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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>single day on your favorite podcast platform. Man, there's never

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<v Speaker 1>been a time like it in American history. Eight five

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing we know for certain, if that the

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<v Speaker 1>next three months are going to be whacked, just totally whack.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't wait to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 1>So happy to have Dick Wadhams in studio with us

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<v Speaker 1>if you're new to the state or maybe the planet.

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<v Speaker 1>Dick has been one of the most successful political activist

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<v Speaker 1>conservative political activist in decades and has won a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of big races in Colorad. I don't know, nobody wins them all,

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<v Speaker 1>and Dick hasn't either, but he's won more than anybody

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<v Speaker 1>else I know in this state right now and lots

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<v Speaker 1>of other places also. And Dick and I don't agree

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<v Speaker 1>on everything, but but I think we agree on amost everything.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think that batting average is rich over

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<v Speaker 1>the years, because you've been coming on with me over

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<v Speaker 1>the years, ninth over the decades, Yeah, probably about nine

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<v Speaker 1>to fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>So I cannot wait.

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<v Speaker 1>These are going to be fresh takes because Dick and

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't talked about any of this stuff that's been

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<v Speaker 1>going on.

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<v Speaker 2>The show today is going to feature, as promoted.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the sound that I believe is just going

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<v Speaker 1>to bury Kamala Harris over the course of the campaign. Richard,

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<v Speaker 1>this high she's on right now, I say it's a

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<v Speaker 1>sugar high. It's going to get even better for her shortly.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think she's going to start coming back down,

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<v Speaker 1>and once she does, I think she just keeps coming

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<v Speaker 1>back down.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you see this, Well, she will be announcing

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<v Speaker 3>her vice presidential choice on Tuesday, apparently embarking on a

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<v Speaker 3>four or five days swing through competitive states, and then

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<v Speaker 3>the Democratic National Convention begins, and of course all the

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<v Speaker 3>focus will be on the Democrats and her, So she's

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<v Speaker 3>August is basically going to be taken up with Harris's stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>But then once you get into September, it will be

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<v Speaker 3>a wild ride. And I agree there's a lot in

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<v Speaker 3>her background that does not play well for her, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's when the public will start saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think there's another dynamic as well. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>just all about her. It's also about the strengths of Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of focus often on, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>weaknesses of Trump or the mistakes of Trump, but there

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<v Speaker 1>are a ton of strengths as well. And I think, Dick,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen is as we start to get

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<v Speaker 1>closer to election month, right, because the voting starts mid September,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a little bit later in September in.

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<v Speaker 2>Some key states.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think what's going to happen is at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's also going to be after Labor Day and

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<v Speaker 1>that things are settling in it's going to dawn on

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<v Speaker 1>most of the American people that, Okay, it's come down

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<v Speaker 1>to these two. You know, the Good Lord is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be on the ballot. It's come down to

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<v Speaker 1>these two and a choice between these two. And at

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<v Speaker 1>that point, I think it's going to be a relatively

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<v Speaker 1>easy choice for a lot more people that than most

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<v Speaker 1>perceive right now, because Trump has been there strength versus weakness,

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<v Speaker 1>the accomplishments of the first term and her weaknesses. So

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the other element I see is is, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump has his flaws, but he has major strengths

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<v Speaker 1>and accomplishments to offset the flaws.

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<v Speaker 2>She has her flaws.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see major strengths and accomplishments to offset her flaws.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't know if I totally agree with that, Dan, Listen,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm no Kamala harris Man. In fact, I find her

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<v Speaker 3>very unocceptable to say it mildly.

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<v Speaker 2>She is the most.

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<v Speaker 3>Liberal member, or was the most liberal member the US Senate.

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<v Speaker 3>She took positions in California when she was Attorney General

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<v Speaker 3>and a US Senator that are repulsive to me. But

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<v Speaker 3>she's twenty years younger than Trump. Has had a good

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<v Speaker 3>two weeks, There's no doubt about it. And Dan, I've

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<v Speaker 3>front of the black journalists, it's a classic case on

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<v Speaker 3>why he could lose this race because that was a disaster.

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<v Speaker 3>And if he can, if he continues to introduce race

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<v Speaker 2>In novelay, let me.

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<v Speaker 1>Ask you about that, because I said at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>whether she's represented herself as black or not. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he should have gone there. I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope he doesn't do it again. But the separate

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<v Speaker 1>issue of how it's going to play politically, You and

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of other smart people have said it's a disaster politically.

