Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the fire Escape Cast. It
is episode ninety six. That's no Venta, he says. If
you're in France, I just got back from France recently.
I'm still on French time. Whatever it is. It's always
French time. Think that's Greenwich. I think that's Greenwich. Meantime,
I'm back. That's not your last episode.
Speaker 2: Every time Mike says anything of value, we can just
go ooh la la because he's always going to France
and he's so Frene.
Speaker 1: So that's Mary kesh Hi. And also here is always
with Dan Riker.
Speaker 3: It's still my favorite thing to look at Mike Maharty's
Instagram stories, and every time before I press this picture,
it's like, all right, wine or cats. That's like my
favorite Instagram game show. And then sometimes it's bonus points
and you're in France tweeting about wine and that's what
I got the last week.
Speaker 1: The end of my pro bio says mostly wine and cats. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,
I just got back. It was a nice visit. I
was there for work, but I went. I went to
a few spots I really like. I went. There was
a little Christmas pop up market, over in the sixth also,
Notre Dame I think, just did its grand reopening after the.
Speaker 2: Already that just went went away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I forgot. They put you know, they put
their best people on it. I assume they do. I
don't know any I don't have any insight info, but
we were in a.
Speaker 2: High priority for them. That's a huge straw.
Speaker 1: It's their national one of their symbols and ship. But
I was the tents were all set up around it,
so I saw that, but I was gone before that.
I had maybe the most nightmarish nightmarishly close missing my
flight back from France. Really yeah, So I had a
twelve fifty five PM flight back to Newark. So I
woke up at what was it like eight fifty five
four hours. I woke up four hours ahead of the flight.
I was like, oh, I kind of overshot this. I
can sleep for a little longer, and I snoozed it.
And when I woke up, I just happened to wake
up later realize I just stopped my alarm. I didn't
snooze it. So I woke back up at like ninth
forty five and the flight was boarding at twelve oh five. However,
there's been like construction on the highways between Charles Degaal
and Paris. So it occurred to me. Then I was like,
oh god right. It took like an hour forty five
in the uber to get here, so I was like,
all right, I'm still fine. So you know, I was.
I had packed up, I was ready to go, and
we passed. We had like two accidents on the highway
on the way there. So I got to the airport
at and the uber went to the wrong he went
to the arrivals level instead of departures. So I was like, no, no, no,
it's fine, I can I can go down. I'll walk
take the elevator up. He just kept driving, and he
spoke English like I taught. I spoke English with him
when he first picked me up.
Speaker 2: Maybe he only knew the words that he gave you
when he picked you up. Maybe he doesn't speak English.
He only knows like hi, thanks for taking the super
And then any other time you're talking to him, he's like,
I have no idea what this means.
Speaker 1: That's entirely possible. But I got to the airport at
eleven thirty, and you know, I hadn't gone through customs yet,
and I had a bag to check. I had several
bottles of liquid that I was checking, kind of liquid
Mike Wine, Chartruse, cremdick Asis, and one of them was
a gift for Amanda. So I really wanted to make
sure I got that. I didn't like dump anything or
not dump it, but like get rid of it. So
I got to United's bag check and they had shut
down the computers. I've never gotten so late that they like.
So I told I told two. There's these two women
at the desk and I told them. I was like,
oh my god, it's nightmare getting here. Is there any
way I could check this bag and not have to
get a new flight or you know, dump all this.
One's like no, I can't do it. The others like
I just missed it. I was like, there's a gift
for my wife in there. She's like, we'll make an exception.
So well, I was telling the truth like I meant it, so.
Speaker 2: The old disappointed life routine.
Speaker 1: And then I get to security. I get through customs
smoothly enough, but I get to security and they're one
of the tray conveyor belts at TSA was shut down
because they had a bomb dog sniffing. I think it
was like a routine sniff of the conveyor belt, so
we're all, like everybody at the United terminal was going
through one like tray conveyor belt, so it's taken forever.
I made my flight just as it was like my
I literally hit the gate when my group was called.
But that was kind of perfect. But then, of course,
you know, on the way back, I was really worried
my bag wouldn't make it because they had to like
reopen the computers and it said like status pending in
the app for the bag tracker, but it all wants
smoothly from there. Nice. Yeah, I was like, I've never
pushed it that I've either missed a flight. I've only
ever missed like two flights in my life stenuating circumstances.
But that was the closest I've gotten to to not
making it back on time.
Speaker 3: I'd like connecting ones that, like, you know, if the
first one was delayed and you have to just like
spread through a terminal and you barely make it.
Speaker 4: But I don't think I've ever straight up missed the flight.
Speaker 2: I have had the closest call of my life last
year going to Spain, I think we should have missed
the flight. We just we just cut it way too close.
Everything was late, there was traffic. It was our fault
too for like leaving as late as we did and
assuming it would be fine. And they also said the
computers are shut down. You're not gonna make it, so
I wouldn't check your bag if we could, and me
and my coworker Alyssa just kind of looked at them
and were like, please, just just try and we are
fast runners and we will we will make this flight.
And by the grace of God, she was like, okay,
and she checked our bags.
Speaker 1: Oh it's Spanish, it's okay.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, and we sprinted to the gate. And of course,
in just the rush of everything, I left a full
water bottle in my book bag, so when I went
through security, I got stopped because of my water bottle.
And they kind of each security protocol is different with
how much of a dick they want to be to you.
But in this one they were like, do you want
to throw the bottle away or do you want to
go back through security? And I was like walking away
as I said, throw it away. So yes, of course
it's called it. But that's before you go through security.
If they catch you, if you go through security, then
they have a couple options. One is you go all
the way back through security with your water bottle or
dump or like I'm throwing the whole bottle away, and
if you have like a reusable bottle, that's pretty gutting. Yeah,
But in this very particular case, I had like snagged
a bottle of water on probably one of the journeys
I was on. So it was just a plastic bottle
of water. And so for them to even ask me
that question, I was like, I'm literally a ghost. You
are speaking to my dust as I walk away, throw
away that water bottle. I don't have time for this ship.
And we ran the entire way to the gate with
like all of our bags, and it was way faster.
I were way further along than yours, Mike. They were
doing last call. We could hear them on the speaker
going like last call for this flight.
Speaker 1: Running and then you hit and then you run into
the person taking the tickets, and then all the tickets scatter,
and then you get a plane to New York City
in South Florida, and then two robbers come and they're
seeking revenge from when you fucked with them in Chicago. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a different time in my life.
Speaker 1: Times after that, but we don't talk about those two five.
Speaker 3: The third time it happened to was someone else. Yeah,
and also Prince Stewart was there. Yeah, oh god he was. Wow,
I forgot about that. Oh here's a question. I actually
I do not know why you can't. Why can't you
bring liquids on a plane bomb star through through security?
Speaker 2: Probably the easiest thing is the answer is nine to eleven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's probably just like certain liquords that you could
probably do bomb stuff with or something, and so they're
just like that, don't you can have anything that you
get after the gate?
Speaker 1: But that's it? Is that why there's a limit on
the ounces of like hygiene stuff? Okay, yeah, they probably
determined that something like that. I don't know if it
was an alcohol thing or whatever, but.
Speaker 2: No, oh no, it's easy to get alcohol in I've
never love it when you have alcohol.
Speaker 1: I have brought so.
Speaker 3: Much alcohol onto planes and it's never been a problem.
I don't needymore.
Speaker 1: But wait, how did you get it through security?
Speaker 3: You just bring the fucking like I used to like
fly with like four or five airplane bottles of like
the mini bottles. Yeah, so like none of them. They
don't even like take them out. And I've seen them
see it before when like pulling my switch out, but
they asked if you.
Speaker 1: Have liquid, right, and they just don't care if it's
a certain if it's below the three ounces or as
long as.
Speaker 2: It's below the ounce amount. And it used to supposed
to be needed to be in a plastic baggie and
they don't care about that anymore either, so long as
it's below the required amount. Because I travel with all
sorts of like makeup liquid and no one bats an eye.
But if it's a twelve ounce bottle of water, you
know they're tackling me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I also, like I have been in trouble for just
wearing my giant bomb sweater, which is so stupid.
Speaker 3: That's something every single time I'm wearing like a giant
bomb hoodie, I always take it off or reverse it
or put it in my bag or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like we should just.
Speaker 1: You should get a sweatshirt that just says small bomb okay,
under through under three and a half fluid half ounces.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yes, they're gonna think that's hilarious.
Speaker 1: And things went really well on the Under three and
a half Fluid ounces Bomb Couch at the Game Awards.
Speaker 4: That's going to go gret It rolls off, brevity.
Speaker 1: Rolls off the tongue. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anything to stick it to TSA. I would. I would
give up a lot of branding just to just to
wipe the smug looks on their faces. As they all
have different rules and requirements, it really like irritates me
how some of them will be like, yeah, you need
to take off your shoes and it's like, well, not
in any other airport. You can't talk to me like
I'm an idiot because you've changed your rules. I don't
know your airport or you.
Speaker 1: I finally used it, was able to use Global entry.
Oh it's great. I've had it for a bit. I
had it when we came back from France, but I
didn't want to leave Amanda in line by herself, so
I did not use it. It's like scary how easy
it is. You smile, you look at a camera and
then they oh, now that I looked into a lens,
it said wait, there's like three two one. It's like, yes,
we know you, we have you. Everyone and then you
tell the guy your name on the way out. So's yeah, yes,
so fast. It is scary how much they can recognize
your face just by scanning it. Minority Report was cool, Yeah, yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Was cool for some parts. Yeah. I like the self
driving cars that you could take a nap, and.
Speaker 1: We got those now too, right.
Speaker 3: I still don't like they say that they're just like
driving all around San Francisco now and like I've never
seen one, granted that's them to San Francisco, is even
New York.
Speaker 2: In San Francisco I saw, if I would say, for
every four regular cars, I saw only.
Speaker 1: Just imagining Dan running into intersections and look at cars
had on to see if they have drivers.
Speaker 3: Like hey, wait, so can you It's just like an
uber thing, like you use an app and you just
take a nap in the back.
Speaker 4: That sounds pretty cool.
Speaker 2: I think I think a lot of people have anxiety
about riding them because they do every once in a while,
they do strange little things, and it's always based on
human stuff they can't predict, right, so like a car
cutting them off or a pedestrian like walking right in
front of them that kind of like absolutely can trip
up AI still they're just not they're not prepared for
human randomization, like they need to predict everything that I'm
gonna do.
Speaker 1: It's I've never I haven't poured over the statistics in
a while, but I imagine it's probably safer than half
the drivers you can get.
Speaker 3: That's the thing is, like it is kind of surprising
that it would be on the road if there are
still hiccups, But also people are idiots and bad drivers,
so it's like, I don't know, is it's actually that
much less safe.
Speaker 1: Half the drivers they justify your work are psychos. Yeah,
and they're just cutting left and right.
Speaker 2: I have a statistical less likely chance of killing someone
or getting into an accident than a regular person, and
that's probably how they can get away with it. But again,
like you just never know what some crazy person's gonna do,
and that's probably when the AI is like I did
not predict eight people linking arms for the trees. Not ready. No,
I got all this data back here, and I am
not prepared for this.
Speaker 1: Woman all now. But yeah, but then on the bright side,
once you do run over the protesters, they're like the
the the hippie tree people you were just talking about.
Now it knows to avoid them next time. So you
kind of did teaching them, Okay.
Speaker 2: Active learning aiah, it's really smart. Yeah, every time it
kills a pedestrian, it's always like I've updated my system.
Speaker 3: It's the remorse that the cars feel that you know
they're not going to make that mistake again.
Speaker 1: Now I know that humans can wear yellow jackets, and
I won't hit them next time. I see one machine learning?
Speaker 2: Why was I programmed to feel pain? It's at his funeral.
Speaker 1: It's it's sunglasses on. It's it's in love with another
self driving car, and they it just runs straight into
it when it's trying to hump it.
Speaker 3: Somberly drops off a bouquet of flowers under the casket
with its tire hand.
Speaker 2: He suspecial, especialcial.
Speaker 1: What's been up with you guys since I two episodes ago?
Speaker 3: Oh God went home the holidays? Was my dad talks
about you a lot?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You text me about him talking about me a lot? Yeah?
Speaker 3: He texted me about you. He texted me, did you
see he got that? Like Marie? I got shrimp and wine.
He's like, I'm like, mahardy here look at me with
his mind he bought that. Yeah, and then he's like,
I'm being fancy like Maharty.
Speaker 1: Uh oh oh shrimp mac and cheese with white wine
and yeah.
Speaker 3: And he texted me how fancy he was being, And
He's like, do you actually enjoy your time with Maharty?
Speaker 1: He's one of my best friends. I've known him for
like fourteen years. You enjoy your time with me? Of
course Dan does. No, he doesn't, No, he does No.
Me and him always get along really well on like
the live streams We've done a ba He you.
Speaker 3: Can talk sports, which he will instantly respect someone if
you can talk sports.
Speaker 1: The last time I hung out with him, we got
like what it was with me you Amanda Annimal We
got yeah. And then when did karaoke and he had
a blast. I thought. He still just.
Speaker 3: Teaches about and talks about you all the time, and
it's usually and I'm like, I'm a heardy.
Speaker 1: I think I'm flattered. I'm in his head. Did I
tell I said this on the BombCast? But did I
tell you what happened with this house? No? But now
I'm no.
Speaker 3: This is on the pall scale, even by Paul standards
of weird decisions. This is mount Rushmore of.
Speaker 4: His entire life. And trust me, that's a crazy mount Rushmore.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm ready.
Speaker 3: I get home and this guy we're talking for like
four hours and then he's like, I got some big
news and I was like what. And he's like, he
never has big news because he just kind of does
the same thing all the time.
Speaker 2: Like what, doesn't do anything?
Speaker 3: No, he doesn't leave the house, he doesn't talk to people,
he doesn't socialize. So it's like, what is your big news?
And he goes, I sold the house And I was
like what. Like he's living in this place for like
twenty five years. It looks exactly this today as it
looked twenty five years ago, same everything, and it's like
this is a wild thing for him to do without
telling anyone, and like the house was sold. First of all,
the reason he sold the house was because for the
last several years he's hated that when he smokes outside
on the front on the front deck, sometimes his neighbors
come home and they stop and chat with him, and
he hates that. He says, I need more solitude. I
need more solitude. And I said, okay, smoke on the
back deck and he gets mad when I bring it
up because he's like, it's a weird door. Dan quit
bringing up the back theor like it's a whole weird
I have to put a wooden thing down there to
lock it it's hold. And I was like, well, to
pay someone to change your door. Don't sell the house
because you don't want to talk to people while you're smoking.
But he sold the house without telling anyone, and I
guess he sold it. And then like, so he sold
it because he didn't want to fix any toilets. He
didn't want to like he just want to be like
I just want to sell it. I don't want to
do anything. And so we sold it for like super
low value. So we got a lot of interest right away.
This one couple toured it a couple of times, they
got the inspection, they got the offer, approved paperwork, contracts
written up, and I realized, like, oh wait, movie is
going to be paying in the ass. And he asked
his realtor, Hey, can I'm going to back out of this?
And she's like you can't, no, No, they already did
the inspection, signed the contracts, yeah, but can he just
like ask him? And they asked the new buyers. They're like, no,
what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Like, wh are you talking to the bank we paid
the inspector.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So anyway, I'm just like trying to purse together,
like is this a good idea? Like this is just
weird how we didn't tell anyone. He didn't tell his daughters,
his sisters, anyone. And I was like, so, what's the plan,
because like when do you have to be out He's like, oh,
like a December ninth, So.
Speaker 2: Tim up, yes, yeah, yes.
Speaker 3: And he told me this on Thanksgiving. I was like wait,
and like ten days you have to be out here?
Like where are you moving? He goes, well, that's the
thing like when I decided to do this, I hadn't
thought about this stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, where am I going to live next?
Speaker 3: So he doesn't know what this is a motherfucker that
if he's ever on a flight for like three weeks
ahead of time, he's checking the weather, he's checking the
flight status. He's just like everything, a single thing has
been planned out like crazy, and he's sent home fucking
house without a planet.
Speaker 1: On house Mary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he is moving in to a extended stay smoking.
Speaker 2: You have any friend that's too woke?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's me. That's what we all know. So okay,
I'm sorry, I I So he's moving on hotel. So
he's moving.
Speaker 3: Into an extended stay smoking hotel. Okay, And so came
on to this is the guy that will not buy
anything if he doesn't have a cubon.
Speaker 4: He's like super duper cheap.
Speaker 3: And he also doesn't know what anything costs since like
nineteen ninety two. Like when we went to Boston last year,
he was like, find a hotel near Fenway that's like
maximum sixty dollars a night. Dad, That's just not that's
not how costs anymore. So I don't think he knows
how much it's going to cost to Like, as of this.
Speaker 2: Recording, where's this stuff going.
Speaker 4: In a storage locker? So he's putting stuff in a
storage locker?
Speaker 2: What about it is furniture.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's the other thing.
Speaker 3: So he's bringing all that he has like a twenty
five year old fridge that doesn't work, so he has
to shoved towels and to keep air from coming out,
it's got a hose snaking around the back and dripping
into a bucket.
