> 02:40:13.239 followed by a Google search followed by the holy shit 2999 02:40:13.319 --> 02:40:16.360 here we are. Just follow the money trail and it 3000 02:40:16.399 --> 02:40:19.399 will always lead you to the truth. These people don't 3001 02:40:19.479 --> 02:40:21.879 actually give a fuck, and they're gonna tell you, oh, 3002 02:40:21.959 --> 02:40:24.079 we are well below the permissible limits, and this, this 3003 02:40:24.159 --> 02:40:27.920 and this. Meanwhile, the reports that they all the publicly 3004 02:40:28.040 --> 02:40:32.120 available documents that they released show that they are literally 3005 02:40:32.440 --> 02:40:35.479 right at the cusp of being out of compliance and 3006 02:40:35.600 --> 02:40:38.639 they are not operating in full capacity. You can you 3007 02:40:38.719 --> 02:40:41.200 could try to sell that and spend those words any 3008 02:40:41.239 --> 02:40:43.399 way you want. But that's just the facts. 3009 02:40:44.280 --> 02:40:47.760 Beyond plastics said Altera's criticism was not based on fact 3010 02:40:47.840 --> 02:40:49.399 and that the documents. Oh I already read that. 3011 02:40:49.719 --> 02:40:49.879 Yeah. 3012 02:40:50.680 --> 02:40:56.799 Another operator, Nexus Circular sent Grist snippets of its websites 3013 02:40:56.920 --> 02:41:01.000 FAQ page describing the chemical recycling process, and third Exon 3014 02:41:01.079 --> 02:41:04.959 Mobile said chemical recycling was a proven, scalable technology to 3015 02:41:05.000 --> 02:41:07.600 turn plastic ways that would otherwise go to a landfill 3016 02:41:07.920 --> 02:41:10.799 or incineration into valuable new products. 3017 02:41:11.159 --> 02:41:14.879 Oh, Exon Mobile knows that right. I mean, even if 3018 02:41:14.920 --> 02:41:18.079 you were to find a facility where you can scale 3019 02:41:18.159 --> 02:41:21.520 it and all these things, it is literally the same 3020 02:41:21.639 --> 02:41:24.680 conversation as the wind turbines. There is no way that 3021 02:41:24.799 --> 02:41:27.760 that wind turbine is going to produce enough power to 3022 02:41:27.959 --> 02:41:31.000 compensate for the amount of energy it took to construct it. 3023 02:41:31.600 --> 02:41:34.200 There is no way that you're going to get these 3024 02:41:34.280 --> 02:41:36.920 plastics to even to be used as a fuel source 3025 02:41:37.360 --> 02:41:40.719 and produce enough energy from burning that fuel source as 3026 02:41:40.799 --> 02:41:43.360 it took to create the fuel source in the first place. 3027 02:41:44.079 --> 02:41:46.040 It is a net negative overall. 3028 02:41:46.200 --> 02:41:48.319 Well, and that's the thing, Like, I don't want to 3029 02:41:48.440 --> 02:41:51.959 hear from Exon Mobile telling me that it is a 3030 02:41:52.040 --> 02:41:55.639 scalable technology that would work. I don't want to hear 3031 02:41:55.719 --> 02:41:59.120 from the people that stand to gain from pushing this 3032 02:41:59.319 --> 02:42:01.479 kind of idea. I want to hear from the people 3033 02:42:01.840 --> 02:42:04.719 who are are the ones that are vetting it, the 3034 02:42:04.799 --> 02:42:07.600 ones that are investigating it, the ones that are actually 3035 02:42:08.040 --> 02:42:11.360 you know, outside people looking at it from a different 3036 02:42:11.399 --> 02:42:13.559 point of view that don't necessarily have anything to gain. 3037 02:42:13.840 --> 02:42:16.559 Problem is, there isn't anybody like that. 3038 02:42:16.719 --> 02:42:18.920 It doesn't exist, right, you. 3039 02:42:18.959 --> 02:42:24.200 Know, the lobbyist lobbyists work for the companies, they always will. 3040 02:42:24.520 --> 02:42:25.079 The EPA. 3041 02:42:25.479 --> 02:42:28.280 We just saw right there the fucking person that was 3042 02:42:28.360 --> 02:42:33.600 working for the lobbyist organization used to work for the 3043 02:42:33.680 --> 02:42:35.840 EPA and just bouncing back and forth. 3044 02:42:36.079 --> 02:42:39.239 This is all just a fucking game to these people. Now, 3045 02:42:39.280 --> 02:42:42.000 I know someone's gonna say that, Well, maybe they were 3046 02:42:42.040 --> 02:42:44.360 working for the EPA because they really believed in what 3047 02:42:44.440 --> 02:42:47.040 they were doing right, and they wanted to make it better. 3048 02:42:47.079 --> 02:42:48.559 And then when they saw that they couldn't do it 3049 02:42:48.680 --> 02:42:52.120 that way, they decided to go with this Beyond Plastics group, 3050 02:42:52.159 --> 02:42:54.600 which is a group trying to stop the use of 3051 02:42:54.639 --> 02:42:57.680 the plastics and all these things, and that's why they 3052 02:42:57.760 --> 02:43:00.520 just got disgusted with the organization of it. So they 3053 02:43:00.600 --> 02:43:03.360 started and went for this other thing. And I could 3054 02:43:03.440 --> 02:43:07.239 maybe see that in some cases, but again, follow the 3055 02:43:07.319 --> 02:43:09.079 money and it paints a different picture. 3056 02:43:09.479 --> 02:43:13.959 Pure Cycle, which runs a polypropylene purification plan in Iron 3057 02:43:14.040 --> 02:43:18.600 Town or Ironton, Ohio, disputed Beyond Plastics characterization of the 3058 02:43:18.639 --> 02:43:23.040 plant's processes as chemical recycling. Six of six of the 3059 02:43:23.159 --> 02:43:26.680 other seven companies whose chemical recycling facilities are named in 3060 02:43:26.799 --> 02:43:29.639 the new report did not respond to Risk regrests for comment. 3061 02:43:30.760 --> 02:43:34.760 Prima America Corporation, which operates a chemical recycling facility in 3062 02:43:34.799 --> 02:43:37.680 New Hampshire, could not be reached because it does not 3063 02:43:37.799 --> 02:43:41.760 have a website or a publicly listed phone number. Shocker, 3064 02:43:41.840 --> 02:43:44.079 that sounds like a shell organization if I've ever heard one, 3065 02:43:45.079 --> 02:43:46.760 or just those that really don't want to have a 3066 02:43:46.799 --> 02:43:47.719 conversation about it. 3067 02:43:48.239 --> 02:43:48.879 I get that right. 3068 02:43:49.760 --> 02:43:53.239 To stop greenwashing and prevent chemical recycling from further harming 3069 02:43:53.319 --> 02:43:56.840 low income communities and communities of color, Beyond Plastics and 3070 02:43:56.959 --> 02:44:00.879 IPEN call for Biden to declare a moratory on all 3071 02:44:01.040 --> 02:44:04.200 new chemical recycling plants, a step to environmental groups had 3072 02:44:04.239 --> 02:44:08.000 previously suggested the President can take without congressional approval. They 3073 02:44:08.040 --> 02:44:12.719 also recommended that all existing facilities to be subjected to 3074 02:44:13.079 --> 02:44:17.399 full environmental impact assessments. From the EPA. All federal, state, 3075 02:44:17.479 --> 02:44:21.760 and local subsidies and incentives for chemical recycling should be ended, 3076 02:44:22.040 --> 02:44:24.600 the author said in no projects that turn plastic into 3077 02:44:24.600 --> 02:44:25.760 fuel should be allowed. 3078 02:44:26.920 --> 02:44:28.959 I got to agree with that for the most part, 3079 02:44:29.000 --> 02:44:32.639 because again it's a net negative and it actually adds 3080 02:44:32.760 --> 02:44:36.760 more to the toxicity conversation rather than it adds to 3081 02:44:36.959 --> 02:44:40.000 the reusable plastics conversation. 3082 02:44:40.280 --> 02:44:48.200 The toxicity avocity glove system. On the international stage, countries 3083 02:44:48.239 --> 02:44:51.399 are in the midst of negotiating a historic treaty on plastics. 3084 02:44:51.600 --> 02:44:54.639 There's nothing in the treaty yet about chemical recycling. It's 3085 02:44:54.680 --> 02:44:57.600 still a very rough draft, but beyond plastics and IPEN 3086 02:44:57.639 --> 02:45:01.040 says it's critical that that negotiatesator's fight for language that 3087 02:45:01.159 --> 02:45:07.079 explicitly labels it an illegitimate solution to the plastic pollution crisis, 3088 02:45:07.360 --> 02:45:12.000 potentially by classifying it as waste incineration rather than recycling, 3089 02:45:12.200 --> 02:45:15.200 or by blocking it from counting toward mandatory recycling targets. 3090 02:45:15.479 --> 02:45:17.840 The third round of negotiations is scheduled to begin on 3091 02:45:17.920 --> 02:45:21.159 November thirteenth, with the final treaty due to do by 3092 02:45:21.200 --> 02:45:23.600 the end of next year. We do not want the 3093 02:45:23.680 --> 02:45:27.520 treaty negotiators or legislators or regulators to be distracted by 3094 02:45:27.559 --> 02:45:32.319 the false solution of chemical recycling, and told journalists on Tuesday, Instead, 3095 02:45:32.440 --> 02:45:36.319 she urged them to consider the simpler strategy of significantly 3096 02:45:36.399 --> 02:45:37.959 reducing plastic production. 3097 02:45:38.760 --> 02:45:42.719 There you go. There it is. This is the lady 3098 02:45:42.760 --> 02:45:45.200 that used to work for the EPA. Right now she's 3099 02:45:45.239 --> 02:45:47.639 working for Beyond Plastics, and she's saying that there's a 3100 02:45:47.680 --> 02:45:49.879 different way to go about this and we need to 3101 02:45:49.959 --> 02:45:53.840 just handle it right now. That article brought up the ACC, 3102 02:45:54.000 --> 02:45:57.360 which is the American Chemicals Council. For decades, the ACC 3103 02:45:57.559 --> 02:46:01.239 has led us to believe that recycling is the answer, right, 3104 02:46:01.399 --> 02:46:03.520 that's clearly what we got to do to save the planet. 3105 02:46:04.040 --> 02:46:06.879 But it was all a lie. In the US, plastic 3106 02:46:06.920 --> 02:46:09.959 recycling rates, like I said, have never gone above nine percent, 3107 02:46:10.040 --> 02:46:12.239 and on average they're more like a five percent. And 3108 02:46:12.360 --> 02:46:15.479 that was back when recycling mint outsourcing it to China. 3109 02:46:15.840 --> 02:46:18.719 Right now those rates are even lower, and it's disgusting. 3110 02:46:19.280 --> 02:46:21.760 The ACC has even gone as far as to take 3111 02:46:21.920 --> 02:46:25.760 legal action against those who would have disclosed documents relating 3112 02:46:25.799 --> 02:46:29.040 to the truth about recycling. They have literally sent people 3113 02:46:29.120 --> 02:46:33.280 to court to silence them because they knew from day 3114 02:46:33.399 --> 02:46:37.040 one that recycling was not a scalable concept when it 3115 02:46:37.120 --> 02:46:40.200 came to plastics, and they ran with it. Anyway. To 3116 02:46:40.399 --> 02:46:44.559 further that point, we're talking about recycling and contamination, right, 3117 02:46:44.639 --> 02:46:48.879 because what does and does not constitute a contaminated recycling sample? Right? 3118 02:46:49.319 --> 02:46:52.040 This is an article from Rubicon, And if you don't 3119 02:46:52.040 --> 02:46:54.319 know what Rubicon is, it's a plant that makes plastics. 3120 02:46:54.680 --> 02:46:57.959 It's a contributor. And of course they're trying to educate 3121 02:46:58.000 --> 02:47:00.639 the public by releasing these types of documents. Right. 3122 02:47:00.719 --> 02:47:03.319 So there's in Louisiana, isn't there? 3123 02:47:03.760 --> 02:47:05.959 There is? And it's one of the nastiest fucking plants 3124 02:47:06.000 --> 02:47:07.959 to work at. Ever, I will never step foot on 3125 02:47:08.040 --> 02:47:10.280 that facility again as long as I live. It's gross 3126 02:47:10.799 --> 02:47:13.319 and it's nasty shit that like will kill you if 3127 02:47:13.319 --> 02:47:17.319 there's a leak, it's it's yeah, in your business, I'm sorry. 