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Speaker 1: something new, and the one thing we know for sure,
Speaker 1: the only thing we know for certain, if that the
Speaker 1: next three months are going to be whacked, just totally whack.
Speaker 2: Can't wait to hear from you.
Speaker 1: So happy to have Dick Wadhams in studio with us
Speaker 1: if you're new to the state or maybe the planet.
Speaker 1: Dick has been one of the most successful political activist
Speaker 1: conservative political activist in decades and has won a lot
Speaker 1: of big races in Colorad. I don't know, nobody wins them all,
Speaker 1: and Dick hasn't either, but he's won more than anybody
Speaker 1: else I know in this state right now and lots
Speaker 1: of other places also. And Dick and I don't agree
Speaker 1: on everything, but but I think we agree on amost everything.
Speaker 1: What do you think that batting average is rich over
Speaker 1: the years, because you've been coming on with me over
Speaker 1: the years, ninth over the decades, Yeah, probably about nine
Speaker 1: to fifty.
Speaker 2: So I cannot wait.
Speaker 1: These are going to be fresh takes because Dick and
Speaker 1: I haven't talked about any of this stuff that's been
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 2: The show today is going to feature, as promoted.
Speaker 1: Some of the sound that I believe is just going
Speaker 1: to bury Kamala Harris over the course of the campaign. Richard,
Speaker 1: this high she's on right now, I say it's a
Speaker 1: sugar high. It's going to get even better for her shortly.
Speaker 1: But I think she's going to start coming back down,
Speaker 1: and once she does, I think she just keeps coming
Speaker 1: back down.
Speaker 3: How do you see this, Well, she will be announcing
Speaker 3: her vice presidential choice on Tuesday, apparently embarking on a
Speaker 3: four or five days swing through competitive states, and then
Speaker 3: the Democratic National Convention begins, and of course all the
Speaker 3: focus will be on the Democrats and her, So she's
Speaker 3: August is basically going to be taken up with Harris's stuff,
Speaker 3: But then once you get into September, it will be
Speaker 3: a wild ride. And I agree there's a lot in
Speaker 3: her background that does not play well for her, and
Speaker 3: that's when the public will start saying that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think there's another dynamic as well. It's not
Speaker 1: just all about her. It's also about the strengths of Trump.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of focus often on, you know, the
Speaker 1: weaknesses of Trump or the mistakes of Trump, but there
Speaker 1: are a ton of strengths as well. And I think, Dick,
Speaker 1: what's going to happen is as we start to get
Speaker 1: closer to election month, right, because the voting starts mid September,
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit later in September in.
Speaker 2: Some key states.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think what's going to happen is at that point,
Speaker 1: and it's also going to be after Labor Day and
Speaker 1: that things are settling in it's going to dawn on
Speaker 1: most of the American people that, Okay, it's come down
Speaker 1: to these two. You know, the Good Lord is not
Speaker 1: going to be on the ballot. It's come down to
Speaker 1: these two and a choice between these two. And at
Speaker 1: that point, I think it's going to be a relatively
Speaker 1: easy choice for a lot more people that than most
Speaker 1: perceive right now, because Trump has been there strength versus weakness,
Speaker 1: the accomplishments of the first term and her weaknesses. So
Speaker 1: I guess the other element I see is is, yeah,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump has his flaws, but he has major strengths
Speaker 1: and accomplishments to offset the flaws.
Speaker 2: She has her flaws.
Speaker 1: I don't see major strengths and accomplishments to offset her flaws.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if I totally agree with that, Dan, Listen,
Speaker 3: I'm no Kamala harris Man. In fact, I find her
Speaker 3: very unocceptable to say it mildly.
Speaker 2: She is the most.
Speaker 3: Liberal member, or was the most liberal member the US Senate.
Speaker 3: She took positions in California when she was Attorney General
Speaker 3: and a US Senator that are repulsive to me. But
Speaker 3: she's twenty years younger than Trump. Has had a good
Speaker 3: two weeks, There's no doubt about it. And Dan, I've
Speaker 3: got to tell you that that appearance by Trump in
Speaker 3: front of the black journalists, it's a classic case on
Speaker 3: why he could lose this race because that was a disaster.
Speaker 3: And if he can, if he continues to introduce race
Speaker 3: into this campaign, it's not well and badly for him.
Speaker 2: In novelay, let me.
Speaker 1: Ask you about that, because I said at the time,
Speaker 1: real time that I don't like that he went to
Speaker 1: whether she's represented herself as black or not. I don't
Speaker 1: think he should have gone there. I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I hope he doesn't do it again. But the separate
Speaker 1: issue of how it's going to play politically, You and
Speaker 1: plenty of other smart people have said it's a disaster politically.