Speaker 1: He has to drain a couple of times a day.
Speaker 3: And it just said like, oh, bright side is you'll
at least get to start over with a new fridge.
And he's like, oh no, I'm bringing that what like
the most difficult to move big in.
Speaker 1: The world, and it's broken and decades old.
Speaker 2: That's a part of the sale of the house.
Speaker 3: Though I don't know if he told him he's taking
the fucking broken fridge.
Speaker 2: I mean, is there I have a question.
Speaker 1: Is there more than a zero percent chance he might
just live in this extended stay hotel the rest of
his life?
Speaker 3: I mean that is the concern with him is that,
you know, he doesn't like doing things. So my thought
is like, oh god, he's going to get a stuff
in there. He's going to get comfortable. I asked him
several times. He did say He's like, oh no, no, I
got I've been moving to a place once it's perfect,
but I am going to definitely move into a place.
I'm like, what's perfect. He's like, I'm thinking of like
a house. It's like a cabin in the woods one
hundred thousand dollars or less. And I was like, okay,
I I don't know. I don't know what you're gonna
find for under one hundred thousand dollars, and I don't
know if a cabin in the woods is a good idea.
So it's been a lot of us talking to him
and just be like, ah, have you thought about this?
I'd be like, we're trying to help him. Because the
house is sold. You can't talk about of it now,
so you can't talk.
Speaker 2: Him out of it. It's too late legally binding. No,
he's not even there anymore. He's living in a motel,
a smokable motel, which you just know is probably a
big dinger, and he's gonna probably just jam it up
in there and then die in it.
Speaker 3: If not, he's sixty one, that'd be I think a
lot of time in a smoking hotel, even with his life.
Speaker 1: Scot Paul, you have bigger fish to fry than my
highbrow hobby's annoying you, Yes.
Speaker 3: Just for send more time thinking about you and wine,
and he thought about where he's going to move.
Speaker 1: Next time someone's bothering you, just pretend you're on the
phone like the rest of us. Yeah, say I'm sorry,
have headphones and I don't know I have headphones. Put
like a wear like a VR mask while you're smoking.
Next you go on your back and by by a
door that needs a wooden thing to lock. Are you
talking about when you put a little like a ship rod,
it's just a rod to the sliding door. Yeah, just
so can't when you need to go out. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then I bring that up and I'm like, it's
more complicated than that. You don't understand. And I was like, well,
just get you can get a whole new door. That's
not that's not an option.
Speaker 1: That's not an option. Okay.
Speaker 2: The least complicated option is selling all of your house
and packing up all of your ship and moving into
a fucking motel.
Speaker 1: He's a signelay. The easiest way's.
Speaker 2: That says, don't talk to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't. Yeah, it's just it's it's always
a surprise. Actually, it's usually never a surprise. It's usually
exactly what you've seen the last eight hundred times you've
seen him. But this one is like, oh wait, he
actually made a big change and this has not been
thought through it.
Speaker 2: All, and like we had a huge change. It's a
life change.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We were like being his daughter and his sister were
bringing it up a Thanksgiving. He's like, it's gonna be fine,
everything's fine. It's gonna be totally fine. All right, So
like checking with them, like any movement on stuff. He
was like, I'll figure it out.
Speaker 1: What if he secretly won the lottery and he's not
telling anybody, and like he ends up in a.
Speaker 2: I think that's a Paul record move right there.
Speaker 1: Really big like wooden lodge in the woods.
Speaker 3: No, he wouldn't like No, he would still buy exactly
the same stuff he buys and live exactly how he lived.
Speaker 1: I know he spend the money on anything, give it
to you you No, No, definitely not that. Oh I know.
Speaker 2: Actually, okay, is it pussy?
Speaker 4: Oh that's a hold to do?
Speaker 1: Sean cut all this. I didn't say anything. I didn't either.
I just said I knew what it was.
Speaker 2: I think I think I know him the best on anybody.
Speaker 3: So yeah, we're all hoping the best. We're all Paul there,
hopefully find something he's happy with. We'll check in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, best of luck, Paul. Yeah, enjoy your wine, white wine,
mac and cheese. Yes, yes, sounds terrible. It does sound
pretty gross with you there.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna beat that. That's the crazy fucking ship
I've ever heard, Like little hotel has a hope, like,
does it have a kitchen? You know, does it microwave?
Speaker 1: He hasn't looked into it yet. Extended stays usually have
a kitchen at Wait, he's not at the hotel yet.
Speaker 3: No, he hasn't even looked at Like, he doesn't even
know if there are any around where he lives.
Speaker 1: He's just like, I'll figure it out. Okay, gotcha's interesting.
Speaker 2: Shows up on your front porch. You're gonna have to
turn off the light so he thinks you're not home.
Speaker 1: You just know where where headphones. Pretend you're on the phone.
He won't he won't be able to bother you. Yeah,
that's right. Teach him.
Speaker 2: Teach him the most difficult lesson a son can teach.
Speaker 3: A father a masterful perry by going on my back deck.
You can't get back there.
Speaker 2: Put a pole in your back deck sliding door.
Speaker 1: Yeah he knows, he doesn't. It's a forest field. All
it takes is a wooden rod to stop him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like a weird vampire.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't need Like if he was in prison, you
wouldn't need an actual jail cell. You just use a
sliding door with a wooden rod on his side. No less, Yes,
that he could open. No, it's a big thing. It's
more complicated than you think. He'd like in prison himself
in his house for the last twenty five years. Yeah,
it's fun stuff. Did he ever comment on what I
named my Hulu profile?
Speaker 3: He occasionally does, but I think it makes him mad
and he doesn't like bring it up. Like he pulled
up Hulu while I was at his place and it
was like right there and he's just like, I feel
like it's just a lot of silence, just shaking his head.
Speaker 1: That's been I've kept that current one for like eight
months now. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Mary, it's we we all
share Hulu Premium or whatever it's called.
Speaker 2: Oh that's nice. Isn't that a crime?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: We all pay no individual accounts. We just share each
other's names with each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sean, cut this too, continue to storry. I changed
my I think we talked about this much earlier in
the episode count, but I changed the name every once
a while just to mess with them, because he told
me at one He told Dan at one point that
it annoys him because he watches it before bed so often.
The last thing he sees before he turns on who
loot to fall asleep or whatever is what my profile
is called right now, it's just Paul loves l u
V E l u v s Katie Perry and I'll
just a routine I used to routinely change it.
Speaker 3: Well, that one is true in some aspects? Does he
in some aspects?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh that's not funny anymore because it's Yeah,
there was a dog coming off the subway yesterday. Speaking
of boobies and people, we all like, there was a
dog coming off the subway yesterday, and the owner was like, no, Zenya. No,
the dog's name was Zenya. This is a very weird
what's going on in my head now? Yeah, this dog
is named after my sexual awakening.
Speaker 3: I did min Max's charity stream a few weeks ago,
and they Hansen told me the day of He's like, hey,
we're doing something called a hear me Out cake where
it's like we have a cake and everyone has to
come with like a bunch of different like ideas of
like hear me out. Here's an unconventional thing I find attractive.
Speaker 1: That was a theme as you had to say yeah.
Speaker 3: So it was like so when I got there, everything
else was like everyone that was on that show, was
saying stuff like Ben had like it was like a
tron bike and like one of them was like a
mouse cursor that was like curvy or something, and so
everyone just had a bunch of stuff, And I don't
think I have a lot of unconventional So, like my
person was like, here's Bombka Johnson next to like a
weird tron bike that Hansen wants to fuck.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's she's unconventional. But I couldn't think,
like I don't have any like fiction people with her
thighs that is unconventionally attractive.
Speaker 3: To kill people like that's normally not what you find
a dragon's hot out.
Speaker 1: If that's about I'm the weirdest man in the world.
Speaker 2: You are, But I think, like hear me, out cakes
are very specifically about like it should be something that
everybody else in the room is like, that's insane, you
couldn't possibly be attracted to. Probably really should be like Clippy,
the you know, Windows icon. It should be some obscure
thing that is like barely cognizant. It should it should
freak people out. That's the purpose of it. If it's
if it's regular hot attractive human. You fucked it up.
Speaker 3: I tried to think of like, No, it's just like
hot ladies are put I just want.
Speaker 2: To put a bo like nacho uh cheese on there
because I think, like on your darkest night, you might.
Speaker 3: I'm not horny, Like there's difference between and horny. Hunger
and horny are very different.
Speaker 1: Not.
Speaker 3: Your cheese has never entered the periphery of my mind
during a sexual moment.
Speaker 1: Uh. Some people find what if?
Speaker 2: But what if? But what if she was hot.
Speaker 1: The nacho If a hot lady had nacho cheese.
Speaker 2: On her, No, if the nacho cheese had tits.
Speaker 1: No, just floating boobs, no cheesy bobs. No, it's just
completely different parts of my brain trying to Are you
you're really trying to tell us that cheesy boobs are hot?
Do you you want to tell.
Speaker 2: Us something I'm just saying I think might hear me
out cake is cheesy boobs.
Speaker 1: It's not like a dig. But I don't want to
be accused of king shaming your love for cheesy.
Speaker 4: Under whatever you're into cheesy boobs.
Speaker 2: I mean you have to think beyond tradition. I'm trying
to like push you in ways because that's again the
point of this exercise is that perhaps it is a
new design of like there's lady compartments and pieces to
this being, but they are also often made of cheese
and nachos or or something like that.
Speaker 1: This is not appealing to me at.
Speaker 2: Some kind of bean burrito, some.
Speaker 1: Y cheese in a beef burrito.
Speaker 2: Some kind of caseita case crito.
Speaker 3: I mean, if Monica Blue in a tortilla and like
she'd be hot, but like it'd be od because it's
Monica Balucci, not because of the tortilla.
Speaker 1: I think it'll be hot regardless. Okay, wait, hold on
a second. Let Medsy you're I'm certain something. Can I
change my video field, choose avatar in let me try that.
I can't add something? What is it? Bullshit? I was
gonna just replace my video with a Famka Johansen photo.
And then that was the extent of the joke. I
told you, I'm sure, Yeah, jealous, yeah, fucking killing it man.
But no, I don't want to fuck cheese.
Speaker 2: Well that is fine, you don't have to. But the
point of the exercise is to expand your mind outside
of traditional hot people of the gender or people that
you would usually be attracted to. It's to like push yourself,
uh way beyond.
Speaker 3: But isn't the idea that, like, oh, here are someones.
There's some examples of that I have found attracted throughout
my life, and like I was like trying to think
of some and I like, I have no shame in
this again, like people be into whatever you want to,
but like I just I couldn't think of like unconventional there.
Speaker 2: You know, I just don't think that you've ever pushed yourself.
This doesn't actually have to be something that you've ever
thought of before. This could be like for the first
time in your life. You'd be like, uh, you know
the girl Grimlin in Grimlin's.
Speaker 1: Two a little Yeah, she's supposed to be.
Speaker 2: That to hear Me out Cake.
Speaker 1: She's supposed to be Yeah, absolutely not.
Speaker 2: Hear me out cake, though.
Speaker 1: Not for me.
Speaker 2: That's well what if what if we covered cheese?
Speaker 1: No, that's not There's definitely been some movies throughout there's
been There's been many movies throughout my life that I
like catch myself thinking like why am I Why am
I horny? Now? Like Power Rangers the Ives anything to
do with the use secret of these turtles secret of
Power Rangers. Oh secrets, but then yes, my power Power
Rangers was the ives A.
Speaker 2: Turtle would definitely be like a hear me out cake situation,
because anytime you're getting into any type of animal cartoons,
you're starting to push the limitations.
Speaker 4: Here pass on animals and cartoons.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the point of this exercise again. And
I can also see like a like a judgment free zone,
and I agree with that stuff going on here.
Speaker 1: I could see, here's what for you, confiance. Okay, you
just covered in for from head to toe.
Speaker 4: No, he already lost me.
Speaker 1: It's not a free no, but I'll get you there
one day. No, I don't. That's a weird thing to
We're not gonna have an episode left by the time
eats editing. Yeah, nothing else new for me, I don't think.
Speaker 2: Uh huh what did I do?
Speaker 1: Uh? Oh?
Speaker 2: I went to a really cool themed bar.
Speaker 1: Well, I saw that.
Speaker 2: I like a good themed experience. And this bar is
called Raven's Manner, and it's known for having kind of
obscure morbid curiosities. Right, so yeah, snake in a jar, skeletons,
but of like animals.
Speaker 1: That are real cursor stagger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Actually, that's that's a great example.
Speaker 1: These are also all things I find unconventionally attracted.
Speaker 2: Okay, they're all on your freak cake.
Speaker 1: Daggers, yep.
Speaker 2: Anyway, for Christmas, they do Crampus, which is a nightmare
holiday special, and they decorate the whole bar. It's already
a scary bar, that's its point, right, and it has
like themed rooms and horror rooms that you have to
like escape out of or whatever. That's its like thing.
But now they've decorated it, and it's fucking crazy. They
had Christmas trees that were made of baby doll heads
that were dismembered and weird.
Speaker 1: Looking, but the whole in the shape of a Christmas tree.
Speaker 2: A regular traditional Christmas tree with tinsel, but all of
the ornaments.
Speaker 1: Are dull ornaments.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, some of them. They had elves that were
being tortured in different ways on the walls, elves like
elf on a shelf, okay, and but the elves were
like like they were like chained and like being you know,
dismembered and stuff.
Speaker 1: They had also hear me out, Yeah, we really have
not moved on at all.
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm starting to recognize what is Yeah, Frosty the Snowman,
but he's got giant things and blood and a huge
dick and.
Speaker 1: It's a carrot down there too. Didn't believe me when
I told her there's a thing on Netflix movie called
Hot Frosty.
Speaker 2: Hot Frosty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he comes to life and he's just like like
a babe.
Speaker 4: Is it like a romantic comedy?
Speaker 1: It's what's her name? From all the nineties movies?
Speaker 2: Fetch Yeah, the girl who tries to not.
Speaker 1: The nineties movies Gretchen from is it Gretchen.
Speaker 2: Wieners, Gretchen Wieners from Being Girls? The girl tries to
make Yeah, she's in it. And then so she puts
her scarf on a snowman because he's got like a
six pack, and she's like, wish you were real. And
then he actually comes to life and bangs.
Speaker 3: Are that's a whole movie. Yeah, wow, what did they
learn or whatever?
Speaker 2: Uh, you can bank snow and he turned into a
he turned into a real guy.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Anytime Snowman come up, it reminds me
of these two.
Speaker 2: Hot Frosty would be a good.
Speaker 1: Uh dude, right yeah, yeah, like snow form, Oh snow
form dude. Okay, got it. My uh, these two idiots
that used to live in my neighborhood in high school.
They were They spent like two hours making a snowman
in the middle of their street, and the plan was
to film them just running into it over with their car,
and they drove into it and it just stopped the
car dead in its tracks and like the car wrapped
around this. They're completely fine. It just destroyed their car
and it was the I saw the footage of it,
and knowing that they're they were okay, made it the
funniest fucking video I've ever seen in my life because
they just fucking plowed into it and it it didn't move.
It was the most like well constructed snowman I've ever
seen in my life.
Speaker 4: Jesus.
Speaker 1: Those guys were me and my brother the Jackass era.
Speaker 2: It was television where we were all like gramming our
grocery carts into like bushes.
Speaker 1: And Dan was running into trash cans and hoboken a
couple of years ago. Yeah, it was no literally during Jackayes.
Speaker 3: I absolutely I still have videos on my hard drive
of like us getting in trash cans and rolling down
hills we gotten shopping carts behind target and went way
too past and hit the curves and flew out like
we We did every.
Speaker 4: Single thing on the show that they said don't try
to do at home.
Speaker 1: It was great.
Speaker 3: It's a great time. Jackass was and it is fantastic.
I love Jackass.
Speaker 2: They knew what they were doing anyway. So this bar
is filled with really dark, decrepit stuff. There were stockings
on the ceiling and there's like dismembered hands in them.
Speaker 1: Do you have to reachase? Are you encouraged to in
the ceiling?
Speaker 2: You can't get in there?
Speaker 1: A skin stockings skin stockings, Yeah, stockings made out of skin.
Speaker 2: They had lamps that had face skin like had eyeholes.
Shade was a face, Yeah it is. It's a very
Portland thing, honestly. And anyway, all the drinks were funky
little concoctions where they were like this is Grinch juice
and it's green and it obviously used dry eyes. So
there was like smoke stuff capp you know. It was
a a good theme experience where they put in a
lot of energy to make this place look crazy. I
don't think it would be for the fate of Heart
because it's so dark and gruesome. I think it's actually
probably stressful to someone who doesn't like horror stuff, but
for someone who really likes Halloween and enjoys Christmas festivities,
it is the perfect combination of Halloween Christmas.
Speaker 1: I've ever had what's the name of it?
Speaker 4: I'm curious to.
Speaker 2: Ravens bar Ven Raven Ravens manner, sorry, Raven's manner. They
only do they only do this Christmas thing from December
to January, like it's a December situation. But when they do,
like the trees with fucked up stuff. Yeah, and they
have crampis. He's like an animatronic guy and he's like,
eat children.