3128 02:47:17.360 --> 02:47:19.760 If your business recycles, there's a good chance that you're 3129 02:47:19.760 --> 02:47:24.520 familiar with the term recycling contamination. But what is recycling contamination? 3130 02:47:24.719 --> 02:47:27.959 And why does it matter? Hillary Clinton? Why does that matter? 3131 02:47:28.799 --> 02:47:32.159 How does it impact your sustainability efforts? And how can 3132 02:47:32.239 --> 02:47:36.280 we prevent recycling contamination? As it turns out, the problem 3133 02:47:36.319 --> 02:47:40.079 of recycling contamination can easily be reduced. Here is everything 3134 02:47:40.120 --> 02:47:44.000 you need to understand about recycling contamination, including common contaminants 3135 02:47:44.280 --> 02:47:46.959 and how you can move your planet towards a more 3136 02:47:47.079 --> 02:47:52.280 circular environment or economy. Okay, so what is recycling contamination? 3137 02:47:52.959 --> 02:47:56.440 Recycling contamination occurs when materials are sorted in the wrong 3138 02:47:56.520 --> 02:47:59.799 recycling bin placing a glass bottle into a mixed paper 3139 02:48:00.000 --> 02:48:05.319 cycling bin, for example, or when materials are not properly cleaned, 3140 02:48:05.840 --> 02:48:10.520 such as when food residue remains on a plastic yogurt container. Yes, 3141 02:48:10.639 --> 02:48:13.239 because you're supposed to thoroughly rinse out your yogurt cup 3142 02:48:13.559 --> 02:48:16.639 before you recycle it. Otherwise the entire truck gets thrown 3143 02:48:16.680 --> 02:48:20.360 into the lamp fill. But anyway, This is sometimes referred 3144 02:48:20.360 --> 02:48:24.760 to as aspirational recycling, as you're simply throwing something into 3145 02:48:24.840 --> 02:48:27.520 the recycling on the hope that it will find its 3146 02:48:27.559 --> 02:48:31.200 way to where it needs to eventually go. Unfortunately, this 3147 02:48:31.399 --> 02:48:34.159 is rarely the case. For instance, if you're collecting a 3148 02:48:34.239 --> 02:48:39.760 material for recycling, anything other than that specific material could 3149 02:48:39.840 --> 02:48:44.399 be considered a contaminant when disposed of improperly. Example would 3150 02:48:44.399 --> 02:48:48.079 be like in the wrong recycling container. Even recyclable materials 3151 02:48:48.120 --> 02:48:51.920 such as plastic and other paper products, can act as contaminants. 3152 02:48:52.559 --> 02:48:55.959 The changes of recycling after a I'm sorry, the challenges 3153 02:48:56.000 --> 02:48:59.399 of recycling after a natural disaster point to an extreme 3154 02:48:59.559 --> 02:49:03.559 form of contamination. For example, if someone throws plastic into 3155 02:49:03.600 --> 02:49:07.559 an occ or cardboard stream, this would be considered recycling 3156 02:49:07.600 --> 02:49:11.959 contamination because of its incorrect disposal. There's a strong possibility 3157 02:49:12.040 --> 02:49:15.000 it's rejected and sent to the landfill, resulting in a 3158 02:49:15.120 --> 02:49:21.360 wasted recycling effort. Altogether, yes, this is correct. The only 3159 02:49:21.520 --> 02:49:26.159 time it's okay to comingle or mixed recyclables together is 3160 02:49:26.200 --> 02:49:28.040 when you have an agreement to do so with your 3161 02:49:28.079 --> 02:49:32.399 recycling service provider. It's worth noting that recyclables can contain 3162 02:49:32.520 --> 02:49:35.959 residues such as food waste, oil, and grease, and unless 3163 02:49:35.959 --> 02:49:39.600 stated otherwise by your recycling company, are considered contaminants and 3164 02:49:39.639 --> 02:49:43.600 should not be added to your recycling stream. So if 3165 02:49:43.639 --> 02:49:46.319 you already have that agreement with your recycling company, you 3166 02:49:46.520 --> 02:49:48.559 are going to pay through the nose because now the 3167 02:49:48.639 --> 02:49:51.879 recycling group has to hire people to separate it at 3168 02:49:51.920 --> 02:49:54.959 the recycling plant, rather than you setting it apart and 3169 02:49:55.079 --> 02:49:57.360 doing it on your end. So it's just money over 3170 02:49:57.520 --> 02:50:00.280 money for shit that's probably going to the landfill any 3171 02:50:00.360 --> 02:50:05.280 damn way. Now, the type of recycling contamination contain a 3172 02:50:05.760 --> 02:50:09.639 contaminant like plastic bags, plastic bags and I'm made from 3173 02:50:09.639 --> 02:50:12.600 plastic materials such as shrink wrap, bubble wrap, plastic bags, 3174 02:50:12.680 --> 02:50:16.559 newspaper bags, trash bags, et cetera. Are the worst recycling 3175 02:50:16.600 --> 02:50:20.000 contaminator of all. And keep in mind we read earlier 3176 02:50:20.079 --> 02:50:23.680 that these things cannot be recycled. Just throwing this out. 3177 02:50:24.680 --> 02:50:27.559 Can they not be recycled? But they contaminate everything that 3178 02:50:27.680 --> 02:50:30.120 can be recycled exactly exactly. 3179 02:50:30.159 --> 02:50:31.520 It's telling you to keep them out of the bin 3180 02:50:31.639 --> 02:50:34.239 to save sorders at your local recycling facility a huge 3181 02:50:34.239 --> 02:50:37.760 amount of extra removal work while also saving their machines 3182 02:50:38.040 --> 02:50:41.120 the hassle of getting clogged. And also, since we're on 3183 02:50:41.200 --> 02:50:45.159 the plastic bag conversation, I'm just gonna go out on 3184 02:50:45.239 --> 02:50:49.600 a limb here and suggest that the vast majority of 3185 02:50:49.639 --> 02:50:52.799 people that have a trash can in their home has 3186 02:50:52.840 --> 02:50:56.440 a plastic bag inside of it, called a trash bag. 3187 02:50:56.680 --> 02:51:00.319 Wow, good point. I'm just trying to think critically, not 3188 02:51:00.520 --> 02:51:02.520 contaminate everything that you throw out. 3189 02:51:02.559 --> 02:51:05.000 Then, well, that's the thing that's a trash bag, right, 3190 02:51:05.120 --> 02:51:07.360 so that's going to the landfill any damn way. But 3191 02:51:08.440 --> 02:51:12.159 by doing that, you're still adding to the pollution conversation. 3192 02:51:13.000 --> 02:51:16.920 So it's already right off the rip, a completely defunct conversation. 3193 02:51:18.120 --> 02:51:19.280 Oh my god. 3194 02:51:19.920 --> 02:51:21.760 Yeah, it's all just a waste. 3195 02:51:21.799 --> 02:51:25.920 Then at that point exactly contaminant number two food waste. 3196 02:51:26.040 --> 02:51:27.799 And this is one of the ones that to your point, 3197 02:51:27.879 --> 02:51:30.479 I feel like they should have educated people about a 3198 02:51:30.600 --> 02:51:33.479 lot more. But I'll also say it depends on area 3199 02:51:33.559 --> 02:51:36.920 to area, right, Like certain areas of the country, recycling 3200 02:51:37.079 --> 02:51:39.399 is like a big thing they do, in fact, teach 3201 02:51:39.520 --> 02:51:42.360 kids in school how to do it properly. Other areas, 3202 02:51:42.520 --> 02:51:44.600 like where we grew up, it's just not a conversation, 3203 02:51:44.760 --> 02:51:48.360 but let's talk about it here. Food waste. Otherwise recyclable 3204 02:51:48.440 --> 02:51:51.159 items quickly become garbage when they carry the remnants of 3205 02:51:51.280 --> 02:51:53.760 the food that they once hailed. Some great examples of 3206 02:51:53.799 --> 02:51:57.040 food waste contamination can be found in paperboard take home 3207 02:51:57.159 --> 02:51:59.959 boxes full of food and recite uh and the recycl 3208 02:52:00.440 --> 02:52:03.639 jar or can that hasn't been emptied or rinsed out. 3209 02:52:04.239 --> 02:52:08.479 It may seem environmentally sound, but paperboard that's used or 3210 02:52:08.559 --> 02:52:10.600 I think they mean to say, cardboard that's used to 3211 02:52:10.680 --> 02:52:14.000 carry food usually heads to the landfill. The same can 3212 02:52:14.040 --> 02:52:16.840 be said for food waste left in recyclable jars and cans, 3213 02:52:17.200 --> 02:52:21.280 one notable exception being a well scraped peanut butter jar. 3214 02:52:22.079 --> 02:52:24.920 Who the fuck's doing that? Who is doing that? 3215 02:52:25.600 --> 02:52:27.360 I mean, listen, you got a dog and you want 3216 02:52:27.399 --> 02:52:29.520 to use it as like one of those cong toys, 3217 02:52:29.920 --> 02:52:30.559 you know what I mean. 3218 02:52:30.799 --> 02:52:34.920 But that's not a thing that anybody's doing. Nobody's rinsing 3219 02:52:34.959 --> 02:52:37.319 out their yogurt cups before they put in the recycling bin. 3220 02:52:37.360 --> 02:52:39.479 And if you are doing that, good cult member, listen, 3221 02:52:39.840 --> 02:52:42.840 good on you. You're actually taking the extra effort to 3222 02:52:43.000 --> 02:52:46.639 try to do recycling the way. But can you tell 3223 02:52:46.719 --> 02:52:49.959 me with one hundred percent certainty that everyone down your 3224 02:52:50.040 --> 02:52:52.920 street or in your neighborhood is doing the same thing, 3225 02:52:53.440 --> 02:52:57.040 Because if there's one contaminant on the truck, the entire 3226 02:52:57.079 --> 02:52:59.000 truck goes to the landfill, whether you did all the 3227 02:52:59.079 --> 02:53:05.520 right things or not. Yeah, now another one contaminant. Number 3228 02:53:05.520 --> 02:53:09.959 three loose shredded paper, which is biodegradable, I might add, 3229 02:53:10.040 --> 02:53:13.399 but yes, the most valuable trait of recyclable paper is 3230 02:53:13.520 --> 02:53:17.040 its long paper fiber This is because long fibers can 3231 02:53:17.079 --> 02:53:20.520 stand up to multiple recycling cycles. While shredded paper is 3232 02:53:20.719 --> 02:53:24.760 not a considered is not considered a contaminant as a whole. 3233 02:53:25.319 --> 02:53:29.600 Loose shredded paper can cause many recycling issues. When shreded 3234 02:53:29.600 --> 02:53:31.959 paper is mixed in with non shredded paper, it is 3235 02:53:32.040 --> 02:53:35.799 difficult to recover for recycling at a material's Recovery Facility 3236 02:53:35.879 --> 02:53:38.920 or MRF. The problem is that the small pieces are 3237 02:53:39.120 --> 02:53:41.680 The problem is with the small pieces. To fix this, 3238 02:53:42.200 --> 02:53:44.680 people who want to recycle their shredded paper can simply 3239 02:53:44.799 --> 02:53:47.920 keep it in a clear plastic bag that can then 3240 02:53:48.000 --> 02:53:51.319 be kept with their other recyclable items. So we're back 3241 02:53:51.360 --> 02:53:53.079 to the fucking plastic bag conversation. 3242 02:53:53.360 --> 02:53:54.840 Seems a bit counterintuitive. 3243 02:53:55.520 --> 02:53:59.479 So if my shredded paper is in a plastic bag, 3244 02:54:00.120 --> 02:54:03.440 why is that not considered contamination? Did I miss something here? 3245 02:54:05.280 --> 02:54:07.239 Yeah, it seems like we're running in circles now. 3246 02:54:08.239 --> 02:54:13.000 Contaminant number four brightly colored paper. Dan Barrel, a recycling 3247 02:54:13.079 --> 02:54:16.479 program manager at the University of Colorado at Boulder, explained 3248 02:54:16.520 --> 02:54:19.479 the problem with brightly colored paper well when he made 3249 02:54:19.559 --> 02:54:22.479 the analogy of the red sock in the white load 3250 02:54:23.040 --> 02:54:25.399 the paints that Paint's a pretty good picture of what 3251 02:54:25.479 --> 02:54:28.479 happens when brightly colored paper manages to spoil a batch 3252 02:54:28.520 --> 02:54:31.719 of good paper recycling. If the thought of not recycling 3253 02:54:31.760 --> 02:54:35.399 your colorful paper items crushes you, there may still be away. 3254 02:54:36.000 --> 02:54:38.879 If you tear the colored paper in question and you 3255 02:54:39.000 --> 02:54:42.879 see white in the center at it is most often 3256 02:54:43.000 --> 02:54:46.600 recyclable curbside. If the color dye goes all the way through, 3257 02:54:46.799 --> 02:54:50.079 then you're unfortunately out of luck. But most colored paper 3258 02:54:50.920 --> 02:54:53.920 is colored and dyed all the way through. That's a 3259 02:54:54.079 --> 02:54:54.639 silly thing. 