Speaker 1: You hear other arguments that no, politically, overall, it's going
Speaker 1: to help him, including with some people of color, because
Speaker 1: it shows a strength, that shows that willingness to walk
Speaker 1: into you know that the liberal lion's den as he
Speaker 1: has a reputation for doing, you know, taking on all
Speaker 1: of these major network liberal inquisitors, and that it plays
Speaker 1: into that brand of his for strength, and I think
Speaker 1: this election could be decided simply on strength versus weakness.
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I thought when I heard he
Speaker 3: was going to go to the Black Journalist conference, I
Speaker 3: applauded that decision. I thought that was a great decision.
Speaker 3: But when he turned it into an immediate attack, a
Speaker 3: racial attack on her, that's when he blew it.
Speaker 2: And I listen, I saw the interview.
Speaker 3: I saw the first question from the ABC News reporter
Speaker 3: that was a litany of all the things he's done,
Speaker 3: which are many and many of them are very bad.
Speaker 3: And rather than handling that in a much more effective way,
Speaker 3: he decided to go straight to the race card, I mean.
Speaker 3: And so that's the trouble with Trump. He has every
Speaker 3: there is every reason why he should not win the selection,
Speaker 3: but he could.
Speaker 2: He could very well find a way not to win.
Speaker 1: So the way I saw that first question is it
Speaker 1: wasn't a question at all. It was an attack, and
Speaker 1: I think that some of the elements of the attack misrepresented.
Speaker 1: You know, the premise was misrepresented. But I saw it
Speaker 1: as an outright attack on him, which is where I
Speaker 1: think politically, I could see him gaining from it. Again,
Speaker 1: I wish he had not gone to you know, when
Speaker 1: did she become black? I wish he hadn't done any
Speaker 1: of that. But in terms of how he handled that attack,
Speaker 1: I think that helped him. And I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: the comments about when did she become black? I'm talking
Speaker 1: about kept as cool. He sat there and he took it,
Speaker 1: but then he came back. He came back strong, and
Speaker 1: he came back strong in some other ways beyond the
Speaker 1: mistake of talking about when did she become black? So
Speaker 1: I just think he handled much of that well. I
Speaker 1: wish he couldn't have said the other thing. But listen,
Speaker 1: our little thing here just represents what's going on in America, right,
Speaker 1: And and so I think you see that kind of
Speaker 1: split view of that. I think your point would be,
Speaker 1: as a guy who's won a lot of races, I've
Speaker 1: won none, I think your point would be that, wait
Speaker 1: a second, there is a clear path to victory, and
Speaker 1: that path to victory is focusing.
Speaker 2: On this other stuff. Yes, yeah, And.
Speaker 3: What is that other stuff you mean of his What
Speaker 3: is Trump's path to victory? His path to victory is
Speaker 3: just acting like he wants to be president and not
Speaker 3: not not engaging in a.
Speaker 2: Race attack, racial attack on Harris.
Speaker 3: I mean then and and and believe me, there has
Speaker 3: been a lot written in the last week or so
Speaker 3: about his campaign was very upset with him.
Speaker 2: What they did. They're trying to to they're trying to move.
Speaker 3: The debate to her awful record, and he goes into
Speaker 3: that black journalist event and makes it into a racial attack.
Speaker 3: And that was not and that was not what they
Speaker 3: wanted to have happened. And so listen, I heard you
Speaker 3: and Ryan talking yesterday, and you were right talking about
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight and the fact that George H. W.
Speaker 3: Bush was double digits down, and then they basically cut
Speaker 3: Decaca's up with his the Willie Horton issue and a
Speaker 3: bunch of other the rape comment and the debate. I mean,
Speaker 3: we can go through it, but let's remember one of
Speaker 3: the reasons they were able to get into the game
Speaker 3: was because George HW. Bush did not make any mistakes
Speaker 3: from that point on, right, And there's still.
Speaker 1: Plenty of time. There's plenty of time to run a
Speaker 1: near perfect campaign. But here's my bigger point is we
Speaker 1: have to hit this hard break, Dick, and tell me
Speaker 1: before the break if my premise is wrong. I don't
Speaker 1: think there's ever been a candidate who had more out
Speaker 1: there on tape. You don't have to bend twist the context.
Speaker 1: There's never been anybody out there with as much ammo
Speaker 1: to use as Kamala Harris. I mean, all of this stuff.
Speaker 1: She is in fact a San Francisco radical. She has
Speaker 1: said all those things on tape. You're in hard to
Speaker 1: the left in San Francisco. So I don't know that
Speaker 1: any candidate has ever had as much ammo on an
Speaker 1: opponent as Trump has.
Speaker 2: On her. If you're talking policy, I totally agree.
Speaker 3: D Well, let's come back and dive into Trump is
Speaker 3: the guy who's going to move it away from that debate.
Speaker 1: And well, let's talk about that more when we come back.
Speaker 1: When we come back. Obviously they're running a basement campaign
Speaker 1: with Kamala Harris. They know the real Kamala Harris. They
Speaker 1: don't want to let her talk because she often gets
Speaker 1: hurt when she does. When we come back, we'll give
Speaker 1: you an example of that from last night when they
Speaker 1: did allow her to say a few words off script
Speaker 1: did not end well for her here on the Dan
Speaker 1: Capla Show.