Speaker 1: What's great? Is it? Is it still like a what's
the word I'm looking for? Is it still like similar
morbid curiosity theme the rest of the year, just without Christmas?
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, all year round weird shit and during Christmas
they're like everything is Christmasy, but it's also still fucked up.
Speaker 3: They burned pentagrams into the Hamburger buns.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, this place is cool.
Speaker 4: I like this.
Speaker 2: Your drinks can come with tarot cards or like they're
served on a Ouiji board like.
Speaker 1: Theyre looks like they live in Portland. Awesome. I just like,
I've never seen more four more partland looking people in
my life.
Speaker 2: They really do have that vibe to them for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, they've got like nome to plumes here, Mum
Mordred Elizabeth Raven, Lady Maryann Raven aka Lady Red. All
right cool.
Speaker 2: I was thoroughly impressed because usually when you do stuff
like this like it feel it was a little hamstrung.
These people are committed, a very committed space. It had,
uh it even had like a casket and it had
a sensor bar, so when you go past it, there's
a knock from the inside, like somebody's in there. It's
just cute, like they put a lot of energy into
like making you a little scared, uh and stressed out,
but also just enjoy the Christmas festivities.
Speaker 1: I love to be stressed out at bars.
Speaker 2: I yeah, it's during the holiday. There's a special time
where you get to be scared. In Christmas.
Speaker 3: I can stress the bars for like go to order
drink and it just seems like it takes twenty minutes
for the bartender to see you. So that would be
my theme bar if I wanted to be stressed was
just the bartender never looks at you.
Speaker 2: Your horror bar is that they don't know that you're there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's exactly. I'm holding it, and.
Speaker 2: Then you look at your hand and look in the
mirror and there's no there.
Speaker 1: My back. I don't even know this. Either during college
or immediately after. My friend and I were at a
very crowded bar in New York actually, and he ended
up we were basically waiting for the bartender for so
long that he ended up kind of like waving to
try to flag her down, and she did not appreciate that.
She said, never wave at bartenders, so he took it
upon himself to try to get her. She left, he
went to the other side, and then instead of waving,
he just kept trying to like make eye contact with her,
really wide eyed, like trying to get in her line
of sight. And I think she she actually ended up
finding it funny and as opposed to being further pissed.
So it worked out. Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's actually a really great ending, because I would
have thought that she was just been even more pissed
to been a bad story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it worked out. That was the same bar.
If I told you guys this story where this is
like the middle of the day and we've popped in.
My my friend at the time was doing like beer
sales from breweries direct to different bars, and he had
to like make rounds. So he's like, yeah, I want
to come with me. So I went to get a
burger at this one place on the south end of
Medison Square Park that's no longer there. It used to
be this like nautical theme bar. So I was sitting
there eating a burger, and the landlord of the like
bar and a few apartments above it came down while
my friend was talking to the bartender and the manager,
and she struck up a conversation with me. I don't
know how else to describe her besides just saying she
was a character, like she had she had been in
this building long enough to be able to, like, you know,
she had been renting out this bar for a long time.
And she asked us what our names were, and we said,
and I should also mention she seemed like she had
been drinking since like ten am. She asked us what
our names were were, like Mike and Nick. She's like
Spike and Vic. What kind of crazy names to those? Yeah,
we'd call each other Vic and Spike a tag team. Yeah,
this all happened at the same bar over the years.
I miss it, but but yeah, anyway.
Speaker 3: I've have I told you guys my stink bomb college
thing that I used to do when bars were too busy.
Speaker 1: You'd let off stink bombs and crowded bars.
Speaker 3: So basically there's like there's this one bar in Lawrence
called Brothers that my friends like to go to, and
like it was good in that it was like dollar
fifty you call it, so it's I can get a
whiskey coke for dollar fifty on like a Friday night.
But it was like a big kind of like Broie
like bar with like a dance floor and stuff. And
like I always hated that. I never wanted to, like
hear popular music. I never wanted to dance or anything.
So my friends would just find people to dance with
and then go to the dance floor and I would
just grumble and sit at the bar and stuff. But
like they would never serve me. It was just always
so damn busy and they would always serve like girls
first and everything. So I'd just be standing there like
a dope forever, trying to get a beer. And so
I would typically have stink bombs on me, like the
real bad ones in like glass that have like sulfurous
like it will make an entire house smell like just
the most potent fart ever for like a day and
a half.
Speaker 4: And I would if.
Speaker 3: I was particularly salty that night or I couldn't get
a drink, I would just crunch it under my foot
and watch like mass amounts of people leave the bar
just because like this smell is so fucking bad here,
and now I get to get my.
Speaker 2: Drinks and you were just enjoying your fart filled bar.
Speaker 1: That is, I mean, that's better than not having a
drink at a bar. I don't know, it's just the
most I don't even I don't. I'm too tired to
tell you how pissed off that makes me that he
did that. I know it's proferit.
Speaker 3: There were plenty just like, oh boy, I would have
kicked my own ass time back there.
Speaker 1: I don't have the energy to get to lay into
you right now, I will say.
Speaker 2: When I first moved to San Francisco, I lived on
a busier street that was right outside of a club,
and within my first two weeks of moving in the
club would let out at two in the morning, and
these people who are dancing in the club would put
music on in their cars and dance in the street.
And they did it every like weekend, you know, Friday
and Saturday night that when I was there, Yeah, the
one right off of Sutter and I I was so
frustrated because they would party until four in the morning.
That dan I went to a store and bought stink
bombs and the next Saturday, You're a monster. But I
opened up my window and through through stink bombs at
them while they were doing their little uh dancing at
three in the morning, and I did get them to
stop doing it. I think, well, I don't know if it.
Speaker 1: Was me.
Speaker 2: Doing it such a baby about it. I like opened
I turned off all the lights, I opened up my window,
and I kind of like you know, tried to throw
them as close as I could to the group, and
then like hid and went back to bed. But they
stopped doing it after a couple of weeks, and so
I figured there was maybe it was working. But I
also heard that someone ended up getting stabbed at that club,
so oh, it could have been.
Speaker 1: Drink.
Speaker 3: He couldn't get a drink Wow, they still sell them.
I was thinking like, oh, I wonder if they just
don't sell those anymore. But they sell them on Amazon
and they look exactly like cartoon guy stinky on the
on the cover.
Speaker 1: Yeahals, you have to break step.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, wow, they still just do this, don't they. Wait,
wet birds spray. Oh, I've never done firt spray, but yeah,
these are vials. Probably the spray is not fun.
Speaker 4: I should buy some of these vials.
Speaker 1: They Oh god, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, you don't know, sent them to your dad because
it could have saved him from selling his fucking house
if he just made it really stinky.
Speaker 4: You working on that without the stink bomb.
Speaker 1: The neighbors coming up to say hi, and he just
immediately starts dropping him on the deck and stomping on them. Ye,
come back.
Speaker 3: What are dude bombs? It's from the dude wipes people.
What toilet Oh, dude dude bombs, toilet stink eliminator.
Speaker 1: What are dude wipes? Oh?
Speaker 3: I guess I don't know dude wipes because they sponsored
like a WrestleMania match.
Speaker 1: I assume it's just like.
Speaker 3: Like sanitary wipes or when you're shitting, but like marketing
it's like the Doctor Pepper ten of wipes for your butt.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know. I talk about you keep using
ten is the one that keep for women? You keep
comparing things to other things that I then have further
questions about.
Speaker 3: Doctor Pepper ten is the one with ten manly calories.
It's not for women like those diet sodas. Yes, gotcha.
It's a clever, clever marketing.
Speaker 4: Wow, there's lots of different man.
Speaker 3: The stink bomb industry is blown up since I last
used one. They have Trump branded tink bombs.
Speaker 2: You should invest in stink bombs.
Speaker 4: Stink bomb stock is going high.
Speaker 1: Yeah. T n K an actual stock probably, Oh.
Speaker 3: My, oh god, it's stonks. That's what it is. Stonks.
Speaker 1: Ticker is s t n K like a meme stock.
Speaker 4: It sounds like it's probably some thing.
Speaker 2: I think stinks is funnier stinks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Stink's a good word for what it is.
Speaker 2: S t i n X stinks.
Speaker 4: We can't have five? Can you on your ticker?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: The hashtag is s right, do you know what I'm
talking about?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Like you use the money symbol.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you do? Like dollar sign? Oh, you can use
the dollar sign as the first dollar sign tank, So
you're saying Tink would be the okay tanks with an X.
But then when the dollar sign look like stinks okay
Tinks stock? Can we just come up with a crazy
Are we gonna be millionaires from the episode?
Speaker 4: No, there's nothing has the Tinks sticker?
Speaker 1: That's it. That's the ons good make that for stink
bomb company. Why is kind of stock called Tinks on
the stock trade?
Speaker 2: Why are they trading stocks at all?
Speaker 1: They're all in on the stink bomb market? All right?
Listen up, everybody, can I is a fraud if I
like encourage people to go buy a stock and probably
let's amplify it.
Speaker 2: If you pump and dump it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's an pumping Wait, Tinks is at Tinks
is a TikTok. This is an influencer. There's a woman
named Tinks. Uh so we'd have to fight her for it.
But I don't think she's on the stock exchange.
Speaker 1: What does she do?
Speaker 4: What's she influence?
Speaker 3: She does the It's Me Tinks podcast on Stitcher radio.
Tinker Bell pop culture and Relationships, Oh Okay. In April
twenty twenty two, a series of controversial tweets posted by
tinks resurface on a thread and the subredded R slash
tinks dark.
Speaker 1: What was controversial?
Speaker 3: They were fat bo big, misogynistic, targeting stars such as
Kim Kardashian. Okay, come did collaborate with Tabasco Sauce in
twenty twenty three, though, so she came back, Oh ship
Yeah yeah, Tinks Bowl in collaboration was Chipotle nice wow
resurging Yeah, though, No.
Speaker 2: You're going straight to dumping. You're not pumping.
Speaker 1: I'm prem prety all dump no pump anticipatory dump.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that means it's fun to say
all all dump no pump, Yeah, all dump.
Speaker 1: I sent dan a uh. Instagram is really honed in
on my tastes. It's served me ads for these like
T shirts that it's like old school Japanese wood cut styles,
but it's a black cat sitting like a human on
a toilet smoking a cigarette, and that it says born
to ship, forced to wipe.
Speaker 2: The baize.
Speaker 1: Instagram DM history is weird. It's a lot of office
wine memes and like he's sending him Mad Tower in Paris,
clear mercy love. It from one masterpiece to Stephanie here
another masterpiece. We're here, go to We're gonna bring the
Eiffel Tower town. I gotta work on my macho man
nightmare anymore. I gotta any more coke, give the drugs. Wait,
let's give it a few more seconds, because I don't
want that to be the last thing we said right before,
and we might have an ad goes up.
Speaker 2: No, I think it should just killing. Do you guys
want to talk about video games?
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it all right now that we've all
got a jpeg of and on the top in our discord,
just staring at us. Uh, what what's going on with
an Ena Jones? This game sounds good? Yeah, it's it's good.
I kind of went in with no expectations of this one.
I mean, you know, it was machine games, which I
really like those Wolfings Sign games a lot, but obviously
like an indie game is going to feel different than that.
So I was like, all right, molible's to see you know,
you know, whenever you're dealing with like a big license
like that, there could be you know, changes that aren't
I'm skeptical of license stuff, and I do feel like
this is on par with like Batman Arkham Asylum, with
like the most I've been like, oh shit, they just
nailed the feel of this ip like, you know, the
way Arkham made me feel like, oh this is like
I feel like Batman playing this game and everything that
that entails. This feels like an Indiana Jones movie. And
the stuff you're doing in it is not just you're
not just playing Wolfenstein and you've got an Indiana Jones
skin on. It is like the music's things, and the
way the cut scenes kind of flow in and out
of the action and what you're actually doing.
Speaker 4: You're not just like you're barely using guns in this game.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of like grabbing weird stuff like frying
pans and then like sneaking up sneaking out up on
Nazis and knocking them out, pushing them off cliffs, things
like that. But you're also just going through catacombs and
underneath churches and things like that with like a torch
and waving away scorpions and putting amulets and things and
slight like it's it is a lot more dishonored than
it is. Like I was thinking, like first Slash, third
person uncharted Indiana Jones game, I thought it was gonna
be very uncharted, and it is more dishonored than it
is that you're like dressing up and certainly you're dressing
up like a minor near like the Pyramids, you're dressing
up as a priest and the Vatican, So there is
that kind of like stealth aspect to it and staying
out of sight lines, a lot of sneaking up. It
is like immersive sim more than it is an uncharted
like I would say, that's pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: I uh, that's the most I've been interested in it
so far.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I do feel like there are some pacing
issues in that, Like these areas are really big and
they're extremely detailed, Like you know, if you played the
Wolf and Sign games the machine games did, like there's
so much detail in the levels, so I think they
I was talking to Grub about this, and I know
he felt similar where it's like it feels like it
felt like they want to get their money's or time
however you wone put it worth out of these huge areas.
So like the Vatican has a lot of side quests
and stuff you can do, and I was enjoying it
so much. I was like, I'm gonna do all the
side quests, and at a certain point it was like
there are a lot of just like, oh I talked
to this none and she can't find her book, and
it's like, okay, well I got to walk over here,
find her book, bring it back a little cut scene.
And so they're not all like the best side quest necessarily,
but I don't know, if you're enjoying your time and
you're not trying to rush through an area or whatever,
they're they're worth doing. You know, you get level up,
like you find these books and everything to level up,
and it's got these adventure points, and so the fats
quests are getting you these things that will help you
level up. So I mean they're not for not or anything.
It's just some of them are more exciting than others.
Speaker 1: So you go. So you start in the Vatican. You're
also in Cairo or at Giza, Viza. Where else do
you go?
Speaker 3: I am just leaving Giza now where I'm at that's
the second one. Yeah, there's like some stuff in between,
like you're on a blimp for a.
Speaker 4: Little bit as you're going down to Giza.
Speaker 3: And the opening is kind of like a Raiders of
the Last arc callback like the you know the idol
and the stone and everything. But I mean, Troy Baker
kills it as Indiana Jones here. It's crazy because like
Harrison Port is a pretty distinctive voice, and he he's
just nailed it. It's it didn't even occur to me
that someone else would have to play it. Yeah, yeah,
I mean even Harrison Ford's a live he's just like,
I don't know, you hear the recent Conan podcast, He's like,
he sounds like a gruff old man. You know, it's cool,
he's hilarious on that podcast. But no, Troy absolutely nails it.
It's super fucking good. And yeah, it's just like the
cut scenes, it really does seem like you're watching like
a classic Indiana Jones movie more so than you know,
Crystal Skull. I never saw the fifth one, the Dial
of Destiny, but like this feels like it would fit
right at home with you know, the first three.
Speaker 1: So it didn't occur to me until you said this.
Now that Machine Games went from one franchise where you're
killing Nazis to Indiana Jones where you're killing or i
mean beating Nazis.
Speaker 2: Up.
Speaker 4: No, you can killed him two. You can definitely kill him.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean that's part of why I think
this was such an interesting choice of developer for this,
and I think it was a home run. And it's like, well, okay,
you've worked in this era before. I think the bigger
risk is, like, oh, making Indiana Jones a first person
game is probably something that not a lot of people
would have expected. But it works, and I don't think
that when it does shift to third person, when you're
climbing ladders or use there's a lot of using your
whip to swing across you know, gaps and stuff like that.
It's not that jarring or anything. So I think it
does work. But yeah, the hand of hand stuff, it's
it's fine. Like I don't think it's it's not like
this incredible deep fighting system first person or whatever. But
like when most of the encounters are like I snuck
up on this dude and fucked him up with like
a lamppost, you know, it's it's fine. Like if it
comes to two blows, it's okay. It's blocking, it's parying,
it's left right, it's charge attacks things like that, Okay,
but yeah, it's a lot of sneaking around, like you
don't really have to. Like, if you're shooting a gun,
you're kind of fucking up in this game, because like
there's so much stealth in disguise stuff going on that
if you're just walking around a Nazi camp and Giza
and you shoot a guy with a pistol, it's like, Okay,
well now it's just turned into every Nazi in this
camp coming after you, so behooves you.
Speaker 1: Not to that Soul sounds way more interesting than I. Yeah,
I was thinking it would be. I don't even know
what I thought it would be. I knew they were
gonna kind of go for like more puzzle solving. I
guess Uncharted. It's the obvious comparison, but yeah, the immersive
sim aspect and like big sandboxy not that I not
that I inherently like sandbox kind of mission structure, but
there's something about you know, like hit Man, Dishonored, I
love where you can kind of explore something actually like
dense environment. M M. It's not just filled with filler,
even though it does sound like there's some filler.
Speaker 3: Well, And like the puzzles and the action and the stealth,
like all these aspects are not particularly I don't mean
this sound like an instul but they're not particularly deep
in the same way that like the Indie movies are
not like a hard challenging watch.
Speaker 1: You know. They's just fun.
Speaker 3: It's just a fun time with the movies, you know,
and this is just a fun video game. It's not
like these puzzles are not like I'm not breaking out
the notepad and drawing symbols and things like that.