3260 02:54:54.799 --> 02:54:59.120 But okay, yeah, I don't know if I've ever torn 3261 02:54:59.360 --> 02:55:02.159 a colored piece of paper unless it's like printed on, 3262 02:55:02.520 --> 02:55:04.760 like if it's like a printed situation. But yeah, if 3263 02:55:04.799 --> 02:55:08.000 it comes like like a fully yellow sheet or a 3264 02:55:08.079 --> 02:55:10.879 blue sheet, like, you're not gonna tear it in white 3265 02:55:10.959 --> 02:55:12.559 b in the middle, right. 3266 02:55:12.600 --> 02:55:15.719 And I mean, for the record, for papers, most newspapers 3267 02:55:15.760 --> 02:55:18.559 are printed on recycled paper. It's way cheaper to do 3268 02:55:18.639 --> 02:55:21.079 it that way, like paper like that, and that's why 3269 02:55:21.120 --> 02:55:23.719 it's done that way. But have you noticed that newspapers, 3270 02:55:23.719 --> 02:55:25.360 if you like really get up close to it, you 3271 02:55:25.440 --> 02:55:26.959 see little bits of like red and. 3272 02:55:27.000 --> 02:55:28.479 Blue color colors in it. 3273 02:55:29.399 --> 02:55:31.799 That's why it's recycled and they can buy it for 3274 02:55:31.879 --> 02:55:34.280 pennies on the dollar rather than paying for like expensive 3275 02:55:34.360 --> 02:55:35.559 like printer paper and things like that. 3276 02:55:35.719 --> 02:55:37.280 But does you think it looks cooler with all the 3277 02:55:37.319 --> 02:55:39.040 different colors on there? As a matter of fact, I 3278 02:55:39.120 --> 02:55:41.360 bought it was like a year ago. I bought these 3279 02:55:41.440 --> 02:55:45.440 shoes that were made out of recyclable plastic and paper 3280 02:55:45.520 --> 02:55:48.120 and shit like that. I just thought they looked cool 3281 02:55:48.159 --> 02:55:53.079 because the recycled like the rubber, it was the recycled 3282 02:55:53.120 --> 02:55:55.719 part and the rubber was like all these different colors. 3283 02:55:55.760 --> 02:55:58.159 I was like that shit looks cool to me. But yeah, 3284 02:55:58.239 --> 02:55:59.479 some people like to be uniform. 3285 02:56:00.159 --> 02:56:02.479 Agreed, agree, I think it looks cool too. It's like 3286 02:56:02.520 --> 02:56:06.159 that iconic look of newspaper print. But to that point, 3287 02:56:06.399 --> 02:56:09.639 it's talking about how colored papers may not be recyclable 3288 02:56:10.159 --> 02:56:12.520 because things and you're putting it all on in a 3289 02:56:12.559 --> 02:56:15.559 plastic bag and somehow it's not contaminating it with the plastic, 3290 02:56:15.639 --> 02:56:20.760 but okay, contaminate Number five some beverage cartons. Some municipal 3291 02:56:20.840 --> 02:56:23.959 programs accept beverage cartons as recyclable, while others may not. 3292 02:56:24.440 --> 02:56:27.200 When in doubt, you have two options. One, check with 3293 02:56:27.280 --> 02:56:30.600 your specific municipal recycling programs manager to find out if. 3294 02:56:30.520 --> 02:56:34.200 Cartons are in their yes or no list. And number two, 3295 02:56:34.559 --> 02:56:37.280 add the cartons to your single stream recyclable since they 3296 02:56:37.319 --> 02:56:40.280 are easy to separate out regardless of the route you choose. 3297 02:56:40.360 --> 02:56:44.520 Make sure to keep the tops and lids on the cartons. 3298 02:56:44.959 --> 02:56:48.120 Okay, because otherwise that lid might make it to a 3299 02:56:48.239 --> 02:56:49.920 different pile and contaminate it. 3300 02:56:50.079 --> 02:56:52.879 You know, wait a second, so you're supposed to keep 3301 02:56:52.920 --> 02:56:56.000 the lids on. You've always been told to take them off, 3302 02:56:56.079 --> 02:56:59.399 haven't you? Bro legit? I remember, in like fourth grade, 3303 02:56:59.639 --> 02:57:02.319 there were people that were working at the recycling center 3304 02:57:02.399 --> 02:57:04.479 and they said, look, if you can take all the 3305 02:57:04.559 --> 02:57:07.639 tops off. They because if you don't take the tops off, 3306 02:57:07.680 --> 02:57:09.760 then we got to be the ones to unscrew them 3307 02:57:09.879 --> 02:57:12.280 and separate it. Now it's saying that you're supposed to 3308 02:57:12.360 --> 02:57:15.680 keep it on. I legitmately, dude. Still to this day, 3309 02:57:16.120 --> 02:57:19.520 I don't throw bottles or milk jugs with the top 3310 02:57:19.600 --> 02:57:22.040 on it because of that conversation in fourth grade. 3311 02:57:22.760 --> 02:57:24.639 So the reason why they tell you to take it 3312 02:57:24.799 --> 02:57:27.959 off is because when you compress it, the air gets 3313 02:57:27.959 --> 02:57:30.680 out of the bottle. Right, It's not like you have 3314 02:57:30.760 --> 02:57:32.959 to push against pressurized bottles. And I don't mean like 3315 02:57:33.000 --> 02:57:35.559 pressure like hundreds of psi or whatever, but like a 3316 02:57:35.639 --> 02:57:38.600 two laer coke bottle that has the top screwed on tightly. 3317 02:57:39.040 --> 02:57:41.200 It takes more and it takes more space in the 3318 02:57:41.280 --> 02:57:43.360 truck and all those things. So you want to take 3319 02:57:43.360 --> 02:57:45.559 it off so it can crush easier. Make sense to me, 3320 02:57:46.120 --> 02:57:47.799 and to your point. We were always told to take 3321 02:57:47.840 --> 02:57:50.600 them off and separate them by color, right, keep all 3322 02:57:50.639 --> 02:57:52.479 the green lids over here, the red lids over here. 3323 02:57:52.520 --> 02:57:54.440 And that was a whole portion of it. Now they're 3324 02:57:54.479 --> 02:57:57.920 saying keep the lids on. It's important. You see what 3325 02:57:57.959 --> 02:58:01.600 I'm saying. It's all bullshit. It's all bullshit. 3326 02:58:01.920 --> 02:58:05.280 This is like the cholesterol conversation all over again. Yes, 3327 02:58:06.040 --> 02:58:07.719 I just don't know what the fuck to do with it. 3328 02:58:08.600 --> 02:58:13.799 Contaminant number six the wrong plastics. Some recycling programs might 3329 02:58:13.879 --> 02:58:17.280 not accept plastics numbers one through seven, which by the way, 3330 02:58:17.399 --> 02:58:20.799 is all of them, but the final rejection is decided 3331 02:58:20.840 --> 02:58:23.760 at the sorting facility. Rejection of plastics usually comes down 3332 02:58:23.799 --> 02:58:26.319 to the type of plastic being recycled and what it 3333 02:58:26.440 --> 02:58:29.760 wants contained. Food containers are usually okay. 3334 02:58:30.239 --> 02:58:34.120 Wait a minute, didn't they just say that food contaminants 3335 02:58:34.159 --> 02:58:37.920 are the number one thing, But okay, containers that once 3336 02:58:37.959 --> 02:58:40.719 held non food items should be checked to determine the 3337 02:58:40.799 --> 02:58:45.040 type of plastics considered. For instance, the most commonly recycled 3338 02:58:45.079 --> 02:58:50.639 plastics are number one PET and two HDPE. Plastics three 3339 02:58:50.799 --> 02:58:56.959 through seven are sometimes recyclable. That is an extremely misleading sentence, 3340 02:58:57.040 --> 02:59:00.760 good cult members. There is like the mental gymnastics that 3341 02:59:00.840 --> 02:59:03.760 you have to do to find a scenario where plastics 3342 02:59:03.799 --> 02:59:07.719 three through seven can be recycled. I'm not saying it's impossible. 3343 02:59:07.760 --> 02:59:09.719 I am saying there is a greater than zero percent 3344 02:59:09.840 --> 02:59:14.600 chance that it will actually get recycled. The line of 3345 02:59:15.200 --> 02:59:17.840 things that has to perfectly line up for that to 3346 02:59:17.959 --> 02:59:21.680 happen are so minuscule that it is essentially a snowball's 3347 02:59:21.760 --> 02:59:22.280 chance in hell. 3348 02:59:23.840 --> 02:59:24.040 Yeah. 3349 02:59:24.319 --> 02:59:28.120 Yeah, It's kind of like the old better chance at 3350 02:59:28.559 --> 02:59:31.200 a camel going through the eye of a needle situation. 3351 02:59:32.239 --> 02:59:37.239 Basically, here, contaminat number seven. Hazardous waste containers for paint, 3352 02:59:37.399 --> 02:59:41.479 automotive fluids, or pesticides must be disposed of separately, or 3353 02:59:41.719 --> 02:59:44.719 for some facilities, cleaned out before they can be recycled. 3354 02:59:45.200 --> 02:59:50.719 Cleaned out. How do you safely clean out automotive fluids 3355 02:59:50.760 --> 02:59:54.360 and pesticides from a plastic jug. You rinse them out 3356 02:59:55.079 --> 02:59:58.440 and pour them down your drain to go into our 3357 02:59:58.520 --> 03:00:02.120 water cycle some mountain the hose outside, and that shit 3358 03:00:02.239 --> 03:00:04.799 goes into your yard and into the soil. What the 3359 03:00:04.879 --> 03:00:07.719 fuck we're talking about here, Rubicon, I don't know. I'm 3360 03:00:07.760 --> 03:00:09.559 just asking the questions. I don't know the answers. 3361 03:00:09.719 --> 03:00:15.079 That's another plastic or petroleum company that is shifting blame 3362 03:00:15.319 --> 03:00:18.319 to the people that are their consumers. 3363 03:00:19.079 --> 03:00:22.079 Absolutely, it says they need to be cleaned out before 3364 03:00:22.120 --> 03:00:24.280 they can be recycled. Check with your local recycling and 3365 03:00:24.559 --> 03:00:28.120 or household hazardous waste program manager to determine the methods 3366 03:00:28.200 --> 03:00:31.920 necessary to make sure these items can be recycled. Of course, 3367 03:00:32.520 --> 03:00:36.879 contaminant number eight biohazard waste and diapers. If you're trying 3368 03:00:36.879 --> 03:00:42.360 to recycle something that has any human fluid on it, don't. Syringes, needles, diapers, 3369 03:00:42.399 --> 03:00:45.440 and other sanitary products are not recyclable and can potentially 3370 03:00:45.559 --> 03:00:49.000 be dangerous to handle. Okay, that's fair. I could at 3371 03:00:49.120 --> 03:00:53.040 least appreciate that. That's fair. Okay, human contaminants. Some's got 3372 03:00:53.120 --> 03:00:55.840 blood or piss or shit on it. Or puke. Yeah, 3373 03:00:55.840 --> 03:00:58.319 we don't need to recycle those, Just them away, all right. 3374 03:00:59.040 --> 03:01:04.200 Numbers nine frozen food containers. Again, they already brought up 3375 03:01:04.239 --> 03:01:06.200 food a couple of times, but apparently it's a different 3376 03:01:06.239 --> 03:01:09.360 thing whenever it's frozen. Right though, it is really tempting 3377 03:01:09.440 --> 03:01:12.479 to put that paper board box, cardboard box from the 3378 03:01:12.559 --> 03:01:16.000 freezer in the recycling bind don't do it. The shiny 3379 03:01:16.079 --> 03:01:19.360 exterior coating that those boxes have to prevent freezer burn 3380 03:01:19.559 --> 03:01:24.799 actually prevents the paper from being recyclable. WHOA, So again, 3381 03:01:25.399 --> 03:01:27.239 all the stuff that you're thinking that you get from 3382 03:01:27.280 --> 03:01:30.000 the store, all of the trash that we make, because 3383 03:01:30.600 --> 03:01:33.280 each person creates three hundred pounds of trash a year. 3384 03:01:33.360 --> 03:01:35.360 Even if you're trying to recycle this shit that you 3385 03:01:35.440 --> 03:01:37.920 bought your food from, you probably can't any damn way. 3386 03:01:38.159 --> 03:01:42.639 Yeah, no frozen pizza, no TV dinners, no like ready 3387 03:01:42.799 --> 03:01:44.920 made you know, just warm up kind of food. 3388 03:01:45.719 --> 03:01:45.959 Yeah. 3389 03:01:46.399 --> 03:01:49.639 Okay, Well that that pretty much cancels almost everything out 3390 03:01:49.680 --> 03:01:50.040 then at. 3391 03:01:50.000 --> 03:01:54.040 That point, right And then number ten unrinsed or metal 3392 03:01:54.200 --> 03:01:58.639 capped glass before you recycle, recycle that wine or beer bottle, 3393 03:01:58.680 --> 03:02:02.319 give it a quick rinse in the excess liquid cannot 3394 03:02:02.399 --> 03:02:06.079 contaminate other papers in the recycling and render them non recyclable. 