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<v Speaker 1>You hear other arguments that no, politically, overall, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to help him, including with some people of color, because

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<v Speaker 1>it shows a strength, that shows that willingness to walk

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<v Speaker 1>into you know that the liberal lion's den as he

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<v Speaker 1>of these major network liberal inquisitors, and that it plays

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<v Speaker 1>into that brand of his for strength, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>this election could be decided simply on strength versus weakness.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, first of all, I thought when I heard he

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<v Speaker 3>was going to go to the Black Journalist conference, I

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<v Speaker 3>applauded that decision. I thought that was a great decision.

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<v Speaker 3>But when he turned it into an immediate attack, a

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<v Speaker 3>racial attack on her, that's when he blew it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I listen, I saw the interview.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw the first question from the ABC News reporter

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<v Speaker 3>that was a litany of all the things he's done,

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<v Speaker 3>which are many and many of them are very bad.

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<v Speaker 3>And rather than handling that in a much more effective way,

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<v Speaker 3>he decided to go straight to the race card, I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that's the trouble with Trump. He has every

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<v Speaker 3>there is every reason why he should not win the selection,

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<v Speaker 3>but he could.

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<v Speaker 2>He could very well find a way not to win.

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<v Speaker 1>So the way I saw that first question is it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a question at all. It was an attack, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that some of the elements of the attack misrepresented.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the premise was misrepresented. But I saw it

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<v Speaker 1>as an outright attack on him, which is where I

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<v Speaker 1>think politically, I could see him gaining from it. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish he had not gone to you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>did she become black? I wish he hadn't done any

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<v Speaker 1>of that. But in terms of how he handled that attack,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that helped him. And I'm not talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the comments about when did she become black? I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about kept as cool. He sat there and he took it,

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<v Speaker 1>but then he came back. He came back strong, and

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<v Speaker 1>he came back strong in some other ways beyond the

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<v Speaker 1>mistake of talking about when did she become black? So

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<v Speaker 1>I just think he handled much of that well. I

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<v Speaker 1>wish he couldn't have said the other thing. But listen,

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<v Speaker 1>our little thing here just represents what's going on in America, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And and so I think you see that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>split view of that. I think your point would be,

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<v Speaker 1>as a guy who's won a lot of races, I've

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<v Speaker 1>won none, I think your point would be that, wait

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<v Speaker 1>a second, there is a clear path to victory, and

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<v Speaker 1>that path to victory is focusing.

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<v Speaker 2>On this other stuff. Yes, yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 3>What is that other stuff you mean of his What

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<v Speaker 3>is Trump's path to victory? His path to victory is

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<v Speaker 3>just acting like he wants to be president and not

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<v Speaker 3>not not engaging in a.

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<v Speaker 2>Race attack, racial attack on Harris.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean then and and and believe me, there has

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<v Speaker 2>What they did. They're trying to to they're trying to move.

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<v Speaker 3>The debate to her awful record, and he goes into

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<v Speaker 3>that black journalist event and makes it into a racial attack.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was not and that was not what they

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<v Speaker 3>and Ryan talking yesterday, and you were right talking about

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty eight and the fact that George H. W.

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<v Speaker 3>Bush was double digits down, and then they basically cut

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of other the rape comment and the debate. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>we can go through it, but let's remember one of

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<v Speaker 3>was because George HW. Bush did not make any mistakes

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<v Speaker 3>from that point on, right, And there's still.

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<v Speaker 1>Plenty of time. There's plenty of time to run a

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<v Speaker 1>near perfect campaign. But here's my bigger point is we

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<v Speaker 1>have to hit this hard break, Dick, and tell me

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<v Speaker 1>before the break if my premise is wrong. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think there's ever been a candidate who had more out

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<v Speaker 1>there on tape. You don't have to bend twist the context.

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<v Speaker 1>There's never been anybody out there with as much ammo

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<v Speaker 1>to use as Kamala Harris. I mean, all of this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>She is in fact a San Francisco radical. She has

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<v Speaker 1>said all those things on tape. You're in hard to

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<v Speaker 1>the left in San Francisco. So I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>any candidate has ever had as much ammo on an

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<v Speaker 2>On her. If you're talking policy, I totally agree.

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<v Speaker 3>D Well, let's come back and dive into Trump is

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<v Speaker 3>the guy who's going to move it away from that debate.