Speaker 1: It's pretty breezy overall.
Speaker 2: What's the story, Like, Basically, there's.
Speaker 3: A mcguffin where it's like, oh, the Great Circle is
this thing. It's this artifact where there's several different parts
of it and it, you know, they think that you
can get great power if you get all these pieces
of the circle together. So the Nazis are trying to
get it for their nefarious Nazi purposes, and Indie is
trying to you know, beat them to it basically, So.
Speaker 2: Indy versus Nazis totally yeah, easy, yeah, and easy.
Speaker 1: It's the two best movies all over again. Yeah, yeah,
it's uh, there's no Nazis in Templa Doom if I
don't really One and three definitely did. But yeah, yeah,
she had a lot of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, three, I loved three because like, three was the
one that I was old enough to see in the
theaters when it came out. I just saw the first
couple on BHS and uh, yeah, I love three.
Speaker 2: Is that the one with the baby indie kid Indy?
Speaker 4: Three has River Phoenix at the beginning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it shows why he's afraid of snakes and stuff
like that and how he got his whip. It's like
one of the first like times I remember being like, Okay,
we didn't really need to explain why this character, you know,
was afraid of snakes or likes whips. Yeah, every care
your trade has explained in like a five minute scene.
It's like, Okay, we didn't need that, but.
Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, I'm excited to play that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm not like an obsessive indie fan or
anything like I said, I'd even see the last one.
I like Indiana Jones. I like them a lot growing
up in the first trilogy. But yeah, so I went
in not particularly like excited or pessimistic about it. I
was like, aeah, let's see how this is. And I've
been very positive on it since playing it. I'm like
twelve hours.
Speaker 1: Then.
Speaker 2: I would say some people are like already calling this
their personal goady, which I think is very I mean,
it's a huge deal to like have its skyrocket to
your list that quickly. Do you think it's at that
level or do you think it's also like end of
the year madness where it's like, hey, this is the
game that was good that I played this close to Gody,
so it's top of mind recentcy guy.
Speaker 3: I think it'll probably be like in the lower half
of my top ten.
Speaker 4: I think by the time of the year's done.
Speaker 3: But I guess we're gonna have to wait and see
you when fire Escape does its Game of the Year
for twenty What are we doing.
Speaker 1: That twenty twenty five?
Speaker 3: Oh oh right, okay, well we'll find out next October
or something that.
Speaker 2: Would you have crammed it into, hargdie.
Speaker 3: I don't think, Well, what was our final top ten?
I know that's an interesting question. I forget to pull
that up real quick. I don't remember what our top
ten was. It would not I would not have tried
to make it. Let's hell divers, asked your robot. Those
all would stay. I think I wouldn't put any above
any of those. I don't think, uh yeah, okay, I'm
looking at our top ten here hell divers after about
Prince of Persia, wild bastards like a dragon, lowerly crow country,
UFO metaphor. I mean, there's obviously the ones that I
wouldn't get. I'm in a metaphor anyway, I would maybe
put this above UFO.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I like you significant it's it's eligible
for next year's Game of the Year by our.
Speaker 2: By our definition.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Valguard, which I gotta play.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna play that.
Speaker 1: I didn't say I can't make me not going to Okay,
but I got bigger fish to fry. That looks like
a nerve game. Sick. Yeah, it is. It's probably very
It's definitely very nerdy. Mary. What have you been playing.
Speaker 2: I've been playing, uh, this new indie game called O.
Speaker 1: You been playing Andy two? You are so silly.
Speaker 2: You remember when you said you were you're an advocate
for indies earlier this year number one advocate for Indy's.
Speaker 1: Supposed by number one. Moltro was my number one, or
no it wasn't. It's number two. So I guess I
think I like INDI's more than Dan. Dan's always just
shilling for the Triple a game.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at my top ten of the year and
they're mostly indies.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Read it off Balatro, Mini shoot Adventures, Thank Goodness you're here.
You a boat, Biffy Wild Bastards are those indy games.
Speaker 1: No, no call of Duty.
Speaker 2: So Naiad is a one person team made by one person,
and it is a very calming, zen like experience where
you are playing I want to say a water nymph
or a girl that is only underwater. Essentially, your face
can come up every once in a while, but it
doesn't seem like, Yeah, the graphics are are simple, but
I think delicate and easy on the eyes. So I
would just say this is a simplified looking and sounding game,
but it appeals to the senses and the sense that
this is clearly meant to have a calming effect on
the player. You are swimming down this river and you
will come across visual elements that are puzzle, but the
game doesn't literally tell you what to do. And I'll
give you an example. You will see lily pads, and
you will see you'll swim a little further and you'll
see frogs on rocks, and you might think to yourself, oh,
when I get near them, and I make a little noise.
My nymph makes like a little sound. I can knock
the frogs off of the rocks and they follow me,
and then I will take them to the lily pads
and they will jump on the lily pads. And if
I can get all the frogs to get on the
lily pads, something happens. And so the game is very
softly encouraging you to solve these visual puzzles, but it's
also trying not to like overdo it or tell you
literally what to do. That can be frustrating in the
sense that sometimes you will be like, sometimes I feel
like you'll be like, what am I supposed to do here?
And the game isn't literally telling you what to do,
and that's frustrating. But most of the time you can
you can figure out what the game is trying to do.
I'll give you another one that's pretty obvious, which which
is like you'll see a duck and you'll keep swimming
and you'll see ducklings, and it's like, these ducklings probably
need to be with their mom, and so you're guiding
things back to their home, or you're putting them in
a certain word you know how like in Zelda, how
you would see symmetrical rocks and one rock would be
off slightly and you'd think to yourself, like, I should
put a rock there, and when you do, the little
guy would go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you find me.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's that I will find You will find things,
and you will say, oh, I think something's a little off,
and you'll fix it and then you will get rewarded.
Speaker 1: Is it so?
Speaker 3: Is it just general exploratory or is there like a
critical path, like are there fights or anything or like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good question. There's no boss battles. This
is a very relaxing game. I keep saying that, but
I mean I couldn't express that more. There's even you
can go down the waterfall path, like you can keep
going and not solve these things, which is very interesting
to me. And I think if you just literally go
down all the waterfalls and don't do any of these puzzles,
you probably burn through this game in like forty minutes.
But that's not the point. If you do the puzzles,
some of which are quite intricate, I'm sure this game
would take four or five hours. Like I got stuck
a couple times, and then I accidentally went down the waterfall,
and then I was just in a new area. So
it just doesn't punish you. If you don't want to
figure it out, you don't have to You don't have
to do anything. Really. There's also puzzles that I think
are a little too complicated because they don't again tell
you what to do, and so you'll be there'll be
like maybe these people that are mining and if you
release animals will follow you if you make a noise,
so maybe you get an animal to get close to
them and it scares them. Some of these are simple
puzzles where it's like put two and two together. Some
of them are put two and two and two together.
And some of these puzzles are like, hey, there's eight
steps for you to finish this, and I've been like
six steps through, not knowing what else to do and
being like whatever, I'm going down this waterfall. As soon
as I felt frustrated, I just left. I would like
to play through it and actually solve every puzzle, but
in the spirit of what this game is doing, if
I ever was like I don't know what this game
wants me to do, I just quit and gave up,
like you went down the river and relaxed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks like a lazy river, which I'm a
big lazy river guy.
Speaker 2: It is, it's very lazy river. I think it is
meant for you to just it is just meant for
you to relax and enjoy it. It's audibly like, it's
very comforting and calming. Your sounds are very light and easy.
All the sounds of the environment are nice. You'll hear
the frogs and the ducks and the environment. There's like
bees buzzing, and you interact with some animals as well.
There's oh it's neat. In the menu, it'll show you
all the fauna in every area that you've discovered. And
so there were animals that didn't discover in certain areas.
I'd like to replay and find them all. But again
you don't have to. You can fill your rolodex full
of all the alligators and the eel and all the
different funky animals, or you could just like, uh not
do that and and and just go down the river.
So I think it's it depends on the type of
person and gamer you are. I would say for someone
who's like, hey, I need relaxing games, that calm me
down and give me like an ease to my evening.
This is for you if you're like no, But I
do want like a challenge and I want to be
able to like min max my experience. This is not
for you. There's no mind maxing, there's no boss fight,
there's no score. This is more of an experience, I
would say, than like a traditional video game. But you
are interacting with the environment. You are solving uh, simple puzzles,
I will say. Even though I say simple, there were
a couple that stumped me that I did not solve.
So I don't think this is an easy walk about game.
But the beauty of it is that you can always
ignore the puzzles and continue on your journey. You don't
have to solve anything.
Speaker 1: It's a good looking game.
Speaker 3: It makes me think of a Does it play like
Tubin for the Nes? Look at the discord this box
art of Tubin?
Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah, yeah that is box.
Speaker 1: Art right there.
Speaker 3: Everyone look up Tubin for the Nes by tingin. Uh
that's a fun game around a tube.
Speaker 2: Yeah, got some Tubin motivations to you.
Speaker 1: Tub Like.
Speaker 2: I think it's tubin like. I think it has some
aspects of tubin.
Speaker 3: That's a really funny genre. N we gotta get tuban
like over.
Speaker 2: I think it is like meant to just relax, go
down the river, don't worry about your life. But I
will also just say like I was relaxed when I
played this. I played this casually on my couch on
my Steam deck, which is like one of my favorite
ways to play games. I felt very relaxed throughout the experience.
I wish that the puzzles were a bit more intuitive.
I could see that they weren't literally trying to tell
me what to do, but there were a couple of
times where I was like, I don't I don't fully
understand what I'm supposed to do next. And there's also
secret tunnels throughout this game, and if you aren't putting
your body next to every wall, you might miss a
secret entrance that you needed to complete a puzzle, So
that can be a little frustrating. But again, like it's
not meant to be like you can just you can
just relax your way through this game. So anyway, I
enjoyed it. I I finished it in Uh yeah, I
think it's like three to four hours. It's not It's
not like a long experience, but uh uh a delightful
way to spend an evening and I liked it nice. Also,
one guy, so cool when a games are made by one.
Speaker 1: On your PC or on my steam deck.
Speaker 2: I played it on my steam Deck, and I think
it lends itself to a steam deck, like it is
a It is a steam deck style game in my opinion.
You can sit on a couch and play this.
Speaker 4: And I love steam Deck. I think all the time
that how much i've steam Deck.
Speaker 3: And I had a moment the other night where it's like,
Okaykayle's gonna stream, so I want to put her up
on the TV. And then but I really want to
play Indie. I wonder if that can run on my
steam Deck, and I'm looking up stuff about like how
can Indie run on a steam Deck. It's like, not
really that well, I've realized, wait a minute, I can
fucking stream to my like from my forty ninety computer
in the other room, and I'm playing it looking great,
not downloading anything locally with the steam Deck, and I'm
just playing Indiana Jones on my steam Deck in the
other room, Like fuck, this is what an incredible device.
Speaker 2: This is The future is here. Yeah, good, it's really
it's really nice to experience it like that, and so
I I enjoyed this, but I also think it's probably
not for everyone. It's definitely for people who are looking
for this type of experience. I would sell it to
someone who's like, hey, I get really stressed out at
my job and I like to play a game that
doesn't require my whole brain half a brain. Sometimes I'd
be playing, sometimes I'd be watching something on Netflix, or
like listening to music. This is that type of experience
you could just I think it's extremely meditative. It even
has not haikus, but I would say very short poems
that you're meant to just listen, observe, and move on.
You don't get rewarded again. I think I got like
a couple achievements, but that's not this type of game.
One time I found a secret and it gave me
a small poem and then I was like.
Speaker 1: Is that it?
Speaker 2: And then I just left like that was it. I
was like, you got you know, the wind breathe softly,
all right, get the fuck out, and that was it.
You know, they this is not meant to uh be
more intense than you think it is, it's a very
simple concept.
Speaker 1: Nice it's being a steam deck. Dan, I heard, I
saw you're back into Vampire Survivors.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what Mary just posted? Jake's gonna be so confused.
This is in the share of Discord. It's two pictures
of bombays and the box are for tubing for the
nes and then Mary, what the puck was your prompt for?
Speaker 1: This is a hot cheese girl?
Speaker 2: I did you hear me out? So I google uh ai,
A mid searched a woman made of nacho cheese and
I it's just the discord like a woman, she's pretty
hot and human looking, but she is made of nacho cheese.
Speaker 3: I mean it looks like I would just be worried
she'd be getting some like third degree burns with the Okay,
now there's oh, folks, this is bad stuff happening in
her discord right now.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. No, I'm not horny about this.
Speaker 3: Well, but between Mike repeatedly spamming Gazina on a top photos,
you are supposed.
Speaker 2: To be confused.
Speaker 3: You're not supposed to It's one hundred percent confused, zero
percent horny.
Speaker 1: No, No, this is fucked up. I hate this. This
is really a funny photo. Mary just keeps posting AI
tortilla ladies. I hate it.
Speaker 2: They're cheese women. I'm just trying.
Speaker 1: I don't want cheese.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to find your level. Here's the thing.
I bet if there's like beautiful women, hot women stuff,
you're probably still turned on. And so my question is,
at what level of cheese are you?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: That's too much cheese?
Speaker 3: Okay, radio, Okay, listen, Okay, let's go back to the
Monica Balucci thing. If you dribbled some nacho cheese and
Monica Valucci, she would still be very hot. I think
it would have to be like you dump, like you know,
pizza the hut from space Balls. I think it's actually
that much cheese for Monica Balucci to.
Speaker 4: Not be od.
Speaker 1: This is really fun for me. This is a weird discord.
Speaker 2: This discord better not be ever be searched by the FBI.
Speaker 1: Because okay, this is this is my last one hold on.
Speaker 2: To construct.
Speaker 1: Oh actually okay, yeah, hear me out. When fam KYSA
is like AK forty seven the vents.
Speaker 3: Oh she has the orgasm while she's shooting the gun. Yeah,
I think that was the first time I ever saw
in an orgasm happening. I don't think it was like
a shooting.
Speaker 1: Orgasm, but yeah, yeah, I saw that orgasm that oh
many times I was like, what's happening here? Uh? Dan?
So you've been playing uh for Vampire Survivors. Just it's
my favorite gift of all time. This is great radio.
I'm just posting camps and describing vampires radio school. What
did you get back into Vampire Svipers? Was it for
the Castlevania with.
Speaker 3: DLC, which is just the motion socker shit. I've played
forty seven hours of this fucking game in the last
two weeks. Yeah, it is just unreal. Like I have
loved this game.
Speaker 1: I'm all my playing on my flights, not to Castmania.
I'm still getting through the Japanese stuff and the Contra
and among Us and all that. Yeah, not among Us yet.
I didn't get the among Us one.
Speaker 3: I restarted again because I did it on one Steam account,
then I did it on Xbox, I've done it on
Switch and now I'm playing it all again to with
the Castlevania stuff, and it's like, this is one of
my favorite games of all time, and this Castle Anything is.
Speaker 1: Like bigger than the original release.
Speaker 3: And I thought, I don't want to spoil certain things,
but like every time I thought, I'm like, okay, I'm
probably probably done with this. I unlocked the last thing,
or I got to this part on the map or whatever.
There are moments where it's like, are you fucking kidding me?
With the amount of stuff that it opens up and grows,
and like this is the ultimate Vampire Survivors experience now,
Like this, this DLC is unreal, and even just the
way that the map is laid out, and it's not
just like you know, like all the maps have different
gimmicks and challenge levels and stuff like this, but this
is like a full level where you're just unlocking warp
points and unlocking doors and all these boss fights and
everything and hidden items you can find. It is and
for a game that is so like esthetically, you know,
pretty inspired by Castlevania, you can.
Speaker 1: Tell like a contract that makes sense as well.
Speaker 3: The level of love for Castlevania is so apparent here
because it is like obscure characters and enemies and stuff
like that, and it's like just the love of Castlevania
is all over this and it's just got me thinking
about the series a ton again. Like I talked Kayla
into playing a Simpthing to the Night. She's never played
a Caslvania before, so she started streaming that. I'm watching
her play Something to Night, and I'm like, God, damn it,
Caslovania is so fucking good. So I'm just on a
huge Caslvania.
Speaker 4: Kick right now. I have so much appreciation for that series.
Speaker 3: It makes me want to play the DS ones again
on that new thing they put out, the Dominants Collection,
and yeah, if you have not played Vampire Survivors yet,
right now is such an easy like I don't know
if there's a bundle deal on Steam or something, but
like the base game and all of the DLC are
all like a few bucks each.
Speaker 4: Just get this game. It is so fantastic.
Speaker 2: N this point is so reasonable for the amount of
gameplay that you can.
Speaker 3: Have and a oh yeah, I've gotten so much more
joy out of this like three dollars game than I've
gotten out of many seventy dollars games. It's just it
really is one of my favorites of all time.
Speaker 1: Now I've been jumping around the DLC so much I
still haven't even completed the one point zero collection. Oh,
like from the base because I have a bunch of
the characters and weapons unlocked from the Japanese from the
Moon's Forests. Yeah, that's not my favorite, but it was
still like they've got some really useful weapons.