3395 03:02:06.479 --> 03:02:09.000 Metal caps on glass containers simply need to be put 3396 03:02:09.079 --> 03:02:11.760 in the bin separately from the containers at the top. 3397 03:02:12.000 --> 03:02:15.200 Yeah, let me just go ahead and get shit faced 3398 03:02:15.319 --> 03:02:17.760 and then remind myself that I need to take the 3399 03:02:17.840 --> 03:02:20.559 beer bottles over to the sink, rinse them out, and 3400 03:02:20.680 --> 03:02:23.280 then place them into the recycling bin. Who the fuck's 3401 03:02:23.319 --> 03:02:24.799 gonna do that, right? 3402 03:02:25.159 --> 03:02:27.399 Exactly? And of course they're trying to get out the 3403 03:02:27.440 --> 03:02:31.840 information here it says recycling contamination statistics and prevention. It's 3404 03:02:31.879 --> 03:02:35.000 saying that luckily we're not all doomed to contaminate recyclables. 3405 03:02:35.440 --> 03:02:37.760 The three steps that will put you on the road 3406 03:02:37.799 --> 03:02:41.959 to preventing this is over communicate, keep them separated, and 3407 03:02:42.120 --> 03:02:44.879 keep it clean. Doing these three things will make the 3408 03:02:45.000 --> 03:02:48.120 recycling process more efficient, and you will increase the value 3409 03:02:48.159 --> 03:02:50.840 of what you send your local facility. With your new 3410 03:02:50.920 --> 03:02:54.959 found knowledge of contamination, you can help save the planet. Yeah, 3411 03:02:55.239 --> 03:02:57.600 because we know that that's what recycling centers are doing, 3412 03:02:57.840 --> 03:02:59.719 even though we just learned that that's not the case. 3413 03:03:00.120 --> 03:03:02.000 The next time you make that trip to the recycling bent, 3414 03:03:02.120 --> 03:03:07.440 ask yourself, have you helped prevent contaminants. Again, it's gotta 3415 03:03:07.479 --> 03:03:10.319 be on you, all about you. Never mind the fact 3416 03:03:10.319 --> 03:03:13.479 that Rubicon makes these chemicals in the first place. No, no, no, 3417 03:03:13.639 --> 03:03:16.040 it's on you consumer only you can fix it. 3418 03:03:16.920 --> 03:03:19.600 Oh my god, dude, this is hilarious. 3419 03:03:20.479 --> 03:03:23.799 It's it's pretty crazy. Now it all goes to a 3420 03:03:23.879 --> 03:03:26.760 landfill at the end of the day, especially now now 3421 03:03:26.840 --> 03:03:30.479 that China's not taking the trash anymore. They're trying to 3422 03:03:30.559 --> 03:03:32.760 find ways to make fuel out of it. Again, it's 3423 03:03:32.920 --> 03:03:36.959 not very efficient. It's being done not to scale it's 3424 03:03:37.000 --> 03:03:39.639 doing it's being done more as a show, like a 3425 03:03:39.719 --> 03:03:43.239 science fair project right now. It's not I don't see 3426 03:03:44.000 --> 03:03:47.879 the technology getting there anytime soon because there's way too 3427 03:03:48.000 --> 03:03:51.840 much money in turning crude oil into virgin plastics for 3428 03:03:51.959 --> 03:03:54.040 their single use so that they can be disposed of. 3429 03:03:54.200 --> 03:03:57.760 It's cheaper, So why would we stop that? Right now? 3430 03:03:58.360 --> 03:04:01.959 Let's talk about what green washing is. That's the thing 3431 03:04:02.000 --> 03:04:06.760 we've heard mention a few times here. Greenwashing definition, how 3432 03:04:06.840 --> 03:04:11.280 it works, examples and statistics. So what is greenwashing? 3433 03:04:13.159 --> 03:04:16.280 Greenwashing is the process of conveying a false impression or 3434 03:04:16.440 --> 03:04:20.079 misleading information about how a company's products are environmentally sound. 3435 03:04:20.239 --> 03:04:25.719 Greenwashing involves making an unsubstantiated claim to deceive consumers into 3436 03:04:25.760 --> 03:04:29.559 believing that a company's products are environmentally friendly or have 3437 03:04:29.760 --> 03:04:34.040 a greater positive environmental impact than they actually do. In addition, 3438 03:04:34.200 --> 03:04:37.159 green washing may occur when a company attempts to emphasize 3439 03:04:37.159 --> 03:04:40.600 sustainable aspects of a product to overshadow the company's involvement 3440 03:04:40.680 --> 03:04:45.520 in environmentally damaging practices performed through the use of environmental imagery, 3441 03:04:45.719 --> 03:04:50.239 misleading labels, and hiding trade offs. Greenwashing is a play 3442 03:04:50.360 --> 03:04:53.799 on the term whitewashing, which means using false information to 3443 03:04:53.920 --> 03:04:57.959 intentionally hide wrongdoing, error, or an unpleasant situation in an 3444 03:04:58.000 --> 03:05:00.120 attempt to make it seem less bad than and it 3445 03:05:00.239 --> 03:05:00.760 actually is. 3446 03:05:01.840 --> 03:05:04.600 Okay, now, we're not going to read the entire thing, 3447 03:05:04.840 --> 03:05:07.840 but I did definitely wanted to read these key takeaways here. 3448 03:05:08.319 --> 03:05:11.360 Green Washing is an attempt to capitalize on the growing 3449 03:05:11.440 --> 03:05:15.440 demand for environmentally sound products. Green Washing can convey a 3450 03:05:15.600 --> 03:05:18.799 false impression that a company or its products are you know, 3451 03:05:18.959 --> 03:05:22.639 environmentally conscious or friendly. Critics have accused some companies of 3452 03:05:22.680 --> 03:05:26.879 green washing to capitalize on the social responsible on the 3453 03:05:27.000 --> 03:05:32.920 socially responsible or environmental social or governance investigate investing movement 3454 03:05:33.520 --> 03:05:36.840 and genuinely green products or businesses back up their claims 3455 03:05:36.879 --> 03:05:41.399 with facts and details. That's essentially like the overarching key 3456 03:05:41.479 --> 03:05:44.319 takeaways here. But we can do this, how does green 3457 03:05:44.559 --> 03:05:45.200 washing work? 3458 03:05:46.000 --> 03:05:50.280 So, in essence, green washing is just another term for bullshitting. 3459 03:05:50.920 --> 03:05:55.200 Yes, yes, exactly, like whitewashing or telling a white lie, 3460 03:05:55.600 --> 03:05:57.840 whatever you want to say. Greenwashing is when a company 3461 03:05:57.920 --> 03:05:59.959 does that to scale when it comes to the environment. 3462 03:06:00.479 --> 03:06:03.040 All right, Like, how many of these companies that we heard, Oh, well, 3463 03:06:03.079 --> 03:06:05.600 you can't touch us. We just paid all of these 3464 03:06:05.719 --> 03:06:09.840 carbon credits. We're doing our part. So you've done nothing. 3465 03:06:10.360 --> 03:06:13.360 You paid the government extortion fee, and you've done nothing 3466 03:06:13.959 --> 03:06:17.079 to actually help the environment. That's the whole point of 3467 03:06:17.159 --> 03:06:18.719 you getting these fines in the first place. 3468 03:06:19.680 --> 03:06:23.479 Meanwhile, in order to be able to pay for all 3469 03:06:23.559 --> 03:06:27.239 of those carbon tax credits and stuff, all they're doing 3470 03:06:27.360 --> 03:06:29.159 that's not gonna be coming out of their pocket. They're 3471 03:06:29.200 --> 03:06:32.639 gonna raise the price on their products to make the 3472 03:06:32.799 --> 03:06:38.399 consumers essentially pay that carbon tax for them. Absolutely, that's 3473 03:06:38.399 --> 03:06:40.479 why it's all. It's all a fucking scam, it's all 3474 03:06:40.600 --> 03:06:43.520 a joke. It is all just like, look, we're doing 3475 03:06:43.600 --> 03:06:46.760 the right thing, and if something doesn't work, or you know, 3476 03:06:46.920 --> 03:06:49.680 if we cause global warming, which I don't believe that either, 3477 03:06:50.040 --> 03:06:52.360 but let's just say that if there is a global 3478 03:06:52.399 --> 03:06:54.920 warming or a climate change situation, they're gonna put it 3479 03:06:54.959 --> 03:06:58.399 on the people as they already have, and they're never 3480 03:06:58.440 --> 03:07:02.079 gonna take any accountability because it's always everybody else's fault. 3481 03:07:02.399 --> 03:07:06.440 This is what is that called not a nihilist a 3482 03:07:07.159 --> 03:07:13.479 person who always blamed somebody else victim mentality essentially. Yeah, yeah, 3483 03:07:13.639 --> 03:07:13.959 just like. 3484 03:07:14.280 --> 03:07:17.520 Oh uh oh shit, you're talking about a N word. 3485 03:07:18.600 --> 03:07:21.239 Narcissists. Yeah, I couldn't think of the word. This is 3486 03:07:21.319 --> 03:07:23.920 industrial scale narcissism exactly. 3487 03:07:24.280 --> 03:07:24.479 Yeah. 3488 03:07:24.959 --> 03:07:29.479 So how greenwashing works? Also known as green sheen, green 3489 03:07:29.639 --> 03:07:32.000 washing is an attempt to capitalize on the growing demand 3490 03:07:32.040 --> 03:07:36.239 for environmentally sound products, whether that means they are more natural, healthier, 3491 03:07:37.159 --> 03:07:41.319 free of chemicals, recyclable, or less wasteful of natural resources. 3492 03:07:41.600 --> 03:07:44.239 The term originated in the nineteen sixties, when the hotel 3493 03:07:44.319 --> 03:07:47.319 industry devised one of the most blatant examples of green washing. 3494 03:07:47.600 --> 03:07:51.040 They placed notices in hotel rooms asking guests to reuse 3495 03:07:51.120 --> 03:07:54.639 their towels to save the environment. The hotels enjoyed the 3496 03:07:54.680 --> 03:07:58.040 benefit of lower laundry costs, of course. More recently, some 3497 03:07:58.120 --> 03:08:01.959 of the world's biggest carbon emitters, such as conventional energy companies, 3498 03:08:02.200 --> 03:08:05.280 have attempted to rebrand themselves as champions of the environment. 3499 03:08:05.559 --> 03:08:08.600 Products are green washed through a process of renaming, rebranding, 3500 03:08:08.760 --> 03:08:12.280 or repackaging them. Greenwashed products might convey the idea that 3501 03:08:12.319 --> 03:08:15.920 they're more natural, wholesome, or free of chemicals than competing brands. 3502 03:08:17.120 --> 03:08:22.120 Companies have engaged in greenwashing green washing via press releases 3503 03:08:22.200 --> 03:08:25.440 and commercials touting their clean energy or pollution reduction efforts. 3504 03:08:25.920 --> 03:08:29.000 In reality, the company may not be making a meaningful 3505 03:08:29.040 --> 03:08:33.840 commitment to green initiatives. In short, companies that make unsubstantiated 3506 03:08:33.879 --> 03:08:37.239 claims that their products are environmentally safe or provide some 3507 03:08:37.479 --> 03:08:40.040 green benefit are involved in green washing. 3508 03:08:41.040 --> 03:08:44.120 Absolutely. This art goes from Investipedia, by the way, and 3509 03:08:44.159 --> 03:08:46.239 I'm not going to read the whole thing, but I 3510 03:08:46.319 --> 03:08:50.200 definitely wanted to read that section of it real quick. 