Speaker 4: And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1: You want to bring us back to the issue of
Speaker 1: whether Kamala Harris is identified as Indian or not.
Speaker 2: Right, Oh, that's very good.
Speaker 4: But there's a lot of levels to this too.
Speaker 5: It goes to Dick's point about are we seeing Donald
Speaker 5: Trump's true colors shining through? And would you use the
Speaker 5: term shining for it? I think Dick would not. It's
Speaker 5: just so frustrating. I get where Dick's coming from too.
Speaker 5: And one of the reasons I supported Ron DeSantis is
Speaker 5: just because he was so much more reliable, dependable, consistent
Speaker 5: in his messaging. You could trust him. And Donald Trump's
Speaker 5: just this wild card and he is who he is.
Speaker 6: Brother.
Speaker 1: I got to tell you something right now, and there
Speaker 1: is no doubt about it on the face of the earth,
Speaker 1: and that is Ron de Santis would be a great
Speaker 1: president if he was our nominee. Now he gets smoked
Speaker 1: by Kamala Harris. I absolutely think so. And here's why, Okay,
Speaker 1: because obviously she's got the entire media apparatus, the entire
Speaker 1: media apparatus, so you know, this whole thing is geared
Speaker 1: to lies. This whole thing is geared to cover up
Speaker 1: the truth about her. And she's young and this and that,
Speaker 1: and here's why Trump beats her in the end. In
Speaker 1: my opinion, Trump has a level of intensity and loyalty
Speaker 1: and excitement among his and passion among his supporters that
Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis would never have. And that's not a criticisms
Speaker 1: of DeSantis. I think Dick Trump is unique in what
Speaker 1: we've seen, at least in my lifetime.
Speaker 2: But he had that in twenty twenty as well, and
Speaker 2: he lost.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's COVID, everybody keeps I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: COVID was such an enormous deal. And admittedly, I mean
Speaker 1: he didn't do the greatest job with COVID, but it
Speaker 1: was such an enormous deal without COVID.
Speaker 2: Dick Trump wins in a landslide. I'm not sure he
Speaker 2: what a dad.
Speaker 3: You had a lot of voters, a lot of people
Speaker 3: in those swing states who voted for him in twenty
Speaker 3: sixteen who did not in twenty twenty, and it was
Speaker 3: because they didn't like him.
Speaker 2: And let me go to the gem lines. But here's
Speaker 2: the point.
Speaker 1: Even with COVID, and even with him getting COVID and
Speaker 1: therefore having a bad first debate, he's still almost won.
Speaker 1: It was a small little handful of votes against a
Speaker 1: Joe Biden who hold the count of allegedly being some
Speaker 1: kind of moderate. Here you've got Kamala Harris, who undeniably
Speaker 1: is a San Francisco radical. Brian and Arvada here on
Speaker 1: the Dan Kapli Show with Dan and Dick Wadhams.
Speaker 2: Welcome.
Speaker 7: Well, the reason in twenty twenty that Trump lost is
Speaker 7: we all know. Put it this way, the old folks
Speaker 7: homes guys. They voted twenty four percent of the old
Speaker 7: folks actually voted in twenty sixteen, all of a sudden
Speaker 7: it went up to ninety six percent. Now you know
Speaker 7: what the difference in that is. And we're talking to
Speaker 7: Alzheimer's victims and everything. So Dick wadhams he's living in
Speaker 7: a la la land of Oh Trump's got We're done
Speaker 7: with the sensitivity.
Speaker 2: We don't care.
Speaker 7: And who's she going to pick for a running mate?
Speaker 7: Shaking a pict Shapiro? Oh sure she is, Remember no
Speaker 7: half based h dunes from the river to the sea.
Speaker 7: How is she going to do that?
Speaker 1: Especially in Brian, Brian, can I say this for the record,
Speaker 1: I have never in my life hoped more that you
Speaker 1: are correct.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Brian.
Speaker 1: I hope you are so correct that she does not
Speaker 1: pick Shapiro, because I think she will, and I think
Speaker 1: it'll be a smart pick because right now Trump's on
Speaker 1: track to win Pennsylvania and if Dems lose Pennsylvania, they lose.
Speaker 3: And Dan I would agree with the caller that she
Speaker 3: will have a problem to her left with the Palestinian ground,
Speaker 3: and that is the danger she has.
Speaker 1: Well, fine, but it goes it goes back to my
Speaker 1: John Travolta theory of this election, right, and Ryan, why
Speaker 1: don't we have that music. You have every other bit
Speaker 1: of music out there. Have you ever heard this song? Dick,
Speaker 1: staying alive? Stay okay, you gotta stay alive to have
Speaker 1: a chance to win. So you're right, she's going to
Speaker 1: have these problems on her left with Shapiro, but she's
Speaker 1: at least she'll be alive to deal with those problems
Speaker 1: if she loses Pennsylvania. She's got nothing right.