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<v Speaker 1>And well, let's talk about that more when we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>When we come back. Obviously they're running a basement campaign

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<v Speaker 1>with Kamala Harris. They know the real Kamala Harris. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to let her talk because she often gets

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<v Speaker 1>hurt when she does. When we come back, we'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you an example of that from last night when they

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<v Speaker 1>did allow her to say a few words off script

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<v Speaker 1>did not end well for her here on the Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Capla Show.

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<v Speaker 4>And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to bring us back to the issue of

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<v Speaker 1>whether Kamala Harris is identified as Indian or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Oh, that's very good.

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<v Speaker 4>But there's a lot of levels to this too.

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<v Speaker 5>It goes to Dick's point about are we seeing Donald

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<v Speaker 5>Trump's true colors shining through? And would you use the

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<v Speaker 5>term shining for it? I think Dick would not. It's

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<v Speaker 5>just so frustrating. I get where Dick's coming from too.

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<v Speaker 5>And one of the reasons I supported Ron DeSantis is

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<v Speaker 5>just because he was so much more reliable, dependable, consistent

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<v Speaker 5>in his messaging. You could trust him. And Donald Trump's

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<v Speaker 5>just this wild card and he is who he is.

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<v Speaker 6>Brother.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to tell you something right now, and there

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<v Speaker 1>is no doubt about it on the face of the earth,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is Ron de Santis would be a great

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<v Speaker 1>president if he was our nominee. Now he gets smoked

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<v Speaker 1>by Kamala Harris. I absolutely think so. And here's why, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously she's got the entire media apparatus, the entire

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<v Speaker 1>media apparatus, so you know, this whole thing is geared

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<v Speaker 1>to lies. This whole thing is geared to cover up

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<v Speaker 1>and here's why Trump beats her in the end. In

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<v Speaker 1>Ron DeSantis would never have. And that's not a criticisms

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<v Speaker 1>of DeSantis. I think Dick Trump is unique in what

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<v Speaker 2>But he had that in twenty twenty as well, and

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<v Speaker 2>he lost.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that's COVID, everybody keeps I mean, come on,

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<v Speaker 2>Dick Trump wins in a landslide. I'm not sure he

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<v Speaker 3>You had a lot of voters, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>And let me go to the gem lines. But here's

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<v Speaker 1>Even with COVID, and even with him getting COVID and

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<v Speaker 1>therefore having a bad first debate, he's still almost won.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a small little handful of votes against a

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden who hold the count of allegedly being some

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<v Speaker 1>is a San Francisco radical. Brian and Arvada here on

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<v Speaker 1>the Dan Kapli Show with Dan and Dick Wadhams.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, the reason in twenty twenty that Trump lost is

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<v Speaker 7>we all know. Put it this way, the old folks

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<v Speaker 7>homes guys. They voted twenty four percent of the old

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<v Speaker 7>it went up to ninety six percent. Now you know

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<v Speaker 7>what the difference in that is. And we're talking to

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<v Speaker 7>Alzheimer's victims and everything. So Dick wadhams he's living in

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<v Speaker 7>a la la land of Oh Trump's got We're done

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<v Speaker 2>We don't care.

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<v Speaker 7>And who's she going to pick for a running mate?

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<v Speaker 7>Shaking a pict Shapiro? Oh sure she is, Remember no

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<v Speaker 7>How is she going to do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Especially in Brian, Brian, can I say this for the record,

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<v Speaker 1>I have never in my life hoped more that you

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Brian.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you are so correct that she does not

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<v Speaker 1>pick Shapiro, because I think she will, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be a smart pick because right now Trump's on

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<v Speaker 3>And Dan I would agree with the caller that she

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<v Speaker 3>will have a problem to her left with the Palestinian ground,

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<v Speaker 3>and that is the danger she has.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, fine, but it goes it goes back to my

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<v Speaker 1>John Travolta theory of this election, right, and Ryan, why

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<v Speaker 1>don't we have that music. You have every other bit

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<v Speaker 1>of music out there. Have you ever heard this song? Dick,

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<v Speaker 1>staying alive? Stay okay, you gotta stay alive to have

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to win. So you're right, she's going to

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<v Speaker 1>have these problems on her left with Shapiro, but she's

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<v Speaker 1>at least she'll be alive to deal with those problems

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<v Speaker 1>if she loses Pennsylvania. She's got nothing right.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally agree with you. Yeah, No, Shapiro is the best

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<v Speaker 2>So I hope she does not pick Shapiro, but unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>she will. Lenn In Denver, You're on with Dana. Dick.