Speaker 3: To have unlock all those, Yeah, and then you can
bring those into the Castlevania map.
Speaker 1: Japan One can get tough if you're not building the
character right. But I've done the contras stuff more now,
not the among Us, but Caslvania I still haven't started.
I'm trying to build out the actual original collection. There's
still a few I'm missing. Yeah, but yeah, that game
is still my favorite playing game. I've been playing it
a lot.
Speaker 2: On I probably play it on the flight that I
have like coming up. I think these are like it's
just such a good flight game, and I think it
just continues to be one for the books in terms
of like easy play. You can pick it up. You
can finish a game in like forty minutes if you're
doing well. If you do lose or like let's say
you like ran out of power, you wouldn't be like no,
like you'll be fine, Like you'll survive Vampire well.
Speaker 3: And it's just it is so cool for such simple
concept of just you're moving the stick around and you're
picking up grades.
Speaker 4: There is a level of depth to it and humor
and secrets.
Speaker 3: And like, there's way more going on to this game
that you might think if you just played a handful
of just like running around trying to survive at thirty minutes,
it's like, no, there's a lot to think about as
far as evolutions and strategies and unlocks and things.
Speaker 4: It's really something special.
Speaker 1: Mm yeah, I love it. I'm what was the I
love the stuff where you have to like combine four
items to get an upgrade to evolution, like the Divine
Path or whatever it's called.
Speaker 4: The Uh, well, there's the ones with the arrows and
you know the the lancets and yeah.
Speaker 1: Those are always a blast. Yeah. I love the weapon.
I think it's from the moonspell. It's just a cat.
Cats come flying off from off screen and eat.
Speaker 4: People's that's in the base game. Yeah, one of the
characters could do that.
Speaker 1: No really, yeah, but yeah that game is read. That's
basically all I've been playing outside of work stuff lately,
which has been it's a nice way to turn off.
Oh yeah, what what else have you been playing? Dan?
Speaker 4: Call of duty still playing multiplayer. It's awesome.
Speaker 3: It's just like it's been introducing turned Nuketown into holiday
you know version for December, and.
Speaker 1: It's like Christmas theme.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's not just like, oh they made it snowy.
It's like there there's a lot of care and like
all the houses are decorated with like Christmas stuff and
there's like Christmas there's this Christmas event to unlock for
like the next twelve days or whatever. So and now
Bonx in now too, so Boks Like normally, you know,
Bonk and I generally gravitate towards different genres of games
and everything. And you know, I've been loving this so
much and talking to her about it a lot, and
she started playing some multiplayers. She's playing it right now upstairs.
And so now we've been doing at night, like I'll
just bring the gaming laptop up. I'll just set it
up like on a TV tray on the couch. She'll
be playing on the big screen and we will just
crank up the sound and just play tons of multiple
were like pop a couple double XP things at the
same time. We're like, all right, we're in for an
hour and then just play. It's oh man, it's so good.
It has just been skyrocketing up my games of the year.
I'm I don't know why. I just feel so good
to be It's like an old recognizable like, oh, Call
of Duty. Man, I really really enjoyed this game in
the past. It's been a few years and god damn it,
it's just good to have back.
Speaker 1: You know. Do you think you like two teen reboot
multiplayer better or this?
Speaker 3: I think I like this more. I think this is like,
this might be my favorite Call of Duty. It's like
this and four basically like the first modern warfare, Like
this is the first time I prestiged since Call of
Duty four. Yeah, and it's a smart stef too, where
you can like set you know, permanent unlocks when you proceige.
They've probably done that before, but I never prestige in
previous ones lately.
Speaker 1: So yeah, for season the past few past two at
least has been season based. Oh interesting, you couldn't just
do it. They brought it back where you could just
proceige prestige at your own pace in this one, which
was a very nice comeback for sure.
Speaker 3: Oh nice, nice, Yeah, just smart decisions all over the place.
Of this game, and like, yeah, we'll probably end the
podcast tonight and I'm either gonna play Call of Duty
or Vampire Survivors.
Speaker 1: Why are you playing Command of Conqueror Generals. I mean,
I liked, I like that game to some extent, but
I see that's on the list.
Speaker 3: Well, because like in the last because I want to
ask you about this, Mike, because like in the last
year or so might have been more. They added all
of the Command of Conquer games to uh Steam, which
you used to have to like it's the only thing
I used Origin for before. Is like I bought the
Ultimate collection all these Command of concer games around there,
like no, they're all on Steam now, and I realized,
like Reddler two as well, Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're all there. Yeah,
they're run great shit. I don't know if online you
might have to do some stuff to get online working.
I'm not sure, but you know, at the height of
my Command and Conquer obsession with like Redler two in
like the early two thousands, Generals was the next one.
But that was the one where it went from sprite
based graphics to polygons and I had my shitty e
machines computer that could not run anything with polygons. So
it's like, fuck, I so want to play with new
Command of Conquer. I'm coming off my favorite one ever
and so I bought it and I was not able
to play it, and like, also, you couldn't return it
to Best Buy because it was a PC game and
opened up and all that stuff.
Speaker 4: So I really got hosed on that one.
Speaker 3: So yeah, So for like twenty five years or so,
I've been like, fuck, this is the game that like
I had to stop playing Command of Conquer because my.
Speaker 4: Computer just couldn't run it, and say, let's go back,
let's see how it is.
Speaker 3: And so I've done a couple of campaign levels the
Strand Room the other night, and I think I'm gonna
go forward. It's uh, I'm curious what the general vibe
is on Generals among Commanded Conquer fans, because I am
enjoying it quite a bit. And Mike, I don't know
if you spend much time with that. You were a
big red Aler guy. Oh, I played a lot of Generals.
Uh have you played zero are yet?
Speaker 4: I was going to do that if I finished the
campaign of this.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I could be talking my ass, but my
take on Generals when it first came out, was this
is a bit too realistic, Like it's China, the PLO,
I forget what they're calling this and America. So they
lost a lot of the like zaniness of the like
faux Cold war, nuke towing, oils and just weird einst
traveling and all that you can get through most missions
and like skirmishes just by upgrading the hum beats all
the way for America. Yeah, I still liked it a lot,
but it was like, wow, this got They're like using
dirty bombs, this got two uh an Iraq war era. Yeah,
like when we were back in Iraq, I have something standing.
Yeah zero hour. On the other hand, I feel like
that's a bit of a reaction to the criticism that
I got a bit too realistic. The thing was zeror
that's super cool, and this is very like total war
or StarCraft. They added these very cartoonish generals for so
there's a three factions still they might they might have
added forth, but each of those three factions has a
general who has their own twist on the faction. So
you one of the Chinese generals will like, all of
a sudden, the tanks he's he loves he's obsessed with lasers,
so all of the shit has lasers on it. Okay,
there's an American general who really likes tanks, so you
get a bunch of upgrades for tanks. It's like it's
again like real time strategy games after this, like StarCraft
two Total war games, they do this now it's pretty standard,
like there's legendary lords within each faction or race in Warhammer,
it's it's a fucking blast like the laser dude, even
his defense turrets are lasers. Now it's and it's also
you could tell they were going back to the goofiness
of like the the Kremlin phone call scenes from Red Alert.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's good to know because that is something I've
noticed is that like, I'm really enjoying the gameplay from
what I've seen, but like I was like starting campaign
missions to me like okay, what am I going to
see James Earl Jones yelling at me for something or
like some Xenia on a top looking lady sent it me, Yeah,
nuke something.
Speaker 1: I remember the campaign to be specific, I play the skirmishes,
but again, yeah, like Zero Hour, I almost had a
I always have a blast with yeah, cause it's like
engaged opposing forces at hotspots around the globe as you
match strategies and arsenals against the new masterminds of modern war.
So it's this like rogues gallery of people who are
into one thing or another, like let me jan don't
remind myself. I wonder if I should just give to
that then, or if I mean the don't really learned
super long. You know, No, I don't remember the campaigns
really well at all. I just like the skirmishes. I
like going trying all the different general zero hour generals.
That's what I always did, even with like Red alerts.
Speaker 3: I don't even necessarily remember doing the campaigns for like
Red Alert or the old like Tiberian Sun ones.
Speaker 1: But big skirmish guy, Yeah, it's g la is what
they're called plo is the real is a real thing.
General's Challenge Oh, okay, here we go. General's Challenge was
the mode I loved. It was. In this mode, the
player takes on the identity of one of the nine
generals and battles other generals one by one, ultimately confronting
a powerful boss general who it's like a tournament, it's
a it's a blast. And then you. They each each
of them have like different obsessions that leads them to
certain bonuses. I mean Redler two had the like Korea
had the Grand Canon, Germany had the Tank Destroyer, they
had the bespoke units for each of the countries. But
this one is very much more like cartoonish villains and stuff. Nice.
Speaker 3: I remember Red Alert three they had Rick Flair play
one of the generals. I think it was in like
a DLC or something. And whenever I would meet wrestlers,
typically I would like to like, you know, I never
want to be the guy that just asked the question
that everyone's asked a million times, like what do you
think about it?
Speaker 4: So the first time I met Rick Flair was the JW.
Speaker 3: Marriott Bar in probably like twenty eleven, and I sat
down next to him, had a drink, and I started
talking to him and I'm like, hey, I love Command
and Conquer. I thought it was weird and cool when
you were in a Red Alert three as one of
the generals. He's like, what it's like the video game
that you remember? You did all the commercials where his
Flair versus Bear and you were fighting a guy in
a barasuit and you were in the game yelling at
the player.
Speaker 1: He's like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3: You were in a video game, Rick Flair, and he's like,
I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: That's just so awkward, and you just left.
Speaker 1: No there for a while.
Speaker 3: I took a picture of him. He had three Gen
and Tonics in front of him. He had the largest
show in the game. I might have pulled it up,
but then he just started talking about like his wrestling
career from the eighties, and like, oh man, in the eighties,
we really we were really rocking and rolling in the eighties, Like, yes,
I know that, but can we talk about Commanding Conker?
Speaker 1: Did he just forget? I was trying to deny it.
I think he forgot.
Speaker 3: And then I was pissed off because we did a
podcast episode with John Cena, and I would help our
hosts come up with like questions for him and stuff
like that, and I was like, Okay, you got to
ask Sena about Command and Conquer because somebody asked him
about it once on a red carpet and he wouldn't
stop talking about like his cure of strategy and Red
Alert too, like Sena is like into Red Alert. And
then like the conversation never really went that way. It's like, God, damn,
I want to talk to John Cena about Command of.
Speaker 1: Conquer his strats? Yeah, what's what was? What was the
metal like? Back when he was playing?
Speaker 4: I just built a ton of Cure ofs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, remember when we did that the live stream series
where yes, I had how did it? What happen? We
basically were like destroying each other's bases like ships in
the night. And I had a kure of left and
you had a tank which could not attack the cure
of right. Oh my god, I've won. I just need
to go kill him. But of course you the Kreof's
not fast enough to catch the tank, so you just
ran all over the map until I was forced to
surrender because you were more stubborn than I was. I
wasn't gonna give up. There's no fucking leaf. But I
was like, I was like, this is not fun for
people to watch, so I didn't care. I was thinking
about the viewers. That's why I'm thinking. Ory.
Speaker 2: I'm like that too in in board games. If if
I'm going to lose, I'm just gonna draw it out
until everyone's miserable. Rica totally Yeah, I will not go
quietly into that dark night.
Speaker 1: Have you been playing anything else besides Naiad?
Speaker 2: I played a little bit more silent.
Speaker 1: Hell.
Speaker 2: I am trying to get through it.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: It is so scary. I am getting to the point
where that game gets progressively scarier and it has really
forced me to do additional combat. There is a section
where I've met it's my wife's dupe, uh, Mary's look
alike her friend or whatever, and she's kind of like weirdly,
I don't know, she's like kind of sexy, and she's
like kind of hitting on me. She like touch me,
and I'll be like, whoa, I'm looking for my dead wife,
and she'll be like, I'm just messing with you. And
it's like, well, there's fucking like headless legs trying to
kill us, so I don't really feel like having a
bildlone with you right now. She just there's something about
This is not the remake. This is just more of
a critique critique of the original, which is just like
the characters are often nonsensical. This lady's idea that she
can have a little riff with me when I am
going through a hellish nightmare, and I think maybe the
ghost of my dead wife needs me, and so I
am going through hell itself to find her. And this
girl is like, do you want to go to this
strip club? It's just a crazy place, you know, like
anything can happen there, and it's just like, what are
you fucking talking about? It's just so odd that they
try to sell me on this character and she looks
very much like my dead wife, so like the character
is so off put by this woman, and she's constantly like,
I don't know what are we gonna do? And then
right as we get to a uh, we're in the
nurse facility, like we're like in a doctor unit, which
is fucking terrifying. This is where the nurses come out right,
and they're very difficult to kill. You have to use
shotgun shells to kill these nurses. They're very intense. And
I'm walking around with this fucking useless twig who's telling
me that she's kind of attracted to me, but like
not really just joking. We go into a room after
we kill like eight nurses, and she's like, I'm tired,
I'm gonna take a nap, and she lays down in
this shit mattress and goes to sleep. She's asleep right now,
and I've been murdering dead people.
Speaker 1: Is that? Why? Is that how video games work? In
your head? Like, because you're not playing it, she just
stays asleep until you play it again.
Speaker 2: Still there, as far as I know, she's still there,
stick napping away. And I'm just blown away that they
originally that they design this character, and I think this
is probably more of a game design decision where they
were like, we don't want you to have a NPC
that's following me around in these sections. It'd be really irritating,
and we don't want to make more dialogue for her,
so she's going to take a nap now. But the decision,
the story arching decision that like, this character will now
just take a nap so that you don't have to
deal with them for the next three sections of the
game is so funny to me. All the beautiful graphics
and all of the upgrades in the world can't stop
me from laughing at the fact that, like, this woman
that I've been dealing with for the last three hours
is like me sleepy now and just lays down. I'm done.
Speaker 4: I like the resident evil horror style with Ashley where it's.
Speaker 3: Like, Okay, I don't want to deal with you during
this combat scenario, so it's getting a dumpster.
Speaker 1: Yeah, alright, there's a story.
Speaker 4: I'm putting you in a locker until I'm done killing everyone.
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, I think that. And there's also something
about Silent Hill that is more serious than Resident Evil.
Resident Evil joked a lot, and it let you make
fun of it sometimes because it was just like, yes,
this is fantasy and strange, so laugh at these silly characters.
Silent Hill takes itself very seriously, and I just don't
think you're supposed to laugh. There's another character I forget
his name, everyone's who Yeah, the cheeddy guy. Yeah, okay,
I just saw them in a movie theater. And he's
eating melted ice cream out of the bucket, and so
he's talking to me and in his one hand is
a full giant ice cream bucket and he keeps scooping
it out with his fingers and sucking pink ice cream
off of his fingers while he's saying to me, I'm
not really ready to leave yet, it's nasty, and.
Speaker 1: Hear me out. We found it finally, Eddie ice cream
off his fingers. Dan we got you, actually, horny, I
was hid bon Dan.
Speaker 2: It's okay, great that you found something that gets your
rocks off.
Speaker 1: I'm boner free. Someone twenty four seven.
Speaker 2: Noted strawberry ice cream off of their fingers is exactly
what Dan likes.
Speaker 1: That's my thing. Let's get let's get fire Escape cast
shirts that just say boner free twenty four with no
logo anywhere on it. No, it's not all pumping.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mary. I watched because I never really
loved the gameplay of Silent Hill. I appreciated the like
psychological take on horror, you know, it made it different
than Resident Evil, but so I never really knew what
the was going on that game. I watched Kayla. I
joined her when I was in town for like the
last four hours of that game. She streamed it and
it all went completely over me in Kayla's heads. But
then like people were explaining it afterwards, and I've looked
stuff up and it's like, oh wow, this is actually
like it is an interesting game that it is very
sad in that like I've never really don't really play
a lot of sad games or watch sad movies or
anything like that, And so that was new to me,
and then like the main character kind of just sucks
and I'm used to in most games being like I
just want to be up.
Speaker 4: I'm just a guy with a gun. I'm a dude
who jumps on turtles.
Speaker 3: I just like I'm not used to the idea of
like the protagonists being like, oh no, I don't like
this person I'm controlling and especially you know, I'm not
gonna spoil anything story wise, but by the end it's
just like, oh, okay, realize and everything that happened.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, yeah, this guy sucks, so not.
Speaker 2: A great dude. Yeah, I agree. I think this does
kind of remind me like Resident Evil is more my
jam me too. Playing someone like Chris Redfield is like,
you can I can get behind someone like that, you know,
like you can definitely see yourself as these like protagonists
that can be flawed and even problematic or scared little
little babies, but they are doing the best they can
in a crazy situation. This person is an anti hero
and they're also kind of a wiener. I mean even
before I agree, before you know anything that's actually happening
in the story or like what they've done just in
the gameplay, they're not very interesting. I'll never forget early
in the original game, and I haven't come across it
in the remake. I'm looking for it. But in the
original game when I played Silent Hill Too, he comes
across a piano and he's his dead wife's name is Mary,
and he says Mary used to play piano. She wasn't
very good, and I remember just thinking to myself, you
raggedy bitch, that you're gonna go to this town to
find your dead wife and you see something that reminds
you of her, and the first thing you do is say, well,
she wasn't very good at it, but like, yeah, this
does remind me of how pissed she was at piano.