Speaker 3: Totally agree with you. Yeah, No, Shapiro is the best
Speaker 3: and frankly only choice ever.
Speaker 2: So I hope she does not pick Shapiro, but unfortunately
Speaker 2: she will. Lenn In Denver, You're on with Dana. Dick.
Speaker 8: Hello, okay, number one, I have some housekeeping to do
Speaker 8: with gain Dan. First of all, a me, I promised
Speaker 8: I would. I'm good for my word. I said if
Speaker 8: I was wrong about Biden getting out, I'd let you know.
Speaker 3: So I was.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: You said you'd send me a thousand dollars check.
Speaker 8: Oh no, I think it was a dinner somewhere, like
Speaker 8: steak somewhere, but anyway, with a bunch of you, but anyway,
Speaker 8: So I'm going to do that. But also, Dick, okay,
Speaker 8: oh gosh, where do I start?
Speaker 5: Number one?
Speaker 8: Dick I want you to do a mail Kulpa. Just
Speaker 8: start out with because you kept saying Trump wasn't going
Speaker 8: to be the nominee. I just think people are tired
Speaker 8: of Trump. Well, you know what, I have never heard you.
Speaker 8: Maybe I've missed that call of you getting on and
Speaker 8: saying you were wrong about that. Maybe you did and
Speaker 8: I missed it, but I couldn't hear it.
Speaker 2: Don't recall that I ever said that.
Speaker 8: Oh oh absolutely, I can play.
Speaker 7: The podcast, please do?
Speaker 2: Would you go get it now and play it for me? Please?
Speaker 2: Please do.
Speaker 3: I'll wait for you. I'll wait for you. Go ahead,
Speaker 3: please listen. You got all the time in the world.
Speaker 3: Go go cut, Go get the podcast and bring and
Speaker 3: go get the podcast and play.
Speaker 6: It for us.
Speaker 8: You know what, Ryan can.
Speaker 2: Ryan? Did I ever do that?
Speaker 7: Did do you want?
Speaker 9: Yes?
Speaker 8: You did, and and I played it.
Speaker 3: Well, if you're gonna come on and make an accusation
Speaker 3: like that, I would think you'd be better prepared.
Speaker 8: You know what.
Speaker 6: You can be a rude and I'm general you damn right, I'm.
Speaker 2: Rude to you.
Speaker 3: Yes, please get me, but go ahead, please go get
Speaker 3: the please get please go get the podcast and play
Speaker 3: it for me.
Speaker 2: I'm waiting for you to do it, Donna. I miss here.
Speaker 8: Ryan can get it, because.
Speaker 2: Roy can get it.
Speaker 3: So Ryan's fault, Mike Ilite, Oh, I see you're gonna
Speaker 3: play this?
Speaker 8: Is that how you're gonna play it?
Speaker 6: Pick?
Speaker 8: Is that how you're gonna play? This is gonna be
Speaker 8: a man?
Speaker 2: You're the one who picked this fight. I'm just responding, please,
Speaker 2: But what else do you have to say?
Speaker 8: I'm asking why you didn't own up to that, because.
Speaker 2: I didn't say it. As far as I recall.
Speaker 8: I do promise you know what I'm God is my
Speaker 8: witness and I'm a Christian. You said it also, Dick,
Speaker 8: find it and.
Speaker 6: Call you back.
Speaker 2: May I ask you a question?
Speaker 8: Can I finish talking? Or you just gonna both.
Speaker 2: Talk over me? I didn't know I was talking over you.
Speaker 8: Gentleman, Dick. Are you gonna be a brave gentleman and
Speaker 8: let me talk? Are you going to be a gentleman
Speaker 8: and let me talk? Are you going to just try
Speaker 8: to get out of it by talking over me?
Speaker 2: Lynn? Nobody's talking over you?
Speaker 8: Okay, good, okay, okay, Dick. I think that no matter
Speaker 8: what Trump did, and this was just one more thing
Speaker 8: for you, you can't stand him and you know what
Speaker 8: you are. You are totally yesterday politically, and.
Speaker 2: Here we go, Here we go, here we go, yes,
Speaker 2: here we go.
Speaker 7: You finished.
Speaker 8: You couldn't do what Trump did. And in ten decade
Speaker 8: you bought John Soun, you bout John Zone elected.
Speaker 7: Time ago.
Speaker 1: Who has one more and Dick who in Colorado has
Speaker 1: won more than Dick Wadhams.
Speaker 8: You know what I'm talking I'm talking about It was
Speaker 8: a long time ago. Yes he did, but he is
Speaker 8: very yesterday now and.
Speaker 3: I don't care if it never has Berow, let's let's
Speaker 3: talk about that.