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<v Speaker 8>Hello, okay, number one, I have some housekeeping to do

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<v Speaker 8>with gain Dan. First of all, a me, I promised

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<v Speaker 8>I was wrong about Biden getting out, I'd let you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>You said you'd send me a thousand dollars check.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh no, I think it was a dinner somewhere, like

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<v Speaker 8>steak somewhere, but anyway, with a bunch of you, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 8>So I'm going to do that. But also, Dick, okay,

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<v Speaker 8>oh gosh, where do I start?

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<v Speaker 5>Number one?

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<v Speaker 8>Dick I want you to do a mail Kulpa. Just

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<v Speaker 8>start out with because you kept saying Trump wasn't going

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<v Speaker 8>to be the nominee. I just think people are tired

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<v Speaker 8>of Trump. Well, you know what, I have never heard you.

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<v Speaker 8>Maybe I've missed that call of you getting on and

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<v Speaker 8>saying you were wrong about that. Maybe you did and

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<v Speaker 8>I missed it, but I couldn't hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't recall that I ever said that.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh oh absolutely, I can play.

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<v Speaker 7>The podcast, please do?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you go get it now and play it for me? Please?

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<v Speaker 2>Please do.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll wait for you. I'll wait for you. Go ahead,

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<v Speaker 3>please listen. You got all the time in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Go go cut, Go get the podcast and bring and

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<v Speaker 6>It for us.

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<v Speaker 8>You know what, Ryan can.

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan? Did I ever do that?

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<v Speaker 7>Did do you want?

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<v Speaker 9>Yes?

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<v Speaker 8>You did, and and I played it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if you're gonna come on and make an accusation

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<v Speaker 8>You know what.

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<v Speaker 6>You can be a rude and I'm general you damn right, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, please get me, but go ahead, please go get

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<v Speaker 3>the please get please go get the podcast and play

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<v Speaker 3>it for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm waiting for you to do it, Donna. I miss here.

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<v Speaker 8>Ryan can get it, because.

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<v Speaker 2>Roy can get it.

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<v Speaker 3>So Ryan's fault, Mike Ilite, Oh, I see you're gonna

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<v Speaker 8>Is that how you're gonna play it?

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<v Speaker 6>Pick?

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<v Speaker 8>Is that how you're gonna play? This is gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>You're the one who picked this fight. I'm just responding, please,

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<v Speaker 2>But what else do you have to say?

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<v Speaker 8>I'm asking why you didn't own up to that, because.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say it. As far as I recall.

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<v Speaker 8>I do promise you know what I'm God is my

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<v Speaker 8>witness and I'm a Christian. You said it also, Dick,

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<v Speaker 8>find it and.

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<v Speaker 6>Call you back.

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<v Speaker 2>May I ask you a question?

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<v Speaker 8>Can I finish talking? Or you just gonna both.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk over me? I didn't know I was talking over you.

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<v Speaker 8>Gentleman, Dick. Are you gonna be a brave gentleman and

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<v Speaker 8>let me talk? Are you going to be a gentleman

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<v Speaker 8>and let me talk? Are you going to just try

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<v Speaker 2>Lynn? Nobody's talking over you?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, good, okay, okay, Dick. I think that no matter

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<v Speaker 8>what Trump did, and this was just one more thing

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<v Speaker 8>for you, you can't stand him and you know what

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<v Speaker 8>you are. You are totally yesterday politically, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go, Here we go, here we go, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>here we go.

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<v Speaker 7>You finished.

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<v Speaker 8>You couldn't do what Trump did. And in ten decade

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<v Speaker 7>Time ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Who has one more and Dick who in Colorado has

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<v Speaker 1>won more than Dick Wadhams.

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<v Speaker 8>You know what I'm talking I'm talking about It was

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care if it never has Berow, let's let's

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<v Speaker 2>The start is the start is Lynda started.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, you would never have been You've never done anything.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's getting a little person.

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<v Speaker 8>But yes, it is a manly man.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you bet you don't get that? Go get that podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>Go get that podcast whatever link.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know what you're all being there. I feel

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<v Speaker 8>like you're playing this music and.

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<v Speaker 9>Playing the music podcast Ryan's playing the music. Then can

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<v Speaker 9>we all agree on something? Can we all agree on

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<v Speaker 9>some just ended on a Rodney King moment.

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<v Speaker 1>If if President Trump focuses on the radicalism of Kamala

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<v Speaker 2>Can we agree on that day back in a flash

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<v Speaker 2>on the Dan Caplis Show.