You don't deserve her. I was originally playing it and
I was like, oh, fuck you like going around, and
then I think right after that he goes I still
liked tearing her play it, which is like his redeeming quality,
but originally just saying that, like she wasn't very good,
I was like, oh, fuck off, like shut off.
Speaker 1: Like the.
Speaker 2: Entire plot of this game is that you're going to
this town to find your dead wife because you know,
presumably you love her. Or whatever. You're just making fun
of her.
Speaker 1: You suckie.
Speaker 3: It's not even like his fucking like weapon skills or anything,
like he sucks at everything in that game like I'm
used to, like you know, Dante, It's like, Oh, I'm
just fucking slicing someone up with a sword and shooting
with like a million guns and doing stylish shit like
this guy is just doping around Spooky Town a jacket,
just being an asshole.
Speaker 1: Like I don't like this guy.
Speaker 2: Suck in medicine bottles and pumping them up full of
meds he ain't punch, and no boulders.
Speaker 1: This guy's a bitch yep yeah, yep.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm probably gonna finish it. Yes, I need to.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: It is a rite of passage for me to finish
this game. I also think, for the record, i'm critiquing
like the original concept, story and characters, which I think
are a little muddier and I prefer the Resident Evil universe.
This is still an extraordinarily quality remake and game that
I'm very excited about. So yes, I'm w one hundred
percent finish this game. But I yeah, I struggle with
the same things I struggled with with the original, which
is just like unlikable people left and right. Also, like
the little girl in this game who's constantly stepping on
your hand or kicking your keys when you're trying to
reach for them. She sucks too. There ain't anyone redeemable
in this game. Everyone sucks like there's no one going.
You never come across to anyone, and you're like, I
like them, I hope that we can save them. Everyone
everyone sucks, whole town sucks. Some kind of there has
to be some kind of theme here. Yeah, like everybody
is everybody is bad, nobody is good, you are miserable.
Get through it.
Speaker 1: Sounds I I I do want to finish it as well.
I like that I played.
Speaker 3: But Mary, I think we have very similar opinions in
Silent Hill, like respect it. No, it's a good series,
but not necessarily for us.
Speaker 2: It's just not something I'm like looking forward to dealing with.
When I see a character and I'm like, this bitch
is gonna piss me off? Yeah, and she does every time.
The girl that I these cut scenes, the napping girl,
I should know her name, but I forget. It's not Mary,
it's not my wife.
Speaker 1: It's a different name.
Speaker 2: So, Yes, it's very similar. Yes, it's Maria and every
one of her uh lines, it's delivered like this, don't
you know?
Speaker 1: Talk hear me out?
Speaker 2: Hey this?
Speaker 1: God, have you ever met a woman? Name a woman?
Speaker 2: I just feel that this game could be funner.
Speaker 1: You do that very well.
Speaker 2: I hate her?
Speaker 1: You do it? Really? Yeah? You for hating her. You
nailed it.
Speaker 2: I'm just joking with you. God, I don't like it.
I don't like being this person.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you want to do emails? Sure? Okay. As usual,
you can write into fire Escape cast at gmail dot
com for questions, comments, photos of on the top. Any
of this stuff is fair game. All the stars are here,
all the stars.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: We have a couple of questions tonight, and the first
one is from a frequent emailer, Wes. It's a short one,
but it's a it's a sweet one. Literally.
Speaker 2: We need we need more emails as well, so send
in more emails.
Speaker 3: We got the week where Mike was gone and I
scrambled and put together emails for the last second.
Speaker 1: I grabbed like eight emails. Yep. I don't know what
full episode yet, so or any of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, send more emails.
Speaker 1: Uh, And then uh, okay, never mind, okay, making sure
I wasn't duplicating one. Yeah, this's Mary. I want to
read this first quick one from Wes from Baltimore. Yes,
do you have the knock up? I just saw the
logo come pop back up.
Speaker 2: Hello, kit cats are significantly better frozen. Do you prefer
any candy frozen? Thanks Wes from Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Peeps nerves are way better for nerds. Yeah, they're already
rock hard.
Speaker 3: They had to take about of blizzards because they just
took am out of blizzards because they would just break kids.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any really. Yeah, yeah, I was like bad.
I mean it tasted good. I've had them, but like
that's sick. Peeps are awesome for Oh yeah, they get
like way chewier you know what you think? Peeps made
me think of marshmallows and Mary Baka.
Speaker 3: I we were decorating the Christmas tree and stuff recently,
and you brought us that nice hot chocolate from Portland
and we put the big ass marshmallows in there and
whipped cream on top. And oh, I don't think I
realized how much of a fan of like marshmallows and
hon chocolate I could be. I've never I barely had
hot chocolate my wife, and that was fantastic, especially like
cold Minnesota winter like hot chocolate and marshmallows like that
as good as hell.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Note that's it should be Moonstruck. So
anyone who's looking for the brand Moonstruck, we.
Speaker 1: Watched that movie over Thanksgiving break at my parents.
Speaker 2: No, it's not based on the movie.
Speaker 1: No, I know this is funny. I forgot to mention
that because I haven't seen you guys giving. Yeah with
shared Nicholas Cage, what do you mean but share? What
other Moonstruck is there? Yeah? The third best movie made ever,
ever made ever. If you can't tell, I'm still jet
lagged anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very good brand of hot chocolate. And
my I always say this every time someone's like, I
love the hot chocolate, which people usually do when I
give it to them as a gift, and I always
say it's the it's the gift that Obama usually gives
people when he gives them chocolate. He gives the Moonstruck chocolate.
So it's good chocolate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hand makes it. Really, it's some moon Struck
yo oh oh big guy judging me about movies I watch.
But I'm talking about I don't know. Have you seen Moonstruck?
Are you wondering to you? Have you seen Moonstruck?
Speaker 2: No, nobody's seen it but you.
Speaker 1: And it's just so much true. Did she really? Yeah?
I think she wanted to for that phenomenal It's just
so funny, like has a wooden hand in it.
Speaker 2: If you haven't seen that movie, that's a really funny
thing to say about the chalk.
Speaker 1: No, it's not. It's not a wooden hand. It's like
a gloved thing. He stirs it with his wooden hand.
He yeah, spoon, is that gross?
Speaker 2: It's not my skin, This is my wooden hand. Spoon.
Speaker 4: Reese is not rageous. Is much better. Frozen cups in general.
Speaker 2: Cups and anything is usually especially I.
Speaker 1: Like chewy chocolate chip cookies in the fridge after well,
I mean, I don't eat them in the fridge. But guys,
I've generately had zero drops of alcohol today. I am
just like still on French time.
Speaker 2: In the middle of the night, I got up and
shot an elephant in my pajamas. How the elephant got
in my pajamas? I have no idea.
Speaker 1: Oh, shit. I forgot to tell you, guys, we have
to we have a visit with a cat doctor tomorrow.
How that cat became a doctor as anybody's guys. Uh
you guys.
Speaker 3: He heard the Norm thing when he was on coding
and he was like, yeah, I what the doctor and
my cat was sick and uhyah. Turned out I had
like some tumor. It was cancerous. And the doctor says,
I got bad news and good news. The bad news
is based I want to see from this tumor. It's
only got three months to live. The good news is
it's just a cat.
Speaker 1: That's fucked. I don't like it. I'm not Oh, Norm
said something you don't likes, never saying thing well wow,
some more defended people have said things I don't like.
Speaker 2: You have to be able to laugh at the darkest
things among us. I was also just gonna say, girl, Scout,
thin mint's are so good in the freezer. This is
common knowledge. I am not educating anyone on thin mints
in the freezer, but I mean, I actually don't think
I could have them. I really That's the first thing
I do when I buy them, I say thank you
very much. I give them the money they give me
the cookies. They go right in the freezer. I don't
do not exist on the counter in the freezer.
Speaker 1: Feer Mint in general, I think tastes better when it's
cooler in most forms.
Speaker 2: Patty's freezer, Like, if it's mint in chocolate, it goes
in the freezer.
Speaker 1: Mint ice cream is better cold.
Speaker 2: Strawberry ice cream best melted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like to scoop it.
Speaker 2: It's my fingers in a movie theater.
Speaker 1: Oh her wooden hands sucking strawberry ice cream popper or
cedar fingers. Oh my goodness, that's my things. A US.
Speaker 3: Snickers ice cream bars or Snickers Normal better ice cream bars?
Speaker 1: I think I do too.
Speaker 3: I mean Snickers Normal is like the purple candy bar.
But I think Snickers ice cream is like, Wow, you
made this better with ice cream.
Speaker 2: It depends on the environment. I would say on a
warm day, of course it would be ice cream. But
if it's like the middle of winter, I would choose
a regular Snickers. It's weather dependent.
Speaker 3: Well, I think ice cream bar I had was there
was like one hundred degrees in Oklahoma heading to my
sister's wedding this summer, and it's like looking at stuff
to get in the gas stations, like, oh man, a
Snicker's ice cream bar one hundred degrees in the middle
of nowhere, like that is the perfect snack right there.
But you're right, if it's like dead of winter, maybe standard.
Speaker 1: I think we probably talked about this on the The
Bonus video where we ranked or tear listed candy. But
I think I agree with you. The Snickers is the
ideal candy bar because I love fast breaks. What's the
five five? I love both of those, but I feel
like there's diminishing returns when you just start stacking it
and it removes from the like purity of the Snickers
when there's too much going on.
Speaker 3: It's just the ratio of everything with the Snickers is
so perfect. It's I would not change this single.
Speaker 2: I'm the Milky Way girl. I just I just don't
always want peanuts that just.
Speaker 1: New getting caramel three Musketeers. People like those are psychos.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like Milky Way three much clear the same thing.
Speaker 2: Oh like my go to that was where I went.
I don't think. I don't think I've ever bought a
Snickers in a drug store or anything like. I don't
think i've ever been I've never been in a Kroger
checking out and been like, I gotta get a Snickers. No,
of course I've had a Snickers. Oh I eat them
in like Halloween candy bags, right like I would get
the mini Snickers and eat the minis and stuff like that.
I've had Snickers purchased for me. I've never made a
conscious decision to be like, as I'm checking out, be
like I will have a Snickers.
Speaker 1: It was always like, sucked down a king size?
Speaker 2: You have a suck down a king size? You sound
like a fucking troll under a bridge talking to me
like that.
Speaker 1: Let's let's go to the bote guy. I'll get.
Speaker 2: You have sucked on us knickers on a tube.
Speaker 1: I'll let you through the tunnel if you suck down
that Snickers you got like this character. Have you guys
had the Emperor sized stickers in? What? What country do
they sell it in? Do they have emperors anymore anywhere? Uh?
Just as people. I don't think they go by that.
Speaker 2: Okay, he changed, they changed the name, but the players
are the same.
Speaker 3: Is like in line at a drug store or grocery store.
That's probably my number three. I probably a bought the
most Starburst and then Skittles and then snickers.
Speaker 1: I think, are you twiddlers? Are you like your body show?
Have you adjusted to the your new diet without the
Halloween candy? Did you just did you confirm that's what
the problem was? Oh? Yeah, what was the problem that
was happening? There was something that was like you were
like having sugar with your awls after Halloween season.
Speaker 3: Oh, it was the weird headaches when I moved my head. Yeah,
that's not happening anymore.
Speaker 2: Weird headache.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you were in any direction it was like out. Yeah,
I guess that stopped happening. I haven't thought of that
in a while. Yeah. Good, didn't seem healthy. I'm just waiting.
Speaker 3: I need time to move forward so I can get
on marathon training that which starts in May, because I
feel like I'm in a dead zone between here and May.
Speaker 4: We're like, all right, and I'm gonna be unhealthy.
Speaker 1: Probably have you not? I thought you started marathon training.
Speaker 4: No, that starts in May. Marathons in October.
Speaker 1: Oh, you finished the half marathon a couple of two
halfs this year, and now it's like that doesn't make one.
Now I'm kind of waiting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now, I'm just kind of waiting for Janny word,
like all right, I'll get onto like a daily you know,
the cardio thing, just so I'm ready for training in May.
But right now I'm in that weird holiday dead zone.
Speaker 2: You're allowed to have a holiday dead zone. And I
encourage everybody who has like been like, hey, I should
probably get on that diet or like be on that
heavy exercise regimen. That's what January is for give yourself
a frickin' break and enjoy the holiday season. I also
struggle with this personally, and this is when I went
to the Ravens Manor one of their number one drinks
is essentially eggnog, and I was like, I just want
to try it. I let things go in December, live
your life.
Speaker 3: It is striking, though I don't know if this is
just a getting older thing, but like the speed in
which you can go from like like like something like
cardio help and stuff like I think that stays that
lasts a little longer, but like the speed in which
you can like put on weight, Like you know, I
went from like the lowest weight I've been in like
over ten years when I was like finishing up the
marathon training to like it's not crazy, but you know,
I put on fifteen pounds probably since then, and it's like,
god damn, that gonna happen pretty quick, like a couple
months if you're like not actively working out regularly and
watch what you eat specifically, Like they can turn around quick.
Speaker 2: And this only gets worse every year. It does not
get better. It will just get worse. Yeah, it will
get harder. You will just more easily put on weight
from now until the end of time, unfortunately, but it's
more motivation for you to stay on the uh treadmill
or whatever it is that fuels you. But I do
encourage people to give themselves a freaking break in December, right,
like have yeah, have the eggnog, have the have the
extra helping of mashed potato.
Speaker 3: You know, enjoy yourself well and with what we do,
and like, you know, we all live I mean, Mike,
you're closer, but like you know, we live away from
our parents. So it's like typically we have a trip
home for Thanksgiving and then it's like, Okay, there's a
lot of eating like shit there and then frequently we're
going to the Game Awards and doing stuff like that.
In early December and then you get back, you have
maybe a week and then you go back for Christmas
and then you got New Year's parties and stuff. So
like December like for me, is always fucked, Like it's
almost impossible to stay on a good thing in December.
So like January, like I've never been the big like
New Year's resolutions always felt so arbitrary. But sometimes it
just works out schedule wise where it's like, all right,
that's when I actually will have time to like be
on a regular schedule. But I envy people, you know,
like Bonk. She travels all the time. You know she's
busy too, and like she is just so just like
I'm going to get this shit done, like that is
a top priority. Is like being healthy both eating and
working out, and like I look at her and it's like,
all right, I don't have an excuse, Like it can
be done.
Speaker 4: Like I'm just giving myself excuses.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I appreciate the dedication. Just don't forget to
enjoy your Christmas.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, uh, thank you, wes Dan. You want to
read this one from Morgan? Yes, high Fire or skip cast.
Speaker 3: Do you guys have any blanket statements something that you
think is true across the board with no exceptions. Some
example of some examples of mine. If there is a
dog or a cat and a game that is not
an enemy and you can't interact or pet it, that
game is trash or not chose without cheese?
Speaker 4: Is it not chose?
Speaker 1: I do agree with that.
Speaker 3: My husband would say any movie for an hour and
a half is too long. These can be about any topic.
Thoughts a long time listening to the cast near other
content platforms. Morgan, Thank you, Morgan. Blanket stavements with no exceptions.
They specifically said there.
Speaker 1: I had one before I had to kind of make
an exception to my If a game, for instance, takes
three hours to get good, yep, then it's not a
good game. Metaphor kind of metaphor is different because it
was still decent in the first two hours. But like
I still believe, like if a game takes let's say
three hours to get good, I don't care how long
it is, it might not be a good game.
Speaker 3: Anytime people say like, oh, yeah, give it like five hours,
and it's like yeah, I normally would say that as
a blanket statement, but like this year infinite wealth, like
that takes a while to get moving and then it
gets really good, and so I think there are exceptions
for that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are slow burns, and I can I'm all
for that, but it's like when something is actively pushing
back against my enjoyment for five hours. Sure, Infinite Wealth
was bearable for a bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so funny and interesting and everything, but
like it doesn't open up for a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what other blankets stay? I definitely have a bunch.
I'm sure that.
Speaker 2: One that's similar to the uh, the writer's husband. My
blanket for movies is a bit more lenient than that,
but it is No movie needs to be three hours. Period.
If it's three hours, it could have been just as good,
and it could have been two hours and fifty five minutes.
Three hours is my cutoff. Every time I've ever seen
a movie that's three hours, even good ones, I've been like,
you could have you could have edited that from the ear,
could have you could have cut something one thousand percent.
There's no movie on earth that needs to be three hours.
That's how I feel.
Speaker 1: Pretty extreme, but like I feel so ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Good ones, right, prove it. I'm looking at right now.
Name it Lord of Ring's Return of the King sucks. Shit,
Green good, God, We Fall is good, Deer Hunter is great. Uh,
titan isn't.
Speaker 2: This isn't. This is a different argument, though, I'm not
saying they're not good. You know what I'm saying. I'm
saying that you could have cut five minutes, is what
I'm saying. I don't have you saying that a movie
is good only helps me. I'm still saying they could
be good if you just cut five minutes.