Speaker 2: The start is the start is Lynda started.
Speaker 3: He said, you would never have been You've never done anything.
Speaker 2: So it's getting a little person.
Speaker 8: But yes, it is a manly man.
Speaker 3: Do you bet you don't get that? Go get that podcast,
Speaker 3: Go get that podcast whatever link.
Speaker 8: And you know what you're all being there. I feel
Speaker 8: like you're playing this music and.
Speaker 9: Playing the music podcast Ryan's playing the music. Then can
Speaker 9: we all agree on something? Can we all agree on
Speaker 9: some just ended on a Rodney King moment.
Speaker 1: If if President Trump focuses on the radicalism of Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris and keeps the camp paying focused on policy, he
Speaker 1: will win.
Speaker 2: Can we agree on that day back in a flash
Speaker 2: on the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 4: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1: Now, what little kid has not jumped up and down
Speaker 1: on the bed, you know, just kicking his legs out
Speaker 1: and his arms out and to this song.
Speaker 2: Have any of us, any of us? But you have
Speaker 2: never done that?
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Dick, you have missed out, my friend,
Speaker 1: one of the great joys in life, almost as much
Speaker 1: fun as this last night. And think about it. They
Speaker 1: have not allowed and I don't know who the cabal is.
Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. The cabal deposed a democratically
Speaker 1: elected Democrat nominee, installed the candidate they want, and at
Speaker 1: this point appears to be running that campaign very well,
Speaker 1: including the apparent VP pick of Josh Shapiro. Let's hope
Speaker 1: those reports are wrong. But one of the smart things
Speaker 1: that Cabala is doing is they're not letting Kamala Harris talk.
Speaker 1: And last night they let her talk for how long
Speaker 1: was that wasn't long? And didn't go well.
Speaker 10: This is just an extraordinary testament to the importance of
Speaker 10: having the president who understands the power of diplomacy and
Speaker 10: understands the strength that rests in understanding the significance of
Speaker 10: diplomacy and strengthening alliances. This is an incredible day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and listen, I don't want to focus my analysis
Speaker 1: of this campaign on Kamala Harris's saying stuff that doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense, because that's not how the campaign is going
Speaker 1: to be one. I mean, the campaign is going to
Speaker 1: be one on her radicalism or provable radicalism compared to
Speaker 1: Trump's strength and accomplishments. But it is worth noting. It
Speaker 1: is worth noting because because I think it's going to
Speaker 1: matter to a certain percentage of voters, and it's it's
Speaker 1: going to matter to her.
Speaker 2: Ability to govern.
Speaker 1: She's a smart person, I think, intellectually, and she can
Speaker 1: stand up and say some things that sound good at times.
Speaker 1: She's no dummy, but but she there are a lot
Speaker 1: of moments like that, and she she says a lot
Speaker 1: of things that just don't make any sense.
Speaker 3: No, and the way she lures her voice and tries
Speaker 3: to come across this very profound and serious and yeah,
Speaker 3: it makes us sound even more ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dick Wadhams in studio with us. Let's go back
Speaker 1: to the phone lines as you mentioned they're in Fuego.
Speaker 1: With so much going on, Jerry in beautiful Colorado springs
Speaker 1: here on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 6: Welcome, y, Welcome Dan. First of all, let me say
Speaker 6: that I definitely agree with you, Ol Harley when you
Speaker 6: talk about the policy of the devastating policy of the
Speaker 6: Paul left here in Colorado. I used to vote Democrat
Speaker 6: for many years, several decades about that, but no more. Anyway,
Speaker 6: what do I want to talk to you about? With
Speaker 6: something we just us here a couple of months ago,
Speaker 6: and we disagree about it, and it has to do
Speaker 6: with Ukraine and Russia. I would like to stay just
Speaker 6: a few facts from there that of course.
Speaker 1: May I ask you a favorite, Jerry, because we're on
Speaker 1: this different topic today, there's so much happening on the
Speaker 1: political front with Kamala Harrison, Donald Trump. I'm sure we're
Speaker 1: going to be deep diving Ukraine again soon. But I
Speaker 1: know you're deeply committed to this, and I know you
Speaker 1: probably have a lot of facts and figures and this
Speaker 1: is going to take a while. Can we do it
Speaker 1: on a Ukraine day?
Speaker 6: Yeah? When will that be?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: The next time there's big news out of there, Pard
Speaker 1: the next time there's big news. But can we do this, Jerry,
Speaker 1: without going through the whole back and forth on Ukraine.
Speaker 1: Do you want to just tell people what your conclusion
Speaker 1: is and what it is about Ukraine?
Speaker 2: You want them to know.
Speaker 6: It's sad because I am. I've retired from the reserve
Speaker 6: after twenty three years unlisted, and the feeling that gives me,
Speaker 6: I'm not happy. It hapn't at all about our country.