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, what little kid has not jumped up and down

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<v Speaker 1>on the bed, you know, just kicking his legs out

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<v Speaker 2>Have any of us, any of us? But you have

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<v Speaker 2>never done that?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, Dick, you have missed out, my friend,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the great joys in life, almost as much

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<v Speaker 1>fun as this last night. And think about it. They

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<v Speaker 1>have not allowed and I don't know who the cabal is.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, think about it. The cabal deposed a democratically

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<v Speaker 1>elected Democrat nominee, installed the candidate they want, and at

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<v Speaker 1>this point appears to be running that campaign very well,

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<v Speaker 1>including the apparent VP pick of Josh Shapiro. Let's hope

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<v Speaker 1>those reports are wrong. But one of the smart things

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<v Speaker 1>that Cabala is doing is they're not letting Kamala Harris talk.

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<v Speaker 1>And last night they let her talk for how long

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<v Speaker 10>This is just an extraordinary testament to the importance of

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and listen, I don't want to focus my analysis

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<v Speaker 1>of this campaign on Kamala Harris's saying stuff that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make sense, because that's not how the campaign is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be one. I mean, the campaign is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be one on her radicalism or provable radicalism compared to

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's strength and accomplishments. But it is worth noting. It

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<v Speaker 2>Ability to govern.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a smart person, I think, intellectually, and she can

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<v Speaker 1>She's no dummy, but but she there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of moments like that, and she she says a lot

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<v Speaker 3>No, and the way she lures her voice and tries

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Dick Wadhams in studio with us. Let's go back

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<v Speaker 1>to the phone lines as you mentioned they're in Fuego.

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<v Speaker 1>With so much going on, Jerry in beautiful Colorado springs

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<v Speaker 6>Welcome, y, Welcome Dan. First of all, let me say

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<v Speaker 6>that I definitely agree with you, Ol Harley when you

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<v Speaker 6>for many years, several decades about that, but no more. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 6>what do I want to talk to you about? With

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<v Speaker 6>something we just us here a couple of months ago,

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<v Speaker 6>and we disagree about it, and it has to do

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<v Speaker 6>with Ukraine and Russia. I would like to stay just

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<v Speaker 6>a few facts from there that of course.

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<v Speaker 1>May I ask you a favorite, Jerry, because we're on

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<v Speaker 1>this different topic today, there's so much happening on the

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<v Speaker 1>political front with Kamala Harrison, Donald Trump. I'm sure we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be deep diving Ukraine again soon. But I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're deeply committed to this, and I know you

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<v Speaker 1>probably have a lot of facts and figures and this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to take a while. Can we do it

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<v Speaker 1>on a Ukraine day?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? When will that be?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>The next time there's big news out of there, Pard

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<v Speaker 1>the next time there's big news. But can we do this, Jerry,

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<v Speaker 1>without going through the whole back and forth on Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to just tell people what your conclusion

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<v Speaker 1>is and what it is about Ukraine?

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<v Speaker 2>You want them to know.

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<v Speaker 6>It's sad because I am. I've retired from the reserve

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<v Speaker 6>after twenty three years unlisted, and the feeling that gives me,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not happy. It hapn't at all about our country.

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<v Speaker 6>People warned of this. I was going to give you

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<v Speaker 6>the facts about who bigs intelligence, smart people about warning

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<v Speaker 6>about what's going to happen. When this happened, we pushed it,

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<v Speaker 6>and I think we pushed it because of General Eisenhower

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<v Speaker 6>when you left the presidency warned of the industrial military complex.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it has to do with money. We pushed

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<v Speaker 6>this war. We wanted to push it. If we want

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<v Speaker 6>to push Nail East, this war wouldn't be going on. Basically,

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<v Speaker 6>Can I give you lots of fact back that up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And Jerry, why don't we connect the next time and

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<v Speaker 1>there will be big news out of Ukraine sometime soon.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just the nature of it. So thank you Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>for understanding. There's just so much going on now on

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<v Speaker 1>the political front, including some stuff we need to cover

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<v Speaker 1>here in Colorado because obviously, uh, you know, there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>great turmoil within the Colorado Republican Party. It's reached the

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<v Speaker 1>point where Congressoman Bolbert has come out and strongly criticized

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<v Speaker 1>GOP chair Dave Williams, and I think at that point

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<v Speaker 1>everybody can see, wait a second, this isn't just some

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<v Speaker 1>establishment versus grassroots kind of thing. There is a core,

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<v Speaker 1>fundamental problem with Dave Willilliams and Lauren Bolbert's heart's harsh,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think actuate criticism of his confirms that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that was very significant because remember she was

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<v Speaker 3>one of the Republicans that the state party endorsed in

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<v Speaker 3>the primaries, and then she endorsed him in his primary,

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<v Speaker 3>and of course he went down by two to one margin,

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<v Speaker 3>thirty more than thirty points against the they're in the

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<v Speaker 3>fifth Congressional district. But it's not just Lauren Bobert Dan.