3511 03:08:50.280 --> 03:08:52.840 Hold on, there was one more thing that I wanted 3512 03:08:52.920 --> 03:08:53.559 us to touch on. 3513 03:08:54.479 --> 03:08:56.879 Whereas right here, this is where the green washing came in. 3514 03:08:58.000 --> 03:09:01.360 Well, okay, let's see. Let's see green washing groups. Here 3515 03:09:01.399 --> 03:09:03.479 we go. Let's talk about some groups that were big 3516 03:09:03.520 --> 03:09:04.799 into the green washing thing. 3517 03:09:05.280 --> 03:09:09.200 The perception the plastic is easily recyclable and that the 3518 03:09:09.280 --> 03:09:13.120 burden of recycling lies solely with the consumer has been 3519 03:09:13.200 --> 03:09:16.799 shaped by decades of carefully constructed campaigns paid for by 3520 03:09:17.239 --> 03:09:19.959 many of the most prevalent producers of plastic. If you 3521 03:09:20.040 --> 03:09:22.559 are alive in the seventies, chances are you're familiar with 3522 03:09:22.680 --> 03:09:27.520 the Crying Indian ad from the environmental nonprofit organization Keep 3523 03:09:27.559 --> 03:09:30.760 America Beautiful. The ad featured a Native American man crying 3524 03:09:30.799 --> 03:09:34.319 over the destruction of his homeland from visitors reckless littering. 3525 03:09:34.680 --> 03:09:37.280 It was a compelling and effective visual. However, if you 3526 03:09:37.399 --> 03:09:39.799 take a look at the organization's board members, you'll find 3527 03:09:39.840 --> 03:09:44.360 representatives from Dow Chemical Company, PepsiCo, Coca Cola, and Nesley 3528 03:09:44.760 --> 03:09:48.120 companies that all rely on the production of single use plastic. 3529 03:09:48.440 --> 03:09:51.600 If anything, this fact alone should challenge the intention behind 3530 03:09:51.639 --> 03:09:55.600 the organization's altruistic campaign. By shifting all blame of the 3531 03:09:55.639 --> 03:09:59.040 plastic crisis to the consumer, manufacturers are free to keep 3532 03:09:59.079 --> 03:10:04.200 producing plastic. Pri Then there's an organization called the Recycling Partnership, 3533 03:10:04.959 --> 03:10:08.159 which sounds promising. The Recycling Partnership has a nice name, 3534 03:10:08.239 --> 03:10:10.879 but the company is actually funded by Dow, Exon Coke, 3535 03:10:11.000 --> 03:10:15.680 and Amazon. One of this organization's board member or board 3536 03:10:15.760 --> 03:10:19.200 representatives also is a member of the American Chemistry Council, 3537 03:10:19.479 --> 03:10:25.200 an industry group that represents plastic manufacturers. Note also that 3538 03:10:25.719 --> 03:10:28.520 following publication, the Recycling Partnership reached out to me with 3539 03:10:28.559 --> 03:10:31.479 a statement from their CEO about their work as it relates. 3540 03:10:31.200 --> 03:10:32.319 To this article. Interesting. 3541 03:10:33.120 --> 03:10:36.360 A concerning detail about the Recycling Partnership is that it 3542 03:10:36.399 --> 03:10:40.520 supports the EPR policies in New York. In New York 3543 03:10:40.760 --> 03:10:45.840 Government Governor Kathy Hokel's budget, as detailed in my earlier 3544 03:10:45.920 --> 03:10:50.840 conversation with anc or INNC, Hocal's proposal allows for chemical 3545 03:10:50.879 --> 03:10:54.879 recycling and fails to make any packaging reduction requirements, as 3546 03:10:54.920 --> 03:10:59.559 opposed to an alternate bill from Assemblyman Steve Engelbright, which 3547 03:10:59.639 --> 03:11:02.879 reject x chemical recycling and will require a fifty percent 3548 03:11:03.120 --> 03:11:06.159 reduction in plastic units over ten years. But the main 3549 03:11:06.280 --> 03:11:10.399 concern surrounding Hochel's EPR proposal is who will make the 3550 03:11:10.479 --> 03:11:13.360 decisions about what types of materials will be recycled and 3551 03:11:13.600 --> 03:11:17.120 at what rate. A lot of companies want that want 3552 03:11:17.159 --> 03:11:21.399 the legislature to authorize the establishment of a producer Responsibility 3553 03:11:21.520 --> 03:11:27.200 organization or PRO where they have complete control over everything. Unfortunately, 3554 03:11:28.159 --> 03:11:32.280 many pros lack oversight and will ultimately develop the most inexpensive, 3555 03:11:32.399 --> 03:11:37.280 ineffective EPR possible. Of course, and once again, these types 3556 03:11:37.319 --> 03:11:40.760 of environmental actions are simply a band aid over a 3557 03:11:40.840 --> 03:11:44.440 much larger wound. And as they point out, combating the 3558 03:11:44.479 --> 03:11:47.959 plastic problem requires a mindset shift from believing recycling will 3559 03:11:47.959 --> 03:11:51.520 solve the problem to finding legitimate ways to reduce the 3560 03:11:51.600 --> 03:11:54.680 production of plastic, and that means companies need to be 3561 03:11:54.719 --> 03:11:57.799 held accountable for the environmental impacts of their products. 3562 03:11:58.840 --> 03:12:04.159 Absolutely right, yep. So this is all kind of how 3563 03:12:04.239 --> 03:12:07.319 this goes down. It's all lobbying, it's all. It's all 3564 03:12:07.440 --> 03:12:11.760 bullshit to virtue signal you into feeling like you're the problem. 3565 03:12:12.319 --> 03:12:16.760 But you can help by recycling, even though again through 3566 03:12:16.840 --> 03:12:19.600 contamination or the fact that even though there's a recycling 3567 03:12:19.680 --> 03:12:22.680 logo on the plastic, the vast majority of them are 3568 03:12:22.760 --> 03:12:26.040 not recyclable, Like, there's no way that this is actually 3569 03:12:26.079 --> 03:12:27.639 even if you do it all the right way and 3570 03:12:27.760 --> 03:12:30.600 you rinse them out and do whatever, most of them 3571 03:12:30.600 --> 03:12:33.920 are going to a landfill any fucking way. That's just 3572 03:12:33.959 --> 03:12:37.159 the way this goes down. So there are ways or 3573 03:12:37.200 --> 03:12:41.280 there is a type of recycling that actually does work. Okay, 3574 03:12:41.440 --> 03:12:43.600 and it's not plastics. Metal recycling. We're not going to 3575 03:12:43.680 --> 03:12:47.040 read this whole article, but essentially, metal recycling is the 3576 03:12:47.120 --> 03:12:50.440 process of recovering scrap or waste metal and repurposing it 3577 03:12:50.520 --> 03:12:52.840 for new products. Metal recycling can be done with a 3578 03:12:52.920 --> 03:12:56.639 variety of metals, including aluminum, copper, iron, steel, and brass. 3579 03:12:57.000 --> 03:13:00.920 The recycling process helps to preserve our now resources and 3580 03:13:01.040 --> 03:13:03.799 save energy that would otherwise be needed to produce new 3581 03:13:03.879 --> 03:13:06.840 metal products from scratch. So think about when World War 3582 03:13:06.920 --> 03:13:12.399 two broke out, everybody was rationing their shit. There was 3583 03:13:12.399 --> 03:13:14.520 a copper ration, there was a steel ration. Make sure 3584 03:13:14.520 --> 03:13:16.879 you turn into your illuminum cans for the war effort, 3585 03:13:16.959 --> 03:13:20.760 all these things, because these things are recyclable at scale, 3586 03:13:21.399 --> 03:13:26.479 Like the infrastructure's already there, the can production place Campbell's 3587 03:13:26.559 --> 03:13:31.879 chicken soup. Campbell's right, they already have the manufacturing facility 3588 03:13:32.200 --> 03:13:34.239 for the cans. I didn't even do anything on my 3589 03:13:34.280 --> 03:13:35.559 fingers to make those balloons happen out for. 3590 03:13:35.680 --> 03:13:38.159 Yeah, and what was it over like in England where 3591 03:13:38.200 --> 03:13:40.680 they were taken down all the church bells for bullet 3592 03:13:40.760 --> 03:13:41.840 casings and stuff like that. 3593 03:13:43.079 --> 03:13:46.399 My point is they already have the manufacturing facility to 3594 03:13:46.600 --> 03:13:49.879 do this. It's not some new technology. It's literally what 3595 03:13:50.079 --> 03:13:53.040 they already used to make the can. They can either 3596 03:13:53.120 --> 03:13:55.680 a wash the can out and reuse it, or b 3597 03:13:56.280 --> 03:13:59.559 remelt the can and then reform it into a new can. 3598 03:14:00.680 --> 03:14:02.760 It's not a one hundred percent, but you will get 3599 03:14:02.840 --> 03:14:04.799 out damn near one hundred percent of the material you 3600 03:14:04.879 --> 03:14:07.440 put into that machine when a new can is produced. 3601 03:14:07.840 --> 03:14:11.799 Metal recycling is worthwhile and should be done preserve the resources. 3602 03:14:11.799 --> 03:14:15.319 I'm with that. Another version of this is glass is 3603 03:14:15.559 --> 03:14:18.680 all glass recyclable? Unpacking the myths and facts. These are 3604 03:14:18.680 --> 03:14:22.280 from two separate articles. The overview who overview of it is. 3605 03:14:22.760 --> 03:14:25.719 While glass is widely regarded as a recyclable material, not 3606 03:14:25.920 --> 03:14:29.159 all glass products are created equal. Various types of glass 3607 03:14:29.200 --> 03:14:32.879 from beverage containers, who decorative items have different recycling potentials 3608 03:14:32.920 --> 03:14:37.120 based on their composition and local recycling capabilities. Understanding these 3609 03:14:37.159 --> 03:14:39.920 distinctions is crucial for consumers who wish to make informed 3610 03:14:39.959 --> 03:14:44.920 decisions about their waste disposal and contribute positively to recycling efforts. Moreover, 3611 03:14:45.120 --> 03:14:48.120 the recycling process itself plays a significant role in determining 3612 03:14:48.120 --> 03:14:52.879 whether glass can be effectively reused. Factors such as contamination, color, 3613 03:14:53.000 --> 03:14:55.840 and the presence of additives can hinder the recycling journey, 3614 03:14:56.200 --> 03:14:59.000 making it essential to know what can and cannot be recycled. 3615 03:14:59.200 --> 03:15:02.639 As we navigate the intricacies of glass recyclability, we uncover 3616 03:15:02.760 --> 03:15:06.000 the importance of proper disposal practices and the impact they 3617 03:15:06.079 --> 03:15:10.000 have on have on I guess recycling was the thing 3618 03:15:10.079 --> 03:15:13.520 of that. Now types of glass and their recyclability okay, 3619 03:15:13.959 --> 03:15:19.840 container glass, flat glass, fiberglass, and ceramic and pyrex Now 3620 03:15:20.520 --> 03:15:23.680 container glass. This includes bottles and jars that are commonly 3621 03:15:23.760 --> 03:15:29.319 recycled most curb cyber recycling programs except these flat glass windows, mirrors, 3622 03:15:29.360 --> 03:15:32.920 and glass doors. They fall into this category, and although recyclable, 3623 03:15:33.000 --> 03:15:37.200 flat glass often requires special processing which not available in 3624 03:15:37.360 --> 03:15:40.959 all recycling facilities, So sometimes you can recycle it, sometimes 3625 03:15:41.000 --> 03:15:45.559 you can. Fiberglass use an insulation and boat construction. Fiberglass 3626 03:15:45.680 --> 03:15:48.920 is challenging to recycle due to its composite nature and 3627 03:15:49.079 --> 03:15:52.879 is typically sent to landfills. And then they're ceramic and pyrecs. 