Speaker 6: People warned of this. I was going to give you
Speaker 6: the facts about who bigs intelligence, smart people about warning
Speaker 6: about what's going to happen. When this happened, we pushed it,
Speaker 6: and I think we pushed it because of General Eisenhower
Speaker 6: when you left the presidency warned of the industrial military complex.
Speaker 6: I think it has to do with money. We pushed
Speaker 6: this war. We wanted to push it. If we want
Speaker 6: to push Nail East, this war wouldn't be going on. Basically,
Speaker 6: Can I give you lots of fact back that up?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And Jerry, why don't we connect the next time and
Speaker 1: there will be big news out of Ukraine sometime soon.
Speaker 1: That's just the nature of it. So thank you Jerry
Speaker 1: for understanding. There's just so much going on now on
Speaker 1: the political front, including some stuff we need to cover
Speaker 1: here in Colorado because obviously, uh, you know, there's there's
Speaker 1: great turmoil within the Colorado Republican Party. It's reached the
Speaker 1: point where Congressoman Bolbert has come out and strongly criticized
Speaker 1: GOP chair Dave Williams, and I think at that point
Speaker 1: everybody can see, wait a second, this isn't just some
Speaker 1: establishment versus grassroots kind of thing. There is a core,
Speaker 1: fundamental problem with Dave Willilliams and Lauren Bolbert's heart's harsh,
Speaker 1: but I think actuate criticism of his confirms that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was very significant because remember she was
Speaker 3: one of the Republicans that the state party endorsed in
Speaker 3: the primaries, and then she endorsed him in his primary,
Speaker 3: and of course he went down by two to one margin,
Speaker 3: thirty more than thirty points against the they're in the
Speaker 3: fifth Congressional district. But it's not just Lauren Bobert Dan.
Speaker 3: There are other people like Todd Watkins, the vice chairman
Speaker 3: of the El Paso County Republican Party, who is a
Speaker 3: strong supporter of Dave Williams when he got elected a
Speaker 3: year ago, and now he's leading the charge against him
Speaker 3: with trying to depose him, and there are many others
Speaker 3: who are involved in that campaign as well. So he's
Speaker 3: still got a few hardcores around him and he'll do
Speaker 3: everything to hold on to this little ounce of power he.
Speaker 2: Thinks he has. But we'll see what happens, how does
Speaker 2: it end, and when does it end.
Speaker 3: I think there's a hearing before a judge on Tuesday,
Speaker 3: before the judge who put the restraining order on the
Speaker 3: group that wants to have the meeting, and that will
Speaker 3: be lifted. I think it will be lifted next week.
Speaker 3: They'll have the meeting in a week or two after that.
Speaker 3: He will be removed, but he won't leave. He will
Speaker 3: refuse to leave. In fact, he'll just declare the meeting
Speaker 3: that removed him as illegal and no and void and
Speaker 3: they'll just keep so. Ultimately will probably happen dan Is.
Speaker 3: The Republican National Committee will have to come in and
Speaker 3: they will have to settle. If he's removed and he
Speaker 3: refuses to leave, they will have to make the decision
Speaker 3: on who is the state chairman of the Colorado Republican Party.
Speaker 3: That's what happened in Michigan a year ago when they
Speaker 3: elected Dave Williams type in Michigan that they had to
Speaker 3: vote out, and they elected a former congressman to be
Speaker 3: state chairman, and the Republican National Committee recognized in the
Speaker 3: former congressman. So I would anticipate that's how it's going
Speaker 3: to play out.
Speaker 1: And I think clearly Congressman Bobert's decision to come out
Speaker 1: and strongly criticize Dave Williams was the breakpoint, the tipping point.
Speaker 2: Why do you think she did that? Well, I think,
Speaker 2: you know, I.
Speaker 3: Certainly haven't talked to her about it, but I think
Speaker 3: congress I'm going to give her the benefit of the
Speaker 3: doubt obviously that she could see that this is tearing
Speaker 3: apart through Republican Party the way he's conducted himself. And Frankly, Dan,
Speaker 3: the car Utta Republican Party is a shell right now.
Speaker 3: I mean the Caretto's son had a dramatically important story
Speaker 3: today that there is absolutely nothing going on in terms
Speaker 3: of get out the vote in the car Utter Republican Party.
Speaker 3: The victory program that existed for decades, and that is
Speaker 3: one of the fundamental duties of the state chairman and
Speaker 3: the state party to identify and get out through Republican vote,
Speaker 3: and nothing is happening on that front. And so he
Speaker 3: does have a lot of time to try to expunge
Speaker 3: anybody who disagrees with him. He has a lot of
Speaker 3: time to assassinate the character of his predecessors, Christy Burton Brown.
Speaker 3: He has time to endorse Republicans in primaries, which had
Speaker 3: never been done before in the one hundred year history
Speaker 3: of the Colorado Republican State Central Committee.
Speaker 2: I could go on and on.