Speaker 3: Sure, Like it's been a while since I saw Titanic.
I'm sure you could cut time from that, right a
hundred percent.
Speaker 2: She doesn't need to look at it art bullshit. You
don't need the five minutes. You don't need that long
on the on the wood panel, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: You could the ship goes down, I you don't need.
Speaker 2: Once that hits the propeller, for sure.
Speaker 1: Climat the what other the Irishman was? Yeah, I didn't
like all.
Speaker 2: It just didn't need it, and I just loved very
For me, I feel very strongly about this. Every time
a movie has a run time of three hours in cinema,
like in a movie theater, I'm always like, you are
you are really pushing it with me. That editor could
have just put in a little bit more juice and
cut out one more goddamn scene. That is a long
time for a person to sit and pay attention. Less
than three hours every movie forever.
Speaker 1: It's always Scorsese now too. Killers of the Flower Moon, Yeah,
I saw it in the theaters.
Speaker 3: I never put to suben theaters, and like, I was like,
not an off and Killers of the Flower Moon we started.
Speaker 1: At ten pm and then by the time I got
to hour two and I like that movie quite a bit.
I was nodding off.
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of bit. I'm not saying they're
not good. They can be phenomenal movies. I'm just saying
they could have cut out one scene or just trimmed
it and made it less than three hours. Three hours
is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It is a.
Speaker 2: Ridiculous length for one piece of cinema.
Speaker 1: Fucking come on, Appazheimer, like it says Oppenheimer's ever. Three
hours of.
Speaker 2: Oppenheimer could have easily been under three hours. That movie
is god tear and it is too fucking log. Did
you do the ending where like, uh, they're like walking
towards each other in the grass and it just keeps
panning back and forth between them.
Speaker 1: Like from Monty Python. Yes, if that would be a
really weird choice. If they did that with Oppenheimer with
three hours, I'd be into it. Yeah, well the show.
The show is basically the opposite of my argument.
Speaker 2: You shouldn't be taking movies and making them three hours.
Speaker 1: You need to be better. Right, good job, it's.
Speaker 2: Not that's literally what I'm saying. I'm literally saying the
opposite of.
Speaker 1: Food, food, culinary, drink, beverage, blanket statements that you guys have. Oh,
I mean there's well, there's regional stuff like Chicago. If
you have put ketchup or mustard on the hot dog,
or if you put yeah, ketchup or mustard on hot dog,
it's not a hot dog? Or is it just ketchup?
I don't know.
Speaker 2: Neither of those are accurate though. Those are just hot
dog like. You can't you can't do that.
Speaker 1: You can't can't you can't make that. Well, I'm saying
people from Chicago don't like it on there, but yeah,
it's still a hot dog. I don't think they'd argue
it's not a hot dog.
Speaker 2: Cuisine.
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like there's things like, oh, all
things with olives are bad. But that's just me saying
I don't like all of what statement is right, just like, yeah,
I do agree with the one here that they said
in the email. Nachos without cheese is a nachos like
one hundred percent, Like cheese is more important than the
chips for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to have melted cheese on nachos.
Speaker 1: What Mike, I was I just I just started thinking
of some really funny ones, and I've probably said, like
anybody who has played Mass Effects six times is I
don't like them? Yeah, I've met some of those types
in that kind of old Yeah. That unlocked a bunch
that I probably actually said in my life.
Speaker 3: I don't think i'd trust me like huge fan of
thirty seconds to Mars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good one. Yeah, question into bullying people,
I'm not saying they're bad people. I'm saying I they're
not for me. Yeah, I don't. I don't trust people
have played Mass Effects six times. I should say you
have to earn my trust if you tell me you
played Mass Effects six times through Yeah.
Speaker 2: In game design, one of my blanket rules is is
if you're using wheelchairs to make an environment scary. That's
like so boring and and lazy, oh one like wheeling out,
Like yeah, I just hate it. There's like so many
other scary things that you could do in an environment
than like a wheelchair, which is just a very normal
thing that people need, and I just don't get it.
And so every time I see it, I'm always like, oh,
the person who designed this space is either not very
experienced or they're just not very worldly or thoughtful when
it comes as to how to scare people, like be
like think outside the box a little bit, and just
like a freaking wheelchair. I don't like that kind of
stuff usually when I see it in a space.
Speaker 3: I don't think it'd be possible for me to enjoy
any visual novel. I don't know if that's the blanket statement,
but just visual novels are bad for me.
Speaker 1: It would be most novels. Maybe I do. Maybe I
just don't.
Speaker 3: I do like reading it justs it takes so long
to read. I mean, I a fast reader. Books have
so many words.
Speaker 2: Though you watch my face. You said it's it's probably
no visual novelists for me, really, and we were all
like I think me and micro both like visual or listen.
Speaker 1: I like reading.
Speaker 3: I've been reading this fucking Stephen King short story collection
for like a year because any recommended it to me.
I've read four of the short stories and liked them
all a lot, But it takes there's so many booking
words and books.
Speaker 1: It's so long. Yeah, they're big collections for words.
Speaker 2: Three hour movie in book form. Like when are you
like I'm not reading all that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've read some really long books before, and
I've enjoyed them. It's just it's like when it's not
part of your day, in your routine, it's like it's
that habit thing where it's just like if I just
got into the habit of like, okay, with my coffee
every morning, I'm gonna, you know, read while I drink
my coffee, then I'd read so much, I think, because
I really have enjoyed whenever I get into a book,
but it's just not part of my day, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like it's become I've started to try and make a
habit out of my weekend. I've started enjoying a slow
morning where I wake up, I have a coffee and
like maybe a you know, whatever little breakfast snacky I
have and I read a chapter of a book. I've
been doing that on my Saturday and or my Sunday,
and I've really enjoyed that experience. But it's very difficult
for me. I know a lot of people who I
have a friend who reads in the shower every time.
They how are they read?
Speaker 1: Everybody's got a good soggy? Is that laminated?
Speaker 2: It's it's it's laminated, just like all of Mike's books,
you know, Yeah, it's it's a kick. I can't get
them sticky, the pages are always stuck together.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I have to laminate my phone for the same
reason laminate our bed.
Speaker 2: You slip over it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so trying to, like and if there's any
tips here, I would love them, because like I would
love to get into the habit of working out every
morning and doing a slow morning where it's like whether
it's reading or breakfast without a phone, things like that.
But like from the moment I wake up, like my
alarm goes up at seven thirty, I just know there's
already like eight unread slacks, discords, emails, things like that,
and it's like I have to get to and then
like as the day goes on, and people actually start
waking up. Like if it's nine am and I'm on
a treadmill or something, I just know that it's piling up.
And by the time I get off the treadmill up
and I have like thirty things I have to like
look at or respond to content. So it's like, how
do you Because I'm like I see people like their
phones and stuff. I got a lot of friends. It's like,
I have thirty thousand unread emails and I have like
a thousand notifications for text.
Speaker 1: Like that's insane to me.
Speaker 3: If I see a notification, I cannot not address it
right away, you know, like, is there do you guys
have that?
Speaker 2: I struggle with that. I mean, I don't think there's
a really solid answer for it besides practice. In my opinion,
I don't think that's a very sexy answer. But I
think my answer is is, like you have to have
the self control because what you're talking about, in my opinion,
is addiction. You have an addiction to, uh not having
any notifications. Do you clear your inbox at the end
of the day.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: I the second an email comes in, I address it
pretty much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's kind of an addictive personality situation
or like neurotic right like where I ain't going to
diagnose you, but the idea that you can't handle like
notifications not read, that can be a symptom of someone
who's like imperfect musk cleans, and and that is habitual
where you should really practice being okay with unread things
because the world goes on and it's also very important
for them to be able to wait for your response,
like it's healthy for you to be able to. That's
probably why you don't ever cook broccoli and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's that's the thing is Like it's not
because I don't think I'm like necessarily addicted to like
you know, the tech part of it of a notifications,
I feel guilt over like if a friend to even
something that's like not work related or not actually important,
like a friend just like oh did you see Raw
last night?
Speaker 4: Or something you see the New Day segment from Raw?
Speaker 3: Like if I see that red notification there, it's just like,
oh God, they sent me this thing, and I'm like
being a bad friend. I need to respond and if
I just go about my day and do the things
I need to do, And so that's the thing. I'll
like pull out my phone and be like, oh, I
need to do this thing, and then I'll see all
these things pop up, and I'll like totally forget why
I pulled my phone out in the first place.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, that's hard. That's a very difficult habit
to fight. And I also think, like I've also struggled
with that. I can do the opposite now where someone
will message me and I'll see a DM and I'll
be like, that's so sweet. But then I will forget
to respond, and then like three months will go a by,
and I'll be like, oh, I never responded to that
person because I didn't think about it at the time,
And then I harbor this guilt that I've never responded
to that person. But I don't Mike, maybe you have
something better for that. But my honest response is that
you should get into a daily habit of letting yourself
see it and then say I'm gonna make myself a
coffee or I'm gonna go have lunch or go for
a walk, and I'm gonna let it go and then
acknowledge over time that like nothing dies, we don't save
lives here.
Speaker 1: Like the world goes on Yeah, anything truly important, you'll
get a call if it's an emergency that you should
to address right away. I mean I stopped like I'm
on Instagram is the only social media I ever use. Uh,
it's just like it. I think it is a matter
of just like cleansing what's really not important to you.
I I've been in a much better place the last
several years after you know, having Yeah, also needed to
clear my inbox and my inpot. My work in box
is pretty clean, but I also don't get nearly as
many emails now as I did at like Polygon, for instance,
which is nice, but it's still I think the people
that I truly care about would not be offended if
I take a bit to get back to them. The
people who would get offended. I don't think I have
many people like that left in my close circle, which
is nice. Well, I'll feel guilt with like.
Speaker 3: Pr people I've never even met in person, where it's
just like I'll get a work email where it's like, hey,
we're really excited were renouncing this game.
Speaker 1: We got a code for this would you be interested
in checking this out?
Speaker 3: Like somebody I've never met with a game, I'm not
interested in I feel guilty if it's like I don't
like respond, or if I just kind of go somemo whatever,
it's like, ah, but like I think that's that's the
media thing. Like we get so many fun press releases
and emails and stuff. People are just trying to promote
their games, and it's like you have to kind just
ignore some of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you do. I would also say, like, I don't
think there's any reason to feel guilty. I think, if anything,
that's you putting a bit too much importance on yourself.
And I don't mean that in a mean way. I'm
just saying like I don't think they're like stewing Riker
hasn't gotten back to me.
Speaker 3: No, They've sent out one hundred plus emails. I'm sure
you blanket email. Yeah, I think it's more. It was
more for me, just like lately at least now it's like,
you know, I take most mourning. I played video games
most in the mornings now these days over coffee, and
then at night I read and study for class and whatnot.
But like, yeah, I let my like Instagram dms pile
up now and I don't care, Like I said, like,
I'll go through and see if any of them are
ones I truly need to respond to. I used to like,
get I have a bunch like several close friends that
send me dumb videos, and I it becomes a to
do list of mine to watch all them just so
I can responds like I don't. Again, if they were
truly important, it would have been a text or like
they would say like please watch this. Like if they're
just sending me them, I don't need to watch all those.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I said, reminders.
Speaker 3: If I see, like someone sends me a YouTube link,
I'm just like, remind me respond to this person later
on when I can actually watch this video. It is
like adding to your to do list, which is again,
these are not real problems, but it's.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's I think it's thinking
of it. I found it helpful to it took some
discipline and practice, but getting away from thinking of it
as to do lists and actually like separating things I need,
shit I need to do, and stuff that's like I
don't really care that I missed this one skit from
that same Instagram channel that my friend always sends me.
I don't even like them to begin with, not the
friend that this like that.
Speaker 4: I thought you would like that match a man at
the Eiffel Tower video.
Speaker 1: I responded, I took a while a re spont of
that because I was in France when I was busy,
and I was like this, Dan won't be pissed if
I don't respond.
Speaker 2: Necessary to respond, Yes, brother, yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm getting there. I'll have a good mantra. Man. Is
that him? Was that him? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Got another one. Dog people are just cooler than cat people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have I have one. Dog people are more
emotionally needy than cat people.
Speaker 3: No, I think we appreciate a pet that actually gives
us some like joy and love and isn't just being
an asshole. Yeah, you know, my cats give us joy,
walk around occasionally, look at you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just keep putting their buttholes in the camera.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fucking Razor just humps boxes and toys.
Speaker 3: Look, Razor's nuts. But you can't say we're not talking
about Razor.
Speaker 2: We're comparing cats to dogs. Razor isn't involved.
Speaker 1: Bring them up. Try to say a single bad word
about Gizmo. I dare you? Gizmo is not that great
freak show.
Speaker 3: Look, look, Bank and I would both admit Fraser's insane
but floor licking toy humping.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jesse fucking I'm a Nator guy. I'm all for
the outsider. Actually, I don't know. Is Ralph Nader known
for bad things these days? I don't alive. I don't
know is he I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe I should make political jokes Razors, like we have
the most fucked fucker category, Like Razor is just a
a dog.
Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, he's the man. I like him more
than giz Tell gizz I said that, Yeah, I will not.
I don't think I have any other blanket statements. Quilts
are nice, though, I think, come on, I mean, come on,
I deserve a bit more anti, come on, what's a quilt?
Speaker 3: I feel like I was raised hearing a lot of
blanket statements, and I think that's maybe why I don't
have any. Is because as I got older, I was
like annoyed by, like, you know, my dad being like
whine is for high maintenance women, and.
Speaker 1: It's like I don't like that.
Speaker 3: As I've actually tried to, you know, evolve as a person,
it's like, maybe blanket statements aren't something that I subscribe to.
Speaker 1: Feel like if we combed through Firescape. We'd probably hear
you making many blanket statements. Assumption that's a blanket statement
I'm making by saying that, but probably maybe not.
Speaker 2: I think it's embedded into your subconscious, don't I'm subconscious.
Speaker 1: I think it's just conscious, a.
Speaker 3: Lot of conscious trying a lot of scraping them out.
And you know I go to therapy every week. You
know we're working on all that for decades.
Speaker 2: Blanket statement. If you're bothered by your neighbors, it's best
to throw the whole damn house away, tell your house, yes, absolutely,
start anew, get rid of your life.
Speaker 1: I have another one. Anybody who's played for Sona five
more than four times fucking sucks. This is one specific
person I'm talking about. I mean, you're probably right, this
is this is just a bit. Francisco sucks as a city.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I could not say that. Noisco I have.
I had fantastic experiences I realized.
Speaker 1: I mean, we all met in San Francisco, we worked there,
but changed like I mean, San Fransco and New York
are not even in the same.
Speaker 2: Changed my life. I do think like it's gone through
some ebbs and flows. But I think all cities can
go through ebbs and flows. I think it's unfair to
just essentially say like a city is like a dirt
bag city.
Speaker 1: It's a blanket statement.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's good people, and I had good like
they're gonna be good people and their good experiences. I
had great experiences, and I mean I meant you guys
have worked a job. I loved all that stuff. But
like city go sucks ass. It is the worst city
I've ever been to. Lot So there's long term or
short term to live.
Speaker 1: In stood on the ground in. I think San Francisco
is the worst over the world.
Speaker 3: Saying for someone who's as traveled as you, there's no
city I've been like, Man, I hate this place more
than San Franisco.
Speaker 1: I here, here's a question. Do you truly think you
put in the work to explore San Francisco Pass like
the neighborhood you lived in where you work. Yeah, yeah, No.
I went out with friends all the time there.
Speaker 3: I would go out the mission and you know all
you know, the north was North Cove, North Beach or
the you know, absolutely, I'm very social going out. I
want to see the city, and that's part of the thing,
is like I'd want to go, like, all right, tonight,
I'm gonna go downtown and I'm gonna, like, you know,
check out the restaurants there and stuff.
Speaker 2: It likes are so good there.
Speaker 3: That there should be better options. It's not there shut
down none of cheese for you. And in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: At nine it's like, that's not true.
Speaker 3: The public transportation sucks shit, Like well, yes, that that's
just America. New York public transportation was great that I
actually about San Francisco.
Speaker 1: But the food, it's got some of them.
Speaker 3: Any fucking city you go to, there's gonna be like
really good restaurants, and that holds true for San Francisco.
Speaker 4: I've been to a bunch of you guys.
Speaker 2: How much of Kentucky have you traveled to?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: The Jack Daniels Distillary is that in Louisville or No?
I think so, yeah, I drove it.
Speaker 2: It's around there, and you know, those restaurants aren't fucking
crazy except for like the fried chicken options. I I
have lived a majority of my life in Ohio and
there are cities in that space that suck ass. And
the idea that you would compare them to San Francisco
and say San Francisco is the worst. You are not
as well traveled as you say you are.
Speaker 1: No, I just know what I like it. When I
don't like you go to bumfuck Ohio.
Speaker 2: And you tell me that that place is so much
better than San Francis.
Speaker 3: If you told me I had to move tomorrow to
Ohioentucky or San Francisco last on the list, would one
thousand percent be San Francisco, Like I would go to
a random ass city in Ohio or Kentucky ten times
out of ten.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, I didn't know we were so pro San
Francisco here.