3628 03:15:53.239 --> 03:15:56.399 These materials are not recyclable with standard glass and can 3629 03:15:56.520 --> 03:16:01.200 contaminate recycling streams if mixed with recyclable glass, and they 3630 03:16:01.280 --> 03:16:04.680 have a process where basically it's a five step solution 3631 03:16:05.000 --> 03:16:11.280 with recycling glass collection, sorting, cleaning, crushing, and melting. That's 3632 03:16:11.319 --> 03:16:14.159 why some glass isn't recyclable, like they said color like, 3633 03:16:14.200 --> 03:16:16.159 you can't take a bunch of green glass and crush 3634 03:16:16.280 --> 03:16:17.840 up and melt it with a bunch of clear glass 3635 03:16:17.879 --> 03:16:20.879 and get the same thing. But typically if you separate 3636 03:16:20.920 --> 03:16:23.719 it out and do things the right way, most glass 3637 03:16:23.760 --> 03:16:25.600 that we deal with on a day to day basis 3638 03:16:26.120 --> 03:16:29.239 is recyclable. So here's a list of the ones that 3639 03:16:29.319 --> 03:16:32.879 are and are not recyclable. Clear, green and brown glass 3640 03:16:32.920 --> 03:16:36.760 bottles i e. Beer Bottles are commonly accepted at recycling centers. 3641 03:16:37.040 --> 03:16:39.479 Food and beverage containers such as jars and bottles that 3642 03:16:39.520 --> 03:16:42.559 hailed food and drinks are usually recyclable. And again, window 3643 03:16:42.639 --> 03:16:47.200 glass is generally recyclable, but may require specific specific processing. 3644 03:16:47.840 --> 03:16:51.719 Non recyclable glass ceramics and porcelain. These materials cannot be 3645 03:16:51.799 --> 03:16:55.639 recycled due to the different melting points. Crystal glass often 3646 03:16:55.719 --> 03:17:01.559 contains lead, complicating the recycling. Light bulbs require special disposal 3647 03:17:01.639 --> 03:17:04.799 methods and are not typically accepted in curb cyber recycling 3648 03:17:05.360 --> 03:17:09.079 timber glass. It's used in safety applications and cannot be 3649 03:17:09.200 --> 03:17:12.920 recycled with regular glass. So as far as this goes 3650 03:17:12.959 --> 03:17:14.879 with the education of all the good cult members, I 3651 03:17:14.920 --> 03:17:17.200 felt like it was our job to do our due 3652 03:17:17.239 --> 03:17:21.639 diligence on that plastics y'all, only type one and two 3653 03:17:22.280 --> 03:17:25.479 might be recyclable. And then again, are you rinsing out 3654 03:17:25.559 --> 03:17:27.760 every single coat bottle after you're done with it, before 3655 03:17:27.760 --> 03:17:30.879 you put it in the recycling bin? God, I'm sure 3656 03:17:30.920 --> 03:17:33.360 if even if you are, is every person down your 3657 03:17:33.399 --> 03:17:35.760 street doing that? Highly unlikely. 3658 03:17:35.879 --> 03:17:39.920 Here's what I suggest, And this could take care of 3659 03:17:40.000 --> 03:17:43.600 the paper industry. It could take care of even the 3660 03:17:44.360 --> 03:17:49.159 plastic industry. What if instead of using paper and instead 3661 03:17:49.399 --> 03:17:54.600 of using plastic, make everything hemp. It's already biodegradable. 3662 03:17:55.479 --> 03:17:57.639 They could and it's super cheap. 3663 03:17:57.680 --> 03:18:00.319 I mean, honestly, pete, dude, fucking you eat It is 3664 03:18:00.440 --> 03:18:03.159 so easy to grow, Like it's one of the easiest 3665 03:18:03.200 --> 03:18:05.479 things that you can grow. You you get a massive 3666 03:18:05.559 --> 03:18:08.479 fucking field of it. I mean forget having you know, 3667 03:18:08.920 --> 03:18:12.879 a massive like cornfield or something like that. If you 3668 03:18:13.040 --> 03:18:14.879 can just grow the hemp, and I'm not even I mean, 3669 03:18:15.200 --> 03:18:16.920 fuck it. If you want to sell the bud and 3670 03:18:17.040 --> 03:18:19.319 make a little extra off the top. That way, just 3671 03:18:19.559 --> 03:18:23.559 use the actual hemp itself, dude. It's very sturdy, it's 3672 03:18:24.239 --> 03:18:26.040 it's not going to rip. It's like one of the 3673 03:18:26.079 --> 03:18:28.840 strongest fibrous materials that that money can buy. 3674 03:18:29.399 --> 03:18:33.799 It's fireproof, it's insect proof, it is extremely sustainable. One 3675 03:18:33.959 --> 03:18:37.280 acre of it, that per yield goes like you're gonna 3676 03:18:37.319 --> 03:18:39.360 get so much hemp crete out of it. But there 3677 03:18:39.360 --> 03:18:42.159 are certain applications where that doesn't doesn't make sense, right. 3678 03:18:42.239 --> 03:18:44.680 There are certain things where like, Okay, you can't use 3679 03:18:44.760 --> 03:18:48.799 hemp to replace glass, Okay, fine, she got me there, 3680 03:18:49.079 --> 03:18:51.159 but you can use it to replace a lot of plastics, 3681 03:18:51.600 --> 03:18:53.000 like a lot of plastics. 3682 03:18:53.079 --> 03:18:55.639 I mean, I would, I mean even just for I 3683 03:18:55.680 --> 03:18:59.120 don't even think that we need like like glass bottles, 3684 03:18:59.319 --> 03:19:02.000 for example, Like you can turn in bud light and 3685 03:19:02.079 --> 03:19:03.680 cores light and all of them were doing it. Like 3686 03:19:03.719 --> 03:19:05.159 with the aluminum cans. 3687 03:19:05.120 --> 03:19:06.520 Just fucking make them all illuminum cans. 3688 03:19:06.520 --> 03:19:08.120 At that point, that's always recyclable. 3689 03:19:09.079 --> 03:19:11.799 And I get this, and I'm not disagreeing. I'm saying 3690 03:19:11.879 --> 03:19:14.360 that coke from a glass bottle tastes better than coke 3691 03:19:14.399 --> 03:19:17.920 from a plastic bottle. Well, that's just me. 3692 03:19:18.120 --> 03:19:20.840 I mean, sure, there's gonna have to be some things 3693 03:19:20.920 --> 03:19:22.200 that you kind of dial back. 3694 03:19:22.040 --> 03:19:25.399 On, but that's fair. But I mean, honestly, how often 3695 03:19:25.399 --> 03:19:28.200 are people drinking coke from a glass bottle? That's like 3696 03:19:28.360 --> 03:19:31.159 a rarity in our day and age. Yeah, I mean 3697 03:19:31.239 --> 03:19:35.159 it's not very common now. As far as turning plastic 3698 03:19:35.239 --> 03:19:37.200 into a fuel source. I got a quick clip that 3699 03:19:37.280 --> 03:19:39.600 I found that it does a pretty good job. This 3700 03:19:39.799 --> 03:19:44.040 guy he's doing it basically in his backyard, shouts out 3701 03:19:44.159 --> 03:19:45.479 to nature. 3702 03:19:45.600 --> 03:19:46.959 Jab, Oh, i've seen this guy. 3703 03:19:47.079 --> 03:19:47.280 Yeah. 3704 03:19:47.360 --> 03:19:49.319 Yeah, there's a lot of people on TikTok talking about him. 3705 03:19:49.840 --> 03:19:52.040 Now you're gonna understand what I mean by this. So 3706 03:19:52.200 --> 03:19:56.159 he basically turned plastics into his own homemade gas station. 3707 03:19:56.319 --> 03:19:58.440 But the amount of heat that's used to make this 3708 03:19:58.680 --> 03:20:01.879 versus the amount that he's getting out, it's more of 3709 03:20:01.959 --> 03:20:04.879 a project and it's really cool. It is really cool, 3710 03:20:05.479 --> 03:20:08.239 but it's expensive to do at scale. But let's watch 3711 03:20:08.319 --> 03:20:10.319 this again. Good cult members, if you're not seeing this 3712 03:20:10.399 --> 03:20:12.239 and you're just hearing it, come check us out on 3713 03:20:12.280 --> 03:20:14.559 Patreon is the only place to see what we're talking about. 3714 03:20:14.639 --> 03:20:16.840 That's the only place we have video, So anyway, let's 3715 03:20:16.840 --> 03:20:17.079 watch it. 3716 03:20:18.559 --> 03:20:22.280 So I've created my own gas station that makes fuel 3717 03:20:22.680 --> 03:20:25.159 from plastic waste. Let's go. 3718 03:20:34.040 --> 03:20:37.000 For those who are just listening, he's tough, stuffing all 3719 03:20:37.040 --> 03:20:41.319 this trash into like this long aluminum tube of sorts, 3720 03:20:41.840 --> 03:20:43.600 and he looks like he's about to turn up the 3721 03:20:43.879 --> 03:20:56.120 gas in order to burn all of it, and then 3722 03:20:56.200 --> 03:20:59.840 showing how much fuel it it's creating. He's pouring it 3723 03:20:59.879 --> 03:21:02.719 into a cylinder. Looks a little bit murky. 3724 03:21:06.120 --> 03:21:08.479 So basically, yeah, for those that are just watching or 3725 03:21:08.600 --> 03:21:11.120 just listening, here, he just shoved a bunch of different 3726 03:21:11.159 --> 03:21:15.879 plastic bags and bottles and tied detergent containers and all 3727 03:21:15.959 --> 03:21:19.200 this stuff into this processing unit and he heats it 3728 03:21:19.319 --> 03:21:21.799 up and he pressurizes it, and he's right now, this 3729 03:21:22.000 --> 03:21:26.719 sludge is essentially quick made crude oil, right all right, 3730 03:21:26.799 --> 03:21:30.159 And so it looks like it looks like mud essentially. 3731 03:21:30.760 --> 03:21:32.200 But then you take this and you can put it 3732 03:21:32.239 --> 03:21:34.520 into a distillation unit and you can pull off the 3733 03:21:34.600 --> 03:21:38.959 components of octane and ethane and propane and all these 3734 03:21:39.000 --> 03:21:40.959 things from it and get diesel from it as well. 3735 03:21:41.440 --> 03:21:42.959 So all right, real quick, let's keep watching. 3736 03:21:44.600 --> 03:21:49.000 So this is plastic crude oil, and as you can see, 3737 03:21:49.239 --> 03:21:52.639 we have quite a bit of this plastic crude oil. Well, 3738 03:21:52.680 --> 03:21:54.840 it can be fueled, but we need to refine it 3739 03:21:54.959 --> 03:21:55.639 and clean. 3740 03:21:55.479 --> 03:21:58.040 It up so real quick. You saw the size of 3741 03:21:58.159 --> 03:22:01.200 the unit that he shoved all that into, right, uh yeah, 3742 03:22:02.120 --> 03:22:05.799 to get out three cups of plastic crude oil. And 3743 03:22:05.920 --> 03:22:08.360 then you're not gonna get three cups of diesel off 3744 03:22:08.440 --> 03:22:11.159 of that. You're not gonna get three cups of gasoline 3745 03:22:11.200 --> 03:22:15.040 off of that. It's like literally a little bit here, 3746 03:22:15.040 --> 03:22:16.479 a little bit here, a little bit here, a little 3747 03:22:16.479 --> 03:22:18.040 bit here. And then at the end of it, what 3748 03:22:18.120 --> 03:22:21.040 do you do with the plastic asphalt, the plastic sludge 3749 03:22:21.079 --> 03:22:22.600 at the bottom of it, Because at that point you 3750 03:22:22.600 --> 03:22:24.319 would consider that toxic waste, wouldn't you. 3751 03:22:24.959 --> 03:22:26.959 Ah yeah, I would think that. I mean, you're probably 3752 03:22:27.040 --> 03:22:29.399 only getting about two miles down the road with that amount. 3753 03:22:30.360 --> 03:22:33.760 Oh not even, not even. But the thing is, yes, 3754 03:22:33.840 --> 03:22:37.680 it can be done, and we have the technology, but 3755 03:22:37.840 --> 03:22:41.600 it's not scalable and cost effective at this time. And 3756 03:22:41.680 --> 03:22:45.239 I am hoping that with more technological advances, perhaps we 3757 03:22:45.280 --> 03:22:47.760 could find a way to make that cost effective and 3758 03:22:47.879 --> 03:22:53.239 we could start filling our cars with literally recycled plastics 3759 03:22:53.559 --> 03:22:54.920 like they did in Back to the Future. 3760 03:22:55.680 --> 03:22:59.959 Yeah, yeah, this is you know, it's all a hope 3761 03:23:00.079 --> 03:23:01.559 in a dream. But I don't think it's ever going 3762 03:23:01.639 --> 03:23:05.879 to happen. If you think about it. The corporation stand 3763 03:23:05.920 --> 03:23:08.639 to lose too much, and if they stand to lose 3764 03:23:08.680 --> 03:23:11.440 too much, well they're just going to go to other countries, 3765 03:23:11.879 --> 03:23:14.639 right like, that's what they would do, and then America 3766 03:23:14.719 --> 03:23:19.360 would just be buying plastics and gasoline and everything that's 3767 03:23:19.399 --> 03:23:22.520 made from petroleum from other countries. And so that's why 3768 03:23:22.559 --> 03:23:23.719 it's never going to happen. 