Speaker 3: He's got plenty of time to destroy and to undermine,
Speaker 3: but he has no he has no time to do
Speaker 3: the fundamental role of the colretdor Republican Party, which is
Speaker 3: to get the Republican vote out. And that's and so
Speaker 3: Republicans will suffer this election because of that. I want
Speaker 3: to play some sound now, which which in and of.
Speaker 1: Itself tells you why Harris has no choice but to
Speaker 1: pick Josh Shapiro as her VP. Josh Shapiro, of course,
Speaker 1: governor of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 10: There's no question I'm in favor of banning fracking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so she has to pick Josh Shapiro. Right, doesn't
Speaker 1: have any chance to win Pennsylvania. Now, can Trump still
Speaker 1: win Pennsylvania with Shapiro as the VP candidate.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, Trump said something at that the Black
Speaker 3: Journalist's Conference when they brought up a JD. Vance and
Speaker 3: I was, frankly, I was disappointed when he really put
Speaker 3: distance between himself and JD. Evans of that thing. But
Speaker 3: he says something that was actually right, which is, voters
Speaker 3: don't vote on the vice presidential nominee and and and frankly,
Speaker 3: Trump is ultimately right about that, even though I think
Speaker 3: I think Shapiro would be a very solid choice when
Speaker 3: it really gets down to it, presidential elections are about
Speaker 3: the nominees and not about about the.
Speaker 2: B VP selections.
Speaker 3: So Shapiro, I think voters might say, we love you Shapiro,
Speaker 3: but we're not going to vote for We're not going
Speaker 3: to vote.
Speaker 2: For her, especially here when she is young and healthy.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like right, right, like an older
Speaker 1: candidate who may not make it through the term. But
Speaker 1: I also believe Dick And of course there's no precedent
Speaker 1: for this, so it's just based on my own analysis,
Speaker 1: but I think there's there's this going to be the
Speaker 1: special lasting bond between Pennsylvania and Trump could be because
Speaker 1: of the fact the assassination attempt occurred there and how
Speaker 1: well he handled it, Yes, and the great leadership he
Speaker 1: offered in the fact it occurred on their soil. I
Speaker 1: think that's going to be a lasting bond there right
Speaker 1: on through election day. Eight five for five A two
Speaker 1: five five text d A N five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 1: When we come back, going to play you a sound
Speaker 1: bite that I think, in and of itself will cost
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris two swing states here on the Dan Kepler Show.
Speaker 4: And now back to the Dan Kapler Show podcast.
Speaker 11: And Yeah, I am radical.
Speaker 12: I do believe that we need to get radical about
Speaker 12: what we are doing and take it seriously right, And yeah,
Speaker 12: I am radical. I do believe that we need to
Speaker 12: get radical about what we are doing.
Speaker 2: We've been to the border.
Speaker 10: You haven't been to the border, and I haven't been
Speaker 10: to Europe.
Speaker 1: Eight five five for zero five A two five five
Speaker 1: the number. Just talking about how to beat Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: I believe, even though she's on a high right now,
Speaker 1: I believe there's a path here to Donald Trump beating
Speaker 1: her very convincingly and helping down ticket as well. Dick
Speaker 1: Wadhamson Studio Grateful for that because he's actually won a
Speaker 1: lot of big races. Eight five five four zero five
Speaker 1: A two five to five the number text d A
Speaker 1: N five seven seven three nine before good lines, dick anything.
Speaker 1: You just have to get off your chest and it's
Speaker 1: tremendous insight. Up Brian and Arvetta, you're on the dan Kapitlis.
Speaker 2: She'll welcome.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'll keep it calm. Please don't hang up on me.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 11: Not to do. Wadhams always wants to tell us what
Speaker 11: not to do. I'm not a big fan of Dave Williams.
Speaker 11: Who does he has suggest we we vote for or
Speaker 11: run the GOP party. I never hear that, never hear.
Speaker 2: Who would you like to see run the party?
Speaker 6: Run?
Speaker 2: I don't know who's gonna run. I have no idea.
Speaker 3: I do think Eli Bremmer who's running? Who will run
Speaker 3: if if Dave.
Speaker 2: Williams is deposed been a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: I think Eli's running to replace him, and I think
Speaker 3: Eli Bremer would be an outstanding chairman.
Speaker 2: So I can throw that name out.
Speaker 11: Oh Casper, huh, Casper back him?
Speaker 2: No, Eli Bremmer, he's from cars.
Speaker 11: I'm asking about Casper. Back him because he ran and lost.
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not talking about Casper. I'm talking about
Speaker 3: Eli Bremmer, right.
Speaker 1: But Brian's asking if you would support Casper Casper who
Speaker 1: stopped them?
Speaker 2: No? I support Eli Bremmer, Franklin. So there you have it.