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<v Speaker 3>There are other people like Todd Watkins, the vice chairman

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<v Speaker 3>of the El Paso County Republican Party, who is a

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<v Speaker 3>strong supporter of Dave Williams when he got elected a

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<v Speaker 3>year ago, and now he's leading the charge against him

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<v Speaker 3>with trying to depose him, and there are many others

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<v Speaker 3>who are involved in that campaign as well. So he's

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<v Speaker 3>still got a few hardcores around him and he'll do

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<v Speaker 3>everything to hold on to this little ounce of power he.

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<v Speaker 2>Thinks he has. But we'll see what happens, how does

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<v Speaker 2>it end, and when does it end.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's a hearing before a judge on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 3>before the judge who put the restraining order on the

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<v Speaker 3>group that wants to have the meeting, and that will

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<v Speaker 3>be lifted. I think it will be lifted next week.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll have the meeting in a week or two after that.

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<v Speaker 3>He will be removed, but he won't leave. He will

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<v Speaker 3>refuse to leave. In fact, he'll just declare the meeting

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<v Speaker 3>that removed him as illegal and no and void and

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<v Speaker 3>they'll just keep so. Ultimately will probably happen dan Is.

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<v Speaker 3>The Republican National Committee will have to come in and

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<v Speaker 3>they will have to settle. If he's removed and he

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<v Speaker 3>refuses to leave, they will have to make the decision

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<v Speaker 3>on who is the state chairman of the Colorado Republican Party.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what happened in Michigan a year ago when they

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<v Speaker 3>elected Dave Williams type in Michigan that they had to

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<v Speaker 3>vote out, and they elected a former congressman to be

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<v Speaker 3>state chairman, and the Republican National Committee recognized in the

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<v Speaker 3>former congressman. So I would anticipate that's how it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to play out.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think clearly Congressman Bobert's decision to come out

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<v Speaker 1>and strongly criticize Dave Williams was the breakpoint, the tipping point.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you think she did that? Well, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Certainly haven't talked to her about it, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>congress I'm going to give her the benefit of the

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<v Speaker 3>doubt obviously that she could see that this is tearing

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<v Speaker 3>apart through Republican Party the way he's conducted himself. And Frankly, Dan,

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<v Speaker 3>the car Utta Republican Party is a shell right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the Caretto's son had a dramatically important story

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<v Speaker 3>today that there is absolutely nothing going on in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of get out the vote in the car Utter Republican Party.

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<v Speaker 3>The victory program that existed for decades, and that is

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<v Speaker 3>one of the fundamental duties of the state chairman and

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<v Speaker 3>the state party to identify and get out through Republican vote,

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<v Speaker 3>and nothing is happening on that front. And so he

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<v Speaker 3>does have a lot of time to try to expunge

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<v Speaker 3>anybody who disagrees with him. He has a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>time to assassinate the character of his predecessors, Christy Burton Brown.

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<v Speaker 3>He has time to endorse Republicans in primaries, which had

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<v Speaker 3>never been done before in the one hundred year history

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<v Speaker 3>of the Colorado Republican State Central Committee.

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<v Speaker 2>I could go on and on.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got plenty of time to destroy and to undermine,

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<v Speaker 3>but he has no he has no time to do

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<v Speaker 3>the fundamental role of the colretdor Republican Party, which is

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<v Speaker 3>to get the Republican vote out. And that's and so

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<v Speaker 3>Republicans will suffer this election because of that. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to play some sound now, which which in and of.

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<v Speaker 1>Itself tells you why Harris has no choice but to

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<v Speaker 1>pick Josh Shapiro as her VP. Josh Shapiro, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>governor of Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 10>There's no question I'm in favor of banning fracking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so she has to pick Josh Shapiro. Right, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have any chance to win Pennsylvania. Now, can Trump still

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<v Speaker 1>win Pennsylvania with Shapiro as the VP candidate.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, Trump said something at that the Black

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<v Speaker 3>Journalist's Conference when they brought up a JD. Vance and

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<v Speaker 3>I was, frankly, I was disappointed when he really put

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<v Speaker 3>distance between himself and JD. Evans of that thing. But

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<v Speaker 3>he says something that was actually right, which is, voters

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<v Speaker 3>don't vote on the vice presidential nominee and and and frankly,

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<v Speaker 3>Trump is ultimately right about that, even though I think

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<v Speaker 3>I think Shapiro would be a very solid choice when

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<v Speaker 3>it really gets down to it, presidential elections are about

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<v Speaker 3>the nominees and not about about the.