3769 03:23:24.600 --> 03:23:27.520 So let me now now that we have given the 3770 03:23:27.600 --> 03:23:30.879 whole gambit here, and we know the recycling as the 3771 03:23:31.200 --> 03:23:34.280 overarching theme that has been sold to us for decades 3772 03:23:34.399 --> 03:23:40.399 now is complete bullshit, complete bullshit. Aside from glass and metals, 3773 03:23:40.959 --> 03:23:43.760 and in some cases that's not even effective because of contamination. 3774 03:23:43.879 --> 03:23:47.360 It all goes to landfill plastics themselves, even if it 3775 03:23:47.399 --> 03:23:50.520 has the recycling logo, the majority of the time those 3776 03:23:50.520 --> 03:23:52.879 are going to a landfill as well, and up until 3777 03:23:52.920 --> 03:23:56.879 twenty eighteen, they were going to China and then essentially 3778 03:23:56.959 --> 03:23:59.079 just getting burned or put into the ocean anyway. So 3779 03:23:59.520 --> 03:24:01.920 whether we did it or China did it, we feel 3780 03:24:02.040 --> 03:24:05.799 virtuous even though it's it had the same effect regardless, right. 3781 03:24:06.079 --> 03:24:07.920 Yeah, So now all of that to be said. 3782 03:24:08.719 --> 03:24:12.200 Here is my own conspiracy on this bro aside from 3783 03:24:12.239 --> 03:24:15.399 recycling in and of itself, and I talked about this 3784 03:24:15.440 --> 03:24:17.920 a little bit on the Live. But the facts are 3785 03:24:17.959 --> 03:24:24.000 the facts here. Crude oil is a known carcinogen. It 3786 03:24:24.159 --> 03:24:27.959 gives you cancer. There's no two ways about this. It 3787 03:24:28.040 --> 03:24:31.360 doesn't matter what your genetics are, it doesn't matter how 3788 03:24:31.440 --> 03:24:35.520 often it gives you cancer. To deal with it, to 3789 03:24:36.040 --> 03:24:45.120 handle it. Okay. Plastics are pretty much all hydrocarbon and 3790 03:24:45.280 --> 03:24:50.040 fossil fuel based. This is the facts. And yes, you 3791 03:24:50.120 --> 03:24:52.079 have to add in other chemical components to turn them 3792 03:24:52.079 --> 03:24:53.639 into different types of plastic and stuff like that. And 3793 03:24:53.680 --> 03:24:56.360 I understand this, I do. But the fact that we 3794 03:24:56.600 --> 03:24:59.479 just watched Homeboy take these plastics and turn them into 3795 03:24:59.559 --> 03:25:04.440 crude oil, Okay, that tells you that they are hydrocarbon based. 3796 03:25:05.440 --> 03:25:11.879 They are known carcinogens. I am currently of the belief 3797 03:25:13.000 --> 03:25:15.879 that plastics are going to be our generation. And when 3798 03:25:15.920 --> 03:25:19.079 I say our generation, I don't mean millennials, I mean 3799 03:25:19.239 --> 03:25:23.559 our generation in the grand scheme of human existence. I 3800 03:25:23.760 --> 03:25:28.760 believe that plastic is about to be our generations lead. 3801 03:25:30.559 --> 03:25:34.559 Let me break this down for you. They knew that 3802 03:25:34.879 --> 03:25:39.000 lead was toxic in ancient Rome. Ancient Rome used to 3803 03:25:39.120 --> 03:25:40.799 use it on all kinds of things, a lot of 3804 03:25:40.840 --> 03:25:43.479 their aqueducts, a lot of their water. They had cups 3805 03:25:43.559 --> 03:25:45.879 made of lead, and all these things. And there was 3806 03:25:45.920 --> 03:25:49.319 a direct correlation between the time when they were using 3807 03:25:49.440 --> 03:25:53.280 lead for like eating and drinking tools, to when people 3808 03:25:53.360 --> 03:25:57.319 started losing their minds and emperors started going crazy and 3809 03:25:57.479 --> 03:26:00.840 murdering their people, and all of these things they knew 3810 03:26:00.959 --> 03:26:07.040 that so understood and documented. Yet somehow America late eighteen 3811 03:26:07.159 --> 03:26:12.200 hundreds early nineteen hundreds were using lead pipes in homes 3812 03:26:12.479 --> 03:26:18.239 and in buildings for water. There's also a very very 3813 03:26:18.399 --> 03:26:23.079 direct correlation between lead being used in water and the 3814 03:26:23.440 --> 03:26:28.200 crazy stream of murderers and sex offenders that came to 3815 03:26:28.319 --> 03:26:31.040 light in the seventies and eighties. There's actually more than 3816 03:26:31.079 --> 03:26:33.879 a few conspiracy theories to say that these people started 3817 03:26:33.920 --> 03:26:36.200 losing their minds and going agro and doing all this 3818 03:26:36.319 --> 03:26:39.479 bad shit because of the lead that they were exposed 3819 03:26:39.479 --> 03:26:42.399 to as children. Not one hundred percent across the board, 3820 03:26:42.479 --> 03:26:44.760 but in those specific cases, you could see like you 3821 03:26:44.799 --> 03:26:46.120 ever hear the old thing. Oh you ate a bunch 3822 03:26:46.159 --> 03:26:49.959 of paint chips as a kid, didn't you. Right, that's 3823 03:26:50.040 --> 03:26:52.879 not a baseless statement to make now. To our generation, 3824 03:26:53.000 --> 03:26:54.959 that means nothing. To the millennials, that means nothing. We 3825 03:26:55.079 --> 03:26:57.479 never dealt with lead paint, by and large, unless you 3826 03:26:57.559 --> 03:27:00.360 were like helping your dad tear down an old building 3827 03:27:00.479 --> 03:27:02.479 or something like that. Growing up, more often than not, 3828 03:27:02.559 --> 03:27:06.399 we didn't experience this. But our parents' generation and their 3829 03:27:06.479 --> 03:27:11.120 parents' generation absolutely did. And lead is this thing where 3830 03:27:11.159 --> 03:27:15.000 your body recognizes it as calcium. There's no two ways 3831 03:27:15.000 --> 03:27:16.440 about it. As soon as you're exposed to lead it 3832 03:27:16.479 --> 03:27:19.399 it goes straight to your bones. That's how it happens, 3833 03:27:20.120 --> 03:27:25.200 and it causes you to go agro and it's never good. 3834 03:27:25.319 --> 03:27:27.639 There's no upside to it. There's no way to fight it. 3835 03:27:28.120 --> 03:27:30.600 Once it enters your body. It's in that bitch. That's 3836 03:27:30.680 --> 03:27:35.280 how it goes. So again, that's a known thing. And 3837 03:27:35.360 --> 03:27:38.040 they still used it in water pipes, which led to 3838 03:27:38.159 --> 03:27:39.040 all this bad shit. 3839 03:27:40.000 --> 03:27:43.120 Oh dude, they were using it in fucking like fillings 3840 03:27:43.159 --> 03:27:46.120 for your teeth. Yes, yes, exactly. 3841 03:27:47.600 --> 03:27:51.520 Now, with that same mentality and knowing all of the 3842 03:27:51.639 --> 03:27:53.959 lobbyist groups that we just talked about. They're trying to 3843 03:27:54.000 --> 03:27:55.920 make it seem like plastics are the way of the future. 3844 03:27:56.559 --> 03:27:58.879 It's on you because you're not doing your part right. 3845 03:27:58.959 --> 03:28:01.319 It's not our fault from making trillions of tons of 3846 03:28:01.440 --> 03:28:03.959 plastic trash. That's not the case. Don't worry about the 3847 03:28:04.000 --> 03:28:06.159 microplastics in your balls? How did they get there? You 3848 03:28:06.280 --> 03:28:10.639 might ask, how much plastic have you eaten, Jonathan in 3849 03:28:10.760 --> 03:28:12.479 your life? How many times have you just taken a 3850 03:28:12.520 --> 03:28:14.120 big old bite out of a coke bottle? 3851 03:28:14.559 --> 03:28:14.680 Uh? 3852 03:28:14.920 --> 03:28:18.319 Never? Actually interesting, But I guarantee if you go to 3853 03:28:18.399 --> 03:28:21.280 the doctor and have him do a scan, your testicles 3854 03:28:21.360 --> 03:28:25.559 currently are full of microplastics. How did this happen if 3855 03:28:25.600 --> 03:28:27.479 we didn't ingest the microplastics? 3856 03:28:28.520 --> 03:28:31.120 Well? Are there micro micro plastics? 3857 03:28:32.040 --> 03:28:35.000 I mean they break down to basically like a molecular 3858 03:28:35.120 --> 03:28:37.319 level of a plastic, but you can't get rid of 3859 03:28:37.399 --> 03:28:41.040 it like PVC. Yeah, it can detegrate into a microscopic 3860 03:28:41.760 --> 03:28:45.600 PVC particle, but you can't get rid of that. It 3861 03:28:45.719 --> 03:28:46.239 doesn't work. 3862 03:28:46.799 --> 03:28:50.040 It's so like the same situation with like girls on 3863 03:28:50.159 --> 03:28:53.040 birth control and they pee into the toilet and then 3864 03:28:53.120 --> 03:28:56.000 eventually that stays within the water supply because the filtration 3865 03:28:56.159 --> 03:28:58.360 process can't filter the birth control. 3866 03:28:58.040 --> 03:29:01.000 Out kind of. But in this case, I think that 3867 03:29:01.079 --> 03:29:03.520 we did it to ourselves because we've been drinking from 3868 03:29:03.559 --> 03:29:09.719 plastic containers our entire life, plastics that are known to 3869 03:29:09.920 --> 03:29:14.040 be from a carcinogenic source. We know for a fact, 3870 03:29:14.040 --> 03:29:17.920 there's no two ways about it. Anything crude, oil based 3871 03:29:18.120 --> 03:29:23.000 derivative thereof whatever is going to give you cancer. We 3872 03:29:23.319 --> 03:29:26.319 know this for a fact. And like we said earlier, 3873 03:29:26.399 --> 03:29:29.040 that bottle of Desanni, even though you were the first 3874 03:29:29.079 --> 03:29:31.840 person to crack it open and drink it, the chemicals 3875 03:29:31.959 --> 03:29:36.440 leaching into it, the particular microplastics, if you will, have 3876 03:29:36.600 --> 03:29:39.559 already leached into them by the time you get to 3877 03:29:39.639 --> 03:29:42.159 it and open it up and drink it. It's already 3878 03:29:42.200 --> 03:29:44.280 in the water. There's a way to filter that out. 3879 03:29:44.479 --> 03:29:49.600 It's in there. So we know that plastic is bad 3880 03:29:49.680 --> 03:29:51.959 for us, we know there's no way to get rid 3881 03:29:52.000 --> 03:29:54.280 of it, and we know that it's going to give 3882 03:29:54.360 --> 03:29:59.120 us cancer. Yet how much of our lives right now? 3883 03:29:59.440 --> 03:30:01.840 Right now, I have a mic stand. It's made of plastic. 3884 03:30:02.159 --> 03:30:05.520 The microphone components are made of plastic, This mixer is 3885 03:30:05.600 --> 03:30:09.200 made of plastic. All of this is made from cancer, 3886 03:30:09.600 --> 03:30:15.600 giving chemicals not causing giving chemicals, and we use them 3887 03:30:16.079 --> 03:30:18.959 without fail, NonStop because we have no other options for 3888 03:30:19.000 --> 03:30:22.040 a lot of our components for our modern life. And 3889 03:30:22.200 --> 03:30:25.040 I am currently of the belief that they knew this 3890 03:30:25.479 --> 03:30:28.040 and they're doing it anyway. We are going to have 3891 03:30:28.319 --> 03:30:31.479 so many health issues come through to fruition. How much 3892 03:30:31.600 --> 03:30:36.280 cancer is there now than there was fifty years ago? Yeah? 3893 03:30:36.440 --> 03:30:41.079 Well, I mean that's the thing is that a healthy 3894 03:30:41.159 --> 03:30:46.000 person is not a repeat customer. And especially whenever you 3895 03:30:46.239 --> 03:30:48.399 and think about it, even like this, dude, a lot 3896 03:30:48.520 --> 03:30:52.559 of even the medicine that like, they come in the 3897 03:30:52.639 --> 03:30:58.959 fucking petroleum capsules, right, So literally your medicine is causing 3898 03:30:59.079 --> 03:31:00.399 a fucking can sir. 3899 03:31:01.079 --> 03:31:07.319 Yes, yes, that's that's borderline what I'm saying right here, 3900 03:31:07.680 --> 03:31:11.040 that there's no two ways about this, but we use 3901 03:31:11.120 --> 03:31:15.559 it because that's what we have, right. I'm not blaming 3902 03:31:15.680 --> 03:31:18.760 any of y'all good cult members for using plastics in 3903 03:31:18.840 --> 03:31:19.840 your life. We all do. 3904 03:31:20.120 --> 03:31:20.399 I do. 3905 03:31:20.719 --> 03:31:22.799 It's the way it is. I drank from a plastic 3906 03:31:22.879 --> 03:31:25.600 bottle today. As a matter of fact, we all do 3907 03:31:25.719 --> 03:31:28.079 it probably on a daily basis. You have a plastic cup, 3908 03:31:28.600 --> 03:31:31.200 you have it, you know, one of those tupperware, plastic cup. 3909 03:31:31.600 --> 03:31:34.239 You go to McDonald's and you get an extra large 3910 03:31:34.319 --> 03:31:38.440 it's in a plastic cup. It's what's available. It's everywhere, 3911 03:31:39.600 --> 03:31:44.280 and it's killing us. Not just us, it's, according to 3912 03:31:44.360 --> 03:31:47.520 these people, killing the earth and there's no way about it, 3913 03:31:47.639 --> 03:31:49.639 and it's all going to these trash islands in the 3914 03:31:49.680 --> 03:31:50.399 middle of the ocean. 