Speaker 2: Know, I want to fucking pick you up and drive
you to Cincinnati and put you in some fucking.
Speaker 1: Bricks and you yes, I like the Midwest. I love
the Midwest. I was.
Speaker 4: I grew up in the Midwest.
Speaker 1: I know you stick at the.
Speaker 2: Teet of Midwest, and I don't think that you actually
know what culture is.
Speaker 1: That is just so good. I tried hard in San Francisco.
I would to so many restaurants, so many bars.
Speaker 2: You tried, uh, like Fantasio hard to enjoy San Francisco.
Speaker 1: Two and a half years.
Speaker 3: I fucking tried very nice things I have great memories
of going down to Ocean Beach, I going to the
what's the pizza but Tony's Pizza or whatever, went there
a bunch with Mike and Tim and friends and stuff.
Speaker 1: There are there are great things there, but on the
whole garbage town. I can. I absolutely see how San
Francisco like doesn't vibe with you, of course, but I
don't think it's it's it's not in a great place now.
It's worseo when I was there. You know, I don't.
Speaker 2: Why don't fucking pine Cone say that you're living life.
Speaker 1: I've been to. I think every major Mary just say
something bad about Minneapolis and make watch him for one
shithole one bridge. We have numerous bridges. You've got Central
Avenue Care. We have a bunch of wakes so we
can canoe and walk around.
Speaker 2: And there we put inside canoe in all my life.
Speaker 1: A pod and a kayak walk on the lake.
Speaker 3: Could this summer because I had signed a surgery, I
would have been out there a lot like a stone.
Speaker 1: At this point a good swimmer. If I had to
choose between s F and Minneapolis at this point in
my life, I would probably pick Minneapolis.
Speaker 2: Name three types of trees.
Speaker 1: Dan, pine elm, cone of fur. You fur, you mispronounced it.
And also that's more of like a group of trees
pine elm and weeping willow nice justish yeah, and leafy.
Speaker 2: Green, barren brown stem.
Speaker 1: Drunk.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm bear grilled. Just like living in
a place that's got nature, you're never in it. You're
look out in this window, would see a billion trees.
There's a pond, look up.
Speaker 2: A two pm. Because you got drunk as ship.
Speaker 1: Last night where I was coming from, why.
Speaker 2: I just want blood now?
Speaker 3: Wrestling with my friends last night, it was a good
time at the National Armory city to live in.
Speaker 2: You can only do that there.
Speaker 1: They don't. They don't broadcast wrestling to any other American city.
Speaker 4: That's a National Guard armory.
Speaker 1: Oh, what's a National oh Aiden Armory for the National Guard?
That's correct. Where there's guns all over the place. No,
just wrestling and my cannon's next to the ring.
Speaker 4: No, no, not anymore.
Speaker 1: Almost just said rink.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the.
Speaker 1: Hockey ring wrestling rink. Well, thank you, Morgan. The harmony
your question brought to the podcast That's Our Show, Episode
ninety six. I think yes, episode ninety six. It's fun.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 1: It's been four weeks since I last spoke to you well,
I mean recorded right, talk to you too much to say.
Speaker 2: Usually when we do this, we like get started and
do the podcast right away. But when we started this call,
we actually like chit chatted for almost forty minutes, and
I think we did that before we actually started the podcast,
because sometimes you're just like, oh man, what have you
been up to? Like what's up, Bud, And then you're like, fuck,
we have to do the podcast, and so we like
actually start recording. That is such a sign that we've
missed each other, is that we like can't wait to
just catch up and like hot goss, I mean, you
guys gotta have it.
Speaker 1: It's just so nice to do well before recording.
Speaker 3: It's all the shit that we will not be able
to bring all about on the podcast.
Speaker 2: Do you hate Who's on your death Note?
Speaker 1: That's it. Half the time that one of us makes
a joke about somebody anonymous and the other two laugh
really hard, it's because we were talking about them by
name earlier started recording.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we should do like a three hundred dollars tier
on the Patreon why did they just get the whole thing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can't believe it like it burns. It's
like a burn after reading thing. You can only listen
to it for.
Speaker 2: No, I'll get can so people get canceled.
Speaker 4: I think just people might find out what we think
of them.
Speaker 1: Most people know what I think of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we do not really like shy about that. I
don't think there'd be a lot of surprises, frankly.
Speaker 1: No, that'd be yeah. I mean if like certain people
paid for that tier now they would probably. No, I
really don't. I like that.
Speaker 2: I like doing that on on Twitch as well. I
have like there's lots of modes that you can do
where if you want to comment in someone's chat, you
have to follow them for six months. Yeah, and I
like that because that's my way of being like, if
you're such a piece of shit that you want to
comment something nasty in my chat, you have to follow
me in subscribe, give me money for six months, and
if you do that, you can tell me you don't
like me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to be for the long game if
you want to see that, really.
Speaker 2: You're really committed hater to come for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then by the time that happens, like, all right,
you burn this, I go for it.
Speaker 2: Bud, you tell me, you tell me you're mad at me,
I'll I'm listening.
Speaker 3: I feel like all three of us are bad at
hiding if we don't like someone. So it's like I
feel like with any of us, if our listeners have
seen us on content or on podcasts with and we're
friendly with them, we're probably cool with them because it's
probably super obvious if it's true.
Speaker 2: A different We all have different vibes to dislike though
as well, Like I think we have different levels of
like how we react and stuff like that. We all
have different volatility.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like when it's someone that I just
don't want to deal with, it's just like I just
don't want to. I'm not gonna pick a fight. I'm
not going to like, you know, confront them at a thing.
I'm just gonna like, I'm just not gonna think about
you or talk to you, you know, not gonna go
out of my way.
Speaker 4: Or do you guys are are the fighters in the group.
Speaker 1: I I can be confrontational, for sure. I don't. I'm
not physical anymore. Oh.
Speaker 2: I remember there was a time in my life where
if Mike was upset with someone at a bar, we
were like, we gotta get them out of here because
he's gonna beat the ship out of this.
Speaker 1: The headlines in Paris last week. Yeah, I've whipped him,
whipped someone's ass with a bag at dead Yeah, and
then poured chatting to Pop all over there, twitching dead body.
You never either of you have ever seen me in
an altercation.
Speaker 2: And well, I think we pull you out usually, but
I either Mary.
Speaker 3: We usually have an arm each in the marr aching.
You're like, oh, I can't punch and I'll kick these motherbuggers. Yeah,
you're gonna let Mary say this. Mary's right, picks.
Speaker 1: Fights with every Jersey mom who tries getting into a
woman's bathroom. Listen.
Speaker 2: That was a very unique situation where I was I
was offended how she wouldn't apologize.
Speaker 1: I think I was.
Speaker 2: I was more upset about the idea that I was like, hey,
you can't just come into someone's bathroom and she was like, oh,
I can't just come into the bathroom and was like
trying to fight me, and I was like, okay, now
I do have to fight her.
Speaker 1: No, I had to pick you up and just move you.
I actually cardboard on Saturday, so what happened on Saturday?
Can talk about it? Yes? I can?
Speaker 2: So you know how like usually we've actually just talked
about this. On Saturdays and Sundays, I like to go
to a coffee shop and have a little coffee and
maybe have a little snick snack and I read my book.
And I have gotten really accustomed to doing this is
a tradition now on weekends. And yesterday I went to
a little coffee shop and I got my little coffee
and my little snick snack and I sat outside and
a woman sat right next to me and lit a
cigarette and started blowing smoke in my face. And I
was like, hey, can't you just move down? And she
was like, I'm allowed to have a cigarette. And I
was like, actually you're not. Because this is a food establishment,
you were actually not allowed to have a cigarette. Literally,
as I'm eating my coffee cake, you're not allowed to
have a cigarette here. And she was like, well, I'm
not going anywhere, and I was like.
Speaker 1: Cigarette and then start blowing out in her face.
Speaker 2: So irritating. She also like asked me for a light
as she was smoking before this, she asked me for
a light and I was like, no, I'm not gonna
help you light your cigarette. I'm eating and so like
that was a fighting situation where like I did it,
I was pulled away.
Speaker 1: You killed her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's dead. Now she's buried. She's with the United
Medical CEO.
Speaker 1: Someone pulled you away. I had to pull you away
from this.
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I wasn't gonna actually throw hands, but
I was told to move on and let it go. Uh,
But I was upset about it because you shouldn't smoke
near food establishments and fuck her, and I don't like.
I think what what enraged me about that situation was
I started it as, hey, can you smoke some somewhere else?
And her response was I'm allowed to smoke anywhere I want.
And that's not true and it's fucking rude, And that's
kind of what triggered me. It's the same thing with
the bathroom lady, which was I was like, that was
a pretty rude situation. But anytimeologizing for it, the audacity
of that woman coming to me and being like, oh,
I can't just go into the bathroom. You got a
problem with me going into your bathroom? I was like, yeah,
I fucking have a problem with that. And that was
exactly how I reacted yesterday, which was like, Oh, you
mean I can't just smoke anywhere I want.
Speaker 1: Oh I can't do you argue with that guy at
the airport too.
Speaker 2: Oh that was a big That was That was a
I was on the phone. I was on a call,
a work call at a restaurant at the airport, and
when I got off the work call, the guy was like, Oh,
are you finally done with your work call so I
can enjoy my meal? And I was like, you are
at an airport trying to have lobster bisk I don't
talk about your airport food experience, and everybody is on
the phone at an airport. You think I give a
ship that you had a really good quality meal. I'm
getting mad just thinking about the fact that that thought
that he was so righteous that I couldn't be on
a work hall while I was having a meal. And
I was like, you can maybe say, like I could
have been quieter on that call, but the idea that
I couldn't be on a call in a fucking airport.
Go to a Denny's if you want to have a
perfect dining experience, Dennis is perfect. Yes, don't go to
an airport and try and have a fancy meal and
tell me that it's too loud. I probably am the
most of us that's probably going to fight someone now.
But back in the day, it's like eight years ago.
Mike was eight years ago. Mikey was fighty.
Speaker 1: Mikey, you've never that never happened though in front of you.
You haven't. I thought, I did you see it?
Speaker 4: Oh God, we don't have enough time.
Speaker 1: No, you didn't. I have.
Speaker 2: I have seen you try and fight people, Mike.
Speaker 3: When waiters, bartenders, random people at bars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think people. Yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Stare at them with your drink. Look, oh actually yeah,
wait to see if you can fight them. And the
most recent you'll say something under your breath just to
get them to try and fight you. And it happened
at a game awards two years ago, Game Awards, Game Awards.
What you were drinking at a game?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike, I think you're always blacked out when this happens.
We see it all the time.
Speaker 1: Wait at the game? Did I really do something like
that the game awards? Yeah, you rushed the stage and
start of talking about Bill Clinton. People don't know that
was you. Yeah, it was you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the resolution wasn't great.
Speaker 1: What did I Who was I mean mugging at the
Game Awards?
Speaker 2: So okay, sorry, I'm mixing up stories. You definitely were
spicy at the Game Awards once. But the one I
remember is when you said I don't like your hat.
Speaker 1: Oh you weren't there for that though, I maybe was
there and that was yeah, that was yeah, that I'm
proud of that one. That was a funny line to
start a fight. I hate your hat.
Speaker 3: How would you feel if you guys like came here
for a Game Awards and we went to a bar
and I just beat a bunch of people's asses at
the bar.
Speaker 2: I couldn't imagine. You're the sweetest person. I think you
were the person to get beat up between the three
of us somehow have not ever, I think if anyone
was to get beat up, it would be you. If
anyone would get punched just for running their mouth, it's
probably me, And if anyone were to get into a
full on boxing match, it's Mike.
Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, it's fair. I have well it was a
boxing match.
Speaker 3: I wish we had like the influencer boxing stuff that
they had like we're not big enough names to like, No.
Speaker 1: I want to I've got actual history in boxing. I'm
really I'm afraid i'd actually hurt people. I'm a big
deal back, you know, Like I would really just I
would really upset people by how much I beat the
get out of the other people.
Speaker 3: Like I can name ten people right now that would
be amazing to just set you up against in a boxing.
Speaker 1: People. I would like to punch it. A lot of
people I hate. I feel like Mike, You've got like a.
Speaker 3: Sea Bushimmy, Billy Madison lists of people if you want
to kick the chair out.
Speaker 1: Of there is like life is too short to be
an asshole. It's not that hard to not be an asshole, right, Yeah,
don't piss me off by being an asshole, and I
won't put you on this list I have. I have
two lists. One is just the name Fomka fifteen times
in a row. On the title of that list in
parentheses is just the different movies Deep Rising, House, Unhunted, Hill,
X Men one, x Men two, This page, This page
is so sticky, yep, no, it's laminated. And then the
other list is just like, oh man, I want to
just start rattling off the names, and then I bet
I could.
Speaker 3: That'd be a fun segment me trying to guss your
top ten. I bet i'd get him.
Speaker 1: I could rank someone. Your number one would be No,
the number one changed very recently, and I he jumped
up the list pretty quick.
Speaker 3: Yeah yet, Batista in the ring, you'll kick your ass.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Morgan, thank you for the email. Future episodes.
You can write in get us some good questions for
the next four episodes, because episode one hundred we've got
some uh some stuff planned that we're going to find
to before we get there to Yeah, we might.
Speaker 2: We we're going to find.
Speaker 1: We talked about it, we're find trying to find. We'll
tweak it. But the next four episodes, get some good
emails in. That's fire skin Cast at gmail dot com.
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Speaker 3: You can watch archives of all of our Game of
the Year stuff should be up around the time this
episode is coming out.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: Personally, you can follow me on Blue Sky, Instagram and
Twitch are the things.
Speaker 1: And you're playing Command of Concer Generals on your Twitch
channel right now.
Speaker 4: I think I want to play more of that. Yeah, yeah, play.
Speaker 1: Zero or if you get to zero hour, if you
find time, let me know what you think of it,
because it would like Yeah, so I might even like
maybe we could set up like a multiplayer thing because
it was fun. Marry. What about you.
Speaker 2: Twitch every Monday? I stream right now. I'm obviously playing
through Silent Hill too, but I will play whatever sparks
my fancy during the given time.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And I also was I'm just gonna say it. I
was invited to do Giant Bombs top ten games. I'm
gonna write a top ten games for you, and I'm
really excited about doing that. I do it every year
and it's like a genuine joy for me to like
rank them, think about them, talk about them. So I
will do that and it will be something I will
deliver with gusto.
Speaker 3: All of our best friends will be writing top ten
lists everyone, without any exceptions.
Speaker 2: Isn't that all of the best friends?
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't get that. Oh no, it's okay. You
said you and you told you, asked me to didn't you?
I did you send it to you? Said it to
the founder. Yes, that joke doesn't work, because all right,
I was complaining that Grub overlooked me for the couch.
But that's my beef with him. I'll I'll take it
up with him. You're not I know. That's and then
after I we talked about this before the episode, and
then I said, I was just joking. I was just
making sure that you knew my ego was bruised.
Speaker 4: Sure, you're gonna kick grubs ass at the game war?
Speaker 1: Do we get it? Watch out?
Speaker 4: I think could take you. I think Gub could take you.
Speaker 1: Yeah he could. No, he fucking couldn't. I'm just kidding.
He could. I think you might. You might have that
Ohio dad strength.
Speaker 2: I think yeah, he thinks of his children and picks
you up, and that would be really cool.
Speaker 1: He would be on Grub. I think, yeah, I could
see that. I'd be making a lot of money. Yeah,
let's uh, hey, hey, Greb, let's let's hang out at
the game Wards.
Speaker 2: Oh Man.
Speaker 1: Broadcasting Mike, if you want to, I would box people impressed,
but I have too much actual boxing experience. I think it.
But anyway, thank you everybody for coming. I'm just here
at fire Escape and uh, I'm over doing my day
job as usual. But yeah, been uh it's been a
good year. We're getting toward the end of the year.
Think we have one more episode before twenty twenty five
checks out? Right? No? Do we wait? Yeah? Okay, cool?
We should come in the Game of the Year episode
or yeah, I be sick where we just considered indie
it's the only ones that are eligible.
Speaker 2: Indie Game of the Year, just Zelda call of duty.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you everybody for joining. We'll be back
in two weeks December thirtieth, episode ninety seven. Until then,
stay cool.
Speaker 2: You guys were saying Indiana Jones, weren't you. I thought
you said indie game of the Year, like indie Games
of the Year.
Speaker 1: We don't like indie games. I love indie games. Damn
doesn't like them. I don't.
Speaker 3: I think they're they're me and Mary defenders of the
indie game. Mostly me, but Mary also likes them. Zelda,
like all I've contained multitudes.
Speaker 1: That's an Indian Jones quote, isn't it.
Speaker 4: I don't know what is that for?
Speaker 1: No, it's fucking Walter Whitman. I think, Oh yeah, he's
like layer.
Speaker 2: He's got layers like an onion.
Speaker 1: Yes I do. All right, well, we'll be back.
Speaker 2: These are bonus bonus episode nugets.
Speaker 4: You get all the all the talk.
Speaker 1: Thank you everybody, See you later. Bye h