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<v Speaker 2>B VP selections.

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<v Speaker 3>So Shapiro, I think voters might say, we love you Shapiro,

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<v Speaker 3>but we're not going to vote for We're not going

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<v Speaker 3>to vote.

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<v Speaker 2>For her, especially here when she is young and healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not like right, right, like an older

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<v Speaker 1>candidate who may not make it through the term. But

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<v Speaker 1>I also believe Dick And of course there's no precedent

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<v Speaker 1>for this, so it's just based on my own analysis,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think there's there's this going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>special lasting bond between Pennsylvania and Trump could be because

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<v Speaker 1>of the fact the assassination attempt occurred there and how

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<v Speaker 1>well he handled it, Yes, and the great leadership he

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<v Speaker 1>offered in the fact it occurred on their soil. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's going to be a lasting bond there right

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<v Speaker 1>on through election day. Eight five for five A two

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<v Speaker 1>five five text d A N five seven seven three nine.

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<v Speaker 1>When we come back, going to play you a sound

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<v Speaker 1>bite that I think, in and of itself will cost

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris two swing states here on the Dan Kepler Show.

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<v Speaker 4>And now back to the Dan Kapler Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 11>And Yeah, I am radical.

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<v Speaker 12>I do believe that we need to get radical about

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<v Speaker 12>what we are doing and take it seriously right, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 12>I am radical. I do believe that we need to

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<v Speaker 12>get radical about what we are doing.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been to the border.

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<v Speaker 10>You haven't been to the border, and I haven't been

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<v Speaker 10>to Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight five five for zero five A two five five

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<v Speaker 1>the number. Just talking about how to beat Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe, even though she's on a high right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe there's a path here to Donald Trump beating

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<v Speaker 1>her very convincingly and helping down ticket as well. Dick

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<v Speaker 1>Wadhamson Studio Grateful for that because he's actually won a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of big races. Eight five five four zero five

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<v Speaker 1>A two five to five the number text d A

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<v Speaker 1>N five seven seven three nine before good lines, dick anything.

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<v Speaker 1>You just have to get off your chest and it's

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous insight. Up Brian and Arvetta, you're on the dan Kapitlis.

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<v Speaker 2>She'll welcome.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I'll keep it calm. Please don't hang up on me.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 11>Not to do. Wadhams always wants to tell us what

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<v Speaker 11>not to do. I'm not a big fan of Dave Williams.

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<v Speaker 11>Who does he has suggest we we vote for or

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<v Speaker 11>run the GOP party. I never hear that, never hear.

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<v Speaker 2>Who would you like to see run the party?

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<v Speaker 6>Run?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know who's gonna run. I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think Eli Bremmer who's running? Who will run

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<v Speaker 3>if if Dave.

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<v Speaker 2>Williams is deposed been a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Eli's running to replace him, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>Eli Bremer would be an outstanding chairman.

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<v Speaker 2>So I can throw that name out.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh Casper, huh, Casper back him?

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<v Speaker 2>No, Eli Bremmer, he's from cars.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm asking about Casper. Back him because he ran and lost.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not I'm not talking about Casper. I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 3>Eli Bremmer, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But Brian's asking if you would support Casper Casper who

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<v Speaker 1>stopped them?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I support Eli Bremmer, Franklin. So there you have it.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, at least we have you on the record of

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<v Speaker 11>what we should do and not what we should know.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, I you know, buddy, I've heard you

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<v Speaker 3>say that before. I got to tell you. You take a

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<v Speaker 3>look at every campaign I've ever run, and you tell

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<v Speaker 3>me that we didn't have a clear agenda, that we

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<v Speaker 3>ran a very strong contrast campaign with our opponents and

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<v Speaker 3>that's why we won. So I know how to win

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<v Speaker 3>a campaign. How many campaigns have you run? How many

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<v Speaker 3>campaigns have you run?

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<v Speaker 11>One in fifteen years?

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<v Speaker 6>Dick?

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<v Speaker 11>What happened?