Speaker 11: Well, at least we have you on the record of
Speaker 11: what we should do and not what we should know.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I you know, buddy, I've heard you
Speaker 3: say that before. I got to tell you. You take a
Speaker 3: look at every campaign I've ever run, and you tell
Speaker 3: me that we didn't have a clear agenda, that we
Speaker 3: ran a very strong contrast campaign with our opponents and
Speaker 3: that's why we won. So I know how to win
Speaker 3: a campaign. How many campaigns have you run? How many
Speaker 3: campaigns have you run?
Speaker 11: One in fifteen years?
Speaker 6: Dick?
Speaker 11: What happened?
Speaker 6: Thirty? God?
Speaker 2: There we go again. How many campaigns have you run?
Speaker 11: But I'm not out there to have you.
Speaker 3: How many campaigns would you please answer the question?
Speaker 2: How many campaigns have you run?
Speaker 6: Bro?
Speaker 2: Huh? Zero?
Speaker 7: Zero?
Speaker 2: But you're an expert? Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3: I'm sure, glad, I'm sure, glad. I sure wish you
Speaker 3: would have been around to tell me what I was
Speaker 3: doing wrong when we won those campaigns.
Speaker 11: Oh but and that was a long time ago. We're
Speaker 11: in a different environment.
Speaker 2: Yes, you're damn right.
Speaker 3: We are in a totally different environment because Colorado has
Speaker 3: swung far to the left, because these new people who
Speaker 3: moved to Colorado. How many you know, you're a very
Speaker 3: knowledgeable and important and smart guy. Tell me how many
Speaker 3: people have moved to Colorado in the last twelve years?
Speaker 2: Tell me you're smart, you know these things? How many?
Speaker 2: Ernest how many?
Speaker 11: I don't follow that enough?
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, you're the expert.
Speaker 3: You tell me that I am irrelevant, Then I don't
Speaker 3: know how to win campaigns. I asked you a very fundamental,
Speaker 3: simple question. How many people have moved to Colorado since
Speaker 3: twenty eleven?
Speaker 2: Tell me and then tell me after you tell me
Speaker 2: how many?
Speaker 3: Tell me how that's affected the Colorado electorate. Tell you're
Speaker 3: a smart guy, you tell go ahead, tell me.
Speaker 11: You just want to attack me?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, because what did you do when you got
Speaker 3: on the air right now?
Speaker 2: You just you attacked me. As soon as you got
Speaker 2: on the air, you attacked me. And yet when I
Speaker 2: come back.
Speaker 3: And refute everything you said, and I asked you questions.
Speaker 2: Then you you you you.
Speaker 3: Just curl up in your a fetal position and won't
Speaker 3: respond to my questions.
Speaker 2: So let me just just let me walk it through
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 3: So you do know the facts because you Oh, here
Speaker 3: we go, nos, no solutions.
Speaker 6: Really, I know you haven't offered us in thirty years.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, So now what? Oh my god, I'm
Speaker 6: listening to you.
Speaker 3: But Brian, I don't think Brian, Brian, eight hundred thousand
Speaker 3: people moved to Colorado in the last thirteen years. They
Speaker 3: totally changed the Colorado electorate that's now younger and more liberal.
Speaker 2: We went from a third to third to third to.
Speaker 3: Now we have almost fifty percent unaffiliated voters, twenty seven
Speaker 3: percent Democratic, twenty three percent Republican. And believe me, those
Speaker 3: eight hundred thousand people who moved to Colorado can't stand
Speaker 3: Donald Trump. Now you might not want to hear that,
Speaker 3: but they don't. So tell me, do you want to
Speaker 3: refute anything I just said?
Speaker 11: Moderate on every position then and lose.
Speaker 1: Oh here we go, Brian, Let me ask him a
Speaker 1: positive question. Let me ask you a positive question. Who
Speaker 1: do you think we should be listening to in Colorado?
Speaker 1: I mean, Dick's actually won a lot of big races
Speaker 1: you say that doesn't matter because it was a long
Speaker 1: time ago. Well, nobody's won since he did. So who
Speaker 1: do you think we should be listening to right now
Speaker 1: on how to win?
Speaker 11: The whole thing is? Dan, we have to call a
Speaker 11: less our.
Speaker 2: Base right but time? Who do you think we should
Speaker 2: be listening to the middle? Dan?
Speaker 11: We lose? Who do you think run people in the middle?
Speaker 2: Brian?
Speaker 11: Who do we keep doing the same thing?
Speaker 1: Who do you think we should be listening to? Is
Speaker 1: there anybody you have in mind? Anybody you see out
Speaker 1: there is just kind of a great current modern political
Speaker 1: strategist to has better ideas and we should be listening
Speaker 1: to them because I'll get them up.
Speaker 6: Podcast.
Speaker 11: Ran a great campaign and he had something to say.
Speaker 3: Okay, but he didn't win. That's your standard, guys.
Speaker 1: I'm surely enjoying the what.
Speaker 2: I've got about seconds.
Speaker 3: You know what you're talking about? Like I told you before.
Speaker 3: More of this from the Dan Capler Ship