3915 03:31:52.159 --> 03:31:55.879 Yeah, I mean at that point, what do you do. 3916 03:31:56.000 --> 03:31:59.319 You blame it on capitalism, you know, Like, but. 3917 03:31:59.399 --> 03:32:01.840 That's the thing, right, they're saying, we could buy less things, 3918 03:32:01.959 --> 03:32:06.000 create less trash. Okay, easier said than done for a 3919 03:32:06.079 --> 03:32:07.799 lot of people. Yeah, if you're living on a self 3920 03:32:07.799 --> 03:32:11.360 sustaining farm somewhere, you might have a better shot at 3921 03:32:11.440 --> 03:32:14.120 using less plastics than the rest of us. But even still, 3922 03:32:15.879 --> 03:32:18.680 your mail, your mail, the paper that it comes in 3923 03:32:19.159 --> 03:32:21.680 has a little plastic loop where you can read to 3924 03:32:22.040 --> 03:32:26.719 so and so there's no way to get around it realistically. 3925 03:32:27.479 --> 03:32:33.239 So yeah, basically good cult members in overarching theme on 3926 03:32:33.399 --> 03:32:39.840 this one, recycling is a scam and it also doubles 3927 03:32:39.879 --> 03:32:42.959 as a psyop that they have been using against us 3928 03:32:43.479 --> 03:32:47.879 since nineteen seventy one. It's pretty incredible. So whenever I 3929 03:32:47.959 --> 03:32:50.719 found these things out, I simply had to share the 3930 03:32:50.799 --> 03:32:52.600 news good cult members. I'm sorry to be the one 3931 03:32:52.639 --> 03:32:54.639 to tell you the bad news on this one, but 3932 03:32:54.920 --> 03:32:56.600 I simply couldn't hold this to myself. 3933 03:32:57.399 --> 03:33:00.760 Yeah. Well, I mean, what you're gonna do? You know, 3934 03:33:00.920 --> 03:33:04.719 there's as just the world we live in, and uh, 3935 03:33:05.879 --> 03:33:08.360 there's no way about it. I mean, the best thing 3936 03:33:08.440 --> 03:33:10.360 that you can do is try and limit it as 3937 03:33:10.440 --> 03:33:14.959 much as you can. You know, maybe drink from glass. 3938 03:33:15.360 --> 03:33:19.000 I mean, glass is usually the best way to drink anything. 3939 03:33:19.200 --> 03:33:20.799 You know, they say that, you know, even if you're 3940 03:33:20.799 --> 03:33:23.559 going to keep something stored like leftovers or anything, put 3941 03:33:23.559 --> 03:33:27.040 it in glass as opposed to the plastic containers. If 3942 03:33:27.079 --> 03:33:29.959 you're going to drink water, maybe try and find the 3943 03:33:30.719 --> 03:33:32.719 if you're gonna go to the gas station and get like, 3944 03:33:33.000 --> 03:33:37.600 they have glass water bottles, like like Perier and Loss 3945 03:33:37.760 --> 03:33:40.959 I think still does the glass bottles. Yo, everybody's got 3946 03:33:41.040 --> 03:33:46.760 I'm not just the Simple Life or the Stanley Cup 3947 03:33:46.920 --> 03:33:49.680 or whatever these things are. There are mugs that you 3948 03:33:49.760 --> 03:33:52.760 can buy that are metal, that are reusable. 3949 03:33:53.159 --> 03:33:55.639 There's glass you could buy that is reusable, And I'm 3950 03:33:55.639 --> 03:33:59.360 saying limit the amount of plastic you are, like, minimalize 3951 03:33:59.399 --> 03:34:03.319 it at an as needed basis only right. And if 3952 03:34:03.360 --> 03:34:07.280 you are going to recycle, recycle the glasses and the metals, Okay, 3953 03:34:07.360 --> 03:34:11.079 these are good and they are absolutely transferable in that way. 3954 03:34:11.920 --> 03:34:14.600 But plastics, I'm not saying one hundred percent it's not 3955 03:34:14.760 --> 03:34:18.639 worth it. I'm saying ninety eight percent it's not worth Actually, 3956 03:34:18.879 --> 03:34:21.799 according to the statistics, ninety five percent of it is 3957 03:34:21.920 --> 03:34:25.840 just not worth it. Paper, yeah, you can recycle it 3958 03:34:25.879 --> 03:34:27.440 if you want. You probably do better just to go 3959 03:34:27.520 --> 03:34:30.159 start a fire in your backyard, you know, enjoy it. 3960 03:34:30.559 --> 03:34:34.920 Fires are fun, cardboard just burn them. It's okay. Don't 3961 03:34:34.920 --> 03:34:37.280 start a forest fire. Okay, depending on where you live. 3962 03:34:37.399 --> 03:34:39.799 Some people have burn bands and they can't do fires. 3963 03:34:39.879 --> 03:34:41.920 And I get that. If you're in an area where 3964 03:34:41.959 --> 03:34:45.680 you can burn your trash, don't burn the plastics. Burn 3965 03:34:45.760 --> 03:34:49.360 the paper and the cardboards and do that. If nothing else, 3966 03:34:49.360 --> 03:34:51.200 They'll save you some room in your trash can when 3967 03:34:51.239 --> 03:34:53.200 you bring it to the street. I'm just saying, there's 3968 03:34:54.239 --> 03:34:56.760 we got to start thinking more critically. This is in 3969 03:34:56.920 --> 03:34:59.520 some public service announcement, But at the same time, all 3970 03:34:59.600 --> 03:35:01.760 of our good cult members know this, and that's why 3971 03:35:01.879 --> 03:35:03.840 they think critically. They wouldn't be listening to this show 3972 03:35:03.879 --> 03:35:04.920 if they were not doing that. 3973 03:35:05.280 --> 03:35:08.799 And also, don't be gas lit by by companies like this. 3974 03:35:09.120 --> 03:35:12.000 This is the biggest thing. It's like, yeah, everybody can 3975 03:35:12.079 --> 03:35:15.719 do their own little part and and uh not partaking 3976 03:35:16.120 --> 03:35:19.399 in all of this plastic, cancerous kind of shit. But 3977 03:35:19.959 --> 03:35:23.079 you know it's it's inescapable, so just try and try 3978 03:35:23.159 --> 03:35:25.760 and be mindful. But honestly, we need to be we 3979 03:35:25.879 --> 03:35:28.319 need to be looking at the lobbyist. We need to 3980 03:35:28.360 --> 03:35:31.959 be looking at these corporations that are the ones that 3981 03:35:32.120 --> 03:35:34.600 are creating it in the first place. Whenever they're going 3982 03:35:34.680 --> 03:35:37.360 to sit there and fucking gaslight you or you got 3983 03:35:37.399 --> 03:35:42.479 the recycling foundations or whatever that are gaslighting you turn 3984 03:35:42.600 --> 03:35:45.920 the arrow the other way and just be like, how 3985 03:35:45.959 --> 03:35:49.079 about stop making it? How about that? You know, like 3986 03:35:49.360 --> 03:35:52.760 it's so bad, it's so harmful, and we're polluting and 3987 03:35:52.840 --> 03:35:56.079 we're littering, Stop fucking making it like it. It seems 3988 03:35:56.120 --> 03:36:00.840 like a pretty obvious answer, but obviously, you know there's 3989 03:36:01.159 --> 03:36:04.159 gonna be lobbyists that are going to have some clap 3990 03:36:04.239 --> 03:36:07.959 back with that. And we know how it is, money 3991 03:36:08.040 --> 03:36:12.040 always wins, I mean where the money goes. That's if 3992 03:36:12.079 --> 03:36:15.799 you're wondering why we all have plastic in our nutsacks. 3993 03:36:17.040 --> 03:36:19.559 I mean, it's not necessarily your fault. I mean, that's 3994 03:36:19.680 --> 03:36:22.719 just it's I mean, I'm not trying to not place 3995 03:36:22.799 --> 03:36:25.920 blame on the individual, but let's just call it like 3996 03:36:26.040 --> 03:36:27.799 it is. It's it's really their fault. 3997 03:36:28.479 --> 03:36:30.719 I mean, it really is the same one like lead poisoning. 3998 03:36:31.159 --> 03:36:32.840 Most of the people that had lead poisoning in the 3999 03:36:32.879 --> 03:36:36.799 early in the mid nineteen hundreds, they weren't It's not 4000 03:36:36.920 --> 03:36:39.879 their fault. Lead paint was seen as the best paint. 4001 03:36:40.159 --> 03:36:43.319 That's why they used it. Now, we could do a 4002 03:36:43.399 --> 03:36:45.559 whole other episode. Matter of fact, as you're talking about lead, 4003 03:36:45.639 --> 03:36:47.559 we're gonna do it. There's another episode we're gonna do. 4004 03:36:47.600 --> 03:36:50.799 We're basically using lead to the level that they did, 4005 03:36:50.920 --> 03:36:53.520 especially with lead based fuels and things like that. They 4006 03:36:53.680 --> 03:36:55.559 knew that that was gonna kill you, but they sold 4007 03:36:55.600 --> 03:36:57.879 it to you anyway, and they had lobbying groups that 4008 03:36:57.920 --> 03:37:01.559 were right there to sidestep it the whole way through, 4009 03:37:01.840 --> 03:37:04.120 knowing that there were better additives they could have used, 4010 03:37:04.159 --> 03:37:06.879 but fuck them. We're gonna talk about that in another episode. 4011 03:37:06.920 --> 03:37:09.159 But when it comes to the plastics, no, it's not 4012 03:37:09.479 --> 03:37:12.000 your fault. It's none of our faults. That's what we 4013 03:37:12.239 --> 03:37:15.159 have to go by. That's what's available to us. And 4014 03:37:15.239 --> 03:37:18.559 unless you're gonna start your own manufacturing facility just for 4015 03:37:18.680 --> 03:37:21.000 your own personal use, you're kind of left with what 4016 03:37:21.159 --> 03:37:26.520 you got, Okay. But yes, the corporations that are doing 4017 03:37:26.600 --> 03:37:28.760 everything they can to get out of the mandates and 4018 03:37:28.760 --> 03:37:31.559 the EPA regulations and all of that to continue to 4019 03:37:31.680 --> 03:37:35.120 toxify not just our error in our water, in our earth, 4020 03:37:35.440 --> 03:37:39.280 but our physical bodies. They should be held accountable. Will 4021 03:37:39.360 --> 03:37:42.600 they probably not. They got lawyers or on top of 4022 03:37:42.719 --> 03:37:45.879 lawyers for their lawyers, and they'll be able to fight 4023 03:37:45.959 --> 03:37:48.799 the case a lot longer than you will. So we 4024 03:37:49.000 --> 03:37:51.680 just wanted everybody to be aware of it, start making 4025 03:37:51.799 --> 03:37:54.600 some better decisions for yourself, to whatever level that looks 4026 03:37:54.639 --> 03:37:56.479 like for you. I'm not your dad, okay, do you? 4027 03:37:57.520 --> 03:38:00.120 But yeah, this is a part of it, man, This 4028 03:38:00.239 --> 03:38:01.959 is how it all goes. And good cult members, if 4029 03:38:01.959 --> 03:38:03.840 you would like to let us know what you think 4030 03:38:03.920 --> 03:38:06.479 about this. You think recycling is good and we are 4031 03:38:06.520 --> 03:38:09.200 completely off base here. You think that it is all 4032 03:38:09.280 --> 03:38:12.600 Ponzi scheme and it's all fake and possibly gay, and 4033 03:38:12.840 --> 03:38:15.719 you are happy that you found out this information. Listen, 4034 03:38:15.799 --> 03:38:18.200 don't just take our words for it. 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