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<v Speaker 6>Thirty? God?

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<v Speaker 2>There we go again. How many campaigns have you run?

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<v Speaker 11>But I'm not out there to have you.

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<v Speaker 3>How many campaigns would you please answer the question?

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<v Speaker 2>How many campaigns have you run?

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<v Speaker 6>Bro?

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<v Speaker 2>Huh? Zero?

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<v Speaker 7>Zero?

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<v Speaker 2>But you're an expert? Thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure, glad, I'm sure, glad. I sure wish you

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<v Speaker 3>would have been around to tell me what I was

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<v Speaker 3>doing wrong when we won those campaigns.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh but and that was a long time ago. We're

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<v Speaker 11>in a different environment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you're damn right.

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<v Speaker 3>We are in a totally different environment because Colorado has

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<v Speaker 3>swung far to the left, because these new people who

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<v Speaker 3>moved to Colorado. How many you know, you're a very

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<v Speaker 3>knowledgeable and important and smart guy. Tell me how many

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<v Speaker 3>people have moved to Colorado in the last twelve years?

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me you're smart, you know these things? How many?

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<v Speaker 2>Ernest how many?

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<v Speaker 11>I don't follow that enough?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, you're the expert.

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<v Speaker 3>You tell me that I am irrelevant, Then I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how to win campaigns. I asked you a very fundamental,

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<v Speaker 3>simple question. How many people have moved to Colorado since

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eleven?

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me and then tell me after you tell me

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<v Speaker 2>how many?

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me how that's affected the Colorado electorate. Tell you're

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<v Speaker 3>a smart guy, you tell go ahead, tell me.

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<v Speaker 11>You just want to attack me?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, because what did you do when you got

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<v Speaker 3>on the air right now?

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<v Speaker 2>You just you attacked me. As soon as you got

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<v Speaker 2>on the air, you attacked me. And yet when I

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<v Speaker 2>come back.

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<v Speaker 3>And refute everything you said, and I asked you questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you you you you.

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<v Speaker 3>Just curl up in your a fetal position and won't

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<v Speaker 3>respond to my questions.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me just just let me walk it through

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<v Speaker 2>for you.

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<v Speaker 3>So you do know the facts because you Oh, here

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<v Speaker 3>we go, nos, no solutions.

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<v Speaker 6>Really, I know you haven't offered us in thirty years.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my god, So now what? Oh my god, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>listening to you.

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<v Speaker 3>But Brian, I don't think Brian, Brian, eight hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 3>people moved to Colorado in the last thirteen years. They

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<v Speaker 3>totally changed the Colorado electorate that's now younger and more liberal.

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<v Speaker 2>We went from a third to third to third to.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we have almost fifty percent unaffiliated voters, twenty seven

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<v Speaker 3>percent Democratic, twenty three percent Republican. And believe me, those

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<v Speaker 3>eight hundred thousand people who moved to Colorado can't stand

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump. Now you might not want to hear that,

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<v Speaker 3>but they don't. So tell me, do you want to

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<v Speaker 3>refute anything I just said?

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<v Speaker 11>Moderate on every position then and lose.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh here we go, Brian, Let me ask him a

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<v Speaker 1>positive question. Let me ask you a positive question. Who

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<v Speaker 1>do you think we should be listening to in Colorado?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Dick's actually won a lot of big races

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<v Speaker 1>you say that doesn't matter because it was a long

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<v Speaker 1>time ago. Well, nobody's won since he did. So who

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<v Speaker 1>do you think we should be listening to right now

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<v Speaker 1>on how to win?

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<v Speaker 11>The whole thing is? Dan, we have to call a

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<v Speaker 11>less our.

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<v Speaker 2>Base right but time? Who do you think we should

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<v Speaker 2>be listening to the middle? Dan?

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<v Speaker 11>We lose? Who do you think run people in the middle?

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<v Speaker 2>Brian?

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<v Speaker 11>Who do we keep doing the same thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you think we should be listening to? Is

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<v Speaker 1>there anybody you have in mind? Anybody you see out

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<v Speaker 1>there is just kind of a great current modern political

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<v Speaker 1>strategist to has better ideas and we should be listening

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<v Speaker 1>to them because I'll get them up.

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<v Speaker 6>Podcast.

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<v Speaker 11>Ran a great campaign and he had something to say.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, but he didn't win. That's your standard, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm surely enjoying the what.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got about seconds.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what you're talking about? Like I told you before.

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<v Speaker 3>More of this from the Dan Capler Ship
